#Soylent | Logs for 2014-11-21

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[00:00:04] <JamesNZ> chromas: SN would probably be forked :P
[00:00:19] <Konomi> actually
[00:00:24] <Konomi> won't sn switch to systemd?
[00:00:31] <Konomi> the servers are ubuntu
[00:00:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> not until we have to upgrade off the LTS
[00:00:50] <Konomi> might not be as soon as others but eventually if ubuntu is kept
[00:00:54] <Konomi> yeah
[00:00:57] <Konomi> so really
[00:00:59] <chromas> slashd is fragile, don't want to touch it
[00:01:02] <JamesNZ> Shhhh, it's a secret!
[00:01:05] <Konomi> posting sn is updating to systemd would be true ;p
[00:02:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be. who knows though, next VM is likely to come in different flavors so we can test other distros.
[00:02:55] <chromas> CentOS
[00:02:58] * TheMightyBuzzard is gonna try building a slackware one.
[00:03:14] <Konomi> enjoy your dep manage.. wait enjoy your not dep management
[00:03:25] <chromas> slapt-get
[00:03:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[00:03:47] <Konomi> I'm still amazed a distro exists that lacks dependancy management
[00:04:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> slack has dependency management with slapt-get
[00:04:03] <juggs> If SN sticks on Ubu 14.04 it'll be 2019 before it even needs thinking about, by which time it will be a done deal or replaced again with something even more unsavoury xD
[00:04:22] <Konomi> obviously we need a windows server
[00:04:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn right, ME for the stability
[00:04:39] <chromas> gnu / basementLinux
[00:04:43] <Konomi> damn
[00:04:51] <Konomi> I just thought new article submission
[00:04:58] <Konomi> "Soylent changes to Windows Server"
[00:05:24] <Konomi> "Due to the increasing penetration of systemd we have felt that the only place that is safe from it now is Windows and will be promptly switching the server over the next few days"
[00:05:25] <chromas> because microsoft gave us a sweet deal on mssql
[00:05:25] <juggs> change the apache messages to suit...
[00:05:28] <chromas> or uh, Azure
[00:05:31] <swiss> s/Windows/OSX/
[00:05:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, save that one for april
[00:05:56] <juggs> Welcome to SNCloud Edition!
[00:05:59] <Konomi> meh april is too far away TheMightyBuzzard
[00:06:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> they'll still all be arguing systemd though
[00:06:19] <Konomi> debian will have released jessie far before that and no one will care about the systemd issue anymore
[00:06:34] <chromas> until slackware adds it
[00:06:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> and ya know, i bet we could make sn run off windows if we really, really tried.
[00:06:36] <Konomi> they being a few basement dwellers I imagine
[00:06:43] <Konomi> you could
[00:06:48] <Konomi> but I used to compile on windows
[00:06:53] <Konomi> and you CAN do a lot of things
[00:06:56] <chromas> with 2s
[00:06:58] <Konomi> doesn't mean you SHOULD
[00:06:59] <chromas> or iis
[00:07:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> like i used to use activeperl in winders long moons ago
[00:07:23] <juggs> hmm.. at this rate "systemd" is going to top our most used words lists.
[00:07:33] <Konomi> use strawberryperl in windows
[00:07:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, you see the new theme?
[00:07:47] <Konomi> http://strawberryperl.com
[00:07:47] <|> ^ 03Strawberry Perl for Windows
[00:07:48] <Konomi> nope?
[00:07:52] <chromas> juggs: is that in the stats?
[00:08:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://dev.soylentnews.org log in, everyone is set to it
[00:08:10] <|> ^ 03Dev.SN: Dev.SN is dead developers
[00:08:12] <Konomi> should I screen SN before it changes forever?
[00:08:23] <juggs> chromas, yah - 3rd or 4th block down the page
[00:08:40] <juggs> HA - systemd running at #9
[00:08:40] <Konomi> haha
[00:08:41] <Konomi> xD
[00:08:47] <Konomi> is that for april ;p
[00:08:59] <chromas> :| can't login; it doesn't like my password anymore
[00:09:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, that's for nostalgia. it's going in december/january
[00:09:28] <juggs> I prolly should ignore Bender on those stats - it kinda skews things
[00:10:09] <Konomi> wow old version I have half my karma on it xD
[00:10:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it's just an old dump from live. don't think it's been updated in ages.
[00:10:48] * chromas doesn't see the theme
[00:10:57] <chromas> unless it's the pink, which didn't require login
[00:11:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, that's default? nice.
[00:11:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess i shouldn't have set AC's default theme.
[00:12:06] <chromas> I was thinking I was already using the pink. alzheimer's--
[00:12:11] * chromas winds back
[00:12:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> just made it today
[00:12:55] <chromas> must've been one of the other colored ones
[00:13:00] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: someone needs to redo the logo for it, with a pony leg sticking out of the candy bar
[00:13:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> and "is pwnies" instead of "is people"
[00:13:29] <chromas> or at least "Soylent News…is pwnies!"
[00:14:12] <chromas> I'd set this as my sn theme if it had a dark background :)
[00:14:26] <juggs> my eyyyeeess!! What have you done TMB?
[00:15:09] * TheMightyBuzzard is chock full of the evil today
[00:15:23] <chromas> he pwned our ies
[00:16:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> next one is going to be a vt100 look. green on black, monospace font.
[00:17:49] <chromas> ooh, you should also set it so people who purposely write their comments in monospace get variable-width
[00:18:01] <chromas> so it still stands out :)
[00:18:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i really need to figure out how to embed fonts too
[00:19:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know ya can now, just never cared to learn
[00:19:28] <chromas> oh yeah; if you could send a low-res bitmap font for the terminal theme that would be cool
[00:19:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly
[00:19:45] <chromas> you can also set text to have a glow
[00:20:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, good idea.
[00:20:08] <chromas> I'm not sure if it's a glow effect or a zero-offset drop shadow
[00:20:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll figure it out
[00:20:30] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard++ # for figuring it out
[00:20:30] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 116
[00:21:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> not doing it tonight though. got tv to watch.
[00:21:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NSA Phone Data Collection Could Go On, Even if a Law Expires - http://sylnt.us - deny-it-now-do-it-later
[00:22:02] <juggs> TMB, now you got botty reg'd, you want vhost?
[00:22:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya...
[00:22:18] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders
[00:22:29] <juggs> throw open for suggestions :D
[00:22:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> nsa.gov since i've gotta use a staff one
[00:23:12] * TheMightyBuzzard misses having nsa.gov hostmask
[00:23:27] <juggs> it's mighty annoying TheM<Tab> now autocompletes to the Bot
[00:23:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[00:23:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> can change his nick and register the new one
[00:23:56] <chromas> th<tab><tab>
[00:24:15] <juggs> or change nick and group it to the current reg
[00:24:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> would just dump him but he's actually useful now
[00:24:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, yea, s'what i meant
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[00:27:21] <juggs> bob?
[00:27:23] <juggs> lol
[00:27:24] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[00:27:39] * TheMightyBuzzard nods sagely
[00:27:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> always go with bob if i can't think of anything better
[00:28:21] <juggs> get TMBot to say /hs group
[00:28:47] <juggs> then if you change it's nick and group it to the existing acct it will pick up the same host
[00:29:07] <juggs> its*
[00:30:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> done n cheers
[00:31:02] <juggs> cool - jut use /ns group after a nick change
[00:31:11] * juggs teaches grannies to suck eggs too
[00:31:20] * TheMightyBuzzard nods
[00:31:40] * chromas didn't about nickserv grouping
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[00:32:23] <chromas> juggs++ # for being wise and teaching grannies eggular activities
[00:32:23] <Bender> karma - juggs: 36
[00:33:29] <SpallsHurgenson> I thought I was the only one to use the "suck eggs" expression
[00:34:00] <SpallsHurgenson> every time I use it 'round these parts, I just get a blank look
[00:35:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, is a good expression
[00:35:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> 💩pissoff
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[00:35:48] <SpallsHurgenson> come to think of it, I think I once said that if I ever met anyone else that knew that expression, I'd immediately ask them to marry me
[00:35:52] <chromas> needs a 💩flush command
[00:36:08] <chromas> Well, there you go
[00:36:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs is your huckleberry
[00:36:16] * chromas pulls out the organ
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[00:36:46] <SpallsHurgenson> not until after the ceremony, chromas!
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[00:37:35] <chromas> too bad the ircd doesn't let us use 💩 as a nick
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[00:39:29] <chromas> =nick 💩
[00:39:30] * SpallsHurgenson takes apart another hdd
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[00:41:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;say #soylent hello, botctl
[00:41:08] <botctl> hello, botctl
[00:41:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ^U+1f4a9 was getting to be a pain to type
[00:41:57] <chromas> need a key macro for it
[00:42:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, only got five macro keys and they're all used
[00:42:16] <Konomi> https://soylentnews.org
[00:42:17] <|> ^ 03SN comment by srobert (4803)
[00:42:20] <Konomi> this was so worth it
[00:42:24] <chromas> You can hit the F💩 key
[00:42:52] * TheMightyBuzzard snickers
[00:43:03] <SpallsHurgenson> you're turning into a real troll, konomi
[00:43:11] <Konomi> https://soylentnews.org
[00:43:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> 53 comments too, not bad
[00:43:12] <|> ^ 03SN comment by Lagg (105)
[00:43:15] <Konomi> I liked this post though
[00:43:19] <chromas> Konomi++ # for trollctl
[00:43:19] <Bender> karma - konomi: 33
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[00:44:31] * TheMightyBuzzard goes to find foods
[00:45:22] <SpallsHurgenson> but we gotta fools aplenty here!
[00:46:15] * chromas looks around
[00:46:27] <chromas> Is it true that if I have to ask…?
[00:46:38] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, I think sucking eggs is a brit expression - no-one here would look nonplussed if you used "teaching people to suck eggs"
[00:47:43] <SpallsHurgenson> ohmigosh! That means I'm British and suddenly have an opinion on Scotland!
[00:48:05] <chromas> Yeah, but it's no true opinion
[00:48:40] <juggs> chromas, yah accounts are held separate to nicks - you can group many nicks to an account. Only caveat is each nick carries its own expiry timer for non-usage, the account is expired when the last nick expires.
[00:49:28] <chromas> Neat. I just throw my nick in with the identify message
[00:49:44] <chromas> that sounds fancier though
[00:50:00] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, I'm a Brit - I had no opinion on the Scots vote, same as I have no opinion on the N. Ireland position. It's up to them if they want to go independent or devolve powers.
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[00:51:03] <juggs> The bot formerly known by a symbol
[00:51:13] <juggs> edgy!
[00:51:43] <chromas> hmm, is the artist's former symbol known by unicode?
[00:51:58] <chromas> I bet ircd wouldn't take it
[00:52:21] <SpallsHurgenson> so as a new Brit, what am I allowed to have an opinion on?
[00:52:40] <juggs> fuck all, you're a serf. Welcome.
[00:53:42] <juggs> Feudalism 2014. You'll learn to love it - and none of that being repressed nonsense, go and dig some mud.
[00:53:48] <SpallsHurgenson> awww, that's no fun. I'm goin' back to Merika where I can be a serf... with guns!
[00:55:51] * Konomi releases the howler monkeys
[00:56:04] * juggs wishes he had guns at this point
[00:56:25] <SpallsHurgenson> go fox huntin'!
[00:56:32] <juggs> been banned
[00:56:36] <juggs> years ago
[00:56:58] <SpallsHurgenson> go badger cullin'!
[00:57:00] <Konomi> considering my first expereince with guns was my hick parents shooting kangaroos
[00:57:09] <Konomi> and all I remember is a huge pile of blood with steam rising off of it
[00:57:15] <Konomi> I'm happy to not have guns around ;p
[00:57:21] <chromas> I thought the kangaroos had the guns
[00:57:33] <juggs> are kangaroos good to eat?
[00:57:45] <chromas> wallabies++
[00:57:45] <Bender> karma - wallabies: 1
[00:57:54] <Konomi> they taste like lamb
[00:57:58] <Konomi> little tougher though
[00:58:02] <juggs> Look like they have a fair bit of thigh meat on them - must be good slow cooked.
[00:58:03] <JamesNZ> lamb++
[00:58:03] <Bender> karma - lamb: 1
[00:58:14] <SpallsHurgenson> reminds me of http://www.snopes.com
[00:58:15] <NetCraft> ^ 03snopes.com: Kangaroos in Military Simulation
[00:58:41] <juggs> is that the story of the 'roos outsmarting the army?
[00:59:01] <juggs> The cull that didn;t go so well :D
[00:59:15] <SpallsHurgenson> well, virtual 'roos
[00:59:20] <juggs> ohh no
[00:59:27] <juggs> lemme find the linkie
[00:59:34] <Konomi> https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:59:34] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Emu War
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[00:59:51] <SpallsHurgenson> those aren't 'roos!
[01:00:04] <juggs> oddly enough Konomi knows that story better than I
[01:00:16] <Konomi> the emu one?
[01:00:19] <Konomi> it was on the radio
[01:00:22] <Konomi> I laughed ;p
[01:00:39] <juggs> Some of the officer field reports are brilliant
[01:00:51] <Konomi> https://soylentnews.org
[01:00:52] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[01:00:56] <Konomi> anyone wanna mod that down ;p
[01:01:07] <Konomi> I posted in the thread so I can't ._.
[01:01:18] <chromas> you don't have sockpuppets?
[01:01:34] <Konomi> no I am too cool for sock puppets
[01:01:34] <juggs> not I - for I have no officially sworn off and discussion on that topic
[01:01:39] <Konomi> lol
[01:01:55] * SpallsHurgenson tests more HDDs and finds more dead drives...
[01:02:01] * chromas wonders where the bot put the score
[01:02:25] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: did you test them for ebola or systemd?
[01:02:32] <juggs> The machine-gunners' dreams of point blank fire into serried masses of Emus were soon dissipated. The Emu command had evidently ordered guerrilla tactics, and its unwieldy army soon split up into innumerable small units that made use of the military equipment uneconomic.
[01:02:41] <Konomi> hehe
[01:03:02] <juggs> that whole wiki article is a joy
[01:03:05] <SpallsHurgenson> <whew> thank god my 12GB PATA hdd stoll works!
[01:03:36] <juggs> If we had a military division with the bullet-carrying capacity of these birds it would face any army in the world...They can face machine guns with the invulnerability of tanks. They are like Zulus whom even dum-dum bullets could not stop
[01:03:46] * chromas wonders how long it'll be 'til we go back to parallel connections
[01:05:17] <SpallsHurgenson> forget serial /and/ PATA. I want moebius connections :)
[01:06:21] <Konomi> http://images4.fanpop.com
[01:06:22] <juggs> everything comes around again chromas - just look how many times time-sharing of resource has been around the block. Just got to sniff it out on the rise next time around and cash in.
[01:07:15] <Konomi> http://aht.seriouseats.com
[01:07:18] <Subsentient> $tell NCommander I'd love if you created a poll on who wants systemd and who does not :^)
[01:07:18] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[01:07:19] <Konomi> I am ready to invade
[01:07:20] <chromas> that's exactly where the cat would park, too
[01:07:35] <SpallsHurgenson> my kitty is grumpy today
[01:07:43] <chromas> Subsentient: he stoppoed by awhile ago. Apparently he moved again
[01:10:38] <Konomi> http://i2.minus.com
[01:10:41] <Konomi> :3
[01:12:06] <Subsentient> Konomi: I remember that XD
[01:12:15] <Konomi> I save all the mistakes
[01:12:16] <Konomi> :3
[01:12:38] <chromas> is that a cat face?
[01:14:40] <Subsentient> chromas: It's a gerbil face.
[01:14:50] <Subsentient> chromas: oh and I added link reading.
[01:14:51] <Subsentient> $part
[01:14:51] <aqu4> Assuming you mean this channel.
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[01:15:08] <Subsentient> http://universe2.us
[01:15:08] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Epoch Init System: A new beginning
[01:15:19] <Subsentient> wait, dafuq?
[01:15:36] <Subsentient> http://google.com
[01:15:36] <NetCraft> ^ 03Google ( https://www.google.com )
[01:15:51] <chromas> does it need $linkctl enable or something?
[01:15:56] <Subsentient> yes it does, sec
[01:16:00] <Subsentient> $part'
[01:16:02] <Subsentient> $part
[01:16:03] <aqu4> Assuming you mean this channel.
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[01:16:11] <Subsentient> http://google.com
[01:16:12] <NetCraft> ^ 03Google ( https://www.google.com )
[01:16:15] <Subsentient> ohh dammit.
[01:16:21] <Subsentient> another case sensitivity bug I bet
[01:17:12] <Subsentient> yep
[01:17:15] <Subsentient> that seems to be it.
[01:17:43] <Subsentient> well fuxuxorz.
[01:18:36] <chromas> Subsentient++
[01:18:36] <Bender> karma - subsentient: 15
[01:18:58] <juggs> qmpd++
[01:18:58] <Bender> karma - qmpd: 1
[01:19:04] <juggs> mpd++
[01:19:05] <Bender> karma - mpd: 3
[01:19:16] <chromas> mpd++
[01:19:16] <Bender> karma - mpd: 4
[01:19:59] <juggs> replay_gain++
[01:19:59] <Bender> karma - replay_gain: 1
[01:21:22] <Subsentient> chromas: https://github.com
[01:21:22] <NetCraft> ^ 03Fix another f**k case sensitivity bug, this time in auto-url-titler. · a2810ef · Subsentient/aqu4bot · GitHub
[01:21:31] <Subsentient> $restart
[01:21:31] <aqu4> Be right back.
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[01:21:40] <Subsentient> $part
[01:21:41] <aqu4> Assuming you mean this channel.
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[01:21:50] <Subsentient> chromas: https://github.com
[01:21:51] <aqu4> Title for page https://github.com "3Fix another f**k case sensitivity bug, this time in auto-url-titler. · a2810ef · Subsentient/aqu4bot · GitHub"
[01:21:54] <Subsentient> Good.
[01:26:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, food + dishes = done
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[01:29:20] <juggs> hmm
[01:29:29] <Subsentient> $part
[01:29:29] <aqu4> Assuming you mean this channel.
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[01:29:37] <Subsentient> there, turned off auto-title.
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[01:30:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, that don't work
[01:30:24] <juggs> Thar she blows
[01:30:26] <SpallsHurgenson> I like all the bits'n'pieces that make up anhdd
[01:30:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like the magnets
[01:31:19] <SpallsHurgenson> so finely milled; seems a shame just to chuck it. I wish there was a decent junkyard around here so at least they could salvage the metals
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[01:34:38] <juggs> TMB, in future have the bot with reg'd nick do /nick <newnick> then /hs group (still identified at this point). If you bounce in with a new unused nick it's /ns identify <oldnick> <passwd> then /ns group. I prefer the former as it doesn't require the squirrelled away password to be dug up.
[01:36:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. having issues getting him idented before joining channels right now
[01:38:15] <chromas> wait to join until you get a notice from nickserv
[01:38:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> means i gotta script it instead of using the autojoin and i'm lazy
[01:39:34] <chromas> you can also use sasl ident
[01:39:38] <juggs> pause before the joins or pass password on the initial connect (need to look syntax up for that one), or use cert auth.
[01:39:42] <chromas> not sure how that works though
[01:46:29] <juggs> things become grey for me in this area between nickserv, hostserv and userserv. Not helped by another oper renaming them funny names so you have to go digging in the config to work out which service bot is which :D
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[01:46:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, got em fixed up
[01:47:12] <juggs> by what method?
[01:47:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> hadda get nickserv n hostserv both believing it was a grouped nick. had one but not the other or some such.
[01:48:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> and log in using username/pass so the vhost gets set before any nonsense like channel joining
[01:49:08] <juggs> hmmf, it's one services bundle and is supposed to handle such things. I shall have to test some.
[01:50:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> just had to have him msg both of them group
[01:51:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> nickserv first to add the nick then hostserv to turn the vhost on for all nicks
[01:52:18] <juggs> ns group should talk to hs group and align.
[01:52:41] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[01:53:11] <juggs> same thing conceptually. Perhaps shit hadn't percolated.
[01:53:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> that don't confront me none, long as i get my rent by friday
[01:54:19] * chromas pays TheMightyBuzzard and botctl each three fitty
[01:54:54] <juggs> ohh.. wait, did you /hs group before the nick change?
[01:55:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[01:55:31] <NetCraft> ^ 03one Bourbon one Scotch one Beer - George Thorogood - YouTube
[01:55:31] <aqu4> Title for page https://www.youtube.com "3one Bourbon one Scotch one Beer - George Thorogood - YouTube"
[01:55:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> beats me, possibly
[01:55:40] <juggs> lol
[01:55:42] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[01:57:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> tv watchin time
[01:57:22] <juggs> frickin lusers can't even keep track of what order they did shit in, how we supposed to debug that? Have you tried turning it off n on again? ;)
[01:57:31] * SpallsHurgenson makes grunting noises
[01:57:42] * juggs is disturbed
[01:59:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, i'm lucky if i remember what i coded yesterday as well if that helps any.
[02:03:01] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, that's why we rely on notes :D I think it goes with the territory. Well, apart from PJ who appears to have infinite capacity to retain such things.
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[03:14:00] <SpallsHurgenson> my nose itches
[03:18:13] <Konomi> I shall scratch it for you with my handy miniture rake!
[03:18:53] <SpallsHurgenson> now my nose is bleeding
[03:19:01] <Konomi> but is it itchy?
[03:19:10] <SpallsHurgenson> touche!
[03:19:13] <Konomi> hehe
[03:20:59] * juggs lubricates Konomi's rake
[03:22:58] * juggs staunches Spalls' bleeding with a hot poker
[03:23:39] <Konomi> okay then
[03:24:04] <Konomi> not sure why I had my comment threshold set to -1
[03:24:05] <SpallsHurgenson> my nose-scar itches
[03:24:08] <Konomi> changed it to 0
[03:24:25] <Konomi> though tbh
[03:24:36] * juggs ok I have a thing about maintenance... better to maintain than renew
[03:24:38] * chromas sets SpallsHurgenson's nose-scar to 0
[03:24:40] <Konomi> 1 might be more apt with some of the shit non logged in users vomit in the comment sections
[03:25:06] <chromas> Konomi: you can lower your threshold for ACs
[03:25:14] <chromas> er, lower their score
[03:25:36] <Konomi> is it bad I don't even know what AC means>
[03:25:40] <juggs> ahh the options are endless...
[03:25:57] <SpallsHurgenson> Armor Class!
[03:25:57] <juggs> Alternating Current you doof
[03:26:32] <Konomi> seriously I really don't know ;p
[03:26:39] <SpallsHurgenson> Anonymous Cowards
[03:26:46] <chromas> "You must be new around here"
[03:26:50] <Konomi> oh
[03:27:06] <Konomi> btw what is breakthrough I know what threshold is
[03:27:30] * SpallsHurgenson finishes watching Star Trek Enterprise and realizes - although there were some sketchy episodes - on a whole I rather enjoyed the series
[03:28:48] <SpallsHurgenson> certainly it was far better than Voyager... and possibly even better than TNG on the whole (which had several really awful seasons which lowered its average :)
[03:29:08] <Konomi> Voyager is my favourite ;p
[03:29:30] <Konomi> I have to wonder if a lot of garnered dislikes for voyager were simply from it having a female lead
[03:29:39] <juggs> luke skywalker was AWESOME in that.. or was it Annakin...
[03:29:47] <Konomi> pft
[03:29:50] <Konomi> I have the 3 originals
[03:29:58] <Konomi> the 3 new "star wars" never happened
[03:30:11] <juggs> oh no... my bad, it was petard
[03:30:20] <SpallsHurgenson> can't beat the Ewoks from Star Trek 3! :)
[03:30:59] <Konomi> wait ewoks?
[03:31:37] <SpallsHurgenson> you know, like Lt Worf the wookie. They blew up the borg's Dead Star!
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[03:32:52] <juggs> you numpty... it was Hans Solo who as the wookie you noob!!! GAWD
[03:33:42] <SpallsHurgenson> sorry, sorry. I get those confused. I remember Han Solo now; she was the one with the hair that looked like pastry buns
[03:34:16] <Konomi> I guess I raked a bit too hard
[03:34:22] <Konomi> must've hit some brain wiring
[03:35:39] * Konomi sets comment mode to default as html
[03:35:50] * Konomi uses neon pink for every damn post
[03:35:56] <SpallsHurgenson> Brain and brain... what is brain?
[03:36:02] <SpallsHurgenson> (secret Star Trek reference)
[03:36:57] <Konomi> no Mr SpallsHurgenson we don't sell Brains did you mean Bran!? It's in isle 7, no Mr SpallsHurgenson I SAID ISLE 7!
[03:37:05] * Konomi hides
[03:38:52] <juggs> omfgwtfbbq - haven't you seen the ultra-generation series? Those aren't buns they are inter dimensional portal holders. She so... throws those buns to the floor and creates a portal.. when shit gets bad and the by now contract tied and desperate scriptwriters can find no other way out and would rather go to the pub.
[03:41:32] <juggs> Much like Dr Who and the solve all sonic screwdriver. I guess we just got more cynical with age.
[03:45:42] <SpallsHurgenson> 02.
[03:46:08] <SpallsHurgenson> kitty typed that
[03:48:50] <juggs> telefonica?
[03:51:06] <Konomi> http://media.boingboing.net
[03:51:08] <aqu4> No title found.
[03:51:12] <Konomi> "Care bear package"
[03:51:54] <Konomi> http://boingboing.net
[03:51:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03Dad riding motorcycle suspended from a rope: Either an idiot or best dad ever - Boing Boing
[03:51:56] <aqu4> Title for page http://boingboing.net "3Dad riding motorcycle suspended from a rope: Either an idiot or best dad ever - Boing Boing"
[03:51:57] <Konomi> there are no words
[03:52:14] <SpallsHurgenson> what about the words "Dad riding motorcycle suspended from a rope: Either an idiot or best dad ever"?
[03:56:32] <SpallsHurgenson> you know, I am decades and decades past puberty and I /still/ get a secret thrill from shaving
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[03:57:45] <SpallsHurgenson> I have facial hair! I'm a MAN!
[03:59:40] <Konomi> eurofest has told me to not trust that statement entirely ~
[04:00:08] <SpallsHurgenson> lol
[04:00:09] <ciri> hehehe
[04:00:15] <Konomi> ciri--
[04:00:15] <Bender> karma - ciri: -27
[04:00:30] <SpallsHurgenson> shut-up ciri, that was a human joke; you don't understand it
[04:01:22] <Konomi> ffmpeg and the libav situation is still confusing me
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[04:18:48] <NightHawk> Xscreensaver-bouncingcow + Trance... Winning :-D
[04:21:08] * SpallsHurgenson googles Xscreensaver-bouncingcow
[04:21:15] <SpallsHurgenson> Hmmm... I see
[04:21:23] * SpallsHurgenson googles Trance
[04:22:54] * juggs welcomes Spalls to the 90s
[04:22:56] <SpallsHurgenson> heh, sounds like .MOD files :)
[04:23:40] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently I was unwittingly cool in the 90s then :)
[04:23:48] * NightHawk googles ".MOD files"
[04:24:34] * SpallsHurgenson revisists modarchive.org... time again for some Skaven and PurpleMotion
[04:24:46] * juggs puts NightHawk in Kitt's boot.
[04:25:29] <SpallsHurgenson> the Knight Industries Two Thousand?
[04:25:47] <juggs> if we are not careful airwolf will appear
[04:26:14] <SpallsHurgenson> Airwolf had the single best intro sequence and music of any TV show evah!!!!!
[04:26:32] <Konomi> what's airwolf?
[04:26:43] <SpallsHurgenson> I hate all of you, you make me feel old
[04:26:46] <juggs> Knight Industries does not comment.
[04:27:17] <juggs> Konomi, you has search engine, use it you lazy cow
[04:27:25] <Konomi> so rude
[04:27:30] <juggs> so true
[04:27:38] <JamesNZ> Konomi might be a sheep.
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[04:29:52] <NightHawk> nearly made it full circle, back to farm animals :-)
[04:30:44] <NightHawk> s/nearly/...
[04:30:45] <exec> <NightHawk> ... made it full circle, back to farm animals :-)
[04:36:34] * juggs floats away on clouds of methane
[04:37:35] * SpallsHurgenson lights a match so he can go faster
[04:43:00] <chromas> )http://motherboard.vice.com/read/michael-ossmann-and-the-nsa-playset
[04:43:37] <chromas> toenail_clipping--
[04:43:37] <Bender> karma - toenail_clipping: -1
[04:47:45] <SpallsHurgenson> toenail_clippings_flying_into_soup++
[04:47:45] <Bender> karma - toenail_clippings_flying_into_soup: 1
[04:48:31] <Konomi> >.>
[04:48:32] <Konomi> ewwwww
[04:48:39] <Konomi> why would you even whiel you'e eating!
[04:48:49] <SpallsHurgenson> didn't say it was MY soup
[04:48:56] <Konomi> ....
[04:49:01] <chromas> great_toenail_clipping_in_the_sky++ # illuminating from on high
[04:49:01] <Bender> karma - great_toenail_clipping_in_the_sky: 1
[04:49:01] <Konomi> you're evil \o/
[04:49:03] <JamesNZ> That's even worse :P
[04:50:58] <Konomi> and then no one ever ate around at SpallsHurgenson's house again
[04:52:23] <SpallsHurgenson> Mission complete! No need to cook, no need to clean up! :)
[04:52:38] <Konomi> I see what you did there
[04:55:14] * Konomi np: Underwater Frigate Reactor Core - Metroid Prime - Soundtrack - 2002.mp3 :: 7.2M :: DeaDBeef 0.6.2
[04:55:17] <Konomi> \o/
[04:58:58] <SpallsHurgenson> my bandwidth - meagre as it is - is going underutilized. I need to find something to download
[05:01:20] * NightHawk hands SpallHurgenson FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso
[05:01:25] <Konomi> Kim's BUtt maybe?
[05:01:32] <Konomi> wait wait I know
[05:02:11] <Konomi> http://www.freedesktop.org
[05:02:12] <Konomi> here you go
[05:03:34] <Konomi> I figure this will be more controversial than a butt
[05:08:35] <SpallsHurgenson> I can't seem to get that to run on Windows8
[05:09:41] <Konomi> fortunatly you still have compatibility with Kim's Butt yay \o/
[05:16:13] <Konomi> also windows 8 ewwww
[05:16:19] <Konomi> even by windows world standards ewwwwww
[05:16:20] <Konomi> ;p
[05:49:18] <chromas> ~define kim's butt
[05:49:23] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Kim%27s_butt: The requested page title is invalid. It may be empty, contain unsupported characters, or include a non-local or incorrectly linked interwiki prefix. You may be able to locate the desired page by searc...
[05:49:43] <chromas> sounds right
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[06:21:38] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:21:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 928
[06:21:44] <crutchy> bacon++
[06:21:44] <Bender> karma - bacon: 283
[06:32:21] <crutchy> burger_with_the_lot++
[06:32:21] <Bender> karma - burger_with_the_lot: 1
[06:34:45] <SirFinkus> someone suck me into an internet argument, I'm bored
[06:34:56] <crutchy> systemd++
[06:34:56] <Bender> karma - systemd: -16
[06:35:13] * SirFinkus gives few shits about systemd
[06:35:31] <crutchy> obama--
[06:35:31] <Bender> karma - obama: -2
[06:35:45] <crutchy> atheists--
[06:35:45] <Bender> karma - atheists: -1
[06:35:49] <SirFinkus> I don't have enough knowledge about the matter to form an opinion, kind of like a lot of people involved in the issue
[06:35:50] <crutchy> theists--
[06:35:50] <Bender> karma - theists: -1
[06:36:03] <SirFinkus> obama is a douche
[06:36:05] <crutchy> bacon--
[06:36:05] <Bender> karma - bacon: 282
[06:36:14] <SirFinkus> oh shit, you done it now
[06:36:28] <SirFinkus> bacon is the best food
[06:36:37] * crutchy is eating a burger with bacon
[06:36:56] <crutchy> but i promise i'm trying not to enjoy it :p
[06:37:08] <SirFinkus> although I can't disagree with bacon-- because it's stupidly unhealthy
[06:37:37] <crutchy> i've got something even worse for dessert
[06:37:54] <SirFinkus> although I'm not sure australian bacon is more like american bacon, or uk bacon
[06:38:10] <crutchy> tub of rainbow icecream with nerds :D
[06:38:13] <chromas> SirFinkus: UoW sports team vs WSU sports team fight!
[06:38:19] <SirFinkus> ours is super fatty pork belly
[06:38:24] <crutchy> sport is gay
[06:38:34] * SirFinkus could not care less about sports
[06:39:28] <chromas> NUURRRRRRRDDZZZ
[06:39:42] <crutchy> its nucular!
[06:39:52] <crutchy> ooh
[06:39:57] <SirFinkus> almost got me on the religion stuff, but I need to hear an argument, "down with this sort of thing" doesn't really work
[06:40:35] <crutchy> i'm unreligious
[06:41:01] <crutchy> even science is kinda religious nowadays
[06:41:07] <crutchy> religion--
[06:41:08] <Bender> karma - religion: 0
[06:41:30] <crutchy> ooh
[06:41:47] <crutchy> obamacare++ # >:-D
[06:41:47] <Bender> karma - obamacare: 1
[06:42:10] <SirFinkus> well, obamacare is pretty shit, but nothing else was going to get passed
[06:42:20] <SirFinkus> we should have single payer or whatever that shit is called
[06:42:40] <crutchy> like in australia?
[06:42:42] <SirFinkus> now we just have some weird abortion of public and private healthcare, in classic US fashion
[06:43:00] <crutchy> we have private and public here too
[06:43:04] <SirFinkus> not familiar with australian healthcare, so idk
[06:43:36] <SirFinkus> well, we have this weird thing where you're required to buy private healthcare, but if you don't have enough money you can get public healthcare
[06:43:51] <SirFinkus> well, sometimes
[06:43:55] <crutchy> we pay a percentage of income for public healthcare, or you go private instead of paying in tax
[06:44:23] <crutchy> so you pay regardless, but you dont have to go private
[06:44:40] <SirFinkus> that sounds reasonable
[06:44:47] <crutchy> seems to work
[06:44:59] <crutchy> people that earn lots pay lots
[06:45:07] <crutchy> or go private
[06:45:30] <SirFinkus> it's similar here, but employers pay a lot of the healthcare stuff for the state
[06:45:49] <SirFinkus> and you only really get the state benefits if you're old or really poor
[06:46:10] <SirFinkus> it's really fucked up and weird
[06:46:25] <crutchy> prolly only works here cos we have population of about 20 mil
[06:46:28] <crutchy> not 300 mil
[06:46:46] <crutchy> public healthcare is a money sinkhole
[06:47:00] <SirFinkus> my impression is that the population matters less, but the ratio of young to old people is the key
[06:47:36] <SirFinkus> so before obamacare, if you were uninsured, you just have financial ruin if you get sick or injured
[06:47:49] <SirFinkus> now you have slightly less financial ruin I guess
[06:48:40] <crutchy> till america can't print anymore
[06:48:48] <crutchy> then everyone suffers equally :D
[06:49:19] <SirFinkus> I think only full-time employees were entitled to company healthcare, which is problematic because a lot of people are employed at multiple jobs part-time
[06:49:52] <SirFinkus> because *shock* companies don't want to provide healthcare benefits to anyone more than they need to
[06:49:55] <crutchy> america isnt very business-friendly
[06:50:02] <SirFinkus> a weird perverse incentive structure
[06:50:42] <crutchy> i can understand though. why hire people if you're not going to profit from their labor?
[06:51:06] <SirFinkus> the healthcare thing is an artifact of WW2 irrc, there was a wage freeze and companies started providing benefits to incentivize people to join their company
[06:51:28] <crutchy> makes sense i guess
[06:52:03] <SirFinkus> and the whole capitalist system doesn't really work if more jobs are automated, which really is the future
[06:52:20] <crutchy> there will be different jobs
[06:52:31] <SirFinkus> if you look at the kinds of jobs people are working in, most of the newer jobs are bullshit administrative tasks
[06:52:33] <SirFinkus> oh?
[06:52:59] <crutchy> 50 years ago nobody could have imagined an IT industry like we have today
[06:53:25] <crutchy> 50 years from now there will be jobs we cant imagine today
[06:53:32] <SirFinkus> but compare the IT jobs gained to the countless jobs lost by modern IT
[06:53:47] <SirFinkus> accountants, filers, door to door salesmen etc
[06:54:16] <crutchy> same throughout history
[06:54:44] <crutchy> success is measured by your ability to adapt, reskill, learn and keep pace
[06:54:52] <SirFinkus> before CNC machining, it'd take a guy hours to machine a part, now he pops it into a machine and the computer will do it unattended
[06:55:17] <crutchy> the loom was a big job killer
[06:55:24] <JamesNZ> I for one welcome our new binary overlords.
[06:55:37] <SirFinkus> the machine may cost a few thousand dollars, but it's a lot cheaper than an employee
[06:55:46] <crutchy> 3d printing is opening up new job areas
[06:55:47] <SirFinkus> so the way I see it, the system is going to collapse eventually
[06:56:01] <SirFinkus> for machines?
[06:56:18] <crutchy> nah. for people designing and making shit
[06:56:36] <SirFinkus> and I don't get the whole 3d printing obsession
[06:56:45] <SirFinkus> so someone designs a widget
[06:56:56] <SirFinkus> 100k people download the widget and print it out
[06:57:01] <crutchy> its like having a sort of star trek replicator
[06:57:16] <SirFinkus> instead of having people working at making the widget, people just download a file and print it at home
[06:57:27] <crutchy> yup
[06:57:32] <SirFinkus> but it isn't, because of the limitations inherent
[06:57:48] <crutchy> its developing though
[06:58:10] <crutchy> everything starts pretty simple
[06:58:44] <SirFinkus> I don't think we'll see mass-market consumer items printed at the home on 3d printers
[06:59:08] <SirFinkus> maybe if we had free energy
[06:59:11] <crutchy> we already are. lots of people running little home businesses
[06:59:24] <crutchy> the arty crafty types
[06:59:25] <SirFinkus> key word is "mass market"
[06:59:54] <crutchy> you prolly thinking mass produce
[06:59:55] <SirFinkus> you can make sculptures, and maybe print a few replacement parts
[07:00:28] <SirFinkus> toys basically
[07:00:30] <crutchy> when combined, home businesses serve a massive market
[07:00:42] <crutchy> sme's are big part of economy
[07:01:00] <SirFinkus> but it's all non-essential goods
[07:01:10] <crutchy> useless_shit++
[07:01:10] <Bender> karma - useless_shit: 1
[07:01:22] <crutchy> everone wants it
[07:01:40] <SirFinkus> and lets say a 3d printing business gets big, how much cheaper would it be to just machine a mold and have the popular widget made in china?
[07:01:52] <SirFinkus> or even at home it would be cheaper at some point
[07:02:10] <crutchy> people will prolly more likely make unique things
[07:02:10] <SirFinkus> basically, the market is small, custom-made, plastic parts
[07:02:27] <crutchy> metals can be printed
[07:02:31] <crutchy> even food
[07:02:40] <JamesNZ> It won't always be that way SirFinkus.
[07:02:50] <crutchy> bike frames
[07:02:57] <crutchy> all sorts of shit
[07:02:57] <SirFinkus> but not on a consumer level, and the energy requirements are pretty high
[07:03:09] <crutchy> they'll develop
[07:03:38] <crutchy> the future is exciting and scary and unknown
[07:03:58] <SirFinkus> I can't think of any innovations that have reduced the amount of energy required to melt steel
[07:04:21] <SirFinkus> and then you also have problems with fumes and cleanup
[07:04:51] <SirFinkus> these are industrial machines, with massive energy and space requirements
[07:04:56] <crutchy> steel making is much more efficient now than it used to be
[07:05:01] <crutchy> lots of recycling
[07:05:09] <JamesNZ> Computers used to be much the same.
[07:05:13] <SirFinkus> it still requires incredible amounts of energy
[07:05:37] <crutchy> tvs do too
[07:05:42] <crutchy> and they dont make anything
[07:06:01] <SirFinkus> but computers were different, the concept of data storage and processing doesn't require tons of energy
[07:06:11] <SirFinkus> not on the scale of steelworking crutchy
[07:06:27] <SirFinkus> last I checked, most tvs can operate on a standard outlet
[07:06:36] <crutchy> if you add up all the energy used by the world's televisions you might be surprised
[07:06:57] <SirFinkus> I'd bet it's a fraction of what is used in the metalworking industry
[07:07:14] <crutchy> it does take a lot of energy to build stuff
[07:07:57] <crutchy> but building stuff serves our interests
[07:08:04] <SirFinkus> look at aluminum production, refining bauxite takes stupid amounts of electricity
[07:08:13] <crutchy> yup
[07:08:31] <crutchy> we have one in my state
[07:08:32] <SirFinkus> which is part of the reason aluminum recycling is so popular, the economic incentives work out
[07:08:49] <SirFinkus> but it still requires huge amounts of energy to melt aluminum
[07:08:55] <crutchy> aluminium alloys are hard to make
[07:09:32] <crutchy> but lightweight makes them worthwhile
[07:10:10] <crutchy> carbon fibre reinforced composites are prolly even more energy intensive
[07:10:17] <crutchy> but they are awesomer
[07:10:35] <SirFinkus> there are also additional requirements for good metalworking, such as atmosphere and temperature control
[07:10:47] <crutchy> alloying is a fine art
[07:11:03] <crutchy> till you handball it to a machine anyway
[07:11:17] <crutchy> but even then qc is tricky
[07:11:29] <SirFinkus> so that's why I don't think 3d printing stuff at home is going to revolutionize anything, at least for 50 years or so
[07:11:39] <SirFinkus> even then, it's a maybe, and won't create new jobs
[07:12:14] <crutchy> when i worked for an aircraft manufacturer, a new aircraft rolled off the line and they filled it with fuel for its first test flight and a slug of aluminium fell out of the fuel strainer assembly
[07:12:20] <SirFinkus> it is neat though, at least for prototyping stuff
[07:12:40] <crutchy> it was aircraft grade astm alloy
[07:12:48] <SirFinkus> that sounds... like it wasn't supposed to happen
[07:13:00] <crutchy> it was a bit messy and dangerous
[07:13:20] <crutchy> the fuel strainer bowl was machined out of a billet of aluminium alloy
[07:13:51] <crutchy> was very lucky it happened when it did really
[07:14:45] <crutchy> 3d printing is good for marketing
[07:14:53] <SirFinkus> maybe I should 3d print a new foot, I just took the bandage off and it's pretty nasty
[07:14:55] <crutchy> clients have orgasms :p
[07:15:14] <crutchy> that sucks. did you have your revenge on the mac?
[07:15:44] <SirFinkus> no, I'd usually go out and give it some 7.62x54r, but I kind of want to get it running again
[07:15:45] <chromas> 3d print a new toe
[07:17:39] <SirFinkus> it's in "probably should have gotten stitches" territory
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[07:21:39] <SirFinkus> super_glue++
[07:21:39] <Bender> karma - super_glue: 1
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[07:23:37] <crutchy> quick everyone put your pants back on
[07:24:30] <crutchy> how goes the flamefest Konomi?
[07:24:36] <crutchy> satisfying?
[07:24:41] <SirFinkus> I won't put my pants on for you or anyone else crutchy
[07:24:53] <SirFinkus> give me nudity or give me death
[07:25:00] <crutchy> she might cut it off
[07:25:27] <SirFinkus> I'm armed, COME AND TAKE IT
[07:25:40] <Konomi> crutchy: was actually half reasonable ;p
[07:25:58] <Konomi> I expected as much when the article didn't have such a negative premis
[07:41:53] <crutchy> ima gunna do some more tinkering with my notify server thingy
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[09:02:12] <Konomi> kids are scary
[09:02:22] <Konomi> walk out having dinner friend has kids over
[09:02:32] <Konomi> standing at the sink kid runs up grabs me from behind "GOTCHA"
[09:02:37] <Konomi> almost hit the ceiling
[09:04:21] <chromas> you almost hit the ceiling? or the kid did?
[09:04:26] <chromas> >:)
[09:05:03] <Konomi> ;p
[09:14:40] <NetCraft> ♪All I want for xmas is my systemd, my systemd, my systemd♫
[09:50:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Beefed-Up iPhone Crypto "Will Lead to a Child Dying", DOJ Warned Apple Execs - http://sylnt.us - will-the-government-stop-using-crypto-too?
[10:05:11] <crutchy> Konomi, that usually means they like you
[10:41:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Molecular Flash Memory Could Store Massive Data - http://sylnt.us - not-yet-available-in-a-store-near-you
[11:07:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:07:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 929
[11:16:59] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:16:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 930
[11:20:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> how goes the hacking today?
[11:20:25] <crutchy> pretty good
[11:21:00] <crutchy> ~relay
[11:21:01] <exec> CONNECTED TO NOTIFICATION SERVER
[11:21:01] <exec> successfully connected to notification server
[11:21:01] <exec> there are 2 clients connected
[11:21:09] <crutchy> http://irciv.us.to
[11:21:09] <exec> sent from chromas: test
[11:21:10] <exec> sent from chromas: test
[11:21:15] <crutchy> hmm
[11:21:19] <crutchy> why 2?
[11:21:27] <exec> broadcast from 192.168.0.2: this one's from telnet
[11:21:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno
[11:22:01] <crutchy> seems to work pretty quick
[11:22:09] <exec> sent from crutchy: test
[11:22:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, looks like
[11:22:25] <crutchy> pretty much as soon as i hit that address it pops up in here
[11:23:09] <exec> disconnected
[11:23:50] <crutchy> hmm. not sure what made it disconnect then
[11:24:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno. maybe a timeout?
[11:24:38] <crutchy> prolly :/
[11:29:50] <crutchy> ~rehash
[11:29:51] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (109 aliases)
[11:29:59] <crutchy> ~suggest-rss test
[11:30:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll work on my terminal theme today
[11:30:20] <exec> process timed out: ~suggest-rss test
[11:30:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i have stuff of importance needs done but it can wait
[11:30:41] <crutchy> ~rehash
[11:30:42] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (109 aliases)
[11:30:49] <crutchy> terminal_theme++
[11:30:49] <Bender> karma - terminal_theme: 1
[11:31:00] <crutchy> ~suggest-rss test
[11:31:07] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[11:32:38] <crutchy> if you're looking for bot tasks, there's a list here: http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[11:32:38] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: IRC:exec suggestions
[11:32:49] <crutchy> some of them exec-specific, but not all
[11:33:02] <crutchy> first one: chromas suggested a submission feed. poll http://sylnt.us every 30 mins ~ crutchy @ 02:06, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
[11:33:02] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions ( http://soylentnews.org )
[11:33:13] <Konomi> TheMightyBuzzard: everyone needs to take time out to give their terminal some love
[11:33:35] <crutchy> pr0nctl start love
[11:33:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, struth
[11:34:27] <crutchy> should be pretty easy tmb... only need one textarea :D
[11:34:37] <crutchy> maybe a little js
[11:35:01] <crutchy> slashctl get stories
[11:35:12] <crutchy> hmm
[11:35:22] <crutchy> gotta have a login prompt too :)
[11:36:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, i may put that in the api
[11:36:55] <crutchy> put what in api?
[11:37:11] <crutchy> get stories?
[11:39:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> get subs n pending stories
[11:40:12] <Konomi> slashctl start drama \o/
[11:41:14] <crutchy> ~suggest-exec php lib for slash api
[11:41:21] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://sylnt.us
[11:43:23] <crutchy> ~relay
[11:50:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hunt for Higgs Boson and Dark Matter Now Starts On Your Sofa - http://sylnt.us - I-found-2-coins-and-a-boiled-sweet
[12:06:39] <crutchy> any site admins around? maybe wanna disable the board meeting slashbox. 29th oct was 3 weeks ago
[12:07:11] <crutchy> and we need a new site poll
[12:07:28] <crutchy> something systemd-related ought to suffice :D
[12:07:51] * Konomi seconds the motion
[12:08:31] <crutchy> if we let some of these things drag on things are gunna get stale
[12:08:43] <crutchy> and that board meeting slashbox just looks sloppy
[12:09:04] <crutchy> make it TBC or something
[12:10:11] <Konomi> someone was like saying sysvinit was 39k and that's so much better than systemd I just checked pid 1 46k
[12:10:14] <Konomi> the horror
[12:18:25] <crutchy> aw shit. now i'm gunna have to change to bsd
[12:18:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> site admins are i think pretty much mrcoolbp at this point
[12:18:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> well and prolly pj
[12:19:13] <crutchy> i submitted a shameless plug. hopefully the editors go easy on me
[12:19:14] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org
[12:19:15] <NetCraft> ^ 0304SN Submission by dogfart: Ask Soylent: What Github projects are Soylentils involved in?
[12:20:26] <crutchy> i suck at writing. maybe they can add some flair
[12:20:36] <crutchy> 'and if you call in the next 15 minutes...'
[12:24:15] <crutchy> relay seems to be stable now
[12:24:38] <crutchy> no disconnects for last half hour
[12:33:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> vt100 coming right along
[12:35:42] <crutchy> heh: http://s250.photobucket.com
[12:48:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> lot of stuff still to do but i'll get there
[12:51:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com
[12:53:26] <crutchy> awesome :D
[13:05:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> still chasing through all the comment pages and the like and haven't done up the header image/favicon yet but coming along nicely
[13:12:47] * crutchy just read about some pretty serious snow fall in the US
[13:12:52] <crutchy> hope everyone ok
[13:21:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Finally, a New Clue to Help Solve the CIA’s Mysterious Kryptos Sculpture. - http://sylnt.us
[13:31:31] <crutchy> no dept?
[13:40:44] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:40:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 931
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[13:41:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:41:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 932
[13:42:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> no snow here
[14:12:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hunt for Higgs Boson and Dark Matter Now Starts on your Sofa - http://sylnt.us - I-found-2-coins-and-a-boiled-sweet || Finally, a New Clue to Help Solve the CIA’s Mysterious Kryptos Sculpture - http://sylnt.us - lock-without-a-key
[14:14:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's nowhere near as easy making a dark theme just for future reference
[14:30:00] <Konomi> hehe
[14:40:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, think i got everything but the big logo done
[14:41:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> my gimp skills are pretty gimpy though
[14:41:25] <Konomi> you need to put on your gimp suit to be good at gimp
[14:42:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't wear a gimp suit with a big ole beard
[14:42:36] <Konomi> ya gotta tuck it!
[14:43:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was gonna say that's what she said but you're a she and you said it so it'd be literally true and thus not funny
[14:46:26] * Konomi shrugs
[14:47:19] <Konomi> I gave up on Torchlight for linux
[14:47:23] <Konomi> 1 year later still broken
[14:47:46] <Konomi> kinda annoys me when game devs go to the trouble to make a linux port and it doesn't even work right...
[14:48:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, gives me a sad
[14:53:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, ima call it done cept for the logo
[14:53:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> and ima let someone other than me do that cause i suck at logo design.
[15:00:11] <Konomi> the people who made nexuiz made the game I am playing capsized
[15:00:13] <Konomi> and they used mono
[15:00:16] <Konomi> w.t.f
[15:00:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Supercomputing: Now about Efficiency rather than Raw Power - http://sylnt.us - more-bang-for-your-watt
[15:00:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[15:00:50] <NetCraft> ^ 03Dev.SN: Dev.SN is dead developers
[15:01:08] <Konomi> I'd love to know why kde hates the cert for the dev site
[15:01:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause it's self signed
[15:01:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> we still don't have a wildcard cert, just the one for soylentnews.org, so only the main webserver.
[15:02:08] <Konomi> firefox doesn't say it's self signed
[15:02:16] <Konomi> firefox seems to be less strict thoguh
[15:02:59] <Konomi> http://i5.minus.com
[15:03:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> oops, found a bug
[15:03:17] <Konomi> weird
[15:03:23] <Konomi> why does firefox not bitch...
[15:04:09] <Konomi> guess firefox lets the cert pass for subdomains too
[15:06:43] <Konomi> Capsized is a nice game hehe
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[15:09:27] <Ethanol-fueled> OY VEY
[15:09:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup, Ethanol-fueled
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[15:09:35] <Ethanol-fueled> sup Buzzard
[15:09:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yo, mechanicjay
[15:09:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> makin a vt100 theme
[15:09:49] <Ethanol-fueled> coffee++
[15:09:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 933
[15:09:55] <Ethanol-fueled> tea--
[15:09:55] <Bender> karma - tea: 275
[15:09:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> well puttin the one i made over on dev rather
[15:10:27] * Ethanol-fueled would use the VT100
[15:10:36] <Ethanol-fueled> or green on black monochrome, for that matter.
[15:10:57] <mechanicjay> TheMightyBuzzard++
[15:10:57] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 117
[15:11:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[15:11:01] <NetCraft> " 03Dev.SN: Dev.SN is dead developers
[15:11:08] <mechanicjay> I prefer Amber on black, myself
[15:11:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahah, nice.
[15:11:18] <mechanicjay> Holy shit
[15:11:20] <mechanicjay> that's awesome
[15:11:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Good job buzzar
[15:11:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> took a while. dark themes is hard
[15:11:49] <Konomi> oh crap protech your anuses EF is here
[15:12:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine can protect itself. it has WMDs.
[15:12:28] <Konomi> TheMightyBuzzard: can't we make this a user changable theme?
[15:12:31] <Konomi> well you
[15:12:32] <Konomi> "we"
[15:12:36] <Konomi> gotta be careful with that word
[15:13:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> what, ya mean like store color values in the DB so you can set your font color?
[15:14:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> the theme just shows for AC because i set it to AC's theme in the DB
[15:15:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's fully user selectable like all the others when you're logged in. just saving time showing it off.
[15:16:05] <Ethanol-fueled> I'd use that theme. That's rad
[15:16:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> it'll be out, with a better logo mind ya, either later in december or early january.
[15:17:03] <Ethanol-fueled> anyway, gotta split. Maybe I can summon the demon SERP KANNELLA to push some stories into the ass-end of your weekend-anus.
[15:17:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy
[15:17:17] <Ethanol-fueled> lata
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[15:22:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[15:22:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 934
[15:29:23] <ar> Konomi: Mono? back i my days, nexuiz used quake3 engine
[15:29:33] <Konomi> their new game does ;p
[15:29:37] <Konomi> not old
[15:29:59] <ar> erm, s/3//
[15:30:00] <exec> last message by "erm" not found
[15:30:43] <ar> http://en.wikipedia.org
[15:30:44] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Nexuiz
[15:31:24] <Konomi> 01:59 < Konomi> the people who made nexuiz made the game I am playing capsized
[15:31:24] <Konomi> 01:59 < Konomi> and they used mono
[15:31:32] <Konomi> "capsized" "mono"
[15:32:37] <ar> oh
[15:33:22] <ar> it's late friday afternoon. i'm a bit braindead
[15:33:50] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: I'm here kinda
[15:34:30] <Konomi> ar: I typed my password into irc for my logins to my linux boxes awhile back so you get off on a mistaken sentence ;p
[15:35:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, forget what someone wanted now
[15:35:16] <mrcoolbp> the sitenews box, looking now
[15:35:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, cool beans
[15:35:56] <Konomi> jumping beans are betters
[15:36:12] <Konomi> they jump! cool beans just sit in a freezer
[15:36:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but they're like fonzie
[15:36:47] <Konomi> heart as cold as ice?
[15:37:04] <Konomi> also fonzie makes no sense to me...
[15:39:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://en.wikipedia.org
[15:39:52] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Fonzie
[15:40:20] <Konomi> 1974
[15:40:31] <Konomi> yeah that hair cut definitly looks like it
[15:40:48] <Konomi> oh happy days
[15:40:59] <Konomi> I seen that once on tv late one night
[15:41:16] <mrcoolbp> TMB: still need a logo for VT100?
[15:41:31] <Konomi> how that intro never cause masses of people to go postal is beyond me
[15:41:32] <ciri> how how brown cow
[15:41:39] <Konomi> caused*
[15:42:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, yup yup
[15:42:20] <mrcoolbp> k,, sounds fun
[15:42:53] <mrcoolbp> ooo, how about http://s250.photobucket.com
[15:42:59] <mrcoolbp> = )
[15:42:59] <NetCraft> ## Error in cell reference: missing cell name
[15:43:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> fail be upon you, NetCraft
[15:44:38] <mrcoolbp> TMB: what font is that? Courier?
[15:44:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... really not sure.
[15:45:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> family of: "Liberation Mono","Lucida Sans Typewriter","Lucida Console",Monaco,"Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Unifont CSUR",monospace
[15:45:45] <Konomi> I'm not sure how the bots here have so much trouble doing url titles on web links...
[15:45:55] <Konomi> it's not exactly hard
[15:46:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, they generally do fine until people poke at them to make it better
[15:46:37] <Konomi> get mime type -> fail on invalid -> success -> check for html/xhtml -> parse title -> else show mime type/size of file
[15:48:50] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[15:48:51] <NetCraft> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[15:49:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> i thought about using unifont entirely and slapping it up on the server in a @font-face but it's not a small font
[15:50:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus it's kinda ugly
[15:50:22] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: do you remember how big the darned logo file is? (I think it's png format)
[15:50:37] * mrcoolbp doesnt want to mess with Illustrator right now
[15:51:00] <Konomi> that code is old so pleeaasseee don't poke me too much for the glaring messes in some spots
[15:51:19] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[15:51:19] <NetCraft> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[15:51:25] <Konomi> forgot the human readable function
[15:52:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> 115x80 but you don't have to stick to that as long as it's close enough.
[15:52:14] <mrcoolbp> k
[16:00:42] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: something like this maybe? http://imgur.com
[16:00:42] <NetCraft> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
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[16:02:50] <mrcoolbp> wow, ya didn't habe to quit. It wasn't *that* bad....
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[16:04:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> stoopid minecraft. locked up the whole bloody computer.
[16:06:24] <mrcoolbp> = )
[16:06:24] <NetCraft> ## Error in cell reference: missing cell name
[16:06:29] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: something like this maybe? http://imgur.com
[16:07:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> works fer me
[16:07:30] <mrcoolbp> more accurate ASCI type art: http://imgur.com
[16:07:31] <NetCraft> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[16:08:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> 2nd one i think
[16:08:27] <mrcoolbp> i can just send ya the png file if ya like
[16:09:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> easier to pull it off the web
[16:09:37] <mrcoolbp> you need a trans BG though...
[16:10:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> vs a black background? not really.
[16:11:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> black on black doesn't contrast too much
[16:11:10] <mrcoolbp> k, have fun then
[16:11:12] <mrcoolbp> = )
[16:11:12] <NetCraft> ## Error in cell reference: missing cell name
[16:11:27] <mrcoolbp> oh netcraft, that is not a URL, it's a smiley
[16:14:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> slappin it up now
[16:15:51] <mrcoolbp> cool
[16:15:54] <mrcoolbp> it works
[16:16:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, diggin it
[16:24:39] <mrcoolbp> hmm, someone emailed me asking if I could send them the logo files so they could print up some shirts and hand them out for free to his friends and at SCALE (SoCal Linux Xpo)
[16:25:17] <mrcoolbp> we should probably release it under some kind of liscense at some point
[16:42:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Organovo Now Selling Tiny 3D-printed Human Livers - http://sylnt.us - world-of-tomorrow
[16:44:14] <mrcoolbp> does anyone speak italian? I think I'm getting spam in italian now...
[16:45:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> isn't it better if we don't speak italian if they're going to spam us in it?
[16:47:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> and yeah, i'd say go ahead and send him a high-res/svg copy if he wants to advertise for the site.
[16:48:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd say go ahead n sell em if he likes too. doesn't do anything but help us.
[16:56:56] <mrcoolbp> I feel like it should have some kinda liscense before I just start dolling it out
[16:57:01] <mrcoolbp> oo, I got one in german too
[16:57:23] <mrcoolbp> damn I need to fortify these spam filters more, my spam is outta control.
[16:57:54] <mrcoolbp> correction, this one looks like finnish
[16:58:10] <mrcoolbp> hmm, they are both linkedIN related
[16:58:14] <mrcoolbp> that's odd
[16:59:12] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: we keep getting warnings from linode about disk I/O
[16:59:18] <mrcoolbp> I Know PJ gets them too
[17:00:34] <mrcoolbp> also CPU usage
[17:01:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, found one cause. rotatelogs is configured wrong in the conf file
[17:02:24] <mrcoolbp> I just bring it up as I have no Sysop skillz, I'm barely a half-decent admin
[17:02:37] <mrcoolbp> so....I've just been ignoring the emails
[17:09:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> not going to have us up n down repeatedly to get log rotation figured out. just disabled rotation until someone else who knows it better can fix it.
[17:10:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, it say which box was having disk io issues?
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[18:03:13] * TheMightyBuzzard flings empty coffee mugs at JamesNZ
[18:04:12] * JamesNZ successfully hits them all with ice bullets
[18:05:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft, i saw mythbusters... those don't work.
[18:06:04] <JamesNZ> I reinforced them with tea leaves B-)
[18:06:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, well there you go then
[18:21:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Malwarebytes Forums Compromised - http://sylnt.us - malamanteau
[19:01:07] <chromas> =
[19:01:07] <NetCraft> ## Error in cell reference: missing cell name
[19:01:22] <chromas> Fpos. Not title related though
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[20:57:05] * chromas poked Bender
[21:01:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk scared of Artificial Intelligence - Again - http://sylnt.us - fear-and-loathing-in-theoretical-conciousness
[21:01:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> no breaking Bender
[21:02:21] <swiss> why not
[21:02:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause i need my coffee++ and i don't wanna hafta fix him for my fix
[21:03:09] <swiss> coffee--
[21:03:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 933
[21:03:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me, there's a pot on
[21:03:24] <swiss> if i broke him, i'd just help you in detoxing
[21:03:57] <chromas> tea-- #detox, dogg skillet
[21:03:57] <Bender> karma - tea: 274
[21:05:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not a toxin if it's necessary for life
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[21:39:59] <swiss> i be livin just fine without it
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[22:16:38] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:16:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 934
[22:16:59] <paulej72> ceeffo++
[22:16:59] <Bender> karma - ceeffo: 2
[22:17:23] <paulej72> coffee for people with ocd
[22:18:07] <chromas> needs moar symmetry
[22:18:13] <chromas> as does the word symmetry
[22:18:19] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[22:18:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 933
[22:19:01] <crutchy> cat++
[22:19:01] <Bender> karma - cat: 1
[22:34:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think i'm like two more cups of coffee away from becoming the great cornholio
[22:34:29] <crutchy> is that like cornhole?
[22:34:37] <crutchy> ~define cornhole
[22:34:38] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3cornhole: (O) <--- That right there.
[22:34:45] <crutchy> o.0
[22:35:50] <chromas> do you need tp?
[22:35:58] <chromas> "are you threatening me?"
[22:36:45] <mechanicjay> Seriously, never liked that show -- but that whole bit was fucking funny.
[22:37:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'truth
[22:40:06] <crutchy> first_coffee_of_the_day++
[22:40:06] <Bender> karma - first_coffee_of_the_day: 4
[22:40:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Energy Drinks Pose a Deadly Threat to Children - http://sylnt.us - inappropriate-for-minors
[22:41:16] <chromas> aren't childrens the main ones who drink that shit?
[22:42:06] <crutchy> "Energy Drinks" could be replaced by any number of other obvious things
[22:42:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> not shutting the fuck up when they're around me poses a worse threat.
[22:42:11] * JamesNZ cannae wait till NC-Renderman comes out
[22:42:23] <crutchy> ¿
[22:42:43] <JamesNZ> (NC == non-commercial)
[22:42:50] <crutchy> is that the software that pixar uses?
[22:43:06] <chromas> no, you must bow down to the greatness that is cycles!
[22:43:17] <chromas> crutchy: yeah, a render engine
[22:43:19] <JamesNZ> They're the developers, but pretty much everyone has/is using it.
[22:43:32] <JamesNZ> chromas: Depends how badly I want a job :P
[22:43:47] <crutchy> problem with rendering is that unless you got a render farm you gunna be waiting a long time
[22:43:49] <JamesNZ> I love Cycles, but it hasn't got much industry traction.
[22:43:54] <chromas> you just have to go work for Ton :D
[22:44:04] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Depends on the scene and the render engine you're using.
[22:44:10] <JamesNZ> chromas: Hah :P
[22:44:35] <JamesNZ> chromas: BTW, did you see that Brecht is mentioned on SolidAngle's site? :) He's even in the team photo.
[22:44:38] <chromas> coffee++ makes your renders faster
[22:44:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 934
[22:44:52] <chromas> I don't know who or what those are
[22:44:53] <JamesNZ> coffee-- # If only
[22:44:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 933
[22:44:55] <crutchy> guy i work with was using some autodesk thingy and it took ages on a chunky alienware box
[22:44:56] * chromas internets it
[22:45:02] <crutchy> 3ds or something
[22:45:10] <chromas> well that's 'cause alienware's a nutsac
[22:45:17] <JamesNZ> chromas: Brecht was the guy who started Cycles, he was the main dev till he got hired by SA.
[22:45:25] <crutchy> i think so too
[22:45:29] <chromas> ah
[22:45:30] <crutchy> alienware--
[22:45:30] <Bender> karma - alienware: -1
[22:45:31] <JamesNZ> (SA develops Arnold)
[22:45:41] <chromas> I guess the name seems familiar from #blendercoders or something
[22:45:49] <crutchy> dell fucks everything they touch
[22:45:59] <chromas> I thought it was DingTo's thing; or did he take over it or something?
[22:46:24] * chromas hasn't paid enough attention to really talk
[22:46:26] <JamesNZ> No, Sergey's the main guy now, but DingTo does contribute a lot.
[22:46:40] <JamesNZ> He implemented the branched path tracer for example, and OSL.
[22:47:01] <chromas> branched_path_tracing++ # except on my gpu
[22:47:01] <Bender> karma - branched_path_tracing: 1
[22:47:15] <JamesNZ> + a lot of other performance/sampling optimizations.
[22:47:24] <chromas> it must use more ram 'cause my card won't take it
[22:47:29] <JamesNZ> (blackbody node etc)
[22:47:43] <JamesNZ> No, I think it's just a consequence of how it works.
[22:48:15] * JamesNZ could be wrong, of course
[22:49:05] <chromas> for example, you were wrong about coffee++ :D
[22:49:17] <JamesNZ> coffee-- # Lies!
[22:49:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 932
[22:49:37] <JamesNZ> Coffee is a drug :P
[22:50:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[22:50:05] <NetCraft> ^ 03NOFX - Drugs Are Good - YouTube
[22:50:06] <chromas> drugs++ are good, m'kay
[22:50:06] <Bender> karma - drugs: 2
[22:50:39] <JamesNZ> Don' do no drugz now.
[22:50:43] <chromas> I, for one, cannot deny coffee's ability to keep people awake after they've come down from coffee
[22:50:53] <JamesNZ> Look at how Jesse and Walter ended up!
[22:51:15] <chromas> that's just 'cause the wife's a bitch
[22:51:19] <chromas> and then the son at the end
[22:59:20] <crutchy> i thought tea had more caffeine than coffee
[23:02:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> little under half what coffee does
[23:02:07] <NightHawk> I'd heard the same thing, have trouble believing it though.
[23:02:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> 80mg vs 200mg
[23:03:07] <crutchy> yeah seemed a bit weird given that coffee is kinda drunk for the caffeine
[23:03:19] <crutchy> and for its awesome taste
[23:03:35] <crutchy> and peer pressure
[23:03:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> and for its toasty warmness
[23:03:52] <crutchy> and for the precious
[23:05:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nasty kiwi hurts the precious....
[23:05:56] <chromas> tea-- is # diet coffee
[23:05:56] <Bender> karma - tea: 273
[23:06:56] * crutchy must have been bored last night
[23:07:07] <crutchy> sorted my iceweasel bookmarks
[23:07:20] <crutchy> cleaned out a bunch of old ones
[23:07:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> almost did that myself today. been kinda slow
[23:09:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ran outa stuff to do after making the vt100 theme
[23:09:25] <crutchy> what about your NSA bot?
[23:10:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> he does what he's told. no need to make him do more
[23:10:53] <crutchy> need moar complexity!
[23:10:57] <chromas> an irc terminal emulator…
[23:11:37] <crutchy> anything that tickles your fancy in the suggestions list @ http://sylnt.us
[23:11:39] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Suggestions ( http://wiki.soylentnews.org )
[23:11:47] <JamesNZ> No bot is complete until can read mail.
[23:11:59] <crutchy> other peoples email?
[23:12:01] <JamesNZ> s/can/it can/
[23:12:02] <exec> <JamesNZ> No bot is complete until it can read mail.
[23:12:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> bot is complete when i can't think of anything else i want it to do.
[23:12:21] <JamesNZ> That's up to the owner.
[23:13:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> irc being a better interface than the normal method of acquiring the information is necessary or i don't write it.
[23:14:50] <Subsentient> http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:50] <NetCraft> ^ 0304SN Submission by Subsentient: Suggestions for init system features?
[23:14:58] <Subsentient> afk
[23:15:08] <crutchy> ooh
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[23:15:24] <JamesNZ> Rename it `epochd` :P
[23:15:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup, ef
[23:15:52] <crutchy> Subsentient, you should totally take advantage of the systemd furor to flog epoch
[23:15:58] <crutchy> aye focker!
[23:17:09] <crutchy> Subsentient, do you have a github repo for epoch?
[23:17:20] <crutchy> so i can add it to the spy channel :d
[23:18:00] <JamesNZ> https://github.com
[23:18:01] <NetCraft> ^ 03Subsentient/epoch · GitHub
[23:18:43] <crutchy> added
[23:18:49] <crutchy> thanks JamesNZ
[23:18:54] <crutchy> JamesNZ++
[23:18:54] <Bender> karma - jamesnz: -24
[23:18:59] <crutchy> ¿
[23:19:06] <JamesNZ> \o/
[23:19:11] <crutchy> oh lol prolly the coffee-- thingy
[23:19:21] <JamesNZ> Yep :D
[23:19:37] <crutchy> that's ok. not to bad
[23:19:40] <crutchy> look at poutine
[23:19:45] <crutchy> !karma poutine
[23:19:45] <Bender> karma of poutine is -362
[23:20:12] <JamesNZ> The truth is resisted :P
[23:20:23] <Ethanol-fueled> yo
[23:20:31] <crutchy> i think fast food is more evil than coffee
[23:20:36] <crutchy> and keynesianism
[23:20:40] <Ethanol-fueled> coffee is good for you
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[23:20:53] <crutchy> keynes was satan
[23:21:09] <JamesNZ> Horns and all?
[23:21:22] <crutchy> prolly not, but he was a godsend for the political class
[23:21:36] <JamesNZ> Ah.
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[23:21:43] * JamesNZ hadn't heard of it
[23:21:53] <crutchy> ~define keynesianism
[23:21:55] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Keynesianism: *noun*; a school of economic thought prevalent after World War 2; around 1980, Keynesianism was supposedly superseded by monetarism, and then by the rational expectations hypothesis. Theory is named f...
[23:22:30] <crutchy> bernanke is a keynesian
[23:23:03] <crutchy> its the cause of all the money printing
[23:23:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> keynsianism is an "in case of recession, break glass" cabinet with a handbroom and dustpan in it
[23:23:54] <crutchy> pretty much
[23:24:18] <JamesNZ> Didn't Bernanke do a good job of handling the recession?
[23:24:19] <crutchy> but politicians use it as an excuse to spend away their responsibilities too
[23:24:22] <crutchy> no
[23:24:29] <JamesNZ> (note: I have not kept up with economics/politics)
[23:24:35] <crutchy> the US is fucked
[23:24:38] <crutchy> so is europe
[23:24:42] <crutchy> and japan
[23:24:58] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[23:24:58] <chromas> everyone except mexico
[23:25:09] <crutchy> australia hasn't printed thank goodness
[23:25:15] <crutchy> well not on a big scale anyway
[23:25:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> JamesNZ, we've currently got 20+% unemployment, they just quit counting the ones who'd been unemployed too long.
[23:25:16] <chromas> south_america++ # 'cause they've got all the drugs we want
[23:25:17] <Bender> karma - south_america: 1
[23:25:35] <JamesNZ> TheMightyBuzzard: You're in the US?
[23:25:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[23:25:49] <JamesNZ> Youch, that's pretty bad :O
[23:26:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> makes france look like they know what they're doing.
[23:26:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> obama 16, baby! burn it all!
[23:26:48] <crutchy> JamesNZ, we're prolly a bit lucky cos we're completely surrounded by shark-infested waters
[23:27:04] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Hah :D
[23:27:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, you can always feed the keynsians to the sharks
[23:27:11] <crutchy> the northern hemisphere is gunna turn bad in next few decades
[23:27:43] <crutchy> that might end up happening
[23:28:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> on a happier note though, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com
[23:28:17] <crutchy> eventually you guys (meaning the ones that haven't woken up yet) are gunna realize they been duped
[23:28:35] <crutchy> haha noice
[23:28:46] <crutchy> ass++
[23:28:46] <Bender> karma - ass: 2
[23:29:03] <crutchy> arse++
[23:29:03] <Bender> karma - arse: 1
[23:29:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, wedgies just don't play as big a part of adult life as they did when i was a kid. it's kinda a shame.
[23:29:59] <JamesNZ> ~define wedgies
[23:30:00] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3wedgies: a wedgie is a punishment for tighty-whitey wearers like me their are many kinds of wedgies but the most simple is yanking the underwear up from behind.
[23:30:02] <chromas> and that's why we're whee we are today
[23:30:03] <crutchy> i thought permanent wedgies were a standard part of adult female wardrobe nowadays?
[23:30:10] <JamesNZ> TIL O_o
[23:30:52] <crutchy> shitstrings++
[23:30:52] <Bender> karma - shitstrings: 1
[23:30:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, just being up the crack doesn't constitute a wedgie. has to be outside, upward pressure applied.
[23:31:03] <crutchy> ah
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[23:40:19] <chromas> moar systemds
[23:40:24] <chromas> =nick systemd
[23:40:24] NetCraft is now known as systemd
[23:41:03] systemd is now known as netctl
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[23:41:33] <systemddd> we really are taking over
[23:41:37] <chromas> different vhosticles though
[23:41:42] <systemddd> believe the hype
[23:42:15] <chromas> oh yeah and it's easy enough to annoy them too
[23:42:20] <chromas> just call it System D
[23:48:17] <crutchy> or systemD
[23:48:26] <crutchy> or SystemDD
[23:49:21] * chromas wonders if they pronounce it systemmed
[23:49:30] <chromas> actually I guess there's videos but that's a lot of work
[23:49:35] <systemddd> the daemon for the daemon of the system daemon
[23:49:49] <crutchy> yeah i think i heard it pronouced like that by french people
[23:50:06] <chromas> gunoo / systemmed
[23:53:03] <chromas> Subsentient: integration with aqu4
[23:53:06] <chromas> :D :D
[23:54:11] <JamesNZ> I actually heard someone in a talk pronounce it systemmed.
[23:54:34] <crutchy> ~find-first aprmot.enn.lu
[23:55:06] <exec> first privmsg containing "aprmot.enn.lu" in #soylent: [2014-11-21 23:54:34] <crutchy> ~find-first aprmot.enn.lu
[23:55:29] <crutchy> lol duh
[23:55:36] * crutchy is thick today
[23:57:46] * crutchy is off to mow some lawn. bbl
[23:58:10] <JamesNZ> \o