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[00:01:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russian Memorial to Steve Jobs Torn Down Because Tim Cook 'Called for Sodomy' - http://sylnt.us - lady-putin-doth-protest-too-much
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[00:25:33] <paulej72> is there an issue
[00:26:58] * SpallsHurgenson notices the /topic is now five days out of date
[00:28:29] <paulej72> did i have the max clients on the wiki too low. bery was having a hissy fit a week or so ago and was causing http to use up too much resources.
[00:30:45] <swiss> ugh, i want to just shell out and buy the $350 asus t100, but i am trying to hold out for black friday deals
[00:31:58] <paulej72> i was unavalible fixing a virus/malware infection on one of my professor's windows machines.
[00:32:06] * SpallsHurgenson has no confidence in the docking-hinge-thingee on the transformers
[00:33:15] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: i figure they have to be decent, i haven't seen complaints
[00:33:42] <SpallsHurgenson> probably because nobody can report them 'cause the dock broke and they can't type anymore :) :) :)
[00:34:58] <SpallsHurgenson> then again, I'd always buy something like a toughbook if I had the money. I like big and sturdy stuff :)
[00:35:30] <swiss> i don't want this as a primary laptop
[00:35:42] <swiss> i want it as a "lay around the house and irc/browse the internet" laptop
[00:36:57] <paulej72> buy a tablet then forget the keyboard and extras
[00:37:04] <SpallsHurgenson> I hate surfing on laptops or tablets
[00:37:34] <silverly> what about the lenovo yoga?
[00:39:31] <paulej72> i always get shocked when i surf on my tablet
[00:39:36] <swiss> paulej72: i can't type well on a tablet
[00:39:45] <paulej72> same
[00:39:46] <swiss> and i was considering a tablet + bt kb
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[00:39:55] <swiss> but the t100 is basically that, anyway
[00:40:34] <paulej72> but i aslo dont sit in a position to type with a reql keyboard on my tablet
[00:40:39] <SpallsHurgenson> I was never happy with tablet + bt-kb. screen is too low, and keyboard too wiggly :)
[00:41:06] <swiss> also, t100 is microusb charging
[00:41:26] <paulej72> right now i am reclining on my bed watching tv and ircing
[00:41:42] <SpallsHurgenson> I like my tablet for reading, quick look-ups of data (email, web) but if it requires lots of intereaction I go to the PC
[00:41:49] <SpallsHurgenson> (or a proper laptop if I'm mobile)
[00:42:18] <swiss> paulej72: that's why i need a laptop, so i can have it at weird angles!
[00:42:20] <paulej72> same here SpallsHurgenson
[00:42:51] <SpallsHurgenson> I like the idea of a tablet - it's my Star Trek PADD! - far more than actually using it :)
[00:43:31] <SpallsHurgenson> (well, actually, it's my 2001 e-newspaper, but that just dates me :)
[00:43:57] <swiss> do you have any good ideas for alternatives?
[00:44:15] <swiss> whatever it is needs to be able to run ubuntu smoothly
[00:44:44] <SpallsHurgenson> honestly, after a few years of tableting I went back to a cheap 11" laptop for mobile use
[00:45:00] <paulej72> is there a beast that can run ubuntu soomthly :)
[00:45:31] <SpallsHurgenson> (in my case, a cheapo Acer... its flimsy and underpowered but I figure if it breaks I can just replace it without much of an impact on my wallet :)
[00:46:34] <SpallsHurgenson> these days the tablet mostly sits in the corner unless I want to read a particularly large PDF
[00:47:50] <swiss> paulej72: my other laptop did :P
[00:47:57] <swiss> but the power port snapped
[00:48:15] <swiss> and it's waiting for me to start up the massive project of soldering in a dell power port
[00:48:38] <swiss> but a i7QM + 16GB of ram and an SSD ran ubuntu just fine ;)
[00:48:51] <paulej72> solder on a new one, or frankenstein on an external connector
[00:49:16] <swiss> i have a dell power plug for it
[00:49:24] <silverly> (transparent terminals)++ #so you can watch your irc go by when coding
[00:49:24] <Bender> karma - (transparent terminals): 1
[00:49:26] <swiss> i just need to decide how to mount it safely
[00:49:45] <paulej72> duct tape
[00:50:04] <paulej72> bondo and tigerhair
[00:50:12] <paulej72> jb weld
[00:50:40] <paulej72> silicone caulk
[00:50:41] <swiss> lol
[00:50:49] <swiss> problem is that the plug doesn't fit in the case
[00:51:02] <paulej72> external mount
[00:51:14] <swiss> right, but I don't know how I can do that in a safe manner yet
[00:51:45] <paulej72> epoxy and fiberglass
[00:52:09] <swiss> yeah...
[00:52:13] <swiss> again, big project
[00:54:35] <paulej72> attach an induction pad to the bottom of the case
[00:56:55] <swiss> lol
[00:56:55] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[01:00:43] <paulej72> ciri: you
[01:04:39] <SpallsHurgenson> no new conclusions, but good to see this stuff is getting broader notice in the MSM http://www.nytimes.com
[01:04:39] <NetCraft> ^ Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 ( http://www.nytimes.com )
[01:05:34] * chromas wonders what "r=" is and why we get redirected to 3
[01:18:03] <SpallsHurgenson> what, you think you are too good for r=3? I'll have you know my pappy browses at r=3 an if its good enough for him it's certainly good enough for you! :)
[01:20:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Plane Crash that Gave Us GPS - http://sylnt.us - standing-on-the-shoulders
[01:21:28] <chromas> "in my day, we didn't even have the r property!"
[01:22:12] <SpallsHurgenson> Verizon sounds a bit, I dunno, whiney. http://arstechnica.com
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[01:46:00] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: i get 300 Mbit for $65/month
[01:46:04] <swiss> that's not the worst price ever
[01:46:21] <swiss> in california
[01:47:10] <SpallsHurgenson> Yeah, well I have a choice of 1.5 (well, technically 3) Mbit for $30 or 5MBit for $45.
[01:48:02] <SpallsHurgenson> so I think the article may have a point :)
[01:53:28] <SpallsHurgenson> <sigh> I think I may have to switch back to Firefox from Palemoon; it is becoming increasingly incompatible with addons https://addons.palemoon.org
[01:57:34] <chromas> "Mozilla adopted a nearly completely rewritten user interface and theme"
[01:57:57] <chromas> oh yeah, isn't that the one where they copied Opera and took away themes to be replaced with just a shitty wallpaper?
[01:58:26] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but at least adblock works
[01:58:42] * chromas wonders if you can do a sed to replace the guid
[02:14:51] * SpallsHurgenson forgot how many hacks he had running to make the Firefox GUI usable; I really don't want to go back
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[02:35:42] <SpallsHurgenson> beyond games, this would set an excellent precedent for abandoned media as a whole http://arstechnica.com
[02:51:22] <chromas> http://abcnews.go.com
[02:51:25] <chromas> people--
[02:51:25] <Bender> karma - people: -5
[03:01:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Internet Archive: 900 Classic Arcade Games on your Web Browser - http://sylnt.us - and-all-of-them-are-better-than-destiny
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[04:20:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Looking for Macroscopic Dark Matter - http://sylnt.us - your-basic-space-colour,-is-black
[04:40:12] <SirFinkus> 1 hour of video encoded
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[04:41:11] <juggs> you testing out your pc's space heater capabilities SirFinkus ?
[04:41:19] <SirFinkus> yep
[04:41:23] <SirFinkus> and x265
[04:42:21] <SirFinkus> the file is 500MB so far, for an hour of 1080p video that's not bad
[04:42:26] <SirFinkus> assuming it looks decent
[04:45:41] <chromas> Can you peek or is the file locked for readin?
[04:46:34] <SirFinkus> nothing seems to be able to play it, might just need to be stitched up by the encoder
[04:46:49] <SirFinkus> idk too much about x265
[05:03:02] <Konomi> ~http://boingboing.net/2014/11/04/chip-and-pin-cards-let-nearby.html
[05:03:08] <Konomi> stupid tiddle
[05:03:09] <Konomi> http://boingboing.net
[05:03:20] <Konomi> that's awesome rfid in everything I say
[06:00:03] <juggs> Ya - all well and good in theory. But try putting through a large foreign currency transaction on a UK Visa contactless payment and watch it fail in the fires of their fraud protection systems. They're pain in the ass enough for UK Sterling transactions, can't imagine they are more lax about allowing a gadjillion rupee transaction go through on a card that has just been used to buy 10 of petrol in dullsville, suburban slowdeath, UK.
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[06:25:41] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:25:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 893
[06:26:32] <Konomi> caffeine++
[06:26:32] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 32
[06:26:41] <juggs> sleep++
[06:26:41] <Bender> karma - sleep: 9
[06:47:39] <ar> tea++
[06:47:39] <Bender> karma - tea: 193
[06:47:46] <ar> coffee--
[06:47:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 892
[06:48:03] <ar> sleep++
[06:48:03] <Bender> karma - sleep: 10
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[07:21:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mark Mitchell Discusses Court Takedown of DeepCapture - http://sylnt.us - who-you-know,-not-what-you-know
[07:27:48] <crutchy> coffee++
[07:27:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 893
[07:28:18] <chromas> crutchee++
[07:28:18] <Bender> karma - crutchee: 1
[07:28:24] <chromas> pizza++
[07:28:24] <Bender> karma - pizza: 17
[07:32:56] <crutchy> how's things?
[07:33:07] <crutchy> s/i/o/
[07:33:07] <sedctl> <crutchy> how's thongs?
[07:34:03] <crutchy> buttfart: s/ciri/spliff/
[07:34:11] <crutchy> aw
[07:34:19] <chromas> need a ~bot new
[07:34:42] <chromas> I burned a pizza crust earlier so I've been giving pieces to the dog
[07:34:53] <crutchy> i he on a chair?
[07:35:21] <chromas> nah I just toss a piece and she runs off with it; then I hear very loud crunching sounds
[07:36:07] <chromas> also finally got hives done so now I get to start hive-ifying the bot
[07:36:27] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[07:36:27] <NetCraft> ^ 03Sargents Pies - Brand TV Commercial - YouTube
[07:37:23] <crutchy> so you have hives?
[07:37:35] <crutchy> chromas++
[07:37:35] <Bender> karma - chromas: 46
[07:38:29] <chromas> yep
[07:38:31] * chromas scratches
[07:39:25] * crutchy trundles off to #github to go straight... to the ergo irrevicable concurrent visavis pertinent... source
[07:40:36] <chromas> sounds like someone's been watching those nonexistant matrix sequals
[07:40:40] <chromas> sequel
[07:40:48] <chromas> poor dog; doesn't even get to lick the plates
[07:40:53] <chromas> (we're low class around here)
[07:41:29] <chromas> savory_pies++
[07:41:29] <Bender> karma - savory_pies: 1
[07:41:53] * crutchy likes the face when he says "nooo"
[07:41:58] <crutchy> so sad :p
[07:42:12] <swiss> voggr--
[07:42:12] <Bender> karma - voggr: -1
[07:42:14] <swiss> fuck
[07:42:16] <swiss> drunk++
[07:42:16] <Bender> karma - drunk: 1
[07:42:22] <swiss> coffee--
[07:42:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 892
[07:42:32] <chromas> s/vogg/vadger/
[07:42:56] <swiss> vaggr == drunk in "i can't type speak"
[07:43:24] <crutchy> swiss, s/g/gin/
[07:43:24] <sedctl> <crutchy> <swiss> vagingr == drunk in "i can't type speak"
[07:43:35] <crutchy> err
[07:43:46] <crutchy> yeah was chromas said
[07:43:47] <swiss> s/gr/gina
[07:43:47] * sedctl tosses a / to swuss
[07:43:52] <swiss> sedctl: fuck u
[07:44:24] <crutchy> swiss, s/u/beta!/
[07:44:24] <sedctl> <crutchy> <swiss> sedctl: fbeta!ck u
[07:44:31] <crutchy> ¿
[07:44:37] <swiss> hahahaaaaaaahaahaaa
[07:44:41] <crutchy> not havin much luck here
[07:44:47] <swiss> i love when sed goeswrong
[07:45:00] <swiss> its' 10x more funnier than when sed goes right
[07:45:05] <Konomi> you replaced the first u silly
[07:45:06] <crutchy> or left
[07:45:13] <Konomi> SirFinkus: s/ u/beta!/
[07:45:18] <Konomi> damn you tab
[07:45:22] <crutchy> haha
[07:45:27] <Konomi> swiss, s/ u/beta!/
[07:45:32] <swiss> too late
[07:45:33] <Konomi> guess it won't work now
[07:46:00] <chromas> If I was smart enough to grok gawk, I'd make it search back for the nearest match
[07:46:04] <crutchy> sedctl, s/err/fuck i have nfi how to fix that one/
[07:46:43] <crutchy> how do you gawk at grok?
[07:47:09] <crutchy> ~x open gawkish_hordes
[07:47:10] <exec> script "gawkish_hordes" opened for editing by crutchy in #soylent
[07:47:51] * chromas blames FoobarBazbot
[07:48:58] <crutchy> ~x add $parts=explode(" ",$trailing);
[07:48:59] <exec> script line appended
[07:49:09] <crutchy> ~lock ~x
[07:49:09] <exec> alias "~x" locked for nick "crutchy" in "#Soylent"
[07:49:30] <crutchy> add $alias=$parts[0];
[07:49:31] <exec> script line appended
[07:49:42] <chromas> can you ~list by line number?
[07:49:48] <chromas> or ~x list 12
[07:49:53] <crutchy> add array_shift($parts);
[07:49:53] <exec> script line appended
[07:50:06] <crutchy> $trailing=implode(" ",$parts);
[07:50:14] <crutchy> oops
[07:50:19] <crutchy> add $trailing=implode(" ",$parts);
[07:50:20] <exec> script line appended
[07:50:39] <crutchy> if ($alias=="fart") {
[07:50:43] <crutchy> fuck
[07:50:47] <crutchy> add if ($alias=="fart") {
[07:50:47] <exec> script line appended
[07:51:32] <Konomi> https://imgur.com
[07:51:33] <NetCraft> ^ 03What I've realized about people in my many years of schooling - Imgur
[07:55:01] <crutchy> add exec("gawk $trailing"); }
[07:55:02] <exec> script line appended
[07:55:50] <crutchy> close
[07:55:51] <exec> script "gawkish_hordes" closed by crutchy in #soylent
[07:55:56] <crutchy> ~unlock
[07:55:57] <exec> alias "~x" unlocked for nick "crutchy" in "#Soylent"
[07:56:21] * chromas is painfully aware that his degree in nonsense won't pay off until he becomes a know-it-all professor in dribbery-droo
[07:56:43] <crutchy> dribbery_droo++
[07:56:43] <Bender> karma - dribbery_droo: 1
[07:59:20] <crutchy> hmm
[07:59:54] <crutchy> chromas, remember how i was trying to figure out how to trick exec into executing arbitrary unfettered shell commands?
[08:00:04] <crutchy> i think live scripts might be the answer
[08:00:06] <chromas> yeah
[08:00:10] <chromas> oh yeah
[08:00:17] <crutchy> eval++
[08:00:17] <Bender> karma - eval: 1
[08:00:24] <chromas> they don't get filtered on input?
[08:00:28] <crutchy> nah
[08:00:32] <chromas> >:)
[08:00:34] <crutchy> they prolly should
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[08:00:46] <chromas> well, as long as not everyone can edit them
[08:00:59] <crutchy> i just realized when i was typing that exec command
[08:01:12] <crutchy> yeah only operator can use ~x
[08:01:20] <crutchy> i think :/
[08:03:21] <chromas> ~x add $shell("cat /proc/mdstat")
[08:03:45] <crutchy> ooh what's that one?
[08:04:07] <crutchy> aww
[08:04:08] <crutchy> cat: /proc/mdstat: No such file or directory
[08:04:34] <chromas> it's for softraid
[08:04:42] <chromas> so it must only be there when you need it
[08:04:55] <crutchy> part of mdadm?
[08:05:02] <chromas> yeah
[08:05:17] <chromas> or at least the mdraid driver
[08:05:33] * chromas just wanted a file that would be harmless to let out across the interbutts
[08:09:54] <crutchy> there's all sorts of awesome in /proc
[08:10:06] * crutchy is cat'ing a few things
[08:13:04] <crutchy> gawk is hard
[08:13:49] <chromas> http://www.youtube.com
[08:13:50] <NetCraft> ^ 03Jar Jar Returns | Robot Chicken | Adult Swim - YouTube
[08:20:31] <crutchy> cp_Helmet++
[08:20:31] <Bender> karma - cp_helmet: 1
[08:20:47] <crutchy> ~define helmet
[08:20:49] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3helmet: 1. the top of a man's penis, or a hermaphodite's penis I guess as well. Also reffered to as a purple helmet. 2. A condom, as worn on the head of your penis, perhaps a more accurate term. 3. A...
[08:21:04] <chromas> "I guess as well"
[08:21:14] <chromas> http://www.youtube.com
[08:21:15] <NetCraft> ^ 03Darth Vader in Love - YouTube
[08:21:18] <crutchy> that part must be subjective
[08:24:39] <crutchy> hmm
[08:25:03] <crutchy> not sure i understand what's going on here: https://github.com
[08:25:27] <crutchy> kHive_ancestor(items[z]).to_stream
[08:26:17] <Konomi> http://www.misfile.com
[08:26:18] <NetCraft> ^ 03Book #5 - Misfile
[08:26:22] <Konomi> this is really annoying when it happens
[08:26:38] <crutchy> property items[index: string]: string read getItem write setItem; default;
[08:26:43] <chromas> crutchy: typcasting the generic pointer
[08:26:51] <crutchy> ah'
[08:27:15] <crutchy> was trying to figure out if you were typecasting a string to an object
[08:28:13] <chromas> the 'root node' is a hashlist whose items are generic pointers, so I just did that instead of making a descendant or whatever the correct thing would be
[08:28:24] <crutchy> ah
[08:28:59] <chromas> doin_it_wrong++
[08:28:59] <Bender> karma - doin_it_wrong: 1
[08:29:41] <chromas> "You can't wear a black bra under a white shirt!" Who made up that rule?
[08:29:51] <chromas> black_bra_under_white_shirt++
[08:29:51] <Bender> karma - black_bra_under_white_shirt: 1
[08:30:29] <crutchy> nah i mistakenly thought khive_cluster descended from khive_ancestor
[08:30:35] <Konomi> they see a black outline it's kind of embarassing
[08:30:38] <crutchy> (cos it had a items prop)
[08:31:10] <crutchy> chromas++ # for sticking up for his code
[08:31:10] <Bender> karma - chromas: 47
[08:31:28] <chromas> I should use a tree instead, for unlimited recursion
[08:31:29] <chromas> effort--
[08:31:29] <Bender> karma - effort: -2
[08:31:49] <crutchy> roll_your_own_flat_file_database_engine++
[08:31:49] <Bender> karma - roll_your_own_flat_file_database_engine: 1
[08:33:01] <crutchy> konomi, are they the same women who wear pants that are too small that show the top of their gstring
[08:33:03] <crutchy> ?
[08:33:15] <Konomi> I'd say that's on purpose ;p
[08:33:23] <crutchy> its kinda gross
[08:33:31] <Konomi> humans are pretty gross ;p
[08:33:34] <crutchy> yeah
[08:33:41] <chromas> crutchy: only in a walmart
[08:33:54] <crutchy> my wife otoh.. rrrrow!
[08:33:56] <crutchy> :p
[08:34:01] <chromas> whale_tail_on_whales--
[08:34:01] <Bender> karma - whale_tail_on_whales: -1
[08:34:06] <crutchy> lol
[08:34:06] <ciri> hahaha
[08:34:16] <crutchy> ~define whale tail
[08:34:22] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Whale_tail: Whale tail is the Y-shaped waistband of a thong or g-string when visible above the waistline of low-rise jeans, shorts, or a skirt that resembles a whale's tail.[1][2][3] Intentionally or unintentiona...
[08:34:23] <chromas> theriouthly?
[08:34:24] <chromas> ah
[08:34:32] <crutchy> wikipedia!?
[08:34:40] <chromas> very surprised at ud
[08:34:44] <crutchy> and what's with the _
[08:34:50] <crutchy> in the green thing
[08:35:02] <chromas> Wikipedia does that to spaces
[08:35:12] <chromas> probably need a buttmagical filter for it
[08:35:18] <crutchy> i think the green bit is taken from the redirected uri
[08:35:24] <crutchy> yeah
[08:37:22] <chromas> I was thinking of adding a table-type hive; not sure if it's useful in a bot
[08:46:20] <crutchy> a 2D thingamabob?
[08:47:06] <crutchy> does fp have json encode/decode?
[08:47:14] <chromas> yeah; it would be like a spreadsheet table (with B2 letter-number syntax)
[08:47:18] <chromas> yeah somewhere
[08:47:21] <chromas> there's a unit for it
[08:48:23] <crutchy> exec is a dumbot... just has basic string buckets. if a script wants fancy-shmancy shit in its bucket it has to encode/decode it
[08:48:51] <crutchy> though there's standard lib functions for array buckets
[08:49:18] <crutchy> is monopoly all one process?
[08:49:41] <chromas> could have a function that auto-(en/de)codes buckets
[08:49:43] <crutchy> monoprocopoly?
[08:49:52] <chromas> like a binary-type bucket that's really base64ing the contents
[08:49:58] <chromas> sadly yeah
[08:50:20] <crutchy> monopoly++
[08:50:20] <Bender> karma - monopoly: 15
[08:50:46] <chromas> exec++
[08:50:46] <Bender> karma - exec: 13
[08:50:52] <crutchy> there's get_bucket and get_array_bucket functions (and set equivs)
[08:51:03] <crutchy> buckets are pretty easy with lib functions
[08:51:11] <chromas> get_bin_bucket
[08:51:23] * crutchy wonders if it would be possible to encode a binary in a bucket
[08:51:28] <crutchy> seems possible
[08:51:35] * chromas puts a bucket in a bucket
[08:51:48] <crutchy> lol
[08:52:10] * chromas gives exec Xzibit
[08:52:22] <crutchy> now you got me wondering if i could put memory pointers in buckets and create shared memory
[08:52:41] <chromas> does php give you pointers?
[08:52:41] <Alberto> crutchy a good idea will be that exec does a youtube-dl
[08:52:45] <Alberto> then send you the video
[08:52:47] <chromas> and are they 'real 'pointers?
[08:52:47] <Alberto> using DCC
[08:52:48] <Alberto> :D
[08:53:34] * chromas gives Alberto Video DownloadHelper and Flashgot
[08:53:39] <crutchy> nah sorry no youspew-dl. i'm in straya-we-haven't-quite-caught-up-with-the-intertubes-yet
[08:54:03] <chromas> crutchy: you could do that but require a payment first :)
[09:01:19] <crutchy> alberto: google 'dvdvideosoft'
[09:01:35] * chromas hasn't heard of that
[09:01:36] <crutchy> not that i know anything about that sort of stuff ;d
[09:01:54] <chromas> if you've got vlc or mplayer you don't need to transcode or anything
[09:02:42] <chromas> crutchy: if you have an older netbook or something that can't play YouTube videos well, downloading is the fix
[09:02:45] <crutchy> chromas, s/code/sexual/
[09:02:51] <crutchy> bugga
[09:03:22] <chromas> 'cause playing the exact video stream without transcoding works smoothly in vlc/mplayer even though the flash player pins the cpu and can't keep up
[09:03:35] <chromas> flash--
[09:03:35] <Bender> karma - flash: -2
[09:03:38] <crutchy> i (don't) usually just use it for mp3
[09:03:47] <chromas> macromedia-- # for selling out
[09:03:47] <Bender> karma - macromedia: -1
[09:04:36] * crutchy doesn't watch a lot of movies or tv. i like youtube for just watching once online
[09:04:54] <crutchy> not into 'collections'
[09:05:29] * chromas only has 31GiBs o' music
[09:06:16] <crutchy> got a bit. too much makes it hard to find stuff
[09:07:11] <chromas> crutchy: yeah there's a json unit; it's documented in the FCL reference
[09:07:24] <crutchy> i'd just listen to it on youtube except i'm attached to an old winamp dsp plugin
[09:07:42] <crutchy> and the old winamp doesn't do youtube
[09:08:02] <chromas> vlc++
[09:08:02] <Bender> karma - vlc: 2
[09:08:09] <chromas> foobar2000++
[09:08:09] <Bender> karma - foobar2000: 1
[09:09:29] <crutchy> vlc++ # enabled me to play a uk region dvd in australia
[09:09:29] <Bender> karma - vlc: 3
[09:09:54] <chromas> regional_restriction--
[09:09:54] <Bender> karma - regional_restriction: -1
[09:09:58] <crutchy> mysterious_cities_of_gold++
[09:09:58] <Bender> karma - mysterious_cities_of_gold: 1
[09:33:10] <crutchy> coffee++
[09:33:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 893
[09:33:31] <crutchy> pretty_colorful_scrolly_terminal_thingys++
[09:33:31] <Bender> karma - pretty_colorful_scrolly_terminal_thingys: 1
[10:11:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Movement Improves Girls' Computational Skills - http://sylnt.us - programmers-twerk
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[10:32:10] <prospectacle> "My new spleen came from a guy who liked to motorcycle. Vrrm, vrrrrrrrrrrm" - Futurama
[10:34:41] <chromas> futurama++
[10:34:41] <Bender> karma - futurama: 1
[10:34:44] <chromas> what?!
[10:35:03] <chromas> Bender: why aren't you secretly incrementing that?
[10:36:04] <prospectacle> lol
[10:36:04] <ciri> lol damn!
[10:36:08] <prospectacle> ciri--
[10:36:08] <Bender> karma - ciri: 4
[10:36:39] <prospectacle> bender only cares about bender bending rodriguez, not about the show as a whole
[10:36:48] <chromas> True
[10:36:51] <chromas> Bender: karma Bender
[10:36:51] <Bender> karma of bender is -5
[10:37:02] <chromas> He probably raised it so high it overflowed
[11:04:14] <crutchy> i thought futurama would have a constant karma of 1e12
[11:04:51] <crutchy> !beer futurama
[11:04:51] * ciri pours some futurama from the tap and slides it to crutchy
[11:04:58] <crutchy> hmm
[11:05:18] <crutchy> just thought i'd check to make sure there wasn't an equivalent to karma for beer
[11:05:35] <crutchy> ~gday ciri
[11:05:36] * exec pulchritudinously tosses an assfull of $insert_beverage_here to ciri
[11:05:44] <crutchy> ~gday ciri
[11:05:44] * exec insubordinately postulates a wad of beer towards ciri
[11:05:45] <chromas> ~define pulchritudinously
[11:05:55] <crutchy> yeah
[11:05:56] <chromas> ~define pulchritudinous
[11:05:57] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3pulchritudinous: Despite all evidence to the contrary, pulchritudinous is used to describe a person of great physical attractiveness. No one is quite sure why this is, because the word *sounds* like something unpleasa...
[11:05:58] <exec> pulchritudinously: unable to find definition
[11:06:00] <crutchy> wtf does it man
[11:06:14] <crutchy> umm
[11:06:20] <crutchy> i'm none the wiser
[11:06:25] <crutchy> :d
[11:06:40] <prospectacle> http://dictionary.reference.com
[11:06:41] <NetCraft> ^ 03Pulchritudinous | Define Pulchritudinous at Dictionary.com
[11:08:19] <prospectacle> from Middle English < Latin pulchritūdō beauty, equivalent to pulchri- (combining form of "pulcher" beautiful) + "-tūdō" -tude
[11:14:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:14:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 894
[11:39:11] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:39:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 895
[11:39:58] <crutchy> wonder if all of the republicans that ran on reducing the spending will keep their promises
[11:40:10] <Alberto> you live on au
[11:40:12] <Alberto> don't worry
[11:40:13] <Alberto> :p
[11:40:42] <crutchy> australia will be collateral damage in any US collapse
[11:40:48] <prospectacle> lol I get it, "keep their promises", pretending you've never seen a politician before
[11:40:49] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[11:41:01] <prospectacle> ciri--
[11:41:01] <Bender> karma - ciri: 3
[11:41:17] <Alberto> crutchy well US already collapsed
[11:41:23] <crutchy> i would sure as hell trust a conservative before i trusted a socialist
[11:41:25] <Alberto> trillons of internal debt
[11:41:28] <Alberto> and China owns them
[11:41:30] <crutchy> alberto, you aint seen nothin yet
[11:41:49] <Alberto> crutchy i agree with you
[11:41:58] <Alberto> sicialist's are populist's
[11:42:03] <Alberto> it kils country's
[11:42:05] <Alberto> Cuba
[11:42:06] <Alberto> Venezuela
[11:42:14] <Alberto> and now my dear Argentina is diying from that shit
[11:42:15] <crutchy> if US doesn't change course rapidly the shit is going to hit the global fan
[11:42:26] <Alberto> and Obama feels like socialist
[11:42:27] <Alberto> :/
[11:43:04] <crutchy> anyway i don't trust many republicans either
[11:43:43] <crutchy> prospectacle, you're right 99.999% of politicians are liars
[11:44:22] <crutchy> high quality 5 sigma corruption :p
[11:45:20] <prospectacle> I guess it would be like if in a job interview you were asked a hundred "What's your plan to deal with x" questions. You'd probably make a lot of promises if you really wanted the job, you might even believe them.
[11:45:22] <crutchy> chromas, i reckon i might've figured out a tweak that could make exec more responsive
[11:45:40] <prospectacle> hard to live up to them all though, and that's assuming you were being honest
[11:45:55] <crutchy> the honest ones are the ones that don't make promises
[11:46:09] <crutchy> they are few and far between, but they do exist
[11:46:19] <chromas> crutchy: ePoll() your pipes? :D
[11:47:15] <crutchy> philosophy and policy > promises
[11:47:16] <chromas> we should disallow career politicians and always put them on trial when their term is done
[11:47:28] <crutchy> lol
[11:47:31] <crutchy> chromas++
[11:47:31] <Bender> karma - chromas: 48
[11:47:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, one term in office, one in prison.
[11:47:40] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard++
[11:47:40] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 103
[11:47:53] <chromas> prison--
[11:47:53] <Bender> karma - prison: -1
[11:48:00] <chromas> prison_for_politicians++
[11:48:00] <Bender> karma - prison_for_politicians: 1
[11:49:50] <prospectacle> what about you can get campaign donations when you don't have the job, but once you're elected, no campaign donations at all, but all sitting members get a certain amount of airtime to explain why they think they should be re-elected. All their rival candidates can raise money and take out ads if they want.
[11:50:01] <prospectacle> this way you can't accept any money from anyone once you get the job
[11:51:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> or the fun bit, any campaign money left over after the campaign has to go back
[11:51:44] <crutchy> rand paul is for term limits... i hope he can rally enough support for that. obama will probably veto it, but that will be cannon fodder for 2016
[11:51:49] <chromas> There could be some sort of public service of the media where they get equal masturbatorial airtime and nobody gets to spend anything
[11:51:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> rand paul is a nutter
[11:52:07] <crutchy> what's nutty about term limits?
[11:52:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, sorry, he's the son of a nutter. he's just any other politician.
[11:52:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's easy to talk term limits when there's zero chance of it happening.
[11:53:15] <crutchy> i don't much care for him personally, but anyone who is for term limits in US congress at least has that right
[11:53:22] <prospectacle> chromas, I agree. If we consdier it a job interview, the company (Govt) pays to interview candidates for the job, they don't take out ads saying "hire me, that other guy wants to destroy your company".
[11:53:46] <chromas> prospectacle++ # for agreeing with me :D
[11:53:46] <Bender> karma - prospectacle: 23
[11:54:11] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, problem with that argument is that if it were as easy as you imply everyone would be doing it
[11:54:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, if everyone did it they'd be obliged to put up or shut up.
[11:55:26] <crutchy> tmb, not really. politicians are career liars remember
[11:55:29] <prospectacle> well i gotta sleep. later all. I expect political systems to be solved by the time I get back.
[11:55:35] <crutchy> lol
[11:55:35] <ciri> hahaha
[11:56:00] <crutchy> i hope that doesn't mean your never coming back prospectacle
[11:56:32] <prospectacle> no I just have faith in your ability to figure it out. How hard can it be
[11:56:43] <prospectacle> a day or two should be plenty
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[11:57:43] <chromas> Pick a random guy off the street and give him a term. Let him stay in until his 'rating' goes down or he's caught breaking a law. Then grab another random guy to replace him
[11:58:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, they gotta pick their lies carefully so they don't all like up though or they'd be stuck being caught out blatantly
[11:58:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why we have two parties, so one can always say whatever the hell they want
[11:59:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> and then blame it not passing on the other party
[12:00:18] * chromas says abolish parties!
[12:00:47] <crutchy> that's why i don't reckon paul is lying about his push for term limits. if it were it would be a very consistent and obvious lie, like the "if you like your doctor" thing. it would come back to bite him hard if he ever had to put up
[12:00:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, just require three or more in a race or you can't be supported by your party
[12:01:03] <crutchy> chromas, nooooo! party on forever!
[12:01:22] * crutchy blows up balloons... with lubricant in them
[12:01:38] <chromas> those aren't balloons…and they're used
[12:01:46] <chromas> that's not lube inside
[12:02:32] <crutchy> tastes weird
[12:10:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> politicians--
[12:10:20] <Bender> karma - politicians: -3
[12:10:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:10:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 896
[12:10:33] <crutchy> politicians--
[12:10:33] <Bender> karma - politicians: -4
[12:10:35] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:10:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 897
[12:11:03] <crutchy> prospectacle, tmb figured it out ^
[12:11:15] <crutchy> replace politicians with coffee
[12:11:41] <crutchy> ~x list
[12:11:42] <exec> scripts available:
[12:11:43] <exec> ├─test [enabled]
[12:11:43] <exec> └─gawkish_hordes
[12:11:56] <crutchy> ~x delete-script gawkish_hoardes
[12:11:58] <exec> error: script named "gawkish_hoardes" not found
[12:12:03] <crutchy> oops
[12:12:07] <crutchy> ~x delete-script gawkish_hordes
[12:12:08] <exec> deleted script "gawkish_hordes"
[12:12:20] <crutchy> ~x test
[12:12:29] <crutchy> ~x test list
[12:12:34] <crutchy> fuck
[12:12:36] <crutchy> ~x test code
[12:12:46] <crutchy> ~x open test
[12:12:48] <exec> script "test" opened for editing by crutchy in #soylent
[12:12:52] <crutchy> ~x code
[12:12:54] <exec> [L1] if (strtolower(substr($trailing,0,8))=="~weather") { pm($dest,"^weather ".substr($trailing,9)); }
[12:13:08] <crutchy> ~weather
[12:13:09] <exec> ^weather
[12:13:10] <geotti> [Abidjan, Ivory Coast] Mostly Cloudy. Temp is 27*C but feels like 30*C. SSW wind: 11 kph. Humidity: 84%.
[12:13:16] <crutchy> ¿
[12:13:51] <crutchy> ~x close
[12:13:53] <exec> script "test" closed by crutchy in #soylent
[12:14:35] <chromas> ~weather bewbs
[12:14:36] <exec> ^weather bewbs
[12:14:36] <geotti> Invalid query. Try again.
[12:15:06] <crutchy> no bewbs for you :d
[12:15:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> bewbs++
[12:15:06] <Bender> karma - bewbs: 21
[12:19:32] <crutchy> ~restart
[12:19:34] <exec> successfully saved buckets file (19 kb)
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[12:20:34] <crutchy> it skips through motd quicker now
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[12:55:16] <crutchy> bacon++
[12:55:16] <Bender> karma - bacon: 270
[13:09:15] <chromas> bacon++
[13:09:15] <Bender> karma - bacon: 271
[13:09:29] <chromas> pascal++
[13:09:29] <Bender> karma - pascal: 42
[13:09:46] <chromas> Delphi++
[13:09:46] <Bender> karma - delphi: 27
[13:36:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> !uid
[13:36:47] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4859, owned by erik.erikson
[13:38:44] <mattie_p> bacon++
[13:38:44] <Bender> karma - bacon: 272
[13:38:51] <mattie_p> morning, TheMightyBuzzard
[13:38:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, mattie_p
[13:39:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:39:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 898
[13:39:16] <mattie_p> coffee++ #yes, need more of that
[13:39:16] <Bender> karma - coffee: 899
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[13:42:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should do stuff today but i'm not gonna
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[14:02:05] <CoolHand> hey chanserv says irpg logs can be found at http://logs.sylnt.us , but none there since April! what's up with that! that needs fixed! top priority!! chop chop! ;) j/k.. curious, though
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[14:02:05] <NetCraft> ^ 03#irpg | Logs
[14:02:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> CoolHand, beats the heck out of me. juggs?
[14:04:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like we don't log #irpg anymore
[14:04:34] <CoolHand> yeah, that's what it looked like to me too.. maybe someone can tell chanserv that.. :)
[14:04:50] <CoolHand> (not like it's a huge deal or anything)
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[14:12:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bill and Dave's Electronics Equipment Co. is now Keysight Technologies - http://sylnt.us - used-to-be-somebody
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[14:14:20] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[14:14:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 900
[14:14:35] <Blackmoore> mornin
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[14:19:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:19:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 901
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[14:19:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin
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[16:00:40] * juggs bumbles in
[16:00:56] <nick> afternoon, juggs
[16:01:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> heya, juggs
[16:01:10] <juggs> hi nick. How's things?
[16:01:10] <ciri> yeah, yeah hi HI juggs
[16:01:23] * juggs tips hat to TMB
[16:01:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh hey, juggs, can you tell chanserv that we don't log #irpg anymore? it's still telling folks we do.
[16:02:50] <juggs> ooh - I just put Loggie back in there. Do we want it logged or not?
[16:03:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, well nevermind then
[16:03:03] <paulej72> sure why not
[16:03:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> ^
[16:04:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, all of dev rests pon you for the next few hours. bout to go get my head shrunk again.
[16:04:47] <paulej72> that is good, it has seem to swell to epic porportions lately :P
[16:05:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that's fair
[16:05:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> comes from too much vitamin awesome in my diet
[16:05:56] <juggs> CoolHand, logging's back for #irpg :P
[16:08:43] <nick> juggs: things are ok here, how about for you?
[16:09:09] <juggs> meh, trundling along, nothing special to report
[16:11:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cryptome Reveals How MSFT Gives the FBI &amp; NSA Back Doors to Crack Encryption - http://sylnt.us - insecure-by-design
[16:23:52] <nick> trundling sounds about right
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[16:26:08] <SoyGuest52579> Uh oh, forgot my credentials
[16:26:22] <SoyGuest52579> Oh well, I deserve it for not bothering to reconnect
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[16:31:33] <juggs> could have just asked for a passwd reset to be sent :D
[16:32:44] <nick> some people like to be dramatic
[16:36:16] <swiss> https://www.youtube.com
[16:36:16] <NetCraft> ^ 03&"When Mama Isn't Home" original video. [Freaks (Timmy Trumpet & Savage) - Dad and Toby] - YouTube
[17:18:16] <mechanicjay> It doesn't matter how many times you proofread your article submission -- there is always some horrific grammatical gaff which only manifests itself after you hit the button.
[17:19:03] <juggs> That's a built in function of submit.pl I think. TMB's sly joke on us all :D
[17:20:13] <mechanicjay> hmm, that TMB is a crafty one.
[17:21:33] <mechanicjay> I trust our editors to make me not sound like a complete mook.
[17:24:26] <mechanicjay> submit.mookify()
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[17:37:05] <nick> mechanicjay, this/these?
[18:01:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chinese DIY Inventions and Projects - http://sylnt.us - too-much-time-on-their-hands?
[18:09:22] <mechanicjay> nick: yeah, that's the one!
[18:19:37] <nick> oo and we have "with with" too ;)
[18:20:00] <nick> are you sure you proofread it? ;)
[18:21:51] <mechanicjay> :*(
[18:22:15] <nick> it's ok, i've submitted more than one story and forgot to include TFA
[18:22:44] <nick> which is much worse heh
[18:23:27] <mechanicjay> lol, that is worse!
[18:23:58] <nick> luckily i'm an editor, so i can add it after and no one has to know ;)
[18:51:02] <Leebert> Oh noes! Someone posted something UNPOPULAR! http://soylentnews.org
[18:51:02] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN comment by Leebert (3511)
[18:51:36] <Leebert> I really can't wait until Overrated gets either removed or metamoderated.
[18:52:49] <Leebert> And it IS indeed sad that my hopes for SN to be something of a bastion from the /. (-1, Disagree) trend is not just rapidly fading, but essentially gone
[18:55:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> Leebert, don't worry your pretty lil head over it. we're having a look at regular moderation either this week or next week and deciding some stuff.
[18:56:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally, i'm thinking pull all downmoderation except spam and include a note that anything non-spam getting moderated such will lose mod powah forever
[18:57:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> not a good solution by itself but it'll be good prep for the rest of the moderation changes.
[18:59:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe move the current downmods to neutral +0 mods and let you tweak their display from your comments settings page
[19:00:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> over n underrated need to go though
[19:02:58] <Leebert> I'm not worried. I'm hating humanity in general. :)
[19:03:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> Oh, that's fine then. Perfectly natural after election day.
[19:03:41] <Leebert> But it's good to hear that you're thinking about it. I do generally trust you guys. It's just that I had high hopes for the community in general.
[19:04:01] <Leebert> I do have to keep reminding myself that it's a self-selecting collection of curmudgeons. :)
[19:04:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> would really help if we had more staff. devs in particular.
[19:04:39] <mythterj> you could just add -1 disagree, and +1 agree, and treat them as an instant poll, but not let them affect moderation at all. Store them somewhere else. Kind of like coffee++
[19:05:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> I was thinking a +0 Disagree +0 Agree
[19:05:06] <Leebert> Indeed; I would volunteer but unfortunately I would just be leading people on. I just don't have the time.
[19:05:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, lot of that going around. not having the time i mean.
[19:05:29] <Leebert> That's an interesting thought. I don't know if it would work, though.
[19:05:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> great thing about being us, we can always change if it don't work.
[19:06:24] <Leebert> Well, if I haven't thanked you recently, I thank you for putting the time and energy into it.
[19:06:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheers
[19:06:40] <Leebert> Even if I HAVE thanked you recently, why not do it again, eh? :)
[19:07:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> with pj being busy sysadmining and having a regular job, that mostly leaves me as the dev team aside from his few days a month of free time.
[19:07:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> so if you know any perl coders... hint hint
[19:07:54] <Leebert> I know Python people. :)
[19:08:05] <Leebert> And Ruby on Rails hipsters.
[19:08:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> yerg
[19:08:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> python people we could prolly live with but ruby's right out.
[19:09:04] <Leebert> The one person I'm thinking about, a co-worker, could not for the life of him understand why I was foaming at the mouth over him using fonts.google.com on an internal log managment web interfacey thing.
[19:09:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> it'd be kinda fun messing with python folks what with their whitespace fetishes
[19:09:38] <Leebert> heh. Reminds me of my FORTRAN-77 and COBOL days.
[19:11:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> is it nap thirty yet?
[19:13:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, close enough
[19:13:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> nap++
[19:13:38] <Bender> karma - nap: 7
[19:22:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Mathematics Behind Hipsters - http://sylnt.us - uncool-before-it-was-cool
[19:36:48] <Leebert> It was Starbucks time, actually. What is it that you guys say?
[19:36:54] <Leebert> tea++?
[19:37:02] <Blackmoore> :P
[19:37:09] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[19:37:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 902
[19:37:11] <juggs> tea++
[19:37:11] <Bender> karma - tea: 194
[19:37:26] <Blackmoore> stomps off to break room for the worse coffee ever.
[19:37:42] <Blackmoore> (the tea here is also bad)
[19:37:42] <Leebert> Our break room used to have M&M's.
[19:37:51] <Leebert> They replaced them with trail mix.
[19:37:58] <Leebert> I have refused to work ever since.
[19:38:09] <Blackmoore> petition for bacon
[19:38:23] <Blackmoore> no pig left behind
[19:42:22] <Leebert> Eh, I'm not in that office anymore anyway. That was across the street.
[19:42:42] <Leebert> I'm now in the dungeon, where we only have vending machines. But at least the vending machines have M&M's.
[19:43:03] <Leebert> And, of course there are convenience stores around. And the gift shop.
[19:43:13] <Leebert> Man. Now I want M&Ms.
[19:51:21] <Blackmoore> and i want bacon.
[19:51:24] <Blackmoore> ;/
[20:34:45] <Blackmoore> soft prezel sticks?! ok, thats a win
[20:52:37] <crutchy> coffee++
[20:52:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 903
[20:56:01] <matt_> coffee++
[20:56:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 904
[20:56:04] <matt_> crutchy, hi!
[20:56:22] <crutchy> g'day matt_
[20:56:22] <ciri> yeah, yeah hi HI crutchy
[20:56:28] <crutchy> hows tricks?
[20:56:57] <matt_> reasonable. still recovering from wall-to-wall cable news election coverage.
[21:01:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UN Takeover of Internet Postponed Indefinitely - http://sylnt.us - trying-to-decide-who-represents-the-lesser-evil
[21:03:03] * chromas offers matt_ some Circlejerky
[21:04:25] <crutchy> democrat policies are stupid, but a lot of republicans are democrats pretending to care about fiscal conservativeness
[21:04:39] <crutchy> will be interesting to see if anything changes at all
[21:05:24] <crutchy> i hope they don't focus their agenda on bashing gays and religious minorities
[21:05:31] <chromas> republican policies are also stupid; there should be a camp somewhere we can concentrate them all together
[21:05:42] <chromas> politicians--
[21:05:42] <Bender> karma - politicians: -5
[21:05:47] <chromas> political+parties--
[21:05:51] <chromas> political_parties--
[21:05:51] <Bender> karma - political_parties: -1
[21:06:00] <crutchy> i only care about economic policies... as in the government getting out of the way and letting markets work
[21:06:21] <chromas> they want the government in the way, just for different agendas
[21:06:22] <crutchy> neither dems or repubs are very good at liberty and freedom
[21:06:28] <crutchy> nod nod
[21:07:08] <crutchy> only reason why i sway repubs is because the libertarians have managed to infiltrate that party
[21:07:11] <chromas> at least maybe now they'll do something besides just saying "no" to anything the dems say
[21:07:43] <crutchy> chromas, if you look at the votes you'll find that the dems have been the party of no
[21:07:59] <crutchy> or specifically harry reid, who continuously blocked votes in the senate
[21:08:17] <crutchy> the house was passing legislation quite regularly
[21:08:32] <crutchy> the senate often didn't even show up for work :/
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[21:09:15] <chromas> s/the dems/Obama/
[21:09:15] <sedctl> <chromas> at least maybe now they'll do something besides just saying "no" to anything Obama say
[21:09:39] <chromas> :( "Walla Walla County is poised to become the fourth county in Washington state to ban recreational marijuana operations following a vote Monday by county commissioners."
[21:10:25] <chromas> "You can smoke it, you just can't obtain it"
[21:10:53] <crutchy> yeah i think the government should get out of the way of those things too
[21:11:23] <crutchy> what people do to their own bodies is their business, as long as they don't hurt anyone else
[21:12:10] <crutchy> well marajuana can and does hurt families, but its up to local communities to help there i think. federal government swat vans aren't the answer
[21:13:19] <chromas> well and besides that, well already voted to make it smokeable, then they're like "well, despite the statistics we're seeing after legalizing, fuck you!"
[21:13:28] <chromas> s/ll//2
[21:13:28] <sedctl> <chromas> well and besides that, we already voted to make it smokeable, then they're like "well, despite the statistics we're seeing after legalizing, fuck you!"
[21:13:40] <crutchy> and i wouldn't be surprised at all if the repubs were all for that
[21:13:50] <crutchy> i hate that part of the republican platform
[21:14:25] <chromas> I can't say I've ever heard of marijuana hurting familes; maybe if a high dude fell asleep and caused a theriouth traffic jam
[21:14:30] <crutchy> marajuana, abortion, religion, what you eat, how you choose to educate your kids, etc should be none of the governments business
[21:14:41] <crutchy> it can hurt financially
[21:15:02] <chromas> how expensive is pot down there?
[21:15:10] <crutchy> especially in poor communities, where families live pay to pay and struggle just to buy food
[21:15:30] <crutchy> prolly no more expensive than anywhere else, but its not free
[21:15:58] <chromas> I guess it makes a person okay to be bored or whatever crappy spot in life they're stuck in
[21:16:06] <chromas> demotivation--
[21:16:06] <Bender> karma - demotivation: -1
[21:16:18] <crutchy> it can also lead to family violence if abused
[21:16:27] <crutchy> marajuana is great when your high
[21:16:35] <crutchy> but when you come down is different
[21:16:53] <crutchy> and if you can't afford the next high, thats where problems start
[21:16:53] <chromas> Don't think I've ever heard of anyone getting violent while high on the mari-j-uana
[21:17:01] <crutchy> not when high
[21:17:03] <chromas> though I guess some people are allergic
[21:17:05] <crutchy> afterwards
[21:17:16] <chromas> that's the part when you fall asleep
[21:17:42] <crutchy> what happens when you wake up after?
[21:18:49] <chromas> You go to work or whatever
[21:19:00] <crutchy> i guess the other problem that happens (my sister in law's partner is a pot smoker) is that when someone's high they often don't give a shit about their responsibilities
[21:19:21] <crutchy> that can cause issues too
[21:19:27] <crutchy> esp when little kids are involved
[21:19:45] <chromas> Yeah; I'd say that's really the worst part—abdication
[21:20:00] <crutchy> pot is probably ok for single people having a good time though i guess
[21:20:54] <crutchy> and pot for medical uses is definitely a good thing
[21:21:15] <crutchy> aw shit
[21:21:21] <crutchy> better get to workipoos
[21:21:25] <chromas> :(
[21:21:27] <crutchy> cya dude o/
[21:21:30] <chromas> see ya, sir
[21:21:43] <chromas> ~g'day crutchy going to workipoos
[21:21:44] * exec insatiably slides a coffee++ mug of coffee to crutchy going to workipoos
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[22:20:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Marijuana Legalized in Oregon, Alaska and Washington D.C. - http://sylnt.us - it's-the-law
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