#Soylent | Logs for 2014-10-26
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[23:20:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intonations in Sign Language - http://sylnt.us - talk-to-the-hands
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[22:08:42] <Bytram> unfortunately, I gtg... wish I could stay to chat!
[22:08:27] <Bytram> actually, it *is* that bad: "Clifford Davis reports that seven out of 10 young people between the ages of 17 and 24 are ineligible to become soldiers primarily due to three issues: obesity or health problems; lack of a high school education; and criminal histories."
[21:54:14] <chromas> and the people of walmart
[21:54:08] <chromas> All the udnerage and elderly plus disabled people
[21:53:52] <chromas> That doesn't seem so bad
[21:51:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Army says Only 30% of Americans Qualified to Join - http://sylnt.us - new-military-overlords
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[21:32:52] <chromas> http://threatpost.com
[21:31:28] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews Friend/Foe System
[21:31:27] <Bytram> http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:42] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4821, owned by DarthFooobar
[21:29:42] <Bytram> !uid
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[21:17:10] <Bytram> done.
[21:15:30] <Bytram> ima gonna fix it.
[21:15:09] <Bytram> Independent Computer Technologies
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[21:14:51] <Azrael> :D
[21:14:05] <Bytram> Azrael: thanks for that! Would it be *that* hard for them to spell that out somewhere?
[21:13:46] <Azrael> Information & Communication Technology
[21:13:34] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3ICT: A short Abbv for wichita K.S... ICT = Airport abbv ICT = Short for wichita
[21:13:32] <Bytram> ~define ICT
[21:12:59] <NetCraft> ^ 03Frontiers in ICT | About the Journal
[21:12:58] <Bytram> http://www.frontiersin.org
[21:11:42] <Bytram> yeah, but what *is* ICT?
[21:11:30] <NetCraft> ^ 03Frontiers in ICT
[21:11:28] <Bytram> http://www.frontiersin.org
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[21:09:38] <exec> no polls registered
[21:09:37] <Bytram> ~vote list
[21:09:19] <exec> http://sylnt.us
[21:09:19] <Bytram> ~vote help
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[21:09:13] <exec> http://sylnt.us
[21:09:12] <Bytram> ~vote ?
[21:09:07] <exec> http://sylnt.us
[21:09:06] <Bytram> ~vote
[21:08:33] <Bytram> I appreciate the kudos, but more like I recognized that I was like "Dennis the Menace" and had a knack for things breaking in my vicinity, so decided to get paid to do it! =)
[21:07:47] <Bender> karma - bytram: 24
[21:07:47] <crutchy> Bytram++ # the QA man!
[21:07:43] <Bytram> hope your day goes well!!
[21:07:36] <crutchy> nah its good :D
[21:07:30] <crutchy> anyways better go to workipoos. catch ya later
[21:07:28] * Bytram spent way too much time in test/QA ... can't NOT notice such things. Sorry!
[21:07:13] <crutchy> yeah the doc sux. gotta fix that
[21:07:03] <Bytram> nod nod
[21:06:54] <crutchy> but will eventually add vote configurations for stuff like that so that you can set it up how you want
[21:06:52] <Bytram> oh. I get it *now*, but it wasn't clear to me 'til you 'splained it. :/
[21:06:17] <crutchy> difficult to vote more than once was referring to ballot stuffing
[21:05:45] <Bytram> crutchy: btw, your voting tool says in the objectives: "difficult to vote more than once" but then you later have "user may vote any number of times, but only one vote is registered per NickServ account "
[21:04:47] <Bytram> HTTP_daemon vs HTTPDaemon
[21:04:02] <Bytram> CamelCaseWithInitialCaps has problems when one of the terms is normally ALLCAPS
[21:03:09] <Bytram> Especially when there are capitalized terms in the name
[21:03:01] <crutchy> tama would recommend it as a band name no doubt
[21:02:44] <crutchy> "Frontier Sin" sounds more trendy
[21:02:35] <Bytram> yup... I_prefer_to_use_undescores_too.
[21:02:07] <crutchy> i prefer_to_use_something_like_this, but now that I think of it i do use camel case for delphi programming (just cos it's the "Borland Way")
[21:01:07] <Bytram> does make a bit of a difference.
[21:01:07] <crutchy> now that's a name that could sell stuff ;d
[21:00:49] <Bytram> Is that ExpertSexChange or ExpertsExchange ??
[21:00:35] <Bytram> expertsexchange.com
[21:00:18] <crutchy> tbh, i find camel case distracting
[20:59:52] <NetCraft> ^ 03Frontiers in ICT
[20:59:49] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN article 03 Frontiers Launches New Open-Access Journal: Frontiers in ICT. 04(4 comments)
[20:59:03] <Bytram> so, is that "Frontiers In" or "Frontier Sin" ?? ;)
[20:58:47] <Bytram> which links to: http://www.frontiersin.org
[20:58:31] <Bytram> this story is on the main page: http://soylentnews.org
[20:58:14] <Bytram> unrelated, but curious as to your thoughts... I noticed again that capitalization in the names of things makes all the difference...
[20:57:53] <crutchy> documentation/help for it kinda sucks atm
[20:57:23] <crutchy> http://sylnt.us
[20:57:01] * Bytram plans to vote early and often
[20:56:53] <crutchy> still couple of things on the todo list for it, but its functional
[20:56:48] <Bytram> yeah?
[20:56:39] <crutchy> gots ourselves a little voting scripty now
[20:56:25] <Bytram> it's a little later in the day up this way =)
[20:56:13] <exec> Sunday, 26 October 2014 @ 4:56 pm EDT - Boston, MA
[20:56:12] <Bytram> ~time boston
[20:56:04] <crutchy> <- jealous
[20:55:56] <crutchy> ooh
[20:55:55] <Bytram> nod nod
[20:55:49] <crutchy> contemplating walking to work, but weather is a bit unstable
[20:55:47] <Bytram> just finished a nice dinner of spaghetti and will soon be ready for a nap!
[20:55:24] <exec> Monday, 27 October 2014 @ 7:55 am GMT+11 - Traralgon VIC, Australia
[20:55:22] <Bytram> ~time crutchy
[20:55:21] <crutchy> how bout yourself?
[20:55:18] <Bytram> nod nod
[20:55:13] <crutchy> on my first coffee for the day
[20:55:10] <Bytram> glad to "hear" it!
[20:55:01] <crutchy> not too bad thanks Bytram
[20:54:41] <exec> Weather for Boston, MA - currently 56°F / 13°C, scattered clouds, wind N at 4 mph, humidity 57% - Sunday showers (43°F-55°F / 6°C-13°C), Monday clear (43°F-55°F / 6°C-13°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (55°F-63°F / 13°C-17°C), Wednesday chance of rain (50°F-72°F / 10°C-22°C) - source: Google
[20:54:40] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[20:54:30] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC, Australia - currently 56°F / 13°C, rain, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 99% - Monday rain (45°F-61°F / 7°C-16°C), Tuesday chance of rain (46°F-61°F / 8°C-16°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (46°F-77°F / 8°C-25°C), Thursday partly cloudy (43°F-77°F / 6°C-25°C) - source: Google
[20:54:29] <Bytram> ~weather crutchy
[20:54:25] <Bytram> crutchy: hey there! how's things down under?
[20:54:16] <Bytram> back
[20:51:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 877
[20:51:51] <crutchy> coffee++
[20:40:29] <Bytram> afk back in a few
[20:39:32] <Bender> karma - emacs: 4
[20:39:32] <JamesNZ> emacs++
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[20:32:55] <Bytram> nod nod; much better that way than the other way around!
[20:32:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we haven't touched that bug yet cause it's not a big deal if they get to keep their points too long.
[20:31:18] * Bytram restored settings to UTC with DST=OFF
[20:30:18] <Bytram> just logging data for a bug that I'd previously submitted on expiration of mod points.
[20:29:48] <Bytram> nodnod
[20:29:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> sorry got texts, irc, and two other communication channels all buggin me at once.
[20:29:36] <Bytram> now I set it to "Manual (On)" and... now it shows they expire at "21:10"
[20:28:28] <Bytram> and it stills says that they expire at "20:10"
[20:28:12] <Bytram> I just change DST to be "Automatic"...
[20:27:15] <Bytram> btw, those settings were for: "Time Zone / Daylight Savings Time"
[20:26:31] <Bytram> so, my mod points should have expired a while ago, but there are still showing as being available.
[20:25:56] <Bytram> I have my acct set up for "Universal Time Coordinated" "Manual (Off)"
[20:25:26] <Bytram> I hvae mod points that expire at 2014-10-26 20:10
[20:25:06] <Bytram> I was checking something having to do with when mod points expire...
[20:24:03] <Sis> 22:23 Pm.
[20:23:13] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 26 October 2014, 8:23 pm
[20:23:12] <Bytram> ~time x
[20:20:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Transplant Surgeons Use Heart that Stopped Beating - http://sylnt.us - operating-during-a-storm
[20:18:16] <Bytram> brb
[20:17:37] <exec> Weather for Boston, MA - currently 57°F / 14°C, scattered clouds, wind NW at 9 mph, humidity 56% - Sunday showers (43°F-55°F / 6°C-13°C), Monday clear (43°F-55°F / 6°C-13°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (55°F-63°F / 13°C-17°C), Wednesday chance of rain (50°F-72°F / 10°C-22°C) - source: Google
[20:17:36] <Bytram> ~weather boston
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[20:13:03] <Bytram> if you could work that in, I'd be *much* obliged.
[20:12:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> not too hard. that's part of the filtering i'll be working on anyway i think.
[20:12:04] <Bytram> how hard would it be to do "s/<br>[[:space:]]*<br>/<p>/g" on it so that it's at least consistent for us editors?
[20:11:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> sometimes you want something to only be one line down, then you use a br. sometimes you want an empty line between things, then you should get a <p> tag.
[20:11:17] <Bytram> I was kinda thinking along those lines.
[20:11:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, there's a reason for that. plain old text vs html
[20:10:37] <Bytram> sometimes, paragraphs of text are marked with "<br><br>" or "<br> <br>" (notice the space in the middle) and others as "<p>...</p>"
[20:09:59] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: while you're at it, one of the things that has been a bit of a challenge is the way submissions get processed before they get into the submissions queue.
[20:08:51] <Bytram> back.
[20:08:14] <Bytram> dinner should be ready; back in a couple minutes
[20:07:54] * Bytram thinks you have an interesting concept of the term "easy"
[20:07:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> generally it's easy to tell what they'll be
[20:07:02] <Bytram> okaaaaay.
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[20:06:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, nah i'm going to be defaulting to allowing anything and only stripping out the things that break.
[20:06:20] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4821, owned by DarthFooobar
[20:06:20] <Bytram> !uid
[20:06:17] <Bytram> huh? I thought we were up in 970+ area last I looked!
[20:05:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 876
[20:05:59] <Bytram> coffee++
[20:05:56] <Bytram> oh, almost forgot...
[20:05:46] <Bytram> Sis: hey there!
[20:05:39] <Bytram> I was thinking more like stuff I can create for you to use to see if it *is* working as you expect.
[20:05:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> yo
[20:05:24] <ciri> hello, whats up Sis
[20:05:23] <Sis> Hello there.
[20:05:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, not until I've got them where i think they're working.
[20:04:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's all in Data.pm. strip_blah does the work and what work each strip does is defined up above
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[20:04:01] <Bytram> would it help if you had a suite of things to throw at it?
[20:03:40] <Bytram> oh, goody.
[20:03:31] <Bytram> =)
[20:03:28] <Bytram> yeah, what you said!
[20:03:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> different ones for subject of a comment vs subject of a story/sub
[20:03:21] <Bytram> it's pretty much a black box to me as to *what* gets filtered *where* and when in the comment/story/journal preview/submit process.
[20:03:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, gotta have different filters for preview vs what goes back into the edit box of a preview. preview and submitted render have to match exactly
[20:02:24] <Bytram> it's quite the beast.
[20:02:19] <Bytram> nod nod
[20:02:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno really. going to take a LOT of filter building, testing, reworking, retesting to get everything right.
[20:02:12] <Bytram> I'd seen some cases where "&" chars were being removed either on preview or submit; coulnd't make out exactly which.
[20:01:32] <Bytram> not the weather, I meant that you didn't think there'd be much difference?
[20:01:09] <Bytram> huh. really?
[20:01:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ya, lil warm for october.
[20:00:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> dev shouldn't be much better than live right now but i'm gonna be putting a lot of time into filters next week and getting them right.
[20:00:50] <Bytram> wow! that's hot!
[20:00:36] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK - currently 86°F / 30°C, clear, wind S at 21 mph, humidity 43% - Sunday clear (63°F-88°F / 17°C-31°C), Monday chance of storm (54°F-82°F / 12°C-28°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (45°F-72°F / 7°C-22°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (48°F-72°F / 9°C-22°C) - source: Google
[20:00:35] <Bytram> ~weather TheMightyBuzzard
[20:00:28] <Bytram> not exhaustive testing, by any means, but more a proff-of-not-being-terribly-borked
[20:00:12] <Bytram> I saw his e-mail after I tried a few things on dev and they seemed to be okay
[19:59:47] <Bytram> great!
[19:59:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, that's already solved for comments by the new filter in the diacritics pull request
[19:58:55] <Bytram> did you get the email from mrcoolbp??
[19:58:47] <Bytram> was hoping I'd find you here...
[19:58:32] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: g'day!
[19:58:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> heya, Bytram
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[19:55:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 875
[19:55:49] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[19:50:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 876
[19:50:21] <crutchy> coffee++
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[19:01:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Study says Roman Gladiators were Mostly Vegetarian - http://sylnt.us
[18:50:32] <Bender> karma - tmux: 6
[18:50:32] <ar> tmux++
[18:50:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 875
[18:50:30] <ar> coffee--
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[18:23:02] <SirFinkus> $5 if you don't want to compile it, or want icloud support
[18:22:37] <SirFinkus> native, active developer, open source
[18:20:14] <NetCraft> ^ 03Codeux/Textual · GitHub
[18:20:13] <SirFinkus> https://github.com
[18:18:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause it's actively developed unlike any of the others?
[18:18:22] <SirFinkus> why hexchat geotti ?
[17:30:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NSA-Approved Samsung Knox Stores PIN in Cleartext - http://sylnt.us - but-for-whose-security?
[17:28:58] <Bender> karma - tmux: 5
[17:28:58] <geotti> tmux++
[17:28:49] <Bender> karma - fish: 10
[17:28:49] <geotti> fish++
[17:14:44] <Bender> karma - os_x: 1
[17:14:44] <geotti> os_x++ for letting me run X11 next to aqua
[17:12:55] <geotti> finding out that what you've been trying to build for the last couple of hours is already available as a homebrew formula... priceless.
[16:58:58] * geotti feels all alone in this vast channel
[16:50:11] <geotti> at least the tools there work
[16:49:52] * geotti looks around for places to retrain as a woodworker
[16:49:12] <Bender> karma - manually_editing_makefiles_like_its_99: -1
[16:49:12] <geotti> manually_editing_makefiles_like_its_99--
[16:44:49] <geotti> "error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory" seriously? pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0 finds it just fine, foo!
[16:44:01] <Bender> karma - building_hexchat_on_os_x: -1
[16:44:01] <geotti> building_hexchat_on_os_x--
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[16:01:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Star Escapes Black Hole Almost Unharmed - http://sylnt.us - couldn't-eat-a-whole-one
[15:54:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, definitely going fishing tuesday
[15:54:13] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK - currently 77°F / 25°C, clear, wind SW at 8 mph, humidity 57% - Sunday clear (63°F-88°F / 17°C-31°C), Monday chance of storm (54°F-82°F / 12°C-28°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (45°F-72°F / 7°C-22°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (48°F-72°F / 9°C-22°C) - source: Google
[15:54:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[15:53:59] <Bender> karma - geotti: 2
[15:53:59] <chromas> geotti++ # the weather channel
[15:36:46] <geotti> that's how it sounds
[15:36:37] <Bender> karma - cheap_asics: 1
[15:36:36] <geotti> cheap_asics++
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[15:33:04] <ar> http://semiaccurate.com
[15:32:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 876
[15:32:28] <geotti> coffee-- for making me all jiggly
[15:32:09] <Bender> karma - tea_with_honey: 1
[15:32:09] <geotti> tea_with_honey++
[15:31:20] <geotti> that sounds like something to add to my todo list
[15:30:50] <ar> i have my own iptables+git firewall script
[15:30:28] <geotti> fritz!box++ for being easy to use and powerful
[15:27:59] <ar> hm
[15:27:16] <Bender> karma - openwrt: 1
[15:27:16] <geotti> openwrt++ for bein teh siht!
[15:27:05] <Bender> karma - ddwrt: -1
[15:27:05] <geotti> ddwrt-- for being open core
[15:23:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. i generally prefer local storage on my desktop and set up nfs/smb/streaming/etc... from it. this needs to change but not today.
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[15:22:30] <ar> and it has quad-port intel NIC
[15:22:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads
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[15:21:50] <ar> but the ram is used by zfs
[15:21:46] <ar> my current nas/router/local gentoo mirror is an i7-3770t w/ 16G of ram.
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[15:21:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine're mostly bluebox linksys or a couple of newer buffalo ones. dd-wrt is generally good enough for me for a router, don't need an entire box.
[15:20:19] <ar> it's fast enought for self-hosting gentoo
[15:19:53] <ar> or something like that
[15:19:47] <ar> my old router is a celeron g550
[15:19:36] <ar> hm
[15:08:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should build myself an actual worth having server one of these days but i keep upgrading my desktop and giving the servers hand-me-downs instead
[15:08:09] <chromas> but that means you're a vegetable, so I'll be stopping by to pick up all those computers and stuff you don't need any more
[15:07:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> pigs eat vegetables, bacon comes from pigs, bacon is a vegetable. QED
[15:06:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> bacon's the only vegetable worth eating.
[15:06:20] <chromas> intel celery
[15:06:13] <chromas> vegetables
[15:05:50] <Bender> karma - celeron: -1
[15:05:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> celeron--
[15:05:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell, two of em have celerons
[15:04:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i could set up one of the boxes as a package distribution server but nothing but my desktop has reasonable processing capacity.
[15:04:06] <ar> well, they're used by distcc
[15:03:45] <chromas> those extra cores don't count then, re compiling
[15:03:29] <ar> chromas: i tend to build binpackages on the desktop for the rest of them
[15:03:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> i only have six at the moment and i might be using them encoding some h264 for network streaming or playing a game or what not
[15:03:08] <chromas> ar: you have all of them compiling your updates at once for each other?
[15:02:36] <chromas> only thing I don't like about PA right now is that whenever some program decides it needs full volume it turns up the master volume too
[15:02:29] <ar> (old laptop (2+HT), new laptop (2+HT), NAS/router (4+HT), old router (2), desktop (8))
[15:01:36] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: distcc does the job
[15:01:27] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: i have more x86_64 cores than i can count on my fingers, including feet
[15:01:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod but that'd break pulseaudio which does not entirely suck as a top level audio system.
[15:01:17] <chromas> No epoch. Subsentient get it in here man!
[15:00:58] <chromas> the aur has openrc & sysvinit
[15:00:57] <Bender> karma - slackware: 1
[15:00:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> slackware++
[15:00:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ar, gentoo's fine for some but I don't have the time to spare recompiling every time a package is updated.
[14:59:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i'd prefer little things like pulseaudio not be fucking tied to one specific init system
[14:58:56] <chromas> except for three or so
[14:58:53] <Bender> karma - gentoo: 1
[14:58:53] <ar> gentoo++ # no systemd here!
[14:58:47] <ar> systemd+-
[14:58:46] <chromas> they all have systemd
[14:58:38] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 59
[14:58:38] <ar> archlinux-- # for systemd
[14:58:27] <Bender> karma - coffee: 877
[14:58:27] <ar> coffee--
[14:58:02] <chromas> the guy's trying to remove dbus and stuff from it. I think the first thing though is to just separate all the packages that were pulled in
[14:56:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> enough so we can fucking well drop systemd
[14:56:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, really needs lots n lots of devs
[14:56:11] <chromas> needs moar devs though
[14:55:45] <chromas> haven't checked for updates though
[14:55:36] <chromas> been there a couple weeks
[14:55:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, uselessd is starting to show up in the AUR
[14:54:38] <Bender> karma - systemd: -16
[14:54:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> systemd--
[14:54:35] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 60
[14:54:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> archlinux++
[14:51:30] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 59
[14:51:30] <chromas> archlinux++
[14:47:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 878
[14:47:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:42:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> typing in my password takes longer than the entire rest of the boot process. i dig that.
[14:39:52] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v TheMightyBuzzard] by juggler
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[14:37:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> back after reboot. kernel upgrade.
[14:35:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> more beer last night means less coffee today
[14:34:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i may need to switch to tea this morning for hydration purposes even if it means less caffeine
[14:33:38] <Bender> karma - tea: 112
[14:33:38] <ar> tea++
[14:33:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 877
[14:33:36] <ar> coffee--
[14:31:01] <Bender> karma - smoke: -1
[14:31:01] <chromas> smoke--
[14:30:55] * chromas went for a 40-minute walk with the stove on :(
[14:30:27] <Bender> karma - perl: 5
[14:30:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> perl++
[14:30:24] <Bender> karma - scripting: 4
[14:30:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> scripting++
[14:30:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researcher Finds Tor Exit Node Adding Malware to Binaries - http://sylnt.us - some-layers-are-rotten
[14:30:05] <Bender> karma - scripting: 3
[14:30:05] <chromas> scripting++
[14:29:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> gratuitous scripting excuse
[14:29:48] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: if there's three or so together then emit 50
[14:29:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> did just a minute ago. think i'm going to rewrite it to count the number of times in the past <blah> timespan and only kick in if it's exceeded.
[14:28:38] <chromas> Shouldn't you only decrement coffee when you spill it or stream it out later?
[14:27:49] <ar> which is why you should turn off yours today
[14:27:42] <ar> i also turned off my script yesterday
[14:26:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but that was just a gag to test scripting that i turned off
[14:26:33] <ar> :p
[14:26:30] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: you were the one who started it, with scripted "coffee++" after every "coffee--" by me
[14:25:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ar, arms race, yo. don't start one, won't be one.
[14:25:22] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: it's totally unfair
[14:25:06] <paulej72> well,we know where ef went
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[14:22:27] <Ethanol-fueled> MOMMMMMY!!!!
[14:22:02] <Ethanol-fueled> her oily areolae are greasey to the touch.
[14:21:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> she's wicked hot holding a 50cal rifle is all i know
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[14:21:07] <Ethanol-fueled> they are a greyish color, and pink when excited.
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[14:20:49] <Ethanol-fueled> teh mythbuster chick likes her nipples bitten.
[14:20:25] <NetCraft> ^ 03Mythbusters lead balloon - YouTube
[14:20:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[14:19:43] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll prolly pass out in a few and wake up high later.
[14:19:38] <Bender> karma - mythbusters: 1
[14:19:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> mythbusters++
[14:19:29] <paulej72> a lead balloon will float
[14:19:23] <Ethanol-fueled> I know buzzard.
[14:19:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'too early in the morning to be intoxicated, Ethanol-fueled
[14:18:42] <Ethanol-fueled> UH G so high my head is made of lead
[14:18:18] <Ethanol-fueled> some soms of bitches think coffee is bad.
[14:17:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice, bender finally understood something unicode
[14:17:17] <Bender> for great justice, because zoot is very naughty and bad, €£¥
[14:17:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> !more
[14:17:13] <Bender> reasons for karma up are: get some into mrcoolbp ASAP, good to the last drop, does it need an octothorpe?, for great justice!, for even moar justice!, is the holiness of grail-shaped beacons, to spice it up in here, I was ironically upmodding in the face of the downmodders despite not drinking coffee BEFORE it was cool, makes a good pinger, for provocation :p, for antagonism, - 1 more
[14:17:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> !whyup coffee
[14:17:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 878
[14:17:02] <paulej72> coffee++ # €£¥
[14:16:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> you stick to manual line by line, so will i.
[14:15:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> ar, fair's fair. you either scripted a loop or pasted a sick amount of coffee--s yesterday.
[14:14:15] <Bender> karma - clocks: 1
[14:14:15] <geotti> clocks++
[14:14:10] <geotti> as do clocks
[14:13:25] <geotti> hey, fat chicks need love too
[14:11:55] <SedBot9000> <geotti> frying to
[14:11:55] <geotti> s/tring/frying/
[14:11:43] <geotti> tring to
[14:11:31] <geotti> paulej72: true, i was putting it in Ethanol-fueled's terms
[14:10:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> like a fat chick neighbor
[14:10:39] <paulej72> techinically the milky way is next door as we are in it and it is HUGE
[14:09:58] <ar> huh
[14:09:56] <Bender> karma - coffee: 877
[14:09:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:09:55] <Bender> karma - coffee: 876
[14:09:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:09:53] <Bender> karma - ar: 6
[14:09:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> ar-- #coffee hater
[14:09:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 875
[14:09:50] <ar> coffee--
[14:09:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 876
[14:09:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:09:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 875
[14:09:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:09:44] <Bender> karma - ar: 7
[14:09:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> ar-- #coffee hater
[14:09:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 874
[14:09:40] <ar> coffee--
[14:08:29] <geotti> Ethanol-fueled: try using a vaporizer. You'll get so high, you'll think the milky way is next door
[14:07:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> just tryin to save ya some effort there
[14:07:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> yer in the milky way right now. you could blow chunks on your shoes and it'd be in the milky way.
[14:06:51] <Ethanol-fueled> I have a fat nug of Sour Diesel weed
[14:06:28] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm going to get SO HIGH that my mind will blow chunks into teh MILKY WAY'
[14:05:25] <Ethanol-fueled> she can fit three at once, lol
[14:05:09] <Ethanol-fueled> ciri likes dicks in her anus.
[14:04:59] <geotti> you seem to have my sense of humor
[14:04:46] <geotti> true, ciri
[14:04:33] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[14:04:32] <geotti> lol
[14:04:25] <Bender> Added quote 256
[14:04:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab Ethanol-fueled
[14:04:17] <Bender> karma - faggots: 1
[14:04:17] <Ethanol-fueled> faggots++
[14:04:07] <Bender> karma - google: -6
[14:04:07] <geotti> google--
[14:04:05] <Bender> karma - google: -5
[14:04:05] <geotti> google--
[14:04:03] <Bender> karma - google: -4
[14:04:03] <geotti> google--
[14:04:02] <geotti> WTF, google?
[14:03:58] <geotti> "undefined macro AS_AC_EXPAND" did yo mean undefined matrix?
[14:03:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> could end the "tag" with a colon
[14:03:48] <Bender> karma - google: -3
[14:03:48] <geotti> google--
[14:03:32] <Ethanol-fueled> I WANNA GO....COON BASHIN'!
[14:02:40] <Ethanol-fueled> racist rock bands are awesome
[14:01:39] <paulej72> no we do as nicks have spaces
[14:01:27] <Ethanol-fueled> DOWN TO THE GROUND
[14:01:22] <Ethanol-fueled> BEAT RODNEY DOWN
[14:01:16] <geotti> weed's the best
[14:01:07] <Ethanol-fueled> weed rocks!
[14:01:02] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahahahhaa
[14:00:53] <paulej72> wonder if we need the { }
[13:59:57] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahahahaaha
[13:59:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> afk hunting up breakfast
[13:59:50] <NetCraft> ^ 03Vaginal Jesus - Slave Run Away Beat Rodney Down - YouTube
[13:59:49] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.youtube.com
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[13:59:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> quicker to type at least
[13:58:38] <paulej72> might be a good idea
[13:57:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh hey, i think i can swap matching by <user> tag to matching by @{nick/#uid} pretty easy if you prefer.
[13:55:22] <paulej72> sure
[13:55:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll prolly just work today and skip out tuesday to make up for it.
[13:54:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it nixed fishing but overall i call it a win
[13:54:15] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: that is a good thing right
[13:53:48] <paulej72> ėęēêèéë
[13:53:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> stayed out entirely too late drinking last night
[13:52:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[13:52:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. not sure if that's an issue with the new filter. will give it a look after i wake up and get my weekly system upgrade done.
[13:52:34] <paulej72> now i know why filters are all shitty, this stuff is not trivial
[13:51:34] <paulej72> encoded <> getting unencoded
[13:51:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, journals and the filters
[13:50:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> which where who huh?
[13:50:00] <paulej72> no it is because the one of new fixes we are testing does not fix this iirc
[13:49:06] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 90
[13:49:06] <crutchy> paulej72++ # doin a bang up job guys. my issue is no biggie
[13:48:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 875
[13:48:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:47:55] <paulej72> crutchy: sorry about that, not sure if that was something we did recently or something that came with slash. we are in the process of fixing the filters and will keep this in mind.
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[13:43:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Weed rocks.
[13:43:54] <Ethanol-fueled> stoned.
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[13:16:33] <crutchy> never really looked at the format thingy before :d
[13:16:16] * crutchy just noticed extrans
[13:15:37] <crutchy> yeah
[13:15:35] <crutchy> plain old text
[13:15:07] <chromas> crutchy: using plain text mode?
[13:14:54] <crutchy> maybe i should make an issue on gh
[13:14:39] <crutchy> paulej72, it's a pain to put < and > symbols in journals. every time i hit preview i have to manually change < to < and > to > else it gets treated as html tags and goes poof when viewing
[13:11:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Curmudgeon Kicks Networking off his Lawn - http://sylnt.us - lived-for-three-months-in-a-paper-bag-in-a-septic-tank
[13:10:52] <exec> Weather for Princeton, NJ - currently 56°F / 13°C, clear, wind W at 4 mph, humidity 53% - Sunday partly cloudy (43°F-63°F / 6°C-17°C), Monday clear (48°F-61°F / 9°C-16°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (59°F-73°F / 15°C-23°C), Wednesday chance of rain (46°F-66°F / 8°C-19°C) - source: Google
[13:10:51] <paulej72> ~weather
[13:10:24] <exec> Sunday, 26 October 2014 @ 9:10 am EDT - Princeton, NJ
[13:10:23] <paulej72> ~time
[12:57:39] <ar> lazy sunday afternoon. went out for coffee (i drank hot chocolate and tea) and breakfast with friends
[12:56:42] <crutchy> almost monday :(
[12:56:37] <exec> Sunday, 26 October 2014 @ 1:56 pm GMT+1 - Warsaw, Poland
[12:56:35] <ar> ~time ar
[12:56:30] <exec> Sunday, 26 October 2014 @ 11:56 pm GMT+11 - Traralgon VIC, Australia
[12:56:29] <crutchy> ~time
[12:52:33] <ar> i tend to buy domains from ovh and use freedns.42.pl as the primary or secondary ns
[12:45:53] * geotti got a couple of .me and .it domains for <10, though, so he's happy with inwx
[12:45:16] <geotti> cheaper than the 70E that inwx wants, though
[12:42:41] <ar> ~50usd
[12:42:32] <geotti> ouch
[12:42:26] <ciri> 172.16 / 4 = 43.04
[12:42:26] <geotti> !g 172.16/4
[12:42:10] <ar> geotti: 172,16 PLN
[12:41:50] <crutchy> sylnt.us.to
[12:41:25] * crutchy is a cheapskate and uses freedns.afraid.org subdomains
[12:40:30] <ciri> not sure
[12:40:30] <geotti> how much was it? my registrar wants like ... too much for it
[12:40:03] <geotti> yay, you're a cool kid now!
[12:39:50] <ar> i can now start a startup. i just bought an .io domain
[12:39:49] <geotti> you're a couple of hours late for "moin" ; )
[12:39:28] <geotti> moin'
[12:39:19] <ar> moin
[12:39:12] <geotti> that's a good idea
[12:39:04] <geotti> actually, wine might work
[12:38:51] <chromas> run hexchat in a windows vm; that'll do it :D
[12:38:48] * geotti 's still running 10.7.x
[12:38:13] <geotti> probably, but I meant to upgrade at some point anyhow
[12:37:59] <chromas> rolling release kicks ass for the desktop
[12:37:51] <chromas> can you recompile it for your version?
[12:37:45] <Bender> karma - rolling_releases: -1
[12:37:45] <geotti> rolling_releases--
[12:37:32] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 58
[12:37:32] <chromas> archlinux++
[12:37:27] <chromas> ah
[12:37:23] <geotti> os x 10.9
[12:37:09] <chromas> requires 10.9?
[12:37:03] <chromas> I wonder if there's a winode
[12:36:54] <Bender> karma - hexchat: 1
[12:36:54] <geotti> hexchat--
[12:36:51] * geotti is devastated by the fact that hexchat requires 10.9 : (
[12:35:30] <Bender> karma - linode: 1
[12:35:30] <geotti> linode++
[12:34:58] <Bender> karma - bluehost: 1
[12:34:58] <chromas> bluehost++
[12:34:48] * chromas puts Barrabas in systemd
[12:34:45] <Konomi> pew pew
[12:34:43] * geotti reserves ^
[12:34:32] <geotti> I'll adjust the trigger, I just wanted to see, whether it's working
[12:34:20] <crutchy> drcoolbp
[12:34:17] <crutchy> lol
[12:34:09] <crutchy> yeah
[12:34:02] <chromas> half those people are gone :(
[12:33:54] <crutchy> what happened to SoylentMUD?
[12:33:47] <chromas> maximum ping!
[12:33:41] <Bender> -3, swisskid: -3, xyzzyyxxyx: -3, CHALLNGEACCPTD: -2, melikamp: -2, mattiep: -2, Barrabas: -2, Konomi: -2, drgibbon: -2, int: -1, martyb: -1, KhyberLaptop: -1, xyzzyyzzyx: -1, ragequit: -1, hax0rz: -1, ethanol-fueled: -1, Admiral_coolbp: -1, MrBluze_: -1, drussell: -1, mrgirlpluggedout: -1, FuckBeta: -1, Cyprus: -1
[12:33:41] <chromas> Bender: more
[12:31:44] <chromas> poor poutine--
[12:31:36] <Bender> downers of poutine are: kobach: -112, crutchy: -37, xlefay: -23, FoobarBazbot_: -19, FatPhil: -14, stderr: -13, andrew: -12, mrcoolbp: -11, Khyber: -11, mattie_p: -11, FoobarBazbot: -10, swiss: -10, SoylentMUD: -9, Ethanol-fueled: -8, pbnjoe: -7, drcoolbp: -7, chromas: -6, paulej72: -6, stdhell: -4, dx3bydt3: -4, FunPika: -3, MrBluze: -3, arti: -3, amblivious: -3, TheMightyBuzzard: - 1 more
[12:31:36] <chromas> Bender: whodown poutine
[12:31:21] <Bender> downers of bender are: d33tah: -16, mattie_p: -2, xlefay: -2, crutchy: -2, Subsentient: -1, Bytram: -1, TheMightyBuzzard: -1, KibiByte: -1, andrew: -1, stderr: -1, kobach: -1, sea`: -1
[12:31:21] <chromas> Bender: whodown bender
[12:31:12] <chromas> Bender also responds to its name
[12:30:42] <chromas> "Ciri's not here right now; leave a message"
[12:30:39] <crutchy> a bot bot :d
[12:30:23] <chromas> need a bot to reply to any trigger when its bot is missing :)
[12:30:22] <crutchy> maybe we need a trigger register
[12:30:03] <crutchy> then we might all be able to use !
[12:29:56] <crutchy> unless we figure out a better way to keep track of triggers
[12:29:26] <crutchy> check out the bot register. maybe add yours if you wanna bags a trigger
[12:29:06] <chromas> $
[12:29:04] <chromas> yeah
[12:29:03] <chromas> We currently have ~, ! and
[12:28:58] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03IRC
[12:28:57] <crutchy> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[12:28:34] <crutchy> geotti, just another minor thing. might be worth picking a different trigger
[12:28:32] <Bender> karma - retiring: -1
[12:28:32] <chromas> retiring--
[12:28:14] * crutchy started working on figuring out why the ~weather bot borked on berlin. so far only difference was absence of wind speed. will eventually get back to, but if other weather bots take over i'll be able to retire exec's weather script
[12:26:06] <crutchy> there's a few channels here now
[12:26:01] <chromas> /join #weather
[12:25:58] <chromas> quick!
[12:25:47] <crutchy> maybe #weather
[12:25:34] <geotti> seems to work, just gotta limit it to a specific server/channel
[12:25:20] <geotti> just for weechat
[12:25:16] <geotti> it's like an irssi script
[12:25:01] <crutchy> ^an eggdrop that chromas was using
[12:25:00] <geotti> ah
[12:24:48] <crutchy> oops. sorry i meant systemd (the bot)
[12:24:44] <geotti> weechat
[12:24:35] <crutchy> is it a eggdrop thing or did you roll your own?
[12:24:34] * geotti wonders which OS systemd can run...
[12:24:10] <crutchy> actually i think systemd had that too from vague memory
[12:23:34] <crutchy> ah
[12:23:30] <geotti> "WeatherBot using the WeatherUnderground API"
[12:23:14] <crutchy> is it google?
[12:23:11] <chromas> we can abuse geotti
[12:23:03] <crutchy> ooh
[12:23:02] <geotti> ha!
[12:22:58] <geotti> [Berlin, Germany] Mostly Cloudy. Temp is 12.1*C. Humidity: 88%.
[12:22:57] <crutchy> !weather berlin
[12:22:50] <crutchy> sorry
[12:22:48] <crutchy> ah
[12:22:44] * geotti is testing something
[12:22:35] <geotti> with !weather
[12:22:34] <exec> weather for 10Berlin, DE at 12:28 pm (GMT+1) ~ 54 mins ago: temp: 1011.7°C (53°F), dp: 1010.2°C (50.4°F), press: 101025.9 mb (-0.1 mb/30 mins), humid: 1090%, wind: 108 km/h (5 mph) @ 10196°
[12:22:30] <crutchy> ~weather-old berlin
[12:22:19] <SedBot9000> <geotti> crutchy: try writing it yourself
[12:22:19] <geotti> s/saying/writing/
[12:22:08] <crutchy> saying it?
[12:21:51] <geotti> crutchy: try saying it yourself
[12:21:51] <crutchy> uses APRS
[12:21:38] <crutchy> best bet is ~weather-old atm i think
[12:21:13] <geotti> !weather berlin
[11:51:16] <Konomi> not my text editor
[11:51:08] <Konomi> ops
[11:51:07] <Konomi> 300
[11:50:48] <crutchy> hmm that prolly should have been to juggs actually... for polling a channel kick
[11:47:46] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN journal 03Soylent IRC voting system 04(0 comments)
[11:47:46] <crutchy> mrcoolbp, http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:37] <crutchy> few already in feed
[11:44:51] <crutchy> didn't bother hunting for rss links sorry
[11:44:42] <Konomi> haters gonnna hate
[11:44:37] <crutchy> for inclusion in regurgitator feed
[11:44:31] <paulej72> systemdddd
[11:44:24] <crutchy> juggs, summary of links from early content science article comments: https://github.com
[11:44:16] <paulej72> systemddd
[11:44:11] <paulej72> systemdd
[11:43:53] <Bender> karma - systemd: -15
[11:43:53] <geotti> systemd--
[11:43:43] <Bender> karma - sencha: 4
[11:43:43] <geotti> sencha++
[11:43:33] <Bender> karma - ceeffo: 1
[11:43:33] <paulej72> ceeffo++
[11:43:24] <Bender> karma - as_expected: 1
[11:43:24] <geotti> as_expected++
[11:43:14] <Bender> karma - coffee: 874
[11:43:14] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:43:09] <Bender> karma - coffeescript: 1
[11:43:09] <geotti> coffeescript++
[11:43:03] <paulej72> javascript the old systemd
[11:43:02] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 5 - http://sylnt.us
[11:42:59] <Azrael> ~queue
[11:42:48] <crutchy> js is ok for minor ui enhancements
[11:42:30] <Konomi> jscript the new flash player
[11:42:20] <Konomi> not for being too bad though it has bad points just the out of control abuse web site devs inflict with it
[11:41:59] <crutchy> one for tmb maybe ^
[11:41:20] <Bender> karma - javascript: -1
[11:41:20] <Konomi> javascript--
[11:41:17] <crutchy> minor issue with <code> tags... shouldn't have to manually encode entities like < and >
[11:38:54] <Bender> karma - wiki_editing: 1
[11:38:54] <crutchy> wiki_editing++
[11:38:09] <Bender> karma - idling: 1
[11:38:09] <geotti> idling++
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[11:16:14] <prospectacle> well better go for getting rest. Thanks for advice all and a good day to you
[11:11:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NPR Guts Its Environment And Climate Reporting Team, Becomes "Part Of The Problem" - http://sylnt.us - written-under
[11:11:27] <SirFinkus> but that's a lie
[11:11:20] <SirFinkus> the heater says 65 to 70 in The Other Temperature Scale
[11:10:50] <geotti> oh, that's the heater settings
[11:10:40] <Bender> karma - kelvin: 2
[11:10:40] <chromas> kelvin++
[11:10:28] <ciri> 26 degrees Celsius = 78.8 degrees Fahrenheit
[11:10:28] <chromas> !g 26 degrees c to f
[11:10:25] <SirFinkus> I'm using celsius, as it is the proper measurement for temperature
[11:10:06] <geotti> ouch
[11:10:03] <ciri> 26 degrees Fahrenheit = -3.33333333 degrees Celsius
[11:10:02] <geotti> !g 26 farenheit to celsius
[11:09:50] <geotti> ~g 26 farenheit to celsius
[11:09:32] <SirFinkus> 26° and 15°
[11:09:15] <Bender> karma - natural_gas: 1
[11:09:15] <geotti> natural_gas++
[11:08:58] <SirFinkus> my fucking portable heater, has 2 settings
[11:08:50] <geotti> SirFinkus: that's in Germany : ) sorry to have confused you
[11:08:37] <SirFinkus> it sounded like that was a problem before, with the text messages linking to an email
[11:08:24] <Bender> karma - wifi: 2
[11:08:24] <geotti> wifi++
[11:08:12] <geotti> yeah, but data is already paid for
[11:08:08] <SirFinkus> i'd imagine it'd be about the same as clicking a link to an email
[11:08:05] <Bender> karma - wifi: 1
[11:08:05] <chromas> wifi++
[11:07:56] <SirFinkus> if you're worried about that
[11:07:50] <SirFinkus> well, xmpp uses data too
[11:07:42] <Bender> karma - bing: 1
[11:07:42] <chromas> bing++
[11:07:35] <Bender> karma - duckduckgo: 3
[11:07:35] <geotti> duckduckgo++
[11:07:32] <Bender> karma - google: -2
[11:07:32] <geotti> google--
[11:07:29] <Bender> karma - xmpp: 5
[11:07:29] <chromas> xmpp++
[11:07:28] <chromas> we all still like google, right?
[11:07:24] <geotti> if you've got a smartphone, you'll get push notifications to your xmpp client
[11:07:06] <chromas> google voice does sms
[11:07:05] <Bender> karma - xmpp: 4
[11:07:05] <geotti> xmpp++
[11:07:04] <geotti> or, XMPP
[11:06:55] <SirFinkus> yeah, that'd work too
[11:06:38] <geotti> get a voip account, charge it with a dollar and just call your phone
[11:06:15] <geotti> SirFinkus: but you've got something there
[11:05:57] <SirFinkus> oh wait, got confused with you and geotti
[11:05:46] <geotti> prospectacle: hey, just make the server call you
[11:05:21] <prospectacle> lol, the old prank call as free message concept
[11:04:56] <SirFinkus> why not just do the text message thing, and when they send you a link you'll know your server is down
[11:04:32] <SirFinkus> wait, if it's that simple
[11:03:56] <prospectacle> guess I could make an app tha makes a sound with a file is changed on the server
[11:02:38] <SirFinkus> obviously it only works for text, but that sounds like it'd be fine for your purposes
[11:01:55] <SirFinkus> and you can reply to it normally from both sides
[11:01:41] <SirFinkus> mine just shows up as a text message
[11:01:35] <SirFinkus> lame
[11:00:42] <geotti> i.e. by sending you a msg with a link to the email, so you spend data
[11:00:22] <geotti> here they charge you for it, afaik
[11:00:05] <prospectacle> looks like mine wants to charge for the privilege, anyway will investigate, thanks for the advice
[10:57:56] <SirFinkus> most of the us providers have an email gateway
[10:57:12] * geotti doesn't think it works in z germany
[10:57:03] <SirFinkus> <number>@vtext.com
[10:56:56] <SirFinkus> like, for verizon
[10:56:49] <chromas> ^ yep. Sometimes it'll be sms.provider.com or something though; should be on the web site
[10:56:49] <prospectacle> sirfinkus, that's interesting, i wonder if that works for my provider,
[10:56:21] <SirFinkus> I've sent stuff to <phonenumber>@provider.com and it works just fine
[10:56:14] <Bender> karma - xmpp: 3
[10:56:14] <geotti> xmpp++ for being a multi-talent
[10:56:12] <chromas> (except for the xml part)
[10:56:06] <Bender> karma - xmpp: 2
[10:56:06] <chromas> xmpp++
[10:55:45] <geotti> xmpp is cheaper
[10:55:28] <prospectacle> I figure sms probably easiest way
[10:55:24] <prospectacle> i just need my web server to be able to wake me up and tell me it's sick and needs help
[10:54:30] <geotti> prospectacle: they do faxes as well, usually
[10:54:22] <chromas> haven't used other carriers or sms gateway much
[10:54:11] <geotti> prospectacle: you're looking for UMS gateways (unified messaging system)
[10:54:06] <chromas> I know Sprint has one; pretty sure tmobile does as well
[10:53:30] <prospectacle> chromas, thanks for the tip
[10:53:01] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://sylnt.us
[10:52:54] <crutchy> ~suggest-exec <geotti> crutchy: maybe add a ~videosearch
[10:52:22] * geotti never saw a php bot before
[10:51:58] <geotti> crutchy: maybe add a ~videosearch
[10:51:52] <chromas> prospectacle: some carriers have sms gateways
[10:51:15] <chromas> haven't seen that in years
[10:47:25] <geotti> chromas: http://www.anyclip.com!quotes/
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[10:40:42] <chromas> at least one
[10:40:40] <chromas> lol, they got their own wiki
[10:40:38] <crutchy> geotti, the sources for ~define are here: https://github.com
[10:40:31] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wesley Pipes - Wikiporno
[10:40:30] <chromas> http://www.wikiporno.org
[10:40:06] <chromas> thought they were just props
[10:39:47] <chromas> male porn actors have names?
[10:39:45] <geotti> ok hold on chromas, I'll get you the quote
[10:39:18] <ciri> XVIDEOS.COM @ http://www.xvideos.com
[10:39:17] <ciri> 707,000 results | Wesley Pipes (@realwesleypipes) | Twitter @ https://twitter.com | Wesley Pipes (@ShxtWesleySays) | Twitter @ https://twitter.com | Mimi & Nikko Respond to Wesley Pipes' Sex Proposition - YouTube @ http://www.youtube.com | Wesley Pipes - IMDb @ http://www.imdb.com | BROWN SUGAR VS. WESLEY Pipes -
[10:39:16] <geotti> !g wesley pipes
[10:39:11] <geotti> exec, we're counting on you
[10:39:05] <exec> wesley pipes: unable to find definition
[10:39:05] <chromas> if he's in the corner, is he losing his religion?
[10:38:49] <chromas> ~define wesley pipes
[10:38:38] * geotti looks at wesley pipes standing in the corner
[10:38:37] <prospectacle> does anyone know of a good sms relay service, e.g. you send an email to something and it sends an sms for you ?
[10:38:18] <chromas> geotti: use ii, then you can connect anything with pipes
[10:38:10] <geotti> you can also get a cloak from one of the projects
[10:38:00] <geotti> with freenode
[10:37:46] <geotti> sometimes
[10:37:46] <chromas> does that mean unaffiliated with freenode? or just of any projects?
[10:37:39] <Bender> karma - tmux: 4
[10:37:39] <geotti> tmux++
[10:37:37] <geotti> chromas: I wanna use either irssi or weechat, to be able to connect there through
[10:37:25] <chromas> unaffiliated? I've seen that a lot
[10:36:59] * geotti dances around the wildfire in a circle chanting ominous hymns to the freenode gods
[10:36:35] <geotti> Yay, I got a cloak on freenode in like seconds
[10:35:39] <chromas> could use znc
[10:35:14] <geotti> crutchy: istalled weechat as a relay to connect to with my client
[10:34:49] <Bender> karma - foobarbazbot: 8
[10:34:49] <chromas> FoobarBazbot-- # for not being around anymore
[10:34:38] <crutchy> brobot
[10:34:29] <chromas> his bazbot
[10:34:25] <chromas> FoobarBazbot is his bot
[10:34:19] <Bender> karma - ciri: 1
[10:34:19] <prospectacle> ciri--
[10:34:03] <crutchy> do you have a spybot geotti?
[10:33:56] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[10:33:55] <prospectacle> lol
[10:33:53] <crutchy> relay?
[10:33:26] <crutchy> i think scheme is part of CS courses nowadays... that should be punishment enough :d
[10:32:59] <prospectacle> yeah i reckon proramning students should have to master spaghetti code for a month or two before being given structured programming blocks, then they'd appreciate them (and by extension, the concept of organisation)
[10:31:53] <chromas> I was excited when I discovered qbasic had whole subroutines. "I got a boner in church today"
[10:30:56] * geotti sees that his relay didn't work as expected...
[10:30:42] <prospectacle> gorilla, gosub, etc
[10:30:29] <prospectacle> man i used to love gwbasic
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[10:29:31] <crutchy> his mother worked for ibm when the 'big deal' was made apparently
[10:29:26] <prospectacle> he did "Create" a lot though in teh sense of running the company that made them, like jobs. Hard to deny their personal influence by hte way they ran their companies
[10:29:23] <chromas> let's all install gwbasic!
[10:29:22] <SirFinkus> my understanding is that gates kind of knew his shit
[10:29:02] <prospectacle> not sure how much gates wrote. I think he made a bunch of early basic interpreters when that was a big deal
[10:28:58] <SirFinkus> thought you said something different
[10:28:58] <chromas> well I missed a few keys there
[10:28:48] <SirFinkus> oh
[10:28:42] <chromas> thought that was before
[10:28:36] <SirFinkus> traffodata
[10:28:25] <prospectacle> civilisation being the personal computer
[10:28:23] <chromas> did gates ver make anything after buying qdos?
[10:28:14] <prospectacle> true, she and babbage, turing etc are like the primordial gods, almost lost in myth, before the age of civilisation
[10:28:10] <crutchy> a lot of people don't even know who the second man to walk on the moon was
[10:27:16] <crutchy> guess money talks
[10:27:11] <crutchy> people like ada lovelace seem to be largely forgotten though
[10:26:25] <prospectacle> well, i guess they're not all alive
[10:25:57] <prospectacle> it's funny to think that when software history bcomes a standard part of education, (probably in twenty or thirty years), people who are alive today will be the great founding fathers: gates, jobs, torvalds, stallman, eich, page, etc
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[10:04:18] * JamesNZ bows out \o
[10:04:08] <Bender> karma - sleep: 4
[10:04:08] <JamesNZ> sleep++
[10:03:25] <chromas> so uh, it IS eunichs then
[10:03:00] <crutchy> that was the only word i could think of that fit starting with N
[10:02:32] <crutchy> GNU Neuters Users
[10:02:09] * JamesNZ loads his GNU
[10:01:50] <SirFinkus> GUN to my head
[10:01:50] <chromas> gunoo
[10:01:36] <JamesNZ> I maintain it stands for GUN ;)
[10:01:06] <Bender> karma - nugs: 1
[10:01:06] <chromas> nugs++
[10:01:00] <chromas> for NUG!
[10:00:54] <chromas> oh yeah, GNU is an anagram
[10:00:13] <SirFinkus> no, GNU
[09:59:13] <chromas> ossex did it
[09:57:07] <crutchy> oh noes! konominetbook is dead!
[09:56:44] <SirFinkus> I'm talking a little bit out of my ass there though, it's just based on my perception of the developer culture
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[09:55:46] <SirFinkus> I trust the BSD guys to release ultra-stable stuff more than gnu guys
[09:55:43] <chromas> they should; who needs gnu anymore?
[09:55:29] <SirFinkus> I think they could update the bsd stuff pretty easily, but don't
[09:55:23] <Bender> karma - gpl3: -1
[09:55:23] <chromas> gpl3--
[09:55:09] <SirFinkus> the gnu stuff anyway
[09:55:00] <SirFinkus> it's licensing shit, everything switched to gpl3
[09:54:39] <chromas> nah, they're just stable
[09:54:26] <SirFinkus> the coreutils are really out of date though
[09:53:44] <chromas> there was an older macintosh set up at Skool years ago that was upgraded to ossex but it was slow and then someone stole the mouse
[09:53:33] <SirFinkus> and things like application data and stuff
[09:53:11] <SirFinkus> it dumps some config files in places
[09:53:01] <chromas> never actually used ossex
[09:52:49] <SirFinkus> pretty much
[09:52:35] <chromas> I also like the apple software package style; it's just a folder with all the programs and libs it needs, right?
[09:52:04] <SirFinkus> I like osx a lot, you get a lot of the power you get with linux distros, with a lot less of a fuss
[09:51:59] <chromas> I just want a display with a decent resolution
[09:51:29] <chromas> of course, I'd install linux on it
[09:51:25] <chromas> I wouldn't mind if someone gave me a broken apple laptop that turned out to just be a bad hdd :)
[09:50:47] <SirFinkus> you can toggle the behavior with fn I think
[09:50:32] <chromas> should call it delete-left or something dumber
[09:50:16] <chromas> so it's not really space-related
[09:49:53] <chromas> backspace deletes to the left of the cursor
[09:49:40] <SirFinkus> I never really remember the distinction, it works how I'd expect it to though
[09:49:05] <chromas> They still call backspace delete
[09:48:48] <SirFinkus> on all their laptops
[09:48:19] <SirFinkus> http://i.stack.imgur.com
[09:47:26] <SirFinkus> yeah, that's super old school
[09:47:06] <chromas> that's what I was thinking of with the power button
[09:47:00] <chromas> http://www.maclife.com
[09:46:33] <chromas> looks like they still do. I want F16 dammit
[09:45:37] <chromas> I also remember some keyboards (at least for apple) had extra F keys. I want extra F keys
[09:45:33] <SirFinkus> it doesn't do anything unless you hold it down though
[09:45:03] <SirFinkus> in the place f13 would be
[09:44:52] <SirFinkus> it's right of f12
[09:44:43] <chromas> Didn't it used to be just behind the F keys, leftish?
[09:44:35] <SirFinkus> but I can count the number of times I've hit it on accident on one hand
[09:44:15] <chromas> only affected me though
[09:44:14] <SirFinkus> power button is right next to delete on macs
[09:44:03] <chromas> actually I think it was where Escape belonged and Escape was moved over a bit
[09:43:44] <chromas> I once knew someone whose keyboard had a power button next to Escape
[09:43:41] <SirFinkus> muscle memory lol
[09:43:36] <SirFinkus> I don't even remember which keys + and - are used for in df, I have everything so memorized
[09:42:46] <chromas> /.
[09:42:40] <chromas> it does have the nice extra keys perfect for gaming; 0, ., /
[09:42:13] <SirFinkus> for the numpad rather
[09:42:07] <SirFinkus> also, df is optimized to the numpad
[09:41:53] <chromas> or they should just map the number pad numbers to movement
[09:41:51] <SirFinkus> a lot of games I've played will interpret that as move left, then move up
[09:41:23] <chromas> and can press more than one at a time
[09:41:21] <SirFinkus> can't move diagonal
[09:41:13] <chromas> I have arrow keys
[09:41:02] <SirFinkus> need it for the roguelikes
[09:40:58] <chromas> I should make the Dumlock key a coffee++ key :)
[09:40:56] * SirFinkus still uses numlock occasionally
[09:40:13] <chromas> oh yeah, back when the locks had use
[09:40:12] <SirFinkus> not really negotiable
[09:40:04] <SirFinkus> and the power button, but you kind of need one of those
[09:39:46] <SirFinkus> except maybe caps lock
[09:39:33] <chromas> my ms keyboard has them labeled though, plus "Bold" on B key et cetera
[09:39:31] <SirFinkus> compared to other keys on my keyboard, they're used pretty rarely
[09:39:04] <chromas> they didn't exist back then
[09:38:45] <crutchy> actually how did those operations escape inclusion in standard keyboard layouts?
[09:38:38] <chromas> at least, the graphical ones
[09:38:31] <chromas> linux file managers also follow the cut/copy/paste style
[09:38:22] * crutchy is surprised apple doesn't just have cut/copy/paste keys
[09:37:51] <SirFinkus> at the destination
[09:37:49] <chromas> ah
[09:37:45] <SirFinkus> but you'll command v to paste, or command option v to move
[09:37:33] <chromas> on windows, it dims the file on cut
[09:37:31] <SirFinkus> so you'll command-c to copy and to cut
[09:37:28] <crutchy> like files in windows
[09:37:24] <chromas> oh I see
[09:37:16] <SirFinkus> the cut operation takes place with the paste on osx
[09:36:31] <chromas> They don't disappear from the cut location on apple?
[09:30:28] <SirFinkus> with windows I can see "oh, meant to copy that" and revise my command before any operations
[09:29:48] <SirFinkus> I've cut and pasted files lots of times when I meant to copy on osx, and I only discover it later
[09:29:31] <SirFinkus> since you have instant feedback on the cut action
[09:29:16] <SirFinkus> windows does handle cut and paste better
[09:28:22] <chromas> or standardized; whatever, like win-key for window-functions
[09:28:11] <Bender> karma - available_at_fine_bookstores_everywhere: 1
[09:28:11] <SirFinkus> available_at_fine_bookstores_everywhere++
[09:28:07] <chromas> I do wish the controls were more segregated
[09:27:45] <crutchy> ctrlctl start copy
[09:27:44] <SirFinkus> Command and Control is a good book btw, I'd highly recommend you read it
[09:27:18] <chromas> control is our command key
[09:26:34] <Bender> karma - osx: 6
[09:26:34] <SirFinkus> osx++
[09:26:32] <SirFinkus> osx does it correctly, copy and paste use the command key instead of control
[09:26:14] <Bender> karma - windows: -9
[09:26:14] <JamesNZ> windows--
[09:26:04] <crutchy> you have to right-click the title bar, select the edit menu and then click copy/paste
[09:25:51] <SirFinkus> whoever decided to bind one of the most commonly used control characters to the most commonly used keyboard shortcut should probably be shot
[09:25:48] <chromas> also shift+delete for cut
[09:25:41] <crutchy> win-bash is even worse
[09:25:24] <chromas> I still use ctrl—oops, ctl+Insert, shift+insert for copy/paste
[09:25:08] <SirFinkus> exactly
[09:25:01] <crutchy> i occasionally kill my bot with a ctrl+c (trying to copy something)
[09:24:31] <Bender> karma - ctrl_c_copy: -1
[09:24:31] <SirFinkus> ctrl_c_copy--
[09:24:18] <Bender> karma - auto_scroll: 0
[09:24:18] <SirFinkus> auto_scroll++ #heathen
[09:24:15] <Bender> karma - jog_wheel: 1
[09:24:15] <chromas> jog_wheel++
[09:24:06] <Bender> karma - auto_scroll: -1
[09:24:06] <chromas> auto_scroll--
[09:24:05] <SirFinkus> well, that
[09:23:55] <chromas> I usually see it called auto scroll
[09:22:53] <SirFinkus> idk what the technical name is
[09:22:41] <SirFinkus> no, it's where you middle click and the cursor turns into a shit and it scrolls faster or slower depending on how far from the shit you move the pointer
[09:22:34] <chromas> except this one; it barely has the stops and it likes to scroll just as I'm clicking
[09:22:19] * chromas takes the springs out of mice to do that
[09:22:04] <chromas> is that when you disable the click stops in the wheel?
[09:22:02] <SirFinkus> ctrl-c_copy--
[09:21:55] <SirFinkus> but
[09:21:42] <SirFinkus> I use free scrolling all the time when I'm on a mouse though
[09:21:34] <SirFinkus> can't stand that
[09:20:45] <Bender> karma - middle_mouse_button_paste: 1
[09:20:45] <chromas> middle_mouse_button_paste++
[09:20:36] <Bender> karma - karma_spam_oclock: 1
[09:20:36] <SirFinkus> karma_spam_oclock++
[09:20:16] <Bender> karma - giving_as_many_points_as_possible_to_overly_long_karma_titles: 2
[09:20:16] <chromas> giving_as_many_points_as_possible_to_overly_long_karma_titles++
[09:19:55] <Bender> karma - giving_as_many_points_as_possible_to_overly_long_karma_titles: 1
[09:19:55] <SirFinkus> giving_as_many_points_as_possible_to_overly_long_karma_titles++
[09:19:10] <Bender> karma - sierra_nevada_torpedo_extra_ipa: 1
[09:19:10] <SirFinkus> sierra_nevada_torpedo_extra_ipa++
[09:16:49] <Bender> karma - blue_and_cranberry_smoothie_thinger: 1
[09:16:48] <chromas> blue_and_cranberry_smoothie_thinger++
[09:16:27] <Bender> karma - iced_coffee: 5
[09:16:27] <crutchy> iced_coffee++
[09:16:19] <Bender> karma - cheddar_and_jalepeno_bagels_with_chive_and_onion_cream_cheese: 1
[09:16:19] <SirFinkus> cheddar_and_jalepeno_bagels_with_chive_and_onion_cream_cheese++
[09:16:13] <crutchy> need to include a cache lookup in the get account function rather than checking separately
[09:15:59] <chromas> Prayers answered
[09:15:36] <chromas> Pray the Gay Away, jesus comes down and buttfucks some gays to kill them off with aids
[09:15:34] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> <SirFinkus> if you are trying to treat aids, you're DISOBEYING the WILL OF JEBUS
[09:15:34] <crutchy> SirFinkus, s/GOD/JEBUS/
[09:15:02] <chromas> so true
[09:13:36] <SirFinkus> if you are trying to treat aids, you're DISOBEYING the WILL OF GOD
[09:13:19] <SirFinkus> well, don't you know that aids is GOD's punishment for the GAYS
[09:13:10] <crutchy> nah i believe them cos they kick ass with a lot of stuff
[09:12:42] <chromas> that's just what THEY WANT you to beLIEve, crutchy!!2
[09:12:31] <SirFinkus> if only it hadn't taken Freddy from us ;_;
[09:12:30] <crutchy> hmm that sounded wrong
[09:12:18] <crutchy> i think the monash medical centre here is kicking some goals with aids
[09:12:14] <SirFinkus> based on what I've read, it's basically more expensive diabetes
[09:11:56] <chromas> that's why we need AIDS 2
[09:11:45] <SirFinkus> aids now is pretty treatable
[09:11:30] <crutchy> aids also isn't an efficient killer
[09:11:28] <chromas> it's just 'cause aids isn't trendy anymore while ebola is
[09:11:28] <SirFinkus> apparently they were close to a vaccine, but discontinued development because there weren't going to be any profits
[09:11:02] <crutchy> not that i would know
[09:10:52] <crutchy> and aids appears to be harder to spread than ebola
[09:10:21] <crutchy> they bring it out when the deaths have reached the right amount
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[09:09:54] <crutchy> wouldn't be surprised if there's a cure for ebola stashed away somewhere
[09:09:54] <chromas> AIDS 2: Cancer Takes a Back Seat
[09:09:38] <crutchy> aids is a bit harder to protect
[09:09:18] <chromas> yeah but there just aren't that many people getting sick. Release the AIDS
[09:08:42] <crutchy> bombing countries is falling out of fashion
[09:08:07] <chromas> not very efficient
[09:07:47] <crutchy> if i had my tinfoil hat on properly i'd swear this ebola thing stinks of ethnic cleansing or some shit
[09:03:33] <Bender> karma - presents: 1
[09:03:33] <chromas> presents++
[09:03:28] <chromas> crutchy: we sent it there just for you
[09:01:20] <crutchy> and we just gave him a dna point guddammit
[09:00:44] <crutchy> god is playing 'plague inc'
[09:00:29] <crutchy> oh my.. ebola has arrived in australia
[08:55:59] <crutchy> premature ejection?
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[08:54:56] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> <chromas> Chuck Norris will take care of the pests and then teach them about jebus
[08:54:56] <crutchy> chromas, s/s/b/4
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[08:12:37] <chromas> Chuck Norris will take care of the pests and then teach them about jesus
[08:11:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - EPA Finds Little Benefit to Pesticide Linked to Bee Declines - http://sylnt.us - bad-and-not-good
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[06:39:26] <crutchy> oops should take this to #
[06:39:08] <exec> butt-kick
[06:39:07] <crutchy> ~vote list
[06:38:57] <exec> vote "butt-kick" registered
[06:38:55] <crutchy> ~vote register butt-kick
[06:38:23] <crutchy> ~vote register butt-kick
[06:29:20] <Bender> todo item 3 added
[06:29:20] <juggs> !todo look in to the buckets of darkness
[06:25:55] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03IRC:exec
[06:25:54] <crutchy> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[06:25:34] <exec> no votes registered
[06:25:32] <crutchy> ~vote list
[06:23:46] <juggs> I have no idea what your buckets are, but I'm glad you like them :)
[06:22:08] <juggs> I has command line.... I cam has the world!
[06:20:28] * crutchy is trying to figure out bucket data structure for a simple vote
[06:19:36] <crutchy> ah oh. better do crutchyctl start pwndmypyewtad
[06:18:50] <juggs> Oh wait.. wht I has no desktop anymore?
[06:17:58] <juggs> sudo crutchyctl stop && sudo systemd-apt-managerd --purge crutchy crutchyd crutchyd-managed crutchyd-ircd systemd-crutchyd-init systemd-ircd-botcl-bot-libs
[06:09:45] <crutchy> brainctl pipe finger
[06:01:39] <juggs> sorry, I'm randomly piping thoughts to fingers
[06:00:27] <Landon> ah
[06:00:15] <juggs> I was thinking elections Landon, not relevant for a yes/no kick vote. But I'm questioning whether we need a kick vote at all now.
[05:58:09] <Landon> "format of the vote" ?
[05:57:22] <chromas> 1 2
[05:57:09] <chromas> rule 34, ciri
[05:57:02] <chromas> 34
[05:56:54] <juggs> 02
[05:56:52] <juggs> 01
[05:56:51] <juggs> 00
[05:56:29] <juggs> c
[05:56:29] <juggs> b
[05:56:28] <juggs> a
[05:56:26] <juggs> hmm
[05:56:03] <ciri> 10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:56:02] <chromas> potato!
[05:56:01] <ciri> 9
[05:55:59] <ciri> 8
[05:55:57] <ciri> 7
[05:55:55] <ciri> 6
[05:55:53] <ciri> 5
[05:55:51] <ciri> 4
[05:55:49] <ciri> 3
[05:55:49] <juggs> 3
[05:55:48] <juggs> 2
[05:55:48] <juggs> 1
[05:55:42] <chromas> where's ciri with a 3?
[05:55:29] <chromas> [2]
[05:55:19] <juggs> yep - but first we need to decide on the format of the vote
[05:54:46] <chromas> we should vote to decide that
[05:54:29] <juggs> Should we allow anyone to be eliminated in such a way by group think? I'm not at all sure my idea is sane.
[05:51:44] <juggs> My suggestion was more around not having rules at all an letting the community decide who to eliminate.
[05:50:01] <juggs> ya ya - publish the rules and everyone steps up to just the other side of the rule.
[05:49:39] <Landon> "don't touch me!" "I'm not touching you!" *finger is millimeters away just hovering*
[05:49:13] <Landon> keep them sort of obscure so people don't actively toe the line
[05:49:05] <Landon> juggs: right, just thinking along the lines of how HN does things
[05:48:46] <juggs> Landon, I'm only talking "official" channels. The others are on their own, they can bring in chan control bots as they see fit.
[05:48:30] <chromas> fu, NetCraft
[05:48:25] <Landon> and I hate to suggest this, but maybe make it an unpublished module with unpublished parameters
[05:48:23] * NetCraft votes to kick chromas
[05:47:49] <chromas> and bots
[05:46:57] <chromas> also account for channel flooding
[05:46:48] <Landon> if someone's trolling a mostly idle channel, meeh
[05:46:41] <Landon> that might scale better with bursts of activity and long stretches of nothing
[05:46:26] <juggs> you fat bastard
[05:46:26] <Landon> juggs: maybe last N lines
[05:46:11] * chromas gets the weight of ten votes :)
[05:44:52] <juggs> So one IRC staffer is not unilaterally turfing people out, we have an op'd bot, anyone can call a !vote-eject and as long as 50%+ of channel active in the last N hours second it, said person gets booted. I need to flesh out the parameters. Is this a sane idea?
[05:41:50] <crutchy> could make one without all the email crap just for basic voting
[05:41:14] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03IRC:exec
[05:41:13] <crutchy> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[05:40:57] <crutchy> i've already got a ~vote thing kinda in the works
[05:40:11] <juggs> Ohh...... reminds me... I was thinking on that whole kickban / kline thing I was tying myself up in ethical dilemmas over. Mebbee we should have a game like !vote mechanism.
[05:39:14] <chromas> someone suggested https://lobste.rs . Never heard of it but it looks kind of like hn
[05:36:51] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://sylnt.us
[05:36:44] <crutchy> ~suggest-exec when regurgitator gets a wiki page, add a section ==Suggestions from IRC== and i'll be able to add a ~suggest-rss scripty to add to the list
[05:36:43] <juggs> self preservation more than smart
[05:36:08] <crutchy> lol sounds smart
[05:35:55] <juggs> I'm not tiddling with config files at 5.30am :)
[05:35:36] <crutchy> when you get a wiki page, add a section ==Suggestions from IRC== and i'll be able to add a ~suggest-rss scripty to add to the list
[05:34:49] <juggs> works for mw
[05:34:34] <Bender> todo for juggs: 1) rss-bot wiki page 2) crutchy says there's some handy site links in the science content story comments, regurge them
[05:34:34] <juggs> !todo
[05:34:28] <Bender> todo item 2 added
[05:34:27] <juggs> !todo crutchy says there's some handy site links in the science content story comments, regurge them
[05:32:53] <crutchy> maybe we could get some of them into regurgitator's feed list?
[05:32:41] <juggs> I wouldn't mind but the damn thing had an external control to spin the basket to drop ash and clinkers - noooo that's too easy - open the door and poke it with a stick or a brass poker in this case I guess.
[05:32:36] <crutchy> juggs, there seems to be some handy site links in the science content story comments
[05:27:39] <Bender> karma - poker_action: 1
[05:27:39] <crutchy> poker_action++
[05:26:53] <juggs> I fancied restoring it, but some former owner had also managed to destroy the entire fire-basket with over enthusiastic poker action. ~sigh~
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[05:23:22] * juggs shakes fist at self
[05:23:05] <juggs> me and my apostrophe's
[05:22:10] <juggs> paulej72, this was a 30's Godin stove, most retro with it's dark green enamel amd made from heavy cast iron
[05:16:40] <chromas> 3mph?
[05:16:17] <exec> Weather for Walla Walla, WA - currently 63°F / 17°C, mostly cloudy, wind SW at 3 mph, humidity 50% - Saturday chance of rain (43°F-72°F / 6°C-22°C), Sunday chance of showers (41°F-57°F / 5°C-14°C), Monday partly cloudy (43°F-55°F / 6°C-13°C), Tuesday chance of rain (48°F-57°F / 9°C-14°C) - source: Google
[05:16:16] <chromas> ~weather
[05:14:17] <paulej72> it was designed as a fireplace insert
[05:13:56] <paulej72> t
[05:13:42] <paulej72> mine is just a steel box in a box lined with fire brick. had the top of the inside box all cherry red many of time.
[05:11:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Frontiers Launches New Open-Access Journal: Frontiers in ICT. - http://sylnt.us - journals-live
[05:11:12] <juggs> lol - last place I lived, someone had managed to cook off the vitreous enamel on the cast-iron stove. Must have been toasty as that stuff doesn't bake until ~850 C ~1450F. I can only think they loaded it with fuel, opened the draft to get it going and fell asleep. Only to wake to a "why the hell is the stove glowing?" kinda moment.
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[05:09:05] <crutchy> i wouldn't be surprised if permanent magnetism has a few tricks up its sleeve that we haven't discovered yet. laws of thermodynamics be damned!
[05:05:48] <crutchy> maybe thorium has promise
[05:05:38] <crutchy> straya has heaps of uranium so we could go nuclear, but its not very popular lately
[05:04:53] <crutchy> i'm interested in permanent magnets. they're like black magic or something
[05:04:45] <paulej72> i have gotten a coal funace nasa hot on ocasion
[05:04:29] <crutchy> juggs i agree. i dunno what it will be though
[05:04:01] <juggs> I'm not an enviro-nut, I just think we need to move away from digging shit up and setting fire to it. Logically that is a finite resource, so let's get on with researching ways not to dig shit up and set fire to it for our energy security for future generations. I do like he warmth from a well stoked coal stove :D
[05:03:47] <paulej72> most were deep in the old days as the amount of cover to remove was too much for the tools of the tme
[05:02:47] <crutchy> massive holes in the ground
[05:02:27] <crutchy> only open cuts around here
[05:02:17] <paulej72> mix of deep mine and strip mines
[05:01:48] <crutchy> same here
[05:01:36] <paulej72> i grew up in soft coal country
[05:01:15] <crutchy> black is less of a menace though
[05:01:03] <crutchy> or black
[05:00:54] <juggs> yes.. coal is the brown menace
[05:00:36] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[05:00:36] <crutchy> lol
[05:00:23] <paulej72> he he, you said brown
[04:59:26] <crutchy> australia has some gas and hydro, but with ready access to the biggest brown coal seam in the world i don't see us moving away from coal any time soon
[04:53:46] <juggs> I'm listening to Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath right now Ethanol-fueled. The re-mastered version has been breathed on by sound engineers - the rain at the beginning of the track... yeh they managed to spatially move that above your head with just a 2 speaker setup. My speakers are on the floor, yet sound placed above... that's some funky manipulation of sound.
[04:50:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Man, you sods ROCK.
[04:50:31] <juggs> crutchy, hydro has no application if you need to pour a bajillion tonnes of concrete to dam some waterway or create an artificial reservoir. Hydro - where geology allows can provide some of the storage needed to supplement solar / wind.
[04:49:50] <Ethanol-fueled> ooooh, ooohooWEEEE.
[04:49:20] <Ethanol-fueled> HA ha.
[04:49:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Orion.
[04:49:11] <NetCraft> ^ 03Metallica - Orion (HD) - YouTube
[04:49:11] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.youtube.com
[04:48:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Orion.
[04:47:21] <juggs> Electricity has me in a musing stance. Germany is a point here - they trumpet how well they have done moving to wind and solar - all the while opening up new brown bituminous coal power generation plants and strip mining that crud.
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[04:45:40] <Ethanol-fueled> OYOOYOYOY
[04:37:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Slaves! Hebrews born to serve, to the Pharoah
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[04:32:00] <crutchy> hydro is the way to go, but is limited by location
[04:30:54] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03Wind turbine
[04:30:53] <crutchy> by comparison, from http://en.wikipedia.org the highest capacity wind turbine is 8MW
[04:30:40] <SpallsHurgenson> 500 milliwatts, I was way off :)
[04:30:21] <SpallsHurgenson> is it 6 watts? I bet its 6 watts. That's a lot of electricity, right? Wow, six whole watts.
[04:30:20] <crutchy> 500MW is one typical coal-powered unit
[04:28:17] <crutchy> most people don't realize how much power comes out of a single base load coal plant
[04:27:21] <crutchy> wind turbines can provide at most hundreds of MWh, but coal provides thousands. to replace coal would infrastructure on a scale the world has never seen
[04:26:24] <crutchy> regarding coal, its used because its there, and is reliable source of energy. problem with new tech is that it can't (yet) replace coal as a base load generation workhorse
[04:25:23] <crutchy> despite a fascination with science and making stuff to facilitate increased laziness, humanity is still primitive. we're nothing like what star trek portrays, and likely will never be (notwithstanding genetic modifications). the seven sins represent society as a whole pretty well. politics, economics and technological development will likely never change who we are
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[04:16:23] <juggs> And also why we need to learn the lessons of the past and not just continue to repeat them ad-infinitum. Also why we need to break away with our fascination with digging shit out of the ground and setting fire to it to power us - that's clearly finite so the sooner we wean ourselves off that the better. But no, we're still running around playing proxy "holy wars" in the mid-east. The fuck is that about? This shit brings me to despair it really does.
[04:00:17] <Ethanol-fueled> that's the sad thing about old folks who've seen some shit. You never understand why until they're dead.
[03:57:32] <juggs> yeh, he didn't like to talk about it much. His crew took a direct hit which evaporated most of them and the horses, he crawled away with buggered hearing and survived to go on to be a GP. He was quite a serious chap in my memory of him. I think I understand why now.
[03:53:47] * Ethanol-fueled raises a glass of Cognac to Juggs' grandfather
[03:53:42] <juggs> wut?
[03:53:28] <Ethanol-fueled> holy shit juggs
[03:52:54] <juggs> My grandfather was in artillery in WWI dragging a cannon around in muddy fields powered by horses. Understandably he was deaf as a post - they didn't much go in for occupational safety and ear protection in that war.
[03:51:04] <juggs> That BAE site is now a housing estate :(
[03:50:35] <juggs> the noise from that Vulcan taking off was immense. Probably have a weakness there as it was developed and flown out of what was then a BAE site a few miles away as I was in my formative years.
[03:49:38] <Ethanol-fueled> they're good for long range and high speeds, as the Concord demonstrated.
[03:49:15] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs has a delta wing fetish
[03:47:52] <juggs> I always loved the Vulcan at airshows https://en.wikipedia.org
[03:45:23] <juggs> France's F3 Rafale-M is scary too - I think they managed to get it done mostly on time and in budget too.
[03:45:08] <paulej72> my gandfathers were a bit too old for the war and were in coal production
[03:45:00] <Ethanol-fueled> he had some pretty harrowing stories, like how his tail gunner was shot dead by German aircraft and how his pilot had to fly a B-29 back with 2 engines out
[03:44:04] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, my grandfather was in the AF and flew on B-29s, and he told us all that when it was new its bases has specialized burn treatment centers
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[03:43:36] <paulej72> functuion over form
[03:43:26] <paulej72> it was a reat plane but was ulgy
[03:43:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Straightforward design, but big as fuck.
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[03:43:02] <Ethanol-fueled> B-29 was pretty rad too.
[03:42:49] <Ethanol-fueled> except that I'm always right about aircraft.
[03:42:35] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, there's no need to apoliogize for aircraft fetishes.
[03:42:13] <paulej72> sorry misremeber the number again immeant the b29, the b25 was good looking as well
[03:42:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Haha Juggs, I liked the SAAB Viggen for that same reasons.
[03:41:14] <chromas> looks like pens and darts
[03:40:47] <juggs> I like the forbidding look of the eurofighter https://upload.wikimedia.org
[03:40:23] <paulej72> the nose of the b25 was ulgy
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[03:40:03] * Ethanol-fueled rolls up sleve
[03:39:58] <Ethanol-fueled> fuck you asshole.
[03:39:52] <paulej72> the b25 looked like shit
[03:39:49] <Ethanol-fueled> I loved that dual-rudder tail and the gin turrets.
[03:39:35] <Ethanol-fueled> I always liked the B-25s
[03:39:33] <paulej72> from a astetic point of view
[03:39:10] <Ethanol-fueled> B-17's rock.
[03:39:02] <Ethanol-fueled> oh wait, you said B-17, not B-1.
[03:38:49] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley - if that's true then you know nothing about warplanes.
[03:38:34] <paulej72> my favorite war plane is the b17
[03:38:31] <Ethanol-fueled> F-14s look badass.
[03:38:18] <Ethanol-fueled> They do.
[03:38:12] <paulej72> true but they look cool
[03:37:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Which is why most modern aircraft, especially air-superiority fighters, don't have 'em anymore. Instead they have thrust vectoring and adjustable canards.
[03:36:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Pauley, adjustable wings are one of those "ooh, shiny" things that ultimately make your machine less reliable.
[03:36:03] <paulej72> f111 had manual swepped wings iirc
[03:36:00] <crutchy> structurally
[03:35:54] <crutchy> aussies made a lot of changes to their f111 fleet
[03:35:32] <paulej72> yes i was thinking of the 14
[03:35:29] <Ethanol-fueled> maintenance hogs, and phased out rather quickly compared to other designs.
[03:35:08] <crutchy> feel sorry for any bad guy on the wrong end of an f-111 strike
[03:35:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Do ho hoooooooo!
[03:35:01] <Ethanol-fueled> > Awesome
[03:34:58] <Ethanol-fueled> > F111
[03:34:50] <crutchy> australia had f111's. they were an awesome aircraft
[03:34:28] <Ethanol-fueled> the F-15 is a fixed-wing aircraft. The F-14 or the F-111
[03:33:59] <paulej72> it might be the f14. i get them confused
[03:33:56] <crutchy> tomcat was a beast
[03:33:40] <crutchy> prolly referring to tomcat
[03:33:13] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, that doesn't even make sense.
[03:33:08] <crutchy> isn't that the f14?
[03:32:56] <paulej72> but the f15 has automatic swepped wings
[03:32:44] <crutchy> not a dogfighter like the f16 though
[03:32:24] <crutchy> actually not really slow
[03:32:10] <crutchy> and not very agile
[03:32:05] <crutchy> its heavy and slow
[03:31:56] <paulej72> JamesNZ: yes it was corrugated
[03:31:55] <Ethanol-fueled> I was lucky enough to touch it while serving in the United States Air Force.
[03:31:32] <Ethanol-fueled> The best air superiority fighter of all time is the F-15 Eagle.
[03:31:15] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy - that's only because Russkies spend their money wisely and on fewer prototypes rather than the pieces of shit that are the F-22 and the F-35.
[03:30:04] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 0303Ford Trimotor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[03:30:03] <paulej72> http://en.m.wikipedia.org
[03:29:49] <crutchy> ruskis make the best fighter jets
[03:29:16] <JamesNZ> Was that the one made of corrugated tin?
[03:28:40] <paulej72> ford tri engine was a popular airplane
[03:28:17] <Ethanol-fueled> they depicted Chinese as backstabbing pandas who had a prototype for a heat-seeking missile.
[03:27:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Cold war propaganda disney cartoon Talespin portrayed Russians as warthogs flying planes with 3 engines.
[03:27:09] <crutchy> fucking building entire cities with nobody in them
[03:27:08] <Ethanol-fueled> chinese, nah, not so much.
[03:27:01] <Ethanol-fueled> the russkies are awesome.
[03:26:58] <crutchy> and chinese too
[03:26:49] <crutchy> ruskis are good at building shit too
[03:23:13] <Ethanol-fueled> INjuns!
[03:22:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Motherfuckers pull out a scientific pocket calculator and bust out solutions to differential equations.
[03:22:47] <paulej72> my moms grandmother was Cherokee
[03:22:09] <paulej72> my dads side were not such eprecent immegrants so not so sur of the lineage
[03:22:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Krauts are wicked engineers.
[03:21:11] <Bender> karma - germany: 3
[03:21:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Germany++
[03:21:03] <paulej72> my moms family were from the polish sections of germany
[03:20:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahaha, you fucking Polack.
[03:20:19] <paulej72> polish, american indian, english or irish or something
[03:20:02] <SpallsHurgenson> mmm, unidentifiable meat from a street vendor!
[03:19:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Mutts are awesome
[03:19:44] * SpallsHurgenson eats dinner
[03:19:16] <paulej72> i have a bit of eveything
[03:19:15] * Ethanol-fueled is also a mutt...
[03:19:05] <Ethanol-fueled> A mutt of what?
[03:19:00] <paulej72> i am a mutt
[03:18:44] <paulej72> well if i was not so lazy i would just order replacements and have a better sleep
[03:18:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Are you Italian, Pauley?
[03:17:54] <Ethanol-fueled> sucks, pauley.
[03:17:38] <paulej72> it leaks too much and wakes me up from the noise
[03:17:13] <paulej72> t
[03:17:10] <paulej72> only when my mask needs replaced like now
[03:17:09] <NetCraft> ^ 03Patrick Stewart in the drive through - YouTube
[03:17:09] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.youtube.com
[03:17:08] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAHHA:
[03:16:44] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, does the CPAP interfere with sleep much?
[03:16:28] <paulej72> i got apnea too. got a cpap for that
[03:16:18] <Bender> karma - water: 12
[03:16:18] <JamesNZ> water++
[03:16:17] <juggs> Quiet possibly on either score E-F.
[03:15:58] <paulej72> i get sleepy when drunk
[03:15:49] <Ethanol-fueled> or ETHANOL WITHDRAWAL
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[03:15:37] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs: that sounds more like apnea.
[03:15:23] <Ethanol-fueled> I have been both jumped and have beaten up my friends while drunk.
[03:15:05] <juggs> I hate that lying in bed and getting a tachy moment just as I fall asleep... **GASP** BA-dump-dump-dump.. OK I'm still alive, time to sleep :D
[03:15:02] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, like me.
[03:15:00] <paulej72> pounding caffien headache
[03:14:55] * Ethanol-fueled is like mr. hyde without coffee in the morning
[03:14:48] <crutchy> alcohol tends to make me sleepy, but can make others psycho
[03:14:39] <Ethanol-fueled> agreed, pauley.
[03:14:31] <paulej72> too little coffee is like death
[03:14:31] <crutchy> prolly affects people differently
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[03:14:20] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: but he stoleded it!
[03:14:06] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, to much coffee is like too much meth.
[03:13:47] <Ethanol-fueled> arti, you mean.
[03:13:43] <chromas> we just need a two-minutes coffee++ from all the bots every night
[03:13:32] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: it was ar
[03:13:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 873
[03:13:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[03:13:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 872
[03:13:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[03:13:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 871
[03:13:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[03:13:03] <Bender> karma - spallshurgenson: 7
[03:13:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson-- #coffee hater
[03:13:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 870
[03:13:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[03:13:01] <Bender> karma - spallshurgenson: 8
[03:13:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson-- #coffee hater
[03:13:00] <Bender> karma - coffee: 869
[03:13:00] <SpallsHurgenson> coffee--
[03:12:59] <Ethanol-fueled> *gASP* Punch punch puches chest.
[03:12:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 870
[03:12:58] <SpallsHurgenson> coffee--
[03:12:39] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah pauley, you can feel it in your head. Sucks.
[03:12:25] <juggs> coffee gives me tachy and a tremor after 3 - 4 mugs. Red wine is also a no go for me - makes me burn up.
[03:12:22] <paulej72> really feels weird when youncan fell the missed beats
[03:11:39] <paulej72> some tachy too
[03:11:27] <Ethanol-fueled> that sucks.
[03:11:17] <paulej72> palpatations
[03:10:52] <Bender> downers of coffee are: ar: -365, JamesNZ: -106, swiss: -27, SpallsHurgenson: -21, crutchy: -4, NCommander: -2, prospectacle: -2, geotti: -1, chromas: -1, TheMightyBuzzard: -1, chimp: -1, AndyTheAbsurd: -1, unixpickle: -1, juggs: -1, DrMag: -1, ar_: -1, Azrael: -1
[03:10:52] <paulej72> !whodown coffee
[03:10:50] * Ethanol-fueled superventricular tachycardia here.
[03:10:42] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, you have an ailment?
[03:10:23] <chromas> evil was afoot
[03:10:19] <paulej72> although i still crave it
[03:10:18] <juggs> ar happened to coffee
[03:10:17] <SpallsHurgenson> somebody must hate the stuff even more than I do :)
[03:10:08] <SpallsHurgenson> whoa, what happened to coffee... wasn't its karma 999 the other day?
[03:09:45] <paulej72> have to lay off caffien as my heart does not care for it
[03:09:21] <crutchy> addiction is scary
[03:09:10] <crutchy> same here
[03:09:04] <paulej72> would get hooked
[03:08:53] <paulej72> too chicken-shit to start drugs. wolk
[03:08:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 871
[03:08:41] <crutchy> coffee++
[03:08:24] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley - so coffee and Mountain Dew, am I right?
[03:08:08] <paulej72> all natural
[03:08:06] <crutchy> maybe a glass of red once a month, if that
[03:08:01] <Ethanol-fueled> I bet pauley does no substances.
[03:07:56] <crutchy> i don't drink either paulej72
[03:07:54] <paulej72> nope
[03:07:37] * juggs looks around nervously
[03:07:36] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, then what do you do? Shrooms? Weed?
[03:07:22] <paulej72> i do not drink much unlike others here
[03:07:21] <Ethanol-fueled> voltron sucks. He's a bunch of animals.
[03:06:57] <crutchy> voltron ejaculates astro boys
[03:06:04] <Bender> karma - voltron: 1
[03:06:04] <crutchy> voltron++
[03:06:01] <crutchy> voltron kicks optimus prime's ass!
[03:05:51] <Ethanol-fueled> or was that Chrono Cross?
[03:05:41] <Ethanol-fueled> it's like in Chrono Trigger when Frog was possessed with the power of the Einlanzer and slew his buddy.
[03:05:34] <chromas> Bender is sober after drinking
[03:05:14] <crutchy> need to fill bender up with beer so he goes on a bender
[03:05:08] <Ethanol-fueled> it's hard not to become possessed with the Transformer's power.
[03:04:53] <Ethanol-fueled> the Cyberskin Transformer?
[03:04:45] <crutchy> slash must be behaving itself
[03:04:39] <chromas> he's possessed by the power of E-F's extension
[03:04:09] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, you're not like yourself. Are you intoxicated?
[03:03:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard has dismissed marijuana as the smokeable Jew, but man, pot rocks.
[03:03:51] <paulej72> dkdkdkkkdkkkkdkdkkd&d&dkdkdkkdkdkdkd&:kdkdkdk:&:kdkkddk
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[03:03:16] <Bender> karma - milton_friedman: 1
[03:03:16] <crutchy> milton_friedman++
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[03:02:56] <ethanol-fueled> Whoa, man. Pot rocks.
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[03:02:29] <paulej72> in the US
[03:02:26] <chromas> must be e-f's 'bot'
[03:02:21] <paulej72> speculators control gas prices int
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[03:01:28] <crutchy> lol
[03:01:21] <SpallsHurgenson> damn austrians and their kangaroos
[03:00:57] <crutchy> i tend to throw myself in with the austrian school. its proven itself far more than the keynesian fruitcakes
[03:00:16] <crutchy> the free market types are more in the austrian school camp
[02:59:54] <crutchy> keynesians are the ones that are all for economic stimulus
[02:54:00] <juggs> all good in theory
[02:53:01] <juggs> ahh - those economics types with their idealistic free markets
[02:51:50] <crutchy> the keynesian demand-freaks tend to forget about the supply side
[02:51:20] <crutchy> opec only controls supply, but that is still half the equation so its no surprise they affect oil prices
[02:50:32] <juggs> crutchy, the oil market spot prices are thoroughly rigged via OPEC. The parties involved have their spats from time to time and one or other will go on an over-production spree to drop the prices, knowing that which ever state is the dis-flavour of the month has higher operating costs. It's just another political game.
[02:48:40] <chromas> Heresy! Get 'im, juggs!
[02:48:26] <SpallsHurgenson> damn that Queen Elizabeth!
[02:48:23] <crutchy> funny how when QE slowed down the stock market topped out
[02:47:50] <crutchy> speculation of QE too :p
[02:47:11] <chromas> speculation of supply and demand
[02:47:00] * SpallsHurgenson finishes Mass Effect 1 and starts the sequel
[02:46:51] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: it just need a µSD card :)
[02:46:38] <crutchy> well, if wages were forced up it would affect prices
[02:46:26] <crutchy> or wages :p
[02:46:10] <crutchy> juggs, you probably right. i'm not right into studying oil prices, but it's all driven by supply and demand, not complaints
[02:46:03] <juggs> well I guess we now know what E-F gets up to in his spare time :D
[02:45:59] <SpallsHurgenson> crutchy: that better be one robust OS that doesn't need much patching (or it better have a lot of on-card storage :)
[02:45:16] * crutchy can't wait till we get OS-on-a-pci-card
[02:45:05] <juggs> E-F: your gas prices are falling because you're busy fracking the stuff locally. Petroleum / oil prices are falling because OPEC spot prices went into a tailspin due to one or more of the ivolved nations deciding to do some flooding of the market. US is not a member of OPEC (although it may have a little influence on some members)
[02:44:45] <SpallsHurgenson> isn't that basically then nvidia optima :)
[02:44:40] <chromas> that way when you swap to another VM, it get gt direct access to the card and whatever else you were running gets a virtual one
[02:44:39] <crutchy> screwdriver not included
[02:44:28] <crutchy> maybe just hotswap the whole card
[02:44:18] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: the hardware doesn't have to support it; just the os
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[02:43:59] <chromas> swapping too
[02:43:59] <SpallsHurgenson> hotswapping would probably be very accurate; wear thermal protection when removing the GPU :)
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[02:43:32] <crutchy> hotswap might work better for video cos you don't have to worry about crashed heads
[02:43:31] * Ethanol-fueled leaves to get more booze and smoke more pot.
[02:43:17] <chromas> (without screwing up the desktop icons and windows)
[02:43:03] <crutchy> wine is ok for a lot of things. starcraft works awesome
[02:42:58] <chromas> what we need is OSs to support hotplugging video cards
[02:42:46] <Bender> karma - virtualization: 1
[02:42:46] <chromas> virtualization++
[02:42:22] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: also you don't have errant wine processes leftover sometimes
[02:42:00] <SpallsHurgenson> honestly, whether CS or vbox, there's going to be a resource hit, and at least with virtualization you get a "real" windows environment, which cuts down on a significant number of compatibility issues
[02:41:56] <crutchy> true dat, but sleep when alive is good too
[02:41:51] * chromas has sc2 and d3; "I can't help it! People gave them to me!"
[02:41:43] <crutchy> lol
[02:41:36] <Ethanol-fueled> no crutchy. I will sleep it off when I'm DEAD. HAHAHAHHEEHEEHEHEHOOOOOOOOO!
[02:41:27] <crutchy> have some water and an awesome sleep
[02:41:18] <chromas> with maximum graphics settings
[02:41:15] <crutchy> sleep it off dude
[02:41:13] <SpallsHurgenson> even less of a reason for crossover then :)
[02:41:12] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll have to take a hike to the licka sto' and procure some more booze.
[02:41:09] <chromas> for example, D3 doesn't like to connect to the server but when it does, it works
[02:40:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Man, I'm drunk and want to smoke some pot.
[02:40:53] <chromas> The eveil Blizzard games run mostly fine (when they run)
[02:40:51] <crutchy> WoW runs natively on linux, no?
[02:40:31] <SpallsHurgenson> IIRC, WoW runs in VBox too
[02:40:17] <SpallsHurgenson> I doubt anything really 3d-intensive would work all that well in crossover either. I mean, CS14 is boasting that World of Warcraft and Civ5 work on their platform; these aren't particularly heavy hitters these days
[02:39:31] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[02:39:30] <crutchy> lol probably to some extent
[02:39:20] <crutchy> australia has small population on its side, and full ocean border
[02:39:08] <chromas> we pass the fuckings on to you!
[02:38:54] <crutchy> america is pretty fucked at a moments notice
[02:38:44] <crutchy> i dunno about that
[02:38:19] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: depends on what you're doing and how well virtualization passes 3d graphics support
[02:38:17] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, 'Straya is 1984ing themselves much more quickly than America.
[02:38:01] <crutchy> nod
[02:37:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Makes me wish I was an investor though....common-sense shit. Dump AAPL stock when Steve-o died etc.
[02:37:33] <SpallsHurgenson> are programs like crossover even worth it anymore, with virtualization becoming so easy to use and not being as (comparatively) resource hungry anymore?
[02:37:22] <crutchy> australia is probably affected to some extent by monetary policy in the USA and Europe, but at least we aren't artificially inflating our own currency
[02:36:56] <Ethanol-fueled> no, crutchy...have you heard of LIBOR?
[02:36:42] <Ethanol-fueled> it's economic voodoo.
[02:36:39] <crutchy> only in the USA
[02:36:32] <Ethanol-fueled> markets are rigged as fuck
[02:36:25] <chromas> it's twice as crossover
[02:36:22] <crutchy> markets are fickle no doubt
[02:36:18] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: You're just gonna have to trust me (or not) on this one.
[02:36:15] <chromas> it's double now; better try it again
[02:35:59] <SpallsHurgenson> huh, crossover 14... I think the last time I played around with that, I was using version 7
[02:35:52] <ciri> don't ask me!
[02:35:51] <crutchy> how do you figure?
[02:35:28] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, if you tell the media that a plague is wiping out your crop even though only 2 of your plants perished as a result, then the cost still goes up.
[02:35:21] <crutchy> not sure. it could be because there is more local supply
[02:34:44] <crutchy> if you get a plague that wipes out a crop, the price of that crop goes up
[02:34:37] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, then why are gas prices going down now even though the US is bombing a bunch of oil-rich countries?
[02:34:14] <crutchy> that's not rocket science
[02:34:09] <crutchy> if a country bombs another oil-rich country, the priice of oil goes up
[02:34:04] <Ethanol-fueled> "threat to supply" BAHAHAHAHAHAH
[02:33:56] <Ethanol-fueled> onsumer complaints could be factored in as a political reason.
[02:33:51] <crutchy> not becuase of politics
[02:33:47] <crutchy> that was because of the threat to supply
[02:33:31] <crutchy> but not because of consumer complaints
[02:33:28] <Ethanol-fueled> remember how high they were when Bush II decided it would be a good idea to invade Iraq again?
[02:33:21] <crutchy> on the macro level maybe
[02:33:01] <Ethanol-fueled> oH, but they DO, Crutchy. And they rise for political reasons as well.
[02:32:50] <crutchy> unless politics is influencing markets (which they possibly are to some extent)
[02:32:37] <Ethanol-fueled> surely it couldn't be because of big evil Russia.
[02:32:33] <crutchy> they don't
[02:32:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Then why do American gas prices always drop for political reasons?
[02:32:00] <crutchy> gas prices don't drop because people complain. surely you aren't that dumb dude
[02:31:59] <Ethanol-fueled> of course, they will rise after November.
[02:31:35] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy - people don't stop buying gas, but they complain...and believe it or not those complaints are heard. that's why gas prices have dropped before America's midterm elections.
[02:31:22] <crutchy> employees don't take risk like stockholders and founders
[02:31:12] <juggs> E-F: indeed so. We do have a low wage problem though. People seem to see nothing wrong with corporations paying entry level workers such shit wages that they still need state handouts while the corps make out like bandits on profits and pay out large share dividends. << That shit needs sorting out more urgently than anything related to immigration as far as I'm concerned.
[02:31:09] <crutchy> e-f, if their company loses money, they pay
[02:30:46] <crutchy> when gas prices go up, do people stop buying gas?
[02:30:44] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: so the rich do sit on piles of money. They are in a situation where they hire a financial advisor and just sit without creating value themselves.
[02:30:30] <crutchy> people will always buy shit e-f
[02:30:18] <crutchy> which goes into companies to buy machinery and hire more people (grow businesses)
[02:29:57] <crutchy> the occupy idiots fail to understand what profit is. rich people don't just sit on big piles of money. much of it is reinvested in stocks etc.
[02:29:51] <Ethanol-fueled> They raise prices, people don't buy their shit.
[02:29:36] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: they depend on people buying their shit.
[02:29:16] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs: it's called "Great Britain" and they are a multicultural paradise Bahahahahaha
[02:28:42] <crutchy> they take all the risk
[02:28:42] <juggs> I'm struggling to recall, isn't their some scandiwegian country that already has a blanket socialised payout to every citizen that is suffice to live on?
[02:28:37] <crutchy> whats their incentive?
[02:28:26] <crutchy> they wont though
[02:28:18] <crutchy> if you can't afford to live on your wage, reskill
[02:28:15] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: not really. It just means that the people on top profiting will have to profit slightly less.
[02:28:03] <crutchy> are are only what you're worth
[02:27:53] <crutchy> that's total crap though
[02:27:40] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: I hold the belief that any full-time job, 40 or more hours a week, should provide enough income for a single person's living expenses.
[02:26:57] <crutchy> if you want higher wages, you want higher prices
[02:26:47] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs: here in the southwestern USA there is plenty of demand for unskilled labor.
[02:26:06] <crutchy> people who demand higher wages are usually welfare bums not willing to work because they think they're worth more than they really are. most wouldn't pay a dollar more for their burger even if that dollar went deirectly to the worker that served them
[02:25:56] <juggs> E-F: UK unemployment is back to pre '07/'08 crash levels. The vast majority of immigrants are not sat around scrounging off the state here. The problem for unskilled workers is that there is quite simply less call for unskilled work in a modern society. That's a societal problem for sure, but it's not going to get any better as we improve robotics and automation - but we're in buggy whip manufacturer territory here.
[02:25:25] <Ethanol-fueled> we'll see, crutchy. A minimim wage increase is to be legislated here soon.
[02:24:33] <crutchy> *neck
[02:24:28] <crutchy> maybe, but then you'd be paying through the neexk at the supermarket
[02:24:07] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: I come from an agricultural community. Anybody will pick lettuce for 15 bucks an hour
[02:23:34] <crutchy> there's always fruit picking if nothing else. most fruit farms have to hire illegals just to fill those positions cos no locals are willing to work them
[02:23:31] <Ethanol-fueled> ....the fight is about lowering wages
[02:23:17] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, that's bullshit. Okay, it's not, because there are plenty of jobs....
[02:22:48] <crutchy> people who complain about there being no jobs just aren't willing to work the ones that are available
[02:22:35] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: I AM partially Mexican.
[02:22:27] <crutchy> jerbs aren't a problem anywhere
[02:22:19] <Ethanol-fueled> or to use MBA speak...what value to nonskilled immigrants add?
[02:22:01] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs: do you deny that's the truth?
[02:21:51] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, now you're sounding like a Mexican
[02:21:46] <juggs> lol - what next? "they're taking our jerbs!"?
[02:21:33] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy - boat people should be machine-gunned into the sea.
[02:21:11] <Ethanol-fueled> that sounds like something a baby-boomer politicial would say to justify fucking over the population-at-large.
[02:21:01] <crutchy> i don't have anything against boat people tbh. i just don't think they should be given immediate rights to tax payer dollars
[02:20:48] <Ethanol-fueled> bullshit, Juggs.
[02:20:38] <juggs> Because a great deal of the work age males were wiped out in the wars E-F.
[02:20:13] <Ethanol-fueled> oh yeah crutchy, I loved reading the news when your kind were rejecting boats
[02:19:51] <Ethanol-fueled> why is that, Juggs?
[02:19:49] <crutchy> <-- aussie
[02:19:44] <crutchy> there's also the war on boat people here
[02:19:42] <juggs> The UK has a long history of encouraging immigration - particularly from its former colonies - and particularly in the times following two notably destructive large wars.
[02:19:40] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, are you a Brit or Aussie? I always forget
[02:19:17] <crutchy> not sure how well it will work
[02:19:10] <crutchy> fortunately we have a slightly more conservative government atm, which is at least making token efforts to make it harder to access welfare
[02:18:40] <crutchy> nod
[02:18:34] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, you are correct. And that is a problem here as much as it is a problem on your isle.
[02:18:21] <crutchy> that are to blame
[02:18:11] <crutchy> its the idiots that dish out the money that isn't theirs to win votes
[02:17:52] <crutchy> people who take money that is offered to them aren't to blame
[02:17:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Which is what I do and why a lot don't like me.
[02:17:43] <NetCraft> ^ 03George Santayana - Wikiquote
[02:17:42] <juggs> https://en.wikiquote.org ... "Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
[02:17:36] <Ethanol-fueled> I am not trolling, I am telling the uncomfortable truth.
[02:17:21] <Ethanol-fueled> seeing people struggle in poverty while people living in the third-world and breeding recklessly take your tax dollars and live the life of Riley?
[02:17:05] * juggs whacks Ethanol-fueled - stop trolling :P
[02:16:54] <crutchy> i don't endorse welfare given to anyone... especially whites
[02:16:30] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs: does that mean you endorse the Brown Muslim welfare given to immigrants of Britain?
[02:15:51] <juggs> it's not that long since the brits were blockading and laying cannon fire on chinese ports to enforce being able to sell their opium shipments there. I don't think anyone has clean hands when it comes to such things.
[02:15:50] <crutchy> and drones
[02:15:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Whites have morals and values.
[02:15:03] <crutchy> if not directly, they're certainly helped by the DEA killing off all the competition
[02:14:39] <crutchy> they're prolly financed by the US government
[02:14:08] <Ethanol-fueled> and they will stop at nothing to violate every obstacle, every person, in their path.
[02:13:45] <crutchy> people are c*nts regardless of their skin color
[02:13:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Every mexican could be considered to be a violent retard.
[02:13:14] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: and you wonder why I warn you all of the Brown Menace.
[02:12:39] <crutchy> i've seen pics on liveleak showing what mexican drug cartels do to people
[02:11:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Some Features of the New CrossOver 14 - http://sylnt.us - running-apps-without-dual-booting
[02:02:19] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03Oscillator sync
[02:02:19] <Ethanol-fueled> http://en.wikipedia.org
[02:01:54] <Ethanol-fueled> got that nice '80s hard sync synthesizer riff
[02:01:17] <NetCraft> ^ 03TMNT Arcade music - Fight! (Boss Battle) - YouTube
[02:01:16] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.youtube.com
[02:01:15] <Ethanol-fueled> This will be the song during the fight:
[02:00:31] <Ethanol-fueled> should I go down the alley and pick a fight with a Mexican?
[02:00:19] <Ethanol-fueled> I want to fight.
[01:51:19] <chromas> scratch'n'sniff
[01:50:58] <crutchy> the stuff where i was is just corrugated sheeting. its exposed, but yeah as long as nobody messes with it i don't worry
[01:48:28] <juggs> generally asbestos cladding tiles and most other asbestos used in construction are fine until messed with - drilled, cut, smashed or w/e. Certainly wouldn't want to work with the stuff regularly, its dust does some nasty shit to the lungs.
[01:41:36] <Ethanol-fueled> no joke, we rolled a tin-can dinghy into the sandbar and watched motherfuckers get beat up
[01:41:01] <chromas> ef just likes it because it's shaped like a giant penis
[01:41:00] <Ethanol-fueled> and at that sandbar fights always break out because women show their tits and the men who love them start fights.
[01:40:20] <Ethanol-fueled> there's a sandbar where errybody parks their boats and we al drink.
[01:39:59] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, we go jam at the colorado for fun
[01:39:59] * crutchy would like to visit colorado river one day
[01:39:46] <crutchy> ooh colorado river
[01:38:46] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03Imperial Valley
[01:38:45] <Ethanol-fueled> http://en.wikipedia.org
[01:38:27] <Ethanol-fueled> the place I was raised (heart)
[01:38:17] <Ethanol-fueled> the highest rate of teen pregnancy in North America
[01:38:05] <Ethanol-fueled> the most polluted river in north America
[01:37:54] * Ethanol-fueled rocks deadly asbestos in the imperial valley
[01:37:50] <crutchy> mutated
[01:37:47] <crutchy> must be a different type of asbestos
[01:37:35] <SpallsHurgenson> DEADLY asbestos
[01:37:31] <crutchy> ke?
[01:37:19] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, what stake to turbine addicts have in a PHP guru?
[01:37:09] <crutchy> the entire building was clad with asbestos
[01:36:57] <crutchy> i walked along a turbine hall a couple of days ago
[01:36:42] <crutchy> hehe "This area could be safely accessed only recently after deadly asbestos had been removed"
[01:36:07] * Leebert hugs Ethanol-fueled
[01:36:02] <Ethanol-fueled> *click click*
[01:35:57] <Ethanol-fueled> UP AGIANST THE WALL, motherfuckers.
[01:35:40] <SpallsHurgenson> woot, America is twice as good!
[01:34:28] <chromas> weird; juggs gets /1/shared and I get /2/shared. Guess we only get twos in america
[01:34:22] <crutchy> and unfortunately it will. and we will be fucked. without electricity and supermarkets and refrigeration, most of the 'civilized' world will die off
[01:34:01] <SpallsHurgenson> the consoles in the background look more exciting to me
[01:33:19] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: we'll see when the shit hits the fan. :)
[01:33:19] <NetCraft> ^ 03BBC NEWS | In pictures | Battersea Power Station ( http://news.bbc.co.uk )
[01:33:17] <juggs> I want one of these... http://news.bbc.co.uk just because... dials n stuff!
[01:33:02] <Ethanol-fueled> like America's Mexicans :)
[01:32:56] <crutchy> useless is subjective. how useful are we at defending our own freedom?
[01:32:43] <Ethanol-fueled> durka-durkas are scum. The roaches of the world.
[01:32:28] <Ethanol-fueled> I agree that we are sheep, but some people are more useless than others.
[01:32:22] <crutchy> unfortunately
[01:32:16] <crutchy> you don't have to. its just the way it is
[01:32:05] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, I don't believe that.
[01:31:58] <crutchy> you, me, we're all the same... we are the sheep
[01:31:43] <crutchy> not really. they are the only ones in the world that know what its like to have to fight for freedom and survival
[01:31:37] <Ethanol-fueled> those are the ones better off dead.
[01:31:26] <Ethanol-fueled> goat-fuckers don't matter
[01:31:16] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, the only people mowed down by drones are goat-fuckers.
[01:30:52] <crutchy> in the mid east
[01:30:34] <Ethanol-fueled> why give up now?
[01:30:32] <crutchy> e-f, the only people that aren't giving up their rights are the ones being mowed down by drones
[01:30:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Come on, Brits. You are the motherfuckers with stiff upper lips, who didn't take shit from nooone.
[01:30:14] <juggs> what rights? don;t think we ever had any
[01:29:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Brits are awesome. Too bad they're turning into cucks giving up their rights.
[01:29:49] <crutchy> nod
[01:29:31] <juggs> probably wasn't the most pleasant place to live around when it was doing this all day..... http://palhire.co.uk
[01:28:58] <crutchy> they aren't environmentally friendly, but there has been a lot of development to improve them
[01:28:55] * Ethanol-fueled listens to "sheep"
[01:28:39] <crutchy> i like coal power stations
[01:28:30] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs: Because people are animals.
[01:27:22] <juggs> true - but that thing's only ~80 years old and was pretty much falling down. The four chimneys are pretty iconic though - pretty for a power station really.
[01:27:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Katy Perry shows her armpits for you.
[01:26:53] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy.
[01:25:08] <crutchy> lots of history in london
[01:24:38] <crutchy> they should make it into a museum about the industrial revolution
[01:24:08] <juggs> lovely smoke belching coal powered station bang in the middle of London... can't imagine why it end up decommissioned :D
[01:22:04] <juggs> Ahh - Battersea power station - think they turned that into bijou apartments now, or maybe office space
[01:21:12] <Ethanol-fueled> You've got to strike when the moment is right without thinking!
[01:19:54] <NetCraft> ^ 03Pink Floyd - Dogs [Full Song] - YouTube
[01:19:54] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.youtube.com
[01:19:39] <chromas> mostOf myPasswords looklikeThis
[01:19:37] <Ethanol-fueled> This song is depressing.
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[01:18:55] <chromas> sudo top
[01:17:51] <chromas> su: user top does not exist
[01:17:28] <SpallsHurgenson> password required:
[01:17:28] * chromas waits for the prompt
[01:17:23] <chromas> su top
[01:17:12] <SpallsHurgenson> try su htop
[01:16:55] <chromas> this isn't a terminal?
[01:16:43] <chromas> herp
[01:16:40] <chromas> htop
[01:16:19] <chromas> Fortunately, dst just ended so we can party now
[01:13:54] <SpallsHurgenson> although I will admit it is slightly less annoying these days then when I was growing up since all my devices and timepieces automatically change the time :)
[01:12:30] <juggs> I wholeheartedly agree Spalls
[01:12:07] <SpallsHurgenson> that's right, take that DST!
[01:12:01] <Bender> karma - dst: -2
[01:12:01] <SpallsHurgenson> dst--
[01:11:54] <Bender> karma - dst: -1
[01:11:54] <chromas> dst--
[01:11:49] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, outdated mechanism! down with DST!
[01:11:44] <chromas> top shows all processes and calls them tasks but top sucks
[01:11:30] <juggs> yay for daylight savings - just "gained" and hour
[01:11:21] <chromas> ksysguard shows more
[01:11:17] <chromas> htop only shows tasks I guess
[01:11:06] <chromas> dunno, crutchy; not sure what makes it a 'task' vs a process
[01:08:01] <chromas> !flippity floppity floop
[01:07:44] <aqu4> I got tails.
[01:07:43] * aqu4 flips a bubblegum covered penny on "systemd systemd"
[01:07:43] <chromas> $coin systemd systemd
[01:07:41] * SpallsHurgenson kills Ashley 'cause I need somebody with good tech skills to unlock all the loot-boxes
[01:07:27] <crutchy> !flippity-flop
[01:07:20] <crutchy> !flop
[01:07:15] <crutchy> !flip
[01:07:11] <crutchy> !coin
[01:07:09] <chromas> :(
[01:07:03] <chromas> $coinflip a b
[01:07:01] <chromas> $flip a b
[01:06:58] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: you can $flip
[01:06:40] <chromas> "If you can't decide then stop playing Mass Effect. The game is about personal preferances and choices. You can't make choices then this game is not for you. "
[01:06:33] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[01:06:32] <crutchy> how do i get number of processes?
[01:06:06] <chromas> :(
[01:05:59] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm...decision time: Ashley or Kaiden
[01:05:57] <chromas> Bender: join #github
[01:05:12] <Bender> karma of systemd is -14
[01:05:12] <chromas> Bender: karma systemd
[01:05:04] <chromas> Bender: systemd++
[01:04:54] <chromas> Bender: systemctl reload karma
[01:04:38] <Bender> uptime is 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours 52 minutes and 30 seconds
[01:04:38] <chromas> !uptime
[01:04:36] <chromas> !up
[01:04:29] <chromas> well check
[01:04:25] <ciri> not sure
[01:04:25] <chromas> how many processes?
[01:04:06] * crutchy needs systemd so that he only has 1 task running :d
[01:03:39] <crutchy> why do i have 129 tasks running :/
[01:03:31] * chromas plays 350 rounds of LEM
[01:02:52] <chromas> ooh, and Quattro, WordPerfect and gw-basic
[01:02:52] <SpallsHurgenson> <whew> that was a close one!
[01:02:04] * chromas packs up his awesome e virtual desktops and installs MS DOS
[01:01:21] <SpallsHurgenson> good god man, what are you doing? modern computers can't handle a load like that! keep it to a single thread, preferably at 8MHz or less!
[01:00:48] <chromas> htop says 78 Tasks
[01:00:31] <chromas> only have 202 processes running
[00:59:25] <chromas> I…I don't understand. Too many? What?
[00:58:45] <SpallsHurgenson> that's just its way of telling you that you have too many applications running; focus, man, focus!
[00:56:34] <Bender> karma - enlightenment: 0
[00:56:34] <chromas> enlightenment-- # for no window grouping
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[00:53:55] <crutchy> could be worse... i wouldn't recommend Scud Delivery Service
[00:53:49] <chromas> so they actually blew up houses in Canada, Alaska and Singapore before getting to mine
[00:53:15] <chromas> but dammit, I assumed it would be cruise missile delivery but they went with the cheapest, which also takes longer because it went through FedEx SmartPost
[00:52:04] <crutchy> the previous house was insured under the new house, which wasn't built yet, with the understanding that the new house will be insured by what could have been the old house if it weren't for your purchase of said dvd by the hellfire delivery service (tm)
[00:49:56] <crutchy> could also be Human Delivery Service... "we'll send your loved ones to heaven faster than anyone else"
[00:49:06] <chromas> Additionally, buy buying a new house, I already terminated the insurance agreement on the previous house, even though that happened after
[00:48:21] <crutchy> HDS Inc
[00:48:05] <crutchy> oh my. need a special linux-friendly hellfire delivery service
[00:47:43] <crutchy> oh yeah and i guess the insurer of the old house doesn't need to worry cos the fed will just print the money
[00:47:20] <chromas> but it's voided if I install Linux
[00:47:08] <chromas> new house comes with a five-year warranty
[00:46:57] <chromas> don't need no stinkin' insurance!
[00:46:44] <crutchy> *insured
[00:46:38] <crutchy> well, for houses that are insurance
[00:46:27] <crutchy> insurance companies will love that
[00:46:13] <crutchy> why buy a dvd, when you can buy a dvd and then a new house!?
[00:45:52] <crutchy> ooh good market strategy
[00:45:42] <chromas> I can buy a new house from Amazon :)
[00:45:27] <chromas> meteor package delivery
[00:45:20] <crutchy> ok so you may not have much of a parcel, or a house left
[00:45:14] <chromas> it's 'cause they watched Invader Zim
[00:44:47] <crutchy> amazon is going to deliver the same way the pentagon does; with drones and hellfire missiles... "the fastest delivery ever!"
[00:43:55] <chromas> oh wait a minute
[00:43:48] <chromas> yeah, not like it already delivers for Amazon, Tiger, Newegg and everyone else already
[00:43:19] <chromas> "Inserting themselves into this industry space would simply be another way for the USPS to expand their reach without instituting real reform, not to fulfill its mandate of delivering the mail on time to its customers anywhere in the country. This growth would work to push out already established private providers"
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[00:41:32] <crutchy> the US taxpayer has been slowly dying for years
[00:41:00] <crutchy> social security, etc
[00:40:48] <crutchy> and the federal reserve?
[00:40:40] <crutchy> and obamacare?
[00:40:31] <crutchy> so where's their complaint about the pentagon?
[00:40:00] <crutchy> taxayers protection alliance hah!
[00:19:11] <chromas> I dungeddit. usps doesn't get tax money
[00:18:49] <chromas> "Taxpayers Protection Alliance submitted complaints to USPS regulators when the plan was proposed, claiming USPS will unfairly distort the market."
[00:16:19] * chromas requisitions a larger mailbox
[00:14:40] <crutchy> post office to deliver groceries?
[00:12:11] <chromas> This is also amusing: http://www.wpxi.com
[00:10:16] <chromas> ~submit http://www.upi.com
[00:09:41] <crutchy> im kinda thinking blackmoores article is gunna be flamebait