#Soylent | Logs for 2014-10-22
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[00:00:11] <SoyCow6980> I've got a submission that has been approved for hours but hasn't appeared. Is that for editing or a bug?
[00:00:45] <Leebert> They get scheduled for later publication; check the publication time on the submission and you'll see it's probalby in the future.
[00:01:04] <SoyCow6980> thanks. I better go change my time zone settings
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[00:16:54] * SpallsHurgenson has heard it said that they built this city, built this city, built this city on rock-n-roll but I believe this to be false, as that is a notoriously poor foundation and no engineer would sign off on it
[00:19:14] <chromas> the engineers were replaced by the boss's nephew
[00:20:08] <SpallsHurgenson> so they forged the signatures? this is becoming more serious than I thought!
[00:20:25] <SpallsHurgenson> s/they/he/
[00:20:25] <SedBot9000> <SpallsHurgenson> so he forged the signatures? this is becoming more serious than I thought!
[00:21:30] <chromas> whatever it takes to replace the stone with rock-n-roll.js
[00:21:42] <chromas> it's the hipness
[00:23:44] <SpallsHurgenson> if you say so; I'm old so as far the only new hipness I'm interested in these days is made of tungsten :)
[00:30:04] <SpallsHurgenson> wow, even ciri didn't laugh at that joke
[00:31:01] <chromas> I only just now got it
[00:31:08] <chromas> I think
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[00:37:23] <SpallsHurgenson> truly, my humor is very sophisticated :)
[00:40:17] <SpallsHurgenson> I guess I shou;dm
[00:40:20] <juggs> my humour is so erudite NO-ONE understands it - I get a double laugh, first at the joke and then at the people who don't understand it, then I died lonely and all alone.
[00:40:38] <SpallsHurgenson> I guess I shouldnt be surprised the bot couldn't handle its subtlies
[00:43:16] <SpallsHurgenson> I can't spell or type tonight
[00:49:26] <Leebert> My jokes are for me only. If I laugh, that's all that matters. If other people laugh, well... that's a bonus.
[00:50:00] <SpallsHurgenson> my jokes are for everyone else; I like to make 'em suffer :)
[00:50:05] <Leebert> heh
[00:50:45] <Leebert> I did a pretty unique talk at work a few weeks ago which surprised even me... It was more standup comedy than technical content, but I got high reviews.
[00:50:55] <Leebert> I guess future talks will involve more funny.
[00:51:38] <Leebert> Who knew putting your audience to sleep wasn't a good approach to public speaking?
[00:54:44] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, that has two benefits: they don't ask any annoying questions, and they don't ask you to do it again :)
[00:55:07] <Leebert> Actually, I did get one question that was pretty smart.
[00:55:33] <Leebert> I was giving a "security 101" talk and one of the things I talked about was FakeAV, but I also stressed keeping software up to date.
[00:56:00] <Leebert> So the person asked: "How do I know that when I see a message that says a software update is available, that's true?"
[00:56:22] <Leebert> And I though... "Hmmm, IS there a rule of thumb?"
[00:56:46] <Leebert> I suggested that one can verify that patches have been released by checking the vendor's list of security advisories.
[00:57:45] <SpallsHurgenson> tell them to shut up and just blindly click OK like everyone else :)
[00:58:11] <Leebert> Later that day, I thought of the REAL best answer, which is: "If you get a popup that says a new version of Java is available, cool. Don't click it. Go to the known good website, download the new version manually, and install it manually. Same net effect.
[00:58:20] <Leebert> gah, parse error
[00:58:21] <Leebert> "
[00:58:41] <Leebert> That works, too. :)
[00:59:50] <Leebert> It really is tough walking people through this stuff. I emphasized that they need to think less "hackers" and more "con artists".
[01:00:03] <SpallsHurgenson> I can't even get people to stop clicking on links in email
[01:00:07] <Leebert> I think that puts them in a better skeptical mindset.
[01:00:34] <Leebert> Well, to be fair, these were people who showed up to the presentation of their own accord, so they were already well adhead of the game.
[01:00:46] <Leebert> Either that or wanted an excuse to not work. :)
[01:01:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IBM Pays GlobalFoundries $1.5 Billion to Take Over Chip Division - http://sylnt.us - you-get-what-you-pay-for
[01:01:43] <Leebert> Eh? Dupe?
[01:22:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> I already dug out the good stuff, can somebody else pull submission for the site: https://plus.google.com
[01:22:28] <NetCraft> ^ 03Daily link dump. Still no organization, still behind on reading stuff.…
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[01:41:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly after a while. i'm currently pretty busy eating cake and sitting on my arse.
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[01:49:06] <paulej72> mmmmm caaaaake
[01:49:23] <chromas> the cake is a pie
[01:50:45] <paulej72> mmmmm piiiiiiiie
[01:53:53] * SpallsHurgenson discovers cookies
[01:54:47] <JamesNZ> food++
[01:54:47] <Bender> karma - food: 4
[01:56:45] <SpallsHurgenson> I'd be half the man I was today if it weren't for cookies!
[01:57:15] <paulej72> he i resemble that remark
[01:59:45] <SpallsHurgenson> s/he i resemble that remark/hey we resemble that remark/
[02:20:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Paralysed Man Walks Again after Cell Transplant - http://sylnt.us - never-going-to-keep-me-down
[02:21:40] * chromas tries to come up with a lame joke
[02:22:20] <paulej72> can he get it up too?
[02:29:13] <Konomi> you know I thought I read that sentence wrong
[02:29:15] <Konomi> but i didn't
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[03:00:55] <geotti> URLs are parsed wrong, if I just paste them as text, without enclosing them in <a> tags. See e.g. here: http://soylentnews.org
[03:00:55] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN comment by Geotti (1146)
[03:01:12] <geotti> The second URL in this case was totally messed up
[03:02:54] <chromas> did the comma break it?
[03:28:02] <geotti> possibly
[03:28:03] * SpallsHurgenson gently tugs on kitty's tail
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[04:01:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why Your Coffee Tastes Good - http://sylnt.us - coffee++
[04:02:31] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[04:02:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 984
[04:02:43] <geotti> sencha++
[04:02:43] <Bender> karma - sencha: 3
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[05:20:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wobbling of a Saturn Moon Hints at what Lies Beneath - http://sylnt.us - shake-it-like-a-polaroid-picture
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[06:24:12] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:24:12] <Bender> karma - coffee: 985
[06:24:27] <geotti> !who coffee
[06:24:39] <crutchy> !whoup
[06:24:39] <Bender> nobody upped yet
[06:24:46] <geotti> !whoup coffee
[06:24:46] <Bender> uppers of coffee are: crutchy: 568, TheMightyBuzzard: 328, Blackmoore: 136, Bytram: 77, chromas: 32, crutchy_: 20, mrcoolbp: 19, MrBluze: 15, arti: 15, TK: 12, TheMightyLaptop: 10, paulej72: 10, mechanicjay: 10, AndyTheAbsurd: 8, Bytram|away: 5, mattie_p: 5, silverly: 4, Ethanol-fueled: 4, monopoly: 4, rand: 3, idetuxs: 3, juggs: 3, crutchy__: 3, TheMightyBuzzard|Book: - 1 more
[06:24:51] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:24:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 984
[06:24:53] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:24:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 983
[06:24:54] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:24:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 982
[06:24:55] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:24:55] <Bender> karma - coffee: 981
[06:24:55] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:24:55] <Bender> karma - coffee: 980
[06:24:58] <geotti> yep... ; )
[06:25:00] <crutchy> ping-o-death++
[06:25:40] <JamesNZ> The bots are rebelling!
[06:25:50] <crutchy> they are?
[06:25:57] <crutchy> ~kill bots!
[06:25:58] <exec> unable to find process with pid bots!
[06:26:43] <JamesNZ> Skynet is rising, yo.
[06:26:47] <chromas> !whodown coffee
[06:26:47] <Bender> downers of coffee are: ar: -200, JamesNZ: -88, swiss: -20, SpallsHurgenson: -19, crutchy: -4, NCommander: -2, prospectacle: -2, juggs: -1, chromas: -1, TheMightyBuzzard: -1, chimp: -1, DrMag: -1, ar_: -1, AndyTheAbsurd: -1, Azrael: -1
[06:26:56] <chromas> ^ E V I L ! ! 1 2
[06:27:10] <geotti> coffee-- gotta put me on that list
[06:27:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 979
[06:27:21] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:27:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 978
[06:27:22] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:27:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 977
[06:27:25] <chromas> coffee++ even though I don't drink it
[06:27:25] <Bender> karma - coffee: 978
[06:27:27] * crutchy incorporated a button into his work app to do a git pull from a gitlab repo
[06:27:33] <chromas> coffee++ # for great justice
[06:27:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 979
[06:27:34] <crutchy> gitlab++
[06:27:34] <Bender> karma - gitlab: 3
[06:27:38] * JamesNZ concretes his evilness even further
[06:27:38] <swiss> coffee--
[06:27:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 978
[06:27:38] <geotti> trac++
[06:27:38] <Bender> karma - trac: 1
[06:27:40] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:27:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 977
[06:27:41] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:27:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 976
[06:27:46] <swiss> gitlab (neutral)(neutral)
[06:27:46] <geotti> gitolite++
[06:27:46] <Bender> karma - gitolite: 1
[06:27:58] <crutchy> sourcetree++
[06:27:58] <Bender> karma - sourcetree: 2
[06:27:58] <JamesNZ> gitolite?
[06:28:00] <chromas> clithub++
[06:28:00] <Bender> karma - clithub: 1
[06:28:10] <geotti> cock++
[06:28:10] <Bender> karma - cock: 2
[06:28:23] <crutchy> sourcetree-- # for being windows and mac only :/
[06:28:23] <Bender> karma - sourcetree: 1
[06:28:24] <geotti> clock++
[06:28:24] <Bender> karma - clock: 0
[06:28:24] <chromas> clock fighting
[06:28:34] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:28:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 975
[06:28:34] <geotti> damn typos...
[06:28:36] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:28:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 974
[06:28:49] <geotti> wtf is sourcetree?
[06:28:52] <geotti> ms--
[06:28:52] <Bender> karma - ms: -1
[06:29:01] <chromas> xmpp-- # because most of the servers are written in java for some reason
[06:29:01] <Bender> karma - xmpp: -1
[06:29:07] <geotti> rational--
[06:29:07] <Bender> karma - rational: -1
[06:29:09] <geotti> xmpp++
[06:29:09] <Bender> karma - xmpp: 0
[06:29:11] <geotti> prosody++
[06:29:11] <Bender> karma - prosody: 1
[06:29:16] <crutchy> http://www.sourcetreeapp.com
[06:29:17] <NetCraft> ^ 03Free Mercurial and Git Client for Windows and Mac | Atlassian SourceTree
[06:29:17] <geotti> because Lua is a viable alternative
[06:29:41] <geotti> erlang++
[06:29:41] <Bender> karma - erlang: 1
[06:29:44] <geotti> ejabberd++
[06:29:44] <Bender> karma - ejabberd: 1
[06:29:54] <geotti> because erlang is even more oomph!
[06:30:08] <geotti> xmpp++
[06:30:08] <Bender> karma - xmpp: 1
[06:30:18] <chromas> my pants are a viable alternative to java
[06:30:20] <JamesNZ> lisp++
[06:30:20] <Bender> karma - lisp: 3
[06:30:26] <geotti> lisp++
[06:30:26] <Bender> karma - lisp: 4
[06:30:31] <crutchy> ~define xmpp
[06:30:33] * chromas peeks at suggestions
[06:30:37] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Xmpp: Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP) is a communications protocol for message-oriented middleware based on XML (Extensible Markup Language).[1] The protocol was originally named Jabber,[2...
[06:31:09] <chromas> crutchy: it's the only instant messaging protocol left
[06:31:28] <geotti> XEP++
[06:31:29] <Bender> karma - xep: 1
[06:31:33] <crutchy> raw_socket_messaging++
[06:31:33] <Bender> karma - raw_socket_messaging: 1
[06:31:44] <geotti> security_issues++
[06:31:44] <Bender> karma - security_issues: 1
[06:31:53] <geotti> home_baked_crypto--
[06:31:53] <Bender> karma - home_baked_crypto: -1
[06:32:11] <crutchy> raw_socket_messaging_over_ssl++
[06:32:12] <Bender> karma - raw_socket_messaging_over_ssl: 1
[06:32:14] <JamesNZ> Gah, watching videos of Hiroshima survivors is just awful.
[06:32:14] <chromas> alternative_to_sockets_api++
[06:32:14] <Bender> karma - alternative_to_sockets_api: 1
[06:32:15] <JamesNZ> war--
[06:32:15] <Bender> karma - war: -2
[06:32:16] <JamesNZ> war--
[06:32:16] <Bender> karma - war: -3
[06:32:17] <JamesNZ> war--
[06:32:17] <Bender> karma - war: -4
[06:32:18] <JamesNZ> war--
[06:32:18] <Bender> karma - war: -5
[06:32:28] <geotti> soap++
[06:32:28] <Bender> karma - soap: 1
[06:32:39] <crutchy> shampoo++
[06:32:39] <Bender> karma - shampoo: 1
[06:32:50] <geotti> chromas: seriously, prosody and ejabberd are not java and are teh awesum!
[06:32:52] <crutchy> fakepoo++
[06:32:52] <Bender> karma - fakepoo: 1
[06:33:06] <chromas> conditioner-- # because there's always 5 bottles for every one of shampoo
[06:33:06] <Bender> karma - conditioner: -1
[06:33:19] <geotti> hair++
[06:33:19] <Bender> karma - hair: 1
[06:33:19] <crutchy> but conditioner is byetter!
[06:33:21] <chromas> I'm checkin' 'em out; thanks :)
[06:34:04] <chromas> crutchy: we need a delphi jabber server <:D
[06:34:16] <chromas> delphi++
[06:34:16] <Bender> karma - delphi: 25
[06:34:19] <chromas> pascal++
[06:34:19] <Bender> karma - pascal: 41
[06:34:31] <crutchy> JamesNZ, check out some of the syria stuff on liveleak
[06:34:36] <chromas> ( o Y o )++
[06:34:36] <Bender> karma - ( o y o ): 1
[06:34:44] <geotti> chromas: I had good experience setting up prosody with jingle and jitsi-videobridge. encrypted video chat, vnc-like control of other boxes, and they even have a browser frontend
[06:34:44] <crutchy> there's some fucked up stuff goin on
[06:35:06] <crutchy> control_of_other_boxes++
[06:35:06] <Bender> karma - control_of_other_boxes: 1
[06:35:17] <crutchy> i use vnc at work
[06:35:22] <crutchy> vnc++
[06:35:22] <Bender> karma - vnc: 1
[06:35:25] <chromas> crutchy: you could use it too. Be sure to install fingerd
[06:35:28] <geotti> yeah, but that's for people you chat with, basically
[06:35:40] <geotti> like skype screen-sharing, just with control
[06:35:41] <crutchy> boxctl start figer
[06:35:45] <crutchy> *fionger
[06:35:45] <geotti> systemd--
[06:35:45] <Bender> karma - systemd: -5
[06:35:51] <crutchy> oh poo
[06:36:21] <crutchy> geotti, i just use it to manage vboxes on a hypervisor
[06:37:03] <chromas> ssh++
[06:37:03] <Bender> karma - ssh: 1
[06:37:09] * geotti has to support family and friends sometimes...
[06:37:12] <crutchy> if i had time and could be bothered i would make the hypervisor headless but atm the vboxes are just running in gnome :/
[06:37:18] <chromas> dropbear++
[06:37:18] <Bender> karma - dropbear: 1
[06:37:21] <geotti> omg
[06:37:22] <geotti> gnome--
[06:37:22] <Bender> karma - gnome: -1
[06:37:26] <geotti> gnome++
[06:37:26] <Bender> karma - gnome: 0
[06:37:28] <geotti> gnome3--
[06:37:28] <Bender> karma - gnome3: -5
[06:37:36] <chromas> Oh my god, I'm so sorry to hear that, crutchy
[06:37:50] <chromas> Are you alright?
[06:38:05] <JamesNZ> gnome3--
[06:38:05] <Bender> karma - gnome3: -6
[06:38:15] <crutchy> if i was a proper sysadmin and didn't have engineering stuff to do i'd run the vm's on xen or something like that
[06:38:24] <chromas> gnome3 is equal to the death of a loved one
[06:38:35] <chromas> at least use xfce
[06:38:36] <geotti> crutchy: have a look at openQRM
[06:39:12] <geotti> http://www.openqrm-enterprise.com
[06:39:13] <chromas> crutchy: if you can get them to change things around then you could extend your job security
[06:39:14] <NetCraft> ^ 03Open Source IaaS Cloud and infrastructure orchestration: Home
[06:39:56] <geotti> I have a nice little system, with openqrm and a plugin for client-self-management
[06:40:17] <geotti> they get credits and a visual editor, can drag around pre-configured images, hit commit and their vms get spun up
[06:40:55] <geotti> takes a couple of days to set up, but afterwards it's a breeze. And you can set up several backends, including amazon, kvm, ...
[06:41:29] <geotti> self_provisioning++
[06:41:29] <Bender> karma - self_provisioning: 1
[06:43:36] <crutchy> chromas, my work app might be offering me some job security. sysadmin isn't an overly sought after skill in a small engineering company full of nerds
[06:43:58] <geotti> you should rename yourself to devop then ; )
[06:44:23] <chromas> crutchy: time to port to fpc on linux :D
[06:44:32] <chromas> plus you can say it's cross-platform then
[06:44:40] <crutchy> engineer is more respected job title (not software engineer)
[06:45:14] <geotti> obviously...
[06:45:39] <geotti> "so what did you do today?" - "Uhm... I can show you, but do you read haskell?"
[06:45:58] <crutchy> and i like crunching numbers more than fixing computer shit
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[06:46:12] <geotti> "so what did you do today?" - "Sure, look: I took this magnet and connected it to a flux capacitor [...]"
[06:46:24] <geotti> virtual vs real
[06:46:38] <chromas> what? magnets are totally real!
[06:46:59] <geotti> yeah, I mean software-engineer vs engineer
[06:47:21] <crutchy> what did i do today? ... i so totally rated a little lathe chuck clamp thingy!
[06:47:49] <geotti> yeah, ok, there's exciting days and theres meh
[06:48:05] <crutchy> i like checking big frames with FEA
[06:48:09] <crutchy> thats more fun
[06:48:10] <geotti> but exciting engineer days usually beat exciting coder days
[06:48:40] <geotti> I've built this spaceship vs I developed a natural user interface
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[06:49:15] <crutchy> i used to design stuff for planes, but never done space stuff :(
[06:49:17] <geotti> still, they can't work without uzz. Mwahahahaha
[06:50:12] <crutchy> engineers have lots of fun with IT bureaucrats :p
[06:50:51] <crutchy> and when they get in the way we just set up our own servers using old workstations :D
[06:51:55] <geotti> yeah, well.. not on my network they don't ; )
[06:52:24] <crutchy> what about the little subnet that they didn't tell you about?
[06:52:37] <geotti> that's their own network without connectivity
[06:52:50] <crutchy> true
[06:53:11] <geotti> without support either .. ; )
[06:53:13] <crutchy> in house IT guys are usually OK. its when it gets outsourced that things turn to poo
[06:53:22] <geotti> yes
[06:53:24] <geotti> outsourcing--
[06:53:24] <Bender> karma - outsourcing: -1
[06:53:27] <geotti> outsourcing--
[06:53:27] <Bender> karma - outsourcing: -2
[06:53:27] <geotti> outsourcing--
[06:53:28] <Bender> karma - outsourcing: -3
[06:53:43] <geotti> economies_of_scale--
[06:53:43] <Bender> karma - economies_of_scale: -1
[06:53:48] <geotti> tricknology--
[06:53:48] <Bender> karma - tricknology: -1
[06:53:51] <geotti> politics--
[06:53:51] <Bender> karma - politics: -1
[06:53:59] <geotti> economics--
[06:53:59] <Bender> karma - economics: -1
[06:54:02] <geotti> communism++
[06:54:02] <Bender> karma - communism: 1
[06:54:09] <geotti> meritocracy++
[06:54:09] <Bender> karma - meritocracy: 1
[06:54:26] <chromas> Bender: list vars
[06:54:26] <Bender> vars plugin has the following commands:
[06:54:30] <chromas> Bender: list karma
[06:54:30] <Bender> karma plugin has the following commands: karma-whoup, karma-whodown, karma-whydown, karma-whyup, karma-good, karma-cfgsave, karma, karma-cfg
[06:54:39] <chromas> need a list of all the karmas
[06:55:03] <chromas> xlefay made us a dump for the bots to poke at once but it doesn't get updated or anything
[06:55:12] <geotti> !whyup coffee
[06:55:12] <Bender> reasons for karma up are: get some into mrcoolbp ASAP, good to the last drop, does it need an octothorpe?, for great justice!, for even moar justice!, is the holiness of grail-shaped beacons, to spice it up in here, I was ironically upmodding in the face of the downmodders despite not drinking coffee BEFORE it was cool, makes a good pinger, for provocation :p, for antagonism, - 1 more
[06:55:42] <chromas> !more
[06:55:42] <Bender> for great justice
[06:55:46] <geotti> systemd-- because it's worse than emacs
[06:55:46] <Bender> karma - systemd: -6
[06:56:07] <chromas> systemd++ # because it gets the 'conversation' going
[06:56:07] <Bender> karma - systemd: -5
[06:56:21] <geotti> AYBABTU++
[06:56:22] <Bender> karma - aybabtu: 1
[06:56:28] <geotti> ~define AYBABTU
[06:56:28] <crutchy> coffee
[06:56:29] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3AYBABTU: Short for 'All Your Base Are Belong To Us', or sometimes 'AYB' (All Your Base), stemming from a phenominon started from a poorly translated Japanese-to-English version of the Japanese...
[06:56:42] <geotti> for_great_justice++
[06:56:42] <Bender> karma - for_great_justice: 1
[06:56:55] <crutchy> coffee++ # because zoot is very naughty and bad
[06:56:55] <Bender> karma - coffee: 975
[06:57:41] <geotti> wumpus++
[06:57:42] <Bender> karma - wumpus: 1
[06:57:59] <geotti> https://www.youtube.com
[06:58:00] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Wumpus - YouTube
[06:58:33] <crutchy> xlefay++ # for dumping
[06:58:33] <Bender> karma - xlefay: 62
[07:00:13] <chromas> seth_green++
[07:00:13] <Bender> karma - seth_green: 1
[07:00:16] <SirFinkus> [23:59:45] xlefay signed on at 2014.7.16. 7:10:59 GMT-7 and has been idle for 1 month, 19 days, 22 hours, 42 minutes, 7 seconds
[07:00:18] <SirFinkus> ;_;
[07:00:36] <crutchy> ~last xlefay
[07:00:39] <geotti> wow
[07:00:47] <geotti> that's some idling time
[07:00:59] <exec> last privmsg for xlefay in #soylent: [2014-09-02 08:16:21] I need to eat some and get some sleep. I'll tty'all later ;-) Take care!
[07:01:21] <SirFinkus> ...maybe he died
[07:01:22] <crutchy> ~last FoobarBazbot
[07:01:39] <exec> last privmsg for FoobarBazbot in #soylent: [2014-05-16 00:31:07] thx, NCommander
[07:01:42] <chromas> He once was an irc god—like other gods, he's not around anymore
[07:02:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Hoverboard is Almost Here! - http://sylnt.us - $394-per-mm-of-air
[07:02:02] <SirFinkus> but how would we even know?
[07:02:10] <crutchy> wholly carp! no FoobarBazbot since may!
[07:02:25] <chromas> we should all bow our heads and pray to xlefay
[07:02:42] <chromas> crutchy: and yet he still hits the web site :(
[07:02:43] <SirFinkus> man, soylent has been around for longer than I thought
[07:02:54] <SirFinkus> time flies I guess
[07:03:03] <chromas> approaching a year
[07:03:09] <crutchy> xlefay++ # this is the only way i can think to bow over irc
[07:03:09] <Bender> karma - xlefay: 63
[07:03:37] <SirFinkus> we should make kline offerings to him
[07:03:53] <geotti> you can /me bow
[07:04:02] <SirFinkus> I'm sure I just attached a lightning bolt to my head
[07:05:37] <crutchy> ~last NCommander
[07:05:53] <exec> last privmsg for NCommander in #soylent: [2014-10-12 09:42:14] mmmm, full of botty goodness
[07:06:09] <crutchy> lol i remember that one
[07:08:26] <geotti> Jujyfruits++
[07:08:26] <Bender> karma - jujyfruits: 1
[07:08:38] <geotti> Jujyfruits++ because it's the triggerword
[07:08:38] <Bender> karma - jujyfruits: 2
[07:10:04] <crutchy> did that just launch a bunch of nukes?
[07:10:22] <chromas> snukes
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[07:22:23] <crutchy> anyone git-savvy here?
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[07:32:04] <crutchy> ah. penny dropped
[07:32:17] <crutchy> git_checkout++
[07:32:17] <Bender> karma - git_checkout: 1
[07:36:37] <geotti> ~define snuke
[07:36:38] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3snuke: A suitcase nuke designed to fit in a woman's snizz
[07:37:00] <geotti> ~define snizz
[07:37:01] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3snizz: vagina, love bucket
[07:37:07] <geotti> love_bucket++
[07:37:07] <Bender> karma - love_bucket: 1
[07:37:19] <crutchy> love_bucket++
[07:37:19] <Bender> karma - love_bucket: 2
[07:43:41] <geotti> usenet++
[07:43:41] <Bender> karma - usenet: 1
[07:44:01] <geotti> macserialjunkie++ for being the best mac forum on the planet
[07:44:01] <Bender> karma - macserialjunkie: 1
[07:44:16] <geotti> macserialjunkie-- for bein down again
[07:44:16] <Bender> karma - macserialjunkie: 0
[07:46:00] <crutchy> git++ # for being shell-based so i can drive it from php
[07:46:00] <Bender> karma - git: 1
[08:04:06] <geotti> php--
[08:04:06] <Bender> karma - php: 6
[08:04:09] <geotti> php_fpm++
[08:04:09] <Bender> karma - php_fpm: 1
[08:05:30] <geotti> guys, irssi vs x-chat... opinions?
[08:06:41] <crutchy> xchat has userlist buttons so it wins :D
[08:06:44] <crutchy> coffee++
[08:06:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 976
[08:07:03] <chromas> hexchat for modern xchat
[08:07:18] <crutchy> what's php_fpm?
[08:07:39] <crutchy> is it kinda like hhvm or something?
[08:11:04] <geotti> crutchy: it's the "standard" with nginx in front
[08:11:53] <crutchy> we've got a little vm on the side at work to investigate nginx+hhvm
[08:12:12] <crutchy> i don't know much about it, but another guy is mucking around with it
[08:12:36] <crutchy> should speed things up a bit
[08:13:32] <geotti> hhvm implements only a subset of php, no?
[08:13:45] <geotti> chromas: thx, I'll have a look at hexchat
[08:14:27] <crutchy> apparently its supposed to pretty much be a drop-in replacement, but i'm not 100% sure
[08:14:55] <chromas> python++
[08:14:55] <Bender> karma - python: 2
[08:15:03] * chromas passes obligatory tabs and spaces all around
[08:15:09] <geotti> i'm in between http://www.codeux.com https://github.com http://xchataqua.github.io . Adding hexchat for comparison
[08:15:10] <chromas> (but collects braces)
[08:15:11] <NetCraft> ^ 03Textual: IRC for OS X
[08:15:11] <NetCraft> ^ 03MacIrssi/MacIrssi · GitHub
[08:15:11] <NetCraft> ^ 03XChat Aqua/Azure
[08:15:16] <geotti> whitespace--
[08:15:16] <Bender> karma - whitespace: -2
[08:15:32] <geotti> braces++
[08:15:32] <Bender> karma - braces: 1
[08:15:34] <crutchy> sudo apt-get install xchat :D
[08:15:34] <geotti> closures++
[08:15:34] <Bender> karma - closures: 3
[08:15:48] <chromas> Quassel's nice but has no scripting
[08:15:57] <chromas> kvirc has scripting but is pretty fugly
[08:15:59] <geotti> apt-get: Command not found.
[08:16:09] <chromas> sudo pacman -S
[08:16:32] <crutchy> what's your poison geotti?
[08:16:35] <geotti> kvirc looks nice
[08:16:44] <geotti> os x
[08:16:49] <crutchy> ah
[08:16:55] <geotti> brew install irssi ; )
[08:17:17] <chromas> brew eh
[08:17:21] <chromas> coffee++ brew
[08:17:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 977
[08:17:23] <geotti> homebrew++
[08:17:23] <Bender> karma - homebrew: 2
[08:17:43] <geotti> sencha_with_lemon++
[08:17:43] <Bender> karma - sencha_with_lemon: 1
[08:18:05] <chromas> borderlands goty + bl2 for steam, $10 on newegg
[08:18:31] <chromas> bl runs on linux now
[08:18:32] <geotti> ~define borderlands
[08:18:33] <chromas> bl2
[08:18:34] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Borderlands: The greatest video game of all time, due largely to its insane amount of "badassness"
[08:18:41] <geotti> ~define fallout
[08:18:42] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3fallout: An exquisite game,set in a post apocalyptic world after a nuclear exchange. The games brilliance comes from music,atmosphere and the weaving of the overall story. It's bleak,depressing,eerie and g...
[08:18:50] <crutchy> ~define starcraft
[08:18:51] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3starcraft: A game that is no longer sold because everyone has it.
[08:18:55] <crutchy> lol
[08:19:03] <chromas> starcraft++
[08:19:03] <Bender> karma - starcraft: 3
[08:19:21] <geotti> ~define ultima
[08:19:22] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3ultima: One of the first. one of the most popular, and considered by many to be the greatest of Computer Role-Playing Game series. The Ultima series spans nine main titles, and four "spin-off" games...
[08:19:36] <geotti> ultima++
[08:19:36] <Bender> karma - ultima: 1
[08:19:42] <geotti> ultima_VII++
[08:19:42] <Bender> karma - ultima_vii: 1
[08:21:12] <geotti> what is borderlands, seriously
[08:21:19] <geotti> fps?
[08:21:59] <chromas> yeah
[08:22:05] <chromas> with rpg elements
[08:22:09] <crutchy> hmm apparently hhvm has "almost complete support for the entire PHP language as defined by its official 5.4 version, including the support for create_function() and eval() constructs"
[08:22:14] <chromas> kind of a first-person diablo
[08:22:24] * crutchy opens synaptic
[08:22:52] * crutchy has never played diablo, borderlands, fallout or ultima
[08:23:10] * crutchy is ashamed
[08:23:15] <geotti> ~define nethack
[08:23:16] <chromas> crutchy: diablo is kind of a top-down borderlands
[08:23:17] <chromas> :D
[08:23:17] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Nethack: I)A highly detailed roguelike game with an almost infinite replayability factor, usually played by intelligent people(because morons would turn it down because of it's bad grafiks). I)The best gam...
[08:24:13] <crutchy> dammit. hhvm not in debian repos
[08:25:04] <chromas> the aur has it
[08:25:11] <chromas> cum join the arch side, crutchy
[08:25:36] <chromas> we have ev-er-y-thing, just like the ymca
[08:25:50] <chromas> well, we don't have the young men for touching
[08:26:36] <geotti> only cocks?
[08:26:59] <chromas> ~define snotcaulk
[08:27:12] <exec> snotcaulk: unable to find definition
[08:28:04] <geotti> chromas: https://registry.hub.docker.com
[08:28:21] <geotti> err, I mean crutchy
[08:28:29] <chromas> docking++
[08:28:29] <Bender> karma - docking: 3
[08:28:50] <crutchy> geotti, it's on github too
[08:28:51] <geotti> cross_platform_software_repositories++
[08:28:51] <Bender> karma - cross_platform_software_repositories: 1
[08:29:12] <crutchy> https://github.com
[08:29:12] <NetCraft> ^ 03facebook/hhvm · GitHub
[08:30:39] <geotti> crutchy: you know docker, right?
[08:30:53] <crutchy> nah never seen it before today
[08:31:01] <geotti> s/know/know about
[08:31:01] * SedBot9000 offers gatti a /
[08:31:05] <geotti> s/know/know about/
[08:31:05] <SedBot9000> <gutti> crutchy: you know about docker, right?
[08:31:14] * crutchy clicks the 'what is docker?' link
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[08:31:44] <geotti> it's a nifty wrapper for several container implementations like lxc, jails, etc. (used to be lxc only)
[08:32:00] <crutchy> sort of like a process vm?
[08:32:02] <geotti> you have chef/puppet like buildscripts (less powerful, but useful nonetheless)
[08:32:10] <geotti> and a repository
[08:32:21] <geotti> like a process chroot
[08:32:45] <geotti> almost no overhead, so you have literally native speed
[08:32:50] <crutchy> there was something that arti mentioned about a thing that enabled you to run executable programs inside a web browser by converting them to js
[08:33:40] <geotti> emscripten in the browser node.js? ; )
[08:34:08] <geotti> running executables inside a web-browser... ts ts... kids these days
[08:34:22] <ar> http://en.wikipedia.org
[08:34:23] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03Caps lock
[08:35:01] <geotti> nice, should be an article, ar
[08:35:04] <chromas> :(
[08:35:13] <chromas> need to enable my capslock I guess
[08:35:27] <chromas> maybe use Dumlock for Compose
[08:35:29] * geotti has to change keyboard mapping first
[08:35:53] <geotti> the most useless big button on the keyboard
[08:35:53] <chromas> none of the lock keys are useful
[08:36:04] <geotti> well it's the only lock key on mine
[08:36:18] <chromas> laptops++
[08:36:18] <Bender> karma - laptops: 0
[08:36:37] <geotti> scroll lock is useful for going through the POST screen, when fixing peecees
[08:36:47] <geotti> labtops++
[08:36:47] <Bender> karma - labtops: 1
[08:37:03] <chromas> wasn't aware of that
[08:37:24] <geotti> or when you do dir in dos and don't know the /p flag
[08:37:28] <chromas> but then I've never seen a bios output more than a screenful of stuff unless it immediately clears it
[08:37:49] <ar> my laptop has no scroll lock
[08:37:56] <chromas> I guess a person could reboot over and over until they hit pause at the right time
[08:37:59] <geotti> my laptop has no bios : )
[08:38:05] <ar> i never seen post screen on my current laptop
[08:38:08] <chromas> mine has two. would you like one?
[08:38:35] * chromas emauls geotti a spare bios and also plinket for a pizza roll
[08:38:58] <geotti> yeah, sorry that was pause, actually.. true. not sure if scroll lock does something on bootup
[08:39:13] <geotti> ~define emaul
[08:39:15] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3emaul: A particularly nasty e-mail sent with the intention of berating, ridiculing, or otherwise demeaning the recipient - the white collar equivilent of being mauled
[08:39:23] <crutchy> most lappies hide the post screen, but i think there's usually a setting where you can turn off the logo to make the post visible
[08:40:00] <chromas> scroll lock is great for those times you want the arrow keys to scroll your spreadsheet while keeping the cell pointer centered
[08:40:19] <geotti> spreadsheets--
[08:40:19] <Bender> karma - spreadsheets: -1
[08:40:26] <chromas> rdbms++
[08:40:26] <geotti> vlookup++
[08:40:26] <Bender> karma - rdbms: 1
[08:40:26] <Bender> karma - vlookup: 1
[08:40:38] <crutchy> spreadsheets++ # engineer's best friend
[08:40:39] <Bender> karma - spreadsheets: 0
[08:40:57] <geotti> matlab++
[08:40:57] <Bender> karma - matlab: 3
[08:40:59] <crutchy> though admittedly i use TEDDS more than excel now
[08:41:17] * chromas formulates a raspberry at vlookup
[08:41:29] <crutchy> matlab is cool, but a little more specialized. not good for quick scratchpad comps
[08:42:21] <geotti> university_degree++
[08:42:21] <Bender> karma - university_degree: 1
[08:42:30] <geotti> for introducing me to matlab
[08:43:01] * crutchy did a whole unit dedicated to matlab at uni :D
[08:43:23] <crutchy> differential_equations--
[08:43:23] <Bender> karma - differential_equations: -1
[08:44:25] <geotti> is kvirc safe?
[08:44:54] <chromas> it's less likely to rape you during the night than dropbear but
[08:44:59] <chromas> dropbear++
[08:44:59] <Bender> karma - dropbear: 2
[08:45:03] <geotti> dropbear++
[08:45:03] <Bender> karma - dropbear: 3
[08:45:11] <crutchy> dropbewbs++
[08:45:11] <Bender> karma - dropbewbs: 1
[08:45:20] <chromas> yeah, why hasn't everyone jumped to dropbear?
[08:45:27] <chromas> maybe it's got holes too
[08:45:37] * geotti doesn't feel like running it in a jail
[08:45:55] <chromas> I don't think kvirc's been updated in a while though
[08:46:01] * geotti didn't feel a need to replace opensshd
[08:46:06] <crutchy> ~define kvirc
[08:46:13] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Kvirc: KVIrc is a graphical IRC client for Linux, Unix, Mac OS and Windows. The name is an acronym of K Visual IRC in which the K stands for a dependency to KDE, which became optional from version 2.0.0.[2]...
[08:47:01] <geotti> yeah, 2013 last binary for os x
[08:47:03] <crutchy> why would kvirc not be safe? just out of curiosity?
[08:47:13] <crutchy> is xchat safe?
[08:47:24] <geotti> because it sounds a bit like mirc, which is terrible
[08:47:26] <geotti> mirc--
[08:47:26] <Bender> karma - mirc: -4
[08:47:41] <chromas> mirc--
[08:47:41] <Bender> karma - mirc: -5
[08:47:42] <chromas> ii++
[08:47:42] <Bender> karma - ii: 7
[08:47:44] <geotti> dunno, I guess irssi is, more or less
[08:47:55] <chromas> bitchx++
[08:47:55] <Bender> karma - bitchx: 3
[08:48:10] * geotti 's been spending a lot more time in irc this year than in the last 8+ years combined
[08:48:18] <geotti> bitchx++
[08:48:18] <Bender> karma - bitchx: 4
[08:48:39] <crutchy> dude: doctor, i think i might be a homosexual, doctor: how can you tell?
[08:48:40] <crutchy> ~rainbow RAINBOW!
[08:48:41] <exec> 00,02R00,06A00,04I00,07N00,08B00,09O00,12W00,02!
[08:49:02] <chromas> ~rainbow ~rainbow ~rainbow
[08:49:02] <exec> 00,08~00,09r00,12a00,02i00,06n00,04b00,07o00,08w00,09 00,12~00,02r00,06a00,04i00,07n00,08b00,09o00,12w
[08:49:11] <geotti> the pace rainbow lacks blue
[08:49:15] <chromas> color codes ruin it
[08:49:27] * geotti lives close to the gay people district
[08:49:29] <chromas> shitty color codes invented by mirc, by the way
[08:49:36] <geotti> mirc++
[08:49:36] <Bender> karma - mirc: -4
[08:49:44] <geotti> for adding color to our lives
[08:49:48] <crutchy> geotti, besides a curious half hour visit to freenode#debian last year, soylent is my first real foray into irc
[08:49:54] <chromas> ircle did it first and better
[08:50:08] <geotti> mirc-- for copying ircle
[08:50:08] <Bender> karma - mirc: -5
[08:50:45] <geotti> irc was my second home back in the day
[08:50:49] <crutchy> soylent++ # for exposing me to the wonderful world of automated jibberish :D
[08:50:49] <Bender> karma - soylent: 1
[08:50:53] <geotti> but it's been a while
[08:51:05] <chromas> public_exposure++
[08:51:05] <Bender> karma - public_exposure: 1
[08:51:09] <chromas> pubic_exposure++
[08:51:09] <Bender> karma - pubic_exposure: 1
[08:51:13] <geotti> public_agent++
[08:51:13] <Bender> karma - public_agent: 1
[08:51:25] <crutchy> agent_smith++
[08:51:25] <Bender> karma - agent_smith: 1
[08:51:26] <geotti> pubic_clock++
[08:51:26] <Bender> karma - pubic_clock: 1
[08:51:47] <crutchy> !stats
[08:51:47] <Bender> creating stats for channel #Soylent (Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970)
[08:52:29] <chromas> haven't done that in a while
[08:52:42] <crutchy> hmm. i don't think it works any more :(
[08:52:57] <crutchy> ~stats
[08:53:17] <geotti> !g irssi vs bitchx
[08:53:18] <ciri> 43,200 results | Good IRC chat client.... - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community @ https://thetfp.com | Urban Dictionary: BitchX @ http://www.urbandictionary.com | Irssi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia @ http://en.wikipedia.org | Themes - Irssi - The client of the future @
[08:53:19] <ciri> http://www.irssi.org | Console IRC Clients - The Linux Documentation Project @ http://tldp.org
[08:53:58] * geotti is still unsure what to choose
[08:55:14] <geotti> LOL: "BitchX is the most popular IRC client among Unix systems. You can also use it on Windows, but if you had a Picasso painting, would you put it in the bathroom?"
[08:56:06] <chromas> it's sad that it died
[08:56:12] * chromas brushes back a tear
[08:56:27] <geotti> it did?
[08:56:58] <chromas> hasn't been updated in years
[08:58:15] <geotti> 2 years on github
[08:58:15] <ciri> 3
[08:58:35] <geotti> ciri: 2.5
[08:58:59] <chromas> ciri's a genius but can he count to potato?
[08:59:23] <crutchy> toejam, pants, acorn, potato! :D <- see i can!
[08:59:58] <chromas> yeah it's getting chilly here lately
[09:00:00] <chromas> pants++
[09:00:00] <Bender> karma - pants: -2
[09:00:13] <geotti> northern_hemisphere++
[09:00:13] <Bender> karma - northern_hemisphere: 1
[09:00:23] <geotti> wool++
[09:00:23] <Bender> karma - wool: 1
[09:00:32] <crutchy> northern_hemisphere_polution--
[09:00:32] <Bender> karma - northern_hemisphere_polution: -1
[09:00:46] <geotti> motherland++
[09:00:46] <Bender> karma - motherland: 1
[09:01:04] <geotti> corporations--
[09:01:04] <Bender> karma - corporations: 0
[09:01:12] <geotti> !whoup corporations
[09:01:12] <Bender> uppers of corporations are: swiss: 1
[09:01:16] <geotti> ...
[09:01:16] <crutchy> though admittedly per capita australia is pretty bad at polluting
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[09:01:46] <geotti> pretty bad at diplomacy too: http://www.cnn.com
[09:02:15] <crutchy> meh. its good for publicity, esp since nobody else will bat an eyelid at putin
[09:02:25] <chromas> "oh yeah? Well, YOU'RE immature!"
[09:02:28] <geotti> lol
[09:02:29] <ciri> hahaha
[09:02:33] <crutchy> politicians are stupid
[09:02:43] <geotti> not really
[09:02:47] <geotti> sheeple are stupid
[09:02:54] <crutchy> politicians are sheeple
[09:03:02] <geotti> and top-politicians are good showmen
[09:03:08] <geotti> ~define allegory of the cave
[09:03:13] <crutchy> like abbott :p
[09:03:14] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Allegory_of_the_cave: The Allegory of the Cave (also titled Analogy of the Cave, Plato's Cave or Parable of the Cave) is presented by the Greek philosopher Plato in his work The Republic (514a–520a) to compare "...the ef...
[09:03:37] <geotti> corporations--
[09:03:37] <Bender> karma - corporations: -1
[09:03:50] <geotti> corporate_interests--
[09:03:50] <Bender> karma - corporate_interests: -1
[09:04:10] <geotti> NGOs--
[09:04:10] <Bender> karma - ngos: -1
[09:04:23] <crutchy> smes++
[09:04:23] <Bender> karma - smes: 1
[09:04:25] <geotti> geopolitics--
[09:04:26] <Bender> karma - geopolitics: -1
[09:04:31] <geotti> smes++
[09:04:31] <Bender> karma - smes: 2
[09:04:36] <geotti> freelancers++
[09:04:36] <Bender> karma - freelancers: 1
[09:04:48] <crutchy> SMEs make the world go 'round
[09:04:57] <geotti> locally_sourced++
[09:04:57] <Bender> karma - locally_sourced: 1
[09:04:59] <geotti> outsourcing--
[09:04:59] <Bender> karma - outsourcing: -4
[09:05:04] <geotti> m'key++
[09:05:13] <crutchy> it turns sour when companies hop into bed with governments
[09:05:31] <geotti> history_repeating--
[09:05:31] <Bender> karma - history_repeating: -1
[09:05:40] <crutchy> non_competitive_government_contracts--
[09:05:40] <Bender> karma - non_competitive_government_contracts: -1
[09:06:04] <geotti> communal_self_determination++
[09:06:04] <Bender> karma - communal_self_determination: 1
[09:06:09] <geotti> comcast--
[09:06:09] <Bender> karma - comcast: -5
[09:06:18] <crutchy> debian++
[09:06:18] <Bender> karma - debian: 33
[09:06:23] <geotti> debian++
[09:06:23] <Bender> karma - debian: 34
[09:06:25] <geotti> systemd--
[09:06:25] <Bender> karma - systemd: -6
[09:06:48] <crutchy> redhat-- # for hopping in bed with government
[09:06:48] <Bender> karma - redhat: -1
[09:07:09] <geotti> redhat-- for being redhat
[09:07:09] <Bender> karma - redhat: -2
[09:07:19] <crutchy> redhat used to be ok
[09:07:22] <crutchy> years ago
[09:07:28] <chromas> archlinux++
[09:07:28] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 57
[09:07:35] * geotti doesn't use it since 5.something
[09:08:19] <crutchy> old_redhat++ # for introducing the world to elightenment :)
[09:08:19] <Bender> karma - old_redhat: 1
[09:08:38] <geotti> epiphany++
[09:08:38] <Bender> karma - epiphany: 1
[09:08:53] <crutchy> the browser or the boulderdash clone?
[09:09:18] <geotti> boulderdash++
[09:09:18] <Bender> karma - boulderdash: 2
[09:09:20] <crutchy> meh. either is acceptable :p
[09:09:24] <crutchy> epiphany++
[09:09:24] <Bender> karma - epiphany: 2
[09:09:39] <geotti> gnome3--
[09:09:39] <Bender> karma - gnome3: -7
[09:10:14] <geotti> you think systemd chose pacman due to its name and their mission?
[09:10:25] <geotti> openrc++
[09:10:25] <Bender> karma - openrc: 2
[09:10:40] <chromas> pacman is arch's package amanger
[09:10:51] <chromas> ~define amanger
[09:10:54] <chromas> awayina
[09:11:03] <exec> amanger: unable to find definition
[09:11:58] <chromas> :( fpc won't take high unicode chars in a set
[09:12:19] <chromas> I wonder if I can make a set of 4-byte chars
[09:13:02] <geotti> what, kvirc did video chat?!?
[09:15:24] <chromas> it also does avatars and multiple windows
[09:15:26] <crutchy> can fpc do ansichars?
[09:15:57] <geotti> avatars--
[09:15:57] <Bender> karma - avatars: -1
[09:16:04] <geotti> kvirc--
[09:16:04] <Bender> karma - kvirc: -1
[09:16:10] <chromas> you don't have to set one
[09:16:18] <geotti> just for supporting it
[09:16:23] <chromas> quassel++
[09:16:23] <Bender> karma - quassel: 2
[09:16:27] <crutchy> sorry i mean widechar?
[09:16:28] <geotti> kvirc++ for video, though
[09:16:28] <Bender> karma - kvirc: 0
[09:16:38] <geotti> that's remarkable
[09:16:48] <crutchy> ansichar=8 bit, widechar=16 bit
[09:16:48] * geotti has a closer look at quassel. Again.
[09:16:53] <chromas> 'able
[09:16:57] <chromas> ^ basic
[09:17:07] <chromas> REM arkable :D
[09:18:01] <geotti> quassel looks good, but there's something fishy about it
[09:18:35] <chromas> fish++ for being awesome
[09:18:35] <Bender> karma - fish: 7
[09:18:47] <chromas> fish++ (the shell, but also the food)
[09:18:47] <Bender> karma - fish: 8
[09:19:23] <geotti> ~define fish
[09:19:24] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3fish: An animal that lives in the water and swims. They might kill you in some instances.
[09:21:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Americans Becoming Less Religious, but Want More Religious Influence in Politics? - http://sylnt.us - hypocritical-or-just-confused-by-the-survey
[09:22:22] <chromas> What that means is the participants said their representatives can go to hell
[09:23:06] <geotti> less religious... tell that to the bible thumpers
[09:23:53] <geotti> The wiser head gives in. And since the wiser head gives in, the dump rule the world.
[09:24:05] <geotti> s/dump/dumb/
[09:24:05] <SedBot9000> <gatti> The wiser head gives in. And since the wiser head gives in, the dumb rule the world.
[09:24:17] <geotti> gatti yourself, SedBot9000
[09:26:06] <SedBot9000> privmsg #Soylent Har har, geotti!
[09:26:20] <SedBot9000> herp
[09:26:59] <SedBot9000> Guess it depends on which pipe is used
[09:29:00] <geotti> ~define herp derp
[09:29:06] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Herp_derp: This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference.
[09:29:12] <geotti> wow
[09:29:16] <chromas> deletionists--
[09:29:17] <Bender> karma - deletionists: -2
[09:29:25] <chromas> wait, I want that karma deleted!
[09:31:23] <geotti> !g why quassel sucks
[09:31:24] <ciri> 139,000 results | Hades Blag: irssi vs. Quassel, or There and Back Again @ http://hades.name | Quassel is useless - Ubuntu Forums @ http://ubuntuforums.org | Quasseldroid @ http://quasseldroid.iskrembilen.com | Quassel and Konversation - Ubuntu Mailing Lists @ https://lists.ubuntu.com
[09:31:25] <ciri> | Quassel and Konversation - Ubuntu Mailing Lists @ https://lists.ubuntu.com
[09:32:37] <chromas> no results
[09:33:39] <crutchy> madeon++
[09:33:39] <Bender> karma - madeon: 1
[09:33:46] <geotti> madeon++
[09:33:46] <Bender> karma - madeon: 2
[09:33:50] <geotti> what music do you listen to?
[09:33:51] <geotti> madeon
[09:34:04] <crutchy> atm its madeon
[09:34:20] * chromas currently has one of the Terran songs from Starcraft going on Pandora
[09:34:30] <crutchy> ooh yeah i have some of that
[09:34:32] <geotti> starcraft--
[09:34:32] <Bender> karma - starcraft: 2
[09:34:41] <geotti> command_and_conquer++
[09:34:41] <Bender> karma - command_and_conquer: 1
[09:34:41] <crutchy> and the menu and win tracks
[09:34:43] <SirFinkus> fish++
[09:34:44] <Bender> karma - fish: 9
[09:34:44] <chromas> nigga what?!
[09:34:48] <chromas> starcraft++
[09:34:48] <Bender> karma - starcraft: 3
[09:34:57] <geotti> chess++
[09:34:57] <Bender> karma - chess: 1
[09:35:03] <crutchy> medics++ # because they're wet and ready
[09:35:04] <Bender> karma - medics: 1
[09:35:07] <geotti> homm++
[09:35:07] <Bender> karma - homm: 1
[09:35:28] <geotti> starcraft--
[09:35:28] <Bender> karma - starcraft: 2
[09:35:59] <crutchy> marines++ # they know they can't get enough of the chicken-shit outfit
[09:35:59] <Bender> karma - marines: 1
[09:36:30] <crutchy> zerglings++ # they're like ammo with legs
[09:36:30] <Bender> karma - zerglings: 1
[09:39:09] <chromas> "I am back to irssi now. It uses about five times less RAM"
[09:39:11] <chromas> what
[09:40:06] <chromas> So multiply quassel's ram usage by five, then subtract that from irssi's usage
[09:40:37] <geotti> lol
[09:40:46] <geotti> well it's a terminal app
[09:40:50] <geotti> app
[09:40:55] * geotti punches himself in the face
[09:41:12] <chromas> terminal apps use negative ram. cool :D
[09:41:27] <chromas> would be nice for quassel to have scripts and real search
[09:41:37] <chromas> but then I can always bust out an sql query
[09:42:27] <chromas> oh shit, I should set up a stats page, so I'll fit in with the other bots
[09:42:35] <chromas> s/page/script/
[09:42:35] <SedBot9000> <chromas> oh shit, I should set up a stats script, so I'll fit in with the other bots
[09:45:17] <chromas> oh hey, there's another SedBot?
[09:45:21] <chromas> but it's not in a channel
[09:47:11] <chromas> doesn't reply to invites :(
[09:47:13] <geotti> quassel doesn't have scripts?
[09:47:25] <chromas> that page says it does; I've never seen anything about it
[09:47:46] <chromas> it's got aliases that don't seem to do anything
[09:48:11] <geotti> omg, habrahabr switched to /. beta
[09:48:35] <chromas> beta-- ew
[09:48:35] <Bender> karma - beta: -17
[09:49:04] <geotti> what about weechat?
[09:49:19] <geotti> it runs on hurd
[09:49:20] <geotti> hurd++
[09:49:20] <Bender> karma - hurd: 2
[09:49:22] <chromas> never used it
[09:49:26] <geotti> !whoup hurd
[09:49:26] <Bender> uppers of hurd are: geotti: 1, Konomi: 1
[09:49:31] <geotti> Konomi++
[09:49:31] <Bender> karma - konomi: 26
[09:49:47] <chromas> what was that one puts its url in the title? that was fun
[09:49:55] <Konomi> kay then
[09:50:25] <geotti> huh?
[09:50:30] <geotti> ~define weechat
[09:50:36] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Weechat: WeeChat (Wee Enhanced Environment for Chat) is a free and open-source Internet Relay Chat client, which is designed to be light and fast. It is released under the terms of the GNU General Public Licen...
[09:50:56] <geotti> extensible with C, Python, Perl, Ruby, Lua, Tcl and Scheme
[09:50:59] <geotti> scheme++
[09:50:59] <Bender> karma - scheme: 1
[09:51:03] <geotti> hurd++
[09:51:03] <Bender> karma - hurd: 3
[09:51:12] <chromas> gunoo
[09:51:13] <crutchy> ((((((((scheme))))))))++
[09:51:25] <geotti> closures+
[09:51:36] <geotti> s/+/++/
[09:51:36] <SedBot9000> <geotti> closures++
[09:51:48] <geotti> right...
[09:51:50] <geotti> closures++
[09:51:50] <Bender> karma - closures: 4
[09:52:25] <crutchy> riding_a_toaster++
[09:52:25] <Bender> karma - riding_a_toaster: 1
[09:52:42] <geotti> riding_a_toaster_that_runs_linux++
[09:52:42] <Bender> karma - riding_a_toaster_that_runs_linux: 1
[09:53:22] <geotti> looks like quassel, just in a terminal
[10:00:46] <geotti> ~define smuxi
[10:00:53] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Smuxi: Smuxi is a cross-platform IRC client for the GNOME desktop inspired by Irssi. It pioneered the concept of separating the frontend client from the backend engine which manages connections to IRC server...
[10:01:20] <geotti> the rabbit hole runs deep
[10:01:47] <geotti> GTK--
[10:01:47] <Bender> karma - gtk: -1
[10:01:50] <geotti> so no
[10:02:08] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[10:02:09] <Bender> karma - fedora: 36
[10:02:10] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[10:02:10] <Bender> karma - fedora: 37
[10:02:11] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[10:02:11] <Bender> karma - fedora: 38
[10:02:16] <geotti> systemd--
[10:02:16] <Bender> karma - systemd: -7
[10:02:18] <geotti> systemd--
[10:02:18] <Bender> karma - systemd: -8
[10:02:19] <geotti> systemd--
[10:02:19] <Bender> karma - systemd: -9
[10:02:34] <JamesNZ> geotti: OOC, why don't you like systemd?
[10:02:53] <geotti> because it wants to replace the GNU in GNU/Linux
[10:03:28] <JamesNZ> Isn't it under the GPL?
[10:03:59] * JamesNZ sees that it is
[10:04:14] <geotti> that doesn't change the statement
[10:04:33] <JamesNZ> What does the statement mean? :)
[10:05:22] <SirFinkus> haha, my friend's company got hit by cryptolocker
[10:05:28] <SirFinkus> they're fucked
[10:05:38] <geotti> JamesNZ http://boycottsystemd.org http://ewontfix.com http://uselessd.darknedgy.net http://debianfork.org
[10:05:40] <NetCraft> ^ 03boycott systemd
[10:05:40] <NetCraft> ^ 03EWONTFIX - Broken by design: systemd
[10:05:40] <NetCraft> ^ 03uselessd :: information system
[10:05:40] <NetCraft> ^ 03Roll up your sleeves, we may need to fork Debian.
[10:05:40] <SirFinkus> he isn't, because it doesn't know about solidworks files
[10:05:58] <SirFinkus> last backups are 1 year old
[10:05:58] <geotti> wow
[10:06:27] <geotti> JamesNZ: add http://ewontfix.com to the list
[10:06:28] <NetCraft> ^ 03EWONTFIX - Systemd has 6 service startup notification types, and they're all wrong
[10:07:19] <chromas> nothing wrong with the concept of replacing gnu though
[10:07:48] <geotti> as long as it's an option
[10:07:54] <JamesNZ> geotti: So... GNU == !monolithic/bloated?
[10:08:03] <geotti> s/option/choice/
[10:08:03] <SedBot9000> <geotti> as long as it's an choice
[10:08:15] <chromas> there wasn't a choice before, though; it was just gnu
[10:08:22] <chromas> or at least, that's what everybody was using
[10:08:32] <JamesNZ> GNU is not really about choice...
[10:08:33] <geotti> and everyone is used to
[10:08:52] <geotti> no, but shoving systemd down my throat is not about choice either
[10:09:16] <geotti> I'll be fine, I don't have hundreds/thousands of boxen, but others do and they're fucked
[10:09:32] <geotti> systemd is new, it should be a choice
[10:10:21] <chromas> It is. Almost all the big distros chose it
[10:10:22] <JamesNZ> I don't see the problem in learning how to use a new init system.
[10:10:51] <geotti> I'm talking about the users (i.e. admins)
[10:10:58] * JamesNZ notes he does not need to care what init system he uses
[10:11:01] <geotti> JamesNZ: i do, why should I?
[10:11:19] <geotti> I have a myriad of scripts and everything works and has for years
[10:11:20] <JamesNZ> Supposedly it's better.
[10:11:29] <geotti> ~define better
[10:11:31] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Better: More dateable; more attractiveReferring to a girl who is already good looking, but does something that makes a man lose interest.
[10:11:47] <crutchy> moved onto knife party now
[10:12:03] <chromas> popcornctl start popping
[10:12:20] * JamesNZ munches away happily
[10:12:27] <crutchy> sennheiser++ # cos their headphones are the shit
[10:12:27] <Bender> karma - sennheiser: 1
[10:12:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:12:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 978
[10:12:41] <geotti> bayerdynamic++ cuz they're "better"
[10:12:41] <Bender> karma - bayerdynamic: 1
[10:12:55] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Are they noticeably better than your average set of headphones?
[10:13:06] <geotti> beyerdynamic++
[10:13:06] <Bender> karma - beyerdynamic: 1
[10:13:10] <Konomi> anyone here familar with the ghost in teh shell series?
[10:13:13] * JamesNZ has a Sony set
[10:13:16] <crutchy> they good for the low bass
[10:13:37] <geotti> sysctl remove systemd
[10:13:40] <chromas> Konomi: is there more coming?
[10:13:46] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Ah.
[10:13:47] <Konomi> um no
[10:13:55] <chromas> 😔
[10:13:57] <Konomi> I'm just wondering about the order in which to watc them
[10:14:11] <chromas> 1, 2
[10:14:23] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[10:14:24] <NetCraft> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[10:14:26] <Konomi> does this look right?
[10:14:28] <chromas> Not sure about the movies
[10:14:29] * geotti prefers bowers & wilkins for listening and akg/sennheiser/beyerdynamic for hearing
[10:14:41] <Konomi> innocence is the iffy one for me
[10:14:52] <Konomi> since it's date seems to be half way betweek teh two tv series
[10:15:40] <chromas> I remember one of them is mostly people standing around thinking
[10:16:09] <Konomi> if only people did that in real life
[10:16:11] * Konomi hides
[10:16:53] <chromas> I recently saw a TV show where the plot was heavily influenced by the "laughing man incident"
[10:17:15] <chromas> Or at least they copied the coffee logo
[10:17:38] <chromas> And made it quite dorky
[10:22:29] <geotti> dorky++
[10:22:29] <Bender> karma - dorky: 1
[10:22:46] <crutchy> Konomi, you're pasteofcode didn't run for me
[10:22:55] <crutchy> i think it has a bug :p
[10:23:23] <crutchy> or it might be a ghost in my shell
[10:23:25] <Konomi> works for me
[10:24:02] <chromas> crutchy: you need systemd
[10:24:48] <geotti> emacsctl run world
[10:24:50] <chromas> And just now, Pandora plays a song from the gits ost. Is it spying on me?
[10:25:12] <geotti> bigbrotherctl shutdown now
[10:25:19] <geotti> systemd--
[10:25:19] <Bender> karma - systemd: -10
[10:27:35] -!- systemd [systemd!~systemd@709-27-2-01.cust.aussiebb.net] has joined #Soylent
[10:28:34] <crutchy> that host looks vaguely familiar. did someone install systemd on my pyewta?
[10:29:09] <geotti> guile_scheme++
[10:29:09] <Bender> karma - guile_scheme: 1
[10:29:14] <geotti> hurd++
[10:29:14] <Bender> karma - hurd: 4
[10:29:19] <geotti> gnu++
[10:29:19] <Bender> karma - gnu: 3
[10:29:24] <crutchy> toecheese++
[10:29:24] <Bender> karma - toecheese: 1
[10:29:27] <geotti> old_unix_ways++
[10:29:27] <Bender> karma - old_unix_ways: 1
[10:29:45] <geotti> karma++
[10:29:45] <Bender> karma - karma: 20
[10:30:03] * NetCraft confirms it! systemd is installed
[10:30:08] <crutchy> need moar bots!
[10:30:12] <geotti> ~define pyewta
[10:30:30] <exec> pyewta: unable to find definition
[10:30:34] <crutchy> exec-- # for being a slow poke
[10:30:34] <Bender> karma - exec: 13
[10:31:21] <crutchy> ~define-add pyewta, the most awesomer electronic gizmo evah!
[10:31:22] <exec> definition for term "pyewta" set to "the most awesomer electronic gizmo evah!"
[10:31:53] -!- APK [APK!~APK@709-27-2-01.cust.aussiebb.net] has joined #Soylent
[10:31:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> systemv++ # a more elegant init system for a more civilized age
[10:31:59] <Bender> karma - systemv: 1
[10:32:07] <crutchy> open_sores++
[10:32:07] <Bender> karma - open_sores: 1
[10:32:09] <geotti> systemv++
[10:32:09] <Bender> karma - systemv: 2
[10:32:13] <geotti> openrc++
[10:32:13] <Bender> karma - openrc: 3
[10:32:26] <geotti> TheMightyBuzzard++
[10:32:26] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 95
[10:32:49] <geotti> !whodown systemd
[10:32:49] <Bender> downers of systemd are: geotti: -16, aqu4: -3, TheMightyBuzzard: -2, ar: -2, FatPhil: -1, Subsentient: -1, arti: -1
[10:32:57] <geotti> aqu4++
[10:32:57] <Bender> karma - aqu4: 5
[10:32:57] <ar> systemd--
[10:32:57] <Bender> karma - systemd: -11
[10:33:00] <geotti> ar++
[10:33:00] <Bender> karma - ar: 7
[10:33:00] <ar> tea++
[10:33:00] <Bender> karma - tea: 91
[10:33:04] <ar> coffee--
[10:33:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 977
[10:33:07] <geotti> FatPhil++
[10:33:07] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 24
[10:33:10] <aqu4> systemd--
[10:33:10] <Bender> karma - systemd: -12
[10:33:11] <geotti> Subsentient++
[10:33:11] <Bender> karma - subsentient: 14
[10:33:13] <crutchy> $burrito crutchy
[10:33:13] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at crutchy
[10:33:14] <geotti> arti++
[10:33:14] <Bender> karma - arti: 62
[10:33:39] * geotti want's a foreach...
[10:33:44] <crutchy> $burrito aqu4
[10:33:44] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at aqu4
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[10:34:00] <chromas> geotti: make a foreach bot
[10:34:27] * geotti is still looking at irssi vs weechat vs quassel for the perma-connect
[10:34:40] <geotti> a for-each should be possible with either of them
[10:34:42] <geotti> bitchx++
[10:34:42] <Bender> karma - bitchx: 5
[10:34:50] <crutchy> we kinda had the beginnings of a dodgy irc programming language a while back: https://github.com
[10:35:29] <geotti> wut? crutchy is in php?
[10:35:35] <geotti> err
[10:35:39] <geotti> you know what I mean
[10:35:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> would explain a lot really
[10:36:12] <crutchy> that's right punks! i'm really a php bot mwahahahaha!!! ?>
[10:36:48] <geotti> emscripten_for_irc_implementation++
[10:36:48] <Bender> karma - emscripten_for_irc_implementation: 1
[10:37:25] <geotti> hexchat > xchat?
[10:37:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> slightly
[10:37:41] <crutchy> apparently. i have both installed and i'm still using xchat
[10:38:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> hexchat is still getting the odd update. xchat is abandonware.
[10:38:11] * geotti closes the xchat tab and is happy that there's less to choose from
[10:38:34] <crutchy> sic++
[10:38:34] <Bender> karma - sic: 3
[10:39:06] <crutchy> php's fsockopen is the best irc client of them all
[10:39:06] <geotti> hmm 250loc
[10:39:07] <geotti> sic++
[10:39:08] <Bender> karma - sic: 4
[10:39:51] <geotti> no updates for a year
[10:39:52] <geotti> sic--
[10:39:52] <Bender> karma - sic: 3
[10:40:08] <crutchy> can't update perfection
[10:40:35] <geotti> there must always be a flaw in perfection
[10:40:44] <crutchy> true
[10:40:45] <geotti> otherwise it'd be called flawless
[10:40:58] <crutchy> should be able to get it down to 240loc by now
[10:41:04] <crutchy> sic--
[10:41:04] <Bender> karma - sic: 2
[10:41:26] <geotti> s/called//
[10:41:26] <SedBot9000> <geotti> otherwise it'd be flawless
[10:41:44] <crutchy> SedBot9000, s/aw/oor/
[10:41:44] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> <SedBot9000> <geotti> otherwise it'd be floorless
[10:42:18] <geotti> laters
[10:42:22] <chromas> SedBot9000: s/./💩/g
[10:42:22] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <SedBot9000> 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
[10:42:30] <chromas> Flawless victory!
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[10:43:16] <crutchy> unreal_tournament++
[10:43:16] <Bender> karma - unreal_tournament: 1
[11:00:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook to DEA: Stop Using Phony Profiles to Nab Criminals - http://sylnt.us - facebook-charged-with-obstruction-of-justice
[11:02:56] <chromas> xfce++
[11:02:56] <Bender> karma - xfce: 4
[11:04:51] <chromas> Only thing with Debian is it doesn't has systemd
[11:07:31] <crutchy> sudo apt-get install systemd
[11:11:39] <chromas> The Debian installer doesn't know how to set up the network when run from the live cd
[11:18:50] <crutchy> usually tries dhcp first but you can also manually configure (such as for static)
[11:19:20] <crutchy> sometimes you might need to put wifi deb onto an sd card
[11:19:54] <crutchy> non-free stuff not usually enabled out of the box
[11:19:58] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[11:20:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima fix https://github.com today.
[11:20:22] <chromas> The net was detected at boot but when the installer comes along it breaks it
[11:20:51] <crutchy> tmb, ooh yeah that one looks like a fun little template thing
[11:21:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> add a <user>nick with spaces</user> functionality.
[11:22:16] <crutchy> hmm. maybe auto-add them in the preview if a string matches a username?
[11:22:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> really not much different than the sarcasm tags
[11:22:22] <chromas> [[wiki links]]
[11:22:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> too much regex.
[11:22:57] * chromas gives TheMightyBuzzard a sharp gasp
[11:23:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> and we do tags here, mixing wiki syntax would just be confusing
[11:23:33] <crutchy> systemctl user highlight TheMightyBuzzard
[11:23:43] <crutchy> tags not necessary :p
[11:24:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could hook it into an existing filter but i don't wanna write another one that has to filter through every username any time someone posts a comment
[11:24:32] <crutchy> i made a custom wiki with [[ and ]]. not overly hard but depends how efficient you need it to be
[11:24:52] * crutchy doesn't do regexp
[11:25:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, really it'd be having to pull every last nickname out of the db
[11:25:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> which you can't cache because it changes.
[11:26:12] <crutchy> explode content by space and construct one big fuckker of a sql query
[11:26:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> could but perl would handle just regexing through the comment a few thousand times fine
[11:27:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> but we also have folks with common word nicks who would end up as false positives
[11:27:18] <crutchy> and just read all usernames into an array for comparison
[11:27:26] <crutchy> true
[11:27:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> so <user> tags it is
[11:28:06] <crutchy> or <USER: > for similarity with URL tag?
[11:28:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck no, i hate that syntax
[11:28:27] <crutchy> i reckon <URL: should just be changed to <url></url>
[11:28:44] <crutchy> yeah its pretty unco
[11:28:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> i reckon it should DIAF
[11:28:56] <crutchy> ~define DIAF
[11:28:58] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3diaf: Die in a Fire
[11:29:01] <crutchy> lol
[11:29:03] <ciri> hahaha
[11:29:21] <crutchy> urbandictionary++
[11:29:21] <Bender> karma - urbandictionary: 3
[11:29:55] <crutchy> also, shorten <blockquote> to <quote>
[11:30:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's already done. we allow both.
[11:31:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> debating on if i wanna sneak this in as an easter-egg or what
[11:31:29] <crutchy> or even better <a> for url, <q> for quote, <u> for username, etc and normal html in comments can diaf :d
[11:31:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> <q> is already a valid tag
[11:31:53] <crutchy> it is?
[11:31:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, for in sentence quoting
[11:32:08] <crutchy> oh
[11:32:56] <crutchy> maybe do [username]
[11:33:02] <crutchy> that would be nice n easy
[11:33:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> u might work
[11:33:43] <crutchy> actually if you treat usernames the same as urls would be logical
[11:33:50] <chromas> <u> is underline
[11:33:55] <crutchy> except with a simple syntax
[11:34:22] <crutchy> like [http://goatse.cx/] or [xlefay]
[11:34:22] <NetCraft> ^ 03Goatse.cx - Goatse ( http://www.goatse.cx )
[11:34:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, u is taken
[11:34:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.w3schools.com
[11:35:00] <NetCraft> ^ 03HTML Reference
[11:35:13] <chromas> <ewe>
[11:35:21] <crutchy> is <u> deprecated in html5?
[11:35:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp
[11:35:35] * crutchy hasn't used <u> tags for long time
[11:35:43] <crutchy> css++
[11:35:43] <Bender> karma - css: 1
[11:35:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya deprecated in 4 even
[11:35:56] <chromas> Nobody underlines anymore
[11:36:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> now it means make it stylistically different like for misspelled words or proper nouns in chinese
[11:36:30] <chromas> No reason to deprecate it though
[11:36:47] <crutchy> most style related tags are deprecated i think
[11:36:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> no its use as underlike was deprecated not the tag itself
[11:37:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/like/line/
[11:37:07] <SedBot9000> <TheMightyBuzzard> no its use as underline was deprecated not the tag itself
[11:37:13] <crutchy> underlike++
[11:37:13] <Bender> karma - underlike: 1
[11:37:41] <crutchy> if w3c can change meaning of <u> i say we can too!
[11:38:14] <crutchy> they can take our tags, but they can never take... our free... toe cheese!!!
[11:39:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> aaaaaaaaah! someone drank all my coffee!
[11:39:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> brb
[11:39:11] <chromas> Once TheMightyBuzzard has his api in place then we can make a new web front end and the slash one can be deprecated
[11:39:14] <crutchy> sure there wasn't a hole in the cup?
[11:39:15] <Konomi> heh gits has the future happening at 2030 don't really see that coming around in 15 years
[11:39:19] <crutchy> that happens to me all the time
[11:39:21] <Konomi> well 16 ish
[11:40:24] <chromas> Well they did have the Japanese Miracle
[11:41:15] <crutchy> ~soylent modify-db "DELETE FROM users WHERE (username LIKE '*a*')"
[11:41:28] <crutchy> hmm dunno if that query was even a proper query
[11:41:32] <Azrael> hey!!!
[11:41:59] <chromas> %a%
[11:42:28] <chromas> For some reason
[11:42:52] <chromas> Sql-- # for retarded syntax
[11:42:52] <Bender> karma - sql: -1
[11:43:02] <crutchy> %a% looks like msaccess gayness
[11:43:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i should make a little bobby tables user
[11:43:08] <crutchy> might have come from that
[11:43:35] <crutchy> surprised that hasn't happened already
[11:43:37] <chromas> Access can suck it
[11:43:47] <chromas> Praise Paradox
[11:44:08] <crutchy> paradox was in toolbook ii publisher
[11:44:14] <crutchy> paradox++
[11:44:14] <Bender> karma - paradox: 1
[11:44:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> well you can't use enough punctuation to properly make one. it would have to be a manual nick change
[11:46:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[11:47:18] * TheMightyBuzzard changes crutchy's nick to Robert');DROP table users;--
[11:47:42] <crutchy> ~soylent modify-db "UPDATE users SET username='Robert\');DROP table users;--' WHERE (uid=18)"
[11:47:52] <crutchy> ooh
[11:48:00] * crutchy searches on SN
[11:48:39] <crutchy> holy shat there's no users with bobby!?
[11:48:40] <crutchy> wtf
[11:48:48] <crutchy> not even a 'bobby tables'
[11:48:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think pj might kill me for finding out the hard way that we missed doing a sqlQuote somewhere.
[11:48:59] * chromas lols at ar's away message
[11:49:24] <chromas> tenacious_d++
[11:49:24] <Bender> karma - tenacious_d: 1
[11:49:34] <crutchy> wow. didn't realize there was such a thing as an away message :d
[11:49:56] <crutchy> fracionado++
[11:49:56] <Bender> karma - fracionado: 2
[11:51:15] <chromas> oh duh. the other SedBot is FoobarBazbot's
[11:51:23] <chromas> so it's connected but not in any channels
[11:52:16] <chromas> been on since the fifth
[11:52:20] <chromas> the fizith
[11:52:31] <crutchy> lol
[11:53:18] <chromas> think this hdd is broke. deb installer won't mkfs on it
[11:53:19] <crutchy> sedbot is a protected entity anyway. prolly wouldn't have to keep it online to make sure nobody took it; irc gods could compulsorily acquire it if need be :p
[11:53:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> badblocks it, chromas
[11:54:19] <chromas> why have I not heard of this before?
[11:54:44] <chromas> What have I done with my life?
[11:55:28] <chromas> of course, if that does the job then I should switch it back to arch :D
[11:56:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> also watch syslog for hardware errors
[11:56:47] <crutchy> http://www.youtube.com
[11:56:48] <NetCraft> ^ 03Avicii - Levels (Skrillex Remix) Guitar Cover - YouTube
[11:57:06] <crutchy> guitar fapping
[11:57:37] <chromas> NetCraft: s/ici/ah/
[11:57:38] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <NetCraft> ^ 03Avahi - Levels (Skrillex Remix) Guitar Cover - YouTube
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[12:23:15] <SirFinkus> ew
[12:39:32] <Leebert> ugh. too early for dubstep.
[12:42:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google to launch an ID Dongle - http://sylnt.us - keep-your-dongles-safe
[12:50:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google to Launch an ID Dongle - http://sylnt.us - keep-your-dongles-safe
[13:04:17] <SirFinkus> it's always too early for dubstep
[13:04:40] <SirFinkus> I'm still convinced dubstep is some kind of parody of itself
[13:04:52] <SirFinkus> some massive joke that's being played on humanity
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[13:26:15] <crutchy> SirFinkus, probably right
[13:26:58] <crutchy> most dubstep is crap. the only dubstep that is remotely tolerable is the stuff that barely resembles dubstep
[13:28:33] <crutchy> that avicii song only really has a small dubstep section that repeats, and the guitar kinda covers it up nicely :)
[13:31:03] <Leebert> Well, I kind of see Dubstep like whipped cream. It's nice to have a little bit every now and then, but if I made a meal of it on a regular basis I'd get sick pretty quickly.
[13:31:55] <Leebert> It's interesting to me that some dubstepish things have started to find their way into contemporary Christian music.
[13:32:33] <SirFinkus> it's like they based their entire genre on one specify part of music composition
[13:33:15] <Leebert> Beg your pardon?
[13:33:22] <Leebert> Oh, I think I get what you're saying.
[13:33:36] <Leebert> I dunno; I think it's evolved into its own unique genre.
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[13:34:32] <SirFinkus> like if I were to invent a genre based on bends
[13:34:32] <Leebert> Growing up in the culture, I remember being unimpressed and uninterested in the contemporary Christian music of the '80s and '90s, because I saw them as (poor) imitations of secular music.
[13:35:06] <Leebert> Only when I started to local crew various concerts for Christian groups did I actually develop an appreciation for it.
[13:35:25] <Leebert> Right around the turn of the millenium (I like saying that because it makes me sound old)
[13:35:46] <SirFinkus> the main thing that bothers me about Christian stuff is the lack of lyrical variety
[13:35:58] <Leebert> When I wondered if the music had changed or my tastes had changed, I went back and re-visited the stuff of that era, and... yup. It sucked.
[13:36:19] <Leebert> Well, I'm not sure why that's a surprise. :)
[13:36:30] <Leebert> By definition it's all going to be about God.
[13:36:56] <SirFinkus> didn't say it was
[13:37:02] <Leebert> Fair enough. :)
[13:37:15] <SirFinkus> they can be hilarious if looked at with the correct perverted mindset too
[13:37:42] <Leebert> I have to say it's some of the only music where I actually listen to the lyrics regularly. Especially MercyMe.
[13:37:50] <SirFinkus> I think there was a south park episode about it lol
[13:38:11] <Leebert> This does not surprise me. :)
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[13:39:08] <Leebert> I actually had a good joke about that that I made to $coworker when we were talking about it. I said something along the lines of, "hey, man. I'm not ashamed to listen to Christian contemporary music. Heck, half of the songs are NAMED 'I am not ashamed'!".
[13:39:23] <SirFinkus> lmao
[13:40:10] <crutchy> ~weather
[13:40:11] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC, Australia - currently 65°F / 18°C, overcast, wind S at 6 mph, humidity 69% - Thursday chance of rain (55°F-61°F / 13°C-16°C), Friday chance of storm (57°F-77°F / 14°C-25°C), Saturday mostly cloudy (54°F-72°F / 12°C-22°C), Sunday cloudy (55°F-75°F / 13°C-24°C) - source: Google
[13:40:22] <SirFinkus> One of my albums has a viking on the cover cutting down a cross with a broadsword, different mindset I suppose
[13:40:23] * Leebert looks out the window
[13:40:44] <crutchy> feck. 18 degrees at half past midnight :/
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[13:41:07] <SirFinkus> ~weather
[13:41:07] <Blackmoore> it's colder here. 45f outside
[13:41:08] <exec> Weather for Olympia, WA - currently 55°F / 13°C, rain, wind SW at 5 mph, humidity 71% - Wednesday rain (48°F-59°F / 9°C-15°C), Thursday showers (43°F-59°F / 6°C-15°C), Friday rain (48°F-57°F / 9°C-14°C), Saturday chance of storm (46°F-59°F / 8°C-15°C) - source: Google
[13:41:14] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[13:41:14] <Bender> karma - coffee: 978
[13:41:22] <SirFinkus> it'll be like that for the next 6 months
[13:41:39] <Blackmoore> while we start dealing with polar vortex
[13:42:46] <Leebert> The intarwebs say it's ~12°C here.
[13:43:00] * Leebert doesn't know how to use the fancy-pants weather bot.
[13:43:04] <SirFinkus> scientist need to think up more sensationalistic names for things
[13:43:40] <crutchy> ~help ~weather
[13:43:44] <exec> Syntax:
[13:43:44] <exec> ~weather location
[13:43:45] <exec> weather data courtesy of the APRS Citizen Weather Observer Program (CWOP) @ http://weather.gladstonefamily.net
[13:43:45] <exec> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[13:43:45] <Leebert> Don't say 'polar vortex' please; I still need to put the ceiling back in my living room. On the plus side, the county finally issued my permit.
[13:44:08] <crutchy> oops. guess that's the old one
[13:44:13] <Leebert> crutchy: Thanks. I'll stick with wunderground, though.
[13:44:15] <crutchy> new one is googlizes
[13:44:23] <crutchy> *ized
[13:44:39] <SirFinkus> like "climate change", they should call that "global flood" or something
[13:44:59] <SirFinkus> they're going the opposite direction
[13:45:57] * TheMightyBuzzard grumbles
[13:46:25] <SirFinkus> morning sunshine
[13:46:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i been up for a while
[13:46:41] <SirFinkus> oh
[13:46:48] <crutchy> hows the user tags?
[13:47:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> done except for some reason AC keeps getting linked
[13:47:12] <SirFinkus> they're tagging us now?
[13:47:14] * SirFinkus hides
[13:47:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> must have a logic fail somewhere in there
[13:47:22] <Leebert> This is stupid. I actually get a day that's conducive to working from home, and now I want to go to Starbucks and work there.
[13:47:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, RFID for you
[13:47:49] <SirFinkus> starbucks--
[13:47:49] <Bender> karma - starbucks: -1
[13:48:14] * crutchy wishes he worked in a skyscraper
[13:48:30] <SirFinkus> you can pay to much for coffee AND get mitm'd at the SAME TIME
[13:50:20] * crutchy wonders if it could be possible to compromize a mitm by sending spurious packets that caused a buffer overlow in wireshark or whatever
[13:50:39] <crutchy> or nmap
[13:50:41] <Leebert> SirFinkus: I'm not silly enough to not encryptify when there.
[13:50:57] <crutchy> or whatever smart hackererer dudes use
[13:51:42] <Leebert> If I knew such a thing were going on, I'd look for the person doing it and either punch them in the face or try to hire them.
[13:51:47] <Leebert> Depends on if they're bigger than I am.
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[13:53:10] <crutchy> ah oh
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[13:53:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> god damnit, i almost had it figured out and the power went out
[13:54:33] <crutchy> xlefay's fault :d
[13:54:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, xlefay is a myth. he don't actually exist
[13:55:20] <SirFinkus> if he died and just had some bouncer running, it'd make a good story
[13:55:42] <crutchy> aliens dude. aliens
[13:55:55] <crutchy> or NSA
[13:56:03] <SirFinkus> he just had a server somewhere paid up through the end of the year
[13:56:40] <crutchy> maybe he was a bot. a real smart one from the footure
[13:57:24] <crutchy> but he runded out of batteries and forgot to bring a mr fusion
[13:57:35] <SirFinkus> xlefay is pig latin for faxle
[13:57:46] <SirFinkus> he's a fax machine
[13:58:05] <crutchy> a french fax machine
[13:58:16] <SirFinkus> or a "limited edition" one
[13:58:42] <crutchy> he has the same first name as my son
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[14:00:09] <crutchy> g'day mattie_p :)
[14:00:15] <mattie_p> Hi crutchy
[14:00:15] <ciri> hi mattie_p
[14:00:38] * crutchy offers ciri a meaty bite
[14:01:45] <mattie_p> whats new in SoylentNews land?
[14:02:35] <SirFinkus> oh it's awful mattie_p, they're tagging us
[14:02:40] <SirFinkus> mark of the beast stuff
[14:02:55] <crutchy> xlefay's fault
[14:02:56] <mattie_p> awww, man, did I miss mine? I hate being left out
[14:03:01] <SirFinkus> like ANIMALS
[14:04:07] <crutchy> cute fluffy ones that dance to dubstep
[14:04:49] <SirFinkus> I haven't even looked yet, but I bet you that there's a "stoner" subgenre called "budstep"
[14:05:42] <crutchy> there's chillstep
[14:05:43] <LaminatorX> All moved in back east?
[14:06:02] <mattie_p> LaminatorX, I am, and even have a fulltime job in IT, so its going pretty good
[14:07:21] <crutchy> you'll need a new hacker nick then
[14:07:26] <LaminatorX> Sweet!
[14:08:18] <mattie_p> I'll have to unveil it shortly then
[14:09:10] <crutchy> Ж¥ПłЭ·ф
[14:10:01] * crutchy wonders if its possible to use unicode in SN usernames
[14:11:01] <mattie_p> only one way to find out
[14:11:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why Pro-systemd and Anti-systemd People Will Never Get Along - http://sylnt.us - head-meets-desk
[14:12:13] <crutchy> head meets desk alright
[14:13:24] <crutchy> 'why my cat doesn't want to go for a dip in the pool'
[14:14:16] <crutchy> a: cos the cat thinks the pool smells and the pool thinks the cat is evil
[14:16:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, no it's not. we decided not to change that regex on the grounds of our users are smartasses
[14:23:26] <mattie_p> and evil
[14:28:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> that too but not as evil as the staff
[14:28:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> and mostly because i did not want to have to look at a user named 💩
[14:35:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> one issue cleared today. feelin good enough bout myself that ima dick off with some video games.
[14:41:53] <paulej72> uids are easier to type than nicks
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[14:44:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, aight, fair point
[14:45:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> start it with a # then so we can tell user 1234 from a user with uid 1234?
[14:46:13] <paulej72> what if the nick is #1234?
[14:46:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't think we allow pound signs, do we?
[14:46:38] <paulej72> not sure
[14:46:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i'd hafta look it up too
[14:47:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[14:48:40] <paulej72> things that make you go hrm
[14:50:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> debating on if i want to look it up or not
[14:50:54] <SirFinkus> want to see if ur mom can join?
[14:50:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, nicks have to start with a-z
[14:51:08] <paulej72> cool
[14:51:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think, there's also a db setting
[14:52:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, # is not allowed. excellent.
[14:55:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> Here's a bug for you: results are returned when you search for "Andrea Rossi": http://soylentnews.org but no results are returned when you search for "E Cat", "E-Cat", "(E-Cat)", or "(E cat)", despite the string "(E-Cat)" being in the story about Andrea Rossi's device.
[14:55:53] <NetCraft> ^ 03Search 'Andrea Rossi'
[14:56:11] * AndyTheAbsurd goes off to submit that to the Issues log on github
[14:57:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> <sarc>yay</sarc>
[14:57:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> TBH, search being terrible and useless has been a problem with Slashcode for a long time
[14:58:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> the search box on slashdot.org has been useless since before 2000.
[14:58:33] <mattie_p> probably just need to leverage a custom search engine query and call it a day
[14:59:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> it really shouldn't be difficult but i'm not fixing it today.
[15:04:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, added and working
[15:05:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> should we change the decoration to show it's a <user> link rather than a regular old link?
[15:09:45] <paulej72> We could add a class to the link and style it, wonder if we could get it not to put the domain tag on it?
[15:10:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> somehow prolly but i'm quickly running out of good coding hours for the day.
[15:10:37] <paulej72> sure sure
[15:10:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> was thinkin the same on adding a class
[15:11:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> class="commentUserLink"?
[15:14:49] <paulej72> sure why not :)
[15:15:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, leave the beastie sit until tomorrow and i'll tweak on it some more today and in the morning.
[15:16:14] <paulej72> make the text 2 ems, and make it blink using css3 animations
[15:18:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was thinking blinking marquee scroll
[15:18:54] <paulej72> a:hover {display:none;}
[15:19:15] <paulej72> http://visualidiot.com
[15:19:15] <NetCraft> ^ 03CSS3 For The Real World · Visual Idiot
[15:19:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> or, realistically, undecorate it and add an @ to the front
[15:20:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe some {} around it
[15:20:19] <paulej72> that is possible
[15:20:55] <paulej72> will not work in older browsers but it will fall back gacefully
[15:21:21] <paulej72> if we do it with css that is
[15:21:29] <paulej72> ok food time bbl
[15:21:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> have i mentioned lately that older browsers can suck it? it's obligatory as a web dev
[15:22:15] <paulej72> sure, but it is nice if it does not break hard
[15:23:43] <mattie_p> I'm pretty sure that's what he means by "suck it"
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[16:18:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[16:18:49] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN (TMB dev) comment by The Mighty Buzzard (18)
[16:28:26] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: neato, what's the syntax?
[16:28:36] <mrcoolbp> @#18 hi TMB"
[16:28:38] <mrcoolbp> ?
[16:28:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> <user>username</user> or <user>#uid</user>
[16:29:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> we already had massive processing built for tags but i'd have to reinvent the wheel for @nick or @#uid or what have you
[16:30:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> could come in handy if we ever get around to building user-to-user messaging too.
[16:32:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly, i don't think this will be used a lot since threading works pretty well to begin with but maybe for talking to GP(GGP, etc...) and such
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[17:37:42] <SirFinkus> oh shit, they cancelled hockey, I guess this is pretty serious
[17:38:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> why, canada out of beer or something?
[17:38:42] <SirFinkus> no, turn on the news
[17:38:49] <SirFinkus> some motherfucker tried to shoot up parliment
[17:38:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> shootings in Ottowa
[17:38:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh that thing
[17:39:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> not just Parliament but also the War Memorial and a mall
[17:39:07] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[17:39:08] <NetCraft> ^ 03Globe footage captures shooting in Parliament building - YouTube
[17:39:11] <nick> superintlnews today
[17:39:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> shoot my politicians all you want, i still want my football.
[17:40:01] <SirFinkus> lol, US is already saying it's ISIS
[17:40:20] <nick> SirFinkus, that seems to be the line UK news is following also
[17:40:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> wtf we got to do with anything?
[17:40:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> of course the US is; we *don't* have homegrown terrorists you know
[17:40:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> never mind about that McVeigh feller
[17:40:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> or Kaczinski
[17:40:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> or any of the rest of them... </sarcasm>
[17:40:54] <SirFinkus> the politicians love ISIS, they make a good boogyman
[17:41:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[17:41:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally i'm more afraid of lightning than terrorists. it's more likely to kill me.
[17:41:31] <nick> Five-Eyes never saw it coming, apparently.
[17:41:36] <SirFinkus> it's been a while since I've watched the news, they love the twitter
[17:41:49] <SirFinkus> they can just cherry pick stuff that fits the narrative
[17:41:55] <SirFinkus> telling us what we should feel
[17:42:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, plus it keeps them having to go find stuff out
[17:42:21] <nick> they are 'reporting' on what people with agendas are saying
[17:42:35] <nick> journalism ftw
[17:42:35] <SirFinkus> no, they mostly use twitter for emotions
[17:42:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> a lot of stuff that ISIS says/does seems intentionally designed to make the rest of the world hate them
[17:42:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> and hate is a very powerful emotion
[17:42:58] <SirFinkus> it's a way of saying "you should be sad" or "you should be angry" without actually saying it
[17:43:15] <nick> the ISIS PR machine is one of wonder, they do know how to push the buttons
[17:43:26] <nick> and make the stories so hard to pass up, because they cant be anything but clickbait
[17:43:40] <nick> letting the terrorists win, by letting them control the narrative
[17:43:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, have we run one?
[17:43:41] <SirFinkus> that's pretty much the only reason they're so sensationalized
[17:43:55] <SirFinkus> otherwise, they'd just be another terrorist group
[17:44:03] <nick> we havn't run a story on this
[17:44:33] <SirFinkus> I'd suggest letting it sit for a little while longer
[17:44:42] <SirFinkus> since nobody really knows what's going on yet
[17:44:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly should, i would have known then instead of having to find out on twitter.
[17:45:12] <nick> i'll see if a sub has been made
[17:45:19] <nick> and will push it forward if so
[17:45:38] <SirFinkus> god, all these cops probably have throbbing erections
[17:45:42] <nick> we have a sub, will make it jump the queue as breaking news
[17:45:45] <SirFinkus> I bet they love this stuff
[17:46:01] <SirFinkus> get to break out all the toys
[17:54:34] <nick> i'm finding conflicting reports
[17:54:56] <nick> has a soldier actually been killed in the shooting?
[17:55:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> just to be nit-picky but killing a soldier is legitimate, legal warfare not terrorism.
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[17:55:58] <SirFinkus> yes soldier has been killed
[17:56:02] <SirFinkus> bbc and cbc
[17:56:03] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard, i think the lines are blurred enough now that it doesnt matter
[17:56:08] <nick> killed, by being shot or run over?
[17:56:16] <SirFinkus> shot, died from injuries
[17:56:40] <SirFinkus> parliment shooter also dead
[17:58:02] <SirFinkus> RCMP just confirmed both of those
[17:58:33] <nick> thanks, i got it via the bbc
[17:58:42] <nick> the cbc.ca story i was looking at was out of date
[17:59:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> dead's a fine thing for a shooter to be in general
[17:59:02] <nick> and the submitted source was crap
[17:59:11] <nick> story should come live in a minute
[17:59:32] <nick> rushed so there might be some fixes needed
[17:59:56] <SirFinkus> "downloading the ottowa police official app"
[17:59:59] <SirFinkus> nice try
[18:02:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Shots Fired at Seat of Canadian Government - http://sylnt.us
[18:08:45] <SirFinkus> media is ramping up the fear
[18:09:45] <nick> it's the international news story today
[18:11:29] <nick> no doubt it will result in more action, more surviellence, more national security laws
[18:11:44] <nick> because as i mentioned previously, Five-Eyes didn't see it coming, so clearly we need more of all that jazz.
[18:12:10] <Blackmoore> *headdesk*
[18:12:36] <Blackmoore> and apparently the already restrictive gun laws in canada arent resrtictive enough
[18:13:08] <nick> well, in contrast there was an incident in the UK parliament today also
[18:13:17] <Blackmoore> in parlement?!
[18:13:51] <Blackmoore> oh! parlement in canada
[18:14:12] <SirFinkus> maybe it's just me, but it seems like more people are bumrushing politicians these days
[18:14:14] <nick> "An object is thought to have been thrown against the transparent shield in front of the gallery but did not reach the chamber below."
[18:14:23] <nick> ^^ in the UK today, at Prime Ministers Questions
[18:15:35] <SirFinkus> this press conference is hilarious, they don't all fit at the table
[18:17:12] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[18:17:44] <nick> cozy
[18:18:43] <SirFinkus> it's like a python sketch
[18:24:12] <SirFinkus> the whole french/english thing is a bit silly too
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[18:25:50] <nick> if you were the french minority you wouldn't think so ;)
[18:26:39] <SirFinkus> I actually probably would
[18:28:03] <nick> you wouldn't be the french minority then most likely, you'd just be living in quebec
[18:28:29] <nick> i'm not saying its sensible or logical, but i understand the perspective
[18:30:23] <nick> history and tradition means literally everything to some people
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[18:40:24] <weeds> The first link in the article is broken, It has an extra "h" in it.
[18:43:29] <nick> fixed, should show up in the next couple minutes
[18:49:54] <weeds> okie
[18:50:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.ghacks.net
[18:51:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually some worthwhile stuff in there
[18:55:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> nap time
[19:00:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nick Szabo on Metcalfe's Law and the Last Mile - 250 Years Ago - http://sylnt.us - retrospective
[20:11:18] <paulej72> i am happily cleaning viruses and malware off a users comp right now
[20:11:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Gene Duplications Associated with Autism Evolved Recently in Human History - http://sylnt.us - super-human-evolution
[20:11:51] <crutchy> first_birthday++
[20:11:52] <Bender> karma - first_birthday: 2
[20:12:04] <crutchy> ^best virus removal tool
[20:12:16] <Blackmoore> not edgar?
[20:12:29] <paulej72> just used combofix
[20:13:39] <Leebert> awesome! $1,200 fuel injection control module went up on Mr. Truck. This just one month after $2,200 in other repairs.
[20:14:36] <Blackmoore> wtf. and i cpmplain bout $600 in repairs
[20:15:45] <mattie_p> aww, my man edgar can solve everything
[20:16:43] <Leebert> s'ok. I just turned in the plates on my old car that blew up so I'm getting a $65 rebate for next year's registration fees.
[20:16:45] <paulej72> well i just spent
[20:17:12] <paulej72> 5600 on my impala for tranny work and other stuff
[20:17:32] <LaminatorX> Damn, too slow on the grab.
[20:18:52] <Leebert> Yeah, for a 3/4 ton diesel it's not a huge sum of $$
[20:19:00] <Leebert> Still kinda annoying.
[20:19:56] <paulej72> amazing how fast this machine is now that the malware is gone
[20:20:14] <Leebert> Uninstalled Windows, didja?
[20:20:29] <Leebert> Yeah, I know. 1997 called... Old habits die hard.
[20:20:29] <paulej72> not quite :)
[20:21:04] <Blackmoore> www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail118.html
[20:21:25] <Leebert> I swear I'm like a dog who can't decide in or out. Now that I'm at Starbucks, I want to go home.
[20:21:31] <paulej72> but i did have to reinstall that malware known as mcafee
[20:21:37] <Leebert> Stupid crappy wifi.
[20:21:44] <Leebert> Use Microsoft Security Essentials.
[20:22:13] <Leebert> It's actually pretty unintrusive. Can't speak for its anti-malware effectiveness, but all A/V software sucks anyway.
[20:22:39] <paulej72> i wish i could but this is a partially managed machine
[20:23:07] * Leebert ponders continuing to be nice to paulej72 on IRC but pulling out the flamethrower on Soylent
[20:23:32] <Leebert> IME the less "managed" a machine is in the "enterprise", the better it works.
[20:23:42] <paulej72> sure flame away
[20:25:56] <paulej72> the university choose mcafee for the enterprise management and encryption. the av came along for the ride
[20:27:36] <paulej72> the problem on this machine is the user likes to install any software he comes across that looks vaguely like something he needs or wants
[20:28:10] <Leebert> That's all the flame I can muster. I guess I'm not as grumpy as usual today.
[20:28:18] <paulej72> cant stop users from their own stupidity
[20:29:41] <Leebert> paulej72: I was referring to my reply to your message about identity theft; I wasn't flaming you about your A/V issue. :)
[20:30:40] <paulej72> sure i was expecting that as i did not parse the story fully before posting
[20:45:35] <crutchy> i like hands-off IT policy
[20:45:56] <crutchy> as long as users take some responsibility for things going wrong
[20:47:00] <crutchy> cos if a pyewta needs fixing and its not 'enterprizized' it generally takes longer
[20:47:51] <crutchy> can't just reimage
[20:48:33] <crutchy> maybe we need an 'Ask Soylent: Best IT policy for a SME?' flamebait story :D
[20:48:33] <Leebert> In all seriousness, it really does depend on what you're doing.
[20:48:33] <Blackmoore> hey just cause my computer runs off of coal and .. i cant enven finish the thought.
[20:49:18] <Leebert> I really don't care what the developers of twitter do with their computers. But my bank had damn well better have security controls out the wazzu.
[20:49:37] <Leebert> 'tis why the best infosec people are also good at risk management.
[20:49:40] <crutchy> damn. briquettes wouldn't fit in my CD-ROM drive. you must have the deluxe model
[20:56:56] <chromas> The briquette drive is full-height. Do you have enough bays in your case?
[21:03:13] <paulej72> you have to light the briquettes first so they fit better
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[21:21:57] <Leebert> I recommend a more modern wood pellet computer.
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[21:25:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> whale oil ftw
[21:26:08] <Blackmoore> damn it, only the best anthricite coal for my baby. and distilled water for the boiler. that explosion due to calcium build up was awful.
[21:26:40] <Blackmoore> (this actually sounds like a case mod worth making)
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[23:33:07] <SpallsHurgenson> jesus christ mozilla, what the hell? http://www.eweek.com
[23:33:44] <SpallsHurgenson> Mozilla: desperately trying to stay relevant by abandoning everything that made us awesome in the first place
[23:39:13] <chromas> needs a fork!
[23:39:35] <chromas> mozzarella—peel away
[23:41:36] <chromas> ~submit The Mozilla Foundation Hates Dogs
[23:48:10] <SpallsHurgenson> dogs are fine if you use enough ketchup