#Soylent | Logs for 2014-10-21
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[00:05:40] <silverly> http://www.guzmanygomez.com
[00:05:48] <silverly> oops
[00:05:54] * silverly sorry wrong chat
[00:06:04] <chromas> too late; already clicked
[00:06:21] <SpallsHurgenson> free burritos? road trip!
[00:07:57] <SpallsHurgenson> anybody else up for a drive to Australia?
[00:08:37] * chromas kicks in $50 Soylent Moneys for fuel
[00:09:46] <chromas> I think they misspelled "Clockburn"
[00:11:58] <silverly> come!
[00:12:06] <silverly> soyent party in aus
[00:12:26] * silverly your safety is not guaranteed
[00:12:29] <SpallsHurgenson> first ten people to arrive get a free mauling from a dropbear!
[00:13:59] <SpallsHurgenson> (all other arrivals also get mauled by dropbears... but they have to pay for the privilege :)
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[01:40:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Install Multiple OSes from a Single USB Stick - http://sylnt.us - tricks-of-the-trade
[01:42:10] <SpallsHurgenson> it's black magic, I tell you! One OS ought to be enough for anyone!
[01:42:39] <chromas> —Lennart Poettering
[01:49:07] <SpallsHurgenson> I dunno, I was thinking about MS DOS :)
[01:53:50] <chromas> ~submit Ask Soylent: Best DE for Windows Converts?
[01:53:51] <chromas> hurrrr
[01:54:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> evil, do it
[01:55:41] <chromas> I actually am wondering. Probably go with xfce. My 13yo nephew is a bit interested in linux
[01:55:45] <chromas> Time to pull out the vms
[01:55:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> xfce or lxde
[01:56:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> go ahead n sub it anyway though be something to argue about that ain't systemd
[01:56:58] <chromas> oh yeah?
[01:57:09] <chromas> "give him gentoo 'cause it ain't got no systemd"
[01:57:25] <chromas> "You don't want to ruin his childhood nad have cps take him away for systemd abuse, do you?"
[01:57:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas not a de
[01:57:47] <chromas> ssssh
[01:58:01] <chromas> wait I thought systemd arguments were supposed to be ignorant
[01:58:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> twm ftw
[01:58:13] <chromas> is that the one that comes with x?
[01:58:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> little less basic than xterm
[01:58:42] <chromas> manual_window_mapping--
[01:58:42] <Bender> karma - manual_window_mapping: -1
[01:59:10] <SpallsHurgenson> didn't there used to be a distro that basically duplicated the XP shell on Linux?
[01:59:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> few of em, yeah
[01:59:34] <chromas> http://blog.wikimedia.org
[01:59:41] <chromas> ^ lol @ art
[02:00:04] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: for example, Lindows
[02:00:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh
[02:00:34] <SpallsHurgenson> Lindows didn't really duplicate XP's look that well.
[02:01:07] <chromas> that's the only one I remember. Maybe Corel Linux tried
[02:01:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> mate, xfce, lxde, really anything but enlightenment or gnome
[02:01:40] <SpallsHurgenson> I know I saw one where you really had to look hard - at least on the surface - to tell it wasn't really windows. probably violated a half-dozen trademarks :)
[02:01:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> well or unity
[02:01:50] <chromas> I had my siste on ubuntu a thousand years ago
[02:02:34] <chromas> linux++
[02:02:34] <Bender> karma - linux: 10
[02:03:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://arstechnica.com
[02:03:38] <NetCraft> ^ 03Microsoft “loves Linux” as it makes Azure bigger, better | Ars Technica ( http://arstechnica.com )
[02:03:43] <chromas> so xfce on archlinux, right?
[02:04:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> on debian
[02:04:22] <chromas> palemoon--
[02:04:22] <Bender> karma - palemoon: -1
[02:04:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> debian's better for a noob
[02:04:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, what's the beef with palemoon?
[02:05:01] <chromas> new tab doesn't work right anymore
[02:05:31] <chromas> must be time to reinstall
[02:05:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ^T works fine
[02:06:31] <chromas> ^T, ^L
[02:06:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i mean i like just put the latest update in today
[02:07:02] <chromas> https://www.debian.org
[02:07:02] <NetCraft> ^ 03Debian -- News -- Debian Project mourns the loss of Peter Miller ( 20141020.en.html )
[02:07:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> dbus was being a whiny bitch earlier today though. must have updated it and not noticed
[02:07:18] <chromas> we could post that and see if someone makes a connection between that and systemd :D
[02:07:32] <chromas> "Peter Miller was against systemd and they KILLED HIM!"
[02:07:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh my god, they killed peter
[02:08:06] <chromas> you bastard!
[02:08:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me. been a long time without a proper kenny death
[02:08:51] <chromas> or a decent episode
[02:08:58] <chromas> season_17--
[02:08:58] <Bender> karma - season_17: -1
[02:10:59] <SpallsHurgenson> I need a new hat
[02:11:11] * chromas torrents xfce live image
[02:11:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> a red one?
[02:13:32] <SpallsHurgenson> I need somebody to measure my head :)
[02:15:04] <chromas> any phrenologists in da house?
[02:15:34] <SpallsHurgenson> hands off my head-bumps!
[02:21:44] <SpallsHurgenson> huh, apparently my head falls into the "extra-large" category
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[02:59:13] <chromas> so, tmb, according to that article, Soylent should move over to azure :D
[02:59:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, we prolly should
[03:00:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> or maybe some sweet win2k servers
[03:02:51] <chromas> Aww. I miss win2k and it's long boot times
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[03:08:12] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't remember 2K having such long boot times... then again, I don't really remember much about 2K in general
[03:09:18] <chromas> I think it took a couple minutes to boot. When I finally caved in and went with xp, it was ~20 seconds plus the sound didn't randomly crap out
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[03:09:51] <chromas> though Trinity/GlobeCaster boxes would only work with 2k for some reason
[03:11:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fear Ebola Outbreak Could Make Nation Turn to Science - http://sylnt.us - not-the-worst-possible-result
[03:23:36] <SpallsHurgenson> not science! anything but science!
[03:26:42] * SpallsHurgenson prays the Ebola away!
[03:29:55] <SpallsHurgenson> "Oh great Nyarlathotep..."
[03:31:00] <chromas> Our Source Code, who art in github; hallowed be thy perl. Your hackers come, your source be pulled, at home, as it is on github. Give us this day our daily bacon, and forgive us our flames as we forgive our flamebaits. And lead us not into citation, and deliver us from beta
[03:32:13] * chromas shoulda wrote "Our Slash Code"; durn it
[03:32:50] <SpallsHurgenson> if only there was someway to substitute text in this channel...
[03:33:15] <chromas> oh yeah
[03:33:38] * chromas prays to SedBot to adjust my writin's[1]
[03:33:57] * SpallsHurgenson waits expectantly for the footnote
[03:34:27] <chromas> [1] the apostrophe indicates contraction, not ownership
[03:35:07] <SpallsHurgenson> :)
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[04:40:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - WP says Marijuana Legalization Makes World a Better Place - http://sylnt.us - learning-lessons
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[05:54:34] <crutchy> gitlab++
[05:54:34] <Bender> karma - gitlab: 1
[05:54:39] <crutchy> sourcetree++
[05:54:39] <Bender> karma - sourcetree: 1
[05:58:07] <JamesNZ> gitlab++
[05:58:07] <Bender> karma - gitlab: 2
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[06:06:55] <chromas> Bender: s/.$/s-except-the-local-leos-for-some-reason/
[06:06:55] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <Bender> karma - gitlab: s-except-the-local-leos-for-some-reason
[06:07:01] <chromas> aw
[06:07:10] <chromas> oh yeah
[06:08:21] <chromas> but yeah, we do still have people in WA trying to convince us the mari-ji-uana's bad
[06:28:40] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:28:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 981
[06:30:04] <crutchy> i think gitlab is ruby
[06:30:23] <crutchy> ar gotta be happy with that
[06:33:43] <chromas> ~define bmrt display
[06:33:57] <chromas> internet--
[06:33:57] <Bender> karma - internet: -1
[06:34:00] <exec> [stoacademy] 3bmrt display: Photonic Displacer - A universal console that creates a photonic decoy of your ship and cloaks you so that you can escape.
[06:35:13] <crutchy> ~define seven of nine
[06:35:22] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Seven_of_nine: Seven of Nine (born Annika Hansen) is a fictional character who appears in seasons four through seven of the American science fiction television series Star Trek: Voyager. Portrayed by Jeri Ryan, she...
[06:35:39] <crutchy> what?! no ud?
[06:35:56] <ar> crutchy: it's mostly ruby, but there are some python scripts there
[06:39:24] <crutchy> started using gitflow today
[06:39:52] <crutchy> bit different from the linear progression of exec's repo
[06:40:57] <chromas> oh noes! gitlab's used by EA, Qualcomm and Redhat? Eeeviill!
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[06:41:22] <crutchy> gitlabd start systemd
[06:41:53] <chromas> systemd killed my mom and raped my cat
[06:42:19] <chromas> so gitflow is a system, not a program?
[06:42:43] <crutchy> its even better... a methodology!
[06:42:53] <chromas> ooh
[06:42:54] <crutchy> or some shit
[06:43:25] <chromas> I hope it fluctuates the synergies and paradigm shifts the webscale
[06:43:38] <crutchy> in the cloud
[06:46:50] <crutchy> and sourcetree is like git for gits
[06:47:00] <crutchy> perfect for me :)
[06:47:30] * crutchy wonders if theres a linux version :/
[06:47:31] <chromas> ooh, and mercurial
[06:56:56] <chromas> https://github.com
[06:58:35] <chromas> crutchy: apparently there's also gitk that comes with git, though it tells me it needs a program called "wish"
[07:00:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NSA's Sentry Eagle Program Placed Spies in Private Companies - http://sylnt.us - human-resources
[07:03:12] <crutchy> gitk is in the debian repos. not sure i like the wonky network lines
[07:07:33] <crutchy> farts++
[07:07:33] <Bender> karma - farts: 1
[07:08:51] <chromas> sure it's not already installed? It was for me and I'd never even heard of it
[07:09:07] <chromas> maybe debian separates them
[07:09:09] <chromas> debian++
[07:09:09] <Bender> karma - debian: 32
[07:09:37] <crutchy> debiand start gitk
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[08:29:32] <juggs> mornin all
[08:32:57] <JamesNZ> hugo++
[08:32:57] <Bender> karma - hugo: 2
[08:33:04] <JamesNZ> Hey juggs \o
[08:39:34] <ar> tea++
[08:39:34] <Bender> karma - tea: 88
[08:39:36] <ar> tea++
[08:39:36] <Bender> karma - tea: 89
[08:39:37] <ar> tea++
[08:39:37] <Bender> karma - tea: 90
[08:39:41] <ar> coffee--
[08:39:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 980
[08:39:42] <ar> :)
[08:39:57] <juggs> I'm sure ar has that scripted
[08:40:29] <juggs> 3 teas, 1 coffee then a smile :P
[08:40:30] <ciri> 4
[08:40:31] <ciri> 5
[08:40:32] <ciri> 6
[08:40:34] <ciri> 7
[08:40:36] <ciri> 8
[08:40:38] <ciri> 9
[08:40:40] <ciri> 10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:41:00] <crutchy> ciri's all growd up now cos it can count :p
[08:41:48] <crutchy> nobody could script what ciri did
[08:44:00] <JamesNZ> Magick.
[08:51:37] * crutchy just installed cairo dock
[08:56:59] <crutchy> hmm. cairo dock sucks baws
[09:06:03] <juggs> only tried it once - didn't find useful, removed
[09:08:06] <crutchy> panels++
[09:08:06] <Bender> karma - panels: 1
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[10:00:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lab-Grown Human Pens Coming Soon - http://sylnt.us - My-shame-knows-no-bounds
[10:01:43] <juggs> good work on the typo :D
[10:02:14] <Azrael> :D
[10:09:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:09:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 981
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[10:30:41] <chromas> api++
[10:30:41] <Bender> karma - api: 2
[10:41:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:41:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 982
[10:41:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, chromas
[10:42:51] <chromas> morning TheMightyBuzzard
[10:43:00] <chromas> saw your commit in the spy channel
[10:43:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah yeah, that was yesterday's work
[10:46:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> debating with myself about a <sarc> tag today
[10:48:05] <chromas> <sarc class="sardonic">Hah!</sarc>
[11:07:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> looking like we're either going with just encoding the <> as <> so the tags are visible or doing <abbr title="This is sarcasm.">statement</abbr>
[11:07:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> but i really can't decide
[11:07:50] <chromas> <div class="sarcasm">
[11:08:10] <chromas> er <span
[11:08:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> would break paragraphs, yeah span wouldn't
[11:08:53] <chromas> their sarcasm detector is broken; why not the paragraphs?
[11:09:35] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[11:10:04] <chromas> going to put arch/xfce on this old lap when it decides to see the power supply again
[11:10:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds fun
[11:11:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> weren't you giving it to a nephew or something though?
[11:11:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> or was that from another channel
[11:11:19] <chromas> nah, he's got his own box
[11:11:43] <chromas> but this laptop's idle and I figured I should poke at xfce to learn it a bit
[11:12:17] <chromas> I think he mostly uses it for minecraft
[11:12:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. not a lot to learn really. simple in both overhead and configuration unless you really want to poke hard at it.
[11:12:37] <chromas> and whatever mod installers he can find that install a bunch of windows malware instead of mods
[11:12:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[11:13:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> makes you wonder if the malware will run under wine
[11:15:05] <chromas> not all—it installs a web proxy and points the browsers to it; don't think the IE part will work
[11:15:15] <chromas> internet_explorer++
[11:15:15] <Bender> karma - internet_explorer: 1
[11:15:33] <chromas> I do like the tab coloration ie does
[11:15:55] <chromas> helps me keep them segregated
[11:16:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.buzzfeed.com
[11:16:34] <chromas> like laundry—gotta keep the whites and coloreds separated
[11:16:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> you saying you're a tabist?
[11:18:01] <chromas> ~submit Buzzfeed publishes content not in list form
[11:19:04] <chromas> Ooops, I mean uh, 19.2½ crazy things Buzzfeed published without using a list
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[11:22:44] <chromas> http://www.net-security.org
[11:22:44] <NetCraft> ^ 03Delivering malicious Android apps hidden in image files
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[11:23:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice
[11:24:14] <chromas> http://soylentnews.org
[11:24:14] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN Submission by c0lo 03Poll sugestion
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[11:25:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[11:27:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> shouldn't we be having a paulej72 option on polls?
[11:27:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> sorry bout the ping, pj
[11:27:51] <chromas> it should be in the form of a regex
[11:28:12] <chromas> when applied to the site output, it lists all the devs
[11:29:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> well that's an easy one @devs = ('paulej72', 'TheMightyBuzzard' );
[11:31:31] <chromas> too easy
[11:31:35] <chromas> we shouldn't be able to tell
[11:31:40] <chromas> obfuscation++
[11:31:40] <Bender> karma - obfuscation: 1
[11:31:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> rot13 to the rescue!
[11:31:53] <chromas> now, why doesn't the word "obfuse" exist
[11:35:44] <juggs> because obfuscate does
[11:36:35] <chromas> that's no excuse!
[11:36:49] <chromas> something that's been obfuscated should be "obfuse"
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[11:41:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Virginia Police Have Been Secretively Stockpiling Private Phone Records - http://sylnt.us - go-back-to-sleep-and-let-us-take-care-of-you
[11:43:11] <chromas> Hopefully that includes the area around that one little district and also the records just happen to be leaked
[11:45:05] <juggs> Seems the "Pens" typo comedy didn't really hit the mark :-/
[11:45:42] <chromas> :(
[11:45:52] <chromas> oh wait, I see what you did there
[11:46:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> SN users (and devs) just aren't that meta in their dick and fart jokes.
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[11:46:26] <chromas> not enough emacs users I guess
[11:46:37] <chromas> We only have the Super key
[11:46:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> wah wah wah
[11:48:54] <chromas> When I was little I thought trumpet mutes were sink plungers
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[11:54:12] <juggs> http://debianfork.org
[11:54:14] <NetCraft> ^ 03Roll up your sleeves, we may need to fork Debian.
[11:56:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, saw that yesterday but decided to let another systemd argument pass
[11:56:31] <juggs> what will be will be :)
[11:56:46] * chromas is wearing a tee shirt; can't roll sleeves
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[12:06:57] <chromas> :O
[12:07:21] <chromas> "required key missing from keyring"
[12:10:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, i don't use a keyring
[12:11:59] <chromas> pacstrap
[12:12:08] <chromas> package signing keys
[12:19:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, ouch
[12:19:40] <chromas> pacstrap -G seemed to work
[12:20:02] <chromas> "avoid importing keyring from host" or something
[12:23:42] <chromas> nope. Think this lap needs some bacon
[12:25:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> well of course
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[12:30:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lab-Grown Human Penis Coming Soon - http://sylnt.us - My-shame-knows-no-bounds
[12:32:41] <chromas> aw
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[12:50:38] <Azrael> boooo
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[13:10:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pirates Become Biggest Political Party in Local Czech Election - http://sylnt.us - sharing-is-caring
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[13:28:44] <Blackmoore> wonder how the reaction to the next story will be..
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[13:39:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idear
[13:40:25] <crutchy> ~queue
[13:40:56] <crutchy> herp
[13:42:24] * crutchy wonders what changed
[13:42:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, already got one pull request worked up and merged today. think i'll dick off now.
[13:42:52] <crutchy> time for sleep here
[13:42:55] <crutchy> ~time
[13:42:58] <exec> Wednesday, 22 October 2014 @ 12:42 am GMT+11 - Traralgon VIC, Australia
[13:43:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be there's no nagger up right now, crutchy
[13:43:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> plenty in the subs list
[13:43:23] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[13:43:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 983
[13:43:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:43:25] <Bender> karma - coffee: 984
[13:43:30] <crutchy> could be
[13:43:33] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:43:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 985
[13:44:13] <crutchy> rebased?
[13:45:02] <Blackmoore> yeah plenty in the queue, but i think we need ed approvals. LamX was supposed to get me rights so i can help
[13:46:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, what rebased? oh, no i just synced with upstream master since my pull got merged.
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[13:47:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i may hop over to dev and get it updated. no idea where it is currently
[13:47:59] <Azrael> Blackmoore: 1 more thing in story queue, so I'll shuffle a few more from sub-queue to story-sueue
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[14:06:24] <Blackmoore> thank you Azrael
[14:29:00] <idetuxs> morning
[14:29:20] <juggs> morning idetuxs o/
[14:29:49] <idetuxs> :) hi juggs
[14:31:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hydrogen Gone Wild! - http://sylnt.us - squeaky-pop
[14:31:56] <juggs> just woken up?
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[14:37:37] <idetuxs> not really, it's noon already here
[14:38:08] <idetuxs> a little sleepy thoug
[14:38:11] <idetuxs> ~time
[14:38:13] <exec> Tuesday, 21 October 2014 @ 11:38 am GMT-3 - Buenos Aires, Argentina
[14:38:31] <idetuxs> what's up?
[14:39:19] <juggs> not a lot really :D
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[15:34:44] <Leebert> I always forget about South America. I'm thinking: "Where on earth in the middle of the Atlantic could it already be noon?"
[15:39:47] <juggs> how did you come to ask yourself that question? :/
[15:39:47] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[15:40:10] <Leebert> juggs: when idetuxs said "It's already noon here"
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[15:44:42] <juggs> ahh
[15:48:28] <Leebert> This was a bad idea.
[15:48:36] <Leebert> I looked at a world timezone map...
[15:48:42] <Leebert> which made me start looking at the world...
[15:48:47] <Leebert> which kicked off the wanderlust..
[15:49:00] <Leebert> and now I'm pondering how much it might cost to visit the Galapagos Islands in January.
[15:49:47] <juggs> ha - sounds like a goal
[15:49:47] <Leebert> And, of course, with the magic of the Internet, I can say: "About $1600 for the flight."
[15:50:22] <Leebert> Oh, wait, cheaper... $1200.
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[15:52:36] <Leebert> and I *do* have 2 weeks of vacation in the pot...
[15:55:59] <juggs> should be an interesting place to visit
[16:02:37] <Leebert> Yes. But alas, being single means traveling alone or trying to convince a friend to come.
[16:02:44] <Leebert> So I tend to just not bother.
[16:06:27] <juggs> You never know who you'll meet travelling alone though
[16:09:03] <Leebert> While true, I'm generally not good at meeting people randomly.
[16:09:16] <Leebert> IRC notwithstanding.
[16:11:47] <juggs> save the $1200 then :D
[16:13:41] <Leebert> There ya go. :)
[16:18:01] <juggs> There's ~always~ ways to spend cash, I'm sure something will come up
[16:21:09] <Leebert> Yes. Specifically, my poor house is a cash burning machine.
[16:21:37] <Leebert> On the plus side, I think, $75,000 later, I'm one mortgage payment from being back above water.
[16:21:54] <juggs> that's good news
[16:21:59] <Leebert> Should have walked away from that mortgage... Damn those ethics.
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[16:22:28] <juggs> makes getting another somewhat difficult though
[16:22:30] <Leebert> That's 75k in PRINCIPAL
[16:22:50] <Leebert> Not as much as you might think.
[16:23:11] <Leebert> In fact, a friend who has a long history of bad credit (including stacks of unpaid judgements) is having a house built.
[16:23:13] <cosurgi> [A
[16:24:22] <juggs> Good way to go - particularly if you have a lump of cash to spend on the project.
[16:30:07] <Leebert> juggs: He doesn't. It's financed.
[16:30:26] <Leebert> Point being that even if you have crappy credit, you can still get credit.
[16:30:35] <Leebert> Yay US having learned its lesson from 2008.
[16:30:57] <juggs> usually at an elevated cost surely? or has it all gone silly seasonagain?
[16:31:19] <Leebert> I don't recall what his interest rate it. But he's putting six digits down, so... *shrug*
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[18:05:23] <chromas> Newegg-- # bad request - invalid header
[18:05:23] <Bender> karma - newegg: -1
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[18:36:34] <Leebert> Hmmm. Maybe visiting Arecibo instead. That would actually be interesting, cheaper, and take less time.
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[18:44:40] <juggs> ha - you still looking at maps and places 3 hours later? :D
[18:57:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.cnet.com
[19:11:46] <Leebert> Not exactly. The window is still open, and it's distracting me from my copious spreadsheets.
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[20:11:56] <juggs> Sounds like a good distraction though - spreadsheeting is soooooo dull I find
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[20:36:20] <SoyCow6980> article comments are bugged, expanding causes some to disappear: http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:21] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN article 03 Lab-Grown Human Penis Coming Soon 04(39 comments)
[20:37:12] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, get ya pants on the outside!! ^^^^
[20:38:42] <juggs> can you give an example of a comment that disappears for SoyCow6980? And what threading option are you using? (Improved, Nested etc?)
[20:40:00] <SoyCow6980> cafebabe's +4 comment. Improved threaded. -1 threshold. oldest first
[20:40:57] <SoyCow6980> I expand and contract the comment just above it, the comment disappears until page reload
[20:41:08] <juggs> cid=#108244 ?
[20:41:18] <SoyCow6980> yeah that's the one
[20:42:09] <paulej72> SoyCow6980: what browser and OS
[20:42:20] <chromas> and are you logged in?
[20:42:35] <SoyCow6980> Chrome 40. Win 7. logged in. Expand the comment above the +4 comment
[20:42:35] <juggs> hmm... I contract the one above it and only that one contracts and comes back fine when expanded. cafebabe's in unaffected for me.
[20:43:07] <paulej72> SoyCow6980: which button are you using to expand and contract the comment?
[20:43:22] <SoyCow6980> the + sign
[20:43:29] * juggs steps out of the discussion, I has no win7 to hand.
[20:43:49] <SoyCow6980> if i click the ++ button it shows back up. so i guess this is not a bug?
[20:43:56] <paulej72> Working fine on Safari on Mac 10.9
[20:45:10] <SoyCow6980> hold on one minute
[20:45:10] <paulej72> I am checking in chrome. I have just restarted it to update to 40
[20:48:09] <SoyCow6980> this is the behavior: http://puu.sh
[20:48:33] <ar> https://www.mitre.org
[20:50:56] <paulej72> SoyCow6980: you do know that 40 is the dev channel version. beta is 39 and stable is 38. I think the bug is in some new js engine code in the dev version of Chrome
[20:52:08] <SoyCow6980> http://puu.sh maybe, and dev-m is definitely full of bugs. just seems like a soylent bug
[20:53:23] <paulej72> I do not see the issue on Chrome 38 on a Mac, and this is the frist time anyone has had an issue with the collaping comments
[20:53:45] <crutchy> SoyCow6980, from your pic seems like it
[20:54:08] <crutchy> are there any weird characters in the comment that borked?
[20:54:12] <crutchy> anything different
[20:54:13] <juggs> not replicating it in FF 33, chromium 37 or Pale Moon 25 on Mint 17.
[20:54:44] <SoyCow6980> one more thing is that if you expand and contract the +4 comment, clicking as in step 1 in my pic doesn't hide the +4 comment. so you need to refresh to replicate if you did that
[20:55:08] <juggs> "Le fix"++
[20:55:14] <juggs> bah
[20:56:15] <SoyCow6980> obviously now that I know about this "expand all comments in thread" button, it's not a big deal for me. just seems like some incorrect expansion behavior is all.
[20:57:21] <juggs> expand / contract the +4 comment itself using just the single + is working fine here in browsers as above. :/
[20:57:36] <crutchy> hmm yeah i must admit when i look again at the marked up screen piccys i can't find any problems. maybe i'm not ussed to sseeing it though cos i usually just surf -1/-1
[20:57:40] <juggs> I'm not helping am I :D
[20:57:52] <crutchy> my ssssss key is sssshit
[20:58:09] <SoyCow6980> well if it can't be replicated that's fine I guess
[20:58:21] <juggs> crutchy, look at the lower pic... the +4 comment has vamoosed
[20:58:33] <juggs> looks like a siplay / rendering glitch
[20:58:37] <juggs> display*
[20:58:50] <SoyCow6980> http://puu.sh
[20:59:01] <paulej72> I think the dom is getting borked by somehting new in Chrome 40
[20:59:05] <crutchy> oh shit yeah it happened to me too
[20:59:22] <SoyCow6980> what browser crutchy
[20:59:40] <juggs> oh wait - have different breakthrough set...
[20:59:42] <juggs> teseting again
[20:59:46] <crutchy> iceweasel 31.2.0
[20:59:49] <juggs> man - typos!!
[20:59:54] <crutchy> debian squeeze
[20:59:59] <paulej72> OK I see the issue now.
[21:00:31] <paulej72> SoyCow6980: the key was the +4 on breakthrough
[21:00:32] <juggs> replicated FF 33 / Mint 17
[21:01:16] <paulej72> Great now I have to get into a JS grove again to fix this bitch
[21:01:38] <juggs> replicated Chromium 37 / Mint 17
[21:01:54] <juggs> I think that's enough :D
[21:02:02] <SoyCow6980> so it wouldn't even happen with +5 comments then? #bug #rare
[21:02:13] <juggs> Thanks for bringing it to paulej72's attention :D
[21:02:18] <crutchy> the threshold/breakthrough and all the ++/-- button thingys is too complimicated for me to work out
[21:03:28] <crutchy> SoyCow6980, +5 comments are overrated
[21:03:43] <crutchy> its a feature!
[21:04:04] <paulej72> SoyCow6980: I think that the point was the child was not hidden while the parent is. Upon expanding that, something is getting borked. The code for this is fairly simple so I am not sure what would cause it. It would probably happen if you set breakthrough to anthing between 1 and 4 in this case.
[21:04:11] <SoyCow6980> clearly +4 comments are underrated. they're being oppressed
[21:04:38] <juggs> ...... that could spur a Monty Python sketch if you're not careful!
[21:04:56] <crutchy> i blame it on RoR
[21:05:22] <crutchy> not not how, but i'm sure its to blame
[21:05:27] <crutchy> not not?
[21:05:31] <crutchy> *sure
[21:05:34] <paulej72> The missing comment is a special case though it is a long one that has a expand button at the bottom, I think this is triggering a special event that has not been anticipated in the code
[21:05:52] <juggs> https://www.youtube.com
[21:05:53] <NetCraft> ^ 03HELP ! I'm being repressed ! - YouTube
[21:05:58] <paulej72> blame Canada
[21:06:01] <juggs> close enough :D
[21:06:01] <crutchy> feck. must be time to go to work and switch off
[21:06:11] <juggs> have fune
[21:06:27] <crutchy> cyas. haf fun with your js :p
[21:06:49] <SoyCow6980> yeah I wondered if the length had something to do with it. there's been weird stuff related to the expand comment code. like comments having an "expand link" but then they don't show any additional characters
[21:06:55] <paulej72> fuck I need to go to the store for food :(
[21:07:29] <juggs> want me to fling the bug report into the github for you pj as a marker?
[21:08:43] <paulej72> SoyCow6980: that bug is something different. The code to shorten a comment is fixed at some lenght, but does not see how much is left. I want to fix it so it is a bit fuzzy on the length, but the code is not very well suited to do this with. I need to make some radical changes to make it happen
[21:08:55] <paulej72> sure juggs
[21:09:26] <SoyCow6980> alright well good luck, thanks for checking it out
[21:09:30] <juggs> will do - thought I'd offer as you seemed short of time and I'm sat on my ass with a beer and some tunes playing :D
[21:09:37] <juggs> thanks SoyCow6980
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[21:10:47] <paulej72> OK food time and then home.
[21:18:55] <chromas> heh http://socialtimes.com
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[21:46:54] <juggs> paulej72, https://github.com
[21:47:56] <juggs> does Netcraft only respond to urls on their own line with no preamble?
[21:48:01] <juggs> https://github.com
[21:48:16] <juggs> http://github.com
[21:48:18] <NetCraft> ^ 03JScript - Contract expand/contract comment makes long child comment disappear · Issue #371 · SoylentNews/slashcode ... ( https://github.com )
[21:48:41] <juggs> NetCraft - you need to learn ssl/tls you dumb git
[21:50:54] <chromas> It thought the title was in the url
[21:51:03] <chromas> the second went because it was a redirect
[21:52:22] <juggs> https://github.com
[21:52:57] <juggs> mmm - how does it determine whether the title is in the URL? Length or something?
[21:53:17] <juggs> and sorry I was was way off on the ssl/tls thing there :D
[21:54:04] <chromas> you'd better be! harumph!
[21:54:16] <chromas> uses curl for grabbing
[21:55:26] <chromas> it splits the title into 'words' and checks the url for more than 5
[21:55:32] <chromas> could use some smartening up though
[21:56:17] <chromas> maybe it could be a percentage
[22:14:41] <juggs> Man - I just typed a book then realised I missed one of your replies :D So you are grabbing <title> from the html and breaking it out to "words"?
[22:15:06] <juggs> what are you coding NetCraft in btw?
[22:15:40] <chromas> An actual book? Or an NCommander-style article/comment? :D
[22:16:30] <chromas> Yeah, it uses a function to split the title into array elements by type (symbols, letters/numbers)
[22:16:55] <chromas> then does a case-insensitive search for each one
[22:16:57] <chromas> it's Pascal
[22:21:34] <juggs> Yah - I see a lot of matches between that url and the page title - but only the uninteresting stuff SoylentNews slashcode issue(s)... that's problematic for something like github. Tricky nut to crack.
[22:22:46] <chromas> I'm fancying it up now
[22:25:55] <chromas> also thought I'd fixed the part where is says things like "^ SN article Close (/stats.soylentnews.org/piwik/"; comments)"
[22:26:37] <juggs> Perhaps you need an override facility whereby you can have a config file to say for site www.X.com ignore matches in fields N,N,N or last three fields or w/e - so you can tweak it for sites like Git that put so much noise in the <title> but you know where the noise is.
[22:27:50] <chromas> that's a good idea
[22:39:41] <swiss> sr20det++
[22:39:41] <Bender> karma - sr20det: 21
[22:39:46] <swiss> woops, it's over
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[22:56:41] <juggs> swiss, find your boost leak?
[23:00:29] <swiss> juggs: i'm pretty sure it's the stock BOV
[23:02:44] <paulej72> ~define bov
[23:02:46] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3bov: Device that relieves pressure from a turbocharger when throttle is closed. Designed in 1960 for factory turbocharged vehicles. Blow Off Valve
[23:03:47] <paulej72> damn that was too conventioal for ubandictonary
[23:04:02] <swiss> lol
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[23:59:41] <Leebert> <-- in full-on rantfest mode on Soylent.