#Soylent | Logs for 2014-10-16
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[23:40:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Nigeria Stopped Ebola - http://sylnt.us - connecting-the-dots
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[21:30:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Technology Heats Up the Adultery Arms Race - http://sylnt.us - domestic-spying
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[20:58:55] <chromas> bye
[20:58:52] <chromas> :(--
[20:58:50] <crutchy> laterz
[20:58:47] <crutchy> ah crap gotta to to workipoos
[20:58:18] <Bender> karma - respect_ma_authoritah: -1
[20:58:18] <chromas> respect_ma_authoritah--
[20:57:58] <Bender> karma - securetah: -1
[20:57:58] <crutchy> securetah--
[20:57:48] <Bender> karma - security: -1
[20:57:48] <crutchy> security--
[20:57:44] <crutchy> yeah
[20:57:33] <chromas> from scratch
[20:57:27] <chromas> rewrite
[20:56:30] <crutchy> it quotes everything
[20:56:17] <crutchy> can't seem to make it accept generic shell arguments though :/
[20:55:57] <crutchy> that's better
[20:55:53] <exec> sync.sh
[20:55:53] <exec> push.sh
[20:55:52] <exec> publish.sh
[20:55:51] <crutchy> ~ls
[20:55:49] <exec> successfully added exec line
[20:55:48] <crutchy> ~exec-add ~ls|0|0|1|1|crutchy|||0|ls ./sh
[20:55:01] <crutchy> hmm think i did that wrong
[20:54:47] <crutchy> ~ls
[20:54:44] <exec> successfully added exec line
[20:54:43] <crutchy> ~exec-add ~ls|0|0|0|1|crutchy|||0|ls
[20:54:27] <crutchy> it did ls ''
[20:54:23] <crutchy> bugger
[20:54:08] <crutchy> ~ls
[20:54:01] <crutchy> not sure if this would work
[20:53:50] <exec> successfully added exec line
[20:53:49] <crutchy> ~exec-add ~ls|0|0|0|1|crutchy|||0|ls %%trailing%%
[20:50:53] <chromas> need a shellbot
[20:50:29] <crutchy> why type in a terminal when you can flood an irc channel?
[20:50:05] <crutchy> damn someone should make that bot scripty
[20:49:44] <crutchy> ~apt search *fooshes*
[20:49:40] <Leebert> ooo; I need to write an indespensible app called "Debian Package", so people then have to "apt-get install debian-package"
[20:48:52] <crutchy> fooshes sounds like a good name for a debian package
[20:48:41] <chromas> spiderfooshes—they webscale
[20:48:41] <Leebert> You need to get as many users on board as possible; that whole network effect thing is crucial in social networks.
[20:48:30] <chromas> crutchy: spiderfooshes
[20:48:29] <crutchy> lots of rust scale there
[20:48:18] <crutchy> or a rusty old building
[20:48:17] * chromas closes fugly gmail page; mutters about takin' 'way my custom color scheme a few years ago
[20:48:16] <Leebert> Let me rephrase it then:
[20:48:06] <crutchy> just gotta get plenty of fooshes. they have lots of scale
[20:47:20] <chromas> Doesn't need to scale; just need someone to dump cash on you then you can go off and do something else
[20:46:51] <Leebert> I mean, that's like Job One on a social networking site, because if you magically get lots of press you need to leverage that stuff while it's still hot.
[20:46:25] <Leebert> And then you get boneheaded things like Ello, which gets its 15 minutes of fame but wasn't designed properly to scale.
[20:45:52] <Leebert> It was because gmail was offering a gigabyte of mailbox space when everyone else was giving you like 20 MB
[20:45:35] <Leebert> It amazes me how many people try to duplicate that without realizing that the reason everyone wanted a gmail invite wasn't because gmail was cool
[20:45:09] <Leebert> Ya.
[20:44:57] <chromas> it was there years after they opened up to everyone
[20:44:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 960
[20:44:46] <crutchy> coffee++
[20:44:44] <chromas> aw; I was going to see how many invites I still had in gmail but they finally took away the notification
[20:44:02] <crutchy> flash at the campus and you'll own a box
[20:43:44] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[20:43:44] <crutchy> lol or flash!
[20:43:38] <Leebert> Hmm. I *did* buy a gmail invite Back in The Day...
[20:43:36] <crutchy> don't forget to take a word file or ttf font with you
[20:42:52] * chromas heads down to the campus to attempt box ownage
[20:42:44] * crutchy wishes he owned a Box
[20:42:35] <chromas> From Windoze to Windows to a Box
[20:42:20] <crutchy> o.0
[20:41:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - It's 2014 and You Can Still Own a Box Using a Word File, a TTF Font, or Flash - http://sylnt.us - separation-of-concerns
[20:34:14] <chromas> moar users!
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[20:34:02] <chromas> See ya; thanks for coming over
[20:33:47] <srobert> Should be. I gotta go. Take care.
[20:33:09] <chromas> at least we'll have better code to fork from
[20:32:10] <srobert> lol. If history repeats in 20 years soylentnews will be issuing 8-digit ID's and we'll be complaining about the site.
[20:30:54] <chromas> The staff members do take bribes—$300 minimum
[20:29:33] <Leebert> I have many sads because I had 1694 on /.
[20:28:26] <srobert> 4099 vs 4803
[20:27:41] <srobert> lol. No it's just a little higher.
[20:23:06] <chromas> If it's lower then keep trying new ones until you get it—can never have too many sockpuppet accounts :)
[20:22:36] <chromas> Good timing
[20:22:24] <srobert> I've got a login ID. Very near the same 4-digit ID I have on the other site.
[20:21:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Anyone Can Learn Programming - http://sylnt.us - teach-yourself-C-in-twenty-four-hours
[20:18:07] <chromas> I think pipedot's just a bit older
[20:18:07] <srobert> The site looks good. Like the other one used to.
[20:17:07] <chromas> ~February I think
[20:17:03] <chromas> It was around the time dice pushed beta a second time without changing a thing since we told them it sucked the first time
[20:16:21] <srobert> I posted a "fork it" comment months ago on that other site. I don't know if I planted a seed or encouraged it. But glad to see it's underway.
[20:15:22] <chromas> many moons ago
[20:13:23] <srobert> When did soylentnews.org start?
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[19:41:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - It's 2014 and You Can Still Own a Windows Box Using a Word File or Font - http://sylnt.us - separation-of-concerns
[19:16:35] <chromas> from the cough-environment-variables-anyone? dept
[18:40:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - It's 2014 and You Can Still Pwn a Windoze Box Using a Word File or Font - http://sylnt.us - separation-of-concerns
[18:34:05] <Leebert> 20 freaking years of using Unix... and there's still something new to learn every day.
[18:33:46] * Leebert just discovered multiple -f arguments to tail, AND multitail
[17:11:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 27,000 .NYC Domain Names Registered after One Week - http://sylnt.us - I-less-than-three-N-Y
[15:59:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> Hrm... anyone with an earpiece in then.
[15:59:00] <Leebert> There aren't really too many of those.
[15:57:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> you need a monkey trained to throw poop at motorcades.
[15:57:38] <Leebert> Much more afraid of out-of-control law enforcement; been on the wrong side of that a few times.
[15:57:16] <Leebert> I'm not afraid of terrorists, and I'm currenly 4 blocks from the Capitol building which puts me at risk way more than the average American.
[15:56:44] <Leebert> Agree.
[15:56:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> Personally, I don't give two shits about terrorists if all they can manage is to be less annoying than lightning strikes.
[15:55:06] <Leebert> you mean "photographers"?
[15:54:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> Terrorists apparently.
[15:52:54] <Leebert> And I'm like: What on earth are you going to shoot in a train station that requires not just a rifle, but burst and/or full auto?
[15:52:28] <Leebert> Every now and then in Washington Union Station, Amtrak police are walking around with M4's.
[15:52:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> them n game wardens, yeah.
[15:52:07] <Leebert> That makes... sense?
[15:51:56] <Leebert> Park rangers with AR-15's eh?
[15:50:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> park rangers around here are flipping psychos. get given ar15s and love any excuse to use them.
[15:49:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah, nod nod.
[15:49:43] <Leebert> It had its own DC contingent.
[15:49:37] <Leebert> Occupy Wall Street.
[15:49:33] <Leebert> I guess because they're used to protest events and such.
[15:49:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> whatsa OWS?
[15:49:19] <Leebert> They handled OWS very admirably.
[15:49:09] <Leebert> Actually, the US Park Police in DC are really good.
[15:48:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> most US cops are. they don't get Don't Be A Dick training like the brits do.
[15:47:55] <Leebert> They're kinda jerks.
[15:47:44] <Leebert> I've been less than nice to secret service police when they made me walk the long way on the south lawn because it was night.
[15:46:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, they're prolly just annoyed about traffic though.
[15:46:21] <Leebert> Even the urbanists, who usually rejoice in the closing of streets.
[15:46:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> there simply is no good political reporting on tv
[15:46:07] <Leebert> I know that DC locals are mad at the secret service kneejerk reaction to consider increasing the security buffer of the WH
[15:45:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> fox will always go out of their way to support the neocons and everyone else will always go out of their way to support the SJWs
[15:45:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> really have no idea who's mad about what though. i had to quit watching tv news.
[15:42:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya think? i'm pretty sure putting a pet rock in charge would be fine with them.
[15:41:12] <Leebert> Sure, but a girl was in charge, that alone was enough to rile up the republicans.
[15:40:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> no need to distract from it
[15:40:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, dems won't ever say a bad word about the administration and reps don't care if he gets himself shot.
[15:38:58] <Leebert> Ebola is a Secret Service conspiracy to distract attention from white house security.
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[15:11:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lockheed Claims Fusion Breakthrough - http://sylnt.us - world-of-tomorrow
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[14:50:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> funky
[14:49:10] <ar> 1.16699016 × 10-8 hertz
[14:49:10] <ar> google can calculate that: once in a blue moon =
[14:49:03] <ar> huh
[14:47:59] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: it works once in a blue moon
[14:30:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, solved. https://addons.palemoon.org
[14:25:08] <chromas> Haven't run into that but the theme I use sometimes isn't kept up to date and needs the max version adjusted
[14:22:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> man what the crap. adblock plus isn't working in pale moon 25
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[14:20:06] <chromas> Nuke Africa
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[14:10:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.inquisitr.com
[13:45:40] <Konomi> 3g a different kind of bad to dial up
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[13:34:02] <Leebert> They do hate freedom, after all.
[13:33:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> I blame the french.
[13:32:08] <Leebert> I blame Australia.
[13:30:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Earth’s Magnetic Field Could Flip within a Human Lifetime - http://sylnt.us - world-turned-upside-down
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[12:56:58] <Bender> karma - poodles: -1
[12:56:58] <chromas> poodles--
[12:56:51] <Bender> karma - shaved_poodles: -1
[12:56:51] <chromas> Shaved_poodles--
[12:50:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Bees are being Used Instead of Fungicides in Australia - http://sylnt.us - cheap-employees || SSLv3 "Poodle" Vulnerability Revealed - http://sylnt.us - curly-fur
[12:34:54] <crutchy> including its naughty bits
[12:34:18] <Bender> karma - slash: -2
[12:34:18] <crutchy> slash-- # for indecently flashing its insides all over the interwebz for all to see
[12:32:36] <Bender> karma - slash: -1
[12:32:36] <chromas> Slash-- # for being between 90 and 180 degrees
[12:31:52] <Bender> karma - slash: 0
[12:31:52] <chromas> Slash++ # for playing guitar
[12:31:46] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://sylnt.us
[12:31:39] <crutchy> ~suggest-api a queue op to get the number of accepted articles waiting to be put out
[12:31:37] <Bender> karma - slash: -1
[12:31:37] <chromas> Slash-- # for being obtuse
[12:29:52] * TheMightyBuzzard gives up and plays video games
[12:28:05] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC, Australia - currently 48°F / 9°C, clear, wind W at 3 mph, humidity 97% - Thursday chance of rain (39°F-57°F / 4°C-14°C), Friday partly cloudy (41°F-63°F / 5°C-17°C), Saturday partly cloudy (55°F-75°F / 13°C-24°C), Sunday partly cloudy (41°F-79°F / 5°C-26°C) - source: Google
[12:28:03] <crutchy> ~weather
[12:27:21] <crutchy> i just turned the heater on so exec isn't cold any more :D
[12:26:51] <chromas> :( I get fewer Rs
[12:26:20] <exec> Weather for Walla Walla, WA - currently 46°F / 8°C, clear, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 78% - Thursday partly cloudy (45°F-64°F / 7°C-18°C), Friday partly cloudy (52°F-70°F / 11°C-21°C), Saturday partly cloudy (48°F-73°F / 9°C-23°C), Sunday partly cloudy (52°F-75°F / 11°C-24°C) - source: Google
[12:26:19] <chromas> ~weather
[12:25:48] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <exec> Weather for Ada, OK - burrrently 52°F / 11°C, clear, wind S at 6 mph, humidity 88% - Thursday partly cloudy (52°F-82°F / 11°C-28°C), Friday partly cloudy (50°F-81°F / 10°C-27°C), Saturday clear (45°F-72°F / 7°C-22°C), Sunday partly cloudy (52°F-72°F / 11°C-22°C) - source: Google
[12:25:47] <chromas> exec: s/c/b/
[12:25:13] <crutchy> that's how you say it when its cold :p
[12:24:57] <crutchy> yes
[12:23:17] <chromas> Currrently
[12:22:12] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK - currrently 52°F / 11°C, clear, wind S at 6 mph, humidity 88% - Thursday partly cloudy (52°F-82°F / 11°C-28°C), Friday partly cloudy (50°F-81°F / 10°C-27°C), Saturday clear (45°F-72°F / 7°C-22°C), Sunday partly cloudy (52°F-72°F / 11°C-22°C) - source: Google
[12:22:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[12:21:46] <crutchy> stoopid bot
[12:21:41] <Bender> karma - exec: 14
[12:21:41] <crutchy> exec--
[12:21:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> go bout yer business then
[12:21:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, sure nuff
[12:21:07] <crutchy> ~queue
[12:21:01] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, i think its already in the far queue
[12:20:38] <chromas> Giant radioactive rubber pants! The pants command me
[12:20:37] <NetCraft> ^ 03Lockheed says makes breakthrough on fusion energy project| Reuters
[12:20:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> someone sub this http://www.reuters.com
[12:20:15] <crutchy> with our army of pants
[12:19:49] <chromas> To take over the soylent
[12:19:40] <chromas> Secret plot
[12:19:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> feh to #
[12:19:30] <crutchy> brainctl stop pants
[12:19:24] <chromas> #
[12:19:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> what's a tama? no, wait, do i care what a tama is? && what's a tama?
[12:19:05] * chromas gives crutchy brainctl
[12:18:35] <crutchy> its tama's fault i have pants on the brain
[12:17:48] <crutchy> oops i mean tissues
[12:17:23] * crutchy offers Konomi some pants
[12:17:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> sad-face for you, Konomi
[12:16:36] <Konomi> doubt I could tor uses a custom compiled one with fixes for privacy soo....
[12:16:13] <crutchy> has it already trickled down?
[12:16:10] <chromas> Konomi: can you just use older ff in a separate profile?
[12:16:05] <crutchy> i thought the crappy slow new ff was still just in the nightly build
[12:15:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, the pulling stories out of the db parts can stay. considering dropping entirely our slash-specific modules for feed creation though.
[12:15:17] <chromas> crutchy: or maybe it's just save to open the door now
[12:15:17] <Konomi> but the tor browser uses the new one now and my eyes bleed
[12:15:15] * crutchy imagines a vw combi van with fishing rods hanging out the back windows
[12:15:07] <Konomi> I think I can keep using the stable branch of debian to stick with a lower version forever
[12:14:38] <chromas> That's where your api comes in handy. To the buzzardmobile!
[12:14:25] <crutchy> chromas, does that mean you're going to "switch off" to any conversation about ff's new power switch?
[12:13:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i'm damned near ready to do exactly that on the start from scratch thing. slash is pretty jacked up in the amount of bs necessary to create an rss/atom feed.
[12:12:45] <Bender> karma - iceweasel: 2
[12:12:45] <crutchy> iceweasel++ # for being slow to catch up
[12:12:44] <chromas> ^ same
[12:12:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> no complaints yet
[12:12:24] <chromas> I, for one, so turned off by the power switch
[12:12:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i jumped ship and went to pale moon
[12:11:55] <chromas> Yep
[12:11:53] <Konomi> I want to fucking stab someone ._.
[12:11:47] <Konomi> the "new" firefox ui has a power button icon for the quit option
[12:11:38] <chromas> A cms is just a fancy mail merge
[12:11:31] <crutchy> i thinks its about using different methods to create content, like a git type thing (for example)
[12:10:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'all varnish does though
[12:10:53] <chromas> Dunno what that would be
[12:10:35] <crutchy> but not just caching
[12:10:19] <crutchy> i think its more about separating content creation from content delivery. i guess kinda like slash and varnish
[12:09:04] <chromas> cms is good because 'content creators' don't have to know what they're doing
[12:08:03] <crutchy> theres people out there trying to make website content delivery more efficient by redesigning the cms out of it
[12:07:26] <crutchy> cms just constructs it
[12:07:22] <chromas> Like notepad
[12:07:17] <crutchy> when you think about it, what comes to the browser is just html, css, images, etc
[12:06:40] <crutchy> using other means to administer and construct static website content
[12:06:27] <chromas> Do they still exist?
[12:06:16] <chromas> Oh, I ruined the evenness
[12:06:08] <crutchy> i was reading a bit about cms-free websites today
[12:06:00] <Bender> karma - pascal: 37
[12:06:00] <chromas> pascal++
[12:05:49] <chromas> Have you tried turning it off and on again?
[12:05:35] <Bender> karma - pascal: 36
[12:05:35] <crutchy> pascal++
[12:05:25] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: time to start from scratch
[12:04:48] <SedBot9000> <chromas> I think it comes with nontoxic crayons
[12:04:48] <chromas> s/ / nontoxic /5
[12:04:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg
[11:57:10] <chromas> I think it comes with crayons
[11:54:27] <crutchy> that's a weird looking gedit
[11:48:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess it could be using sprintf
[11:48:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> would almost have to use ord() to turn it to decimal and not finding where that's being done.
[11:47:42] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: maybe it encodes to decimal then used converts :)
[11:46:43] <Bender> karma - gnome3: -3
[11:46:43] <chromas> Gnome3--
[11:44:56] <chromas> crutchy: http://worldofgnome.org
[11:40:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> several places stuff gets encoded for xml and damned if i can find the one turning & into &
[11:36:47] <chromas> Everything was shoved into a single menu in the corner
[11:36:29] <chromas> gedit didn't look anything at all like that for me
[11:34:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 959
[11:34:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:31:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Study Reports an Increase in the Diversity of Scientific Publishing - http://sylnt.us - nonelite-is-non-elite-or-none-lite?
[11:26:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 958
[11:26:19] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:25:40] <crutchy> ok i'm happy as a pig in shit now: http://picpaste.com
[11:23:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> we're encoding in the wrong places. should not be encoding stuff before it hits the db but as it comes out
[11:18:21] <crutchy> its in the debian repos :/
[11:17:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm....
[11:13:22] <crutchy> oh fuck yeah! https://github.com
[11:12:27] <crutchy> if only gedit had that i would be happy as a pig in shit
[11:12:18] <NetCraft> ^ 03Revenge of the Nerds - NERDS! - YouTube
[11:12:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[11:12:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03Notepad++ Function List
[11:12:08] <crutchy> http://notepad-plus-plus.org
[11:12:07] <crutchy> ooh
[11:09:36] <chromas> NUUUUURRRDS!
[11:08:47] <crutchy> yummo
[11:08:44] <crutchy> might mix nerds into some icecream
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[11:06:55] <crutchy> gedit is part of gnome
[10:59:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> never really used it. gvim ftw.
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[10:53:07] <chromas> I tried out gedit. Looks a little like it may be related to firefox or gnome
[10:47:54] <Bender> karma - morning: -2
[10:47:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> morning--
[10:44:34] <Bender> karma - pants: -3
[10:44:34] <crutchy> pants--
[10:44:22] <Leebert> Guess I should go put on pants.
[10:44:08] <Leebert> Oh, it's morning? That explains it.
[10:38:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> my ass is teh slow n draggy this mornin
[10:37:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 957
[10:37:19] <crutchy> coffee++
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[10:35:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 956
[10:35:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:20:36] <chromas> it's got better virtual desktops than kde
[10:20:19] <chromas> 0. I guess it's at zen now
[10:20:03] <Bender> karma - enlightenment: 0
[10:20:03] <chromas> enlightenment++
[10:14:49] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (93 aliases)
[10:14:48] <crutchy> ~rehash
[10:10:44] <chromas> lol
[10:10:27] <crutchy> maybe i should run the github feed in #dev, just so there's at least something going on in there :p
[10:09:22] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 109
[10:09:22] <chromas> crutchy++
[10:09:20] <Bender> karma - exec: 15
[10:09:20] <chromas> exec++
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[09:28:12] <Bender> karma - compose_key: 1
[09:28:12] <chromas> compose_key++
[09:27:21] <ar> i like those arrows as you can enter them with alt+[yui] (+shift for ↑) with setxkbmap -layout pl -variant basic -option ctrl:nocaps
[09:26:41] <ar> ←↓→↑
[09:26:33] <ar> →
[09:22:59] <SirFinkus> I use ➤
[09:22:23] <chromas> you probably need a font that has it; it's 
[09:22:01] <chromas> 07,12so if this doesn't have an arrow for you → 12
[09:21:34] <chromas> it's a private use char, like many of the emoji
[09:21:27] <crutchy> i put 00 as bg cos i couldn't remember the default color
[09:21:01] <chromas> oh yeah and half height
[09:20:54] <chromas> that would look right except by background isn't white :D
[09:20:44] <crutchy> yeah its only half height :(
[09:20:29] <crutchy> 02,04dffff04,00▶
[09:19:05] <chromas> 07,12 teehee 12
[09:18:25] <crutchy> that one isn't full height from (vague) memory
[09:18:14] <NetCraft> ^ 03&? — Black Right-Pointing Triangle (U+25B6) — Geometric Shapes — Unicode character table
[09:18:13] <crutchy> like this: http://unicode-table.com but full height
[09:17:40] <SirFinkus> I'd probably like zsh more, but I can't be assed setting it up
[09:16:57] <crutchy> couldn't find a nice full height arrow
[09:16:43] <chromas> just unicode chars
[09:16:38] <JamesNZ> The only thing I don't like about fish is the way it prints the autocomplete options instead of temporarily displaying them like zsh.
[09:16:37] <chromas>
[09:16:33] <crutchy> i wanted to put the timestamp that exec spits out every line into a shady bar like fish
[09:16:08] <ciri> heh
[09:16:07] <crutchy> lol
[09:16:03] <chromas> you could cowsay the current directory
[09:15:55] <ciri> doing great here
[09:15:53] <crutchy> how do they make those shady bars
[09:15:52] <chromas> I have that but I'm pretty sure you can have it in bash. in fact you can put whatever you want for the prompt—even cowsay
[09:15:19] <crutchy> oh yeah that piccy chromas. thems the arrow shady bar thingys :)
[09:15:13] <JamesNZ> Heh, or that^
[09:14:55] <chromas> nah it needs to be stuffed and wireframed so I can pose it
[09:14:49] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Might have been zsh with oh-my-zsh?
[09:14:41] <crutchy> or burying it in a hole
[09:14:36] <chromas> http://cd1.eju.tv
[09:14:17] <crutchy> there's always stuffing it into a box option
[09:13:55] <crutchy> i think it might not be free
[09:13:48] <chromas> Ask Soylent: What options are there re stuffing one's pet?
[09:13:45] <crutchy> looked awesome when xlefay showed me, but i cant remember name
[09:13:29] <crutchy> there was one that had shaded arrow bar thingys on the left hand side of the shell (as a prompt i think)
[09:13:00] <Bender> karma - fish: 6
[09:13:00] <SirFinkus> fish++
[09:12:58] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (93 aliases)
[09:12:57] <crutchy> ~rehash
[09:12:54] <SirFinkus> I like it
[09:12:50] <SirFinkus> oh, fish
[09:11:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft’s Quantum Mechanics - http://sylnt.us - getting-a-bit-closer
[09:10:57] <chromas> f
[09:10:53] <chromas> riendly interactive shell
[09:10:31] <chromas> apt-cache search fish
[09:10:19] <crutchy> typing 'fish' into google is dumb
[09:10:19] <chromas> could probably do that in bash too
[09:10:12] <chromas> yeah although that's not really part of it
[09:10:00] <chromas> or pj
[09:09:58] <crutchy> is that the one with the cool arrow thingys?
[09:09:42] <crutchy> oh that might be the one xlefay suggested all those eons ago
[09:09:36] <chromas> instead of bash or zsh or something
[09:09:27] <chromas> shell
[09:09:22] <crutchy> fish?
[09:09:03] <chromas> don't really remember the git commands but I start to type and fish gives me hints
[09:08:44] <Bender> karma - fish: 5
[09:08:44] <chromas> fish++
[09:06:18] <crutchy> or just accept
[09:05:44] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> gotta put an accept-content header or something maybe
[09:05:44] <crutchy> s/application/accept-content/
[09:05:18] <crutchy> gotta put an application header or something maybe
[09:04:58] <crutchy> https://api.github.com
[09:04:57] <crutchy> ooh looks like githuib may have feeds
[09:03:41] <chromas> it most certainly is, ciri
[09:03:32] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[09:03:31] <chromas> lol @ 400TB :)
[09:02:15] <crutchy> hax0rzing is not my thing
[09:01:35] <NetCraft> ^ 03ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved
[09:01:35] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org&&http:
[09:01:16] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[09:01:15] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org'&&400TB
[09:00:40] <crutchy> can't get around that damn whitelist not allowing double-quote :p
[09:00:06] <chromas> yeah without the ' it took the whole thing
[08:59:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[08:59:54] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org'&&ls
[08:59:33] <NetCraft> ^ 03ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved
[08:59:33] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org&&ls
[08:57:12] <crutchy> SedBot9000 has the runs :D
[08:56:33] * chromas shows himself out the door
[08:56:32] <Bender> karma - passwofd: 1
[08:56:32] <crutchy> passwofd++
[08:56:26] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <crutchy> shitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshit
[08:56:26] <chromas> crutchy: s/./shit/g
[08:56:21] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <crutchy> shit
[08:56:21] <chromas> crutchy: s/.*/shit/g
[08:56:05] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> i keep shit like passwofd and data files in other subdirectories or the parent directory. hence why you see stuff like ../data/file
[08:56:05] <crutchy> s/or/of/
[08:55:53] <crutchy> i keep shit like password and data files in other subdirectories or the parent directory. hence why you see stuff like ../data/file
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[08:54:25] <chromas> I guess there's gitignore or whatever, but what I did was make a separate directory and linked in the files I wanted to put up, so some like url_title4 are missing
[08:53:11] <Bender> karma - chromas: 45
[08:53:11] <crutchy> chromas++
[08:53:06] <crutchy> ah looks like it has a whitelist filter here: https://github.com
[08:51:44] <crutchy> does monopoly strip quotes from URLs?
[08:51:24] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[08:51:23] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org"&&ls"
[08:50:47] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[08:50:46] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org" && cat /etc/passwd "
[08:49:56] <crutchy> hmm
[08:49:02] * crutchy has never directly used curl or wget
[08:48:28] <chromas> curl defaults to writing to stdout and doesn't follow redirects (or was that wget?)
[08:47:56] <chromas> slightly different defaults but they're basically the same thing
[08:47:40] <chromas> you can also use wget
[08:47:32] <crutchy> :/
[08:47:27] <crutchy> bash: curl: command not found
[08:47:26] <crutchy> jared@debian:~$ curl
[08:46:54] <chromas> well chit
[08:46:12] <crutchy> can't see any url_title4 anywhere
[08:45:02] <chromas> that's what I get for putting versioning in the filename :D
[08:44:40] <chromas> url_title4
[08:44:30] <chromas> is that still there? I do need to update
[08:43:57] <crutchy> https://github.com
[08:42:17] <chromas> well but the protection is countered by the Blight of Hackishness
[08:41:47] <chromas> in urlstuff.pas I think
[08:41:22] <crutchy> i can see if i can think of any ways might be able to exploit. probably won't cos its protected by the Aura Of Pascal Awesomesauce
[08:40:59] <chromas> yeah
[08:40:33] <crutchy> is it in your github?
[08:39:45] <chromas> or the "'"
[08:39:41] <chromas> I think it cut off at the '
[08:39:19] <crutchy> i suck at hackering
[08:39:10] <chromas> well that did
[08:39:07] <chromas> didn't even fire off the url detector
[08:39:04] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[08:39:04] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org' && cat /etc/passwd
[08:38:40] <crutchy> ;p
[08:38:33] <crutchy> http://' && cat /etc/passwd
[08:38:09] <crutchy> ooh really?
[08:37:44] <chromas> although my bash has been updated
[08:37:30] * chromas wonders if the bot is susceptible to such tricks since curl is called by way of shell
[08:36:32] <crutchy> hmm wait that would only happen if i used backticks :)
[08:36:06] <crutchy> otherwise i may inadvertently infect everyone's computer with the 'i don\'t know what i\'m doing dog' virus :p
[08:35:32] <chromas> :D
[08:34:55] <crutchy> i should have escaped the second '
[08:34:37] <crutchy> monopoly?
[08:33:52] <chromas> expected ; but got "m doing"
[08:33:20] <chromas> error
[08:32:58] <crutchy> or the 'i don't know what i'm doing' dog
[08:28:12] <chromas> probably got jealous of all the attention keyboard cat was getting
[08:27:19] <chromas> http://hdw.datawallpaper.com
[07:50:54] <ciri> hi keplr
[07:50:52] <keplr> Hello
[07:50:30] <crutchy> g'day keplr
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[07:26:10] <crutchy> selling insurance to the alien abduction insurers
[07:25:55] <crutchy> maybe someone could start an alien abduction insurance underwriting company
[07:24:42] <SirFinkus> probably
[07:23:30] <crutchy> does it say anywhere that the claimant must have a policy?
[07:21:30] <crutchy> ar... more people looking at ssl since heartbleed. it's a good thing that bugs are being found, cos it means they can also be squashed
[07:20:38] <SirFinkus> "The company pays the claimant $1 per year until their death or for 1 million years, whichever comes first."
[07:20:28] <ar> https://www.openssl.org - the ride never ends
[07:20:19] <SirFinkus> also, they planned ahead just in case someone does get abducted
[07:19:46] <crutchy> lunar property insurance?
[07:19:07] <crutchy> oh wait you might have to actually pay up on that
[07:18:56] <crutchy> what about government abduction insurance?
[07:18:23] <SirFinkus> I've got to get in on this racket
[07:18:18] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03Alien abduction insurance
[07:18:18] <SirFinkus> http://en.wikipedia.org
[07:18:17] <SirFinkus> oh god
[07:02:30] * chromas udders something about wordplay
[07:01:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Earthquake Predictions — Ignore Dogs and Cats; Monitor Milking Machines - http://sylnt.us - the-udder-test-for-earthquake-prediction
[07:01:08] <chromas> Haven't heard from FrogBlast in a while. He's just copying xlefay and kobach
[07:00:52] <crutchy> he must feel very stretched :p
[07:00:38] <crutchy> audioguy has two different but simultaneous timezones
[07:00:02] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03WhosWho
[07:00:02] <crutchy> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[06:59:46] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03WhosWho
[06:59:45] <crutchy> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[06:55:12] <chromas> super-secret-(cow-level)-secure-shell
[06:53:43] <crutchy> it doesnt have super-secret-secure-shell?
[06:52:36] <chromas> no ssssh, I'm decorating my drugs :)
[06:52:25] <chromas> yeah
[06:52:05] <ar> enlightenment?
[06:47:04] * chromas goes full retard theming e
[06:44:15] <chromas> crutchy: s/net/nut/
[06:38:50] <crutchy> there it goes
[06:38:45] <NetCraft> ^ 03JPMorgan CEO Says More To Be Done on Cyberattacks - CIO Issues on Top Tech News
[06:38:44] <crutchy> http://www.toptechnews.com
[06:36:37] * Konomi hides
[06:36:35] <Konomi> if not it's probably fine
[06:36:08] <Konomi> were you trying to tell jokes to it?
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[06:34:00] <crutchy> did i just bust NetCraft?
[06:33:07] <crutchy> https://www.ssllabs.com
[06:33:05] <crutchy> looks like sn is ok
[06:28:19] * crutchy googles 'php fsockopen ssl poodle'
[06:27:17] <crutchy> trying to steal valuable coffee++
[06:26:59] * crutchy wonders if his bot is exposed to mitm
[06:23:16] <Konomi> takes a special kinda crazy ;p
[06:23:10] <Konomi> a google dev
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[06:21:24] <crutchy> who the hell thought of the acronym 'POODLE' for the ssl exploit?
[06:06:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 955
[06:06:17] <crutchy> coffee++
[05:32:03] <swiss> that bugs me too, but not as much as the issues and work i had to put into android did
[05:31:46] <swiss> heh
[05:29:04] <ar> and i hate it when there's something that annoys me that i can't change, because the developer/vendor thought it would be better to not make something customizable
[05:28:05] <ar> i hate it when other people force their ideas unto me
[05:27:14] <swiss> it's a feeling of having developers who put more thought into it than you want to
[05:23:08] <ar> (and that's part of the reason why i got Jolla; ssh and root access is just an option in the settings)
[05:22:26] <ar> i woudn't ever get an iphone. i don't like the feeling of not really owning my own phone
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[05:13:49] <swiss> lol
[05:12:57] <Konomi> maybe you'll get lucky like my house mate and instead get wifi that doesn't work after an apple update that no one can seem to fix \o/
[05:09:02] <swiss> :X
[05:09:01] <swiss> i don't like feeling like a server administrator over my phone
[05:08:42] <swiss> since i got tired of android
[05:08:38] <swiss> i have an iphone now
[04:48:27] <ar> i don't bother with tethering these days, as i have built-in modem in my laptop (well, mPCI-e), but i don't remember having a phone that would prevent me from tethering
[04:47:38] <ar> juggs: are there any phones that actually prevent you from tethering?
[04:38:03] <swiss> i don't have good enough signal to tether here
[04:32:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How English Beat German as the Language of Science - http://sylnt.us - science-of-language
[04:18:03] <juggs> traffic recognition is nothing new
[04:17:28] <juggs> search p-cube and sandvine
[04:14:00] <juggs> tunnel out encrypted and you may be good to go
[04:12:45] <chromas> maybe if you limit it to irc
[04:12:30] <chromas> bastards
[04:11:01] <juggs> chromas, some providers use DPI to watch the request headers and eliminate tetherers on that basis.
[04:00:11] <Bender> karma - poop: -1
[04:00:11] <paulej72> poop--
[03:57:47] <Bender> karma - artefacts: -1
[03:57:47] <juggs> artefacts--
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[03:51:46] <juggs> monitoring* tethering - someone work the sedbot magic :D
[03:49:59] <juggs> wouldn't that rather depend on one's provider and how they detect monitoring?
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[03:47:24] <chromas> nice thing about android phones is, with a custom install, you get free tethering
[03:42:52] <juggs> that's unpossible - I must still be in the nightmare
[03:41:11] <paulej72> even worse than my ipad for typing
[03:40:19] <paulej72> stuck on my phone for the next few days
[03:40:17] <juggs> o/ paulej72
[03:39:35] <paulej72> hi all
[03:39:29] <paulej72> i
[03:39:27] <paulej72> ho
[03:37:58] <swiss> i am surviving on terrible internet, hopefully the twc guy sets it up quickly on friday
[03:32:17] <juggs> The cats got him, let us spend a minute of silence to treasure our memories of Spalls.
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[03:28:34] * juggs replaces all present with a simple loop. Try to think and you get annihilated for attempting not to be conditioned.
[03:17:03] <Leebert> that's what you get for running pine.
[03:16:28] <SpallsHurgenson> gads, it's hot and humid tonight.
[03:01:51] * SpallsHurgenson checks out PINE; gosh, this takes me back
[02:55:51] <Leebert> Indeed. I suffer from the cobbler's shoes problem. Firewall is still running OpenBSD <mumbleancientversion>
[02:54:12] <SpallsHurgenson> I still have an XP machine that every now and then I think of switching to Linux... but that would require effort :)
[02:50:45] <Leebert> Besides, {systemd troll}
[02:50:35] <Leebert> I could replace Windows with Linux on the laptop, but it's really 6 of one, half dozen.
[02:50:08] * SpallsHurgenson looks at a screenshot of tin... my god, it's in a window! And it has COLORS
[02:50:04] <Leebert> I just ssh into a linux box to do everything. :)
[02:49:40] <Leebert> I'm a windows user, actually.
[02:48:49] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm a heretical Windows user; my selection would be useless to you :)
[02:48:34] <Leebert> :D
[02:48:31] <Leebert> PINE? :
[02:48:19] <Leebert> well, maybe I'll devote another screen session to... err... what do people use to read USENET these days? tin?
[02:47:59] <SirFinkus> usenet seems to have been supplanted by message boards
[02:47:40] <SpallsHurgenson> not really, but since there's less messages in toto, it's easier to sort through the chaff :)
[02:47:33] <Leebert> I hear comp.misc is actually rather enjoyable.
[02:47:30] <SirFinkus> irc is neat, nothing really has filled that niche better yet
[02:47:19] <Leebert> Although I suspect the s/n ratio is a lot better now.
[02:46:58] <Leebert> Nah; I swore off Usenet in the 90's.
[02:46:25] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't suppose we could get you onto Usenet? :)
[02:46:08] <Leebert> Most of the other IRC channels I've frequented have pretty much dwindled to nothingness anymore. And since I've stopped social media-ing, I've run out of outlets for my inner voice.
[02:45:37] <SpallsHurgenson> speaking of talking... wasn't there a staff meeting today?
[02:45:21] <Leebert> Touche.
[02:45:18] <SpallsHurgenson> that's what /ignore is for :)
[02:45:01] <Leebert> Give it time. :)
[02:44:40] <SpallsHurgenson> Leebert: no complaints here
[02:44:23] * Leebert ponders that he went from lurk to "never shuts up" pretty fast
[02:42:44] <Leebert> So very, very alone.
[02:42:42] * SirFinkus hides
[02:42:40] * Leebert lives alone.
[02:42:40] <SirFinkus> there are OTHERS?
[02:42:28] * SpallsHurgenson actually gave up on TV, but the Other One still likes to watch sometimes
[02:42:20] <Leebert> Which I only really use to watch football.
[02:41:48] <Leebert> Eh, my antenna does that for me.
[02:41:37] <SpallsHurgenson> TW can't even get me TV reliably
[02:41:27] <Leebert> Yes, but you need to be a Comcast customer to use them.
[02:41:14] <Leebert> the presumption is that I'm a business somewhere like an Internet cafe.
[02:41:13] <SirFinkus> all the residential modems have public wifi turned on
[02:40:58] <Leebert> No, I'm permitted to run my own for non-Comcast customers.
[02:40:56] <SpallsHurgenson> Time Warner is offering 7mb/s business-class for $35... a good deal, except well, Time Warner
[02:40:39] <SirFinkus> they'Re already doing that by default
[02:40:33] <Leebert> So I'm going to throw up some antennas outside and encourage my neighbors to cancel their service and just use that hotspot.
[02:40:30] <SirFinkus> naw, they don't care about that
[02:40:11] <Leebert> My ToS says that business class customers with static IPs are explicitly permitted to operate a public hotspot
[02:39:51] <Leebert> when I get aroudn to it as a big FU to Comcast
[02:39:36] <Leebert> Oh, AND...
[02:39:32] <SirFinkus> yeah, that'd be nice
[02:39:18] <Leebert> Like reverse DNS, multiple IPs, better terms of service, less idiodic tech support...
[02:38:48] <Leebert> Anyway, even though most dynamic IPs don't change, business class still gives some advantages.
[02:38:07] <Leebert> Rotting right next to Blockbuster.
[02:38:01] <Leebert> I can't wait to see them on the trash heap of companies of exceptional hubris.
[02:37:37] <Leebert> I dunno.
[02:37:32] <Leebert> Yeah, we've rolled it out to residential everywhere, but you're paying extra as a business class user, so we can't give it to you until... real soon now.
[02:37:26] <SirFinkus> I mean, you can't really blame them
[02:37:20] <SirFinkus> "you don't have a choice, fuck you"
[02:37:04] <Leebert> Oh, and you want IPv6? FU
[02:36:45] <Leebert> You've paid for the piece of crap like 7 times over since I've been a business class customer.
[02:36:28] <Leebert> W. T. F.
[02:36:24] <Leebert> A few months later: Err, $12.95
[02:36:15] <Leebert> A few months later: Err, $9.95
[02:36:11] <ciri> hahaha
[02:36:10] <SirFinkus> lol
[02:36:02] <Leebert> Oh, that 0.00 you've been paying for the last 8 months? Yeah, that's supposed to be $7.95/month
[02:35:54] <SirFinkus> I think it's changed like 3 times in the past 5 years
[02:35:43] <Leebert> ok, fine I guess, it's a 0.00 price on my contract
[02:35:29] <Leebert> Oh, you have static IPs? That means you MUST lease our equipment.
[02:35:27] <SirFinkus> that's pretty garbage, fwiw my ip very rarely changes
[02:35:11] <Leebert> ok, fine I guess.
[02:35:04] <Leebert> But... You want static IPs? That'll be $20/month.
[02:34:46] <Leebert> I pay for business class. I'd actually be happy to pay MORE for it.
[02:34:25] <Leebert> It's the way they treat me.
[02:34:20] <Leebert> That doesn't even bother me.
[02:34:09] <Leebert> Eh.
[02:32:34] <Bender> karma - duopolies: -1
[02:32:34] <SirFinkus> duopolies--
[02:32:27] <SirFinkus> but the price, god damn
[02:32:14] <SirFinkus> cockmast isn't all that bad as far as their service goes
[02:31:37] <Leebert> I'd take that over Comcast.
[02:30:55] <SpallsHurgenson> good god; if it IS the phone company, they might put you on 1.5mb/s DSL! Better to be shot by gangsters!
[02:29:51] <Bender> karma - hot_tea_rainy_day: 1
[02:29:51] <SirFinkus> hot_tea_rainy_day++
[02:29:40] <Leebert> or the phone company.
[02:29:32] <SpallsHurgenson> hey now, let's not jump to conclusions. It might not be the government out to get you. It could be the Mafia
[02:29:30] <SirFinkus> who says I don't?
[02:29:25] <Leebert> damn phone company...
[02:29:12] <Leebert> See now, don't you wish you had a gun?
[02:29:07] <SirFinkus> *paranoia intensifies*
[02:28:57] <SirFinkus> the "phone company" is coming tomorrow
[02:26:30] <SpallsHurgenson> olives are even more evil than coffee!
[02:21:45] <Bender> karma - chicken_alfredo_pasta_with_artichoke_hearts_and_olives: 1
[02:21:45] <chromas> chicken_alfredo_pasta_with_artichoke_hearts_and_olives++
[02:19:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 954
[02:19:43] <SpallsHurgenson> coffee--
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[01:39:00] <juggs> http://www.theregister.co.uk Time to fork the internet?
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[00:39:19] <Dopefish> Have fun!
[00:37:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> time to find some leftovers. no overthrowing north america without me.
[00:33:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, we really need to get back to minding our own fscking business on every level, individual to international.
[00:32:49] <Dopefish> He sounds like a reasonable guy
[00:32:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's a pretty epic thing for a politician to say.
[00:32:39] <Dopefish> Ah nice haha
[00:32:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> tim moen, canadian politician i stole that quote from.
[00:31:58] <Dopefish> Who?
[00:31:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima hafta import that guy to be head of the DOJ or something. he's too good for canada.
[00:30:23] <Dopefish> I like you brotha
[00:30:11] <Dopefish> Amen
[00:29:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> but, on liberties in general and to steal a phrase from tim moen, i want gay married couples to be able to protect their pot farms with their guns.
[00:27:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, i really should eat soon or it's going to be bedtime before i do.
[00:27:06] <Dopefish> Sounds good my main man
[00:26:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll let ya know, still planning out some details.
[00:26:55] <Dopefish> Lol
[00:26:48] * SpallsHurgenson sucks miserably on his sodium-free seltzer water
[00:26:26] <Dopefish> Agreed!
[00:26:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> mountain dew throwback (real sugar) is sooooo freaking awesome. far, far better than HFCS dew.
[00:26:14] <Dopefish> @TheMightyBuzzard - when can I vote for you?
[00:25:59] <Dopefish> @SpallsHurgenson - MtnDew is overrated
[00:25:39] * TheMightyBuzzard laughs
[00:25:30] <Dopefish> :)
[00:25:29] <SpallsHurgenson> Mountain Dew is for those who don't have a moose handy to provide fresh urine on demand :)
[00:25:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly, under my system you ARE your representation.
[00:25:02] <Dopefish> Anyway... back to government and taxes. I shay... no taxation without representation!
[00:24:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> mountain dew gamer fuel for the slightly latter days of team fortress 2 and starcraft.
[00:24:19] <Dopefish> It's a good day
[00:24:14] <Dopefish> Yeah I fired up Quake for DOS and opened a can of Surge
[00:24:04] * SpallsHurgenson is off soda these days. God, I miss coke
[00:23:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp. it was pretty good back in the day though.
[00:23:41] <Dopefish> And agreed TheMightyBuzzard
[00:23:26] <Dopefish> Btw... not to derail this convo or anything... but has anyone tried Surge again since Coca Cola came out with it? My childhood is rushing back.
[00:23:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like it cause it keeps you from having to give money at gunpoint to something you morally oppose. you can specify your bucks only go to things you're in favor of at least.
[00:22:44] <Dopefish> LOL
[00:22:39] <Leebert> Can I sit on the Death Panel?
[00:22:34] <Leebert> Sweeet.
[00:22:28] <Dopefish> Nice plan
[00:22:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> that way if we want universal healtcare, convince your fellow citizens to check the box and pay for it.
[00:22:15] <Leebert> It has subsequently sat for more years and continued to crumble.
[00:22:03] <Dopefish> Sounds like a flat tax
[00:21:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> taxes are going to go to a semi-voluntary basis too. everyone pays say 15% of their income, no exceptions, and gets to specify what general area(s) it gets spent in down to the percent.
[00:20:49] <Leebert> I think Congress wasn't hapy because the NPS plans included a protest area.
[00:20:33] <Leebert> Legislation got inserted last minute into one of the "don't shut the government down" bills to transfer that property to the Architect of the Capitol.
[00:20:11] <Leebert> The National Park Service had some nice plans to remodel it.
[00:19:59] <Leebert> Actually, that whole thiing kinda pisses me off.
[00:19:45] <Dopefish> Oh my
[00:19:38] <Leebert> We could convert it into a public execution facility.
[00:19:30] <Leebert> Union Square in front of the Capitol building is in HORRENDOUS disrepair.
[00:18:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can do it if you like. i'm not picky. was going to do it personally though on the capital steps.
[00:18:19] <Leebert> Oh, wait. THAT kind of executing.
[00:18:11] <Leebert> It's in the name, man.
[00:18:08] <Leebert> Hey, executing is the job of the executive.
[00:17:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'fine. i planned to keep congress around too and execute any of them proposing corruption-type laws.
[00:17:20] <Leebert> Like I said, I don't want to make policy decisions, I want to fix broken organizations.
[00:17:14] <SpallsHurgenson> if I could find some topless women, I wouldn't need your policy :)
[00:17:08] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: I'll take president underneath the emperor.
[00:16:42] <Leebert> Well, although I'm a Baptist I'm also a "do whatever you want as long as it isn't infringing on other people's rights" kind of guy too, so if you can find some topless women, knock yerself out.
[00:16:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends on when i launch my campaign for emperor. if you want four years before, sure.
[00:15:59] <SpallsHurgenson> depends, what is your topless-woman policy?
[00:15:35] <Leebert> So... do I have everyone's vote?
[00:15:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> the corrupt asshat is dead, long live the corrupt asshat
[00:15:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, yeah we already have that if a bit not quite that instant.
[00:14:42] <Leebert> Hot Standby President Protocol.
[00:14:33] <Leebert> I'd explain thta in IT, we achieve reliability through reduandancy, and if anyone shot me, there is a failover president in place.
[00:14:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[00:14:09] <Leebert> I would, similarly, cut white house staff severely.
[00:13:59] <Leebert> Exactly.
[00:13:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, would go a long way to keeping him from not giving a shit about public opinion.
[00:13:23] <SpallsHurgenson> my Imperial Platform is to kill off all my competitors and ensure my power is never threatened. Also, lots of topless women
[00:13:08] <Leebert> Drive his own ass to work like everyone else does, or preferably take the subway.
[00:12:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> my imperial platform is of cleaning out the sold off and otherwise oppressed rights. massive copyright and patent reform for starters. no special treatment of any corporate entity. no ability for corporate entities to participate in politics. and so they don't get too cheesed off, no taxes for them either.
[00:12:40] <Leebert> Were I president, I'd fire the guy on the spot and tell him to get over himself.
[00:12:27] <Leebert> And he's some bigwig apparently with a whole entourage of people and black SUV's and guys with little earpieces and sunglasses and suits.
[00:12:03] <Leebert> We had a DHS person come by today to use our auditorium, apparently.
[00:11:45] <Leebert> Yes, I'd expect it to be a one-term presidency.
[00:11:34] <SpallsHurgenson> "I will not get re-elected and none of my measures will be put into law because I don't play the game" :)
[00:11:24] <Leebert> "My state of the union will consist solely of my progress report in fixing the inefficiencies and abuses of the executive branch, and recommendations for legislation which I believe will assist in that endeavour."
[00:10:43] <Leebert> "I will sign legislation if it's constitutional, and veto it if it's not. All other policy decisions I leave up to the Congress."
[00:10:07] <Leebert> "I am going to focus on being an executive. The executive is hopelessly broken. I am going to fix that."
[00:10:01] <SpallsHurgenson> unfortunately, in America the common belief is that WINNING is everything, so if the guy you vote for doesn't get into office, it's wasted
[00:09:44] <Leebert> Here's my platform:
[00:09:38] <SpallsHurgenson> it isn't necessary for a third-party candidate to win, just that they threaten the status-quo enough that the big parties have to take notice of the shifting politics
[00:09:38] <Leebert> I plan to run for president.
[00:09:34] <Leebert> Don't worry.
[00:08:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> best hope we ever had was Perot. granted he was a loon but it would have reintroduced the possibility of a third party candidate winning.
[00:08:03] <SpallsHurgenson> to be fair, there is choice... but people have been brainwashed into believing it is a wasted vote if you don't do Dem or Rep
[00:07:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> too much corruption and oppression and no choice but which flavor you prefer.
[00:07:11] <SpallsHurgenson> good thing I'll be dead by then :)
[00:06:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally, i believe we'll see revolution within the next 40 years, give or take a few. could be violent could be civil.
[00:05:43] <Leebert> Doesn't mean we shouldn't have the option, though.
[00:05:34] <Leebert> Yup. I getcha. But we're a looong way off from that.
[00:05:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> Leebert, lot of that is you really have no choice but which kind of oppression you prefer at the ballot box.
[00:05:04] <SpallsHurgenson> erm, "keeping them in fear of" etc
[00:05:03] <Leebert> Which, is sadly, fueled by things like the aforementioned Waco and Ruby Ridge.
[00:04:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, six of one, half a dozen of the other.
[00:04:49] <Leebert> Right.
[00:04:36] <Leebert> and I think: "Dudes, you have a whole system of doing peaceful revolution every 2 years and you never use it... Why would I think people would pick up firearms then?"
[00:04:36] <SpallsHurgenson> its not about violent revolution; it's about the government's FEAR of violent revolution :)
[00:04:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. s'why we need emperor Buzzard.
[00:04:04] <Leebert> I love all of the various folks yacking about violent revolution
[00:03:50] <Leebert> Not that I think that'll occur any time soon.
[00:03:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, scotus is pretty divorced from reality
[00:03:34] * juggs cracks a beer and switches to spectate mode - s'all I can do when your constitution comes up :D
[00:03:33] <Leebert> Sure, I'm with you.
[00:03:25] <Leebert> But I would very much rather not leave those sort of really important decisions to 9 partisans who have gone completely out of realityworld.
[00:03:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> no argument here, Leebert, but we need to retain the ability to violently overthrow the government. that is the whole purpose of the 2nd.
[00:02:41] <Leebert> Sure, you can also kinda-sorta patch it by having the supreme court deal with it.
[00:02:36] * chromas votes for TheMightyBuzzard
[00:02:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, you can when i'm emperor.
[00:02:18] <Leebert> Again, I'm not arguing it makes sense, I'm arguing that the Constitution needs updating because technologies exist that the founders didn't envision.
[00:02:06] <SpallsHurgenson> I can haz battleshipz?
[00:01:57] <Leebert> Sure, I get it.
[00:01:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> nukes though are another story entirely. they have consequences long, long beyond when they're used.
[00:01:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> good, glad someone subd that
[00:00:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Iggy Pop on the Past and Future of Music - http://sylnt.us - stooges
[00:00:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> but my own feelings on the matter are if you can find a place to park it, you should be able to own an aircraft carrier.
[00:00:23] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't want the nuke; I want the delivery mechanism :)