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[00:00:23] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't want the nuke; I want the delivery mechanism :)
[00:00:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> but my own feelings on the matter are if you can find a place to park it, you should be able to own an aircraft carrier.
[00:00:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Iggy Pop on the Past and Future of Music - http://sylnt.us - stooges
[00:01:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> good, glad someone subd that
[00:01:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> nukes though are another story entirely. they have consequences long, long beyond when they're used.
[00:01:57] <Leebert> Sure, I get it.
[00:02:06] <SpallsHurgenson> I can haz battleshipz?
[00:02:18] <Leebert> Again, I'm not arguing it makes sense, I'm arguing that the Constitution needs updating because technologies exist that the founders didn't envision.
[00:02:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, you can when i'm emperor.
[00:02:36] * chromas votes for TheMightyBuzzard
[00:02:41] <Leebert> Sure, you can also kinda-sorta patch it by having the supreme court deal with it.
[00:03:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> no argument here, Leebert, but we need to retain the ability to violently overthrow the government. that is the whole purpose of the 2nd.
[00:03:25] <Leebert> But I would very much rather not leave those sort of really important decisions to 9 partisans who have gone completely out of realityworld.
[00:03:33] <Leebert> Sure, I'm with you.
[00:03:34] * juggs cracks a beer and switches to spectate mode - s'all I can do when your constitution comes up :D
[00:03:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, scotus is pretty divorced from reality
[00:03:50] <Leebert> Not that I think that'll occur any time soon.
[00:04:04] <Leebert> I love all of the various folks yacking about violent revolution
[00:04:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. s'why we need emperor Buzzard.
[00:04:36] <SpallsHurgenson> its not about violent revolution; it's about the government's FEAR of violent revolution :)
[00:04:36] <Leebert> and I think: "Dudes, you have a whole system of doing peaceful revolution every 2 years and you never use it... Why would I think people would pick up firearms then?"
[00:04:49] <Leebert> Right.
[00:04:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, six of one, half a dozen of the other.
[00:05:03] <Leebert> Which, is sadly, fueled by things like the aforementioned Waco and Ruby Ridge.
[00:05:04] <SpallsHurgenson> erm, "keeping them in fear of" etc
[00:05:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> Leebert, lot of that is you really have no choice but which kind of oppression you prefer at the ballot box.
[00:05:34] <Leebert> Yup. I getcha. But we're a looong way off from that.
[00:05:43] <Leebert> Doesn't mean we shouldn't have the option, though.
[00:06:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally, i believe we'll see revolution within the next 40 years, give or take a few. could be violent could be civil.
[00:07:11] <SpallsHurgenson> good thing I'll be dead by then :)
[00:07:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> too much corruption and oppression and no choice but which flavor you prefer.
[00:08:03] <SpallsHurgenson> to be fair, there is choice... but people have been brainwashed into believing it is a wasted vote if you don't do Dem or Rep
[00:08:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> best hope we ever had was Perot. granted he was a loon but it would have reintroduced the possibility of a third party candidate winning.
[00:09:34] <Leebert> Don't worry.
[00:09:38] <Leebert> I plan to run for president.
[00:09:38] <SpallsHurgenson> it isn't necessary for a third-party candidate to win, just that they threaten the status-quo enough that the big parties have to take notice of the shifting politics
[00:09:44] <Leebert> Here's my platform:
[00:10:01] <SpallsHurgenson> unfortunately, in America the common belief is that WINNING is everything, so if the guy you vote for doesn't get into office, it's wasted
[00:10:07] <Leebert> "I am going to focus on being an executive. The executive is hopelessly broken. I am going to fix that."
[00:10:43] <Leebert> "I will sign legislation if it's constitutional, and veto it if it's not. All other policy decisions I leave up to the Congress."
[00:11:24] <Leebert> "My state of the union will consist solely of my progress report in fixing the inefficiencies and abuses of the executive branch, and recommendations for legislation which I believe will assist in that endeavour."
[00:11:34] <SpallsHurgenson> "I will not get re-elected and none of my measures will be put into law because I don't play the game" :)
[00:11:45] <Leebert> Yes, I'd expect it to be a one-term presidency.
[00:12:03] <Leebert> We had a DHS person come by today to use our auditorium, apparently.
[00:12:27] <Leebert> And he's some bigwig apparently with a whole entourage of people and black SUV's and guys with little earpieces and sunglasses and suits.
[00:12:40] <Leebert> Were I president, I'd fire the guy on the spot and tell him to get over himself.
[00:12:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> my imperial platform is of cleaning out the sold off and otherwise oppressed rights. massive copyright and patent reform for starters. no special treatment of any corporate entity. no ability for corporate entities to participate in politics. and so they don't get too cheesed off, no taxes for them either.
[00:13:08] <Leebert> Drive his own ass to work like everyone else does, or preferably take the subway.
[00:13:23] <SpallsHurgenson> my Imperial Platform is to kill off all my competitors and ensure my power is never threatened. Also, lots of topless women
[00:13:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, would go a long way to keeping him from not giving a shit about public opinion.
[00:13:59] <Leebert> Exactly.
[00:14:09] <Leebert> I would, similarly, cut white house staff severely.
[00:14:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[00:14:33] <Leebert> I'd explain thta in IT, we achieve reliability through reduandancy, and if anyone shot me, there is a failover president in place.
[00:14:42] <Leebert> Hot Standby President Protocol.
[00:15:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, yeah we already have that if a bit not quite that instant.
[00:15:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> the corrupt asshat is dead, long live the corrupt asshat
[00:15:35] <Leebert> So... do I have everyone's vote?
[00:15:59] <SpallsHurgenson> depends, what is your topless-woman policy?
[00:16:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends on when i launch my campaign for emperor. if you want four years before, sure.
[00:16:42] <Leebert> Well, although I'm a Baptist I'm also a "do whatever you want as long as it isn't infringing on other people's rights" kind of guy too, so if you can find some topless women, knock yerself out.
[00:17:08] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: I'll take president underneath the emperor.
[00:17:14] <SpallsHurgenson> if I could find some topless women, I wouldn't need your policy :)
[00:17:20] <Leebert> Like I said, I don't want to make policy decisions, I want to fix broken organizations.
[00:17:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'fine. i planned to keep congress around too and execute any of them proposing corruption-type laws.
[00:18:08] <Leebert> Hey, executing is the job of the executive.
[00:18:11] <Leebert> It's in the name, man.
[00:18:19] <Leebert> Oh, wait. THAT kind of executing.
[00:18:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can do it if you like. i'm not picky. was going to do it personally though on the capital steps.
[00:19:30] <Leebert> Union Square in front of the Capitol building is in HORRENDOUS disrepair.
[00:19:38] <Leebert> We could convert it into a public execution facility.
[00:19:45] <Dopefish> Oh my
[00:19:59] <Leebert> Actually, that whole thiing kinda pisses me off.
[00:20:11] <Leebert> The National Park Service had some nice plans to remodel it.
[00:20:33] <Leebert> Legislation got inserted last minute into one of the "don't shut the government down" bills to transfer that property to the Architect of the Capitol.
[00:20:49] <Leebert> I think Congress wasn't hapy because the NPS plans included a protest area.
[00:21:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> taxes are going to go to a semi-voluntary basis too. everyone pays say 15% of their income, no exceptions, and gets to specify what general area(s) it gets spent in down to the percent.
[00:22:03] <Dopefish> Sounds like a flat tax
[00:22:15] <Leebert> It has subsequently sat for more years and continued to crumble.
[00:22:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> that way if we want universal healtcare, convince your fellow citizens to check the box and pay for it.
[00:22:28] <Dopefish> Nice plan
[00:22:34] <Leebert> Sweeet.
[00:22:39] <Leebert> Can I sit on the Death Panel?
[00:22:44] <Dopefish> LOL
[00:23:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like it cause it keeps you from having to give money at gunpoint to something you morally oppose. you can specify your bucks only go to things you're in favor of at least.
[00:23:26] <Dopefish> Btw... not to derail this convo or anything... but has anyone tried Surge again since Coca Cola came out with it? My childhood is rushing back.
[00:23:41] <Dopefish> And agreed TheMightyBuzzard
[00:23:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp. it was pretty good back in the day though.
[00:24:04] * SpallsHurgenson is off soda these days. God, I miss coke
[00:24:14] <Dopefish> Yeah I fired up Quake for DOS and opened a can of Surge
[00:24:19] <Dopefish> It's a good day
[00:24:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> mountain dew gamer fuel for the slightly latter days of team fortress 2 and starcraft.
[00:25:02] <Dopefish> Anyway... back to government and taxes. I shay... no taxation without representation!
[00:25:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly, under my system you ARE your representation.
[00:25:29] <SpallsHurgenson> Mountain Dew is for those who don't have a moose handy to provide fresh urine on demand :)
[00:25:30] <Dopefish> :)
[00:25:39] * TheMightyBuzzard laughs
[00:25:59] <Dopefish> @SpallsHurgenson - MtnDew is overrated
[00:26:14] <Dopefish> @TheMightyBuzzard - when can I vote for you?
[00:26:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> mountain dew throwback (real sugar) is sooooo freaking awesome. far, far better than HFCS dew.
[00:26:26] <Dopefish> Agreed!
[00:26:48] * SpallsHurgenson sucks miserably on his sodium-free seltzer water
[00:26:55] <Dopefish> Lol
[00:26:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll let ya know, still planning out some details.
[00:27:06] <Dopefish> Sounds good my main man
[00:27:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, i really should eat soon or it's going to be bedtime before i do.
[00:29:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> but, on liberties in general and to steal a phrase from tim moen, i want gay married couples to be able to protect their pot farms with their guns.
[00:30:11] <Dopefish> Amen
[00:30:23] <Dopefish> I like you brotha
[00:31:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima hafta import that guy to be head of the DOJ or something. he's too good for canada.
[00:31:58] <Dopefish> Who?
[00:32:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> tim moen, canadian politician i stole that quote from.
[00:32:39] <Dopefish> Ah nice haha
[00:32:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's a pretty epic thing for a politician to say.
[00:32:49] <Dopefish> He sounds like a reasonable guy
[00:33:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, we really need to get back to minding our own fscking business on every level, individual to international.
[00:37:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> time to find some leftovers. no overthrowing north america without me.
[00:39:19] <Dopefish> Have fun!
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[01:39:00] <juggs> http://www.theregister.co.uk Time to fork the internet?
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[02:00:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Germany has Abolished College Tuition Fees - http://sylnt.us - frei-für-alles
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[02:19:43] <SpallsHurgenson> coffee--
[02:19:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 954
[02:21:45] <chromas> chicken_alfredo_pasta_with_artichoke_hearts_and_olives++
[02:21:45] <Bender> karma - chicken_alfredo_pasta_with_artichoke_hearts_and_olives: 1
[02:26:30] <SpallsHurgenson> olives are even more evil than coffee!
[02:28:57] <SirFinkus> the "phone company" is coming tomorrow
[02:29:07] <SirFinkus> *paranoia intensifies*
[02:29:12] <Leebert> See now, don't you wish you had a gun?
[02:29:25] <Leebert> damn phone company...
[02:29:30] <SirFinkus> who says I don't?
[02:29:32] <SpallsHurgenson> hey now, let's not jump to conclusions. It might not be the government out to get you. It could be the Mafia
[02:29:40] <Leebert> or the phone company.
[02:29:51] <SirFinkus> hot_tea_rainy_day++
[02:29:51] <Bender> karma - hot_tea_rainy_day: 1
[02:30:55] <SpallsHurgenson> good god; if it IS the phone company, they might put you on 1.5mb/s DSL! Better to be shot by gangsters!
[02:31:37] <Leebert> I'd take that over Comcast.
[02:32:14] <SirFinkus> cockmast isn't all that bad as far as their service goes
[02:32:27] <SirFinkus> but the price, god damn
[02:32:34] <SirFinkus> duopolies--
[02:32:34] <Bender> karma - duopolies: -1
[02:34:09] <Leebert> Eh.
[02:34:20] <Leebert> That doesn't even bother me.
[02:34:25] <Leebert> It's the way they treat me.
[02:34:46] <Leebert> I pay for business class. I'd actually be happy to pay MORE for it.
[02:35:04] <Leebert> But... You want static IPs? That'll be $20/month.
[02:35:11] <Leebert> ok, fine I guess.
[02:35:27] <SirFinkus> that's pretty garbage, fwiw my ip very rarely changes
[02:35:29] <Leebert> Oh, you have static IPs? That means you MUST lease our equipment.
[02:35:43] <Leebert> ok, fine I guess, it's a 0.00 price on my contract
[02:35:54] <SirFinkus> I think it's changed like 3 times in the past 5 years
[02:36:02] <Leebert> Oh, that 0.00 you've been paying for the last 8 months? Yeah, that's supposed to be $7.95/month
[02:36:10] <SirFinkus> lol
[02:36:11] <ciri> hahaha
[02:36:15] <Leebert> A few months later: Err, $9.95
[02:36:24] <Leebert> A few months later: Err, $12.95
[02:36:28] <Leebert> W. T. F.
[02:36:45] <Leebert> You've paid for the piece of crap like 7 times over since I've been a business class customer.
[02:37:04] <Leebert> Oh, and you want IPv6? FU
[02:37:20] <SirFinkus> "you don't have a choice, fuck you"
[02:37:26] <SirFinkus> I mean, you can't really blame them
[02:37:32] <Leebert> Yeah, we've rolled it out to residential everywhere, but you're paying extra as a business class user, so we can't give it to you until... real soon now.
[02:37:37] <Leebert> I dunno.
[02:38:01] <Leebert> I can't wait to see them on the trash heap of companies of exceptional hubris.
[02:38:07] <Leebert> Rotting right next to Blockbuster.
[02:38:48] <Leebert> Anyway, even though most dynamic IPs don't change, business class still gives some advantages.
[02:39:18] <Leebert> Like reverse DNS, multiple IPs, better terms of service, less idiodic tech support...
[02:39:32] <SirFinkus> yeah, that'd be nice
[02:39:36] <Leebert> Oh, AND...
[02:39:51] <Leebert> when I get aroudn to it as a big FU to Comcast
[02:40:11] <Leebert> My ToS says that business class customers with static IPs are explicitly permitted to operate a public hotspot
[02:40:30] <SirFinkus> naw, they don't care about that
[02:40:33] <Leebert> So I'm going to throw up some antennas outside and encourage my neighbors to cancel their service and just use that hotspot.
[02:40:39] <SirFinkus> they'Re already doing that by default
[02:40:56] <SpallsHurgenson> Time Warner is offering 7mb/s business-class for $35... a good deal, except well, Time Warner
[02:40:58] <Leebert> No, I'm permitted to run my own for non-Comcast customers.
[02:41:13] <SirFinkus> all the residential modems have public wifi turned on
[02:41:14] <Leebert> the presumption is that I'm a business somewhere like an Internet cafe.
[02:41:27] <Leebert> Yes, but you need to be a Comcast customer to use them.
[02:41:37] <SpallsHurgenson> TW can't even get me TV reliably
[02:41:48] <Leebert> Eh, my antenna does that for me.
[02:42:20] <Leebert> Which I only really use to watch football.
[02:42:28] * SpallsHurgenson actually gave up on TV, but the Other One still likes to watch sometimes
[02:42:40] <SirFinkus> there are OTHERS?
[02:42:40] * Leebert lives alone.
[02:42:42] * SirFinkus hides
[02:42:44] <Leebert> So very, very alone.
[02:44:23] * Leebert ponders that he went from lurk to "never shuts up" pretty fast
[02:44:40] <SpallsHurgenson> Leebert: no complaints here
[02:45:01] <Leebert> Give it time. :)
[02:45:18] <SpallsHurgenson> that's what /ignore is for :)
[02:45:21] <Leebert> Touche.
[02:45:37] <SpallsHurgenson> speaking of talking... wasn't there a staff meeting today?
[02:46:08] <Leebert> Most of the other IRC channels I've frequented have pretty much dwindled to nothingness anymore. And since I've stopped social media-ing, I've run out of outlets for my inner voice.
[02:46:25] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't suppose we could get you onto Usenet? :)
[02:46:58] <Leebert> Nah; I swore off Usenet in the 90's.
[02:47:19] <Leebert> Although I suspect the s/n ratio is a lot better now.
[02:47:30] <SirFinkus> irc is neat, nothing really has filled that niche better yet
[02:47:33] <Leebert> I hear comp.misc is actually rather enjoyable.
[02:47:40] <SpallsHurgenson> not really, but since there's less messages in toto, it's easier to sort through the chaff :)
[02:47:59] <SirFinkus> usenet seems to have been supplanted by message boards
[02:48:19] <Leebert> well, maybe I'll devote another screen session to... err... what do people use to read USENET these days? tin?
[02:48:31] <Leebert> PINE? :
[02:48:34] <Leebert> :D
[02:48:49] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm a heretical Windows user; my selection would be useless to you :)
[02:49:40] <Leebert> I'm a windows user, actually.
[02:50:04] <Leebert> I just ssh into a linux box to do everything. :)
[02:50:08] * SpallsHurgenson looks at a screenshot of tin... my god, it's in a window! And it has COLORS
[02:50:35] <Leebert> I could replace Windows with Linux on the laptop, but it's really 6 of one, half dozen.
[02:50:45] <Leebert> Besides, {systemd troll}
[02:54:12] <SpallsHurgenson> I still have an XP machine that every now and then I think of switching to Linux... but that would require effort :)
[02:55:51] <Leebert> Indeed. I suffer from the cobbler's shoes problem. Firewall is still running OpenBSD <mumbleancientversion>
[03:01:51] * SpallsHurgenson checks out PINE; gosh, this takes me back
[03:16:28] <SpallsHurgenson> gads, it's hot and humid tonight.
[03:17:03] <Leebert> that's what you get for running pine.
[03:28:34] * juggs replaces all present with a simple loop. Try to think and you get annihilated for attempting not to be conditioned.
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[03:32:17] <juggs> The cats got him, let us spend a minute of silence to treasure our memories of Spalls.
[03:37:58] <swiss> i am surviving on terrible internet, hopefully the twc guy sets it up quickly on friday
[03:39:27] <paulej72> ho
[03:39:29] <paulej72> i
[03:39:35] <paulej72> hi all
[03:40:17] <juggs> o/ paulej72
[03:40:19] <paulej72> stuck on my phone for the next few days
[03:41:11] <paulej72> even worse than my ipad for typing
[03:42:52] <juggs> that's unpossible - I must still be in the nightmare
[03:47:24] <chromas> nice thing about android phones is, with a custom install, you get free tethering
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[03:49:59] <juggs> wouldn't that rather depend on one's provider and how they detect monitoring?
[03:51:46] <juggs> monitoring* tethering - someone work the sedbot magic :D
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[03:57:47] <juggs> artefacts--
[03:57:47] <Bender> karma - artefacts: -1
[04:00:11] <paulej72> poop--
[04:00:11] <Bender> karma - poop: -1
[04:11:01] <juggs> chromas, some providers use DPI to watch the request headers and eliminate tetherers on that basis.
[04:12:30] <chromas> bastards
[04:12:45] <chromas> maybe if you limit it to irc
[04:14:00] <juggs> tunnel out encrypted and you may be good to go
[04:17:28] <juggs> search p-cube and sandvine
[04:18:03] <juggs> traffic recognition is nothing new
[04:32:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How English Beat German as the Language of Science - http://sylnt.us - science-of-language
[04:38:03] <swiss> i don't have good enough signal to tether here
[04:47:38] <ar> juggs: are there any phones that actually prevent you from tethering?
[04:48:27] <ar> i don't bother with tethering these days, as i have built-in modem in my laptop (well, mPCI-e), but i don't remember having a phone that would prevent me from tethering
[05:08:38] <swiss> i have an iphone now
[05:08:42] <swiss> since i got tired of android
[05:09:01] <swiss> i don't like feeling like a server administrator over my phone
[05:09:02] <swiss> :X
[05:12:57] <Konomi> maybe you'll get lucky like my house mate and instead get wifi that doesn't work after an apple update that no one can seem to fix \o/
[05:13:49] <swiss> lol
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[05:22:26] <ar> i woudn't ever get an iphone. i don't like the feeling of not really owning my own phone
[05:23:08] <ar> (and that's part of the reason why i got Jolla; ssh and root access is just an option in the settings)
[05:27:14] <swiss> it's a feeling of having developers who put more thought into it than you want to
[05:28:05] <ar> i hate it when other people force their ideas unto me
[05:29:04] <ar> and i hate it when there's something that annoys me that i can't change, because the developer/vendor thought it would be better to not make something customizable
[05:31:46] <swiss> heh
[05:32:03] <swiss> that bugs me too, but not as much as the issues and work i had to put into android did
[06:06:17] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:06:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 955
[06:21:24] <crutchy> who the hell thought of the acronym 'POODLE' for the ssl exploit?
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[06:23:10] <Konomi> a google dev
[06:23:16] <Konomi> takes a special kinda crazy ;p
[06:26:59] * crutchy wonders if his bot is exposed to mitm
[06:27:17] <crutchy> trying to steal valuable coffee++
[06:28:19] * crutchy googles 'php fsockopen ssl poodle'
[06:33:05] <crutchy> looks like sn is ok
[06:33:07] <crutchy> https://www.ssllabs.com
[06:34:00] <crutchy> did i just bust NetCraft?
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[06:36:08] <Konomi> were you trying to tell jokes to it?
[06:36:35] <Konomi> if not it's probably fine
[06:36:37] * Konomi hides
[06:38:44] <crutchy> http://www.toptechnews.com
[06:38:45] <NetCraft> ^ 03JPMorgan CEO Says More To Be Done on Cyberattacks - CIO Issues on Top Tech News
[06:38:50] <crutchy> there it goes
[06:44:15] <chromas> crutchy: s/net/nut/
[06:47:04] * chromas goes full retard theming e
[06:52:05] <ar> enlightenment?
[06:52:25] <chromas> yeah
[06:52:36] <chromas> no ssssh, I'm decorating my drugs :)
[06:53:43] <crutchy> it doesnt have super-secret-secure-shell?
[06:55:12] <chromas> super-secret-(cow-level)-secure-shell
[06:59:45] <crutchy> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[06:59:46] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03WhosWho
[07:00:02] <crutchy> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[07:00:02] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03WhosWho
[07:00:38] <crutchy> audioguy has two different but simultaneous timezones
[07:00:52] <crutchy> he must feel very stretched :p
[07:01:08] <chromas> Haven't heard from FrogBlast in a while. He's just copying xlefay and kobach
[07:01:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Earthquake Predictions — Ignore Dogs and Cats; Monitor Milking Machines - http://sylnt.us - the-udder-test-for-earthquake-prediction
[07:02:30] * chromas udders something about wordplay
[07:18:17] <SirFinkus> oh god
[07:18:18] <SirFinkus> http://en.wikipedia.org
[07:18:18] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03Alien abduction insurance
[07:18:23] <SirFinkus> I've got to get in on this racket
[07:18:56] <crutchy> what about government abduction insurance?
[07:19:07] <crutchy> oh wait you might have to actually pay up on that
[07:19:46] <crutchy> lunar property insurance?
[07:20:19] <SirFinkus> also, they planned ahead just in case someone does get abducted
[07:20:28] <ar> https://www.openssl.org - the ride never ends
[07:20:38] <SirFinkus> "The company pays the claimant $1 per year until their death or for 1 million years, whichever comes first."
[07:21:30] <crutchy> ar... more people looking at ssl since heartbleed. it's a good thing that bugs are being found, cos it means they can also be squashed
[07:23:30] <crutchy> does it say anywhere that the claimant must have a policy?
[07:24:42] <SirFinkus> probably
[07:25:55] <crutchy> maybe someone could start an alien abduction insurance underwriting company
[07:26:10] <crutchy> selling insurance to the alien abduction insurers
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[07:50:30] <crutchy> g'day keplr
[07:50:52] <keplr> Hello
[07:50:54] <ciri> hi keplr
[08:27:19] <chromas> http://hdw.datawallpaper.com
[08:28:12] <chromas> probably got jealous of all the attention keyboard cat was getting
[08:32:58] <crutchy> or the 'i don't know what i'm doing' dog
[08:33:20] <chromas> error
[08:33:52] <chromas> expected ; but got "m doing"
[08:34:37] <crutchy> monopoly?
[08:34:55] <crutchy> i should have escaped the second '
[08:35:32] <chromas> :D
[08:36:06] <crutchy> otherwise i may inadvertently infect everyone's computer with the 'i don\'t know what i\'m doing dog' virus :p
[08:36:32] <crutchy> hmm wait that would only happen if i used backticks :)
[08:37:30] * chromas wonders if the bot is susceptible to such tricks since curl is called by way of shell
[08:37:44] <chromas> although my bash has been updated
[08:38:09] <crutchy> ooh really?
[08:38:33] <crutchy> http://' && cat /etc/passwd
[08:38:40] <crutchy> ;p
[08:39:04] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org' && cat /etc/passwd
[08:39:04] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[08:39:07] <chromas> didn't even fire off the url detector
[08:39:10] <chromas> well that did
[08:39:19] <crutchy> i suck at hackering
[08:39:41] <chromas> I think it cut off at the '
[08:39:45] <chromas> or the "'"
[08:40:33] <crutchy> is it in your github?
[08:40:59] <chromas> yeah
[08:41:22] <crutchy> i can see if i can think of any ways might be able to exploit. probably won't cos its protected by the Aura Of Pascal Awesomesauce
[08:41:47] <chromas> in urlstuff.pas I think
[08:42:17] <chromas> well but the protection is countered by the Blight of Hackishness
[08:43:57] <crutchy> https://github.com
[08:44:30] <chromas> is that still there? I do need to update
[08:44:40] <chromas> url_title4
[08:45:02] <chromas> that's what I get for putting versioning in the filename :D
[08:46:12] <crutchy> can't see any url_title4 anywhere
[08:46:54] <chromas> well chit
[08:47:26] <crutchy> jared@debian:~$ curl
[08:47:27] <crutchy> bash: curl: command not found
[08:47:32] <crutchy> :/
[08:47:40] <chromas> you can also use wget
[08:47:56] <chromas> slightly different defaults but they're basically the same thing
[08:48:28] <chromas> curl defaults to writing to stdout and doesn't follow redirects (or was that wget?)
[08:49:02] * crutchy has never directly used curl or wget
[08:49:56] <crutchy> hmm
[08:50:46] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org" && cat /etc/passwd "
[08:50:47] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[08:51:23] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org"&&ls"
[08:51:24] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[08:51:44] <crutchy> does monopoly strip quotes from URLs?
[08:53:06] <crutchy> ah looks like it has a whitelist filter here: https://github.com
[08:53:11] <crutchy> chromas++
[08:53:11] <Bender> karma - chromas: 45
[08:54:25] <chromas> I guess there's gitignore or whatever, but what I did was make a separate directory and linked in the files I wanted to put up, so some like url_title4 are missing
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[08:55:53] <crutchy> i keep shit like password and data files in other subdirectories or the parent directory. hence why you see stuff like ../data/file
[08:56:05] <crutchy> s/or/of/
[08:56:05] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> i keep shit like passwofd and data files in other subdirectories or the parent directory. hence why you see stuff like ../data/file
[08:56:21] <chromas> crutchy: s/.*/shit/g
[08:56:21] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <crutchy> shit
[08:56:26] <chromas> crutchy: s/./shit/g
[08:56:26] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <crutchy> shitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshit
[08:56:32] <crutchy> passwofd++
[08:56:32] <Bender> karma - passwofd: 1
[08:56:33] * chromas shows himself out the door
[08:57:12] <crutchy> SedBot9000 has the runs :D
[08:59:33] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org&&ls
[08:59:33] <NetCraft> ^ 03ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved
[08:59:54] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org'&&ls
[08:59:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[09:00:06] <chromas> yeah without the ' it took the whole thing
[09:00:40] <crutchy> can't get around that damn whitelist not allowing double-quote :p
[09:01:15] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org'&&400TB
[09:01:16] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[09:01:35] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org&&http:
[09:01:35] <NetCraft> ^ 03ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved
[09:02:15] <crutchy> hax0rzing is not my thing
[09:03:31] <chromas> lol @ 400TB :)
[09:03:32] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[09:03:41] <chromas> it most certainly is, ciri
[09:04:57] <crutchy> ooh looks like githuib may have feeds
[09:04:58] <crutchy> https://api.github.com
[09:05:18] <crutchy> gotta put an application header or something maybe
[09:05:44] <crutchy> s/application/accept-content/
[09:05:44] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> gotta put an accept-content header or something maybe
[09:06:18] <crutchy> or just accept
[09:08:44] <chromas> fish++
[09:08:44] <Bender> karma - fish: 5
[09:09:03] <chromas> don't really remember the git commands but I start to type and fish gives me hints
[09:09:22] <crutchy> fish?
[09:09:27] <chromas> shell
[09:09:36] <chromas> instead of bash or zsh or something
[09:09:42] <crutchy> oh that might be the one xlefay suggested all those eons ago
[09:09:58] <crutchy> is that the one with the cool arrow thingys?
[09:10:00] <chromas> or pj
[09:10:12] <chromas> yeah although that's not really part of it
[09:10:19] <chromas> could probably do that in bash too
[09:10:19] <crutchy> typing 'fish' into google is dumb
[09:10:31] <chromas> apt-cache search fish
[09:10:53] <chromas> riendly interactive shell
[09:10:57] <chromas> f
[09:11:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft’s Quantum Mechanics - http://sylnt.us - getting-a-bit-closer
[09:12:50] <SirFinkus> oh, fish
[09:12:54] <SirFinkus> I like it
[09:12:57] <crutchy> ~rehash
[09:12:58] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (93 aliases)
[09:13:00] <SirFinkus> fish++
[09:13:00] <Bender> karma - fish: 6
[09:13:29] <crutchy> there was one that had shaded arrow bar thingys on the left hand side of the shell (as a prompt i think)
[09:13:45] <crutchy> looked awesome when xlefay showed me, but i cant remember name
[09:13:48] <chromas> Ask Soylent: What options are there re stuffing one's pet?
[09:13:55] <crutchy> i think it might not be free
[09:14:17] <crutchy> there's always stuffing it into a box option
[09:14:36] <chromas> http://cd1.eju.tv
[09:14:41] <crutchy> or burying it in a hole
[09:14:49] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Might have been zsh with oh-my-zsh?
[09:14:55] <chromas> nah it needs to be stuffed and wireframed so I can pose it
[09:15:13] <JamesNZ> Heh, or that^
[09:15:19] <crutchy> oh yeah that piccy chromas. thems the arrow shady bar thingys :)
[09:15:52] <chromas> I have that but I'm pretty sure you can have it in bash. in fact you can put whatever you want for the prompt—even cowsay
[09:15:53] <crutchy> how do they make those shady bars
[09:15:55] <ciri> doing great here
[09:16:03] <chromas> you could cowsay the current directory
[09:16:07] <crutchy> lol
[09:16:08] <ciri> heh
[09:16:33] <crutchy> i wanted to put the timestamp that exec spits out every line into a shady bar like fish
[09:16:37] <chromas>
[09:16:38] <JamesNZ> The only thing I don't like about fish is the way it prints the autocomplete options instead of temporarily displaying them like zsh.
[09:16:43] <chromas> just unicode chars
[09:16:57] <crutchy> couldn't find a nice full height arrow
[09:17:40] <SirFinkus> I'd probably like zsh more, but I can't be assed setting it up
[09:18:13] <crutchy> like this: http://unicode-table.com but full height
[09:18:14] <NetCraft> ^ 03&? — Black Right-Pointing Triangle (U+25B6) — Geometric Shapes — Unicode character table
[09:18:25] <crutchy> that one isn't full height from (vague) memory
[09:19:05] <chromas> 07,12 teehee 12
[09:20:29] <crutchy> 02,04dffff04,00▶
[09:20:44] <crutchy> yeah its only half height :(
[09:20:54] <chromas> that would look right except by background isn't white :D
[09:21:01] <chromas> oh yeah and half height
[09:21:27] <crutchy> i put 00 as bg cos i couldn't remember the default color
[09:21:34] <chromas> it's a private use char, like many of the emoji
[09:22:01] <chromas> 07,12so if this doesn't have an arrow for you → 12
[09:22:23] <chromas> you probably need a font that has it; it's &#57520;
[09:22:59] <SirFinkus> I use ➤
[09:26:33] <ar> →
[09:26:41] <ar> ←↓→↑
[09:27:21] <ar> i like those arrows as you can enter them with alt+[yui] (+shift for ↑) with setxkbmap -layout pl -variant basic -option ctrl:nocaps
[09:28:12] <chromas> compose_key++
[09:28:12] <Bender> karma - compose_key: 1
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[10:09:20] <chromas> exec++
[10:09:20] <Bender> karma - exec: 15
[10:09:22] <chromas> crutchy++
[10:09:22] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 109
[10:10:27] <crutchy> maybe i should run the github feed in #dev, just so there's at least something going on in there :p
[10:10:44] <chromas> lol
[10:14:48] <crutchy> ~rehash
[10:14:49] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (93 aliases)
[10:20:03] <chromas> enlightenment++
[10:20:03] <Bender> karma - enlightenment: 0
[10:20:19] <chromas> 0. I guess it's at zen now
[10:20:36] <chromas> it's got better virtual desktops than kde
[10:35:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:35:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 956
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[10:37:19] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:37:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 957
[10:38:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> my ass is teh slow n draggy this mornin
[10:44:08] <Leebert> Oh, it's morning? That explains it.
[10:44:22] <Leebert> Guess I should go put on pants.
[10:44:34] <crutchy> pants--
[10:44:34] <Bender> karma - pants: -3
[10:47:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> morning--
[10:47:54] <Bender> karma - morning: -2
[10:53:07] <chromas> I tried out gedit. Looks a little like it may be related to firefox or gnome
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[10:59:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> never really used it. gvim ftw.
[11:06:55] <crutchy> gedit is part of gnome
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[11:08:44] <crutchy> might mix nerds into some icecream
[11:08:47] <crutchy> yummo
[11:09:36] <chromas> NUUUUURRRDS!
[11:12:07] <crutchy> ooh
[11:12:08] <crutchy> http://notepad-plus-plus.org
[11:12:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03Notepad++ Function List
[11:12:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[11:12:18] <NetCraft> ^ 03Revenge of the Nerds - NERDS! - YouTube
[11:12:27] <crutchy> if only gedit had that i would be happy as a pig in shit
[11:13:22] <crutchy> oh fuck yeah! https://github.com
[11:17:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm....
[11:18:21] <crutchy> its in the debian repos :/
[11:23:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> we're encoding in the wrong places. should not be encoding stuff before it hits the db but as it comes out
[11:25:40] <crutchy> ok i'm happy as a pig in shit now: http://picpaste.com
[11:26:19] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:26:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 958
[11:31:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Study Reports an Increase in the Diversity of Scientific Publishing - http://sylnt.us - nonelite-is-non-elite-or-none-lite?
[11:34:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:34:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 959
[11:36:29] <chromas> gedit didn't look anything at all like that for me
[11:36:47] <chromas> Everything was shoved into a single menu in the corner
[11:40:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> several places stuff gets encoded for xml and damned if i can find the one turning & into &#x26;
[11:44:56] <chromas> crutchy: http://worldofgnome.org
[11:46:43] <chromas> Gnome3--
[11:46:43] <Bender> karma - gnome3: -3
[11:47:42] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: maybe it encodes to decimal then used converts :)
[11:48:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> would almost have to use ord() to turn it to decimal and not finding where that's being done.
[11:48:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess it could be using sprintf
[11:54:27] <crutchy> that's a weird looking gedit
[11:57:10] <chromas> I think it comes with crayons
[12:04:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg
[12:04:48] <chromas> s/ / nontoxic /5
[12:04:48] <SedBot9000> <chromas> I think it comes with nontoxic crayons
[12:05:25] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: time to start from scratch
[12:05:35] <crutchy> pascal++
[12:05:35] <Bender> karma - pascal: 36
[12:05:49] <chromas> Have you tried turning it off and on again?
[12:06:00] <chromas> pascal++
[12:06:00] <Bender> karma - pascal: 37
[12:06:08] <crutchy> i was reading a bit about cms-free websites today
[12:06:16] <chromas> Oh, I ruined the evenness
[12:06:27] <chromas> Do they still exist?
[12:06:40] <crutchy> using other means to administer and construct static website content
[12:07:17] <crutchy> when you think about it, what comes to the browser is just html, css, images, etc
[12:07:22] <chromas> Like notepad
[12:07:26] <crutchy> cms just constructs it
[12:08:03] <crutchy> theres people out there trying to make website content delivery more efficient by redesigning the cms out of it
[12:09:04] <chromas> cms is good because 'content creators' don't have to know what they're doing
[12:10:19] <crutchy> i think its more about separating content creation from content delivery. i guess kinda like slash and varnish
[12:10:35] <crutchy> but not just caching
[12:10:53] <chromas> Dunno what that would be
[12:10:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'all varnish does though
[12:11:31] <crutchy> i thinks its about using different methods to create content, like a git type thing (for example)
[12:11:38] <chromas> A cms is just a fancy mail merge
[12:11:47] <Konomi> the "new" firefox ui has a power button icon for the quit option
[12:11:53] <Konomi> I want to fucking stab someone ._.
[12:11:55] <chromas> Yep
[12:12:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i jumped ship and went to pale moon
[12:12:24] <chromas> I, for one, so turned off by the power switch
[12:12:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> no complaints yet
[12:12:44] <chromas> ^ same
[12:12:45] <crutchy> iceweasel++ # for being slow to catch up
[12:12:45] <Bender> karma - iceweasel: 2
[12:13:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i'm damned near ready to do exactly that on the start from scratch thing. slash is pretty jacked up in the amount of bs necessary to create an rss/atom feed.
[12:14:25] <crutchy> chromas, does that mean you're going to "switch off" to any conversation about ff's new power switch?
[12:14:38] <chromas> That's where your api comes in handy. To the buzzardmobile!
[12:15:07] <Konomi> I think I can keep using the stable branch of debian to stick with a lower version forever
[12:15:15] * crutchy imagines a vw combi van with fishing rods hanging out the back windows
[12:15:17] <Konomi> but the tor browser uses the new one now and my eyes bleed
[12:15:17] <chromas> crutchy: or maybe it's just save to open the door now
[12:15:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, the pulling stories out of the db parts can stay. considering dropping entirely our slash-specific modules for feed creation though.
[12:16:05] <crutchy> i thought the crappy slow new ff was still just in the nightly build
[12:16:10] <chromas> Konomi: can you just use older ff in a separate profile?
[12:16:13] <crutchy> has it already trickled down?
[12:16:36] <Konomi> doubt I could tor uses a custom compiled one with fixes for privacy soo....
[12:17:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> sad-face for you, Konomi
[12:17:23] * crutchy offers Konomi some pants
[12:17:48] <crutchy> oops i mean tissues
[12:18:35] <crutchy> its tama's fault i have pants on the brain
[12:19:05] * chromas gives crutchy brainctl
[12:19:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> what's a tama? no, wait, do i care what a tama is? && what's a tama?
[12:19:24] <chromas> #
[12:19:30] <crutchy> brainctl stop pants
[12:19:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> feh to #
[12:19:40] <chromas> Secret plot
[12:19:49] <chromas> To take over the soylent
[12:20:15] <crutchy> with our army of pants
[12:20:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> someone sub this http://www.reuters.com
[12:20:37] <NetCraft> ^ 03Lockheed says makes breakthrough on fusion energy project| Reuters
[12:20:38] <chromas> Giant radioactive rubber pants! The pants command me
[12:21:01] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, i think its already in the far queue
[12:21:07] <crutchy> ~queue
[12:21:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, sure nuff
[12:21:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> go bout yer business then
[12:21:41] <crutchy> exec--
[12:21:41] <Bender> karma - exec: 14
[12:21:46] <crutchy> stoopid bot
[12:22:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[12:22:12] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK - currrently 52°F / 11°C, clear, wind S at 6 mph, humidity 88% - Thursday partly cloudy (52°F-82°F / 11°C-28°C), Friday partly cloudy (50°F-81°F / 10°C-27°C), Saturday clear (45°F-72°F / 7°C-22°C), Sunday partly cloudy (52°F-72°F / 11°C-22°C) - source: Google
[12:23:17] <chromas> Currrently
[12:24:57] <crutchy> yes
[12:25:13] <crutchy> that's how you say it when its cold :p
[12:25:47] <chromas> exec: s/c/b/
[12:25:48] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <exec> Weather for Ada, OK - burrrently 52°F / 11°C, clear, wind S at 6 mph, humidity 88% - Thursday partly cloudy (52°F-82°F / 11°C-28°C), Friday partly cloudy (50°F-81°F / 10°C-27°C), Saturday clear (45°F-72°F / 7°C-22°C), Sunday partly cloudy (52°F-72°F / 11°C-22°C) - source: Google
[12:26:19] <chromas> ~weather
[12:26:20] <exec> Weather for Walla Walla, WA - currently 46°F / 8°C, clear, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 78% - Thursday partly cloudy (45°F-64°F / 7°C-18°C), Friday partly cloudy (52°F-70°F / 11°C-21°C), Saturday partly cloudy (48°F-73°F / 9°C-23°C), Sunday partly cloudy (52°F-75°F / 11°C-24°C) - source: Google
[12:26:51] <chromas> :( I get fewer Rs
[12:27:21] <crutchy> i just turned the heater on so exec isn't cold any more :D
[12:28:03] <crutchy> ~weather
[12:28:05] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC, Australia - currently 48°F / 9°C, clear, wind W at 3 mph, humidity 97% - Thursday chance of rain (39°F-57°F / 4°C-14°C), Friday partly cloudy (41°F-63°F / 5°C-17°C), Saturday partly cloudy (55°F-75°F / 13°C-24°C), Sunday partly cloudy (41°F-79°F / 5°C-26°C) - source: Google
[12:29:52] * TheMightyBuzzard gives up and plays video games
[12:31:37] <chromas> Slash-- # for being obtuse
[12:31:37] <Bender> karma - slash: -1
[12:31:39] <crutchy> ~suggest-api a queue op to get the number of accepted articles waiting to be put out
[12:31:46] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://sylnt.us
[12:31:52] <chromas> Slash++ # for playing guitar
[12:31:52] <Bender> karma - slash: 0
[12:32:36] <chromas> Slash-- # for being between 90 and 180 degrees
[12:32:36] <Bender> karma - slash: -1
[12:34:18] <crutchy> slash-- # for indecently flashing its insides all over the interwebz for all to see
[12:34:18] <Bender> karma - slash: -2
[12:34:54] <crutchy> including its naughty bits
[12:50:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Bees are being Used Instead of Fungicides in Australia - http://sylnt.us - cheap-employees || SSLv3 "Poodle" Vulnerability Revealed - http://sylnt.us - curly-fur
[12:56:51] <chromas> Shaved_poodles--
[12:56:51] <Bender> karma - shaved_poodles: -1
[12:56:58] <chromas> poodles--
[12:56:58] <Bender> karma - poodles: -1
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[13:32:08] <Leebert> I blame Australia.
[13:33:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> I blame the french.
[13:34:02] <Leebert> They do hate freedom, after all.
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[13:45:40] <Konomi> 3g a different kind of bad to dial up
[14:10:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.inquisitr.com
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[14:20:06] <chromas> Nuke Africa
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[14:22:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> man what the crap. adblock plus isn't working in pale moon 25
[14:25:08] <chromas> Haven't run into that but the theme I use sometimes isn't kept up to date and needs the max version adjusted
[14:30:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, solved. https://addons.palemoon.org
[14:47:59] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: it works once in a blue moon
[14:49:03] <ar> huh
[14:49:10] <ar> google can calculate that: once in a blue moon =
[14:49:10] <ar> 1.16699016 × 10-8 hertz
[14:50:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> funky
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[15:38:58] <Leebert> Ebola is a Secret Service conspiracy to distract attention from white house security.
[15:40:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, dems won't ever say a bad word about the administration and reps don't care if he gets himself shot.
[15:40:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> no need to distract from it
[15:41:12] <Leebert> Sure, but a girl was in charge, that alone was enough to rile up the republicans.
[15:42:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya think? i'm pretty sure putting a pet rock in charge would be fine with them.
[15:45:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> really have no idea who's mad about what though. i had to quit watching tv news.
[15:45:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> fox will always go out of their way to support the neocons and everyone else will always go out of their way to support the SJWs
[15:46:07] <Leebert> I know that DC locals are mad at the secret service kneejerk reaction to consider increasing the security buffer of the WH
[15:46:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> there simply is no good political reporting on tv
[15:46:21] <Leebert> Even the urbanists, who usually rejoice in the closing of streets.
[15:46:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, they're prolly just annoyed about traffic though.
[15:47:44] <Leebert> I've been less than nice to secret service police when they made me walk the long way on the south lawn because it was night.
[15:47:55] <Leebert> They're kinda jerks.
[15:48:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> most US cops are. they don't get Don't Be A Dick training like the brits do.
[15:49:09] <Leebert> Actually, the US Park Police in DC are really good.
[15:49:19] <Leebert> They handled OWS very admirably.
[15:49:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> whatsa OWS?
[15:49:33] <Leebert> I guess because they're used to protest events and such.
[15:49:37] <Leebert> Occupy Wall Street.
[15:49:43] <Leebert> It had its own DC contingent.
[15:49:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah, nod nod.
[15:50:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> park rangers around here are flipping psychos. get given ar15s and love any excuse to use them.
[15:51:56] <Leebert> Park rangers with AR-15's eh?
[15:52:07] <Leebert> That makes... sense?
[15:52:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> them n game wardens, yeah.
[15:52:28] <Leebert> Every now and then in Washington Union Station, Amtrak police are walking around with M4's.
[15:52:54] <Leebert> And I'm like: What on earth are you going to shoot in a train station that requires not just a rifle, but burst and/or full auto?
[15:54:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> Terrorists apparently.
[15:55:06] <Leebert> you mean "photographers"?
[15:56:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> Personally, I don't give two shits about terrorists if all they can manage is to be less annoying than lightning strikes.
[15:56:44] <Leebert> Agree.
[15:57:16] <Leebert> I'm not afraid of terrorists, and I'm currenly 4 blocks from the Capitol building which puts me at risk way more than the average American.
[15:57:38] <Leebert> Much more afraid of out-of-control law enforcement; been on the wrong side of that a few times.
[15:57:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> you need a monkey trained to throw poop at motorcades.
[15:59:00] <Leebert> There aren't really too many of those.
[15:59:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> Hrm... anyone with an earpiece in then.
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[18:33:46] * Leebert just discovered multiple -f arguments to tail, AND multitail
[18:34:05] <Leebert> 20 freaking years of using Unix... and there's still something new to learn every day.
[18:40:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - It's 2014 and You Can Still Pwn a Windoze Box Using a Word File or Font - http://sylnt.us - separation-of-concerns
[19:16:35] <chromas> from the cough-environment-variables-anyone? dept
[19:41:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - It's 2014 and You Can Still Own a Windows Box Using a Word File or Font - http://sylnt.us - separation-of-concerns
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[20:13:23] <srobert> When did soylentnews.org start?
[20:15:22] <chromas> many moons ago
[20:16:21] <srobert> I posted a "fork it" comment months ago on that other site. I don't know if I planted a seed or encouraged it. But glad to see it's underway.
[20:17:03] <chromas> It was around the time dice pushed beta a second time without changing a thing since we told them it sucked the first time
[20:17:07] <chromas> ~February I think
[20:18:07] <srobert> The site looks good. Like the other one used to.
[20:18:07] <chromas> I think pipedot's just a bit older
[20:21:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Anyone Can Learn Programming - http://sylnt.us - teach-yourself-C-in-twenty-four-hours
[20:22:24] <srobert> I've got a login ID. Very near the same 4-digit ID I have on the other site.
[20:22:36] <chromas> Good timing
[20:23:06] <chromas> If it's lower then keep trying new ones until you get it—can never have too many sockpuppet accounts :)
[20:27:41] <srobert> lol. No it's just a little higher.
[20:28:26] <srobert> 4099 vs 4803
[20:29:33] <Leebert> I have many sads because I had 1694 on /.
[20:30:54] <chromas> The staff members do take bribes—$300 minimum
[20:32:10] <srobert> lol. If history repeats in 20 years soylentnews will be issuing 8-digit ID's and we'll be complaining about the site.
[20:33:09] <chromas> at least we'll have better code to fork from
[20:33:47] <srobert> Should be. I gotta go. Take care.
[20:34:02] <chromas> See ya; thanks for coming over
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[20:34:14] <chromas> moar users!
[20:41:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - It's 2014 and You Can Still Own a Box Using a Word File, a TTF Font, or Flash - http://sylnt.us - separation-of-concerns
[20:42:20] <crutchy> o.0
[20:42:35] <chromas> From Windoze to Windows to a Box
[20:42:44] * crutchy wishes he owned a Box
[20:42:52] * chromas heads down to the campus to attempt box ownage
[20:43:36] <crutchy> don't forget to take a word file or ttf font with you
[20:43:38] <Leebert> Hmm. I *did* buy a gmail invite Back in The Day...
[20:43:44] <crutchy> lol or flash!
[20:43:44] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[20:44:02] <crutchy> flash at the campus and you'll own a box
[20:44:44] <chromas> aw; I was going to see how many invites I still had in gmail but they finally took away the notification
[20:44:46] <crutchy> coffee++
[20:44:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 960
[20:44:57] <chromas> it was there years after they opened up to everyone
[20:45:09] <Leebert> Ya.
[20:45:35] <Leebert> It amazes me how many people try to duplicate that without realizing that the reason everyone wanted a gmail invite wasn't because gmail was cool
[20:45:52] <Leebert> It was because gmail was offering a gigabyte of mailbox space when everyone else was giving you like 20 MB
[20:46:25] <Leebert> And then you get boneheaded things like Ello, which gets its 15 minutes of fame but wasn't designed properly to scale.
[20:46:51] <Leebert> I mean, that's like Job One on a social networking site, because if you magically get lots of press you need to leverage that stuff while it's still hot.
[20:47:20] <chromas> Doesn't need to scale; just need someone to dump cash on you then you can go off and do something else
[20:48:06] <crutchy> just gotta get plenty of fooshes. they have lots of scale
[20:48:16] <Leebert> Let me rephrase it then:
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[20:48:18] <crutchy> or a rusty old building
[20:48:29] <crutchy> lots of rust scale there
[20:48:30] <chromas> crutchy: spiderfooshes
[20:48:41] <Leebert> You need to get as many users on board as possible; that whole network effect thing is crucial in social networks.
[20:48:41] <chromas> spiderfooshes—they webscale
[20:48:52] <crutchy> fooshes sounds like a good name for a debian package
[20:49:40] <Leebert> ooo; I need to write an indespensible app called "Debian Package", so people then have to "apt-get install debian-package"
[20:49:44] <crutchy> ~apt search *fooshes*
[20:50:05] <crutchy> damn someone should make that bot scripty
[20:50:29] <crutchy> why type in a terminal when you can flood an irc channel?
[20:50:53] <chromas> need a shellbot
[20:53:49] <crutchy> ~exec-add ~ls|0|0|0|1|crutchy|||0|ls %%trailing%%
[20:53:50] <exec> successfully added exec line
[20:54:01] <crutchy> not sure if this would work
[20:54:08] <crutchy> ~ls
[20:54:23] <crutchy> bugger
[20:54:27] <crutchy> it did ls ''
[20:54:43] <crutchy> ~exec-add ~ls|0|0|0|1|crutchy|||0|ls
[20:54:44] <exec> successfully added exec line
[20:54:47] <crutchy> ~ls
[20:55:01] <crutchy> hmm think i did that wrong
[20:55:48] <crutchy> ~exec-add ~ls|0|0|1|1|crutchy|||0|ls ./sh
[20:55:49] <exec> successfully added exec line
[20:55:51] <crutchy> ~ls
[20:55:52] <exec> publish.sh
[20:55:53] <exec> push.sh
[20:55:53] <exec> sync.sh
[20:55:57] <crutchy> that's better
[20:56:17] <crutchy> can't seem to make it accept generic shell arguments though :/
[20:56:30] <crutchy> it quotes everything
[20:57:27] <chromas> rewrite
[20:57:33] <chromas> from scratch
[20:57:44] <crutchy> yeah
[20:57:48] <crutchy> security--
[20:57:48] <Bender> karma - security: -1
[20:57:58] <crutchy> securetah--
[20:57:58] <Bender> karma - securetah: -1
[20:58:18] <chromas> respect_ma_authoritah--
[20:58:18] <Bender> karma - respect_ma_authoritah: -1
[20:58:47] <crutchy> ah crap gotta to to workipoos
[20:58:50] <crutchy> laterz
[20:58:52] <chromas> :(--
[20:58:55] <chromas> bye
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