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[01:24:55] <Konomi> get up read soylent head lines
[01:24:59] <Konomi> go back to bed strait away
[01:25:05] <SpallsHurgenson> repeat?
[01:27:25] <Konomi> ;p
[01:27:57] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, there probably should be some sleep in between there, otherwise you'll be popping up and down like a jack-in-the-box
[01:36:21] <Konomi> http://www.phoronix.com
[01:36:21] <NetCraft> ^ 03[Phoronix] Apple Might Be Divesting Its Stake In LLVM
[01:36:24] <Konomi> is it bad I thought
[01:36:30] <Konomi> "So long and thanks for all the code"
[01:42:00] <chromas> chili++
[01:42:00] <Bender> karma - chili: 2
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[01:42:20] <SpallsHurgenson> chilly--
[01:42:20] <Bender> karma - chilly: -1
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[01:42:59] <chromas> Is swift a frontend for llvm?
[01:43:37] <chromas> oh; one click says I should learn2read
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[01:47:49] <SpallsHurgenson> don't do it; you won't like the places literacy takes you
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[01:50:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Li-ion Batteries Promise 20 Year Life and Rapid Charge Time - http://sylnt.us - with-strange-ions
[01:50:45] <Bytram> coffee++
[01:50:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 949
[01:51:21] <Konomi> "don't do it; you won't like the places literacy takes you" made me laugh
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[01:53:11] <SpallsHurgenson> yay! I made a funny!
[01:54:23] <chromas> new borderlands is out
[01:54:25] <chromas> spendy--
[01:54:25] <Bender> karma - spendy: -1
[01:54:40] <SpallsHurgenson> I got it as a freebie when I bought a new videocard
[01:55:07] <SpallsHurgenson> but seeing as I haven't even bothered to play BL2, I'm in no rush to download the next one
[01:55:28] <chromas> All I got was Guardian of Light, which was already old and on sale by then
[01:56:00] <SpallsHurgenson> got that one too; cheapie from humblebundle :)
[01:56:15] <chromas> didn't care for bl?
[01:56:23] <chromas> or just too many other things going on
[01:56:27] <chromas> priorities--
[01:56:27] <Bender> karma - priorities: 0
[01:56:58] <SpallsHurgenson> not really; action-looters aren't my thing. I like story and exploration; endless combat and pointless weapon-combinations don't do much for me :)
[01:59:23] <chromas> stories are good, as long as they're not 875-hour cut scenes (MGS franchise, I'm looking at you)
[02:01:36] <Konomi> web 2.0 sites are so fun
[02:01:44] <Konomi> temporarly allow al sites
[02:01:47] <Konomi> 4x pressed
[02:01:51] <Konomi> still can't load the comments
[02:01:56] <Konomi> obviously needs more javascript
[02:02:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i love me some unnecessary javascript
[02:02:47] <Konomi> I still wish firefox had what IE team mad ironically
[02:03:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> thinking of rewriting comments to feed in new ones like twitter
[02:03:14] <Konomi> they had a system where any cookies that never got a read/write over x amount of days would be purged from the cache automatically
[02:03:18] <Konomi> god I so want that for firefox
[02:03:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, ya that'd actually be pretty sweet
[02:03:55] <Bytram> there's actually an add-on that does something much like that...
[02:03:57] <SpallsHurgenson> there's an add-on for that
[02:04:11] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, I don't know if there is... but odds are in favor that it exists :)
[02:04:16] <Bytram> self-destructing cookies
[02:04:20] <Bytram> hold on...
[02:04:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, whatcha think. force newest-first, unthreaded, use json and javascript to load new comments dynamically?
[02:05:23] <Konomi> already used it Bytram it does not replicate that functionality
[02:05:29] <Konomi> it's just for when you close the tab
[02:05:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> we could be even more awesome than beta!
[02:06:53] <Bytram> Konomi: there is a grace period field: "Cookies will be removed after remaining unused for this many seconds (default 10)
[02:07:50] <Konomi> think it would allow me to put 604800 seconds into it ;p
[02:08:20] <Konomi> plus that doesn't say anything about the read/write hits
[02:09:11] <paulej72> make all the stories look like twitter feeds, sure that souds,good
[02:09:59] <Bytram> Konomi: sure, it let *me* do it.
[02:10:04] <Konomi> lol
[02:10:04] <ciri> HEHEHEHE
[02:10:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> now we need a cutesy little mascot. little green stick figure?
[02:10:23] <Konomi> I've used that one before but I ended up removing it cause it pops up and down on the bar in animations
[02:10:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> and a fail shark cause sharks are cooler than whales
[02:11:28] <Bytram> Konomi: so, just uncheck the "Notifications" checkbox.
[02:11:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should probably go to sleep now
[02:11:40] <Konomi> I was thinking of just removing it from the bar entirely
[02:11:50] <Konomi> once cookies expire regularly I don't care about controlling them
[02:12:56] <Bytram> Konomi: don't see why you couldn't. I am still on ff 24.8.1 (esr)...
[02:13:16] <matt_> .topic https://SoylentNews.org | Useful links: http://sylnt.us | SN PBC Board Meeting - Wednesday, Oct. 29 at 1:15am UTC (Tue, Oct. 28 at 9:15pm EDT) in #staff, all are welcome
[02:13:16] juggler changed topic of #Soylent to: https://SoylentNews.org | Useful links: http://sylnt.us | SN PBC Board Meeting - Wednesday, Oct. 29 at 1:15am UTC (Tue, Oct. 28 at 9:15pm EDT) in #staff, all are welcome
[02:13:22] <Bytram> I could probably launch "customize tool bar" and drag the icon back into the "draw pile" and remove it from the UI
[02:13:28] <Konomi> Bytram: same that new interface *hurl*
[02:13:35] <Konomi> yeah
[02:13:54] <Bytram> actually, no. I've still got the same old interface.
[02:13:59] <Bytram> no new ui for me.
[02:15:15] <Konomi> Bytram: found a better one
[02:15:16] <Konomi> https://addons.mozilla.org
[02:15:18] <Konomi> awesome
[02:15:35] <Konomi> "detele unused for" 1 week"
[02:15:38] <Konomi> yessshh
[02:16:08] <Bytram> addons++
[02:16:08] <Bender> karma - addons: 1
[02:16:27] <Konomi> good bye cookie permissions
[02:17:51] <Bytram> can I please have a cookie?
[02:18:32] <Bytram> hmm, didn't get permission. =(
[02:18:57] <chromas> 🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪
[02:19:02] <Bytram> Konomi: btw, thanks to you I was reminded I hadn't checked for addon updates in a while... refreshing them now.
[02:19:11] <Konomi> hehe
[02:19:33] <Bytram> chromas: just see a buncha utf-8 boxes with four zeroes in each. sorry!
[02:20:00] <paulej72> cookies
[02:20:24] <paulej72> chocolate chip
[02:20:29] <Bytram> paulej72: ah, thanks again! You're getting good at translating for me here!
[02:20:33] <Bytram> yum!
[02:20:55] <Bytram> hmm, which reminds me that I should get some dinner.
[02:21:02] <Bytram> back in a few minutes.
[02:41:03] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[02:41:04] <NetCraft> ^ 03This smart battery warns you before catching fire - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[02:41:22] <chromas> #ftag huh
[02:41:46] <chromas> always adding something new to delete
[02:41:46] <Bytram> seems like they finally implemented the machine code instruction: HACF - Halt And Catch Fire
[02:41:53] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:42:05] <Bytram> brb
[02:48:19] <Bytram> back
[02:49:49] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[02:49:49] <NetCraft> ^ 03Rosetta probe takes new selfie just 10 MILES from comet 67P/C-G • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[02:50:47] <Bytram> http://rss.computerworld.com
[02:50:48] <NetCraft> ^ 03YouTube served malicious ads | Computerworld ( http://www.computerworld.com )
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[02:56:18] <Bytram> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:56:59] <Konomi> anyone using windows ever made use of any "package managers" on it?
[02:57:04] <Konomi> not cygwin's one
[02:57:13] <Bytram> choice bit from that one: "The comet is traveling at 33 miles per second (or 1.7715 per cent of the maximum velocity of a sheep in a vacuum in El Reg units). "
[02:57:27] <chromas> windows has a package manager but almost nobody uses it
[02:57:44] <chromas> or when they do, they still use a setup.exe with the .msi inside
[02:57:51] <Bytram> check out what GNU uses?
[02:57:56] <Konomi> thinkng of things more like this
[02:57:57] <Konomi> https://npackd.appspot.com
[02:58:15] * Bytram remembers many windows progs use[d] installshield
[02:58:44] <Bytram> Konomi: is this windows *only* ?
[02:58:51] <Konomi> I presume so
[02:59:18] <Bytram> hmm, let me rephrase the question: are YOU only intersted in creating a package that will do an install on windows?
[02:59:32] <Bytram> or, are there other OSs, too?
[03:00:57] <chromas> hey, does anyone remember when NSIS used to be "Superpimp"?
[03:01:09] <chromas> aol--
[03:01:09] <Bender> karma - aol: -1
[03:01:13] <Bytram> ~define NSIS
[03:01:15] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3NSIS: Not Sure If Sarcasm. Used when you're not clever enough to know if someone is being sarcastic or not, but you're modest enough to admit it.
[03:01:30] <chromas> Nullsoft SuperPIMP Install System
[03:01:39] <Bytram> lol
[03:02:12] <Bytram> Nicely-Spelled Installation System
[03:02:20] <chromas> they changed it to "Scriptable" though
[03:02:36] <chromas> no wonder the good people left nullsoft
[03:02:45] <Bytram> that sounds so much more... corporate.
[03:03:00] <chromas> cockos++
[03:03:00] <Bender> karma - cockos: 1
[03:03:12] <Bytram> cuckoos++
[03:03:12] <Bender> karma - cuckoos: 1
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[03:05:41] <Bytram> http://www.theregister.co.uk
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[03:08:56] <Bytram|away> 'tis late and time for sleep.
[03:09:06] <Bytram|away> take care, all.
[03:09:08] <chromas> night sir
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[03:34:57] <agnwr_000> Hey
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[03:35:12] <juggs> hi agnwr_000 :)
[03:35:12] <ciri> hello juggs
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[03:51:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Bees are being Used in-place-of Fungicides in Australia - http://sylnt.us - cheap-employees
[04:00:44] <SpallsHurgenson> are they australian death-bees?
[04:04:14] <Leebert> They are... ill tempered.
[04:08:27] <Konomi> they're like me when I wake up in the morning
[04:08:28] <Konomi> cranky ;p
[04:14:47] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[04:14:48] <NetCraft> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[04:14:53] <Konomi> packaged screenfetch for debian \o/
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[04:53:47] <ar> Konomi: you're using tabs for identation? o_O
[04:54:00] <Konomi> ?
[04:54:12] <ar> https://github.com
[04:54:18] <Konomi> that is not my code...
[04:54:21] <ar> oh
[04:54:39] <Konomi> Maintainer is the person who makes the package
[04:54:44] <Konomi> not the project the code comes from
[04:54:54] <Konomi> though it can be the same person
[04:55:20] <ar> yeah, and it often is
[04:55:57] <Konomi> and yes I use tabs ;p
[04:56:20] <Konomi> don't see the difference between the two anymore since most editors can set soft or hard tabs width anyway
[04:59:33] <ar> it makes me cringe when i see code idented with tabs, as i often have to work without my vimrc
[04:59:47] <ar> for example, when editing scripts/configuration on servers
[05:33:55] <arti> tabs are ideal
[05:34:19] <ar> 4-spaces FTW
[05:34:23] <arti> you can use your editor to set the spaces...
[05:34:50] <arti> also, greetings
[05:34:56] * arti offers sealed candies
[05:41:12] <Konomi> we know they're safe they're sealed
[05:41:56] * Konomi chews on one and dies
[05:44:54] <Konomi> https://i.imgur.com
[05:46:38] <ar> Konomi: is that from burning man?
[05:46:44] <arti> kudos on the packaging, that's bueno.
[05:46:47] <Konomi> I was guessing so
[05:46:53] <arti> yeah
[05:47:12] <arti> what makes that is the flamethrower
[05:47:19] <arti> wish i could commute with that...
[05:47:26] <arti> "Dance, or die!"
[05:51:01] <chromas> http://www.wired.com
[05:51:01] <NetCraft> ^ 03Video Bloggers Get 'Microstopped' by Microsoft Takedown Notices | WIRED
[05:51:10] <chromas> "generate actionable intelligence from Big Data analysis and machine learning technologies"
[05:51:48] <chromas> zucchini_bread++
[05:51:48] <Bender> karma - zucchini_bread: 1
[06:01:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Maximizing your Udemy Experience - http://sylnt.us - You-Dummy
[06:04:59] <JamesNZ> zucchini_bread++
[06:04:59] <Bender> karma - zucchini_bread: 2
[06:09:39] <ar> http://thedailywtf.com
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[06:30:59] <Konomi> http://soylentnews.org
[06:30:59] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN article 03 New Li-ion Batteries Promise 20 Year Life and Rapid Charge Time 04(8 comments)
[06:31:06] <Konomi> believe it when I see it
[06:33:04] <chromas> need to invent the technology to keep them from swelling up when they're idle for a bit
[06:33:31] <Konomi> have we cured cancer again yet?
[06:33:35] <Konomi> just wonderin
[06:33:43] <chromas> which one?
[06:33:55] <chromas> we could cure battery cancer
[06:34:32] <Konomi> stupidity cancer please
[06:34:50] <chromas> probably will never cure that one
[06:35:12] <Konomi> but my happinesses
[06:35:31] <chromas> we can cure that
[06:36:19] <Konomi> https://imgur.com
[06:36:20] <NetCraft> ^ 03What I am learning at my new job - Imgur
[06:36:33] <Konomi> truer words have never been super imposed onto an image file
[06:36:58] <chromas> :( I never got the left one
[06:42:25] <Konomi> oh god
[06:42:27] <Konomi> so goooodddd
[06:42:29] <Konomi> https://i.imgur.com
[07:33:51] <SirFinkus> oh, it's the monthly "new battery technology" topic
[07:34:16] <SirFinkus> why don't I ever see any of these in my laptop?
[07:35:54] <ar> SirFinkus: you know that the best (and, surprisingly, one of the safest) laptop technologies has already been in production and in use for years?
[07:35:59] <ar> SirFinkus: RTG
[07:36:41] <ar> SirFinkus: but it's only used on military laptops. civilians aren't allowed to possess them -_-
[07:36:49] <SirFinkus> lame
[07:37:35] <SirFinkus> It just seems like I've been kind of following tech news for a decade now, and these stories pop up all the time
[07:37:49] <SirFinkus> either some magic new battery or super capacitor
[07:38:10] <SirFinkus> "charges in seconds, wirelessly!"
[07:38:14] <SirFinkus> forgive me for being jaded
[08:00:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Offshore Oil-rigs California’s Most Productive Fisheries - http://sylnt.us - reef-relief
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[08:15:04] <ar> SirFinkus: RTG would give you a few years of constant power
[08:15:36] <ar> it would be useless once it wore off, but i wouldn't mind
[08:15:51] <SirFinkus> isn't that the shit they used for curiousity?
[08:16:33] <ar> yup
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[08:17:47] <SirFinkus> aren't nuclear waste and heat problems?
[08:19:33] <ar> heat isn't much of a problem if you don't get oversized rtg. your typical laptop won't need more than 30 or 40W
[08:19:49] <ar> nuclear waste… well, yeah, maybe
[08:21:42] <SirFinkus> "In another case, three woodsmen in Georgia came across two ceramic RTG heat sources that had been stripped of their shielding. Two of the three were later hospitalized with severe radiation burns after carrying the sources on their backs. The units were eventually recovered and isolated."
[08:21:59] <SirFinkus> I'd rather my laptop not cause radiation burns if I drop it
[08:48:27] <crutchy> coffee++
[08:48:27] <Bender> karma - coffee: 950
[08:50:37] <chromas> https://access.redhat.com
[08:50:38] <NetCraft> ^ 03POODLE: SSLv3.0 vulnerability (CVE-2014-3566) - Red Hat Customer Portal
[08:51:31] <chromas> Poodle Hat
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[09:53:21] <keplr> Bless the Maker and His water. Bless the coming and going of Him. May His passage cleanse the Internet.
[09:55:42] <crutchy> praise jebus
[09:58:03] <keplr> A cow-orker of mine, a devout Christian, refused to read Dune because it was "Islamic".
[09:58:43] <crutchy> it is?
[09:58:55] <keplr> Not at all.
[09:59:12] <crutchy> i thought it was about big sandworms
[09:59:25] <keplr> Although, there are things in it that a Christian could find offensive.
[10:00:02] <keplr> Mostly that Christianity (as we know it) came to an end by just dying out and fading away, like all other religions.
[10:00:14] <crutchy> like rape, incest, crucifixion, etc... oh wait hang on that's a different book :p
[10:01:40] <keplr> Never trust a Christian who eats shellfish.
[10:02:19] <crutchy> i don't trust any religious person talking about religion
[10:03:14] <crutchy> including scientists and atheists
[10:04:37] <keplr> Them's fightin' words.
[10:05:04] <crutchy> nah not really
[10:05:10] <crutchy> more trollin words :D
[10:05:21] <keplr> Trolling is a art.
[10:09:56] * juggs is planning fresh mussels cooked in white wine and garlic for lunch - probably means I'll be going to hell :D
[10:11:07] <crutchy> no need to call your bed names :p
[10:15:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:15:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 951
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[10:49:14] <keplr> When I lived in Washington state, the beaches were encrusted with endless fields of mussels.
[10:50:04] <keplr> More than we could ever use
[10:50:31] <keplr> Can't eat them anymore
[11:01:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 7 Million Dropbox Logins Leaked by 3rd Party - http://sylnt.us - friends-like-these
[11:02:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ooof, wish we hadn't run that story. dropbox is flat denying it.
[11:03:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway off to fish
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[11:53:54] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:53:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 952
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[13:07:52] <paulej72> hello all
[13:07:54] <ciri> hello, whats up paulej72
[13:08:03] <Bytram> paulej72: hiya!
[13:08:14] <juggs> hi paulej72 - doing ok?
[13:08:16] <ciri> hello juggs
[13:08:29] <paulej72> sure doing fine. how about you
[13:08:57] <juggs> all good with me thanks
[13:09:40] * Bytram is reading: http://www.gigwise.com
[13:09:54] <Bytram> which was referenced in an upcoming story
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[13:26:47] <Bytram> TK: welcome back
[13:26:57] <TK> heyheyhey
[13:27:10] <TK> Palemoon insisted on updating
[13:27:14] <Bytram> green giant? or... fat albert?
[13:27:15] <Bytram> =)
[13:27:44] <TK> Uh, let's go with the second one
[13:28:04] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:28:19] <Bytram> how's things?
[13:28:46] <TK> So so, nothing special
[13:28:51] <TK> ~weather ORD
[13:28:52] <exec> Weather for Chicago, IL - currrently 51°F / 11°C, light drizzle, wind SE at 4 mph, humidity 95% - Wednesday chance of showers (52°F-61°F / 11°C-16°C), Thursday partly cloudy (52°F-63°F / 11°C-17°C), Friday partly cloudy (46°F-64°F / 8°C-18°C), Saturday cloudy (41°F-57°F / 5°C-14°C) - source: Google
[13:29:03] <TK> plus there's that
[13:29:17] <Bytram> not so nice.
[13:29:24] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[13:29:25] <exec> Weather for Boston, MA - currrently 69°F / 21°C, scattered clouds, wind W at 1 mph, humidity 88% - Wednesday partly cloudy (64°F-75°F / 18°C-24°C), Thursday chance of storm (63°F-73°F / 17°C-23°C), Friday chance of showers (55°F-70°F / 13°C-21°C), Saturday chance of rain (48°F-64°F / 9°C-18°C) - source: Google
[13:29:43] <Bytram> a little warmer over this-a-way
[13:30:00] <TK> Sounds tolerable
[13:30:09] <Bytram> sure is... it'
[13:30:22] <Bytram> it's about 15-20 degrees above normal for this time of the year
[13:31:27] <Bytram> time to check on laundry... back in a bit
[13:41:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chairman of House Intelligence Committee Wants More Cyber-Warfare - http://sylnt.us - mightier-than-the-sword
[13:41:22] <Bytram> back
[13:41:37] <juggs> o/
[13:41:53] <Bytram> and front and the rest of me, too. =)
[13:41:54] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[13:41:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 953
[13:42:07] <Bytram> coffee++ darn tootin'
[13:42:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 954
[13:42:26] <Blackmoore> and back at the life sucking job.
[13:42:47] <Blackmoore> even the coffee isnt good here.
[13:43:23] * Bytram just got a notice that I could upgrade my FF 24.8.1esr to ff 31(?)
[13:43:37] * Bytram goes to check the ftp dir
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[13:46:49] <Bytram> hmmm, new latest ESR for FF is: 31.2.0esr
[13:47:03] <Bytram> prolly means I'd get to play with the new (and reviled) UI
[13:47:43] <Bytram> TK: what version of palemoon are you running with?
[13:51:02] <Bytram> TK: nvm, pm 25.0 drops support for win/XP
[13:51:14] <Bytram> and I already have 24.6.2
[13:52:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> there's a PaleMoon 24.7.something
[13:52:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'd tell you what the "something" is but I just upgraded to 25.0
[13:52:56] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: thanks for that, I'm now looking at the Archived Versions page: http://www.palemoon.org
[13:52:56] <NetCraft> ^ 03Archived versions
[13:54:21] <Bytram> that's a strange url: ftp://archive:get@ftp.palemoon.org
[13:55:35] <Bytram> learn something new everyday; it worked. looks like: v24.7.2
[13:58:02] <chromas> That's user:password@host
[14:00:15] <Bytram> thanks. was actually somethind I'd read about inan RFC or URIs but had never seen "in the wild" before.
[14:00:35] <Bytram> thanks. was actually something I'd read about in an RFC on URIs but had never seen "in the wild" before.
[14:00:43] * Bytram needs to get some new fingers!
[14:03:36] <chromas> finger_steaks++ # for your health
[14:03:36] <Bender> karma - finger_steaks: 1
[14:04:28] <Bytram> lol!
[14:06:05] <Bytram> finger-misteaks--
[14:07:22] <Bytram> (finger-misteaks)--
[14:07:22] <Bender> karma - (finger-misteaks): -1
[14:10:46] * chromas gasps
[14:11:24] <chromas> Didn't make poodle its own story? We need to stretch these things out
[14:12:01] <chromas> Three or four stories at least ;)
[14:12:47] <Bytram> chromas: feel free to submit it! =)
[14:13:34] <chromas> https://access.redhat.com
[14:13:35] <NetCraft> ^ 03POODLE: SSLv3.0 vulnerability (CVE-2014-3566) - Red Hat Customer Portal
[14:13:55] <chromas> Whew, that was a lot of work :)
[14:15:33] <Bytram> chromas: I think your aim may be off? Don't see it in the submission queue: http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:33] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[14:15:38] <Bytram> =)
[14:15:43] <juggs> I think we already ran one when the first news broke of it - before the details were actually released
[14:15:54] <Bytram> juggs: exactly!
[14:16:16] <Bytram> juggs: btw, memory fails me, but are you the maintainer of #rss-bot?
[14:16:20] <chromas> Yeah but now it's got an acronym
[14:16:23] <paulej72> that story should be updated and bumped
[14:16:31] <Bytram> which story?
[14:16:44] <paulej72> POODLE
[14:16:47] <chromas> Still needs a logo to be cool
[14:17:00] <juggs> Bytram - yep rss-bot is mine
[14:17:05] <Bytram> I already updated the second story which referenced it: http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:05] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN article 03 7 Million Dropbox Logins Leaked by 3rd Party 04(8 comments)
[14:17:26] <juggs> well it's an SN thing now really but I'm maintainer :D
[14:17:39] <Bytram> juggs: I replied to the URL in the bot's title with a suggestion to shorten the name of a feed.
[14:17:56] * chromas puts juggs on staff
[14:17:56] <Bytram> have another one, as well, "[ScienceDaily]" would be sufficient
[14:18:06] <juggs> Bytram, okies
[14:18:16] <Bytram> juggs++ Welcome aboard, matey!
[14:18:16] <Bender> karma - juggs: 30
[14:18:34] <juggs> ;0 ty
[14:18:48] <Bytram> juggs: muchos gracias, mein Herr!
[14:18:51] <Bytram> =)
[14:19:30] <Bytram> hmmm. Danke Schoen, kimosabi
[14:19:34] <Bytram> nope.
[14:19:36] <Bytram> hmmm
[14:20:20] <Bytram> previet, amigo!
[14:20:30] * Bytram doesn't know how to spell in Russian
[14:21:56] <juggs> ha - Bytram the translation engine :D
[14:22:05] <Bytram> lol!
[14:22:19] <Bytram> actually, where I work we have quite an international community.
[14:22:45] <Azrael> where I work has international in the name ;)
[14:22:49] <Bytram> I've tried to learn how to say: hello, thank-you, you're welcome, and goodbye in each language I encounter
[14:23:15] <Bytram> Azrael: I've Been Moved?
[14:23:53] <paulej72> Azrael: International Harvester
[14:25:11] <Bytram> so far, I've got about 6 languages that I can readily recall; and about another 4-5 that, when reminded, can repeat pretty well.
[14:25:42] <Bytram> english phonemes are insufficient for several other languages
[14:26:49] <Bytram> well! how about that? look what *just* appeared in the story submission queue:
[14:26:49] <Bytram> http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:50] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN Submission by Hugh Pickens http://respectponcacity.com 03How English Beat German as the Language Of Science
[14:30:11] <Bytram> well, time for me to get going about my day.
[14:30:18] <Bytram> have fun, everyone!
[14:30:26] <juggs> o/
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[14:42:15] <chromas> Peterbilt++
[14:42:15] <Bender> karma - peterbilt: 1
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[14:52:36] <Blackmoore> rum++
[14:52:36] <Bender> karma - rum: 21
[15:01:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> wodka++
[15:01:21] <Bender> karma - wodka: 1
[15:10:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Developer Bootcamps - Be a Programmer in Two Months! - http://sylnt.us - considered-harmful
[15:36:26] <Tachyon> http://www.youtube.com
[15:36:26] <NetCraft> ^ 038th grade atheist asks about God's omniscience (debate excerpt) - YouTube
[15:36:26] <Tachyon> :D
[15:37:18] <Tachyon> without the time
[16:22:38] <Leebert> Woo hoo! Time for a team meeting!
[16:22:50] <Leebert> I hope they have PowerPoint!
[16:25:00] <juggs> can't have a team meeting without death by PowerPoint!!
[16:28:56] <Blackmoore> I was thnking that office workplaces should offer a choice between meetings and firing squad.
[16:29:42] <Blackmoore> kinda let the population decide if another worthless meeting was worth the waste of time
[16:37:47] <Leebert> It seems that we're changing the way we document our charge codes.
[16:41:08] <Leebert> On the upside, $boss just said "bullshit".
[17:42:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Canada to Bypass Keystone with Oil Pipeline to the Atlantic - http://sylnt.us - where-you-eat
[20:22:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Minimum Alcohol Pricing vs Ban on Below Cost Sales - http://sylnt.us - cheap-booze
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[20:44:23] <crutchy> coffee++
[20:44:24] <Bender> karma - coffee: 955
[20:50:39] <ar> coffee--
[20:50:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 954
[20:50:45] <ar> coffee--
[20:50:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 953
[20:50:46] <ar> coffee--
[20:50:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 952
[20:50:47] <ar> coffee--
[20:50:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 951
[20:50:48] <ar> coffee--
[20:50:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 950
[20:50:51] <ar> tea++
[20:50:51] <Bender> karma - tea: 79
[20:50:55] <ar> tea++
[20:50:55] <Bender> karma - tea: 80
[20:50:56] <ar> :)
[20:55:05] <crutchy> 3++
[20:55:05] <Bender> karma - 3: 1
[20:55:10] <crutchy> heh
[20:55:20] <crutchy> didn't think that would work
[20:55:29] <ar> hm
[20:55:33] <ar> -++
[20:55:43] <ar> *++
[21:02:42] <juggs> 3+++
[21:02:58] <juggs> 3--
[21:02:58] <Bender> karma - 3: 0
[21:03:04] <juggs> 0--
[21:03:04] <Bender> karma - 0: -1
[21:05:53] <ar> —--
[21:05:56] <ar> hm
[21:19:07] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[21:19:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 951
[21:19:08] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[21:19:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 952
[21:19:10] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[21:19:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 953
[21:19:11] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[21:19:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 954
[21:19:13] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[21:19:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 955
[21:19:24] <Blackmoore> :P
[21:19:42] <Blackmoore> 2--
[21:19:42] <Bender> karma - 2: -1
[21:19:48] <Blackmoore> perfect.
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[21:56:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> you lot and your karma wars
[22:00:07] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: s/a(r)/ho\1e/
[22:00:07] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <TheMightyBuzzard> you lot and your khorema wars
[22:00:15] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: s/a(r)/ho\1e/2
[22:00:15] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <TheMightyBuzzard> you lot and your karma whores
[22:00:48] <chromas> I was actually looking at the wrong word, too
[22:01:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Much-Delayed War on Procrastination - http://sylnt.us - getting-aroun
[22:03:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[22:03:43] <juggs> it can get a little silly
[22:04:02] <juggs> successful foosh wrangling tmb?
[22:04:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> caught plenty of bait. nothin else was biting for anyone out there though.
[22:05:59] <juggs> can't win them all
[22:06:33] <chromas> the fooshes—they don't take regexes?
[22:07:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> they don't even take smaller fooshes some days
[22:10:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> was considering sticking a dollar on the hook with my bait
[22:11:04] <chromas> They probably only take bitcoins
[22:11:10] <chromas> or soylent subscriptions
[22:13:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha! i figured out to sneak a comment into a template without having it come out as a comment in the rendered html
[22:37:53] <Leebert> Hrm. I don't think "Overrated" should affect karma.
[22:38:13] <Leebert> Not that I really care all that much, but it ain't MY fault that a moderator upmodded something they (ostensibly) shouldn't have.
[22:39:15] <Blackmoore> http://np.reddit.com
[22:39:43] <Leebert> Reddit?! If I were a hipster I wouldn't be on soylent, man.
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[22:40:17] <blackmoore|afk> :P hey i cant just write up everything as a noir.
[22:42:05] <juggs> Leebert, but if the 1st moderator did actually +1 your karma when they "shouldn't have", then it is logical that a subsequent Overrated deducts that karma point. I think.... I am tired though so may be way off track :D
[22:42:43] <Leebert> Fair, except my karma was already max and now it's 49.
[22:42:54] <Leebert> So I got jack from the upmod, but penalized for the overrated.
[22:42:58] <Leebert> It's a travesty, man.
[22:43:08] <Leebert> A social injustice.
[22:43:10] <juggs> Ahh - that is somewhat harsh :D
[22:43:29] <Leebert> But you make a fair point.
[22:43:32] <juggs> Bug Report it!! I'm sure TMB will be right on it :D
[22:43:39] <Leebert> And I doubt it's worth the extra "if" statements.
[22:43:43] * juggs runs and hides
[22:44:30] <juggs> I'm surprised it's not been called out before now
[22:45:11] <juggs> Keep patching! http://www.theregister.co.uk
[22:45:12] <NetCraft> ^ 03Admins! Never mind POODLE, there're NEW OpenSSL bugs to splat • The Register
[22:47:08] <Leebert> Erm.
[22:47:28] <Leebert> I care more about MITM plaintext recovery than I do availability in the vast majority of cases.
[22:47:56] <juggs> Absolutely
[22:47:59] <Leebert> I suppose if you're using OpenSSL for some life-critical application this could be a problem. But then, you could also be stupid.
[22:49:20] <juggs> Usual shouty headline from El Reg anyway - they were already patched today.
[22:50:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> it hits me pretty regularly too. i always stay at max except ~during~ flame wars.
[22:50:20] <Leebert> I try to be nice and not get into flamewars.
[22:50:30] <Leebert> But holy cow there are some socially broken people on soylent.
[22:50:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> <--- one of them likely
[22:50:54] <Leebert> I don't THINK we've argued.
[22:51:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> or were you talking more along the lines of ethanol-fueled?
[22:51:07] <Leebert> I like the guy who called me "Mr. Libertarian"
[22:51:59] <Leebert> I was thinking of this thread: http://soylentnews.org
[22:52:00] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN comment by fadrian (3194)
[22:53:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> never actually noticed them guys before
[22:53:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> then again it's hard to make time to actually read the site when you've got your hands in its guts so often.
[22:53:53] <Leebert> That's a pleasant mental image.
[22:54:28] <juggs> well someone had to go bring up socialised healthcare in a comment forum populated by (I guess) 90+% USA peeps - that's always going to kick off a pointless shitfest :D
[22:55:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> a good flame war is good for the site once in a while anyway. gets more folks participating.
[22:55:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> mod wars not so much though
[22:55:55] <Leebert> Well, the problem wasn't that he brought it up. I think it's interesting. But he was just so... angry.
[22:55:58] <juggs> Now if you could mix gun control and socialised healthcare in the same comment - the thread would either spontaneously combust or just never ever end. :D :D
[22:56:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i know i'd certainly have a few things to say on the topics
[22:57:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... a daily bullshit story that's not really a story so much as a place for random comments...
[22:58:01] <juggs> I like spectating - those topics make no odds to me not being my country.
[22:58:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> au contraire, i just read a gun control story from the UK.
[22:59:04] <Leebert> So, if I shot myself in the foot with an AR-15 and complained about the service I got in the ER...?
[22:59:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> appears legal firearms holders can now expect a visit at home from the bobbys whenever they feel like it.
[23:00:37] <Leebert> Hrm.
[23:00:50] <Leebert> That would definitely not fly here.
[23:01:09] <Leebert> Well. Maybe in Portland.
[23:01:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> you kidding? it already flies here. waco.
[23:01:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ruby ridge.
[23:02:12] <mythterj> Hardly the same thing.
[23:02:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yeah, home visits to inspect that your firearms are properly secured like the story not so much.
[23:02:56] <Leebert> Erm.
[23:03:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> will see if i can find it
[23:03:12] <Leebert> Are you saying that Waco and Ruby Ridge were examples of such a thing working successfully? :)
[23:03:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, working about as well as anything involving the government works.
[23:03:56] <Leebert> Hey, I resemble that remark!
[23:04:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> successfully would be so novel and flabbergasting that it would make the headlines for months.
[23:05:37] <Leebert> Heh. you know, there really are quite a few success stories in the US federal government.
[23:05:53] <Leebert> It ain't all roses and ponies, but it's not all slobbering idiots, either.
[23:05:56] <juggs> We can't have handguns under any circumstances. Rifles and shotguns have to be licensed and kept in gun safes. And yeh, the local plod armoury chappy will come and inspect ~shrug~
[23:06:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.shootinguk.co.uk
[23:06:51] <Leebert> yeah, but in the US, they'd send SWAT to "inspect" your guns. After the flash bang. For everyone's safety, of course.
[23:07:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[23:09:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> we really need to stop suing and start imprisoning for violations of constitutional rights. lawsuits quite obviously do not work.
[23:09:18] <juggs> that's new - I was aware they did inspection when applying and (possibly) renewing license - just showing up unannounced is something new. Probably hoping to catch people out to have a reason to de-license them. But for brit police "unannounced" in this respect will be a knock on the door rather than the door flying off its hinges and a bunch of masked thugs bursting in.
[23:09:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, much more polite about it
[23:11:02] <juggs> not so much when they have reason to believe drugs or illegal firearms / explosives are in the premises - uk police will go full on swat in those situations. "no knock warrant"
[23:12:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably still manage to be more polite than our guys about it.
[23:12:58] <juggs> We do have armed response units all over the country and there's a creeping arming of cops on the street, particularly in London - to keep us safe of course.
[23:13:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> dust the boot print off the door after and such.
[23:14:58] <juggs> oh yeh for sure - I've not heard of anyone being "accidentally" shot to death even during the more intense swattings here. So far they seem a little more restrained in the use of the trigger finger.
[23:16:32] <juggs> Run around in a town centre with a gun and refuse to give it up, it's going to end the same way here as there. tap tap - game over. I'm fine with that.
[23:17:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually, lot of states over here you can do just that as long as it stays holstered and you went and got your permit for it.
[23:18:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> funny thing, crime always goes down whenever open/concealed carry is instituted.
[23:19:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> brandishing one about like a loon though, yeah, yer gonna get arrested to death
[23:20:28] <juggs> I more meant running around with it in your hand acting like a dick. Probably here if you had a holstered weapon an armed response would arrive and as long as you didn't try and draw the weapon you'd get detained without a shot being fired.
[23:22:12] <juggs> haha - I dread to think what would happen here if all the firearm legislation was repealed tomorrow. A flood of firearms into the hands of those who've never used them, shooting each other up every time they get angry, it'd be carnage. Reduce the population somewhat mind :D
[23:23:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know what i wonder, i wonder what it would look like a few months in after all the loons had darwin'd themselves out of the gene pool.
[23:23:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> what would a more polite UK look like?
[23:24:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause people get really polite when they have no idea if running their mouth might get them shot and brits are already quite polite.
[23:24:05] <juggs> parts of most cities would look like detroit (as I imagine it)
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[23:25:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, actually, that's what happens when you institute gun control in the US. it's one of the more restrictive areas.
[23:25:51] <Dopefish> Oooh I just arrived in this conversation just in time
[23:25:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> arizona, texas, oklahoma, such like that are where all the legally held guns go.
[23:26:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup Dopefish
[23:26:15] <Dopefish> Not much man
[23:26:22] <juggs> the brits you may have encountered may have been. However there is a significant population of very dissatisfied people in some areas - where currently we have mostly knife crimes. Those areas would rapidly become ghettoised as they would become un-policable,
[23:26:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, ditto
[23:26:51] <Dopefish> Are you a proponent for gun control juggs?
[23:27:16] <juggs> I have no view on it as regards the USA
[23:27:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, could be. could be the honest citizens who just want to be left alone get armed and shoot the ones being bastards. you just never know.
[23:27:20] <Dopefish> Kk
[23:27:26] <Dopefish> Lol
[23:28:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> people are a funny lot like that
[23:28:48] <juggs> Dopefish, I wasn't dodging the question, just I don't know enough about the US situation to pass sane comment on it - I'd just be bringing my UK biases along.
[23:29:19] <Dopefish> No I actually respect you for not making assumptions or speaking for a country you are not native to
[23:29:36] <Dopefish> I actually appreciate that, regardless of your views local to you
[23:29:56] <Dopefish> You're cool dude
[23:32:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> with a humorous name
[23:38:27] <juggs> I grew up with handguns and rifles - not in my family, but plenty of friends families had them and I used to go plinking targets with them - which was fun. So I learnt guns aren't scary things, just tools. I don't think that mindset is typical in the UK. Particularly in the under 40s who would have grown up in the the post handgun ban, rigorously license everything times - most have never seen a firearm except maybe strapped to a police dude at an
[23:38:32] <juggs> airport, let alone handled one.
[23:39:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, they really are quite a bit of fun if you're warding off attacking hordes of soda cans and such.
[23:40:46] <juggs> very few people have the space to be able to do that here. Gotta remember, it's an over-populated rocky outcrop not a sprawling continent.
[23:42:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> true true. you lot should annex france again for real estate purposes. been a long time since you tried.
[23:43:53] <juggs> The Frenchies would not be an easy push over these days. For us at least. lol - we have a German royal family anyway, so it's all a bit silly :D
[23:44:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> you kidding? they probably have a four hour work day law for their soldiers.
[23:46:08] -!- SpallsHurgenson [SpallsHurgenson!~SpallsHur@giox-30-341-832-84.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #Soylent
[23:48:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, all of this chatter i'm doing is because i don't feel like looking into why rss/atom are overencoding things.
[23:49:16] <SpallsHurgenson> well, this is the age of procrastination
[23:49:45] <juggs> I like their Dassault Rafale fighter
[23:50:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> "The Much-Delayed War on Procrastination"....I'll read that later. Back to imgur.com!
[23:50:41] * TheMightyBuzzard nods to AndyTheAbsurd
[23:50:51] <Leebert> Like most things that are highly controversial, gun control isn't a simple thing.
[23:51:06] <Leebert> For example, there are already roughly as many guns as people in the US.
[23:51:18] <Leebert> There will be millions for a LONG time.
[23:51:21] <juggs> They went their own way on that, while the rest of us tossed about on the eurofighter.
[23:51:36] <SpallsHurgenson> the rafale looks like the love-child of an F16 and a Mirage
[23:51:58] <juggs> at least it's in service :D
[23:53:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> gun control isn't really controversial though. is in the bloody constitution that you can't monkey with them and with an astounding number of quotes from the writers saying they meant precisely that private citizens should be able to own and carry guns.
[23:53:45] <SpallsHurgenson> now my brain is stuck imaging an F-16 and Mirage in coitus
[23:54:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> you just have a vocal minority on the left who think disarming yourself is a good way to be protected.
[23:54:53] <juggs> LOL - that sounds so ridiculous when you put it like that.
[23:54:53] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
[23:55:03] * juggs shots ciri to death
[23:55:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't it just though?
[23:56:24] * SpallsHurgenson passes juggs larger caliber ordinance
[23:56:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> what i really lurve is the exact same people who say "only the police should have guns" also say the police are corrupt and abuse their power.
[23:56:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> it makes me laugh, like this, Ha!
[23:57:18] <juggs> power corrupts
[23:57:33] <SpallsHurgenson> or attracts the corruptible
[23:58:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's an argument to be made that anyone seeking power for power's sake is already corrupt.
[23:59:05] <Leebert> To be honest, I don't personally have an issue with reasonable restrictions on firearms.
[23:59:12] <Leebert> The problem is that it's not supported in the constitution.
[23:59:29] <Leebert> By my reading, it says I can own a nuclear weapon.
[23:59:31] <Leebert> And that's insane.
[23:59:51] <Leebert> But you don't fix that by ignoring it, you fix it by using the built-in patching mechanism for the constitution.
[23:59:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> a bit absurd, yes