#Soylent | Logs for 2014-10-14
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[00:00:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Price Gap between More and Less Healthy Foods Grows - http://sylnt.us - dollar-menu
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[00:59:10] <SpallsHurgenson> hmm, the Internet is not entertaining tonight. I may have to turn it all off.
[01:04:41] <juggs> Konomi ping
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[01:05:35] <Konomi> juggs: mew?
[01:06:03] <juggs> Konomi, /j #help :P
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[01:40:04] <juggs> !todo
[01:40:05] <Bender> todo for juggs: 1) rss-bot wiki page 2) swag about blurb 3) double-check all items have "Show Customize" unchecked 4) suggest SN weekend edition 5) flood detection, web client check
[01:40:18] <juggs> !done 5
[01:40:18] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[01:40:32] <juggs> !done 2
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[01:40:42] <juggs> !done 2
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[01:40:47] <juggs> !todo
[01:40:47] <Bender> todo for juggs: 1) rss-bot wiki page 2) suggest SN weekend edition
[01:40:55] <juggs> !done 2
[01:40:55] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[01:45:19] <chromas> !todo robot-anti-flooding
[01:45:20] <Bender> todo item 4 added
[01:47:03] <juggs> is that specifically to stop robots from flooding?
[01:48:16] <SpallsHurgenson> might be for automated dike building :)
[01:49:13] <SpallsHurgenson> what with sea-levels rising, I can see how somebody might want that on their to-do list :)
[01:49:15] <chromas> Just need to not amplify ef flooding
[01:50:06] * chromas doesn't live at the coast at the moment and is okay with the sea rising ;)
[02:00:53] <juggs> Ahh - you mean a rate limit per user for NetCraft chromas?
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[02:05:03] <chromas> Yeah. Keep getting sidetracked though :)
[02:06:54] <SirFinkus> nachos++
[02:06:54] <Bender> karma - nachos: 2
[02:07:17] <chromas> ooh
[02:07:20] <chromas> nachos++
[02:07:20] <Bender> karma - nachos: 3
[02:10:05] <SirFinkus> I've got a batch cooking right now
[02:11:26] <SirFinkus> grilled chicken, refried beans, resturant-style tortilla chips, jalopenos, green onions, olives, cheddar, monteray jack, and cheddar jack
[02:11:30] <SirFinkus> I did this right
[02:11:51] <SirFinkus> err, last one is pepper jack
[02:11:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Better Solar Panel, Commercially in about Five Years - http://sylnt.us - power-of-the-Sun
[02:16:29] <juggs> coronary on a plate! Sounds great.... I'll take a cold beer with that
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[02:19:33] <SirFinkus> I don't think I've ever reached the point with nachos that they have too much stuff on them
[02:25:50] <swiss> there is, when you can't reach the chips
[02:30:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> at what point do nachos become a salad with chips in it?
[02:31:17] <SpallsHurgenson> when the chip-to-everything-else ration is 1:37. This was scientifically proven in the /Amberson Nacho Trials/ of 1978
[02:31:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent. so a pound of meat doesn't quite tip it even with other toppings.
[02:34:38] * SpallsHurgenson imagines 37 pounds of toppings for every pound of nachos...
[02:36:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> I generally use a pound of taco seasoned meat, then throw on the cheese and put some lettuce, tomatoes, black olives, sour cream, avocados, and peppers on after i nuke the cheese to molten yellow goodness
[02:36:43] <SpallsHurgenson> that's about 6 pounds of topping per nacho (if I did the math right)
[02:37:04] <SpallsHurgenson> (and assuming about 250 chips per pound)
[02:38:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's just nachos for me, mind you. only makes one plate even if it does mean tall nachos. anyone else can make their own.
[02:40:01] <SirFinkus> naw, you guy sjust don't know how to make nachos
[02:40:14] <SirFinkus> if it gets the the point where the chips are burried, you add another layer
[02:40:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd have to add more toppings then though. my microwave's only so tall.
[02:41:17] <SpallsHurgenson> see if the airport is selling any of their old radar equipment :)
[02:41:33] <SirFinkus> ahh, you're truly a rookie if you're using a microwave
[02:43:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i just got a proper ass:lazy ratio
[02:43:43] <SirFinkus> the oven isn't even more work
[02:44:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> takes too long to heat up. i could already be enjoying nachoy goodness by the time it does.
[02:45:21] <SirFinkus> you don't get the crispy cheese shits on the sides though
[02:45:23] <SpallsHurgenson> my oven is more work
[02:45:30] <SirFinkus> which is half the experience
[02:45:36] <SpallsHurgenson> microwave procedure: 1) put food in microwave, 2) set time, 3) press start
[02:45:48] <SpallsHurgenson> stove procedure: 1) turn on gas; 2) walk away; 3) smell gas an hour later; 4) realize oven never ignited; 5) ignite stove with match; 6) apply salve to burns from explosion; 7) start cooking
[02:46:19] <SpallsHurgenson> twice as many steps! also, with the microwave I get to keep my eyebrows :)
[02:47:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, real men toast them with an acetylene torch.
[02:47:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> quicker than a microwave even
[02:48:12] <SpallsHurgenson> what's the cooking:eyebrow loss ratio
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[02:48:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> specially when the rest of the house catches on fire and adds to the heat
[02:49:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> must go play kitty wrangler now. cat ain't going to lock its self up for the night.
[02:50:14] <juggs> do you not find that the deeper buried nachos become like soggy cardboard before you get to them with such a stack?
[02:50:19] <SpallsHurgenson> cats detest closed doors. it doesn't matter what side they are on; the door needs to be open so they can go through
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[02:51:29] <juggs> I'm puzzled why a cat would need locking up for the night - I thought they generally went out a-hunting and a-shagging in the dark hours and slept all day. ~shrug~ I've never had a cat.
[02:53:12] <SpallsHurgenson> different cats have different periods of activity, especially in crowded suburbs (where multiple cats often "time-share" the same territory)
[02:53:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> male cat, likes to mark things if you leave him inside at night so he sleeps in the shop building.
[02:54:36] <SpallsHurgenson> but generally you lock 'em inside so they don't bug you at 3AM to let them in again :)
[02:54:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i shamelessly conditioned him to getting kitty treats in there every night so he leads the way instead of me having to chase him down and carry him.
[02:55:55] <SirFinkus> naw juggs, they won't get soggy if you layer them properly
[03:01:49] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, RFID collar triggered catflap in the door - leave em too it.
[03:02:52] <juggs> ooh the bbc had a thing about neighbourhood cats recently that studied how far the roamed and how they each adopted different patches etc. Was interesting.
[03:03:42] <juggs> They put gps trackers on them and plotted them
[03:03:55] <juggs> I'd dig the links out if I wasn;t so lazy
[03:06:22] <juggs> SirFinkus, I just avoid it altogether - layers of carbs and processed cheese... tasty for sure, but there be dragons. I smoke and drink beer, I don't need to be adding such things to my early grave list :D
[03:06:54] <SirFinkus> yeah, it's a treat
[03:06:59] <SirFinkus> but damn they're good
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[03:12:35] <juggs> I know they are - but my expanding middle and family history on the male side of early heart failure steers me away.
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[03:20:16] * Konomi hates getting jabbed
[03:23:26] <juggs> eek - did you need a rabies shot?
[03:28:48] <Konomi> I live in australia there is no such thing here ;p
[03:33:34] <juggs> Wouldn't know, I live on a rainy hell island with too many people. Apparently Aus is full of venomous things and everyone dies 12 times a year and NZ is full of sheep and is always cloudy. I just may have succumbed to ~little englander syndrome~. ~sigh~
[03:38:30] <Konomi> prefer dangerous beasties to dangerous dieseases and viruses ;p
[03:42:32] <juggs> better close your borders then - ebolarissm is coming to get ya... once it gets past the line of paedoterrorists flocking to your shores n rubber boats
[03:49:06] <SpallsHurgenson> or worse, NEW ZEALANDERS!
[03:51:56] <silverly> in australia if the wildlife doesnt kill you, the weather might
[04:04:21] <SpallsHurgenson> and if not the weather, the antics of the politicians will make you want to top yourself
[04:04:34] <SpallsHurgenson> although that one is true of pretty much any country :)
[04:11:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Greatest Keyboard Ever Made - http://sylnt.us - clickity-click
[04:20:38] <silverly> australia is partically bad right now for the politics
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[04:53:26] * juggs runs around spraying bleach
[04:57:57] <juggs> phew... we nearly got infected by ebolapaedoterrorists there.. be sure to leave some shekels in the donation tray so we can continue the charade.
[04:58:33] * juggs goes to pass out
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[06:22:06] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:22:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 948
[06:25:14] <chromas> e++
[06:25:14] <Bender> karma - e: 1
[06:25:25] * chromas settles into enlightenment
[06:26:06] <Konomi> caffeine++
[06:26:06] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 25
[06:26:12] <Konomi> brought to you by the letter e
[06:27:17] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[06:27:17] <Bender> karma - fedora: 31
[06:27:20] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:27:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 947
[06:27:21] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:27:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 946
[06:27:21] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:27:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 945
[06:27:21] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:27:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 944
[06:27:22] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:27:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 943
[06:27:22] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:27:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 942
[06:27:23] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:27:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 941
[06:27:27] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:27:27] <Bender> karma - coffee: 940
[06:27:29] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:27:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 939
[06:27:52] <JamesNZ> Gotta keep it manageable ;)
[06:28:02] <chromas> cat_reeeer.ogg
[06:28:11] <chromas> ++
[06:28:19] <Konomi> needs to be same line ;p
[06:29:10] <chromas> should add caffeine/coffee patrol to all the bots in here
[06:29:21] <SirFinkus> hehe, the first computer I built was a socket 939
[06:29:46] <SirFinkus> AMD_3500+++
[06:29:52] <SirFinkus> aww
[06:30:11] <chromas> unexpected token
[06:30:51] <SirFinkus> AMD_3500＋++
[06:31:18] <JamesNZ> I killed Bender ;-;
[06:31:37] <chromas> 286++
[06:31:37] <Bender> karma - 286: 1
[06:31:46] <SirFinkus> AMD_3500_plus++
[06:31:46] <Bender> karma - amd_3500_plus: 1
[06:31:56] <chromas> [AMD_3500+]++
[06:31:56] <Bender> karma - [amd_3500+]: 1
[06:32:45] <Konomi> heh
[06:33:09] <SirFinkus> remember single core cpus?
[06:33:20] <SirFinkus> encode a video and your entire computer grinds to a halt
[06:37:58] <Konomi> I do
[06:38:02] <Konomi> and I don't want to recall it
[06:38:02] <Konomi> ;p
[06:42:51] <crutchy> single_core_cpus++
[06:42:51] <Bender> karma - single_core_cpus: 1
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[06:50:53] <SirFinkus> "naw dude dual core isn't worth it, you only get like 10 more fps in HL2"
[06:51:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - An Apple a Day could Keep Obesity Away - http://sylnt.us - power-of-rhyming
[06:53:03] <ar> single_core_cpus--
[06:53:03] <Bender> karma - single_core_cpus: 0
[06:53:11] <ar> coffee--
[06:53:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 938
[06:53:16] <ar> tea++
[06:53:16] <Bender> karma - tea: 78
[06:53:17] <chromas> "dual athlon-mps are useless, dumbass"
[06:53:26] <swiss> the drugs are getting high
[06:53:31] <swiss> nearly 4 digits
[06:53:36] <swiss> coffee--
[06:53:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 937
[06:53:37] <swiss> coffee--
[06:53:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 936
[06:53:49] <ar> the first computer i built was socket A
[06:53:52] <SirFinkus> beer++
[06:53:52] <Bender> karma - beer: 14
[06:54:08] <chromas> speaking of drugs
[06:54:12] <chromas> doughnuts++
[06:54:12] <Bender> karma - doughnuts: 4
[06:54:15] <ar> i had athlon 1.2GHz back then
[06:54:28] <ar> and a whopping 256M of ram
[06:54:36] <SirFinkus> oh boy
[06:54:58] <chromas> not enough ram for those megahertz
[06:55:27] <SirFinkus> I was excited when I got an entire GB
[06:55:32] <ar> it was untrivial to get more ram back in 2000 (or was it 2001?)
[06:56:04] <chromas> yeah but your cpu cried a lot
[06:56:12] <ar> meh
[06:56:17] <SirFinkus> the really cool kids had 2GB so they could load BF2 faster
[06:56:24] <chromas> at least you weren't running nortin
[06:56:37] <keplr> 75mhz Pentium was my first PC, a long time ago in a galaxy far far away
[06:57:14] <SirFinkus> First computer I actually used was either a Macintosh SE or an IBM PS/2
[06:57:34] <ar> my first pc was 286 or 386 back in 1992. but i was 5years old back then
[06:58:01] <keplr> You're about my age then
[06:59:41] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[06:59:41] <Bender> karma - fedora: 32
[07:00:20] <keplr> My dad got mad when I ruined our second computer by trying to install Linux.
[07:00:25] <keplr> It was a lot harder back then.
[07:00:43] <keplr> *temporarily ruined. I was able to reinstall Windows
[07:00:54] <keplr> And eventually Linux successfuly!
[07:25:47] <keplr> I should break 1,000,000 SETI@home credits this week
[07:34:18] <Konomi> my boinc score is
[07:34:20] <Konomi> Total Run Time (y:d:h:m:s) (Rank) 2:301:15:52:21 (#47,928)
[07:36:03] <Konomi> multicore++
[07:36:03] <Bender> karma - multicore: 1
[07:38:43] <keplr> Running SETI@home?
[07:38:47] <keplr> Or another project?
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[08:14:04] <crutchy> coffee++
[08:14:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 937
[08:16:54] <keplr> What is this karma system?
[08:19:30] <chromas> for entertainment purposes only
[08:20:41] <crutchy> its a starter of conversations about karma :p
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[09:31:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Netscape Navigator, Twenty Years Later - http://sylnt.us - MAX-FORWARDS
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[09:46:24] <crutchy> coffee++
[09:46:25] <Bender> karma - coffee: 938
[10:08:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:08:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 939
[10:18:16] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: running e now. Stable so far; seems like it just doesn't like being run as a second virtual terminal
[10:18:29] <chromas> Now I guess I'll have to go find gtk versions of things
[10:19:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> except k3b. don't bother finding that.
[10:19:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothing on the gtk side compares
[10:19:56] <chromas> Optical drives don't seem to work with my puter
[10:20:06] <chromas> maybe they're all just broken
[10:20:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> quite possible. i tend to wear mine out.
[10:20:51] <chromas> I wonder if there are any mail clients with views
[10:21:03] <chromas> (gui ones)
[10:21:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> beats me, most folks just use thunderbird seems like
[10:22:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't bother and just use gmail web interface and a little perl script i wrote for notifications.
[10:22:12] <chromas> Older versions of Opera's mail client had views, which kind of worked like rules do, except it controlled which mails show up instead of moving them around
[10:22:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[10:22:25] <chromas> so you could have the same mails appear in different views
[10:22:50] <chromas> perl++
[10:22:50] <Bender> karma - perl: 3
[10:22:58] <crutchy> wtf no new comments in past hour?
[10:23:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> perl++
[10:23:02] <Bender> karma - perl: 4
[10:23:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> well? get on it then. I just woke up and can't see clear enough to read comments yet.
[10:24:06] <chromas> systemd #gamergate gnome3 beta obama
[10:26:10] <crutchy> chromas, s/ta/at up/
[10:26:10] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> <chromas> systemd #gamergate gnome3 beat up obama
[10:27:03] <crutchy> oh SedBot9000 now yousa gunna be in trouble with the nsa
[10:27:53] <crutchy> and go to bot prison
[10:28:46] <SedBot9000> oh noes! I'm not even encrypted\!
[10:28:52] <chromas> Took long enough
[10:29:01] <chromas> apparently I can't have !" on the command line
[10:29:16] <chromas> -bash: !": event not found
[10:29:25] <chromas> bash--
[10:29:25] <Bender> karma - bash: 0
[10:29:35] <crutchy> oh thats 'banged' up
[10:30:33] <crutchy> boulderdash++
[10:30:33] <Bender> karma - boulderdash: 1
[10:30:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> well of course you can't have an unescaped ! on the command line
[10:31:41] <crutchy> duh because everyone knows shouting on the command line is offensive
[10:31:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's the history operator for bash
[10:32:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> forgot to type sudo on the last command? sudo !!
[10:32:33] <chromas> When I escaped it then it just sent it through like it wasn't escaped
[10:33:10] * crutchy has to use su
[10:33:20] <chromas> you can't sudo?
[10:33:22] <crutchy> no sudo here
[10:33:34] <chromas> sudo apt-get install sudo
[10:33:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> install it then. nothing wrong with sudo.
[10:34:28] <crutchy> its installed
[10:34:33] <crutchy> 'jared is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.'
[10:34:49] <crutchy> i'm reported\!
[10:35:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> yer in trouble now
[10:35:35] <chromas> oh yeah, arch is like that too
[10:35:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> visudo
[10:35:41] <chromas> ^
[10:35:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> add yerself
[10:35:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> gotta do it as root though
[10:38:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> just don't go giving yourself NOPASSWD permissions on world+dog. defeats the purpose of not running as root in the first place.
[10:39:17] <crutchy> got a couple of new qnap servers at work yesterday
[10:39:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> anything with nap in the name has to be awesome
[10:39:52] * crutchy does like naps
[10:40:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> and have you ever noticed kidnapping is completely not what the two words mean apart?
[10:41:18] <chromas> you don't put sleepy pills in their ice cream?
[10:41:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, ice cream's for me. they're lucky if i even give em the candy i promised.
[10:41:59] <crutchy> i think the main server might be this one: http://www.qnap.com
[10:42:00] <NetCraft> ^ 03QNAP Systems, Inc. - Network Attached Storage (NAS)
[10:42:33] <crutchy> or something similar
[10:44:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should get a couple of those for home. save having big boxes all over the place.
[10:45:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> though some of em could just as well be replaced with a raspberry pi.
[10:45:45] <crutchy> spent about au$12k on that and a smaller backup server (+rails etc)
[10:46:14] <crutchy> this one has redundant hot swappable power supplies apparently
[10:46:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> fun
[10:47:15] <crutchy> neat feature. though for the money it just about would wanna come with free blowjobs for all
[10:47:45] <crutchy> think the hdds were a big part of the cos
[10:47:50] <crutchy> *cost
[10:47:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be
[10:48:05] <crutchy> 30x2TB
[10:48:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that'd certainly do it. at least $3k right there.
[10:49:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> and that's bargain shopping price not buying matched drives from different batches price
[10:49:37] <crutchy> hmm might be 20x
[10:49:45] <crutchy> i think one has 8 bays
[10:49:53] <crutchy> cant remember
[10:50:32] <chromas> 8 michael bays. No wonder it's spendy
[10:51:29] <crutchy> its prolly gunna baysplode the office
[10:52:17] <crutchy> rails need a bit of twerking apparently (to save having to remove all the existing shit from the cabinet)
[10:53:03] <crutchy> standard 19" rack components doesn't mean exactly the same size apparently
[10:53:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp. never really does
[10:53:31] <chromas> maybe it's like tvs
[10:53:36] <chromas> '19" class'
[10:54:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> you should know never to judge a rack solely by its dimensions. that's sexist or racist or something.
[10:54:13] <crutchy> depends on whether the 19" device is circumsized
[10:55:00] <crutchy> yeah judging a rack is mostly a feel thing :p
[10:55:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean ya gotta get in there and ram a device up between, give that rack a thorough testing out.
[10:55:58] <crutchy> a 19" device at that
[10:56:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> perzactly
[10:56:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.bbc.co.uk
[10:56:40] <NetCraft> ^ 03BBC Radio 6 Music - The John Peel Lecture, Iggy Pop's BBC Music John Peel Lecture
[10:57:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'on free music in a capitalist society and it's iggy freakin pop
[10:59:00] <chromas> only two hours long
[10:59:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[10:59:33] <chromas> oh; thought it was a video
[10:59:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> starts out with tunes
[10:59:51] <chromas> cool; some coding background
[11:00:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> unfortunately, iplayer so no bloody downloading it
[11:00:35] <Azrael> you can download stuff that's on iplayer
[11:00:58] <chromas> downloadhelper and flashgot don't seem to think so
[11:01:11] <chromas> what do we need to do?
[11:01:33] <Azrael> what OS are you on?
[11:01:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> function space_heater() { HandBrakeCLI -i ~/Movies/Tank\ Girl\ \(1995\).\[DvDRip~DivX\;AC3\(5.1-EN\)\].\{tyux\}.mp4 --encoder x264 --x264-preset slow -q 20 -r 24 --x264-tune film -B 128 -R 48 -E faac -f mp4 -m -O -6 dpl2 -x threads=8 -s 1 -o /dev/null }
[11:01:44] <chromas> the good one
[11:01:45] <chromas> linux
[11:02:49] <chromas> ah; TheMightyBuzzard: get_iplayer-git in the aur
[11:03:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh?
[11:03:06] <Azrael> well I use a OSX bit of sfotware, but equiv for linux seems to be http://www.infradead.org
[11:03:07] <NetCraft> ^ 03get_iplayer lives!
[11:03:40] <chromas> (pulls in over nine thousand perl packages)
[11:03:56] * Azrael shrugs
[11:04:06] <chromas> it's what I get for not already having perl installed
[11:04:08] <Azrael> I know the OSX version works a treat
[11:04:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> for you maybe. were already installed for me
[11:05:25] <chromas> Azrael++
[11:05:25] <Bender> karma - azrael: 5
[11:06:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> Azrael, ++
[11:07:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> stupid autocomplete
[11:07:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> me--
[11:07:06] <Bender> karma - me: -1
[11:07:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> Azrael++
[11:07:11] <Bender> karma - azrael: 6
[11:08:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, if i listen to this this morning i'm not going to get any work done.
[11:08:32] <chromas> that's what saving's for
[11:08:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, brain, what work was i supposed to get done today?
[11:08:47] <Azrael> do I take it that it works?
[11:09:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar, had to figure out the command line but works a treat
[11:10:10] <Azrael> yay
[11:10:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, get_iplayer --type=flashhigh "http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04lcj6z" should save you having to figure it out
[11:10:36] <NetCraft> ^ 03BBC Radio 6 Music - The John Peel Lecture, Iggy Pop's BBC Music John Peel Lecture
[11:11:21] <Azrael> I think you can get a GUI from http://www.kde-apps.org
[11:11:25] <NetCraft> ^ 03Get iPlayer GUI Remixed KDE-Apps.org ( http://KDE-Apps.org )
[11:11:31] <chromas> I did --type=radio --raw
[11:11:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[11:12:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> Azrael, prolly can but consider the audience
[11:12:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> us != askeert of the command line
[11:12:35] <chromas> "Audience"?! OMGz, I'm a-leavin'!
[11:13:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can't leave till we get out of alpha and into beta
[11:14:21] <Azrael> hehe
[11:14:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh hey, my brain outsmarted me. i left the files i wanted to work on today open since yesterday mornin.
[11:44:36] <crutchy> that iggy pop thing was interesting
[11:44:40] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard++
[11:44:40] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 91
[11:45:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> debating on submitting it as a story but I don't wanna transcribe anything.
[11:46:02] <crutchy> ~submit <insert_hyperlink_here>
[11:46:12] <crutchy> ^ so wanna do that one day
[11:46:36] <crutchy> when i stop being a procrastinator
[11:46:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> never work.
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[11:47:10] <crutchy> maybe
[11:47:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> editors don't do the whole writeup for you off a link as a general rule.
[11:47:26] <crutchy> nah the submission wouldn't be just a link
[11:47:39] <crutchy> the script would do a bit of scrapage
[11:48:32] <crutchy> kinda like monopoly/netcraft type thing... just get the first couple of paragraphs maybe.
[11:48:58] <crutchy> might not make for an awesome submit still, but most of my submits aren't much better than thatg anyway
[11:49:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely be the wrong paragraphs for quoting
[11:49:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> seems like the good ones come about paragraph 3-4
[11:50:18] <crutchy> maybe, but i generally just post the first paragraph, which (for a good article anyway has some sort of summary)
[11:51:12] <crutchy> could maybe have an intermediate step, where the script pm's you the submission content and you reply 'yees' or 'submit' to confirm
[11:51:47] <crutchy> prolly won't ever happen anyway. i've got too many half baked scripts already
[11:54:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> when you're feelin scripty, finish baking one then start on new stuff.
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[11:55:26] <crutchy> been working on one to auto-post board meeting minutes to the wiki, but it might never get finished
[11:55:35] <crutchy> motivation is hard
[11:56:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> was for me for a long, long, long time. then came brain drugs.
[11:58:07] <crutchy> usually come home from work and i just crash. prolly not eating right or something, but meh
[12:02:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, my best coding hours are from when i wake up at 5 till about 10.
[12:03:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> generally after that i just quit sn coding for the day since it's so much harder.
[12:34:56] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:34:56] <Bender> karma - coffee: 940
[12:37:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:37:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 941
[12:38:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, you can keep your very own private karma scores via /msg
[12:40:03] <crutchy> does that mean we can do stealth coffee++?
[12:40:42] <crutchy> doh it starts fresh
[12:40:49] <crutchy> heh. fresh coffee++
[12:41:37] <crutchy> ~bot new dogfart
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[12:41:53] <crutchy> stupid bot
[12:41:54] <crutchy> ~bot new dogfart
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[12:45:14] <crutchy> ~bot say :dogfart PRIVMSG Bender :coffee++
[12:48:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it's your very own privately stored variable
[12:48:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~karma coffee
[12:48:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, whas the command for that?
[12:48:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> !karma coffee
[12:48:47] <Bender> karma of coffee is 941
[12:49:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, you could totally use bender as a remote increment-only data store
[12:49:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> or you could run through a few billion random strings ++ing them and exhaust his resources.
[12:50:39] <crutchy> maybe i could use it as a script looping variable :p
[12:52:23] <crutchy> why just increment a local int, when you can send a request over a socket connection to an irc server which sends back a reply which then has to be parsed to get the value of the variable :D
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[12:58:43] <crutchy> git_api++
[12:58:43] <Bender> karma - git_api: 1
[12:58:51] <crutchy> oops
[12:58:56] <crutchy> github_api++
[12:58:56] <Bender> karma - github_api: 1
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[13:02:52] <Bytram> g'morning everyone
[13:02:54] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:02:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 942
[13:03:10] <Bytram> poutine++
[13:03:10] <Bender> karma - poutine: -356
[13:03:12] <Bytram> lol
[13:03:56] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[13:03:57] <exec> Weather for Boston, MA - currrently 65°F / 18°C, overcast, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 89% - Tuesday partly cloudy (64°F-73°F / 18°C-23°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (63°F-77°F / 17°C-25°C), Thursday chance of storm (59°F-72°F / 15°C-22°C), Friday clear (55°F-70°F / 13°C-21°C) - source: Google
[13:05:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Bytram
[13:05:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[13:05:40] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK - currrently 46°F / 8°C, clear, wind W at 5 mph, humidity 87% - Tuesday clear (46°F-70°F / 8°C-21°C), Wednesday clear (48°F-73°F / 9°C-23°C), Thursday clear (52°F-86°F / 11°C-30°C), Friday partly cloudy (50°F-75°F / 10°C-24°C) - source: Google
[13:05:40] <Bytram> how's things?
[13:05:46] <Bytram> ~weather TheMightyBuzzard
[13:05:47] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK - currrently 46°F / 8°C, clear, wind W at 5 mph, humidity 87% - Tuesday clear (46°F-70°F / 8°C-21°C), Wednesday clear (48°F-73°F / 9°C-23°C), Thursday clear (52°F-86°F / 11°C-30°C), Friday partly cloudy (50°F-75°F / 10°C-24°C) - source: Google
[13:05:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'fookin chilly
[13:05:57] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:06:15] <Bytram> just wait a couple months and you'll wish it's this *warm*! =)
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[13:06:54] <Bytram> question for ya... can u see the story submission queue at: http://soylentnews.org
[13:06:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[13:07:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> got a new toy in. can now get domain tags like "link to google search" [google.com] in stories as well as comments.
[13:07:11] <Bytram> cosurgi: g'morning!
[13:07:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure
[13:07:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> everyone can see that
[13:07:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, cosurgi
[13:07:33] <Bytram> k
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[13:07:51] <Bytram> see that the story "Software Was Not The Cause Of Galileo SatNav Failu" says it's by "gewg_" ??
[13:07:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> no pending stories?
[13:08:25] <Bytram> umm, I see 16 in the queue.
[13:08:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[13:08:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> queued for publishing not subs
[13:08:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothing accepted but not yet published
[13:08:53] <Bytram> can you see "gewg_"'s submission?
[13:08:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes
[13:09:12] <Bytram> click on the link: http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:12] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN Submission by gewg_ 03Software Was Not The Cause Of Galileo SatNav Failure
[13:09:36] <crutchy> ~queue
[13:09:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay...
[13:09:41] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 16 - http://sylnt.us
[13:09:41] <Bytram> and it is no longer by "gewg_" but the byline says it's by "anonymous coward" ( and yes, it is in lowercase)
[13:09:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[13:09:55] <Bytram> yup.
[13:10:08] <Bytram> he got "bit" a coupla times already.
[13:10:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> that went out in pj's latest round of fixes i think.
[13:10:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> bit of flawed logic
[13:10:45] <Bytram> I had pointed out to paulej72 that we were again linking ACs to a "user page" and he fixed it...
[13:11:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya thas prolly what did it
[13:11:10] <Bytram> seems like we have something a little out of order in when/how we decide whom to give attribution.
[13:11:34] <paulej72> crap
[13:11:49] <Bytram> methinks we need to check, first, to see if they submitted a "name" (and addy) before deciding to call 'em an AC
[13:12:07] <Bytram> and, when we do, we should properly capitalize "Anonymous Coward".
[13:12:41] <Bytram> paulej72: sorry to start your day with that. I really appreciate how quickly you put in the fix!
[13:13:06] <Bytram> hopefully that is enough specificity to help make it easy to locate.
[13:13:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> on the up side, i got that IDN warning stuff done + editors see domain tags in stories on admin.pl + users can choose to see domain tags in stories everywhere
[13:13:31] <Bytram> !woop
[13:13:31] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[13:13:37] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[13:13:37] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 92
[13:14:00] <Bytram> speaking of UTF-8... I had a little fun with a story "dept" the other day...
[13:14:01] <Bytram> hold on
[13:14:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> not a mega-feature but should be handy for editors in case someone wants to be an asshat
[13:14:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya?
[13:14:34] <Bytram> take a look at this story: http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:35] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN article 03 Refinery Mandating Switch to Newer Railcars 04(17 comments)
[13:14:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> har!
[13:14:52] <Bytram> and, you will be pleased to learn, it came through fine in the daily story e-mail, too!
[13:15:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> outstandin
[13:15:02] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[13:15:02] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 93
[13:15:08] <Bytram> you betcha!
[13:15:42] <crutchy> did bender cope?
[13:15:53] <Bytram> I got the idea from seeing a coupla stories e-mailed to me from dev... thought, hmmmm. I wonder? and, voila!
[13:16:00] <Bytram> hrm. good question!
[13:16:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i needa check something real quick. might have put a minor bug in with the previous pull request
[13:16:38] <Bytram> crutchy: it was posted: on Monday October 13, @00:14 (Business)
[13:16:56] * Bytram needs to change batteries in his cordless mouse.
[13:16:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, nope, i fixed that
[13:17:04] <Bytram> brb
[13:17:04] <ciri> me too, smoke time! Bytram
[13:17:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yay me
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[13:18:26] <Bytram> lol
[13:18:35] <Bytram> I just remembered somehting from way back when
[13:18:40] <Bytram> early 90's
[13:18:43] <Bytram> had an open house
[13:19:09] <Bytram> parents brought family in to tour the facility (commerical software shop, mostly)
[13:19:45] <Bytram> late in the day one of the manager's went to one of our machines that he was using to put on a demo
[13:19:50] <Bytram> mouse wouldn't work.
[13:20:00] <Bytram> track ball was missing.
[13:20:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[13:20:12] <TK> new cat toy?
[13:20:22] <Bytram> it was then that we remembered seeing a kid bouncing a little ball as he was walking down the hall.
[13:20:35] <Bytram> took a bit to track him down.
[13:20:36] <crutchy> ~find-last been-working-on-the-railroad
[13:20:55] <exec> last privmsg containing "been-working-on-the-railroad" in #soylent: [2014-10-13 04:21:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Refinery Mandating Switch to Newer Railcars - http://sylnt.us - I've-been-working-on-the-railroad-♩♫♪
[13:21:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, now i gotta check it on twitter
[13:21:34] <Bytram> lookee at: http://logs.sylnt.us
[13:21:42] <crutchy> guess it did work
[13:21:46] <Bytram> made it okay over there, too.
[13:21:50] <Bytram> !woop
[13:21:50] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[13:22:21] <Bytram> yanno, doesn't take much to amuse us, does it? =)
[13:22:26] <crutchy> bytram, exec scrapes loggie's files
[13:22:30] <TK> Is the search time directly proportional to string length?
[13:22:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh, no dept at all on twitter
[13:22:41] <TK> ~find-last the
[13:22:51] <Bytram> TK: nasty!
[13:22:56] <exec> last privmsg containing "the" in #soylent: [2014-10-14 13:22:30] <TK> Is the search time directly proportional to string length?
[13:23:06] <TK> well there you go
[13:23:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~find-last bewbs
[13:23:17] <Bytram> lol
[13:23:26] <exec> last privmsg containing "bewbs" in #soylent: [2014-10-03 01:04:54] <chromas> Here at Soylent, we have more than just cats and bewbs and circlejerks. We also have irc
[13:23:29] <crutchy> ~find-first bewbs
[13:23:31] <Bytram> ~find-lsat xlefay
[13:23:42] <Bytram> ~find-last xlefay
[13:23:46] <exec> first privmsg containing "bewbs" in #soylent: [2014-04-14 10:46:19] <crutchy> bewbs++
[13:23:58] <exec> last privmsg containing "xlefay" in #soylent: [2014-10-14 13:23:31] <Bytram> ~find-lsat xlefay
[13:24:12] <crutchy> :p
[13:24:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> awe, ya broke it now
[13:24:20] <crutchy> ~last xlefay
[13:24:30] <Bytram> ~find-first find-first
[13:24:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> !seen xlefay
[13:24:32] <ciri> TheMightyBuzzard, xlefay is right here!
[13:24:37] <exec> last privmsg for xlefay in #soylent: [2014-09-02 08:16:21] I need to eat some and get some sleep. I'll tty'all later ;-) Take care!
[13:24:40] <TK> ~find-last godwin
[13:24:53] <exec> first privmsg containing "find-first" in #soylent: [2014-08-09 13:53:46] <crutchy> ~find-first s/
[13:25:00] <exec> last privmsg containing "godwin" in #soylent: [2014-09-29 14:23:19] <TK> What's the systemd version of Godwin's law?
[13:25:10] <TK> lol
[13:25:10] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
[13:25:24] <Bytram> ♩♫♪
[13:25:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, exec is scraping the entire log for the channel every time we do that?
[13:25:33] <crutchy> nah
[13:25:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good
[13:25:40] <crutchy> it caches all but today's log
[13:25:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent work there
[13:26:01] <crutchy> its still slow as shit
[13:26:20] <Bytram> crutchy: but then it still has to, umm, grep through all of them to find "whatevah"
[13:26:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yeah, it would be
[13:26:24] <crutchy> wanna eventually convert that script to a super-awesome-fast pascal program
[13:26:43] <Bytram> crutchy: nah, use AWK -- it's *designed* to do that kind of stuff
[13:27:06] * crutchy shudders at that thawt
[13:27:20] <Bytram> ~find-first wo*p
[13:27:31] <crutchy> you mean i have to use regexps
[13:27:36] <exec> first privmsg containing "wo*p" in #soylent: [2014-10-14 13:27:20] <Bytram> ~find-first wo*p
[13:27:37] <Bytram> =)
[13:28:03] <crutchy> hmm that might be handy feature
[13:28:08] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:28:18] <Bytram> ~find-first !woop
[13:28:32] <exec> first privmsg containing "!woop" in #soylent: [2014-03-08 14:49:12] <kobach> !woop
[13:28:37] <TK> Any chance of wildcard support?
[13:28:51] <paulej72> OK I have that error fixed in the templates, but I would need to restart slash to get it to set.
[13:28:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, just do it as a perl script. /^(.*stuff.*)$/ is nearly as fast as grep
[13:28:58] <crutchy> depends. are there waffles on the table?
[13:29:05] <TK> I don't know why I would want it, but I'll think of something
[13:29:16] <crutchy> grep? i don't do anything that fancy
[13:29:34] <Bytram> hey, did you hear that Nintendo is coming out with a portable game machine? It's called the "Wee Wii"
[13:29:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> bah-dum-ting
[13:30:03] <crutchy> you might start hurling rocks at me if you saw the abomination that runs when you do ~find-last/first
[13:30:32] <Bytram> crutchy: don't need to. enough people using it will bring your box to its knees and you'll *want* to fix it. =)
[13:31:03] <Bytram> fun with homonyms: We wii? Oui! Wheeeee!
[13:31:12] <crutchy> it'll prolly just bork then. it seems to be exceedingly good at that at least
[13:31:27] <Bytram> paulej72: you're a quick one!
[13:31:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.youtube.com
[13:31:53] <NetCraft> ^ 03Muppet Show. Swedish Chef - Chocolate Moose (ep.220) - YouTube
[13:32:00] * crutchy awaits patiently for the next github feed
[13:32:23] * Bytram notes crutchy doesn't *look* all that patient
[13:32:27] <crutchy> maybe need to make it 5 minutes
[13:32:33] <crutchy> instead of 15
[13:33:36] <crutchy> ~rehash
[13:33:37] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (92 aliases)
[13:34:07] * crutchy did *not* just change github feed interval to 5 mins :p
[13:34:16] * Bytram remembers watching "Alias" -- first (and second) seasons were a fun watch
[13:34:36] <Bytram> crutchy: what's the channel for it?
[13:34:58] <crutchy> #github
[13:35:13] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:35:14] <Bytram> thanks!
[13:35:35] * Bytram tries to remember how to tell hexchat to autojoin that channel when it starts.
[13:36:18] <paulej72> fix tested on dev and works. do we want to bounce prod to get it up?
[13:37:01] <Bytram> our friend "g" has already mentioned a couple times that he didn't get attribution for his stories and s/he tends to be pretty vocal...
[13:37:06] <Bytram> I say it's worth it.
[13:37:15] <crutchy> "prod to get it up"...
[13:37:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, it's not something editors can't fix but it wouldn't suck to save them having to remember to.
[13:38:40] <Bytram> well, we've missed it a couple times already
[13:39:06] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: worst part is that when I click on a story to work on it, there's no mention of who submitted it any more.
[13:39:11] <paulej72> site bounced and fix loaded
[13:39:17] <Bytram> paulej72++
[13:39:17] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 85
[13:39:20] * Bytram goes off to look
[13:39:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72++
[13:39:36] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 86
[13:39:42] <crutchy> ~isup soylentnews.org
[13:39:43] * Bytram reloads submissions page
[13:39:44] <exec> soylentnews.org: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[13:39:58] * Bytram loads submission
[13:40:11] * Bytram sees: gewg_ writes:
[13:40:15] <Bytram> paulej72++
[13:40:15] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 87
[13:40:22] <crutchy> press play on tape
[13:40:38] <paulej72> Do we know how many gewg_ stories were broke?
[13:40:45] * Bytram looks at a *real* ac submission: http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:45] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN Submission by Anonymous Coward 03How these people react in this experiment is surprising
[13:41:00] <Bytram> sees: An Anonymous Coward writes:
[13:41:03] <Bytram> yay!
[13:41:29] <Bytram> now checks story submitted by a user with a nick
[13:42:06] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard has an e-mail addy and that looks good in the story page
[13:42:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, yes i does. and still no spam to it so far.
[13:43:07] <crutchy> !todo spam tmb
[13:43:07] <Bender> todo item 8 added
[13:43:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, LXQt has just hurt my brain. lxde redone in Qt5
[13:43:26] <crutchy> 8 items!¿
[13:43:26] <Bytram> and, lastly, just saw: "tonyPick writes:" which is: <p class="byline"><a href="//soylentnews.org/~tonyPick/">tonyPick</a> writes:</p>
[13:43:28] <Bytram> yay!
[13:44:22] <Bytram> paulej72: unless there's some other way to get something in there (e.g. AIM contact?) I think that covers it!
[13:44:47] <crutchy> bender todo lists are global it seems (get same list regardless of channel)
[13:44:50] <crutchy> bender++
[13:44:50] <Bender> karma - bender: -7
[13:45:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo
[13:45:05] <Bender> todo for themightybuzzard: 1) get m2 working 2) argue for the death of Overrated and Underrated 3) IDN support 4) utf8mb4 upgrade 5) discuss allowing extra html formatting tags in comments 6) chastise paulej72
[13:45:16] <Bytram> hmmm, AC who supplies an e-mail addy?
[13:45:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> !done 3
[13:45:20] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[13:45:55] <crutchy> Bytram, doesn't that kinda defeat the purpose of "Anonymous" Coward?
[13:46:24] <Bytram> throwaway email account
[13:46:32] <crutchy> ah
[13:46:41] <crutchy> can do that in submission?
[13:46:42] <Bytram> not likely, but possible.
[13:47:15] * crutchy never looked too hard at the form. prolly why i keep forgetting stuff like section
[13:47:16] <Bytram> I am pretty sure it's possible. haven't tried it, though
[13:49:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm. looks like journals need their template updated to show domain tags
[13:49:18] <Bytram> crutchy: btw, I saw you added some talk back to our wiki, but I can't seem to find any way to reply to it. :/
[13:49:53] <crutchy> have to login i think
[13:57:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, pushed a fix for journal domain tags to that pull request
[13:57:53] <paulej72> OK
[13:59:32] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I hate that logic, it should only do the domain tags stuff if needed not create the pretext every time.
[14:00:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff and an easy fix
[14:00:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> gimme five and i'll get it pushed
[14:01:41] <paulej72> have another few issues:
[14:02:44] <paulej72> I thouught that domain tag of 2 was going to stay the same while 3 was going to be the new one for showing in stories and journals. The editComm template says the opposite
[14:03:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> done
[14:03:26] <paulej72> Next previewForm you subsitute pretext for subtext, is that correct
[14:04:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, 2 was a funny case there. nobody ever actually had it set in the db no matter how hard they tried to because the logic would set undef instead.
[14:05:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> the previewForm one should probably be changed to match but it's not functionally incorrect
[14:06:03] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: because 2 was the default so it was set to undfined to make the logic simpler somewere else. That is a typical slashism
[14:06:39] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: btw, I did some more reading up on the diacritic stacking and saw someplace (sorry I don't recall where) that suggested that should keep up to 4 stacked diacritics.
[14:07:12] <Bytram> I'm thinking any extra should be replaced with U+FFEF (or whatever the bad utf char is)
[14:07:26] <Bytram> just deleting them can cause some security holes.
[14:07:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, yeah, i looked everywhere it was used for that update and it helped exactly nothing to do it that way. in fact one spot said it should not be set to undef.
[14:07:48] <paulej72> Bytram: the first is an easy fix as it is a var in the db, the second I am not so sure of
[14:08:26] <Bytram> paulej72: so we basically *strip* any diacritics that appear after the (admin var amount) ??
[14:08:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, first one is easy second one means rewriting the regex to significantly more complex.
[14:08:38] <crutchy> if you can get security hole just by deleting them, can you get same security hole by omitting them in the first place?
[14:08:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, no if it hits the threshold we strip them ALL off that character.
[14:09:39] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I was not expecting that
[14:10:14] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Hmmm? Uabcdefg if ech of a through g represent a diacritic character, and let's say the threshold is 4, so we strip ALL the diacritics and get just "U" ???
[14:10:22] <Bytram> s/ech/each/
[14:10:22] <SedBot9000> <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Hmmm? Uabcdefg if each of a through g represent a diacritic character, and let's say the threshold is 4, so we strip ALL the diacritics and get just "U" ???
[14:10:43] <Bytram> I'd have thought we'd get "Uabcd"
[14:10:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> my general thinking is set the var where we think it's plenty high for any possible legit use and if it's not a legit use wtf do we care if any of them are preserved.
[14:11:06] <crutchy> seems fair enough to me
[14:11:11] <Bytram> hmmm
[14:11:26] <crutchy> at least it will be obvious something fucked up
[14:11:50] <Bytram> I've fat-fingered enough things often enough, we should at least let one or more extra in...
[14:12:05] <Bytram> in that case, set the max to allow 6 diacritics in a row
[14:12:09] <paulej72> they should see it in the preview
[14:12:24] <Bytram> paulej72: hmm, good point.
[14:12:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> six, really?
[14:12:52] <Bytram> I'm not entirely convinced.
[14:12:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> shrug, wouldn't stack annoyingly high i guess
[14:13:28] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: does you regex strip at 4 or above 4?
[14:13:31] <Bytram> it's been my e3xperience that people are MUCH better at seeing something that IS there and saying "that's wrong" than they are at not seeing something, and saying that's missing.
[14:13:45] * Bytram has done that WAY too many times when editing stories
[14:13:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> at 4. the var is the cutoff threshold not the safe threshold
[14:14:21] <paulej72> So we should change that to 5 to be on the safe side
[14:14:29] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: so Uabc is okay, but Uabcd would get stripped to "U" ??
[14:14:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, zactly
[14:14:47] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:14:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless you do like pj just said then Uabcd would be fine
[14:15:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> 4 was just an arbitrary decision on my part since i needed a number to work from.
[14:15:35] <Bytram> in that case, I suggest we allow "Uabcde" so even if they fat finger somethin it still gets out there (mostly) right.
[14:16:00] <Bytram> btw, this is all wrt IDN right? or are we talking about comment text, too?
[14:16:15] <paulej72> this is everywhere
[14:16:31] <Bytram> paulej72: oh! hmmm, lemme think
[14:16:48] <Bytram> brb afk
[14:16:49] <ciri> ok Bytram
[14:17:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm genuinely wondering what possible character could need five or more accents
[14:18:26] <paulej72> probably none. and I would bet there are few that need 4 and they are in languages we will never see on this site
[14:18:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[14:19:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm also wondering if accents can be used to add stink lines to the poo glyph
[14:19:26] <paulej72> but we did hav an asshole do the multiple diacritics to break the site
[14:20:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, saw that. wonder if this'll retroactively fix it.
[14:20:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't remember
[14:20:37] <paulej72> may or may not. filters are not alwasy appled when they should be.
[14:20:49] <Bytram> back
[14:20:55] <Bytram> gave it some thought
[14:21:13] <paulej72> If it were me, i would filter going into the db and comming back out of the db
[14:21:21] <Bytram> in story comments, if they start stacking things to cause "problems" -- downmods will get it.
[14:21:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, not for folks at -1
[14:21:48] <Bytram> hmm
[14:21:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> like moderators and me
[14:21:57] <Bytram> and me
[14:22:27] <Bytram> diacritic_max_keep = 4
[14:22:46] <Bytram> it it proves to be a problem, we can change the value
[14:23:07] <Bytram> otherwise, that should cover all reasonable cases
[14:23:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya. we're pretty much unicode-free still even though we support it.
[14:23:33] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I am looking at your 362 pull, and I need to look at it some more before I merge it. I think there may be some issues with it and I need to look at the full templates and stuff to make sure we do not break anything.
[14:23:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup yup
[14:23:57] <Bytram> with that, worst case is Uuuuu Udddd (where each "u" is a diacritic which stacks "up" and "d" stacks "down")
[14:23:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> no rush on it.
[14:24:50] * Bytram should really construct a list of *all* places where users can enter text and where it appears on the site.
[14:24:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> by honestly this fix was mostly for the editors. for comments it was never going to overflow the comment div anyway since pj fixed that.
[14:25:11] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:25:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> but it could've annoyed the crap outa you lot by stacking in the title and screwing up the subs page.
[14:26:24] <Bytram> in that case, the subs page needs a style/div to block that from happening: overflow: none;
[14:26:32] <Bytram> or something like that
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[14:26:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> could but this solves it for pretty much everywhere.
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[14:27:53] <Bytram> methinks we still need the overflow block on the subs page. otherwise, I do see what you are doing.
[14:29:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> awe man, you can't stack stink lines on the poo glyph. they show to the side.
[14:29:50] <Bytram> fwiw, I just loaded up a page using firefox which has the Supercombiner in it and it comes up with a glyph that is about 1.5 chars tall
[14:30:13] <Bytram> see: http://lettvin.com
[14:30:13] <NetCraft> ^ 03Rendering Unicode
[14:30:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, eeek, your fix branch needed merging. changed all of the idn stuff back.
[14:30:40] <Bytram> I'm using FF 24.8.1esr
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[14:32:12] <Bytram> hmmm! brb
[14:32:48] <Bytram> let's see how IRC handles the supercombiner...
[14:32:49] <Bytram> ừ̴̵̶̷̸̡̢̧̨̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟̠̣̤̥̦̩̪̫̬̭̮̯̰̱̲̳̹̺̻̼͇͈͉͍͎́̂̃̄̅̆̇̈̉̊̋̌̍̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̽̾̿̀́͂̓̈́͆͊͋͌̕̚ͅ͏͓͔͕͖͙͚͐͑͒͗͛ͣ͘͜͟͢͝͞͠͡
[14:33:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> fine for hexchat
[14:33:15] <Bytram> I only see a pile of junk that's a single char high
[14:33:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to be client dependant though
[14:33:23] * Bytram is using hexchat, too
[14:34:19] <Bytram> looks not too bad in the IRC log, too: http://logs.sylnt.us
[14:34:36] <Bytram> that is, at least when I use ff.
[14:34:50] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: i’ll fix that, sorry
[14:34:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[14:35:37] <Bytram> darn! look at the time!!!! I needs to be getting ready for my day job.
[14:35:43] <Bytram> this is MUCH more fun!
[14:36:01] <paulej72> Fixed
[14:37:20] <paulej72> OK need to go to meeting. bbl
[14:37:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks good, merged
[14:37:47] <Bytram> paulej72: btw, the update you did to prod... did you push those to dev, too?
[14:37:53] <Bytram> good luck at the meeting!
[14:38:18] <Bytram> and with that, I'm off to get ready for the day; will keep window open until I need to leave
[14:38:23] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:38:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 943
[14:38:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:38:26] <Bender> karma - coffee: 944
[14:38:28] <paulej72> yes ested on dev first
[14:38:34] <Bytram> paulej72: GREAT!!
[14:38:37] <Bytram> paulej72++
[14:38:37] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 88
[14:38:42] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[14:38:42] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 94
[14:38:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> with or without the merge cause the badpasswd logging was disabled too
[14:39:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> or rather reenabled
[14:39:15] Bytram is now known as Bytram|afk
[14:42:00] <Bytram|afk> http://phys.org
[14:49:44] <Bytram|afk> ok gtg
[14:49:48] <Bytram|afk> have a great day everyone!
[14:49:52] Bytram|afk is now known as Bytram|away
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[14:56:28] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[14:56:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 945
[14:56:33] <Blackmoore> mornin
[14:56:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin
[14:56:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:56:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 946
[14:57:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> breakfast++
[14:57:06] <Bender> karma - breakfast: 1
[14:57:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, there's something to be said for getting up and getting your shat done for the day before everyone else is even up and around.
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[15:24:14] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: That only works when said shat doesn't require other people to be up and around. :(
[15:24:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[15:24:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> been a few days i had to wait for pj to drag himself out of bed to get some input
[15:30:01] <Leebert> Woo Hoo. The time extension for modpoints has had me actually use all of mine for the first time.
[15:30:16] <Leebert> That, and the fact that I should be doing something boring instead of moderating.
[15:32:06] <mrcoolbp> coffee++
[15:32:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 947
[15:33:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[15:33:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 948
[15:34:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> i turned mine off so if i don't feel like moderating they don't sit in limbo for a whole day.
[15:34:30] <Blackmoore> take a four day weekend, come back to a pile of steaming crap. *sigh*
[15:35:07] <Leebert> Holy #(# I just realized that I'm writing a todo list in Microsoft Word. What has HAPPENED to me??
[15:35:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> you've picked up the red lightsaber
[15:35:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, mrcoolbp
[15:35:40] <mrcoolbp> mornin'
[15:35:42] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: did I miss anything on the long weekend?
[15:36:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> a point release or two for minor bug fixes.
[15:36:18] <mrcoolbp> nod
[15:36:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothin drastic though
[15:38:10] * mrcoolbp worked ~48 hours in 4 days, is barely awake despite 10hrs sleep
[15:38:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ?! and here i was going to ask if you had fun on your long weekend
[15:38:44] <mrcoolbp> yeah...
[15:39:12] <mrcoolbp> should be receiving our CDs today
[15:39:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, your band. i was wondering wtf SN would put on a CD
[15:40:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> greatest outbursts of ethanol-fueled?
[15:40:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> source to crutchy's bot?
[15:41:07] <mrcoolbp> "EF greatest banss"
[15:41:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> there ya go
[15:42:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> not quite 11 and i'm already feeling nappish
[15:43:10] <mrcoolbp> well I just woke " " " " "
[15:45:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should do up an email about the moderation rework. should also go back and reread all the comments over it. get some pre-meeting input to drag into the meeting.
[15:45:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> not doing it today though. my getting stuff done quota is already filled.
[15:46:08] <mrcoolbp> yeah, I need a day off
[15:46:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, i been up since five and already got one pull request in and the updates requested by pj put into it.
[15:46:50] <mrcoolbp> nice work
[15:47:00] <mrcoolbp> {{TMB}}
[15:47:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> slowly whittling down the issues queue. this time next year we'll have ALL NEW BUGS
[15:50:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, believe i'll go ahead n have a nap now instead of waiting until 1-2
[15:51:56] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: cool cool, we are receiving monies from bitpay BTW
[15:52:08] <mrcoolbp> just saw the first payment come in on the 9th
[15:52:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> yay monies
[15:52:21] <mrcoolbp> ya
[15:57:46] <mrcoolbp> ~UID
[15:57:48] <exec> The current maximum UID is 4800, owned by nhn
[16:01:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pentagon Conspires to Manufacture Untraceable SIlencers, Probably for Foreign Guerillas - http://sylnt.us - better-late-than-never
[16:03:43] <exec> 05*** SN funding has changed from $2,115 to $2,326.82
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[18:54:59] <Leebert> You know, it would be interesting to be able to flag a story submission as "time sensitive"
[18:55:56] <Leebert> So like, I submitted the "maybe a big SSLv3 vulnerability?" story, which would be something I might tick the "time sensitive" option on, whereas when I submitted "CVE10k" story I would not have.
[18:57:27] <Leebert> That is, assuming editors would actually have a process by which they acted on time-sensitive stories.
[19:00:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mostly just let them know in here. like when i used the word "today" in the title
[19:00:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yeah, that's not a terrible idea
[19:03:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> yo, Azrael, can you have a look at that?
[19:05:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> Leebert, mostly we just go with who's available to edit at the moment. volunteer staff n all.
[19:08:07] <Leebert> Oh, I get you. That's why I added the afterthought of: "if there's actually something that could be done with it." :)
[19:17:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i may blow off coding and go fishing in the morning.
[19:18:04] <Leebert> Gah. I got my boat registration for the local reservoir and didn't go once this year.
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[19:18:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's just silliness, that is.
[19:18:20] <Leebert> I even bought a new battery for the trolling motor. Still haven't used it.
[19:18:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> still, fish have to eat all through the winter.
[19:19:26] <Leebert> heh. Well, I don't generally actually go fishing myself. I usually take someone who wants to fish.
[19:19:37] <Leebert> I don't eat fish, and I don't want to catch them if I'm not going to eat them.
[19:19:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm thinking about going and dropping a few live perch down to the bottom by the dam of the lake i fish at soon but i really need to fix the gas motor.
[19:19:56] <Leebert> So for me, it's just a nice excuse to take a jaunt around in the nice weather on the boat.
[19:20:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i don't eat em either. i give em to family and let them eat them.
[19:20:27] <Leebert> Gas motors are a no-go on the local reservoir.
[19:21:08] <Leebert> Personally, I'd rather have spilled petrolium than battery acid, but hey, whatever.
[19:21:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> what, completely?
[19:21:11] <Leebert> Yeah.
[19:21:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ours is a pretty big one. would take an hour on a trolling motor to cross it
[19:21:31] <Leebert> http://dnr2.maryland.gov
[19:21:32] <NetCraft> ^ 03Liberty Reservoir
[19:21:39] <Leebert> Note "Restrictions"
[19:23:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.nps.gov
[19:23:19] <NetCraft> ^ 03Lake of the Arbuckles - Chickasaw National Recreation Area (U.S. National Park Service)
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[19:25:03] <Leebert> Wow. That's pretty middle-of-nowhere. :) But looks like a nice place.
[19:28:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> Yep yep. Covered fishing docks sitting out on 12' of water with pole holders built in. Should be 20' but we're having a bit of a drought.
[19:30:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> Oh I think I hate you just a bit for having striper there.
[19:30:57] <Azrael> TheMightyBuzzard: at what?
[19:31:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[19:31:25] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN Submission by Leebert 03Rumor: "Nasty" SSL vulnerability to be revealed "soon#34;
[19:31:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> bit time sensitive there as it's getting released tomorrow looks like
[19:31:58] <Azrael> okio :)
[19:32:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> gracias
[19:36:27] <Azrael> set to go out tonight
[19:36:36] <Azrael> (that's tonight GMT)
[19:37:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> you da man
[19:37:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> Azrael++
[19:37:43] <Bender> karma - azrael: 7
[19:40:30] <Azrael> I'm *so* that man with my karma of 7 ;)
[19:40:37] <Azrael> s/that/the/
[19:40:37] <SedBot9000> <Azrael> I'm *so* the man with my karma of 7 ;)
[19:41:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> unsung hero, yep. gotta yack in the channel more, get some brand recognition
[19:41:48] <Azrael> hehe
[19:41:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Terrestrial Transmission in C-Band in Europe - http://sylnt.us - What's-the-frequency-Kenneth?
[19:42:12] <Azrael> tbh I'm not in it for the karma
[19:42:28] <Azrael> I'm in it for the hof position!!! http://soylentnews.org
[19:42:29] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[19:42:34] <Azrael> gotta overtake n1
[19:42:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha!
[19:42:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> I figured it was all about the Benjamins
[19:43:06] <Azrael> hehe
[19:49:28] <paulej72> can I send C on C-Band
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[20:22:00] <cykros> i'm a terrible person making terrible puns. i just said in another channel that my friend gets all the ladies because of his python. and if you ask really nicely, he'll even offer a perl necklace.
[20:22:42] <cykros> if i keep this up i'll need to resort to some medieval catholic penance ritual. like installing systemd
[20:22:42] <chromas> We like the terrible puns 'round these parts
[20:22:55] <cykros> yea, lol, that's why i tabbed back over here :-P
[20:23:56] <chromas> wait, systemd and catholicism?
[20:24:15] <chromas> Now, I'm not saying systemd touches little boys but why won't it come out and say otherwise?
[20:41:56] <crutchy> systemctl touch /etc/little/boys.conf
[20:42:23] <Landon> wat
[20:42:31] <Landon> well, my weekly visit is over
[20:42:33] * Landon thatway
[20:42:57] <crutchy> hi Landon :p
[20:43:14] <chromas> Stay awhile and listen
[20:43:18] <chromas> become an addict
[20:43:40] <crutchy> systemctl lurk
[20:44:40] <crutchy> is there nothing it can't do?
[20:44:57] <crutchy> systemd wash dishes
[20:45:06] <paulej72> I whish
[20:45:44] <chromas> oh yeah, everything /but/ the kitchen sink
[20:45:45] <crutchy> systemd: 'i'm sorry crutchy but i'm afraid i can't do that'
[20:45:55] <chromas> s/t/tt/2
[20:45:55] <SedBot9000> <chromas> oh yeah, everything /butt/ the kitchen sink
[20:46:06] <paulej72> that guy that lives in my apartment does not want to do the dishes any more. I wan t to throw him out but then where would I live
[20:46:36] <crutchy> systemctl fart --general-direction=chromas
[20:46:59] <chromas> ~define elderberries
[20:46:59] <crutchy> is he protesting against cleanliness?
[20:47:01] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3elderberries: 1)Elder or Elderberries-(Sambucus) is a genus of between 5-30 species of fast-growing shrubs or small trees (two species herbaceous), formerly treated in the honeysuckle family Caprifoliaceae, but now...
[20:47:17] * chromas assumes those berries are stinky
[20:47:23] <chromas> or low class
[20:47:23] <crutchy> ~define shrubbery
[20:47:24] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3SHRUBBERY: A form of plant. Not too big or expensive.
[20:47:43] <crutchy> :)
[20:47:46] <chromas> oh maybe it's that her bush smells like old berries
[20:48:11] <crutchy> someone was packing boxes with her
[20:48:46] <chromas> nothin' wrong with that
[20:48:56] <chromas> box_stacking++
[20:48:56] <Bender> karma - box_stacking: 1
[20:49:14] <chromas> box-on-box
[20:49:54] <paulej72> I’d pay money to see that
[20:54:25] <crutchy> my evil pran to spy on github came a bit unstuck last night. run up against the rate limiter for anonymous requests
[20:54:45] <crutchy> jotted down some notes on using basic auth to increase limit
[20:55:10] <chromas> can you get more than one thing per hit?
[20:55:54] <crutchy> dunno. don't think so, but sending an authenticate header with a personal key from github will increase the rate limit by heaps
[20:56:25] <crutchy> i hack that in tonight after workipoos
[20:57:20] <Leebert> The problem with having lots of monitor real estate is that it's hard to find a spot to put my drink without blocking something on the screen. It's a tragedy.
[20:57:54] <chromas> need to stack some of the monitors vertically
[20:58:15] <Leebert> I don't have room to do that. The desk has a shelf above it.
[20:58:19] <chromas> especially since they make them so vertically short now
[20:58:29] <paulej72> use the built-in cup h older
[20:58:32] <crutchy> apt-get install cup-holder
[20:58:33] <Leebert> My desk is tiny.
[20:58:45] <chromas> put the drink up on the shelf or something and use some curly straws
[20:58:46] <Leebert> Like, 5' wide.
[20:59:15] <Leebert> I've noticed this odd inverse relationship between my salary and my desk size.
[20:59:30] <crutchy> do a matrix and get a bunch of stuff to mount them up
[20:59:38] * chromas measures his desk—also 5'
[20:59:47] <chromas> hey are we having a desk-measuring contest?
[20:59:51] <Leebert> I thought it was going to go the other way. When I started at this agency, I had a 10'x15' office that I shared with someone. Now I'm down to a 5' desk in a cube farm.
[21:00:35] <paulej72> I had my coffee mug on a stand beside my desk, I reached for it one day and it slipped out of my hand and landed on my MacBook Pro. It did not spill bu on it, but it put a dent in the case. That portion of the case was just above the spinning rust. Spinning rust did not survive for long. :(
[21:00:37] * crutchy is fortunate enough to have a large desk (in a U-shape with enough for 2 people to wheel chairs around in between) but when i got to 4 screens i pretty much straight away got rid of two
[21:01:23] <crutchy> its nice to have a big desk space to work
[21:01:53] <crutchy> i guess mounting screens on cubicle walls wouldn't take up as much room
[21:02:33] <crutchy> Leebert, i ended up ditching screens in favor of vnc
[21:02:56] <crutchy> remote desktop access is so much nerdier than more screens :p
[21:02:58] <Leebert> I actually need monitor real estate.
[21:03:13] <Leebert> Since I sold my technical soul, I work with a lot of Word and Excel stuff.
[21:03:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> my desk's a 2.5' tv stand. yes i have actual desks but this one fits in front of the couch.
[21:03:27] <crutchy> hahaha
[21:03:48] <crutchy> my 'desk' at home is one of those little square plastic kids play tables
[21:03:50] <Leebert> Otherwise, i'd be fine with a single LCD panel in a laptop and GNU screen.
[21:04:03] <crutchy> also in front of the couch :D
[21:04:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can go from work to nap in a mere 90 degrees
[21:04:16] <Leebert> You haven't learned to sleep sitting up?
[21:04:23] <Leebert> You must not work for the government.
[21:04:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i learned to sleep marching in the army but why when you don't have to
[21:06:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, i think i'll have a lay down until it's too late to cook anything then order a pizza.
[21:06:14] <crutchy> never been in the army but i went to air force cadets when i was young and did drill in the dark when it was raining and cold enough to not feel extremities. is that kinda army'ish?
[21:06:31] <paulej72> I used to use a tv tray stand at my old place I now have real desk at my new one.
[21:06:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> were you tired enough to sleep while walking?
[21:06:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause tired is the defining trait of army life
[21:07:09] <crutchy> not quite. learned a few tricks to keep blow flowing while standing still though. the old toe-wiggle was a fave
[21:07:19] <crutchy> *blood
[21:07:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya n don't lock your knees
[21:07:39] <Leebert> Hrm. You guys make me glad my dad talked me out of joining the National Guard.
[21:07:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> should have, builds character
[21:08:09] <Leebert> I have enough character.
[21:08:21] <crutchy> air cadets was good. dunno if i'd wanna do anything like it for a living
[21:08:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> i got character comin out of my every orifice though.
[21:08:29] <crutchy> i'd rather get paid to sit on my arse
[21:08:41] <Leebert> Hey, I resemble that remark!
[21:09:00] <crutchy> me to fortunately :)
[21:10:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally, i think everyone oughta do a two year hitch in one of the branches when they graduate high school. do em good to know exactly what they're talkin about.
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[21:12:32] <Landon> TheMightyBuzzard: or work on a farm
[21:12:35] <Leebert> I'd have been OK with it then.
[21:12:46] <Landon> I did a summer at my grandpas farm
[21:12:47] <Landon> that was hell
[21:12:56] <Landon> cutting down cedar trees with garden shears
[21:13:10] <Landon> pulling up fence by hand while he was working on the other end of the line with a bobcat -_-
[21:13:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> yick. i'm making some black powder to do that
[21:13:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> or maybe anfo, undecided.
[21:13:34] <crutchy> tmb, but.. but.. think of the chickenhawks! the world needs moar brave souls making sacrifices of others
[21:13:36] <Leebert> I've actually had an opinion that all boys should work: 1.) One service position, 2.) One healthcare position, and 3.) One manual labor position in their youth.
[21:14:02] <Leebert> I suppose girls too. I woudln't generally wish 3) on them though; construction people can be jerks.
[21:14:03] <Landon> I think if you're bright, you'll figure out after one of those three that you need to stop talking shit :)
[21:14:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, we got an overabundance of them and the peace at any cost types. yer welcome to all ya want of either.
[21:14:46] <crutchy> nah. our defence force is just another arm of the USDF atm anyway :(
[21:15:08] <crutchy> gtg to workipoos. till laterz
[21:15:18] <Leebert> I don't think that's true. If it were, we wouldn't let you spell it with a "c". :D
[21:15:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy
[21:16:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> fookin hungry but i's only 4pm.
[21:16:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh hey, i hereby annex teatime from the brits. suck it, limeys.
[21:17:53] <Leebert> mmm. tea. dammit, I was going to go running tonight but I don't want to drink tea before running.
[21:18:02] <Leebert> But now I want tea.
[21:18:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless someone is going to be chasing you, i do not comprehend you and do not wish it explained.
[21:19:39] <Leebert> Yeah, seriously.
[21:19:57] <Leebert> Stupid family history of heart disease and obesity.
[21:21:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Confidence Suddenly Fading at CDC - http://sylnt.us - help-us
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[22:48:30] <prospectacle> hello good people of soylent
[22:48:32] <ciri> hello, nice to see yea! prospectacle
[22:50:04] <paulej72> hi prospectacle
[22:50:05] <ciri> hello, nice to see yea! paulej72
[22:50:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rumor: "Nasty" SSL Vulnerability to be Revealed "Soon" - http://sylnt.us - they-come-in-threes
[22:50:29] <paulej72> shut the fuck up ciri
[22:50:42] <paulej72> :)
[22:50:48] <chromas> ciri is our walmart greeter
[22:50:54] <paulej72> lol
[22:50:56] <ciri> rofl
[22:51:16] <paulej72> she has the same iq
[22:51:18] <prospectacle> ciri--
[22:51:18] <Bender> karma - ciri: 2
[22:51:24] <prospectacle> almost there!
[22:51:37] <Landon> HAH
[22:51:42] <Landon> borderlands has me trained like a pavlovian dog
[22:51:48] <Landon> the settings menu made the chaching noise of the vending machine and I immediately sharted a little dopamine!
[22:52:26] <paulej72> lol
[22:52:27] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
[22:52:37] <chromas> is that the sound when the vending machine gets a new 'special'?
[22:52:44] <prospectacle> yeah sounds are big wrt emotional response. I'm making a crappy little platform game and thinking about what sounds to have. Maybe I'll drop a coin into some other coins and see what that sounds like.
[22:52:49] <Landon> chromas: when you buy something
[22:52:51] <Landon> cha-ching
[22:52:53] <Landon> cha-ching
[22:52:55] <chromas> oh yeah
[22:53:04] <prospectacle> what do gems sound like?
[22:53:23] <paulej72> if i ignore ciri then noone will be left to talk to me
[22:53:26] <chromas> diablo 2 has gem sounds
[22:53:31] <Landon> prospectacle: pretty boring in real life
[22:53:31] <prospectacle> maybe I'll borrow my gf jewellery and try knocking it together in various ways that hopefully don't break it.
[22:53:42] <Landon> they're just a bunch of little rocks
[22:53:45] <prospectacle> landon, yeah you're probably right.
[22:53:47] <chromas> make the sound you want to hear
[22:54:17] <prospectacle> one pepple dropping on to other pebbles sometimes has a satisfying sound. To the quarry!
[22:54:26] <Landon> smaller than a pebble though
[22:54:32] <Landon> you need 1ct size pebbles
[22:54:47] <prospectacle> the aussie 2$ pieces make a nic sound when knocking together, for some reason.
[22:55:07] <prospectacle> nice
[22:58:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, we're still encoding double quotes instead of passing them through.
[22:59:05] <paulej72> cant pass them fucks thing up
[22:59:22] <paulej72> has to be encoded
[22:59:40] <prospectacle> what about the sound of a rock dropping into some coins, then it's like you're adding the gem to your treasure bag?
[22:59:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> for html? nah. if it needs to be encoded for rss n atom n such we should be doing it there.
[22:59:55] * paulej72 terminates the value attribute os the input tags
[23:00:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[23:00:09] <paulej72> of
[23:00:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight
[23:00:30] <paulej72> that what was causing the text to disappear
[23:00:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> we need to move rss/atom to if_not_ent then. they're still encoding the & to &
[23:01:28] <paulej72> that should be an easy fix
[23:01:28] <Landon> prospectacle: I think spelunky just uses a generic money-get sound
[23:01:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima go fishing in the am but i can prolly find that and fix it when i get done
[23:01:41] <Landon> just slightly different than the gold-get, but still in the same vein
[23:02:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> may run decode_entities on them too if rss/atom can deal with unescaped quotes
[23:05:28] <paulej72> rss is encoded in a c data, atom should be fine
[23:05:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> "Rumor: &amp;#34;Nasty&amp;#34; SSL Vulnerability ..."
[23:05:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> yick
[23:06:35] <paulej72> that looks like a triple emcode
[23:06:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, kinda impressively broke
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[23:07:29] <paulej72> encode quote, reencode amp, abpn then again
[23:07:49] <prospectacle> Landon, interesting. Probably there are some generic cash sounds in some public domain library somewhere.
[23:08:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. going to take some funky regexing or several passes most likely
[23:08:27] <paulej72> the quote needs to be encoded in an xml friendly format
[23:08:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> single encoding i can live with
[23:09:37] <paulej72> damn it that guy that lives in my appartment has not done the dishes, lasy bastart
[23:10:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> fooker, neither has the guy at my place
[23:10:35] <paulej72> Plus he need to put the clean sheets on the bed
[23:16:08] <Leebert> At least you guys still have ceilings.
[23:16:25] <paulej72> true dat
[23:16:26] <Leebert> <-- Still waiting for that building permit that I didn't know I needed to go through so I can put my living room back together
[23:16:50] <Leebert> Note to self: Never visit the county permits office to try to so something simple.
[23:17:25] <Leebert> It's been in "Zoning" review since September 18th.
[23:17:29] <paulej72> there's your problem you left someone know you were doing renovations
[23:17:45] <Leebert> I am literally replacing plaster wallboard with drywall.
[23:18:04] <paulej72> ass wipes
[23:18:07] <Leebert> Which I am only doing to re-wire the deathtrap electrical system in there.
[23:18:18] <paulej72> need their pound of flesh
[23:18:34] <chromas> You need a permit to get a permit
[23:18:35] <Leebert> But apparently because of the recently adopted energy code, removing wallboard on an exterior wall means I need to upgrade the insulation.
[23:18:41] <paulej72> knob and tube?
[23:19:08] <Leebert> Even though, when I explained to them that I had JUST updated the insulation when I removed the siding/sheathing 2 years ago, they said: "Oh, that's cool, you should be good to go for insulation."
[23:19:18] <Leebert> No, not THAT deathtrap.
[23:19:40] <paulej72> aluminum wire
[23:19:41] <Leebert> More entirely too many receptacle outlets on a single circuit and "we don't need no stinking ground, this is the 1950's"
[23:20:05] <prospectacle> It has to be a pain in the arse though. If making use of government services was easy, everyone would be doing it
[23:20:12] <paulej72> oh one of thoes. i just moved out of one.
[23:20:56] <Leebert> I actually replaced the panel without a permit because the old circuit breakers refused to break circuits.
[23:20:57] <paulej72> luckily it had a tiny light guage ground so i was able to swap out to grounded outlets
[23:21:42] <Leebert> I actually like to get electrical permits for that sort of thing because it has been historically painless and it keeps my insurance company from going FU WE WON'T PAY in case of a fire in the electrical system.
[23:22:02] <Leebert> Been working through the house slowly and this is the first time I had such a thing come up.
[23:23:22] <Leebert> Last electrical inspection was when I remodeled the bathroom. Inspector came in, glanced around the room, said: "Floor tile looks nice!", and waddled back off to his truck.
[23:23:24] <paulej72> i have never pulled a permit
[23:23:57] <paulej72> but i do know where all the broken shit is
[23:23:58] <Leebert> Understandable. Alas, I do fear that they're going to give me a hard time since in another room I've been moving load-bearing walls.
[23:24:38] <Leebert> That's presently "on hold" until I figure out what I want the new kitchen to look like. Which I suck at figuring out because I have horrible taste in asthetics.
[23:25:11] <Leebert> All I know is: "Gas range, electric oven." And "two dishwashers."
[23:25:29] <paulej72> wife one and wife two
[23:26:54] <Leebert> heh. Dammit, Jim, I'm a Baptist, not a Mormon!
[23:30:09] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: https://github.com Should that be ==2
[23:30:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Voiceprints being Harvested by the Millions - http://sylnt.us - bringing-in-the-sheaves
[23:32:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, yep, what about it?
[23:33:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> 3 is the setting for tags in comments only, so don't show em if user's setting is 3.
[23:33:09] <ciri> 4
[23:33:10] <ciri> 5
[23:33:11] <ciri> 6
[23:33:13] <ciri> 7
[23:33:15] <ciri> 8
[23:33:17] <ciri> 9
[23:33:19] <ciri> 10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:34:04] <paulej72> but domaintag 0 is off
[23:34:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but that particular bit only turns em off for the story text
[23:34:35] <paulej72> and 1 should be off
[23:34:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> and the sub in data.pm takes care of all the other numbers
[23:35:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> the split logic was what made it take so long to figure out this morning.
[23:36:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> but parseDomainTags can't tell if what it's receiving is a story or a comment so the logic has to go in the template
[23:36:08] <paulej72> yes but stories should only display for 2 you have the logic all wrong
[23:36:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> check the settings desctiptions, it's correct.
[23:36:58] <paulej72> you have not display for 3, but it should only display for 2
[23:37:19] <paulej72> for stories that is
[23:37:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, i see what you're saying. it doesn't show for 1 or zero because of logic in parseDomainTags though
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[23:38:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> that was existing logic so i left it.
[23:38:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can move it all out to the templates if you prefer. was just trying to leave what i found mostly alone and only add what was needed.
[23:39:40] <paulej72> ok i have it now
[23:40:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, it gave me a bit of a headache figuring out how to do it at all.
[23:40:12] <paulej72> someone going to wtf on this later
[23:40:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> easy peasy once it clicks though
[23:40:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we can move it all out to template logic if ya prefer.
[23:41:04] <paulej72> maybe we should have a comment in the story and
[23:41:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept the admin.pl bit
[23:42:04] <paulej72> there is one issue though, when domaintags=1. it should not trigger for stories, but it will becsuse recomend will not get set.
[23:42:24] <paulej72> basically we edit the stories so we ar vetting the links
[23:42:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, <!--- look ye to parseDomainTags for the domaintags==[0=2] logic --->
[23:42:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[23:43:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah good catch there
[23:43:43] <paulej72> I would like to have journals still display domain tags on 1 as that would be unvetted material
[23:43:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[23:44:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> noted down on my sticky note thing for tomorrow
[23:46:18] <paulej72> OK so other than that I think everything looks good
[23:47:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, will clean it up tomorrow after giving the fishies hell
[23:47:41] <paulej72> By the way, I am heading back to PA for a long weekend after work tomorrow. I’ll be mostly off the net until Sunday afternoon.
[23:47:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[23:48:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> weekend was some severely sucky fishing. sunday i got worse than skunked. caught no fish but did catch a turtle and a 4' water moccasin.
[23:48:44] <paulej72> turtle soup
[23:49:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i seen some of the junk them turtles eat. they're safe from me.
[23:50:05] <paulej72> i guess you never seen the stuff human eat :)
[23:50:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> snake was a fscking drawers browning experience though.
[23:50:33] <paulej72> sure would be.
[23:51:27] <paulej72> I was given some smoked meat at one point and was told it rattle snake. I am not sure it was.
[23:51:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> sposedly pretty good but i didn't have anything but a fishing pole handy to do battle with
[23:53:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, time for deeshes.
[23:53:29] <paulej72> i guess I should get mine, and start packing as well
[23:53:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> any later and i'll just end up leaving them and then they pile up and get scary