#Soylent | Logs for 2014-10-06

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[00:57:55] <crutchy> coffee++
[00:57:55] <Bender> karma - coffee: 921
[00:59:15] <chromas> actually, last
[00:59:23] <chromas> oops, enter's not shift
[00:59:40] <chromas> last I ran Windows, driver installers still used /
[00:59:54] <crutchy> shift? dunno what that is
[01:00:43] <chromas> For some reason, it's Proper™ to capitalize stand-alone Is
[01:01:03] <crutchy> i think theres still a c:/windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
[01:03:13] <crutchy> wonder if theres any windows drivers that were originally for linux and adapted with a few hacks like that
[01:07:21] <chromas> When they're that hackish, they can probably barely manage the windows api, let alone linux
[01:15:37] <paulej72> slash redeploy on prod to fix bitpay bug
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[01:36:44] <chromas> Found some apparently unused Koss Pro/4AA Dynamic Stereophone headphones from 1975
[01:37:40] <crutchy> now all you need is some bee gees and some snuff
[01:38:42] <chromas> Ooh, they were bought from a place called Jafco for $36.47
[01:39:13] <chromas> The guy who bought them had a thing about buying things, writing down price and location on the packaging and then not using them
[01:39:33] <SpallsHurgenson> there are worse habits
[01:40:11] <chromas> As long as I benefit by acquiring free things, I'm all for it
[01:40:15] <crutchy> cool. smudge something that could be construed as the virgin mary if you're tapped out on roofies and sell them on ebay for $10k
[01:40:38] <crutchy> better use vegemite for authenticity
[01:41:43] <SpallsHurgenson> just so long as you don't eat it
[01:42:19] <chromas> not sure if that exists in the states. I guess that just reinforces the miraculousness…osity
[01:43:14] <crutchy> miraculinessnessness
[01:43:20] <SpallsHurgenson> vegemite exists as an import. why we allow it to enter the country while cracking down on less dangerous pollutants, like crack cocaine, I'll never understand
[01:43:22] * chromas hunts for ¼" to ⅛" phone adapter; finds many 128MB and lower cards of sdram
[01:44:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ar, it's all your fault you tea drinker, you
[01:44:11] <crutchy> i'll give you 14 x 8mb sticks for your 128mb stick
[01:44:37] <crutchy> can even throw in some 4mb
[01:45:12] <chromas> I have a 4MB compactflash card; only one I've ever seen
[01:45:21] <crutchy> for some freshly imported virginamite
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[01:47:04] <chromas> that uh…th–that doesn't sound quite right
[01:47:12] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson, if you're worried about our vegemite, you should see what ends up in our baby's diapers
[01:47:23] <SpallsHurgenson> is there a difference?
[01:47:25] <chromas> At least wear a glove when you make it
[01:47:27] <crutchy> *thats* a chemical weapon
[01:47:56] <chromas> crutchy: it's a vicious cycle—give them vegemite, the diaper gets worse
[01:48:09] <crutchy> actually theres prolly nuclear things in there too
[01:48:15] <crutchy> hell knows
[01:50:04] * chromas gives tama crutchy's diaper
[01:50:34] * SpallsHurgenson looks at the salad he is supposed to eat... and the apple cake sitting next to it that he is not.
[01:50:36] <crutchy> chromas++ # you're brave
[01:50:36] <Bender> karma - chromas: 43
[01:50:46] <SpallsHurgenson> Salad... cake... salad... cake... salad... cake...
[01:50:48] <SpallsHurgenson> Cake.
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[01:51:05] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson, ever tried vegemite on celery? its awesome
[01:51:32] <paulej72> WMD
[01:52:02] <paulej72> Does tama have a ¼" to ⅛" phone adapter
[01:52:19] <crutchy> tama has a double adaptor
[01:52:52] <paulej72> goes both ways, hmmm
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[02:57:31] <chromas> halfassedly_tossing_a_branch_aside_but_it_lands_on_end_and_springs_back_and_hits_me_in_the_face--
[02:57:31] <Bender> karma - halfassedly_tossing_a_branch_aside_but_it_lands_on_end_and_springs_back_and_hits_me_in_the_face: -1
[02:58:23] <juggs> o.O
[02:59:02] <SpallsHurgenson> somehow I fell that entry is not going to get a lot of points
[02:59:03] <chromas> At least I used underscores
[03:29:23] <crutchy> dude you could be a youtube star for that. unintentional self-inflicted pain is up there with dubstep cats
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[04:07:29] <SpallsHurgenson> there's no game I can play with my kitty that she thinks is more fun than pounce-the-plastic-bag
[04:09:46] <crutchy> a laser pointer works pretty good for most kittehs
[04:10:05] <SpallsHurgenson> yes... but a laser pointer AND A plastic bag is even better
[04:10:18] <SpallsHurgenson> there's nothing that plastic bags can't make better, as fare as kitty thinks :)
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[04:59:12] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: hm?
[04:59:17] <ar> tea++
[04:59:17] <Bender> karma - tea: 63
[04:59:19] <ar> cofee--
[04:59:19] <Bender> karma - cofee: 1
[04:59:24] <ar> coffee--
[04:59:24] <Bender> karma - coffee: 920
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[06:13:18] <swiss> coffee--
[06:13:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 919
[06:14:04] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:14:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 918
[06:14:05] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:14:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 917
[06:14:12] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[06:14:12] <Bender> karma - fedora: 27
[06:14:13] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[06:14:13] <Bender> karma - fedora: 28
[06:20:07] <crutchy> is 'systemd' a single process?
[06:20:14] <crutchy> pid 1?
[06:21:01] * crutchy is watching a youtube video that claims is not, but it seems a bit fluffy
[06:23:35] <crutchy> turned it off cos the guy started yelling
[06:31:11] <crutchy> http://www.youtube.com
[06:31:12] <NetCraft> ^ 03systemd myths debunked! - YouTube
[06:31:30] <crutchy> interesting talk. by a debian systemd package developer
[06:33:14] <ar> coffee--
[06:33:14] <Bender> karma - coffee: 916
[06:33:21] <ar> tea++
[06:33:21] <Bender> karma - tea: 64
[06:34:02] <ar> crutchy: there are multiple binaries, all tightly integrated and not really separable from systemd
[06:34:33] <crutchy> that's what i figured
[06:35:23] <crutchy> i'm actually having trouble working out what 'systemd' actually is
[06:35:40] <chromas> it's flamebait
[06:35:45] <crutchy> lol yeah
[06:35:45] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[06:35:59] <chromas> it's an umbrella project like KDE
[06:36:23] <crutchy> i'm also having trouble figuring out why there is a fanatical hatred of it
[06:37:07] <crutchy> i can understand why someone would think it sucks
[06:37:22] <crutchy> but its like a religious crusade
[06:37:25] <chromas> Many reasons. It's absorbing other projects like udev, it doesn't do things the same way people are used to
[06:38:11] <crutchy> so will udev cease to exist with its replacement by systemd?
[06:38:30] <crutchy> sorry i dunno much about udev
[06:38:31] <chromas> Apparently loading things in parallel is bad if the system locks up because it's harder to be sure which process found a kernel bug
[06:39:14] <chromas> I think some gentoo people forked udev or extracted it from systemd in a project called eudev (I think). Not sure if it's still going
[06:39:39] <crutchy> what about the original udev?
[06:40:03] <chromas> I think it was absorbed
[06:40:06] <crutchy> disclaimer: i prolly won't be switching to systemd any time soon
[06:40:33] <crutchy> i guess it could be forked if need be
[06:40:42] <chromas> uselessd is a project to remove most of the extras and trim it down to just an init with a few extras (like cgroups and stuff)
[06:40:57] <crutchy> yeah that sounds like an interesting project
[06:41:17] <crutchy> still don't know if i'll try that either cos i'm kinda attached to sysvinit
[06:41:17] <JamesNZ> I think a lot of people just hate Lennart.
[06:41:22] <chromas> But it takes out the logging, timers (which replaced cron) and other stuff
[06:41:31] <crutchy> takes out cron!
[06:41:34] <chromas> that is very extremely true
[06:41:38] * crutchy grabs pitchfork!
[06:41:58] <crutchy> i'm not gunna be dropping cron
[06:42:02] <crutchy> fuck that
[06:42:21] <chromas> There are people who like what systemd used to be, which is what uselessd is trying to go back to
[06:42:27] <crutchy> they can shove their systemd up their buttpipe if they think ima gunna drop mah crontab
[06:42:46] * chromas gives tama a thimble of the cron
[06:43:05] <crutchy> so is there anything that systemd does that's cool?
[06:43:10] <chromas> Well you can still run a cron or a syslogd even on systemd
[06:43:11] <crutchy> i've heard about faster boot
[06:43:28] <crutchy> oh well thats good
[06:43:35] <chromas> It starts things in parallel as much as it can
[06:43:40] <crutchy> if systemd doesn't kill cron its ok
[06:43:47] <chromas> lol
[06:43:47] <ciri> lol damn!
[06:43:59] <crutchy> does it kill anything else?
[06:44:05] * JamesNZ 's system has consistently gotten slower since F15 (i.e. when systemd entered)
[06:44:21] <crutchy> its not gunna make me start using network manager oor some shit?
[06:44:33] <crutchy> /etc/network/interfaces++
[06:44:37] <chromas> oh another thing is Lennert doesn't care about it being portable so some people don't like that
[06:44:38] <JamesNZ> F14: about 25 secs, my current one (F20) used to take over a minute.
[06:44:56] <crutchy> meh i don't give a shit about portability
[06:44:56] <chromas> no it has its own net manager
[06:45:07] <chromas> you don't have to use it though
[06:45:07] <crutchy> bsd--
[06:45:07] <Bender> karma - bsd: -1
[06:45:39] <crutchy> i usually apt-get remove network-manager
[06:45:40] <chromas> Windows starts pretty fast too, even XP on the systems of its day, so long as you didn't have Norton or something
[06:46:49] <crutchy> boot times aren't that much of an issue
[06:46:58] <crutchy> esp with ssd's
[06:47:13] <chromas> ssds+
[06:47:14] <chromas> ssds++
[06:47:14] <Bender> karma - ssds: 1
[06:47:16] <chromas> stds--
[06:47:16] <Bender> karma - stds: -1
[06:47:19] <crutchy> if you gunna complain about 5 sec you need to look at what else you doin with your time
[06:47:57] <crutchy> when i start up my win 7 workstation at work i go make a coffee it takes so long
[06:48:09] <chromas> probably has shit on it
[06:48:13] <crutchy> but i gotta make a coffee anyway, so it works out good
[06:48:14] <chromas> (besides windows)
[06:48:28] <crutchy> avast--
[06:48:28] <Bender> karma - avast: -1
[06:48:40] <crutchy> unfortunately i can't get rid of that :(
[06:48:50] <chromas> I like the declarative service files, instead of executable scripts
[06:49:05] <chromas> But I'd also like to see the web get more declarative too, so I'm a nut
[06:49:17] <crutchy> the guy in that youtube i linked wrote service files for debian's systemd
[06:49:58] <crutchy> i dunno whether i agree with all the stuff he said, but at least he was calm about it
[06:50:21] <crutchy> the other systemd advocate i watched some of was a loon
[06:50:47] <crutchy> i hate it when youtubers start literally yelling into a microphone
[06:50:48] <chromas> The guy doing uselessd seems to be level-headed (at least from what I've seen in irc).
[06:50:51] <chromas> yeah
[06:51:01] <chromas> or anytime they don't know how to normalize the audio
[06:51:08] <crutchy> yeah
[06:51:42] <crutchy> might have been cos i watch watching linus talk before. everyone seems crazy compared to him. never seen a guy so mellow about stuff
[06:52:13] <swiss> he's amazingly mellow for how opinionated he is
[06:52:19] <swiss> i love almost all of his opinions too
[06:52:33] <crutchy> he's got a bit of a temper when typing i guess
[06:53:29] <swiss> idk, i still admire the hell out of him
[06:53:31] <crutchy> anyway, i haven't really found any good reason to switch to systemd
[06:53:38] <crutchy> yeah he seems pretty cool
[06:53:42] <chromas> I'd been using it and didn't even know it
[06:53:54] <swiss> at some point the only reason will be "it'
[06:53:59] <swiss> it's harder not to switch"
[06:54:02] <chromas> on other distros, they seem to keep the service program as a wrapper
[06:54:14] <crutchy> i think i had a systemd package or two when i was using gnome, but no systemd pid 1
[06:54:39] <crutchy> now i've got a bastardised system with xfce and gnome
[06:54:50] <crutchy> but still sysvinit
[06:54:52] <chromas> gunome--
[06:54:52] <Bender> karma - gunome: -1
[06:55:06] <chromas> xfce++
[06:55:06] <Bender> karma - xfce: 2
[06:55:07] <swiss> i love my gnome3
[06:55:19] <chromas> can you move the panel yet?
[06:55:24] <crutchy> i haven't found anything that works better for me than gedit
[06:55:55] <crutchy> and i like favorites in nautilus, which i couldn't find in thunar
[06:56:01] <swiss> sublime text
[06:56:07] <swiss> best text editor i have run into
[06:56:18] <swiss> follow a few tutorials to learn the tricks
[06:56:20] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[06:56:20] <Bender> karma - emacs: 3
[06:56:31] <swiss> suddenly it's as simple as gedit, but more powerful than vim
[06:56:53] * chromas should switch away from nano just 'cause toejam
[06:57:00] <swiss> gross
[06:57:10] <chromas> it wasn't me
[06:57:14] <crutchy> lol
[06:57:15] <ciri> rofl
[06:57:19] <swiss> i don't like nano cause it doesn't play nice in a multitude of situations
[06:57:34] <swiss> ssh on a chromebook? nano hates life
[06:57:40] <swiss> anything that bound ctrl+w basically
[06:57:49] <crutchy> only thing i would really like in gedit is a code explorer like in delphi/lazarus
[06:58:01] <chromas> I don't like it's shortcuts. "Write Out" instead of Save
[06:58:18] <crutchy> yeah i can't even figure out how to paste :p
[06:58:27] * chromas retracts apostrophe 1
[06:58:31] <crutchy> i'm sure it can though
[06:59:09] <swiss> so every non-apple electronic of mine died with hardware issues
[06:59:19] <crutchy> nano is ok for quick single user mode config fixes though
[06:59:23] <swiss> i am now stuck on my 09 mac mini and an iphone 5
[06:59:33] <swiss> 2 laptops and a phone, all hw issues in a week
[06:59:34] <ciri> 3
[06:59:39] <chromas> that's the only reason to even use a text-mode editor
[06:59:40] <crutchy> you mean you haven't yet got an itube?
[07:00:12] <swiss> i enjoy using vim for quick edits though
[07:00:22] <chromas> I should have said "4"
[07:00:39] <swiss> i find the keyboard-centric part of it makes edits qucker for me
[07:00:47] <swiss> /(search)variable
[07:00:49] <swiss> cw
[07:00:56] <swiss> <new variable>
[07:01:07] <chromas> I pretty much just use i for insert and / for search
[07:01:10] <swiss> <esc>:wq<cr>
[07:01:17] <chromas> that's too much work
[07:01:18] <swiss> cw is great
[07:01:21] <chromas> <esc>ZZ
[07:01:23] <swiss> change word
[07:01:31] <swiss> goes into edit mode, deleting the curren word you're on
[07:01:43] <swiss> or C, which deletes to the end of the line and puts you in edit mode
[07:02:09] <swiss> cw is especially great because after i do it, i can use "." and RE-do it on more variables
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[07:04:21] <chromas> In Lazarus, right-click→Refactoring→Rename identifier
[07:04:53] <swiss> yeah, if i'm doing more serious edits i go to sublime
[07:05:13] <swiss> highlight + ctrl enter, retype and it did all occurances of it
[07:06:20] <chromas> oh yeah, F2 works too. I only like Laz for its code understanding though
[07:08:09] * crutchy tries opening a php file in laz
[07:08:38] <chromas> Did it light your hair on fire?
[07:09:17] <crutchy> code explorer doesn't work with php :(
[07:10:19] <chromas> :(
[07:10:45] <crutchy> i prolly just need to break up the code a bit
[07:10:55] <crutchy> irc_lib.php is a pain cos its over 2k lines
[07:10:55] <chromas> port to pascal
[07:11:02] <crutchy> scroll-fest
[07:11:12] <chromas> code folding
[07:11:40] <crutchy> yeah that too, but delphi 7 didn't have that so i don't miss it
[07:12:13] <crutchy> just being able to double-click a function name in a list and jump it would be good enough
[07:13:00] <crutchy> i know phpstorm has it, but that seems a bit much
[07:13:09] * chromas wonders if kdevelop does php well
[07:13:35] <chromas> crutchy: cum to the candy side of the desktop force.
[07:13:40] <crutchy> actually there was a kde thing i read about that does php
[07:13:46] <chromas> kde++ # we have children too
[07:13:46] <Bender> karma - kde: 0
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[07:14:10] <crutchy> if idon't need full kde for kde apps :)
[07:14:50] <chromas> you don't; you just need a lot :D
[07:14:55] <chromas> kdelibs
[07:15:01] <crutchy> yeah
[07:15:13] <chromas> But you may as well use the awesome desktop and file managers too
[07:15:46] <chromas> heh, earwig on my arm. Gave it a snap and it landed on the curtain, walking off like nothing happened
[07:16:26] <crutchy> reminded me of http://en.wikipedia.org
[07:16:27] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03Micro (novel)
[07:16:32] <crutchy> good book
[07:19:11] <crutchy> they'll prolly make it into a movie
[07:19:18] <crutchy> with baysplosions
[07:22:22] <chromas> Found an optical mouse laying around. They never have enough resolution
[07:23:43] <crutchy> at least they don't clog up when youre watching pr0nz like ball mouseses
[07:24:16] <chromas> or need a stupid pad for traction
[07:24:19] <chromas> Pad with wings
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[07:47:11] <crutchy> *mite
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[08:44:24] <JamesNZ> moocs++
[08:44:24] <Bender> karma - moocs: 1
[08:45:30] <JamesNZ> I sometimes can't believe that it's possible to get university-level education for *free*. Such awesomeness.
[08:46:07] <crutchy> where's that?
[08:47:22] <JamesNZ> The ones I know of are Coursera and edX.
[08:54:32] <crutchy> chromas, i think its time to implement the comment blacklisted word flagging idea you came up with
[08:55:26] <crutchy> first flagged word will be 'systemd'
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[10:13:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:13:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 917
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[10:14:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Mattiep
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[11:12:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:12:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 918
[11:24:06] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:24:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 919
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[11:34:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, crutchy
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[11:34:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, even
[11:34:48] <crutchy> g'day
[11:34:48] <ciri> hello, whats up crutchy
[11:35:08] <crutchy> Mattiep not havin much luck with his connection
[11:35:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> appears that way
[11:36:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> work in progress http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[11:37:12] <crutchy> is that a kind of story feed in json format?
[11:37:20] <crutchy> (without all the fluff)
[11:37:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, prettified for now
[11:37:29] <crutchy> kewl
[11:37:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to nuke the pretty later
[11:37:45] <crutchy> have you had a squiz at the #comments channel?
[11:37:58] <crutchy> your api would be handy for that
[11:38:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, thas the idea. haven't written any m=comment subs yet though.
[11:40:09] <crutchy> tbh parsing SN html is pretty easy... one thing i gotta give slash credit for :p
[11:40:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> looking to save you the headaches and make it easier to build admin tools and such.
[11:41:21] <crutchy> have you checked out the wikimedia api? its very powerful. might have some good ideas to model from
[11:41:27] <crutchy> the SN wiki uses it
[11:42:05] <crutchy> exec has a bot-flagged account that enables editing using the api. i have found it pretty sweet to work with
[11:42:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, looks like it defaults to 50 stories returned from that method. i should change that to like 10.
[11:42:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, any well crafted api is pretty nice.
[11:42:31] <crutchy> the #comment channel feed takes the latest 20
[11:42:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> for stories?
[11:42:47] <crutchy> yup
[11:42:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[11:43:11] <crutchy> the feed provides 50 links, but i found that most comments only occur in the first 20 or so
[11:43:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to make that a lot easier in the api. make a m=comments&op=latest&since=cid
[11:44:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> or swap since=cid out with count=50 if you prefer.
[11:44:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> both will be functional
[11:46:25] <crutchy> not sure what the best api for comments would be
[11:46:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> either return every comment since <cid> (probably limit 100) or return the latest 50
[11:46:56] <crutchy> for the feed atm i use "&threshold=-1&highlightthresh=-1&mode=flat&commentsort=0
[11:47:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> latest 50 would be best at startup then go by cid from there out so you don't have new stuff coming in that you've already seen
[11:47:22] <crutchy> so i guess a json formatted version of that for a given sid would be handy
[11:47:47] <crutchy> ah, so only new comments would appear?
[11:47:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly
[11:48:13] <crutchy> one thing exec's feed does atm is look out for +5 comments too, which may not be new
[11:48:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> no scraping every story, one call and you get them for every story.
[11:49:06] <crutchy> couple of examples:
[11:49:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i'll likely return the entire comment structure from the db as a hash in json
[11:49:07] <crutchy> <exec> *** score 5 comment: takyon [881] my picks (from this list) - The 25 Most Censored Stories of 2013-2014 - 3094 chars - http://soylentnews.org
[11:49:11] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN comment by takyon (881)
[11:49:19] <crutchy> <exec> *** new comment: The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) Re:Horizontal whitespace in the queue - Slashcode 14.10 Update - 57 chars - http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:49:20] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN comment by The Mighty Buzzard (18)
[11:49:20] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[11:50:17] <crutchy> it also scrapes the comment content but doesn't display it
[11:50:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Being Smart is Useful but Curiosity is Key to Learning - http://sylnt.us - curiosity-satisfaction-and-no-cats
[11:50:31] <crutchy> (just returns the length)
[11:50:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good
[11:50:59] <crutchy> if i enable 'subscriber' mode i can have the script pm new comments with the content
[11:51:14] <crutchy> its currently disabled
[11:51:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[11:51:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> not bad
[11:51:59] <crutchy> want to introduce settings for score thresholds, keyword flagging (chromas' idea) etc
[11:52:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> declaring a dick-off day on account of we just rolled out 14.10 and i could use a break.
[11:52:32] <crutchy> yeah i reckon :)
[11:52:36] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard++
[11:52:36] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 85
[11:52:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> so playing with the api instead of working on bugs n features.
[11:53:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> wish story text were stored in the same place as story info
[11:53:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> have to make two separate db calls if I want the text too.
[11:53:43] <crutchy> i been fecking around with a little meeting script while i been home from work flattened by some bacterial thing
[11:54:03] <crutchy> ah. that sucks
[11:54:42] <crutchy> can't do some weird inner join or something?
[11:54:48] <crutchy> sql is black magic
[11:56:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly could but trying to use existing slash code for the most part
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[12:12:34] <crutchy> dunno whether it would help with any ideas, but the feed script is: https://github.com
[12:12:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> crap, i'm missing a } somewhere
[12:12:49] <crutchy> bugga
[12:13:12] <crutchy> i was forgetting semicolons thismorning
[12:15:15] * TheMightyBuzzard sighs
[12:15:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't find it either
[12:16:40] <crutchy> in the link you posted was ok
[12:17:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i buggered something up since then
[12:19:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> fook it, ima roll back all my changes
[12:20:19] <crutchy> refactoring++
[12:20:19] <Bender> karma - refactoring: 3
[12:21:33] <crutchy> when i was working on the nick tracking stuff for exec, i abandoned entire script files about 4 times over
[12:21:42] <crutchy> they still in the repo under old
[12:21:57] <crutchy> but i just started fresh each time
[12:22:53] <crutchy> one advantage of personal projects; at least i can afford to do that
[12:23:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep
[12:23:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> just reverted to the last commit after backing up what i'd added
[12:25:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> gah, old commit is having issues too
[12:26:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird thing is gvim shows every bloody one being matched
[12:29:39] <crutchy> whats the bug?
[12:30:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> good question
[12:30:13] <crutchy> s/bug/issue/
[12:30:13] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> whats the issue?
[12:30:22] <crutchy> it might be a feature :p
[12:30:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> really isn't. is bad punctuation somewhere but damned if i can find where.
[12:31:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> and github is being a bitch today for some reason too. won't let me hit the dropdown list of branches
[12:32:18] <crutchy> does weird stuff to me sometimes i cant even select a line
[12:32:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://github.com
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[12:33:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> me either. think they been fucking around and broke it
[12:33:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> "my" variable $slashdb masks earlier declaration in same scope at /srv/slashdev/slash/site/slashdev/htdocs/api.pl line 92.
[12:34:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> should not be getting that error unless i've failed to properly enclose a sub, so missing a curly bracket somewhere or something.
[12:34:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe a ;
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[12:35:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh duh, my bad
[12:36:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> was declaring my $slashdb from @_ and from getCurrentDB
[12:40:54] <crutchy> ooh pj's awake
[12:43:44] <crutchy> ~weather
[12:43:51] <crutchy> derp
[12:49:02] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: you can do joins with the standard slash db calls. I have seen the code.
[12:49:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i saw a few too but they frighten and confuse me
[12:50:55] <paulej72> sure they do, they are joins :)
[12:52:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> say... i used something like what i need recently... wish i could remember where
[12:52:46] <paulej72> The reason for splitting the text of the comments was orginally to have it as a ineexable text table type, while the rest of the data was in the other mysql db type that was more robust.
[12:52:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[12:53:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> makes sense i spose
[12:55:39] <paulej72> yea back in the day Innodb did not support indexing of text blobs, but now it does. Could put them back to gether, but that would be a real bitch of a project
[12:58:28] <crutchy> thunder++
[12:58:28] <Bender> karma - thunder: 2
[12:58:45] <crutchy> rain--
[12:58:45] <Bender> karma - rain: -1
[13:02:33] <ar> coffee--
[13:02:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 918
[13:02:34] <ar> tea++
[13:02:34] <Bender> karma - tea: 65
[13:02:37] <ar> rain++
[13:02:37] <Bender> karma - rain: 0
[13:02:40] <ar> thunder++
[13:02:40] <Bender> karma - thunder: 3
[13:03:30] <crutchy> actually rain not so bad. wind is the worry
[13:03:50] <crutchy> i always get paranoid when we get really gusty winds
[13:04:46] <ar> why's that?
[13:04:49] <crutchy> apparently they still cleaning up south australia after this front
[13:05:59] <crutchy> sometimes the wind seems so strong that i wonder if my roof is gunna stay on
[13:07:57] <crutchy> http://www.heraldsun.com.au
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[13:08:24] <crutchy> derp. bye bye netcraft
[13:11:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - HP Plans to Split into Two Companies. - http://sylnt.us - What-about-the-calculators?
[13:15:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> rain is our friend. my fishin lake is eight feet low
[13:21:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[13:22:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, that needs some tweaking yet
[13:22:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> bodylength is not reporting right
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[13:26:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[13:28:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, happy with it now
[13:29:29] <paulej72> Well I have an issue with the VM I was building. The file size is 2.3GB and GitHub will not host it as it likes files to be 1 GB or less.
[13:30:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> slap it up on thepiratebay
[13:30:48] <paulej72> The stuff I tried to make it smaller is not working.
[13:30:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can seed, if slowly
[13:31:48] <paulej72> That is the issues seeders. We did have that setup, but it did not work when the only seeder stopped.
[13:32:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. we need a good seedbox.
[13:33:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> how bad a hit would it be to put it un-linked-to on dev or staff?
[13:33:13] <paulej72> And I hate to have it torrent only as I despise torrents
[13:33:33] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: could be a dos in waiting
[13:34:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, s'actually an excellent distribution method for something like this. what the protocol was made for.
[13:34:30] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders
[13:35:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> we don't have non-linode hosting that can deal with shuffling 10GB or so a month, do we?
[13:35:09] <paulej72> http://www.nginxtips.com
[13:36:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> we have nginx running anywhere?
[13:36:39] <paulej72> yes carbon, that is why i looked it up. It is where the bit torrent traker was held
[13:37:57] <paulej72> that is why I looked up nginx specifically
[13:37:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent
[13:38:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean they could always just pull it over via scp and limit that themselves but better if we do the limiting.
[13:43:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know we do it to save space but having bodytext be empty if there isn't anything beyond introtext for that story is annoying
[13:49:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, you heard from botfap since he said he was going to download the old VM and try getting it going?
[13:49:11] <paulej72> no
[13:49:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm. guess we should drop him a line with the link when we get the new one hosted.
[13:50:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> let me know n i can do it or can give you his email addy if you'd prefer.
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[14:00:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Bytram
[14:01:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> we decided it was entirely your fault that bitpay didn't work when moved to live cause you didn't use your magical QA powers on it before we pushed it out.
[14:02:21] <SirFinkus> oh god, I'm watching a hilariously bad documentary about the lord of the rings on the history channel
[14:02:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice
[14:02:43] <SirFinkus> complete with extremely budget recreations of the book filmed in the style of the movies
[14:03:16] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: it was Bytram’s fault that we did not edit the template that had info on PP only, it was Linod’s fault that it could not forward a poorly headered request
[14:03:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't we blame him for both?
[14:03:43] <SirFinkus> actors from craigslist in the exact costumes used in the movies
[14:03:46] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: mornin!
[14:03:53] <paulej72> the lord of the rings is not historical :)
[14:04:16] <SirFinkus> yes it is paulej72 its on the history channel so it must be
[14:04:20] <paulej72> no matter what some may think
[14:05:08] <SirFinkus> they don't get the ring right
[14:06:16] <SirFinkus> lol they've taken stained glass windows and woodcuts and "animated" them
[14:06:17] <ciri> hahaha
[14:06:48] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: you can blame me for both, but having never used bitcoin, nor having seen the spec, I can take some small comfort in that. =)
[14:08:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, that and the fact you'd likely never have thought to see if we were sending valid http request headers since browsers fail gracefully on that while load balancers don't
[14:08:49] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:09:08] * Bytram can't think of a way I could have put anything in there to test it in the first place.
[14:09:45] <TK> Larger monospaced text++
[14:09:53] <TK> I love you guys
[14:10:03] <Bytram> I just popped in to see if I could get some help with a story (merged three submissions in the queue)... lamx is on it
[14:10:14] <Bytram> I now need to get myself going for errands and the day job.
[14:10:22] <Bytram> will leave things open until I need to leave.
[14:10:31] <Bytram> oh...
[14:10:33] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:10:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 919
[14:10:35] <Bytram> =)
[14:10:38] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[14:11:41] <Bytram> afk
[14:12:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The 2014 Medicine Nobel Prize Awarded for Deciphering the - http://sylnt.us - rat-in-a-maze
[14:12:29] <SirFinkus> lol did these motherfuckers even read the books?
[14:12:29] <ciri> hehehe
[14:12:56] <SirFinkus> just watched bilbo discover the one ring in some massive treasure chest
[14:13:49] <TK> what?
[14:24:06] <SirFinkus> they didn't even read the fucking hobbit
[14:24:32] <SirFinkus> just portrayed bilbo leading like 3 dwarves on an expedition
[14:24:56] <TK> Is this the newest Hobbit movie?
[14:25:15] <SirFinkus> no, it's a terrible lotr documentary on the history channel
[14:25:20] <SirFinkus> it's hilairously bad
[14:25:30] <TK> wut?
[14:25:51] <TK> I could see the history channel doing that
[14:25:54] <SirFinkus> it looks like for research they watch the trailer for the jackson movies
[14:26:14] <TK> But in ten years, to spur sales of the DVD re-release
[14:26:41] <TK> Are they gearing up to milk another Tolkien property?
[14:26:57] <SirFinkus> I guess
[14:27:31] <SirFinkus> it is 7:30 here though, so I don't think they're trying to cash in really
[14:27:33] <SirFinkus> oh god
[14:27:47] <TK> Maybe this is their way of getting around the copyright
[14:27:54] <TK> I've gotta look up who owns what now...
[14:28:01] <SirFinkus> apparently lotr was inspired by ww1
[14:28:11] <SirFinkus> even though tolkien explicitly said it wasn't
[14:28:28] <SirFinkus> and I just watched a recreation of british troops in the trenches
[14:28:38] <SirFinkus> ...carrying mosin nagants
[14:29:21] <SirFinkus> which for non-firearm nerds, are russian
[14:29:24] <paulej72> athors do not have a say in what they feel inpsired them or what they were trying to say, that is leaft to critics and English teachers
[14:30:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The 2014 Medicine Nobel Prize Awarded for Deciphering the "Brain's GPS" - http://sylnt.us - rat-in-a-maze
[14:31:47] <SirFinkus> Tolkien is a bit different I think, he kind of explicitly lists his references
[14:31:51] * TheMightyBuzzard nods to paulej72
[14:32:51] <paulej72> SirFinkus: don’t let facts gii in the way of the bullshit that English teachers foster on students in the name of teaching literaature
[14:33:20] <SirFinkus> they aren't making a good case for this
[14:33:40] <SirFinkus> "it has battles"
[14:34:51] <TK> fantastic, it must be true
[14:36:59] <SirFinkus> they keep showing these fucking ww1 battle scense with british soldiers with with mosin fucking nagants, it's starting to piss me off
[14:37:48] <paulej72> I justed loved it when my teachers would ask what was the author trying to make you feel. I would imagine they were only trying to make their pocketbooks feel larger by selling more books.
[14:37:53] <SirFinkus> mosins are like $100, and lee enfields $300ish, they only needed 5 rifles
[14:38:22] <TK> They didn't have the props lying around?
[14:38:28] <LaminatorX> MN- "Like firing a 2x4 that hates you."
[14:38:34] <paulej72> we need 5 WW1 rifles for a shoot, see what the props dept has on hand
[14:38:42] <TK> yep, there it is
[14:38:58] <TK> I would think they've fired all their historians by now
[14:38:58] <SirFinkus> for context, most of the blaster rifles in star wars were hacked up lee enfields
[14:39:07] <SirFinkus> and it's the fucking history channel
[14:39:19] <SirFinkus> they don't have a few lee enfields lying around?
[14:39:58] <TK> They saw the blasters from the last episode of ancient aliens, but decided that was a little far
[14:40:09] <paulej72> if it wass not for reruns being so cheap, the History Channel would be gone by now
[14:41:54] <SirFinkus> well, their strategy now seems to be a mix of shit like "Ice Road Axemen" and cashing in on whatever recent movies could concievably be considered "historical"
[14:42:24] <SirFinkus> I remember a few years ago watching a "300" style "documentary" on sparta
[14:43:40] <LaminatorX> I loved "History of the Great Martian War" though. They editited Wells's Tripod martians into actual WWI footage, and had lots of "interviews with veterans" and "commentary by historians."
[14:44:30] <SirFinkus> typically the same level of historical accuracy too
[14:46:23] <SirFinkus> oh, orcs are capitalists elves
[14:46:29] <SirFinkus> [citation needed]
[14:47:15] <TK> LaminatorX, that actually sounds pretty entertaining
[14:47:30] <TK> Is modern marvels still running?
[14:47:42] <SirFinkus> I think so, but modern marvels is the shit
[14:47:50] <SirFinkus> only good show on the history channel
[14:47:52] <LaminatorX> It was pretty well done, and fairly clever in parts.
[14:47:53] <TK> ah hell yeah
[14:48:02] <SirFinkus> and how it's made
[14:48:09] <SirFinkus> but I think that't science channel
[14:49:27] <SirFinkus> gandalf is jesus
[14:49:39] <SirFinkus> bit of a stretch
[14:50:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> and wrong too. all the wizards were essentially angels
[14:53:08] <SirFinkus> I bet I could pitch it to the history channel that the story of the one ring is about a heroin addiction
[14:56:32] <SirFinkus> apparently tolkien invented the reluctant hero
[14:59:20] <SirFinkus> lmao, another flashback to ww1
[14:59:24] <SirFinkus> one of the had a mauser
[14:59:33] <SirFinkus> the british troops I mean
[15:03:50] <LaminatorX> It does sound like they have a crate labelled "WWI Rifles" in the basement somewhere.
[15:10:07] <TK> I remember a dude named Moses
[15:10:14] <TK> Kind of reluctant for a while
[15:10:23] <TK> But I think Tolkien predates that
[15:10:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Some SoylentNews Milestones you may have Missed - http://sylnt.us - applied-navel-gazing
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[15:11:45] <Bytram|away> wish I could stay and chat but gotta go...
[15:11:51] <Bytram|away> have a great day everyone!
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[15:12:03] <Landon> speaking of milestones, wonder how many redirections the sylnt.us has served :) anyone with admin access to that?
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[15:12:27] <SirFinkus> same series, on thor now
[15:12:34] <Landon> also, hells bells 3500 stories and not even a year!?
[15:12:46] <SirFinkus> pretty sure some of the folk metal songs I've heard are more accurate than this
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[15:14:58] <SirFinkus> apparently in the middle ages in scandanavia, dozens of dead bodies littered the streets every dya
[15:15:27] <mrcoolbp> coffee++
[15:15:27] <Bender> karma - coffee: 920
[15:18:06] <SirFinkus> oh boy, apparently "surprising evidence" reveals that the giant serpent thor fought might actually exist
[15:18:14] <SirFinkus> this gonna be good
[15:18:28] * mrcoolbp grabs popcorn
[15:19:37] <TK> The world snake was a metaphor for trans-pacific fiber optic cables
[15:19:47] <TK> the Norse were way ahead of their time
[15:20:04] <TK> They predicted the death of their religion through the spread of information.
[15:22:47] <SirFinkus> so after the commercial break, the cite greek mythology
[15:23:07] <SirFinkus> they rather
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[15:24:08] <SirFinkus> I guess dragons are real now because lots of different civs have dragon myths
[15:27:42] <SirFinkus> HEATHEN HEART, PAGAN PRIDE
[15:28:20] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[15:28:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 921
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[16:11:40] <TK> Did distribution of mod points change?
[16:11:47] <TK> I got 5 instead of 10 this tie
[16:11:49] <TK> time*
[16:12:28] <TK> If so, I'm a fan
[16:12:32] <TK> 10 is too many for me
[16:13:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya https://soylentnews.org
[16:14:23] <TK> thanks for the link
[16:14:38] <TK> Loving the upsized monospace too
[16:15:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> forget who that was. bytram or mrcoolbp i think
[16:15:23] <mrcoolbp> what'd I do
[16:15:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> you responsible for the legible monospace font?
[16:15:41] <mrcoolbp> no
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[16:16:15] <TK> bytram++
[16:16:15] <Bender> karma - bytram: 21
[16:19:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair handfull of minor bug fixes that we didn't remember to name too.
[16:20:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> woah, we beat arstechnica to the brain gps story
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[16:24:39] <TK> I heard it on NPR this morning, was waiting for it to show up here.
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[16:33:33] <Blackmoore> yeah!
[16:45:21] <Blackmoore> http://boingboing.net
[17:19:30] <chromas> crutchy++# for bug detection
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[17:21:37] <chromas> crutchy++ # for bug detection
[17:21:37] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 105
[17:21:47] <chromas> Need to debug my typing
[17:22:24] <paulej72> Blackmoore: 10 random artist that did nothing
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[17:32:33] <Blackmoore> If i had time i'd argue that.
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[17:40:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Gamasutra, Gamergate, Intel, and a Linux Dev - http://sylnt.us - meta-game
[17:41:13] <Blackmoore> i think we've all heard of superman. and most are familliar with Mad, and Playboy.
[17:41:48] <Dopefish_working> Ugh
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[17:42:44] <Blackmoore> well, we couldnt avoid gamergate forever
[17:45:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> !uid
[17:45:35] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4767, owned by zenlessyank
[17:45:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> !help
[17:45:39] <Bender> documentation for jsonbot can be found at http://jsonbot.org
[17:45:43] <Bender> see !list for loaded plugins and "!help plugin" for help on the plugin.
[17:46:13] <chromas> should probably update Bender to point at the source
[17:46:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> source schmource, should give out a list of bloody commands
[17:46:52] <chromas> soylentjsonbot
[17:46:57] <chromas> !list
[17:46:57] <Bender> available plugins: admin, cfg, chan, chatlog, core, fleet, grabquote, ignore, irc, karma, koffie, lod, markov, more, plug, relay, soylentrss, sylnt, todo, twitter, uidchecker, urlinfo, user
[17:47:11] <chromas> !list uidchecker
[17:47:11] <Bender> uidchecker plugin has the following commands: current-uid
[17:47:24] <chromas> what happened to !uid2?
[17:47:27] <chromas> !uid2
[17:47:29] <chromas> !uid-2
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[18:15:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> !uidchecker-new
[18:15:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> !uidchecker-two
[18:15:46] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[18:15:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i forget what he named it but !uid was correct
[18:16:08] <chromas> maybe he replaced the old one
[18:17:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly
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[18:25:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could use a nap
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[19:17:34] <paulej72> !uid
[19:17:35] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4767, owned by zenlessyank
[19:18:03] <paulej72> the old one is gone, and the new one has replaced it.
[19:18:47] <paulej72> The new !uid is based on the max op for zoo.pl
[19:19:23] <paulej72> http://soylentnews.org
[19:19:23] <NetCraft> ^ 03Max User
[19:20:11] <chromas> paulej72++
[19:20:11] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 78
[19:20:59] <paulej72> that was one of thoes extra fixes added to the last update.
[19:32:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Code-In 2014 and Google Summer of Code 2015 Announced - http://sylnt.us - void
[20:35:23] <crutchy> coffee++
[20:35:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 922
[20:38:30] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[20:38:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 921
[20:38:31] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[20:38:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 920
[20:39:06] <Blackmoore> James, did someone give you decaff?
[20:39:10] <Blackmoore> rum++
[20:39:10] <Bender> karma - rum: 18
[20:39:13] <Blackmoore> rum++
[20:39:13] <Bender> karma - rum: 19
[20:39:15] <Blackmoore> rum++
[20:39:15] <Bender> karma - rum: 20
[20:39:47] <JamesNZ> No idea, I just don't like coffee.
[20:39:49] <JamesNZ> water++
[20:39:49] <Bender> karma - water: 9
[20:41:10] <chromas> water++
[20:41:10] <Bender> karma - water: 10
[20:41:19] <crutchy> water-- # who knows what nasty chemicals they're putting in it /tinfoil
[20:41:19] <Bender> karma - water: 9
[20:41:31] <mrcoolbp> bitpay_subscriptions_rolling_in++
[20:41:31] <Bender> karma - bitpay_subscriptions_rolling_in: 1
[20:41:35] <chromas> we've got water in our water
[20:42:14] <crutchy> that's the worse chemical of all
[20:42:27] <mrcoolbp> dihydrogen-monoxide?
[20:42:38] <crutchy> takes over your whole body
[20:42:38] <JamesNZ> Should we replace it with coffee crutchy? :P
[20:42:46] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[20:42:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 919
[20:43:02] <chromas> we put dht in our h20
[20:45:01] <crutchy> i know they put flouride in our water supply "for the public good"... wouldn't be surprised if they put sedatives in there eventually "for the public good". its the perfect medium for drugging up the masses with whatever you want
[20:45:22] <chromas> why
[20:45:26] <chromas> we're already lethargic
[20:45:47] <crutchy> they already put them in your water supply long ago
[20:45:53] <chromas> "I'd be more apathetic if I weren't so lethargic"
[20:46:07] <Blackmoore> lithium++
[20:46:07] <Bender> karma - lithium: 1
[20:48:14] <crutchy> hmm actually they might be better drugging bottled water in america
[20:48:38] <chromas> the bottles
[20:48:47] <crutchy> i knew it :p
[20:49:18] <chromas> plastic made to disintegrate faster because the environment
[20:50:28] <crutchy> which means they really don't hold anything. the matrix is merely telling your brain that you're drinking water
[20:50:46] <chromas> we should run all our garbage through chippers and set it aside until we have robots to deal with it
[20:51:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How are you Productive? - http://sylnt.us - totally-not-cocaine
[20:51:20] <chromas> or star trek transporter technology
[20:51:39] <crutchy> there's always the garbage patches in the pacific and atlantic oceans... eventually they'll start selling real eastate out there
[20:52:10] <chromas> Why use the ocean when we have Utah?
[20:52:28] <chromas> or Florida. Ew
[20:52:30] <crutchy> bears are scary
[20:52:42] <crutchy> so are rednecks
[20:53:12] <chromas> see if we dump our garbage in Florida nobody would notice
[20:53:46] <crutchy> it would become a 'natural resource'
[20:53:48] <paulej72> Looks like I found the fix to the missing subscriber badges
[20:54:10] <crutchy> didn't realize they were lost
[20:54:40] <paulej72> someone just noticed today
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[20:54:53] <chromas> could have some fancier ones too, like a sheriff-looking badge for staff
[20:55:20] <paulej72> could, would be easy to set
[20:55:22] <chromas> maybe an animated gif for super subscribers that has a gleam shine across it sometimes
[20:55:45] <paulej72> now you are pushing it
[20:56:13] <chromas> it wouldn't spin or anything. It would look normal except for the occasional gleam
[20:56:32] <paulej72> but a animated gif that that would ahve like a 600s loop would be ok
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[20:57:30] <paulej72> now I just need to figure out when I should deploy
[20:58:52] <crutchy> no time like the present... and its raining outside so nobody will mind
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[21:05:32] <crutchy> could have a little skull n cross bones badge for trolls :p
[21:07:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> Florida? What?
[21:07:13] * AndyTheAbsurd lives in Floriduh
[21:07:47] <crutchy> miami is really part of cuba
[21:08:02] <mrcoolbp> that's true
[21:08:09] <mrcoolbp> ~define Miami
[21:08:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> Miami is full of stupid people
[21:08:28] <chromas> ~define Hotline Miami
[21:08:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> it's like a version of San Francisco where the average IQ dropped 25 points
[21:08:45] <crutchy> 404 bot not found
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[21:08:51] <mrcoolbp> ~help
[21:09:09] <crutchy> san fransisco has an iq?
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[21:09:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> people in san francisco have IQs
[21:09:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> they can be averaged
[21:09:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> people in Miami also have IQs which can also be averaged
[21:10:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> the difference is at least 25 points
[21:10:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> on a good day
[21:10:24] <crutchy> ugh brain make not good think
[21:11:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> then we'll send you to Miami, you'll fit right in.
[21:11:45] * crutchy wants to buy some garbage patch real estate
[21:12:01] <crutchy> with ocean views
[21:12:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> you know there's not really any significant solidity to the current garbage patch, right?
[21:12:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> it's like....just a patch of ocean where garbage is more common
[21:13:01] <crutchy> its slowly being developed
[21:13:22] <crutchy> need to get people to eat more takeaway
[21:13:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> but you're currently unlikely to spot even a single clump of stuff from a ship that's in the middle of it
[21:13:43] <mrcoolbp> actually there is trash island
[21:14:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, that one the guy in Mexico made deliberately out of old soda bottles
[21:14:38] <chromas> crutchy: that would make it less solid
[21:14:47] <crutchy> mrcoolbp, isn't that hawaii?
[21:14:55] * mrcoolbp is looking for it
[21:16:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> http://boingboing.net
[21:16:34] <crutchy> i'll know when to invest when i start seeing a circular patch of images around the pacific in google maps
[21:19:07] <JamesNZ> out_of_focus_shots--
[21:19:07] <Bender> karma - out_of_focus_shots: -1
[21:19:33] <crutchy> thats a funky idea
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[22:30:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Former Department of Defense Chief Expects '30 Year War' - http://sylnt.us - Peace-of-Westphalia
[22:33:04] <chromas> Bender: s/i/li/2/
[22:33:11] <chromas> Bender: s/i/li/2
[22:33:11] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Former Department of Defense Chief Expects '30 Year War' - http://sylnt.us - Peace-of-Westphallia
[22:33:24] <chromas> still got it wrong
[22:34:44] <Blackmoore> fine fine, we'll send them books and videos of Chiacgo in the 1920's and.. wait that was piece of the action..
[22:36:11] <Blackmoore> ok so we conceed checlosvokia to hitler and.. no that's Peace in our time..
[22:36:35] <Blackmoore> we send a buch of college age kids to africa?
[22:36:54] <Blackmoore> *shrug*
[22:39:53] <crutchy> i reckon that famous fortune teller dude might have been onto something
[22:40:25] <crutchy> the whole world is just begging for a massive world war
[22:40:59] <crutchy> by whole world i mean a very select bunch of plutocrats that control it
[22:41:28] <chromas> She was asking for it. Mother Earth, exposing her mellons and jewels and zebras
[22:41:47] <crutchy> and her garbage patch
[22:42:33] <chromas> Ooh, new (recycled) line of toys! Garbage Patch Kidz
[22:44:54] * arti has some cards
[22:45:02] <arti> the 'where are they now' kind
[22:45:10] <crutchy> nba?
[22:45:15] <crutchy> so 90's
[22:45:45] <crutchy> or is that cos during the 90's i went through the ages where nba is cool?
[22:46:49] * chromas will take a nerd card
[22:47:02] <chromas> Earning is too much work
[22:47:20] * crutchy bagses that dog with glasses
[22:48:50] <chromas> Mr Peabody?
[22:48:56] <crutchy> chromas, what was the netcraft bug that you squished?
[22:49:14] <crutchy> was it from when i posted a link and then netcraft died?
[22:49:21] <chromas> yeah
[22:49:33] <chromas> technically I didn't squish it; just went around it
[22:49:52] <crutchy> i tried with exec and it came up with 'Error Page'. dunno wtf was goin on there
[22:49:56] <chromas> oh wait yes I did
[22:50:20] <chromas> It thought the site was plaintext and the scraper for that subtracted the string length for some reason, making it look for the end before the beginning
[22:50:36] <crutchy> g'day mrcoolbp
[22:51:17] <mrcoolbp> g'day crutchy
[22:51:22] <mrcoolbp> sup with you?
[22:51:22] * chromas needs to start drinking so bad code can be blamed on it
[22:51:52] <crutchy> got some bug
[22:52:03] <crutchy> trying to squish with antibioticals
[22:52:16] <mrcoolbp> lots and lots of green tea and honey
[22:52:26] * crutchy sips his coffee
[22:53:11] <mrcoolbp> I steer towards tea when sickness is involved, feel like I can drink it in place of water, keeps the energy up and no coffee mouth
[22:53:20] <mrcoolbp> hope ya feel better sir
[22:53:37] <arti> crutchy wallows
[22:53:48] <crutchy> thanks matey. saw your wiki update popup in #wiki
[22:53:58] <mrcoolbp> hehe
[22:54:08] <mrcoolbp> yah I saw a comment you made today
[22:54:11] * mrcoolbp goes to find
[22:54:23] <chromas> arti: s/(w)/s\1/
[22:54:23] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <arti> crutchy swallows
[22:54:36] <crutchy> yeah i forgot to hit the AC check box :p
[22:54:42] * chromas is mr obvious
[22:54:55] <mrcoolbp> no AC on wiki, we disabled logged-out editing to combat spam
[22:55:16] <crutchy> oh yeah sorry thought you meant SN
[22:55:17] <mrcoolbp> oh yeah, good one about the podcast audio on youtube
[22:55:49] <arti> combat spam, spam eaten in theatres of war
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[22:55:56] <crutchy> just make sure whoeever does it screams into the microphone as loud as possible
[22:56:13] <arti> i like it when the mic is too close
[22:56:18] <arti> lots of p or h sounds
[22:56:19] * mrcoolbp pokes arti with a long stick
[22:56:25] * arti assumes the position
[22:56:41] <arti> oh, wait
[22:56:50] <mrcoolbp> 0.o
[22:57:10] <arti> how's it going mr cool
[22:57:35] <crutchy> arti's been to 'the homo barn'
[22:58:18] <crutchy> after the craperie
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[22:58:26] <mrcoolbp> arti: I'm doing better than the last time you saw me
[22:58:31] <mrcoolbp> how about you ?
[22:58:32] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[22:58:36] * arti pets ciri
[22:58:53] * mrcoolbp feeds ciri some of arti's treats
[22:58:59] <crutchy> ew
[22:59:05] <arti> well that's good to hear, i'm getting back into the swing of things
[22:59:25] <arti> got out of town for octoberfest over the weekend
[22:59:29] <mrcoolbp> cool
[22:59:43] * mrcoolbp is trying to become an accountant for SN and failing somewhate
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[23:00:57] <crutchy> ~define accountant
[23:01:00] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Accountant: Someone whos obviously making more than you
[23:01:08] <mrcoolbp> oh that's not true
[23:01:14] <mrcoolbp> in my case anyway = )
[23:01:20] <mrcoolbp> I made a little progress but gave up for today
[23:01:21] <crutchy> there you go. you not taking a big enough cut
[23:01:22] <arti> :)
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[23:01:27] <chromas> well if you were then you wouldn't be failing somewhate
[23:01:31] <arti> crutchy, advise the rabbis
[23:01:55] <mrcoolbp> chromas: also I'm nut gud at spelyng
[23:02:17] <mrcoolbp> I have many things I'm terrible at
[23:02:22] <chromas> You just need to findsomeone making more money, then they'll automatically be a better accountant
[23:02:24] <arti> i c wat u did there
[23:02:51] <arti> how about club them and then loot all, then fast travel to a vendor to offload the booty
[23:02:54] * crutchy goes to advise rabbits that if they want to be good accountants they need to take a bigger cut of his back lawn
[23:03:08] <arti> you'd so wear rabbit everything
[23:03:15] <arti> i'm surprised your car isn't furry
[23:03:26] <arti> we all know how aussies hunt for rabbits with snakes
[23:03:46] <crutchy> they make good hood ornaments... at 100 km/hr
[23:04:02] <crutchy> free paint job
[23:04:20] <crutchy> !no-sed
[23:04:23] <arti> should do a southpark episode, rabbits, snipers, red mist
[23:04:35] <arti> 12 Rabbits.
[23:04:36] <chromas> crutchy: s/d/djob/
[23:04:36] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <crutchy> !no-sedjob
[23:05:32] <crutchy> or one about snakes going into holes to get rabid
[23:06:07] * arti makes notes in his plots.txt
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[23:09:39] * mrcoolbp takes a break
[23:14:31] * crutchy offers mrcoolbp a lounge, with a craphole for additional lazy factor
[23:14:38] <crutchy> :D
[23:15:11] <crutchy> mrcoolbp++
[23:15:11] <Bender> karma - mrcoolbp: 33
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[23:17:01] <Blackmoore> http://www.artofmanliness.com
[23:17:18] <Blackmoore> that's actually decent advice
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[23:20:57] <crutchy> yeah
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[23:39:31] <silverly> Blackmoore, theartofmanliness is actually have fair good writing
[23:39:47] <silverly> s/fair/fairly
[23:39:47] * SedBot9000 offers selverly a /
[23:42:50] <silverly> >.>
[23:43:02] <Blackmoore> yes they do.
[23:45:17] <silverly> i have them and http://primermagazine.com
[23:45:19] <NetCraft> ^ 03Primer | Online Men's Magazine | Lifestyle of the Millennial Man ( http://www.primermagazine.com )
[23:45:36] <silverly> under my "lifestyle" feeds in rss
[23:45:52] <silverly> primer is bit spammy but sometimes has good stuff
[23:46:10] <silverly> its hard to find good lifestyle blogs that arent just clickbait
[23:51:43] <crutchy> silverly, s/lifestyle //
[23:51:43] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> <silverly> its hard to find good blogs that arent just clickbait
[23:55:50] <silverly> crunchy, haha true
[23:56:24] * silverly RIP modern day journalism; Here comes the clickbait overlords