#Soylent | Logs for 2014-09-27

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[00:01:05] <crutchy> even if the fbi coerces apple and google into not supplying phones with built-in encryption, there will soon be apps for that (if not already)
[00:01:26] <crutchy> well, maybe not apple (walled garden and all)
[00:03:49] <chromas> All the custom Android builds have encryption, though I've never seen it actually do anything
[00:04:08] <chromas> (probably 'cause I use unofficial builds)
[00:14:53] <crutchy> got this in my default host access log. never seen all hex before
[00:14:54] <crutchy> 66.241.168.69 - - [24/Sep/2014:12:10:21 +1000] "\x80w\x01\x03\x01" 403 202 "-" "-"
[00:15:16] <crutchy> dunno what the w was for
[00:16:34] <crutchy> seems to be a lof of (i guess chinese) trying to access baidu.com via open proxy too
[00:16:38] <crutchy> 222.186.128.54 - - [24/Sep/2014:12:24:49 +1000] "GET http://www.baidu.com HTTP/1.1" 403 370 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR 3.5.21022)"
[00:16:39] <monopoly> ^ 03百度一下，你就知道
[00:16:39] <monopoly> ^ 03百度一下，你就知道
[00:16:39] <monopoly> ^ 03百度一下，你就知道
[00:16:39] <monopoly> ^ 03百度一下，你就知道
[00:16:39] <monopoly> ^ 03百度一下，你就知道
[00:16:39] <monopoly> ^ 03百度一下，你就知道
[00:16:39] <monopoly> ^ 03百度一下，你就知道
[00:16:40] <monopoly> ^ 03百度一下，你就知道
[00:16:47] <crutchy> good ol' ie6 :p
[00:17:03] <crutchy> ooh
[00:17:09] <crutchy> sorry monopoly
[00:17:24] <monopoly> does my forehead feel warm?
[00:17:47] * monopoly requests a rectal thermometer.
[00:18:07] <crutchy> that was nothing compared to exec's debug channel fart yesterday
[00:18:38] <chromas> wtf I know I fixed that bug
[00:19:01] <crutchy> ~define-add channel fart, when a bot gets a bit too excited and takes a massive dump in a channel
[00:19:02] <exec> definition for term "channel fart" set to "when a bot gets a bit too excited and takes a massive dump in a channel"
[00:20:14] <crutchy> i think tmb mentioned something about increasing karma on dev. can't remember
[00:21:20] <chromas> What we need is experience points
[00:21:30] <chromas> and skill levels
[00:22:01] <chromas> "Month-Old Franks—the hotdogs with experience"
[00:29:20] <crutchy> i'm a level 5 monkeybutt
[00:30:26] * chromas drops his lv 2 mess of monopoly and crafts anew
[00:30:46] <crutchy> monopoly++
[00:30:46] <Bender> karma - monopoly: 10
[00:30:49] <crutchy> monopoly++
[00:30:49] <Bender> karma - monopoly: 11
[00:31:24] <Blackmoore> blackmoore smashes head on keyboard.
[00:31:40] <crutchy> you have typing on the brain?
[00:34:19] * juggs chuckles
[00:35:00] <crutchy> ooh mod points mwahahahaha!
[00:43:11] <crutchy> fuck. moderating is too hard. i hate reading on weekends
[00:44:50] <crutchy> ~suggest 'xkcd of the week' slashbox. perhaps start with random xkcd and adjust if an xkcd has been mentioned in a comment/story/wiki edit/journal/irc chat/etc
[00:45:02] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://sylnt.us
[00:45:19] <juggs> neat idea
[00:45:34] <n1> ^^
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[00:54:27] <chromas> archlinux++
[00:54:27] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 53
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[00:56:55] <chromas> wtf is this? "Password must be fewer than 17 characters"
[00:57:06] <juggs> on what?
[00:57:10] <chromas> android-- # encryption
[00:57:10] <Bender> karma - android: -1
[00:57:19] <SoyCow5511> HOLA
[00:57:23] <SoyCow5511> QUE TAL GENTE
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[00:59:49] <chromas> actually it's the lockscreen but it's required to encrypt
[00:59:58] * Ethanol-fueled sucks
[01:00:33] <Ethanol-fueled> man, Slashdot is a wasteland now. You guys are crushing it like a roach. Keep up the good work!
[01:00:58] <Ethanol-fueled> By the way, please let me know when you're gonna release a new feature before I go on a massive bender-inspired troll-off.
[01:01:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Last Sunday, I didn't regret the tirade, I regretted doing it right as you all released the beg-ometer on the front page!
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[01:04:25] <chromas> we need a banner on the front page with a macro shot of Ethanol-fueled's face: "Entertained? Give up the cash!"
[01:04:59] * chromas presses Encrypt on phone; looks like it's doing nothing
[01:06:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Chromas: https://firstlook.org
[01:07:04] <crutchy> if slashdot and soylent get their news from ars technica, where does ars technica get its news from?
[01:07:20] <Ethanol-fueled> the point is the discussions.
[01:07:30] <chromas> which is why we don't need summaries
[01:07:51] <Ethanol-fueled> that's a radical idea. So what are you proposing?
[01:08:21] <Ethanol-fueled> the submissions are the "human" touch which gives this site, and the site before it, broad appeal.
[01:08:43] <chromas> Post a link, slash can extract the summary metatag and show it
[01:08:57] <chromas> Well but nobody wants to write summaries
[01:09:00] <Ethanol-fueled> people bitch and moan, but my solution to that problem is to call them disinformation agents headed by a P.R. firm hired by DICE.
[01:09:02] <crutchy> we need more "ask soylent" stories
[01:09:09] <chromas> Notice how most are just quotes from the article
[01:09:29] <crutchy> ask soylent: will be dick fit inside a wombat's anus?
[01:09:34] <Ethanol-fueled> rally the people against a common enemy, Timothy the Jew, like Hitler did in the late '30's.
[01:09:53] <chromas> T—Timmeh!
[01:09:59] <crutchy> s/be/my/
[01:09:59] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> ask soylent: will my dick fit inside a wombat's anus?
[01:10:10] <crutchy> i can't even ask soylent proply
[01:10:18] * crutchy hangs head in shame
[01:10:24] <Ethanol-fueled> imply, not expicitly state, that Israel (and by extension Timothy and his corporate interests) are behind it.
[01:10:25] <chromas> Well now there's something we can work on. Let's get some government funcing going on
[01:10:39] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: isn't that generally the case?
[01:11:18] <Ethanol-fueled> then post the picture of Hillary clinton wringing her hands like the happy merchantess she is:
[01:11:39] <Ethanol-fueled> http://i.imgur.com
[01:12:02] <Ethanol-fueled> like Drudge Report (and other more offensive alternative media did) to suggest that she was in the hands of the scheming, plotting Jews.
[01:12:18] <crutchy> zomg! its an alien! kill it! kiiiilll iiiiiit!
[01:13:23] <Blackmoore> hey! i did something different yesterday.. i've never see a science story sumbitted as a noir
[01:15:25] <Ethanol-fueled> It's a good start, blackmoore, but it needs more racial slurs and uncomfortable facts
[01:15:32] <chromas> Yeah, we need to clone you, Blackmoore, for moar oc
[01:16:08] <Blackmoore> :P
[01:16:34] <chromas> noirmoar
[01:16:34] <Ethanol-fueled> for example, when discussing eminations and deformations of black holes, you should mention how women(holes) orgasm during rape and that women are twice as likely to become pregnant as a result of a rape than otherwise.
[01:17:05] <chromas> Nuh uh, the politicians said they reject the sperm
[01:17:21] <chromas> Career liars know biology, man
[01:17:37] <Blackmoore> next time I'll put a bit more into the fiction. gotta have the narrator at least shot at if not roughed up
[01:17:39] <Ethanol-fueled> you want to compel the audience, you want them to say they reject what is being written while clicking on its links over and over again and knead their dicks to it when their girlfriends and wives aren't looking,
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[01:18:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Blackmoore: even something as "dry" as Star Trek has regular phaser battles and of course this [SFW]:
[01:18:50] <Ethanol-fueled> http://farm9.static.flickr.com
[01:19:07] <chromas> We need two sites. This one can run for 'free' and the other can be full of SEO'd clickbait to generate revenue to power the good site
[01:19:26] <Blackmoore> and spam. hehe
[01:19:29] <crutchy> and put stories with chicks fully clothed but showing enough cleavage so as to leave little to the imagination
[01:19:45] <Blackmoore> wouldnt that be the original Fark?
[01:19:50] <Ethanol-fueled> 99% of Big Bang theory watch it for that chick.
[01:19:55] <crutchy> like that hot geek chick on youspewb
[01:19:58] <chromas> crutchy: you saw the pic on that trendnet page right?
[01:20:06] <crutchy> trendnet?
[01:20:08] <Ethanol-fueled> 99% of people who watch Big Bang Theory watch it for the chick
[01:20:22] <chromas> https://twitter.com
[01:20:23] <monopoly> ^ 03TRENDnet Exposed (@TRENDnetExposed) | Twitter
[01:20:34] <chromas> Click the woman bending over for full pic
[01:20:53] <crutchy> like this one: http://www.youtube.com
[01:20:54] <monopoly> ^ 03Linux Tutorial: The Power of the Linux Find Command - YouTube
[01:21:06] <crutchy> i'm sure everyone watches it to learn about the find command :p
[01:21:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Solar Powered Family Car has 500 Mile Range - http://sylnt.us - world-of-tomorrow
[01:21:19] <chromas> Why'd she create a new account?
[01:21:21] <Ethanol-fueled> What we need is to make this place into a full-fledged nerd porno site
[01:21:48] <Ethanol-fueled> where nerds (of age 18 or older, of course) can submit their own nerd-themed pornos./
[01:21:48] <ciri> hmmm thats a good question Ethanol-fueled
[01:22:02] <Ethanol-fueled> ciri, that was a statement, not a question.
[01:22:14] <Ethanol-fueled> because I said WHAT WHAT (in the butt)
[01:22:24] <crutchy> yeah she used to be nixie pixel
[01:22:34] <chromas> ciri could use punctuation detection
[01:23:16] <chromas> the directory she's looking in is /media/pr0n
[01:23:43] <Blackmoore> Ethanol-fueled: that would be myconfinedspace
[01:23:44] <chromas> xxx_big_whale_big_dork.avi
[01:24:27] <chromas> and she mispronounces GUI
[01:25:14] <Blackmoore> ALright - I am out of here! boze and bed here i go..
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[01:25:47] <crutchy> lol to see her pussy http://www.youtube.com
[01:25:48] <monopoly> ^ 03My First Time - YouTube
[01:27:45] <chromas> Disappointment ensuses
[01:36:00] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah, tomorrow and yesterday I'm having (have had) a woman 8/10ths as attractive but that I know I'm gonna fuck and she's also cool with fucked-up jokes.
[01:36:47] <Ethanol-fueled> not some attention-hungry famewhore.
[01:36:59] <Ethanol-fueled> anyway, I'm going to the bar now, have a good night!
[01:37:06] <crutchy> cheers buddy
[01:37:12] <Ethanol-fueled> cheers mate
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[02:05:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Barf, that was weak.
[02:05:41] <exec> SN funding has changed from $1,820 to $1,880
[02:05:53] <Ethanol-fueled> the favorite bartender who lets me kiss and touch her wasn't there.
[02:06:36] <Ethanol-fueled> here's a tip for the funding bar - seeing such a little percentage achieved is too discouraging.
[02:07:12] <Ethanol-fueled> it doesn't scare average joes into pitching in, it demotivates them in seeing a lost cause.
[02:07:44] <chromas> do the old arcade score trick and tack on a couple zeros
[02:08:21] <Ethanol-fueled> first thing that should have been done is lop off the lawyers' fees. expressing paid-so-far percentages as a whole-minus-lawyers' fees would be a lot more encouraging to laymen who want their dollar to go somewhere.
[02:08:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Jesus, lawyers fees are like half the cost.
[02:09:14] <crutchy> ooh we had a funding increase :p
[02:09:35] <Ethanol-fueled> (or express the lawyers' fees as a "bonus bar" wtih the promise to allocate a menial but special reward to the community if the goal is met.
[02:10:18] <chromas> We need a ~tell-devs function
[02:10:21] <Ethanol-fueled> that could be easily done as lawyers are reviled and some big handwavy thing could make a lot of fun out of the necessary evil tax once the basic needs are next.
[02:10:37] <chromas> so it tells tmb or pj or any dev next time they talk
[02:10:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> wha?
[02:10:51] <chromas> or ~suggest
[02:11:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard: don't listen to me, I'm just a retard :)
[02:11:27] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, I think the legal costs are a contingency figure. No doubt there are some around setting up the corp structure mind. ~shrug~
[02:11:29] <crutchy> there's a $tell command
[02:11:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> i wasn't, chromas pinged me
[02:11:47] <crutchy> $tell Bender i love you man!
[02:11:48] <chromas> yeah but it only $tells one person
[02:11:48] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[02:12:20] <Ethanol-fueled> My highly scientific research suggests that an average crazed binge is worth an average of 15 karma points :)
[02:12:30] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: dammit, if you have the fancy regexs how are we supposed to talk about you behind your back?
[02:12:34] <Ethanol-fueled> assuming "good" standing.
[02:12:53] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[02:13:55] <juggs> we shall refer to him as "the feathered one whose name must never be uttered"
[02:14:16] <chromas> probably highlights on "dev" too
[02:14:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> dev and tmb both, yeah
[02:15:01] <juggs> perl ruby python
[02:15:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> or devs rathger
[02:18:31] <Ethanol-fueled> you guys better be around when I have to do my "service learning class"
[02:18:33] <crutchy> ~bot new feathered_one
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[02:18:56] <chromas> Who are you servicing?
[02:19:00] <Ethanol-fueled> when I have to free dev work for a nonprofit as a requirement to graduate.
[02:19:06] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm in a CS program now.
[02:19:24] <crutchy> ooh software faggery
[02:19:57] <crutchy> we can just tab feathered_one now :p
[02:19:59] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: AKA you pay us to tell you less than what you already know in exchange for a piece of paper.
[02:20:04] <chromas> be warned, though: to use perl, you must be a smoker and be one with the regex
[02:20:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Ugh, PERl.
[02:20:23] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, i thought that's what all consultants do
[02:20:29] <chromas> Well unless you want to rewrite slash in something else
[02:20:32] <crutchy> take your watch and tell you the time
[02:21:08] <Ethanol-fueled> don't get me wrong, I would make an effort to know it better (as I deal with it at work already) but I hate Larry Wall and his obnoxiously N****R-rigged language.
[02:21:14] <Ethanol-fueled> rather, monstrosity.
[02:21:42] <chromas> Nhunter2R
[02:22:12] <Ethanol-fueled> PERL where I work is actually readable.
[02:22:47] <Ethanol-fueled> There are line breaks, comments, and things written in the least obnoxious manner possible. It must have been written before Python got big.
[02:22:52] <Ethanol-fueled> now we use both :(
[02:23:17] <crutchy> python programmers like playing with their snake
[02:23:33] <chromas> nothin' wrong with that
[02:24:08] <crutchy> i prefer my missus play with my snake
[02:24:36] <crutchy> now if only i could figure out how to make it happen :p
[02:24:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i prefer his missus play... ah nevermind
[02:25:01] <Ethanol-fueled> heeheehawhawhAW!
[02:25:01] <crutchy> minecraft?
[02:30:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Ahh, pot.
[02:30:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Pot rules.
[02:30:39] <Ethanol-fueled> pot++
[02:30:39] <Bender> karma - pot: 2
[02:30:44] <Ethanol-fueled> blat++
[02:30:44] <Bender> karma - blat: 2
[02:30:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Blat++
[02:30:49] <Bender> karma - blat: 3
[02:31:25] <Ethanol-fueled> drinking a drink and smoking a bowl after a hard day's work is like shooting a spoon of herelin.
[02:31:37] <paulej72> kettle++
[02:31:37] <Bender> karma - kettle: 1
[02:31:59] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, what's up boss?
[02:32:27] <paulej72> nothing much
[02:34:21] <crutchy> i like trains
[02:34:21] <exec> http://www.youtube.com
[02:40:46] <Ethanol-fueled> drink tey, pauley?
[02:40:58] <Ethanol-fueled> tea?
[02:44:30] <crutchy> i'm a wiki troll too :/
[02:44:46] <crutchy> at least i don't troll the main site that much
[02:45:30] <crutchy> even exec is a wiki troll
[02:46:24] <chromas> Do you have trollctl?
[02:47:32] <crutchy> yes. yes i do
[02:47:39] <crutchy> i called it exec :p
[02:48:18] <crutchy> maybe i should rename it trolld
[02:48:24] <Ethanol-fueled> I have no ctl, or self-control. I am like ANIMAL from the Muppet Babies, I am equipped with a diaper because I have no impulse control.
[02:49:03] <crutchy> pfft impulse is overrated. animals go straight to warp 9 :D
[02:49:16] * Ethanol-fueled shits his pants, pisses his drawers, flails arms whenever somebody changes the pitch of their voice
[02:49:41] <chromas> exec reload crutchy
[02:50:13] <crutchy> and grabs ass of nearest human-appearing object with no facial hair
[02:52:02] * Ethanol-fueled shits paints, pisses drawers, flails arms
[02:53:52] <Ethanol-fueled> YEAAAHHHHH
[02:54:02] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.youtube.com
[02:54:03] <monopoly> ^ 03Metallica - Battery (HD) - YouTube
[02:54:04] <juggs> what the hell have you been drinking that you are now shitting paint???
[02:54:13] <Ethanol-fueled> nothing.
[02:57:03] <juggs> if I was randomly shitting paints, I think I'd nip out and buy some canvasses from an art supplies place and decorate them. No doubt some fool art collector would pay a premium for such "unique work" :D
[03:03:04] <Ethanol-fueled> i am brain dead. Had a work happy hour and socked-off
[03:03:08] <Ethanol-fueled> blat++
[03:03:08] <Bender> karma - blat: 4
[03:04:54] <Ethanol-fueled> art, bahahah
[03:05:03] <Ethanol-fueled> art is for homosexuals.
[03:05:05] <crutchy> taking 'chroming' to whole new levels
[03:05:14] * chromas 's mouse is being homosexual
[03:05:28] <crutchy> is it trying to remove your paints?
[03:06:06] <chromas> keeps not working
[03:06:22] <chromas> I guess that makes it an uncle tom
[03:06:29] <chromas> reverse
[03:07:41] <crutchy> i'm using a laser mouse for my lappy. unfortunately it seems like other mouses are broken by comparison
[03:08:14] <chromas> this one keeps not sending data for some reason now
[03:09:22] <chromas> unable to enumerate USB device; not accepting address, error -62
[03:09:28] <chromas> well, even the error is negative
[03:09:52] <crutchy> systemctl start prozacd
[03:10:24] <chromas> that's not any of the 30 *ctls :(
[03:10:35] <chromas> people seem to like the abbrev
[03:11:01] <crutchy> /etc/init.d/prozac start
[03:11:10] <crutchy> ^good ol' sysvinit
[03:11:28] <chromas> no init.d plus why are things in /etc executable? That's just wrong
[03:11:47] <crutchy> they're just little bash scripts
[03:11:47] <Ethanol-fueled> ihttp://www.youtube.com
[03:12:01] <Ethanol-fueled> they hate you chromas.
[03:12:05] <chromas> yeah, etc is for configuration; they're doin' it wrong
[03:12:11] * chromas can't click link :(
[03:12:25] <crutchy> i dunno why they worked it like that though. i guess the way the scripts are arranged is part of the startup configuration
[03:12:31] <chromas> I think I have a rollerball mouse somewhere
[03:14:17] <chromas> or maybe I can get a gamepad thumbscitk to work as a mouse
[03:14:38] <juggs> more than likely
[03:14:39] <crutchy> ef's link started with an i... borked it for me too
[03:15:05] <crutchy> crutchyctl start lazyd
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[03:15:44] <crutchy> gotta go put up with my young bloke's other parents soon :(
[03:16:32] <chromas> I'm sorry to hear that, crutchy. Don't forget to bring a towel!
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[03:18:35] <chromas> keyboard navigation in firefox/palemoon sucks
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[03:23:08] <crutchy> ~suggest
[03:23:09] <exec> syntax: ~suggest <suggestion>
[03:23:09] <exec> http://sylnt.us
[03:23:16] <crutchy> that's betterer
[03:23:32] <crutchy> now i can jump to wiki page without thinking much
[03:24:19] * chromas remembers drawing tablet setting right next to the mouse; appies palm to face
[03:24:25] <chromas> sitting
[03:24:44] <crutchy> ooh drawing tablet?!
[03:24:54] <chromas> yeah, I can use it as a mouse
[03:25:05] <chromas> but it sucks with two screens
[03:25:10] <crutchy> for CAD usually?
[03:25:21] <chromas> nah, dinking around
[03:25:37] <chromas> pretty awesome for masking photos and stuff
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[03:26:35] <crutchy> ~gday Ethanol-fueled
[03:26:36] <exec> * crutchy fanatically tosses a bathtub of bewb to Ethanol-fueled
[03:26:55] <crutchy> that was abstract
[03:27:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Hold on...
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[03:30:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Don't Panic! - http://sylnt.us - Heart-of-Gold
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[04:03:36] <crutchy_> coffee++
[04:03:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 857
[04:04:22] <chromas> Must be crutchy@work
[04:05:06] <crutchy_> crutchy@outside
[04:05:24] * chromas doesn't understand the concept
[04:06:47] * juggs proffers chromas vitamin D supplements
[04:07:35] * chromas sniffs, takes two
[04:10:38] <juggs> Probably best. AIUI we don't absorb vit D particularly well that way - best just to get some sunlight. But of course that immediately kills us with skin cancer so we lather up with high SPF lotions.
[04:11:39] <chromas> put some other animals out in the sun, extract the D they make
[04:11:44] <chromas> their tenacious d
[04:14:59] <crutchy_> it is quite nice weather today
[04:15:07] <crutchy_> ~weather
[04:15:07] <exec> 0
[04:15:20] <crutchy_> oky doky
[04:15:36] <chromas> You have no weathers
[04:15:44] <crutchy_> ~weather rosedale vic aus
[04:15:45] <exec> Weather for Rosedale VIC, Australia - currrently 67°F, overcast, wind SW at 7 mph, humidity 41% - Saturday partly cloudy (70°F, 52°F), Sunday clear (82°F, 52°F), Monday clear (75°F, 49°F), Tuesday chance of showers (73°F, 46°F) - source: Google
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[04:18:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Had to put the smack down on the Brown Menace tonight.
[04:18:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Jesus. you try not to be racist and what do you get.
[04:19:39] <Ethanol-fueled> man, it' seasy to get along with somebody who doesn't know what you do. But the Brown Meanace are like infants.
[04:19:48] <crutchy_> brown menace?
[04:20:03] <crutchy_> did you have diarrohea?
[04:20:12] <Ethanol-fueled> they'll come up to you and kick you in the shins and call you "racist" when you tell them, "please be quiet, it's late and I'm trying to sleep"
[04:21:16] <Ethanol-fueled> fucking scum.
[04:21:58] <crutchy_> you gotta tell them in a language they understand
[04:22:00] <chromas> exec doesn't know, either
[04:22:09] <Ethanol-fueled> hoping that the way I emasculated him and his friends, "telling them 'you're all a bunch of phoney-macho faggots'" in Spanish was enough to give them cause to leave me alone.
[04:22:42] <Ethanol-fueled> but the Brown Menace doesn't learn like that. they act in real life, every day, how I acted on SN here last sunday.
[04:22:53] <Ethanol-fueled> infants with no self-control.
[04:23:03] <crutchy_> they prolly understand chitty chitty bang bang
[04:23:03] <juggs> ugh, have we been invaded by SEO click bait types? How does that story on paracetamol warrant tenuously linking to to the bash flaw?
[04:24:01] <crutchy_> cos its a virus now apparently so we all need to drug ourselfs up with viagra
[04:28:41] * chromas doesn't see such a link on sn
[04:29:55] <juggs> chromas, not a clickie link. https://soylentnews.org "In the same guise as the BASH vulnerability, what other commonly 'believed to be safe things' are likely to cause problems down the track?"
[04:29:56] <monopoly> ^ 04SN article 03 Paracetamol Linked to ADHD 04(21 comments)
[04:30:19] <chromas> ah
[04:30:37] <chromas> you expect me to read the summaries? :D
[04:30:54] <juggs> That's SEO magic. Stuff bash in the text - "bash" peaks as a search term - the unrelated article rises in the ranks.
[04:31:18] <juggs> ~shrug~ such is the www
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[04:53:34] <ethanol-fueled> grrrrrrr
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[05:13:05] <crutchy_> sun--
[05:13:05] <Bender> karma - sun: -1
[05:32:48] <juggs> sleep++
[05:32:48] <Bender> karma - sleep: 3
[05:32:59] <juggs> mad_dreams++
[05:32:59] <Bender> karma - mad_dreams: 1
[05:40:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Atmosphere’s Detergent - http://sylnt.us - spin-cycle
[06:26:36] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:26:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 858
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[06:30:23] <swiss> coffee--
[06:30:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 857
[06:30:29] <swiss> friggin druggies
[06:32:00] <chromas> tea-- # friggin' druggies
[06:32:00] <Bender> karma - tea: 57
[06:32:47] <swiss> lol
[06:32:57] <swiss> agreed
[06:33:03] <swiss> water++
[06:33:03] <Bender> karma - water: 7
[06:33:07] <chromas> water++
[06:33:07] <Bender> karma - water: 8
[06:33:38] <crutchy> red_cordial++
[06:33:38] <Bender> karma - red_cordial: 1
[06:34:20] <chromas> I used to have a straw in my water sometimes but I figured out it was making my mouth taste weird. Must've been being environment friendly in my cup
[06:35:07] * chromas looks up red cordial; third image is a magenta pony
[06:35:26] <crutchy> ~define red cordial
[06:35:31] <chromas> I thought it was a wine
[06:35:40] <exec> [stoacademy] 3red cordial: red matter - A substance that can form a black hole when it is ignited.
[06:35:51] <crutchy> dumbot
[06:36:26] <chromas> +wiktionary, opendict and fortune
[06:36:54] <crutchy> i think its got wiktionary, but maybe doesn;t work or something
[06:37:15] <crutchy> you're free to add them ;P
[06:37:45] <chromas> arch has many a fortune file package, including Black Addr, Archer and My Little Pony : Friendship is Magic
[06:38:32] <swiss> http://bofh.veryoblivio.us
[06:38:32] <monopoly> ^ 03BOFH Excuse Generator
[06:38:48] <swiss> that's just fortune
[06:41:10] <chromas> lol
[06:41:19] <chromas> The monitor needs another box of pixels
[06:41:23] <chromas> ciri: lol
[06:41:48] <chromas> cirictl laugh with me; I need validation
[06:46:01] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:46:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 856
[06:46:03] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:46:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 855
[06:46:04] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:46:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 854
[06:46:05] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:46:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 853
[06:46:06] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:46:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 852
[06:46:07] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:46:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 851
[06:46:08] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:46:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 850
[06:50:08] * monopoly suspects JamesNZ is a bot
[06:53:14] <crutchy> ~bot new drut
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[06:53:55] * JamesNZ flaunts monopoly's own bottiness in his face
[06:56:04] * systemd takes over flauntd
[06:56:37] <crutchy> ~bot say drut quit
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[06:56:44] <crutchy> ~ps
[06:56:44] <exec> no child processes currently running
[07:34:09] <crutchy> weekend quiet
[07:34:52] <chromas> coffee++ # to spice it up in here
[07:34:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 851
[07:35:16] <crutchy> need a weekend bot
[07:35:41] <crutchy> need irciv too
[07:35:56] <crutchy> some bonehead wont finish it
[07:37:21] <crutchy> maybe something like aiwarz
[07:37:23] <chromas> I've just been so busy lately
[07:37:29] * systemd requisitions irc abilities
[07:37:46] * systemd irciv
[07:41:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Shape-memory Alloy May Be Key to Skintight Spacesuit - http://sylnt.us - tailor-made
[07:46:00] <chromas> from the freeze-it-heat-it-fight-metal-gear dept
[07:47:04] <Konomi> new systemd service: kitchensinkd
[07:47:06] <Konomi> sorry I had to
[07:48:41] <chromas> http://kde-apps.org
[07:50:16] <chromas> systemd is the text editor that emacs is missing
[07:53:55] <crutchy> if only moses saw the burning bush in low earth orbit instead of saudi arabia, or was it egypt
[07:54:41] <crutchy> hmm egypt i guess
[07:56:03] <chromas> some place that sucks to live, anyhow
[07:56:52] <chromas> it used to be full of greenery until Jesus sent down his only meteor to wipe out the sinful dinosaurs
[08:01:09] <crutchy> blasphemous fool! it was the aliens!
[08:01:51] <crutchy> with some help from tom cruise
[08:02:22] <chromas> jesus was half-alien
[08:02:34] <crutchy> they killed jfk too
[08:02:59] <crutchy> tom hanks is jebus
[08:03:49] <crutchy> mel gibson is the antifreeze
[08:04:07] <crutchy> i mean the antichrist
[08:05:56] * crutchy wonders if there is another super secret soylentnews site where all the cool people who don't talk here much any more have gone
[08:06:34] <chromas> the freenode channels are still around, slightly occupied; nobody talks though
[08:07:12] <crutchy> or maybe irc is like sex... only so many can last the distance and suffer premature ejectulation
[08:07:42] <chromas> we do have a lot missing :(
[08:08:51] <crutchy> even a lot of the older staff guys are much quieter nowadays
[08:09:02] <crutchy> s/older/orginal/
[08:09:03] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> even a lot of the orginal staff guys are much quieter nowadays
[08:09:19] * swiss makes noise
[08:12:20] <crutchy> poutine-- # for old times sake
[08:12:20] <Bender> karma - poutine: -356
[08:12:39] <crutchy> bacon++
[08:12:39] <Bender> karma - bacon: 258
[08:13:08] <crutchy> !whodown poutine
[08:13:08] <Bender> downers of poutine are: kobach: -112, crutchy: -36, xlefay: -23, FoobarBazbot_: -19, FatPhil: -14, stderr: -13, andrew: -12, mrcoolbp: -11, Khyber: -11, mattie_p: -11, FoobarBazbot: -10, SoylentMUD: -9, swiss: -9, Ethanol-fueled: -8, pbnjoe: -7, drcoolbp: -7, chromas: -6, paulej72: -6, stdhell: -4, dx3bydt3: -4, FunPika: -3, MrBluze: -3, arti: -3, amblivious: -3, TheMightyBuzzard: - 1 more
[08:13:42] <crutchy> mattie_p doesnt drop by much any more
[08:14:37] <crutchy> !whoup bacon
[08:14:37] <Bender> uppers of bacon are: kobach: 63, stderr: 46, crutchy: 41, xlefay: 18, mattie_p: 14, Blackmoore: 13, xyzzyyzzyx: 9, Alberto: 8, juggs: 8, pbnjoe: 5, MrBluze: 5, chromas: 3, stdhell: 3, Marneus68: 3, aqu4: 2, TheMightyBuzzard: 2, MrBluze_Cmd: 2, Konomi: 2, Bytram: 2, FoobarBazbot: 2, swiss: 2, SpallsHurgenson: 1, Mattiep: 1, paulej72_afk: 1, FatPhil: 1, hax0rz: 1, keick: - 1 more
[08:20:17] <chromas> !more
[08:20:17] <Bender> 1, paulej72: 1, useless: 1, Ethanol-fueled: 1, sea: 1, martyb: 1, exec: 1, AndyTheAbsurd: 1, SN: 1, n1: 1, MrBluze|zzz: 1, pbnjoe|afk: 1
[08:22:44] <chromas> !whodown dogfart
[08:22:44] <Bender> downers of dogfart are: chromas: -3
[08:23:01] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[08:23:01] <Bender> karma - fedora: 22
[08:27:28] <crutchy> aww poor dogfart
[08:27:49] <JamesNZ> ~gday chromas and crutchy
[08:27:50] <exec> * JamesNZ spontaneously poops a wad of bacon for chromas and crutchy
[08:28:07] <crutchy> yummo
[08:28:55] <crutchy> anyone who can poop bacon must be our lord and savor
[08:29:11] <crutchy> a/or/ar/
[08:29:14] * JamesNZ grins at the pun
[08:29:44] <crutchy> damn a key being so close to s key
[08:30:13] <JamesNZ> Darn all the keys being so close to each other :P
[08:30:38] <chromas> ~g'day aqu4
[08:30:39] <exec> * chromas surreptitiously offers a wine flute of Debian to aqu4
[08:41:37] <crutchy> ~submit http://www.emirates247.com
[08:41:47] <crutchy> need that scripty
[08:42:31] <crutchy> http://www.emirates247.com
[08:43:52] <chromas> ~define Dh
[08:43:54] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3dh: dear husband
[08:44:08] <chromas> ~next-def
[08:45:51] <crutchy> i have nfi what that site was. something related to dubai
[08:46:30] <chromas> Dh—Delhi Dollars
[08:47:25] <chromas> oh, Dirhams
[08:47:36] <chromas> Not that it matters; 0 doesn't need a unit
[08:53:10] <crutchy> or scale
[08:53:28] <crutchy> or vegetables
[09:00:12] <chromas> Does emacs have an irc extension? Maybe we could get RMS in here
[09:00:24] <chromas> maybe he's already here secretly
[09:08:27] <crutchy> !whoup toe_cheese
[09:08:27] <Bender> nobody upped toe_cheese yet
[09:08:33] <crutchy> nope i guess not
[09:09:34] * crutchy wonders if its possible to use telnet as an irc client
[09:09:43] <crutchy> i think it would work
[09:10:13] <crutchy> would have to do full messages though
[09:12:21] <crutchy> http://edition.cnn.com
[09:12:23] <chromas> need an ii-like client that just has i/o pipes and you have to write the messages yourself
[09:12:34] <crutchy> sic?
[09:12:36] <chromas> maybe that's what its 'little brother' thing is
[09:12:39] <chromas> yeah
[09:12:49] <chromas> but I don't remember the site mentioning how to use it
[09:13:02] <chromas> docs are for wimps
[09:13:15] <crutchy> sudo apt-get install sic
[09:13:18] <crutchy> ^ no joke
[09:13:41] <crutchy> suckless-tools.org or something like that
[09:13:45] <chromas> hey it works, even on arch :D
[09:18:26] <chromas> nope; even sic's too complex
[09:18:47] <chromas> actually, what we need is a generic socket-to-pipe adapter
[09:21:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Creationist Propaganda Taught as Science in UK Schools - http://sylnt.us - but-it's-traditional
[09:22:49] <crutchy> php's fsockopen is about as generic as i get
[09:23:11] <chromas> well there you got
[09:23:21] <chromas> s/t//2
[09:23:21] <SedBot9000> <chromas> well there you go
[09:23:32] <crutchy> it sort of treats like a pipe
[09:23:49] <chromas> Take a host/port as parameters, connect a socket and two pipes and put them into epoll
[09:23:50] <crutchy> or resource or whatever
[09:24:00] <crutchy> epoll?
[09:24:10] <chromas> for polling descriptors
[09:24:43] <crutchy> dunno. i never used that
[09:24:58] <chromas> then you don't have to poll each one; just call epoll's whatever function and it'll tell you which ones are ready for i/o
[09:26:25] <chromas> hotplugging ps/2 mouse still doesn't work. What is this, the middle ages?
[09:27:53] <crutchy> i think there's prolly a way of doing that in php. can't remember though
[09:32:52] <crutchy> hmm american history is interesting
[09:33:19] <crutchy> oklahoma was an american indian reservation
[09:33:24] <crutchy> apparently
[09:34:16] * crutchy likes those wikipedia thingys with maps and routes etc on them
[09:34:18] <crutchy> http://upload.wikimedia.org
[09:36:59] <chromas> gis++
[09:36:59] <Bender> karma - gis: 1
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[09:43:12] <chromas> Oh, quick! Fedora--
[10:12:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:12:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 852
[10:22:26] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:22:26] <Bender> karma - coffee: 853
[10:23:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++ Damn skippy
[10:23:25] <Bender> karma - coffee: 854
[10:23:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> three hours sleep, i really need to work on this insomnia
[10:28:41] <chromas> Ask soylent: is there a correlation between insomnia and perl development?
[10:30:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't think so. prolly insomnia and stress. stupid bash bug
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[10:57:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> fishing++
[10:57:22] <Bender> karma - fishing: 9
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[11:10:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Harvard Researchers Take Aim at Shellshock-like Woes with New Scripting Language - http://sylnt.us - shill-adds-value
[11:13:57] <chromas> from the we-already-have-plenty-of-scripting-languages,-the-problem-is-ubiquity dept
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[11:54:50] <crutchy> php is ubiquitous
[11:54:53] <crutchy> php++\
[11:54:56] <crutchy> oops
[11:55:15] <crutchy> too bad my typing ability isn't
[11:57:14] <crutchy> 16 comments in past 3 and a half hours
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[12:22:35] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:22:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 855
[12:23:50] <crutchy> coffee++
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[12:23:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 856
[12:33:38] <chromas> coffee++ killed his internets
[12:33:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 857
[12:36:44] <chromas> low_resolution_balled_mouse--
[12:36:44] <Bender> karma - low_resolution_balled_mouse: -1
[12:55:47] <ar> coffee--
[12:55:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 856
[12:55:49] <ar> coffee--
[12:55:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 855
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[13:01:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Your Medical Record is Worth More to Hackers than Your Credit Card - http://sylnt.us - low-security-hospitals
[13:04:00] <Konomi> if anyone wants a nice comprehensive test for the bash bug
[13:04:06] <Konomi> a='() { :;}; echo CVE-2014-6271 FAIL' b='() { (a)=>\' bash -c '/dev/stdout echo CVE-2014-7169 FAIL||echo CVE-2014-7169 OK;a||echo CVE-2014-6271 OK' 2>/dev/null
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[13:06:17] <rand> 2 OKs -- thanks Konomi
[13:06:19] <ciri> 3
[13:06:37] <chromas> most of those don't work on fish
[13:06:46] <Konomi> fish doesn't have the bug so...
[13:06:47] <chromas> but I also get 2 OKs from bash
[13:06:55] <chromas> yeah but bash is still installed
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[13:07:03] <Konomi> run bash then to test ;p
[13:07:28] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[13:07:28] <monopoly> ^ 03ZX Keyboard walkthrough - YouTube
[13:07:42] <chromas> ooh
[13:07:50] <chromas> got a fail on the suse box
[13:08:24] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[13:08:25] <monopoly> ^ 03Brian testing the ZX Keyboard - YouTube
[13:08:59] <Konomi> stable debian passes the tests
[13:09:13] <Konomi> testing fails the second
[13:09:15] <Konomi> but if you pin just do
[13:09:17] <chromas> doing an update; repo refresh be slow
[13:09:22] <Konomi> sudo aptitude -t unstable safe-upgrade bash
[13:09:24] <Konomi> and it'll pass
[13:10:11] <chromas> sudo zypper up fixed it
[13:10:14] <chromas> Konomi++
[13:10:14] <Bender> karma - konomi: 20
[13:10:32] <chromas> ^ that would be a lot higher but you don't say much ;)
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[13:10:59] <Konomi> I'm a quiet achiever
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[13:14:23] * chromas wonders why people in the eastern hemisphere say "zed" but don't go phonetic on any other similar-sounding letters
[13:24:10] <Konomi> I say Z
[13:24:13] <Konomi> well zee
[13:24:24] <Konomi> don't care what people think is right here for it
[13:24:36] <Konomi> same way I don't use gaol even though it's the correct australian english for jail
[13:24:44] <Konomi> the second makes way more sense than the first so I use that
[13:24:54] <Konomi> and if they don't like it they can shove it *pout*
[13:25:32] <chromas> aussies pronounce the j in jail as in grab or gif?
[13:25:43] <Konomi> everyone still says jail
[13:25:51] <Konomi> they just use the retarded spelling don't ask me why
[13:25:54] <chromas> even though gif is properly pronounced jif :D
[13:26:04] <Konomi> I'm all for changing words that make no sense
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[13:26:37] <prospectacle> evening
[13:27:24] <systemd> hey, prospectacle
[13:28:37] <prospectacle> returned a bunch of dvds to the library yesterday. You have to press one against the return slot before it will open and let you return them. But put a bunch in at once when it was open.
[13:28:46] <prospectacle> Then realised today one of them was from the video store.
[13:29:04] <prospectacle> lol
[13:29:04] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[13:29:06] <chromas> whoops
[13:29:26] <prospectacle> ciri I'm not gonna minus you for that one, even a stopped clock is right somtimes
[13:29:34] <chromas> they should scan as they slide into the slot, like those bottle machines
[13:29:47] <prospectacle> what bottle machines?
[13:30:23] <chromas> in places where drink containers have a deposit, there are machines you poke the bottles or cans into
[13:30:32] <prospectacle> don't know why I said "yesterday" it was several days ago. Anyway, it's not important
[13:30:35] <chromas> they crush the containers and print a receipt
[13:30:39] <prospectacle> cool
[13:31:04] <chromas> if the store doesn't sell something it rejects the container
[13:31:26] <prospectacle> pretty clever. So it gives you money at the end for the all the valid things you put in?
[13:32:36] <chromas> a receipt, then you take it into the store and apply it to your purchase (or maybe get cash). They limit to $10 or something per receipt
[13:33:38] <prospectacle> sounds like a pretty good system. They could do that for phones
[13:33:56] * prospectacle has about 5 old phones in various states of repair in a drawer
[13:34:50] <chromas> There are recycular programs for those; in my experience phones (at least subsidised ones) come with a bag you can put it into and mail it
[13:35:57] <prospectacle> yeah a lot of places have bins you can recycle them, but I want money dammit!
[13:36:14] <n1> don't we all?
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[13:43:07] <n1> ¬_¬
[13:43:31] <prospectacle> stupid router
[13:45:27] <n1> stupid everything
[13:45:36] * n1 feels like ranting
[13:45:36] <prospectacle> yeah everything is the worst
[13:46:11] <prospectacle> has anyone seen the tv adaptation of "bleak house" Charles Dance is possibly scarier in this as Tulkinghorne as he is as Tywin Lannister
[14:08:59] <n1> seems like theres been a few tv adaptations
[14:09:17] <prospectacle> yes, probably, this is 2005. It's all on dailymotion by the looks of it
[14:09:53] <n1> wikipedia suggests the BBC has made 3 adaptations, 2005 being the most recent
[14:10:18] <n1> 1959 and 1985 being the other years adaptations were broadcast
[14:11:05] <n1> dailmotion good for something? :o
[14:11:06] <prospectacle> i found out about this one because it got 93% on metacritic, which is no easy task
[14:11:50] <n1> indeed
[14:12:30] <prospectacle> you wouldn't think gillian anderson can pull of an english aristocrat with a dark secret but somehow it works
[14:13:04] <n1> damn those talented actors!
[14:13:57] <n1> seems to be a lot more of that going on these days, british and american actors swapping roles.
[14:14:27] <prospectacle> true, sometimes with comical results. Sometimes so good you don't realise unless you know the actor
[14:16:11] <n1> this is probably a bias of mine, but i've been very impressed by the british actors playing american, but being from the UK, it's probably more obvious to me when it's the other way around
[14:17:47] <n1> Dan Stevens in The Guest being the best most recent example of a brit playing an american.
[14:17:59] <prospectacle> yeah i feel the same about aussies in hollywood. mostly they seem to do well but perhaps an american would find their attempts at an accent grating. It's usually a trainwreck when americans (or pretty much anyone else) try to sound australian.
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[14:19:03] <prospectacle> I haven't seen the guest is it good?
[14:19:20] <n1> just need to spend some time over there, i spent the majority of a year in aus and picked up the accent in that short time
[14:19:32] <n1> i havn't seen it, but it's been very well received
[14:20:19] <n1> "The Guest has received critical acclaim by both critics and audiences."
[14:20:44] <n1> "As of September 2014, the film has a 94% score on Rotten Tomatoes based on 62 reviews and a score of 77 on Metacritic."
[14:20:57] <prospectacle> nice
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[14:22:00] <n1> i'm usually very slow to watching things, a snob of sorts, or have very specific tastes and expectations when it comes to movies i'll watch.
[14:24:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> you know I didn't remember whether or not I'd submitted that one
[14:24:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> guess I did though
[14:24:29] <prospectacle> oh he's the guy from downton abbey. He looks so different in the poster i didn't recognise him.
[14:24:42] <prospectacle> anytheabsurd, maybe you just thought it very loudly
[14:24:59] <n1> prospectacle, indeed - he's apparently very good in it, totally different from the role you're used to seeing him in.
[14:25:13] <n1> AndyTheAbsurd, you could always check on your profile page ;)
[14:25:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> n1: I just reloaded the soylentnews front page to check if my name was on it or not. It is.
[14:27:00] <prospectacle> Is it illegal to drink wine out of a stein, because, it's very convenient
[14:27:31] <n1> "There’s a perfect-looking sphere sitting proudly on a flat rock surface. It’s dusty, but under that dust it appears a little darker than the surrounding rock." got me curious
[14:27:57] <prospectacle> ooh a space orb. Very valuable, those
[14:27:58] <n1> prospectacle, if it's illegal then you are obligated to break such unjust laws
[14:28:12] <prospectacle> that's the spirit
[14:29:17] <n1> now i want an alcoholic beverage
[14:29:29] <prospectacle> sorry
[14:31:07] <n1> wouldnt be a problem if i had a beverage to drink, and some food to go with it
[14:31:46] <n1> but alas, i do not, so a smoke will have to do.
[14:42:53] <n1> "Anil Jain, Michigan State University professor, is developing a fingerprint-based recognition method to track vaccination schedules for infants and toddlers, which will increase immunization coverage and save lives."
[14:43:35] <n1> "Solving the puzzle of fingerprinting young children will have far-reaching implications beyond health care, including the development of civil registries, government benefits' tracking and education recordkeeping," Thomas said.
[14:58:27] <prospectacle> scary, biometrics from birth
[14:58:32] <prospectacle> probably inevitable, though
[14:59:24] <n1> i agree, i was surprised to see the statement at the end of the article though
[14:59:37] <n1> from the people funding the research
[15:01:05] <prospectacle> maybe it's a warning dressed as a selling point.
[15:01:21] <n1> thats part of feature creep, i would have thought. expand the uses once people get used to it for tracking vaccinations.
[15:01:33] <prospectacle> as in "These new bullets have benefits way beyond the battle field, they could be used for self defense, or riot control"
[15:01:35] <n1> rather than suggest it could be used for everything
[15:02:36] <n1> wont have the "papers, please" debate anymore if everything goes biometrics
[15:03:00] <prospectacle> thing is, biometrics are great, in some ways. Could do away with having twenty passwords
[15:04:02] <prospectacle> on the other hand, getting scanned everywhere
[15:04:17] <n1> they have their purposes, i have installed biometric access control and will continue to where appropriate
[15:04:36] <n1> but thats not to say i want it in 'public' areas
[15:05:13] <prospectacle> imagine if putting your pin in the atm would read your finger at the same time. no card.
[15:05:18] <prospectacle> that could be cool
[15:05:37] <prospectacle> of course if someone steals your account info you can't get a new card, as it were
[15:05:49] <n1> if it hasnt started already, luxury apartment developments will have biometrics soon
[15:06:50] <n1> i dont think we really need more security on pin numbers
[15:07:57] <n1> if the bank systems to authenticate actually work, its not that big of a deal, more characters wouldnt be a bad idea though.
[15:08:37] <n1> and at that point, we're probably not going to be dealing with ATM's at all
[15:08:52] <prospectacle> maybe you could increase security by salting with the time, then at the other end it checks against ar ange of times (Say within 20 seconds of when it received the biometrically-based code), so no one can reuse that code once 20 seconds have passed.
[15:09:15] <prospectacle> i don't mean for ATMs I mean like a fingerprint scanner on your computer for banking or whatever
[15:09:27] <n1> they already do that i think
[15:09:36] <n1> i'm sure i saw that, a fingerprint for your online banking
[15:09:45] <prospectacle> oh ok, good.
[15:10:08] <prospectacle> I did mean for atms for the first thing, just to clarify. but for the salting I was thinking more generally.
[15:10:27] <prospectacle> e.g. if someone steals your fingerprint "Code" then they don't need your fingers, they can just send the code from their computer, pretending it came from someone's fingers.
[15:10:33] <n1> http://www.bbc.co.uk
[15:10:33] <prospectacle> but if you salt with tthe time maybe it can get around that.
[15:10:35] <monopoly> ^ 03BBC News - Bank customers to sign in with 'finger vein' technology
[15:11:19] <n1> "The new finger vein technique has been pioneered by the Japanese firm Hitachi. It is already installed in cash machines in Japan and Poland, allowing people to withdraw money without using a card or PIN."
[15:11:31] <prospectacle> cool
[15:11:36] <n1> welcome to the future!
[15:11:44] <prospectacle> like back to the future
[15:13:50] <n1> i'd rather not be skeptical of these new technologies which should be good things
[15:15:06] <prospectacle> i'm caustiously optimistic, but always skeptical
[15:15:38] <prospectacle> i do have too many passwords at present, so something has to change
[15:15:57] <n1> yes
[15:16:15] <n1> there are impossible numbers of different passwords right now for everyone i think
[15:16:19] <prospectacle> maybe I should just write them in a book, I mean if someone is going to break in and go through all my stuff they're probably willing to beat my passwords out of me too. I'd rather they just take the book in that case and I can try to change them before they use them.
[15:17:16] <n1> if someone wants to that badly, there's not much you can do
[15:17:22] <prospectacle> that's right
[15:19:08] <n1> i wish people wouldnt insist on having windows and things other than concrete and steel for the roof, but they do.
[15:19:53] <n1> the only logical thing i can see is a physical safe for the book of passwords
[15:20:58] <prospectacle> i guess you could just write down master password for an encrypted password file. and keep lots of copies of said file all over the place.
[15:21:27] <prospectacle> the master password could be somewhat obfuscated so if it's stolen you've got a little bit of time to change things before they figure it out.
[15:21:43] <prospectacle> actually that sounds pretty good I'm gonna do that
[15:22:44] <n1> hmmmm
[15:27:30] <Landon> I do believe
[15:27:38] <Landon> that I got some spam to my @soylentnews addresss
[15:27:57] <prospectacle> wasn't me
[15:28:13] <Landon> anyone here named 최종락 then?
[15:28:23] * Landon looks around, gun in hand
[15:28:57] <prospectacle> tv and movies are starting to get good at showing electronic communications on screen. Starting.
[15:29:37] <prospectacle> My favourite is when the key points of the content are overlaid on the screen with no (ie transparent) background, so you can still see the rest of the scene as normal.
[15:31:03] <prospectacle> e.g. this chat would only show the text, the background would be the footage of whoever is typing or reading
[15:36:40] <n1> having video calling has been very good for movies and such
[15:36:57] <prospectacle> yeah it used to be only on star trek and such
[15:37:33] <n1> although from the first phones that could do it, people on screen used it way more than actual people.
[15:38:09] <n1> the cameras are usually pretty decent too heh
[15:38:16] <prospectacle> true i hate video calling.
[15:39:15] <prospectacle> i mean for work at least. They don't need to see me
[15:39:15] <n1> its not that useful really
[15:39:20] <n1> yeah
[15:40:07] <n1> is video conferencing much of a thing do you know?
[15:40:58] <prospectacle> i never use it, and I've worked remotely a lot, but that's not to say I know anything else about it
[15:41:07] <prospectacle> we have an expensive video conferencing system at work that sits on a shelf, unused
[15:41:15] <n1> lol
[15:41:54] <n1> i think many companies would be better off with their own irc, but i've never seen it.
[15:42:07] <n1> especially now, with how people use smartphones.
[15:42:23] <prospectacle> yeah, i mean it's rare that meetings of more than two or three people are really necessary, or useful.
[15:42:29] <prospectacle> and for two or three you can just have a phone call
[15:44:02] <n1> managed to avoid all that so far, although i keep being asked.
[15:45:11] <n1> video conferencing doesnt even seem practical really
[15:46:41] <prospectacle> it's a nice idea. have you seen the captain america movie, the latest one?
[15:47:04] <prospectacle> that's probably the best you could do right now and even that is not great.
[15:47:09] <n1> i dont even know what that is :/
[15:47:27] <prospectacle> well it's got someone talking to lots of different people, and they're each on a separate secreen around him.
[15:47:57] <prospectacle> what you need is head tracking so if you turn your head the camera turns to turn to look at the screen next to yours, maybe the screen turns too
[15:48:56] <n1> if you had a video wall with that going on it could get quite strange
[15:49:16] <prospectacle> i reckon, like little robots that only have heads, all mounted on poles talking to each other
[15:49:18] <prospectacle> surreal
[15:49:27] <n1> heh indeed
[15:49:33] <prospectacle> and probably pointless
[15:49:47] <n1> but it could be done
[15:50:16] <prospectacle> maybe it's better to all get into a virtual world, give your avatar your face if you must, then you can move around, use virtual objects and illustrations, turn to look at people, etc
[15:51:20] <n1> that would be interesting
[15:53:33] <n1> more than what they call a virtual office now
[15:54:39] <prospectacle> some things you need to be there in person, and there seems currently to be not substitute.
[15:54:56] <prospectacle> For everything else chat and email and voice seems sufficient
[15:55:04] <prospectacle> and screen sharing
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[19:02:13] <arti> :D
[19:03:37] <ar> www directory?
[19:03:39] <ar> what was that
[19:03:59] <ar> oh, the search engine?
[19:06:51] <arti> o.o
[19:07:20] <arti> search engines != directory
[19:07:56] <arti> directories are typically curated.
[19:08:36] <arti> where search engines use algorithms
[19:08:36] <ciri> not sure arti
[19:08:47] <arti> oh yes huh, google it :P
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