#Soylent | Logs for 2014-09-22

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[00:00:10] <Subsentient> SSRIs like Prozac take several weeks to start working
[00:00:15] <mrcoolbp> {{Subsentient}}
[00:00:19] <paulej72> but hopfully they are not causing any other bad side effects
[00:00:33] <Subsentient> paulej72: Yeah. I see no big problems.
[00:02:21] <juggs> It's when you start seeing big demons and dragons in the next room it's time to worry :)
[00:02:56] <paulej72> what you mean there is not a dragon in my bathroom?
[00:03:40] <juggs> it's entirely possible that there is - unlikely though
[00:03:43] <Subsentient> Yeah I don't have schizophrenia
[00:03:52] <Subsentient> I have severe OCD.
[00:04:19] <Subsentient> It tends to manifest by picking a question I don't want to be true and torturing me with it.;
[00:04:26] <paulej72> I have auditory halucinations
[00:04:34] <Subsentient> Doesn't really matter what, just has to be something I really fear.
[00:04:39] <paulej72> especially at night
[00:04:58] <Subsentient> paulej72: What are your diagnoses?
[00:05:31] <paulej72> I don’t have them very often so I never went to have them fixed.
[00:05:42] <Subsentient> ah
[00:05:52] <Subsentient> So no diagnoses for anything?
[00:06:07] <paulej72> not yet
[00:06:11] <Subsentient> ah
[00:06:17] <mrcoolbp> ah
[00:06:20] <Subsentient> Yeah for me it's Aspergers and OCD.
[00:06:33] <Subsentient> Aspergers mostly melted away as I aged
[00:06:45] <Subsentient> so of course then I get OCD when I'm 16
[00:07:53] <juggs> I hear music in white noise (such as fan noise) - kinda like a radio playing some music in the background. Think that is more tinnitus related though and not at all disturbing.
[00:09:45] <paulej72> yeah, I have tinitus as well. relly bad when using a memory foam pillow. When I got the pillow, I had to run the fan every night for the white noise.
[00:11:56] <juggs> I can't stand foam pillows - or synthetic duvets for that matter - always make me feel overheated and claustrophobic. Give me down and feathers every time :D
[00:14:09] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: hope you are feeling better sir.
[00:14:19] <mrcoolbp> or at least that you are able to do so soon
[00:14:22] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: Thanks
[00:15:48] <paulej72> I am alergic to feathers :(
[00:16:16] <mrcoolbp> memory foam is better for most people anyway I'd imagine
[00:16:48] <juggs> better in what way?
[00:17:49] <paulej72> my pillow needs to be replaced as it is starting to fail. the fabric that keeps the pillow from fraying is almost to the point where it is non exsistant
[00:19:38] <paulej72> mine is one of thoes that has the contor built in for the neck. I got it when i pinched a nerve for my right arm. I was not keepeing my neck in the proper position at night and it was cuasing one of my nerves to get out of wack
[00:21:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Zero-Waste" Supermarket Gets Rid of All Food Packaging - http://sylnt.us - well,-that's-certainly-different
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[00:55:32] <SpallsHurgenson> hello internet people who may or may not be figments of my imagination
[00:56:29] <systemd> Hi, SpallsHurgenson!
[00:57:15] <SpallsHurgenson> aaaaah! a figment may or may not be talking to me! What do I do, what do I do?!?!?
[00:58:14] <systemd> You could always pass some cash around
[00:58:36] * juggs looms ominously over SpallsHurgenson's shoulder
[00:58:41] * mrcoolbp holds hands out
[00:59:02] * monopoly waits to collect $200
[01:04:05] <juggs> do not pass Go
[01:09:31] <SpallsHurgenson> can't give out cash, eating rabbit food :)
[01:10:56] <chromas> cables and cords?
[01:18:29] <SpallsHurgenson> that new godzilla movie is terrible... I think the one from '98 was better
[01:18:44] <SpallsHurgenson> (at least godzilla didn't look like a fat, old man in that one)
[01:28:19] <SpallsHurgenson> then again, I guess the "old" helps the Japanese audience relate... and the fat makes Godzilla look American so it all works out :)
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[01:38:30] <prospectacle> What's up people?
[01:38:56] <SpallsHurgenson2> god, I hope nothing is up me!
[01:40:05] <mrcoolbp> yo prospectacle
[01:41:04] <prospectacle> I like the funding-o-meter
[01:41:32] <prospectacle> gives me a small but noticeable urge to make it go higher, but I've already subscribed and the swag has a fairly low payment to funding ratio. What is a man to do/
[01:42:19] <prospectacle> I guess I could tell people I know about the site
[01:42:48] <prospectacle> Any plans for premium subscrptions, where I get a nicer star than everyone else and some vaguely defined additional features in the future?
[01:44:47] <paulej72> prospectacle: gift subs to other users, create sock puppet accounts and sub them :)
[01:46:08] <prospectacle> lol
[01:46:09] <ciri> hahaha
[01:46:14] <prospectacle> shut up ciri
[01:46:26] <prospectacle> maybe sock puppets would be fun
[01:46:45] <prospectacle> hard to know who to buy gift subscriptions for as you can hide your star
[01:47:57] <prospectacle> You could start a trade in low uid accounts, with SN getting a broker's fee.
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[01:48:45] <prospectacle> Anyway hopefully those who haven't subscribed will be motivated by the fun-o-meter too
[01:48:54] <prospectacle> Is it real-time?
[01:49:57] * SpallsHurgenson2 checks the payment options again
[01:49:59] <SpallsHurgenson2> <sigh>
[01:50:07] <prospectacle> e.g. If I subscribe how long before it goes $20 higher?
[01:50:26] <prospectacle> what option are you waiting for spalls/
[01:50:27] <prospectacle> ?
[01:50:32] <SpallsHurgenson2> not Paypal :)
[01:51:33] <prospectacle> Oh I thought I saw something about btc being ready, maybe it's just not released yet
[01:52:07] <SpallsHurgenson2> if Facebook did payments, I'd rather use them than paypal.
[01:54:02] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[01:54:02] <Bender> karma - fedora: 19
[01:54:11] <prospectacle> It's funny that banks haven't figured out an alternative to paypal yet. I mean credit and debit cards are supported by all banks and work the same everywhere but they still haven't got any internet options that are industry standards. Get a move on people
[01:55:34] <prospectacle> they could set up an industry funded payment system that just scapes 1-2% off from the mechant and gives it to whichever bank's account was used for the payment. There, I've solved it. Now get it done banking sector
[01:55:37] <SpallsHurgenson2> I get the feeling banks think this whole internet thing is just a fad so there's no point in investing in it :)
[01:55:43] <prospectacle> lol
[01:56:21] <prospectacle> I see some ATMs are sending one-use codes to your phone so you can get cash without a card. They could do a similar thing for online payments.
[01:56:24] <paulej72> bitcoin support needs to be tested before release, also we have a slight snag with otu bitpay account
[01:57:17] <prospectacle> paulej72 thanks for the update
[01:57:45] <paulej72> looks like it will be done at the begininng of the month
[01:58:55] <prospectacle> you ever notice when selecting a printer-driver on windows it still defaults to A:\ to find the driver files.
[01:59:11] <mrcoolbp> lol
[01:59:19] <prospectacle> sure windows, let me just get the appropriate floppy disk from my collection
[01:59:28] <Leebert> Fools. ACH is the pinnacle of banking technology that can never be supplanted!
[01:59:47] * mrcoolbp hasn't head back from bitpay yet, but it is the weekend, I"m hoping we get an "Okay" on our mission from them soon
[02:00:12] <mrcoolbp> Leebert: well said
[02:00:42] <prospectacle> So if I bought spalls a subscription how long till it would show up on the fundometer?
[02:01:14] <paulej72> sometime between now and never. it is a manual process right now
[02:01:53] <prospectacle> i see
[02:01:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> it is? i thought we'd fixed that
[02:02:18] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: the fundometer is manual
[02:02:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh right
[02:02:49] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I thought you went to bed
[02:03:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> thought you were talking before the sub showed on spalls
[02:03:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> did, just woke up. call me NCommander for the evening.
[02:03:37] * chromas doesn't see a meter anywhere on the site
[02:03:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, dev.soylentnews.org
[02:03:54] <chromas> ah
[02:04:08] <chromas> xmassy
[02:04:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> will be live sooner or later
[02:04:43] <prospectacle> i see it on the live page
[02:04:51] <prospectacle> am I insane or just psychic?
[02:05:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> it made it live? sweet
[02:05:15] <chromas> That's an inclusive or, right?
[02:05:38] * juggs adds an all conglomerating fundometer aggregation thing to TheMightyBuzzard's todo - should be easy right...
[02:05:40] <prospectacle> and/or/except-when
[02:05:44] <paulej72> chromas: it is live on production, but may have not fully cleard the cache
[02:05:44] * juggs runs like hell
[02:05:45] <chromas> ah, ctrl+F5 gave me the meter
[02:05:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[02:05:52] <chromas> or metre
[02:06:29] <prospectacle> or cubit
[02:07:14] <Lagg> New client stop highlighting me randomly, I fixed yer regexp
[02:07:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, it's dead simple to do. "oi, some site op, update the fundometer."
[02:08:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, done
[02:10:32] <prospectacle> who is a siteop?
[02:10:41] <juggs> Lagg, what are you one about? Getting random dings?
[02:11:15] <Lagg> Yeah
[02:13:30] <paulej72> Lagg: Lagg Lagg
[02:13:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't pick on lagg
[02:13:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> poor lagg gets enough dings
[02:14:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> leave lagg alone =P
[02:14:05] <paulej72> I am just lagging behind
[02:14:13] <Lagg> These aren't random
[02:14:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, just funny
[02:14:28] <Lagg> They all have my nick in them so that's a given
[02:14:32] <paulej72> these are not the laggs you are pinging for
[02:14:40] <Lagg> The problems are the lines that don't have keywords in them, regexp is broken
[02:14:59] <Lagg> By the way I don't get bells like a lot of people do so highlight spam isn't as intrusive for me
[02:15:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd say show me but A) i just woke up and B) i'm going back to sleep soon
[02:15:20] <paulej72> mute is your firend
[02:15:42] <paulej72> B]
[02:15:55] <Lagg> No just don't even have visual term bell enabled
[02:18:49] <juggs> Lagg, what are you using as a client?
[02:19:00] <Lagg> weechat
[02:19:05] <Lagg> weeeeeeeeeeeeeechatte
[02:19:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds exciting
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[02:30:03] <arti> wakame~
[02:31:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Carbon Taxes Do Work, and Don't Hurt. - http://sylnt.us - this-will-take-some-expaining
[02:31:54] <silverly> of course
[02:32:15] <silverly> so freaking sad australia was able to remove the carbon tax
[02:32:21] <chromas> Bender: expain it to me
[02:38:08] <prospectacle> silverly, as much as I'd like to blame it all on, and demonise tony abbott, the labor party basically threw the election.
[02:39:08] <silverly> yeah pretty much
[02:39:27] <silverly> it sucks a bit but
[02:40:04] <silverly> since honestly i dont think anything the liberal party is doing is helping progress australia at all.
[02:41:06] <prospectacle> well they did cancel our broadband network, so they've advanced the free time we have to spend with our loved ones while pages are loading
[02:41:59] * silverly hazzah
[02:42:22] <silverly> i was fully for the carbon tax
[02:42:33] <silverly> as much it its weird to tax our main export
[02:42:44] <silverly> we need to transition the economy
[02:42:50] <silverly> to something that isnt mining.
[02:43:23] <prospectacle> me too, it seemed like a clever system. Give the money raised back to consumers so no one goes broke and the only diffence it makes is making cleaner technologies marginally cheaper.
[02:44:32] <prospectacle> gotta go, bbl
[02:54:38] * juggs wonders how something called "Suicide Season Disc 2" ended up in their music collection. Apparently I Haunt Wizards think Diamonds Aren't Forever. Don't bother looking any of those up, it's truly awful... apparently shouting "we're all fucking dead" is music :/
[03:03:53] <chromas> !give juggs Jasper Byrne
[03:04:09] <silverly> LOL
[03:04:22] * juggs doesn't dare to look
[03:04:48] <chromas> Hotline Miami
[03:05:02] <chromas> http://www.youtube.com
[03:05:02] <monopoly> ^ 03Hotline Miami OST - Miami (Jasper Byrne) - YouTube
[03:09:36] <chromas> it's funny because nothing in that graphic is in the game
[03:11:35] <juggs> yeh - still not loooking
[03:14:06] <chromas> it's electronic
[03:16:59] <juggs> damn didn't someone patent that so the lawyers could get rich?
[03:17:30] * chromas 's now listening to the rest of the OST
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[03:18:17] <pbnjoe> Jasper Byrne composes fantastic music
[03:18:42] <pbnjoe> he didn't make the whole Hotline Miami OST though, right?
[03:18:46] <chromas> no
[03:19:05] <chromas> it's also got Scattle, MOON, CoConuts and stuff
[03:19:12] <pbnjoe> yeah, right
[03:19:12] <chromas> It's all on soundcloud somewhere
[03:19:26] <pbnjoe> it's also all in a game folder somewhere *roots around*
[03:19:42] <pbnjoe> anyway, yeah
[03:20:54] <chromas> fun game; dying is not optional
[03:22:00] <pbnjoe> mhmm
[03:23:01] <pbnjoe> aha, here it is; was trying to find my favourite song's title, that being Crystals
[03:23:18] <chromas> moon
[03:23:39] <pbnjoe> indeed
[03:24:10] <pbnjoe> my least favourite being Horse Steppin by Sun Araw
[03:24:21] * chromas 'd never heard of any of these guys before the game
[03:24:31] <chromas> I'm missing that one for some reason
[03:24:36] <pbnjoe> it fits into the game's style but it's definitely not background music
[03:24:47] <pbnjoe> odd
[03:25:17] <chromas> I knew there was something about a horse but it wasn't in the directory
[03:25:31] <pbnjoe> and yeah the only person I'd heard of before the game was Jasper Byrne, since he makes tons of good game music
[03:26:07] <pbnjoe> you don't have a HorseSteppin.ogg?
[03:27:30] <chromas> nope
[03:27:35] <chromas> But I'm pretty sure I got it
[03:27:41] <chromas> maybe I also didn't like it and deleted it
[03:28:13] <pbnjoe> probably
[03:28:16] <pbnjoe> I wouldn't blame you
[03:28:20] <pbnjoe> it's the titlescreen music
[03:28:30] <chromas> it's in ~/Downloads. Guess it didn't get moved
[03:28:47] <pbnjoe> it's nice enough at the beginning but then it gradually devolves
[03:29:23] <chromas> videogame_osts++
[03:29:23] <Bender> karma - videogame_osts: 1
[03:29:44] <pbnjoe> videogame_osts++
[03:29:44] <Bender> karma - videogame_osts: 2
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[03:40:05] <silverly> coffee++
[03:40:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 819
[03:40:27] <silverly> lol so whats with the bender bot?
[03:40:33] <juggs> coffee--
[03:40:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 818
[03:40:41] <juggs> tea++
[03:40:41] <Bender> karma - tea: 55
[03:40:42] <silverly> :(
[03:43:00] <pbnjoe> "whats with it"?
[03:44:48] * chromas switches to jsr ost
[03:51:03] <silverly> i dunno what can we do with it?
[03:52:17] <chromas> He bends things and steals your wallet
[03:57:13] <silverly> AWESOME
[03:59:23] <silverly> !todo
[03:59:23] <Bender> nothing todo for silverly ;]
[04:08:37] <silverly> !whoup
[04:08:37] <Bender> nobody upped yet
[04:16:00] <juggs> !whoup coffee
[04:16:00] <Bender> uppers of coffee are: crutchy: 453, TheMightyBuzzard: 247, Blackmoore: 102, Bytram: 61, chromas: 23, mrcoolbp: 16, crutchy_: 16, MrBluze: 15, arti: 14, TK: 12, TheMightyLaptop: 10, mechanicjay: 10, AndyTheAbsurd: 8, Bytram|away: 5, mattie_p: 5, paulej72: 5, juggs: 3, Ethanol-fueled: 3, rand: 2, TheMightyBuzzard|Book: 2, matt_: 2, Blackmoore|afk: 2, exec: 2, Bytram|afk: - 1 more
[04:16:12] <juggs> maximum effect
[04:16:54] * juggs goes to find a ledge to perch on
[04:16:57] <chromas> don't forget the !more
[04:17:17] <juggs> don't break shit o/
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[04:23:23] <silverly> ah
[04:23:27] <silverly> thanks juggs
[04:23:44] <silverly> !more
[04:23:44] <Bender> 2, monopoly: 2, prospectacle: 2, SoyCow7650: 1, silverly: 1, Blkackmoore: 1, chimp: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Gone: 1, xlefay: 1, systemd: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|AFK: 1, idetuxs: 1, crutchy_fone: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Laptop: 1, crutchy__: 1, crutchy|zzz: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Fishing: 1, Blackmoore_: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Out: 1, crutchety: 1, mrcool|livingthedream: 1
[04:24:43] <silverly> !whoup coffee !more
[04:24:43] <Bender> nobody upped coffee !more yet
[04:25:01] * silverly stops now
[04:30:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Sexual Abuse of Women Scientists - http://sylnt.us - ashamed
[04:47:07] <silverly> sigh, i dont get why you would to keep harassing other people
[04:51:10] <chromas> Men aware of mechanism to report contact: 0 ; Men reported physical contact: 1
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[05:12:00] <prospectacle> The problem with being able to change your enviornment so much, is things which start out as luxuries become necessities.
[05:12:05] <prospectacle> e.g. fire.
[05:12:09] <prospectacle> in this case, education.
[05:12:31] <prospectacle> humans are powerful because they can educate their offspring to a much higher degree than other species, but this means now we can't function properly without rigorous and lengthy education.
[05:12:45] <prospectacle> People who fail to learn something that is now considered basic, can't function in society
[05:12:52] <prospectacle> e.g. people who sexually harrass other people.
[05:16:45] <prospectacle> so we need to all accept responsibility for creating this environment, and therefore make sure everyone is well educated in good social behaviour, empathy, and respect.
[05:17:18] <prospectacle> It would be nice if poeple's parents all took care of this without the rest of society having to worry about it, but that's never gonna be the case.
[05:24:16] <Popeidol> it's the classic vicious cycle, though
[05:24:58] <Popeidol> children get a lot of their morals and values from their parents
[05:25:25] <prospectacle> true, not much we can do about that
[05:25:38] <prospectacle> we can do something about schools though.
[05:25:45] <Popeidol> while we can try to teach them the right thing in schools and in the world in general, there's a huge chunk of their upbringing we just cant touch
[05:25:48] <Popeidol> agreed
[05:27:10] <prospectacle> we could have x% of gdp always goes to schools, and y% of school budget always goes to teachers insetad of equipment, books and other stuff that's less important than good teachers
[05:28:03] <prospectacle> it's ridiculously easy to get into teaching compared to say, law or medicince, at least in my country, becuase it's not competitive, because it pays relatively shit
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[05:31:18] <prospectacle> don't let my spelling fool you, I'm actually quote a good typer
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[05:35:37] <silverly> coffee++
[05:35:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 819
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[05:45:15] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[05:45:15] <monopoly> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[05:45:20] <Konomi> want something done, do it yourself
[05:46:33] <prospectacle> what's that? A clocking command?
[05:46:39] <silverly> something for the kernel?
[05:46:41] <Konomi> yeah for my eeepc netbook
[05:46:51] <Konomi> systemd made pm-utils redundent
[05:46:52] <systemd> Konomi: I don't know what that means
[05:47:03] <Konomi> fuck you systemd go burn in a fire \o/
[05:47:10] <silverly> ah
[05:47:10] * Konomi covers her mouth
[05:47:26] <_NSAKEY> SN has been a flame-fest lately, Konomi.
[05:47:36] <_NSAKEY> It only seems natural that it would bleed into IRC, even jokingly.
[05:47:54] <Konomi> I don't hate it, it's just the transition is sucking badly
[05:48:28] <Konomi> I've had to redo most of the power settings pm-utils handled by having dbus call a custom script
[05:48:45] <Konomi> because systemd just doesn't have the fine tuning that pm-utils allowed
[05:50:32] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[05:50:33] <monopoly> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[05:50:38] <Konomi> entire code
[05:50:54] <Konomi> it's kind of messy because I am lazy the SHE_engine is the first thing I bothered to put a bit of time into
[05:51:02] * chromas just realizes the icon is a tube of paste and not a lighthouse
[05:51:35] <Konomi> need to replace the echo "swiched to battery" with logger/systemd-cat at some point
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[05:56:59] <Konomi> systemd will turn out like pulseaudio for me, I'll be cursing it's existence for the first 6 months and wondering how I lived without it a year later
[06:06:14] <swiss> pulseaudio was the opposite for me
[06:06:24] <swiss> I discovered it, though it was fucking amazing
[06:06:31] <swiss> then tried using it, and got frustrated and hated it
[06:06:57] <Konomi> hasn't crashed or did anything annoying for me for a year now so it's good now at least on my end
[06:07:29] <swiss> it's not the crashing that bugged me, but the shitty implementation of network audio
[06:07:38] <Konomi> it's made usb audio tolerable now
[06:07:55] <Konomi> ah I don't use the networking portion so that may very well be the casde
[06:10:59] <Popeidol> these days pulseaudio is down to just one or two quirks that annoy me
[06:11:16] <Konomi> ironically it's speech-dispatcher fdor me
[06:11:36] <Konomi> everytime I open up mumble speech-dispatcher opens up 5 streams to pulseaudio no idea why
[06:12:20] <Popeidol> it refuses to change the output for some games for me
[06:13:07] <Konomi> do they happen to use openal by any chance?
[06:13:14] <Popeidol> insists on piping them over the onboard sound rather than the default sound device and rebuffs all attempts to change it
[06:13:26] <Konomi> openal used to lock the audio output from being switched in pulseaudio
[06:13:33] <Popeidol> interesting, I'll check
[06:13:49] <Popeidol> I tend to like my computer being silent so I didn't even look into it that far
[06:14:30] <Konomi> if it turns out to be that
[06:14:30] <Popeidol> ...would you look at that, they both do
[06:14:41] <Konomi> nano /etc/openal/alsoft.conf
[06:14:49] <Konomi> #allow-moves = false
[06:14:51] <Konomi> to true
[06:15:05] <Konomi> "Allows PulseAudio to move active streams to different devices"
[06:15:46] <Popeidol> I knew there was a reason I paid for a soylent subscription
[06:16:22] <Konomi> it helps to know the openal dev
[06:16:23] <Konomi> hehe
[06:16:45] <Popeidol> change made, now I just have to work for several hours before I can see if it does the trick
[06:16:56] <Konomi> he's part of a small group of friends I've hung around since I started using the internet
[06:16:59] <Konomi> nice guy
[06:18:16] <Konomi> I think he plans to make that default to true some day
[06:19:22] <Popeidol> no sense rushing things
[06:19:25] <Popeidol> everything in it's own time
[06:20:44] <Konomi> but I have to update everything to the latest and greatest! <sarcasm />
[06:21:19] <Popeidol> you say that, but you are on debian testing :P
[06:21:49] <Konomi> shrug ;p
[06:24:16] <Konomi> "you don't make binaries for debian stable because debian stable has libraries that are so old that anything that was built in the last century doesn't work" - linus
[06:24:21] <Konomi> that's why I use testing
[06:24:21] <Konomi> ;p
[06:26:57] <Konomi> to be fair the stable process does seem to be speeding up
[06:31:04] <Popeidol> debian testing is a nice balance between 'fairly current' and 'doesn't break too often'
[06:31:40] <Popeidol> I like it on the desktop, but I'm not about to put it on a production server
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[06:44:05] <monopoly> exec++
[06:44:05] <Bender> karma - exec: 13
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[06:45:19] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:45:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 820
[06:45:54] <arti> coffee++
[06:45:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 821
[06:46:01] <arti> g'day crutchy
[06:46:02] <ciri> yeah, yeah hi HI arti
[06:46:13] * arti pokes ciri with a balloon
[06:46:45] <crutchy> ~gday crutchy
[06:46:46] <exec> * crutchy pulchritudinously pours a cold can of splodge for crutchy
[06:46:55] <crutchy> oh man. that was retarded
[06:47:00] <crutchy> ~gday arti
[06:47:00] <exec> * crutchy insubordinately offers a toilet bowl of red cordial to arti
[06:48:01] <arti> a familiar and highly thoughtful quantity
[07:01:17] <Subsentient> $wz
[07:01:18] <aqu4> [Game 1] Name: Play the violin | Map: TwinArrowHeads-T1 | Host: Subsentient | Players: 1/2 | IP: 216.161.165.96 | Version: 3.1.1
[07:01:19] <aqu4> [Game 2] Name: ogu punya | Map: Vcontrol-X4-T1 | Host: Ogu | Players: 2/6 | IP: 110.159.111.210 | Version: 3.1.1
[07:01:19] <aqu4> End of games list.
[07:01:30] <Subsentient> Anyone wanna join me in Warzone 2100? :^(
[07:01:37] <Subsentient> apt-get install warzone2100
[07:02:21] <crutchy> apt-get install buttplugd :p
[07:02:29] <crutchy> how you been Subsentient?
[07:02:29] <ciri> not sure
[07:02:40] <crutchy> tama, ciri is a buttplug
[07:03:07] <Subsentient> crutchy: Distracting myself from the OCD with Warzone 2100. I've been playing since 2010 and I love this game with all my heart.
[07:03:45] <Subsentient> $wz
[07:03:46] <aqu4> No games are in the lobby at the moment.
[07:03:51] <Subsentient> dammit gotta rehost
[07:04:12] <Subsentient> $wz
[07:04:12] <aqu4> [Game 1] Name: Play the violin | Map: TwinArrowHeads-T1 | Host: Subsentient | Players: 1/2 | IP: 216.161.165.96 | Version: 3.1.1
[07:04:13] <aqu4> End of games list.
[07:05:22] <crutchy> maybe the games are in the yabby
[07:10:10] <Popeidol> E: Unable to locate package buttplugd
[07:11:28] <crutchy> maybe its libbuttplug
[07:11:43] <crutchy> or buttplug_cil
[07:11:53] <Popeidol> there's a package called buthead
[07:11:58] <Popeidol> but I don't think it's the same thing at all
[07:12:57] <crutchy> nah its for plugging security holes in underpants
[07:20:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Case for Kill Switches in Military Weaponry - http://sylnt.us - not-like-triggers
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[07:24:11] <prospectacle> later all
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[07:29:44] <crutchy> aww the goatse suggestion was deleted
[07:31:19] <chromas> oh yeah, exec's back
[07:31:38] <JamesNZ> TIL, `fortune` exists.
[07:31:48] <chromas> ~suggest Show users their own AC comments in their history
[07:32:00] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://sylnt.us
[07:32:09] <crutchy> ~fortune
[07:32:09] <exec> I want to read my new poem about pork brains and outer space ...
[07:32:23] <crutchy> that's not very fortuny :/
[07:32:29] <crutchy> rofl
[07:32:29] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[07:32:29] <exec> Don't hit me!! I'm in the Twilight Zone!!!
[07:32:33] <crutchy> rofl
[07:32:34] <exec> * Overfiend prefers girls who have developed, and DON'T FUCKING **GIGGLE**
[07:32:57] <crutchy> ~define overfiend
[07:32:59] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Overfiend: The uniter of the three worlds as of the movie Urotsukidoji. Also a great unreal Tournament player
[07:33:12] <crutchy> oky doky
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[08:40:46] <crutchy> ~suggest if "comments are owned by whoever posted them
[08:40:53] <crutchy> fuck
[08:40:57] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://sylnt.us
[09:52:47] <Subsentient> $wz
[09:52:47] <aqu4> [Game 1] Name: Only The Dead May Pass!!! | Map: DA-towers4-v0-T1 | Host: Emperor Berg | Players: 2/4 | IP: 114.73.165.10 | Version: 3.1.1
[09:52:48] <aqu4> End of games list.
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[10:06:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:06:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 822
[10:07:04] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:07:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 823
[10:07:28] <crutchy> ahoy there!
[10:07:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin
[10:07:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> time to make the donuts
[10:08:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> anything interesting happen last night?
[10:09:01] <crutchy> i went to http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com to find out about the game but was strangely drawn to the background image on the left hand side of the page :/
[10:09:01] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03League of Legends Wiki - Champions, Items, Strategies, and many mo...: 1> On the WikiWiki ActivityRandom pageVideosPhotosChatForumMapsLeague of LegendsChampionsFree champion rotationBackgroundsStrategiesTriviaSkinsJudgementsFields of JusticeSummoner's RiftTwisted TreelineCrystal ScarHowling AbyssProving GroundsMagma ChamberItemsBasicAdvancedLegendaryMythicalConsumablesRemovedMinionsMeleeCasterSiegeSuperMasteriesOffenseDefenseUtilitySpellsHelp DeskWi
[10:09:14] <crutchy> wow
[10:09:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, seriously bout to pop outa there
[10:09:44] <crutchy> i stayed in an uppity hotel in melbourne
[10:10:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> they have bellhops and everything?
[10:10:11] <crutchy> mnopoly needs a char limit maybe
[10:11:45] <crutchy> ~define bellhop
[10:11:51] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Bellhop: A bellhop, also bellboy ( pronunciation (help·info)) is a hotel porter, who helps patrons with their luggage while checking in or out. Bellhops often wear a uniform (see Bell-boy hat), like...
[10:12:10] <crutchy> is that like concierge?
[10:12:23] <crutchy> doors are mostly automatic
[10:13:00] <crutchy> hmm actually there was still a guy at the door even though it was automatic. weird
[10:13:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, they wag your luggage around for you and wear a funny hat
[10:13:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> not sure the funny hat is mandatory but it's traditional
[10:14:28] <crutchy> we towed our own luggage. maybe that's just cos we couldn't shove our heads up our arses far enough
[10:14:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be an OZ thing too
[10:15:01] <crutchy> will try harder next time
[10:15:07] <crutchy> dunno
[10:15:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> shorts at christmas, no bellhops
[10:15:14] <crutchy> lol
[10:15:35] <crutchy> i think the place where we were you would be kicked out for wearing shorts
[10:15:54] <crutchy> maybe. not sure didn't see anyone in shorts
[10:16:27] <crutchy> there is an even uppityier hotel owned by the same company (we stayed at the cheaper one)
[10:16:52] <crutchy> was pretty swish though
[10:16:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, so you were a refreshing breath of fun in a crowd of snooty asshats then. that's always fun.
[10:17:39] * TheMightyBuzzard wants to watch King Ralph again now
[10:19:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> damnit, facebook broke my script
[10:20:14] <crutchy> http://www.ciclomundial.com
[10:20:36] <crutchy> looks almost industrial from the outside
[10:21:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Development Manifesto "Reactive" Reaches 2.0 - http://sylnt.us - manifest-destiny
[10:21:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> dig it
[10:22:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> used one of them funky make it look like a toy focused lenses
[10:25:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, looks like Facebook::OpenGraph is the cause.
[10:25:19] <crutchy> if i was dumb enough to fork out $400+ per night i'd stay here: http://upload.wikimedia.org
[10:25:39] <crutchy> is that your little perl fb feed scripty?
[10:26:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's the module i use to auth with them
[10:26:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> but ya, it's called from that
[10:26:51] <crutchy> can you pretend to be a real person?
[10:26:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> other one looks more spiffy
[10:27:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could but i'm using the api rather than scraping
[10:27:19] <crutchy> ah
[10:34:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... it's not my calls even though it looks like it is. has to be auth not working
[10:35:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i know what it is
[10:36:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> calls need to be v2.1 instead of v2.0
[10:36:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> and OpenGraph.pm is not up to date on that
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[10:44:59] <crutchy> i need to make a comments stats script
[10:45:37] <crutchy> most frequent commenters etc
[10:45:42] <crutchy> might be interesting
[10:46:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[10:47:02] <crutchy> frojack seems to be a regular
[10:47:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> yer gonna lurve the api when i get it built
[10:48:11] <crutchy> i saw some chit chat about adding max cid and sid to zoo.pl, but i prolly won't use that
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[10:48:58] <crutchy> the xml feed is my source of powah atm :p
[10:49:02] <crutchy> ~cid
[10:49:03] <exec> max SN cid from articles in xml feed: 96681
[10:50:05] <crutchy> not guaranteed to be the max cos its only run every half hour and only looks at latest 20 articles
[10:50:46] <chromas> if you used the zoo.pl you could start at the end and work your way back
[10:51:08] <crutchy> would need cid/sid combo
[10:51:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> feh to zoo.pl
[10:51:18] <chromas> or at least know when you quit
[10:51:21] <chromas> to
[10:51:27] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, what sort of stuff you proposing for api?
[10:51:40] <chromas> well not zoo but tmb.api
[10:51:45] <crutchy> lol
[10:51:45] <ciri> heh
[10:51:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> well right now it does max uid and converts uid to nick and back
[10:52:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to be able to pull comments, articles, and meta-info about them though
[10:52:14] <crutchy> mkay
[10:52:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ideally enough to write an entire SN client
[10:52:30] <crutchy> did you see that pj made the max uid thingy for bender?
[10:52:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[10:52:45] <crutchy> i pilfered it too
[10:52:47] <crutchy> ~uid
[10:52:49] <exec> *** The current maximum UID is 4027, owned by htmbv
[10:53:18] <crutchy> not very useful but meh took maybe 3 minutes
[10:53:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[10:53:31] <monopoly> ^ {"max_uid":"4027"}
[10:53:51] <crutchy> ah that's that json stuff i got wind of
[10:53:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> you must be working off mine then
[10:54:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is working off an old version of the db
[10:54:28] <crutchy> the little ~uid script is scraping zoo.pl on dev
[10:54:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh wait, pj's only works off dev which ditto
[10:55:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine is in fact a dump of dev cause i'm too lazy to be bothered to keep up with db changes sometimes.
[10:55:30] <crutchy> might be cool to be able to make a custom client
[10:55:39] <chromas> crutchy: when tmb.api comes out we could make a soylentphp
[10:55:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn sure be handy for bots
[10:55:55] * chromas would make a desktop application in pascal
[10:55:59] <crutchy> would be good to integrate irc and SN
[10:56:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, you have fun with that
[10:56:19] <chromas> would run on win, lin and maybe android
[10:56:24] <crutchy> chromas, don't need api to do that :p
[10:56:35] <chromas> the web is for chumps
[10:56:44] <chromas> or at least html
[10:57:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't really work on it during normal coding hours though. it's a side project of my very own
[10:57:15] <chromas> since there's no loaw that says the web has to be html
[10:57:24] <crutchy> chromas++
[10:57:24] <Bender> karma - chromas: 37
[10:57:28] <chromas> ~define loaw
[10:57:45] <exec> loaw: unable to find definition
[10:57:46] <chromas> is it that time of the month? :'(
[10:57:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you want a specific call in it, mailto:themightybuzzard@soylentnews.org with a subject of API Call Request
[10:58:06] <chromas> *
[10:58:10] <chromas> ^ everything
[10:58:15] <crutchy> ~suggest TheMightyBuzzard make an irc bot for SN api suggestions :D
[10:58:27] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://sylnt.us
[10:58:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> no i mean stuff that isn't normally in SN
[10:58:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> like getting max comment id
[10:59:16] <chromas> I'd like to see my AC comments in my comment list but that wouldn't just be api
[10:59:35] <crutchy> would be handy to have an authentication call (like NickServ whois but for SN account)
[11:00:09] <crutchy> to enable SN votes in IRC
[11:00:41] <crutchy> (but make sure votes are by those with SN accounts and not just NickServ accounts)
[11:00:44] <chromas> for polls?
[11:00:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> will be authing for it later but not from nickserv
[11:00:53] <crutchy> yeah
[11:01:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably use oauth or something
[11:01:08] <chromas> slash polls forget you voted after a whiel and let you do it again
[11:01:44] <crutchy> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[11:01:44] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03IRC:exec: "exec" is a bot that runs in a CLI that connects to the Soylent IRC server (irc.sylnt.us:6697) and executes other programs and facilitates their interaction with IRC.
[11:02:23] <chromas> oh yeah, the wiki link
[11:02:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> holy crap, cat just jumped five feet up in the air after a moth
[11:02:52] <chromas> Did he get it?
[11:03:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno but it frightened and confused me
[11:03:05] <crutchy> wow. you been feeding it mightydog?
[11:03:09] <chromas> (s)he. shplee
[11:03:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> just the usual, small neighborhood children
[11:04:45] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: how about a more expensive subscription that has an extra point on the star?
[11:04:47] <crutchy> i watched the lone ranger movie thismorning (with johnny depp). very corny but funny
[11:05:02] <chromas> maybe two extra, so it doesn't foreclose on my house
[11:05:07] <crutchy> or a level of subscription that offers advertising space
[11:05:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, nah. ethanol-fueled would always be going off calling them jews
[11:05:42] <crutchy> gotta advertise goatse.cx
[11:05:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, that's what your journal is for
[11:07:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> brb, need more coffee
[11:07:55] <chromas> saw a foe-of-friend frownie, looks so funny
[11:08:13] <chromas> and the winking fan icon
[11:12:40] <crutchy> actually self-hosted advertising is prolly a better way to go than bending over and offering your arse to google because it requires advertisers to be signed up, and if images are directly served from SN would get around adblockers
[11:13:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> might but we're still anti-ads at the moment
[11:14:15] <crutchy> as long as they're just little gifs i don't think anyone would mind (also no tracking bullshit from google)
[11:14:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be doing a kickstarter type thing in the next six months though and if that doesn't get us to our initial funding goal we may have to
[11:15:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> self-hosting ads is a big can of worms though
[11:16:18] <crutchy> everything else will be blocked by most SN users... guaranteed
[11:16:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[11:16:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> means we have to have a salesman that goes out and finds ads though rather than them coming to us
[11:17:37] <crutchy> nah. just offer it to premium subscribers to begin with. fixed price (no pay per click bullshit)
[11:17:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> also means the companies don't have an impartial third party to report click-throughs for them.
[11:17:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> or impressions rather
[11:18:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> they'd have to take our word for it
[11:18:21] <crutchy> treat it same as advertising in a newspaper. no click reporting for that either
[11:18:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[11:19:16] <crutchy> if its a fixed rate there's no worries about corruption or accusations
[11:19:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> from subscribers ain't a bad idea though even if we do only have 60 or so of them
[11:20:14] <crutchy> would be least trouble, but just means have to roll your own rather than copypasta from google
[11:20:48] <crutchy> so bit more dev work to set up. i would offer to help if i could wrap my head around perl
[11:20:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> that'd actually be a lot less trouble but it would largely be blocked
[11:21:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, i can read php from knowing perl. you ain't that far off
[11:21:55] <crutchy> maybe. depends how you go about it. if you make the ad image url something like http://soylentnews.org it's gunna be harder to block without blocking site layout images
[11:21:55] <monopoly> ^ 03404 File Not Found
[11:22:12] <crutchy> you could randomize the url too
[11:22:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> meant google
[11:22:43] <crutchy> oh yeah google would be blocked for sure. only need adblock edge for that
[11:23:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> or noscript
[11:23:12] <crutchy> nod
[11:23:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> need to enable uploading images for subscribers for that.
[11:24:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> or would text ads be better. yeah, they prolly would.
[11:24:49] <chromas> as long as they can <blinkentext/>
[11:24:54] <crutchy> maybe to start with. text ads less intrusive too (as long as its not 72pt arial black)
[11:25:10] <silverly> im a big fan of text ads
[11:25:12] <chromas> they shouldn't get control over appearance
[11:25:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, most browsers ignore blink tags nowadays
[11:25:25] <crutchy> lol lets do a little marquee thing like on the bottom of news channels :p
[11:25:43] <chromas> crutchy: is there an ad vantage to ab edge over plus?
[11:25:57] <chromas> and whatever happened to original adblock
[11:26:05] <crutchy> edge didn't sell out to google
[11:26:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> adblock plus?
[11:26:16] <chromas> yeah
[11:26:24] <crutchy> edge was a fork of adblock after it sold out
[11:26:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's still around and still the #1 blocker for FF
[11:26:36] <chromas> abp has "exceptions" but it's a checkbox
[11:26:55] <chromas> forking++
[11:26:55] <Bender> karma - forking: 1
[11:27:06] <chromas> forking++ # yo mama
[11:27:06] <Bender> karma - forking: 2
[11:27:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, they didn't actually sell out. just put something in so non-intrusive ads like google text ones could get shown n make folks money, entirely user optional though.
[11:28:01] <crutchy> prolly. i dunno much about the history
[11:28:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> silverly, same here. i wouldn't block them but i don't like google tracking me.
[11:28:26] <crutchy> edge is more like gnu of ad blockers i think though
[11:28:38] <crutchy> more toe cheese
[11:28:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> up its own ass with its own superiority then?
[11:28:57] <crutchy> lol definitely
[11:29:16] * TheMightyBuzzard will never call it GNU/Linux. suck it, hippies.
[11:29:41] <chromas> gnu makes up a decreasing amount of the system
[11:29:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[11:29:56] <crutchy> ab edge works though. blocks youtube ads which is good
[11:30:04] <chromas> that's the real reason they hate systemd
[11:30:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i hate systemd cause it fucked around with my network/nfs configuration
[11:30:46] <chromas> I just noticed a bit ago it blocks interstitial ads in Pandora as well
[11:31:12] <crutchy> ~define interstitial
[11:31:18] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Interstitial: An interstitial space or interstice is an empty space or gap between spaces full of structure or matter. In particular, interstitial may refer to:
[11:31:38] <crutchy> left hangin much?
[11:31:43] <chromas> nutctl bust
[11:31:57] <chromas> crutchy: every few songs they have a radio-like audio ad or two
[11:32:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally, i'd like to just sell folks a slashbox on the left since there's room there and let them put whatever they like in it. except javascript.
[11:32:27] <chromas> don't get 'em on the desktop but still do on android even with full adblock action with root
[11:32:31] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard++
[11:32:31] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 79
[11:33:03] <chromas> Can we moderate the slashboxes?
[11:33:16] <crutchy> ooh that would be awesome
[11:33:21] <crutchy> chromas++
[11:33:21] <Bender> karma - chromas: 38
[11:33:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> might could. would hafta write it up.
[11:33:26] <chromas> +1, nerd boner
[11:33:31] <crutchy> moderation of advertising
[11:33:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> that actually would be pretty awesome.
[11:33:53] <crutchy> promote good ones and flame the bullshit
[11:33:55] <chromas> as long as we don't get people just modding it down because it's an ad
[11:34:13] <crutchy> just make positive mods
[11:34:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> only allow logged in users like normal modding of course
[11:34:36] <crutchy> then make ads with higher mods appear more frequentlly
[11:35:04] <chromas> 👍 chromas likes this
[11:35:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, nah. you'd never see new ones
[11:35:31] <crutchy> true, and would be prone to corruption
[11:35:34] <chromas> maybe only increase the frequency slightly
[11:35:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[11:35:51] <chromas> meta mods too
[11:36:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> man i ain't got regular meta-mod working yet
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[11:38:30] <silverly> ditto, TheMightlyBuzzard,.
[11:39:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> bad thing is pj will prolly want me to use the old ads plugin instead of rewriting from scratch
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[11:42:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Watch Out, Digg is BAAACK (Modestly) - http://sylnt.us - Digg-your-own-hole
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[11:43:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i think i just figured a way around meta-moderation that lets the community decide
[11:44:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> without making it really open to gaming that much
[11:44:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> something gets modded down but gets a bunch of unique replies from someone else, the moderation gets considered bad.
[11:45:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> basically anything that sparks conversation yet gets modded down, consider it a bad mod and penalize the moderator accordingly.
[11:46:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause i mean really, that's the standard we're looking for. what makes for good conversation.
[11:46:50] <Popeidol> on the other hand, you're also penalising people who respond to the better trolls
[11:47:44] <Popeidol> somebody turns a discussion about nasa to blaming obama for their budget, gets 20 responses, and anybody who correctly mods him down will suffer
[11:47:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, only the one who modded them troll
[11:48:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> true but again, it did spark discussion
[11:48:35] <Popeidol> there's discussion and there's discussion
[11:50:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... that example wouldn't actually be a troll though
[11:50:24] <chromas> could also have the mods be metamods
[11:50:28] <Popeidol> depends on the article, to be honest
[11:50:39] <chromas> 1 votes down, three vote up, spank downvoter
[11:50:45] <Popeidol> but let's assume it's about the mars orbiter they currently have sending back some interesting results
[11:51:32] <Popeidol> while it might be tangentially related, I'm not clicking on the comments there to hear people argue democrat vs republican and the economy
[11:51:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> the big problem we have now is groupthink. we're at times a very liberal crowd and conservative views get modded troll just for being conservative.
[11:52:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> sometimes vice versa too. depends on who gets mod points
[11:52:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> and the issue really. we're kinda eclectic
[11:53:32] <Popeidol> that's okay, that's what we have ethanol-fuelled for
[11:53:52] <Popeidol> to provide an angry yet interesting counterpoint to anything you say
[11:54:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> really the only sure way is to get one or two metamoderators on staff who genuinely do not give a shit about the issues or at least can reliably follow training to vote like they don't
[11:55:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> otherwise meta-mod is likely to just become more groupthink
[11:55:22] <Popeidol> I used to moderate for a job, I do not envy the person who get's that role
[11:55:42] <Popeidol> but yeah, eventually you need a person to guide things
[11:55:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i don't want us to go that way either though cause reddit and tyranny
[11:56:03] <Popeidol> and nudge moderation in the right direction when they start getting too extreme
[11:56:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, trying to come up with automated ways to meta-mod
[11:57:28] <Popeidol> there's always the 'model' moderation
[11:57:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> hmm?
[11:58:07] <Popeidol> you occasionally take a full comment feed for an article, and get 5 people to go through and moderate as impartially and accurately as possible
[11:58:20] <Popeidol> then you rate moderators on how close they matched it
[11:58:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> could, yeah
[11:59:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> we really need to bump up mod points too. ten isn't getting us enough spread on most articles
[11:59:43] <Popeidol> I've seen it in practice, the problem is how many conversations you'd have to model to cover most moderators effectively
[12:00:19] <Popeidol> it's more the time limit than the amount, usually most of my modpoints just vanish
[12:00:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. i rarely use mine cause i just don't have time while coding/thinking
[12:01:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> but i think i'll talk to NCommander and see if we can bump the points up to 100 as an experiment.
[12:02:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> really need a mod-bomb protection check in there first though
[12:02:38] <silverly> and... subscribed to soylent
[12:03:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> silverly, to mod? nah. maybe only 100 points for subscribers though could work.
[12:04:41] <silverly> sorry, i mean i just became a subscriber :)
[12:04:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, sweet
[12:04:59] <silverly> haha, i should have made that clear
[12:05:02] <Popeidol> silverly is now a member of a very elite group
[12:05:07] <crutchy> ethanol_fueled++
[12:05:08] <Bender> karma - ethanol_fueled: 1
[12:05:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me, we need to start looking for a CC processor that isn't paypal
[12:05:30] * silverly puts on sunglasses and walks all over the red carpet
[12:05:51] <crutchy> ooh we're having corn-flavored snacks available from SN now?
[12:05:51] <silverly> whats wrong with paypal?
[12:06:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> some folks won't use it
[12:06:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> which makes the bank account sadder than necessary
[12:06:30] <silverly> ah, yeah
[12:06:35] <crutchy> because its connected to the internet
[12:07:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> man they all are. ain't like we're gonna phone them in.
[12:07:20] <silverly> so something like stripe then?
[12:07:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeesh, reminds me of my very first perl job. wrote a billing system for a game called Underlight
[12:07:43] <silverly> https://stripe.com
[12:07:44] <crutchy> if you don't accept 2nd hand shoes as payment you're just not worth dealing with
[12:08:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> silverly, whoever has the best perl support most likely.
[12:08:34] <silverly> ah, fair enough
[12:09:12] <crutchy> unless you make that api ;)
[12:09:27] <crutchy> then anything goes
[12:10:06] <silverly> Business::TradeRedShoesForSub
[12:10:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> bluepay looks good
[12:10:52] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:52] <monopoly> ^ 03404 File Not Found
[12:11:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, already did that for bitpay. rather not do it again.
[12:14:20] <silverly> TheMightyBuzzard perhaps braintree (http://braintreepayments.com)
[12:14:21] <monopoly> ^ 03Accept Payments Online | Mobile Payments Made Easy | Braintree ( https://www.braintreepayments.com )
[12:14:29] <crutchy> ooh, or... http://soylentnews.org"INSERT INTO subscribtions VALUES 'Robert'); DROP TABLE Users;--"
[12:14:30] <monopoly> ^ 03404 File Not Found
[12:15:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, api.pl isn't on live yet. only on tmbvm.ddns.net at the moment.
[12:17:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> silverly, ios or ruby? gotta pass.
[12:17:44] <silverly> there is perl and javascript in the top right corner
[12:17:54] <crutchy> visa and mastercard are universal. as much as they such if you don't support them you're a nobody
[12:18:15] <crutchy> s/such/suck/
[12:18:15] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> visa and mastercard are universal. as much as they suck if you don't support them you're a nobody
[12:18:27] <silverly> https://developers.braintreepayments.com
[12:18:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> silverly, their page doesn't render correctly for me then
[12:19:16] <silverly> probs killing the javascript in your client, which is fairenough
[12:20:07] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, can you pilfer from apps like oscommerce?
[12:20:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, no idea what you're talking about
[12:20:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> silverly, got it now, yeah. looks to be doable
[12:20:57] <crutchy> https://github.com
[12:20:58] <monopoly> ^ 03osCommerce · GitHub
[12:21:33] <crutchy> open source ecommerce software
[12:21:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends on the license but yes
[12:21:54] <silverly> i dunno, you probably want to hunt around for the best deal and integration, i just sorta chucked a link in your direction.
[12:22:29] <crutchy> looks like php but can prolly get an idea of how they deal with various payment methods
[12:22:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, prolly spend a couple days looking when i decide it's time
[12:23:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> man it's been a long time since i did this nonsense
[12:24:24] <silverly> im guessing you been perl-ing for quite a bit then?
[12:24:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://en.wikipedia.org
[12:24:52] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03Underlight: Underlight is a fantasy massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG). Underlight was Lyra Studio's first product, launched on Mplayer in 1998.
[12:25:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, yeah =P
[12:25:16] <crutchy> ooh. oscommerce has braintree shit too
[12:25:24] <silverly> crap that is almost as old as me
[12:25:59] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, https://github.com
[12:26:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> not quite that long ago since i did the rewrite for the sequel a couple years later but still
[12:26:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, skipping it since php
[12:26:38] <crutchy> looks like also has stripe support
[12:26:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you wanna write it up for us, rock on with yer bad self.
[12:27:00] <silverly> TheMightyBuzzard just wants perl or bust i guess.
[12:27:16] <chromas> Google Wallet—everybody loves google!
[12:27:16] <crutchy> nah i avoid anything to do with payments like i avoid anything to do with passwords
[12:27:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> right tool for the right job. i'm not a php coder
[12:27:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy is
[12:27:53] <chromas> s/Wallet/Checkout/
[12:27:53] <SedBot9000> <chromas> Google Checkout—everybody loves google!
[12:27:55] <crutchy> just meant as more of a cheat sheet for connecting to various other servers
[12:28:06] <crutchy> like the cc stuff you mentioned
[12:28:15] <silverly> Ah
[12:29:19] <crutchy> https://github.com
[12:30:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, whole idea of going with someone who already has a perl sdk is to keep from having to write an api interface, even with a cheat sheet =P
[12:30:36] <crutchy> ah. np :)
[12:30:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> just wrote one for bitpay and it was not that fun
[12:31:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> surprisingly easy but took a while and still could use some work
[12:31:27] <crutchy> php++ # cos it's just that awesome :D
[12:31:27] <Bender> karma - php: 4
[12:32:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> also, php is a no-go for actually using because we'd have to recompile apache
[12:32:18] <crutchy> and on that note i think my php bot is dead :/
[12:32:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> poor bot
[12:33:02] <crutchy> must have been when i dc before
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[12:33:17] <silverly> R.I.P. phpbot
[12:33:48] <crutchy> ~weather
[12:33:50] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC, Australia - currrently 54°F, clear, wind E at 6 mph, humidity 83% - Monday clear (72°F, 45°F), Tuesday clear (77°F, 48°F), Wednesday chance of rain (75°F, 52°F), Thursday chance of rain (57°F, 41°F) - source: Google
[12:34:05] <crutchy> feck. need to get onto that prefs thingy
[12:34:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[12:34:10] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK - currrently 55°F, clear, wind N at 8 mph, humidity 94% - Monday clear (82°F, 54°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (73°F, 54°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (79°F, 55°F), Thursday clear (79°F, 55°F) - source: Google
[12:34:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice, bout the same temp
[12:34:50] <crutchy> had a perfect weekend here :)
[12:35:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> little warm here but nice just the same
[12:35:50] <crutchy> sucks i have to go back to workipoos tomorrow. gunna feel like a monday :/
[12:36:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> holy crap, someone this year started beta testing a new underlight game
[12:36:23] <crutchy> buck feta!!
[12:37:10] <crutchy> tama thinks i like pink socks. trying to figure out if that's a compliment or not
[12:37:22] <crutchy> knowing tama it's prolly a compliment
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[12:38:03] <crutchy> bugfixes++
[12:38:03] <Bender> karma - bugfixes: 1
[12:38:14] <crutchy> wb monopoly
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[12:39:01] <silverly> alright im outta here, see you people around
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[12:39:21] <monopoly> I work better with wikis now
[12:39:58] <crutchy> sylnt.us/exec
[12:40:05] <crutchy> hmm
[12:40:10] <crutchy> http://sylnt.us
[12:40:11] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03IRC:exec: "exec" is a bot that runs in a CLI that connects to the Soylent IRC server (irc.sylnt.us:6697) and executes other programs and facilitates their interaction with IRC. ( http://wiki.soylentnews.org )
[12:40:39] <chromas> http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com
[12:40:40] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 0303League of Legends Wiki - Champions, Items, Strategies, and many more!: Welcome to the League of Legends Wiki, the wiki about League of Legends that anyone can edit! We currently have 1,844 articles about the free-to-play action RTS video game created by Riot Games.ChampionsItemsStatsSummonerMinionsSkinsPatchesForumsCommunity Champions Free champions Season Four: Week 34 (September 16th, 2014 Season)AatroxAmumuAniviaCassiopeiaEzrealGravesJ
[12:40:54] <chromas> that one works at least; didn't try others. Also takes #anchors
[12:41:33] <crutchy> ooh that's game. i wouldn't be able to take an ancchor
[12:41:45] <chromas> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[12:41:46] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03IRC:exec: not complete (there are some pieces in place though) open to suggestions/criticismObjectives simple to use simple to access simple to get help secure as practicable difficult to vote more than once (governed by requirement for unique email address) secret ballotFeatures/usage/limitations user connects to Soylent IRC and identifies with NickServ user can get list of available polls using ~vote list (system will all...
[12:42:08] <crutchy> ahh
[12:42:13] <crutchy> monopoly++
[12:42:13] <Bender> karma - monopoly: 8
[12:42:15] <chromas> doesn't look right without the bullets and everything on one line
[12:42:17] <crutchy> chromas++
[12:42:17] <Bender> karma - chromas: 39
[12:42:25] <chromas> exec++
[12:42:25] <Bender> karma - exec: 14
[12:42:27] <chromas> crutchy++
[12:42:27] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 99
[12:42:30] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard++
[12:42:30] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 80
[12:43:03] * TheMightyBuzzard is totally going to dick off and check out this new Underlight version today.
[12:43:13] <crutchy> k
[12:45:41] <crutchy> i think i had to do some fopar to get exec to get wiki content. not exakery the same cos its just with the api https://github.com
[12:46:10] <chromas> apis++
[12:46:10] <Bender> karma - apis: 1
[12:47:51] <chromas> I need to add more functions before it gets its name taken away for undeservement
[12:48:13] <crutchy> underservement?
[12:48:55] <crutchy> monopoly++ # best title bot there is
[12:48:55] <Bender> karma - monopoly: 9
[12:50:20] <chromas> needs to do karma, feeds, SedBot, weather and irciv :D :D
[12:50:45] <crutchy> lol. if you do all that at least one bot will do irciv :p
[12:50:57] <ar> "irciv"?
[12:51:06] <crutchy> i still haven't got user management they way i want
[12:51:12] <ar> coffee--
[12:51:12] <Bender> karma - coffee: 822
[12:51:19] <crutchy> ~gday ar
[12:51:20] <exec> * crutchy unjustifiably cracks open a tinfoil hat of bacon for ar
[12:51:40] <crutchy> ooh
[12:51:42] <crutchy> bacon++
[12:51:42] <Bender> karma - bacon: 256
[12:52:10] <crutchy> bacon++ # cos its prorry been feering a bit ronery ratery
[12:52:11] <Bender> karma - bacon: 257
[12:54:09] <crutchy> ar, sorry no screen caps, but here's a bit of info if you're curious: http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[12:54:09] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03IRCiv:
[12:54:44] <chromas> guess I done broked it
[12:55:02] <crutchy> nah that page has an image at the top
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[12:56:05] <chromas> Should be done Simpson skipped over
[12:56:08] <crutchy> haha "lurks in #civ" waaaa :(
[12:56:22] <chromas> soft_keyboard--
[12:56:22] <Bender> karma - soft_keyboard: -1
[12:56:26] <chromas> should be skipped over
[12:56:41] <crutchy> simpson?
[12:57:30] <chromas> Typing error
[12:57:35] <crutchy> this place looks expensive. hmmbetter make the most of it... buuuuuurrrrp!
[12:58:08] <chromas> gasctl fart
[12:58:47] <crutchy> oh my fapping fap
[12:58:49] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[12:58:49] <monopoly> ^ 03First iPhone 6 sold in Perth is dropped by kid during an interview - YouTube
[13:01:36] <chromas> Bruised that apple
[13:02:17] <crutchy> pretty dumb packaging really
[13:03:12] <crutchy> bad publicity for apple too. all the isheep who see that gunna be *real* careful opening their iphone 6 now
[13:04:11] <paulej72> I was looking at the new iPhones on Saturday. They are nice. I really like the large screen on the 6+. I just wish they had landscape mode for the home screen for the 6. It is big enough to do that.
[13:04:40] <crutchy> so much for unbreakable screens... https://www.youtube.com
[13:04:40] <monopoly> ^ 03iPhone 6 Drop Test - OFFICIAL - 1st Day Outside Apple Store Sydney - YouTube
[13:04:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, pj
[13:04:46] <paulej72> crutchy: see apple wants you to get one of their cases with your new iPhone
[13:04:58] <paulej72> morning
[13:05:49] <paulej72> I am not sure any phone dropped from 2m onto the screen will survive.
[13:06:00] <paulej72> onto concrete
[13:06:23] <crutchy> that's what they been claiming though
[13:06:31] <paulej72> 1m probably, but not 2
[13:06:44] <paulej72> who has.
[13:08:55] <crutchy> the saphire screen supposed to be unbreakable, but oddly enough now i google and it says iphone 6 doesn't have saphire screen. wtf?
[13:10:50] <crutchy> saphire screens have been touted as one of the big new breakthroughs
[13:10:53] <chromas> Diamondillium++
[13:10:53] <Bender> karma - diamondillium: 1
[13:11:10] <paulej72> saphire is hard so it very scratch reesistant only diamond can scratch it. This is not brittleness which is a seperate property. Ususally brittleness and hardness are inversly proportional.
[13:11:25] <chromas> Diamondium--
[13:11:25] <Bender> karma - diamondium: -1
[13:11:52] <crutchy> you mean proportional... harder the material the more brittle :p
[13:12:17] <paulej72> yea that is what I meant.
[13:13:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> back later, booting winders to dick off playing games
[13:13:04] <paulej72> forgot that one of the properties was already an inverse.
[13:13:13] <paulej72> too bad
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[13:13:43] <crutchy> no doubt anyone with a brain knew they were never gunna be unbreakable, but cnet and various other news websites that suck love touting anything that comes out of cupertino
[13:15:36] <crutchy> some materials are quite hard but still fairly ductile. aircraft aluminium alloys for example (2024-T3 is common)
[13:16:05] <crutchy> can be a bastard to punch on a sheetmetal punch machine
[13:18:41] <crutchy> some alloys have really weird looking stress-strain curves
[13:30:42] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:30:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 823
[13:30:46] <paulej72> crutchy: it is hard to see through aircraft aluminum or it would already be used for screens
[13:31:18] <TK> Are you all on about transparent aluminum again?
[13:31:40] <crutchy> true. very difficult to see through. its the only material (besides structural steel) that i've had much experience with though :p
[13:32:24] <crutchy> i guess there's lexan
[13:32:33] <crutchy> didn't they use that for the moon helmets?
[13:33:06] <crutchy> tested with a guy hitting them with a steel mallet
[13:38:18] <chromas> Need them holograms and hoverboards we were promised next year
[13:38:33] <crutchy> TK, "transpumium" will revolutionize the iphone industry :D
[13:39:33] <chromas> Needs to be an insulator, though
[13:40:59] <TK> Is that a derivative of pumice?
[13:41:29] <TK> We have holograms already
[13:41:45] <TK> Either that or Tupac really is alive
[13:42:46] <chromas> Good holograms
[13:51:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amateur Processing of Rosetta Pictures - http://sylnt.us - pics-or-it-didn't-happen...oh-wait...
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[14:38:00] <Blackmoore> mornin
[14:38:27] <paulej72> moring Blackmoore
[14:42:35] <Blackmoore> *sigh* brb. systhem didnt attach to local network.
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[14:50:09] <Blackmoore> i really do not get this network.
[14:50:22] <Blackmoore> local should always work.
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[14:58:41] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard++
[14:58:41] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 81
[14:59:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, what i do?
[14:59:58] <mrcoolbp> just being you
[15:00:09] <mrcoolbp> coffee++ time
[15:00:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 824
[15:00:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, thas good then. i can keep doing that with low effort
[15:00:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> they still giving you crap about the bitpay account?
[15:01:06] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[15:01:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 825
[15:02:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[15:02:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 826
[15:27:55] <mrcoolbp> hmm, TheMightyBuzzard: I don't see an email from them but the account looks normal from the dashboard "You are currently enabled for up to $100/day, $500/year"
[15:28:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[15:28:13] <mrcoolbp> weird, I got an email in german on the admin@ contact
[15:28:22] * mrcoolbp throws into google translate
[15:29:18] <mrcoolbp> hmm, he wants to link-exchange
[15:36:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> what kinda site?
[15:37:12] <mrcoolbp> meh, I think it's spam
[15:37:17] <mrcoolbp> gonna discard this one
[15:37:39] <mrcoolbp> got a AV warning visiting the site
[15:39:30] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: any idea what to do with that email I forwarded you? ("stupid filter" and the error msg with IPID, subnet, etc.)
[15:49:54] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: I *think* the account is back in action
[15:50:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly worth an email to double check and find out wtf
[15:51:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Japanese Construction Firm Plans to have a Space Elevator Up and Running by 2050 - http://sylnt.us - reach-for-the-sky-and-beyond
[15:51:10] <mrcoolbp> can do
[15:58:55] * mrcoolbp sends detailed email to bitpay
[16:01:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're usually pretty on top of replying within the day
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[16:38:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> !uid
[16:38:12] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4739, owned by secarider
[17:02:21] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: without more info there is nothing I can do, other than change the default behavior of the messages to remove that if you think you see this in error contact admin@SN
[17:03:02] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: should I try to get more info from them?
[17:03:51] <paulej72> you could try.
[17:10:21] <Blackmoore> ~weather NCommander
[17:10:22] <exec> Weather for Anchorage, AK - currrently 38°F, clear, wind E at 1 mph, humidity 77% - Monday clear (54°F, 39°F), Tuesday clear (55°F, 36°F), Wednesday clear (54°F, 36°F), Thursday clear (53°F, 40°F) - source: Google
[17:30:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wisdom of "If you're not paying, you're the product, not the customer" Called into Question. - http://sylnt.us - you-are-the-product-and-someone-else's-customer
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[18:06:31] <mrcoolbp> Hey Blackmoore, I sent you an email today
[18:12:20] <Blackmoore> mm. i see it now
[18:13:24] <Blackmoore> Dopefish and I intend to have a phone conversation; but we have chatted about the original content about 2 weeks ago.
[18:13:58] <Blackmoore> but yes - we need to bring development into the conversaion.
[18:14:39] <Blackmoore> so we can see how those articles can be promoted - and not clog up the site
[18:15:10] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore, yeah kind of waiting on the wildcard certs for that
[18:15:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> any word from matt_ on that?
[18:15:39] <mrcoolbp> negative, he usually only pops in around meeting time
[18:15:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[18:16:32] <Blackmoore> i didnt see dopefish on last week, so I'll respond to the email and try to get more rolling.
[18:17:09] <Blackmoore> i did manage to get some more time in on Dev in the editorial tools.
[18:17:40] <Blackmoore> i might not be ready for live - but i think i have the interface down.
[18:19:02] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: "We are pleased to inform you that your merchant account has been unsuspended, and you are now authorized to conduct transactions and accept payments using BitPay" AND!
[18:19:05] <mrcoolbp> Good news! Our compliance team reviewed your account, and we were able to raise your approved sales volume to the amount you requested. Your sales volume has been approved to process up to $1000 per day.
[18:19:23] <mrcoolbp> you guys can now go to town sir
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[18:19:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> woohoo!
[18:20:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> whenever pj is handy n has time to kill then, though at this point we could just wait a week and push it out with the 14.10 update.
[18:20:16] <mrcoolbp> I think that's the plan
[18:20:50] <silverly> hello
[18:20:51] <ciri> hi there silverly
[18:20:57] <silverly> sleep--
[18:20:57] <Bender> karma - sleep: 2
[18:21:06] <silverly> hi ciri!
[18:21:07] <ciri> hello silverly
[18:21:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> sleep's for the week
[18:21:37] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: s/week/weak/
[18:21:37] <SedBot9000> <mrcoolbp> <TheMightyBuzzard> sleep's for the weak
[18:21:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's like weak except they're mostly weak in spelling
[18:21:42] <mrcoolbp> lol
[18:22:03] <silverly> except when you havent slept for a week, you should sleep. :P
[18:24:27] <mrcoolbp> phew, I'm tuckered out, I'm going to take a bit of a break
[19:11:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Hadrosaur With Large Nose Discovered - http://sylnt.us - which-end-is-which?
[19:45:46] <swiss> amazon++
[19:45:46] <Bender> karma - amazon: 1
[19:45:54] <swiss> what, how is that so low
[19:45:56] <swiss> amazon++
[19:45:56] <Bender> karma - amazon: 2
[19:45:56] <swiss> amazon++
[19:45:56] <Bender> karma - amazon: 3
[19:45:57] <swiss> amazon++
[19:45:57] <Bender> karma - amazon: 4
[19:45:58] <swiss> amazon++
[19:45:58] <Bender> karma - amazon: 5
[19:50:32] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[19:50:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 827
[20:02:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[20:02:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 828
[20:02:27] <swiss> coffee--
[20:02:27] <Bender> karma - coffee: 827
[20:02:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> why are you amazon++ing so much, swiss?
[20:02:28] <swiss> eww
[20:02:44] <swiss> TheMightyBuzzard: because i am very pleased with them
[20:02:51] <swiss> esp when i shop elsewhere
[20:02:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i gathered that much
[20:03:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> get a free cookie in your last shipment or something?
[20:03:34] <swiss> i find myself going "wtf, its friday and the thing i ordered on monday isnt here" when i shop elsewhere
[20:04:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[20:06:03] * TheMightyBuzzard is currently playing a mmorpg built on something very much resembling the original doom engine.
[20:13:43] <Landon> heh
[20:13:54] <Landon> I always liked deepsurplus until amazon got their amazonbasics stuff
[20:13:59] <Landon> orders always came with a pack of skittles
[20:14:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh? nifty.
[20:15:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> believe i'll have a nap for now. more goofing around later
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[20:50:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mars Orbiter Spacecraft from India healthy, ready to enter Mars - http://sylnt.us - rise-and-shine
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[21:33:12] <arti> TheMightyBuzzard: link doom mmo
[21:33:42] * arti has been looking for a javascript one (i found out about it through HN moons back)
[21:33:54] <arti> used websockets and had a nifty art style
[21:34:05] <arti> total one man project
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[21:55:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> arti, will do ya one better and do an article on it.
[21:56:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> look for it tomorrow
[22:01:43] <arti> oh excellent
[22:01:45] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:01:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 828
[22:01:49] <arti> much abliged
[22:01:49] <crutchy> laterz
[22:01:54] <arti> laters dude
[22:01:59] * arti salutes and goodbyes
[22:02:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> isn't a browser game btw. honest to goodness executable.
[22:03:09] <arti> like in the days of yore
[22:03:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> party like it's 1998, yo
[22:03:59] <arti> that would be quake.chtree.org
[22:04:10] * arti would access that with dialup
[22:04:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually here ya go if ya wanna check it out: http://clashofdreams.com
[22:04:20] <monopoly> ^ 03Underlight: Clash of Dreams
[22:04:32] <arti> Crash of Dreams in japan
[22:05:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's one of them like you never see though. you actually gotta stay in character.
[22:05:55] <arti> man, this is so 90s
[22:06:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yeah, actual game came out in 98. there was like it and there was UO
[22:07:12] <arti> neat, you wouldn't happen to be the developer would you :P
[22:07:19] <arti> "it's all written in perl"
[22:07:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> in all my spare time? sure.
[22:07:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> no i wrote the billing system for the sequel what never saw the light of day.
[22:08:10] <arti> oh cool!
[22:08:20] <arti> subscription and one off billing?
[22:08:25] * arti writes lots of billing things
[22:08:37] <arti> it sucked $bodypart the first time around
[22:09:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> credit card work in 98 before there were laws about how you had to do such things
[22:09:25] <arti> even more exciting, what language was it written in?
[22:09:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> the game, no idea. the billing system was in mod_perl
[22:10:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> i rewrote it for the sequel for apache2 and mod_perl2
[22:12:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> never launched though cause they couldn't get enough devs to actually work on it.
[22:14:30] <chromas> so it's kind of like slash
[22:16:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, same vintage but older code.
[22:18:32] <chromas> same situation, though, but now you're the not-enough-developer
[22:18:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, no kiddin
[22:22:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Quick-change Materials Could Increase Computing Speed - http://sylnt.us - even-faster-in-turbo-mode
[22:23:05] <chromas> from the turbo-button-slowed-the-computer dept
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[22:50:15] <silverly> "working"--
[22:50:23] <silverly> work--
[22:50:23] <Bender> karma - work: -7
[22:50:47] <chromas> Bender doesn't believe in other people's sardony :)
[22:52:04] <silverly> haha
[22:52:16] <silverly> i had no idea what sardony was, i had to look it up
[22:52:39] <chromas> we have a bot for that
[22:52:42] <chromas> ~define sardony
[22:52:55] <silverly> :O
[22:52:56] <exec> sardony: unable to find definition
[22:53:03] <silverly> owned
[22:53:08] <chromas> lool
[22:55:05] <silverly> ~define-add sardonic Scornfully mocking or cynical
[22:55:05] <exec> syntax: ~define-add <term>, <definition>
[22:55:13] <silverly> ~define-add sardonic, Scornfully mocking or cynical
[22:55:13] <exec> definition for term "sardonic" set to "Scornfully mocking or cynical"
[22:55:23] <silverly> there we go
[22:56:33] <monopoly> exec++
[22:56:33] <Bender> karma - exec: 15
[22:57:44] <systemd> too many bots
[22:57:59] <silverly> nah
[22:58:08] <silverly> never can have TOO many bots
[22:58:29] <arti> >Meanwhile in Russia...
[22:58:57] <monopoly> am I a bot?
[22:59:13] <arti> bottom.
[22:59:20] * chromas looks at hands..."duuuude"
[22:59:27] <chromas> power bottom
[22:59:53] <arti> i uhttp://4.bp.blogspot.com
[22:59:56] <arti> http://4.bp.blogspot.com
[23:00:34] <arti> that was the weakest council room ever
[23:01:09] <chromas> it was a congress
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[23:33:38] <silverly> karma water
[23:33:42] <silverly> water++
[23:33:42] <Bender> karma - water: 6
[23:33:59] <silverly> no one drinks water just coffee and tea
[23:34:00] <silverly> haha
[23:35:17] <swiss> amazon++
[23:35:17] <Bender> karma - amazon: 6
[23:35:28] <chromas> archlinux++
[23:35:28] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 53
[23:35:29] <silverly> you really love amazon jesus
[23:36:00] <swiss> archlinux--
[23:36:00] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 52
[23:36:04] <swiss> i really don't like arch
[23:36:13] <swiss> also, yes, amazon is in my top 5 favorite companies
[23:36:23] <chromas> salsa++
[23:36:23] <Bender> karma - salsa: 3
[23:36:23] <swiss> have you ever dealt with returns? or refunds? They're awesome with it
[23:36:35] <swiss> now is that salsa the eats, or salsa the dancing?
[23:36:43] <chromas> eats
[23:37:00] <swiss> salsa++
[23:37:00] <Bender> karma - salsa: 4
[23:37:13] <chromas> hiccups-- though
[23:37:13] <Bender> karma - hiccups: -2
[23:37:33] <swiss> salsa_hiccups--
[23:37:33] <Bender> karma - salsa_hiccups: -1
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[23:41:12] <silverly> nah
[23:41:35] <silverly> amazon Australia is a thing but i never need to buy anything
[23:41:36] * chromas loves arch and takes it to pm
[23:41:55] <silverly> the last thing i bought was lockpicks and a new phone
[23:44:16] <Blackmoore> rum++
[23:44:16] <Bender> karma - rum: 16
[23:44:20] * SpallsHurgenson checks to see if amazon sells lockpicks
[23:44:41] * juggs wanders in, closes the curtains and lights the fire before slumping onto one of the many recliners
[23:44:49] <SpallsHurgenson> well, whaddaya know!
[23:45:18] <Blackmoore> do you need the CIA field guid for picking locks?
[23:46:21] <Blackmoore> *passes around the rum bottle*
[23:47:45] <SpallsHurgenson> also on amazon :)
[23:49:25] <silverly> haha
[23:49:35] <silverly> i dunno, do i?
[23:49:52] <SpallsHurgenson> amazon has a pretty shitty selection of liquor. Then again, I'm surprised they actually sell the stuff at all
[23:49:52] <silverly> i just ordered some picks and a set of dummy locks
[23:52:11] <juggs> sounds like fun
[23:52:30] <SpallsHurgenson> s/dummy/mentally challenged/
[23:54:49] <Blackmoore> http://www.amazon.com
[23:57:03] <Blackmoore> i love the reviews on amazon.
[23:57:04] <Blackmoore> http://www.amazon.com
[23:57:40] <swiss> amazon++
[23:57:40] <Bender> karma - amazon: 7