#Soylent | Logs for 2014-09-21

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[00:00:56] * Bytram remembers Punch and Judy
[00:01:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:01:01] <monopoly> ^ {"uid":"18"}
[00:01:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:01:19] <monopoly> ^ {"uid":"2"}
[00:01:19] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[00:01:19] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 75
[00:01:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:01:27] <monopoly> ^ {"uid":"76"}
[00:01:53] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:01:54] <monopoly> ^ {"uid":"1"}
[00:02:00] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:02:00] <monopoly> ^ {"uid":"3338"}
[00:02:08] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:02:08] <monopoly> ^ {"uid":null}
[00:02:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> get_user is up next. gotta decide what all is fit for public consumption
[00:02:15] <chromas> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:02:15] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":null}
[00:02:20] <Bytram> nice! handles error condition reasonably!@
[00:02:27] <chromas> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:02:27] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":null}
[00:02:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> purely by accident, i swear
[00:02:42] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:02:42] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":"NCommander"}
[00:02:47] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:02:48] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":"Anonymous Coward"}
[00:02:50] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:02:50] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":null}
[00:03:02] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:03:02] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":null}
[00:03:07] <Bytram> !uid
[00:03:07] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4736, owned by simmeeaswell
[00:03:22] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:03:22] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":null}
[00:03:51] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:03:52] <monopoly> ^ 03500 Internal Server Error
[00:03:56] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:03:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:03:56] <monopoly> ^ {"max_uid":"4027"}
[00:03:56] <monopoly> ^ {"max_uid":"4027"}
[00:04:10] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:04:10] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":"htmbv"}
[00:04:13] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:04:13] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":null}
[00:04:20] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:04:20] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":null}
[00:04:48] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:04:49] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":null}
[00:04:56] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:04:56] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":null}
[00:05:05] <Bytram> nice.
[00:05:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net DROP TABLE users;
[00:05:06] <monopoly> ^ {"uid":null}
[00:05:20] <Bytram> ROFLMAO!!!!!!
[00:05:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:05:26] <monopoly> ^ {"uid":"2"}
[00:05:59] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:05:59] <monopoly> ^ {"uid":null}
[00:07:02] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:07:02] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":"anthem"}
[00:07:21] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:07:22] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":"The Mighty Buzzard"}
[00:07:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, looks good. merged
[00:08:04] <Bytram> ~describe table user;
[00:09:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~12 days until 14.10 dunno how much of this i can have done working only in spare time. still going to fix bugs on regular time.
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[00:09:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:09:55] <monopoly> ^ {"uid":"2792"}
[00:10:07] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: is the nick create date/time in there? exporting it as a Unix Epoch timestamp would be fine
[00:10:27] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:10:28] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":"Ethanol-fueled"}
[00:10:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Guys guys I went to Starbucks today and when the lady asked me over the microphone what I wanted, I told her, "I like my coffee how Kim Kardashian likes her dicks -- Black. "
[00:10:31] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:10:32] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":"rogueippacket"}
[00:10:40] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:10:40] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":"bongomaniac"}
[00:10:45] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:10:46] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":"SirMarth01"}
[00:10:51] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[00:10:51] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":"Wylde Stile"}
[00:10:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, you so got spit in your coffee
[00:11:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, no idea. going to export everything fit for public consumption from the users table though.
[00:11:29] <Ethanol-fueled> The best part was that when I pulled up to the window, the girl told me that the other girl taking the order was Black.
[00:11:31] <Bytram> nod nod; so no email addy or any of that.
[00:12:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, fake_email gives whatever you have set to show on comments
[00:12:05] <Ethanol-fueled> what is up with Monopoly? did you feed it meth?
[00:12:28] <Bytram> Ethanol-fueled: nah, just eth-anol
[00:12:32] <Bytram> =)
[00:12:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, he's just spittin back what my script gives him. writing an api for SN
[00:12:52] <Bytram> Ethanol-fueled: look at the URL it is processing.
[00:13:04] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[00:13:04] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 76
[00:13:23] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: just 1700 more and you'll gain your independence =)
[00:13:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> that mean i gotta fork then?
[00:13:55] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: are you using a db reader connection to do all this new stuff
[00:14:03] <Bytram> afk brb
[00:14:16] <Ethanol-fueled> you guys are writing an API? that's pretty rad.
[00:14:30] <Ethanol-fueled> that sounds like fun.
[00:14:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, ya. standard slash db interface
[00:14:50] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: simple one for now
[00:16:06] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: not a writer connection correct. should be safer with only read access
[00:17:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, going to enable auth later and use writer as well.
[00:17:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> not sure if i wanna use oauth or what though.
[00:18:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, is fun. doing it in my non-bug-fixing time
[00:18:23] <paulej72> are we sure we want api access to write to the db. that seems like it could cause issues
[00:19:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> eventually i'd like some random user to be able to develop an app, so kinda gotta allow write access.
[00:19:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean we'll have all the sql protection that slashcode has to offer. as long as we use things like reskey for non-subscribers we shouldn't have any more issue than we do now.
[00:20:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> right now it's very much pre-pre-pre-pre-alpha though
[00:21:36] <chromas> eventually, slash itself could then use it :D
[00:21:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> could indeed but that's way too meta for my brain to deal with.
[00:22:34] <chromas> we can start a new web interface that uses it, then replace the slash front end
[00:22:43] <chromas> /restart
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[00:22:59] <chromas> whoops
[00:23:01] <paulej72> chromas: there is an ajax interface for that, but it is likely very broken
[00:23:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you like. or start an android app
[00:23:11] <chromas> ew
[00:23:18] <chromas> java + xml == ew
[00:24:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, time for some food n take the dirty dishes out and shoot them
[00:24:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> back in a bit
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[00:25:11] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: cya; I'll be leaving soon, myself.
[00:25:23] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ # Thanks for the API work!
[00:25:23] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 77
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[00:37:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should probably cache everything so far but the max_uid since it can change at any old time.
[00:40:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell, think i may save the api for the kickstarter drive
[00:40:07] <juggs> hmm - what business does firefox have with /bin/xtables-multi :/
[00:40:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell if i know
[00:43:20] <juggs> as far as I can figure out xtables-multi provides methods to dump / save / restore the iptables ruleset :/ Ahh well, apparmor denied it anyways :D
[00:47:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good
[00:50:14] <Bytram> Well! That was a *very* insightful read about the closing of Mozilla Labs... the post-mortem is disarmingly frank and full of insights. Really worth the 5 or so minutes it takes to read: http://www.ianbicking.org
[00:50:15] <monopoly> ^ 03Professional Transitions (or: the shutting down of Mozilla Labs)
[00:51:40] <Bytram> Theres this failure is okay meme among the Innovation Crowd. Certainly we talked about it in Labs as well. Fail fast; try another experiment; repeat. I think this is bullshit. Failure isnt okay, we dont achieve things through Brownian motion and a selection function. There are many kinds returns on an investment, and if you focus on only one kind of return, only one definition of success,
[00:51:41] <Bytram> then most experiments will appear to fail. If you want to encourage innovation you have to create a more inclusive definition of success. Success can mean that you learn something. It can mean getting rid of a biased preconception about a solution. It can mean learning about and understanding a domain or approach. It can mean adapting processes for future improvement. If something looks like an abj
[00:51:41] <Bytram> ect failure, I still believe if you look more closely and thoughtfully you can learn from it and come up with another approach, another experiment or if necessary a meta-experiment. You should be ready to pivot at any time, but thoughtfully.
[00:51:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pressure on U.S. to Lift the Crude Oil Export Ban - http://sylnt.us - market-wants-to-be-free
[00:52:01] <paulej72> juggs: firefox was probably trying to open a port it needed for updates or some such.
[00:53:21] <paulej72> juggs: or an NSA backdoor :)
[00:54:04] <Bytram> hey all, it's been fun... but time for some shut-eye...
[00:54:11] <Bytram> have a good night, all!
[00:54:25] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[00:54:55] <juggs> paulej72, I can't see how that would work in the vast majority of cases as sane people run firefox as an unprivileged user - unable to alter iptables rules. Bizarre. I shall have to watch closer and see exactly what action triggers it
[00:54:59] <Bytram|away> !uid
[00:54:59] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4736, owned by simmeeaswell
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[00:58:46] <paulej72> juggs” the firefox developers are have their heads so far up their butts that they probably did not realize that.
[01:00:15] <juggs> maybe. Could be one of the plugins I have installed too, so not necessarily FF devs to blame.
[01:00:41] <paulej72> sure cold
[01:00:44] <paulej72> could
[01:25:53] <paulej72> quack
[01:26:32] <juggs> woof
[01:26:53] <juggs> apparmor profiles kill my head :(
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[01:34:29] <paulej72> prap roam
[01:36:15] <paulej72> juggs: you are not susposed to edit them directly. it even says so in the file I think
[01:38:01] <juggs> yah - I'm using aa-genprof and aa-logprof - still useful to read through what's generated as the end result though :)
[01:38:11] * arti is now curious
[01:38:29] <paulej72> just now arti?
[01:38:45] <arti> yeah.
[01:39:44] <juggs> don't worry, it'll soon wear off
[01:49:35] <juggs> http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com :)
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[01:57:57] <arti> http://metro.co.uk
[01:57:59] <monopoly> ^ 03Two Russian women died after being buried under potatoes | Metro News
[02:01:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's bound to be a vodka joke in there somewhere
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[02:16:42] <chromas> http://store.theonion.com
[02:16:50] <chromas> Need a Soylent edition
[02:20:41] <juggs> what would you suggest as the text?
[02:21:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - maddog: I Will Never Again Talk About The Benefits Of Free Software - http://sylnt.us - ask-and-ye-shall-receive?
[02:21:38] <chromas> I guess it would have to be something different
[02:21:58] <chromas> maybe 'coffee'++
[02:22:05] <chromas> scare quotes
[02:26:52] <juggs> oooh - zazzle does those vinyl wrapped flasks - if we can come up with some witty text just mebbe it will appear in the SN swag store :D
[02:29:39] <chromas> Something about Ethonal-fueled
[02:31:54] <juggs> including the typo?
[02:32:46] <chromas> it gains the typo when it's empty
[02:33:05] <chromas> As it empties, the text becomes slurred
[02:33:09] <chromas> That's high tech
[02:34:15] <chromas> moldy_grapes--
[02:34:15] <Bender> karma - moldy_grapes: -1
[02:36:11] <juggs> .....and when you finally drain the last few drops out it starts verbally abusing you and everyone around you
[02:36:29] <juggs> yehhhh - I'm not sure this will be a big seller
[02:37:10] <chromas> unofficial swag
[02:38:24] <chromas> Maybe some APK rum. Got a little hosts in you?
[02:38:40] <juggs> too /.
[02:38:58] <chromas> the troll product line
[02:44:59] <Konomi> firefox the magical browser that likes to eat 30% of a cpu core while it's doing absolutely nothing
[02:45:36] <chromas> that sounds about right
[02:45:41] <chromas> Not sure it would fit on the flask though
[02:49:05] <Konomi> shame they don't have about:threads or cpu or something they have memory x.x
[02:51:29] <juggs> grr - something is hitting my disk once a second and I can't figure out what. All I'm seeing is kworker/u32:1 and jbd2sda6-8 using iotop.
[02:52:24] <Konomi> jdb implies journal iirc
[02:52:27] <Konomi> you running systemd?
[02:52:38] <Konomi> iirc it logs to the journal of the file system by default
[03:01:00] <juggs> jbd is used by ext4 I think... so my (probably flawed) logic is that the kernel worker thread is doing ~something~ requiring a write and jbd just gets called up as a symptom of that - I'm seeing ~30 kworker "writes" and then jbd pops up and actually commits stuff to disk.
[03:02:08] <juggs> Not running systemd in full no - but there are bits and pieces related too it that have been dragged in thanks to various other things having been re-written to now rely on it ~grr~
[03:02:46] <juggs> root 392 0.0 0.0 51732 1976 ? Ss Sep20 0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd --daemon
[03:02:46] <juggs> root 922 0.0 0.0 43452 1888 ? Ss Sep20 0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd-logind
[03:02:54] <chromas> iotop?
[03:03:02] <chromas> so many tops
[03:03:18] <juggs> it's like top but for disk activity
[03:03:53] * chromas installs
[03:04:38] <juggs> just seems unnecessary to hit the disk every friggin second - and besides the faintly blinkin light in the corner of my eye is bugging me!
[03:05:56] <chromas> every time it hits the disk there's a new thing to log to disk :)
[03:06:00] <juggs> I came across something like this a few years back that eventually turned out to be an ext4 journalling bug - but that got fixed. :/
[03:06:45] <chromas> would noaccess help? Or is that non needed anymore?
[03:06:53] <juggs> yah - you'd think it would be a log of some kind - but certainly nothing is getting updated in /var/log
[03:06:57] <chromas> noatime
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[03:11:33] <juggs> hmm, noatime would be a bit of a sledgehammer to crack a nut - if it's even related. Looks like since kernel v2.6.30 the default mount options use relatime which should mean far fewer updates to the accessed times (but not quite as restrictive as noatime)
[03:14:54] <paulej72> iced_coffee++
[03:14:54] <Bender> karma - iced_coffee: 3
[03:15:11] <paulej72> !whoup iced_coffee
[03:15:11] <Bender> uppers of iced_coffee are: crutchy: 2, paulej72: 1
[03:16:24] <chromas> htop has some iocolumns; doesn't mention disk though
[03:19:48] <paulej72> lets add htop to firefox. wont add much overhead
[03:20:12] <juggs> eh feck knows it's hiding from me in a kworker process, I'm not even trying to start messing around with ftrace type stuff at 4am, I'll probably break something lol
[03:23:49] <juggs> paulej72, I think firefox should be added to systemd
[03:24:15] <juggs> systemd-browserd it's only a matter of time
[03:24:19] <paulej72> no we add systemd to firefox then add firefox to systemd
[03:24:40] <juggs> that sounds dangerously recursive
[03:26:04] <paulej72> we should add emacs to systemd
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[03:35:33] <Konomi> http://budgetfightback.getup.org.au
[03:35:34] <monopoly> ^ 03Getup's Budget Fightback
[03:35:42] * Konomi sets web site on fire
[03:53:09] <juggs> that is one fugly website - shit scrolling over other shit, eye bleeding colours, it's utterly obnoxious.
[04:03:02] <chromas> salsa++
[04:03:02] <Bender> karma - salsa: 1
[04:03:10] <chromas> I was sure I upped it the other day
[04:03:35] <juggs> !whoup salsa
[04:03:35] <Bender> uppers of salsa are: chromas: 1
[04:03:45] <juggs> !whodown salsa
[04:03:45] <Bender> nobody downed salsa yet
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[04:10:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U2 and Apple Collaborate on Non-Piratable "New Interactive Format for Music" - http://sylnt.us - innovating-packaging-and-presentation
[04:12:35] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup.
[04:17:31] <chromas> salsa++
[04:17:31] <Bender> karma - salsa: 2
[04:18:01] <Ethanol-fueled> the food or the music?
[04:18:08] <chromas> food
[04:18:12] <juggs> erybody a-sleepin me thinks EF or doing weekendy things at least
[04:18:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, it's good and good for you.
[04:18:46] <Ethanol-fueled> salsa dancing is the human equivlent of 2 courting dogs sniffing each others' butts.
[04:18:48] <chromas> it's good in/on eggs and also on sliced meat sandwiches
[04:19:02] <chromas> so it's a good thing then?
[04:19:23] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, you are one polymorphously perverse individual for suggesting salsa goes with eggs and sandwhiches.
[04:19:37] <Ethanol-fueled> You're a Brit, right?
[04:19:40] <chromas> no
[04:19:51] <Ethanol-fueled> That's the only excuse you would have for making such terrible food combinations.
[04:20:04] <chromas> you don't eat omlettes?
[04:20:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, my mistake. Salsa is acceptable with omelettes.
[04:20:40] <chromas> also potatoes
[04:20:47] <chromas> I also put water on my cereal (the rare occasion I have cereal)
[04:20:55] <Ethanol-fueled> with carne asada fries.
[04:20:57] <chromas> milk--
[04:20:57] <Bender> karma - milk: -4
[04:21:05] <Ethanol-fueled> why milk-- chromas?
[04:21:13] <Ethanol-fueled> milk is awesome.
[04:21:31] <chromas> it tastes bad. It's good when the cream is whipped or in a cake or something
[04:22:06] <chromas> whipped cream 'cause sugar and other stuff hides the milk flavor
[04:24:34] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: http://store.theonion.com
[04:24:54] <chromas> If we had a Soylent flask, what would be something good to put on it?
[04:28:13] <juggs> SoylentBooze - ish pee pull
[04:29:16] <Ethanol-fueled> I like Buzzard's stein idea.
[04:29:22] <Ethanol-fueled> I would pimp a SN stein.
[04:29:44] <chromas> do they come in non-transparent?
[04:30:59] <chromas> opaque
[04:31:05] <juggs> Can be - depends what design we slap on them
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[04:53:21] <Ethanol-fueled> We need a soylent news butt-plug.
[04:53:29] <Ethanol-fueled> We could call it "Soylent Poos"
[04:53:47] <Konomi> "feel comfortable that for once something other than the government in in your arse"
[04:53:53] <Konomi> is in*
[04:54:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Or a Soylent News Yamaka labeled "Soylent Jews"
[04:56:13] <chromas> Konomi: there's always room for one more
[04:56:22] <Konomi> oh god ;p
[04:57:53] <chromas> seems like all the pastebins who give up their source use mysql :'(
[04:58:35] <Ethanol-fueled> what's so bad about mysql chromas?
[04:58:59] <chromas> I'm already using postgres; don't want two DB engines running
[04:59:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, plus MySQL is Oracle now.
[04:59:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, fuck dat.
[04:59:43] <chromas> there's mariadb to get away from oracle
[05:00:01] <chromas> haven't tried it but I assume it's close to drop-in
[05:00:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Ahhhhh, the alcohol's warmth is kicking in.
[05:00:39] <chromas> ah oh
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[05:02:36] <crutchy_> gelato++
[05:02:36] <Bender> karma - gelato: 1
[05:02:59] <crutchy_> coffee_gelato++
[05:02:59] <Bender> karma - coffee_gelato: 1
[05:03:33] <monopoly> ~define gelato
[05:03:55] <sql> weather hell
[05:04:07] <sql> ~weather hell
[05:04:17] <chromas> no exec
[05:04:31] * chromas just noticed nobody's home at the botmobile
[05:04:38] <crutchy_> 404 lappy switched off
[05:04:59] <chromas> maybe we need a second exec that comes in when the main one leaves
[05:05:36] <crutchy_> im in melbourne atm
[05:06:25] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy
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[05:07:17] <crutchy_> gday ef
[05:07:38] <chromas> nosql eh
[05:10:48] * crutchy_ is playing yuppy tourist at croqn casino
[05:11:05] <crutchy_> *crown
[05:17:27] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, are casinos legal in all of australia or only on Abbo lane?
[05:17:29] <Ethanol-fueled> land^
[05:20:24] <JamesNZ> ~gday crutchy_
[05:21:00] <JamesNZ> crutchy_: Fine, I'll greet you manually then :D
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[05:35:53] <drgibbon> Ethanol-fueled: .....
[05:36:22] <drgibbon> no good, no good
[05:36:38] <Ethanol-fueled> drgibbon, what do you mean?
[05:36:50] <drgibbon> "abbo land"
[05:37:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, so the PC patrol is here. There's nothing offensive about "Abbo land," kind sir.
[05:37:14] <drgibbon> garbage
[05:37:23] <drgibbon> I'm from Australia, and it has negative connotations
[05:37:25] <drgibbon> nothing PC about it
[05:37:31] <drgibbon> I grew up in Kalgoorlie
[05:37:41] <drgibbon> you're just being a cunt
[05:37:48] <drgibbon> :)
[05:37:57] <Ethanol-fueled> do you aussies have reservation-style situations with the indigenous like we do in America?
[05:37:58] <drgibbon> take care, kind Sir
[05:38:18] <Ethanol-fueled> drgibbon: I am what I eat -- CUNT>
[05:38:22] <drgibbon> cool dude
[05:38:28] <drgibbon> anyway, just letting you know :)
[05:38:35] <drgibbon> I'm sure you're a fine person
[05:38:37] <drgibbon> no harm
[05:38:50] <Ethanol-fueled> no harm
[05:38:51] <Ethanol-fueled> no harm
[05:38:57] <drgibbon> bueno
[05:39:03] <Ethanol-fueled> but seriously, are you gonna answer my question or not?
[05:39:12] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm genuinely curious
[05:39:39] <juggs> drgibbon, what's the acceptable description for "original" Aus natives?
[05:40:11] <drgibbon> I assumed EF was from Australia, perhaps it's fine terminology in the USA
[05:40:24] <drgibbon> but in Australia, it's usually a term used with a negative connotation
[05:40:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Okay, let me ask a few questions:
[05:40:33] <drgibbon> if it doesn't have that in USA, then I apologise
[05:40:38] <drgibbon> aboriginal, indigenous
[05:41:01] <Ethanol-fueled> 1) Does Australia allocate land to the indigenous and allow the indigenous to abide by their own laws on that land?
[05:41:10] <drgibbon> Ethanol-fueled: in theory
[05:41:16] <Ethanol-fueled> 2) Are casinos legal in all of Australia?
[05:41:23] <drgibbon> Ethanol-fueled: yes they are legal everywhere
[05:41:35] <drgibbon> Ethanol-fueled: but Indigenous people are not really respected, IMO
[05:41:44] <Ethanol-fueled> drgibbon: I know that.
[05:42:00] <juggs> kk - I'd have gone with aboriginal anyway - put these terms come in and out of acceptance so fast it is hard to keep track sometimes. I guess they get abused then take on negative connotations then fall out of use.
[05:42:01] <drgibbon> they get their "land" and "rights", but that often (always?) doesn't extend to stopping MINING
[05:42:20] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, and I think that's bullshit.
[05:42:34] <drgibbon> what;s bullshit? that the meaning of words changes?
[05:42:38] <Ethanol-fueled> The idea is to narrow the range of thought and dissapear the past down the memory hole.
[05:42:38] <drgibbon> sometimes people get all PC yes
[05:43:05] <chromas> aboriginal is okay as long as you don't abbrev. it?
[05:43:19] <Ethanol-fueled> History is ugly but important to know, even its ugly parts.
[05:43:23] <drgibbon> but in Australia, when you hear someone say "Abo" you can be pretty sure the guy/girl is an overt/covert racist
[05:43:37] <drgibbon> chromas: it's not like an alogrithm.. it's just a pattern of usage in society
[05:43:38] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm racist sometimes, everybody is.
[05:44:01] * chromas puts "abo" into his closet for later
[05:44:50] <drgibbon> it might be cool in USA, I have no idea
[05:44:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Trying to make the world a perfect place, rather than working with its imperfections, is not only unrealistic but impossible.
[05:45:16] <drgibbon> who's trying to make the world perfect?
[05:46:16] <Ethanol-fueled> I for one had no idea that "abbo" was the Australian eqivalent to the American word "nigger"
[05:46:35] <drgibbon> well, I apologise, I just got carried back to COUNTRY AUSTRALIA IN THE EARLY 90s
[05:46:38] <drgibbon> haha
[05:46:39] <Ethanol-fueled> If you say the latter word in public in America, you'll have your car turned over and set on fire.
[05:46:48] <juggs> some deluded cretin somewhere who believes if they make the world around them perfect to their eyes then it will be perfect for everyone else. Dictatorship 101 or something.
[05:47:01] * Ethanol-fueled listens to Men at Work in honor of the Aussies
[05:47:07] <drgibbon> well, Abbo is not the equiv of nigger
[05:47:13] <drgibbon> here that would be coon
[05:47:50] <Ethanol-fueled> No, I meant as far as the degree of taboo, not literally relating to specific race. And yeah, "coon" is also used here, just deprecated (or in the South)
[05:48:20] <drgibbon> an example woud be "ahh he's just a fucking abo" etc
[05:48:42] <drgibbon> although anyway, racism has almost nothing to do with race in reality anyway, IMO
[05:48:53] <drgibbon> nice sentence there ;P
[05:50:16] <drgibbon> no one really cares what someone's skin colour is, as long as they have adapted to the dominant culture (after some period of ancestral brutalisation that is so long in the past that other people can't comprehend how the effects can carry forward through time in complex ways)
[05:50:23] <drgibbon> only the old school racists care about skin colour
[05:50:40] <drgibbon> colonisation never ended ;)
[05:50:48] <drgibbon> the memory hole INDEED
[05:51:29] <drgibbon> and you thought PC was bad!
[05:52:01] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't believe in policital correctness because I consider it a form of censorship.
[05:52:13] <drgibbon> yeah
[05:52:24] <drgibbon> PC sucks
[05:52:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Narrowing the range of thought.
[05:52:52] <juggs> human tribalism ~shrug~ just need to kill the "other" - doesn't really matter what the "other" it's just competitive behaviour,
[05:53:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Not many people know this, but National Lampoon used to be an adult humor magazine.
[05:53:24] <drgibbon> juggs: ahhh yes, but it's rather important when the dominant tribe doesn't really it's destroying itself ;)
[05:53:30] <drgibbon> realise
[05:53:47] <drgibbon> as it shuts down and destroys all other modes of thought and action... under the guise of freedom
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[05:54:11] <juggs> example / illustration?
[05:54:12] <drgibbon> bbbbbbbbzzzzzzzz
[05:54:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Many of their articles and comics were politically incorrect, for example there was a comic about Jewish birds...all with large beaks for noses....and instead of "Seagull" the bird was called "Siegel"
[05:54:39] <drgibbon> well, destruction of the system which the tribe requires to sustain itself is a reasonable one
[05:54:55] <drgibbon> I'm not saying it's a conspiracy
[05:55:00] <drgibbon> it's simply power
[05:55:08] <drgibbon> but power can be wrong ;)
[05:55:31] <drgibbon> blind pragmatics... very precise.. very powerful... very short-sighted...
[05:55:32] <Ethanol-fueled> (looking for examples)
[05:55:39] <drgibbon> which is implied in being blind :D
[05:55:43] <drgibbon> anyways
[05:55:45] <drgibbon> gotta roll
[05:56:17] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: are you going to tells us about how SNL used to be funny too? :D
[05:56:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Chromas, you just made me sad.
[05:56:36] <drgibbon> at least one good thing out of all this is that zombo.com is still running... after all these years
[05:56:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Next, van Halen will be considered "classic rock" :(
[05:56:57] <drgibbon> I almost want to cry
[05:57:05] <drgibbon> thank you zombo.com
[05:57:07] <drgibbon> thank you!
[05:57:20] <chromas> flash--
[05:57:20] <Bender> karma - flash: -1
[05:57:52] <drgibbon> cya dudes
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[05:58:17] <chromas> don't get lost in the zombo
[05:58:49] * chromas 's fingers are still peppery; can't rub eyes
[05:59:06] * chromas wonders if that could be a good thing for fingering
[05:59:17] <chromas> Keepin' it spicy
[06:01:18] <Ethanol-fueled> I love peppery vagina smell
[06:01:33] <Ethanol-fueled> women who smoke cigarettes usually smell peppery
[06:01:35] <juggs> haha - I use a lot of chillies in my cooking - noooo it's not good when that spiciness gets to more delicate parts of the anatomy...... BURRRNnnn!!!
[06:01:51] <SirFinkus> try icy hot
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[06:02:03] <Ethanol-fueled> the kind of smell that lingers long after she's gone, and you can't stop smelling your fingers.
[06:02:26] <Ethanol-fueled> not too nasty, but just nasty enough to keep your attention.
[06:02:45] * Ethanol-fueled kneads dick, curls toes
[06:03:54] <juggs> like an insecure 5 year old then? That would figure.
[06:04:05] <crutchy_> abodiginal :p
[06:04:34] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: knead it, pat it and mark it with a B…
[06:05:11] <Konomi> rubber gloves recommended if meeting any other soylent members away from your keyboard
[06:05:28] <crutchy_> and a gas mask
[06:06:17] <chromas> certainly wouldn't want to leave any evidence behind
[06:11:12] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't get it, chromas.
[06:14:03] <chromas> gloves also keep the fingerprints and dna away
[06:15:39] <juggs> chromas is revealing his dark alter-ego - and frankly it's worrisome :/
[06:16:46] * chromas plans a trip over to beta HQ
[06:17:25] <chromas> [3] gloves [7] tape [0] knives [2] rolls of plastic...
[06:18:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, I get it now.
[06:20:38] <Ethanol-fueled> [4] rolls of plastic if you're doing an American woman BOOYA
[06:20:51] <chromas> lol
[06:21:04] <chromas> actually I was poking fun at the SN name vote
[06:25:34] <Ethanol-fueled> This is Chromas now [ safe for work ]
[06:25:35] <Ethanol-fueled> http://i.imgur.com
[06:26:05] <chromas> But I don't have a hat
[06:26:27] * chromas should acquire a hat
[06:26:48] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAH
[06:26:56] <Ethanol-fueled> don't acquire a trillby
[06:27:10] <Ethanol-fueled> get a do-rag, or a classy top-hat
[06:27:15] <chromas> maybe a trench coat or a duster, except I'm too short
[06:27:46] <Konomi> I lost the trenchcoat my friend gave me ;_;
[06:27:51] * Ethanol-fueled sings "Yoda doll, to Major Tom..."
[06:28:25] <Konomi> my friend lived in a shady part of melbourne and the trench coat was like my safety clothing
[06:29:20] <chromas> If I had a trenchcoat then somebody would call the police because they'd think I was about to shoot up the school when it's really just drugs
[06:29:37] <Ethanol-fueled> drugs are awesome.
[06:29:47] <Ethanol-fueled> except meth.
[06:29:56] <Ethanol-fueled> the Divell incarnate.
[06:30:37] <SirFinkus> I've heard meth is awesome
[06:31:30] <Ethanol-fueled> A tiny amount before a critical moment is okay.
[06:31:52] <SirFinkus> kind of how I saw it
[06:32:05] <SirFinkus> save it for something productive, don't do it every day
[06:32:33] <Ethanol-fueled> But you ingest any more than a bump the size of a pencil eraser and you'll be breaking into peoples' houses and jacking off in their bedrooms.
[06:32:38] <chromas> When you need to clean up the garage or take your television apart
[06:33:01] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas: the problem is that a good meth high never ends after your pet task is finished.
[06:33:48] <SirFinkus> only amphetimines I've taken are the ones the doctor perscribed, withdrawel was not fun off those
[06:33:56] <Ethanol-fueled> adderall?
[06:33:59] <SirFinkus> yeah
[06:34:09] <Ethanol-fueled> can you sell me some?
[06:34:26] <SirFinkus> naw, went off that years ago
[06:34:44] <chromas> sold the excess to the neighbor kids
[06:34:49] <Ethanol-fueled> hahaha chromas
[06:34:58] <SirFinkus> taking it everyday isn't great
[06:35:14] <SirFinkus> no appetite, sleep was difficult
[06:35:24] <Ethanol-fueled> I got a fat prescription of vicodin for sciatica a couple years ago, threw the majority of it away in a dumpster regularly combed by bums.
[06:35:58] <SirFinkus> opiates scare the shit out of me
[06:36:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus: students take it here a lot during finals week, and on it they look no different from tweekers. Pinpoint pupils on wild glossy eyes.
[06:36:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Yappin and yappin'
[06:36:26] <SirFinkus> well, it's the same drug
[06:40:55] <Ethanol-fueled> when you integrate e^x, it looks like "sex"
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[07:51:36] <Ethanol-fueled> holy shit math problem.
[07:51:57] <juggs> I doubt it's holy
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[07:53:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh yeah, th eproblem.
[07:53:52] <Ethanol-fueled> its past midnight here, so 7-11 is the viabable option
[07:54:20] <Ethanol-fueled> specifically, being drunken in two axes.
[07:54:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Rocket launch in T-minus thirty minutes and counting...
[07:56:16] <juggs> yehhhh.,, getting drunk isn't really going to help solve a math problem. Invariably that ends with the problem unsolved, a hangover and having to go back a few steps to properly grok what it is you missed earlier on.
[07:57:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Thanks, momma. The solution to the problem: NIGGERS.
[07:58:11] <juggs> if that's the solution, what's the problem posited?
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[08:00:15] <Ethanol-fueled> NIGGERS
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[08:06:14] <crutchy_> flame_towers++
[08:06:14] <Bender> karma - flame_towers: 1
[08:06:26] <juggs> ~sigh~
[08:08:13] <crutchy_> whats up juggs?
[08:14:05] <juggs> wrestling my liberal side into conformity with the requirements of maintaining a semblance of order and "acceptability" in official SN channels makes me ~sigh~.
[08:14:29] <juggs> ~shrug~
[08:15:00] <chromas> We need to get that kind of activity back into ##
[08:15:54] <chromas> and moar bacon
[08:17:05] <crutchy_> ah. you mean the ef factor. just ask yourself "what would xlefay do?"
[08:18:21] <chromas> set the server to censor 'bad' words
[08:18:25] <juggs> I suspect if we forced EF into ## they'd no longer appear. It's just attention seeking behaviour. I dunno - I'd suggest a vote on what is and is not acceptable but it would take so long to decide on the methodology of voting that we'd all be long dead before anything was achieved, ~double-sigh~
[08:18:25] <chromas> including coffee--
[08:18:51] * juggs twitches violently at the mention of censor
[08:20:28] * chromas tries some more salsa
[08:20:39] <chromas> I think it's actually hotter now than when I first made it
[08:20:43] <chromas> hiccups--
[08:20:43] <Bender> karma - hiccups: -1
[08:21:47] <juggs> crutchy_, xlefay would instantly code up some irc alt-world that only EF sees and interacts with.
[08:22:10] <chromas> hellban
[08:22:29] <chromas> with bots to talk back
[08:26:10] <juggs> chromas, bans are silly - wtf do you ban on? IP, nick?, hostmask?, rDNS? it's trivial to evade bans and IME imposing bans just escalates things. Not worth the bother unless something is getting completely out of hand.
[08:26:44] <chromas> the alt-world that only he'd see would be the hellban
[08:26:55] <chromas> I wasn't suggesting it; just naming it
[08:27:26] <chromas> I, for one, don't mind his noise
[08:27:31] <crutchy_> xlefay was pretty easy going
[08:27:32] <chromas> or bot noise
[08:28:35] <juggs> hmm.... maybe we can have a purgaban and if the banned continue their nonsense there they get hellbanned and trolled by bots incessantly.
[08:29:36] <chromas> I think the way it usually works on forums and such is the user can post like usual but only they can see it
[08:29:46] <juggs> it's all sounding a bit christiany though. I'd prefer a re-incarnation theme.
[08:29:52] <chromas> lol
[08:29:52] <ciri> now that is funny
[08:30:15] <chromas> when someone's ~karma gets too low then they get a +q
[08:30:25] <chromas> but we can still see it anyway if we have our thresholds adjusted
[08:30:38] <chromas> SoylentChat
[08:30:38] <juggs> uch
[08:31:54] * juggs heads for the horizontal position
[08:32:09] <juggs> don't break shit 0/
[08:32:17] <chromas> night sir \x1action hat tip\1
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[10:07:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:07:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 819
[10:53:49] <ar> coffee--
[10:53:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 818
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[14:04:49] <crutchy_> just saw the new twister movie. not the best but watching in a recliner was nice
[14:05:26] <crutchy_> coffee++
[14:05:26] <Bender> karma - coffee: 819
[14:12:46] <ar> coffee--
[14:12:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 818
[14:14:20] <crutchy_> gold_class++
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[16:33:29] <Ethanol-fueled> hehehehe
[16:34:24] <Ethanol-fueled> The monkey doesn't bite as long as you're nice to him.
[16:36:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Keepin' it greasey, so it will go down easy.
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[19:57:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Why do you look at me when you hate me Why should I look at you when you make me hate you to I sense a smell of retribution in the air I don't even understand why the fuck you even care!
[19:59:07] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll kick your bircxhty lottle ass pbnsjk
[19:59:10] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahahahahahaa
[19:59:26] <Ethanol-fueled> I just hate you i wannan kick your ASSS
[19:59:32] <Ethanol-fueled> HHHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAH
[20:00:06] <Ethanol-fueled> suck mny fucing dick faggots.
[20:01:12] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[20:01:13] <monopoly> ^ 03guns n' roses - Get In The Ring - Use Your Illusion II - YouTube
[20:01:25] <Ethanol-fueled> "WHy do you loook at me when you hat eme>
[20:03:26] <Ethanol-fueled> FUCK YOU\
[20:03:34] <Ethanol-fueled> SUCK MTY FUCKING DICK
[20:04:01] <Ethanol-fueled> HHHAHHAHAHA I:LL KICK YIOUR BITCHY LITTLE ASS PUNK
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[20:36:32] <tecnomo> Hello
[20:36:33] <ciri> hello, nice to see yea! tecnomo
[20:36:42] <arti> greetings human
[20:38:43] <tecnomo> Does any here know whats up with hackthissites.orgs log in. Is it down for good ?
[20:39:09] * arti is unfamiliar with this site
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[20:59:56] <ethanol-fueled> hahahahhaahah
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[21:24:24] <chromas> Dammit, I think I might be a closet hipster
[21:24:38] <arti> ruby on rails programming again?
[21:24:54] <chromas> Enjoying bands like Matt and Kim on Pandora
[21:25:08] <chromas> And I was hating things other people liked before I knew it was hip to do so
[21:25:11] <crutchy_> you need to cut yourself off at the hips
[21:25:56] * chromas digs for the right saw
[21:27:05] <chromas> I put everything into one station on Pandora; seems to do things in blocks of four, so four 'comedy' songs/tracks; four video game OSTs
[21:27:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, that's just called getting old. everything you do regularly you've done before little pubescent twats ever heard of it.
[21:28:55] <chromas> True; that's why I can't remember any examples
[21:29:25] * chromas has many a gray hair at 31
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[21:34:03] <chromas> freenode-- # for disconnecting me all the time
[21:34:03] <Bender> karma - freenode: -4
[21:34:21] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[21:34:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> busy day, think i'll have a nap before dinner.
[21:34:37] <chromas> did you coffee++ ? or still taking a break
[21:34:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm all good again
[21:35:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> five hours fishing then another five going to, at, or coming home from bass pro
[21:35:48] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard++
[21:35:48] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 78
[21:36:33] <chromas> need to get that up to 655360
[21:36:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> catch you lot in a few hours or in the AM
[21:37:02] <chromas> night sir
[21:59:03] <arti> g'nite buzzard
[22:13:29] * juggs wanders in and inspects the soft furnishings
[22:17:49] * chromas gives juggs a squeeze
[22:18:24] * juggs emits a strange coloured cloud of some sort
[22:18:24] <chromas> s/a /an innappropriate /
[22:18:24] <SedBot9000> <chromas> gives juggs an innappropriate squeeze
[22:18:54] <juggs> how's things chromas ?
[22:19:21] <chromas> Not bad. Just going around cleaning things up in the house. We have a lot of dust
[22:19:32] <chromas> Also watching the systemd trolling on freenode
[22:22:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Some Humanity Finally Shown By Swedish Gov't To Pirate Bay Spokesman - http://sylnt.us - cruel-and-unusual-punishment
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[22:22:42] <juggs> It's been super dusty here this year for some reason - leave a window open for a couple of hours and the window sill acquires a nice layer of fine silt - weird. Perhaps a volcano blew off somewhere and it's been depositing here ever since ~shrug~
[22:23:12] <juggs> people do have their panties in a bunch over systemd :D
[22:23:46] <chromas> there was some notice spamming too
[22:24:37] <chromas> Since exec's gone
[22:24:49] <chromas> //weather 97420
[22:24:50] <systemd> chromas: The current temperature in Red Dyke Road, Coos Bay, Oregon is 69.6F (3:24 PM PDT on September 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 69.8F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
[22:26:08] <juggs> seems pleasant enough
[22:27:00] <chromas> should get my own weather bot
[22:28:06] <juggs> we can't have enough of those things about the place :D
[22:28:27] <chromas> it's not fair to have more humans than bots; that's racist
[22:28:33] <chromas> affirmative action
[22:30:10] <juggs> surely we also need to ensure we have an equal distribution of java bots, tcl bots, python bots, php bots etc. - it would be unfair otherwise
[22:31:03] <chromas> ah, you're right; we have at least to pybots here; not fair at all
[22:37:54] <crutchy_> and assembly bots. cos we dont want to be assist
[22:38:37] <crutchy_> or asmist
[22:38:39] <juggs> I leave that particular niche to your crutchy_ :P
[22:38:44] <juggs> you*
[22:38:48] <crutchy_> ass mist
[22:39:02] <chromas> I tried to print The Art of Assembly Language Programming at school once. Many pages, all gibberish. Must be broken fonts or something
[22:39:34] <chromas> pdf--
[22:39:34] <Bender> karma - pdf: -1
[22:40:09] <crutchy_> good book. I read all the architecture stuff. got bored when I reached the programming bit
[22:45:04] <chromas> don't think we have a java bot; not surprising
[22:46:06] <juggs> I did one once using the pircbot framework - worked well enough
[22:49:41] <juggs> http://www.jibble.org
[22:49:42] <monopoly> ^ 03PircBot - Java IRC Bot Framework (Java IRC API for Bots)
[22:49:52] <chromas> why is it not jirc?
[22:50:54] <juggs> no idea
[22:52:01] <chromas> it's to lull you in. You think it's going to be php or something but it turns out to be java, which you didn't want
[22:52:59] <juggs> mebbe. Wasn't problematic to use for what I wanted to do at the time.
[22:58:07] <paulej72> hello all
[22:58:08] <ciri> hi there paulej72
[22:58:21] <juggs> hey paulej72 - having a good day?
[22:59:01] <paulej72> not too bad. I was cleaning my apartment today.
[22:59:08] <paulej72> how about you juggs?
[23:00:07] <juggs> had a lazy one today. few loads of laundry was about it :D
[23:21:42] <paulej72> kind of quiet here tonight
[23:22:33] <paulej72> iced_coffee++
[23:22:33] <Bender> karma - iced_coffee: 4
[23:25:25] <juggs> usually is over the weekend
[23:25:55] <juggs> other than EF popping in rat arsed from time to time at least.
[23:26:15] <juggs> or perhaps ~pretending~ to be so ~shrug~
[23:42:08] <paulej72> juggs: he is probably just lonely
[23:42:23] <paulej72> since he probably do not get any
[23:51:22] <juggs> who knows.
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[23:55:29] <paulej72> Subsentient: glad to see you. I hope your new meds are tolerable :)
[23:59:22] * mrcoolbp tips hat to Subsentient
[23:59:48] <Subsentient> paulej72: They haven't taken effect yet unfortunately. I'm still in the OCFD nightmare
[23:59:51] <Subsentient> OCD*