#Soylent | Logs for 2014-09-20

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[00:15:39] <Lagg> I don't think there are any formats used by them that aren't reverse engineered and probably implemented in libav. The more likely explanation is that businesses are idiots and pay security companies that advertises themselves as competent just because they advertise themselves as competent.
[00:16:16] <crutchy> fear is a valuable commodity
[00:16:18] <swiss> JamesNZ: night capabilities?
[00:16:38] <Lagg> I've set a system up before so it's not exactly guesswork. These cameras don't just magically write unimplementable formats. At worst you'll deal with the old cassette writing ones and frankly if you're dealing with those still then quality is not something on your mind.
[00:16:40] <swiss> also, prob the storage size for recordings
[00:17:30] <crutchy> they're getting better. a lot of shops here have screens for customers to see that they're being videotaped. not bad quality many of them
[00:18:03] <Lagg> I've not set up a massive network like for some kind of 1000 floor building but I don't imagine there being much of a difference from camera to camera. Usually they just write out AVIs with stupid ad-hoc codecs that have no reason to not just be plain h264 because they mostly are. So ffmpeg probably reads it.
[00:18:44] <Lagg> You guys are giving them way too much credit though. The decision is almost always based on the security company's adverts. Except for when the company is technically inclined, in which case they just roll their own network.
[00:18:54] <crutchy> h264 is patented too i think yeah?
[00:19:07] <crutchy> prolly avi is too though
[00:19:35] <crutchy> i would havee thought they'd just do whatever is easiest to stream through the fewest wires
[00:19:40] <crutchy> coax maybe
[00:20:23] <crutchy> through i guess cat6 is ubiquitous in many buildings now. 8 wires would be pretty handy for a security cam
[00:20:28] <Lagg> They like using wireless ones right now. No it's not secure or robust but again they don't really care from all evidence.
[00:20:58] <Lagg> I'm of the mindset that they just want them for show primarily and for whatever insurance the security companies offer
[00:21:17] <JamesNZ> swiss: Maybe, but surely that wouldn't affect the frame rate. And storage is pretty cheap.
[00:21:26] <Lagg> They do after all love the prospect of someone to play musical blame shifting with
[00:23:43] <crutchy> gosh the pentagon is a pretty old crummy looking building really
[00:24:21] <Lagg> Amusingly it hasn't even been that long since they rebuilt a pretty good portion of it.
[00:24:53] <Lagg> The inside of it from what I've seen in documentaries and pictures looks like what we all imagine when we think of a real life version of office space but turned to 11 too.
[00:24:55] <crutchy> they have boardwalks along the roofs. who does that?
[00:25:35] * crutchy feels sorry for the security personnel who have to walk those
[00:25:42] <Lagg> I would imagine at the time it was built it was a strategic choice in case of a seige. Indeed pointless now though.
[00:25:43] <crutchy> in the rain
[00:27:02] <Lagg> Speaking of stuff like that I remember them also giving an explanation of the design of it. I can't remember if it was strategic or some kind of bullshit symbolism for unity and all that other stuff they like to market.
[00:27:38] <Lagg> I'm probably wrong but I think it was because a circular layout was the most efficient usage of space and it would make walking around the building shorter.
[00:28:47] <Lagg> I guess that's true enough since it'd probably take longer if it wasn't a pentagon but one would think there are better ways to shorten commutes from one part to another. But what do I know, I can barely design a UI let a lone architecture \_(o.O)_/
[00:28:48] <swiss> JamesNZ: storage is cheap, but think of how many cameras and such
[00:29:28] <swiss> 1080p is about 4GB/hour
[00:29:47] <swiss> so 4GB * 24 * number of cameras to keep 1080p video
[00:30:28] <crutchy> usually triggered by movement
[00:30:52] <crutchy> so at night might not use as much
[00:32:04] <crutchy> Lagg, the pentagon design looks like a fairly robust design (although the 9/11 thing kinda puts that to shame i guess)
[00:32:23] <crutchy> having buffer zones between levels of circles
[00:32:38] <crutchy> kinda goes with the whole security clearance level thingy
[00:33:17] * crutchy wonders if only super secret spies and high level government peoples can access the inner courtyard :p
[00:33:28] <JamesNZ> swiss: Well, you don't really need 1080p, but I see what you mean.
[00:34:37] <crutchy> is there new security camera software that reduces the quality of still areas like backgrounds?
[00:34:38] <Lagg> crutchy: Well considering that one of said documentaries showed the courtyard I think it's probably more open than the rest of it. Also it looks more boring than you'd expect
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[00:35:10] <crutchy> frames could be compressed a lot if only faces were kept detailed
[00:35:11] <Lagg> You ever see the parks where they have those really cheap looking things with shades over them which I forgot the name of
[00:35:14] <swiss> crutchy: smarter cameras should just up the resolution/not transcode to lower res when they see movement
[00:35:36] <Lagg> It's basically one of those in a generic bushy area
[00:36:03] * crutchy likes the australian parliament house. capital hill... that is really a hill :p
[00:36:11] <Lagg> I want to say bodega but I think that's the name of a type of store
[00:37:22] <SpallsHurgenson> a bodega is a corner deli or grocery store.
[00:37:48] <crutchy> http://95077ae8547a1b239f3b-5d2534a656ffdee95a27431d367b21fa.r54.cf1.rackcdn.com
[00:37:56] <SpallsHurgenson> well, not necessarily a CORNER, but usually :)
[00:37:59] <crutchy> fuck how about ^ for a subdomain
[00:39:05] <SpallsHurgenson> why do I think "bomb shelter" when I look at that?
[00:48:03] <crutchy> its a pretty amazing building. i only been there once, but its fkin humungous
[00:48:47] <crutchy> dunno how far down into the ground it goes. never bothered to look for that tbh
[00:48:50] * crutchy opens google
[00:49:35] <SpallsHurgenson> only a TERRORIST would be interested in the schematics of a government building!
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[00:50:54] <crutchy> ah crap now ima gunna have a bunch of feds knock down my front door
[00:51:04] <crutchy> they better fucken replace it!
[00:51:43] <crutchy> oh hang on our feds aren't on the same crack as US feds
[00:51:47] <SpallsHurgenson> 'merican Feds!
[00:52:18] <crutchy> oh man am i gunna have a bunch of yankees breakin down my front door?
[00:52:39] * crutchy pets his pet dropbear :p
[00:53:09] <SpallsHurgenson> might not be Yankees... could be good ol' boys... or Texans... or Californian feds!
[00:53:24] <crutchy> you're all yanks to me :D
[00:53:38] <crutchy> coffee++
[00:53:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 810
[00:54:00] <crutchy> ~define yank
[00:54:01] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Yank: 1. A term used by the British to describe all Americans. 2. A term used by American Southerners to a. describe Union Forces during the American Civil War; b. Post Civil War reference to Americans from...
[00:54:26] <crutchy> british!?
[00:54:48] <SpallsHurgenson> deal with it, Subject :)
[00:54:50] <crutchy> oh golly ol' chap i had better pull up my britches and be all proper like
[00:55:47] <crutchy> i think the reason why ireland stayed with the crown is same as why australia rejected a republic
[00:56:02] <crutchy> its good to be part of a union that doesn't interfere
[00:56:51] <crutchy> we're not subjects of the british government, only the british monarch, and i think its more of a symbolic thing which isn't so bad
[00:58:35] <crutchy> makes it unlikely that any commonwealth nations will ever get into a fight with each other cos we've all got a common ground
[00:59:34] <SpallsHurgenson> interesting pix of the extent of the Californian drought http://www.huffingtonpost.com
[00:59:35] <monopoly> ^ 03Watch California Dry Up Right Before Your Eyes In 6 Jaw-Dropping GIFs
[01:01:01] <crutchy> prolly high water usage
[01:01:28] <SpallsHurgenson> well, Americans like to put nice green lawns in our deserts :)
[01:01:49] <crutchy> we get that too. when you try to farm in places that shouldnt be farmed you may as well farm in outer space
[01:02:28] <SpallsHurgenson> there's more water in outer space than there is in California :)
[01:02:52] <SpallsHurgenson> bit more spread out and harder to get to, though :)
[01:03:22] <crutchy> in melbourne there was a massive sign on the side of a building (might still be there) showing the level of the major dam servicing the city. awareness helps a little
[01:04:22] <SpallsHurgenson> we need to be careful; there's not much water on earth :)
[01:05:32] <crutchy> hmm looks like there's a new building where the sign used to be :/
[01:08:33] <SpallsHurgenson> bad building! make it go away, crutchy!
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[01:28:05] <Ethanol-fueled> 2.5 pages left...looks like I'm on schedule to get obnoxiously drunk and banned tonight.
[01:28:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Or not.
[01:28:45] <Ethanol-fueled> It's nice to see SN and Pipedot settling into a more complimentary, rather than competitive, form.
[01:29:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Pipedot for the ultra-niche and Soylent News for more general stuff.
[01:30:53] <crutchy> how many pages Ethanol-fueled?
[01:30:54] <ciri> you talking to me?
[01:31:30] <crutchy> ciri, yo mama is so fat her rolls could end world hunger
[01:32:50] <JamesNZ> tama would be great at this.
[01:33:19] <Ethanol-fueled> 6.
[01:33:26] <Ethanol-fueled> at 4.5 done now.
[01:34:07] <Ethanol-fueled> writing sucks when it's not troll stories :(
[01:35:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Eh, it ain't so bad. I have to write about programming for a class assignment. At least it ain't like that dumbfuck English teacher I had who made the class write reports on his stories.
[01:36:14] <Lagg> Ethanol-fueled: Banned from what?
[01:36:34] <Ethanol-fueled> The only good aspect of that drivel was a future in which China owned America, and America was just a bunch of China-owned resorts and vacation-properties...and American citizens were enslaved as hospitality workers catering to the Chinese.
[01:37:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Lagg, it's a running joke that I get kicked and temporarily banned every Friday and Saturday night because I start drinking while in this channel.
[01:37:22] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't really mind, frankly, I'm surprised they put up with so much of my shit before they do.
[01:37:26] <Lagg> I see you but usually you do the kicking and banning to yourself
[01:37:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Lagg, yeah, one could interpret it that way.
[01:38:00] <Lagg> No I mean you literally just quit when you decide that you've hit your quota or something
[01:38:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Lagg -- those are my GOOD nights.
[01:38:25] <Lagg> At least that's my theory. I respect a good work ethic.
[01:38:50] <Lagg> Also this teacher, by his stories do you mean he literally made you write reports on alt history stories he himself wrote?
[01:38:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah.
[01:38:57] <Lagg> That's gutter-levels of low class
[01:39:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Lagg, and he also used a pen-name that contained some of his real-name, then explicitly let us all know that it was him.
[01:39:47] <Ethanol-fueled> He was probably going senile.
[01:40:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Still, the concept of China owning America as vacation property is less of a "fictional" idea now than it was then.
[01:40:53] <Lagg> That would be an understandable assumption if you were just minding your own business and your teacher used you to reinforce his communism hysteria
[01:40:55] <Ethanol-fueled> I think he even admitting to outsourcing most of his grading Mechanical Turk-style.
[01:41:16] <Ethanol-fueled> s/admitting/admitted
[01:41:16] * SedBot9000 offers Ethanal-fylod a /
[01:41:22] <Lagg> and people wonder why I think academia went to shit and has for a long time, especially in computer related subjects
[01:42:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, students' feet aren't held to the fire anymore.
[01:42:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Everybody has to get a medal for showing up to the race. So everything is kind and gentle.
[01:42:46] * Ethanol-fueled as a student is fine with that, haha
[01:43:04] <Ethanol-fueled> or just outright stupid.
[01:44:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Allright, back to the paper. I'll probably be back here after another 2.5 pages.
[01:44:19] <Ethanol-fueled> After that, it's weed and vino time.
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[02:01:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IBM Employees Get Skills Development Program - And 10 Percent Pay Cuts - http://sylnt.us - remedial-remedies
[02:05:23] <SpallsHurgenson> I hate the GOG.com website... they keep selling things I want to buy
[02:41:56] <Landon> SpallsHurgenson: what bastards
[02:45:49] <SpallsHurgenson> frankly, I just don't understand their strategy. You don't sell what people want; you make a product and then create the demand for it! They're doing it backwards!
[02:47:14] <SpallsHurgenson> some people just don't get capitalism, I guess
[02:48:47] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, I see you got the alignment and time format sorted on http://tmbvm.ddns.net - looks good (as much as I loathe month/day formats!)
[02:48:48] <monopoly> ^ 03Dev.SN Submissions
[02:51:14] <chromas> yyyy-MM-dd hh:mm:ss
[02:53:13] <crutchy> chromas++
[02:53:13] <Bender> karma - chromas: 35
[02:53:30] <crutchy> hoh noes! you lost 4boob :!
[02:55:50] * SpallsHurgenson perks up, "Did somebody mention boobs?"
[02:57:15] <crutchy> 33
[02:58:00] <SpallsHurgenson> I see quadruple-chins
[02:58:22] * crutchy is trying to figure out if direct stdin support for exec is more of a headache than its worth
[02:59:28] * SpallsHurgenson answerse sagely, "The answer, my son, is blowing in the wind."
[02:59:42] <crutchy> somebody show the man some bewbs! he's confusing boobs for chins!
[03:00:13] <crutchy> ~define bewbs
[03:00:15] <SpallsHurgenson> no, I just happen to see quadruple chins far more often than I see people with four boobies
[03:00:15] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3bewbs: boobs
[03:00:27] <crutchy> ud: lame
[03:00:31] <crutchy> ~define boobs
[03:00:33] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3boobs: things that guys like to play with
[03:00:36] <crutchy> lol
[03:00:46] <chromas> and girls—don't be sexist, ud
[03:01:11] <mrcoolbp> stupid bitpay can't figure out what we do
[03:01:24] <mrcoolbp> I'll set 'em straight
[03:01:28] * mrcoolbp does that
[03:01:57] <chromas> We provide opportunities
[03:02:09] <mrcoolbp> actually I'm pretty proud of this email
[03:02:55] <mrcoolbp> I'd paste it here but it'd flood the channel
[03:03:01] * mrcoolbp clicks send
[03:03:21] <SpallsHurgenson> remember, cursing makes any letter more professional!
[03:03:36] <mrcoolbp> oh damn, you're just a moment too late Spalls
[03:03:58] <chromas> mrcoolbp: just pipe it through EF when he stops in later
[03:04:06] <juggs> it can also result in account closure :D
[03:04:42] <mrcoolbp> juggs: I think they'll like this email
[03:04:49] * mrcoolbp forwards to juggs
[03:05:20] <crutchy> mrcoolbp, you have flood superpowahs
[03:05:22] * juggs opens mail... then wanders off to kill lungs with nicotine
[03:05:32] <mrcoolbp> crutchy I do, but I have tact as well = )
[03:05:43] * mrcoolbp hands juggs an e-cig
[03:05:46] <chromas> need a pastebin.soylentnews.org/
[03:05:48] <crutchy> tact!? wtf is that :p
[03:05:59] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: I'll explain when you're older
[03:06:00] <crutchy> ooh yeah
[03:06:03] <crutchy> chromas++
[03:06:03] <Bender> karma - chromas: 36
[03:06:14] <mrcoolbp> chromas: get on it then = )
[03:06:15] <crutchy> and imgbin.sylnt.us
[03:06:20] <chromas> or sylnt.us
[03:06:22] <chromas> yeah
[03:06:41] <mrcoolbp> make it happen, we would use it I imagine
[03:07:04] <crutchy> we all have web serverers here i guess
[03:07:09] * mrcoolbp did a 12-hour shift but still has work to do from home and goes to take care of it
[03:07:18] <crutchy> maybe a race is in order
[03:07:26] <crutchy> ready set... zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[03:07:28] <mrcoolbp> 3...2...1...Go
[03:07:43] <mrcoolbp> or 2...1..0 go?
[03:08:11] <crutchy> maybe after i muck around with this stdin thingy i might start something
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[03:08:29] <mrcoolbp> ROFL
[03:08:30] <exec> A scream from the crypt of St. Giles
[03:08:30] <exec> Resounded for miles upon miles.
[03:08:30] <exec> Said the friar, "Good gracious,
[03:08:30] <exec> The brother Ignatious
[03:08:30] <exec> Forgeteth the abbot hath piles."
[03:08:35] <Ethanol-fueled> seven pages banged the fuck out, it's pizza, beer, and weed time.
[03:08:38] <Ethanol-fueled> mrcoolbp
[03:08:43] <mrcoolbp> yah?
[03:09:05] <Ethanol-fueled> I've been thinking about drawing a Soylent news-themed comic kinda like XKCD, but obscene
[03:09:15] <mrcoolbp> oh gawdd
[03:09:27] <crutchy> didn't you already do that Ethanol-fueled?
[03:09:27] <Ethanol-fueled> I already have ideas for a couple strips.
[03:09:31] <Ethanol-fueled> no crutchy.
[03:09:34] <mrcoolbp> Dost thou hath a tablet?
[03:09:36] <crutchy> with the can thing that i whipped in in inventor
[03:09:45] <mrcoolbp> tablet = like a wacom or something
[03:09:47] <crutchy> you put a guy taking a dump on it
[03:09:52] <Ethanol-fueled> I suck with tablets. I'll just draw it by hand.
[03:09:53] <crutchy> :D
[03:09:59] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah crutchy, that was awesome.
[03:10:04] <arti> do it like oglaf
[03:10:05] <Ethanol-fueled> we should use that as the SN logo
[03:10:09] <Ethanol-fueled> OGLAF RULES.
[03:10:15] <arti> indeed.
[03:10:30] <mrcoolbp> Ethanol-fueled: I'm not sure an official comic should be "obscene" though it would likely be funny
[03:10:31] <crutchy> that dump can could be no. 1 for the SN XKCD
[03:10:50] <crutchy> xkcd.sylnt.us
[03:11:02] <Ethanol-fueled> mrcoolbp: embellishments would make it obscene. though it doesn;'t have to be obscene to be funny, just offensive.
[03:11:23] <crutchy> it could be adult funny like simpsons
[03:11:24] <arti> focus on master/slave/cable select
[03:11:48] <mrcoolbp> Offensive things can be funny, but we want to maintain an air of some kind of professionalism Ethanol-fueled
[03:11:49] <crutchy> need something with bacon++
[03:12:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Like, here's an idea for the first strip: it could show one person at their terminal, with computer-y lettered words coming from it saying "this content sucks" then another panel with the same saying "its not nerdy enough"
[03:12:35] <mrcoolbp> that's not really obscene...
[03:12:49] <crutchy> and one of those scrolling banner advert panels with the goatse image
[03:12:58] <Ethanol-fueled> ..the cut to the last panel showing a grown man in a high chair and soiled diaper throwing around baby food, typing another insult, with the parents saying, "he's 32 years old, do you think we should let him outside yet"
[03:13:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Okay, so that's not all that offensive.
[03:13:19] <arti> crutchy, as long as it's drawn it should be funny. do it with ascii art.
[03:13:24] <crutchy> make sure there's a shitstain somewhere
[03:13:33] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, I take it I told you about Annie, then?
[03:13:34] <arti> that should be the artist name
[03:13:47] <crutchy> shitstain annie? yeah i think so
[03:13:49] <Ethanol-fueled> you woudn't keep bringing that up if I didn't tell you.
[03:14:04] <juggs> how about a panel with some guy at a terminal surrounded by empty booze bottles and a second where a giant ban-hammer descends and and gorily squishes him? :D
[03:14:04] <ciri> doing great here
[03:14:12] <juggs> glad to hear it ciri
[03:14:19] <mrcoolbp> juggs: lol x2
[03:14:45] <crutchy> and one with a robot bending over with a garbage chute going into its ass
[03:14:48] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, i had an idea that showed in one panel "how soylent news imagines me" and look all rad with a laptop on a surfboard all buff with troll-horns and bitches...
[03:14:53] <juggs> mrcoolbp, I have an e-cig thing - damn thing gives me nearfatal hiccups every time I try using it
[03:15:08] <mrcoolbp> juggs: that's too much nic
[03:15:15] <mrcoolbp> try a lower mg/ml
[03:15:20] <Ethanol-fueled> ..and in teh next panel show the reality alone in my studio apartment with Infowars posters, semen-crusted furniture, empty booze bottles, and bloodshot eyes on my terminal.
[03:15:21] <juggs> hmm
[03:15:34] <mrcoolbp> Ethanol-fueled: I'm not convinced we should endorse this yet, I think it would take a LamX endorsement as this likely falls under editorial, though I realize you're likely half-joking
[03:15:37] <crutchy> infowars posters?
[03:16:02] <Ethanol-fueled> mrcoolbp, it won't be endorsed. It'll be in my journal and i'll include a disclaimer saying those views are my own and not the admins.
[03:16:14] <arti> then leak some altered ones
[03:16:19] * arti plots and schemes
[03:16:25] <mrcoolbp> ethanol and a NSFW disclaimer please sir =)
[03:16:28] <arti> say it was an icloud hack
[03:16:42] <crutchy> that guy was so funny when he did the interview with piers morgan. he fuckin pwned that fat gun grabbing baby groper so bad. i laughed
[03:17:06] <juggs> Interestingly on that train of thought Ethanol-fueled - when I looked in the mirror having fallen out of bed earlier, I was reminded of the 5% health dude avatar from doom (or was it quake?) - whichever
[03:17:20] <arti> lol
[03:17:21] <ciri> now that is funny
[03:17:22] <mrcoolbp> oom
[03:17:26] <mrcoolbp> doom*
[03:17:30] <arti> out of mana!
[03:17:41] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, that's like with the bloody nose and the droopy head?
[03:17:44] <crutchy> the sheep media focused on the bit where he raved on about 17 something will rise again. but there was a lot more that was good
[03:18:20] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, eyes looking like they were ready to bleed out. I should sleep more.
[03:18:36] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, teh only banhammer-related comic was mrcoolBp ejaculating at the joy of pressing the "ban" button on the keyboard
[03:18:39] <Ethanol-fueled> You;'re more serious.
[03:18:43] <crutchy> juggs, you need bewbs... bewbs cure all
[03:18:52] <Ethanol-fueled> And it's hard to imagine a person named "juggs" as being serious.
[03:18:55] <mrcoolbp> Ethanol-fueled: sounds pretty accurate
[03:19:05] <mrcoolbp> ROFL
[03:19:05] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[03:19:05] <exec> It's not the ups and downs of love, it's the ins and outs.
[03:19:11] <juggs> I'm never serious - until I am ~muahahahahahaha~
[03:19:46] <chromas> http://code.google.com
[03:19:47] <monopoly> ^ 03stikked - An advanced and beautiful pastebin written in PHP - Google Project Hosting
[03:19:49] <chromas> it's php, crutchy
[03:20:12] <chromas> oh, it already told you I guess
[03:20:28] <mrcoolbp> no but monopoly did
[03:20:52] <chromas> many of the pastebins don't seem to say what they're running
[03:21:04] <chromas> ubuntu, pasteall, ofcode, etc
[03:21:06] <juggs> mrcoolbp, liking the whole "mankind" thing you managed to roll into that mail :D
[03:21:17] <crutchy> surely can't be hard to write a pastebin
[03:21:29] * Ethanol-fueled reads stikked forum, full of spam.
[03:21:31] <crutchy> i prolly wouldn't use a db. just files
[03:21:31] <mrcoolbp> juggs: that's how I feel about this project
[03:21:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, you got "stikked" all right
[03:21:38] <chromas> Yeah but it needs suntax highlighting to be cool
[03:21:47] <mrcoolbp> s'why I'm so dedicated, I beleive in that
[03:21:48] <juggs> Saving mankind - one article at a time xD
[03:21:58] <mrcoolbp> juggs: kinda yeah
[03:22:04] <crutchy> yeah syntax highlighting is awesome
[03:22:08] <crutchy> gedit++
[03:22:08] <Bender> karma - gedit: 9
[03:22:28] <juggs> mrcoolbp, how's progress on the album?
[03:22:30] <mrcoolbp> juggs: so the email looked good?
[03:22:35] <juggs> yah
[03:22:50] <mrcoolbp> juggs: I'm sending in the album art tonight along with the dig. distribution application
[03:23:01] <crutchy> did you write a letter like the UN did in the south park movie?
[03:23:02] <mrcoolbp> we'll be ordering physical CDs soon too
[03:23:17] <crutchy> s/south park/team america/
[03:23:17] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> did you write a letter like the UN did in the team america movie?
[03:23:36] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: they said "We suspended your account 'cause we couldn't figure out what it is...ya do here"
[03:23:44] <mrcoolbp> they asked me to explain so I did
[03:23:57] <crutchy> mrcoolbp, CDs? cross-dressers?
[03:24:05] * mrcoolbp facepalms
[03:24:15] <chromas> crutchy: bank account
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[03:24:19] <mrcoolbp> yes crutchy....cross-dressers...
[03:24:32] <crutchy> moar cross-dressers!
[03:24:39] <mrcoolbp> yeah okay.
[03:24:43] <mrcoolbp> sure = )
[03:24:58] * crutchy puts on his best heels for the occasion
[03:26:02] <Ethanol-fueled> this place is full of traps.
[03:26:04] <chromas> how about semi-anonymous cowards?
[03:26:29] <crutchy> chromas, s/anonymous/autonomous/
[03:26:30] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> <chromas> how about semi-autonomous cowards?
[03:26:45] * mrcoolbp is confused about the preceeding 4 lines
[03:27:07] * juggs ties self to cross and wanders into town - is that the plan? Some kind of mass mock crucifixion flash mob type thing? I'm not sure I'm understanding my motivation in this part.
[03:27:13] * crutchy is too, and he's responsible for 2 of them
[03:27:21] <chromas> could generate a string/nick for an AC so they can have the same name while they're conversing in a thread, then get a new one whenever they feel like it
[03:27:45] <chromas> ~define trap
[03:27:47] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Trap: The area where drug deals are carried out
[03:27:54] <chromas> no no no, ud!
[03:27:59] <crutchy> what! nothing about boxes!
[03:28:04] <mrcoolbp> !uid
[03:28:04] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4797, owned by ls671
[03:28:05] <Ethanol-fueled> ~define cantaloupe_surprise
[03:28:15] <Ethanol-fueled> ~define tranny
[03:28:16] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3tranny: 1. transvestite 2. transsexual 3. transparency (photog.) 4. transit van (veh.)
[03:28:19] <exec> cantaloupe_surprise: unable to find definition
[03:28:36] <chromas> http://www.urbandictionary.com
[03:28:36] <monopoly> ^ 03Urban Dictionary: Trap
[03:28:38] <chromas> definition 2
[03:29:01] <chromas> You know, you're looking at her and then you realize there's a bulge where there shouldn't be
[03:29:07] <Ethanol-fueled> ~define hot lunch
[03:29:08] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3hot lunch: the act of shitting in clingfilm stretched over someones open mouth then fucking the mouth and at the point of ejaculation bursting through the clingfilm giving the recipiant a mouthful of shit and sp...
[03:29:16] <Ethanol-fueled> heeheehawhaw
[03:29:24] <crutchy> dayam!
[03:29:29] <crutchy> who does that?
[03:29:32] <Ethanol-fueled> ~define blumpkin
[03:29:33] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3blumpkin: The delicately balanced art of getting your cock sucked while taking a dump.
[03:29:43] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: GERMANS DO.
[03:29:57] <mrcoolbp> good lord guys, can we take it down a notch please?
[03:30:23] <crutchy> yeah wtf is wrong with german people!?
[03:30:29] <mrcoolbp> well....
[03:30:43] <crutchy> fucking weirdos
[03:31:06] <paulej72> !uid
[03:31:06] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4797, owned by ls671
[03:31:28] <crutchy> ~gday paulej72
[03:31:28] <exec> * crutchy insubordinately blows a bathtub of red cordial at paulej72
[03:31:41] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: bitpay account is "suspended" pending them reading my mail they asked me to write explaining what we do
[03:31:47] <mrcoolbp> just so ya know
[03:31:55] <crutchy> did you mention goatse.cx?
[03:32:02] <mrcoolbp> Naturally.
[03:32:13] <crutchy> they might start donating into said account if you do :D
[03:32:23] <chromas> we also offer hot grits
[03:32:31] <mrcoolbp> I mentioned that as well
[03:32:36] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: that is ok, I was working on zoo.pl tonight
[03:32:37] <mrcoolbp> and Natalie.
[03:32:42] <crutchy> and natalie portman's testicles
[03:32:45] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: anything cool?
[03:33:11] <crutchy> making it more bender-friendly?
[03:33:25] <paulej72> yes benderizing it
[03:33:36] <paulej72> op=max
[03:33:41] <crutchy> ooh
[03:33:48] <crutchy> ~cid
[03:33:49] <exec> max SN cid from articles in atom feed: 95747
[03:33:49] <juggs> Is that Scorpions TheZoo.pl ?
[03:34:00] <mrcoolbp> did anyone ever plot users/time on a graph?
[03:34:02] <crutchy> atom feed? fuck didn't i change that
[03:34:10] <crutchy> should be xml feed
[03:34:50] <chromas> mrcoolbp: you can still do that, right?
[03:34:56] <chromas> does it store when we signed up?
[03:35:16] <crutchy> tmb could suck out the data from the db
[03:35:17] <mrcoolbp> chromas, yeah, or we could just grep the bender logs
[03:35:35] <Ethanol-fueled> scorpions rule.
[03:35:39] <crutchy> he loves mysql queries :p
[03:35:40] <mrcoolbp> lol.
[03:35:53] <mrcoolbp> cruthy, did he go off to sleep yet?
[03:36:01] <mrcoolbp> er crutchy
[03:36:09] <crutchy> ~time TheMightyBuzzard
[03:36:10] <exec> Friday, 19 September 2014 @ 10:36 pm CDT - Ada, OK
[03:36:25] <crutchy> hmm maybe. he gets up between 5.30 and 6am
[03:36:33] <mrcoolbp> nod
[03:36:36] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, caught them live back in the late 80s - happy times :D
[03:36:50] <mrcoolbp> he was quoting a movie I think
[03:37:15] <crutchy> isn't that o'doyle rules!
[03:37:29] <Ethanol-fueled> lucky bastard
[03:37:45] <crutchy> or 'can i trouble you for a mint?'
[03:38:04] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: yeah, I'm too tired methinks
[03:38:49] * crutchy has nfi what he was going on about
[03:38:58] <crutchy> as usual
[03:39:14] <crutchy> don't mind me mrcoolbp :p
[03:39:31] * mrcoolbp isn't even minding himself
[03:39:32] <crutchy> i'm buzzin on half a bag of skittles :D
[03:39:41] <mrcoolbp> slow down there cowboy
[03:40:32] <crutchy> only about 100g or so
[03:41:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Home Depot Estimates Data on 56 Million Cards Stolen by Cybercriminals - http://sylnt.us - is-there-a-cardiologist-in-the-house?
[03:42:03] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, true - it was back when they were still doing provincial theatre sized gigs. /me is not a fan of arena gigs
[03:42:52] <juggs> man I sound old lol
[03:43:22] <mrcoolbp> jugg: nah, that's pretty cool actually
[03:45:44] <paulej72> ok here it is: http://dev.soylentnews.org
[03:45:45] <monopoly> ^ 03Max User
[03:46:10] <chromas> neat but
[03:46:23] <paulej72> but what?
[03:46:26] <chromas> does it need to use slash code?
[03:46:45] <paulej72> fastest way to do it
[03:46:47] <chromas> If you could pull straight from the db that would be less load and parsing, right
[03:46:54] <chromas> stand-alone script
[03:47:02] <paulej72> no not going to do the db outside of slash
[03:48:11] <mrcoolbp> nice work PJ
[03:48:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahah, somebody just stole my card data, made a fake, and tried to charge 700 bucks at Best Buy in La Jolla.
[03:48:29] <paulej72> the db access stuff is burried deep in slash and I do not want to access outside of slash
[03:48:41] <Ethanol-fueled> They probably got it from Home Depot.
[03:49:23] <Ethanol-fueled> the insult wasn't that they tried to fleece me for 700 bucks, it was that they associated my good name with all the evil rich Jews and Catholics of La Jolla.
[03:49:43] <mrcoolbp> I think we all assumed that
[03:50:01] <juggs> did your card issuer block it Eth ?
[03:50:05] <Ethanol-fueled> fuck yeah.
[03:50:16] <juggs> new cards all round then
[03:51:45] <crutchy> ~rehash
[03:51:46] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (78 aliases)
[03:51:49] <crutchy> ~uid
[03:52:02] <crutchy> ~uid
[03:52:04] <exec> *** max SN uid: The current maximum UID is 4027, owned by htmbv
[03:52:46] <crutchy> ~uid
[03:52:48] <exec> *** The current maximum UID is 4027, owned by htmbv
[03:52:53] <crutchy> bit nicer
[03:53:04] <crutchy> sorry couldn't help myself :p
[03:54:35] <juggs> you coding that up against dev.SN crutchy ?
[03:55:12] <crutchy> yeah\
[03:55:50] <crutchy> https://github.com
[03:55:53] <juggs> I've no idea why I asked - seemed pertinent at the time. ~shrug~
[03:56:12] <mrcoolbp> I was going to ask 'cause the UID was lower then prod
[03:56:42] * crutchy assumed it prolly not on prod yet
[03:58:16] <juggs> The way PJ and TMB are going with the incremental improvements I wouldn't be surprised to see a motion to move to rolling release rather than point updates.
[03:58:54] <crutchy> nightly.soylentnews.org :D
[03:59:26] <mrcoolbp> juggs: up to them as far as I'm concerned
[03:59:41] <juggs> that's probably pushing it crutchy :D
[04:00:01] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: that would require more than 2 volunteer devs
[04:00:26] <crutchy> i vote chromas :^D
[04:00:42] <juggs> mrcoolbp, indeed so, I have no opinion either way and it's so not my bag it'd be rude for me to have one in any case.
[04:00:53] <mrcoolbp> same
[04:02:28] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: should we throw up that funding progress bar tonight?
[04:02:28] * chromas slinks away into the corner
[04:02:42] * mrcoolbp tickles chromas
[04:02:49] <chromas> teehee!
[04:03:37] <paulej72> not toniight I just ran up aginst my max conentration time . Need to stop the coding :)
[04:04:05] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: well, maybe monday, not doing SN stuff this weekend, planning on a 24 hour work weekend
[04:04:17] <paulej72> OK then
[04:04:31] <paulej72> is anyone here good at python?
[04:04:45] <mrcoolbp> for me anyways, paulej72: if ya wanna do it for me, progress is $1500 now out of $13,250
[04:05:08] <paulej72> OK I can do that tomorrow
[04:05:10] <mrcoolbp> cool
[04:05:48] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: link to http://wiki.soylentnews.org too if ya could = )
[04:05:48] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03Finances: Our current funding goal is $10,000. Here's a breakdown:
[04:05:58] <mrcoolbp> oh, I should change that = )
[04:06:13] <chromas> One hundred billion…
[04:07:01] <mrcoolbp> fixed
[04:07:16] <mrcoolbp> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[04:07:17] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03Finances: Our current funding goal is $13,250. Here's a breakdown:
[04:07:20] <juggs> mrcoolbp, got time for a quick PM?
[04:07:23] <mrcoolbp> sure
[04:09:04] <Konomi> http://motherfuckingwebsite.com
[04:09:04] <monopoly> ^ 03Motherfucking Website
[04:09:08] <Konomi> okay this made me laugh
[04:09:18] <mrcoolbp> yeah, saw that, hilarious
[04:09:22] <Konomi> "This is a website. Look at it. You've never seen one before."
[04:09:24] <Konomi> best line ever
[04:09:27] <mrcoolbp> someone linked it here a few weeks ago
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[04:19:13] <Ethanol-fueled> we need a #!soylent where we can be like we are now, except with obscene insults and racial slurs.
[04:19:21] -!- Leebert [Leebert!~lsherida@jetppb.leebert.org] has joined #Soylent
[04:19:21] <Ethanol-fueled> no, call it #unsactioned.
[04:19:29] <Ethanol-fueled> that will fool them.
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[04:20:11] <Leebert> amazing how much time you can waste debugging your connection to an irc server when you're talking plaintext irc to the ssl port
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[04:20:15] <chromas> there's always ##
[04:20:25] <chromas> whoops
[04:20:48] <Leebert> I used to be technical. I guess I deserve this for taking a bureaucratic job. :)
[04:21:39] <crutchy> "This site doesn't care if you're on an iMac or a motherfucking Tamagotchi."
[04:21:42] <crutchy> ^gold
[04:21:50] <juggs> Konomi, thanks for that - I am chuckling
[04:23:50] * crutchy made his own js gallary to avoid a bloated piece of crap framework
[04:24:17] <chromas> crutchy: the thing to do is make your own framework without the bloat :D
[04:25:11] <juggs> What we need is a new standard.........................................................
[04:25:13] <juggs> :D
[04:25:35] <crutchy> all the js you need for a functional image gallery: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:25:36] <monopoly> ^ 03Ubuntu Pastebin
[04:26:17] <crutchy> generated by php of course :D
[04:26:21] <chromas> that's a lot of non-breaking spaces
[04:26:49] <crutchy> that's just cos my missus didn't give the images a description
[04:26:57] <crutchy> it's a feature :D
[04:33:38] <crutchy> running a debian+gnome3 vbox and a winxp vbox on a win7 laptop with 4gb of ram. wonder how this will go
[04:34:49] <juggs> just fine as long as you watch your ram allocations.
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[04:47:53] <juggs> Steamrock Fever \o/
[04:50:03] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[04:50:04] <monopoly> ^ 03GG Allin - Die When You Die (Subtitulado Español) - YouTube
[04:50:14] <Ethanol-fueled> ...
[04:50:16] <Ethanol-fueled> ..
[04:51:21] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, non-official site channels are mostly unpatrolled in these parts. Just don't name you channel so it could be confused with an official one. I'm sure thousands will come to hear you words of rambling goodness.
[04:52:03] <Ethanol-fueled> I like kittens.
[04:52:08] <juggs> seems my "r" key is not working as well as it should lol
[04:56:48] <juggs> KonomiNetbook, you know what makes me laugh more? It's that http://motherfuckingwebsite.com wants me to run some JS to present what is just a plain text page. I guess they can die in a fire too eh? :D
[04:56:48] <monopoly> ^ 03Motherfucking Website
[04:59:07] <crutchy> has a useless 'viewport' meta tag
[04:59:20] <crutchy> stupid indenting
[04:59:25] <crutchy> who indents html?
[04:59:48] <crutchy> and google spy shit
[04:59:52] <Ethanol-fueled> a german scheiss-schitter
[05:00:17] <Ethanol-fueled> They are coprophiles, with coprophile spying habits.
[05:02:37] <arti> !decide cool uncool
[05:02:38] <ciri> The roll of the dice picks: uncool.
[05:02:44] <arti> i find these things uncool.
[05:02:54] <arti> i am outraged
[05:03:02] <SirFinkus> did someone say something about coprophagia?
[05:03:05] <SirFinkus> I was highlighted
[05:03:06] * arti adds this to the $mood
[05:03:18] <crutchy> and in the about txti page he doesn't actually explain wtf txti is. fag
[05:03:31] <arti> coprophagia beamicus
[05:04:03] <Konomi> juggs: textception
[05:04:15] <arti> isn't that what viewing source is
[05:04:35] <juggs> Konomi, no idea what that means
[05:04:47] <crutchy> if that motherfucking website guy really wanted to make a decent website, he would have uploaded a txt file. html is for fags
[05:04:51] <arti> someone: "oh boy, neato website stuff *viewing noises* we need to go deeper"
[05:05:04] <arti> >implying something is wrong with fags
[05:05:32] <arti> you just hate txts
[05:05:36] <crutchy> fag is such a sensual word
[05:05:46] * arti rests his fag upon crutchy's toe
[05:05:58] <arti> no sir, i don't see it.
[05:06:00] <Konomi> juggs: play on inception
[05:06:23] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[05:06:23] <monopoly> ^ 03Frank Zappa - Keep it Greasy (live) - YouTube
[05:06:27] <arti> crutchy!
[05:06:33] <arti> should we add that to the adjective list?
[05:06:44] <crutchy> fag?
[05:06:47] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[05:06:48] <monopoly> ^ 03Frank Zappa - Keep it Greasy (live) - YouTube
[05:06:56] * arti twirls mustache
[05:06:57] <Konomi> juggs: http://www.urbandictionary.com
[05:06:57] <monopoly> ^ 03Urban Dictionary: Inception
[05:07:07] <crutchy> ef is wiped out :p
[05:07:19] <Ethanol-fueled> The niggers are uppity.
[05:07:28] <Ethanol-fueled> sod off fokkers
[05:07:32] <arti> [Said People Uppifying]
[05:07:46] <crutchy> uppity++
[05:07:46] <Bender> karma - uppity: 1
[05:07:57] <Ethanol-fueled> coffee++
[05:07:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 811
[05:08:06] <crutchy> bewbs++
[05:08:06] <Bender> karma - bewbs: 17
[05:08:26] <Ethanol-fueled> none of you motherfuckers have experienceddd boobs
[05:08:32] <arti> yeah, it's called help desk.
[05:08:43] <arti> "MY INTERNET WINDOW!"
[05:08:50] <crutchy> your prolly right. i have nfi what those bulbous funbags are on my wife's chest
[05:09:02] <Popeidol> crutchy: probably some kind of growth.
[05:09:04] <Popeidol> you should take her to a doctor.
[05:09:15] <arti> i thought they were for impact defelection.
[05:09:17] <crutchy> they taste good
[05:09:22] * arti is undefeated
[05:09:39] <Ethanol-fueled> suck ths this DICXK
[05:09:41] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHHAHA
[05:09:42] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[05:09:43] <monopoly> ^ 03Frank Zappa - Keep it Greasy (live) - YouTube
[05:09:51] <arti> an apt title
[05:09:54] <crutchy> where can i get more of this tasty growth
[05:09:56] <ciri> hmmm thats a good question crutchy
[05:10:02] * arti pets ciri
[05:10:11] <arti> precioussssssss
[05:10:43] <Ethanol-fueled> sod offf, fuilthy fucks
[05:10:54] <arti> so i had fresh jackfruit for the first time recently, pretty cool
[05:11:11] <arti> those are the kind you like ef.
[05:11:16] <arti> projecting much
[05:11:42] <Popeidol> I wonder if there's a guy called 'jack fruit' and how that affects his life
[05:11:50] <Ethanol-fueled> im high
[05:11:57] <Ethanol-fueled> youre projecting.
[05:12:03] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm laughing
[05:12:22] <crutchy> is that another word for masturbating?
[05:12:27] <Ethanol-fueled> sod off you fucksticks.
[05:12:39] <Ethanol-fueled> you all will blat!
[05:12:46] <crutchy> blat++
[05:12:46] <Bender> karma - blat: 1
[05:12:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck off, you shitsticks.
[05:13:00] <crutchy> moar blat!
[05:13:01] * arti adds to $nouns
[05:13:28] <crutchy> blat work and blat play makes blat a blat blat
[05:13:43] <Ethanol-fueled> madee from alother lube.pp HAHFHF
[05:14:14] <Ethanol-fueled> fuck you, get ready for the fist fight
[05:14:29] <arti> that totally happens on irc.
[05:14:45] <crutchy> !fight
[05:14:49] <crutchy> ~fight
[05:14:54] <crutchy> i got nuthin
[05:15:02] <arti> one time on irc, this guy hit this other one through the...
[05:15:08] <arti> $noun
[05:15:20] <arti> it was $adjective.
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[05:19:38] <juggs> remind me never to go to a bar with EF - it's like that friend who is totally normal until they have 3 drinks and when your back is turned start punching the bouncers for no apparent reason. Does not compute.
[05:20:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Inkjet Printers and Chemical Reaction Screening - http://sylnt.us
[05:22:18] <juggs> Konomi, yeah - the taco within a taco thing really helped. I feels enlightened.
[05:22:55] <Konomi> I was hoping to find something better but eh ;p
[05:23:22] <juggs> can't win them all champ :D
[05:27:24] <juggs> I find it interesting when allegedly NZ based contacts americanise words such as "destabilize". Any NZ'ers care to comment? I thought you guys still used the s rather than the z in such things.
[05:28:03] <arti> he could be used as a dare
[05:28:12] <arti> "whomever loses has to go!"
[05:34:36] <juggs> it's a punishment too far arti.
[05:37:12] <arti> makes winning a lot more interesting
[05:39:26] <juggs> Just no. The whole idea is inhumane.
[05:40:14] <crutchy> i'm from the other nz so not sure if it counts, but i generally use z in programming and when talking to americans. otherwise s
[05:43:47] <crutchy> ~restart
[05:43:48] <exec> successfully saved buckets file
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[05:45:39] <juggs> It's interesting - in words such as stabilize / stabilise we do tend to pronounce that last syllable with a zzz yet seeing it spelt with z makes me twitch. I should probably be concerned about something that matters rather than natural language that always morphs.
[05:46:41] <crutchy> what about cl spk
[05:47:36] <juggs> doesn't parse at all, it goes to /dev/null
[05:49:37] <arti> craigslist speak
[05:50:03] <crutchy> cool speak from phones before predictive text
[05:50:25] <crutchy> for => 4, late => l8 etc
[05:55:21] <juggs> yes yes - makes sense to charge by the SMS character when it's being slotted into the unused space on the control channels - data that would be sent anyway as padding. ~sigh~ /me sighs and sighs again
[06:03:28] <Popeidol> I think it was mostly because you had to mash a key multiple times for each letter, it was a serious timesaver.
[06:04:39] <Popeidol> 'for' takes 9 keypresses, '4' takes 4
[06:05:54] <Popeidol> (results verified on a nokia 2280 for true scientific rigour)
[06:08:57] <crutchy> surely we can find an emulator somewhere, for extra geek cred
[06:10:19] <arti> or write it in $language
[06:10:34] <arti> !decide php perl asm coboloncogs
[06:10:36] <ciri> The roll of the dice picks: php.
[06:10:37] <crutchy> why run a phone on a little brick with a battery when you can simulate it on an intel i7 with 8gb ram and a 2gb graphics card with 2 23 inch displays! (or whatever you have)
[06:10:50] * crutchy pets ciri
[06:11:05] <arti> "you haven't truely experienced _____ until you've used the $emulator"
[06:11:06] <crutchy> that'll do pig
[06:11:35] <JamesNZ> !decide vim emacs
[06:11:37] <ciri> The roll of the dice picks: vim.
[06:11:47] <crutchy> you haven't truly experienced kissing till you've used the realistic kissing simulator
[06:11:48] * JamesNZ slaps ciri
[06:11:48] <juggs> Agreed Popeidol - it saves the key stabbing effort. But being charged for sending something in the control channels that are already padding out so the txt sms incurs no burden on the carrier? StepTooFar++
[06:12:19] <crutchy> http://www.youtube.com
[06:12:19] <monopoly> ^ 03Realistic Kissing Simulator - YouTube
[06:13:50] <juggs> wouldn't it be easier to just find someone to kiss rather than build a machine?
[06:14:31] <crutchy> "what the actual fuck"
[06:14:38] * arti now checks
[06:15:22] <juggs> oh I was supposed to click on it and watch a vapid YT vid
[06:15:35] <crutchy> "the real question is, can i lick her eye?"
[06:16:17] <juggs> only if she's dead and you can lick it before the cops show up..... I think
[06:18:39] <crutchy> monopoly is now a youtube cacher
[06:18:59] <juggs> and the world died a little inside
[06:20:12] * juggs init 0 night all, be good to one another
[06:20:23] <crutchy> see ya buddy
[06:20:26] <crutchy> sleep well
[06:20:49] <arti> niote
[06:21:10] <crutchy> so you're an expert kisser now arti?
[06:21:17] <crutchy> or expert eye-licker :/
[06:21:23] <arti> i watched it
[06:21:28] <arti> dominion man
[06:21:57] <crutchy> i'm php man
[06:22:08] * crutchy plays superman music
[06:22:26] <crutchy> and puts cape on and wears undies on the outside
[06:22:57] <crutchy> and what's my superpower?
[06:23:01] <crutchy> i don't know!
[06:23:10] * crutchy plays superman music
[06:24:38] <crutchy> ~time new dork
[06:25:04] <crutchy> stupid bot
[06:25:28] <arti> we'd be doomed if they were smart
[06:25:34] * arti would also be secretly proud
[06:27:54] <Popeidol> my girlfriend walked in while I was watching that video with the sound turned off
[06:28:00] <Popeidol> awkward conversation ensued.
[06:29:30] <crutchy> oh... fuck... off... http://www.theaustralian.com.au
[06:29:48] <crutchy> Popeidol, we're now truly americanized
[06:29:58] <crutchy> "A new offence would also make it illegal for anyone to advocate a terrorist act, even if the act never occurs."
[06:30:06] <crutchy> so much for fucking free speech
[06:30:30] <crutchy> who decides if you're advocating or just dicussing?
[06:30:44] <Popeidol> perfectly timed to coincide with 'anti terror raids' last week
[06:31:05] <Popeidol> which as far as I can tell, was more 'premeditated murder raids'
[06:32:07] <JamesNZ> A 'terror attack' is usually identical to 'premeditated murder'.
[06:32:31] <arti> isn't that why they have the ladies floating in the water
[06:33:00] <crutchy> JamesNZ, you guys might want to erect a wall in the tasman sea, so that our retarditis doesn't infect your politicians too
[06:33:20] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Ok :D
[06:34:08] <Popeidol> JamesNZ: possibly, but a few people plotting to kill one guy used to be called something like 'conspiracy' right?
[06:34:16] <crutchy> i thought the liberal party were supposed to be the conservatives in australia
[06:34:18] <Popeidol> and is, you know, covered by existing laws?
[06:35:06] <crutchy> they should quit wasting money on bullshit
[06:35:48] <JamesNZ> Popeidol: If you define a conspiracy to be on-going-until-everyone-we-don't-like-is-dead and religiously motivated.
[06:36:03] <Popeidol> that sounds about right
[06:36:58] <crutchy> but it doesn't have the word 'terrorism' in it so its not good enough
[06:37:03] <JamesNZ> Conspiracies tend to end quicker.
[06:37:21] <Popeidol> "The new powers would include Foreign Minister Julie Bishop being able to declare regions or cities in countries where terror groups are active as proscribed places."
[06:37:29] <Popeidol> as somebody in julie bishops electorate
[06:38:00] <Popeidol> I can safely say that the phrase 'give julie bishop more power' should never be uttered
[06:38:05] <crutchy> is julie bishop a lib? fiik
[06:38:52] <crutchy> oh yeah if shes a minister i guess she is
[06:39:23] <crutchy> so australia is going to start making blacklists and drawing red lines now too
[06:39:26] <crutchy> brilliant
[06:39:58] <JamesNZ> Hmm, does sound rather similar to 'murica.
[06:40:26] <crutchy> now all we need is to start waving nukes around at small impoverished countries that have something we want
[06:41:15] <JamesNZ> You mean New Zealand? :P
[06:41:23] <crutchy> oops did i say nukes... australia doesn't have nukes :p
[06:42:12] <crutchy> nah if our government starts picking on NZ its gunna face some serious backlash... from your NRL team
[06:42:23] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[06:43:22] <crutchy> and a shitload of dropbear-wielding blue collar miners
[06:43:38] * arti imagines a crowd of these
[06:43:46] <arti> menacing
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[06:48:18] <Popeidol> I'd rather we start making nukes tbh
[06:48:21] <crutchy> australia never gunna fight with NZ except in the arena where it belongs
[06:48:28] <Popeidol> at least that would be fun
[06:48:41] <Popeidol> and boost the economy and so on
[06:49:00] <crutchy> Popeidol, nod nod. we have one of the worlds biggest uranium supplies
[06:49:44] <crutchy> lets use it to make 50,000 missiles. then go wave them at washington
[06:49:56] <Popeidol> I'd be okay with just one
[06:50:07] <Popeidol> just so we can claim to be a nuclear power
[06:50:36] <crutchy> we probably already have one
[06:50:50] <crutchy> i mean "no nukes!" :p
[06:51:57] <Popeidol> we may have for a while there
[06:52:04] <Popeidol> it was just privately owned: http://weirdaustralia.com
[06:52:59] <crutchy> we were a nuke testing ground for years, we have endless supplies of fuel and no shortage of capacity to build them. i wouldn't be surprised if it eventually turns out that the raaf has something up their sleeves
[06:55:20] <arti> secret taco bell research facilities
[07:00:46] <Konomi> speical sauce iv drip stat
[07:21:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What to Expect with Windows 9 - http://sylnt.us - looking-behind-the-screen
[07:24:09] <crutchy> no desktop
[07:24:28] <crutchy> no more support for w32
[07:25:16] <crutchy> ooh Microsoft Bob 2015
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[08:07:32] <exec> 00,08t00,09e00,12s00,02t00,06i00,04c00,07l00,08e00,09s00,12 00,022
[08:07:49] <crutchy> coooooool
[08:20:31] <crutchy> if i went to alaska i could have my saturday all over again
[08:20:38] <crutchy> 3_day_weekend++
[08:20:38] <Bender> karma - 3_day_weekend: 1
[08:46:35] <crutchy> happy_wheels++
[08:46:35] <Bender> karma - happy_wheels: 1
[09:11:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Study Shows Humans Not Cause of Murder Among Chimpanzees - http://sylnt.us
[09:28:49] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[09:28:49] <Bender> karma - fedora: 18
[09:31:37] * chromas should try it again
[09:32:55] <chromas> Not that I'd leave arch but one of the reasons I quit texting fedora was that security thing everyone turns off
[09:33:23] <chromas> s/x/s/
[09:40:15] * chromas wonders why american TV shows are always "all new" now. And fast food prices are always "just $x.99"
[09:40:40] * chromas shakes fist
[09:41:37] <crutchy> tv? shows?
[09:43:35] <chromas> Yeah. It's always "an all-new Futurama". They always say all new. I guess the other option is the dreaded clip show
[09:44:16] * crutchy wonders what its like in colorado, arizona, new mexico etc
[09:44:22] <crutchy> always wanted to visit there
[09:44:45] <crutchy> just not when its infested with TSA and progressives
[09:45:08] <chromas> Progressive is better than interlaced
[09:45:17] <crutchy> true
[09:46:00] * chromas remembers before hd TV, when it was called non-interlaced
[09:46:13] * chromas shakes fist
[09:47:45] <chromas> crutchy: the thing to do is go to Cuba or Mexico, then swim or walk across the border
[09:48:24] * crutchy opens google maps and plonks the little street view dude in new mexico somewhere
[09:49:20] <chromas> Wes' siyeeduh
[09:50:12] <crutchy> coooool. i have nfi what this is or where exakery, but this is what i ended up with: http://picpaste.com
[09:51:10] <chromas> Most of the country'a pretty decent except for New York, Florida, dc and southern California
[09:52:00] <chromas> Ooh
[09:52:17] <JamesNZ> chromas: SELinux? Yeah, lot's of people don't like that.
[09:52:47] <crutchy> prolly infiltrated by the NSA
[09:52:49] <JamesNZ> lots*
[09:52:57] <JamesNZ> It's developed by the NSA :P
[09:53:09] <JamesNZ> (yes, really)
[09:53:25] <chromas> It was about three or so years ago. I did an update and that turned it on or changed the rules because suddenly I got errors for everything.
[09:54:14] <JamesNZ> Weird.
[09:54:48] <crutchy> sudo apt-get uninstall selinux-do-as-nsa-says-or-they-suicide-you
[09:54:48] <chromas> Oh, I want to adjust the time using kde's control thing. "fuck off, loser!"
[09:55:35] <chromas> No button to make a new rule or whatever, just said I needed to make one
[09:55:37] * JamesNZ stays well away from KDE
[09:55:44] <crutchy> gnome++
[09:55:44] <Bender> karma - gnome: 1
[09:55:49] <chromas> Ew
[09:55:59] <crutchy> even gnome3 aint bad in classic mode
[09:56:15] <JamesNZ> gnome--
[09:56:16] <Bender> karma - gnome: 0
[09:56:24] * crutchy still prefers icons on the desktop
[09:56:26] <JamesNZ> gnome-hell.
[09:56:48] * crutchy has xfce on his desktop but doesn't use it very often
[09:57:13] <chromas> I kind of like Cinnamon but there's still not many options, like moving the panel around
[09:57:22] <crutchy> all the gnome hype was just for the fucked up unity looking thing
[09:57:23] <JamesNZ> openbox++
[09:57:23] <Bender> karma - openbox: 3
[09:57:30] <crutchy> ooh yeah
[09:57:35] <crutchy> open_box++
[09:57:35] <Bender> karma - open_box: 1
[09:57:37] <chromas> Box++
[09:57:37] <Bender> karma - box: 8
[09:58:10] * chromas puts a rod in tama's box
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[11:10:49] <crutchy> ~time chicago
[11:10:50] <exec> Saturday, 20 September 2014 @ 6:10 am CDT - Chicago, IL
[11:11:11] * chromas wonders what paulej72 was up to with python
[11:12:14] <chromas> tmb's late huh
[11:13:42] <crutchy> i think bender is python
[11:13:57] <chromas> it is
[11:14:06] <crutchy> maybe part of the uid upgrade
[11:14:09] <crutchy> ~uid
[11:14:11] <exec> *** The current maximum UID is 4027, owned by htmbv
[11:14:13] <crutchy> ^^^
[11:14:19] <crutchy> but for bender
[11:14:24] <chromas> oh oops
[11:14:34] <chromas> hah, was thinking you said "Blender" but yeah, him too
[11:14:55] <chromas> shiny python ass
[11:15:53] <crutchy> is it just me or is that last uid look vaguely familiar
[11:16:24] <chromas> yeah
[11:16:32] <chromas> but aren't you still pointing at dev.?
[11:16:55] <crutchy> hmm apparently ctrl+l is not good to press in xchat
[11:17:02] <crutchy> oh yeah :p
[11:17:05] <chromas> what'd you do?
[11:17:29] <chromas> http://www.youtube.com
[11:17:30] <monopoly> ^ 03Tommy Boy (What'd Ya Do?) - YouTube
[11:17:41] <crutchy> cleared the screen and blew away history
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[11:17:48] <chromas> oh shit
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[11:18:24] <crutchy> phew. its still there
[11:19:13] <chromas> doesn't work in hexchat
[11:19:18] <chromas> no shortcut for it
[11:20:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Court Agrees to Restores Deleted Records - http://sylnt.us - should-try-this-with-emails-too
[11:21:05] <chromas> ooh, could use a ?op=maxuser too
[11:21:13] <chromas> I mean commend
[11:21:14] <chromas> t
[11:22:14] <crutchy> to find last comment url?
[11:23:07] <crutchy> no comments in last half hr
[11:23:08] <chromas> yeah, or at least its number
[11:23:30] <crutchy> cid no good without sid unfortunately
[11:23:59] <chromas> ah yeah, needs two variables then
[11:24:03] <crutchy> can use ~cid to get reasonably latest cid though
[11:24:18] <crutchy> exec can be a slash api :p
[11:24:26] <chromas> actually, I was thinking for exec
[11:24:32] <chromas> but you store the last one you saw anyway
[11:24:37] <crutchy> ~cid
[11:24:38] <exec> max SN cid from articles in xml feed: 95808
[11:25:12] <chromas> kind of silly that you need the sid but the cid isn't unique to it
[11:26:27] <crutchy> yeah i personally wouldn't have designed it that way, but i guess they had their reasons and i've never made a program like slash so they might be good reason for all i know
[11:26:48] <crutchy> slash--
[11:26:48] <Bender> karma - slash: -1
[11:27:00] <chromas> probably just added moar complexity over tiem and now it looks like that
[11:27:16] <crutchy> lol kinda like exec :/
[11:27:27] <chromas> yeah but exec's cool
[11:28:10] <crutchy> but it doesn't blend :(
[11:28:57] <chromas> slash blends your brain
[11:29:22] <crutchy> farticle is still running
[11:29:24] <crutchy> lol
[11:29:25] <ciri> lol damn!
[11:29:57] <crutchy> need to make a wiki page for how to use that bot scripty
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[11:30:30] <crutchy> nighty night for now
[11:30:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Court Agrees to Restore Deleted Records - http://sylnt.us - should-try-this-with-emails-too
[11:31:55] <chromas> ~g'night crutchy
[12:29:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> morning--
[12:29:48] <Bender> karma - morning: -1
[12:31:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Some IBM Employees get Skills Development Program — and 10 Percent Pay Cuts - http://sylnt.us - remedial-remedies
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[12:44:23] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:44:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 812
[12:44:27] <Bytram> !uid
[12:44:27] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4925, owned by anubi
[12:45:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> no coffee for me today. well not much anyway. just enough to keep the caffeine headaches at bay.
[12:45:45] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: g'morning!
[12:45:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> back atcha
[12:46:04] <Bytram> trying to quit? or just cut down?
[12:46:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> having blood pressure issues since wednesday. think my kidneys ain't processing it out quick enough.
[12:47:05] <Bytram> nod nod; hope there's no kidney stones (blegh!)
[12:47:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> you n me both
[12:47:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> think it's mostly cleared up though. pulse ain't racing this am
[12:47:47] <Bytram> I have a friend who's been passing them pretty regularly for a few months. I cannot even BEGIN to imagine!
[12:48:43] <Bytram> that's GOOD news!
[12:49:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, stlll taking it easy on them for today at least
[12:49:14] <Bytram> ~weather TheMightyBuzzard
[12:49:15] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK - currrently 70°F, overcast, wind S at 9 mph, humidity 100% - Saturday chance of storm (88°F, 66°F), Sunday chance of storm (88°F, 57°F), Monday partly cloudy (79°F, 61°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (79°F, 57°F) - source: Google
[12:49:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> and cutting out any afternoon/evening caffeine except on special occasions
[12:49:52] <Bytram> yup, that's got to help.
[12:50:03] <Bytram> BTW, it's hard to tell, but it appears we are approaching comment number 99,999
[12:50:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[12:50:36] <Bytram> do you know how bender does the "!uid" thing? Would be nice to have a "!sid" analog
[12:50:51] <Bytram> ugh, !cid
[12:51:06] <Bytram> hmm, maybe both!
[12:51:12] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[12:51:13] <exec> Weather for Boston, MA - currrently 56°F, clear, wind NE at 4 mph, humidity 68% - Saturday partly cloudy (73°F, 63°F), Sunday thunderstorm (81°F, 63°F), Monday partly cloudy (75°F, 50°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (70°F, 52°F) - source: Google
[12:51:14] * TheMightyBuzzard checks
[12:51:21] <Bytram> LOL!
[12:53:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> wish i remembered how to do max on a column in mysql
[12:54:33] <Bytram> hmm, SELECT max(column_name) FROM tablename;
[12:54:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like 95827 at the moment
[12:55:25] <Bytram> nice!
[12:56:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> think we need a utility.pl that can return little tidbits like that
[12:56:39] <Bytram> that's a GREAT idea! Implement it as a cgi-bin interface?
[12:57:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> baby API. return json or plaintext as you specify.
[12:58:07] <Bytram> I was thinking along the lines of subscribe.pl and search.pl ... tell me more about what you are thinking
[12:58:32] * Bytram thinks we need to be careful about introducing a potential DOS vector
[12:59:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm thinking a new little perl script like api.pl or utility.pl that doesn't do anything but utility functions
[13:00:12] <Bytram> okay, I get the concept, but I'm pretty fuzzy on json... how do you envision it would be invoked?
[13:00:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> if we write the sql statements right, there won't be any more potential for dos than there would for anything else that hits the db.
[13:00:24] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:00:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> /api.pl?op=uid or ?op=cid
[13:01:27] <Bytram> interesting...
[13:02:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe even add in ops to post or read comments/submissions/articles
[13:02:14] <Bytram> how about: /utility.pl?op=uid.max or ?op=cid.max
[13:02:39] * Bytram is trying to think in generalized terms.
[13:02:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure sure. naming's arbitrary
[13:03:13] <Bytram> agreed, but the design of a language can greatly affect its usability down the line...
[13:04:12] <Bytram> maybe like: m=uid&op=max
[13:04:23] <Bytram> ugh. hold on
[13:04:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> no thas okay
[13:05:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> m=uid&op=lookup&nick=the+mighty+buzzard
[13:05:36] <Bytram> maybe like: /utility.pl?op=max&item=uid
[13:05:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> m for method is fine
[13:06:38] <Bytram> that was a mistake on my end... hexchat has a backward idea of what "insert" on the keyboard does compared to how I have it set in CMD.exe
[13:06:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm
[13:08:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks to be a fun little project
[13:09:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> and crutchy at least would love it
[13:09:44] <Bytram> agreed! let's think it through for a bit... what else, besides max of sid, cid, uid would be interesting?
[13:09:56] <Bytram> story submission count?
[13:10:10] <Bytram> number of logged-in users?
[13:10:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep. queued stories.
[13:10:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> possible
[13:10:18] <Bytram> number of currently active ACs
[13:10:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto
[13:10:31] <Bytram> hrm, gotta watch out for Varnish, though
[13:10:39] <Bytram> yeah, crutchy would LOVE this!
[13:10:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> no worries, set no-cache
[13:10:53] <Bytram> um, where?
[13:11:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> in the http headers of what we return
[13:11:50] <Bytram> oh! I was thinking about *getting* the values; varnish's cacheing might distort what you can *see* in the DB
[13:12:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh no. db caching is done via memcached and you have to specifically enable that
[13:12:23] <Bytram> ok.
[13:12:52] <Bytram> I have a more interesting thought, though...
[13:13:03] <Bytram> what if, in addition to posting the number of comments on a story, we included the number of VIEWS it has had.
[13:13:36] <Bytram> hang on... I just got a couple txt msgs on my phone, which I have tethered to get on-line. I may disappear at any moment
[13:13:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno how to get that. from stats.soylentnews.org maybe but i dunno how to interface with that
[13:13:44] <Bytram> brb
[13:13:46] <ciri> ok Bytram
[13:16:44] <Bytram> might get pulled away agin, but back for the moment.
[13:17:13] <Bytram> take a look at how we construct the table which lists the stories in the queue
[13:17:28] * Bytram thinks it is at: http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:29] <monopoly> ^ 03- SoylentNews User ( http://soylentnews.org )
[13:17:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't on live
[13:17:52] <Bytram> should work on dev... hold on
[13:17:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> does
[13:18:01] <Bytram> http://dev.soylentnews.org
[13:18:02] <monopoly> ^ 03- Dev.SN User ( http://dev.soylentnews.org )
[13:18:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> but i just recently wrote a new sub that lets you get only the pending but not published stories
[13:18:35] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: according to paulej72 there is some 'adjustment' performed to add a guestimate for ACs (IIRC)
[13:19:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> what for counting users?
[13:19:06] <Bytram> but, we should still, if I understand correctly, be able to get the LUV (Logged-in User Views)
[13:19:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg, maybe
[13:19:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> that strikes me as a heavy processing one though being as it'd have to grep the logs.
[13:20:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Future of Mozilla After the Shutdown of Mozilla Labs - http://sylnt.us - innovate-or-die
[13:20:17] <Bytram> my thinking is that when I see 10, 20, maybe 30 comments on a story, the site looks kinda empty; then I see there's hundreds/thousands of story views it gives an entirely different view
[13:20:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:20:59] <Bytram> I don't think that would be necessary, as it's done each time I look at the stories queue.
[13:21:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> may hafta look up how that's done. if it's not too heavy it could be implemented
[13:21:22] <Bytram> if my understanding is correct, the code gets the LUV count and adds a fudge-factor for ACs
[13:21:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but heavy isn't an issue on just admins/editors. would be for putting it on the page
[13:21:52] * Bytram hasn't looked at the code, but that was based on a chat with pj here a couple months ago.
[13:21:56] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:22:45] <Bytram> maybe add an autoincrement field in the db each time a user loads a story page? then just read out the value there.
[13:22:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> may needa start up a twiki page for this, let folks drop in suggestions as they like.
[13:23:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> could already be done that way. dunno.
[13:23:30] <Bytram> good suggestion, but i'm a total newb when it comes to twiki -- haven't the slightest idea on how to begin.
[13:23:37] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:23:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> go to the page, hit edit, add suggestion.
[13:23:54] <Bytram> there's my phone again. brb
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[13:26:29] <chromas> Pj added a thing for current uid but Bender needs an update to use it
[13:26:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't think he did. didn't see it on github
[13:27:42] <chromas> http://dev.soylentnews.org
[13:27:43] <monopoly> ^ 03Max User
[13:27:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> for shame upon him
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[13:28:23] <chromas> I suggested a separate script but he said he didn't want non-slash to use the db
[13:28:41] <Bytram> chromas: g'morning!
[13:28:50] <chromas> hey Bytram
[13:28:53] <chromas> morning here too
[13:29:03] <Bytram> ~time chromas
[13:29:04] <exec> Saturday, 20 September 2014 @ 6:29 am PDT - Walla Walla, WA
[13:29:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, stuff we're talking about would likely be using slash calls to the db
[13:29:39] <chromas> ah
[13:29:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> just not slash layout on the rendered page
[13:29:44] <chromas> that'd be okay I guess
[13:30:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> like IPN uses slash the same as slashd does
[13:30:31] <Bytram> For example: http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:32] <monopoly> ^ 03404 File Not Found
[13:30:54] <Bytram> or &item=sid or &item=cid
[13:31:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i like m=uid&op=max better
[13:31:36] <Bytram> order should not matter, right?
[13:32:13] <chromas> ?op=bacon
[13:32:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but it helps my brain thinking like that. uid should be the first thing looked at by the code then the op upon it
[13:32:31] <Bytram> OOP?
[13:32:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> essentially. most of slash is like that
[13:32:46] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:33:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> for that matter, most apis i've used are as well.
[13:33:09] <Bytram> in that case: ?item=uid&op=max
[13:33:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:34:12] <Bytram> do you know of any places in the DB where we have bar.foo and baz.foo but those are different [kinds of] foo?
[13:34:50] <Bytram> iow, does foo == foo == foo, ALWAYS?
[13:35:54] <Bytram> so in the general case we'd have: ?item=table.column&op=max
[13:37:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> erm, yeah i think sid occasionally means stoid
[13:37:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> but mostly they're the same
[13:38:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> but i don't wanna give direct access like item=table.column
[13:38:45] <Bytram> I was thinking there'd be a white-list of what could be accessed.
[13:39:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, whole purpose of an api is to deny direct access while making available the functionality.
[13:39:56] <Bytram> makes sense. Just want to avoid coming up with yet another naming scheme
[13:40:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> such is life
[13:40:18] <Bytram> we already have enough fun, as I understand it, dealing with the names of things in the code vs names of things in the DB
[13:40:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure. all part of coding though.
[13:40:56] <Bytram> as much as reasonably possible, I'm a firm believer in having a 1:1 between the name of a 'thing' and what gets accessed.
[13:41:16] <Bytram> can't grep semantics, yanno?
[13:41:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, not me. leads to confusion.
[13:42:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> like if i change $something->{cid} am i actually changing something in the db or in the object only?
[13:43:43] <Bytram> IMHO, that is a problem in the naming of "something" it should be something_db or something_obj -- impolementation is arbitrary, but the problem arises because you hve two different 'things' called exactly the same.
[13:44:01] <Bytram> you can't tell what 'somehting' is.
[13:45:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> generally not an issue. our db hook is pretty much always $slashdb or $reader or $writer
[13:45:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> depending on where it's called from. reader n writer are lower level than slashdb
[13:46:00] <Bytram> ok
[13:46:47] <Bytram> my semantic capacity is much smaller than my syntactic; I'm a strong believer in syntactifying the semantics -- really simplifies test generation and verification!
[13:46:58] <Bytram> !uid
[13:46:58] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4925, owned by anubi
[13:47:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> i totally can't find where pj put that new op into zoo.pl in the source
[13:47:40] <Bytram> hrm, where would I find zoo.pl on github?
[13:48:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://github.com
[13:49:05] <Bytram> thanks! on my way.
[13:49:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think he did a no-no and only put it on live
[13:49:58] <Bytram> hmm - is the policy that *everything* that goes on dev go through github?
[13:51:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> everything that goes on anywhere should
[13:51:40] <Bytram> agreed. just checking.
[13:51:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, max;zoo;default template is not on github
[13:52:04] <Bytram> tsk tsk.
[13:52:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo chastise paulej72
[13:52:07] <Bender> todo item 6 added
[13:52:18] <Bytram> paulej72--
[13:52:18] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 64
[13:52:28] <Bytram> your turn
[13:52:28] <paulej72> What did I do
[13:52:33] <Bytram> LOL!
[13:52:41] <Bytram> ask TheMightyBuzzard
[13:52:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> for shame, paulej72, max;zoo;default... not on github but on live
[13:53:05] <Bytram> live == dev.soylentnews.org
[13:53:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> live == soylentnews.org
[13:53:29] <Bytram> oh?
[13:53:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> live/prod same same
[13:54:01] <paulej72> I have not commited my code yet. max:zoo:default is only on dev as a live template that I edit in the admin interface
[13:54:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh, okay. i'll forgive you then.
[13:54:27] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: this works on dev: http://dev.soylentnews.org
[13:54:27] <monopoly> ^ 03Max User
[13:54:33] <paulej72> the new zoo code is only on dev
[13:54:39] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: but o prod: http://soylentnews.org
[13:54:39] <monopoly> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people ( http://soylentnews.org )
[13:54:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good
[13:54:47] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: but not on prod: http://soylentnews.org
[13:54:47] <monopoly> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people ( http://soylentnews.org )
[13:55:12] <Bytram> afk brb
[13:55:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, anyway. whatcha think of doing up an api.pl using normal slash calls and spitting out stuff like max uid/cid/sid in json format?
[13:56:20] <paulej72> That looks like something useful
[13:56:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> all still slash code but rendering == json
[13:57:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't think we can get a full api going any time soon but we can get a start on some basic easy functions
[13:59:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> would be kinda awesome to have an actual working api though so folks could write a client.
[14:00:41] <Bytram> back
[14:00:50] <Bytram> !uid
[14:00:50] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4925, owned by anubi
[14:01:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think i may monkey with that a little today
[14:02:14] <Bytram> umm, !uid is not correct http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:15] <monopoly> ^ 03SoylentNews Friend/Foe System
[14:02:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> since i'm not fishing over health worries, might as well have some kinda fun.
[14:02:41] <Bytram> says it's owned by 'anubi' but http://soylentnews.org says his uid is 2828
[14:02:41] <monopoly> ^ 03anubi - SoylentNews User
[14:03:11] <Bytram> current max uid seems to be 4736
[14:03:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> poor bender, always broke
[14:03:28] * Bytram offers a couple pennies to Bender
[14:04:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i should prolly do this as a plugin
[14:04:41] <Bytram> http://soylentnews.org
[14:04:42] <monopoly> ^ 03SoylentNews Friend/Foe System
[14:05:00] <Bytram> I see user: simmeeaswell
[14:05:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, he gets broken sometimes. i forget why.
[14:05:14] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:05:40] <Bytram> all the more reason to have a *real* way to get the right value... hope you have fun with it!
[14:06:37] <paulej72> bender has no error check.
[14:07:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> be good practice for me writing a plugin anyways
[14:07:23] <ciri> when you coming back. miss ya already! ;) TheMightyBuzzard
[14:08:06] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:31:02] -!- Bender has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
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[14:32:00] <Bytram> !uid
[14:32:00] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4925, owned by anubi
[14:32:09] <paulej72> !current_uid2
[14:32:24] <paulej72> Bytram: not why I restarted
[14:32:29] <Bytram> k
[14:32:39] <paulej72> i’ll fix it on the next restart
[14:32:51] <Bytram> np. just curious!
[14:33:32] <paulej72> !current-uid2
[14:34:10] <paulej72> !help
[14:34:10] <Bender> documentation for jsonbot can be found at http://jsonbot.org
[14:34:14] <Bender> see !list for loaded plugins and "!help plugin" for help on the plugin.
[14:34:18] <paulej72> !list
[14:34:18] <Bender> available plugins: admin, cfg, chan, chatlog, core, fleet, grabquote, ignore, irc, karma, koffie, lod, markov, more, plug, relay, soylentrss, sylnt, todo, twitter, uidchecker, uidchecker_new, urlinfo, user
[14:34:42] <paulej72> !help uidchecker_new
[14:34:42] <Bender> can't find help on uidchecker_new
[14:34:42] <ciri> Help is only available for the following: all,google,images,groups,news,local,book,video,fight,youtube,translate,gamespot,gamefaqs,blog,ebay,ebayfight,wikipedia,wikimedia,locate,review,torrent,top,popular,dailymotion,ign,myspace,trends,scholar
[14:35:51] <paulej72> !current-uid2
[14:37:58] -!- Bender has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[14:39:26] -!- Bender [Bender!~Bender@xs508-09.members.linode.com] has joined #Soylent
[14:39:32] <paulej72> !uid
[14:39:32] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4736, owned by simmeeaswell
[14:39:38] <paulej72> !current-uid2
[14:39:54] <paulej72> !current-uid2
[14:40:48] <Lagg> TheMightyBuzzard: JSON on a slashcode site? That's crazy talk!
[14:41:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know, right?
[14:41:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be fun
[14:41:39] <Lagg> Also enjoy a model M that was originally DIN that has a USB version plugged into a mini-DIN adapter http://i.imgur.com
[14:42:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's a unicomp
[14:42:44] <Lagg> Indeed, I mentioned it yesterday remember
[14:43:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i was mostly out of it yesterday. head stuck in code.
[14:44:59] <chromas> !list uidchecker_new
[14:44:59] <Bender> uidchecker_new plugin has the following commands: current-uid2
[14:47:31] <paulej72> !current-uid2
[14:47:52] <paulej72> 14:47:32 -=- ERROR -=- jsb.lib.runner:87 handle | .home.sylnt..jsb.myplugs.common.uidchecker_new:88 current_uid | jsb.lib.persist:393 save | jsb.utils.locking:47 lockedfunc | jsb.lib.persist:423 dosave | .usr.lib.python2.7.json.__init__:189 dump | .usr.lib.python2.7.json.encoder:434 _iterencode | .usr.lib.python2.7.json.encoder:408 _iterencode_dict | .usr.lib.python2.7.json.encoder:442 _iterencode | .usr.lib.python2.7.json.encoder:
[14:47:53] <paulej72> default | <type 'exceptions.TypeError'>: <_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x7f7da84c0378> is not JSON serializable -=- exception.handle_exception.60 -=- BotEventRunner._loop
[14:48:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> fun
[14:50:33] <paulej72> !list admin
[14:50:33] <Bender> admin plugin has the following commands: admin-commands, admin-floodcontrol, admin-setstatus, admin-exceptions, admin-stop, admin-mc, admin-debugon, admin-makebot, admin-debugoff, admin-upgrade, admin-callbacks, admin-save, admin-userhostscache, admin-boot, admin-loadall, admin-bootbackend, admin-bootthreaded, admin-reloadconfig
[14:51:04] <paulej72> !list
[14:51:04] <Bender> available plugins: admin, cfg, chan, chatlog, core, fleet, grabquote, ignore, irc, karma, koffie, lod, markov, more, plug, relay, soylentrss, sylnt, todo, twitter, uidchecker, uidchecker_new, urlinfo, user
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[14:52:08] <paulej72> !current-uid2
[14:52:08] <Bender> <_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x7f023ca1aa08>
[14:53:54] -!- Bender has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
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[14:54:17] <paulej72> !current-uid2
[14:54:17] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4027, owned by htmbv
[14:55:00] <paulej72> yeah bitches
[14:57:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> Qapla'!
[14:57:29] <Bytram> paulej72++
[14:57:29] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 65
[14:57:32] <Bytram> paulej72++
[14:57:32] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 66
[14:57:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72++
[14:57:39] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 67
[14:57:59] <chromas> !good
[14:58:00] <Bender> top karma items of #Soylent:
[14:58:16] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:58:16] <Bender> karma - coffee: 813
[14:58:33] * Bytram tests the race condition =)
[15:00:03] <Bytram> bacon--
[15:00:03] <Bender> karma - bacon: 255
[15:00:22] <Bytram> NCommander++ just because
[15:00:22] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 53
[15:00:56] <paulej72> !bad
[15:01:36] <Bytram> 'not' bad? Is that good? =)
[15:01:52] <chromas> !whyup coffee
[15:01:52] <Bender> no reasons for karmaup of coffee known yet
[15:02:05] <Bytram> !whoup coffee
[15:02:05] <Bender> uppers of coffee are: crutchy: 453, TheMightyBuzzard: 246, Blackmoore: 102, Bytram: 59, chromas: 23, mrcoolbp: 16, MrBluze: 15, crutchy_: 15, arti: 14, TK: 12, TheMightyLaptop: 10, mechanicjay: 10, AndyTheAbsurd: 8, Bytram|away: 5, mattie_p: 5, juggs: 3, Ethanol-fueled: 3, rand: 2, TheMightyBuzzard|Book: 2, Blackmoore|afk: 2, matt_: 2, paulej72: 2, exec: 2, Bytram|afk: - 1 more
[15:02:23] <chromas> !more
[15:02:23] <Bender> 2, monopoly: 2, prospectacle: 2, SoyCow7650: 1, Blkackmoore: 1, chimp: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Gone: 1, xlefay: 1, systemd: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|AFK: 1, idetuxs: 1, crutchy_fone: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Laptop: 1, crutchy__: 1, crutchy|zzz: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Fishing: 1, Blackmoore_: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Out: 1, crutchety: 1, mrcool|livingthedream: 1
[15:02:23] <paulej72> coffee++ good to the last drop
[15:02:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 814
[15:02:39] <paulej72> !whyup coffee
[15:02:39] <Bender> no reasons for karmaup of coffee known yet
[15:02:40] <Bytram> !whyup coffee
[15:02:44] <Bender> no reasons for karmaup of coffee known yet
[15:02:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> benderfail
[15:02:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> bender--
[15:02:54] <Bender> karma - bender: -10
[15:02:57] <Bytram> bender--
[15:02:57] <Bender> karma - bender: -11
[15:03:08] <chromas> !whyup archlinux
[15:03:09] <Bender> no reasons for karmaup of archlinux known yet
[15:03:10] <Bytram> !whodown bender
[15:03:13] <Bender> downers of bender are: d33tah: -16, mattie_p: -2, xlefay: -2, crutchy: -2, Subsentient: -1, Bytram: -1, TheMightyBuzzard: -1, KibiByte: -1, andrew: -1, stderr: -1, kobach: -1, sea`: -1
[15:03:28] <chromas> !whyup bacon
[15:03:28] <Bender> no reasons for karmaup of bacon known yet
[15:03:29] <Bytram> !whoup bender
[15:03:32] <Bender> uppers of bender are: Subsentient: 4, crutchy: 4, martyb: 2, nobbis: 1, chromas: 1, paulej72: 1, KibiByte: 1, AndyTheAbsurd: 1, Ethanol-fueled: 1, hax0rz: 1, xlefay: 1, mtrycz: 1
[15:03:48] <Bytram> !whodown coffee
[15:03:48] <Bender> downers of coffee are: ar: -149, JamesNZ: -38, swiss: -12, SpallsHurgenson: -7, crutchy: -4, NCommander: -2, prospectacle: -2, chromas: -1, TheMightyBuzzard: -1, chimp: -1, DrMag: -1, ar_: -1, AndyTheAbsurd: -1, Azrael: -1
[15:04:58] <Bytram> hmmm, I wonder: http://sylnt.us
[15:05:00] <monopoly> ^ 03401 Authorization Required ( https://staff.soylentnews.org )
[15:05:10] <chromas> paulej72++ #for bending Bender
[15:05:10] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 68
[15:05:29] <chromas> !whyup paulej72
[15:05:29] <Bender> no reasons for karmaup of paulej72 known yet
[15:05:33] <Bytram> paulej72++ # smile!
[15:05:33] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 69
[15:05:40] <chromas> Worked in #
[15:05:53] <chromas> !whyup paulej72
[15:05:53] <Bender> no reasons for karmaup of paulej72 known yet
[15:06:24] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[15:06:24] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 74
[15:06:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72++ #Soylent pull request merges
[15:06:49] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 70
[15:06:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> !whyup paulej72
[15:06:56] <Bender> no reasons for karmaup of paulej72 known yet
[15:07:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72++ Soylent random reason
[15:07:30] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 71
[15:07:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> !whyup paulej72
[15:07:32] <Bender> no reasons for karmaup of paulej72 known yet
[15:07:47] <paulej72> bender sucks donkey balls
[15:07:49] * TheMightyBuzzard shoots Bender dead 💥🔫
[15:08:47] <paulej72> the “database” is probably corrupted for this chan. It may have some bad data in it
[15:08:52] <chromas> Works in other channels
[15:09:00] <chromas> Ah
[15:09:11] <paulej72> !whyup coffee
[15:09:11] <Bender> no reasons for karmaup of coffee known yet
[15:09:31] <chromas> Time for perlbot
[15:09:32] <paulej72> not logging an error
[15:10:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... think i'll go fix my 10' cast net.
[15:10:58] <chromas> Does it have anything to do with the channel case during the switch?
[15:11:03] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nod nod; time for me to get going about my day, too.
[15:18:24] <paulej72> chromas: I don’t think so, but it may be a bug in the karma code that is case related.
[15:20:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - USA Gov't Misleads the Public on Traffic Safety - http://sylnt.us - could-do-better
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[15:26:36] <paulej72> !whyup coffee
[15:26:53] <paulej72> !whyup coffee
[15:27:18] <Bender> reasons for karma up are: get some into mrcoolbp ASAP
[15:28:30] <Bender> reasons for karma up are: get some into mrcoolbp ASAP
[15:29:14] <paulej72> !quote NCommander
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[15:30:23] <paulej72> !whyup coffee
[15:31:39] <Bender> reasons for karma up are: get some into mrcoolbp ASAP
[15:33:09] <paulej72> !whyup coffee
[15:33:59] <paulej72> !list
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[15:36:30] <paulej72> !list
[15:36:30] <Bender> available plugins: admin, cfg, chan, chatlog, core, fleet, grabquote, ignore, irc, karma, koffie, lod, markov, more, plug, relay, soylentrss, sylnt, todo, twitter, uidchecker, uidchecker_new, urlinfo, user
[15:36:38] <paulej72> !whyup coffee
[15:36:38] <Bender> reasons for karma up are: get some into mrcoolbp ASAP
[15:36:42] <paulej72> fixed
[15:37:33] <paulej72> was a missing .lower() on the chan name call on the whyup function only in the karma module
[15:38:58] <NCommander> me is around but meh
[15:39:24] <paulej72> NCommander: I know the feeling
[15:40:02] <paulej72> I think I have been mildly depressed for a few months now.
[15:40:27] <Bytram> NCommander: hi there!
[15:40:52] <Bytram> paulej72: likewise. Days getting shorter and cooler doesn't help.
[15:45:02] <paulej72> !quote paulej72
[15:45:02] <Bender> Quote 209 - <paulej72> sec's up
[15:45:16] <paulej72> !quote TheMightyBuzzard
[15:45:16] <Bender> Quote 188 - <TheMightyBuzzard> no biggie, just had to decide where to put it.
[15:45:20] <Bender> Also in quotes: 189, 191, 203, 204, 235
[15:45:50] <paulej72> !quote TheMightyBuzzard
[15:45:50] <Bender> Quote 188 - <TheMightyBuzzard> no biggie, just had to decide where to put it.
[15:45:54] <Bender> Also in quotes: 189, 191, 203, 204, 235
[15:47:21] <Bytram> ~time NCommander
[15:47:23] <exec> Saturday, 20 September 2014 @ 7:47 am AKDT - Anchorage, AK
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[15:48:19] <paulej72> coffee++ good to the last drop
[15:48:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 815
[15:48:28] <paulej72> !whyup coffee
[15:48:29] <Bender> reasons for karma up are: get some into mrcoolbp ASAP
[15:50:18] <NCommander> paulej72, well, right now, I'm dealing with the fact my sleep cycle is "TILT"
[15:50:55] <paulej72> just move to a location that matches you cruuent sleep cycle :)
[15:53:10] <paulej72> coffee++ # good to the last drop
[15:53:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 816
[15:53:16] <paulej72> !whyup coffee
[15:53:16] <Bender> reasons for karma up are: get some into mrcoolbp ASAP, good to the last drop
[15:53:45] <paulej72> !whyup paulej72
[15:53:45] <Bender> reasons for karma up are: thank you!!, about the footer menu., yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, for bending Bender, smile!, Soylent pull request merges
[15:59:22] <Bytram> coffee++ does it need an octothorpe?
[15:59:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 817
[15:59:36] <Bytram> !whyup coffee
[15:59:36] <Bender> reasons for karma up are: get some into mrcoolbp ASAP, good to the last drop
[15:59:43] <Bytram> coffee++ #does it need an octothorpe?
[15:59:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 818
[15:59:45] <Bytram> !whyup coffee
[15:59:45] <Bender> reasons for karma up are: get some into mrcoolbp ASAP, good to the last drop, does it need an octothorpe?
[16:04:04] <Bytram> brb
[16:04:04] <ciri> where you going? Bytram
[16:13:02] <paulej72> none of your business ciri
[16:17:34] <Bytram> paulej72: I do not remember what it is I did, but I no longer see anything from ciri here -- MUCH better!
[16:18:24] <paulej72> /ignore ciri, but I don’t mind her, I just like to toy with her from time to time
[16:19:31] <Bytram> oh! yeah, that was it! thanks for the reminder
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[17:30:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Oklahoma Pastafarian Wears Colander for Driver's License Photo - http://sylnt.us - making-your-point-by-looking-silly
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[18:01:07] <Ethanol-fueled> DUUUUUDDE HAHAHAHA
[18:01:11] <Ethanol-fueled> DRUNNNNKKKK
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[18:59:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.phoronix.com
[18:59:33] <monopoly> ^ 03[Phoronix] Wasteland 2 Officially Launched Today, Including For Linux Gamers
[19:41:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's okay, Ethanol-fueled is gone, you can talk again
[19:42:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Baryon Acoustic Oscillation Reveals the Expansion of the Universe. - http://sylnt.us - echoes-of-distant-past
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[19:49:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, JamesNZ
[19:51:06] <JamesNZ> Morning TheMightyBuzzard \o
[19:51:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> Editors: the title on my sub is time sensitive. if it doesn't go out today the word "today" in the title needs changing.
[19:52:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> now is the time on #Soylent when we eat cake.
[19:52:32] * TheMightyBuzzard is afk eating cake
[19:52:34] <n1> TheMightyBuzzard, today (20th)?
[19:52:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> n1 yar
[19:52:44] <n1> kk
[19:52:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheers
[20:12:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> that cake was no lie
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[21:01:10] <crutchy> ooh cake!
[21:13:14] <crutchy> wow i missed bender play. bummer
[21:13:52] <crutchy> !uid
[21:13:52] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4736, owned by simmeeaswell
[21:15:34] <crutchy> ~uid
[21:15:35] <exec> *** The current maximum UID is 4027, owned by htmbv
[21:15:45] <crutchy> ~cid
[21:15:46] <exec> max SN cid from articles in xml feed: 95985
[21:21:05] <crutchy> ~killall
[21:21:06] <exec> terminated pid 32415: php scripts/bot.php 'new farticle' '#' 'crutchy'
[21:21:07] <exec> terminated pid 10707: php scripts/comment_feed.php
[21:21:07] <exec> terminated pid 10838: php scripts/users.php '319 exec crutchy #Soylent #comments # ' 'irc.sylnt.us' '' '~users-internal'
[21:31:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Good TV Ads are Designed to Work - http://sylnt.us - if-you-hear-it-enough-it-must-be-true
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[21:33:03] <chromas> ciri++ # for sublty annoying some people here
[21:33:03] <Bender> karma - ciri: 7
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[21:34:43] <crutchy> ciri++ for giving us inter. err. sentient?-foreplat
[21:34:43] <Bender> karma - ciri: 8
[21:34:55] <crutchy> *play, fk
[21:35:14] <chromas> it also turns out reasons need a delimiter to be stored
[21:35:41] <crutchy> that blows
[21:36:31] <chromas> so far it looks like only the hash/pound/octothorpe/number sign works
[21:36:45] <crutchy> was reading about the max cid/sid thing for zoo.pl
[21:37:10] <crutchy> hope they don't just do it for me cos i prolly won't use it :p
[21:37:46] <chromas> oh you'l use it and you'll LIKE IT, MISTER!
[21:37:56] <crutchy> ~define octothorpe
[21:37:58] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Octothorpe: A sexual position shaped like an actual octothorpe (#) where 4 people lie on the ground and perform oral sex on each other.Two people lie on their backs facing in opposite directions with their arms s...
[21:38:26] <crutchy> there you go :D
[21:38:37] <chromas> and that's how you get Bender to cooperate
[21:38:58] <crutchy> perform oral sex on it?
[21:39:18] <chromas> any sexual involvement
[21:39:25] <chromas> s/o/u/
[21:39:25] <SedBot9000> <chromas> any sexual invulvement
[21:40:30] <crutchy> bender's the sort of bot that knows that when you stick another bot's cock inside your mouth you make a pact
[21:40:43] <chromas> exec: s/.*(o).*/\1/g
[21:40:43] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <exec> o
[21:40:47] <chromas> aw
[21:41:47] <chromas> plug and socket, long as they match
[21:42:02] <crutchy> exec, s/o//g
[21:42:02] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> <exec> [urbandictinary] 3Octthrpe: A sexual psitin shaped like an actual ctthrpe (#) where 4 peple lie n the grund and perfrm ral sex n each ther.Tw peple lie n their backs facing in ppsite directins with their arms s...
[21:42:22] <crutchy> grund++
[21:42:22] <Bender> karma - grund: 1
[21:42:27] <chromas> opposite of what I wanted, though
[21:42:37] <chromas> everything but the o
[21:42:45] <crutchy> exec, s/o/oo/g
[21:42:45] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> <exec> [urbandictioonary] 3Octoothoorpe: A sexual poositioon shaped like an actual ooctoothoorpe (#) where 4 peoople lie oon the groound and perfoorm ooral sex oon each oother.Twoo peoople lie oon their backs facing in ooppoosite directioons with their arms s...
[21:42:47] <chromas> probably needs something fancier
[21:43:08] <crutchy> canadian!
[21:44:09] <crutchy> exec, s/4/4chan/
[21:44:09] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Octothorpe: A sexual position shaped like an actual octothorpe (#) where 4chan people lie on the ground and perform oral sex on each other.Two people lie on their backs facing in opposite directions with their arms s...
[21:45:34] <chromas> weird how it randomly spews a line to the terminal, not sedding
[21:45:44] <crutchy> ~define octofrap
[21:45:45] <chromas> maybe it's 'cause of the name: at the beginning
[21:45:54] <crutchy> ~define octofap
[21:46:00] <exec> octofrap: unable to find definition
[21:46:05] <exec> octofap: unable to find definition
[21:46:26] <chromas> ~define fappuccino
[21:46:27] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3fappuccino: The result of ejaculating into a cup of coffee; usually done out of spite by a disgruntled food service industry employee, or as a practical joke.
[21:46:43] <crutchy> zomg!
[21:46:43] <chromas> probably should've tried that in # or something
[21:47:09] <crutchy> that has just traumatised me
[21:47:28] <chromas> Sir, I will refrain from showing you the Internet
[21:47:33] <crutchy> lol
[21:47:44] <chromas> sdfsdlfk: test
[21:47:48] <chromas> well that didn't work
[21:47:49] <crutchy> actual lol
[21:48:04] <crutchy> (instead of the usual silent lol)
[21:48:51] <chromas> Can one silently lol?
[21:49:02] <crutchy> sdfsdlfk: stuff
[21:49:06] <chromas> Why are we here? What is the nature of perl and why does it exist?
[21:49:21] <crutchy> is there a sdfsdlfk bot?
[21:49:22] <chromas> yours worked
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[21:49:30] <crutchy> shit
[21:49:39] <crutchy> g'day Subsentient
[21:49:56] <crutchy> xchat's notify++
[21:50:21] <Subsentient> crutchy: Hi.
[21:50:29] <Subsentient> Just got out of the mental hospital today,
[21:50:37] <crutchy> or maybe aqu4 has taken over his pyewta
[21:50:44] <crutchy> turing test!
[21:51:00] <crutchy> how the hell are you man?
[21:51:00] <ciri> how how brown cow
[21:51:04] <Subsentient> They put me on a high dose of prozac and say that high doses of SSRIs like it are a good treatment for OCD. It takes weeks to take effect however.
[21:51:35] <Subsentient> They also gave me a slip for an anxiety medication called Visteril.
[21:51:42] <crutchy> we need to put our politicians on high doses of prozac
[21:52:37] <crutchy> is that the same stuff that dr house was on?
[21:53:37] <crutchy> anyway, good to have you back dude
[21:54:06] <chromas> $beer Subsentient and says "hey!"
[21:54:06] * aqu4 gives Subsentient and says "hey!" a cold can of beer
[21:54:20] <chromas> +to I guess
[21:54:25] * crutchy needs to take a shower cos his farts are starting to stink less
[21:56:14] <Subsentient> lol
[21:56:14] <ciri> heh
[21:56:32] <Subsentient> well I g2g for now.
[21:56:38] <Subsentient> Take care. Just wanted to say hi
[21:56:58] <crutchy> later buddy. take care
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[22:52:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, subs, good to see ya back
[22:53:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> bah, he leaved
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[22:55:05] <chromas> we could have Soylent be red for xmas
[22:55:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ...
[22:55:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed
[22:55:23] <chromas> harrr
[22:55:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> heya, Bytram|away
[22:56:08] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[22:56:37] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: g'day! how's things?
[22:56:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> goin slowly. typos n such
[22:57:57] <nick> on xmas... in the store today, it's started...
[22:58:03] <Bytram> those are tricky.
[22:58:17] <Bytram> xmas, already
[22:58:18] <Bytram> ?
[22:58:27] <chromas> soon it will be ayear in advance
[22:58:41] <chromas> Shop for next year!
[22:58:50] <nick> yeah, xmas food stuff was in the store when i went this afternoon
[22:59:10] <nick> chromas, i'm pretty sure some retailers already do that in the january sales.
[22:59:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, won't be long before you get christmas sales in january
[22:59:47] <nick> they do it in a 'get a head start for next season with our fantastic deals!'
[22:59:49] <nick> kind of way
[23:00:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wasteland 2 Officially Launched Today, Including For Linux Gamers - http://sylnt.us - when-freeciv-is-no-longer-enough
[23:01:15] <_NSAKEY> Is it just me or are the ACs more trollish than normal today?
[23:01:17] <Bytram> not to worry, I'm sure it won't hard the "christmas fruit rolls" any. =) [I can't remember what they're called, but you get the idea.]
[23:01:26] <_NSAKEY> Must be because it's the weekend and they don't have school.
[23:01:34] <Bytram> _NSAKEY: they've been a little more vocal, it seems.
[23:01:38] <chromas> Bytram: fruitcake?
[23:01:49] <Bytram> Yeah! that's the ticket
[23:01:54] * chromas suggests sending APK around to your relatives this year
[23:02:06] <nick> fruitcake is the best thing about xmas.
[23:02:19] <Bytram> Armored Personal Karrier?
[23:02:32] <_NSAKEY> I'm looking at this story about chimpanzees and 14/22 comments are from ACs.
[23:02:41] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: have you had any luck with your utility.pl idea?
[23:02:44] <chromas> I don' think I've had fruitcake but I play one in real life
[23:02:49] <Bytram> or was that the one with the typos?
[23:03:02] * paulej72 went to the apple store to look at the new iphones
[23:03:18] <paulej72> the 6+ is rather nice
[23:03:28] <nick> _NSAKEY, could draw a correlation between cimpanzees and the intellect of some AC's.
[23:03:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, workin on it now. just chasin down an annoying quirk of the json module
[23:04:12] <chromas> chimpctl start flinging
[23:04:13] <Bytram> json... wasn't that the guy with the hockey mask?
[23:04:23] <paulej72> yes
[23:04:30] <Bytram> ~burrito AC
[23:05:02] <Bytram> !whoup coffee
[23:05:02] <Bender> uppers of coffee are: crutchy: 453, TheMightyBuzzard: 246, Blackmoore: 102, Bytram: 61, chromas: 23, mrcoolbp: 16, MrBluze: 15, crutchy_: 15, arti: 14, TK: 12, TheMightyLaptop: 10, mechanicjay: 10, AndyTheAbsurd: 8, Bytram|away: 5, mattie_p: 5, paulej72: 5, juggs: 3, Ethanol-fueled: 3, rand: 2, TheMightyBuzzard|Book: 2, matt_: 2, Blackmoore|afk: 2, exec: 2, Bytram|afk: - 1 more
[23:05:09] <Bytram> !whyup coffee
[23:05:09] <Bender> reasons for karma up are: get some into mrcoolbp ASAP, good to the last drop, does it need an octothorpe?
[23:05:20] <Bytram> !uid
[23:05:20] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4736, owned by simmeeaswell
[23:05:25] * chromas just lost his nut
[23:05:31] <Bytram> Hey... nice!!
[23:05:42] <juggs> ping_the_world--
[23:05:42] <Bender> karma - ping_the_world: -1
[23:05:52] <Bytram> chromas: so you can no longer be nutty as a fruitcake? ==> Sanity has returned.
[23:06:06] <Bytram> ( ping the world ) ++
[23:06:14] <Bytram> ( ping the world )++
[23:06:14] <Bender> karma - ( ping the world ): 1
[23:06:17] <Bytram> (ping the world)++
[23:06:17] <Bender> karma - (ping the world): 1
[23:06:30] <paulej72> bender is still running the buggy uid until the next deploy
[23:06:59] <Bytram> paulej72: nod nod, but at least the current uid seems to be accurate
[23:11:56] <chromas> ciri: Why do many people pronounce the "t" in "often" but not "oftentimes"?
[23:12:04] <chromas> poor ciri
[23:13:42] <Bytram> offin imes?
[23:13:45] <Bytram> =)
[23:15:51] <chromas> hehe
[23:16:26] <Bytram> Ark the errald angels ing?
[23:17:34] <arti> good question
[23:18:42] <Bytram> ppl cn ftn gnr vwls bt nt gd t skp cnsnnts
[23:21:14] * TheMightyBuzzard is dumb
[23:21:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> forgot to put a return statement in a sub
[23:22:44] * Bytram suggests you switch to hoagies
[23:23:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> fine idea, that
[23:24:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> stupid use strict
[23:24:27] <paulej72> grinders
[23:24:33] <Bytram> For the "Real Deal", though, nothing compares to an Amato's Original Italian Sandwich
[23:25:04] <Bytram> started back in the early 20's I think, as a convenient meal for all the workers on the Portland (ME) waterfront.
[23:25:56] <paulej72> navy beans
[23:26:01] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[23:26:02] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03Amato's: Amato's Sandwich Shops, Inc., is a chain of Italian restaurants that serves sandwiches, pizza and pasta throughout northern New England, United States. Founded in 1902 by Giovanni Amato (John Amato in English), Amato's owns and operates ...
[23:26:16] <paulej72> sloppy joes
[23:28:29] <Bytram> hmmm, let's see what happens: http://news.google.com
[23:28:30] <monopoly> ^ 03Bangor Daily News - Google News Archive Search
[23:29:31] <paulej72> hurd n catz
[23:29:57] <Bytram> take a look at this sndwich: http://www.amatos.com
[23:30:18] <paulej72> too mzny veggies
[23:30:45] <paulej72> who uses tomato wedges on a sandwich
[23:30:59] <Bytram> nod nod; I usually ask them to skip the onions and green peppers... their pickles, though, are outstanding! nothin else like 'em
[23:31:52] <paulej72> any way it is pshopped as no one has tomatoes that. red anymore
[23:32:39] <paulej72> pickles ar not veggies anymore can load them on heavy
[23:32:50] <Bytram> actually, right about this time of the year, they actually are pretty close! Fresh vegies bought from the nearby area.
[23:33:32] <Bytram> technically, since the seeds are within the 'pulp' cucumbers are a fruit
[23:33:34] <paulej72> well that is the exception not the rule
[23:33:43] <Bytram> no argument there.
[23:34:05] <paulej72> i can pickle almost anything.
[23:34:21] * Bytram is now getting hungry... who started this food thing, anyway?
[23:34:21] <paulej72> need to make som pickled eggs
[23:34:31] <Bytram> urk.
[23:34:38] <paulej72> you did
[23:35:16] <Bytram> I could point at TheMightyBuzzard who mentioned a 'sub', but I must confess I was the one who ran with it.
[23:35:37] <Bytram> Funny thing is, I just had dinner about an hour ago. I should NOT be hungry.
[23:35:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't look at me, i'm eating leftover pizza for dinner
[23:36:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[23:36:08] <monopoly> ^ {"max_uid":"4027"}
[23:36:17] <Bytram> reminds me of college. the breakfast of champions was cold pizza and warm beer
[23:36:46] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nice... but what does 'm' mean?
[23:36:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> method =P
[23:37:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> your typo is now set in stone
[23:37:40] <Bytram> from our earlier discussion, it was what was left over after I inadvertantly typed over (instead of inserted before) some pre-existing text which had ?item=user&op=max_uid
[23:37:55] * Bytram starts to rub away at the sandstone
[23:38:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'aight, i like method better than item anyway.
[23:38:22] * Bytram then notices it is limestone and prepares to douse it with vinegar
[23:38:32] <Bytram> man the pumps!
[23:39:01] <Bytram> m is also short for madness which you have added to your method, me sees. =)
[23:39:15] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: max uid sould return the user nick too
[23:39:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, can do
[23:39:42] <Bytram> paulej72: disagree. should only return what is requested.
[23:39:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> was needing to do uid to nick and vice versa lookup subs anyway
[23:40:24] <Bytram> ?m=nick&op=nick&value=4072
[23:40:32] <Bytram> ?m=nick&value=4072
[23:40:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> something like
[23:40:38] <Bytram> os sumin
[23:40:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, still m=user
[23:40:44] <paulej72> that sucks
[23:40:49] <Bytram> ?m=nick&uid=4072
[23:40:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> all the uid/nick subs will go in there
[23:41:14] * Bytram goes to fetch a snack
[23:41:33] <paulej72> two calls to get the info istead of one.
[23:43:05] <paulej72> json can return a ton of data if needed, the max uid call sould givve it all up and the caller can drop what they do not need
[23:46:59] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[23:47:00] <monopoly> ^ {"max_uid":"4027"}
[23:47:20] <cykros> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com
[23:50:22] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[23:50:23] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03Unix philosophy: The Unix philosophy, originated by Ken Thompson, is a set of cultural norms and philosophical approaches to developing small yet capable software based on the experience of leading developers of the Unix operating system. Early Unix deve...
[23:51:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[23:51:42] <monopoly> ^ {"nick":"The Mighty Buzzard"}
[23:52:01] <Bytram> The Unix philosophy emphasizes building short, simple, clear, modular, and extensible code that can be easily maintained and repurposed by developers other than its creators. The Unix philosophy favors composability as opposed to monolithic design.
[23:52:38] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: NICE!
[23:53:21] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[23:53:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, fear not. i can throw a switch in there to pull all fit-for-the-public info on a user in there on a max_uid call
[23:53:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, not quite yet
[23:53:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't gotten the reverse of it coded yet
[23:54:06] <Bytram> I know, but pointing out a natural aspect of the language your are writing.
[23:54:25] <Bytram> you DO realize you are creating a *language*, right?>
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[23:55:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[23:55:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ish
[23:56:20] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: that was *yesterday* =)
[23:56:50] <Bytram> This is the Unix philosophy: Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface.
[23:56:55] <Bytram> The notion of "intricate and beautiful complexities" is almost an oxymoron. Unix programmers vie with each other for "simple and beautiful" honors a point that's implicit in these rules, but is well worth making overt.
[23:57:32] <Bytram> http://www.faqs.org
[23:57:33] <monopoly> ^ 03The Art of Unix Programming
[23:57:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> today's hot rum punch day though. still plenty piratical