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[00:00:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fri 19 Sep 2014: International Talk Like a Pirate Day - http://sylnt.us - oh-arr-me-maties,-make-it-ship-shape-and-Bristol-fashion
[00:02:18] * SpallsHurgenson talks like a pirate, "I deserve free movies because I don't want to pay for them!"
[00:14:40] <SpallsHurgenson> erm, I mean "Arrrrr!"
[00:15:24] <juggs> who the feck comes up with these things
[00:16:25] <_NSAKEY> Good question. At least the summary has enough detail to answer that particular question for this exact case.
[00:18:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> shatner celebrates it so it's an official holiday
[00:25:18] <juggs> what! you expect me to RFS!! ridiculous suggestion :D
[00:28:41] * SpallsHurgenson translates for the pirates: "Arr, my matey! You expect me t' read t' blighted summary? To Davey Jone's locker with that suggestion, arrr!"
[00:30:09] <SpallsHurgenson> s/you/ye/
[00:32:30] <SpallsHurgenson> s/You/Ye/
[00:32:30] <SedBot9000> <SpallsHurgenson> translates for the pirates: "Arr, my matey! Ye expect me t' read t' blighted summary? To Davey Jone's locker with that suggestion, arrr!"
[00:32:36] * juggs throws SpallsHurgenson out the window
[00:32:38] <SpallsHurgenson> ah, case-sensitve :)
[00:32:50] -!- JamesNZ [JamesNZ!~james@43-567-441-22.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #Soylent
[00:33:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> what's that?
[00:33:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/T/T/i
[00:33:59] <SpallsHurgenson> Shiver me timbers and blow me down, I've been defenstrated
[00:34:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, looks like someone broke the /i
[00:38:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> i need something fattening. preferably pie.
[00:38:45] <SpallsHurgenson> drywall will bloat you nicely
[00:43:27] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: feel free to add i functionality
[00:52:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, the sed script already had the /i i thought
[00:53:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> or awk rather
[00:54:46] <juggs> somehow "awk" sounds right coming from TheMightyBuzzard :D
[00:54:51] <chromas> could be. I see an ([iI]) in there so I guess that's it
[00:55:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, shaddup or i'll poop on your windshield
[00:55:19] <chromas> mighty poop
[00:55:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, only if i drink some milk first
[00:56:04] * chromas needs to slice the grass some time; there're mushrooms out there
[00:56:45] * juggs shads
[00:59:32] * chromas sends TheMightyBuzzard fresh-picked TheMightyMilk from the MightyMilkBoosh
[01:00:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> milk is apparently to my digestive tract as spinach is to popeye
[01:00:36] <chromas> ew
[01:00:40] <chromas> canned spinach
[01:15:46] <SpallsHurgenson> do not dismiss the spinach!
[01:16:49] * SpallsHurgenson wonders if Popeye was a pirate
[01:18:32] <chromas> Spinach is good, just not canned
[01:18:45] <chromas> In fact, canned spinach looks like fresh spinach gone bad
[01:20:45] <SpallsHurgenson> I honestly can say I have never seen spinach in a can
[01:20:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> you a collard greens man then, chromas?
[01:20:59] <SpallsHurgenson> erm, outside of cartoons :)
[01:21:37] <chromas> ~define collard greens
[01:21:42] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3collard greens: The most cliche old black people food (besides chitlins)
[01:22:10] <SpallsHurgenson> what, even more than watermelon and fried chicken? I think not!
[01:22:11] <chromas> I dunno; fresh spinach and stuff anyhow
[01:22:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, i thought it was an any poor southern people thing
[01:22:51] <chromas> watermelon and fried chicken are the most cliché young black people food
[01:23:29] <SpallsHurgenson> honestly, the younger black people I know tend to eat healthier stuff than that :)
[01:23:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> their loss
[01:24:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> healthy eating is for fools who think living an extra 30 years that someone has to wipe your ass for you during is worth being miserable the first 60
[01:24:59] <SpallsHurgenson> you know, some people honestly LIKE salads and fresh foods :)
[01:25:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> lies!
[01:25:21] * juggs simply loves spending time explaining to someone why they can't open a .docx file with their copy of word 2003 on an MS vista machine. It's like I entered a fucking timewarp or something. At least my grey matter managed to rustle up the cobweb encrusted memory of having to install some crappy compatibility pack. Go me, not as decrepit as I thought.
[01:25:48] <SpallsHurgenson> "compatibility pack" = LibreOffice? :)
[01:25:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, there's nothing wrong with fresh foods as long as they're deep fried.
[01:26:17] <chromas> deep fried chocolate-dipped deep fried chocolate
[01:26:35] <SpallsHurgenson> deep fried and in batter?
[01:27:16] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, I'm not even going there with this one. My spidey sense is tingling that the more helpful I am the more I will be sucked into sorting out every last thing.
[01:27:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, are you getting paid?
[01:28:11] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, I've found that LibreOffice more often than not helps those confused by the docx thing. Plus they get the interface they know and understand. Cuts back on the repeat calls
[01:29:05] <SpallsHurgenson> I tend to rename the shortcuts though (e.g., "Write"-> "Word Processor", "Calc"-> "Spreadsheet")
[01:30:13] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, hell no - this is one of those random... hey you know how this shit works right... type deals.
[01:30:39] <SpallsHurgenson> not even free pizza?!?!?
[01:30:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, repeat after me "Fuck if I know, I use Linux."
[01:31:02] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: s/pizza/bj/
[01:31:02] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <SpallsHurgenson> not even free bj?!?!?
[01:31:16] <juggs> difficult as the person I'm assisting is on the other side of the world SpallsHurgenson
[01:31:32] <SpallsHurgenson> chromas: if Juggs has the sort of "customers" I have, that's not as appealing an option :)
[01:31:51] * chromas imagines hot secretary despite reality
[01:32:35] <chromas> same with nurses, dammit
[01:33:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> nurses will cut you
[01:33:56] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, I did mention linux and libreoffice, but that immediately forked into what appeared to be the beginning of a very long conversation starting with "so a linux operating system is better than windows ?" - yeh... no. Not doing that one.... here's a linkie to the MS comp pack you need. Much quicker.
[01:33:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're mean
[01:34:22] <SpallsHurgenson> When people ask me what to do when their computer breaks, I tell them the following:
[01:34:24] <SpallsHurgenson> Place a re-heated half-pizza outside your front door. Close the door and wait. In about half an hour, you will hear a noise outside. Cautiously open the door. It will be a geek. Do not say anything to him; instead, point to your broken computer, then quietly leave the room. When you return in an hour or so, the geek will be gone, leaving only an empty pizza carton, the smell of stale cheetos and a fixed PC :)
[01:35:33] <chromas> !grab SpallsHurgenson
[01:35:33] <Bender> Added quote 245
[01:36:07] <juggs> I'm actually semi surprised MS still has the comp pack available to download. ~shrug~
[01:36:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote NCommander
[01:36:13] <Bender> Quote 1 - <NCommander> DarkMorph, because whenever I have to touch hashref's I want to stab my eyes out
[01:36:17] <Bender> Also in quotes: 7, 53, 82, 83, 86, 87, 88, 97, 106, 111, 114, 138, 147, 153, 156, 157, 158, 169, 171, 211, 212, 222
[01:36:51] <SpallsHurgenson> Bender grabbed me; now I feel dirty.
[01:37:07] <chromas> as you should
[01:37:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 7
[01:37:19] <Bender> Quote 7 - <NCommander> Dopefish, I handed him a 3k page novel, then told him that was short for one of my posts
[01:37:26] <chromas> we're all a little bit dirtier as well
[01:37:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 53
[01:37:38] <Bender> Quote 53 - <NCommander> I thought it was a squished oreo
[01:38:00] <juggs> !quote 212
[01:38:00] <Bender> Quote 212 - <aqu4> I last saw NCommander at 2014-07-22 10:19:24 UTC in #soylent. Their most recent message is "I got a serious cause of the munchies"
[01:38:07] <SpallsHurgenson> re: geeks and pizza, I've actually and honestly had people THANK me for that advice :)
[01:38:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's prolly gonna make me debug something annoying for pinging him so much
[01:38:53] <chromas> Bender did it!
[01:38:54] <juggs> do you have packs of feral geeks roaming your neighbourhoods SpallsHurgenson
[01:39:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh well, might as well get everyone mad at me then.
[01:39:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> !whoup coffee
[01:39:06] <Bender> uppers of coffee are: crutchy: 449, TheMightyBuzzard: 240, Blackmoore: 102, Bytram: 57, chromas: 23, mrcoolbp: 16, MrBluze: 15, crutchy_: 15, arti: 14, TK: 12, TheMightyLaptop: 10, mechanicjay: 10, AndyTheAbsurd: 8, Bytram|away: 5, mattie_p: 5, juggs: 3, rand: 2, TheMightyBuzzard|Book: 2, matt_: 2, paulej72: 2, Blackmoore|afk: 2, Ethanol-fueled: 2, exec: 2, Bytram|afk: - 1 more
[01:39:12] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs: I didn't think so, but it made me wonder :)
[01:39:20] <chromas> also bacon
[01:39:24] <juggs> No-one expects... THE PING OF DEATH!!
[01:39:58] <SpallsHurgenson> eiuuu, your pings are all malformed
[01:40:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, there we go... s/mod bombers/the soylent inquisition/
[01:40:38] <SpallsHurgenson> coffee--
[01:40:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 805
[01:40:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:40:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 806
[01:40:44] <SpallsHurgenson> coffee--
[01:40:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 805
[01:40:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:40:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 806
[01:40:46] <SpallsHurgenson> coffee--
[01:40:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 805
[01:40:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:40:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 806
[01:40:50] <SpallsHurgenson> coffee--
[01:40:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 805
[01:40:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:40:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 806
[01:40:57] * TheMightyBuzzard has a hotkey
[01:41:02] <juggs> !whoup should have a MS style "Are you sure you want to set things pinging on multiple continents?" confirmation dialog
[01:41:03] <SpallsHurgenson> how much longer before we get kicked :)
[01:41:04] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[01:41:32] <chromas> bacon++ https://www.youtube.com
[01:41:32] <Bender> karma - bacon: 256
[01:41:33] <monopoly> ^ 03Jim Gaffigan-Bacon - YouTube
[01:41:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> .kick SpallsHurgenson not long now
[01:41:34] -!- SpallsHurgenson was kicked from #Soylent by juggler!SN@services. [(TheMightyBuzzard) not long now]
[01:41:35] -!- SpallsHurgenson [SpallsHurgenson!~SpallsHur@argh-35-391-838-999.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #Soylent
[01:41:39] <SpallsHurgenson> Yay!
[01:41:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> .kick TheMightyBuzzard
[01:41:41] -!- TheMightyBuzzard was kicked from #Soylent by juggler!SN@services. [(TheMightyBuzzard) No reason given]
[01:41:45] <SpallsHurgenson> Do it again! Do it again!
[01:41:46] -!- TheMightyBuzzard [TheMightyBuzzard!bob@Soylent/Staff/Developer/TMB] has joined #Soylent
[01:41:46] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v TheMightyBuzzard] by juggler
[01:42:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> now you two behave yourselves
[01:42:25] <swiss> coffee--
[01:42:25] <Bender> karma - coffee: 805
[01:42:28] <swiss> ew
[01:42:36] <SpallsHurgenson> swiss++
[01:42:36] <Bender> karma - swiss: 5
[01:42:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> hippies--
[01:42:43] <Bender> karma - hippies: -1
[01:42:49] <swiss> i'm not a hippie
[01:43:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyone who hates coffee is a hippie
[01:43:02] <swiss> I just am someone who has adverse effects to caffeine
[01:43:07] <JamesNZ> !whodown coffee
[01:43:07] <Bender> downers of coffee are: ar: -148, JamesNZ: -38, swiss: -12, SpallsHurgenson: -7, crutchy: -4, NCommander: -2, prospectacle: -2, chromas: -1, TheMightyBuzzard: -1, chimp: -1, DrMag: -1, ar_: -1, AndyTheAbsurd: -1, Azrael: -1
[01:43:20] <juggs> I think I might just kickban Bender, that should stop the titting around.
[01:43:34] <SpallsHurgenson> wow, ar REALLY doesn't like coffee--
[01:43:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> he likes trolling coffee
[01:45:07] * SpallsHurgenson giggles, "Titting, heheheh."
[01:45:35] * JamesNZ titters
[01:47:28] <paulej72> ok any guesses on scottland
[01:47:40] <juggs> too close to call
[01:47:53] <SpallsHurgenson> that depends: are they giving the sheep a choice this time?
[01:48:05] <paulej72> sheeple
[01:48:09] * TheMightyBuzzard is listening to bagpipes music
[01:48:28] <juggs> hmm - should be getting the 1st results coming in by now.
[01:49:42] <paulej72> there are only three bagpipe songs. scottland the brave, amazing grace, and that other one i forgot ht name of
[01:49:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> the minstrel boy
[01:52:15] <SpallsHurgenson> all also known by their alternate title, "Ach laddie, me ears they be bleeding!"
[01:53:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> how dare you mock the celtic electric guitar?!
[01:53:04] <ciri> how how brown cow
[01:53:05] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: not the one i was thinking of.
[01:54:11] <SpallsHurgenson> Ye Banks & Braes? Highland Laddie? We're No Awa' Tae Bida Awa?
[01:55:33] * SpallsHurgenson listens to the bagpipes and wonders, "is it too late for ENGLISH citizens to vote 'yes' on today's referendum?" :)
[01:55:45] <paulej72> carnegie mellon has a bagpipe corp that plays for all of the events. some of in the marching band would say all their songs sounded the same and they only had three songs
[01:56:51] <SpallsHurgenson> that many? :)
[01:57:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://dailycaller.com
[01:57:47] <monopoly> ^ 03Man Dies Over Attempted Craigslist Robbery Of Playstation 4 | The Daily Caller
[01:58:01] <paulej72> well we could pick out scotland the brave and amazing gRace easily enough.
[01:58:29] <juggs> http://www.bbc.co.uk
[01:58:31] <monopoly> ^ 03BBC News - Scottish independence: First referendum results declared
[01:58:58] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, did we win?
[01:59:32] <juggs> even has a "live" panel that will no doubt report every single council area as they report results.
[01:59:33] <paulej72> already read that
[01:59:47] <juggs> patience grasshopper
[02:00:28] <chromas> lol
[02:00:49] <chromas> on that dailycalled site, "Enjoy National Cheeseburger Day With These Great Buns"
[02:01:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GAO: Obamacare Website Faces Security Risks - http://sylnt.us - did-you-dot-your-eyes-and-cross-your-teas?
[02:02:43] <paulej72> does it steal your cc data?
[02:03:21] <SpallsHurgenson> worse, it eats your SOUL
[02:03:28] <SpallsHurgenson> (just like all HMOs :)
[02:03:51] <paulej72> not my Kia, i need that to get to work
[02:04:27] <juggs> It does make me chuckle reading some of the coverage trying to portray this as some kind of struggle to free Scotland from English oppression. Too much watching of Braveheart or something I suspect. The English / Scotch union was proposed and pushed for by the Scottish. The English - just kinda went "suits us, at least it means we don't have to put up with random looting parties descending from ooop north". ~shrug~
[02:05:17] <paulej72> it will cost too much so i think no will win
[02:08:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm primarily concerned on the effect it will have on the price of scotch whiskey.
[02:09:29] <juggs> I think no will win too and then we will enter a phase of Scottish devo-max (as it is being phrased here) - devolution of power without breaking the union. The uncertainty around EC membership and currency / finance really weren't dealt with sufficiently by the Yes campaign.
[02:10:02] <juggs> We'll see. Will be interesting either way.
[02:13:23] <paulej72> i would think that supporting thier own armed forces would be a big burden, unless they do not think they needed them
[02:13:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> they likely wouldn't
[02:14:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> glom on to the fact that GB will be mighty annoyed at any armed conflict that close to them.
[02:14:40] <paulej72> until norway decided to invade
[02:14:49] <juggs> newp - join UN - done deal.
[02:15:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya because the UN totally rocks at preventing wars.
[02:15:39] <paulej72> still need a coast guard or scottland becomes the back door to england
[02:15:42] <juggs> Yeh - norway is going to invade... with brit trident subs floating about gawd knows where
[02:16:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> em wily vikings
[02:16:32] <paulej72> well some of thoes brit subs were paid with scottish taxes
[02:16:37] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, it's a fair bet the brits would be a damn sight more proactive going to assist an invaded Scotland than something kicking off in Ukraine.
[02:17:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, damned skippy. scotts wouldn't need more than one guy with a gun and him to shoot the gophers on the golf course.
[02:17:28] * TheMightyBuzzard whistles the caddy shack song
[02:18:49] <paulej72> more results in
[02:19:00] * SpallsHurgenson watcjes Jurassic Park... stupid as the story is, it still holds up as a great movie
[02:19:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> still looking NO-ish?
[02:19:36] <juggs> would be an interesting state of affairs if a Yes vote transpired and all the Scots banks moved HQs to London as has been suggested. Anyway - this is all speculative - the result will be in in a few hours and exactly nothing will change for a good while whilst the red tape is dealt with.
[02:19:52] <paulej72> 46.5k no to 36.1k yes
[02:20:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[02:20:40] <paulej72> 49.5k sorry
[02:21:15] <paulej72> 4of32 reporting
[02:21:26] <chromas> Do they vote with numbers?
[02:21:37] <chromas> [1] yes [3] no
[02:21:57] <juggs> [2] juggs for global president
[02:22:08] * chromas will stretch those jokes on into infinity
[02:22:39] <paulej72> 4 send paulej72 a million pounds
[02:23:43] <juggs> sure - you can have a million of these new scottish poonds - no-one's really sure what they are worth yet
[02:24:30] <paulej72> i know. we should taka all the sub money and buy lottery tickets. when we win big we can easily pay all of SN bills
[02:24:33] <chromas> so stock up before they figure it out
[02:25:09] * TheMightyBuzzard shoots paulej72 dead 💥🔫
[02:25:15] <juggs> paulej72, good plan - that's bound to pay off :D
[02:25:37] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard put a hole in my screen
[02:25:50] <chromas> pink hole
[02:26:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> pj's fault. he ducked.
[02:26:15] <paulej72> chromas: did you get your new iPhone 6 :)
[02:26:28] <chromas> not yet
[02:26:36] * chromas checks for SoylentMail
[02:26:54] <paulej72> i figured you would be in line already
[02:27:15] <chromas> I chose the other evill
[02:27:23] <chromas> well, one of them
[02:28:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> iwatch was it?
[02:28:26] <chromas> sony
[02:29:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm boycotting sony still over OtherOS
[02:30:00] <paulej72> wtf do cats need veggies in their diets
[02:30:03] <chromas> that's why jesus invented refurbs
[02:30:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, cats graze. they eat grass like they think they're cows.
[02:31:05] <paulej72> and they puke it up 15 minutes later
[02:31:06] <SpallsHurgenson> my kitty demands grass every day.
[02:31:23] <juggs> dogs do it too - then like to puke it up a few hours later in the middle of the living room. Never understood that.
[02:31:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, it doesn't count if you have to roll it for them.
[02:32:03] <SpallsHurgenson> its suggested that cats eat grass either for certain nutrients, or as something to soothe their tummies.
[02:32:17] <paulej72> all of these cat food vendors proud that the have veggies in their formulas
[02:32:34] <paulej72> does not make sense
[02:32:59] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, they put THOSE veggies in for the humans :)
[02:33:07] <paulej72> cats are obligate carnivors
[02:33:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> one of my cats also eats peas, onions, green beans, bananas, and bacon.
[02:33:54] <SpallsHurgenson> veggies = healthy human food, ergo their caretakers believe it must also equal healthy cat food :)
[02:34:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> bacon being the king of vegetables, this is understandable.
[02:34:46] <SpallsHurgenson> my kit is generally no fan of human food, but she does love her some bacon
[02:35:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine still think they're mighty hunters for two of them managing to catch a baby rabbit the other night.
[02:36:31] <juggs> deluded
[02:36:39] <paulej72> did they torture it before killing it
[02:37:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i know the sound by now so i went n took their toy away and swapped it for some kitty treats
[02:37:37] <juggs> psychopathic mofos the lot of them
[02:37:46] <paulej72> 76.8 no 63.3 yes
[02:38:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> was half tempted to keep it on account of the cute but i let it go after it bit my finger.
[02:38:11] <SpallsHurgenson> I learned what baby-bunny-skulls sound like when they are cracked open thanks to one of my kitties :)
[02:38:30] <juggs> it's all the smaller regions reporting first paulej72
[02:38:50] <juggs> well I should say less populous rather than smaller
[02:39:10] <paulej72> yeah i know. but they may have the pulse of country
[02:40:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, i had to clean up some mexican guy's brains off a car lot when they decided to wreck their car where i worked. i'm immune to gross now for the most part.
[02:40:30] <chromas> it's the smell that gets ya
[02:40:36] <chromas> if it's been there long enough
[02:40:58] <juggs> we'll just call you Mr White TheMightyBuzzard :)
[02:42:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> used to be every week or two i'd have to clean up feet and beaks in the garage. they're getting old n slow now though.
[02:42:42] <juggs> Oh great, my SN mail addy got picked up by the spammers. ~le sigh~
[02:42:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> the fun bit is when they bring snakes in
[02:43:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, yours or chat@ ?
[02:44:24] <juggs> Good question - I forgot I just acquired that alias. Deleted without looking.
[02:44:33] <paulej72> we need spamassasin on bery if it is not already there
[02:44:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> liable to get a lot through chat@. it's a public addy.
[02:47:02] <juggs> paulej72, you volunteering to caress spamassassin rulesets?
[02:47:13] <paulej72> fuck no
[02:47:45] <paulej72> i just use the defaults
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[02:52:31] <juggs> hehe, I thought not. As long as it's set to just set an X-Spam-Status header and perhaps put [SPAM] in the Subject line so my client can herd it off to the Junk folder for review before mass deletion then that would be good. I've yet to see any SpamAssassin deployment not fire false positives. Usually down to some asshat blacklist curator in my exp.
[02:58:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> believe i'll hit the sack. scotts can manage by themselves until i wake up.
[02:59:23] <juggs> ooh 178.8K NO 172.4K YES Yes is fighting back with a Dundee win.
[03:00:05] <juggs> sleep well TheMightyBuzzard
[03:00:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple’s “Warrant Canary” Disappears, Suggesting New Patriot Act Demands - http://sylnt.us - proving-a-negative
[03:11:07] <juggs> 207.5K NO v 206.1K YES
[03:22:02] <ar> what's the procedure there? is 50% enough, or do they need more, like 60 or 70%?
[03:23:08] <SpallsHurgenson> 11 out of 32 reporting: 322.9K "No", 285.9K "Yes"
[03:23:51] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: at the time they removed the otheros feature, it was irrelevant, really.
[03:24:22] <juggs> East Lothian and Stirling - no surprise there.
[03:24:47] <juggs> 381 v 335 now Falkirk came in.
[03:24:57] <SpallsHurgenson> I agree totally; we all knew how East Lothian was going
[03:25:16] <juggs> ar - >50% is the line.
[03:26:02] <SpallsHurgenson> "The UK government has stated that if a simple majority of the votes cast are in favour of independence, then "Scotland would become an independent country after a process of negotiations""
[03:30:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Major Fireball over Eastern USA - http://sylnt.us - big-bright-bolide
[03:30:58] <juggs> 426K v 370K
[03:31:47] <paulej72> some big ones are expecting to release their results soon
[03:32:32] <SpallsHurgenson> there are no bright lights in my sky... the sky itself is too bright around here
[03:37:18] <juggs> Boom 622K v 490.8K at the halfway mark.
[03:38:49] <juggs> Be interesting when Glasgow and Edinburgh report.
[03:38:49] <ciri> me too, smoke time! juggs
[03:39:01] <juggs> good idea ciri!
[03:39:13] <juggs> .f2c 90
[03:39:14] <ciri> Converted 90 Fahrenheit => 32.2248 Celsius
[03:39:38] <paulej72> 670 521
[03:47:18] <juggs> 903 v 738.2
[03:47:36] <juggs> 19/32 counts
[03:48:36] <juggs> could do with an rss feed for this :D I'm too lazy though, I'll rely on the bbc site lol
[03:49:20] <SpallsHurgenson> and I'll rely on you :)
[03:50:34] juggs is now known as vote-bot
[03:50:42] <vote-bot> :P
[03:53:14] <SpallsHurgenson> vote-bot, !whoswinning
[03:53:31] <vote-bot> One thing bbc do well is having journos in all the counting centres for elections and referendums in the UK and being prompt on it. Take or leave their "news" as you find it - it's no more or less biased than any other outlet.
[03:53:44] <paulej72> 1031k 733k
[03:54:13] <vote-bot> 1031K v 833K
[03:54:34] <paulej72> misremebered
[03:56:21] * JamesNZ nothing of the vote till last night
[03:56:31] <JamesNZ> knew nothing*
[03:56:38] <paulej72> 1256k 1055k Glasgow reported
[03:56:55] <paulej72> no wining
[03:57:18] <SpallsHurgenson> I still think this issue should have been determined with a Quake3 deathmatch
[03:58:57] <vote-bot> It's going to playout pretty much 50:50 or 60:40 one way or t'other. Hardly a decisive vote. Yay democracy
[03:59:03] vote-bot is now known as juggs
[03:59:09] <SpallsHurgenson> everyone in scotland logs in, joins the appropriate team, and fights it out :)
[04:00:02] <Popeidol> but which country would you host the servers in?
[04:00:22] <JamesNZ> Ireland :)
[04:00:22] <paulej72> north korea
[04:01:11] <SpallsHurgenson> scotland seems oddly appropriate
[04:02:34] <SpallsHurgenson> although given the number of users, maybe EVE would have been a more appropriate game
[04:02:46] <paulej72> 1305k to 1102k
[04:03:18] <paulej72> 1822 needed to win
[04:03:32] <juggs> nades and knives only server. Bring yer best kilts! Bagpipes do not class as armour - although they may class as weapons.
[04:11:24] <juggs> We'll allow claymores in place of knives (that's the claymore sword not the M18 mine).
[04:14:46] <paulej72> fife and edinburgh seem to be sitting on yheir results
[04:20:29] <juggs> big counts
[04:22:32] <juggs> I expect Edinburgh to be a No though - generally they are quite conservative (he says in a horribly broad brush stereotyping statement). ~sigh~
[04:29:36] <juggs> that was conservative with a small C. They also have considerations on tax takes from their financial sector to consider.
[04:34:15] <paulej72> edinburgh look close to calling it no
[04:36:21] <juggs> amateur voyeur speculates - Yes campaign didn't get their ducks lined up on the european and currency matters before letting loose their campaign. cynical voyeur speculates - the Yes campaign never expected to win but pushing the referendum to the top of the pile ensured devo-max, discussions and compromise that would not have happened in more "normal" times.
[04:37:39] <juggs> The whole thing has been like watching a clumsy chess game.
[04:38:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> cannot sleep voyeur speculates - half the yes voters started celebrating early and passed out before voting
[04:39:24] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, you know this will mean you'll sleep in and then be useless for anything. Fancy a wee dram?
[04:40:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's pretty much assured already. no believe i'll have a benadryl and watch some tv for a bit.
[04:42:11] <juggs> Next thing you know you'll have ordered a comfy chair with two motors to help you stand up again and a steam mop. Late night TV - gotta love it.
[04:43:29] <juggs> 1397K vs 1177K
[04:44:56] <juggs> those close shots of a dust mite will bug ya out man.... don't do it!
[04:57:56] <juggs> I'm wondering why vote counters need to wear hi-vis gear - that's bizarre. Hi-vis vests with reflective stripes - makes sense doing road works at night - in a well lit stadium, paper shuffling type role - not so much.
[05:00:51] <SpallsHurgenson> probably cheapest "uniform" they could find
[05:01:25] * SpallsHurgenson refrains from making obvious "cheap Scotsman" joke
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[05:04:34] <juggs> 1737K v 1398K with 29/32 declared. Looks like a done deal.
[05:09:53] <juggs> No doubt my news feeds will be clogged with "analysis" for weeks hence as to "what this means" whilst we start chucking hell on earth at the middle east ~again~.
[05:19:40] <juggs> 1914K v 1540K with 31/32 reported. vote-bot signing off.
[05:21:48] <juggs> It was No to independence for those that like a TL;DR. Sorry Catalonia, no precedence here.
[05:50:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Linus Torvalds Shares his Opinion on systemd - http://sylnt.us - voice-from-on-high
[05:56:57] <JamesNZ> Wasn't that posted yesterday?
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[06:12:14] <chromas> phone_display_activating_on_notification_while_in_my_pocket--
[06:12:14] <Bender> karma - phone_display_activating_on_notification_while_in_my_pocket: -1
[07:00:47] <Konomi> vibrate mode engaged
[07:05:49] <crutchy> coffee++
[07:05:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 806
[07:05:58] <crutchy> !grab Konomi
[07:05:58] <Bender> Added quote 246
[07:06:11] <ar> coffee--
[07:06:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 805
[07:10:26] <crutchy> what's new?
[07:10:49] <crutchy> is ireland a separate country?
[07:10:58] <ar> nope
[07:11:23] <ar> ~2000K (no) vs 1500K (yes
[07:11:28] <Konomi> damn it
[07:24:14] * crutchy doesn't really know much about the issue, but it seems like a big deal
[07:25:02] <crutchy> there's prolly some benefit to ireland to remain with britain i guess; doesn't need a substantial national defence force
[07:26:15] <crutchy> ~queue
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[08:04:56] <crutchy> might shoot some cops in gta vice city
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[08:09:02] <ar> http://www.vedomosti.ru
[08:09:04] <monopoly> ^ 03 -
[08:11:08] <ar> monopoly: you're drunk. go home!
[08:11:12] <ar> ВЕДОМОСТИ - Совет безопасности обсудит отключение России от глобального интернета
[08:17:50] * monopoly sheds a unicode tear 💧
[08:50:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Debian Security Advisory - DSA-3025-1 apt - Security Update - http://sylnt.us - apt-to-fail
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[10:08:25] <crutchy> hmm there's only 38 people in here, excluding bots, xlefay and FoobarBazbot
[10:09:10] <chromas> FoobarBazbot (ping) still posts on the web page. I wonder if he'll ever stop by irc
[10:10:27] <crutchy> !stats
[10:10:27] <Bender> creating stats for channel #Soylent (Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970)
[10:10:42] <crutchy> !update-stats
[10:10:49] <crutchy> !updatestats
[10:11:11] <crutchy> !statsupdate
[10:11:16] <crutchy> !stats-update
[10:11:32] <crutchy> !stats-run
[10:11:54] <crutchy> !stats-initialize
[10:12:38] <crutchy> !stats-initiate-evasive-maneuver-beta-six
[10:14:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:14:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 806
[10:14:46] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:14:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 807
[10:14:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin
[10:15:06] <crutchy> g'day
[10:15:08] <ciri> hi crutchy
[10:15:15] <crutchy> weekend++
[10:15:15] <Bender> karma - weekend: 6
[10:15:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> here's hoping. 4h of sleep though so not holding my breath.
[10:15:54] <crutchy> ~time
[10:15:56] <exec> Friday, 19 September 2014 @ 8:15 pm GMT+10 - Traralgon VIC, Australia
[10:16:23] <chromas> ~time
[10:16:24] <exec> Friday, 19 September 2014 @ 3:16 am PDT - Walla Walla, WA
[10:16:30] <chromas> Not quite morning here
[10:16:32] <crutchy> my farts will hit you at about 4.30pm
[10:18:00] <crutchy> i changed the weathery thing to deg F. prolly more yanks in here and if i make it harder for me to use i might get off my bum and code the setting thingy sooner
[10:18:07] <chromas> how do they compare to dogfarts?
[10:18:08] <ciri> not sure
[10:18:36] <crutchy> they were pretty gross
[10:18:49] <chromas> when you do, just make it a flag with the location
[10:19:06] <chromas> so there's only an option for people who have a ~location value
[10:19:28] <crutchy> chromas++
[10:19:28] <Bender> karma - chromas: 33
[10:19:35] <crutchy> 4boob
[10:19:57] <crutchy> oh man thats even better than 4chan
[10:20:06] <crutchy> ~isup 4boob.com
[10:20:07] <chromas> does it exists?
[10:20:08] <exec> 4boob.com: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[10:20:39] <chromas> .com and .org seem to exist
[10:21:07] <crutchy> so sn could have been 4boob.net
[10:22:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ask Soylent: What's after the iPod Classic? - http://sylnt.us - No-wireless.-Less-space-than-a-nomad.-Lame.
[10:22:40] <chromas> what's after it?
[10:22:43] <crutchy> but does it blend?
[10:22:45] <chromas> the next one?
[10:23:02] <crutchy> iPod Original
[10:23:09] <crutchy> iPod Platinum
[10:23:26] <crutchy> iPod Terrorist Edition
[10:23:26] <chromas> iPod Bewbium
[10:24:26] <crutchy> iPod Congressman Edition
[10:24:51] <chromas> Nobody wants that
[10:24:52] <crutchy> iPod EBT
[10:25:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas the same as the bewbium edition
[10:25:16] <crutchy> iPod iSmack
[10:25:24] <crutchy> iBong
[10:25:27] <chromas> the bewbium one jiggles
[10:25:43] <chromas> and is touch sensitive all around
[10:26:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but congressmen are boobs
[10:26:19] <crutchy> iPod Flesh
[10:27:11] <chromas> congressmen are implants
[10:27:14] <chromas> implants--
[10:27:14] <Bender> karma - implants: -2
[10:27:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> iWatch bewbs
[10:28:05] <crutchy> iPood
[10:29:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> iWatch prawn
[10:29:13] <crutchy> iPoon
[10:29:55] <chromas> needs the tang expansion
[10:30:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> tang has vitamin c
[10:32:44] <chromas> put a smile on your face…
[10:33:38] * TheMightyBuzzard still thinks Hooters needs to buy the Twizzlers slogan
[10:34:19] <chromas> which is…
[10:34:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> delightfully tacky yet unrefined is nice but makes mouths happy would be better
[10:34:37] <chromas> oh yeah
[10:35:12] <chromas> "I love new Hooters Pull 'n' Peel"
[10:36:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... can't decide if a radio host getting fired for calling a guy who married a 6yo a pedophile is our kinda story
[10:37:31] <chromas> whatever; someone will bitch no matter what
[10:38:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh the resident libs'd bitch their fool heads off after they found out Mohamed was the guy in question
[10:39:36] <crutchy> the minister/official that performed the marriage is a pedophile
[10:41:43] <chromas> oh
[10:41:46] <chromas> wait a minute
[10:41:54] <crutchy> wow australia is sending military help to fight isil, and now is under threat from random beheadings by isil... couldn't have seen that one coming from a mile away :/
[10:42:07] <chromas> so would the Muslim show be called Diddler on the Roof?
[10:42:10] <crutchy> fucking retarded politicians
[10:46:16] * crutchy is so glad he refrained from voting in the last federal election... his conscious is clear
[10:47:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, this is what happens when you conquer a country but don't make it a state.
[10:47:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> State rather
[10:47:38] <crutchy> what happens?
[10:47:48] <crutchy> you get idiot politicians?
[10:49:02] <crutchy> its what happens when the USA gives weapons to a bunch of crazy religious kooks (besides israel)
[10:49:54] <crutchy> "don't worry we're only giving guns to the 'good' rebels to fight assad"
[10:50:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> no you leave a power vacuum when you go from having uber military to noob military overnight.
[10:50:56] <crutchy> US military fucked up iraq pretty bad
[10:50:59] <crutchy> proper fucked
[10:51:18] <crutchy> you guys gunna be paying for that for generations
[10:51:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> that happens when you bomb somewhere all to hell
[10:51:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> if we woulda just declared it state 51 and left troops it woulda been easier all around.
[10:52:19] <crutchy> they would just be target practice
[10:52:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus pols wouldn't ever have to go looking for a war again.
[10:52:30] <crutchy> like the ones that were there for a while
[10:53:06] <chromas> crutchy: then we install photon canons and lurkers
[10:53:23] <chromas> 52, 53, 54…
[10:53:31] <crutchy> ooh yeah... but what happens when the bad guys get lurkers
[10:53:45] <crutchy> and drops them right into your base
[10:54:06] <chromas> we can always zerg rush them too
[10:54:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, see, now yer thinking
[10:54:19] <crutchy> and take out your photon cannons with those flying fucks that can shoot ground targets from a mile away
[10:54:20] <chromas> systemctl start draft
[10:54:43] <crutchy> slaughterctl start operation get behind the darkies
[10:55:32] <chromas> Guardians
[10:55:40] <chromas> the flying crabs
[10:55:48] <chromas> though for some reason I always thought they looked like spiders
[10:56:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, just have some carriers patrolling the perimeter too. they eat guardians for breakfast
[10:56:24] <crutchy> i think a zergling crawled up my ass and died
[10:56:48] <chromas> I had that earlier too. Only thing I'd eaten was a salsa pizza
[10:56:56] <crutchy> i'm sorry when the earth collides you guys with my fart
[10:57:09] <crutchy> *farts
[10:57:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> you saying we should put a vespene gas extractor on your chair?
[10:57:40] <crutchy> on my ass
[10:57:44] <chromas> You've not enough minerals
[10:58:04] <chromas> That's what your wife said…
[10:58:37] <crutchy> no she said "your balls are showing"
[10:59:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is WHY she said you've not enough minerals
[11:01:12] <crutchy> dammit now i wanna play sc
[11:01:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i should see how it plays on wine
[11:02:02] <crutchy> i can attest that it plays awesome on wine :D
[11:02:18] <chromas> when it's on wine or you are?
[11:02:25] <chromas> d2 also works
[11:02:27] <chromas> and d3, sc2
[11:02:28] <crutchy> hmm i should be on wine
[11:02:49] <crutchy> winectl start chugging
[11:03:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but who cares about d3 and sc2?
[11:03:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i wouldn't play d3 if you paid me
[11:03:25] <crutchy> my missus offered to buy me sc2. i said not to bother
[11:03:26] <chromas> Somebody should make a ctlctl, to manage all the *ctls that actually exist in the various /bins
[11:03:52] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: it is pretty crappy. A lot of the monsters are like Soylent mod points
[11:04:02] <crutchy> all the ctls in all the /bins are all controlled from the master bucket
[11:04:16] <crutchy> the fucket bucket
[11:04:27] <chromas> and once I figured out the right skills it was pretty hard to die except when I started dazing off while playing
[11:05:07] * crutchy needs to make a nice scenario cos the custom maps that come with sc kinda blow
[11:05:18] * crutchy likes teaming up with an ai
[11:05:28] <chromas> however, you do find out that what's-her-name from the first Diablo—the purple-coated witch—banged Diablo and manifests himself in his own half-human daughter
[11:05:50] <crutchy> witch-banged++
[11:06:05] <chromas> the cgi daugher's not too bad looking
[11:06:24] <chromas> torchlight++
[11:06:25] <Bender> karma - torchlight: 1
[11:06:52] <chromas> 1?!
[11:06:56] <chromas> ciri: 3
[11:07:00] <chromas> 3
[11:07:01] <ciri> 4
[11:07:02] <ciri> 5
[11:07:04] <ciri> 6
[11:07:06] <ciri> 7
[11:07:08] <ciri> 8
[11:07:10] <ciri> 9
[11:07:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> torchlight++
[11:07:11] <Bender> karma - torchlight: 2
[11:07:12] <ciri> 10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:07:32] <chromas> I butt-pirated the first one and got in on the beta for 2
[11:08:00] <chromas> I'm pretty sure the first main bos was way tougher in the beta but the char level was also clipped
[11:08:10] <chromas> main bos
[11:08:13] <chromas> les bos
[11:09:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> still in beta?
[11:09:28] <chromas> no that was a while back
[11:09:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i completely forgot about it after i beat the original a few times.
[11:09:36] <chromas> but I did pick it up on steam; pretty cheap
[11:10:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh right, i only ever played 2
[11:10:13] <chromas> apparently they wanted to make it an mmo but felt they needed to put out something smaller first since they were starting anew
[11:10:51] <chromas> in d3, you can get all the way through the entire game without equipping all your armor sluts
[11:11:06] <chromas> basic_item_rarity--
[11:11:06] <Bender> karma - basic_item_rarity: -1
[11:12:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> d3 can eat a dick because no lan mode.
[11:12:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> and no proper single player
[11:12:36] <chromas> that aside, the game itself actually sucked last I played it a couple years ago
[11:13:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> really need a new D2
[11:13:53] <chromas> Path of Exile is intersting
[11:13:58] <chromas> think it's online only though
[11:14:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> tried it. gets freakin hard late in the game.
[11:14:30] <chromas> torchlight's probably the closest since it's made by the diablo devs
[11:14:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> too many one-shots, you bout gotta group.
[11:14:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. music too.
[11:15:53] <chromas> matt_uelmen++
[11:15:53] <Bender> karma - matt_uelmen: 1
[11:16:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't remember if it played well on wine though
[11:16:34] <chromas> yeah
[11:16:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> poe i mean
[11:16:41] <chromas> I think I've only played it on wine
[11:16:45] <chromas> that too
[11:16:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[11:18:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> would really like something with a linux native port. even on steam would work.
[11:19:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's just fuck all interesting to me for linux games on steam though
[11:21:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> yaourt -Syu --aur time i think
[11:22:03] <chromas> forgot about yaourt
[11:22:07] <chromas> been using pacaur
[11:22:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[11:22:12] <chromas> There's just so many to choose from
[11:22:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[11:22:21] <chromas> pacaur, aurpac
[11:22:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> bout time they patched lxpanel too. getting tired of the segfaults
[11:23:29] <chromas> archlinux++
[11:23:29] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 51
[11:23:43] <chromas> nothing good in the updates
[11:23:51] <chromas> oh wait, kernel and video driver
[11:24:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> archlinux++
[11:24:29] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 52
[11:24:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> nvidia or ati?
[11:24:55] <chromas> nvidia
[11:25:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm
[11:25:22] <chromas> gives me cuda for gpu rendering
[11:25:37] <crutchy> gunna watch first episode of voyager season 1... and maybe 2nd and 3rd :D
[11:25:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy. i usually skip ahead to the seven of boobs episodes
[11:26:14] <chromas> sounds like a jerb for youtube
[11:27:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i thought it sounded like a job for /storage/TV-Complete/Star Trek Voyager/
[11:30:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> new palemoon version too
[11:30:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Enlightenment E19 Officially Released With Its Own Wayland Compositor - http://sylnt.us - bodhisattva
[11:31:23] <chromas> I want to like enlightenment but the configuration seems so scattered and it crashes a lot
[11:31:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto
[11:32:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus i don't wanna do conf files for EVERYTHING
[11:32:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, reboot cause of kernel update
[11:32:40] <chromas> oh yeah
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[11:36:13] <chromas> linux_igp-- for being ancient
[11:36:13] <Bender> karma - linux_igp: -1
[11:36:25] <chromas> s/p/d/
[11:36:25] <SedBot9000> <chromas> linux_igd-- for being ancient
[11:37:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> yay, no more segfaults
[11:37:48] <chromas> so far
[11:38:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> well none on lxpanel
[11:39:03] <chromas> they're not random?
[11:39:14] <chromas> just some right after boot?
[11:39:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> was segfaulting any time i clicked on it unless i was clicking on something
[11:39:29] <chromas> ah
[11:39:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> like switching windows or hitting a launcher was fine. just hitting a panel wasn't
[12:01:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:01:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 808
[12:06:13] <chromas> can't figure out where my bot's ruining the title of that Russian page
[12:06:31] <chromas> Oh well, English is the only language we need >:)
[12:18:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn skippy
[13:02:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ig Nobel Prizes - http://sylnt.us - thirst-for-knowledge-and-whiskey
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[13:07:56] <stderr> Knowledge and whiskey? I thought we preferred rum on talk-like-a-pirate day.
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[13:19:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar! that we does, matey!
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[13:20:44] <paulej72> yo ho ho and a bottle of rum
[13:20:49] <Blackmoore> yar!
[13:21:01] <Blackmoore> Ahoy me maties!
[13:21:23] <Blackmoore> it be tark like a a pirate day.
[13:21:54] <Blackmoore> me awful spelin and gram'r will fit right in
[13:22:41] <Blackmoore> run++
[13:22:41] <Bender> karma - run: 1
[13:22:44] <Blackmoore> rum++
[13:22:44] <Bender> karma - rum: 15
[13:23:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> scurvy Data::Dumparrr
[13:23:28] <Popeidol> ram++
[13:23:28] <Bender> karma - ram: 1
[13:23:46] <Popeidol> I can't believe people are so ambivalent about ram
[13:24:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe they prefer their sheep female
[13:25:10] <TK> What's a pirate's favorite letter?
[13:26:24] <Popeidol> ARRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[13:26:32] <TK> Nay, tis the C
[13:26:53] <Popeidol> today is the perfect day to release my new nautical-themed mascara
[13:27:20] <Popeidol> I call it 'forty lashes'
[13:27:43] <TK> huehuehue
[13:27:58] <TK> rather, har har har
[13:29:50] <Blackmoore> Nay - C be the pirates' favorate programming language.
[13:30:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 17th Century Clock Inspires Power Harvester Implementation - http://sylnt.us - ambient-time
[13:34:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> Blackmoore, we be mighty fond of perl too, yarr.
[13:37:20] <stderr> O'Reilly is having a sale on Arrr! books today. Just like last talk-like-a-pirate day.
[13:38:24] <stderr> And you can get a free donut at Krispy Kreme, if you talk like a pirate... Or a dozen, if you dress up.
[13:38:34] <stderr> ... just like last year.
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[13:50:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[13:51:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can't decide if I want to call this good or not. http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[13:51:06] <monopoly> ^ 03Dev.SN Submissions
[13:52:07] <crutchy> captain_janeway++
[13:52:07] <Bender> karma - captain_janeway: 1
[13:53:15] <crutchy> looks good
[13:53:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> captain_crunch++
[13:53:17] <Bender> karma - captain_crunch: 1
[13:53:27] <crutchy> can you make the columns the same width?
[13:53:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, my fu does not extend to tables.
[13:54:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is to say i have no idea why the above tables are formatted at differing widths.
[13:55:03] <Blackmoore> I have the HTML fu.
[13:55:25] <crutchy> make the table widths the same and set column withs for all except the title abd they should line upm but need to know where to change/check that i guess
[13:56:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Blackmoore, if you can make them match, rock on with your bad self. show me on what you get and i'll tweak the template. or you can tweak the template directly if you prefer.
[13:56:23] <Blackmoore> tables generated here are dynamic. the damn thing it tryign to fit two seperate tables .. what we need here is <td width=XX> for the first two columns
[13:56:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> erm... won't scale well then will it?
[13:57:54] <crutchy> if table widths are set to 100% if their containing elements and all tds have width set except one column, the remaining column will stretch to fit. if you use em instead of px should scale i think
[13:58:23] <Blackmoore> well we might be able to start with cutting crud out of the pending
[13:58:25] * crutchy 's css fu isn't crash hot
[13:58:36] <Blackmoore> all of the pending look like
[13:58:38] <Blackmoore> <td>Mainpage</td><td> 08/20 14:45 </td>
[13:58:58] <crutchy> have you made up a new template for the new table at the bottom?
[13:59:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, tacked it on to the old one
[13:59:39] <Blackmoore> where all of the ready to go up look like <td>Mainpage</td> <td>10/20 14:59</td>
[13:59:39] <crutchy> ah
[14:00:05] <Blackmoore> if you get rid of the that will help
[14:01:00] <crutchy> maybe some fluff in the timestamp format string?
[14:01:31] <crutchy> the nonbreaking might just be an innocent conversion
[14:01:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> Blackmoore, no idea where it even came from so it has to get removed hackishly.
[14:02:37] <crutchy> ~time
[14:02:38] <exec> Saturday, 20 September 2014 @ 12:02 am GMT+10 - Traralgon VIC, Australia
[14:03:05] <crutchy> haf fun guys. ima signin off for tonight. catch yas on the flipside
[14:03:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[14:05:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> Blackmoore, cleared that but didn't help that i can see
[14:06:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> and the top ones still have it
[14:07:25] * TheMightyBuzzard fixes that too
[14:10:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> if width in em can fix it, i'll see about doing that
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[14:21:28] <Blackmoore> that loks right to me now
[14:21:48] <Blackmoore> all lined up!
[14:21:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> best i can do, doesn't scale well to narrow though
[14:22:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> percent maybe?
[14:22:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, think we're better with em
[14:22:46] <Blackmoore> percent should work too.
[14:23:03] <Blackmoore> since both tables re at 90% of total
[14:23:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, going to check see i didn't leave any debug in and commit/pull request the bastich then.
[14:25:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> only other thing i can think of is getting submitted names for people who submit as AC but using a name/email
[14:26:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> but i really don't care that much, so PJ can fix that up if he likes.
[14:26:16] <Blackmoore> :P
[14:26:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean it's not even important enough info to have on the page IMO
[14:27:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> not for the purpose it's serving
[14:27:48] <paulej72> you can not make html tables columns the same width without setting the width on ecah column. The problem is that the top table has extra columns if an admin is looking at it, so you need to completly reowrk the template logic to make it work.
[14:30:16] <paulej72> column widths should be set in % not em or px as we have a fluid layout, unless you are fixing them to a min and letting one column expand.
[14:31:37] <Blackmoore> he was letting the title column expande
[14:31:49] <Blackmoore> which was the right one to pick
[14:38:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, admin gets a different template for that page
[14:39:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> i fixed the three small ones to the minimum-ish they'd need and let the other with the title grow however much it likes.
[14:41:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> percent based would have scaled the small ones to wide on wide screens and/or shrunk it to unmanageable on narrow ones
[14:44:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, give it a check out if you have a moment. http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[14:44:48] <monopoly> ^ 03Dev.SN Submissions
[14:45:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> new thing won't show at all for admin so if you log in with your admin account it'll disappear
[14:46:33] <paulej72> Looks fine, you did use em correct?
[14:47:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[14:47:39] <paulej72> I am wondering if we want to keep the the filtering for normal users. Our lists are small at this point so it seems like a waste of space
[14:48:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> my thinking: it would take extra work to remove it so why bother when we may have to put it back in six months or a year.
[14:49:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> now hiding it if we have less than oh, 20 submissions...
[14:49:39] <paulej72> I like that idea
[14:49:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> might as well see if i can add it easily then.
[14:49:57] <paulej72> use the nagger variable?
[14:50:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was just going to do scalar on submissions but if you know the nagger var offhand...
[14:52:07] <paulej72> subs_level. Bad var name, but this was early on in my slash coding
[14:53:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> works for me, what's it hide in? $constants? no... nm, i'll grep it
[14:53:44] <paulej72> yes
[14:53:52] <paulej72> currently set to 20
[14:54:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[14:54:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya that works
[14:54:55] <paulej72> or should we go whole hog and create a seperate var?
[14:55:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, that should do until we run into a point where it won't
[14:55:57] <paulej72> sounds good to me.
[14:59:10] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: your switch for future headlines should have 0 off not 0 Everyone,
[14:59:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya think?
[14:59:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, can reverse that
[15:00:38] <paulej72> would be consistant with other slash vars that do this kind of thing and it would be sothing that other users may need.
[15:01:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, will reverse numerical priority
[15:01:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Coffee++ Sequencing Coffee's Genome to Fight Leaf Rust - http://sylnt.us - maybe-they-can-get-a-grant-from-starbucks
[15:06:23] <paulej72> There is also the <td>[% sub.note | strip_nohtml %]</td> column in the subEdUsers template that can cause formatting errors. I think we should delete this from the user template. any notes should be admin only
[15:06:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight
[15:08:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> done and pushed
[15:11:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, scratch that. i should have checked to see if hiding the form worked first
[15:16:09] <paulej72> https://github.com put you conditional here. and only do it if not admin
[15:16:36] <paulej72> revert the template back to normal
[15:16:59] <paulej72> subEdTable one that is
[15:17:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't. have to have an if there to hide it.
[15:17:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> can do the > logic in the .pl though
[15:19:25] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: my way will not work, the title and stuff is in the subEDTable. so do the same check, but move the to incude the whole of the form on that template. and only do if user is not admin.
[15:20:30] <paulej72> so alwasy show for admin, or when countsubs > constants.subs_level
[15:20:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ooooh, i gotcha
[15:20:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> was having minor brain issues there
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[15:24:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> had to run the template anyway cause it has the titlebar n such in it. no big whoop though
[15:25:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha!
[15:26:47] <paulej72> that was what I was saying :)
[15:27:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> stupid templates! you = conquered!
[15:29:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> pushed again
[15:29:46] <paulej72> ok looks good now
[15:30:39] <paulej72> one minor issue
[15:31:06] * TheMightyBuzzard shoots paulej72 dead 💥🔫
[15:31:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, go ahead. i just like that alias
[15:32:51] <paulej72> <td colspan="6"> should be <td colspan=“4”>
[15:33:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, prolly should be
[15:34:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> pushed
[15:34:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo
[15:34:46] <Bender> todo for themightybuzzard: 1) get m2 working 2) argue for the death of Overrated and Underrated 3) IDN support 4) utf8mb4 upgrade 5) queued articles on the submissions page discussion 6) discuss allowing extra html formatting tags in comments 7) finish bitcoin support
[15:35:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> !done 5
[15:35:02] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[15:35:05] <paulej72> merged
[15:35:35] <paulej72> ok off to lunch
[15:35:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy
[15:38:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> !done 7
[15:38:18] <Bender> no items deleted
[15:38:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> !done 6
[15:38:24] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[15:39:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo
[15:39:46] <Bender> todo for themightybuzzard: 1) get m2 working 2) argue for the death of Overrated and Underrated 3) IDN support 4) utf8mb4 upgrade 5) discuss allowing extra html formatting tags in comments
[15:40:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think i wanna get at least a partial moderation rework done for 14.10
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[16:01:57] <Blackmoore> !todo
[16:01:57] <Bender> todo for blackmoore: 1) Start drinking 2) get more rum
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[16:03:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> your todo list is better than mine
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[16:04:35] <Blackmoore> and appropriate for today too
[16:10:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should watch a pirate movie today
[16:30:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Play to Require Physical Address for App Details - http://sylnt.us - where-you-at?
[16:42:48] <Blackmoore> AYE!
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[18:24:38] <arcz> I have a suggestion, make it possible to filter comments by type, e.g., "informative" and hide comments you don't want to see, even if they have high points, e.g. hide "+5, funny" comments.
[18:29:48] <chromas> Score modifiers
[18:30:29] <arcz> is it already possible?
[18:30:57] <chromas> http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:58] <monopoly> ^ 03Log In
[18:31:07] * chromas spanks bot
[18:31:25] <chromas> ""Readon Modifier"
[18:31:31] <chromas> There's also friend/foe ones
[18:31:41] <chromas> if only I could spell
[18:39:55] <chromas> facebook still has Pirate English mode. Too bad it doesn't fix the site
[18:40:11] <chromas> And Like is just Like now, instead of "Arr!"
[18:40:35] <chromas> must be a special trademark or something
[18:40:57] <monopoly> Wall of text; bad form, sir
[18:49:43] <Blackmoore> monopoly shove off.
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[18:50:11] <Blackmoore> and ahoy guys.
[18:50:43] <monopoly> Arr! I'll jus' be leavin' with my undersized treasure chests then
[18:51:52] <exec> ahoy, thar, Blackmoore!
[18:54:09] <chromas> monopoly: s/y/e/
[18:54:09] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <monopoly> Arr! I'll jus' be leavin' with me undersized treasure chests then
[18:54:59] <Blackmoore> Sorry monopoly - i thought you were a bot
[18:55:28] <JamesNZ> monopoly is a bot :P
[18:55:46] <Blackmoore> well then - that's a fine response out of it
[18:56:31] <monopoly> Everyone is a bot
[18:56:33] <chromas> And how does Everyone is a bot make you feel, monopoly?
[18:57:26] <Landon> woohoo, psychologist appointment tomorrow
[18:57:33] <Landon> the results are in and the crowd is waiting
[18:57:39] <Landon> does landon have significant ADHD or not
[18:57:46] <Landon> wait
[18:57:48] <Landon> not tomorrow, Monday
[18:59:13] <Blackmoore> (sorry OCD has me washing hands again..) :P
[18:59:54] <Landon> I can't stand the dirty hands
[19:00:02] <Landon> not to an OCD level, but... if my hands are unclean, I am unclean
[19:00:08] <Landon> if my hands are clean, the rest of me is good to go :)
[19:00:10] <chromas> So how does that work? Is there a score or something?
[19:00:24] * chromas jingles change, updates OS and goes off to, ooh, change!
[19:00:49] <Landon> chromas: I took about a dozen tests... I hope I get some scores from that
[19:01:12] <Landon> but I understand the results are going to be fairly subjective,a llowing for psychologist interpretation
[19:01:19] <chromas> I hope they're all even numbers
[19:01:33] <Blackmoore> in order
[19:02:05] <Landon> from roundest to sharpest
[19:02:46] <chromas> "Everybody take out a circle of paper"
[19:02:58] <Landon> what is this, BSG?
[19:07:41] <chromas> https://www.eff.org
[19:14:34] <Landon> hah http://www.snopes.com
[19:14:35] <monopoly> ^ 03snopes.com: Teen Buys iPhone 6, Drops It
[19:19:49] <chromas> it's because it's soo big and just too awesome for his hands
[19:29:15] <Blackmoore> good eff link there chromas
[19:30:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Spies Would Need SUPER POWERS to Tap Undersea Cables. - http://sylnt.us - unless-they-were-'accidentally'-broken
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[20:32:03] <Blackmoore> Quick Robin - to the batcave!
[20:33:48] <lentilsoup> The child protective services are here again! Quick, Robin, go hide in the cave!
[20:34:25] <lentilsoup> The rich can get away with anything.
[20:43:26] <paulej72> http://comicsforeveryone.wordpress.com
[20:43:27] <monopoly> ^ 03Batman?s Gay? Who Cares? | Nerd Life
[20:47:53] <lentilsoup> http://upload.wikimedia.org
[20:48:35] <lentilsoup> I was surprised they let Joel Schumacher make movies after that.
[20:53:03] <Blackmoore> OK Robin; it time for "training" "gee that's swell batman! I'll go get into the gimp suit!"
[20:54:04] <chromas> Suspect admits stealing sheriff’s Jeep
[20:54:18] <chromas> "[sherif] Turner had momentarily gotten out of his vehicle near the drive-through window at Taqueria Jungapeti restaurant and left the motor running, according to Walla Walla police.
[20:54:18] <chromas> Turner had left the Jeep to speak briefly with off-duty Fish & Wildlife Officer Rob McQuary when Lambert jumped in and took off."
[20:56:11] <Blackmoore> um.. mr sherriff.. you're a dumbass.
[20:56:35] <chromas> that's the opinion of many around here
[21:02:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 4Mbps Isn’t Fast Enough for “Broadband” - FCC Chairman - http://sylnt.us - wake-me-when-it-is-implemented
[21:30:37] <chromas> ooh, one soylent mail went to Spam. Haven't seen that in a while, if ever
[21:31:10] <lentilsoup> 'and this little piggy went to spam'
[21:31:50] <chromas> oui oui oui!
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[21:45:12] <ar> http://arachnist.is-a.cat
[21:45:13] <monopoly> ^ 03Rhotoalbum :: dellstuff
[21:45:37] <chromas> Ooh, rhotographs
[21:46:08] <chromas> So new toy?
[21:46:10] <ar> also, those Dell U2414H screens are next to borderless
[21:46:13] <ar> new toys
[21:46:32] <chromas> cool
[21:46:39] <chromas> laptop-like keyboard
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[22:04:28] <Ethanol-fueled> DUUUDE GUYS IM DRUNK
[22:04:31] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAH
[22:04:55] <mythterj> Hide your womenfolk.
[22:05:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Not really. I have a 6-page research paper due by 5pm tomorrow.
[22:05:45] <Ethanol-fueled> haven't started it yet. Neglected it in favor of the maths.
[22:06:01] <Ethanol-fueled> no beer until much later tonight.
[22:06:28] <mythterj> How can anyone get work done without beer?!
[22:06:29] <ciri> how how brown cow
[22:13:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Bleh.
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[22:37:55] <crutchy> <exec> *** score 5 comment: bob_super [1357] Learn from the magicians, would you? - Spies Would Need SUPER POWERS to Tap Undersea Cables. - 963 chars - http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:55] <monopoly> ^ 04SN comment by bob_super (1357)
[22:38:16] <crutchy> looks like a bit of an essay
[22:38:19] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:38:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 809
[22:39:30] <chromas> how does that work, crutchy?
[22:39:31] <ciri> how how brown cow
[22:39:47] <chromas> Does it also alert when a comment gets modded all the way up?
[22:40:01] <chromas> Or was it just modded up before exec got to it?
[22:40:30] * chromas notices it's a different format from regular comments
[22:41:40] <crutchy> parses each comment before deciding what to do with it
[22:42:06] <chromas> so +5 comments are just announced differently
[22:42:26] <crutchy> the 2nd one (just modded up before exec goy to it)
[22:42:47] <crutchy> yup
[22:43:02] <chromas> Needs some ascii bels and stuff
[22:43:21] <chromas> "Ding ding ding! We have a winner!"
[22:43:29] <crutchy> https://github.com
[22:43:36] <crutchy> lol
[22:43:50] <crutchy> maybe a ping-o-death
[22:44:14] <chromas> cool
[22:44:45] <crutchy> hmm not really ping o death, maybe it shoulf be called ping-o-annoyamce :D
[22:44:49] <chromas> can php function have optional parameters?
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[22:44:58] <crutchy> yeah
[22:45:10] <crutchy> same as pascal
[22:45:20] <chromas> could make a function that returns the color \3 + code
[22:45:36] <chromas> then takes background as an optional
[22:46:18] <crutchy> chromas, s/ground/door/
[22:46:18] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> <chromas> then takes backdoor as an optional
[22:46:35] <crutchy> chromas++
[22:46:35] <Bender> karma - chromas: 34
[22:46:37] <chromas> the backdoor is never optional
[22:46:49] <crutchy> manadory
[22:47:08] <crutchy> i'm not even gunna try to ciorrect that
[22:48:17] <JamesNZ> mandatory*
[22:48:20] * JamesNZ obliges
[22:48:22] <crutchy> hmm haven't got any formatting functions in livb
[22:49:10] <crutchy> ~gday chromas, JamesNZ
[22:49:10] <exec> * crutchy pulchritudinously cracks open an anvil of Debian for chromas, JamesNZ
[22:49:21] <chromas> would be nifty to have one that wraps a string in the codes
[22:49:32] <chromas> but then you'd have superfluous end colors
[22:49:36] <crutchy> yeah
[22:49:37] <chromas> just before another color code
[22:49:51] <chromas> ~g'day crutchy, exec, tama, panties
[22:49:52] <exec> * chromas spontaneously blows a tinfoil hat of g'day juice at crutchy, exec, tama, panties
[22:50:10] <chromas> ~g'day JamesNZ too
[22:50:11] <exec> * chromas lagubriously throws a bathtub of milo at JamesNZ too
[22:50:15] <JamesNZ> `gday chromas, crutchy
[22:50:20] <JamesNZ> ~gday chromas, crutchy
[22:50:21] <exec> * JamesNZ spontaneously offers a socket of Soylent Green to chromas, crutchy
[22:50:29] <crutchy> thats ok. moar superluosnessnessityness!
[22:50:47] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Eww, Debian :P
[22:51:05] <chromas> rpm++
[22:51:05] <Bender> karma - rpm: 1
[22:51:13] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[22:51:13] <Bender> karma - fedora: 17
[22:51:18] <chromas> need delta debs
[22:51:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CVE 10K is Almost Here - http://sylnt.us - ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody
[22:51:47] <JamesNZ> Indeed.
[22:51:54] <JamesNZ> presto++
[22:51:54] <Bender> karma - presto: 1
[22:52:50] <chromas> sudo zypper up
[22:52:58] <chromas> sudo unzip her down
[22:53:32] <crutchy> i had a dream last night that some weird beamed a rock into an ocean liner and i was the guy the had to try to put the rope thingys over the jetty poles but the water was too rough, who dreams of that sort of shit?
[22:53:56] <JamesNZ> Australians, evidently :P
[22:54:53] * crutchy wishes he was a new zulender atm cos of what our fucked up leaders are getting us into
[22:55:27] <JamesNZ> What are they getting you into? (I don't watch the news)
[22:55:42] <crutchy> fighting religious nutjobs in mideast
[22:56:09] <crutchy> now there are reports of supposed random beheadings planned in australia
[22:56:26] <crutchy> by isis/isil/is/wtfbbq
[22:56:33] <JamesNZ> Doesn't that kinda make sense? Cut them off at the root and all that.
[22:57:18] <crutchy> what makes sense? cutting our politicians heads off sure does :p
[22:57:52] <JamesNZ> Careful, the NSA might be listening :P
[22:57:57] <crutchy> nobody's gunna beat isil with planes and tanks
[22:58:02] <crutchy> lol yeah prolly
[22:58:20] <crutchy> !loggie-ignore crutchy :D
[22:58:53] <JamesNZ> Well, with what then? They clearly seem to dislike all the 'infidels', so you can't ignore them forever.
[22:59:18] <crutchy> but you can sure rally isil supporters with planes and tanks, which kinda seems like the real objective... moar defense spending!
[22:59:18] <chromas> What happens is we have the nsa collect everything on the internet and use it to seed a markov generator and that's how we get our news
[23:00:08] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[23:00:23] <crutchy> the 'infidels' are kinda acting like infidels... when your homeland is bombed to the stone age for 30 odd years and the antagonists won't fuck off, what would you do?
[23:01:13] <crutchy> /rant. sorry i'm not a fan of the US government
[23:01:20] <JamesNZ> Hand over the folks who crashed planes into buildings in the first place?
[23:02:10] <crutchy> i dunno who they were, and i dunno either way but i don't trust the US government to tell the truth about what happened there
[23:02:11] <JamesNZ> Nothing to be sorry about :)
[23:03:14] <JamesNZ> IIRC Osama admitted responsibility for 9/11.
[23:03:35] <crutchy> that doesn't really mean much
[23:03:53] <crutchy> his family may have been looked after pretty well by the US
[23:04:08] <crutchy> people will do all sorts of things for all sorts of reasons
[23:04:13] <crutchy> and money talks
[23:05:27] <crutchy> i dunno if it was true but there was a conspiracy theory about the only plane leaving the USA after the FAA grounded everyone was for the bin laden family (or something like that)
[23:06:46] <JamesNZ> http://www.snopes.com
[23:06:47] <monopoly> ^ 03snopes.com: Flights of Fancy
[23:08:21] <crutchy> i guess the national commission of whatever it was and the 9/11 commision would say that
[23:08:39] <crutchy> holds no more water than the orginal claim though
[23:09:09] <crutchy> i can refute the refute too
[23:09:44] <crutchy> there wasn't any evidence that there were any flights, but there also wasn't any evidence that there weren't any flights
[23:09:45] <JamesNZ> Well, you could say that about almost every conspiracy theory refutation :)
[23:09:51] <crutchy> true
[23:10:04] <crutchy> without physical evidence anyone can say anything
[23:10:11] <crutchy> and again, money talks
[23:10:13] * JamesNZ sticks to occams razor
[23:10:42] <crutchy> to you believe the people paid for by those implicated in the original claim?
[23:10:51] <ar> my current xrandr: http://dpaste.com
[23:10:52] <monopoly> ^ 03dpaste: 2P2YWEX ( Location )
[23:11:20] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Did the Bin Laden family pay the 9/11 commission?
[23:11:21] * chromas forgot about xrandr
[23:11:47] <crutchy> i dunno. i assume they are bought and paid for by the US government
[23:12:48] <crutchy> but the bin laden family might have their finglers in the government pie, just like the saudis surely do
[23:12:52] <JamesNZ> Me too. So, yeah, I believe the people who probably had nothing to do with the implicated party.
[23:13:15] <JamesNZ> "finglers" :D
[23:13:38] <JamesNZ> Meh, I'd need some proof before I believe that.
[23:14:24] <crutchy> nod nod. i don't know what to believe about that fateful day, but i sure as hell don't believe the official storry just because its called "the official story"
[23:15:00] <JamesNZ> Aye.
[23:16:10] <crutchy> i've had more of an interest in the attacks themselves. does seem weird that there doesn't appear to be much (if any) plane wreckage at the pentagon, and the way the buildings in NY fell looks wrong
[23:16:55] <crutchy> planes just don't desintigrate on impact, with anything
[23:18:01] <JamesNZ> WRT the Pentagon, apparently there was a lot of wreckage but it was quite scattered.
[23:18:37] <crutchy> unfortunately i've been unable to find any photos showing it :/
[23:19:09] <JamesNZ> Interestingly enough though, the plane apparently hit the Pentagon in literally the strongest and newest part of the entire building.
[23:19:12] <crutchy> not a tail section sticking out of the building, or an engine
[23:19:43] <crutchy> yeah i read that too
[23:19:56] <crutchy> not even a crumpled fuselage. just a hole
[23:20:42] <crutchy> doesn't lend much credibility to the official story when the photos don't line up with it
[23:21:13] <JamesNZ> Well, there were witnesses.
[23:21:15] <chromas> crutchy: that was the giver
[23:21:25] <chromas> the pentagon was the goatse
[23:21:28] <crutchy> lol
[23:22:14] <crutchy> i can't help but wonder whether the giver was some sort of rocket like the 'conspiracy nuts' claim
[23:22:54] <crutchy> has more similarities with rocket attack sites in the mid east
[23:22:58] <JamesNZ> It's hard to disguise a rocket as a passenger aircraft :P
[23:23:39] <crutchy> yeah
[23:24:13] <crutchy> doesn't seem to be much photos that show it was a passenger aircraft though
[23:24:51] <crutchy> just a dodgy security tape or something
[23:24:57] <JamesNZ> I think that's because it was going so fast. And people didn't have iPhones back then :P Plenty of witnesses anyway.
[23:25:26] <JamesNZ> Apparently the fires were so hot that the debris started melting.
[23:26:56] <crutchy> have you ever heard of any sort of plane crash without a debris field? airliners don't go *that* fast
[23:27:54] <crutchy> anyway. not saying for sure that it wasn't a plane cos i really don't know. i'm just making shit up. but it does seem fishy
[23:28:05] <JamesNZ> There was a debris field, there's a photo of it on wikipedia.
[23:28:25] <crutchy> is there!?
[23:28:38] <crutchy> feck i have been looking for photos and didn't find it
[23:28:53] <JamesNZ> http://en.wikipedia.org
[23:28:54] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03American Airlines Flight 77: American Airlines Flight 77 was a scheduled domestic passenger flight that was hijacked by five men affiliated to al-Qaeda on September 11, 2001, as part of the September 11 attacks. They deliberately crashed it into the Pentagon in Arli...
[23:29:43] <crutchy> hmm yeah i have seen that one
[23:29:45] <JamesNZ> Apparently parts were found 90 meters into the building, so it must have penetrated a fair amount.
[23:30:24] <crutchy> possibly
[23:32:23] <JamesNZ> Hmm, that article says that the front of the fuselage disintegrated on impact.
[23:32:56] <crutchy> i think the other thing that doesn't help is that there seems to be lots of people that dont buy it. kinda like the JFK thing
[23:33:18] <crutchy> when lots of people start questioning, it makes me start questioning
[23:33:48] <JamesNZ> Yeah.
[23:34:53] * chromas questions your questioning
[23:34:57] <JamesNZ> If only the NSA would focus on terrorist groups instead of the whole world :P
[23:36:02] <crutchy> kind of a bummer the photo on wikipedia is released by the government and not a member of the public. would have been more believable then
[23:36:42] <crutchy> photoshop is an amazing tool, and it kinda doesn't help that the part shown appears small enough to be carried by a person
[23:37:15] <crutchy> there should really be a tail section somewhere
[23:37:43] <crutchy> the tail was protected from the impact by a 100+ft crumple zone
[23:37:48] <JamesNZ> I wouldn't expect big pieces to be scattered so far away, momentum and all that.
[23:38:07] <crutchy> i expected to see the tail section in the hole
[23:38:23] <chromas> !grab crutchy
[23:38:23] <Bender> Added quote 247
[23:38:28] <crutchy> lol
[23:38:36] <JamesNZ> :P
[23:40:04] <JamesNZ> On a side note, why are security cameras so crappy?
[23:41:04] <swiss> because people don't want to pay $800 per camera
[23:42:15] <JamesNZ> Even my phone takes better video, it didn't cost $800.
[23:42:18] <JamesNZ> and it*
[23:42:48] <chromas> proprietary_video_formats++
[23:42:48] <Bender> karma - proprietary_video_formats: 1
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