#Soylent | Logs for 2014-09-16
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[00:01:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Graphene/Boron Nitride Superlattice Semiconductor - Possible Energy Efficiencies as a Result - http://sylnt.us - series-of-tubes
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[00:46:51] <chromas> Who pulled the wrong cable out of the switch?
[00:47:10] * chromas points thumbs at chest
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[00:47:14] <SpallsHurgenson> "Wrong" is so subjective
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[00:49:40] <chromas> That is so true
[00:49:45] * chromas blames the bots
[00:52:13] <SpallsHurgenson> especially the ugly ones!
[00:53:10] * monopoly hangs head in shame
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[01:04:15] <SpallsHurgenson> I have decided time travel is only possibly by watching lots of movies about time travel... I just need to find the right combination of flicks!
[01:04:57] <chromas> Need to get your static warp field up to 88mph
[01:05:34] <chromas> or whatever speed turns on all the 7-segment LEDs
[01:05:40] <SpallsHurgenson> ooh, Star Trek IV, I almost forgot about that one!
[01:05:47] <chromas> 8888
[01:05:50] <JamesNZ> And you'll need 1.21 gigawatts.
[01:06:00] <chromas> JamesNZ: s/g/j/
[01:06:05] <SpallsHurgenson> not gigawatts, jigawatts!
[01:06:14] <SpallsHurgenson> completely different type of wattage :)
[01:06:33] <JamesNZ> Really?
[01:06:48] * JamesNZ always thought it was gigawatts
[01:07:04] <SpallsHurgenson> and that's why you have never travelled backwards through time :)
[01:07:11] <JamesNZ> Oh, wait, I get it now -_-
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[01:08:16] <SpallsHurgenson> I hope so, 'cause it was too lame a joke to actually explain :)
[01:08:38] <JamesNZ> :P
[01:25:32] <SpallsHurgenson> bad guys keep shooting at me; don't they know how much that hurts?
[01:29:32] <SpallsHurgenson> oh sure, I have magical bandaids to close the wounds, but that doesn't take away the EMOTIONAL pain
[01:34:09] * SpallsHurgenson cries to the enemy AI, "Why won't you let me be your friend?" and then opens up with a machine gun
[01:49:26] <Popeidol> more games should include a 'try and be friends' button
[01:50:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Science, Atheism, and Captain Kirk - http://sylnt.us - green-skinned-dancing-metaphors
[01:50:39] <Popeidol> which has a very low chance of success, but if it works you get to go out for a coffee and chat
[01:51:04] * SpallsHurgenson imagines trying to split the bill with a cyberdemon
[01:51:29] <Popeidol> it'd make games like modern warfare a lot more fun
[01:55:02] <SpallsHurgenson> that wouldn't take much :)
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[03:04:08] <JamesNZ> lamb_shanks++
[03:04:08] <Bender> karma - lamb_shanks: 3
[03:04:16] <JamesNZ> Having one of those for dinner tonight :D
[03:10:08] <Konomi> http://instagram.com
[03:10:09] <monopoly> ^ 03rafaelmantesso's Profile Instagram
[03:10:11] <Konomi> amusing hehe
[03:21:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why it Pays to Live Near Creative People—up to a Point - http://sylnt.us - Tuesday-night-music-club
[03:39:54] <Konomi> I like how my nervous leg finds the only loose floor board in my room
[03:44:48] <chromas> Did it find the secret hidden below?
[04:59:27] <SirFinkus> juggs I found some ram, and I have a friend with a 9600, the g5 should be up and running soon
[05:05:32] <NCommander> Shit
[05:08:53] <NCommander> Well, that was idiotic
[05:22:31] <SirFinkus> what did you do dear leader?
[05:45:34] <idetuxs> Hi
[05:49:27] * idetuxs bow down before our overlord
[05:51:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Autodesk Buys Game Engine Maker Bitsquid - http://sylnt.us - manual-desk
[06:10:03] <chromas> autodesk--
[06:10:03] <Bender> karma - autodesk: -3
[06:10:40] <JamesNZ> autodesk--
[06:10:40] <Bender> karma - autodesk: -4
[06:10:58] <chromas> slash needs an undo() apparently
[06:11:14] <JamesNZ> thefoundry++
[06:11:14] <Bender> karma - thefoundry: 1
[06:11:26] <chromas> thefoundry++
[06:11:26] <Bender> karma - thefoundry: 2
[06:11:32] <chromas> sonicfoundry++ too
[06:11:32] <Bender> karma - sonicfoundry: 1
[06:11:53] <JamesNZ> Their products are so easy to install on linux <3
[06:12:20] <JamesNZ> Unlike, *ahem*, a certain other company.
[06:16:02] <chromas> NewTek needs to spawn more children
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[07:10:56] <crutchy> autodesk inventor is a decent product, but not for the price
[07:11:17] <chromas> Well, I haven't seen a good bot flooding in awhile
[07:11:34] <crutchy> i got kicked for flooding just last night
[07:11:39] <crutchy> nfi how or what i did
[07:12:01] <crutchy> exec stayed connected
[07:12:06] <chromas> Yeah but did they create it or bought from some company who decided to make web widgets or something?
[07:12:15] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, pong
[07:12:32] <crutchy> probably stole it
[07:12:36] <crutchy> autodesk--
[07:12:36] <Bender> karma - autodesk: -5
[07:12:43] <crutchy> inventor++
[07:12:43] <Bender> karma - inventor: 1
[07:13:32] <crutchy> php++
[07:13:32] <Bender> karma - php: 3
[07:13:57] <crutchy> half the comps that i do at work depend on php
[07:14:26] <chromas> php is better than autodesk.
[07:15:18] <swiss> blech php
[07:15:27] <crutchy> inventor has a fea module, but its shit compared to the one i use
[07:16:06] <crutchy> hhvm++
[07:16:06] <Bender> karma - hhvm: 1
[07:19:07] <crutchy> hhvm_&_nginx++
[07:19:19] <crutchy> hmm mustn't like &
[07:20:33] <chromas> Bender: s/h/o/g
[07:20:33] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <Bender> karma - oovm: 1
[07:20:47] <chromas> Annoyed grunt
[07:20:51] <chromas> L
[07:27:18] <chromas> http://www.phoronix.com
[07:27:19] <monopoly> ^ 03[Phoronix] SUSE Gets Bought Out Again
[07:32:16] <crutchy> does anyone still use suse?
[07:32:38] <crutchy> i thought after microsoft/attachmate got involved it would have died a fiery death
[07:36:15] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[07:36:15] <Bender> karma - fedora: 13
[07:43:34] <crutchy> debian++
[07:43:34] <Bender> karma - debian: 23
[07:49:34] <Popeidol> I heard somebody say they liked suse in 2007
[07:50:09] <Popeidol> maybe I should look him up and see if he still feels the same
[08:01:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Chinese Facial Recognition Software Claims 99.8 Percent Accuracy - http://sylnt.us - throw-away-your-makeup-and-forget-that-diet
[08:04:53] <crutchy> it recognises if you've had a facial... or work in the pr0nz industry :p
[08:25:11] <crutchy> coffee++
[08:25:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 791
[09:50:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Formula E Motor Racing Championship Started this Weekend - http://sylnt.us - do-they-still-make-that-neeeeeyung-sound?
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[11:42:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - James Boyle's <em>The Public Domain: Enclosing the Commons of the Mind</em> - http://sylnt.us - preparing-for-talk-like-a-pirate-day?
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[12:33:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:33:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 792
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[12:34:44] <juggs> Morning TheMightyBraggard!
[12:35:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> or something resembling it anyway, yeah
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[12:43:10] <Lagg> Why do I keep getting random highlights from this channel and this channel only
[12:43:36] <Lagg> Whenever I get highlights elsewhere they usually make sense. But here I gett them from weird stuff. Maybe someone is triggering my gigantic regexp hax
[12:44:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> Lagg, dunno. you have something besides your nick getting highlighted?
[12:46:01] <lentilSoup> Remove "and", "that", and "the" from your list. It helps.
[12:47:45] <Lagg> TheMightyBuzzard: Oh I definitely do, it's just a matter of figuring out which is doing it. Might need to make the regexp be more restrictive with whitespace
[12:48:39] <Lagg> I know that one of them is happening because people say things like "haggle" and my other name is agg, that happened above in fact but I also got one before that with nothing that I'm highlighting :/
[12:48:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. i get pinged any time someone says dev and several shortenings of my name but that's worth it overall.
[12:49:41] <Lagg> Maybe I should just make it an even bigger hack and treat my nicks like an email address
[12:50:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeesh. woke up 2.5 hours late. prolly not going to be worth a damn today.
[12:50:49] <Lagg> Heh, I see I'm not the only one whose day is screwed when they sleep too long
[12:51:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, it's like having a brain made of dirty socks.
[12:52:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus my best coding hours are 3/4 over already.
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[12:52:43] <Lagg> People look at me like I'm crazy when I say that but they just don't get us hyper-schedule-sensitive types.
[12:54:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i used to not then i started getting up the same time every day and it totally throws me off if i don't, even on weekends.
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[13:01:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Downvoting Considered Harmful - Boing Boing Article with Several Links - http://sylnt.us - mod-me-up!
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[13:04:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll work on the accepted but not yet published list showing on the submissions list issue if i can clear some of the cobwebs out of my head
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[13:12:48] <TK> coffee++
[13:12:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 793
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[13:13:31] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[13:13:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 794
[13:13:34] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[13:13:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 795
[13:13:40] <Blackmoore> mornin
[13:17:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:17:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 796
[13:20:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Blackmoore
[13:39:36] <Blackmoore> morning TMB anything going on?
[13:40:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> working on getting accepted but not yet published stories to show on the submissions list
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[13:40:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> going sloooow cause i got a late start on the day.
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[13:44:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> above or below the submissions list, you think?
[13:45:51] <juggs> I'd vote for above.
[13:47:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> should probably put it in a pretty box like stories and the other list then.
[13:49:16] <juggs> Oh mebbe just add a status column to the submissions list that shows either Accepted or Pending (or something to that effect)
[13:49:17] <Blackmoore> that would be good.
[13:49:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> have to write code to figure out by date what stories are set to be published in the future don't know any shortcuts around that
[13:49:17] <LaminatorX> I would prefer it below, or on another page entirely. I definitely don't want to have to scroll past already posted stories when looking for ones to post.
[13:49:51] <Blackmoore> LaminatorX: how about color coding?
[13:50:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> LaminatorX, i was actually going to skip rendering it for admins. you already have a better interface for them.
[13:50:48] <LaminatorX> If it doesn't change the admin interface then I have no real opinion.
[13:52:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, strangely, i really have very little idea how to differentiate those. the only way i know to tell is the pubdate.
[13:52:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> not sure how the whole signoffs thing works.
[13:53:14] <juggs> makes two of us
[13:54:03] <LaminatorX> Once a story is posted, it shows as red in the stories list (or yellow to whomever posted it). Once a second editor updates it as well, it shows as green.
[13:54:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh, good to know. least now i know where to look for relevant code.
[13:59:47] <Lagg> Welp, downmod story turned into sarcastic downmods. Should have seen that coming http://soylentnews.org
[13:59:48] <monopoly> ^ 04SN comment by Lagg (105)
[14:00:10] <Lagg> Accidentally linked to my own comment but the whole thread is pretty much that
[14:03:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'all good, i got mod points
[14:04:29] <Lagg> Though I appreciate the gesture it's probably going to be reverted like all the other posts are by people thinking they're funny
[14:04:49] <LaminatorX> I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of karma scores cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.
[14:05:10] <Lagg> Which is amusing because in doing that they're giving a reason to do away with downmodding entirely by downmodding a post defending downmodding.
[14:06:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> we need a list in like vars or something that bans a uid from getting mod points ever again.
[14:06:28] <Lagg> I think that the higher allocation but retaining the +5 cap and making the sorting algorithm give more priority to most recently upmodded posts thing can work if it we were to remove downmods
[14:07:05] <Lagg> That's the only critical part really, both stopping people from mobbing like they do on reddit and giving posts hundreds of points but also making it to where 8 +5s can still have priority
[14:07:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, i just do oldest first, improved threaded, no reparent, no hiding.
[14:08:21] <Lagg> {Highest modded, improved threaded} > *
[14:09:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> more democratic my way. one chucklehead, one vote.
[14:09:18] <Lagg> I liked NCommander's (or whoever it was, sorry if I forgot) idea of just hiding the post that someone downmods from themselves
[14:09:37] <Lagg> Gives them that "hah. I got him" feeling without actually damaging discussion
[14:09:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> be tricky but could be done.
[14:09:40] <ciri> me too, smoke time! TheMightyBuzzard
[14:10:26] <Lagg> Also TheMightyBuzzard can you PM me the port that you have the httpd listening on. I forgot
[14:10:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> 80
[14:10:48] <Lagg> Oh, is it the same domain as the sshd?
[14:11:03] <NCommander> Lagg, 2600
[14:11:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, haven't gotten anything done yet though
[14:11:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> still writing the logic
[14:11:21] * NCommander shouldn't be awake but is
[14:11:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, bossman
[14:11:40] * NCommander needs to do SN shit
[14:11:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's what, six am there?
[14:11:53] <NCommander> Can't sleep
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[14:12:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, mechanicjay
[14:12:02] <Lagg> Hrm, yep that's it. Don't know why I didn't think to just try the standard port :/
[14:12:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> Lagg, did some monkeying with ssh and such and set up another vm entirely for others to use.
[14:13:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> lemme look at my iptables n i'll get you the ports
[14:13:44] <Blackmoore> mornin NCommander
[14:13:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> 3333 ssh, 8080 httpd
[14:14:05] <NCommander> Personally, I dislike moving the SSH port
[14:14:07] <NCommander> causes too much pain
[14:14:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i got tired of seeing so many failed login attempts for root though.
[14:15:56] <Lagg> Try sshguard, I use it for the server running lagg.me and optf2.com among other things and it works good.
[14:16:26] <mechanicjay> Morning, TMB
[14:16:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> too much trouble for a vm but i might for my normal sshd
[14:17:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> mechanicjay, you get that email about the aliases yesterday?
[14:19:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> i have this irrational paranoia of typos on email addresses.
[14:19:49] <mechanicjay> yep, just got to it this morning, should be all set now.
[14:20:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> outstandin.
[14:27:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> i forgot how much fun working with DateTime and timezones was.
[14:28:41] <mechanicjay> TheMightyBuzzard: Anytime I work with that stuff, I feel like a complete idiot. It just takes 2x the brain power to keep it all straight....darn 4th dimension.
[14:29:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> especially when slash can be configured to use a different timezone than either the system or UTC.
[14:35:41] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: slash has its own timezone engine, so you need to use that if you are doing timezone stuff.
[14:36:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. in the process of learning it.
[14:38:13] <paulej72> it’s a big steaming pile of shit, but it is what we got
[14:39:12] <paulej72> any off by 1 hour errors are due to the tzdata being old and out of date.
[14:40:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Officially Retreats from U2 Album Fiasco - http://sylnt.us - push-media
[14:44:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't think i'm actually going to have to use it though.
[14:44:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> not looking to display when the pubdate is in the user's timezone, just find newer than ->now stories.
[14:53:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... $story->{is_future} could be handy...
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[15:08:47] <crutchy> ~queue
[15:08:48] <crutchy> ~weather
[15:08:49] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC, Australia - currrently 11°C, overcast, wind NW at 19 km/h, humidity 99% - Wednesday rain (12°C, 4°C), Thursday chance of rain (13°C, 4°C), Friday partly cloudy (14°C, 4°C), Saturday partly cloudy (15°C, 2°C) - source: Google
[15:08:50] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 22 - http://sylnt.us
[15:09:40] <crutchy> coffee++
[15:09:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 797
[15:13:58] <crutchy> new_google_maps--
[15:13:58] <Bender> karma - new_google_maps: -1
[15:14:24] <crutchy> if they don't fix ima gunna hafta use bing :(
[15:15:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[15:15:00] <Bender> karma - coffee: 798
[15:15:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, crutchy
[15:15:31] <crutchy> mornin
[15:15:36] <crutchy> ~time
[15:15:37] <exec> Wednesday, 17 September 2014 @ 1:15 am GMT+10 - Traralgon VIC, Australia
[15:15:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin for both of us then i spose
[15:15:57] <crutchy> weird
[15:17:10] <crutchy> was reading about your state on wikipedia
[15:17:48] <crutchy> the panhandle thingy got me curious
[15:22:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> bout how?
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[15:29:59] <crutchy> just how it came about
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[15:31:46] <crutchy> aussie states are fairly large with blocky borders. cept for vic/nsw that runs along murray river
[15:32:19] <crutchy> usa has some interesting state borders
[15:33:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, they're kinda funky. no idea how both us and texas got panhandles
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[15:35:19] <lentilSoup> Y'all don't mess with Texas and y'all can't hold a pan without a handle. It's in the Texas Constitution.
[15:35:35] <crutchy> lol
[15:36:50] <crutchy> in straya we cook our grub in dropbear skins mate :p
[15:38:36] <Blackmoore> Well you got me beat, I onlyhad to cook mac n cheese in an electric coffee pot
[15:39:26] <crutchy> thats a good idea :p
[15:39:56] <lentilSoup> Little known fact, the dropbear is a distant relative of the North American jackalope.
[15:40:53] <lentilSoup> Varmints all the same, I tell ya.
[15:41:31] <crutchy> i think australia is known for billy tea (fiik really). never used a billy myself but have used a bigger cast iron camping stive that you bury in a fire
[15:41:41] <TK> drop bears have antlers now?
[15:41:49] <crutchy> them make really good slow cookers
[15:43:39] <lentilSoup> They lost them antlers when Australia was officially admitted to the commonwealth,
[15:43:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> mechanicjay, still around and have a moment to do some more email stuff?
[15:44:01] <lentilSoup> That's how I remember it, anyway.
[15:44:47] <crutchy> http://i6.photobucket.com
[15:45:13] <TK> mother of god
[15:46:21] <lentilSoup> See, them fangs and the jackalope's antlers are homologous structures.
[15:49:57] <lentilSoup> Why is the default maxmium filter set at +4?
[15:56:39] <crutchy> its prolly the NSA's doings
[15:58:01] <Blackmoore> Dropbear is NOT good eatin.
[15:58:32] <crutchy> firefox nightly has some cool features, but its bog slow compared to old iceweasel, and google maps is pretty much unusable on it :/
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[16:01:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - WikiLeaks Releases German Surveillance Malware - http://sylnt.us - free-information
[16:01:18] <lentilSoup> Google Maps Classic or Googlr Maps Beta?
[16:01:31] <lentilSoup> Because the latter pretty much sucks everywhere.
[16:05:34] <crutchy> prolly beta
[16:05:51] <crutchy> fuck_beta++
[16:05:51] <Bender> karma - fuck_beta: 2
[16:11:34] <Blackmoore> welp, back to paper for me.
[16:17:57] <crutchy> might try sleeping again
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[17:16:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, anyone want to give a look at this and see what you think? http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[17:16:53] <monopoly> ^ 03Dev.SN Submissions
[17:19:07] <juggs> Looks OK to me. Although it would be even nicer if the columns lined up between the Subs and Pending list :D Oooh - same date/time format on the two would be good too :D
[17:19:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, need someone who's actually good with hmtl to do that.
[17:22:46] * TheMightyBuzzard checks something
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[17:32:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> gave up on the sleeping?
[17:37:24] <Blackmoore> TheMightyBuzzard: looks good to me.
[17:37:49] <Blackmoore> i'll agree about the date time format.
[17:38:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, they come from completely different sources though so it's gonna be a pita
[17:39:09] <Blackmoore> sorry..
[17:40:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> such are the trials of me
[17:43:05] * juggs pops another go pill in TheMightyBuzzard - that should do it
[17:43:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually pondering having a nap and monkeying with it tomorrow
[17:44:01] <juggs> sounds like a good plan
[17:44:08] * juggs toddles off to find something edible
[17:45:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg. i've no idea how to match them up in width.
[17:58:33] <Blackmoore> well, i can think of an ugly kludge (set first 2 columns to set width)
[18:07:31] <Blackmoore> but i'm not saying that's the right way to do it. I know enough html and css that i know what you are dealing with. and i'd say f it too.
[18:11:29] <lentilSoup> F B
[18:14:52] <Azrael> if they are different tables, hard to do without defining the widths... but you could use jquery on 2nd table to find the widths of first table and set them that way
[18:36:03] <juggs> been ages since I messed with tables, but if both tables are displayed at the same overall is it possible to set the column widths as a percentage
[18:36:09] <juggs> overall width*
[18:36:46] <juggs> of course that is likely being set from the css so would need some care :D
[18:41:02] <juggs> ahh yes <td width="nn%"> - but yah needs doing from the stylesheet not inline.
[18:47:38] <Blackmoore> mm.. stylesheets.. I don't expect shash is gonna make that easy.
[18:47:44] <ar> https://github.com
[18:47:45] <monopoly> ^ 03keedreams/keen · GitHub
[18:48:42] <paulej72> I am not seeing the two tables. is MB link correct?
[18:48:54] <juggs> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[18:48:55] <monopoly> ^ 03Dev.SN Submissions
[18:49:10] <juggs> Should be a Submissions table and a Pending table beneath
[18:49:22] <paulej72> I see no pending table
[18:49:24] <juggs> Pending Stories*
[18:49:44] <juggs> definitely there for me
[18:50:15] <juggs> no logged in - if that makes any odds
[18:50:39] <lentilSoup> I got a pogo stick because of Commander Keen. He rules.
[18:50:42] <paulej72> yes it does.
[18:50:55] <juggs> ~shrug~ now I really must find something to eat, stomach thinks my throat's been cut
[18:50:57] <paulej72> logged in does ont show the pending stories
[18:53:17] <paulej72> problem with the subs list is that is has dual role. Admins have more fields on this table than non admins. this is probably what is making the formatting different.
[18:54:14] <Blackmoore> i have to restart this system. i'll be back
[18:54:32] <juggs> 6 columns in upper table, 4 in lower also probably not helping. I don't think it's critical tbh.
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[20:24:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> Can we get and update to the NASA to Announce Crew Transport Plan for ISS? http://blogs.nasa.gov
[20:24:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> (my nick here is the same as my SN username (so you can credit me if you so desire))
[20:27:00] <Blackmoore> let me check editorial if anyone is about
[20:34:38] <Blackmoore> ah crickets.
[20:34:56] <Blackmoore> I dont have editorial privledges yet.
[20:51:49] <lentilSoup> How many ritualistic murders stand between you and those privileges?
[20:51:49] <ciri> doing great here
[21:00:58] <Landon> ok, this is going to be an odd question
[21:01:03] <Landon> but has anyone here been to kathmandu?
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[21:03:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, there's you an unsuspecting editor
[21:06:46] <Woods> Yo
[21:08:17] <Woods> Am I going to get harangued for something?
[21:09:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, andy had a typo or something
[21:14:00] <Blackmoore> lentilSoup: I still have to provide a suitible sacrifice.
[21:14:12] <Blackmoore> Woods: [16:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> Can we get and update to the NASA to Announce Crew Transport Plan for ISS? http://blogs.nasa.gov
[21:14:46] <Blackmoore> Landon: no, but I real really wanted to
[21:15:48] <lentilSoup> Blackmoore: That can be arranged.
[21:15:55] <Woods> Ohh, nice. I will add it in there, good catch.
[21:16:10] <Blackmoore> thank AndyTheAbsurd for catching that
[21:16:38] <Landon> Blackmoore: everest base camp trek also, maybe?
[21:16:56] <Blackmoore> lentilSoup: oh aye.. but you wouldnt belive the lack of virgins around here.
[21:17:59] <lentilSoup> Who said they had to be virgins? That's an old wives tale.
[21:18:00] <Blackmoore> Landon: i was refencing a song, I dont expect I'd make it up the mountain; but i sure would love to get to see katmandu.
[21:18:19] <Landon> oh :P
[21:18:45] <Landon> I must get this thing done before having kids...
[21:18:55] <Landon> currently trying to figure out the minutae
[21:19:01] <Landon> minutiae
[21:19:22] <Blackmoore> I take that you climb?
[21:20:02] <Landon> nope
[21:20:07] <Landon> it's primarily a hiking trek up to base camp
[21:20:19] <Landon> ~5 miles/day on well established paths
[21:20:33] <Landon> then we turn around and say "been there, done that"
[21:20:55] <Landon> my wife and I are taking my dad as a christmas present
[21:21:00] <Landon> planned ~2016
[21:21:09] <Landon> (accumulating almost a month of vacation time is hard :\)
[21:23:26] <Blackmoore> ok that should be pretty good then. (and none of that life endangering stuff)
[21:23:41] <Landon> that's WAY out of my price range :)
[21:24:03] <Landon> you need the special permit to start up towards everest itself, which is in the tens of thousands USD
[21:24:26] <Landon> (that and there's no way in hell I'd get past the "first" area, the icefall"
[21:24:28] <Landon> )
[21:24:41] <Landon> http://upload.wikimedia.org
[21:24:49] <Blackmoore> lentilSoup: I'm sorry; but I'm not going to waste a perfectly good slut. ba'al can have the virgins
[21:25:14] <Blackmoore> oh wow.
[21:25:16] <lentilSoup> It's not binary, you know.
[21:26:59] <Blackmoore> yeah yeah. i fronted the shop for a few centuries. I know the drill. frankly by the end I would have accepted a nice barbequed goat; or a good steer for dinner
[21:27:37] <Blackmoore> Landon: that's pretty.. my wife would kill me but I'd do that.
[21:28:37] <Landon> hah :)
[21:32:53] <Landon> the accomodation for my wife was that after we do this, we need to do something internationally with her family
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[21:33:13] <Landon> that will be a much simpler ordeal though, we'ree planning on tackling the west highland way in scotland
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[21:42:31] <Blackmoore> My wife wants to do the walking tour of Ireland.
[21:42:39] <Blackmoore> it sounds like fun
[21:42:56] <Blackmoore> should be plenty of whiskey
[21:51:33] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:51:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 799
[21:51:36] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:51:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 800
[21:52:25] <juggs> g'day critchy
[21:52:33] <crutchy> hi juggs
[21:52:33] <ciri> hi there crutchy
[21:52:44] <crutchy> hi ciri
[21:52:45] <ciri> yeah, yeah hi HI crutchy
[21:52:59] <crutchy> ~weather
[21:53:29] <crutchy> stupid bot pinged out
[21:53:42] <crutchy> closed my lappy lid didn't i
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[21:58:06] <crutchy> wrong x button :/
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[21:59:40] <juggs> more coffee required
[22:00:14] <crutchy> only on my first for the day atm so yeah prolly
[22:00:17] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:00:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 801
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[22:01:33] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[22:01:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 802
[22:02:30] <crutchy> bacon++ just cos it was the original karma whore :p
[22:02:30] <Bender> karma - bacon: 253
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[22:04:58] <crutchy> hmm just picked up something weird in the comment feed
[22:05:00] <crutchy> <exec> *** new comment: Pino P [4721] (Score:1) Pleading the fifth: eminent domain - James Boyle's <em>The Public Domain: Enclosing the Commons of the Mind</em> - http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:01] <monopoly> ^ 04SN comment by Pino P (4721)
[22:05:01] <monopoly> ^ 04SN comment by PizzaRollPlinkett (4512)
[22:05:29] <crutchy> wtf is <em>? or am i just out of touch with html?
[22:06:00] <crutchy> ah its bold
[22:06:01] <juggs> it's a type of dash or hypen isn't it? em dash vs. en dash
[22:06:15] <crutchy> 'em'phasis
[22:06:22] <crutchy> http://www.w3schools.com
[22:07:03] <crutchy> didn't think html tags would appear in titles
[22:07:18] <crutchy> guess i should add a strip_tags to that
[22:08:30] <juggs> blech - so practically what is the difference between <b> and <em> then? /me goes off to investigate
[22:09:42] <juggs> hmm... "According to the HTML 5 specification, the <b> tag should be used as a LAST resort when no other tag is more appropriate.". fair enough.
[22:10:37] <crutchy> i generally use css
[22:10:46] <crutchy> font-weight
[22:12:04] <Blackmoore> yeah <em> is OLD html.
[22:12:10] <Blackmoore> like 2.0
[22:12:44] <juggs> <i>talic and <em>phasized look the same to me in firefox ~shrug~
[22:13:10] <crutchy> ah maybe that's what they mean by emphasis
[22:13:16] * crutchy assumed bold
[22:13:18] <juggs> as do strong and bold
[22:13:50] <crutchy> comment feed just strips them all out now :p
[22:14:05] <juggs> good stuff
[22:15:09] <crutchy> off to workipoos. catch yas later
[22:15:10] <Blackmoore> HTML needs an Old SPice tag..
[22:15:27] <Blackmoore> later crutchy
[22:16:51] <juggs> it's had a good innings
[22:27:44] <Blackmoore> and out.
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[23:35:57] <SpallsHurgenson> "My voice is my passport; verify me"
[23:38:02] <juggs> voice print not recognised. Preparing to vacate airlock. Stand by.
[23:39:10] <SpallsHurgenson> breathing is overrated anyway
[23:42:23] <SpallsHurgenson> heh, http://boingboing.net
[23:43:10] <SpallsHurgenson> do most websites make unpopular (downvoted) posts less visible, like slash and soy do?
[23:44:03] <juggs> Dunno - I was read at -1 anyway.
[23:44:05] <SpallsHurgenson> because I'd say on slashcode sites, the point of moderation is not to reward (or punish) the writer, but to hide crap posts
[23:46:21] <_NSAKEY> Exactly, SpallsHurgenson.
[23:46:37] <_NSAKEY> Sites like reddit allow downvoting of threads.
[23:47:11] <_NSAKEY> The alternative for slashcode sites is a bit heavy-handed (Blocking stories posted by editors).
[23:47:48] <_NSAKEY> That feature was the only reason I made a Slashdot account (One word: kdawson).
[23:48:03] * SpallsHurgenson hasn't done reddit in years and years (it made slashdot look technical and mature in comparison)... do they hide downvoted threads/storoies/comments by default?
[23:48:33] <_NSAKEY> SpallsHurgenson: I've never used reddit enough to know the answer to that, but I do know that they have downvoting.
[23:49:34] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but most sites have some sort of up/down-voting these days. It's pointless if its only e-peen points :)
[23:56:27] * SpallsHurgenson only bothers with comments on slashie sites and usenet and ignores it pretty much elsewhere :)
[23:57:45] <SpallsHurgenson> heh, more "let's just put these servers on the net, what could happen? Oh, right." http://threatpost.com