#Soylent | Logs for 2014-08-28

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[23:57:58] <SpallsHurgenson> (what is it with Win8 updates anyway? did they fire their win8-patch-testing team or something? I haven't seen this many buggy patches since the win95 days)
[23:57:19] <SpallsHurgenson> microsoft still can't get it right http://www.zdnet.com
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[23:55:42] <SpallsHurgenson> huh, better than the ads they want to embed into firefox anyway http://boingboing.net
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[23:53:35] <Lagg> Mac users that can figure out how to run perl on OSX are a subset of those 3 users
[23:51:54] <paulej72> what you do not know is I have a extra set of arms, so I can code in Slash while doing other things on the side (what thoes ohter things are, is left as a exercise for the reader)
[23:49:48] <Lagg> paulej72: It's going to be a pretty hard battle between you and the other two mac users for most prolific porn watcher
[23:45:54] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: FYI I use a Mac :P
[23:39:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, and that too
[23:39:08] <monopoly> ^ 03[Phoronix] OS Battle: Linux Takes 1.7% Desktop Marketshare
[23:39:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.phoronix.com
[23:38:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's official, mac users watch the most porn
[23:21:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DOJ: We Found The Lerner Emails, WH: No You Didn't - http://sylnt.us - someone-is-wrong
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[22:45:34] <Lagg> RARGH
[22:45:20] <Lagg> I know because I DO IT WAY TOO FUCKING OFTEN
[22:45:13] <Lagg> crutchy: Not even people who write code to use its API know how to use paypal
[22:20:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[22:12:53] <crutchy> wifey's going to do my subscription next week yay! i have nfi how to use paypal
[22:12:28] <crutchy> cyas later
[22:12:25] <crutchy> gtg to workipoos. almost the weekend
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[22:05:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't think we could get away with a bews++ girlie T
[22:04:36] <crutchy> need a 'SN ...is bewbs!' tshirt
[22:03:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> go for a t-shirt then
[22:03:01] <crutchy> meh fuck it. $20/yr is fuck all. she can "wear" it :p
[22:01:30] <crutchy> ^what the standard reply usually means (less all the ranting)
[22:00:50] <crutchy> if they don't get to eat it or wear it there is no point
[22:00:23] <crutchy> i really wanna subscribe but it will be a hard sell to the minister of finance. we need to bash together a story titled "why wives should allow their husbands to subscribe to SN"
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[21:52:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. coffee is our friend.
[21:51:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Keurig DRM Cracked By Competitors - http://sylnt.us - where's-the-bacon
[21:51:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 702
[21:51:41] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:51:32] <crutchy> coffee will keep me going on this foggy friday morning
[21:51:09] <crutchy> g'day :)
[21:50:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, crutchy
[21:50:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 701
[21:50:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[21:48:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 700
[21:48:07] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[21:43:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 699
[21:43:35] <crutchy> coffee++
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[21:09:15] <chromas> ciri agrees, therefore I'm right; it was funny
[21:08:47] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[21:08:47] <chromas> Lol
[21:08:20] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3BIFFO: Irish slang for a "Big Ignorant Fucker From Offaly" but feel free to substitute you city of choice... It's especially handy when the BIFFO doesn't know you're insulting him (or h...
[21:08:16] <chromas> ~define biffo
[21:06:01] <crutchy> maybe after X back n forths, a comment thread could be classified as a 'great biffo in history' and can be viewable as a linear thread accessible from a new 'great biffos in history' page?
[21:03:13] <chromas> Maybe it affects the friend/foe value after a while it building up disagree points with someone
[21:02:25] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: maybe Disagree hides the post from just the one who marked it so, that way they think they did more than they did
[20:49:13] * Lagg buys subscription
[20:49:07] <Lagg> NCommander: I can't afford this subscription at all.
[20:42:34] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v FunPika] by juggler
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[20:20:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - PACER Deleted Tons Of Public Court Records - http://sylnt.us - open-format-man-to-the-rescue?
[20:09:52] <Bender> todo item 2 added
[20:09:52] <Blackmoore> !todo get more rum
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[19:25:33] <Bender> todo item 1 added
[19:25:33] <Blackmoore> !todo Start drinking
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[19:10:58] <Bender> todo for alberto: 1) expand "Donators page" :p
[19:10:58] <Alberto> !todo
[19:10:50] <Bender> todo item 1 added
[19:10:50] <Alberto> !todo expand "Donators page" :p
[18:51:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Truth We Won’t Admit: Drinking is Healthy - http://sylnt.us - starting-the-weekend-early
[18:46:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[18:45:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> knocking posts that don't further discussion out of view is peachy keen but ones that incite discussion should always be kept viewable.
[18:45:47] <TK> "Sort like reddit", "sort like slashdot"
[18:44:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya think? i was thinking specifically not allowing hiding posts by agree/disagree
[18:43:24] <TK> You'll need more sorting options to go along with it
[18:42:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> we haven't even had a staff meeting about it yet to get into a good argument.
[18:42:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[18:42:19] <TK> or at least until the commenting phase
[18:42:00] <TK> I'll wait for the fully fleshed-out version before passing judgement
[18:41:36] <TK> Well, it's different, I'll give you that
[18:36:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't think so. think it's just going to be a free for all type thing.
[18:35:15] <TK> Does it take a mod point to apply?
[18:32:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> last i checked NC was in lurve with the idea.
[18:31:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> surprisingly, an agree/disagree button separate from moderation.
[18:30:37] <TK> What would become the new +1 Agree -1 disagree?
[18:26:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably, i just see more down side than up
[18:20:41] <TK> A comment would be best, but the ability to knock it down from +5 in addition to the comment has some value
[18:20:00] <TK> I suppose
[18:13:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly though because it's primarily used as agree/disagree right now.
[18:12:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> better to do that with a comment really. creates more discussion and clears things up for those reading as to why it's not as good.
[18:12:30] <TK> But there are arguments in both directions
[18:11:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh right
[18:11:46] <TK> I didn't want to say @Bender
[18:11:38] <TK> Item 2
[18:11:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> @2?
[18:10:04] <TK> @2 How else am I supposed to mod down a +5 informative that misquotes or misrepresents something?
[18:08:42] <Bender> todo for themightybuzzard: 1) get m2 working 2) argue for the death of Overrated and Underrated 3) IDN support 4) utf8mb4 upgrade 5) queued articles on the submissions page discussion 6) discuss allowing extra html formatting tags in comments
[18:08:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo
[18:05:52] <Bender> todo item 17 added
[18:05:52] <mrcoolbp> !todo expand "About" page
[18:05:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think i'll work on a green on black, oldschool VT100 terminal looking theme some today. going to be harder than black icicle was though.
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[18:03:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> it was like bizarro world trying to figure out why they did what they did.
[18:03:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> me either. they halfway added it then specifically went around making sure it wouldn't work.
[18:02:19] <Alberto> dunny why they never added UTF-8 support
[18:01:55] <Alberto> Shame on Original SlashCode developers
[18:01:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, they're nifty and easy to write.
[18:01:35] <Alberto> and the site has themes
[18:01:19] <Alberto> i will be there soon
[18:01:15] <Alberto> ok
[18:00:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Sure but you have to physically go to Australia to make use of it. Tell him I said you could.
[17:59:26] * Alberto has early access to that too?
[17:59:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> we have. it's stored on crutchy's laptop
[17:59:05] <Alberto> paulej72asdka!
[17:58:59] <Alberto> arti!
[17:58:56] <Alberto> crutchy!
[17:58:51] <Alberto> :p
[17:58:50] <Alberto> You need to finish the pr0n section ASAP
[17:58:40] <Alberto> i know
[17:56:59] <mrcoolbp> We're just getting started Alberto
[17:56:50] <mrcoolbp> = )
[17:56:29] <Alberto> Great changes, i love how Soylent is doing!
[17:55:17] <mrcoolbp> thanks buddy
[17:54:12] * Alberto subscribed! :D
[17:54:01] <ciri> rofl
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[17:54:00] <mrcoolbp> lol
[17:53:23] <arti> nah, fish make love in it
[17:52:35] <mrcoolbp> arti: are you gonna jump in the water?
[17:22:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Death Valley's Moving Rocks Mystery Solved - http://sylnt.us - patents-for-procedurally-generated-asset-movement
[17:22:29] <arti> abcnews.go.com/US/surf-newport-beachs-monster-wedge-wave/story?id=25148156
[17:22:10] <arti> like record for the last ~ 15 years
[17:21:55] <arti> :) big surf here
[17:21:33] <mrcoolbp> hey arti
[17:19:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> yo yo, home-skillet
[17:16:57] <arti> greetings gents
[17:14:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya?
[17:10:07] <crutchy> oky doky
[17:09:58] <crutchy> !chan
[17:09:45] <crutchy> !fleet
[17:09:34] <crutchy> !irc
[17:08:59] <Bender> sylnt <url>
[17:08:59] <crutchy> !sylnt
[17:02:14] <Bender> crutchy: Bite my shiny. metal. ass.
[17:02:14] <mrcoolbp> !bite crutchy
[17:01:38] <exec> <mrcoolbp> meh, I'll probably break him
[17:01:37] <mrcoolbp> s/bread/break/
[17:01:30] <mrcoolbp> meh, I'll probably bread him
[17:01:02] <Bender> available plugins: admin, cfg, chan, chatlog, core, fleet, grabquote, ignore, irc, karma, koffie, lod, markov, more, plug, relay, soylentrss, sylnt, todo, twitter, uidchecker, urlinfo, user
[17:01:01] <mrcoolbp> !list
[17:00:58] <mrcoolbp> !reset
[16:59:56] <crutchy> bender needs a reset
[16:59:46] <mrcoolbp> this is not correct
[16:59:29] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5431, owned by paulej72
[16:59:29] <mrcoolbp> !uid
[16:59:25] <mrcoolbp> !UID
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[16:53:23] <prospectacle> See you all later
[16:53:17] <prospectacle> well it's almost three in the morning. I guess I should rest my eyes for a minute
[16:45:20] <prospectacle> I see what u mean
[16:45:16] <prospectacle> ah
[16:41:44] <crutchy> prospectacle, problem is i'm not sure how to recognize if its just a string or an expression
[16:39:29] <crutchy> works if i escape them manually at least
[16:39:16] <exec> <crutchy> pascal
[16:39:15] <crutchy> s/C\+\+/pascal/
[16:38:59] <Bender> karma - c: 26
[16:38:59] <crutchy> C++
[16:31:31] * crutchy isn't qualified to write a sedbot :/
[16:31:00] <crutchy> so not just if there is two consecutive ++'s
[16:30:44] <crutchy> if i do s/C+/pascal it returns pascal++ too
[16:29:24] <paulej72> neither is mine
[16:29:05] <crutchy> paulej72, my regex-fu is too weak to know when to use preg_quote to escape operators
[16:27:20] <crutchy> echo "C++" | sed -e "s/C++/pascal/" returns "pascal"
[16:27:02] <prospectacle> if it's just a string you're replacing and not a complex expression, you could just use str_replace
[16:26:56] <paulej72> got to escape thoes +s
[16:26:43] <prospectacle> makes sense
[16:25:58] <crutchy> i guess maybe something to do with + being a regex operator
[16:25:37] <crutchy> anyone know why preg_replace("/C++/","pascal","C++",1) would return "pascal++" instead of "pascal"?
[16:14:58] <Bender> Also in quotes: 189, 191, 203, 204
[16:14:54] <Bender> Quote 188 - <TheMightyBuzzard> no biggie, just had to decide where to put it.
[16:14:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote TheMightyBuzzard
[16:14:24] <exec> sed enabled for 10#Soylent
[16:14:24] <crutchy> ~sed on
[16:13:18] <crutchy> sedbot disappeared again?
[16:12:16] <Bender> mrcoolbp: Bite my shiny. metal. ass.
[16:12:16] <mrcoolbp> !bite
[16:11:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Subscriptions Live on SoylentNews; Please Support Us - http://sylnt.us - help-us-become-financally-independent
[16:11:17] <crutchy> or some other word that i cant think of at 2am
[16:10:29] <crutchy> lol sleep ransom. nice :D
[16:10:25] <mrcoolbp> Unfortunately, those go on indefinitely crutchy
[16:10:07] <crutchy> what of the committees and subcommittees though?
[16:10:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you make him do something when he wants to go to sleep really bad, apparently he does it very quickly.
[16:09:41] <crutchy> oh my
[16:09:31] <mrcoolbp> last board meeting was like 4.3 minutes
[16:09:18] <mrcoolbp> yes, we injected him with a conciseness remedy
[16:08:58] <crutchy> wait... what!? NCommander's subscription post is too short. is he ok?
[16:08:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> do it, crutchy. burning it is more fun than collecting it.
[16:08:02] <crutchy> and it took me ages to get cos i'm too lazy to submit articles
[16:07:28] <crutchy> cos 50 karma looks so nice i'm scared to lose it
[16:06:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> prospectacle, yeah, my take on it too. i like a good argue to help me flesh out my own opinion.
[16:06:01] <crutchy> re mod bombing: why 90% of the time i post comments as AC
[16:05:42] <mrcoolbp> also, one can purchase one without a paypal account, though the payment still goes through paypal (Select "Pay with a debit or Credit Card" option)
[16:04:49] <mrcoolbp> ^
[16:04:43] <prospectacle> hooray subscriptions are live
[16:04:40] <crutchy> and always just a fraction more expensive than at a shop. brain: "but these are cheaper from the shop... oh but if you buy them now you don't havee to get off your arse and go buy them. oh ok lets buy them now"
[16:04:12] <prospectacle> TheMightyBuzzard, I have posted my essay on your journal entry about mod-bombing. Will be interesting to see what other opinions get posted.
[16:03:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, they're all evil. tempting me with thin mints and whatnot.
[16:03:09] <crutchy> thats just cos he wanted the cookies intact :p
[16:03:08] <nick> there's always half a dozen evil girl scouts somewhere to strike
[16:02:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, was no need for that much observation. just had to notice that our president has not the cajones to order a strike against a half dozen evil girl scouts.
[16:02:16] <crutchy> not that its hard. the USA advertises its war strategy on CNN
[16:01:39] <nick> and decided to beat the west at its own game
[16:01:36] <crutchy> lol
[16:01:32] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard, in my opinion Putin spent the last 15 years or so watching western diplomacy on an international scale
[16:01:30] <Woods> Now am I am hungry, thanks Crutchy. *goes to get a cheeseburger*
[16:01:29] <mrcoolbp> subscriptions go live in 3...2....
[16:01:25] <exec> weather for "ukraine" not found. check spelling or try another nearby location.
[16:00:58] <crutchy> you guys might have cool toys, but russia makes cool toys like america makes cheeseburgers
[16:00:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> no playing to it. they've already won.
[16:00:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> nukes, yo.
[16:00:33] <nick> Russia continues to play the game.
[16:00:25] <crutchy> i wouldn't recommend going to war with russia. not even america could win that
[15:59:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> $who = "useful idiots"; $who =~ s/useful //;
[15:59:29] <crutchy> i reckon russia is awesome at a lot of things, but humanitarianism isn't on that list
[15:59:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> plenty of folks last time i argued about it in comments.
[15:58:58] <crutchy> russia shot their own soldiers in ww2
[15:58:34] <crutchy> lol. who thinks that?
[15:58:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't personally care except to say nyah nyah to everyone who was all "russia are kind, cuddly teddy bears who would never do such a thing"
[15:57:34] <ciri> you talking to me?
[15:57:34] <crutchy> how is US supposed to annex Ukraine if Russia is occupying?
[15:57:02] <crutchy> CIA won't like that
[15:56:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather ukraine
[15:56:13] <exec> weather for "traralgon, victoria, australia" not found. check spelling or try another nearby location.
[15:53:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice, russia has sent armor into ukraine according to the NYT and FNC.
[15:52:37] <crutchy> ~weather
[15:43:34] <monopoly> ^ 04SN journal 03On Mod-Bombing 04(0 comments):
[15:43:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
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[15:41:49] <Bytram|away> gtg... have fun!
[15:41:39] <Bytram|away> lol
[15:41:36] <Bytram|away> yuse guys!
[15:41:18] <Bytram|away> Well... it is a *gorgeous* day here and if I don't take advantage of it, I'll kick myself come winter.
[15:40:49] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[15:40:02] <nick> someone had to, crutchy
[15:39:55] <crutchy> sorry couldn't help myself
[15:39:26] <Landon> huehuehue
[15:39:06] <crutchy> nice to hear you had fun with a tranny in a porche in germany Bytram :p
[15:38:44] <prospectacle> crutchy I can't load weather.gladstonefamily.net either
[15:38:09] * Bytram once rented a Porsche Boxster convertible in Germany; tranny was smooth as silk -- an absolute *dream* to drive!
[15:38:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 698
[15:38:07] <crutchy> coffee++
[15:37:47] <crutchy> i think ~weather is dead. not sure if site is down or its just cos my connection is too shit
[15:35:49] <crutchy> i used to have an '85 manual carolla with a loose gear shifter. was really easy to change gears with which made it awesome fun to drive.
[15:32:59] <crutchy> i can't even get to weather.gladstonefamily.net in firefox :/
[15:32:34] <Landon> but fuck it, practice solves that, priority is to get it moving :)
[15:32:17] <Landon> yeah, I was too worried about slipping the clutch to start out with
[15:31:52] <Bytram> ^^^^
[15:31:42] <mechanicjay> A good trick for that is to pull the ebrake to keep you from rolling backwards -- when you feel the car start to pull forward, drop the ebrake and go
[15:31:42] * Bytram once had his brakes replaced for the first time, at 98,000 miles. Come to find out, they were miscalibrated at the factory... the rear brakes were basically in brand-new, never-used condition. So, the fronts were doing *all* the work, and I got 98K miles out of them.
[15:31:38] <exec> weather for "mumbai" not found. check spelling or try another nearby location.
[15:31:15] <Landon> did I mention this was at the end of a construction merge lane? :)
[15:31:14] <mechanicjay> :)
[15:31:11] <mechanicjay> Landon: it's okay, that build character.
[15:30:55] <Landon> had to lurch forwards half a foot at a time to dodge off to the side of the road where we could gather our wits and get it going again
[15:30:34] <crutchy> ~weather mumbai
[15:30:29] <Landon> first night out on the wide open road, we got stopped going up an overpass
[15:30:26] <mechanicjay> Landon: Nice! Never had hill assist. It of course won't help in all cases - I stalled my truck this morning at a traffic light, not a hill in site.
[15:30:21] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (62 aliases)
[15:30:20] <crutchy> ~rehash
[15:30:17] <Bytram> Landon: once you get the hang of double-clutching and down-shifting, there's no going back
[15:30:06] <Bender> karma - stallinginconstruction: -1
[15:30:06] <Landon> StallingInConstruction--
[15:30:00] <Landon> actually
[15:29:56] <Bytram> LOL!
[15:29:51] <Bender> karma - stallingatthelight: -1
[15:29:51] <Landon> StallingAtTheLight--
[15:29:40] <Bender> karma - manualtransmission: 1
[15:29:40] <Bytram> ManualTransmission++
[15:29:33] <Bender> karma - manualtansmission: 1
[15:29:33] <Bytram> ManualTansmission++
[15:29:24] <prospectacle> yeah manuals are fun
[15:29:05] <Landon> I do think... hill assist on the next car though if we get another manual
[15:29:03] <crutchy> i'll try chucking it out to something rediculous, just to satisfy curiosity
[15:28:55] <Landon> mechanicjay: vroom vroom :) finally getting the hang of stick
[15:28:14] <crutchy> damn internets
[15:27:43] <crutchy> ^30 sec
[15:27:30] <crutchy> eh. if 30 isn't enough time to download some text it aint happenin :/
[15:26:42] <exec> process timed out: ~weather crutchy
[15:25:42] <prospectacle> ~weather crutchy
[15:25:27] <crutchy> just extended socket timeout in script too. sry about that
[15:23:17] <exec> process timed out: ~weather hawaii
[15:22:17] <prospectacle> ~weather hawaii
[15:20:56] <crutchy> slowness is just till end of month cos i'm too much of a cheapskate to get a bigger plan
[15:19:49] <crutchy> seems to vary a bit, but i extended the timeout just in case
[15:19:18] <exec> weather for 10Boston, MA US at 10:55 am (EDT) ~ 24 mins ago: temp: 1024.4°C (76°F), dp: 1013.6°C (56.5°F), press: 101009.8 mb (0 mb/18 mins), humid: 1051%, wind: 109.6 km/h (6 mph) @ 109°
[15:19:08] <crutchy> ~weather boston
[15:18:53] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (62 aliases)
[15:18:52] <crutchy> ~rehash
[15:03:28] <exec> process timed out: ~weather boston
[15:02:57] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[15:01:34] <prospectacle> it's 1 in the morning here, so drink away
[15:00:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - JPMorgan and Other Banks Struck by Cyberattack - http://sylnt.us - to-be-the-center-of-attention
[15:00:43] <prospectacle> nah
[15:00:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's entirely too early for me to think i could use a beer.
[14:59:12] <prospectacle> how's it all going crutchy? Been up to anything interesting?
[14:56:42] <crutchy> it would flood the channel with lightbulbs
[14:55:43] <prospectacle> no exec takes care of all of that
[14:55:30] <crutchy> takes another to go get one from the shop cos usually run out :/
[14:54:58] <crutchy> takes 1 to contemplate changing lightbulb
[14:54:42] <prospectacle> none, just use "~change lightbulb" instead
[14:54:39] <crutchy> hmm
[14:54:00] <crutchy> i reached that apostrophe and had a brain bsod
[14:53:20] <prospectacle> how many crutchys does it take to change a lightbulb?
[14:53:10] <prospectacle> wait plurals don't have apostrophes, let me start again
[14:52:52] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[14:52:51] <prospectacle> how many crutchy's does it take to change a lightbulb?
[14:52:17] <crutchy> i shall reduce its speed from 12mbps down to three fifths of fuck all in protest :p
[14:50:59] <crutchy> tis too! blasphemy!
[14:50:29] <Blackmoore> .. ~weather is earthist!
[14:49:09] <Bytram> Completely sunny with a chance of gamma ray bursts
[14:48:57] <crutchy> damn shaped internet
[14:48:48] <exec> weather for "galactic core" not found. check spelling or try another nearby location.
[14:48:44] <Blackmoore> ~weather galactic core
[14:48:44] <exec> Friday, 29 August 2014 @ 12:48 am AEST - Traralgon VIC, Australia
[14:48:34] <crutchy> ~time
[14:48:31] <Bytram> no time like the present?
[14:48:19] <exec> process timed out: ~time
[14:47:58] <crutchy> ~time
[14:47:51] <crutchy> dunno. its dark outside atm
[14:47:08] <Bytram> looks like you're not having any weather today?
[14:46:23] <crutchy> g'day Bytram
[14:46:00] <crutchy> forgot my sidekick
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[14:45:31] <crutchy> oops
[14:45:22] <crutchy> ~time TheMightyBuzzard
[14:45:18] <Bytram> ~weather crutchy
[14:45:14] <Bytram> crutchy: g'day!
[14:44:34] <crutchy> mornin TheMightyBuzzard
[14:44:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, crutchy
[14:43:04] <Blackmoore> but this coffee.. this is more like drinking draino.
[14:42:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 697
[14:42:40] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[14:42:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 696
[14:42:37] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[14:42:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 695
[14:42:08] <crutchy> coffee++
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[14:10:10] <ciri> ok Bytram
[14:10:08] <Bytram> brb
[14:10:07] <Bytram> so, anyway, after the UI is done comparing the target score that the user selected for the moderation against the current score, and computes the delta, it looks the same as the -1/+1 we're accustomed to already
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[13:57:53] <Bytram> the choice of words associated with each of the scores is key, I think.
[13:57:28] <Bytram> LOL!
[13:57:23] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 17
[13:57:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> caffeine++
[13:57:10] <Bender> karma - tea: 33
[13:57:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> tea++
[13:56:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod but a comment you disagree with is still a comment you disagree with and is unlikely to ever reach +5 under that system even if it deserves to.
[13:56:13] <Bender> karma - tea: 32
[13:56:13] <nick> tea++
[13:55:18] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: btw, remember: what I was proposing is how it *appears* to the user; it all translates, internally, into a "+1/0/-1" which is prety much the same as before.
[13:53:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> say, he might be able to fix it.
[13:53:26] <Bender> karma - coffee: 694
[13:53:26] <mechanicjay> coffee++
[13:53:24] <mechanicjay> Goodmorning Bytram
[13:53:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 693
[13:53:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:53:15] <Bytram> brb
[13:53:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 692
[13:53:13] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:53:11] <Bytram> which reminds me...
[13:53:07] <Bytram> mechanicjay: g'morning!
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[13:53:00] <Bytram> oops, yup.
[13:52:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yeah, thas the gist
[13:52:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram: s/story/comment/
[13:51:52] <Bytram> do I remember correctly? It's been years!
[13:51:41] <Bytram> but, as it was *presented* to me, IIRC, it was basically along the lines of "here's a story; here's how it was modded; do you agree?"...
[13:50:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[13:50:51] <Bytram> never saw the backend *effect* of metamod though I did it a bunch of times.
[13:50:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'all it ever did really
[13:50:22] * Bytram learned something new today.
[13:50:07] <Bytram> hrm? Huh! I don't think I looked at it that way before...
[13:49:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> bad moderators should have to wait a long time before they get the chance to screw up the scores again.
[13:49:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, it's meant to help determine how long before someone gets mod points again.
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[13:48:19] <Bytram> .deop
[13:48:16] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o Bytram] by juggler
[13:48:16] <Bytram> .op
[13:47:59] <Bytram> s/i/in/
[13:47:55] <Bytram> i some respects, isn't metamod kind of like what I am proposing, here?
[13:47:41] * TheMightyBuzzard remembers Bo Derek being a spy on Chuck
[13:47:15] * Bytram remembers the movie "10" with Bo Derek
[13:46:47] <Bytram> it's like the olympics judging a gymnastics competition... people know how to score things.
[13:46:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> and much, MUCH harder to metamod.
[13:45:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i get where you're coming from but it seems like that'd be even more open to agree/disagree moderation.
[13:45:42] <Bytram> hmm, "-1 Wasted my Time"
[13:45:26] * Bytram is open to better descriptors, but that should capture the essence of it.
[13:45:10] <Bytram> "2 Good", "1 Okay", "0 Meh", "-1 Waste of Time"
[13:44:36] <Bytram> imagine some time goes by and I look at another comment, and see it is scored at "4 - VERY good", but it doesn't look *THAT* good to me, so I moderate it to be "3 Quite Good" and internally, we see that 3 < 4, so that translates to a "-1".
[13:43:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, nod nod
[13:43:03] <Bytram> since the comment is currently at a 1, and 5 > 1, that translates (internally) into a +1 moderation.
[13:42:39] <Bytram> I look at it and say, "WOW! that one's GREAT!"; I look at the list of scores I could rate it *at* and select "5 - Best of the Bunch"
[13:41:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[13:41:50] <Bytram> let's say we're looking at a comment that was just posted and it has a score of 1. Okay?
[13:41:29] <Bytram> kinda, but not quite...
[13:41:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, you're thinking average the score then based on selecting from -1-+5
[13:41:12] <Bytram> see? here's yet another case where it's agree/disagree with no limits on the end
[13:40:48] <Bender> karma - (growing pains): -1
[13:40:48] <Bytram> (growing pains)--
[13:40:34] <Bytram> it's a nuanced distinction, but a critical one, IMNSHO
[13:40:28] <Lagg> More growing pains really
[13:40:15] <Lagg> I think that the site is at the point where there are enough people to do mods like they did to me but not quite enough people to balance things out and fix such things naturally
[13:40:00] <Bytram> It *look* like an agree/disagree.
[13:39:49] <Bytram> But, we present the moderation tool to the user in a way that DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THAT.
[13:39:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be. mostly it's going to be based on disagree/agree at this point though.
[13:39:05] <Bytram> and if I select on "score = 5", then it should just be the creme de la creme.
[13:38:46] <Bytram> if I selected on "score = -1" then it should all be troll-bait, spam, or other kinds of junk.
[13:38:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> in theory. in practice it'd pretty much never work that way.
[13:38:13] <Bytram> in theory, if I did a "select * from comments where comment_score = 3;" then I should get a bunch of good, but not necessarily GREAT! comments. Right?
[13:37:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:37:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> we needa hold a staff meeting on this soonish really.
[13:37:22] <Bytram> we have a fixed range of mod scores, right? -1, 0, ..., 5
[13:37:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:37:03] <Bytram> still... hear me out...
[13:36:53] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: hmmm, gotta think about that.
[13:36:33] <Bytram> so, I'm thinking that instead of presenting the user with a +1/-1 tool, present a drop-down list of what they think the final rating of the comment should be, alonwith a description to that effect
[13:36:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, part of the M1 refresh in prep for M2 is adding an agree/disagree score separately from moderation.
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[13:35:39] <Bytram> users are well-trained with +1==Like and -1==dislike/disagree on other, very popular, sites.
[13:35:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> prospectacle, also not a bad idea
[13:35:21] <prospectacle> could be the same with someone who downmods the same user more than X
[13:35:08] <prospectacle> I tried to upmod the same comment twice to see if i could, and it failed.
[13:34:57] <prospectacle> chromas, lol
[13:34:54] <prospectacle> If we want to prevent more than X being used on one user, by one user, then that could just be a rule in accepting the mods.
[13:34:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like it
[13:34:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, ha!
[13:34:43] <nick> spent 10minutes finding posts to downmodd
[13:34:34] <nick> from what i can see
[13:34:31] <chromas> Have Clippit pop up: "It looks like you're trying to abuse your privilege. Would you like some help with that?"
[13:34:31] <nick> all the mods happened in the same few minutes
[13:34:24] <prospectacle> It sounds like - based on what nick said - that it's pretty clear-cut in the case of Lagg, but that's not always the case.
[13:34:23] <Bytram> I'm starting to think part of the problem lies in the way that the moderation UI is *presented* to the user...
[13:34:17] <nick> this was very deliberate
[13:34:06] <nick> there's no excuses, it can't even be claimed 'i strongly disagree with all of his comments'.
[13:33:57] <prospectacle> I tend not to mod down, but when I mod up, I don't read who wrote the comment. Maybe some down-modders are the same.
[13:33:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't so much mind it being done to me but it hacks me right off when it's done to users.
[13:32:45] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard, aye.
[13:32:43] <Bytram> ^^^
[13:32:31] <nick> and downmodded all of them
[13:32:28] <nick> the user in question basically took the 10 most recent comments from the target
[13:32:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. lagg being modbombed, yes?
[13:32:09] <chromas> Adjust the threshold based on their karma and reduce the karma when they abuse mod
[13:32:01] <Bytram> just had a case where someone used all 10 of their points to downmod one person 10 times.
[13:31:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, probably but i have yet to see it.
[13:31:41] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: is there a way to block someone from getting mod points?
[13:31:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Federally Funded Pathogen Labs to Pause Work and Inventory Dangerous Agents - http://sylnt.us - tell-us-what-you-got
[13:31:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. so probably a slashd job then.
[13:30:59] <Bytram> so, though it may officially be unpublished, it wouldn't take long to find the threshold
[13:30:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really. it's pretty easy to see if they've spent half their mod points on comments on 2+ stories by one person.
[13:30:35] <prospectacle> It may be person X (who they're modbombing) was very active and controversial that day
[13:30:32] <Bytram> and, as soon as they get feedback when they downmod 5 that it's undone; they'll try 4, and then ...
[13:30:07] <prospectacle> well intent is harder to establish
[13:29:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, ain't my decision either.
[13:29:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> prospectacle, mmm... if they're trying to use moderation incorrectly for personal reasons, they aren't the type of people we need moderating IMO.
[13:29:37] <prospectacle> That's just my opinion, I'll leave it in your capable hands.
[13:29:14] <prospectacle> Some things are harder to detect, and so you need punishments as a disincentive, but if you can easily catch it before it happens, then punishments seem unnecessary
[13:28:45] <prospectacle> For example you don't punish people for trying to put <script> in a comment, you just strip it out
[13:28:33] <prospectacle> TheMightyBuzzard, i think if it's easy to detect, you can just enforce it beforehand rather than punish and undo it afterwards.
[13:27:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll write it up for the OSS project, code in an off switch for the behavior, and let someone else decide if we want to use it on SN.
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[13:24:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> prospectacle, ideally this would come with an article on the site describing the penalty for mod-bombing but not specifying the threshold.
[13:23:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[13:22:44] <nick> if i looked who it was, i wouldn't keep moddin up TheMightyBuzzard ;)
[13:22:03] <prospectacle> Also it could potentially be an accident, you might be downmodding the comments, not really looking at who is the author
[13:21:32] <prospectacle> I mean if you're rude in a comment you can get downmodded, or responded to, but you're not banned from commenting for a week.
[13:21:10] <chromas> also a wagging finger animated gif
[13:21:02] <prospectacle> Well would it be better to warn people that they can't (and shouldn't) mod-bomb, rather than catch and punish them for trying what appears to be an allowed (if rude) use of the system
[13:20:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> undo, zero the rest of their mod points, and blacklist from getting mod points for a period of time would be best i think.
[13:18:38] <Bytram> brb
[13:18:35] <Bytram> so, if you are not an admin (of some sort; tbd) AND you have spent more than m1_modbomb_threshold downmodding someone, undo
[13:17:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, admins should be immune period.
[13:17:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> half your points on one user is excessive
[13:17:25] <Bytram> for most users, 5 would prolly be fine, but I could see an admin needing to clean out some spam... that could get 'interesting'
[13:17:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why i was saying >4
[13:16:53] <Bytram> and, I'd sooner see it set to a higher value than just 4.
[13:16:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, was thinking m1_modbomb_threshold
[13:16:20] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: maybe make the antimodbomb value a system variable?
[13:14:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> harder to search the db than the filesystem though.
[13:14:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that i see offhand
[13:13:44] <TK> Is there a mod points blacklist?
[13:10:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> really doesn't matter if the mods are legit, if you're spending half your points downmodding one person you're doing moderation wrong.
[13:09:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, automagically. either part of the code run when someone clicks moderate or as a slashd job run every 10m or so.
[13:08:59] <Bytram> brb
[13:08:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> tried that but i keep losing my ignore list. going to write a script that insults it every time it speaks.
[13:08:54] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: automagically? or queue up a page for someone to review and okay it?
[13:08:26] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I've added ciri to my ignore-list; viva la difference!
[13:07:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> right off the top of my head, i'm thinking >4 vs the same person = modbomb and needs reversed.
[13:07:01] <nick> best response to ciri in recent memory
[13:06:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> eat my ass, ciri
[13:05:47] <ciri> you talking to me?
[13:05:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> how many you think qualifies as a mod-bomb?
[13:05:20] <Bytram> pm me?
[13:05:19] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:05:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know what, i need to write in a slash daemon to check for that and reverse the mods
[13:05:12] <Bytram> nick: can u pls check and let me know?
[13:05:12] <nick> not suermodpoints but i do have some if a correction needs to be made
[13:04:51] <nick> think i have modpoints
[13:04:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, in fact i have not a clue. my guess would be NCommander and mrcoolbp.
[13:04:14] <nick> :|
[13:03:57] <Bytram> seems like someone actually did use all 10 of their mod points to downmod 1 user.
[13:03:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> have the publish date showing for users' submissions as well but it's waiting on a merge.
[13:03:26] <Bytram> or, failing that, know who would?
[13:03:18] <Bytram> btw, you wouldn't haappen to have super mod point powers on prod, would you?
[13:02:57] <Bytram> nd nod
[13:02:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly NC then
[13:02:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh right
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[13:02:43] <Bytram> pj is kinda busy with his move this w/e ... don't know how much time he'll have avail. :(
[13:02:11] <Bytram> oh goody! A primordial bug!
[13:01:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> not yet, NC was gonna get that and the others all bundled over to live this AM. or he was going to have PJ do it. unclear.
[13:01:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> that was the fun one to track down. wasn't even our bug either. was one left over from the original slash team.
[13:00:57] <Bytram> and... fixed, but is it on the main site yet?
[13:00:38] <Bytram> what was wrong?
[13:00:25] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 54
[13:00:25] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[13:00:21] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[13:00:21] <Bytram> !woop
[13:00:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, already fixed that one too.
[12:59:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like easy issues. they make me look productive.
[12:59:48] <Bytram> hmm, I wonder if there is anything on github for the disappearing choices on the messages page.
[12:59:11] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nod nod; saw the github emails
[12:58:56] <Bender> uppers of coffee are: crutchy: 356, TheMightyBuzzard: 183, Blackmoore: 73, Bytram: 50, chromas: 17, mrcoolbp: 15, MrBluze: 15, crutchy_: 13, arti: 12, TheMightyLaptop: 10, TK: 10, mechanicjay: 9, AndyTheAbsurd: 8, mattie_p: 5, Bytram|away: 4, juggs: 3, TheMightyBuzzard|Book: 2, Blackmoore|afk: 2, paulej72: 2, exec: 2, Bytram|afk: 2, monopoly: 2, prospectacle: 2, SoyCow7650: - 1 more
[12:58:56] <Bytram> !whoup coffee
[12:58:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, oh, fixed all your issues cept one last night and paulej72 fixed that one.
[12:58:42] <Bytram> aka 'Liquid Sunshine'
[12:58:33] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[12:58:33] <Bytram> lol
[12:58:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, ar
[12:58:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, wisdom of the ages. (coffee++)
[12:58:01] <Bytram> umm, what was that for?
[12:57:53] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: well! thansk!!!
[12:57:40] <Bender> karma - ar: 4
[12:57:40] <chromas> ar++
[12:57:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 691
[12:57:38] <ar> coffee--
[12:57:36] <ar> coffee---
[12:57:34] <Bender> karma - bytram: 18
[12:57:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram++
[12:57:31] <chromas> Guess it's compiling time
[12:57:29] <Bytram> good morning all!
[12:57:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 692
[12:57:23] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:57:10] <chromas> wtf how can suse not have ii
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[12:55:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, not feeling the muse this AM but there are probably some bugs that need fixing.
[12:55:35] <chromas> ~summon many bots
[12:55:18] <chromas> no!!!
[12:55:15] <chromas> Plus I rearranged some stuff
[12:55:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> need more irc activity or i'm going to have to break down and write code.
[12:54:10] <chromas> yep
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[12:52:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, all better?
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[12:44:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 691
[12:44:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
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[12:17:10] <chromas> About to. Here comes the irc withdrawal…
[12:16:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> reboot
[12:16:32] <chromas> kernel's still running fine so my packets get through but no dns
[12:15:13] <Bender> karma - systemd: 0
[12:15:13] <chromas> systemd++
[12:15:11] <chromas> not really useful when you have...
[12:14:43] <chromas> Looks like arch doesn't have it
[12:14:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly never heard of killall5
[12:13:55] <chromas> anyway, I was root, so now most things died. I can try to log in but it's so slow it times out
[12:13:36] <chromas> Not sure why killall isn't there
[12:13:29] <chromas> I wannted a killall for something or another and I guess I tab completed
[12:13:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 690
[12:13:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:13:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> how'd you manage that?
[12:08:39] * chromas just accidentally discovered killall5
[12:02:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Senator Wants All Cops to Wear Cameras - http://sylnt.us - it-wasn't-me
[11:51:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima slap an issue up for that and regular moderation overhaul right now.
[11:48:28] <prospectacle> yeah the categories could use a small overhaul at some point
[11:40:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, if we're going to run political stories, we should have a politics category for submissions.
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[11:01:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 689
[11:01:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
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[09:30:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Says World's Smallest 3G Modem Has Been Launched - http://sylnt.us - billions-of-smart-devices-sounds-ominous
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[08:12:21] <SirFinkus> The only way to fix it is to flush it all away
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[08:00:13] <chromas> well it's dry; now's the time to burn it all down
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[07:55:50] <monopoly> ^ 03The seriousness of California's drought - Imgur
[07:55:49] <SirFinkus> desiccation? http://imgur.com
[07:55:17] <juggs> gtg beanfun MLD etc.
[07:54:30] <juggs> dessication is a problem
[07:54:12] <juggs> and the 20% that didn't live near water perished soon after.
[07:54:10] <SirFinkus> apparently an am crunchwrap is the breakfast of my dreams
[07:53:24] <SirFinkus> seems like an implied threat
[07:53:20] <SirFinkus> so us navy ad, 80% of people live near water
[07:52:34] <SirFinkus> sorry, oatis happened
[07:52:30] <juggs> to slow
[07:52:12] <SirFinkus> of retarded verbs
[07:52:07] <SirFinkus> I can't remember any examples atm though
[07:52:03] <juggs> verbs for retardation?
[07:52:01] * chromas verbs verbs
[07:51:25] <SirFinkus> there are a number or retarded verbs though
[07:51:02] <juggs> bitch
[07:50:56] <juggs> 4
[07:50:46] <ciri> 3
[07:50:46] <juggs> 2 nanoseconds?
[07:50:43] * chromas reboots
[07:50:29] <SirFinkus> forever as most people understand it
[07:49:48] <juggs> SirFinkus, I think "forever" may be stretching it a tad.
[07:49:47] * chromas takes a taste....takes another taste.......one more to be sure...
[07:49:24] <SirFinkus> anyway, this ranch dressing absolutely does not have any semen in it
[07:49:04] <SirFinkus> been a verb forever I think
[07:48:49] <chromas> many a year ago
[07:48:42] <juggs> when did "eye" become a verb?
[07:48:31] <Bender> karma - homemade_dressing: 1
[07:48:31] <chromas> homemade_dressing++
[07:47:32] * juggs eyes the ranch dressing suspiciously
[07:47:28] <SirFinkus> primo uncut shit
[07:46:45] <SirFinkus> I do have beer, french fries, and homemade ranch dressing if anyone actually does want to party
[07:44:42] <Bender> karma - fedora: 4
[07:44:42] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[07:37:05] <monopoly> ^ 03Andrew W.K. - Party Hard - YouTube
[07:37:04] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[07:36:08] <chromas> sudo systemctl start party
[07:35:34] <arti> yes.
[07:34:55] <juggs> is it me or is it stifling in here?
[07:34:52] <SirFinkus> I don't appear to have missed much
[07:34:32] <juggs> SirFinkus, ha "whatever you do, do not try to live a life and under no circumstance allow the TV to be unpowered. Always keep the remote control within easy reach. This is for your own good.
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[07:31:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Commuting by Private Transport Linked to Higher BMI & Body Fat - http://sylnt.us - driving-to-the-station
[07:28:55] <SirFinkus> guy in a commercial jumps over a bench: "do not attempt"
[07:25:45] <juggs> :P
[07:25:27] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[07:25:26] <chromas> How does chromas is actually a bot right make you feel, juggs?
[07:24:58] <juggs> chromas is actually a bot right?
[07:17:45] <chromas> Hair conditioner and body lotion ads are where it's at
[07:17:16] <SirFinkus> its been a while since I've watched tv, and I almost want to take up smoking because of all these "truth" commercials
[07:13:12] <Bender> karma - hurling_toilet_bowls_on_a_budget: 1
[07:13:12] <crutchy> hurling_toilet_bowls_on_a_budget++
[07:11:51] <Bender> karma - smell_of_msg_infested_packet_pasta: 1
[07:11:51] <crutchy> smell_of_msg_infested_packet_pasta++
[07:10:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 688
[07:10:59] <crutchy> coffee++
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[06:53:56] <Bender> karma - pants: -1
[06:53:56] <chromas> pants-- # somebody turned the summer back on
[06:52:48] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 39
[06:52:47] <chromas> archlinux++
[06:51:56] <chromas> Don't like black & white?
[06:51:40] <chromas> it's a superset
[06:50:11] <juggs> dot code == QR code? avoid those like the plague personally.
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[06:45:42] <chromas> Soylent News with a dot code that points to the site. Also graffiti stickers
[06:44:53] <chromas> Do people still do bumper stickers?
[06:43:50] <chromas> Power supplies without dangling wires. What a world!
[06:43:37] <chromas> They're so shiny and/or matte black
[06:43:20] <juggs> yes yes - you absolutely ~must~ look through them.
[06:42:34] <chromas> crap, I had to go look up that Rosewill name on the internets, now I see lots of toys I have to look through
[06:42:28] <juggs> your*
[06:42:23] <juggs> Perhaps we should have a name you price option.
[06:41:34] <chromas> Should also have an asininely priced tee shirt, "I paid $150 and all I got was this Soylent tee shirt"
[06:40:54] <juggs> lol
[06:40:43] <chromas> Soylent wifi adapters, Soylent keyboards, Soylent mufflers
[06:40:24] <juggs> Take one aluminium billet - CNC out a cavity - install USB storage chippery - done. Replace Au for Al for the hyper-bling option. Engrave SN logo on outside, encrust with diamonds etc.
[06:40:22] <chromas> We need lots of other stuff; it could be like Newegg's Rosewill brand
[06:39:20] <chromas> I'd think if you did someting foody, you'd've them do all the handling
[06:37:00] <juggs> I'm not sure I even want to consider the paperwork required to sell food in the USA. I would like to see some funky usb storage stuff though. Pipedot's metal fob thing looked nice. We should probably source directly from China for something like that though rather than go via zazzle.
[06:35:51] <chromas> :D
[06:35:49] <exec> <chromas> doesn't have any friend
[06:35:48] <chromas> s/that m//
[06:34:28] * chromas doesn't have that many friend
[06:34:11] <chromas> I s'pose then we're stepping into trademark issues. Well, we're the better Soylent, dammit!
[06:34:02] <juggs> Buy 100 and give them out to friends and acquaintances - doubly whammy.
[06:33:37] <chromas> Need to find a food supplier and get customized candy bars
[06:32:37] <chromas> It's unobtanium
[06:32:24] <juggs> crikry - isn't it pricey enough?
[06:29:59] <chromas> Shouldn't the unobtanium stuff be expensive? $100 keyfob—because I care thiiiiiis much!
[06:18:35] <chromas> Actually, I think I did but that ruins the joke
[06:18:14] <chromas> I did Nazi that
[06:13:26] <juggs> ahh - I think zara (fashion outlet / brand) - fell foul of that recently. Launched a blue striped toddler's shirt with a yellow star on it. Admittedly on closer inspection the badge did state "Sheriff" - but understandably certain segments of the population were far from impressed. Think I picked up that kerfuffle on BBC uk.
[06:05:23] <chromas> I think there was a certain group of people who had a thing about wearing stars around the place
[05:52:44] <juggs> yar, that was requested. I think some thought it might be gauche or elitist or some such to wear a star around the place. Good to have the choice :)
[05:51:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intellectual Property Casebook Now Available as a Free Download - http://sylnt.us - some-good-news
[05:51:24] <exec> <prospectacle> maybe it will also help advertise subscriptions to people who see the star and think "oh what's that where do I get one?"
[05:51:23] <prospectacle> s/start/star/
[05:51:16] <prospectacle> maybe it will also help advertise subscriptions to people who see the start and think "oh what's that where do I get one?"
[05:50:53] <prospectacle> no doubt
[05:50:23] <Popeidol> (presumably after you flaunt it a bit)
[05:49:56] <Popeidol> oh nice, you can optionally hide the subscription star
[05:26:12] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[05:26:12] <mrcoolbp> lol
[05:26:03] <chromas> it's okay; he left anyway
[05:25:44] * prospectacle should read all the way to the end before writing
[05:24:22] <prospectacle> oops
[05:24:20] <prospectacle> you just use your cc details
[05:24:08] <prospectacle> spalls, pretty sure you can paypal without an account
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[05:19:41] <juggs> I swear PP didn't used to make you sign up an account to make a CC payment :( I'm not familiar with US banking, but here it would be trivial to set up cash deposit with unique userid reference if cheque or CC tracking were a concern.
[05:16:45] * SpallsHurgenson suggests catapults as a solution to every problem :)
[05:16:33] <Bender> todo item 16 added
[05:16:33] <mrcoolbp> !todo CC option for Sub payments
[05:16:25] <mrcoolbp> spalls: it'll be an option eventually, that's a promise, don't have a timeline for you yet
[05:15:55] <mrcoolbp> looks like we didn't get that for launch
[05:15:44] <mrcoolbp> spalls: I thought we had a had a CC option
[05:15:42] <SpallsHurgenson> pennies launched by catapult, of course
[05:15:31] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, what would your preferred way to pay be?
[05:15:17] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but they still demand a paypal account. might as well ask me to sign up for facebook while your at it :)
[05:15:02] <mrcoolbp> spalls: though I'm working on getting a crypto service integrated, we haven't actuallly started working on implementation in any way
[05:14:25] <mrcoolbp> spalls: you can do credit-via-paypal, but they are still the middle man at current
[05:13:58] <SpallsHurgenson> shame about it only being paypal payments. I'm not getting near /that/ with a 27.387" foot pole
[05:13:57] * mrcoolbp does maths
[05:13:47] <prospectacle> oh
[05:13:24] <mrcoolbp> that figure is incorrect
[05:13:16] <prospectacle> those sneaky bastards
[05:13:14] <mrcoolbp> wait
[05:12:57] <mrcoolbp> = )
[05:12:53] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: yourself included
[05:12:02] <mrcoolbp> 5 people figure it out and payed already
[05:11:45] <mrcoolbp> okay, so I'm taking out the staff memebers from this figure
[05:10:53] <prospectacle> legend
[05:10:41] <mrcoolbp> sec
[05:10:39] <mrcoolbp> oh I can answer that
[05:09:57] <prospectacle> if you don't mind me asking
[05:07:49] <prospectacle> mrcoolbp how many have discovered and used the secret subscription so far?
[05:06:35] * mrcoolbp backs away slowly
[05:06:30] <mrcoolbp> ah
[05:00:59] <SpallsHurgenson> I am having teh l33t h4x0r skilz
[05:00:44] <mrcoolbp> you bastage
[04:57:07] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe :)
[04:55:42] <mrcoolbp> Spalls are you trying to set it on infinite loop?
[04:54:18] <Bender> todo item 6 added
[04:54:18] <SpallsHurgenson> !todo goto item 1
[04:54:06] <mrcoolbp> nice work buddy
[04:54:03] <mrcoolbp> lol
[04:53:48] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[04:53:48] <prospectacle> !done 1
[04:53:46] <prospectacle> oh
[04:53:43] <Bender> no items deleted
[04:53:40] <prospectacle> !done 3
[04:53:39] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[04:53:38] <prospectacle> !done 2
[04:53:35] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[04:53:35] <prospectacle> !done 1
[04:53:27] <Bender> todo for prospectacle: 1) learn how to use todo list in irc 2) buy some swag 3) subscribe
[04:53:25] <prospectacle> !todo
[04:53:23] <Bender> todo item 3 added
[04:53:23] <prospectacle> !todo subscribe
[04:53:18] <Bender> todo item 2 added
[04:53:18] <prospectacle> !todo buy some swag
[04:50:01] <Bender> todo item 3 added
[04:50:01] <juggs> !todo double-check all items have "Show Customize" unchecked
[04:49:51] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[04:49:51] <juggs> !done 3
[04:49:48] <juggs> mofo
[04:49:44] <Bender> todo for juggs: 1) rss-bot wiki page 2) swag about blurb 3) don't believe the hype, grab a systemd distro and wrestle it
[04:49:44] <juggs> !todo
[04:49:39] <chromas> What kind of revenge on irc bots? Need some help?
[04:48:57] <chromas> systemctl start rage
[04:48:38] <Bender> todo item 5 added
[04:48:38] <SpallsHurgenson> !todo grab /something/ and wrestle with it
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[04:48:21] <Bender> karma - systemd: -1
[04:48:21] <chromas> Systemd++
[04:46:51] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[04:46:51] <juggs> !done 4
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[04:46:39] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[04:46:39] <juggs> !done 3
[04:46:27] <Bender> todo for juggs: 1) rss-bot wiki page 2) swag about blurb 3) change email addy on list 4) don't believe the hype, grab a systemd distro and wrestle it 5) double-check all items have "Show Customize" unchecked
[04:46:27] <juggs> !todo
[04:45:58] <Bender> todo item 5 added
[04:45:58] <juggs> !todo double-check all items have "Show Customize" unchecked
[04:43:29] <SpallsHurgenson> 0 things completed. I need better time management
[04:42:37] <Bender> todo for spallshurgenson: 1) plan to take over the world 2) go to bed 3) get to set policy for the nation 4) take revenge on all IRC bots
[04:42:37] <SpallsHurgenson> !todo
[04:42:35] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm
[04:39:22] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[04:39:22] <mrcoolbp> !done 13
[04:39:03] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[04:39:03] <mrcoolbp> !done 10
[04:38:42] <mrcoolbp> shit
[04:38:33] <Bender> flood-protect for board meetings 11) hammer linode for a better deal 12) check dev WRT poll+story 13) document store maintenence procedures on wiki 14) double-check all items have "Show Customize" unchecked 15) embroidered hat 16) t-shirt: "I don't always RTFA, but when I do, I read it in sourcecode 17) Update staff-list 18) zazzle "about" page
[04:38:31] <mrcoolbp> !more
[04:38:29] <Bender> todo for mrcoolbp: 1) make sure someone else has privs on every system 2) contact StarTrek Reboot orgs 3) social-media/user recruitment strategy 4) make helpful graphics for editing interface 5) site redesign contest 6) ask NCommander if we still need all-staff meetings 7) badges for # of accepted submissions 8) warrant canary 9) encrypted dropbox SN account 10) test - 1 more
[04:38:29] <mrcoolbp> !todo
[04:37:24] <SpallsHurgenson> must make for some /interesting/ support calls :)
[04:36:05] <prospectacle> Both as a writer of software and (oddly enough) a user of other people's software
[04:35:41] <prospectacle> That's the only thing my error codes ever say
[04:31:26] <SpallsHurgenson> we need more "user is a bloody idiot" error codes
[04:21:39] <SpallsHurgenson> WINE Error 0x0000e: WTF? Just, just... no!
[04:20:44] <Popeidol> I wonder if it works in wine
[04:20:14] <Popeidol> came across it on a win98 box I was scrapping and decided it deserved a chance to shine again
[04:20:10] <SpallsHurgenson> while I have no direct evidence of this, I am relatively certain I have a copy of it on every one of my relatives computers :)
[04:19:28] <Popeidol> I have a copy of bonzibuddy lying around at home
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[04:10:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hackers Target Norwegian Oil Industry - http://sylnt.us - known-unknowns
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[03:49:54] <SpallsHurgenson> the Internet is never mistaken about things like that
[03:49:29] <juggs> aye
[03:49:19] <SpallsHurgenson> but the Internet assures me it was purest evil
[03:48:05] <SpallsHurgenson> honestly, I wouldn't know. My only interaction with the software was to remove it, so I have no idea what it really did :)
[03:47:57] <juggs> Perhaps there is a need for a SoylentBuddy :D
[03:47:27] <juggs> not much use without its backend servers I wouldn't have thought. Would it even run on recent Win versions?
[03:46:42] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently somebody had hacked together an adware free version of the client, at least according to wikipedia
[03:46:26] <Popeidol> since the originals went down the client isn't too useful\
[03:46:17] <Popeidol> somebody needs to come up with an open-source bonzibuddy server
[03:38:43] <SpallsHurgenson> tempting :)
[03:36:47] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, install them a bonzi buddy - I'm sure they'll thank you :D
[03:35:41] <SpallsHurgenson> careful, I think that's a bannable offense around here
[03:35:21] <Tecnomo> I liked the wizard.
[03:34:45] <SpallsHurgenson> (and that damn dog that appeared in XP when you did a search)
[03:34:13] <SpallsHurgenson> you know what is sad? how many regular users have told me they MISS clippy
[03:33:43] <prospectacle> it looks like you're trying to compose an irc message, would you like some help
[03:32:58] <juggs> the embodiment of Clippy!! aaarcgh
[03:32:35] <SpallsHurgenson> my god, it's true! you're just made up of paperclips and PostIt notes!
[03:31:03] * prospectacle is a fake office worker
[03:29:30] <SpallsHurgenson> real office workers snort cocaine :)
[03:27:41] <prospectacle> real men don't need coffee at all. I'm an office workers
[03:26:37] <SpallsHurgenson> is there MILK in that coffee? real men take it black!
[03:24:58] <SpallsHurgenson> <ploof>
[03:21:56] <Tecnomo> Thanks
[03:21:37] <juggs> hehe - had to paw through my browser history to find that
[03:20:51] <prospectacle> that second img is my mug. hooray my mug is famous
[03:20:16] <prospectacle> using your sherlock holmes like deductive powers, you may be able to come up with an explanation. your guess is as good as mine
[03:19:53] <prospectacle> tecnomo, mine was shipped from america but on the bottom it says made in china
[03:19:23] <Tecnomo> Do you know what country they are made in ?
[03:18:29] <monopoly> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[03:18:28] <juggs> Tecnomo, and another one already being put to good use https://imgur.com
[03:17:42] <monopoly> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[03:17:41] <juggs> Tecnomo, real world example as received.... https://imgur.com
[03:17:20] <prospectacle> oops juggs beat me to it
[03:16:56] <prospectacle> Tecnomo, I think the basic mugs are made in china, then custom-printed and shipped from america
[03:15:24] <paulej72> I really do hate how unstable the site is after a reload of slash
[03:15:16] <juggs> Tecnomo - I ~think~ the base mugs are made in China then customised / additionally glazed locally (zazzle has fulfillment centres all over the place it seems).
[03:14:17] <chromas> We need to be able to SedBot the comments
[03:14:12] <paulej72> lol
[03:14:05] * juggs ducks
[03:14:02] <juggs> paulej72, automatic page refresh on 503 error paulej72 ?
[03:13:27] <paulej72> Can anyone figure out the new feature.
[03:12:59] <paulej72> Ok we got some free bonus upgrades to the site in order to fix some outstanding bugs. Hell if I am going to cherry pick a bug fix and leave a new feature off.
[03:12:38] <Tecnomo> Any one where the Soylent coffee cup are made ?
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[02:58:55] <prospectacle> although you ever notice how jimmy wales looks a lot like hank scorpio
[02:56:22] <prospectacle> lots of people make money off the web, but most of the best stuff is free
[02:56:13] <Bender> karma - wikipedia: 1
[02:56:13] <prospectacle> wikipedia++
[02:56:06] <Popeidol> I'd be in so much debt to wikipedia
[02:56:05] <prospectacle> l
[02:56:04] <prospectacle> lo
[02:56:00] <Popeidol> thank goodness the internet as a whole wasn't that much
[02:55:27] <Popeidol> that works 5.47c per page
[02:54:53] <prospectacle> I hope it doesn't run out after I view 365 pages
[02:54:42] <prospectacle> I'm guessing typo, didn't notice that
[02:54:33] <ciri> rofl
[02:54:32] <prospectacle> lol
[02:54:15] <Popeidol> is that a typo or are subscriptions actually by the page somehow?
[02:54:08] <JamesNZ> prospectacle: I think I've got to plot the degree distribution of a graph, will need to take another look at it.
[02:53:20] <Popeidol> '365-page subscription to soylentnews'
[02:52:56] <prospectacle> oh yeah what have you been assigned?
[02:51:40] * JamesNZ is pretty good, gonna start on an assignment soon
[02:51:17] <JamesNZ> Ah, I see.
[02:50:32] <prospectacle> log in and look at the left side bar
[02:50:25] <prospectacle> just found out the subscriptions are secretly up if you're interested
[02:50:23] <prospectacle> good and you?
[02:50:17] <JamesNZ> Afternoon prospectacle \o How goes it?
[02:49:57] <ciri> hey whats up prospectacle
[02:49:57] <prospectacle> hi jamesnz
[02:49:50] <prospectacle> ..back
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[02:31:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Audio Reveals Pause in Gunfire When Michael Brown Was Shot - http://sylnt.us - something-doesn't-sound-right-here
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[02:31:05] <Bytram> g'night everyone!
[02:31:00] <Bytram> and with my inbox knocked into submission, I think it's that time for me, too.
[02:30:58] <pbnjoe> night
[02:30:50] <ciri> nite TheMightyBuzzard
[02:30:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite
[02:30:43] <Bytram> sleep well my friend!
[02:30:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> perfect sleeping temperature
[02:30:25] <Bytram> LOL!
[02:30:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ac set to 65F
[02:30:06] <Bytram> ugh, hot AND sticky... hope you can get a good night's sleep nonetheless!
[02:29:40] <exec> weather for 10Ada, Ada Municipal Airport, OK, United States at 8:53 pm (CDT) ~ 36 mins ago: temp: 1028°C (82.4°F), dp: 1021°C (69.8°F), press: 101016.3 mb (+0.3 mb/18 mins), humid: 1065%, wind: 109.6 km/h (6 mph) @ 10150°
[02:29:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> no doubt. they should be going to predefined addresses
[02:29:32] <Bytram> ~weather TheMightyBuzzard
[02:29:18] <Bytram> what we really need is a separate toggle for where to send system alerts!
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[02:29:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: np; I think I ran into this once before; paulej72 knew exactly what to do but I can't seem to recall right now.
[02:28:27] * Bytram glances at his much emptier inbox and smiles
[02:28:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, ya, i have no idea on that. can't view the file queue to find out why.
[02:28:12] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: thanks for all your help!
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[02:27:51] <Bytram> okay, that *should* have turned off the noise, but the problem remains that the site is complaining about something going 'wrong' every five minutes.
[02:27:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> aright folks. been a busy day for me. going to crash and have a nice, restful day tomorrow.
[02:26:06] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: four more and we can call you Heinz
[02:25:44] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 53
[02:25:44] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[02:25:43] <Bytram> hmmm, the refresh thingy only seems to work once. still, I *think* I got it turned off... I'll find out soon!
[02:23:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[02:23:29] <Bytram> I just reset the (admin) option: Daily Site Stats from [e-mail] to [No Messages]
[02:23:00] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[02:23:00] <Bytram> !woop
[02:22:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> just stay off the subscription page for the moment. fix is in but not yet on prod.
[02:22:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> gods i hope not. i ENJOY being a dev.
[02:22:07] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I tried Ctr+F5 earlier in the day with no luck... I'll try it.
[02:21:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not a very sticky bug
[02:21:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, hold shift hit reload
[02:21:42] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nod nod; I saw that... I think that was kind of a probationary period thingy, with the thought that at some point, you'd get full access on prod.
[02:21:30] <Lagg> I take that as a compliment though, it means that it was sufficiently high in the first place.
[02:21:12] <Lagg> I also seem to have quite a following that likes to downmod my stuff as "overrated"
[02:21:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, nope. they made me take admin on chillax earlier for some reason but i'm average joe user on prod
[02:20:59] <Bytram> and... since there is now a bug with accessing preferences... I can't seem to go in and turn off the switch that sends them to me.
[02:20:57] <Lagg> http://soylentnews.org expanding upon something the summary vaguely touches upon, clearly redundant
[02:20:27] <Lagg> Am clearly trolling
[02:20:23] <Lagg> http://soylentnews.org me asking for reproducible results
[02:20:19] <Bytram> process_file_queue.pl odd exit (status 25, signal 0)
[02:20:19] <Bytram> SLASHD line 165 produced the following error:
[02:20:19] <Bytram> SoylentNews Slashd Error Alert!
[02:20:18] <Bytram> do you have the power to fix a bug on production? I get this e-mail every five minutes:
[02:20:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, me either and i think pj and nc are asleep.
[02:19:57] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I don't think so.
[02:19:45] <pbnjoe> aha
[02:19:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, do you possess the hammer of justice Re: modbombs?
[02:19:41] <Lagg> I was at 48 before actually
[02:19:36] <Lagg> Oops, meant 10
[02:19:28] <pbnjoe> 12?
[02:19:13] <Lagg> Since it's exactly 38 someone just wasted all 12 points on me
[02:19:11] <Bytram> Lagg: hi there!
[02:19:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> Lagg, it really honks me off that good comments may not be seen because of bad downmods.
[02:19:05] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: good morning!
[02:18:54] <Lagg> That's why I like the slashcode system of internet points so much. It's so self-balancing
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[02:18:26] <Lagg> and honestly if people waste their mod points on me it means that other people who make similar posts that try to be scientific or blunt will be spared them
[02:18:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin Bytram|away
[02:18:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> fun to burn sometimes too.
[02:18:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod and you'll make it back shortly enough anyway. max karma is easy.
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[02:17:39] <Lagg> prospectacle: As long as IRC loves me I have the powar
[02:17:26] <Lagg> It's not one particular thing either, just a combination of things.
[02:17:00] <Bender> karma - lagg: 5
[02:17:00] <prospectacle> Lagg++ this is the only karma that matters
[02:16:58] <Lagg> To be honest though because of all the disturbing things I've seen within the last few years given how much I've started involving myself with youtube (I have a video project) and such I'm okay with this. I'm starting to enter a mindset where I like pissing off these mouthbreathing jackasses
[02:16:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> Lagg, see, it's a good thing i'm a dev and not an admin type. i'm of the mind that modbombs should be dealt with with extreme prejudice.
[02:16:24] <juggs> Aww how touching - I gained another friend :D
[02:15:44] <Lagg> Wonder who I pissed off, perhaps a bible thumper, maybe someone who thinks I don't dislike systemd enough, who knows \_(o.O)_/
[02:15:23] <juggs> Lagg, ouch
[02:15:23] <pbnjoe> :)
[02:15:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh and gracias
[02:15:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> pbnjoe, fixed and merged. will show live when the rest of the typo fixes go live tomorrow.
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[02:14:55] <Lagg> It looks like someone went on a downmod spree. I had 50 karma and it's suddenly at 38.
[02:14:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> Lagg, not yet. been working on UI stuff myself. clearing some low hanging fruit.
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[02:11:38] <Lagg> Heh, did anyone make adjustments to the mod system TheMightyBuzzard
[02:10:00] <pbnjoe> I Ctrl+F5'd to be sure
[02:09:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhhh
[02:09:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not seeing that particular typo though
[02:09:53] <pbnjoe> *headshake* I just subbed 5min ago, it appears in the message telling you when the sub expires
[02:09:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 687
[02:09:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[02:08:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> may already be fixed though. i went through a laundry list of fixes mrcoolbp pointed out this evening.
[02:08:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> pbnjoe, that would likely be me.
[02:07:52] <pbnjoe> TheMightyBuzzard, who's the one that manages subs? Before they're announced, someone should fix the typo "subsrciption" in the sub info :)
[02:02:12] <pbnjoe> ttyl, gl
[02:01:55] <SpallsHurgenson> brb afk and other initialisms. gotta go pick up a friend in need
[02:01:28] <pbnjoe> fun, sun, shiny new sub
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[01:58:04] <pbnjoe> 365-page? that's an interesting way to put it
[01:56:47] <SpallsHurgenson> remind me not to come to any of your parties
[01:56:36] <pbnjoe> if you've got an imagination
[01:56:33] <pbnjoe> that can still be fun
[01:56:13] <SpallsHurgenson> <sigh> All I bought today was plastic garbage bags and cat-litter :-/
[01:55:34] <pbnjoe> GOG games, a subscription, and maybe some swag
[01:55:23] <pbnjoe> yeah today I will be splurging on things
[01:55:02] <SpallsHurgenson> unfortunately, I couldn't make myself buy the Gothic games a fifth time; even I have limits :)
[01:53:43] <SpallsHurgenson> I hate GOG. I keep buying games I already own just so I don't have to pull out the CDs :)
[01:53:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> were four last mrcoolbp checked a couple hours ago. but again, not announced yet so you gotta notice it.
[01:53:11] <pbnjoe> dangit SpallsHurgenson ya stole my thunder
[01:53:05] * prospectacle stands back and admires his shiny new star
[01:52:59] <pbnjoe> massive UI overhaul, the addition of movies, and the drop of 35 games (which can be purchased til monday with deep discount)
[01:52:43] <SpallsHurgenson> MovieGOG!
[01:52:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> best guess, half a dozen.
[01:52:21] <pbnjoe> to continue on what I was saying before, GOG is way different today
[01:52:03] <prospectacle> TMB how many subscribers so far?
[01:51:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> scuse me while i go find something of the baked goods family to gnaw on.
[01:51:47] <chromas> it's just like c|net without the pipe
[01:51:41] <SpallsHurgenson> the merger is still going through http://consumerist.com
[01:51:16] <pbnjoe> wait, softpedia is more than just a site that wraps installers with crap?
[01:50:58] <chromas> from the mr-potatohead!-mr-potato-head!-back-doors-are-not-secrets! dept
[01:50:51] <prospectacle> I'm am finally part of the elite
[01:50:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> some brilliant coding there
[01:50:16] <prospectacle> HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
[01:50:00] <SpallsHurgenson> ah, hardcoded passwords never get old :) http://news.softpedia.com
[01:49:59] <pbnjoe> well, the second one I wouldn't say I frequent most, but lots
[01:49:35] <pbnjoe> big changes in two sites I frequent most today
[01:49:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's in go ahead n use it mode, just not announced yet
[01:49:03] <prospectacle> alrighty then
[01:48:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[01:48:24] <pbnjoe> well, I mean, it's visible on the site
[01:48:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> some sneaky buggers already spent moneys though
[01:47:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely tomorrow
[01:47:38] <prospectacle> I was expecting an announcement. probably later
[01:47:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, fat cash for us. or at least coffee money assuming i elbow people in the throat to keep them away from my coffee.
[01:47:30] <pbnjoe> think I'm gonna get me a star and be like a fancy ol' Soylent Deputy
[01:47:29] <prospectacle> ah ha!
[01:46:41] <pbnjoe> immediately under Friends, Foes on the left side
[01:46:13] <prospectacle> did I miss the subs?
[01:46:09] <SpallsHurgenson> chromas: evidence of my l33t hax0ring skillz :)
[01:45:47] <pbnjoe> namely the store and subs
[01:45:23] * pbnjoe is happy about today's stuff
[01:45:21] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson found a hole in self-karma protection
[01:45:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup, yo
[01:45:09] <prospectacle> hi pbnjoe
[01:45:00] <pbnjoe> hello soylentils
[01:44:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> saved the world twice. that's epic karma
[01:44:01] <SpallsHurgenson> :)
[01:43:58] <Bender> karma - ghostbusters: 1
[01:43:58] <SpallsHurgenson> ghostbusters++
[01:43:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> they've got plenty
[01:43:52] <Bender> karma - spallshurgenson: 8
[01:43:52] <SpallsHurgenson> spallshurgenson--
[01:43:45] <SpallsHurgenson> shouldn't the karma go to ghostbusters instead of me? :)
[01:43:25] <Bender> karma - spallshurgenson: 9
[01:43:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson++ for the GhostBusters quote
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[01:43:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, hard to beat yet i'm still dropping it soon
[01:43:05] <exec> <SpallsHurgenson> "Personally, I liked the website. They gave us money and facilities, we didn't have to produce anything! You've never been out of soylent! You don't know what it's like out there! I've *worked* in the private sector. They expect *results*." :)
[01:43:05] <SpallsHurgenson> s/spu;emt/soylent/
[01:42:49] <prospectacle> hmm, sounds pretty sweet actually
[01:42:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> which i do from my couch
[01:42:39] <SpallsHurgenson> "Personally, I liked the website. They gave us money and facilities, we didn't have to produce anything! You've never been out of spu;emt! You don't know what it's like out there! I've *worked* in the private sector. They expect *results*." :)
[01:42:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp. my current proper job leaves me sitting on my thumb aside from checking monitors 3/5 days
[01:41:39] <prospectacle> I guess, but would it be better than your current proper job?
[01:41:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but then it'd be a proper job, which would make it suck.
[01:40:56] <prospectacle> Well that's what I mean, if you crowdfunded it then you could be paid to work on it more, and other people too
[01:40:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, because i get paid soooo much =P
[01:40:20] <prospectacle> The install guide could be a large part of the project
[01:40:06] <prospectacle> TheMighyBuzzard, true but open source projects can kickstarted, it means they'll do specific dev. they couldn't otherwise afford
[01:40:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> now making an easy install guide... that's beyond anyone's ability.
[01:39:41] <chromas> Consulting for just $299.99 /hr
[01:39:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> take it, install it, use it to your heart's content
[01:39:27] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, make it available so Dice can roll it back into slashdot :) :) :)
[01:39:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's on github right now n has been since we started
[01:38:54] <prospectacle> so are you guys planning to kickstart a version of slashcode for the masses? Sounds like you probably know it better than anyone.
[01:38:22] <prospectacle> nice
[01:35:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> apparently they didn't know or thought it was a good idea that mod_perl cached top level variables and had one feeding back fubar data when you went from the subscriptions page to the messages page.
[01:34:56] <chromas> aw
[01:34:50] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: s/mea/plea/
[01:34:42] <exec> sed enabled for 10#Soylent
[01:34:41] <chromas> ~sed on
[01:34:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> one of em was a fun one though where i had to find something the original slash coders had buggered up.
[01:34:00] <SpallsHurgenson> four typos fixed in three hours :)
[01:33:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> prospectacle, mostly ui issues. typos and such.
[01:33:34] <prospectacle> come back sedbot we need you now more than ever
[01:33:09] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: s/mea/plea/
[01:32:16] <prospectacle> s/not/now/
[01:32:10] <prospectacle> yes you've set a high standard that you'll not be expected to meet every time there are at least four issues and washing up to do
[01:30:56] <SpallsHurgenson> also, we will better be able to set up metrics for measuring future performance :)
[01:30:10] <prospectacle> What were some of the issues? If we know then we can feel the benefits of your mad skills
[01:29:32] <prospectacle> on a roll
[01:22:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> with time for a dinner break and washing up.
[01:22:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> cleared four issues tonight in roughly three hours.
[01:05:59] <SpallsHurgenson> as a Microsoft shareholder, that sounds quite reasonable to me :)
[01:02:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Wants to Patent Immutable Types? - http://sylnt.us - a-request-for-your-help
[00:48:51] <SpallsHurgenson> mad coder, mad coder!
[00:48:47] <prospectacle> what have you done?
[00:48:35] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 52
[00:48:35] <prospectacle> TheMightyBuzzard++
[00:48:04] * TheMightyBuzzard has teh mad skillz
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[00:29:49] <SpallsHurgenson> well, there's always tomorrow's meeting
[00:29:25] <Bender> karma - charter: -1
[00:29:25] <chromas> Charter--
[00:29:17] <chromas> Aw. Still no ipv6
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[00:14:00] <prospectacle> outdoors is unnatural
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[00:10:10] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm pretty sure people of my type aren't meant to spend that much time outdoors
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[00:04:34] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, I think I got sun-poisoning yesterday. Is that a thing? I'm pretty sure I got it.