#Soylent | Logs for 2014-08-28
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[00:04:34] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, I think I got sun-poisoning yesterday. Is that a thing? I'm pretty sure I got it.
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[00:10:10] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm pretty sure people of my type aren't meant to spend that much time outdoors
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[00:14:00] <prospectacle> outdoors is unnatural
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[00:29:17] <chromas> Aw. Still no ipv6
[00:29:25] <chromas> Charter--
[00:29:25] <Bender> karma - charter: -1
[00:29:49] <SpallsHurgenson> well, there's always tomorrow's meeting
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[00:48:04] * TheMightyBuzzard has teh mad skillz
[00:48:35] <prospectacle> TheMightyBuzzard++
[00:48:35] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 52
[00:48:47] <prospectacle> what have you done?
[00:48:51] <SpallsHurgenson> mad coder, mad coder!
[01:02:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Wants to Patent Immutable Types? - http://sylnt.us - a-request-for-your-help
[01:05:59] <SpallsHurgenson> as a Microsoft shareholder, that sounds quite reasonable to me :)
[01:22:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> cleared four issues tonight in roughly three hours.
[01:22:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> with time for a dinner break and washing up.
[01:29:32] <prospectacle> on a roll
[01:30:10] <prospectacle> What were some of the issues? If we know then we can feel the benefits of your mad skills
[01:30:56] <SpallsHurgenson> also, we will better be able to set up metrics for measuring future performance :)
[01:32:10] <prospectacle> yes you've set a high standard that you'll not be expected to meet every time there are at least four issues and washing up to do
[01:32:16] <prospectacle> s/not/now/
[01:33:09] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: s/mea/plea/
[01:33:34] <prospectacle> come back sedbot we need you now more than ever
[01:33:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> prospectacle, mostly ui issues. typos and such.
[01:34:00] <SpallsHurgenson> four typos fixed in three hours :)
[01:34:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> one of em was a fun one though where i had to find something the original slash coders had buggered up.
[01:34:41] <chromas> ~sed on
[01:34:42] <exec> sed enabled for 10#Soylent
[01:34:50] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: s/mea/plea/
[01:34:56] <chromas> aw
[01:35:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> apparently they didn't know or thought it was a good idea that mod_perl cached top level variables and had one feeding back fubar data when you went from the subscriptions page to the messages page.
[01:38:22] <prospectacle> nice
[01:38:54] <prospectacle> so are you guys planning to kickstart a version of slashcode for the masses? Sounds like you probably know it better than anyone.
[01:39:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's on github right now n has been since we started
[01:39:27] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, make it available so Dice can roll it back into slashdot :) :) :)
[01:39:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> take it, install it, use it to your heart's content
[01:39:41] <chromas> Consulting for just $299.99 /hr
[01:40:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> now making an easy install guide... that's beyond anyone's ability.
[01:40:06] <prospectacle> TheMighyBuzzard, true but open source projects can kickstarted, it means they'll do specific dev. they couldn't otherwise afford
[01:40:20] <prospectacle> The install guide could be a large part of the project
[01:40:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, because i get paid soooo much =P
[01:40:56] <prospectacle> Well that's what I mean, if you crowdfunded it then you could be paid to work on it more, and other people too
[01:41:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but then it'd be a proper job, which would make it suck.
[01:41:39] <prospectacle> I guess, but would it be better than your current proper job?
[01:42:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp. my current proper job leaves me sitting on my thumb aside from checking monitors 3/5 days
[01:42:39] <SpallsHurgenson> "Personally, I liked the website. They gave us money and facilities, we didn't have to produce anything! You've never been out of spu;emt! You don't know what it's like out there! I've *worked* in the private sector. They expect *results*." :)
[01:42:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> which i do from my couch
[01:42:49] <prospectacle> hmm, sounds pretty sweet actually
[01:43:05] <SpallsHurgenson> s/spu;emt/soylent/
[01:43:05] <exec> <SpallsHurgenson> "Personally, I liked the website. They gave us money and facilities, we didn't have to produce anything! You've never been out of soylent! You don't know what it's like out there! I've *worked* in the private sector. They expect *results*." :)
[01:43:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, hard to beat yet i'm still dropping it soon
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[01:43:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson++ for the GhostBusters quote
[01:43:25] <Bender> karma - spallshurgenson: 9
[01:43:45] <SpallsHurgenson> shouldn't the karma go to ghostbusters instead of me? :)
[01:43:52] <SpallsHurgenson> spallshurgenson--
[01:43:52] <Bender> karma - spallshurgenson: 8
[01:43:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> they've got plenty
[01:43:58] <SpallsHurgenson> ghostbusters++
[01:43:58] <Bender> karma - ghostbusters: 1
[01:44:01] <SpallsHurgenson> :)
[01:44:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> saved the world twice. that's epic karma
[01:45:00] <pbnjoe> hello soylentils
[01:45:09] <prospectacle> hi pbnjoe
[01:45:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup, yo
[01:45:21] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson found a hole in self-karma protection
[01:45:23] * pbnjoe is happy about today's stuff
[01:45:47] <pbnjoe> namely the store and subs
[01:46:09] <SpallsHurgenson> chromas: evidence of my l33t hax0ring skillz :)
[01:46:13] <prospectacle> did I miss the subs?
[01:46:41] <pbnjoe> immediately under Friends, Foes on the left side
[01:47:29] <prospectacle> ah ha!
[01:47:30] <pbnjoe> think I'm gonna get me a star and be like a fancy ol' Soylent Deputy
[01:47:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, fat cash for us. or at least coffee money assuming i elbow people in the throat to keep them away from my coffee.
[01:47:38] <prospectacle> I was expecting an announcement. probably later
[01:47:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely tomorrow
[01:48:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> some sneaky buggers already spent moneys though
[01:48:24] <pbnjoe> well, I mean, it's visible on the site
[01:48:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[01:49:03] <prospectacle> alrighty then
[01:49:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's in go ahead n use it mode, just not announced yet
[01:49:35] <pbnjoe> big changes in two sites I frequent most today
[01:49:59] <pbnjoe> well, the second one I wouldn't say I frequent most, but lots
[01:50:00] <SpallsHurgenson> ah, hardcoded passwords never get old :) http://news.softpedia.com
[01:50:16] <prospectacle> HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
[01:50:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> some brilliant coding there
[01:50:51] <prospectacle> I'm am finally part of the elite
[01:50:58] <chromas> from the mr-potatohead!-mr-potato-head!-back-doors-are-not-secrets! dept
[01:51:16] <pbnjoe> wait, softpedia is more than just a site that wraps installers with crap?
[01:51:41] <SpallsHurgenson> the merger is still going through http://consumerist.com
[01:51:47] <chromas> it's just like c|net without the pipe
[01:51:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> scuse me while i go find something of the baked goods family to gnaw on.
[01:52:03] <prospectacle> TMB how many subscribers so far?
[01:52:21] <pbnjoe> to continue on what I was saying before, GOG is way different today
[01:52:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> best guess, half a dozen.
[01:52:43] <SpallsHurgenson> MovieGOG!
[01:52:59] <pbnjoe> massive UI overhaul, the addition of movies, and the drop of 35 games (which can be purchased til monday with deep discount)
[01:53:05] * prospectacle stands back and admires his shiny new star
[01:53:11] <pbnjoe> dangit SpallsHurgenson ya stole my thunder
[01:53:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> were four last mrcoolbp checked a couple hours ago. but again, not announced yet so you gotta notice it.
[01:53:43] <SpallsHurgenson> I hate GOG. I keep buying games I already own just so I don't have to pull out the CDs :)
[01:55:02] <SpallsHurgenson> unfortunately, I couldn't make myself buy the Gothic games a fifth time; even I have limits :)
[01:55:23] <pbnjoe> yeah today I will be splurging on things
[01:55:34] <pbnjoe> GOG games, a subscription, and maybe some swag
[01:56:13] <SpallsHurgenson> <sigh> All I bought today was plastic garbage bags and cat-litter :-/
[01:56:33] <pbnjoe> that can still be fun
[01:56:36] <pbnjoe> if you've got an imagination
[01:56:47] <SpallsHurgenson> remind me not to come to any of your parties
[01:58:04] <pbnjoe> 365-page? that's an interesting way to put it
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[02:01:28] <pbnjoe> fun, sun, shiny new sub
[02:01:55] <SpallsHurgenson> brb afk and other initialisms. gotta go pick up a friend in need
[02:02:12] <pbnjoe> ttyl, gl
[02:07:52] <pbnjoe> TheMightyBuzzard, who's the one that manages subs? Before they're announced, someone should fix the typo "subsrciption" in the sub info :)
[02:08:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> pbnjoe, that would likely be me.
[02:08:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> may already be fixed though. i went through a laundry list of fixes mrcoolbp pointed out this evening.
[02:09:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[02:09:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 687
[02:09:53] <pbnjoe> *headshake* I just subbed 5min ago, it appears in the message telling you when the sub expires
[02:09:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not seeing that particular typo though
[02:09:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhhh
[02:10:00] <pbnjoe> I Ctrl+F5'd to be sure
[02:11:38] <Lagg> Heh, did anyone make adjustments to the mod system TheMightyBuzzard
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[02:14:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> Lagg, not yet. been working on UI stuff myself. clearing some low hanging fruit.
[02:14:55] <Lagg> It looks like someone went on a downmod spree. I had 50 karma and it's suddenly at 38.
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[02:15:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> pbnjoe, fixed and merged. will show live when the rest of the typo fixes go live tomorrow.
[02:15:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh and gracias
[02:15:23] <pbnjoe> :)
[02:15:23] <juggs> Lagg, ouch
[02:15:44] <Lagg> Wonder who I pissed off, perhaps a bible thumper, maybe someone who thinks I don't dislike systemd enough, who knows \_(o.O)_/
[02:16:24] <juggs> Aww how touching - I gained another friend :D
[02:16:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> Lagg, see, it's a good thing i'm a dev and not an admin type. i'm of the mind that modbombs should be dealt with with extreme prejudice.
[02:16:58] <Lagg> To be honest though because of all the disturbing things I've seen within the last few years given how much I've started involving myself with youtube (I have a video project) and such I'm okay with this. I'm starting to enter a mindset where I like pissing off these mouthbreathing jackasses
[02:17:00] <prospectacle> Lagg++ this is the only karma that matters
[02:17:00] <Bender> karma - lagg: 5
[02:17:26] <Lagg> It's not one particular thing either, just a combination of things.
[02:17:39] <Lagg> prospectacle: As long as IRC loves me I have the powar
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[02:18:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod and you'll make it back shortly enough anyway. max karma is easy.
[02:18:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> fun to burn sometimes too.
[02:18:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin Bytram|away
[02:18:26] <Lagg> and honestly if people waste their mod points on me it means that other people who make similar posts that try to be scientific or blunt will be spared them
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[02:18:54] <Lagg> That's why I like the slashcode system of internet points so much. It's so self-balancing
[02:19:05] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: good morning!
[02:19:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> Lagg, it really honks me off that good comments may not be seen because of bad downmods.
[02:19:11] <Bytram> Lagg: hi there!
[02:19:13] <Lagg> Since it's exactly 38 someone just wasted all 12 points on me
[02:19:28] <pbnjoe> 12?
[02:19:36] <Lagg> Oops, meant 10
[02:19:41] <Lagg> I was at 48 before actually
[02:19:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, do you possess the hammer of justice Re: modbombs?
[02:19:45] <pbnjoe> aha
[02:19:57] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I don't think so.
[02:20:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, me either and i think pj and nc are asleep.
[02:20:18] <Bytram> do you have the power to fix a bug on production? I get this e-mail every five minutes:
[02:20:19] <Bytram> SoylentNews Slashd Error Alert!
[02:20:19] <Bytram> SLASHD line 165 produced the following error:
[02:20:19] <Bytram> process_file_queue.pl odd exit (status 25, signal 0)
[02:20:23] <Lagg> http://soylentnews.org me asking for reproducible results
[02:20:27] <Lagg> Am clearly trolling
[02:20:57] <Lagg> http://soylentnews.org expanding upon something the summary vaguely touches upon, clearly redundant
[02:20:59] <Bytram> and... since there is now a bug with accessing preferences... I can't seem to go in and turn off the switch that sends them to me.
[02:21:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, nope. they made me take admin on chillax earlier for some reason but i'm average joe user on prod
[02:21:12] <Lagg> I also seem to have quite a following that likes to downmod my stuff as "overrated"
[02:21:30] <Lagg> I take that as a compliment though, it means that it was sufficiently high in the first place.
[02:21:42] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nod nod; I saw that... I think that was kind of a probationary period thingy, with the thought that at some point, you'd get full access on prod.
[02:21:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, hold shift hit reload
[02:21:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not a very sticky bug
[02:22:07] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I tried Ctr+F5 earlier in the day with no luck... I'll try it.
[02:22:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> gods i hope not. i ENJOY being a dev.
[02:22:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> just stay off the subscription page for the moment. fix is in but not yet on prod.
[02:23:00] <Bytram> !woop
[02:23:00] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[02:23:29] <Bytram> I just reset the (admin) option: Daily Site Stats from [e-mail] to [No Messages]
[02:23:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[02:25:43] <Bytram> hmmm, the refresh thingy only seems to work once. still, I *think* I got it turned off... I'll find out soon!
[02:25:44] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[02:25:44] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 53
[02:26:06] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: four more and we can call you Heinz
[02:27:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> aright folks. been a busy day for me. going to crash and have a nice, restful day tomorrow.
[02:27:51] <Bytram> okay, that *should* have turned off the noise, but the problem remains that the site is complaining about something going 'wrong' every five minutes.
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[02:28:12] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: thanks for all your help!
[02:28:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, ya, i have no idea on that. can't view the file queue to find out why.
[02:28:27] * Bytram glances at his much emptier inbox and smiles
[02:29:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: np; I think I ran into this once before; paulej72 knew exactly what to do but I can't seem to recall right now.
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[02:29:18] <Bytram> what we really need is a separate toggle for where to send system alerts!
[02:29:32] <Bytram> ~weather TheMightyBuzzard
[02:29:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> no doubt. they should be going to predefined addresses
[02:29:40] <exec> weather for 10Ada, Ada Municipal Airport, OK, United States at 8:53 pm (CDT) ~ 36 mins ago: temp: 1028°C (82.4°F), dp: 1021°C (69.8°F), press: 101016.3 mb (+0.3 mb/18 mins), humid: 1065%, wind: 109.6 km/h (6 mph) @ 10150°
[02:30:06] <Bytram> ugh, hot AND sticky... hope you can get a good night's sleep nonetheless!
[02:30:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ac set to 65F
[02:30:25] <Bytram> LOL!
[02:30:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> perfect sleeping temperature
[02:30:43] <Bytram> sleep well my friend!
[02:30:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite
[02:30:50] <ciri> nite TheMightyBuzzard
[02:30:58] <pbnjoe> night
[02:31:00] <Bytram> and with my inbox knocked into submission, I think it's that time for me, too.
[02:31:05] <Bytram> g'night everyone!
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[02:31:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Audio Reveals Pause in Gunfire When Michael Brown Was Shot - http://sylnt.us - something-doesn't-sound-right-here
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[02:49:50] <prospectacle> ..back
[02:49:57] <prospectacle> hi jamesnz
[02:49:57] <ciri> hey whats up prospectacle
[02:50:17] <JamesNZ> Afternoon prospectacle \o How goes it?
[02:50:23] <prospectacle> good and you?
[02:50:25] <prospectacle> just found out the subscriptions are secretly up if you're interested
[02:50:32] <prospectacle> log in and look at the left side bar
[02:51:17] <JamesNZ> Ah, I see.
[02:51:40] * JamesNZ is pretty good, gonna start on an assignment soon
[02:52:56] <prospectacle> oh yeah what have you been assigned?
[02:53:20] <Popeidol> '365-page subscription to soylentnews'
[02:54:08] <JamesNZ> prospectacle: I think I've got to plot the degree distribution of a graph, will need to take another look at it.
[02:54:15] <Popeidol> is that a typo or are subscriptions actually by the page somehow?
[02:54:32] <prospectacle> lol
[02:54:33] <ciri> rofl
[02:54:42] <prospectacle> I'm guessing typo, didn't notice that
[02:54:53] <prospectacle> I hope it doesn't run out after I view 365 pages
[02:55:27] <Popeidol> that works 5.47c per page
[02:56:00] <Popeidol> thank goodness the internet as a whole wasn't that much
[02:56:04] <prospectacle> lo
[02:56:05] <prospectacle> l
[02:56:06] <Popeidol> I'd be in so much debt to wikipedia
[02:56:13] <prospectacle> wikipedia++
[02:56:13] <Bender> karma - wikipedia: 1
[02:56:22] <prospectacle> lots of people make money off the web, but most of the best stuff is free
[02:58:55] <prospectacle> although you ever notice how jimmy wales looks a lot like hank scorpio
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[03:12:38] <Tecnomo> Any one where the Soylent coffee cup are made ?
[03:12:59] <paulej72> Ok we got some free bonus upgrades to the site in order to fix some outstanding bugs. Hell if I am going to cherry pick a bug fix and leave a new feature off.
[03:13:27] <paulej72> Can anyone figure out the new feature.
[03:14:02] <juggs> paulej72, automatic page refresh on 503 error paulej72 ?
[03:14:05] * juggs ducks
[03:14:12] <paulej72> lol
[03:14:17] <chromas> We need to be able to SedBot the comments
[03:15:16] <juggs> Tecnomo - I ~think~ the base mugs are made in China then customised / additionally glazed locally (zazzle has fulfillment centres all over the place it seems).
[03:15:24] <paulej72> I really do hate how unstable the site is after a reload of slash
[03:16:56] <prospectacle> Tecnomo, I think the basic mugs are made in china, then custom-printed and shipped from america
[03:17:20] <prospectacle> oops juggs beat me to it
[03:17:41] <juggs> Tecnomo, real world example as received.... https://imgur.com
[03:17:42] <monopoly> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[03:18:28] <juggs> Tecnomo, and another one already being put to good use https://imgur.com
[03:18:29] <monopoly> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[03:19:23] <Tecnomo> Do you know what country they are made in ?
[03:19:53] <prospectacle> tecnomo, mine was shipped from america but on the bottom it says made in china
[03:20:16] <prospectacle> using your sherlock holmes like deductive powers, you may be able to come up with an explanation. your guess is as good as mine
[03:20:51] <prospectacle> that second img is my mug. hooray my mug is famous
[03:21:37] <juggs> hehe - had to paw through my browser history to find that
[03:21:56] <Tecnomo> Thanks
[03:24:58] <SpallsHurgenson> <ploof>
[03:26:37] <SpallsHurgenson> is there MILK in that coffee? real men take it black!
[03:27:41] <prospectacle> real men don't need coffee at all. I'm an office workers
[03:29:30] <SpallsHurgenson> real office workers snort cocaine :)
[03:31:03] * prospectacle is a fake office worker
[03:32:35] <SpallsHurgenson> my god, it's true! you're just made up of paperclips and PostIt notes!
[03:32:58] <juggs> the embodiment of Clippy!! aaarcgh
[03:33:43] <prospectacle> it looks like you're trying to compose an irc message, would you like some help
[03:34:13] <SpallsHurgenson> you know what is sad? how many regular users have told me they MISS clippy
[03:34:45] <SpallsHurgenson> (and that damn dog that appeared in XP when you did a search)
[03:35:21] <Tecnomo> I liked the wizard.
[03:35:41] <SpallsHurgenson> careful, I think that's a bannable offense around here
[03:36:47] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, install them a bonzi buddy - I'm sure they'll thank you :D
[03:38:43] <SpallsHurgenson> tempting :)
[03:46:17] <Popeidol> somebody needs to come up with an open-source bonzibuddy server
[03:46:26] <Popeidol> since the originals went down the client isn't too useful\
[03:46:42] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently somebody had hacked together an adware free version of the client, at least according to wikipedia
[03:47:27] <juggs> not much use without its backend servers I wouldn't have thought. Would it even run on recent Win versions?
[03:47:57] <juggs> Perhaps there is a need for a SoylentBuddy :D
[03:48:05] <SpallsHurgenson> honestly, I wouldn't know. My only interaction with the software was to remove it, so I have no idea what it really did :)
[03:49:19] <SpallsHurgenson> but the Internet assures me it was purest evil
[03:49:29] <juggs> aye
[03:49:54] <SpallsHurgenson> the Internet is never mistaken about things like that
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[04:10:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hackers Target Norwegian Oil Industry - http://sylnt.us - known-unknowns
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[04:19:28] <Popeidol> I have a copy of bonzibuddy lying around at home
[04:20:10] <SpallsHurgenson> while I have no direct evidence of this, I am relatively certain I have a copy of it on every one of my relatives computers :)
[04:20:14] <Popeidol> came across it on a win98 box I was scrapping and decided it deserved a chance to shine again
[04:20:44] <Popeidol> I wonder if it works in wine
[04:21:39] <SpallsHurgenson> WINE Error 0x0000e: WTF? Just, just... no!
[04:31:26] <SpallsHurgenson> we need more "user is a bloody idiot" error codes
[04:35:41] <prospectacle> That's the only thing my error codes ever say
[04:36:05] <prospectacle> Both as a writer of software and (oddly enough) a user of other people's software
[04:37:24] <SpallsHurgenson> must make for some /interesting/ support calls :)
[04:38:29] <mrcoolbp> !todo
[04:38:29] <Bender> todo for mrcoolbp: 1) make sure someone else has privs on every system 2) contact StarTrek Reboot orgs 3) social-media/user recruitment strategy 4) make helpful graphics for editing interface 5) site redesign contest 6) ask NCommander if we still need all-staff meetings 7) badges for # of accepted submissions 8) warrant canary 9) encrypted dropbox SN account 10) test - 1 more
[04:38:31] <mrcoolbp> !more
[04:38:33] <Bender> flood-protect for board meetings 11) hammer linode for a better deal 12) check dev WRT poll+story 13) document store maintenence procedures on wiki 14) double-check all items have "Show Customize" unchecked 15) embroidered hat 16) t-shirt: "I don't always RTFA, but when I do, I read it in sourcecode 17) Update staff-list 18) zazzle "about" page
[04:38:42] <mrcoolbp> shit
[04:39:03] <mrcoolbp> !done 10
[04:39:03] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[04:39:22] <mrcoolbp> !done 13
[04:39:22] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[04:42:35] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm
[04:42:37] <SpallsHurgenson> !todo
[04:42:37] <Bender> todo for spallshurgenson: 1) plan to take over the world 2) go to bed 3) get to set policy for the nation 4) take revenge on all IRC bots
[04:43:29] <SpallsHurgenson> 0 things completed. I need better time management
[04:45:58] <juggs> !todo double-check all items have "Show Customize" unchecked
[04:45:58] <Bender> todo item 5 added
[04:46:27] <juggs> !todo
[04:46:27] <Bender> todo for juggs: 1) rss-bot wiki page 2) swag about blurb 3) change email addy on list 4) don't believe the hype, grab a systemd distro and wrestle it 5) double-check all items have "Show Customize" unchecked
[04:46:39] <juggs> !done 3
[04:46:39] <Bender> 1 item deleted
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[04:46:51] <juggs> !done 4
[04:46:51] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[04:48:21] <chromas> Systemd++
[04:48:21] <Bender> karma - systemd: -1
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[04:48:38] <SpallsHurgenson> !todo grab /something/ and wrestle with it
[04:48:38] <Bender> todo item 5 added
[04:48:57] <chromas> systemctl start rage
[04:49:39] <chromas> What kind of revenge on irc bots? Need some help?
[04:49:44] <juggs> !todo
[04:49:44] <Bender> todo for juggs: 1) rss-bot wiki page 2) swag about blurb 3) don't believe the hype, grab a systemd distro and wrestle it
[04:49:48] <juggs> mofo
[04:49:51] <juggs> !done 3
[04:49:51] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[04:50:01] <juggs> !todo double-check all items have "Show Customize" unchecked
[04:50:01] <Bender> todo item 3 added
[04:53:18] <prospectacle> !todo buy some swag
[04:53:18] <Bender> todo item 2 added
[04:53:23] <prospectacle> !todo subscribe
[04:53:23] <Bender> todo item 3 added
[04:53:25] <prospectacle> !todo
[04:53:27] <Bender> todo for prospectacle: 1) learn how to use todo list in irc 2) buy some swag 3) subscribe
[04:53:35] <prospectacle> !done 1
[04:53:35] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[04:53:38] <prospectacle> !done 2
[04:53:39] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[04:53:40] <prospectacle> !done 3
[04:53:43] <Bender> no items deleted
[04:53:46] <prospectacle> oh
[04:53:48] <prospectacle> !done 1
[04:53:48] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[04:54:03] <mrcoolbp> lol
[04:54:06] <mrcoolbp> nice work buddy
[04:54:18] <SpallsHurgenson> !todo goto item 1
[04:54:18] <Bender> todo item 6 added
[04:55:42] <mrcoolbp> Spalls are you trying to set it on infinite loop?
[04:57:07] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe :)
[05:00:44] <mrcoolbp> you bastage
[05:00:59] <SpallsHurgenson> I am having teh l33t h4x0r skilz
[05:06:30] <mrcoolbp> ah
[05:06:35] * mrcoolbp backs away slowly
[05:07:49] <prospectacle> mrcoolbp how many have discovered and used the secret subscription so far?
[05:09:57] <prospectacle> if you don't mind me asking
[05:10:39] <mrcoolbp> oh I can answer that
[05:10:41] <mrcoolbp> sec
[05:10:53] <prospectacle> legend
[05:11:45] <mrcoolbp> okay, so I'm taking out the staff memebers from this figure
[05:12:02] <mrcoolbp> 5 people figure it out and payed already
[05:12:53] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: yourself included
[05:12:57] <mrcoolbp> = )
[05:13:14] <mrcoolbp> wait
[05:13:16] <prospectacle> those sneaky bastards
[05:13:24] <mrcoolbp> that figure is incorrect
[05:13:47] <prospectacle> oh
[05:13:57] * mrcoolbp does maths
[05:13:58] <SpallsHurgenson> shame about it only being paypal payments. I'm not getting near /that/ with a 27.387" foot pole
[05:14:25] <mrcoolbp> spalls: you can do credit-via-paypal, but they are still the middle man at current
[05:15:02] <mrcoolbp> spalls: though I'm working on getting a crypto service integrated, we haven't actuallly started working on implementation in any way
[05:15:17] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but they still demand a paypal account. might as well ask me to sign up for facebook while your at it :)
[05:15:31] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, what would your preferred way to pay be?
[05:15:42] <SpallsHurgenson> pennies launched by catapult, of course
[05:15:44] <mrcoolbp> spalls: I thought we had a had a CC option
[05:15:55] <mrcoolbp> looks like we didn't get that for launch
[05:16:25] <mrcoolbp> spalls: it'll be an option eventually, that's a promise, don't have a timeline for you yet
[05:16:33] <mrcoolbp> !todo CC option for Sub payments
[05:16:33] <Bender> todo item 16 added
[05:16:45] * SpallsHurgenson suggests catapults as a solution to every problem :)
[05:19:41] <juggs> I swear PP didn't used to make you sign up an account to make a CC payment :( I'm not familiar with US banking, but here it would be trivial to set up cash deposit with unique userid reference if cheque or CC tracking were a concern.
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[05:24:08] <prospectacle> spalls, pretty sure you can paypal without an account
[05:24:20] <prospectacle> you just use your cc details
[05:24:22] <prospectacle> oops
[05:25:44] * prospectacle should read all the way to the end before writing
[05:26:03] <chromas> it's okay; he left anyway
[05:26:12] <mrcoolbp> lol
[05:26:12] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[05:49:56] <Popeidol> oh nice, you can optionally hide the subscription star
[05:50:23] <Popeidol> (presumably after you flaunt it a bit)
[05:50:53] <prospectacle> no doubt
[05:51:16] <prospectacle> maybe it will also help advertise subscriptions to people who see the start and think "oh what's that where do I get one?"
[05:51:23] <prospectacle> s/start/star/
[05:51:24] <exec> <prospectacle> maybe it will also help advertise subscriptions to people who see the star and think "oh what's that where do I get one?"
[05:51:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intellectual Property Casebook Now Available as a Free Download - http://sylnt.us - some-good-news
[05:52:44] <juggs> yar, that was requested. I think some thought it might be gauche or elitist or some such to wear a star around the place. Good to have the choice :)
[06:05:23] <chromas> I think there was a certain group of people who had a thing about wearing stars around the place
[06:13:26] <juggs> ahh - I think zara (fashion outlet / brand) - fell foul of that recently. Launched a blue striped toddler's shirt with a yellow star on it. Admittedly on closer inspection the badge did state "Sheriff" - but understandably certain segments of the population were far from impressed. Think I picked up that kerfuffle on BBC uk.
[06:18:14] <chromas> I did Nazi that
[06:18:35] <chromas> Actually, I think I did but that ruins the joke
[06:29:59] <chromas> Shouldn't the unobtanium stuff be expensive? $100 keyfob—because I care thiiiiiis much!
[06:32:24] <juggs> crikry - isn't it pricey enough?
[06:32:37] <chromas> It's unobtanium
[06:33:37] <chromas> Need to find a food supplier and get customized candy bars
[06:34:02] <juggs> Buy 100 and give them out to friends and acquaintances - doubly whammy.
[06:34:11] <chromas> I s'pose then we're stepping into trademark issues. Well, we're the better Soylent, dammit!
[06:34:28] * chromas doesn't have that many friend
[06:35:48] <chromas> s/that m//
[06:35:49] <exec> <chromas> doesn't have any friend
[06:35:51] <chromas> :D
[06:37:00] <juggs> I'm not sure I even want to consider the paperwork required to sell food in the USA. I would like to see some funky usb storage stuff though. Pipedot's metal fob thing looked nice. We should probably source directly from China for something like that though rather than go via zazzle.
[06:39:20] <chromas> I'd think if you did someting foody, you'd've them do all the handling
[06:40:22] <chromas> We need lots of other stuff; it could be like Newegg's Rosewill brand
[06:40:24] <juggs> Take one aluminium billet - CNC out a cavity - install USB storage chippery - done. Replace Au for Al for the hyper-bling option. Engrave SN logo on outside, encrust with diamonds etc.
[06:40:43] <chromas> Soylent wifi adapters, Soylent keyboards, Soylent mufflers
[06:40:54] <juggs> lol
[06:41:34] <chromas> Should also have an asininely priced tee shirt, "I paid $150 and all I got was this Soylent tee shirt"
[06:42:23] <juggs> Perhaps we should have a name you price option.
[06:42:28] <juggs> your*
[06:42:34] <chromas> crap, I had to go look up that Rosewill name on the internets, now I see lots of toys I have to look through
[06:43:20] <juggs> yes yes - you absolutely ~must~ look through them.
[06:43:37] <chromas> They're so shiny and/or matte black
[06:43:50] <chromas> Power supplies without dangling wires. What a world!
[06:44:53] <chromas> Do people still do bumper stickers?
[06:45:42] <chromas> Soylent News with a dot code that points to the site. Also graffiti stickers
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[06:50:11] <juggs> dot code == QR code? avoid those like the plague personally.
[06:51:40] <chromas> it's a superset
[06:51:56] <chromas> Don't like black & white?
[06:52:47] <chromas> archlinux++
[06:52:48] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 39
[06:53:56] <chromas> pants-- # somebody turned the summer back on
[06:53:56] <Bender> karma - pants: -1
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[07:10:59] <crutchy> coffee++
[07:10:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 688
[07:11:51] <crutchy> smell_of_msg_infested_packet_pasta++
[07:11:51] <Bender> karma - smell_of_msg_infested_packet_pasta: 1
[07:13:12] <crutchy> hurling_toilet_bowls_on_a_budget++
[07:13:12] <Bender> karma - hurling_toilet_bowls_on_a_budget: 1
[07:17:16] <SirFinkus> its been a while since I've watched tv, and I almost want to take up smoking because of all these "truth" commercials
[07:17:45] <chromas> Hair conditioner and body lotion ads are where it's at
[07:24:58] <juggs> chromas is actually a bot right?
[07:25:26] <chromas> How does chromas is actually a bot right make you feel, juggs?
[07:25:27] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[07:25:45] <juggs> :P
[07:28:55] <SirFinkus> guy in a commercial jumps over a bench: "do not attempt"
[07:31:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Commuting by Private Transport Linked to Higher BMI & Body Fat - http://sylnt.us - driving-to-the-station
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[07:34:32] <juggs> SirFinkus, ha "whatever you do, do not try to live a life and under no circumstance allow the TV to be unpowered. Always keep the remote control within easy reach. This is for your own good.
[07:34:52] <SirFinkus> I don't appear to have missed much
[07:34:55] <juggs> is it me or is it stifling in here?
[07:35:34] <arti> yes.
[07:36:08] <chromas> sudo systemctl start party
[07:37:04] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[07:37:05] <monopoly> ^ 03Andrew W.K. - Party Hard - YouTube
[07:44:42] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[07:44:42] <Bender> karma - fedora: 4
[07:46:45] <SirFinkus> I do have beer, french fries, and homemade ranch dressing if anyone actually does want to party
[07:47:28] <SirFinkus> primo uncut shit
[07:47:32] * juggs eyes the ranch dressing suspiciously
[07:48:31] <chromas> homemade_dressing++
[07:48:31] <Bender> karma - homemade_dressing: 1
[07:48:42] <juggs> when did "eye" become a verb?
[07:48:49] <chromas> many a year ago
[07:49:04] <SirFinkus> been a verb forever I think
[07:49:24] <SirFinkus> anyway, this ranch dressing absolutely does not have any semen in it
[07:49:47] * chromas takes a taste....takes another taste.......one more to be sure...
[07:49:48] <juggs> SirFinkus, I think "forever" may be stretching it a tad.
[07:50:29] <SirFinkus> forever as most people understand it
[07:50:43] * chromas reboots
[07:50:46] <juggs> 2 nanoseconds?
[07:50:46] <ciri> 3
[07:50:56] <juggs> 4
[07:51:02] <juggs> bitch
[07:51:25] <SirFinkus> there are a number or retarded verbs though
[07:52:01] * chromas verbs verbs
[07:52:03] <juggs> verbs for retardation?
[07:52:07] <SirFinkus> I can't remember any examples atm though
[07:52:12] <SirFinkus> of retarded verbs
[07:52:30] <juggs> to slow
[07:52:34] <SirFinkus> sorry, oatis happened
[07:53:20] <SirFinkus> so us navy ad, 80% of people live near water
[07:53:24] <SirFinkus> seems like an implied threat
[07:54:10] <SirFinkus> apparently an am crunchwrap is the breakfast of my dreams
[07:54:12] <juggs> and the 20% that didn't live near water perished soon after.
[07:54:30] <juggs> dessication is a problem
[07:55:17] <juggs> gtg beanfun MLD etc.
[07:55:49] <SirFinkus> desiccation? http://imgur.com
[07:55:50] <monopoly> ^ 03The seriousness of California's drought - Imgur
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[08:00:13] <chromas> well it's dry; now's the time to burn it all down
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[08:12:21] <SirFinkus> The only way to fix it is to flush it all away
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[11:01:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:01:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 689
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[11:40:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, if we're going to run political stories, we should have a politics category for submissions.
[11:48:28] <prospectacle> yeah the categories could use a small overhaul at some point
[11:51:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima slap an issue up for that and regular moderation overhaul right now.
[12:02:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Senator Wants All Cops to Wear Cameras - http://sylnt.us - it-wasn't-me
[12:08:39] * chromas just accidentally discovered killall5
[12:13:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> how'd you manage that?
[12:13:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:13:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 690
[12:13:29] <chromas> I wannted a killall for something or another and I guess I tab completed
[12:13:36] <chromas> Not sure why killall isn't there
[12:13:55] <chromas> anyway, I was root, so now most things died. I can try to log in but it's so slow it times out
[12:14:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly never heard of killall5
[12:14:43] <chromas> Looks like arch doesn't have it
[12:15:11] <chromas> not really useful when you have...
[12:15:13] <chromas> systemd++
[12:15:13] <Bender> karma - systemd: 0
[12:16:32] <chromas> kernel's still running fine so my packets get through but no dns
[12:16:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> reboot
[12:17:10] <chromas> About to. Here comes the irc withdrawal…
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[12:44:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:44:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 691
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[12:49:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, crutchy_
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[12:52:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, all better?
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[12:54:10] <chromas> yep
[12:55:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> need more irc activity or i'm going to have to break down and write code.
[12:55:15] <chromas> Plus I rearranged some stuff
[12:55:18] <chromas> no!!!
[12:55:35] <chromas> ~summon many bots
[12:55:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, not feeling the muse this AM but there are probably some bugs that need fixing.
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[12:57:10] <chromas> wtf how can suse not have ii
[12:57:23] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:57:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 692
[12:57:29] <Bytram> good morning all!
[12:57:31] <chromas> Guess it's compiling time
[12:57:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram++
[12:57:34] <Bender> karma - bytram: 18
[12:57:36] <ar> coffee---
[12:57:38] <ar> coffee--
[12:57:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 691
[12:57:40] <chromas> ar++
[12:57:40] <Bender> karma - ar: 4
[12:57:53] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: well! thansk!!!
[12:58:01] <Bytram> umm, what was that for?
[12:58:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, wisdom of the ages. (coffee++)
[12:58:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, ar
[12:58:33] <Bytram> lol
[12:58:33] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[12:58:42] <Bytram> aka 'Liquid Sunshine'
[12:58:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, oh, fixed all your issues cept one last night and paulej72 fixed that one.
[12:58:56] <Bytram> !whoup coffee
[12:58:56] <Bender> uppers of coffee are: crutchy: 356, TheMightyBuzzard: 183, Blackmoore: 73, Bytram: 50, chromas: 17, mrcoolbp: 15, MrBluze: 15, crutchy_: 13, arti: 12, TheMightyLaptop: 10, TK: 10, mechanicjay: 9, AndyTheAbsurd: 8, mattie_p: 5, Bytram|away: 4, juggs: 3, TheMightyBuzzard|Book: 2, Blackmoore|afk: 2, paulej72: 2, exec: 2, Bytram|afk: 2, monopoly: 2, prospectacle: 2, SoyCow7650: - 1 more
[12:59:11] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nod nod; saw the github emails
[12:59:48] <Bytram> hmm, I wonder if there is anything on github for the disappearing choices on the messages page.
[12:59:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like easy issues. they make me look productive.
[13:00:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, already fixed that one too.
[13:00:21] <Bytram> !woop
[13:00:21] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[13:00:25] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[13:00:25] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 54
[13:00:38] <Bytram> what was wrong?
[13:00:57] <Bytram> and... fixed, but is it on the main site yet?
[13:01:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> that was the fun one to track down. wasn't even our bug either. was one left over from the original slash team.
[13:01:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> not yet, NC was gonna get that and the others all bundled over to live this AM. or he was going to have PJ do it. unclear.
[13:02:11] <Bytram> oh goody! A primordial bug!
[13:02:43] <Bytram> pj is kinda busy with his move this w/e ... don't know how much time he'll have avail. :(
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[13:02:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh right
[13:02:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly NC then
[13:02:57] <Bytram> nd nod
[13:03:18] <Bytram> btw, you wouldn't haappen to have super mod point powers on prod, would you?
[13:03:26] <Bytram> or, failing that, know who would?
[13:03:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> have the publish date showing for users' submissions as well but it's waiting on a merge.
[13:03:57] <Bytram> seems like someone actually did use all 10 of their mod points to downmod 1 user.
[13:04:14] <nick> :|
[13:04:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, in fact i have not a clue. my guess would be NCommander and mrcoolbp.
[13:04:51] <nick> think i have modpoints
[13:05:12] <nick> not suermodpoints but i do have some if a correction needs to be made
[13:05:12] <Bytram> nick: can u pls check and let me know?
[13:05:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know what, i need to write in a slash daemon to check for that and reverse the mods
[13:05:19] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:05:20] <Bytram> pm me?
[13:05:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> how many you think qualifies as a mod-bomb?
[13:05:47] <ciri> you talking to me?
[13:06:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> eat my ass, ciri
[13:07:01] <nick> best response to ciri in recent memory
[13:07:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> right off the top of my head, i'm thinking >4 vs the same person = modbomb and needs reversed.
[13:08:26] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I've added ciri to my ignore-list; viva la difference!
[13:08:54] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: automagically? or queue up a page for someone to review and okay it?
[13:08:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> tried that but i keep losing my ignore list. going to write a script that insults it every time it speaks.
[13:08:59] <Bytram> brb
[13:09:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, automagically. either part of the code run when someone clicks moderate or as a slashd job run every 10m or so.
[13:10:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> really doesn't matter if the mods are legit, if you're spending half your points downmodding one person you're doing moderation wrong.
[13:13:44] <TK> Is there a mod points blacklist?
[13:14:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that i see offhand
[13:14:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> harder to search the db than the filesystem though.
[13:16:20] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: maybe make the antimodbomb value a system variable?
[13:16:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, was thinking m1_modbomb_threshold
[13:16:53] <Bytram> and, I'd sooner see it set to a higher value than just 4.
[13:17:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why i was saying >4
[13:17:25] <Bytram> for most users, 5 would prolly be fine, but I could see an admin needing to clean out some spam... that could get 'interesting'
[13:17:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> half your points on one user is excessive
[13:17:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, admins should be immune period.
[13:18:35] <Bytram> so, if you are not an admin (of some sort; tbd) AND you have spent more than m1_modbomb_threshold downmodding someone, undo
[13:18:38] <Bytram> brb
[13:20:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> undo, zero the rest of their mod points, and blacklist from getting mod points for a period of time would be best i think.
[13:21:02] <prospectacle> Well would it be better to warn people that they can't (and shouldn't) mod-bomb, rather than catch and punish them for trying what appears to be an allowed (if rude) use of the system
[13:21:10] <chromas> also a wagging finger animated gif
[13:21:32] <prospectacle> I mean if you're rude in a comment you can get downmodded, or responded to, but you're not banned from commenting for a week.
[13:22:03] <prospectacle> Also it could potentially be an accident, you might be downmodding the comments, not really looking at who is the author
[13:22:44] <nick> if i looked who it was, i wouldn't keep moddin up TheMightyBuzzard ;)
[13:23:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[13:24:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> prospectacle, ideally this would come with an article on the site describing the penalty for mod-bombing but not specifying the threshold.
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[13:27:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll write it up for the OSS project, code in an off switch for the behavior, and let someone else decide if we want to use it on SN.
[13:28:33] <prospectacle> TheMightyBuzzard, i think if it's easy to detect, you can just enforce it beforehand rather than punish and undo it afterwards.
[13:28:45] <prospectacle> For example you don't punish people for trying to put <script> in a comment, you just strip it out
[13:29:14] <prospectacle> Some things are harder to detect, and so you need punishments as a disincentive, but if you can easily catch it before it happens, then punishments seem unnecessary
[13:29:37] <prospectacle> That's just my opinion, I'll leave it in your capable hands.
[13:29:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> prospectacle, mmm... if they're trying to use moderation incorrectly for personal reasons, they aren't the type of people we need moderating IMO.
[13:29:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, ain't my decision either.
[13:30:07] <prospectacle> well intent is harder to establish
[13:30:32] <Bytram> and, as soon as they get feedback when they downmod 5 that it's undone; they'll try 4, and then ...
[13:30:35] <prospectacle> It may be person X (who they're modbombing) was very active and controversial that day
[13:30:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really. it's pretty easy to see if they've spent half their mod points on comments on 2+ stories by one person.
[13:30:59] <Bytram> so, though it may officially be unpublished, it wouldn't take long to find the threshold
[13:31:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. so probably a slashd job then.
[13:31:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Federally Funded Pathogen Labs to Pause Work and Inventory Dangerous Agents - http://sylnt.us - tell-us-what-you-got
[13:31:41] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: is there a way to block someone from getting mod points?
[13:31:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, probably but i have yet to see it.
[13:32:01] <Bytram> just had a case where someone used all 10 of their points to downmod one person 10 times.
[13:32:09] <chromas> Adjust the threshold based on their karma and reduce the karma when they abuse mod
[13:32:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. lagg being modbombed, yes?
[13:32:28] <nick> the user in question basically took the 10 most recent comments from the target
[13:32:31] <nick> and downmodded all of them
[13:32:43] <Bytram> ^^^
[13:32:45] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard, aye.
[13:33:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't so much mind it being done to me but it hacks me right off when it's done to users.
[13:33:57] <prospectacle> I tend not to mod down, but when I mod up, I don't read who wrote the comment. Maybe some down-modders are the same.
[13:34:06] <nick> there's no excuses, it can't even be claimed 'i strongly disagree with all of his comments'.
[13:34:17] <nick> this was very deliberate
[13:34:23] <Bytram> I'm starting to think part of the problem lies in the way that the moderation UI is *presented* to the user...
[13:34:24] <prospectacle> It sounds like - based on what nick said - that it's pretty clear-cut in the case of Lagg, but that's not always the case.
[13:34:31] <nick> all the mods happened in the same few minutes
[13:34:31] <chromas> Have Clippit pop up: "It looks like you're trying to abuse your privilege. Would you like some help with that?"
[13:34:34] <nick> from what i can see
[13:34:43] <nick> spent 10minutes finding posts to downmodd
[13:34:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, ha!
[13:34:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like it
[13:34:54] <prospectacle> If we want to prevent more than X being used on one user, by one user, then that could just be a rule in accepting the mods.
[13:34:57] <prospectacle> chromas, lol
[13:35:08] <prospectacle> I tried to upmod the same comment twice to see if i could, and it failed.
[13:35:21] <prospectacle> could be the same with someone who downmods the same user more than X
[13:35:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> prospectacle, also not a bad idea
[13:35:39] <Bytram> users are well-trained with +1==Like and -1==dislike/disagree on other, very popular, sites.
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[13:36:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, part of the M1 refresh in prep for M2 is adding an agree/disagree score separately from moderation.
[13:36:33] <Bytram> so, I'm thinking that instead of presenting the user with a +1/-1 tool, present a drop-down list of what they think the final rating of the comment should be, alonwith a description to that effect
[13:36:53] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: hmmm, gotta think about that.
[13:37:03] <Bytram> still... hear me out...
[13:37:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:37:22] <Bytram> we have a fixed range of mod scores, right? -1, 0, ..., 5
[13:37:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> we needa hold a staff meeting on this soonish really.
[13:37:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:38:13] <Bytram> in theory, if I did a "select * from comments where comment_score = 3;" then I should get a bunch of good, but not necessarily GREAT! comments. Right?
[13:38:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> in theory. in practice it'd pretty much never work that way.
[13:38:46] <Bytram> if I selected on "score = -1" then it should all be troll-bait, spam, or other kinds of junk.
[13:39:05] <Bytram> and if I select on "score = 5", then it should just be the creme de la creme.
[13:39:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be. mostly it's going to be based on disagree/agree at this point though.
[13:39:49] <Bytram> But, we present the moderation tool to the user in a way that DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THAT.
[13:40:00] <Bytram> It *look* like an agree/disagree.
[13:40:15] <Lagg> I think that the site is at the point where there are enough people to do mods like they did to me but not quite enough people to balance things out and fix such things naturally
[13:40:28] <Lagg> More growing pains really
[13:40:34] <Bytram> it's a nuanced distinction, but a critical one, IMNSHO
[13:40:48] <Bytram> (growing pains)--
[13:40:48] <Bender> karma - (growing pains): -1
[13:41:12] <Bytram> see? here's yet another case where it's agree/disagree with no limits on the end
[13:41:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, you're thinking average the score then based on selecting from -1-+5
[13:41:29] <Bytram> kinda, but not quite...
[13:41:50] <Bytram> let's say we're looking at a comment that was just posted and it has a score of 1. Okay?
[13:41:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[13:42:39] <Bytram> I look at it and say, "WOW! that one's GREAT!"; I look at the list of scores I could rate it *at* and select "5 - Best of the Bunch"
[13:43:03] <Bytram> since the comment is currently at a 1, and 5 > 1, that translates (internally) into a +1 moderation.
[13:43:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, nod nod
[13:44:36] <Bytram> imagine some time goes by and I look at another comment, and see it is scored at "4 - VERY good", but it doesn't look *THAT* good to me, so I moderate it to be "3 Quite Good" and internally, we see that 3 < 4, so that translates to a "-1".
[13:45:10] <Bytram> "2 Good", "1 Okay", "0 Meh", "-1 Waste of Time"
[13:45:26] * Bytram is open to better descriptors, but that should capture the essence of it.
[13:45:42] <Bytram> hmm, "-1 Wasted my Time"
[13:45:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i get where you're coming from but it seems like that'd be even more open to agree/disagree moderation.
[13:46:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> and much, MUCH harder to metamod.
[13:46:47] <Bytram> it's like the olympics judging a gymnastics competition... people know how to score things.
[13:47:15] * Bytram remembers the movie "10" with Bo Derek
[13:47:41] * TheMightyBuzzard remembers Bo Derek being a spy on Chuck
[13:47:55] <Bytram> i some respects, isn't metamod kind of like what I am proposing, here?
[13:47:59] <Bytram> s/i/in/
[13:48:16] <Bytram> .op
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[13:48:19] <Bytram> .deop
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[13:49:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, it's meant to help determine how long before someone gets mod points again.
[13:49:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> bad moderators should have to wait a long time before they get the chance to screw up the scores again.
[13:50:07] <Bytram> hrm? Huh! I don't think I looked at it that way before...
[13:50:22] * Bytram learned something new today.
[13:50:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'all it ever did really
[13:50:51] <Bytram> never saw the backend *effect* of metamod though I did it a bunch of times.
[13:50:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[13:51:41] <Bytram> but, as it was *presented* to me, IIRC, it was basically along the lines of "here's a story; here's how it was modded; do you agree?"...
[13:51:52] <Bytram> do I remember correctly? It's been years!
[13:52:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram: s/story/comment/
[13:52:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yeah, thas the gist
[13:53:00] <Bytram> oops, yup.
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[13:53:07] <Bytram> mechanicjay: g'morning!
[13:53:11] <Bytram> which reminds me...
[13:53:13] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:53:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 692
[13:53:15] <Bytram> brb
[13:53:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:53:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 693
[13:53:24] <mechanicjay> Goodmorning Bytram
[13:53:26] <mechanicjay> coffee++
[13:53:26] <Bender> karma - coffee: 694
[13:53:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> say, he might be able to fix it.
[13:55:18] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: btw, remember: what I was proposing is how it *appears* to the user; it all translates, internally, into a "+1/0/-1" which is prety much the same as before.
[13:56:13] <nick> tea++
[13:56:13] <Bender> karma - tea: 32
[13:56:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod but a comment you disagree with is still a comment you disagree with and is unlikely to ever reach +5 under that system even if it deserves to.
[13:57:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> tea++
[13:57:10] <Bender> karma - tea: 33
[13:57:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> caffeine++
[13:57:23] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 17
[13:57:28] <Bytram> LOL!
[13:57:53] <Bytram> the choice of words associated with each of the scores is key, I think.
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[14:10:07] <Bytram> so, anyway, after the UI is done comparing the target score that the user selected for the moderation against the current score, and computes the delta, it looks the same as the -1/+1 we're accustomed to already
[14:10:08] <Bytram> brb
[14:10:10] <ciri> ok Bytram
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[14:42:08] <crutchy> coffee++
[14:42:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 695
[14:42:37] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[14:42:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 696
[14:42:40] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[14:42:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 697
[14:43:04] <Blackmoore> but this coffee.. this is more like drinking draino.
[14:44:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, crutchy
[14:44:34] <crutchy> mornin TheMightyBuzzard
[14:45:14] <Bytram> crutchy: g'day!
[14:45:18] <Bytram> ~weather crutchy
[14:45:22] <crutchy> ~time TheMightyBuzzard
[14:45:31] <crutchy> oops
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[14:46:00] <crutchy> forgot my sidekick
[14:46:23] <crutchy> g'day Bytram
[14:47:08] <Bytram> looks like you're not having any weather today?
[14:47:51] <crutchy> dunno. its dark outside atm
[14:47:58] <crutchy> ~time
[14:48:19] <exec> process timed out: ~time
[14:48:31] <Bytram> no time like the present?
[14:48:34] <crutchy> ~time
[14:48:44] <exec> Friday, 29 August 2014 @ 12:48 am AEST - Traralgon VIC, Australia
[14:48:44] <Blackmoore> ~weather galactic core
[14:48:48] <exec> weather for "galactic core" not found. check spelling or try another nearby location.
[14:48:57] <crutchy> damn shaped internet
[14:49:09] <Bytram> Completely sunny with a chance of gamma ray bursts
[14:50:29] <Blackmoore> .. ~weather is earthist!
[14:50:59] <crutchy> tis too! blasphemy!
[14:52:17] <crutchy> i shall reduce its speed from 12mbps down to three fifths of fuck all in protest :p
[14:52:51] <prospectacle> how many crutchy's does it take to change a lightbulb?
[14:52:52] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[14:53:10] <prospectacle> wait plurals don't have apostrophes, let me start again
[14:53:20] <prospectacle> how many crutchys does it take to change a lightbulb?
[14:54:00] <crutchy> i reached that apostrophe and had a brain bsod
[14:54:39] <crutchy> hmm
[14:54:42] <prospectacle> none, just use "~change lightbulb" instead
[14:54:58] <crutchy> takes 1 to contemplate changing lightbulb
[14:55:30] <crutchy> takes another to go get one from the shop cos usually run out :/
[14:55:43] <prospectacle> no exec takes care of all of that
[14:56:42] <crutchy> it would flood the channel with lightbulbs
[14:59:12] <prospectacle> how's it all going crutchy? Been up to anything interesting?
[15:00:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's entirely too early for me to think i could use a beer.
[15:00:43] <prospectacle> nah
[15:00:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - JPMorgan and Other Banks Struck by Cyberattack - http://sylnt.us - to-be-the-center-of-attention
[15:01:34] <prospectacle> it's 1 in the morning here, so drink away
[15:02:57] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[15:03:28] <exec> process timed out: ~weather boston
[15:18:52] <crutchy> ~rehash
[15:18:53] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (62 aliases)
[15:19:08] <crutchy> ~weather boston
[15:19:18] <exec> weather for 10Boston, MA US at 10:55 am (EDT) ~ 24 mins ago: temp: 1024.4°C (76°F), dp: 1013.6°C (56.5°F), press: 101009.8 mb (0 mb/18 mins), humid: 1051%, wind: 109.6 km/h (6 mph) @ 109°
[15:19:49] <crutchy> seems to vary a bit, but i extended the timeout just in case
[15:20:56] <crutchy> slowness is just till end of month cos i'm too much of a cheapskate to get a bigger plan
[15:22:17] <prospectacle> ~weather hawaii
[15:23:17] <exec> process timed out: ~weather hawaii
[15:25:27] <crutchy> just extended socket timeout in script too. sry about that
[15:25:42] <prospectacle> ~weather crutchy
[15:26:42] <exec> process timed out: ~weather crutchy
[15:27:30] <crutchy> eh. if 30 isn't enough time to download some text it aint happenin :/
[15:27:43] <crutchy> ^30 sec
[15:28:14] <crutchy> damn internets
[15:28:55] <Landon> mechanicjay: vroom vroom :) finally getting the hang of stick
[15:29:03] <crutchy> i'll try chucking it out to something rediculous, just to satisfy curiosity
[15:29:05] <Landon> I do think... hill assist on the next car though if we get another manual
[15:29:24] <prospectacle> yeah manuals are fun
[15:29:33] <Bytram> ManualTansmission++
[15:29:33] <Bender> karma - manualtansmission: 1
[15:29:40] <Bytram> ManualTransmission++
[15:29:40] <Bender> karma - manualtransmission: 1
[15:29:51] <Landon> StallingAtTheLight--
[15:29:51] <Bender> karma - stallingatthelight: -1
[15:29:56] <Bytram> LOL!
[15:30:00] <Landon> actually
[15:30:06] <Landon> StallingInConstruction--
[15:30:06] <Bender> karma - stallinginconstruction: -1
[15:30:17] <Bytram> Landon: once you get the hang of double-clutching and down-shifting, there's no going back
[15:30:20] <crutchy> ~rehash
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[15:30:26] <mechanicjay> Landon: Nice! Never had hill assist. It of course won't help in all cases - I stalled my truck this morning at a traffic light, not a hill in site.
[15:30:29] <Landon> first night out on the wide open road, we got stopped going up an overpass
[15:30:34] <crutchy> ~weather mumbai
[15:30:55] <Landon> had to lurch forwards half a foot at a time to dodge off to the side of the road where we could gather our wits and get it going again
[15:31:11] <mechanicjay> Landon: it's okay, that build character.
[15:31:14] <mechanicjay> :)
[15:31:15] <Landon> did I mention this was at the end of a construction merge lane? :)
[15:31:38] <exec> weather for "mumbai" not found. check spelling or try another nearby location.
[15:31:42] * Bytram once had his brakes replaced for the first time, at 98,000 miles. Come to find out, they were miscalibrated at the factory... the rear brakes were basically in brand-new, never-used condition. So, the fronts were doing *all* the work, and I got 98K miles out of them.
[15:31:42] <mechanicjay> A good trick for that is to pull the ebrake to keep you from rolling backwards -- when you feel the car start to pull forward, drop the ebrake and go
[15:31:52] <Bytram> ^^^^
[15:32:17] <Landon> yeah, I was too worried about slipping the clutch to start out with
[15:32:34] <Landon> but fuck it, practice solves that, priority is to get it moving :)
[15:32:59] <crutchy> i can't even get to weather.gladstonefamily.net in firefox :/
[15:35:49] <crutchy> i used to have an '85 manual carolla with a loose gear shifter. was really easy to change gears with which made it awesome fun to drive.
[15:37:47] <crutchy> i think ~weather is dead. not sure if site is down or its just cos my connection is too shit
[15:38:07] <crutchy> coffee++
[15:38:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 698
[15:38:09] * Bytram once rented a Porsche Boxster convertible in Germany; tranny was smooth as silk -- an absolute *dream* to drive!
[15:38:44] <prospectacle> crutchy I can't load weather.gladstonefamily.net either
[15:39:06] <crutchy> nice to hear you had fun with a tranny in a porche in germany Bytram :p
[15:39:26] <Landon> huehuehue
[15:39:55] <crutchy> sorry couldn't help myself
[15:40:02] <nick> someone had to, crutchy
[15:40:49] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[15:41:18] <Bytram|away> Well... it is a *gorgeous* day here and if I don't take advantage of it, I'll kick myself come winter.
[15:41:36] <Bytram|away> yuse guys!
[15:41:39] <Bytram|away> lol
[15:41:49] <Bytram|away> gtg... have fun!
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[15:43:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[15:43:34] <monopoly> ^ 04SN journal 03On Mod-Bombing 04(0 comments):
[15:52:37] <crutchy> ~weather
[15:53:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice, russia has sent armor into ukraine according to the NYT and FNC.
[15:56:13] <exec> weather for "traralgon, victoria, australia" not found. check spelling or try another nearby location.
[15:56:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather ukraine
[15:57:02] <crutchy> CIA won't like that
[15:57:34] <crutchy> how is US supposed to annex Ukraine if Russia is occupying?
[15:57:34] <ciri> you talking to me?
[15:58:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't personally care except to say nyah nyah to everyone who was all "russia are kind, cuddly teddy bears who would never do such a thing"
[15:58:34] <crutchy> lol. who thinks that?
[15:58:58] <crutchy> russia shot their own soldiers in ww2
[15:59:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> plenty of folks last time i argued about it in comments.
[15:59:29] <crutchy> i reckon russia is awesome at a lot of things, but humanitarianism isn't on that list
[15:59:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> $who = "useful idiots"; $who =~ s/useful //;
[16:00:25] <crutchy> i wouldn't recommend going to war with russia. not even america could win that
[16:00:33] <nick> Russia continues to play the game.
[16:00:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> nukes, yo.
[16:00:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> no playing to it. they've already won.
[16:00:58] <crutchy> you guys might have cool toys, but russia makes cool toys like america makes cheeseburgers
[16:01:25] <exec> weather for "ukraine" not found. check spelling or try another nearby location.
[16:01:29] <mrcoolbp> subscriptions go live in 3...2....
[16:01:30] <Woods> Now am I am hungry, thanks Crutchy. *goes to get a cheeseburger*
[16:01:32] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard, in my opinion Putin spent the last 15 years or so watching western diplomacy on an international scale
[16:01:36] <crutchy> lol
[16:01:39] <nick> and decided to beat the west at its own game
[16:02:16] <crutchy> not that its hard. the USA advertises its war strategy on CNN
[16:02:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, was no need for that much observation. just had to notice that our president has not the cajones to order a strike against a half dozen evil girl scouts.
[16:03:08] <nick> there's always half a dozen evil girl scouts somewhere to strike
[16:03:09] <crutchy> thats just cos he wanted the cookies intact :p
[16:03:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, they're all evil. tempting me with thin mints and whatnot.
[16:04:12] <prospectacle> TheMightyBuzzard, I have posted my essay on your journal entry about mod-bombing. Will be interesting to see what other opinions get posted.
[16:04:40] <crutchy> and always just a fraction more expensive than at a shop. brain: "but these are cheaper from the shop... oh but if you buy them now you don't havee to get off your arse and go buy them. oh ok lets buy them now"
[16:04:43] <prospectacle> hooray subscriptions are live
[16:04:49] <mrcoolbp> ^
[16:05:42] <mrcoolbp> also, one can purchase one without a paypal account, though the payment still goes through paypal (Select "Pay with a debit or Credit Card" option)
[16:06:01] <crutchy> re mod bombing: why 90% of the time i post comments as AC
[16:06:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> prospectacle, yeah, my take on it too. i like a good argue to help me flesh out my own opinion.
[16:07:28] <crutchy> cos 50 karma looks so nice i'm scared to lose it
[16:08:02] <crutchy> and it took me ages to get cos i'm too lazy to submit articles
[16:08:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> do it, crutchy. burning it is more fun than collecting it.
[16:08:58] <crutchy> wait... what!? NCommander's subscription post is too short. is he ok?
[16:09:18] <mrcoolbp> yes, we injected him with a conciseness remedy
[16:09:31] <mrcoolbp> last board meeting was like 4.3 minutes
[16:09:41] <crutchy> oh my
[16:10:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you make him do something when he wants to go to sleep really bad, apparently he does it very quickly.
[16:10:07] <crutchy> what of the committees and subcommittees though?
[16:10:25] <mrcoolbp> Unfortunately, those go on indefinitely crutchy
[16:10:29] <crutchy> lol sleep ransom. nice :D
[16:11:17] <crutchy> or some other word that i cant think of at 2am
[16:11:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Subscriptions Live on SoylentNews; Please Support Us - http://sylnt.us - help-us-become-financally-independent
[16:12:16] <mrcoolbp> !bite
[16:12:16] <Bender> mrcoolbp: Bite my shiny. metal. ass.
[16:13:18] <crutchy> sedbot disappeared again?
[16:14:24] <crutchy> ~sed on
[16:14:24] <exec> sed enabled for 10#Soylent
[16:14:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote TheMightyBuzzard
[16:14:54] <Bender> Quote 188 - <TheMightyBuzzard> no biggie, just had to decide where to put it.
[16:14:58] <Bender> Also in quotes: 189, 191, 203, 204
[16:25:37] <crutchy> anyone know why preg_replace("/C++/","pascal","C++",1) would return "pascal++" instead of "pascal"?
[16:25:58] <crutchy> i guess maybe something to do with + being a regex operator
[16:26:43] <prospectacle> makes sense
[16:26:56] <paulej72> got to escape thoes +s
[16:27:02] <prospectacle> if it's just a string you're replacing and not a complex expression, you could just use str_replace
[16:27:20] <crutchy> echo "C++" | sed -e "s/C++/pascal/" returns "pascal"
[16:29:05] <crutchy> paulej72, my regex-fu is too weak to know when to use preg_quote to escape operators
[16:29:24] <paulej72> neither is mine
[16:30:44] <crutchy> if i do s/C+/pascal it returns pascal++ too
[16:31:00] <crutchy> so not just if there is two consecutive ++'s
[16:31:31] * crutchy isn't qualified to write a sedbot :/
[16:38:59] <crutchy> C++
[16:38:59] <Bender> karma - c: 26
[16:39:15] <crutchy> s/C\+\+/pascal/
[16:39:16] <exec> <crutchy> pascal
[16:39:29] <crutchy> works if i escape them manually at least
[16:41:44] <crutchy> prospectacle, problem is i'm not sure how to recognize if its just a string or an expression
[16:45:16] <prospectacle> ah
[16:45:20] <prospectacle> I see what u mean
[16:53:17] <prospectacle> well it's almost three in the morning. I guess I should rest my eyes for a minute
[16:53:23] <prospectacle> See you all later
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[16:59:25] <mrcoolbp> !UID
[16:59:29] <mrcoolbp> !uid
[16:59:29] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5431, owned by paulej72
[16:59:46] <mrcoolbp> this is not correct
[16:59:56] <crutchy> bender needs a reset
[17:00:58] <mrcoolbp> !reset
[17:01:01] <mrcoolbp> !list
[17:01:02] <Bender> available plugins: admin, cfg, chan, chatlog, core, fleet, grabquote, ignore, irc, karma, koffie, lod, markov, more, plug, relay, soylentrss, sylnt, todo, twitter, uidchecker, urlinfo, user
[17:01:30] <mrcoolbp> meh, I'll probably bread him
[17:01:37] <mrcoolbp> s/bread/break/
[17:01:38] <exec> <mrcoolbp> meh, I'll probably break him
[17:02:14] <mrcoolbp> !bite crutchy
[17:02:14] <Bender> crutchy: Bite my shiny. metal. ass.
[17:08:59] <crutchy> !sylnt
[17:08:59] <Bender> sylnt <url>
[17:09:34] <crutchy> !irc
[17:09:45] <crutchy> !fleet
[17:09:58] <crutchy> !chan
[17:10:07] <crutchy> oky doky
[17:14:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya?
[17:16:57] <arti> greetings gents
[17:19:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> yo yo, home-skillet
[17:21:33] <mrcoolbp> hey arti
[17:21:55] <arti> :) big surf here
[17:22:10] <arti> like record for the last ~ 15 years
[17:22:29] <arti> abcnews.go.com/US/surf-newport-beachs-monster-wedge-wave/story?id=25148156
[17:22:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Death Valley's Moving Rocks Mystery Solved - http://sylnt.us - patents-for-procedurally-generated-asset-movement
[17:52:35] <mrcoolbp> arti: are you gonna jump in the water?
[17:53:23] <arti> nah, fish make love in it
[17:54:00] <mrcoolbp> lol
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[17:54:01] <ciri> rofl
[17:54:12] * Alberto subscribed! :D
[17:55:17] <mrcoolbp> thanks buddy
[17:56:29] <Alberto> Great changes, i love how Soylent is doing!
[17:56:50] <mrcoolbp> = )
[17:56:59] <mrcoolbp> We're just getting started Alberto
[17:58:40] <Alberto> i know
[17:58:50] <Alberto> You need to finish the pr0n section ASAP
[17:58:51] <Alberto> :p
[17:58:56] <Alberto> crutchy!
[17:58:59] <Alberto> arti!
[17:59:05] <Alberto> paulej72asdka!
[17:59:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> we have. it's stored on crutchy's laptop
[17:59:26] * Alberto has early access to that too?
[18:00:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Sure but you have to physically go to Australia to make use of it. Tell him I said you could.
[18:01:15] <Alberto> ok
[18:01:19] <Alberto> i will be there soon
[18:01:35] <Alberto> and the site has themes
[18:01:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, they're nifty and easy to write.
[18:01:55] <Alberto> Shame on Original SlashCode developers
[18:02:19] <Alberto> dunny why they never added UTF-8 support
[18:03:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> me either. they halfway added it then specifically went around making sure it wouldn't work.
[18:03:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> it was like bizarro world trying to figure out why they did what they did.
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[18:05:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think i'll work on a green on black, oldschool VT100 terminal looking theme some today. going to be harder than black icicle was though.
[18:05:52] <mrcoolbp> !todo expand "About" page
[18:05:52] <Bender> todo item 17 added
[18:08:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo
[18:08:42] <Bender> todo for themightybuzzard: 1) get m2 working 2) argue for the death of Overrated and Underrated 3) IDN support 4) utf8mb4 upgrade 5) queued articles on the submissions page discussion 6) discuss allowing extra html formatting tags in comments
[18:10:04] <TK> @2 How else am I supposed to mod down a +5 informative that misquotes or misrepresents something?
[18:11:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> @2?
[18:11:38] <TK> Item 2
[18:11:46] <TK> I didn't want to say @Bender
[18:11:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh right
[18:12:30] <TK> But there are arguments in both directions
[18:12:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> better to do that with a comment really. creates more discussion and clears things up for those reading as to why it's not as good.
[18:13:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly though because it's primarily used as agree/disagree right now.
[18:20:00] <TK> I suppose
[18:20:41] <TK> A comment would be best, but the ability to knock it down from +5 in addition to the comment has some value
[18:26:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably, i just see more down side than up
[18:30:37] <TK> What would become the new +1 Agree -1 disagree?
[18:31:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> surprisingly, an agree/disagree button separate from moderation.
[18:32:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> last i checked NC was in lurve with the idea.
[18:35:15] <TK> Does it take a mod point to apply?
[18:36:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't think so. think it's just going to be a free for all type thing.
[18:41:36] <TK> Well, it's different, I'll give you that
[18:42:00] <TK> I'll wait for the fully fleshed-out version before passing judgement
[18:42:19] <TK> or at least until the commenting phase
[18:42:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[18:42:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> we haven't even had a staff meeting about it yet to get into a good argument.
[18:43:24] <TK> You'll need more sorting options to go along with it
[18:44:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya think? i was thinking specifically not allowing hiding posts by agree/disagree
[18:45:47] <TK> "Sort like reddit", "sort like slashdot"
[18:45:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> knocking posts that don't further discussion out of view is peachy keen but ones that incite discussion should always be kept viewable.
[18:46:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[18:51:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Truth We Won’t Admit: Drinking is Healthy - http://sylnt.us - starting-the-weekend-early
[19:10:50] <Alberto> !todo expand "Donators page" :p
[19:10:50] <Bender> todo item 1 added
[19:10:58] <Alberto> !todo
[19:10:58] <Bender> todo for alberto: 1) expand "Donators page" :p
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[19:25:33] <Blackmoore> !todo Start drinking
[19:25:33] <Bender> todo item 1 added
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[20:09:52] <Blackmoore> !todo get more rum
[20:09:52] <Bender> todo item 2 added
[20:20:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - PACER Deleted Tons Of Public Court Records - http://sylnt.us - open-format-man-to-the-rescue?
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[20:49:07] <Lagg> NCommander: I can't afford this subscription at all.
[20:49:13] * Lagg buys subscription
[21:02:25] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: maybe Disagree hides the post from just the one who marked it so, that way they think they did more than they did
[21:03:13] <chromas> Maybe it affects the friend/foe value after a while it building up disagree points with someone
[21:06:01] <crutchy> maybe after X back n forths, a comment thread could be classified as a 'great biffo in history' and can be viewable as a linear thread accessible from a new 'great biffos in history' page?
[21:08:16] <chromas> ~define biffo
[21:08:20] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3BIFFO: Irish slang for a "Big Ignorant Fucker From Offaly" but feel free to substitute you city of choice... It's especially handy when the BIFFO doesn't know you're insulting him (or h...
[21:08:47] <chromas> Lol
[21:08:47] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[21:09:15] <chromas> ciri agrees, therefore I'm right; it was funny
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[21:43:35] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:43:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 699
[21:48:07] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[21:48:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 700
[21:50:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[21:50:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 701
[21:50:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, crutchy
[21:51:09] <crutchy> g'day :)
[21:51:32] <crutchy> coffee will keep me going on this foggy friday morning
[21:51:41] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:51:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 702
[21:51:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Keurig DRM Cracked By Competitors - http://sylnt.us - where's-the-bacon
[21:52:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. coffee is our friend.
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[22:00:23] <crutchy> i really wanna subscribe but it will be a hard sell to the minister of finance. we need to bash together a story titled "why wives should allow their husbands to subscribe to SN"
[22:00:50] <crutchy> if they don't get to eat it or wear it there is no point
[22:01:30] <crutchy> ^what the standard reply usually means (less all the ranting)
[22:03:01] <crutchy> meh fuck it. $20/yr is fuck all. she can "wear" it :p
[22:03:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> go for a t-shirt then
[22:04:36] <crutchy> need a 'SN ...is bewbs!' tshirt
[22:05:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't think we could get away with a bews++ girlie T
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[22:12:25] <crutchy> gtg to workipoos. almost the weekend
[22:12:28] <crutchy> cyas later
[22:12:53] <crutchy> wifey's going to do my subscription next week yay! i have nfi how to use paypal
[22:20:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[22:45:13] <Lagg> crutchy: Not even people who write code to use its API know how to use paypal
[22:45:20] <Lagg> I know because I DO IT WAY TOO FUCKING OFTEN
[22:45:34] <Lagg> RARGH
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[23:21:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DOJ: We Found The Lerner Emails, WH: No You Didn't - http://sylnt.us - someone-is-wrong
[23:38:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's official, mac users watch the most porn
[23:39:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.phoronix.com
[23:39:08] <monopoly> ^ 03[Phoronix] OS Battle: Linux Takes 1.7% Desktop Marketshare
[23:39:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, and that too
[23:45:54] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: FYI I use a Mac :P
[23:49:48] <Lagg> paulej72: It's going to be a pretty hard battle between you and the other two mac users for most prolific porn watcher
[23:51:54] <paulej72> what you do not know is I have a extra set of arms, so I can code in Slash while doing other things on the side (what thoes ohter things are, is left as a exercise for the reader)
[23:53:35] <Lagg> Mac users that can figure out how to run perl on OSX are a subset of those 3 users
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[23:55:42] <SpallsHurgenson> huh, better than the ads they want to embed into firefox anyway http://boingboing.net
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[23:57:19] <SpallsHurgenson> microsoft still can't get it right http://www.zdnet.com
[23:57:58] <SpallsHurgenson> (what is it with Win8 updates anyway? did they fire their win8-patch-testing team or something? I haven't seen this many buggy patches since the win95 days)