#Soylent | Logs for 2014-08-26
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[00:08:05] * mrcoolbp offers in case your bored:
[00:08:05] <mrcoolbp> http://meta.slashdot.org
[00:08:07] <monopoly> ^ ( http://slashdot.org )
[00:12:50] <TheMightyLaptop> i vaguely remember that
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[00:32:38] <TheMightyLaptop> man, i kinda wanna find an excuse to use the smart match operator in slash
[00:32:54] * juggs ' hologram fizzles tentatively into visibility over in the corner
[00:33:26] <TheMightyLaptop> like @array ~~ $scalar returns true if $scalar is anywhere in @array
[00:38:01] <juggs> is that novel?
[00:38:18] <TheMightyLaptop> dunno but it's nifty
[00:41:42] <juggs> does it look for the value of $scalar in the array or for the presence of $scalar itself?
[00:41:52] <TheMightyLaptop> value
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[00:42:08] <TheMightyLaptop> \$scalar would look for the memory address
[00:42:30] <juggs> I'm not sure that question even made sense in my own mind - glad you managed to make something of it :D
[00:42:59] <TheMightyLaptop> ima have to write something with it to learn it.
[00:43:17] <juggs> sounds like it would be useful
[00:43:23] <TheMightyLaptop> nod nod
[00:43:35] <TheMightyLaptop> not sure precisely how but shurg
[00:44:25] <juggs> one day there will be an "a-ha" moment and you'll put it to good use saving hours of work :D
[00:45:12] <TheMightyLaptop> almost certain there are places in slash that could make use of it but i can't think of them off the top of my head.
[00:45:32] <TheMightyLaptop> prolly write an irc script for it.
[00:46:03] <juggs> whuuuuut! you don't have the whole of /code memorised yet?
[00:46:45] <TheMightyLaptop> ha! i don't even try. some stuff sticks despite that but mostly i just grep for what i want.
[00:46:51] <SirFinkus> windows--
[00:46:51] <Bender> karma - windows: -7
[00:47:00] <TheMightyLaptop> doors++
[00:47:00] <Bender> karma - doors: 1
[00:48:26] <TheMightyLaptop> you having to use the os of tears and pain, SirFinkus?
[00:48:42] <SirFinkus> fixing a laptop
[00:48:56] <SirFinkus> I suppose I've made a bit of money fixing windows fuckups though
[00:49:01] * chromas walks away from the washer with a clean screwdriver
[00:49:02] <TheMightyLaptop> oh fun. windows 8?
[00:49:07] <SirFinkus> naw, 7
[00:49:18] <TheMightyLaptop> damn, could have charged extra.
[00:49:20] <SirFinkus> I guess windows just decided to fuck itself
[00:49:30] <SirFinkus> looking like a reinstall at this point
[00:50:07] <TheMightyLaptop> weird. 7 has been remarkably stable for my gaming platform.
[00:50:26] <TheMightyLaptop> course that's ALL i do on it, so that probably helps
[00:50:49] <SirFinkus> the thing that drives me nuts is that everything is so obfuscated
[00:51:10] <TheMightyLaptop> yep, hate that.
[00:51:14] * TheMightyLaptop eyes systemd
[00:51:23] <SirFinkus> when stuff like this happens on *nix, you can see the boot logging as it happens and know exactly where it fails and why
[00:51:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In Need of a Burst of Creativity? Go for a Walk. - http://sylnt.us - not-to-the-water-cooler-and-back
[00:52:09] <TheMightyLaptop> ahh, yeah that is handy.
[00:52:13] <SirFinkus> this I get a 0xF000000F4 for my trouble, which basically means "some windows file is broken or something"
[00:52:23] <TheMightyLaptop> har
[00:52:36] <TheMightyLaptop> aight, ima head home. see you lot in a bit.
[00:52:41] <SirFinkus> cya
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[01:10:27] * SpallsHurgenson announces an emergency meeting in #staff to discuss why there isn't a meeting scheduled for today
[01:13:39] <juggs> I propose 0115 UTC :D
[01:13:57] <chromas> Gotta have yesterday's meeting first
[01:14:49] <juggs> Yesterday is happening tomorrow (or is it today??). Damn timezones confzzling things
[01:15:05] <SpallsHurgenson> that's why I live on a flat planet
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[01:18:59] <SpallsHurgenson> also, turtles; lots and lots of turtles.
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[02:04:10] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v Bytram|away] by juggler
[02:21:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China Says New Supersonic Sub Would Reach San Francisco in 100 Minutes - http://sylnt.us - have-sub-will-travel
[02:23:06] <chromas> They will beat their own pings
[02:24:59] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[02:26:06] <Subsentient> chromas: AHAHAHAHAH
[02:26:12] <Subsentient> $beer chromas
[02:26:12] * aqu4 gives chromas a cold can of beer
[02:26:25] <chromas> Thank you kind sir
[02:26:30] <chromas> $beer Subsentient
[02:26:33] <chromas> ~say $beer Subsentient
[02:26:34] <exec> $beer Subsentient
[02:26:34] * aqu4 gives Subsentient a cold can of beer
[02:26:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> if i could beat my own pings, i would pwn ALL OF THE NOOBS in any FPS
[02:27:38] <Subsentient> $blacklist list
[02:27:38] <aqu4> 10 blacklisted vhosts found:
[02:27:39] <aqu4> [1] Khyber!*@*
[02:27:40] <aqu4> [2] bacon!bacon@*
[02:27:40] <aqu4> [3] deadbeef!*@*
[02:27:41] <aqu4> [4] juggler!*@*
[02:27:42] <aqu4> [5] *!chromas@0::1
[02:27:43] <aqu4> [6] *!chromas@*
[02:27:44] <aqu4> [7] *!*@47-85-184-52.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com
[02:27:44] <aqu4> [8] *!*@62-31-652-122.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com
[02:27:45] <aqu4> [9] *!*@0::1
[02:27:46] <aqu4> [10] ciri!*@*
[02:27:47] <aqu4> End of blacklist list.
[02:27:59] <Subsentient> $blacklist unset *!chromas@*
[02:27:59] <aqu4> Unblacklisting successful.
[02:28:04] <Subsentient> $blacklist unset *!chromas@0::1
[02:28:04] <aqu4> Unblacklisting successful.
[02:28:05] <SpallsHurgenson> awww, I'm not blacklisteD?
[02:28:09] <Subsentient> lol
[02:28:10] * SpallsHurgenson has been trying really hard too
[02:28:10] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
[02:28:14] <Subsentient> chromas: There you go. Behave.
[02:28:22] <chromas> Thanks
[02:28:27] * chromas gives Subsentient a thumbs up
[02:28:35] <Subsentient> $blacklist unset *!*@0::1
[02:28:35] <aqu4> Unblacklisting successful.
[02:28:43] <Subsentient> $restart
[02:28:43] <aqu4> Be right back.
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[02:28:44] <ciri> ok aqu4
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[02:28:53] <Subsentient> there
[02:29:04] <chromas> $beer aqu4
[02:29:04] * aqu4 gives aqu4 a cold can of beer
[02:29:48] <Subsentient> chromas: That really was one of your best jokes I think.
[02:30:41] <Subsentient> I just came up with the unfunny 'My son is an evil genius and can vaporize your straight-A-student beating bully'
[02:34:08] <chromas> ^ dept
[02:34:18] * chromas wonders how long the dept field is
[02:34:40] <chromas> (but doesn't spend the three minutes to peek at the source)
[02:35:55] <chromas> ~say !beer porn
[02:35:56] <exec> !beer porn
[02:35:57] * ciri pours some porn from the tap and slides it to exec
[02:43:27] * chromas almost has gateway box useable, except dns
[02:44:37] <chromas> and dhcp
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[03:46:36] <Subsentient> Another fucking free kitten seeker: http://atlanta.craigslist.org
[03:46:36] <monopoly> ^ 03are there no kittens in Monroe?
[03:46:38] <Subsentient> Flag generously.
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[03:52:10] <juggs> Mebbe they are impecunious and wish to have a pet. Probably not two things that sit well together granted. Should I be concerned it is under "/eat/" - I can't imagine there is much to eat on a kitten. Or is there another story here I am unaware off?
[03:52:40] <juggs> of*
[04:02:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon Acquired Streaming Service Twitch for $970M - http://sylnt.us - nervous-reflex
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[04:20:33] * juggs trundles around
[04:23:04] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> quiet night, this
[04:23:58] <SpallsHurgenson> WE CAN ALL TALK LIKE THIS IF IT WOULD MAKE THINGS LOUDER
[04:24:29] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> I USUALLY TYPE LIKE THIS ANYWAY
[04:24:38] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> IT HELPS EXPRESS MY FEELINGS
[04:25:21] <SpallsHurgenson> GOOD, ITS NOT GOOD TO KEEP THINGS BOTTLED UP
[04:25:23] <juggs> I'm not sure how - but have at it if it amuses you
[04:25:44] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> ahaha
[04:26:35] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> so i'm wondering what amazon plans twitch.tv if it's going to acquire it ;(
[04:27:51] <SpallsHurgenson> whatever it is, I'm sure it will be to the advantage of consumers and content producers everywhere
[04:28:31] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> well, maybe their CEO is like a hardc0re gamer that'll help bleed out all the minecraft and dumpster-tier league of legends games
[04:29:11] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> the world needs more quake & cpma
[04:30:20] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm not sure what any of that meant, but it sounded like you were badmouthing minecraft...
[04:31:26] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> i dunno man, like, i sometimes get in this mood where i kind of feel like i need to verbally assault minecraft live streams ;(
[04:31:41] <JamesNZ> SPALLSHURGENSON: LET'S MAKE A TALK-IN-ALL-CAPS DAY!
[04:31:54] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> CAN WE? CAN WE HAVE THAT?
[04:32:08] <JamesNZ> WHY NOT \O/
[04:32:40] <juggs> I still enjoy Urban Terror - when I can find a server in my vicinity.
[04:33:25] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> juggs: i've heard of it, but never actually seen it :<
[04:34:00] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> the wikipedia article makes it sound interesting
[04:34:16] <juggs> http://www.urbanterror.info
[04:34:19] <monopoly> ^ 03Urban Terror
[04:34:57] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> tbh i've watched twitch like maybe six times in total
[04:35:55] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> ah, i remember watching cypher vs rapha for the quakecon finals on twitch actually :p
[04:36:39] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> i think those qlive d00ds are busy flipping out about the leaked list of changes id software is rumored to be working on
[04:37:22] <juggs> Side project for the staffers at frozen sands so progress is slow - UTHD should be interesting if it ever arrives. For now it's plodding around with a gun and killing others.
[04:37:51] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> juggs: the closest i've ever gotten to q3 is cpma really :p hehe
[04:37:54] * SpallsHurgenson nods as if he has any idea what SGT_CAPSLOCK is saying so he appears cool
[04:38:27] * juggs just trundles around picking up garbage
[04:38:31] * SGT_CAPSLOCK straightens his posture
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[04:40:55] <juggs> your boots are unpolished SGT_CAPSLOCK
[04:41:57] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> you notice the oddest things, juggs
[04:42:32] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> thank you though, i'll have ncommander shine them up first thing in the morning
[04:44:38] <juggs> you'll shine them yourself you lowly worm. And while we're at it get those stripes off your shoulder, you didn't earn them. HUH!!. Or something like that. :)
[04:45:08] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> you're... gawd... i feel like i need to cry a little just now actually
[04:45:33] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> i'll shine them with my tears just, you know, over there... in the corner...
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[04:46:09] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> i used to have one of those c00l Soylent/Users/whatevs cloaks
[04:46:11] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> once upon a time
[04:46:19] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> it was so awesome
[04:47:20] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> i think nickserv ate it
[04:48:52] <juggs> it likely got ate when we moved irc servers - feel free to hit up #help
[04:49:20] <chromas> What ranks would ScrollLock and DumLock have?
[04:50:40] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> ahahahahaha
[04:50:40] <chromas> They expire after a while of non-use, I think
[04:50:45] <SGT_CAPSLOCK> one day we'll find out!
[04:51:02] SGT_CAPSLOCK is now known as svxs
[04:51:12] <svxs> but that name is kind of annoying since it shows up like bright white in irssi for me
[04:53:02] <chromas> You know what's funny is the topic for #help tells you to join it
[04:53:54] <svxs> i joined it but i think my overbearing presence kind of stunned everyone
[04:54:05] <svxs> they're in shock, trying to scramble for responses
[04:54:23] <juggs> yeh - I'm awed
[04:54:31] <chromas> Well but you don't see the topic until you've already joined
[04:54:32] <svxs> i knew it
[04:55:04] <juggs> chromas should show up in /list
[04:55:24] <chromas> Ah, true
[04:55:38] <juggs> or is everyone using webchat :(
[04:56:24] <chromas> No but I already know all the listed channels so I forgot about it
[04:56:49] * juggs notes the playlist rolled on - wth was I just listening too?? nvm
[05:01:24] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm pretty sure it was AC/DC Thunderstrike
[05:05:21] <juggs> No - it was some recent Iron Maiden warblage. Same ballpark I guess.
[05:06:29] <SpallsHurgenson> wars have been started for less!
[05:10:40] <juggs> heretic / infidel! No-one expects the Spanish Inquistion - No End In Sight. etc etc etc. That they have doesn't mean that they should ever more henceforth.
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[05:12:05] <juggs> Did Spalls just spall?
[05:20:38] <svxs> wat
[05:41:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sci-Fi Author Alastair Reynolds Says MSWord "Drives Me to Distraction" - http://sylnt.us - it-claims-to-set-the-standard
[05:49:25] <chromas> wordperfect++
[05:49:25] <Bender> karma - wordperfect: 1
[05:50:32] <svxs> svxs++
[05:50:37] <svxs> plz
[05:50:50] <chromas> what'd you do?
[05:50:58] <svxs> i'm just pretty awesome in general
[05:51:02] <svxs> i deserve it
[05:51:07] <chromas> need an awesome rejoinder or something
[05:52:29] <monopoly> svxs++ for alleged awesomosity
[05:52:29] <Bender> karma - svxs: 1
[05:52:36] <svxs> oh my
[05:52:57] <svxs> i feel great now, this is like a tremendous honor for me
[05:53:19] <svxs> i'd like to give shout outs to a few important people who've helped me get this far
[05:53:28] <chromas> lol
[05:53:28] <ciri> HEHEHEHE
[05:53:36] <svxs> chris brown, justin bieber, etc, you're all my homeys
[05:54:07] <chromas> homie_the_clown++
[05:54:07] <Bender> karma - homie_the_clown: 1
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[06:08:16] * chromas only just now noticed the updated friend/foe icons and fives a thumbs_up.png
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[06:31:05] <chromas> !beer orange root
[06:31:05] * ciri pours some orange root from the tap and slides it to chromas
[06:55:48] <chromas> Is it wrong to use time.windows.com as an ntp source in Linux?
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[07:10:02] <JamesNZ> chromas: Just ask yourself, WWRMSD?
[07:10:09] <chromas> lol
[07:10:10] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[07:10:20] <JamesNZ> :D
[07:10:26] <chromas> Expend their resources!
[07:10:44] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[07:11:30] <chromas> been trying to get box set up as a gateway; just noticed the lan-side adapters don't have addresses asigned
[07:11:35] <chromas> $burrito chromas
[07:11:36] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at chromas
[07:20:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - For Sale: Your Cellphone Location - http://sylnt.us - old-news,-now-officially-bad-news
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[07:22:44] <crutchy> 6++
[07:22:44] <Bender> karma - 6: 9
[07:22:50] <chromas> ooh
[07:22:55] <chromas> ~g'day crutchy
[07:22:56] <exec> * chromas postulates a cold can of testicle juice towards crutchy
[07:23:06] <crutchy> ~gday chromas
[07:23:06] <exec> * crutchy cracks open a wine flute of NCommander for chromas
[07:23:10] <JamesNZ> O_o
[07:23:12] <chromas> ooh, it's chilled—classy
[07:23:37] <chromas> exec++
[07:23:37] <Bender> karma - exec: 12
[07:26:30] <crutchy> ~gday JamesNZ
[07:26:31] <exec> * crutchy throws a used franger of milo at JamesNZ
[07:26:51] * JamesNZ catches it gingerly
[07:26:58] <JamesNZ> ~gday crutchy
[07:26:58] <exec> * JamesNZ offers a toilet bowl of beer to crutchy
[07:27:16] <crutchy> yummy
[07:27:23] <JamesNZ> Your welcome :P
[07:27:25] <chromas> The secret is there's another 3 gallons you can flush into it
[07:28:10] <crutchy> i can chug it out of the toilet bowl and then chuck it back up into the toilet bowl
[07:28:19] * chromas notes that either flush tanks are shrinking or gallons are inflating almost as fast as USD
[07:28:32] <chromas> haha, flush, rinse, repeat
[07:28:44] <JamesNZ> ~gday Subsentient
[07:28:44] <exec> * JamesNZ cracks open a bucket of g'day juice for Subsentient
[07:31:12] <crutchy> did i miss anything?
[07:31:32] <crutchy> how many staff mettings were there today?
[07:31:45] <chromas> NCommander left and went to head up /. dev
[07:32:02] <chromas> Left Barrabas in charge; we're moving back to Bluehost
[07:32:37] <chromas> Also at some point, |. started pulling sn articles
[07:33:10] <crutchy> and SN is going to a shared textarea for stories and comments?
[07:34:07] <crutchy> so we can play catch-the-cursor
[07:34:09] <chromas> exactly. And they're switching to silverlight
[07:35:10] <chromas> :/ dhcpd offering an address now but the computer won't take it
[07:36:16] <crutchy> with a vba addon for wordpress
[07:36:54] <crutchy> and a microfoft access backend
[07:37:00] <chromas> ~define-add vba, Visual Basic for Assholes
[07:37:00] <exec> definition for term "vba" set to "Visual Basic for Assholes"
[07:37:12] <crutchy> microfoft++
[07:37:12] <Bender> karma - microfoft: 1
[07:37:22] <chromas> maybe s/ole/hat/
[07:37:47] <crutchy> yeah that one
[07:38:10] <chromas> wait, that's too many Hs
[07:38:10] <crutchy> better ~define-add it again
[07:38:14] <chromas> ~define-add vba, Visual Basic for Asshats
[07:38:15] <exec> definition for term "vba" set to "Visual Basic for Asshats"
[07:38:37] <crutchy> its the only way to be sure
[07:38:44] <chromas> although I've never used it so it might be good
[07:38:58] <crutchy> i have. its poo
[07:39:24] <crutchy> does that make me an asshat?
[07:39:42] <chromas> I used vb6 in Skool; people were amazed when I already knew how to make it select the text in an edit field when it got focus
[07:39:42] <crutchy> oh no cos its not *for* me
[07:40:04] <crutchy> sellength and selstart?
[07:40:04] <chromas> no, I was thinking more of the phbs and marketing types
[07:40:11] <chromas> yeah
[07:40:12] <crutchy> hmm might be diff in vba
[07:40:17] <crutchy> ah
[07:40:20] <chromas> in an onFocus() or something
[07:40:52] * chromas notes that people can be amazed by next to nothing when computers are involved
[07:41:07] <chromas> "Holy shit! How did you make the text red?"
[07:42:02] <crutchy> i'm setting up a hypervisor on my desk. my boss has no idea what i'm doing but doesn't ask any questions :p
[07:42:22] <crutchy> apt-get install skynet
[07:42:30] <chromas> keep the text scrooling and it looks like you're hard at work
[07:42:44] <chromas> ascii minesweeper
[07:42:47] <crutchy> tails are good for that
[07:43:00] * chromas notes that journalctl doesn't act like tail :(
[07:43:20] <crutchy> what about systemd --tail?
[07:43:44] <chromas> lol
[07:43:44] <ciri> HEHEHEHE
[07:43:48] <chromas> there is no systemd
[07:43:54] <chromas> (filename)
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[07:45:17] <crutchy> all your shell are belong to systemd
[07:45:37] * chromas found an installed tool called ip. The help is retarded
[07:46:02] <crutchy> maybe you accidentally installed rip?
[07:47:12] * chromas does a package search for rip, gets over nine thousand results
[07:47:25] <chromas> oh, because "script" etc
[07:47:50] <crutchy> do a search for 'retarded ip'
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[07:49:18] <crutchy> shaped--
[07:49:18] <Bender> karma - shaped: -1
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[07:51:04] <chromas> That time of the month?
[07:51:34] <chromas> Quick; here's a bunch of YT links!
[07:54:22] <crutchy> might end up bumping up to the next plan in a couple of weeks
[07:55:50] <chromas> Get onto the neighbors' wifi early in the month so you can save yours for later
[07:58:53] <chromas> Not finding a unicode evil grin
[08:05:19] <crutchy> ooh mod points
[08:12:25] <crutchy> wtf
[08:12:36] <crutchy> 'rocky mudbutt'?
[08:12:44] <SirFinkus> windows--
[08:12:44] <Bender> karma - windows: -8
[08:13:15] <chromas> is that an sn user?
[08:13:27] * crutchy enjoyed setting up a vm on a dual xeon server today
[08:13:44] <chromas> neat
[08:14:51] <chromas> now you need to put a vm in the vm
[08:15:41] <crutchy> my engimineering app is going to be much betterer than on the old vostro 200 clunker that its running on atm
[08:16:22] <chromas> engimineering++
[08:16:22] <Bender> karma - engimineering: 1
[08:16:40] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org
[08:16:40] <monopoly> ^ 03Rocky Mudbutt - SoylentNews User
[08:17:18] <chromas> oh yeah
[08:17:28] <chromas> forgot about the journal pane on the side
[08:22:38] * crutchy wonders if it would be possible to make a client that integrated SN website features with IRC
[08:22:55] <crutchy> would be cool to be able to show relationships in a clickable treeview
[08:23:31] <crutchy> use a tab control for slashboxes etc
[08:24:04] <crutchy> and have an irc chat bar near the bottom
[08:24:15] <chromas> so it works like FB/G+
[08:24:33] <crutchy> made specifically for SN
[08:24:44] <chromas> "Ooh, crutchy's on! I'd better send him this link"
[08:24:48] * crutchy doesn't use fb or g+ so not sure
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[08:25:26] <crutchy> gotta keep those cat pics flowing
[08:25:30] <chromas> http://indunanayakkara.files.wordpress.com
[08:26:28] <chromas> I think the crickets are on shrooms or something
[08:26:39] <crutchy> integrated chat, social networking and news for nerds
[08:26:40] <chromas> much lower cheeping. More like chooping
[08:26:55] <crutchy> might differentiate us from competition more
[08:27:21] <crutchy> ooh and we could have our own client package in apt/aur/etc
[08:27:21] <chromas> Would be kind of nifty to have a fb/g+-ish thing without ads or snooping
[08:27:28] <crutchy> yeah
[08:27:53] <chromas> on the other hand, they're mainly just combining blags, chat and gallery
[08:27:55] <crutchy> then we could build on the chat client to make it more than just irc
[08:28:12] <chromas> (and blag aggregation)
[08:28:21] <chromas> We need a p2p version
[08:29:00] <crutchy> atm we're basically just another /. we even got a dice on our home page
[08:29:53] <chromas> We're totally different! When's the last time /. 503d?
[08:30:04] <chromas> (Nobody knows because it's dead to us)
[08:31:49] <chromas> if only I knew awk
[08:32:08] <chromas> Would be amusing to have it randomly insert sexual innuendo, what with its name and all
[08:33:02] <crutchy> with natalie portman?
[08:33:08] <chromas> Yes please
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[08:33:18] <chromas> EF wouldn't like it though
[08:33:57] <chromas> Surprised he hasn't brought up her jewishness and a correlation between that and /. being "jews"
[08:34:39] <crutchy> EF is like an EF5 tornado; he blows in, ejaculates everywhere and then pisses off
[08:35:18] <chromas> I wonder if he used to write Windows software in the 90s
[08:35:44] <chromas> Back when they did that with files
[08:35:48] <crutchy> dunno. i was in high skool in the 90's
[08:36:09] <chromas> "/windows/system32"? Hell yeah I'll throw my config file in there!
[08:37:09] <crutchy> or store in binary format in hkcr/clsid in the registry
[08:38:01] <crutchy> system32d
[08:38:10] <chromas> I'm not sure but it seems like in Win 3 the registry was mainly (only?) for storing which filetype goes with which program
[08:38:30] <crutchy> but it could be used for so much more
[08:38:39] <crutchy> who needs a hard disk when you have the registry?
[08:38:51] * chromas stores all his pr0nz in the registry
[08:39:31] <crutchy> all you need to run windows is a screen, mouse, keyboard and the registry
[08:39:40] <chromas> ooh ooh! When AV detects malware pooping in the registry, it should announce "The hive cluster is under attack!"
[08:39:48] <crutchy> lol
[08:39:48] <ciri> rofl
[08:40:16] <crutchy> and when you run out of disk space it should say "you require more lesbian gas!"
[08:40:42] <crutchy> for your pr0n
[08:41:00] <chromas> When it's time to renew the subscriptions, "You require more minerals"
[08:41:30] * chromas cooks with lesbian gas
[08:45:08] * chromas considers giving up and switching distros for gateway box
[08:46:01] <crutchy> anything with box in the name must be good
[08:46:22] <chromas> tama likes boxes
[08:46:34] <crutchy> tama, i like trains
[08:46:34] <exec> http://www.youtube.com
[08:46:39] <chromas> trains
[08:46:45] <chromas> i LiKe TraiNs
[08:46:46] <exec> http://www.youtube.com
[08:47:03] <crutchy> baysplosion!
[08:47:04] <exec> http://www.youtube.com
[08:47:04] <chromas> case_insensitivity++
[08:47:04] <Bender> karma - case_insensitivity: 1
[08:48:53] <crutchy> damn. no more youspewb for me :(
[08:50:15] <chromas> Aw
[08:50:24] <chromas> You'll have to stick to xkcd and Hackles
[08:51:02] <chromas> and oglaf
[08:51:13] <chromas> nsfw http://oglaf.com
[08:51:14] <monopoly> ^ 03Tower of Assumptions
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[09:08:36] <crutchy> hmm without youpube i've got less to distract me from coding
[09:09:01] <chromas> ah oh
[09:09:02] <crutchy> skittles++
[09:09:02] <Bender> karma - skittles: 3
[09:09:34] <crutchy> ~bot new dogfart
[09:10:00] <chromas> aw
[09:10:19] <chromas> well, new option; make it come in the channel it was called from
[09:10:43] <chromas> ~bot whistle dogfart
[09:10:47] <crutchy> yup
[09:11:14] <chromas> unless you don't want to see it come
[09:11:27] <chromas> s/it/a dogfart/
[09:11:27] <SexBot> <chromas> unless you don't want to see a dogfart come
[09:29:56] <Subsentient1> dog that farts skittles
[09:31:03] <chromas> I think they usually come out as m&ms
[09:31:08] <chromas> without the candy shell
[09:31:59] <Subsentient1> Defecate the rainbow, taste the rainbow
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[09:36:28] <crutchy> ~g'day KonomiNetbook
[09:36:28] <exec> * crutchy tosses a toilet bowl of red cordial to KonomiNetbook
[09:36:58] <crutchy> ~g'day Subsentient1
[09:36:59] <exec> * crutchy postulates a cheap plastic cup of testicle juice towards Subsentient1
[09:45:23] <crutchy> ooh
[09:49:59] <crutchy> just realised that exec might randomly output "poops an assful of testicle juice for $nick"
[09:50:21] <chromas> lol
[09:50:22] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[09:50:32] <chromas> that's where you're wrong, ciri
[09:51:25] <crutchy> https://github.com
[09:52:13] <crutchy> hmm is an anvil a container?
[09:52:20] <crutchy> 'tis now :p
[09:52:32] <chromas> It's a device for dropping on people
[09:52:42] <chromas> seems like something you'd want to put into a csv file or something
[09:52:49] <crutchy> or hurling at
[09:53:07] <crutchy> yeah i'll prolly eventually file-erize it
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[10:06:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:06:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 674
[10:06:32] <crutchy> ~time TheMightyBuzzard
[10:06:37] <exec> Tuesday, 26 August 2014 @ 5:06 am CDT - Ada, OK, USA
[10:06:44] <crutchy> right on time :D
[10:06:48] <crutchy> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[10:06:49] <exec> * crutchy flings a cold can of spew at TheMightyBuzzard
[10:07:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, headin out with the dad and lil brother fishing
[10:07:43] * chromas notices TheMightyBuzzard isn't in #archlinux. Wish we had that many users
[10:08:17] <crutchy> join us or we will unleash the orcish hoard!
[10:09:05] * chromas was considering whining in there about fonts but it sounds like effort
[10:09:07] <crutchy> chromas, more people will come if we have punch and pie
[10:09:26] * chromas punch and pie
[10:09:32] <chromas> also, Free Hat!
[10:09:48] <crutchy> free redhat with every arch install!
[10:10:15] <chromas> can't remove infinality; --force doesn't seem to work with remove
[10:10:34] <crutchy> try systemd --force infinality
[10:10:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Widespread Methane Seepage off US East Coast - http://sylnt.us - gas-passing
[10:11:04] <chromas> and give it a regex
[10:11:08] <crutchy> s/ty/ \/bucket/
[10:11:08] <SexBot> <crutchy> try systemd --force infinali /bucket
[10:11:16] <crutchy> ah crap
[10:11:30] * crutchy goes back to working on his orcish hoard
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[10:18:34] <dogfart> What's that smell?
[10:18:34] <dogfart> What's that smell?
[10:21:52] * TheMightyBuzzard goes out on a limb and guesses a dog fart
[10:22:32] <chromas> testing minion bots
[10:22:43] * chromas wishes pacman -R had a --force
[10:22:52] <chromas> to foce it
[10:23:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> force? you mean like -Rdd ?
[10:23:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> or maybe -Rd, i forget
[10:24:05] <chromas> don't see a d option
[10:24:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> try one d first
[10:24:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ignores dependencies
[10:24:26] <chromas> no I want it to stfu about dependencies and remove just the two packages without touching anything else
[10:24:54] <chromas> cool
[10:25:05] <chromas> not in the man page but dd worked
[10:25:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> google ftw
[10:25:27] <chromas> I guess there's always room for double-Ds
[10:25:36] <crutchy> or RDRR. get it?
[10:25:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck it, we'll make room if there isn't
[10:25:48] <chromas> hoping that changing to stock freetype will bring back muh fonts
[10:26:03] <crutchy> especially the fluffy ones
[10:26:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm out gents. gotta load up the boat
[10:26:44] <chromas> #arch <TheLemonMan> i've tried living w/o adblock, all i got was a thousand of ads about jesus
[10:26:54] <chromas> see ya, TMB!
[10:27:00] <crutchy> cya TheMightyBuzzard
[10:27:03] <chromas> thanks for all the tips!
[10:27:07] <crutchy> you're gunna need a bigger boat
[10:28:16] <chromas> (just what they said at the mitzvah)
[10:28:28] <chromas> or bris; whatever
[10:29:24] <crutchy> there's a funny hishe on youtube about jaws
[10:29:26] <chromas> muh fonts are back! yay!
[10:29:33] <chromas> infinality--
[10:29:33] <Bender> karma - infinality: -1
[10:30:29] <chromas> manpages-- while I'm at it since they're missing vital options
[10:30:29] <Bender> karma - manpages: -1
[10:31:39] <crutchy> yeah like how to clean a toilet bowl with a brick
[10:32:48] <chromas> I don't know how I even considered myself alive before I learned that
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[11:03:30] <chromas> ~weather
[11:03:57] <chromas> No weather
[11:03:58] <exec> weather for 10Walla Walla-Whitman College, WA, United States Of America at 2:27 am (PDT) ~ 96 mins ago: temp: 1018.3°C (65°F), dp: 108.9°C (48°F), press: 101016.3 mb (+0.3 mb/30 mins), humid: 1054%, wind: 10(no data) @ 10(no data)
[11:04:36] * chromas wishes the temp would stay closer to the median
[11:06:45] <crutchy> shit 4am!?
[11:06:51] <crutchy> ~time chromas
[11:06:56] <exec> Tuesday, 26 August 2014 @ 4:06 am PDT - Walla Walla, WA, USA
[11:07:23] <chromas> I'll sleep sometime some time
[11:07:42] <chromas> Editing error there
[11:07:44] <crutchy> you get to enjoy all my old farts from thismorning :p
[11:08:38] <chromas> Prevailing_westerlies++
[11:08:38] <Bender> karma - prevailing_westerlies: 1
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[11:36:26] <Subsentient1> anyone wanna test an ncurses breakout game?
[11:36:42] <crutchy> i borked by dogfart
[11:36:47] <Subsentient1> The code sucks but I wanted an ncurses breakout game, god dammit.
[11:36:53] <crutchy> s/by/my/
[11:36:53] <SexBot> <crutchy> i borked my dogfart
[11:54:21] <Subsentient1> crutchy: Fear the gerbils.
[11:54:35] * Subsentient1 wants someone to try his breakout and tell him it doesn't suck
[11:54:52] <Subsentient1> http://github.com :^D
[11:54:53] <monopoly> ^ 03Subsentient/bricktick · GitHub ( https://github.com )
[11:57:54] <crutchy> omg glowballs!
[12:02:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - ‘Robo Brain’ Will Teach Robots Everything from the Internet - http://sylnt.us - don't-let-it-read-the-comments
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[12:34:59] <crutchy> ~gday LaminatorX
[12:34:59] <exec> * crutchy slides a used franger of pancakes to LaminatorX
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[13:12:40] <SoyCow3153> did SN merge with pipedot or something? same submissions, same comments on both sites..
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[13:14:57] <crutchy> maybe |. has a scraper
[13:15:07] <crutchy> (or SN has a |. scraper)
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[13:16:18] <crutchy> ~gday Woods
[13:16:19] <exec> * crutchy offers a cold can of milo to Woods
[13:16:23] <crutchy> ~gday mechanicjay
[13:16:24] <exec> * crutchy passes an assfull of testicle juice to mechanicjay
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[13:16:45] <Woods> Hi. I have no idea what milo is, but it sounds gross.
[13:16:54] <mechanicjay> dear lord
[13:16:54] <crutchy> ~define milo
[13:16:55] <exec> [soylent] milo: http://en.wikipedia.org
[13:17:36] <Woods> ah
[13:23:44] <crutchy> or maybe neither |. nor SN have scrapers, but a 3rd party is scraping one & posting to the other
[13:25:54] <LaminatorX> There are people who submit stories to multiple sites. It's a little annoying when it looks like sites are copying, but it's not like anybody owes us (or the others) an exclusive.
[13:26:18] <LaminatorX> Comments though would be strange. Like word for word?
[13:27:11] <LaminatorX> MMnn, pancakes. Thanks, crutchy. What's a franger?
[13:27:30] <crutchy> ~define franger
[13:27:34] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Franger: 1) a controceptive device (condom) 2)insult
[13:28:04] <LaminatorX> Hmm, perhaps a less-than-apetizing way to serve pancakes.
[13:28:19] <crutchy> http://pipedot.org
[13:28:20] <monopoly> ^ 02Pipedot Article: 03 ‘Robo Brain’ Will Teach Robots Everything from the Internet02 (2 comments)
[13:28:29] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:29] <monopoly> ^ 04SN article 03 ‘Robo Brain’ Will Teach Robots Everything from the Internet 04(2 comments):
[13:28:56] <crutchy> looks like Horse With Stripes cross-posted a comment
[13:29:12] <Woods> lol
[13:29:13] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[13:29:23] <Woods> I think that is more hilarious than anything else.
[13:29:34] <crutchy> doesn't necessarily automated
[13:30:40] <LaminatorX> Check their usernames on |. though. "by horsewithstripes-1@soylent-news.org " "y c0lo@soylent-news.org"
[13:30:51] <crutchy> this looks like it may be automated though:
[13:30:52] <crutchy> http://pipedot.org
[13:30:52] <monopoly> ^ 02Pipedot Article: 03 Widespread Methane Seepage off US East Coast02 (11 comments)
[13:30:53] <LaminatorX> s/"y/"by
[13:30:53] * SexBot offers LemanatorX a /
[13:30:57] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:58] <monopoly> ^ 04SN article 03 Widespread Methane Seepage off US East Coast 04(10 comments):
[13:31:04] <chromas> And the second one only has the block quote
[13:31:52] <LaminatorX> Identical timestamps on the comments too.
[13:32:44] <crutchy> i guess if pipedot is scraping (but acknowledging the source) its kind of a plug
[13:33:03] <crutchy> maybe we should return the favor. sort of like syndication
[13:33:11] <mechanicjay> Yeah, on the pipedot comments the usernames are all <un@soylent-news.org>
[13:33:54] <crutchy> seems like a pretty cool feature
[13:34:24] <crutchy> wonder how it scrapes
[13:34:34] * crutchy opens github to find |. source
[13:35:30] <chromas> They can scrape each other, then scrape each other's scrapings...
[13:35:51] <chromas> Linkfarming++
[13:35:51] <Bender> karma - linkfarming: 1
[13:37:33] <crutchy> https://github.com
[13:37:37] <crutchy> ah crap
[13:38:07] <crutchy> https://github.com
[13:38:33] <crutchy> lol love the function name: http_slurp
[13:38:33] <ciri> hehehe
[13:39:30] <crutchy> very cool
[13:39:56] <crutchy> and in php :D
[13:40:45] <LaminatorX> Wow, it looks like 90% of the content over there are our scrapes.
[13:41:14] <crutchy> there's a crapload of work in that app. seems a waste not to use it
[13:41:36] <crutchy> can be used as a SN mirror
[13:41:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Radical New Theory Could Kill the Multiverse Hypothesis - http://sylnt.us - all-things-great-and-small-how-does-theory-explain-them-all?
[13:42:36] <crutchy> on 503 day we can all hop on over to |. to get our fix
[13:43:24] <chromas> Plus we can mod everything there
[13:43:38] <chromas> Unlimited mod points
[13:44:06] <crutchy> chromas, s/oi/a/
[13:44:06] <SexBot> <crutchy> <chromas> Unlimited mod pants
[13:44:26] <crutchy> mod_pants++
[13:44:26] <Bender> karma - mod_pants: 1
[13:44:38] <crutchy> the_hustle++
[13:44:38] <Bender> karma - the_hustle: 2
[13:45:29] <crutchy> the user links are actually links to SN
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[13:49:44] <crutchy> g'day janrinok
[13:49:44] <ciri> hello crutchy
[13:49:51] <crutchy> hi ciri
[13:52:30] <crutchy> i like that pipedot has lots of poll question options
[13:52:39] <crutchy> a proper poll
[13:56:38] <crutchy> who do you fear most? 1. the NSA 2. the boogerman 3. alien 4. sigourney weaver 5. batman 6. the FBI 7. the government 8. obama 9. illegal immigrants 10. the eye of sauron 11. natalie portman's chest 12. miley cirus 13. friday the 13th 14. disco 15. spiders 16. snakes 17. spiders and snakes 18. spiders with snakes for legs 19. snakes with lasers 20. jaws 21. natalie portman's chest 22. natalie portman's chest 23. zombies 24. the end of the
[13:56:38] <crutchy> world 25. religion
[13:56:59] <Konomi> aliens or nsa
[13:57:01] <Konomi> hard choice
[13:58:15] <crutchy> s/who/what
[13:58:21] <paulej72> snakes on a plane
[13:58:30] <paulej72> wtf
[13:58:36] <crutchy> especially drugged up hollywood snakes
[14:14:22] <Blackmoore> alright guys, I'll take on natalie portman and her chest.
[14:14:48] <Blackmoore> somebody talk batman into dealing with the snakes and spiders
[14:15:05] <Blackmoore> I'm sure disco and zombies will cancel out
[14:16:05] <crutchy> i thought of throwing miley cirus off the back of a boat for jaws to deal with but i think that would only make jaws swim away in fright
[14:16:57] <crutchy> religion will take care of the end of the world
[14:17:43] <crutchy> homer simpson has the boogerman covered
[14:21:18] * Subsentient cries because nobody wants to try his breakout game
[14:21:47] * crutchy is working on user tracking for exec
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[14:24:33] <Subsentient> Nurble nurble
[14:31:35] <Blackmoore> Subsentient: I'd like to try but i'm at work. i think that people would notice
[14:31:40] <Blackmoore> but give me the link
[14:31:44] <Subsentient> eheh
[14:32:00] <Subsentient> Blackmoore: Yeh sure, just being a turdy little attention grabber. :^)
[14:32:08] <Subsentient> http://github.com
[14:32:09] <monopoly> ^ 03Subsentient/bricktick · GitHub ( https://github.com )
[14:32:16] <Subsentient> just type make to compile.
[14:32:20] <Subsentient> you'll need ncurses
[14:32:21] <Subsentient> that's it
[14:32:29] <Subsentient> works on BSD and Linux
[14:32:38] * crutchy curses ncurses
[14:32:43] <Blackmoore> no need to explain the need for attention.
[14:35:56] <crutchy> ~restart
[14:35:58] <exec> successfully saved buckets file
[14:36:05] <Subsentient> $restart
[14:36:05] <aqu4> Be right back.
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[14:36:06] <ciri> me too, smoke time! aqu4
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[14:36:21] * Subsentient hands aqu4 the first place restart speed ribbon
[14:38:18] <crutchy> sagasu++
[14:38:18] <Bender> karma - sagasu: 2
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[14:44:11] <Subsentient> crutchy: restart failed or?
[14:44:35] * Subsentient remembers aqu4 having epic restart failures
[14:44:37] <crutchy> restarts to #
[14:44:40] <Subsentient> ahh
[14:44:56] <Subsentient> I remember her joining a channel and crashing from a segfault immediately after.
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[14:45:12] <crutchy> just wanted to make sure it built the user buckets in # before setting loose in here
[14:45:13] <Subsentient> Nowadays I just use exec
[14:45:16] <Subsentient> exec() I mean
[14:45:33] <Subsentient> crutchy: So it keeps a DB of users in each channel now?
[14:45:40] <crutchy> sort of
[14:46:04] <Subsentient> crutchy: how sort of?
[14:46:37] <crutchy> it keeps an index of nicks, and each nick has a few fields including array of channels, account, auth (@/+)
[14:46:50] <crutchy> i called them buckets
[14:47:03] <Subsentient> Yeah for me it's kinda backwards. Each channel has a list of users.
[14:47:05] <crutchy> sort of ipc memory management
[14:47:42] <crutchy> i wanna be able to query a nick
[14:48:26] <crutchy> if i wanna query a channel i can echo a command to get a list of bucket indexes and match the prefix from that
[14:48:51] <Subsentient> Yeah I can do that but the code is complicated. The dbs of users in each channel came after the rest of the bot was built, so it took some shoehorning.
[14:49:04] <Subsentient> And the code is not good.
[14:49:10] <Subsentient> Actually most of aqu4's code is not great.
[14:49:40] <Subsentient> It's ok, but no comments and it's very confusing. Networking is particularly bad.
[14:49:59] <Subsentient> crutchy: you got source for your bot?
[14:50:18] <crutchy> ~
[14:50:19] <exec> http://sylnt.us
[14:50:48] <crutchy> github is here: https://github.com
[14:51:44] <Subsentient> Well php looks weird but at least you have switch and case.
[14:51:58] <crutchy> similarish to c
[14:52:06] <crutchy> but a bit more lax
[14:52:15] <crutchy> s/bit/lot/
[14:52:15] <SexBot> <crutchy> but a lot more lax
[14:52:29] <Subsentient> yeh C is very strict. Real easy to shoot yourself in the foot. My feet are swiss cheese.
[14:53:14] <crutchy> where the nuts and bolts are: https://github.com
[14:53:14] <ciri> hmmm thats a good question crutchy
[14:53:31] <Subsentient> I was just reading that.
[14:53:36] <Subsentient> So why use codes like 110 etc?
[14:54:19] <crutchy> just made it easy to code
[14:54:48] <Subsentient> Well what do they do?
[14:54:54] <Subsentient> I don't understand that part.
[14:54:55] <crutchy> validate messages
[14:55:03] <Subsentient> Ehh
[14:55:06] * Subsentient is still confused
[14:55:40] <swiss> Subsentient: use golang instead
[14:55:50] * Subsentient pukes on swiss
[14:55:56] <crutchy> not so much from the irc server, but because scripts can talk to the bot using a similar message syntax to irc, messages are validated to make sure the bot doesn't try to interpret a jibberish command as something its not
[14:56:19] <Subsentient> swiss: I saw golang. It feels like compiled python. I don't want that.
[14:56:33] <swiss> Subsentient: you realize it's basically new C?
[14:56:39] <swiss> and it's C compatible?
[14:56:47] <Subsentient> swiss: Yes, it even has pointers, but the syntax is alien
[14:56:49] <swiss> it's stricter than C
[14:56:56] <Subsentient> I like a *weak* type system.
[14:57:02] <crutchy> a pascal version of c?
[14:57:03] <Subsentient> I literally prefer weak typing.
[14:57:22] <swiss> also, the syntax took me less than a day to learn
[14:57:25] <swiss> like... all of it
[14:57:35] <swiss> it doesn't feal like you're using strong typed though
[14:57:44] <swiss> because := is so great
[14:58:07] <crutchy> hmm just noticed a couple of custom commands in the standard command function
[14:58:11] <Subsentient> swiss: Google made it, so there must be something else wrong with it.
[14:58:33] <Subsentient> I still don't like it.
[14:58:42] <swiss> is there something wrong with Git?
[14:58:46] <Subsentient> I like C's syntax. I don't think they even have preincrement in go.
[14:58:58] <Subsentient> Git's fine, but Linus was a good force behind that.
[14:59:12] <crutchy> := is so pascal :D
[14:59:25] <Subsentient> Personally I think the = and == operators were a mistake.
[14:59:26] <crutchy> pascal++
[14:59:26] <Bender> karma - pascal: 17
[14:59:32] <Subsentient> = for equality, := for assignment.
[14:59:39] <Subsentient> but oh well, that's fine.
[14:59:56] <swiss> just like ken thompson was a force behind golang
[15:00:02] <Subsentient> swiss: C is a simple language. I can claim to know most of the secrets of the C standard itself.
[15:00:26] <Subsentient> swiss: I don't like the syntax. It feels fisher price.
[15:02:57] <Blackmoore> pascal++
[15:02:57] <Bender> karma - pascal: 18
[15:03:01] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[15:03:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 675
[15:04:48] <Subsentient> Personally I'd create a new C derivative focused on resolving core missing features of C while retaining complete compatibility.
[15:05:12] <Subsentient> I'd called it C squared (C2)
[15:06:09] <crutchy> ~users account Bender
[15:06:11] <exec> account for "Bender" is "deadpork"
[15:06:33] <Subsentient> I'd add functions within functions, a new string library that doesn't suck horse balls, perhaps vectors, and remove the restriction that function pointers need point to only an existing function. You could point it at an array of unsigned char and execute new code.
[15:06:58] <crutchy> might be able to get back to irciv if this thing works ok
[15:07:00] <crutchy> :D
[15:07:08] <Subsentient> :^)
[15:07:36] <Subsentient> Maybe even multiple return values.
[15:07:56] <Subsentient> But I would *not* break C compatibility, and it wouldn't take too much to add the features of C2 to an existing C compiler
[15:08:06] <Subsentient> It'd be designed for people who like to do the weird stuff.
[15:08:24] <crutchy> that's what matlab is for
[15:08:39] <crutchy> bunch of weirdos :p
[15:08:41] <Subsentient> lol
[15:08:48] <Subsentient> crutchy: I am thorougly saddened that I can
[15:08:50] <Subsentient> cannot
[15:09:00] <Subsentient> just execute the contents of an array as if it were a function
[15:09:12] <Subsentient> Some compilers allow it, sure
[15:09:21] <Subsentient> but it violates the C standard.
[15:09:29] <crutchy> matlab is the god of matrix manipulation
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[15:10:35] * Subsentient dreams of casting int (*)(void) to void*
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[15:12:05] <crutchy> not sure what that typecast means
[15:12:33] <crutchy> looks like a pointer to nothing?
[15:12:42] <Subsentient> crutchy: Casts a pointer to a function returning int and accepting no arguments to a void pointer, a pointer which in C doesn't even need a cast to be assigned to or from any object type.
[15:13:31] <crutchy> can make a pointer to a function/procedure in pascal. not sure how in C
[15:14:16] <Subsentient> crutchy: you can do it in C too
[15:14:28] <Subsentient> you just can't execute the contents of an array as if it were a function
[15:14:32] <Subsentient> That's what I want
[15:14:36] <crutchy> ah
[15:15:07] <crutchy> classes sort of give you that in a way
[15:15:11] <Subsentient> e.g. int (*pointertofunction[2])(void) is an array of two pointers to a function that returns int and accepts no arguments
[15:15:17] <crutchy> array.dosomething
[15:15:40] <Subsentient> crutchy: I'm talking about filling an array with arbitrary bytes and then calling it like a function to execute this random code.
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[15:16:51] <crutchy> i guess normally you just make a class method do that, or if you do it in the constructor all you have to do is instantiate the class
[15:17:11] <Subsentient> crutchy: I'm still sure you don't get what I mean.
[15:17:19] <crutchy> prolly :p
[15:18:10] <Subsentient> I mean, fill an array of unsigned chars, INTEGERS, an array of 8 bit INTEGERS, with random data that just happens to be valid machine code, and call it like a function by casting the pointer to the array to a function pointer, therefore executing completely NEW CODE THAT DID NOT COME BUILT INTO THE PROGRAM>
[15:18:12] <crutchy> in matlab you can do [A]/[B] where [A] and [B] are matrices
[15:18:46] <crutchy> you talking about a self-modifying program?
[15:18:55] <Subsentient> Yes.
[15:18:56] <crutchy> i heard about that but never got into it much
[15:19:05] <Subsentient> It's technically illegal in C.
[15:19:07] <crutchy> can do it in pascal
[15:19:16] <Subsentient> I wish I could do it in C.
[15:19:24] <Subsentient> You can also have functions in functions in pascal.
[15:19:26] <Subsentient> I want that too.
[15:19:57] <crutchy> i don't tend to nest functions. very confusing, and scope can be easily mixed
[15:20:15] <Subsentient> Ehh, I can do it so it's purdy.
[15:20:18] <Subsentient> I've done it before.
[15:20:27] <Subsentient> It's for organization purposes.
[15:20:36] <crutchy> that's what classes are for :D
[15:20:46] <Subsentient> Yeah, but they aren't pure procedural.
[15:20:52] <crutchy> true
[15:20:56] <Subsentient> Honestly OOP gives me a headache.
[15:21:28] <crutchy> you don't have to go all polymorphic. can just use classes as containers with methods
[15:21:46] <crutchy> very useful for that
[15:22:14] <crutchy> like records but with functions that can operate on individual objects of that class
[15:22:31] * Subsentient throws up a little in his mouth
[15:23:12] <crutchy> sometimes just easier than throwing pointers around everywhere
[15:23:30] <crutchy> i guess you are throwing pointers with objects, but they don't seems as much like pointers
[15:23:38] <Subsentient> I am a firm believer that the language itself should be built on simple paradigms. Procedural programming is the best for this IMHO. It can be done right but it requires additional features not present in C family languages.
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[15:24:17] <crutchy> object pascal is chock full of awesomeness from both worlds, with additional benefit of strong typing
[15:24:42] <Subsentient> I hate strong typing. I don't see the advantage mostly.
[15:24:53] <Subsentient> I wish type-punning was blessed by the standard.
[15:25:01] <crutchy> just makes me less lazy
[15:25:10] <crutchy> php makes me *very* lazy
[15:26:04] <crutchy> also makes it easier to pick up errors at compile time, cos the compiler knows what the type should be
[15:28:22] <Subsentient> Yeh true.
[15:28:30] <Subsentient> That's the only advantage to me.
[15:29:04] <Subsentient> Of course for me, although I want these features, I won't use them because C prohibits them.
[15:29:36] <Subsentient> I study the standard constantly and hate undefined behaviour so much.
[15:30:29] <crutchy> that's not a bad thing. just limits a bit of some of the more funky stuff that's possible i guess
[15:31:20] <crutchy> though you can always try to come up with workarounds that still comply with the standard
[15:31:37] <crutchy> code your own rtti or something :p
[15:32:16] * crutchy like reinventing wheels
[15:33:25] <crutchy> *likes
[15:33:35] <Subsentient> heh
[15:34:09] <Subsentient> I guess I'm lucky, I don't get heisenbugs in my code very often
[15:34:23] <Subsentient> I don't have those problems commonly because I code in a way that prevents this.
[15:34:37] <Subsentient> All things get initialized, all loops get bounds checking even if useless, etc
[15:36:14] <Subsentient> It's been a VERY long time since I had a heisenbug.
[15:36:17] <Subsentient> Thankfully.
[15:36:28] <Subsentient> Of course that doesn't make up for the atrocities I do in the rest of my code.
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[15:36:41] <Subsentient> nested if statement filled functions, comma operator abuse laziness, etc
[15:38:31] <crutchy> exec is becoming a bit unwieldy
[15:38:42] <crutchy> its not even a big program
[15:50:47] <crutchy> yay i can get the list of nicks in a channel now
[15:51:12] <crutchy> bit more complicated than getting channels for a nick
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[16:52:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Database to Track 'Suspicious Memes' on Twitter - http://sylnt.us - most-of-twitter-to-be-flagged
[17:21:38] <ar> http://matplotlib.org *_*
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[17:40:31] <Lagg> Is this guy just being a smartass or is someone really writing something that cross posts to pipedot http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:31] <monopoly> ^ 04SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[17:40:52] <Lagg> Either way really I've seen some pointless things in my time but that's one of the bigger ones
[18:03:34] <Blackmoore> i dunno; has anyone cross posted soylent on slashdot?
[18:04:23] <Blackmoore> or technocrat -- anywhere
[18:14:34] <paulej72> http://pipedot.org the whole SN site has been scraped
[18:31:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Lesson in Economic Analysis from the Minimum Wage Debate - http://sylnt.us - comparing-apples-to-oranges
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[18:47:46] <mechanicjay> we were talking about this this morning, they're just screen scraping us: https://github.com
[18:50:44] <mechanicjay> a pretty sophisticated scrape, but a scrape none the less.
[18:50:56] <mechanicjay> thanks to crutchy for digging up that link.
[18:58:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> what i don't get is why he wrote a scraper when we have a perfectly functional rss feed
[19:04:33] <mechanicjay> he gets comments with a scrape
[19:08:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> mechanicjay, you have iptables access on fluorine, yes? fix his little red wagon. with a line of -j REJECT
[19:09:51] <mechanicjay> yes I do, but we need some consensus from staff on what our response is going to be, if any.
[19:12:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i should have had slash un-entity any entities for rendering so i could use comments to test the sql/javascript injection vulnerabilities of his php script
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[19:16:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> SoylentNews should pioneer a protocol for cross-site feeds that includes commenting
[19:16:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess i could try a code comment
[19:17:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> Could be super-useful for something equivalent to (but better than) the Diaspora Project.
[19:21:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> interesting idea but i'm busy being cheesed off.
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[19:24:36] <Lagg> TheMightyBuzzard, mechanicjay, paulej72: That is asshattery
[19:25:36] <Lagg> It's not even a matter that it's being scraped, I've worked with people who write stuff to pull from my projects like optf2. Because they asked me before doing it. Clearly no one asked anyone at soylent.
[19:26:30] <mechanicjay> It's kind of an interesting legal question as well. I mean, the source is clearly SN, it's a question of copyright -- who "owns" the stories and comments on the site? Is it SN the org, the individual authors?
[19:26:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> the fun bit is the comments. they're property of the people who wrote them so massive copyright violation.
[19:27:03] <Lagg> That's disgusting
[19:27:25] <Lagg> TheMightyBuzzard: I wouldn't be surprised if you could do sql injection because even by PHP standards they're doing their queries bad
[19:27:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but we're too tight to let me as a normal user.
[19:28:02] <Lagg> https://github.com for example, those are the immediate indicators that you could probably find some kind of hole.
[19:28:24] <Lagg> sql() may do sanitizing but I'm not seeing any usage of the builtin mysql sanitizer functions
[19:28:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> ouch, yep
[19:28:43] <Lagg> and those are basically a must if you're going to do anything with mysql
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[19:30:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally i don't care about copyright violation. i do care about douchbaggery though.
[19:30:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://pipedot.org
[19:30:26] <monopoly> ^ 02Pipedot Comment by themightybuzzard-1: 03Hello Pipedot 02(Score: 3)
[19:30:51] <Lagg> That permalink format pisses me off more than slashcode's
[19:30:55] <Lagg> and that's saying something >:(
[19:30:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
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[19:33:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell with it. ima take a nap.
[19:33:44] <Lagg> For some time now I've been trying to withhold judgement about pipedot since I thought they were just as earnest as anyone else but this shows me otherwise, you know what kills me though is that someone saw slashcode and went "oh god, the dependencies, the perl, the templates... oh god... I WILL FIX THIS WITH PHP"
[19:34:12] * TheMightyBuzzard snickers
[19:36:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> that's like trying to water your garden with this http://i.imgur.com
[19:52:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Where do You Find Stories to Submit? - http://sylnt.us - introducing-Regurgitator
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[20:07:50] <mrcoolbp> bryan: ping
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[20:41:39] <crutchy> hi mrcoolbp
[20:41:39] <ciri> yeah, yeah hi HI crutchy
[20:41:50] <mrcoolbp> hi crutchy
[20:42:13] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: SexBot??
[20:42:13] * SexBot is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[20:43:10] <crutchy> seems like people are pissed about pipedot scraper. i'm not though. i think its cool, and its attributed to SN (there are even links to SN). i think of it more like syndication
[20:43:19] <crutchy> lol sexbot isn't mine
[20:43:19] * SexBot is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[20:43:36] <Subsentient> So that's why pipedot is an EXACT DUPLICATE of our content!
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[20:44:02] <Subsentient> $burrito JamesNZ
[20:44:02] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at JamesNZ
[20:44:35] <JamesNZ> $burrito Subsentient
[20:44:35] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Subsentient
[20:45:06] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: would have been nice if bryan had mentioned he was going to bewilder our servers with that
[20:45:14] <crutchy> and its not like SN owns the comments. it specifically disowns them in a disclaimer like /. doesn't it?
[20:45:20] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: Wanna try the new bricktick?
[20:45:25] <paulej72> crutchy: i think the attribution stuff is a bit unclear. Also i probably led to yesterday’s gluster hicup
[20:45:54] <crutchy> in what way?
[20:45:58] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: Sure :)
[20:46:04] <crutchy> load?
[20:46:05] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: Is it on github?
[20:46:08] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: yes
[20:46:11] <Subsentient> my github
[20:46:17] <Subsentient> http://github.com
[20:46:18] <monopoly> ^ 03Subsentient/bricktick · GitHub ( https://github.com )
[20:46:34] * JamesNZ clones
[20:48:27] <mechanicjay> crutchy: I though so, but I can't find any text to that effect on the site ATM.
[20:49:00] * chromas wonders why unmounting usb devices deletes their nodes from /dev
[20:49:14] <crutchy> u should be able to work out no of hits from pipedot ip, no? briefly looking at the code it appears to be a crontab so should be easy to spot in logs/stats
[20:49:22] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: Looking good :) I like those extra tokens you get from some bricks.
[20:49:31] <crutchy> mechanicjay, its in links
[20:49:31] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: Arkanoid style
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[20:49:47] <crutchy> search for soylent on any story
[20:49:54] <crutchy> *page search
[20:50:22] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: Red # is slow ball, Green % is 1000 score, and Yellow @ is life.
[20:51:09] <paulej72> there is no direct link to Soylentnews.org anywhere on the story. all of the user links go to soylent-news.org
[20:51:09] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: Ahhhh.
[20:51:09] <mechanicjay> damnit, got it, thanks
[20:51:47] <mechanicjay> regardless, it says the comment is my responsibilty, indicating that I own the comment, not SN. I have willingly posted the comment to SN, not anywhere else.
[20:52:48] * Subsentient is becoming a loyal soylentil
[20:53:20] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: Flag this: http://atlanta.craigslist.org
[20:53:20] <monopoly> ^ 03Free Dog Sitter
[20:53:46] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: How?
[20:54:06] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: the blue prohibited link
[20:54:25] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: Done.
[20:54:49] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: thanks
[20:55:08] <crutchy> fair enough. i'd be a bit careful about jumping up and down wildly about it too much though, cos SN may be seen as the bad guy. if its causing server load issues fair enough. if you really have a problem with scrapers, take your issues out on google as well
[20:55:20] * chromas creates buzzsoylent and loads it up with ads
[20:55:57] <crutchy> and thewaybackmachine and any other archiving site
[20:56:14] <mechanicjay> crutchy: I agree, the response needs to be diplomatic, no knee jerk reactions. Server load was mostly yesterday during the bulk load, now it's just a handful of queries every 15 minutes.
[20:56:35] <crutchy> ah cool
[20:57:21] <crutchy> not that i'm advocating the scraping. i just think the code looks pretty sweet, but don't wanna chuck any tanties like you said
[20:57:40] <chromas> crutchy: s/y t/ y p/
[20:57:40] <SexBot> <chromas> <crutchy> not that i'm advocating the scraping. i just think the code looks pretty sweet, but don't wanna chuck an y panties like you said
[20:57:54] <paulej72> crutchy: most other crawlers are smart enough to pace themselves so that the target site does not notice them. They are doing a good thing by doing this.
[20:57:56] <crutchy> yeah that too :D
[20:58:27] <crutchy> if it spreads the SN name its not bad
[20:58:43] <crutchy> as long as it doesn't cause any technical issues
[20:58:45] <paulej72> I still don’t see the name on the site though
[20:59:18] <chromas> next to each name, even though they are hyphenated
[20:59:33] <crutchy> on the home page top story (japan thingy for me) the AnonTechie link is to SN
[20:59:44] <chromas> "by janrinok@soylent-news.org in news on"
[20:59:46] <paulej72> If I were doing this all of the SN articles would start From SoylentNews.org: Scraped Headline
[20:59:59] <paulej72> it is soylentnews.org
[21:00:08] <paulej72> the links do not work
[21:00:11] <chromas> yeah
[21:00:21] <chromas> it's an approximation :)
[21:00:43] <crutchy> link to AnonTechie worked for me
[21:00:55] <crutchy> jumped to https://soylentnews.org
[21:00:56] <monopoly> ^ 03AnonTechie - SoylentNews User
[21:01:04] <paulej72> Almost no better than those sites that scrpae google groups and repost the topic headings
[21:01:38] <Lagg> Subsentient: It infuriates me that you look like you have good coding conventions except for that CamelCase. Can't you tell how infuriated I am.
[21:01:39] <paulej72> crutchy: that link was in the story and was generated by SN.
[21:01:58] <chromas> Some of the others don't, though, like https://janrinok.soylent-news.org which redirects to pipecode for some reason
[21:02:17] <chromas> camelCase++
[21:02:17] <Bender> karma - camelcase: 1
[21:02:21] <Subsentient> Lagg: You will be assimilated
[21:02:23] <Lagg> C is 100% under_score material, now and forever
[21:02:26] <chromas> caseInsensitivity++
[21:02:26] <Bender> karma - caseinsensitivity: 1
[21:02:52] <crutchy> ah yeah i see that now. goes to a pipedot page
[21:03:15] <crutchy> thats a bit sneaky :p
[21:03:27] <Subsentient> The irony is that I end up hating most other code written with CamelCase, because the authors are usually new-age-dick-in-hand we-know-better-than-you-outdated-unix-bastards types.
[21:03:28] <crutchy> pesky -
[21:03:48] <chromas> Subsentient: that's an invalid variable name
[21:03:50] <Subsentient> I prefer camelcase when reading code however.
[21:04:02] <Subsentient> chromas: Can't use a - in a variable name.
[21:04:09] <chromas> Right
[21:04:13] <Lagg> You can in lisp!
[21:04:15] * crutchy prefers donuts
[21:04:36] <paulej72> use slash and get both under_score and camelCase
[21:04:36] * Subsentient pukes a bucket of parenthesis on Lagg
[21:04:38] <chromas> new_age_dick_in_hand_we_know_better_than_you_outdated_unix_bastards++
[21:04:39] <Bender> karma - new_age_dick_in_hand_we_know_better_than_you_outdated_unix_bastards: 1
[21:04:43] <Lagg> and thus the argument for everything to be written with lisp (any dialect, it's all gewd) is strengthened
[21:04:45] <crutchy> no not *that* kind chromas :p
[21:05:33] <Subsentient> Probability of a CamelCase guy liking systemd shoot up 1000% compared to an underscore guy.
[21:05:44] <Subsentient> Yet, Epoch, my init system, uses camelcase.
[21:05:50] <Subsentient> No regrets.
[21:06:17] <Lagg> I like some of systemd and I also like some of the usecases for camelcase. You might be onto something with this correlation.
[21:06:20] <chromas> camelCase is great; gotta get those humps from somewhere
[21:06:39] <crutchy> !grab Lagg
[21:06:39] <Bender> Added quote 232
[21:07:03] <Subsentient> Yet I am a loyal camelcaser, but I hate systemd more than I hate haircuts, heartburn, and filthy dubstep combined
[21:07:09] * chromas thinks there's a correlation between perl usage and smoking
[21:07:21] <Subsentient> There probably is
[21:07:38] <crutchy> not *that* smoking though?
[21:07:41] <Lagg> I think that you really love it and are just denying yourself
[21:07:48] <Subsentient> lolll
[21:07:54] <chromas> systemctl start $burrito
[21:08:13] <crutchy> systemd --tay turd
[21:08:24] <crutchy> s/tay/lay
[21:08:24] * SexBot tosses a / to crytchy
[21:08:28] <crutchy> pfft
[21:08:30] <chromas> ~define tay
[21:08:35] <Lagg> You retreat at night to your closet where you have a fedora system running and just stare at it while carving systemctl subcommands into your chest
[21:08:35] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Tay: a sexy biatch
[21:08:40] <crutchy> ooh
[21:09:05] <chromas> systemctl start tay
[21:09:27] <Lagg> and a full height mirror that you go in front of completely nude and say "Would you daemon-reload me? I'd daemon-reload me"
[21:09:38] <Subsentient> Lagg: I run Fedora on my servers and I *love* Fedora and Red Hat distros in general, but the first thing I do is load Epoch on them and nuke systemd
[21:09:55] <Subsentient> Then I nuke GRUB for syslinux
[21:10:16] <Subsentient> Yum is incredible.
[21:10:47] <Lagg> I agree, the way it messes up systems to an absurd degree is probably why I have gotten so many sysadmin jobs
[21:10:59] <Subsentient> But it's still better to have your own system I think, so I run SubLinux, which runs on i586 and is built PRECISELY to my tastes, including *full* consolekit support and Epoch 1.1.1 as the init system
[21:11:05] * chromas has 30 *ctl in /(usr/)(s)bin
[21:11:36] <Lagg> I sure miss having real jobs that aren't cleaning up after people :(
[21:11:37] <Subsentient> The boot times for my servers have dropped so much with only Epoch loading the necessities, I'm telling you.
[21:12:18] * Subsentient pokes Lagg and whispers http://github.com
[21:12:19] <monopoly> ^ 03Subsentient/bricktick · GitHub ( https://github.com )
[21:12:36] * chromas loads wine-on-cygwin-on-wine just for the boot time enhancement
[21:12:47] <Lagg> What about it, I just looked at it as indicated by my comment regarding convention
[21:12:55] <Subsentient> ahh
[21:13:05] <Subsentient> nice :^)
[21:13:12] <Subsentient> I figured you were reading something else.
[21:14:06] <Lagg> No but I decided to when I saw the bizarre usages of extern
[21:15:36] <Lagg> I always like looking at something ncurses related. Or any kind of C really.
[21:15:43] <Subsentient> Lagg: how bizarre is bizarre? extern for every function forward-decl. That's my convention.
[21:16:06] <Lagg> Don't care where, don't care who by, don't even really care about quality. I'm just that tired of so much scripting and poking at HTML :|
[21:16:38] <Lagg> It's just completely unnecessary for prototypes, especially considering that this isn't a lib of any kind. It's just one binary
[21:16:59] <Lagg> Declarations rather, don't know where I got prototype from
[21:17:12] <Lagg> Oh right because I've been doing nothing for the past 5 years besides scripting shit
[21:17:16] <Lagg> '
[21:17:20] <Subsentient> Lagg: Yes it is. It does *nothing* at all for prototypes, as mandated by the C standard.
[21:17:23] <Lagg> NEW CLIENT STOP
[21:17:34] <Subsentient> I just do it because I do it for variables and it's clearer.
[21:17:50] <Lagg> and that's why it's bizarre. It's pointless at best and really confusing for people who look at it
[21:18:06] <Subsentient> Lagg: No, I see a lot of code that does the same thing.
[21:18:11] <Lagg> If there's any way to discourage people from reading or contributing to your stuff using things just because you can is one of the bigger ways
[21:18:26] <Subsentient> Lagg: If they are confused, they don't know C.
[21:18:39] <Lagg> You probably see it because they're libs or hacks or possibly even gcc workarounds. Right now it's definitely pointless in this kind of context.
[21:19:11] <Subsentient> Lagg: no, you don't get it. extern on a function does NOTHING. It's POINTLESS. It makes NO DIFFERENCE, FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE.
[21:19:16] <Subsentient> It's a style choice, purely.
[21:19:30] <Lagg> It also makes it look like you don't know what extern does
[21:19:59] <Subsentient> Lagg: Dude, 99% of fuckin' Warzone 2100's code uses extern for functions, and I've see the same in many places
[21:20:36] <Lagg> Considering the period around which it was written it's probably for one of the reasons I described above
[21:21:48] <Subsentient> heh
[21:21:50] <Lagg> and even then I'd be kind of on the fence about it. But the authors were likely just working off of existing knowledge and thus went with it just in case.
[21:25:42] <Subsentient> Lagg: https://github.com
[21:28:19] <Lagg> I did shut up about it :/ and honestly at the end of the day it's your code. I have my own silly tendencies (like aforementioned under_score for C) too.
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[21:46:13] <Subsentient> Lagg: Yeh, no problem.
[21:46:17] <Subsentient> It's no big deal.
[21:46:24] <Subsentient> Honestly, I do like my extern for functions.
[21:46:40] <Subsentient> It does seem odd but it's a clear style choice done for clarity.
[21:48:02] <crutchy> Subsentient, you'd like debian stable... it hasn't been infected with systemd yet :D
[21:48:09] <Subsentient> lol
[21:48:24] <Subsentient> I have my own system. Debian stable is too ancient for me to use.
[21:50:00] * crutchy wonders if there's a pyramidd
[21:54:49] <crutchy> still not sure if user tracking is working yet. the get_channel_nicks function returned a weird list of nicks
[21:55:20] <crutchy> its prolly the poop function taking a memory dump
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[21:58:14] <crutchy> mythterj parted again?
[21:59:24] <crutchy> dammit i gotta go to workipoos
[21:59:34] <Subsentient> Poo.
[21:59:54] <chromas> chickenctl disable jumping
[22:01:07] <Subsentient> 'epoch start gerbil-apocalypse'
[22:01:59] <chromas> oh no!
[22:02:09] <chromas> systemctl start bunker
[22:02:52] <crutchy> chromas, s/bunker/pest-control :p/
[22:02:52] <SexBot> <cratchy> <chromas> systemctl start pest-control :p
[22:03:12] <crutchy> cratchy?
[22:03:23] <crutchy> cratchy++
[22:03:23] <Bender> karma - cratchy: 1
[22:03:28] * chromas install peanut butter traps around the nuker
[22:03:34] * chromas can't spell bunker
[22:03:44] <crutchy> nuker++
[22:03:44] <Bender> karma - nuker: 1
[22:03:54] <crutchy> its nucular
[22:05:16] <crutchy> later mater
[22:06:59] <chromas> "hehehe, you said 'nuclear'! It's 'nucular', dummy; the 's' is silent"
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[23:00:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Weird Ways Of Superfluid Helium - http://sylnt.us - it-just-shouldn't-do-that,-should-it?
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[23:09:01] <mrcoolbp> .op
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[23:09:31] <mrcoolbp> .topic Board Meeting in progress in #staff
[23:09:31] juggler changed topic of #Soylent to: Board Meeting in progress in #staff
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[23:26:03] <prospectacle> mrcoolbp, I just logged in to say my mug arrived and it's great
[23:26:13] <mrcoolbp> cool!
[23:26:22] <mrcoolbp> we are going to open up the store tomorrow to all users
[23:26:24] <matt_> prospectacle, nice! which one did you get?
[23:26:37] <prospectacle> the coffee++ one with the black inside
[23:26:47] <matt_> cool.
[23:27:03] <prospectacle> it works as advertised too ,as it does indeed increment my coffee variable
[23:27:57] <prospectacle> I expect you didn't get much of the money though, next time I'd better buy a platinum keychain badge or something
[23:28:13] <prospectacle> Or else what's the eta on subscriptions?
[23:29:51] <juggs> Keep your eye open for announcements on that prospectacle ;)
[23:31:14] <prospectacle> ooh exciting!
[23:32:29] <juggs> It's looking imminent - but I'm not saying any more than that as it's not me doing the announcing :D
[23:33:30] <mrcoolbp> .topic https://SoylentNews.org | IRC Logs: logs.sylnt.us/ | Wiki: sylnt.us/wiki | Code: sylnt.us/code | Got bugs? sylnt.us/bugs | Get Involved: sylnt.us/getinvolved | Who's Who: sylnt.us/whoswho | Submit Stories: sylnt.us/submit | Latest code and testing on Dev Server: sylnt.us/dev
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[23:34:16] <Lagg> juggs, mrcoolbp: Link me to something for coffee and platinum knick knacks have been mentioned
[23:34:49] <mrcoolbp> Lagg: www.zazzle.com/soylentnews*
[23:34:55] <juggs> Lagg, http://www.zazzle.com* - yes the asterisk is deliberate
[23:35:23] <chromas> What's it do?
[23:35:39] <chromas> Besides redirect to a link without the asterisk
[23:36:02] <monopoly> ^ 03Soylentnews | Zazzle.com Store
[23:36:05] <mrcoolbp> lol
[23:36:19] <chromas> think my net needs a reboot
[23:36:31] <chromas> it actually loaded instantly in the browser
[23:36:41] <JamesNZ> crutchy will love the mug :D
[23:36:55] * mrcoolbp made it just for crutchy
[23:37:01] <prospectacle> lol
[23:37:06] <JamesNZ> <3
[23:37:08] <chromas> I still think there should be a finger or something poking out of the wrapper
[23:40:01] <Lagg> I can't afford any of this overpriced nonsense. So I will bookmark it for later when I can afford it.
[23:42:50] <Lagg> I hope to see a larger cup when that time comes though. That's one major problem I have, I don't use a standard sized cup. It's one of those tall ones.
[23:43:07] <prospectacle> Lagg, if you click on one of the cups they have a variety of sizes
[23:43:11] <Lagg> It's an ugly burgendy cup too so I'm always open toswitching.
[23:43:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> Lagg, i said the exact same thing. my current mug is 20oz
[23:43:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> but if you're a 15oz guy, they have those as a size option
[23:44:23] <prospectacle> no I stand corrected, even the travel mug appears to be 15oz
[23:45:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> beer stein for christmas season
[23:45:23] <juggs> Shall we just put some buckets in there with the SN logo on? :D
[23:45:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, if they're insulated, hell yes.
[23:45:48] <Lagg> Yeah that's more in line with my desired cup size.
[23:46:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> just cut the top off a 2liter bottle, glue a handle on, and spray foam the outside
[23:46:20] <Lagg> If I have to refill more than twice it's too small
[23:46:39] <Lagg> No, if I manage to finish it within a day it's too small
[23:47:55] <mrcoolbp> .topicappend | SoylentNews PBC Board of Directors Meeting will be held on Wednesday, September 3 at 23:00 UTC (7:00pm EDT) in #staff, all are welcome to attend
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[23:48:05] <mrcoolbp> = /
[23:48:16] <juggs> too long :P
[23:48:19] <mrcoolbp> yah
[23:48:58] <juggs> #staff one was truncated as well :(
[23:49:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> best board meeting EVAR btw, gents.
[23:49:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> NC should always be falling asleep.
[23:49:29] <mrcoolbp> ug
[23:51:51] <prospectacle> all those links to the wiki/irc/logs/etc, maybe they should all be on one "master links" page and that's what the topic links to
[23:52:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> prospectacle++
[23:52:04] <Bender> karma - prospectacle: 20
[23:52:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can find my way around slash code but the wiki is beyond me
[23:52:45] <chromas> [[Getting Started]] is probably a place for all those links about getting started
[23:53:06] <Blackmoore> http://www.washingtonpost.com
[23:53:07] <juggs> .topic https://SoylentNews.org | IRC Logs: logs.sylnt.us/ | Wiki: sylnt.us/wiki | Code: sylnt.us/code | Got bugs? sylnt.us/bugs | Get Involved: sylnt.us/getinvolved | Who's Who: sylnt.us/whoswho | Submit Stories: sylnt.us/submit | Latest code and testing on Dev Server: sylnt.us/dev | SN PBC Board Meeting - Weds, Sept. 3 at 23:00 UTC (7:00pm EDT) in #staff, all are welcome
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[23:53:10] <prospectacle> e.g. SoylentNews: News, IRC, Get Involved, Who's Who: http://sylnt.us
[23:53:10] <monopoly> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | http://sylnt.us ( http://sylnt.us )
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[23:55:25] <SpallsHurgenson> I feel... burnt
[23:56:12] * prospectacle runs some cold water over SpallsHurgenson
[23:56:22] <SpallsHurgenson> now I feel burnt and wet
[23:56:37] <prospectacle> you're welcome
[23:56:54] <SpallsHurgenson> oddly enough, my burning had a lot to do with water in the first place
[23:58:14] <SpallsHurgenson> some people spent the day stuck in an office performing useful activity for money. Me, I was enjoying sun, surf and sand :)
[23:58:54] <FunPika> .topic https://SoylentNews.org | Useful links: http://sylnt.us | SN PBC Board Meeting - Weds, Sept. 3 at 23:00 UTC (7:00pm EDT) in #staff, all are welcome
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[23:59:02] <SpallsHurgenson> a bit too much of the former, as it turns out :)
[23:59:47] <prospectacle> Sounds nice spalls. Other than the burning. Did you build a castle