#Soylent | Logs for 2014-08-24

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[00:23:44] <chromas> dissolve to 3
[00:23:54] <arti> opacity 1
[00:30:00] <mythterj> Enhance 15 to 23
[00:30:22] <arti> chkchkchkchk
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[00:32:45] <d33tah> https://soylentnews.org
[00:32:47] <monopoly> ^ 04SN article 03 12 Alternatives to use Since NSA Compromised the Tor Project 04(16 comments):
[00:33:01] <d33tah> guys, come on, take this article down... all it's doing is FUD.
[00:33:55] <chromas> didn't we have that article a month or so ago?
[00:34:11] <chromas> maybe the list has been resorted this time
[00:36:39] <d33tah> anyway this "omg, tor is broken, use tails" is not only spreading fear, but also dead stupid
[00:37:08] <chromas> it's how we push people to something we know for sure is broken :D
[00:37:17] <chromas> easier spying
[00:38:23] <d33tah> come on, this article shouldn't be there.
[00:38:56] * chromas isn't an editor
[00:40:08] <d33tah> Landon? xlefay? NCommander? mrcoolbp? who are the editors?
[00:40:40] <chromas> They're usually in #editorial
[00:40:52] <arti> deetah, like vandread?
[00:40:57] <chromas> though I don't see that one
[00:41:07] <d33tah> arti: just a random nickname.
[00:41:12] <mythterj> If you are happy with the concept of someone getting on IRC and causing a page to be pulled down, I'm afraid we've little in common. Just post your objections in the thread. It will be far more productive.
[00:41:21] <arti> oh carry on then, also hi|bye|
[00:41:21] <d33tah> already did
[00:41:32] <d33tah> arti: yeah, hi|bye
[00:41:37] <arti> back later, going to obliterate some brain cells
[00:42:39] <crutchy> Landon & xlefay are IRC gawds
[00:42:51] <crutchy> NCommander is the writer of novels
[00:43:10] <crutchy> mrcoolbp is the minister of finance
[00:44:14] <crutchy> exec is the flooder of channelia
[00:44:45] <NightHawk> hmmm, Subsentient must be AFK, systemd was mentioned and he didn't chip in ;)
[00:44:45] * systemd is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[00:44:45] <crutchy> ciri is the spooger of spooge
[00:45:50] <Subsentient> What you say!!!
[00:45:58] <crutchy> ~g'day Subsentient
[00:45:58] <exec> * crutchy hurls a cold can of g'day juice at Subsentient
[00:46:09] <NightHawk> haha
[00:46:21] <crutchy> ~g'day Subsentient
[00:46:21] <exec> * crutchy slides a toilet bowl of toilet water to Subsentient
[00:46:41] <crutchy> top shelf toilet water
[00:47:16] <crutchy> straight from the asses of angels
[00:47:34] <NightHawk> thanks for that mental image crutchy
[00:47:43] <Subsentient> $beer crutchy
[00:47:50] * aqu4 gives crutchy a mug of warm cat piss
[00:47:58] <crutchy> lol
[00:47:59] <ciri> HEY! don't laugh at me
[00:48:14] <crutchy> ~g'day Subsentient
[00:48:15] <exec> * crutchy postulates a bathtub of toilet water towards Subsentient
[00:48:34] <crutchy> need to add moar randomness
[00:48:57] * aqu4 serves crutchy a turd and vomit footlong sandwich
[00:50:56] <chromas> aqu4: s/sandwich/dong/
[00:50:56] <systemd> <chromas> <aqu4> serves crutchy a turd and vomit footlong dong
[00:51:40] <Subsentient> systemd: s/dong/dong to chromas' mom/
[00:51:54] <Subsentient> systemd s/dong/dong to chromas' mom/
[00:51:54] * systemd is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[00:51:58] <Subsentient> s/dong/dong to chromas' mom/
[00:51:58] <systemd> <Subsentient> systemd s/dong to chromas' mom/dong to chromas' mom/
[00:51:58] * systemd is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[00:52:11] <Subsentient> s/footlong dong/dong to chromas' mom/
[00:52:23] * Subsentient pukes on chromas and systemd
[00:52:23] * systemd is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[00:52:24] <chromas> rhymes++
[00:52:24] <Bender> karma - rhymes: 1
[00:52:59] systemd is now known as upstart
[01:10:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mythbusters losing Grant, Kari, and Tory - http://sylnt.us - budget-cut-myth-confirmed
[01:11:19] <crutchy> systemd
[01:11:19] * upstart is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[01:11:22] <crutchy> :p
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[01:12:14] <crutchy> need a script that fires on /nick that detects sedbot and changes the awk script
[01:12:20] <crutchy> moar scripts!
[01:12:29] <crutchy> for moar pills!
[01:13:12] <Konomi> someone fix up the tor article before I have an aneurysm
[01:13:30] <crutchy> haven't read it. prolly won't
[01:13:36] * crutchy doesn't use tor anyway
[01:13:44] <Konomi> well it recommends you replace tor with alternatives
[01:13:47] <Konomi> then list tails
[01:14:01] <crutchy> everyone wants a tail
[01:14:08] <crutchy> just like everyone wants a slinky
[01:14:19] <juggs> I thought tails was a containerisation thingumy
[01:14:20] <Konomi> tails is just an os bootable version that pipes everything through tor....
[01:14:28] <Konomi> it is
[01:15:02] <juggs> d'oh
[01:16:52] <crutchy> how about change tfa to 'anyone who thinks they are anonymous on the interblags is a fool'
[01:16:52] <ciri> not sure
[01:17:36] <Konomi> the article doesn't even mention any breaches
[01:17:43] <chromas> need SedBot to work on farticles
[01:17:54] <crutchy> or interblags
[01:18:18] <crutchy> ~g'day interblags
[01:18:19] <exec> * crutchy throws a bathtub of testicle juice at interblags
[01:20:32] <crutchy> ~g'day Konomi
[01:20:32] <exec> * crutchy flings a toilet bowl of milo at Konomi
[01:22:02] <NightHawk> Weird, just found an old soundcard with a sodding heat sink on it....
[01:22:28] <crutchy> sodding? did you find it in the dishwasher?
[01:23:25] <NightHawk> no, I'm just britsh ;)
[01:23:46] <crutchy> that's ok ol' chum :p
[01:23:55] <chromas> then shouldn't it be bloody?
[01:24:21] <crutchy> you know, fish, chips, cup'o'tea, mary fucking poppins
[01:24:34] <NightHawk> lol, i love that quote
[01:24:42] <crutchy> i hail from orstraylia
[01:25:04] <crutchy> though you got a .com.au as well
[01:25:07] <crutchy> expat?
[01:25:38] <NightHawk> I ran away from england to find better weather, sadly landed up in Melbourne so it's about the same
[01:25:44] <crutchy> lol
[01:25:44] <ciri> lol damn!
[01:25:52] <crutchy> ~weather
[01:25:56] <exec> weather for 10Morwell (latrobe Valley Airport), VIC, Australia at 9:01 am (EST) ~ 144 mins ago: temp: 109.6°C (49.3°F), dp: 109.6°C (49.3°F), press: 101026.5 mb (+0.3 mb/60 mins), humid: 10100%, wind: 106.4 km/h (4 mph) @ 10250°
[01:26:06] <crutchy> been raining here
[01:27:41] <crutchy> hmm i vaguely remember someone from northern vic who was into motorbikes that had a nicck like yours, or is my memory as shit as i i'm pretty sure it is?
[01:28:39] <NightHawk> Could be me'
[01:29:06] <crutchy> been a while
[01:29:28] <NightHawk> yeah, haven't signed in for a couple of months
[01:30:06] <crutchy> how you been?
[01:31:11] <NightHawk> I've learnt to sidestep that question over here. I don't want to be offered a cup of concrete... Yourself?
[01:32:44] <crutchy> not too bad. just trolling as usual
[01:32:55] <crutchy> wow they offer cups of concrete here?
[01:32:58] * crutchy feels cheated
[01:34:07] * NightHawk offers crutchy a cup of concrete
[01:34:42] * crutchy accepts and chugs concrete with gusto
[01:42:39] <crutchy> ~part
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[01:43:49] <crutchy> ~part
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[01:43:59] <paulej72> ~weather
[01:44:03] <exec> weather for 10Princeton, NJ US at 9:20 pm (EDT) ~ 24 mins ago: temp: 1017.2°C (63°F), dp: 1016.2°C (61.2°F), press: 101019.3 mb (+0.1 mb/18 mins), humid: 1093%, wind: 100 km/h (0 mph) @ 1067°
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[01:44:42] <crutchy> test 3
[01:44:44] <crutchy> ~part
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[01:45:40] <crutchy> yay seems to be working
[01:45:54] <crutchy> ~users count
[01:45:56] <exec> *** 0 nicks registered
[01:46:11] <crutchy> oh yeah not finished that bit yet
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[02:08:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, having to clean fish when you don't eat fish is just wrong
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[02:10:25] <juggs> cleaning them for the cat(s) TheMightyBuzzard ?
[02:10:36] <chromas> Throw 'em in the dishwasher
[02:11:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, had a nice, eating-size flathead swallow the hook so i couldn't throw him back.
[02:11:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll donate the meat to someone
[02:11:31] <chromas> not allowed to return big 'uns?
[02:11:35] <paulej72> i love fish, at least most fish
[02:11:54] <paulej72> and not in the ef way
[02:12:05] <crutchy> but thats the best fish
[02:12:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, no swallowed the hook = going to die soon.
[02:12:08] <chromas> paulej72: s/and not/especially/
[02:12:08] <upstart> <chromas> <paulej72> especially in the ef way
[02:12:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> crap, i forgot to get my hook back
[02:12:39] <crutchy> <upstart> /nick upchuck
[02:12:58] <paulej72> much better
[02:13:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> flathead are supposed to be the best eating catfish. i really have no idea.
[02:13:27] <crutchy> in oz we can get flathead tails from the fish n chip shops
[02:13:28] <paulej72> love blackened catfish
[02:13:40] <crutchy> battered
[02:13:45] <paulej72> sounds yummy
[02:13:57] upstart is now known as upchuck
[02:19:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> tried giving the cats some sushi from the bits too small to bother with and they looked at me like i offered them a fresh, steamy dog turd
[02:20:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> they are entirely too domesticated
[02:22:19] <juggs> typical cats :)
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[02:33:10] <chromas> juggs: s/cats/pussy/
[02:33:10] <upchuck> <chromas> <juggs> typical pussy :)
[02:33:32] * juggs slaps chromas
[02:33:41] * chromas is slightly aroused
[02:33:58] * juggs is slightly disturbed
[02:34:14] <paulej72> you both are
[02:34:16] <crutchy> juggs, s/urbed/ributed/
[02:34:16] <upchuck> <crutchy> <juggs> is slightly distributed
[02:34:30] <chromas> "Did anybody else get a boner when Akiko slapped me just now? Oh, me neither"
[02:34:50] <paulej72> lol
[02:34:50] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[02:35:14] <crutchy> i want what chromas is watching
[02:35:40] <chromas> not on at the moment but it's American Dad
[02:36:16] <paulej72> was that the halloween episode
[02:36:39] <chromas> Either that or the one with the hotdogs
[02:37:42] <chromas> Also in quotes db, "Do whatever you want, just don't get it in my hair"
[02:41:11] <chromas> "no AUR metadata for wine-git package"
[02:41:35] <chromas> <high-pitched spongebob voice>oh no!
[02:42:07] <crutchy> wine-git?
[02:42:14] <chromas> wine from git
[02:42:28] <crutchy> apt-get install whiskey-git
[02:42:58] <chromas> apt_get--
[02:42:58] <Bender> karma - apt_get: -1
[02:43:20] <chromas> doesn't return search results
[02:44:38] <crutchy> synaptic++
[02:44:38] <Bender> karma - synaptic: 1
[02:44:52] <chromas> zyooer++
[02:44:52] <Bender> karma - zyooer: 1
[02:44:58] <chromas> sheet
[02:45:02] <chromas> zypper++
[02:45:02] <Bender> karma - zypper: 1
[02:45:24] <crutchy> tama, chromas' zypper returns search results
[02:46:16] <chromas> it may also use globals
[02:46:45] * crutchy needs a bot function that returns a serialized array containing the keys of all buckets
[02:47:33] * chromas cries in anguish, "is there no wine for archlinux at the moment?"
[02:47:36] <crutchy> will need to make it another command
[02:47:38] <chromas> but still
[02:47:40] <chromas> archlinux++
[02:47:40] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 32
[02:47:53] <crutchy> can't use wine in arch???
[02:48:03] <chromas> there's no working package I guess
[02:48:04] <crutchy> s'ok you're not missing much
[02:48:11] * crutchy doesn't use wine either
[02:48:23] <chromas> I need it in case I want to play Starcraft or something
[02:48:39] <crutchy> prolly cos debian in running in a vbox on a windows 7 lappy :p
[02:48:39] <chromas> or use Reaper
[02:48:50] <crutchy> ooh sc works good in wine
[02:49:22] <chromas> the snapshots are great. The stable builds always seem to have problems for me
[02:49:38] <chromas> sc2 and d3 also work fine; torchlight, etc
[02:50:09] <chromas> I think the only thing that doesn't work is the most recent c4d installers
[02:50:17] <chromas> s/rs/r/
[02:50:17] <upchuck> <chromas> I think the only thing that doesn't work is the most recent c4d installer
[02:51:07] <chromas> s/upchuck/charles ruttheimer, iii/
[03:02:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Jailed for 33 months for Recording Movie From Back of Cinema - http://sylnt.us - it-doesn't-look-good
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[03:03:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Should I go to the bar again guys?
[03:03:51] <juggs> does it have blackjack and hookers?
[03:03:56] <NightHawk> Depands, how flamable are you?
[03:04:24] <Ethanol-fueled> It has a lot of ugly people, but it's unpretentious and the drinks are dirt-cheap.
[03:04:42] <Ethanol-fueled> kissed the bartender last night, but she likes me and calls me by name everytime I walk in.
[03:04:58] <NightHawk> pics or it didn't happen!
[03:05:00] <juggs> Enough dirt-cheap drinks and the clientele stop looking so ugly I guess
[03:05:05] <Ethanol-fueled> no hookers or blackjack, just darts and pool. And a couple of those electronic video game thingies
[03:05:35] <Ethanol-fueled> LOT of black people. Which is why I like it, because Black people are more talkative and friendly than white people. They know how to have a better time.
[03:05:36] <crutchy> ~gday Ethanol-fueled
[03:05:37] <exec> * crutchy passes a bucket of coffee to Ethanol-fueled
[03:05:46] <juggs> I thought you were trying to dry out to avoid flunking school :/
[03:05:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Thanks for banning me Juggs. You all shouldn't have to put up with my shit.
[03:06:07] <Ethanol-fueled> I could just stop drinking and not be an asshole, but fat chance.
[03:06:15] <Ethanol-fueled> s/banning/kicking
[03:06:16] * upchuck tosses a / to Ethunal-fulid
[03:06:39] <juggs> No worries, I only gave you a 60 minute time out. You had gone all ranty.
[03:06:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahah
[03:06:55] <Ethanol-fueled> No, actually, school is easy.
[03:07:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Now, I may actually have to stop later on when shit gets real, but I'm doing jack-off classes and we're doing definite integrals in calculus, those are easy.
[03:07:50] <Ethanol-fueled> What's new? How you all doing?
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[03:08:18] * crutchy is just php'ing whilst eating donuts
[03:08:40] <Ethanol-fueled> would you consider web stuff to be your specialty, crutchy?
[03:08:49] <crutchy> not the puckered kind
[03:09:01] <crutchy> not really
[03:09:09] <crutchy> php is a tool (or a toy)
[03:09:22] <crutchy> i hate graphical arty farty stuff
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[03:10:46] <crutchy> g'day pbnjoe
[03:10:46] <ciri> hi there crutchy
[03:10:51] <pbnjoe> ^
[03:10:54] <pbnjoe> :P
[03:10:57] <NightHawk> aestetics are objective...
[03:11:11] <pbnjoe> how's it going?
[03:12:01] <crutchy> ok
[03:12:11] <crutchy> for a sunday arvo
[03:12:36] <crutchy> u?
[03:13:15] <pbnjoe> pretty good for a saturday night
[03:13:26] <pbnjoe> listening to some Gramatik
[03:14:06] <crutchy> is that a band made up of grammar nazi grannies?
[03:15:07] <pbnjoe> close, except for a few details
[03:15:31] <pbnjoe> like it's one person, it's a guy, and he's not a grammar nazi
[03:15:39] <pbnjoe> so, uh, I guess it's not that close
[03:16:00] <crutchy> kinda like zomboy?
[03:16:49] * Ethanol-fueled checks out gramatik
[03:16:50] * crutchy doesn't like the yellow donuts
[03:17:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Not bad, I could bump this shit.
[03:17:17] <pbnjoe> he's a slovenian that does hip hop, glitch, and dubstep
[03:17:22] <pbnjoe> so kinda like zomboy but with more genres
[03:18:32] <crutchy> pretty cool
[03:18:38] <crutchy> swingy
[03:18:48] <pbnjoe> which song you listening to?
[03:18:58] <crutchy> afternoon soul
[03:19:01] <Ethanol-fueled> I like electronic music that follows the "typical song" format
[03:19:17] <Ethanol-fueled> The Age of Reason is the first album that pops up on Youtube
[03:19:32] <crutchy> i always use the 'most views' filter
[03:20:41] <crutchy> i like chillstep and cafe del mar chillout sort of stuff too
[03:20:55] <pbnjoe> the Best of Gramatik HD one has some pretty good stuff in a row
[03:21:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Any of you guys have music skills? We could start a project.
[03:21:33] <Ethanol-fueled> One of us could compose and record a "skeleton" then pass it onto another who could add their own thing, then so on.
[03:22:03] * chromas remembers when Grammatik was the grammar checker in WordPerfect
[03:22:26] <crutchy> sry eth i wish i could. would be an awesome prroject
[03:22:57] <pbnjoe> he does a pretty wide range of stuff imo, but nearly all of it is just
[03:22:59] <pbnjoe> chill
[03:23:10] <crutchy> ooh
[03:23:12] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[03:23:13] <monopoly> ^ 03(HD Video) Best of Café del Mar Remixed - Nova Nova - Tones (Memories Mix) - YouTube
[03:23:31] <crutchy> there's actually a cafe del mar channel
[03:23:50] <crutchy> would be awesome on a 60" screen
[03:28:42] <pbnjoe> nice
[03:29:10] <Ethanol-fueled> nobody here has any music skills, huh?
[03:30:11] * crutchy has music listening skillz :p
[03:30:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Khyber did but he split, or lurks under another name.
[03:30:41] <crutchy> you should see me go. i can stop talking through a whole song!
[03:30:47] <Ethanol-fueled> haha crutchy
[03:31:23] <crutchy> khyber => _NSAKEY ??
[03:31:24] <Ethanol-fueled> That sucks. Nobody in real-life I know can play or record music. It saddening enough to drive a man to drink.
[03:32:15] <pbnjoe> why do you think that?
[03:32:34] <chromas> it's fun to pick on _NSAKEY
[03:32:47] <crutchy> maybe get a second hand guitar off ebay and start plinking away
[03:33:48] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, even an easy instrument like the guitar requires some time to be useful. If you want to make music easily you should learn something like fruityloops
[03:33:54] <crutchy> i saw a guitar similar to fracionado's a couple of weeks ago. i drooled for a good half hour
[03:34:26] <crutchy> i used to be able to play piano a bit, but i don't have one any more :(
[03:34:35] <crutchy> used to love playing by ear
[03:36:28] <Ethanol-fueled> pbnjoe, about khyber, I'm pretty sure he lurks. As much of an attitude he seemed to have, he liked the place too much to bail outright.
[03:36:50] * pbnjoe nods
[03:37:05] <pbnjoe> I just meant why suddenly accuse _NSAKEY
[03:37:07] <Ethanol-fueled> I've seen a few posts with sentence structure and very similar style. Don't recall the users, but wouldnt be the least bit surprised.
[03:37:57] <crutchy> i just took a wild guess
[03:38:00] <chromas> pbnjoe: he's at the top of the list and his name requires us to be suspicious
[03:38:10] <pbnjoe> we just need to make a comment about 40TB of bandwidth and I'm sure he'd say something
[03:38:23] <crutchy> and cos _NSAKEY has NSA in it and because its near the top of the list :p
[03:38:28] <pbnjoe> ;)
[03:38:49] <Ethanol-fueled> I looked at some of NSAKEY's posts, I don't think he's khyber.
[03:38:51] <juggs> chroma - hiding in plain sight and all that tinfoil stuff :D
[03:38:53] <crutchy> anyone with _ in their nick has gotta be dodgy
[03:39:22] <crutchy> or anyone named crutchy. man he sounds like a real weirdo
[03:39:24] <chromas> winnt++
[03:39:24] <Bender> karma - winnt: 1
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[03:40:13] <Ethanol-fueled> I have a UNIX question for you all.
[03:40:17] crutchy is now known as _
[03:40:32] <_> i underscore everything
[03:40:37] <Ethanol-fueled> What is the origin of the quote style `quote'
[03:41:16] <_> its prolly from a time long gone, before language was limited to 104 keys
[03:41:30] * _ crutchy
[03:41:33] <_> oops
[03:41:37] _ is now known as crutchy
[03:42:45] <juggs> good question. I'd assumed it was to differentiate opening and closing quotes. Would make nested quoted sections easier to interpret. But that is an assumption.
[03:45:25] <chromas> I must've borked my install
[03:45:38] <chromas> can't find 32-bit stuff
[03:47:57] <juggs> mebber you need ia32-libs or multiarch-support meta packages (?)
[03:48:18] <chromas> got 'em enabled
[03:48:54] <chromas> Must be time to reinstall again
[03:49:28] <juggs> juggs@mint17-laptop ~/gt/various $ apt-cache policy multiarch-support
[03:49:30] <juggs> Display all 45452 possibilities? (y or n)
[03:49:30] <juggs> juggs@mint17-laptop ~/gt/various $ apt-cache policy ia32-libs
[03:49:30] <juggs> Display all 45452 possibilities? (y or n)
[03:49:42] <juggs> I'd hedge that they pull in the same things :)
[03:50:00] <chromas> I also have a Unix question
[03:50:21] <chromas> Why doesn't apt-get let you do searches when it has to search to find what you're asking for anyway?
[03:52:12] <juggs> Care to expand on that?
[03:52:43] <chromas> if you want to search for a package, you have to use apt-cache, right?
[03:53:19] <chromas> (or a front-end like aptitude)
[03:53:47] <chromas> but apt-get has to do a search anyway to find whatever packages you tell it you want
[03:55:16] <juggs> hmm - probably various by distro. But I use tab complete for suggestions using both apt-cache policy and apt-get install when I can only remember the first bit of a package name
[03:55:21] <juggs> varies*
[03:56:50] <juggs> OIC apt-cache search is an actual ~thing~
[03:57:27] <chromas> zypper++ :D
[03:57:27] <Bender> karma - zypper: 2
[03:57:51] <juggs> lol whatever works
[04:00:49] <juggs> as long as they handle dependency conflicts robustly I'm happy. Things have come a long way where we can now say "it's ~only~ package management, use whatever" :D
[04:01:19] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, do you at elast know the first bit of the package name? You can use the wildcard to install what you need AND MORE!
[04:01:25] <Ethanol-fueled> "apt-get install pack*
[04:02:02] <Ethanol-fueled> storage space is go goddamn cheap it don't even matter no' mo'
[04:02:13] <chromas> I'm not actually trying to find something at the moment (or using a Debian distro) I just wondered why they have a separate utility for searches and stuff
[04:02:34] <chromas> also until I came here, I didn't know there was decent completion for the command line
[04:02:48] <chromas> fish++
[04:02:48] <Bender> karma - fish: 3
[04:03:09] * chromas just found out he improperly enabled multilib
[04:03:18] * chromas feels like a tard
[04:03:40] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, chances are that I'm more retarded than you are. Rest easy.
[04:03:51] <juggs> chromas, what distro are you driving?
[04:04:02] <chromas> archlinux++
[04:04:02] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 33
[04:04:40] <juggs> in at the deep end :D
[04:04:49] <chromas> ah, much better. Remove the # and everything is smooth
[04:05:55] <chromas> epeen++
[04:05:55] <Bender> karma - epeen: 1
[04:06:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Isn't Slackware the distro of choice for elite hackers?
[04:06:25] <chromas> epeen-- :(
[04:06:25] <Bender> karma - epeen: 0
[04:06:44] <chromas> dunno; I just wanted a rolling release distro
[04:09:15] <Ethanol-fueled> I still run ubuntu 10.04
[04:09:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Ncommander told me I need an update. I told him "hell naw"
[04:09:44] <juggs> chromas, as far as I understand it (which is feeble) apt-get is the tool to manipulate packages (install / remove / purge et al.) while apt-cache is more of a catalogue system for both installed and available packages. I don't claim to be knowledgeable - you'd be better served firing the question at someone like paulej72, NCommander, audioguy or mechanicjay most likely.
[04:10:25] * chromas wonders if nc will switch distros now
[04:10:38] <Ethanol-fueled> haha chromas.
[04:10:40] <Popeidol> didn't he mention he was going to freebsd for a while?
[04:11:20] <chromas> I had my sister on ubuntu years ago. She thought it was awesome
[04:11:29] <chromas> Linux++
[04:11:29] <Bender> karma - linux: 4
[04:11:32] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, mint with mate is very ubuntu 10.04 / Gnome2 alike. Particularly if you nix the mint-menu and use the mate-menu.
[04:11:39] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, I put my dad on Ubuntu after he kept shitting up his box due to porn.
[04:11:57] <chromas> Porn++
[04:11:57] <Bender> karma - porn: 2
[04:11:59] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, does mint use apt?
[04:12:06] <Ethanol-fueled> cuz I heard RPM sucks.
[04:12:07] <chromas> Yes
[04:12:27] <Ethanol-fueled> should bail to mint to make a statement.
[04:12:40] <chromas> There's also mint Debian edition
[04:12:41] <Ethanol-fueled> or get an old O2 and run IRIX.
[04:13:26] <chromas> Rpm has delta packages though
[04:13:46] <Ethanol-fueled> whass that mean, chromas?
[04:14:40] <chromas> They store the difference between the current and previous version of the package
[04:14:56] <chromas> So updates are smaller, assuming you update occasionally
[04:15:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[04:15:58] <chromas> Debian distros have a utility you can install to get updates p2p which is pretty cool
[04:16:57] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, yep - Mint is based on Ubuntu is based on Debian so it's aptified all the way down. Mint17 is based on Ubuntu 14.04 so is an LTS. May want to rip out avahi and dnsmasq but otherwise the Mate desktop is a Gnome2 look and feel.
[04:18:33] <juggs> NB ripping out dnsmasq can do bad things to NetworkManager leading to some manual resolv.conf and route updating for other than simple network arrangements.
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[04:25:33] <juggs> That said, when I was choosing which Mint17 desktop to go with the xfce, mate and cinammon desktops were all pretty much of a muchness - I could live with any of them. But then I don't expect the DE to do much beyond give me a way to launch shit then get out of the way,
[04:29:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Thing is, I want to be able to continue to use compiz-fusion.
[04:30:14] <Ethanol-fueled> You all may scoff at it's decadence, but it's the primary tool I use to convert people to linux.
[04:30:56] <Ethanol-fueled> average idiot windows user sees the terminal and pukes, saying that linux is primitive. You show them all kinds of fancy blinkenlights, and Linux becomes the wave of the future.
[04:31:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Suppose I could triple-boot and use Mint for day-to-day use.
[04:31:58] <juggs> Did compiz ever move on from Gnome2? Last I read (some time back) compiz had pretty much been marooned. Wobbly Windows and Desktop Cube soon lose their appeal.
[04:33:49] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs - it didn't, but that's the point -- average idiot windows user only sees value in things like that. He can install an older version of Ubuntu or another deb distro, then brag about how his 300-dollar laptop can run circles around a Mac and never get viruses.
[04:34:16] <Ethanol-fueled> I set it up for him, he never gets viruses and has mad nerd cred, and Linux adoption increases.
[04:34:24] <Ethanol-fueled> It shouldn't have to be that way, but people are idiots.
[04:35:30] <Ethanol-fueled> And frankly, I'm sad that Compiz-fusion is stagnant and smelling-funny....it has the potential to be a game-changer. Its as if Bill Gates and Steve Jobs bought of the Compiz-fusion developers, telling them "It's too good! Too fast!"
[04:36:41] <juggs> I don't know of any distro still shipping with Gnome 2 . It would be insanity to suggest someone runs an out of support version of anything - wobbly windows or not.
[04:36:58] <Ethanol-fueled> now, a lot of it is hollow bling-bling...but it could be a powerful tool if its concentration was usability.
[04:37:38] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs...I'm talking about Windows users here. from a security standpoint, old Linux is better than fairly-recent Windows.
[04:38:17] <juggs> Stick em on Gnome Shell or Unity then - wooo hot corners and discoverable things depending which part of the screen you mouse too... even with the amazon lenses and such they'll still be better off
[04:38:21] <Ethanol-fueled> the thing is, they need to be SOLD on Linux. Plain-Vanilla UNity or Xfce is unremarkable.
[04:38:27] <NightHawk> All I remember of compiz (window animations aside) was the ability to write in fire on the screen. Kinda cool if you wanted to go out and leave "BRB, buying smokes" on display.
[04:39:33] <juggs> compiz and gconf bloated beyond all belief - to the extent that setting one option in compiz with another could leave you with a borked DE entirely. Fun but dangerous.
[04:40:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Average idiots see a default Linux desktop and say, "well, great. Now not only are my favorite applications unavailable, but my screen is just as boring as before. "
[04:40:34] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, compiz-fusion is not all that dangerous.
[04:41:07] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, everything is bloated nowadays.
[04:41:37] <Ethanol-fueled> oldheads like you probably grew up with scarce computing resources, especially at the PC level.
[04:41:58] <Ethanol-fueled> average american idiot can get more information than he's worth for 300-600 bucks at Best Buy.
[04:43:58] <juggs> lol @ oldheads :) thanks
[04:43:58] <ciri> hehehe
[04:44:00] <Ethanol-fueled> My family was too poor to afford a PC, and the first one we got was a hand-me-down 386 from my fucking GRANDPARENTS. But my friends were better off, and I remember the monophonic blips and beeps from the original Police Quest and other Sierra games.
[04:44:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Seeing the white-on-black prompt of MS-DOS was quite a contrast from Star Trek's awesome voice-activated context-aware computers.
[04:45:33] <NightHawk> your point?
[04:45:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Point 1: People need to be dazzled
[04:46:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Point 2: Ridiculously granular control is for paranoids or OCD's
[04:46:21] <NightHawk> Didn't stop DOS from making serious bank.
[04:46:22] <juggs> I think 90%+ of the people I have helped in the last few years with their PCs have just wanted a simple panel + menu + perhaps a dock for favourite stuff - in my circles the era of the blingy desktop has perished. People mostly seem to have been appified - which I don;t think is good but it is what it is.
[04:47:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Installing Linux on my dad's computer worked because he only wanted to watch porn.
[04:50:49] <Ethanol-fueled> nighthawk -- about your DOS making money comment -- at the PC level, that was pretty much the only thing available as an operating system. And if I recall correctly, win 95 when it came out was so buggy and unusable that MS-DOS remained the default alternative for those who knew their shit.
[04:51:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mythbusters Losing Grant, Kari, and Tory - http://sylnt.us - budget-cut-myth-confirmed || Jailed for 33 Months for Recording Movie from Back of Cinema - http://sylnt.us - it-doesn't-look-good
[04:52:27] <NightHawk> All i meant was that it became popular despite the lack of 'wow-factor'... There was competition, just not enough drive behind the competition
[04:53:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Nighthawk, that's because at the time there was no competition, especially not from "free software"
[04:53:26] <juggs> lol - when setting up my dad's latest laptop his main questions were around how to fully clear history, cache and cookies - the why was not discussed, just the how. I'd rather not know, and he'd rather I didn't know, but deep down we all do know - there's just some places best left untrodden.
[04:53:48] <NightHawk> Pick a year to focus on, and I'm sure I'll find another end-user OS that didn't quite make it :-)
[04:54:20] <juggs> 1964
[04:55:34] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs - same situation here, but since I knew the man well there was no question. Clear all history, cookies etc. upon every browser close. Don't recommend anything in the bar. For an old man with internet access he understood well that there was no need to store porn locally.
[04:56:09] <NightHawk> Try 1981 onwards, if we're gonna be fair about this.
[04:56:59] <juggs> Oh right - I forgot - computers were invented in the 80s.
[04:57:22] <NightHawk> No, but DOS was released.
[04:58:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Nighthawk, there was no competition from free software back in the old days.
[04:58:07] <NightHawk> PC/MS-DOS, we were debating the lack of competition it was up against
[04:58:34] <NightHawk> Maybe not, but you said no competition, sans the 'free'
[04:58:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Nighthawk, There was Apple, right? And what else?
[04:58:48] <NightHawk> IBM
[04:59:09] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, oooh, IRIX
[04:59:14] <NightHawk> Amiga in the mid 80's
[04:59:19] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, I made a serious attempt to port FIrefox 17 to the platform
[04:59:30] * NCommander got pretty far, but ran into architectual issues I couldn't resolve
[05:00:10] <NightHawk> Commodore64 released in '82. I count some competition.
[05:00:23] <Ethanol-fueled> that's right.
[05:01:18] <Ethanol-fueled> forgot all about those.
[05:01:46] <juggs> Sinclair, BBC and Amstrad stuff was bibbling around then too in the uk. No idea what was going in the US.
[05:01:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Low-Cost Water Splitter that Runs on an Ordinary AAA Battery - http://sylnt.us - commercialization-in-several-years
[05:01:57] <Popeidol> os2 was mid to late 80's, from memory
[05:03:18] <juggs> holy hell it's been a fast ride
[05:03:39] <Popeidol> (also a nice comparison since it was developed by microsoft for a while)
[05:05:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Ncommander, care to be specific?
[05:05:13] <Ethanol-fueled> also, welcome, you're a day late and a drink short :)
[05:07:16] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, you need a 64-bit linker to build FIrefox
[05:07:20] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, I ran out of address space
[05:07:30] <NCommander> And several attempts to work around that failed miserably
[05:09:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, and you were doing that natively?
[05:09:35] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, yeah
[05:09:39] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah, damn.
[05:09:46] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, I then tried to fix binutils support for IRIX, and failed that too miserably
[05:10:08] <Ethanol-fueled> You can't be good at everything, dude!
[05:17:31] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, would I be right in assuming that you decided not to go to the bar?
[05:24:05] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs - NOT YET.
[05:24:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Living near a boulevard known for its prostitution with 2 dive bars within walking distance does have its perks.
[05:25:02] <chromas> prostitutes++
[05:25:02] <Bender> karma - prostitutes: 1
[05:25:06] <chromas> Did I say that out loud?
[05:25:14] <Ethanol-fueled> http://en.wikipedia.org
[05:25:15] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03El Cajon Boulevard: El Cajon Boulevard is a major east–west thoroughfare through San Diego, La Mesa and El Cajon, California. Before the creation of Interstate 8 it was the principal automobile route from San Diego to El Cajon, the Imperial Valley, and po...
[05:25:17] <JamesNZ> Yep.
[05:25:33] <juggs> and its downsides - for your liver damage and transmissable disease count
[05:26:10] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, I have a liver made of iron. I ask my doctor to perform liver tests along with my STD tests.
[05:26:29] <Ethanol-fueled> AST, ALT, and GGT levels are nominal.
[05:26:58] <Ethanol-fueled> My doctor thinks I'm a fucking idiot, but his job is to nag me into being a healthier person.
[05:27:45] <Ethanol-fueled> I may yet hike down to the bar.
[05:28:06] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: All doctors thing all patients are fucking idiots.
[05:28:13] <Subsentient> s/thing/think
[05:28:15] * _KEY offers Subsintint a /
[05:28:16] <Subsentient> s/thing/think/
[05:28:18] <_KEY> <Sebsintynt> Ethanol-fueled: All doctors think all patients are fucking idiots.
[05:28:54] <Subsentient> The irony is that they're right. People are stupid.
[05:29:12] <juggs> In purely medical terms we are idiots - we live a life, Being alive is dangerous it only ends one way.
[05:30:25] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, to put it to the layman -- AST, ALT, and GGT are liver enzymes.
[05:31:40] <Ethanol-fueled> A liver problem can be found not only with the levels of each, but the ration of one to the other.
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[05:33:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient -- all people are idiots. But there's this thing called "fun" that people have to have. Most physicians work within their domain, but there's a reason why psychiatrists and psychologists exist -- health encompasses multiple domains.
[05:33:53] <Subsentient> $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $
[05:33:53] <Subsentient> burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito
[05:33:53] <aqu4> ACTION chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burr
[05:34:09] <JamesNZ> $burrito Subsentient
[05:34:09] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Subsentient
[05:34:13] <Subsentient> $restart
[05:34:13] <aqu4> Be right back.
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[05:34:39] <juggs> But then that's medics being professional. The best advice is "blah" much as with any other profession. They espouse that stuff but don't necessarily live by it themselves. Thinking on it, I'd quite like to live forever as long as I could be perfectly healthy and fit forever - but as the latter is an impossibility right now I'll trade some fun for a shortened life.
[05:35:52] * chromas kicks git
[05:36:16] <Subsentient> I'd like to live just long enough to make the world profoundly better, but no more.
[05:36:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, this world is fucked.
[05:37:00] <Subsentient> Until I am no longer wanted and have contributed some great good where I can die in peace
[05:37:12] <juggs> You have plenty of time for that Subsentient - I'd hedge that irc bots are not the way to achieve that end.
[05:37:23] <Subsentient> juggs: Indeed.
[05:37:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, passing down a legacy is a fundamental psychological need...whether it's having a kid, or a distro named after you, or etc...
[05:39:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, I suggest that, if you are having problems related to unresolved issues, travel to an undiseased African country or a nation of Pacific Islanders, and impregnate every woman you can.
[05:39:49] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, is it? Or is that some artifact of upbringing?
[05:39:52] <Subsentient> Not for me. I don't care too much about credit. I just want to have a substantial net positive influence on the world.
[05:40:15] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs: I went to school.
[05:40:42] <Subsentient> People could forget me if they wanted to, just not the ones I love.
[05:43:15] <Subsentient> $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito
[05:43:16] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito $burrito
[05:43:27] * juggs thinks people are too wary off their own mortality too young these days. Nothing would ever get achieved without the ~just do it and see what sticks~ young mentality.
[05:43:35] * chromas gives a thumbsup
[05:43:57] <Subsentient> juggs: I dunno about that.
[05:44:07] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs: but to answer your question, my upbringing was far more traumatic than any person can type in an IRC forum.
[05:44:18] * Subsentient is listening.
[05:44:41] <juggs> Subsentient, seriously - take that wall of text crap to #test
[05:44:56] * Subsentient snickers
[05:45:17] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs - at last, a regular outcraps ethanol-fueled's racist slurration.
[05:45:56] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Quick! Tentacle porn!
[05:47:00] <Ethanol-fueled> I am drunk, but logically so.
[05:47:18] <Subsentient> heh
[05:48:24] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, walls of text get advised to move their bots to #test. EF's rantyness gets a timeout - which I will remind you you asked for on several occasions. I don't like babysitting ~harrumph~
[05:49:10] <Ethanol-fueled> But to elaborate, everybody knows. I posted this on Slashdot. I had to call the cops on my own mom when she tried to kill herself.
[05:49:12] <juggs> I'd rather never use a *line command ever again
[05:49:13] <chromas> need a bot to add babysitting functionality
[05:50:15] * Subsentient chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at juggs
[05:50:25] <Ethanol-fueled> She found out that her son was posting racist comments online, even though "online" did not yet exist.
[05:50:54] <Ethanol-fueled> She couldn't handle the fact that she had cut a racist white kid out of her womb.
[05:53:19] <arti> "he was such a good boy"
[05:54:47] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: That's alright. I'm far more insane than most here know.
[05:55:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient: we all are. Being imperfect is normal, some of you just don't know it yet.
[05:55:44] <Ethanol-fueled> arti - He DINT DO NUFFIN
[05:57:47] * Subsentient can't find music he likes nowadays
[05:58:10] * Subsentient misses Glitch Mob before they went evil with the new album
[05:58:52] * juggs feeds a nasty, rotten burrito to Ethanol-fueled
[05:59:21] * juggs goes back to listening to ancient Pendulum tracks
[05:59:24] <Subsentient> juggs: That burrito was non-transferrable! You violated the burrito TOS.
[05:59:37] <juggs> so sue me
[05:59:47] <chromas> Aren't your burritos public domain?
[05:59:54] <chromas> s/l//
[05:59:54] <_KEY> <chromas> Aren't your burritos pubic domain?
[06:00:09] * Subsentient throws a fat woman named sue at juggs
[06:00:24] <Subsentient> chromas: No.
[06:00:31] <Subsentient> Except the pubic part
[06:00:45] <chromas> so that's the curly fiber within
[06:02:41] * Subsentient needs to add charms to his ncurses breakout game.
[06:04:20] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm going to the bar now\
[06:04:34] <Ethanol-fueled> I will come back FUCKEDE DDDUUPP
[06:04:37] * Subsentient pukes on Ethanol-fueled
[06:04:56] <Ethanol-fueled> SOD OFF YA BLOODY FUCKSTICK
[06:05:02] <juggs> chromas, eggdrop has chan control modules / bitch mode baked in - I find it best to turn it off as it results in botwars and kickwars, I'd like to think we don't need that crap here.
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[06:05:26] <Subsentient> Coming soon -- battle bots.
[06:05:43] <juggs> we could have a channel for that
[06:05:55] <Subsentient> I added aqu4's multiple kick functionality to enable better wars in #botwar on Freenode.
[06:06:21] * chromas will take a Lucky Grand Charm of Greed
[06:07:01] * Subsentient kicks chromas in the nuts for being a greedy bastard
[06:07:13] <chromas> You said you had charms
[06:07:32] <chromas> I'll pay you 65113235817618684 gold
[06:07:34] <Subsentient> chromas: You know, you break a brick in breakout/brick breaker and something falls to give you a new life or 1000 score etc
[06:07:40] <Subsentient> That's a charm.
[06:07:40] <chromas> ah
[06:07:46] <Subsentient> Bricktick doesn't have them.
[06:07:49] <Subsentient> I should add them.
[06:07:53] <chromas> you should
[06:08:07] <chromas> maybe the bad ones too
[06:08:29] <chromas> nasty rotten burritos and stuff
[06:08:41] <chromas> with pubic domain
[06:09:15] <juggs> Subsentient, irc botwars are passe now. It's trivial enough to drop a few $$ and just flood the competition out of existence. There's no challenge so why bother?
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[06:10:08] <Ethanol-fueled> sod off, you bloody fucksticks.
[06:10:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Bahahahahhaha
[06:10:20] <chromas> (-1, redundant)
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[06:10:26] <Subsentient> $beer chromas
[06:10:26] * aqu4 gives chromas a cold can of beer
[06:10:37] <chromas> ooh thanks
[06:10:55] <chromas> ~say $beer keg
[06:10:56] <exec> $beer keg
[06:10:56] * aqu4 gives keg a cold can of beer
[06:11:03] <chromas> oops
[06:11:07] <chromas> I meant !beer
[06:11:13] <chromas> ~say !beer keg
[06:11:14] <exec> !beer keg
[06:11:14] * ciri pours some keg from the tap and slides it to exec
[06:11:33] <chromas> shit, that was supposed to involve giving the beer to aqu4 though
[06:11:37] <Subsentient> ~say derp
[06:11:45] <Subsentient> !beer
[06:11:48] <Subsentient> !beer derp
[06:11:48] * ciri pours some derp from the tap and slides it to Subsentient
[06:12:04] <chromas> !beer beta
[06:12:05] * ciri pours some beta from the tap and slides it to chromas
[06:12:32] <pbnjoe> !beer from the tap and slides it to
[06:12:32] * ciri pours some from the tap and slides it to from the tap and slides it to pbnjoe
[06:12:55] <chromas> !beer nasty, rotten burrito juice
[06:12:56] * ciri pours some nasty, rotten burrito juice from the tap and slides it to chromas
[06:14:53] <pbnjoe> !beer beer from the tap, spills it, soaks it up with a mop, squeezes it back into the keg, then again pours it
[06:14:55] * ciri pours some beer from the tap, spills it, soaks it up with a mop, squeezes it back into the keg, then again pours it from the tap and slides it to pbnjoe
[06:15:39] <pbnjoe> heh
[06:32:54] * juggs fades to invisible
[06:41:08] <NightHawk> hehe, invisible juggs
[06:41:42] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:41:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 667
[06:42:44] <crutchy> ~last xlefay
[06:42:58] <exec> last privmsg for xlefay in #soylent: [2014-08-11 17:39:25] Just can't be as active on IRC as I used to be, got actual stuff to do nowadays :(
[06:43:03] <crutchy> :/
[07:01:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why It’s So Hard to Catch Your Own Tpyos - http://sylnt.us - sum-thymes-ewe-jest-cant-sea-miss-takes
[07:02:04] <ar> coffee--
[07:02:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 666
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[08:07:46] <crutchy> ~translate en De omnibus dubitandum
[08:07:47] <exec> [google translate] De omnibus dubitandum (auto -> en): Of all doubt
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[08:17:22] <NightHawk> miss me?
[08:17:37] <crutchy> hey dude
[08:17:45] <NightHawk> 'sup?
[08:17:51] <crutchy> i'm drinking, so i'll miss a lot
[08:18:00] <NightHawk> ditto
[08:18:49] <crutchy> ~define poop shower
[08:19:03] <exec> poop shower: unable to find definition
[08:19:08] <crutchy> aww
[08:19:48] <NightHawk> brb
[08:19:49] <ciri> me too, smoke time! NightHawk
[08:40:18] <NightHawk> Damn you, just got back now you got me thinking about a smoke!
[09:10:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Federal Appeals Court Demands Longer Sentence for Officer who Delivered Brutal Beating - http://sylnt.us - defying-a-recent-trend
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[10:12:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:12:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 667
[10:13:53] <crutchy> ~time TheMightyBuzzard
[10:13:54] <exec> Sunday, 24 August 2014 @ 5:13 am CDT - Ada, OK, USA
[10:14:00] <crutchy> ooh bit early
[10:14:05] <crutchy> mornin
[10:14:08] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:14:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 668
[10:14:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> gotta get my coffee in before fishing
[10:14:59] <ar> coffe--
[10:14:59] <Bender> karma - coffe: 0
[10:15:04] <ar> coffee--
[10:15:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 667
[10:15:05] <ar> coffee--
[10:15:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 666
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[10:16:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> loving it sitting at 666 eh?
[10:18:05] <ar> it's clearly evil
[10:18:09] <ar> it should stay at 666
[10:19:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> wouldn't 121212 be twice as evil?
[10:19:20] <prospectacle> is that right?
[10:19:23] <crutchy> or 6969
[10:19:25] <prospectacle> my ocd is tingling
[10:19:31] <crutchy> that would be just dirty
[10:19:46] <crutchy> g'day prospectacle
[10:19:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> prospectacle, visually not mathematically
[10:19:55] <crutchy> nice job with the typing thing too
[10:19:56] <prospectacle> The Mighty Buzzard, oh I get it, each digit is doubled
[10:19:59] <crutchy> prospectacle++
[10:19:59] <Bender> karma - prospectacle: 19
[10:20:01] <prospectacle> I Was thinking "That's not double 666"
[10:20:10] <prospectacle> it's 1332, btw, which is not very interesting
[10:20:14] <prospectacle> Hi crutchy
[10:20:17] <crutchy> its even bettererer
[10:20:22] <prospectacle> thanks crutchy.
[10:20:33] <prospectacle> Hope it proves fun and useful
[10:20:38] <prospectacle> or at least one or the other
[10:20:44] <crutchy> ooh what about 1337
[10:21:09] <crutchy> same as the port for the slashvm apache, which also runs on coffee++
[10:21:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> my vm runs on 80 =P
[10:21:56] <crutchy> well its just noot leet then
[10:22:09] <arti> noot. noot. noot.
[10:22:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> true
[10:22:36] <crutchy> woulddn't it be more secure on 1337. less dogs sniffing your butt then. security_by_obscurity++
[10:23:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't want it obscure or secure. rather a vm get hacked than SN.
[10:23:15] <crutchy> ah
[10:23:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> sides, it was a pain typing in five extra characters
[10:23:48] <prospectacle> I think we'd better decide soon, because it's going to take constant, round the clock vigilance to keep coffee at 666, if that's where we land.
[10:24:01] <prospectacle> I for one think we can do it
[10:24:20] <crutchy> coffee++ sorry i just couldn't resist captain. i just don't have the power
[10:24:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 667
[10:24:26] <prospectacle> coffee--
[10:24:26] <Bender> karma - coffee: 666
[10:24:34] <prospectacle> this could get ugly, lol
[10:24:42] <crutchy> could make a script
[10:24:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> prospectacle, depends. i was considering an auto ++ on -- script
[10:24:49] <prospectacle> now you're thinking
[10:25:16] <crutchy> coffee_666.php
[10:25:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee_ftw.pl would win, cause perl > php
[10:26:18] <crutchy> maybe in the upside down land where perl comes from it is
[10:27:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> what, *nix-land?
[10:27:52] <prospectacle> !karma php
[10:27:52] <Bender> php doesn't have karma yet.
[10:27:55] <prospectacle> !karma perl
[10:27:56] <Bender> perl doesn't have karma yet.
[10:27:58] <prospectacle> php++
[10:27:59] <Bender> karma - php: 1
[10:27:59] <crutchy> perlistan
[10:28:22] <crutchy> ~define perl necklace
[10:28:22] <exec> [soylent] perl necklace: something about autoneurotic asphyxiation. induces madness in anyone that wears it. stashed in an underground vault on mars.
[10:29:50] * crutchy remembers making autoexec.bat menus... those were the days
[10:30:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> perl++ if !$crutchy
[10:30:09] <Bender> karma - perl: 1
[10:30:14] <prospectacle> lol, i remember the first time I saw a multi-floppy-disk .bat file, it blew my mind
[10:30:28] <crutchy> lol @ TheMightyBuzzard
[10:30:31] <crutchy> nah
[10:30:33] <crutchy> perl++
[10:30:33] <Bender> karma - perl: 2
[10:30:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> see? you obviously evaluate false.
[10:30:42] * chromas switches phone to colemak layout; typing speed drops to 1%
[10:31:15] <crutchy> chromas, switch to perl syntax... then we'll have nfi what you're talking about :p
[10:31:31] <crutchy> actually maybe we would :D
[10:31:43] <chromas> ((())())
[10:31:50] <crutchy> perl, not lithp
[10:32:06] <chromas> $regex
[10:32:10] <crutchy> ooh
[10:32:34] <chromas> To fill in later
[10:33:10] <prospectacle> hmm, I only just heard about colemak an hour ago, and now there's chromas talking about.
[10:33:15] <prospectacle> That always happens
[10:33:37] <crutchy> never heard of colemak
[10:33:43] <crutchy> is that like swype
[10:34:00] <prospectacle> i think it's like dvorak
[10:34:39] <chromas> I tried to switch a few years ago, muscle molest told me to go fsck myself
[10:34:50] <chromas> Memory
[10:35:43] <prospectacle> Yeah I reckon you'd need to go cold-turkey for a few weeks.
[10:35:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> sub argue{$result = $self->kick($crutchy); argue() if $result->target() ne "nads";}
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[10:36:21] <crutchy> nads?
[10:36:34] <chromas> Gonads
[10:36:36] <crutchy> function protect_nads($at_all_cost)
[10:36:51] <prospectacle> I had enough trouble making the transition from looking at the keys to not. It was decimated my typing speed for some time, but now of course it's much faster than before I made the switch. Not sure if I've got the patience to switch to a different layout though.
[10:37:07] <chromas> Go go gadget sac block
[10:37:18] <crutchy> lol
[10:38:25] * chromas switches back. Ahhh
[10:38:44] <crutchy> function expell_gas($now)
[10:38:55] <chromas> Yeah, stick with qwerty and make the kids learn the new stuff
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[10:41:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:41:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 667
[10:41:11] <crutchy> frozen_box++
[10:41:11] <Bender> karma - frozen_box: 1
[10:41:18] <prospectacle> oh no
[10:41:20] <prospectacle> coffee--
[10:41:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 666
[10:41:22] <chromas> Archlinux++
[10:41:22] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 34
[10:41:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> archlinux++
[10:41:35] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 35
[10:41:41] <chromas> Box++
[10:41:41] <Bender> karma - box: 2
[10:42:15] <prospectacle> Is that like bochs?
[10:42:30] <chromas> It's a snack
[10:43:03] <chromas> Munch that box, mister!
[10:43:10] <crutchy> frozen fruity box
[10:43:25] <chromas> Stay away from the fish flavored
[10:43:45] <crutchy> aww but they're the best kind
[10:45:58] * chromas finished off a weird, non-striped, spherical watermelon
[10:46:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> fishing++
[10:46:45] <Bender> karma - fishing: 4
[10:47:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> bout a quarter hour before i gotta head out yet.
[10:47:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> perks of the days getting shorter, more time to drink coffee.
[10:50:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> awe man. i forgot to put code in for the rot13 easter egg for the 14.08 release.
[10:51:28] <chromas> You must hurry, man! Before there's still time!
[10:52:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> was going to put a wee bit of js in to rot13 anything between <rot13></rot13> tags
[10:53:14] <chromas> Easter_eggs++
[10:53:14] <Bender> karma - easter_eggs: 1
[10:54:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> more i think about it the more i want to add something that takes a certain value in the ICQ address user info field though.
[10:55:54] <chromas> put in the current coffee karma, get 25¢ off a coffee++ mug
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[10:56:29] <chromas> or put in the blood code to get fatalities
[10:56:35] * crutchy could write a script for that
[10:56:43] <crutchy> err the karma thing
[10:58:03] <chromas> abacabb
[10:58:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> or maybe write a theme and only have it accessible by 3 digit or less uids
[10:59:22] <chromas> ooh, I got one of those
[10:59:30] <chromas> Can I get a rule34 theme?
[11:00:01] <chromas> I'd probably have to make it myself
[11:00:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> miniature giant space hamster/ranger pr0n theme, coming up
[11:00:20] <chromas> Dice violating its 'audience'
[11:00:52] <chromas> "take my full three, bitches!"
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[11:02:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, i'm off to annoy the fooshes again. have fun.
[11:02:56] <chromas> have a regex morning
[11:03:10] <crutchy> and a perler of an arvo
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[11:42:19] <crutchy> ~g'day Konomi
[11:42:20] <exec> * crutchy hurls a bathtub of Soylent Green at Konomi
[11:42:35] <crutchy> oopw
[11:42:44] <crutchy> ~g'day KonomiNetbook
[11:42:45] <exec> * crutchy passes a wine flute of beer to KonomiNetbook
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[11:49:42] <prospectacle> that's a clever feature
[11:49:47] <prospectacle> ~g'day exec
[11:49:54] <prospectacle> oh
[11:52:09] <crutchy> moar features! :p
[11:52:16] <crutchy> testing is in #
[11:52:21] <chromas> exec++
[11:52:21] <Bender> karma - exec: 8
[11:52:33] <monopoly> exec++
[11:52:33] <Bender> karma - exec: 9
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[12:05:56] <prospectacle> I'm looking for ideas for my next weekend project. The typing game is 90% done and I think i'll leave it alone for a while. Any suggestions for a new small web-based app or game?
[12:06:14] <prospectacle> ~g'day exec
[12:06:15] <exec> * prospectacle hurls a cold can of coffee at exec
[12:10:02] <chromas> Could use a Cubis clone
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[12:10:44] <d33tah> d33tah++
[12:10:50] <d33tah> Bender--
[12:10:50] <Bender> karma - bender: -7
[12:10:56] <d33tah> beta++
[12:10:57] <Bender> karma - beta: -18
[12:12:09] <monopoly> chromas++ for cheating
[12:12:09] <Bender> karma - chromas: 28
[12:12:43] * prospectacle googles cubis
[12:13:31] <prospectacle> interesting
[12:13:32] <chromas> Oh yeah. Might help if you'd heard of it :)
[12:14:18] <chromas> Basically you slide blocks in from the sides to remove matching coloreds
[12:14:28] <chromas> They can stack too
[12:14:33] <chromas> And break
[12:14:44] <prospectacle> I see
[12:16:12] <prospectacle> might be fun.
[12:16:46] <prospectacle> What about one of those games where you place various objects on a board, and they each cost different $ and have different behaviours, and interact with each other. Your goal is to achieve some emergent property, from their interactions, e.g. get as many balls into the hole as you can, or stop the bad guys getting into the castle, etc.
[12:16:52] <chromas> Dunno his much work it would be
[12:17:33] <chromas> That would also be fun
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[12:18:22] <prospectacle> Like desktop tower defence crossed with rock paper scissors. e.g. the smuggler always steals the ball if he finds it and tries to take it home, the crusher always kills the smugger if they run into each other, but the pusher knocks the crusher out of the way 3 squares. Something like that
[12:18:48] <prospectacle> Sounds hard though
[12:19:05] <prospectacle> Maybe a smaller version of that idea, in order to educate myself and build a library that can be used for future games.
[12:19:50] <chromas> Tiddlywinks
[12:20:02] <prospectacle> nice
[12:20:09] <chromas> Or pickup sticks
[12:20:46] <prospectacle> or like a golf-pool with a limited # of moves to get all the balls in the hole
[12:21:02] <prospectacle> With each level the hole gets smaller and the ball count gets higher
[12:21:22] <prospectacle> that might not be too hard actually. You only have to come up with one set of physics and then iteratively apply it to all ball-interactions
[12:21:36] <prospectacle> Maybe if it's too easy I can have some balls are more bouncy, or more heavy than others.
[12:22:27] <prospectacle> pickup sticks sounds hard. how do you play tiddlywinks again?
[12:22:27] <chromas> I started on an upwords-like game once, to play online with my mom. got fancy with the rendered graphics. Then she discovered the facebook ones
[12:22:36] <prospectacle> You press one disc into another and have to get them in a cup or sometihng?
[12:22:46] <prospectacle> stupid facebook
[12:23:10] <prospectacle> Does your game still exist? Is it online?
[12:23:23] <chromas> Yeah. They're little coin looking things
[12:24:08] <chromas> Nah. Don't have that computer and hadn't started using source control. It wasn't web though
[12:24:56] <chromas> The tiles were wood with grass trim and stuff
[12:25:06] <prospectacle> sounds cool. What did you use for the graphics?
[12:25:08] <chromas> Graphics++
[12:25:08] <Bender> karma - graphics: 1
[12:25:59] <chromas> Blender to render then in the game it was just whatever windows uses for drawing components. Gdi I guess
[12:27:59] <chromas> If you need brass tiles or something...:D
[12:28:13] <prospectacle> I'm watching the remake of totall recall on tv. Do you reckon Phillip K Dick had that syndrome where you think people are imposters even though you know they look and sound just like the right person?
[12:28:18] <prospectacle> All his movies seem to be about that kind of thing.
[12:28:53] <prospectacle> Chromas, re: blender, it sounds pretty nifty I should learn to use blender. What's the learning curve like?
[12:29:34] <chromas> what? That's a syndrome? I thought it was real!
[12:29:35] <chromas> :D
[12:29:49] <prospectacle> lol, well in your case it is, but only cause you're the star of the chromas show
[12:30:25] <chromas> Dunno. I played with Animation:Master and stuff first, but once I learned Blender, c4d and stuff just seem too awkward to keep playing with
[12:30:59] <chromas> it seemed hard until I did a couple tutorials and then suddenly the concepts kind of snapped into place
[12:31:11] <chromas> So I know how to use it, even if I still don't have the talent :D
[12:31:45] <prospectacle> tutorials++
[12:31:46] <Bender> karma - tutorials: 1
[12:31:58] <chromas> And it's definitely easier than ever before, what with organized buttons and all
[12:32:29] <chromas> also everything's programmable through python
[12:32:41] <chromas> everyone's favorite language
[12:35:26] <prospectacle> Everyone does love python
[12:35:40] <prospectacle> yet another thing I should really learn one day
[12:36:26] <prospectacle> I hear it's magic and also tastes like chocolate
[12:37:45] * prospectacle remembers he's got some chocolate and will brb
[12:38:21] <chromas> ooh
[12:38:43] <prospectacle> mmm, freddos with hundreds and thousands
[12:39:37] <prospectacle> do you want one I'll fax it to you
[12:40:03] <chromas> lol
[12:40:38] <chromas> 555-1212
[12:41:34] <prospectacle> did you get it
[12:41:52] <chromas> still coming through
[12:42:15] <chromas> (beeeeep!)
[12:42:19] <chromas> mmm
[12:42:21] <chromas> thanks!
[12:43:14] <prospectacle> no problem. they were 10 for $4 at the servo
[12:45:13] <d33tah> can i somehow delete my news comment?
[12:46:41] <prospectacle> Dont' think so, but I reckon that could be a good thing. Not editing, as that can change the meaning of other people's replies, against their will. But deleting is probably a good feature to have at some point.
[12:46:45] <chromas> nope; the only option is to fake your death and change your name
[12:46:49] <prospectacle> lol
[12:46:51] <ciri> hehehe
[12:47:15] * chromas runs off to search for the comment
[12:47:17] <prospectacle> That's how I get out of buying rounds at the pub
[12:47:46] <prospectacle> "oh it's my round, ok I'll be right back..."
[12:48:30] <chromas> lool
[12:48:32] <prospectacle> "...prospectacle was hit by a truck but he had a note on him saying you should be friends with me, praspoctacle. Who's round is it?"
[12:49:19] <prospectacle> What did you say, d33tah?
[12:49:54] <d33tah> prospectacle: nothing really harmful, just didn't want it to be googlable so i'd prefer to repost it as an AC
[12:51:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DoxBox: Open-Source Disk Encryption for Windows - http://sylnt.us
[12:52:21] <d33tah> nice article!
[12:55:58] <chromas> from the it-totally-wasn't-tdk dept
[12:56:07] <d33tah> Language files blank comment code
[12:56:09] <d33tah> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[12:56:11] <d33tah> Pascal 334 26946 23506 119521
[12:56:13] <d33tah> C 446 19748 21166 95006
[12:56:15] <d33tah> HTML 27 3205 107 11565
[12:56:23] <chromas> Pascal++
[12:56:23] <Bender> karma - pascal: 15
[12:56:31] <chromas> Pascal++ for power of two
[12:56:31] <Bender> karma - pascal: 16
[13:10:51] <prospectacle> UPS tracking is great. My package is currently in Botany NSW and will be delivered to me by tuesday.
[13:11:03] <prospectacle> Not necessarily worth the extra money, but pretty cool.
[13:13:14] <prospectacle> Couriers++
[13:13:14] <Bender> karma - couriers: 1
[13:13:49] <Bytram|away> http://www.livefromiceland.is
[13:13:51] <monopoly> ^ 03Bárðarbunga
[13:14:04] <Bytram|away> http://news.sciencemag.org
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[14:31:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Peak Prosperity: Preparing for the Demise of Growth - http://sylnt.us - Subsistence-Farming
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[15:08:13] <Lagg> chromas, d33tah: Kind of relieved I wasn't the only one that saw the problems here. Though the bizarreness goes deeper than that http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:14] <monopoly> ^ 04SN comment by Lagg (105)
[15:08:33] <Lagg> It frankly creeped me out so much that I was going to say something in the channel anyway. It's just weird.
[15:08:51] <Lagg> Not ready to cry wolf/social engineering yet. But just weird. Plain goddamn weird.
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[15:36:30] <NCommander> w00t w00t w00t
[15:36:37] * NCommander has a rough outline for next steps for SN
[15:37:09] <NCommander> A 6 page/3000 word document that says "here's where we need to be six months from now"
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[16:58:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> sweet zombie jesus, NCommander done filled up my gmail storage all by his lonesome
[16:58:32] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, <g>
[16:58:46] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, business crap is long, even when its not filled w/ BS
[16:58:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[16:58:54] * n1 knows that all too well
[16:59:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> takes a whole page to say what should be two sentences worth.
[17:00:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Meet F.L.I.P. (the FLoating Instrument Platform) - http://sylnt.us - Science-Ho!
[17:04:27] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, do me a favor, if/when matt/mrcoolbp show up, tell them to call me
[17:04:33] <NCommander> My sleep cycle is fucke dup
[17:04:36] <NCommander> Worse than usual
[17:04:42] <NCommander> and I don't trust myself to get up for an alarm
[17:04:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[17:05:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely be on my laptop by then but i'll keep irc up.
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[17:31:12] <TheMightyLaptop> hot. tired.
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[17:44:40] <TheMightyLaptop> mrcoolbp, ping
[17:55:12] <Lagg> TheMightyLaptop, NCommander: Did you restart the site
[17:55:15] <Lagg> Did you really
[17:55:22] <Lagg> rly
[17:55:25] <NCommander> Lagg, no
[17:55:30] * NCommander hasn't even bene on SN right now
[17:55:31] <TheMightyLaptop> hrm? not i.
[17:55:32] <NCommander> Talking with a friend
[17:55:40] <TheMightyLaptop> <--- dev not admin
[17:55:45] <NCommander> Shit
[17:55:45] <ciri> i don't see any shit
[17:55:46] <NCommander> it died
[17:55:47] <NCommander> Crap
[17:55:57] * NCommander hits the PANIC button
[17:56:31] <Lagg> I wrote out a half essay length to this dishonest tdk character and suddenly 503. Hopefully it still gets POST'd for previewing
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[17:56:45] <NCommander> Lagg, appears Apache lost its shit
[17:56:46] <NCommander> Stand by
[17:57:21] <mythterj> Is maintenance underway? 503 on the log in page of the site
[17:57:28] <NCommander> mythterj, node panic
[17:57:37] <NCommander> mythterj, we're running on one node because hydrogen having issues
[17:57:41] <NCommander> then fluorine gave upt eh ghost
[17:57:42] * Lagg pokes at inspector and sees that postercomment data did indeed survive
[17:57:47] <Lagg> I'm okay now. No hurry
[17:57:47] <NCommander> System information disabled due to load higher than 4.0
[17:57:50] <NCommander> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[17:58:49] <NCommander> Ok
[17:58:55] <NCommander> We should be back in service
[17:59:16] <NCommander> or not
[17:59:17] <NCommander> fuck
[17:59:45] <NCommander> There we go
[17:59:50] <NCommander> Brick liberally applied
[18:00:25] <Lagg> but yeah I don't say stuff like this even when the article in question is even vaguely appropriate but this just smells bad. Whole thing is weird. Might have been worth reconsidering on the editor's part before posting. But I can't really expect the editors to be as assholish as me to be immediately suspicious and do background check levels of link chasing and code checking
[18:01:22] <NCommander> Lagg, I actually just brought that point up
[18:01:34] <NCommander> We need to be a bit more liberal with the reject button
[18:01:49] <n1> what story are you talking about?
[18:01:59] <NCommander> n1, I was talking in general
[18:02:06] <NCommander> Not sure what Lagg was referring to
[18:02:34] <Lagg> The anonymous (it was the author) submission discussing a project called doxbox
[18:02:47] <n1> In general, i like seeing the community tear down a story or a theory presented in the summary.
[18:03:24] <Lagg> Being presented as a novel and original project but is really a rebranded freeotfe, which I'm willing to trust just as much as I am bitlocker.
[18:03:38] <n1> I will publish stories i don't like, as long as the source that originally reported is has some legitimacy, even if the story itself might be shit. But I like seeing the community explain why.
[18:03:44] <Lagg> WEll you may enjoy my post and the followup then n1
[18:03:57] <n1> I havn't checked that story yet, but today, we're very very low on submissions
[18:04:09] <n1> if you look at the submissions queue, see what we have to choose from.
[18:04:12] <Lagg> Yeah, I'm much the same attitude but this wasn't legit. It's dishonest from the start. Even if the intentions on the author's part are good.
[18:04:32] <n1> I'm going to check it out now
[18:04:42] <Lagg> Haven't posted followup though
[18:04:59] <Lagg> Again though I wish that I could do more submissions but after that initial batch I was tapped
[18:05:32] <Lagg> So am now trying to do what I can by putting comments dutifully and as of recently trying to write patches.
[18:05:46] <n1> it's not easy to work out what good submissions are, and i've learned that good submissions (especially science) don't generate a lot of comments.
[18:06:05] <n1> but what I would say are 'crap' stories, do generate a lot of discussion.
[18:07:22] <n1> good comments make it all worthwhile, i've been pleasantly surprised by the overall quality of comments, when i've taken a step back and used the site normally, not as an editor.
[18:08:14] <Lagg> Yeah, like I said I can't really expect editors to be (essentially) as big of an asshole as I am.
[18:08:24] <n1> one of the devs commented on the story you're talking about
[18:08:33] <n1> and was open that it's a fork of the other project
[18:08:37] <Lagg> I know, he's the one I'm making the followup post to
[18:09:02] <Lagg> He was opened when the fact was called out but it's not a fork either, from my initial look it's a straight rebrand
[18:09:18] <Lagg> Which in *itself* wouldn't have been bad either if he'd have not presented it as anything but.
[18:09:37] <n1> mhm
[18:09:59] <TheMightyLaptop> all forks start with little to no new code though
[18:10:32] <TheMightyLaptop> little premature to go publicizing it before you make your contribution though.
[18:11:26] <n1> i can't disagree, i'm happy that we have a forum to discuss these things of things with respect. We have rejected quite a few stories that are straight up adverts, but it's very hard to draw the line sometimes.
[18:11:27] <Lagg> Would also be fair, but this is literally a rebrand. I'm not misusing literal
[18:11:42] <Lagg> I consider anything with distinct original code to be a fork. I could find none here.
[18:12:24] <Lagg> In fact the commit tips for most of the files say that they are as shipped from freeotfe, and I can't stress this enough, that would be FINE if he'd have presented it as such
[18:17:00] <Lagg> n1, TheMightyLaptop: Here is the followup post in question. I don't really say stuff like this lightly because as you know saying such things to another programmer is like punching him in the face and saying he's not working hard enough.I sure wouldn't want people saying that crap to me unless I really deserved it.
[18:17:02] <Lagg> http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:03] <monopoly> ^ 04SN comment by Lagg (105)
[18:18:07] <Lagg> So I looked into the project as much as time and patience would allow. I didn't give it the ol' two hour teardown but there were honestly not that many places to look.
[18:20:40] <TheMightyLaptop> mmm
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[18:23:06] <n1> Lagg, m still digesting your comment, i did just notice that on the 'squte.com' website he made mention of, 'tdk' has userid 11 on that site and has used it to make doxbox announcements.
[18:23:10] <n1> it's a small world.
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[18:27:35] <n1> Lagg, your comment was a measured and appropriate response so thanks for making it. :)
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[18:38:54] * TheMightyLaptop goes back to reading nc's latest novel
[18:42:15] <NCommander> Lagg, ... you do realize you search NCommander on Google, and my RL name is the first hit?
[18:42:44] <Lagg> No, because I've never searched for you on google :/
[18:43:26] <Lagg> Plus I didn't think it was appropriate to explain your name the same way as mine since I don't know its history and isn't any of my business unless you want it to be
[18:45:35] <TheMightyLaptop> so getting all those credit cards in his name would have been inappropriate?
[18:51:19] <TheMightyLaptop> we need internal messaging capabilities for the site.
[18:52:59] <TheMightyLaptop> setting up and modifying templates would be the most work.
[19:08:54] <_NSAKEY> NCommander: That's really funny. You'd think the guy would have actually tried googling you before saying that.
[19:08:56] <NCommander> TheMightyLaptop, its been on my TODO for awhile
[19:09:15] <NCommander> ugh
[19:09:18] <NCommander> Fuck me sideways
[19:09:25] <NCommander> I'm probably going to pass out here soon
[19:09:27] <TheMightyLaptop> ya?
[19:09:34] <NCommander> This is my best chance to sleep through and be on a normal schedule
[19:09:36] <NCommander> We have a board meeting
[19:09:41] <NCommander> ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[19:09:42] <TheMightyLaptop> today?
[19:09:46] <NCommander> yeah
[19:09:49] <TheMightyLaptop> thought it was wednesday
[19:10:24] <TheMightyLaptop> catch four hours. not more not less.
[19:10:53] <TheMightyLaptop> sleep cycles last 3.5-4h and you'll feel a lot better than any other amount short of 8h.
[19:11:28] <NCommander> TheMightyLaptop, the point here is to get on a normal sleep cycle
[19:11:58] <TheMightyLaptop> right, catch 4 now and 4 during normal sleep time. tomorrow, just 8 at normal sleep time.
[19:12:28] <TheMightyLaptop> splitting it makes switching up easier. trust me on this. many years of experimentation and lost sleep.
[19:15:01] <TheMightyLaptop> do we have an issue up for private messaging yet?
[19:30:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Feynman Lectures in Physics Released Online - http://sylnt.us - terms-and-conditions-apply
[19:48:26] <TheMightyLaptop> coffee++
[19:48:26] <Bender> karma - coffee: 667
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[20:03:06] <Lagg> "setting up and modifying templates would be the most work" - Only TTK can inspire such remarks
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[20:18:52] <TheMightyLaptop> hrm?
[20:18:58] <TheMightyLaptop> what's a ttk?
[20:19:32] <arti> Typing Those Keywords
[20:38:18] <TheMightyLaptop> mrcoolbping
[20:39:18] <chromas> Lol
[20:39:18] <ciri> hahaha
[20:39:32] <TheMightyLaptop> my brain is wacky like that
[20:39:50] * chromas does that a lot too
[20:40:55] <TheMightyLaptop> random channel survey: whatcha think of https://github.com
[20:41:47] * chromas wouldn't rank in
[20:42:24] <TheMightyLaptop> i'd prolly be ranked in the troll comment rankings
[20:42:32] <chromas> As for the subscriber badge; not sure why some people don't like the idea
[20:42:46] <chromas> They could be ascii chars, like how deviantArt does, or better
[20:42:55] <TheMightyLaptop> not subscriber, regular submitter
[20:43:09] <chromas> yeah but it was mentioned
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[20:43:12] <TheMightyLaptop> nod nod
[20:43:15] <chromas> though only for comparison
[20:43:22] <TheMightyLaptop> i think EF was the only one who panned it
[20:43:32] <TheMightyLaptop> afternoon, FunPika
[20:43:46] <chromas> On da, you have ~user, #user_who_is_admin, !banned_user etc
[20:44:06] <TheMightyLaptop> nod nod
[20:44:13] <TheMightyLaptop> easy to add another
[20:44:13] <chromas> or they could just be little chars somewhere that can stack up and be cryptic
[20:44:27] <TheMightyLaptop> could be, ya
[20:44:35] <chromas> "I got a %^@; woohoo!"
[20:44:36] <TheMightyLaptop> like geekcode
[20:45:29] <chromas> I remember that
[20:45:33] <chromas> I think mine was 0
[20:46:05] <TheMightyLaptop> could even put something in your sig like [slashcode] and have slash replace it with your personal calculated score.
[20:46:45] <chromas> ooh, Soylent Factor
[20:49:31] <TheMightyLaptop> i WILL write that but it may have to take a back seat to m2 and user to user messaging
[21:01:23] <chromas> and we need a karma of at least 40 to message
[21:01:31] <chromas> screw those other guys
[21:05:15] <TheMightyLaptop> ya think?
[21:05:40] <TheMightyLaptop> cause it only goes to 50
[21:07:05] <chromas> >:)
[21:07:34] <TheMightyLaptop> sigh. i need about 4 more of me to do all the things i want to get done, much less the ones that sound like a pain in the butt but i need to do anyway.
[21:10:46] <chromas> I'd poke my head in the source but perl gives me aids
[21:11:08] <TheMightyLaptop> hearing or marital?
[21:11:55] <chromas> heh, at first, I thought the second option was "mental"
[21:16:33] <chromas> Ask Soylent: Are most perl devs smokers?
[21:17:03] <TheMightyLaptop> i am, dunno bout pj
[21:17:10] <TheMightyLaptop> and nc quit last i heard
[21:17:13] <chromas> hehe, asking opinions about a statistic :D
[21:17:27] <chromas> correlation = causation, man
[21:17:36] <chromas> s/=/\1\1/
[21:17:36] <_KEY> <chromas> correlation causation, man
[21:17:39] <chromas> aw
[21:18:02] <chromas> that doesn't work how I rememberd
[21:19:21] <chromas> but that's one yes out of three, so the answer is probably yes
[21:19:41] <TheMightyLaptop> of course
[21:19:59] <TheMightyLaptop> paulej72, you a smoker?
[21:23:05] <chromas> he's out having a toke right now
[21:23:31] <TheMightyLaptop> oh, wrong kind of smoker for me then
[21:23:41] <TheMightyLaptop> tobacco only
[21:26:30] <TheMightyLaptop> can't have your faculties impaired and understand slash at the same time.
[21:29:22] <paulej72> TheMightyLaptop: no, but I second hand smoked for 18 years :)
[21:30:18] <TheMightyLaptop> might be enough i guess.
[21:41:07] <chromas> or he jjust hasn't been perlin' long enough
[21:41:18] <chromas> heh, my ffinger's a-sstutterin'
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[21:48:15] <TheMightyLaptop> mornin, crutchy
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[21:52:17] <crutchy> mornin TheMightyLaptop
[21:52:20] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:52:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 668
[21:52:32] <crutchy> some SN probs last night?
[21:52:36] <crutchy> ~queue
[21:52:37] <TheMightyLaptop> coffee++
[21:52:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 669
[21:52:40] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 7 - http://sylnt.us
[21:53:39] <crutchy> my IRC died cos i shut my lappy lid
[21:54:04] <chromas> so YOU killed sn!
[21:57:37] <crutchy> if ($lappy_lid_shut==True) { fire_ion_cannon($linode); }
[22:00:45] <chromas> ooh, it looks like I can screw two 2.5" HDDs sideways into the bracket
[22:00:57] * chromas doesn't have any more 3.5" disks
[22:06:49] <crutchy> have you tried inserting one into the cd rom drive?
[22:08:13] <chromas> and also tried turning it off and then on again
[22:08:21] <crutchy> if it's 48x then a 7200rpm hdd will go 345600rpm!
[22:08:57] <chromas> holy shit! Now I gotta get it to work
[22:10:01] <TheMightyLaptop> will got a lot faster if you use a good drill instead of the stock motor.
[22:10:06] <crutchy> crap. off to workipoos i go...
[22:10:08] <crutchy> cyas
[22:10:10] <TheMightyLaptop> yar
[22:10:13] <TheMightyLaptop> work--
[22:10:13] <Bender> karma - work: -6
[22:10:14] * chromas wonders how that would affect an ssd
[22:10:17] <chromas> bye
[22:12:32] <chromas> "Drive high, get a DUI". Shuddup radio!
[22:12:35] <TheMightyLaptop> works fine, drill a few holes in and the air aids in cooling.
[22:14:25] <chromas> plus it's more aerodynamic
[22:14:36] * chromas considers a racing stripe for additional speed
[22:14:46] <TheMightyLaptop> now yer thinkin
[22:15:22] <chromas> I wonder if that's what ties are for, besides being a noose at the ready
[22:17:19] <TheMightyLaptop> no, i think that's suspenders
[22:17:41] <chromas> symmetry++
[22:17:41] <Bender> karma - symmetry: 2
[22:18:02] <TheMightyLaptop> it annoys me that the word symmetry is not a palindrome
[22:18:06] * chromas notes that the word is not itself symmetrical
[22:19:18] <chromas> must be a tradition. "Palindrome" is not a palindrome and "lisp" is not pronouncable by people with a lisp
[22:21:21] <chromas> People without teeth can't make the "th" phoneme but they always do on tv instead of an "s" which doesn't use teef
[22:24:58] <TheMightyLaptop> but they can make the s
[22:26:30] <chromas> Yeah
[22:26:40] <chromas> Hollywood--
[22:26:40] <Bender> karma - hollywood: -1
[22:27:25] <TheMightyLaptop> little more whistly S if they're missing all of them but still.
[22:27:46] <chromas> Hollywood doesn't get it wrong that often, though
[22:28:16] * chromas puts a gun to my head to make the decryption go faster
[22:30:10] <TheMightyLaptop> why'd they even need you? they didn't think to try swordfish?
[22:32:05] <chromas> Exactly! If all else fails, look to the title drop
[22:33:56] * chromas can't find spare vga cable; loses
[22:34:12] <chromas> !Roll 2d12
[22:34:12] <ciri> chromas rolls 17
[22:34:37] <arti> and extender vga cable?
[22:34:38] <chromas> 17 nerd cred
[22:34:45] <arti> !roll 1d20
[22:34:45] <ciri> arti rolls 11
[22:35:24] <chromas> Nah just need a display for long enough to install another arch
[22:35:33] <chromas> Archlinux++
[22:35:33] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 36
[22:42:06] <chromas> also tmb that was the exact movie I was thinking of
[22:58:25] <TheMightyLaptop> isn't there supposed to be a board meeting tonight?
[22:59:24] <chromas> I think so
[23:00:14] <chromas> So it's time to go fishing again
[23:00:20] <arti> phishing
[23:00:52] <arti> Hello this is Steve Case with AOL Member Services. Would you happen to have your Account Name handy?
[23:00:54] <ciri> hey whats up arti
[23:00:55] <TheMightyLaptop> fine idea but i've got too much lazy in my ass area right now to drive to the fishing hole
[23:01:10] <arti> you should drink some of my beer and we can play cards
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[23:01:20] <arti> he lives
[23:01:20] <juggs> TheMightyLaptop, in an hour I believe
[23:01:27] <TheMightyLaptop> see what happens when you mention booze?
[23:01:32] <arti> the summoning!
[23:01:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahaha
[23:01:36] <TheMightyLaptop> juggs, nifty
[23:01:45] <arti> [16:00] <+TheMightyLaptop> fine idea but i've got too much lazy in my ass area right now to drive to the fishing hole
[23:01:45] <arti> [16:01] <+arti> you should drink some of my beer and we can play cards
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[23:01:46] <Ethanol-fueled> It's like Spidey-sense, except for alcoholics.
[23:02:24] <TheMightyLaptop> yar
[23:02:48] <arti> how's it going eth
[23:03:04] <Ethanol-fueled> kinda bleeech. Studied and read, now ready for an early bedtime.
[23:03:11] <TheMightyLaptop> you n me both
[23:03:26] <Ethanol-fueled> saw a lot of nice juicy black butts bouncing around at the bar last night.
[23:03:42] <Ethanol-fueled> They have quite the hypnotizing effect.
[23:03:45] <TheMightyLaptop> really wanted a nap but got distracted long enough that it'd just be going to bed now.
[23:04:07] <Ethanol-fueled> go fishing today?
[23:04:09] <arti> richard attenborough is dead
[23:04:18] <arti> wonder how that's going to work for jurassic park
[23:04:24] <TheMightyLaptop> ya, skunked though. caught diddly cept bait
[23:05:25] <chromas> arti: it worked with Keaneu Reeves in the matrix movies
[23:06:15] <Ethanol-fueled> keanu is still alive.
[23:06:43] <chromas> Are you sure? I thought they just used a cardboard cutout
[23:07:02] <Ethanol-fueled> guess it makes no difference, given the quality of the acting.
[23:07:07] <arti> nah you're thinking our president :D
[23:07:08] <Ethanol-fueled> his acting, that is.
[23:07:35] <chromas> I suppose that made for easier special effects
[23:07:44] <chromas> Don't need to animate the face
[23:07:49] <Ethanol-fueled> hahaha
[23:07:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Hey, johnny mnemonic was a pretty rad movie.
[23:08:07] <arti> come to jesus
[23:08:24] <arti> dolph was awesome as the street preacher
[23:08:25] <Ethanol-fueled> and A Scanner Darkly, which gave me a bad trip because I ate too many weed cookies before I saw it. The ending was such a downer.
[23:08:34] <chromas> arti: isn't that what Jesus told the children?
[23:08:38] <arti> Ethanol-fueled you should come over so we can smoke some beer
[23:08:53] <Ethanol-fueled> no thanks. I have a bottle of Heinie and then bedtime.
[23:09:04] <arti> i have some edibles if you want black sleep
[23:09:14] <arti> "next thing i knew it was tomorrow"
[23:09:20] <Ethanol-fueled> if you werent so damn far away, sure.
[23:09:39] <arti> yeah, maybe take the train
[23:09:44] <arti> o.@
[23:09:58] <arti> i went to westminster walmart
[23:10:06] <arti> that was an ethnic experience
[23:12:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Chinese?
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[23:12:42] <arti> mix of se asian
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[23:19:34] * arti might've just heard a goat
[23:19:38] * arti investigates
[23:22:10] <chromas> The bsa has radio ads :-( and of the world
[23:23:15] <chromas> End
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[23:37:53] <juggs> .op
[23:37:53] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o juggs] by juggler
[23:38:08] <juggs> .topic SoylentNews PBC Board of Directors will be held on Sunday, August 24th at 23:59 UTC (7:59pm EDT) in #staff - all are cordially invited!
[23:38:08] juggler changed topic of #Soylent to: SoylentNews PBC Board of Directors will be held on Sunday, August 24th at 23:59 UTC (7:59pm EDT) in #staff - all are cordially invited!
[23:38:17] <juggs> .deop
[23:38:17] -!- mode/#Soylent [-o juggs] by juggler
[23:38:26] <SpallsHurgenson> geez, it's Sunday; take a day off!
[23:38:42] <juggs> .op
[23:38:42] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o juggs] by juggler
[23:38:52] <juggs> .topic SoylentNews PBC Board of Directors meeting will be held on Sunday, August 24th at 23:59 UTC (7:59pm EDT) in #staff - all are cordially invited!
[23:38:52] juggler changed topic of #Soylent to: SoylentNews PBC Board of Directors meeting will be held on Sunday, August 24th at 23:59 UTC (7:59pm EDT) in #staff - all are cordially invited!
[23:38:58] <juggs> .deop
[23:38:58] -!- mode/#Soylent [-o juggs] by juggler
[23:39:36] <juggs> Don't blame me Spalls :D It's those pesky directors! :)
[23:41:07] <SpallsHurgenson> hasn't there been a meeting, like, every night this week? I think soylent is letting their corporatehoodness go to their heads :)
[23:42:44] <juggs> I think this is the 3rd this week... mebbe I lost count though - I think they just want to put this initial incorporation stuff to bed rather than let it drag on and on.
[23:44:11] <SpallsHurgenson> well, let's hope they can beat the record of that last four-hour-long meeting... can they keep this sucker going until 1AM EST? Let's find out!
[23:44:36] <TheMightyLaptop> mrcoolbp, ping
[23:45:04] <mrcoolbp> you have good timing
[23:45:07] <mrcoolbp> er, pong
[23:45:13] <TheMightyLaptop> outstandin
[23:51:29] * mrcoolbp is pesky juggs, that's true
[23:51:59] * mrcoolbp whack's SpallsHurgenson
[23:52:57] <SpallsHurgenson> say, if I go to #staff, can I draw out the meeting with a bunch of obnoxious questons? :)
[23:53:12] <TheMightyLaptop> i'd be surprised if you couldn't
[23:53:40] <SpallsHurgenson> fortunately for you guys, I can only manage to be obnoxious in one channel at a time :)
[23:54:08] * mrcoolbp readies his unobtanium banhammer of kicking +498732 and glares at SpallsHurgenson
[23:54:32] <mrcoolbp> just in case...
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[23:55:02] <mrcoolbp> ehlo matt_
[23:55:04] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, if poutine is still welcome here, I should be safe, right? :)
[23:55:08] * SpallsHurgenson tempts fate
[23:55:15] <matt_> mrcoolbp, hi!
[23:55:30] * juggs wields his soper mrcoolbp crusher mace of justice.... just in case things get out of hand :P
[23:55:44] <mrcoolbp> "soper" ?
[23:56:01] <juggs> super ops or some such epeen :D
[23:56:06] <SpallsHurgenson> super sobriety?
[23:56:12] <mrcoolbp> yeah I ready sober
[23:57:02] <mrcoolbp> SpallsHurgenson: though he's annoying at times, mr. tine isn't quite annoying enough to kick, and nearly observent enough to even be useful
[23:57:26] <SpallsHurgenson> uh-oh... that doesn't bode well for me :)
[23:57:33] <mrcoolbp> nope = )
[23:57:50] * SpallsHurgenson starts looking for blackmail material