#Soylent | Logs for 2014-08-20
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[01:01:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - First Release of the GPLGPU - A Truly Free GPU - http://sylnt.us - gee-pee-ell-gee-pee-yoo
[01:01:55] <sea> Oh? Now that's interesting
[01:02:55] <juggs> Sounds good if it genuinely is truly free
[01:04:51] <swiss> i like epitaxial's comment
[01:05:12] <sea> I wonder if it supports openCL
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[01:10:11] <sea> I suppose they would have called it a GGPLGPU if it did
[01:10:19] <sea> Or perhaps a GPLGGPU
[01:10:41] <sea> Or maybe a GGPLGGPU, for good measure.
[01:11:18] <sea> Oh, no it needs a P in there, so a GPGPLGPU, or a GPLGPGPU
[01:13:14] <sea> The next model will probably include cryptography extensions, so it will be a GPLGPGPGGPU
[01:14:10] <sea> woops, I swapped the P and G, it's a GPL-GPG-GP-GPU. Right.
[01:15:06] <xunie-laptop> Is this some GnuPG joke?
[01:15:35] <sea> Look at the last posted SN article. "First release of the GPLGPU"
[01:15:42] <xunie-laptop> Yeah, I read it.
[01:17:44] <xunie-laptop> It's just, you were mocking the naming. What I meant to say was "Is this some GnuPG/GPLGPU naming joke?"
[01:18:13] <sea> It's not mocking, have you seen the name? GPG-GP-GPL-GPU. That's clever.
[01:18:29] <sea> If you examine the words, it's 4 words that each begin with 'GP', so it's a 'GP4', like the GPL4
[01:18:34] <sea> (which isn't as yet out)
[01:18:48] <sea> and on top of that, if you examine the LAST letter of each word, you get G-P-L-U
[01:19:07] <sea> and that's funny, because you can let u > 3
[01:19:16] <sea> or >= 3
[01:19:48] <xunie-laptop> So you're saying it's a conspiracy and the GPL4 will never be released?
[01:22:38] <sea> What's a synonym for 'calculator' that begins with p?
[01:25:01] <xunie-laptop> "P=NP-hard abacus"?
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[01:32:49] <sea> if you add more p's and g's in there carefully with an extra word thrown in occasionally you could probably fit the whole alphabet into the name
[01:36:14] <poutine> GPLv3 is unenforceable
[01:36:22] <poutine> with its anti-tivo stuff
[01:36:32] <poutine> I guess they actually split that into the affero license
[01:36:37] <poutine> that one is totally never going to get enforced
[01:37:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> software licenses are fascist anyway. beerware license is the only truly good one of the bunch.
[01:40:21] <juggs> I'll just leave this here.... no doubt most are already aware of it, but it gives me a chuckle nonetheless http://www.wtfpl.net
[01:41:02] * sea lives in a place where copyright laws aren't enforced, and happy breaks them with impunity.
[01:41:14] <sea> All licenses are equally worthless here.
[01:41:35] <sea> Or so I think, anyway. Maybe that changed behind my back
[01:43:40] <sea> http://en.wikipedia.org Look at this, TheMightyBuzzard. Look at the "Criticism" section, the quoted text there between paragraphs 1 and 2.
[01:43:41] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03Special 301 Report: The Special 301 Report is prepared annually by the Office of the United States Trade Representative (USTR) under Section 301 as amended of the Trade Act of 1974. The reports identify trade barriers to U.S. companies and products due to t...
[01:44:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> sea, our blockquotes are better
[01:45:25] * sea doesn't remember what they look like
[01:45:47] <juggs> you don't need to - they changed today :D
[01:45:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://soylentnews.org
[01:45:52] <monopoly> ^ 04SN article 03 Greenwald Calls Out CIA Funded NPR Propaganda 04(15 comments):
[01:45:59] <pbnjoe> I was just coming here to say something about them :P
[01:45:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> give a look
[01:46:26] <sea> Oh they rise off the page
[01:46:29] <sea> but only on one side?
[01:46:46] <Subsentient> GPL 3 huh?
[01:46:48] <sea> and there's no shadow on the top or bottom?
[01:46:52] <Subsentient> Public domain, bitch.
[01:46:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> right side is heavier
[01:47:18] <poutine> software licensing should not have a philosophy
[01:47:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really supposed to be 3d, just set off enough to make tracking easy
[01:47:30] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, only tiny gripe I have is with single line quotes - the text is not vertically centred - and yes I know I can be a picky SOB :D
[01:47:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, bugs me too
[01:47:55] <sea> Is there a preferences setting to make it have a shadow all the way around?
[01:48:17] <juggs> it's just a tiny fly in the otherwise lovely ointment though IMO
[01:48:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> sea, stylish extension for firefox can do that.
[01:48:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> it looked bloody ugly on comments with a bar on the right too though.
[01:49:57] <pbnjoe> were people having issues following what was being said? I felt that indenting all the quoted lines was enough to differentiate
[01:50:08] <pbnjoe> that's not to say I don't like this new way, though
[01:50:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> "Depending on the number of seeders and the clients they use, download rates can be decreased by 1000%"
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[01:50:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ima stop reading torrentfreak until they can learn to math.
[01:51:02] <pbnjoe> I was also just reading that
[01:51:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> pbnjoe, more complaints about the fading than not and otherwise it was just default blockquote styling.
[01:51:55] <pbnjoe> naw, their math is correct, this attack brings download speeds to -900%
[01:52:07] <pbnjoe> data is being vacuumed out of the hard drive
[01:52:18] <pbnjoe> ;)
[01:52:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, gotta be that
[01:52:53] <pbnjoe> and ah, ok
[01:53:04] <sea> which attack where?
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[01:53:18] <paulej72> look at the code. slash has this stupid idea the it has to have the blockquote content in a p tag inside a div. these extra levels mess with the css
[01:53:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it's all kinds of fscked up fun
[01:54:29] <pbnjoe> sea, http://torrentfreak.com
[01:54:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can fix it in a few minutes but i'm damned well not going to tonight. couch+ass+beer+tv
[01:55:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> did you know deep-fried tequila shots are a thing?
[01:55:56] <sea> That sounds explosive.
[01:56:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds like a waste of perfectly good tequila to me.
[01:56:46] <paulej72> how in the fuck
[01:57:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.ohbiteit.com
[01:57:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> apparently they put tequila in funnel-cake type batter.
[01:58:47] <sea> Why are alcoholic drinks so creative? It's unfair.
[01:59:23] <sea> If I want a non-alcoholic drink, all I have is juice, water, and the 'virgin' versions of the alcoholic stuff..but the alcoholic drinks have all of these fancy names and some come with leaves, flowers, gummy bears, and I don't even know what else
[01:59:51] <sea> oh, and some contain ice cream.
[02:00:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to go out on a limb and guess it's because a) alcohol is intoxicating b) alcohol tastes bad to a lot of people
[02:00:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> also, they can charge you more money because it has alcohol in it
[02:00:48] <sea> Hrm. I thought it was a secret plot to get people to buy all of the drinks, just to see what clever things they've come up with
[02:01:37] <paulej72> also alcohol brings out different flavors in food
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[02:02:00] <sea> We should start a soylent restaurant
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[02:02:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> dibs on official scotch steward
[02:02:19] <sea> We could sell real soylent green!
[02:06:04] <sea> Hm, what's the best way to tell someone that they're spending too much time learning new programming languages and installing too many distros?
[02:07:13] <juggs> wait til they get bored of doing it. They'll settle in the end.
[02:08:46] <paulej72> sea: a spray bottle full of water, squirt them wile fimly sayinf no
[02:09:57] <sea> Maybe. I think they've managed to lose a solid 3 years of time on re-compiling and solving the same distro-installation problems over, and over, and over again. Two weeks ago we were supposed to work on something, but they put it off each day to finish the installation, and tonight they got fed up and wiped the system and are going again
[02:10:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> home or work?
[02:10:40] <sea> and the one time they actually had time free "Okay, all set.", I was asleep, hahaha
[02:11:37] <paulej72> shock coller with remote
[02:12:20] <paulej72> connect remote to keyboard and mouse output
[02:14:14] <sea> A shock collar might be a good idea.
[02:15:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> "This is your last install. Choose wisely because the next one will be vastly complicated by a claw hammer."
[02:15:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> or possibly ball-peen hammer just because i like saying ball-peen hammer
[02:16:40] <sea> I'm making progress with: "In the time you spent learning a bajillion languages, you could have done a math degree and then learned the /theory of/ programming languages"
[02:17:37] <sea> and a few days ago I showed them a couple of problems that look really hard at first, but which have O(1) solutions if you know how to fiddle with them analytically
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[02:21:24] <sea> Stuff like: "Calculate the trillionth term of the sequence defined by.. (recurrence)" and "Find the smallest number of sheep that can jump over a fence given these restrictions..." and "Determine whether it's possible to deliver packages to these cities from this central hub along those roads if you have n cars and each one has m gas" (some graph stuff)
[02:22:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Delaware Becomes First State to Give Heirs Access to Digital Assets - http://sylnt.us - violating-terms-and-conditions
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[02:52:22] <JamesNZ> Sounds like a good idea.
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[03:54:43] <arti> chuuuuub
[03:54:46] <arti> dubdub
[03:54:52] * arti waits for a pizza to cook
[04:01:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Trialling "[Satire]" Tag in Users' Feeds - http://sylnt.us - [propaganda]-tag-in-development
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[04:06:37] <Ethanol-fueled> HIYE!
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[04:19:12] <JamesNZ> BIYE!
[04:19:40] <arti> heh
[04:20:00] <arti> !pizza
[04:20:12] * JamesNZ licks his lips
[04:20:13] <arti> !pizza pepperoni
[04:20:14] * ciri bakes a pizza with pepperoni on it and brings it over to arti.
[04:20:20] <arti> !tip $15
[04:20:20] * ciri thanks arti for the $15!
[04:38:14] <Popeidol> !tip fun night out
[04:38:15] * ciri thanks Popeidol for the fun night out!
[04:38:34] <Popeidol> !tip music
[04:38:34] * ciri thanks Popeidol for the music!
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[04:45:04] <arti> well, that's how it goes.
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[05:13:30] <Konomi> sudo lsof -c sshd | grep -E ' [34]u * IPv[46] | 3r * REG '
[05:13:33] <Konomi> I love linux
[05:29:29] <ar> Konomi: what's that supposed to return?
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[05:52:25] <Konomi> any net connectiomn or file handle sshd has open
[05:57:51] <arti> that's pretty neat
[06:03:09] <ar> it doesn't work for me
[06:03:56] <ar> but it seems that this does what it's supposed to do: lsof -c sshd | awk '$5 ~ /IPv(4|6)/ || $5 == "REG"'
[06:21:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - News Aggregator Fark Bans Misogyny - http://sylnt.us - it's-time-to-grow-up
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[07:00:05] <Subsentient> Well I just got banned from the only forum I ever visit.
[07:00:22] <Subsentient> Some BS about a bot going inside. I never took aqu4 in there.
[07:00:30] <Subsentient> forum + Ifc
[07:00:31] <Subsentient> irc8
[07:00:43] * mrcoolbp bans subsentient on his way to bed
[07:00:46] <mrcoolbp> g'night SN
[07:00:47] <Subsentient> So that, to me, raises the question, how hated am I here.....
[07:01:03] * Subsentient lowers hopes and expectations
[07:01:28] <Subsentient> I'm sure it's only a matter of time
[07:01:42] <Subsentient> Before I do something or slip up and everyone gets out the fucking pitch forks.
[07:02:08] <Subsentient> or maybe they'll just let me stay out of pity while silently wishing I would leave, like I really hate.
[07:02:29] * Subsentient sobs
[07:02:31] <Subsentient> $beer Subsentient
[07:02:31] * aqu4 gives Subsentient a cold can of beer
[07:02:31] <Subsentient> $beer Subsentient
[07:02:32] * aqu4 gives Subsentient a cold can of beer
[07:02:48] <Flotsam> Digital pitchfork?
[07:04:13] <Subsentient> So, at some point, when you all wish I would leave, do me a fucking favor and just TELL me? It hurts more when it's hidden, alright?
[07:04:26] <chromas> !Beer torch fuel
[07:04:26] * ciri pours some torch fuel from the tap and slides it to chromas
[07:05:42] <arti> NITE NITE MRCOOLBP
[07:05:43] <ciri> see yea later arti
[07:05:52] <chromas> Subsentient: there's a feature for aqu4. Customizable beer
[07:06:16] <Subsentient> chromas: First taker for the evening? Should I put you down for two or three twists of my nuts? How about a few rants on IRC about what a weirdo that guy is, once you've heckled him out of the channel? Or would you prefer the passive-aggressive style where you just move my posts in the forums to the dumpster no matter what they are and ignore my PMs asking why?
[07:06:33] <arti> i like all of them
[07:06:37] <arti> VOTE YES
[07:06:54] <Subsentient> $quit
[07:06:54] <aqu4> See you around.
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[07:07:03] <arti> you're typing a lot of non code, what happened?
[07:07:09] <Subsentient> So anything else to say to me? Or should I just leave now?
[07:07:37] <Subsentient> last time I asked that question I got ten days of stuff that should have been said before. Let's see what I get in this community's parting party.
[07:07:37] * arti scrolls up
[07:08:03] <arti> just connect to the irc server through another ip
[07:08:05] <arti> :D
[07:08:11] <Subsentient> I don't do that shit.
[07:08:18] <poutine> My girlfriend kneels on my arms and force feeds me her birth control pills since I have been denied the privilege to have sex with her for several months now. My breasts feel larger and I have been having all manner of emotional outbursts
[07:08:18] <Subsentient> Unwanted is unwelcome.
[07:08:36] <arti> maybe you need to equip Thick Skin?
[07:08:50] <arti> can you bribe these people with donuts?
[07:09:11] <arti> i think it would be better to not refer to yourself as hated.
[07:09:23] <Subsentient> Never been too good at that honestly. If it was one or two forums, that'd be fine, but I systematically manage to fucking piss off everyone in every forum given enough span of time, and I am eventually banned or forced to leave because of tension.
[07:09:25] <chromas> poutine++
[07:09:26] <Bender> karma - poutine: -353
[07:09:38] <arti> do you have assburgers?
[07:09:51] <Subsentient> Yes, I do, but it's not really noticable IRL.
[07:10:02] <poutine> Subsentient, WHo diagnosed you as having that?
[07:10:08] <arti> webmd.com
[07:10:09] <Subsentient> Just when I dump my mind on the plate for all to see.
[07:10:25] <poutine> Also asperger's is no longer a disorder according to the DSM-V
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[07:10:31] <Subsentient> poutine: A psych.
[07:10:32] <poutine> which is recognized in the US
[07:10:37] <arti> i'm surprised you're not convinced its cancer
[07:10:57] <Subsentient> No but I probably have an ulcer from my fucked up OCD lfe
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[07:10:59] <Subsentient> life
[07:11:00] <poutine> Subsentient, psychiatrist, psychologist?
[07:11:08] <arti> life is just a series of steps man
[07:11:13] <Subsentient> poutine: Psychopath.
[07:11:16] <arti> you should play sudden death mode
[07:11:29] * arti offers Subsentient some pizza
[07:11:35] <poutine> Subsentient, Your disorder sounds made up to me
[07:11:39] * Subsentient can't eat gluten, makes the OCD worse
[07:11:48] <Subsentient> Don't ask why, I dunno, it just does, a lot worse.
[07:11:55] * arti shares his gluten free magic brownies (srsly)
[07:11:56] <poutine> maybe you coached a mental health professional into giving you a diagnosis
[07:12:08] <Subsentient> poutine: I was fucking eight.
[07:12:16] <arti> fucking eight what?
[07:12:42] <chromas> Catholic school girls
[07:12:48] <arti> apple IIs
[07:12:50] <Subsentient> NCommander: So what do you think? Did I manage to piss you off?
[07:13:06] <arti> did you send another one of those photos where you tuck it back and do a dance where he sees you?
[07:13:09] <poutine> How old are you Subsentient?
[07:13:09] <ciri> very carefully and then some
[07:13:12] <Subsentient> Should I pack my bags? Please fucking tell me if so. It hurts a lot worse when it's passive agressive BS.
[07:13:28] <Subsentient> poutine: I was old when your universe was young. I'm fucking 19.
[07:13:36] * NCommander just woke up
[07:13:40] <poutine> fucking 19 what?
[07:13:47] <Subsentient> poutine: tentacles
[07:13:49] <chromas> Catholic school girls
[07:13:53] <NCommander> I don't use the banhammer until after coffee, food, and a shower
[07:14:04] <arti> in that order?
[07:14:10] <Subsentient> NCommander: Then I take that as a 'gtfo'?
[07:14:23] * Subsentient prepares to delete aqu4's soylent confif
[07:14:26] <arti> if your diagnosis went the same way i'd say you're alright
[07:14:27] <NCommander> Subsentient, I dunno why you think you ticked me off :-P
[07:14:51] <Subsentient> NCommander: Scroll up, as arti said.
[07:14:52] <poutine> I second the motion to ban Subsentient
[07:15:02] <poutine> as proposed by NCommander
[07:15:13] * arti waits for rt.com to pickup this scoop
[07:15:14] <Subsentient> poutine: I second the motion to feed you a cinderblock.
[07:15:26] <poutine> calm down with the violence
[07:15:37] <arti> !decide yes no "extra yes"
[07:15:37] <ciri> The roll of the dice picks: yes.
[07:15:47] <poutine> did your assburgers cause you to type that in a rage?
[07:15:56] <Subsentient> poutine: Who said violence? Hit ice crush and you get reasonable cubes. The dust is the milk, the chunks are the cereal.
[07:16:27] * arti scans Subsentient with an ekgmeter
[07:16:40] <NCommander> Subsentient, you haven't done anything to piss me off, or anything I would use the banhammer unless I'm drastically missing something
[07:17:15] <poutine> NCommander, Can you answer some questions about recent allegations into your misappropriation of SN funds?
[07:17:20] <Subsentient> NCommander: I didn't get banned from the other place either. I wasn't well liked and multiple people finally came out and told me so, after a week and a half of deception and me knowing something was wrong.
[07:17:34] <arti> after reviewing the record, i clearly see where things went wrong here
[07:17:37] <Lagg> Subsentient: Regardless of mental disorder or lack thereof. What in the hell makes you think that because you got banned in a forum that in all likelihood no one here has ever touched you are also disliked here or otherwise in any kind of danger of being banned. That's just silly.
[07:18:01] <Subsentient> Lagg: I was picking up the early stages of the same shit I got there.
[07:18:28] <Lagg> If someone has a problem with you in a site populated by the type of people who used to be at slashdot they will *not* sugarcoat if they have a problem with you
[07:18:37] <arti> maybe ask 4chan
[07:18:40] * NCommander really doesn't get what's going on, is going AFK
[07:18:48] <NCommander> All I know is I need more sleep
[07:19:00] <arti> :D
[07:19:05] <arti> go curl up with your security bear
[07:19:08] <poutine> Subsentient's Spergin' Levels: [8============D~~~~~~* ] 73%
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[07:19:44] <Subsentient> Lagg: I was in with the greatest neckbeards of all time, they were too cowardly to come out and tell me. They couldn't just tell me they didn't want me around, they had to sneak around in IRC when I was d/c and gossip.
[07:19:46] * arti pets Subsentient
[07:19:50] <Subsentient> Like fucking old ladies.
[07:19:54] <arti> jesus you need a hug
[07:20:16] <Lagg> Like poutine for example, but this is really just his way of telling you that he is attracted to you. He has problems being emotionally open you see.
[07:20:51] <Lagg> Let him down easily though for I fear he is emotionally compromised
[07:21:05] <Subsentient> I'm going to be nicer to Ethanol Fueled and poutine from now on. I mean, ethanol is generally a nice guy who gets drunk too much. Poutine I give him the pity to spite him because that's what I want least, pity.
[07:21:49] <Lagg> I like poutine because his nickname TURNS ME ON.
[07:21:57] <Subsentient> lollllll
[07:22:39] <Lagg> Only way to get into my pants faster is to call yourself nutella.
[07:23:13] <chromas> Is gnutella alright?
[07:23:13] <Subsentient> So you also enjoy smothering your genitals in peanut butter and running down the street naked, screaming?>
[07:23:42] <chromas> Hazel nut butter. Any kind of nut butter
[07:23:55] <arti> hazelnut is going to be a precious commodity this year
[07:24:10] <arti> :D
[07:24:11] <Subsentient> Yeah the whole thick skin thing never works with me. I can't just ignore it when someone has a problem with me. It hurts, bad. I can't do anything about it, I've tried.
[07:24:11] <chromas> Oh?
[07:24:15] <chromas> Oh
[07:24:22] <arti> yeah, like 85% of it comes from turkey
[07:24:36] <arti> they've had a crap crop this year due to hail
[07:24:50] <arti> expect to pay more
[07:25:02] <arti> maybe switch to jif for the peanut butter trick?
[07:25:19] <chromas> Mmm .gif
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[07:25:34] * aqu4 hugs Subsentient
[07:25:40] <Subsentient> At least my bot loves me.
[07:25:57] * Subsentient afk
[07:26:00] <Lagg> I only do that on thursdays and when there is immediate payoff. Like when poutine is visiting. And let me tell you secret Subsentient, rejection is uncomfortable for everyone. But the worst thing you can do is assume that rejection carries over to people who aren't even vaguely involved and then act on that assumption until you piss them off too.
[07:27:30] <Lagg> At best you'll creep them out and make them concerned for no good reason and at worst you'll get yourself banned from there too for going "full retard" as it were.
[07:29:12] <chromas> Although you should note that all the people who've left here did so on their own
[07:29:32] <arti> we're staying pretty steady
[07:29:54] <Lagg> In this kind of community even people that respect each other perfectly well are belligerent to one another. That just comes with the territory. If you start seeing hidden messages in that you're going to see them everywhere and eventually make them really start getting annoyed.
[07:30:02] <chromas> People like 400TB LEDs and combatserver
[07:32:25] <Subsentient> I need to finish the cat food, but no, I wasn't seeing hidden messages and I know that people act like dicks to each other, that's fine. Just when people wish I would leave, I want to be fucking TOLD so.
[07:33:01] <Subsentient> The reason I carried it over was that I saw the same kind of mistakes by me, the same kind of overbearing nature coming out, and the same responses that usually end up getting me banned or asked to leave.
[07:33:24] <Lagg> Like I said, of all places I seriously doubt people are going to hold back if they want you to go away here.
[07:35:15] <Subsentient> Whatever. I need to go mix pumpkin into my cat's food.
[07:35:28] <Subsentient> Thanks though.
[07:35:41] <arti> yeah, whatever to you too
[07:35:46] <Subsentient> I still think you are on the wrong track however
[07:35:58] <Subsentient> But I appreciate the time to write it.
[07:36:00] <Subsentient> :^)
[07:37:20] <Konomi> two things are certain in life
[07:37:20] <Konomi> taxes
[07:37:26] <arti> and cat breath
[07:37:32] <Konomi> and debian testing getting a freaking cupsd update every week at least
[07:44:24] <crutchy> maccas_chips++
[07:44:24] <Bender> karma - maccas_chips: 1
[07:45:13] <crutchy> ~sed off
[07:45:13] <exec> sed disabled for 10#Soylent
[07:45:31] <crutchy> no SedBot?
[07:46:56] <crutchy> how is everyone?
[07:47:07] <crutchy> wow looks like i missed a lot
[07:47:37] <crutchy> ~summarize
[07:47:52] <crutchy> <exec> summary of today's discussion so far: pants
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[07:50:26] <chromas> Good summary
[07:51:28] <arti> bout sums it up
[07:53:34] <ar> crutchy: how does that work?
[07:54:00] <chromas> The blood of orphans
[07:54:22] <arti> pretty sure its a gag
[07:55:37] <crutchy> arti, it's a compricated algomorithm, with lots of threads
[07:56:08] <arti> you sound like me at my day gig
[07:56:18] <arti> "but you're doing print work?!?!"
[07:56:29] <crutchy> can't have pants without threads
[07:58:14] <arti> heyooo
[07:59:36] <crutchy> ar, you need to eject brain to understand my sense of humor
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[08:09:45] <arti> konomi: status report on bot
[08:10:09] <arti> we're amassing our armies outside of the system
[08:10:50] <crutchy> yes. prepare to launch the attack against the evil empire of... pants
[08:11:52] * chromas thinks killing Thorax Crunch in Skate 3 is impossibru
[08:12:19] <crutchy> does that mean you're running over grannies?
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[08:15:36] <chromas> Nah, break your bones and stuff jumping off a crane
[08:20:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ballmer Quits Microsoft Board to Spend More Time With His NBA Team - http://sylnt.us - and-nothing-of-value-was-lost
[08:22:39] <chromas> Nothing of value? What about the sports team?
[08:23:18] <chromas> Ballmer: s/helmets/tiles/
[08:23:27] <crutchy> i think it was lost when ballmer bought it
[08:23:37] <chromas> Oh wait a minute
[08:23:59] <chromas> That's it! Be wants to be surrounded by other people who need to wear helmets
[08:24:33] * crutchy offers crayons (only a little bit chewed)
[08:24:58] * Subsentient eats crutchy's crayons and burps a waxy odor
[08:25:29] <crutchy> i swear they were only up my butt for a few minutes
[08:25:37] * Subsentient pukes on crutchy
[08:26:03] <aqu4> RAINBOW PUKE!!!! YAYYYYY
[08:26:20] <crutchy> ~rainbow PUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE!!!
[08:26:21] <exec> 00,12P00,02U00,06U00,04U00,07U00,08U00,09U00,12U00,02U00,06U00,04U00,07U00,08U00,09U00,12K00,02E00,06!00,04!00,07!
[08:26:37] <crutchy> something is wrong with them colors
[08:26:50] <crutchy> *those
[08:27:23] <crutchy> i kinda thought FoobarBazbot might have brought SedBot back to life
[08:28:06] * Subsentient sits down at Piano and starts playing Perpetuum Mobile
[08:28:40] <crutchy> ~last xlefay
[08:28:48] <Subsentient> $seen xlefay
[08:28:48] <aqu4> I last saw xlefay at 2014-08-11 17:38:20 UTC in #soylent. Their most recent message is "Just can't be as active on IRC as I used to be, got actual stuff to do nowadays :("
[08:28:56] <exec> last privmsg for xlefay in #soylent: [2014-08-11 17:39:25] Just can't be as active on IRC as I used to be, got actual stuff to do nowadays :(
[08:29:26] <chromas> FoobarBazbot sits and laughs like a deity. "I could help, but why? Fuck it. Squirming turns me on"
[08:29:56] <crutchy> lol
[08:30:16] <crutchy> regex deity
[08:30:30] * Subsentient pukes on regex
[08:30:32] <crutchy> ~sed on
[08:30:33] <exec> sed enabled for 10#Soylent
[08:30:34] <chromas> He rubs his left hand in a circle on his chest, slowly spiraling downward
[08:30:44] <chromas> Pants-- he says
[08:30:44] <Bender> karma - pants: 0
[08:33:02] <crutchy> ~count xlefay
[08:33:14] <exec> privmsg count for xlefay in #soylent: 7551
[08:33:26] <crutchy> ~find-first pants
[08:33:37] <exec> first privmsg containing "pants" in #soylent: [2014-03-07 06:15:30] <Khyber> Let's make that 6 guys *unzips pants*
[08:33:47] <crutchy> ooook
[08:34:02] <arti> any reason you're saving that comment crutchy
[08:34:52] <crutchy> loggie did. dirty bot
[08:35:28] <crutchy> my bot is too unreliable to log stuff
[08:37:10] <crutchy> ~count aqu4
[08:37:21] <exec> privmsg count for aqu4 in #soylent: 666
[08:37:31] <crutchy> i knew it!
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[08:38:09] <chromas> ~logctl -xbpL pants
[08:39:10] <crutchy> /logctl XL pants
[08:41:58] <crutchy> ~find-last konomi
[08:42:10] <exec> last privmsg containing "konomi" in #soylent: [2014-08-20 08:09:45] <arti> konomi: status report on bot
[08:42:20] <crutchy> oh yeah
[08:43:01] <crutchy> ~find-first frosty piss
[08:43:12] <exec> first privmsg containing "frosty piss" in #soylent: [2014-04-21 15:20:33] <crutchy> we haven't had a frosty piss awakening here yet
[08:43:33] <crutchy> ew. who's that nutjob?
[08:46:01] <crutchy> !todo make freepascal version of sn log parser
[08:46:02] <Bender> todo item 3 added
[08:49:59] <chromas> Ask Soylent: best linux desktop?
[08:50:28] <crutchy> debian++
[08:50:28] <Bender> karma - debian: 14
[08:51:30] <chromas> s/p/p gui/
[08:51:30] <exec> <chromas> Ask Soylent: best linux desktop gui?
[08:54:14] <chromas> Gooey in visual basic
[08:56:12] <crutchy> is gnome2 still an option?
[08:56:42] * crutchy is using gnome3 fallback. still semi-usable
[08:57:13] <crutchy> panels aren't as good as they used to be
[08:58:12] <crutchy> i think i have xfce on my desktop, but i haven't switched on my desktop for months so i can't remeember
[08:58:57] <chromas> Was thinking of cinnamon. Both it and mate seem to lack configurability
[08:59:34] <crutchy> xlefay showed me a screen cap of a nice tiling wm. cant remember the name though
[08:59:42] <chromas> Or that. Kind of like e except it's config is awkward and it still crashes a lot
[09:00:08] * crutchy opens sagasu
[09:00:24] <arti> gnome 2 wasn't that what mate was all about?
[09:00:32] <chromas> There's about forty billion tiling wms
[09:00:37] <chromas> Yeah
[09:00:55] <chromas> Didn't care for gnome after 1
[09:01:08] <arti> i went more of the kde route
[09:01:10] <chromas> Not that I used it much
[09:01:32] <chromas> Same. It was the default when I started linuxing
[09:01:40] <chromas> Mandrake
[09:02:35] <crutchy> i3 is the tiling wm that xlefay was testing
[09:03:06] * chromas webs it
[09:04:07] <chromas> Dexter in the screenshot
[09:04:07] <arti> !g i3 window manager
[09:04:08] <ciri> 228,000 results | i3 - improved tiling wm @ http://i3wm.org | Images for i3 window manager | i3 (window manager) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia @ http://en.wikipedia.org(window_manager) | i3 - ArchWiki @ https://wiki.archlinux.org | i3 Window Manager Overview - YouTube @ http://www.youtube.com
[09:04:43] <arti> seems like something Subsentient would exist with
[09:05:06] * chromas wants a wm full of tabs too, like kde can do but buggily
[09:05:27] <chromas> -but
[09:05:28] <arti> i'm going to read a bit, i'll check back on you guys later
[09:05:37] <Subsentient> arti: I use xfce.
[09:05:40] * arti salutes and makes pizza motions to fridge
[09:05:51] <chromas> Pizza++
[09:05:51] <Bender> karma - pizza: 10
[09:05:57] <arti> Subsentient++
[09:05:57] <Bender> karma - subsentient: 7
[09:08:06] <chromas> I used xfce for a while. Don't recall why I went back to kde
[09:12:38] <crutchy> xfce is better than it used to be (i used to have to open a root shell to shut down)
[09:13:03] <crutchy> debian jessie will be xfce when stable
[09:13:08] <crutchy> debian++
[09:13:08] <Bender> karma - debian: 15
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[10:10:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:10:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 636
[10:11:33] <chromas> Archlinux++
[10:11:33] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 12
[10:12:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> archlinux++
[10:12:36] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 13
[10:13:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> thing when we go making a new dev vm ima make an arch version
[10:14:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> see how long it takes before systemd breaks something
[10:15:24] <chromas> Lol
[10:15:24] <ciri> HEY! don't laugh at me
[10:15:53] <chromas> Just installed to another hdd. Looking at DEs now
[10:17:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine's eclectic
[10:17:45] <chromas> Dosshell?
[10:18:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> mix of lxde/xfce/mate/not sure what else
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[10:18:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> base is openbox though
[10:19:32] <crutchy> natalie portman has openbox
[10:20:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> use the mate file manager(caja), xfdesktop, and most of the rest is lxde
[10:20:47] <chromas> Eclectic++
[10:20:47] <Bender> karma - eclectic: 1
[10:21:11] <crutchy> xtreegold++
[10:21:11] <Bender> karma - xtreegold: 1
[10:21:37] <chromas> ~define xtreegold
[10:21:42] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Xtreegold: XTree was a file manager software originally designed for use under DOS. It was published by Underwear Systems (later Executive Systems) and first released on 1 April 1985, and became highly popular.[...
[10:22:11] <crutchy> ooh wikipedia actually works :/
[10:22:13] <SirFinkus> I'd use natalie portman's mate file manager
[10:22:38] <crutchy> mate on openbox?
[10:22:50] <SirFinkus> lol, didn't even think of that
[10:23:03] <SirFinkus> I'd use mate on her openbox
[10:23:36] <Konomi> ohh 10 moderator points I have powerrrr
[10:24:31] <Lagg> TheMightyBuzzard: I love how those icons for the feeds came out but I notice that somehow the RSS icon is one vertical pixel off and it's like a millipede crawled into my ear and is chewing on my brain
[10:24:35] <chromas> Ah oh
[10:25:02] <Lagg> I actually think it might be a visual illusion because I'm looking at them side by side and the font size is throwing me off.
[10:25:16] <SirFinkus> remember to downvote posts you don't agree with
[10:25:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> Lagg, heh. Yeah I noticed that too.
[10:25:50] <Lagg> Do you think it's bad enough to be fixed
[10:26:32] <crutchy> redo the rss one
[10:26:35] <crutchy> atom is ok
[10:26:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> Lagg, anything is bad enough to be fixed but probably not in a point release unless we have another bug crop up.
[10:27:23] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, want me to create one in a PR?
[10:27:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, what, a bug?
[10:27:35] <Lagg> True enough, will fix it and send pull request.
[10:27:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheers
[10:27:53] <crutchy> Lagg, include said bug in PR
[10:28:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> this round of updates like that n the blockquotes only got a PR because of some bug or other that needed patched.
[10:28:41] <crutchy> patch++
[10:28:41] <Bender> karma - patch: 1
[10:28:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> otherwise pj is justifiably askeert of updating live.
[10:28:52] <crutchy> openbox++
[10:28:52] <Bender> karma - openbox: 1
[10:29:14] <crutchy> for the name
[10:29:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> me, i say deploy early and deploy often
[10:29:40] <Lagg> crutchy: Which bug?
[10:29:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> live schmive
[10:30:11] <crutchy> testing be damned! we need barracks, else where will our soldiers rest their mighty lances?!
[10:31:32] * juggs fades into existence
[10:32:38] <crutchy> ^that would be a funky client feature
[10:33:20] <crutchy> along with pornographic avatars
[10:33:59] <crutchy> natalie portman's openbox
[10:34:05] * juggs drinks tea and wonders just wtf happened to tuesday :/
[10:34:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, NC has some ideas on changing journals to be more blog-like. You may yet get your pornographic avatars.
[10:34:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, it caught on fire and burned down
[10:34:43] <Lagg> TheMightyBuzzard: Hrm, would appear that my changes somehow triggered a regression. Damned TTK
[10:34:50] <juggs> ahh that explains the smell
[10:34:50] <crutchy> at work i thought it was tuesday, and until i was reminded that it was wednesday i thought i was getting on top of things :/
[10:35:26] <Lagg> Prime example of why sites written in perl shouldn't be, especially when you have perl in what is essentially a preprocessor language
[10:35:39] <crutchy> phpoo++
[10:35:39] <Bender> karma - phpoo: 1
[10:35:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> Lagg, yeah there was something screwy about the changes and pj had to go back in and revert to the static feeds.
[10:36:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> including a logtoken=blah GET variable when entirely unnecessary i believe it was.
[10:36:37] <Lagg> Oh, so it wasn't my changes specifically that caused it but just something that was there anyway from when you added the dynamic feeds?
[10:36:45] <crutchy> http://www.phpcompiler.org
[10:36:46] <monopoly> ^ 03phc -- the open source PHP compiler
[10:36:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's the code though not your... yeah.
[10:36:49] <Lagg> The hunks are right around where I added stuff
[10:36:58] <Lagg> Just silly coincidence then, that's good
[10:36:58] <crutchy> ^looks interesting
[10:37:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll get the dynamic feeds working on dev after i get back from the airport later today most likely.
[10:38:22] <Lagg> So I tried to upload the icon via github's webterface and apparently you can't do binary files
[10:38:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird
[10:38:39] <Lagg> Github themselves advertised the ever loving shit out of this "web only workflow" nonsense and I can't even do that :|
[10:39:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> man i'd go nuts trying to do web only
[10:39:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> did ONE patch like that then made myself a local repo on the grounds of learning git was easier than using the web interface.
[10:39:55] <Lagg> Yeah. I only do it when it's one trivial change for one file.
[10:40:09] <Lagg> I can't even get comfortable with a GUI for git let alone webterface
[10:40:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[10:42:17] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders
[10:44:40] <Lagg> Okay, pull request sent. Don't let the load error fool you though, is just more github server issues. It should be viewable via that "View" link
[10:50:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh, stupid github is being slow again
[10:55:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> Lagg, we'll be working on a new dev vm soon if you're interested. be easier to test things out than waiting on merges and deploys to dev
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[10:59:23] <Lagg> TheMightyBuzzard: Would be good, maybe I could actually get to the meat of the code.
[11:00:53] <crutchy> just make sure you wear full body armor
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[11:41:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - White House Meets with Big Business on Immigration - http://sylnt.us - you-can't-handle-the-truth
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[12:06:48] <n1> duck++
[12:06:48] <Bender> karma - duck: 1
[12:06:55] <n1> shocking.
[12:07:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:07:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 637
[12:07:38] <n1> does the karma counter read spaces? or does one have to _
[12:07:41] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:07:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 638
[12:07:55] <crutchy> [duck duck goose]++
[12:07:55] <Bender> karma - [duck duck goose]: 1
[12:07:59] <n1> tea++
[12:07:59] <Bender> karma - tea: 27
[12:08:24] <n1> chai latte++
[12:08:28] <n1> psh
[12:08:45] <crutchy> (konomi's pyjamas]++
[12:08:49] <crutchy> psh
[12:08:53] <n1> chai_latte++
[12:08:53] <Bender> karma - chai_latte: 1
[12:08:53] <crutchy> (konomi's pyjamas)++
[12:08:53] <Bender> karma - (konomi's pyjamas): 1
[12:09:36] <n1> now back to acquiring hoisin duck pancakes for breakfast
[12:10:14] <crutchy> back to phpoo for me
[12:10:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> one of these days, crutchy, we will bring you over to the dark side and have you coding perl.
[12:11:13] <crutchy> maybe. i've already done the hello world thing
[12:11:28] <crutchy> exec can even run perl scripts
[12:11:46] <crutchy> ^might be a good way to get into it
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[12:17:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Bytram
[12:17:18] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: g'morning!
[12:17:20] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:17:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 639
[12:17:24] <Bytram> how's things?
[12:17:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> seen the shiny new blockquotes yet?
[12:17:35] <Bytram> nod nod nice nice!
[12:17:44] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[12:17:44] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 43
[12:17:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp++
[12:17:54] <Bender> karma - mrcoolbp: 23
[12:17:55] <Bytram> oops! Now you don't know themeaning of life....
[12:18:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72++ too
[12:18:00] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 56
[12:18:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard--
[12:18:00] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 42
[12:18:06] <Bytram> fixed it! ;)
[12:18:10] <Bytram> paulej72++
[12:18:11] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 57
[12:18:13] <Bytram> mrcoolbp++
[12:18:13] <Bender> karma - mrcoolbp: 24
[12:18:33] <Bytram> f it
[12:18:36] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[12:18:36] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 43
[12:18:37] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[12:18:37] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 44
[12:18:38] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[12:18:39] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 45
[12:18:56] <Bytram> anyway, was wondering what happened with the iso-8859-1 thing?
[12:19:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, pj fixed that a ways back.
[12:19:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> was just the vhost config
[12:19:34] <Bytram> on apache?
[12:19:43] <paulej72> yes
[12:19:44] * Bytram does not know where vhost 'lives'
[12:19:50] <Bytram> paulej72: g'mroning!
[12:19:54] <Bytram> so, we are all better?
[12:19:59] <paulej72> morning
[12:20:11] <Bytram> in that case, you can prolly update: https://github.com
[12:20:12] <monopoly> ^ 03UTF-8 upgrade - still getting iso-8859-1 in headers · Issue #285 · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub
[12:20:25] <Bytram> paulej72++
[12:20:25] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 58
[12:20:30] <crutchy> morning
[12:20:43] <Bytram> crutchy: morning!
[12:20:46] <Bytram> ~weather crutchy
[12:21:12] <Bytram> looks like you don't have any weather today... whacha gonna do?
[12:21:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, oh ya. forgot about that
[12:21:23] -!- exec [exec!~exec@709-27-2-01.cust.aussiebb.net] has joined #Soylent
[12:21:27] * Bytram suggests staying indoors.
[12:21:30] <Bytram> ~weather crutchy
[12:22:11] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: np
[12:22:15] <crutchy> 2014-08-20 23:21:31 > Fatal error: Call to undefined function process_weather2() in /nas/server/git/exec-irc-bot/scripts/weather.php on line 39
[12:22:17] <crutchy> oops
[12:22:30] <Bytram> exec--
[12:22:30] <Bender> karma - exec: 6
[12:22:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> you broke it!
[12:22:48] <crutchy> ~weather uranus
[12:22:54] <exec> weather for 10Kodiak, AK US at 2014-08-19 23:29:00 (UTC) ~ 774 mins ago: temp: 1017.8°C (64°F), dp: 108.1°C (46.5°F), press: 101013.9 mb (+0.1 mb/6 mins), humid: 1052%, wind: 108 km/h (5 mph) @ 10126°
[12:23:15] * Bytram notices that is from over 6 hrs ago.
[12:23:32] <crutchy> yeah. poor weather service on uranus
[12:23:41] <Bytram> ~weather London
[12:23:46] <exec> weather for 10London, UK at 12:47 pm (BST) ~ 36 mins ago: temp: 1016.1°C (61°F), dp: 106.2°C (43.2°F), press: 101019.9 mb (0 mb/18 mins), humid: 1052%, wind: 1016 km/h (10 mph) @ 10359°
[12:24:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather TheMightyBuzzard
[12:24:07] <exec> weather for 10Ada, Ada Municipal Airport, OK, United States at 6:54 am (CDT) ~ 30 mins ago: temp: 1025°C (77°F), dp: 1021°C (69.8°F), press: 101013.6 mb (+0.3 mb/18 mins), humid: 1078%, wind: 1012.8 km/h (8 mph) @ 10180°
[12:24:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> 77F and the sun is barely up.
[12:24:26] <paulej72> ok hading to work bbs
[12:24:30] <Bytram> 'nother hot one for the bird
[12:24:31] * TheMightyBuzzard waves
[12:24:43] <Bytram> paulej72: cya !
[12:24:46] <crutchy> cheers paulej72
[12:24:53] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[12:24:57] <exec> weather for 10Boston, MA US at 7:54 am (EDT) ~ 30 mins ago: temp: 1020°C (68°F), dp: 1015°C (59°F), press: 101016.2 mb (+0.1 mb/18 mins), humid: 1072%, wind: 100 km/h (0 mph) @ 10319°
[12:24:59] <crutchy> bytram, working on a help script
[12:25:04] <crutchy> that looks up the wiki
[12:25:17] <Bytram> hmmm...
[12:25:28] <Bytram> help exists on the wiki?
[12:25:57] * Bytram would think it more stabllto have the help *in* exec, and dump it *to* wiki.
[12:26:05] <crutchy> it works, but i'm trying to improve the format/parsing/layout stuff
[12:26:13] <crutchy> ~help weather
[12:26:16] <exec> Syntax: ~weather location Examples: ~weather JFK ~weather vostok, aq ~weather crutchy Related commands: ~weather-add ~time-add Developers: crutchy Sources: https://github.com https://github.com
[12:26:27] <Bytram> ~help
[12:26:27] <exec> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[12:26:33] <crutchy> comes from http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[12:26:34] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03IRC:exec aliases: IRC:exec
[12:27:07] <crutchy> i sorta like the wiki for documenting
[12:27:36] <crutchy> i think github has a wiki feature too. if exec ever outgrows soylent (doubt it) i might move to gh
[12:27:37] <Bytram> for the local application, makes sense; but, as a general tool that others could use, complicates matters a bit.
[12:27:56] <crutchy> moar complexity!
[12:27:56] <Bytram> if you know what I mean?
[12:28:00] <crutchy> :p
[12:28:07] <crutchy> yup i do
[12:28:19] <crutchy> some scripts are soylent-specific
[12:28:32] <crutchy> not very useful for non-soylentils
[12:29:08] <Bytram> assimilate 'em!
[12:29:38] <crutchy> eventually i might dump the wiki content to a local file or github
[12:31:01] <crutchy> i only troll you guys atm anyway. i'm not on freenode or anywhere else
[12:31:40] <crutchy> did have a squiz a while back at freenode, but didn't really get into it
[12:35:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, you need to write a slash api in php
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[12:37:45] <Lagg> Please no, write it in python crutchy. You know you want to
[12:39:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Woods
[12:39:03] <chromas> Python++
[12:39:03] <Bender> karma - python: 0
[12:39:10] <Bytram> hey guys, time to get ready for the day job... back in a bit.
[12:39:13] <Lagg> Now I'm "butthurt crazy" in addition to misanthropic crazy. http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:14] <monopoly> ^ 04SN comment by Lagg (105)
[12:39:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> (significant whitespace)--
[12:39:15] <Bender> karma - (significant whitespace): -1
[12:39:16] Bytram is now known as Bytram|afk
[12:39:28] <Lagg> I want my crazy badge goddamnit
[12:39:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> adios, By
[12:39:37] * chromas sees what you did there, tmb
[12:39:39] <Bytram|afk> (insignificant whitespace)++
[12:39:39] <Bender> karma - (insignificant whitespace): 1
[12:39:42] <Bytram|afk> (insignificant whitespace)++
[12:39:42] <Bender> karma - (insignificant whitespace): 2
[12:40:06] <chromas> The only significance is that it's consistent
[12:40:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> Lagg, ya, i'm apparently just a troll though.
[12:40:47] <chromas> If you put three spaces on one line then you need three for the rest of the block
[12:41:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> woah, unexpected rain
[12:41:35] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, i think i out-troll you here in irc :p
[12:41:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, ya. i don't like it when programming languages tell me what to do.
[12:41:58] <chromas> Like semicolons and stuff?
[12:42:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> if i want to make the whole thing a one liner, i should be able to.
[12:42:19] <Lagg> If you two are trolls I'm a mass murderer
[12:42:24] <chromas> Basic++
[12:42:24] <Bender> karma - basic: 1
[12:42:48] <Lagg> and if you /are/ then I've nary seen such gentle trolling
[12:43:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i mostly don't get my ranty on in irc.
[12:43:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> but i also don't troll. i just say shat the majority disagree vehemently with.
[12:43:43] <crutchy> ~count TheMightyBuzzard
[12:43:54] <Lagg> You know for some reason I'd rather be called crazy than a troll.
[12:43:54] <exec> privmsg count for TheMightyBuzzard in #soylent: 8964
[12:43:59] <chromas> cls:?"basic++":input,a$
[12:44:08] <crutchy> hmm should add something about how many days that's over
[12:44:13] <Lagg> So I guess I can't complain about this growing reputation
[12:44:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, your sorting algorithm are teh slow
[12:44:31] <chromas> Unicode graphs, crutchy
[12:44:43] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, yeah i know. it downloads today's log every call
[12:44:46] <crutchy> !todo
[12:44:46] <Bender> todo for crutchy: 1) look up regex character classes 2) learn more about eggdrop 3) make freepascal version of sn log parser
[12:44:51] <crutchy> ^note 3
[12:44:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> ouch
[12:45:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo
[12:45:01] <Bender> todo for themightybuzzard: 1) get m2 working 2) argue for the death of Overrated and Underrated 3) IDN support 4) utf8mb4 upgrade 5) queued articles on the submissions page discussion 6) discuss allowing extra html formatting tags in comments
[12:45:12] <Lagg> 1 and 2 I can understand but why would you even 3 crutchy
[12:45:18] <Lagg> That's valuable C and python learning time
[12:45:35] <crutchy> lol
[12:45:35] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
[12:45:40] <crutchy> pascal++
[12:45:40] <Bender> karma - pascal: 13
[12:45:58] <chromas> Pascal++
[12:45:58] <Bender> karma - pascal: 14
[12:46:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> you really should just write it in assembly
[12:46:11] <Lagg> ciri: So help me I'm going to add a trigger to my nifty new client that calls you a stupid bot every time you do that
[12:46:37] <crutchy> i think subsentient already beat you to that idea
[12:46:55] <Lagg> Then why is it not being called a stupid bot!
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[12:47:15] <crutchy> don't think its implemented yet
[12:47:29] <Lagg> Then he didn't beat me to it now did he
[12:47:31] <crutchy> ciri is the ultimate troll
[12:47:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. think i'm going to implement an array of "stfu, ciri" "die in a fire, ciri" and "eat shit and die, ciri" and play one of them every time it speaks.
[12:47:37] <crutchy> just to the idea
[12:48:01] <crutchy> isn't that a form of bot sex TheMightyBuzzard
[12:48:03] <crutchy> ?
[12:48:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, that sounds like there'd be some fun involved
[12:48:34] * chromas gives ciri a rusty trombone
[12:48:37] <Lagg> I've had that idea since before I even joined the freenode IRC channel and before this bot existed and even before soylentnews existed
[12:48:55] <Lagg> That bot is just that much of a pest that its aura of annoyance transcended time
[12:48:58] <crutchy> you knew ciri before soylent existed? :p
[12:49:01] <crutchy> lol
[12:49:32] <Lagg> To be serious though this is actually a regular thing I did a few years back
[12:49:41] <crutchy> ~define rusty trombone
[12:49:46] <crutchy> do i wanna know
[12:49:49] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Rusty_trombone: Rusty trombone is a sexual act in which a man stands with his knees and back slightly bent, with feet at least shoulder width apart to expose his anus.[1] The other partner typically kneels behind the...
[12:50:02] <crutchy> wtf? urbandictionary?
[12:50:07] <chromas> Underscore?
[12:50:08] <Lagg> What I'd do is run this client: http://tools.suckless.org
[12:50:10] <monopoly> ^ 03ii | suckless.org tools
[12:50:23] <Bytram|afk> TheMightyBuzzard: quick thought: instead of moderation with +1 or -1, how 'bout moderating with what you think the comment ultimately should be rated at?
[12:50:35] <Lagg> Write a python script to read the given pipes, then write responses to it based on bots being stupid.
[12:50:36] <crutchy> ii++
[12:50:36] <Bender> karma - ii: 5
[12:50:43] <Bytram|afk> e.g wow! what a great post: "+5" reason "Insightful"
[12:50:43] <crutchy> or there's sic
[12:50:48] <crutchy> sic++
[12:50:48] <Bender> karma - sic: 2
[12:51:09] <Bytram|afk> or, that's good, but not great... "3" "Interesting"
[12:51:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram|afk, +1 Interesting
[12:51:17] <chromas> Lagg: that's what SedBot did
[12:51:24] * Bytram|afk should not have had a "+" in the prior msd
[12:51:29] <crutchy> before it died :(
[12:51:31] <Bytram|afk> s/msd/msg/
[12:51:31] <exec> <Bytram|afk> should not have had a "+" in the prior msg
[12:51:43] <Lagg> Bytram|afk: Should probably be careful about changing the mod system too much or people who were used to slashdot's might be alienated.
[12:51:49] <Bytram|afk> that gets rid of the like/don't-like mods.
[12:51:52] <crutchy> lol
[12:52:09] <crutchy> !grab Lagg
[12:52:09] <Bender> Added quote 230
[12:52:11] <Bytram|afk> don't make it look like something that it isn't.
[12:52:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, we should ADD a separate agree/disagree score
[12:52:16] <chromas> Replace the combo box with sliders
[12:52:29] <crutchy> "people who were used to slashdot's might be alienated"
[12:52:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> that way you can disagree without downmodding.
[12:52:41] <Lagg> Or just make a post saying you disagree :/
[12:52:42] <crutchy> shouldn't that be followed by 'FUCK BETA!'
[12:52:43] <Bytram|afk> TheMightyBuzzard: nod nod
[12:52:43] <crutchy> ?
[12:52:46] <Lagg> Then giving a reason why
[12:52:58] <chromas> People who rated this comment insightful also liked these comments
[12:52:58] <Lagg> You know, like proper discussion...
[12:53:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> Lagg, do both. no reason to limit agree/disagree to moderators or prevent using it and posting as well.
[12:53:18] <Lagg> crutchy: What was funny about my line
[12:53:28] <Bytram|afk> iow, *internally* we look at what it is rated at, currently, compare what the moderator thinks its final score should be, nudge it by one in that direction.
[12:53:34] <crutchy> just the beta implication :p
[12:53:38] <LaminatorX> Of course following up with a reason why you disagree is kind of what comments are for.
[12:53:51] <Bytram|afk> btw, is the staff/board meeting still on for tonight?
[12:53:52] <crutchy> its prolly just my bent sense of humor though
[12:53:55] <Lagg> I wasn't implying anything about beta :/
[12:53:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> LaminatorX, nod nod
[12:54:05] <Bytram|afk> gtg atm; will check in afore I leave.
[12:54:38] <Lagg> It did plenty to alienate people by itself though for sure, but thankfully they didn't screw up the mod system before I stopped visiting. But maybe that's changed.
[12:55:27] <Lagg> In fact it probably did since DICE seems single mindedly focused on destroying what was left of slashdot and making it some kind of fixed width business blag or something. Which is why I say you should be careful in how you approach changes to how it's implemented here.
[12:55:50] <crutchy> ~define-source-param www.urbandictionary.com order -1
[12:55:51] <exec> param "order" for source "www.urbandictionary.com" updated with "1" (after reoder)
[12:56:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> right now i'm thinking remove under/overrated entirely. add a separate agree/disagree score. add/remove mod reasons after a nice argue about each one. and make m2 happen.
[12:56:37] <LaminatorX> There's a staff meeting tonight?
[12:56:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> LaminatorX, yep
[12:56:50] <crutchy> will there be a "wtf?!" mod?
[12:57:18] <crutchy> or a "fuck me over a barstool sideways tyrone!" mod?
[12:57:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, probably not. it'd turn into a -1 Disagree real quick.
[12:58:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i plan on arguing for coming down HARD on bad downmods. like have them carry 10x as much meaning as a good upmod.
[12:58:30] <LaminatorX> What time is the meeting. There's nothing in the topic on #staff and I haven't noticed an email about it.
[12:58:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> check the front page, i forget.
[12:59:02] <crutchy> LaminatorX, http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[12:59:03] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03Issues to Be Raised at the Next Board Meeting: If there is an issue that you would like to be raised at the next Board meeting, please include it in the list below. The list will be cleared following each meeting. If you feel that your issue was not adequately addressed at the meetin...
[12:59:16] <crutchy> hmm
[12:59:17] <crutchy> The next general staff and board meeting for the site will be on Wednesday, August 20th, at 7PM EDT (11PM UTC) in #staff on our IRC network. All are welcome to attend.
[13:00:09] <crutchy> should make an alias for that :p
[13:00:29] <LaminatorX> Ah. That's what I get for always working from admin.pl instead of the main page.
[13:02:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> LaminatorX, nod nod. gotta actually read the site too or you lose touch.
[13:03:20] <crutchy> ~rehash
[13:03:21] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (57 aliases)
[13:03:25] <crutchy> ~staff
[13:03:28] <exec> Time: To Be Confirmed Place: irc.sylnt.us:6667/6697#staff Chair: To Be Confirmed From the "Site News" slashbox on http://soylentnews.org: The next general staff and board meeting for the site will be on Wednesday, August 20th, at 7PM EDT (11PM UTC) in #staff on our IRC network. All are welcome to attend.
[13:03:51] <crutchy> hmm. bit wordy :/
[13:05:31] <chromas> "You are cordially invited..."
[13:06:11] <chromas> Needs gold text, too
[13:06:34] <n1> haha
[13:07:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, just make an alias that slurps the site news slashbox and regurgitates it.
[13:08:08] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard++ that's a better idea
[13:08:08] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 46
[13:08:24] <crutchy> for chromas:
[13:08:26] <crutchy> ~staff
[13:08:30] <exec> 08Time: To Be Confirmed Place: irc.sylnt.us:6667/6697#staff Chair: To Be Confirmed From the "Site News" slashbox on http://soylentnews.org: The next general staff and board meeting for the site will be on Wednesday, August 20th, at 7PM EDT (11PM UTC) in #staff on our IRC network. All are welcome to attend.
[13:08:54] <chromas> Guild++
[13:08:54] <Bender> karma - guild: 1
[13:09:58] <chromas> ~staph
[13:10:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~staves
[13:11:40] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: s/t/h/
[13:11:40] <exec> <chromas> <TheMightyBuzzard> ~shaves
[13:12:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, keep those away from me. i got another 6-9 months before this beard hits zz top levels
[13:13:06] <chromas> exec: s/ha/la/
[13:13:06] <exec> <chromas> <exec> <chromas> <TheMightyBuzzard> ~slaves
[13:13:23] <chromas> Beards++
[13:13:23] <Bender> karma - beards: 2
[13:13:35] <chromas> Beards++
[13:13:35] <Bender> karma - beards: 3
[13:13:36] <chromas> Beards++
[13:13:36] <Bender> karma - beards: 4
[13:14:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> beards++
[13:14:01] <Bender> karma - beards: 5
[13:14:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> (zz top)++
[13:14:42] <Bender> karma - (zz top): 1
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[13:16:36] <crutchy> the slashbox isn't much better
[13:16:44] <crutchy> ~staff
[13:16:46] <exec> We deployed some changes today to fix some bugs, and added some new features that just happened to get merged recently. Can you spot the changes? The next general staff and board meeting for the site will be on Wednesday, August 20th, at 7PM EDT (11PM UTC) in #staff on our IRC network. All are w...
[13:17:20] <chromas> exec: s/the changes/Waldo/
[13:17:20] <exec> <chromas> <exec> We deployed some changes today to fix some bugs, and added some new features that just happened to get merged recently. Can you spot Waldo? The next general staff and board meeting for the site will be on Wednesday, August 20th, at 7PM EDT (11PM UTC) in #staff on our IRC network. All are w...
[13:17:52] <crutchy> ooh i almost forgot
[13:20:17] <crutchy> ~staff
[13:22:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Tool Makes Online Personal Data More Transparent - http://sylnt.us - internet-never-forgets
[13:22:49] <Bytram|afk> !uid
[13:22:49] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4642, owned by gardintrapp
[13:23:23] <crutchy> ~staff
[13:23:25] <exec> 08The next general staff and board meeting for the site will be on Wednesday, August 20th, at 7PM EDT (11PM UTC) in #staff on our IRC network. All are welcome to attend.
[13:23:38] <TK> Well it sticks out
[13:24:10] <crutchy> just used some hackery wackery to extract the relevant bit
[13:24:44] <Blackmoore> mornin
[13:24:47] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[13:24:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 640
[13:25:13] <crutchy> it will pick out whatever paragraph in the site news slashbox that contains the word "meeting", with paras separated by <hr>
[13:25:51] <Bytram|afk> ok, gtg. have a great day everyone!
[13:25:58] <Bytram|afk> cya at the mtg tonight. =)
[13:25:59] <crutchy> cya Bytram|afk
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[13:27:51] <crutchy> i'll be at work tomorrow when it gets to 11pm utc
[13:28:07] <crutchy> today :/ that's weird
[13:32:24] <crutchy> ~count xlefay
[13:32:38] <exec> privmsg count for xlefay in #soylent: 7551 over -16293.735706019 days
[13:33:16] <crutchy> ~count xlefay
[13:33:29] <exec> privmsg count for xlefay in #soylent: 7551 over 159 days
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[13:40:17] <Blackmoore> a negitive result?
[13:44:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://github.com
[13:44:29] <monopoly> ^ 03DDNS for subscribers · Issue #294 · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub
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[14:01:06] <crutchy> ~count xlefay
[14:01:17] <exec> privmsg count for xlefay in #soylent: 7551 over 159 days (47 per day avg)
[14:01:38] <crutchy> ~count crutchy
[14:01:50] <exec> privmsg count for crutchy in #soylent: 28763 over 168 days (171 per day avg)
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[14:11:45] <Blackmoore> ~count Blackmoore
[14:11:57] <exec> privmsg count for Blackmoore in #soylent: 0 over 0 days (0 per day avg)
[14:12:30] <crutchy> ???
[14:12:51] <crutchy> ooh trailing space. i'll trim that. /spanks programmer
[14:13:40] <crutchy> hmm i already did trim
[14:13:42] <Blackmoore> i break things :P
[14:16:14] <Blackmoore> which email is it trying to check?
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[14:16:34] <Blackmoore> UH oh.
[14:16:43] <Blackmoore> I'm getting a 503 on the main site
[14:17:11] <mechanicjay> I am not
[14:17:17] <n1> 's ok for me
[14:17:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto
[14:17:22] <n1> i got one 503 yesterday
[14:17:36] <Blackmoore> wtf.
[14:17:41] <mechanicjay> lemme check the front-ends
[14:17:56] * TheMightyBuzzard heads out to the airport
[14:18:25] <Blackmoore> and now it's ok
[14:18:31] <Blackmoore> wtf seriously
[14:18:40] <crutchy> ~count Blackmoore
[14:18:51] <exec> no privmsgs for Blackmoore in #soylent exist
[14:19:53] <crutchy> dunno why that extra space not being trimmed :/
[14:20:30] <crutchy> ~count Blackmoore
[14:20:41] <exec> privmsg count for Blackmoore in #soylent: 3437 over 162 days (21 per day avg)
[14:20:52] <crutchy> ~count Blackmoore
[14:21:02] <exec> no privmsgs for Blackmoore in #soylent exist
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[14:21:21] <crutchy> stupid trim function not trimming :/
[14:21:50] <crutchy> oh fuck. i was trimming the wrong arg :/
[14:22:08] <crutchy> ~count Blackmoore
[14:22:13] <mechanicjay> Blackmoore: if you get a 503, please let me know the URL you were trying to access.
[14:22:19] <exec> privmsg count for Blackmoore in #soylent: 3437 over 162 days (21 per day avg)
[14:22:26] <crutchy> that's a bit better
[14:22:43] <crutchy> ~isup soylentnews.org
[14:22:45] <exec> soylentnews.org: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[14:22:50] <crutchy> ~isup soylentnews.org:443
[14:22:52] <exec> soylentnews.org:443: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[14:51:54] <paulej72> I have been redeploying slash a few times today and last night. Getting some minor bugs fixed. 503s to be expected
[15:00:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google's Driverless Cars Programmed to Break the Speed Limit - http://sylnt.us - avoiding-accidents-is-dangerous-driving
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[15:49:22] <mrcoolbp> .topicappend Tonight: Wednesday, August 20th, at 7PM EDT (11PM UTC) staff/board meeting in #staff
[15:49:22] juggler changed topic of #Soylent to: https://SoylentNews.org | IRC Logs: logs.sylnt.us/ | Wiki: sylnt.us/wiki | Code: sylnt.us/code | Got bugs? sylnt.us/bugs | Get Involved: sylnt.us/getinvolved | Who's Who: sylnt.us/whoswho | Submit Stories: sylnt.us/submit | | Tonight: Wednesday, August 20th, at 7PM EDT (11PM UTC) staff/board meeting in #staff
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[16:21:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Australia's Tax Office Announces it Will Not Treat Bitcoin as Money - http://sylnt.us - not-money-unless-there's-tax-to-collect
[17:00:31] <mrcoolbp> Question: I have a new x64 machine, is it stupid to install an x86 version of photoshop? Should I seek out an x64 version? This seems like one case that would take advantage of x64. Discuss.
[17:09:19] <juggs> Running windows?
[17:09:43] <mrcoolbp> yah
[17:10:10] <mrcoolbp> i5 - 8gb ram
[17:11:23] <mrcoolbp> even the "windows 8 suck" isn't bothering me too much yet
[17:13:24] <juggs> it's much improved since the 8.1 sp
[17:13:53] <mrcoolbp> I didn't use 8.0, I'm liking 8.1
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[17:16:32] <mrcoolbp> just for the sake of spamming a bit I'll repost my question:
[17:16:34] <mrcoolbp> Question: I have a new x64 machine, is it stupid to install an x86 version of photoshop? Should I seek out an x64 version? This seems like one case that would take advantage of x64. Discuss.
[17:16:41] <juggs> Blatant plagiarism from elsewhere..... A 32-bit application on Windows x64 can use up to 2 GBs. New applications that are Large Address Aware, and the developer has set this when building the application, can use up to 4GBs. A 32-bit application cannot go any higher than that.
[17:17:12] <mrcoolbp> that's an excellent point, but I shouldn't need more than 4gbs for image editing right?
[17:17:53] <mrcoolbp> assuming CS6 is "large address aware"
[17:17:56] <juggs> I suppose that would depend what you are editing :P Try it out and see.
[17:18:34] <mrcoolbp> not a huge downside for doing that save for the pain of uninstalling/reinstalling
[17:18:49] <juggs> newp
[17:18:56] <mrcoolbp> I guess I'm not really worried about fragmenting my 1TB HD quite yet = )
[17:19:12] <mrcoolbp> though it's up to 64gb already somehow
[17:19:36] <mrcoolbp> er, 51GB
[17:22:32] <mrcoolbp> thanks juggs, I'll do that now
[17:27:07] <Brylarke> ewwww, photoshop
[17:27:27] <mrcoolbp> what do you prefer Brylarke? Gimp?
[17:27:55] <Brylarke> I guess
[17:27:55] <Brylarke> But im not really a graphics guy
[17:28:11] <Brylarke> And that was said in the absence of having anything useful to say
[17:28:23] <mrcoolbp> I've just been using it for 15 years, it's what I know how to get things done it
[17:28:24] <mrcoolbp> in
[17:28:43] <mrcoolbp> could learn another, sure, but for now PS works pretty well
[17:28:54] <Brylarke> Fair enough
[17:29:51] <Brylarke> Though photoshop is a bit of a memory hog IIRC
[17:30:27] <mrcoolbp> that's true, opted for 8gb on this system, so I should be in better shape
[17:32:41] <Landon> mechanicjay: car on the way, it'll be like being a kid again
[17:32:46] <Landon> crank windows and manual door locks
[17:32:50] <Landon> :)
[17:33:30] <mechanicjay> Landon: congrats. I <3 my crank windows and manual door locks -- it's just less to break as the car gets old.
[17:33:56] <Landon> this is true
[17:34:04] <Landon> my car has automatic windows that tend to be underpowered
[17:34:15] <Landon> and my wife's car has had broken power locks ... forever
[17:35:20] <Landon> brushing up on these videos https://www.youtube.com
[17:35:21] <monopoly> ^ 03Propeller Shaft U-Joint Phasing - YouTube
[17:35:25] <Landon> transmissions are amazing
[17:35:31] <Landon> I never would have come up with these things in a million years
[17:36:29] <Blackmoore> mrcoolbp: are you doing a lot of layers in PS?
[17:36:39] <mrcoolbp> sometimes, yes
[17:37:08] <Blackmoore> yeah go woth the x64, those layers can add up quick
[17:37:41] <mrcoolbp> I don't currently have that version, it was more "is it worth the trouble of getting it?"
[17:38:00] <Blackmoore> i suspect you havent hit the 2gb limit of the x32 ed; but still
[17:38:28] <Blackmoore> you wouldnt see it - the data would be cached on the HD.
[17:38:29] <mrcoolbp> probably not, though I'm sure I used to hit the 2GB limit of my last machine = )
[17:38:59] <mrcoolbp> I'm going to try out the x32 version
[17:39:09] <Blackmoore> but if you have the ram, and you are running the old ed; it wouldnt even SEE the ram.
[17:39:39] <Blackmoore> so it will work, and but for the few times you run into it you shouldnt see a difference between the two
[17:42:35] <Blackmoore> (says the guy who at best runs gimp)
[17:43:20] <mrcoolbp> so not worth the trouble then = )
[17:51:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nightly Firefox Android Gets Chromecast Support - http://sylnt.us - can't-stop-the-signal
[17:56:54] <Blackmoore> the more i consider how you are using it; i expect that you are right.
[17:58:57] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore: I'm curious to hear your thoughts on how we might implement the "original journalism" idea
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[18:09:14] <Blackmoore> Well, first off we're going to need a handfull of people who are willing / able to work on thier own projects. I don't want to be the only journalist - since my style of writing may not be what eveyne is looking for.
[18:09:33] <juggs> mrcoolbp, just keep an eye on your memory and swapfile usage :)
[18:09:52] <mrcoolbp> right
[18:09:53] <Blackmoore> we can start small - I don't expect even 4 people at first\
[18:10:05] <mrcoolbp> okay
[18:10:58] <Blackmoore> it would be NICE but not required if we can color code those articles to bring attention to them. again - i dont think the slash code can do this right now but we can live without.
[18:11:04] <Blackmoore> a tag would be nice
[18:11:29] <Blackmoore> or a side bar location -
[18:12:02] <mechanicjay> I think this is a great idea, however, I am not a journalist
[18:12:10] <Blackmoore> since we would be featuring original work, and not just discussing reposted
[18:12:28] <Blackmoore> I don NOT want it to clog up the main page. that isnt slash
[18:12:31] <mrcoolbp> Agreed, we should mention the code-based "highlighting" to paulej72 or NCommander at some point then.
[18:12:45] <Blackmoore> or boing boing.
[18:13:08] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore: you want it under a different nexus probably
[18:13:13] <mrcoolbp> that might be enough
[18:13:19] <Blackmoore> that would be great
[18:13:40] <Blackmoore> because we want people to be able to find it after it is off the main page
[18:13:47] <paulej72> nexus would work well
[18:14:35] <paulej72> nexii get a new muen blow the navigation
[18:14:37] <Blackmoore> now I DO want the submitted articles to be subject to editorial review
[18:14:41] <paulej72> below
[18:15:22] <Blackmoore> cause i know i'm no english scholar and i miss spelling and grammer errors
[18:16:40] <Blackmoore> I think we need to start "small" that is nothing longer than NCommander's longest mssive - until we get our wheels under us.
[18:17:50] <Blackmoore> and it will require editorial to collaberate with the author - since we really do want to publish - it just might need fact checking or slight rewites.
[18:18:00] <Blackmoore> but hey - there is email for that
[18:19:02] <Blackmoore> as these get longer we may want to find an anternate process for submitting long original works.
[18:19:12] <Blackmoore> by email or whatever
[18:20:06] <Blackmoore> so fisrt we put a call out for the work, followed a day or so later by some original work.
[18:20:26] <Blackmoore> if it falls flat - we pick a different topic and try again
[18:21:13] <Blackmoore> I have a piece I'm working on about depression. so that might not be a win; and it might be ok.
[18:22:09] <Blackmoore> I'm gonna tend to write on the survailence state; so I'd like to see someone else pick up sciences and another for something else
[18:22:56] <Blackmoore> but for impelmentation - nexus is gonna be a big thing
[18:23:28] <Blackmoore> otherwise we're gonna hear crap about "drifting away from .."
[18:23:40] <Blackmoore> (which is a BS argument)
[18:24:46] <mrcoolbp> why would we use email for any of this?
[18:25:19] <Blackmoore> well that depends on the size of the submission; and how many times we have to back and forth with an editor.
[18:25:20] <mrcoolbp> for composing these works we could use the slash interface, save the story and UNcheck display.
[18:25:35] <mrcoolbp> that way it can be collaboratively edited
[18:25:57] <Blackmoore> you have to remeber I'm not schooled in the editor yet too
[18:26:10] <Blackmoore> if it can do that - then we are set.
[18:26:18] <mrcoolbp> would be even cooler if we had an etherpad that to ed.s could work together at the same time, but that wouldn't be useful usually due to the time-dialation involved in global collaboration
[18:26:33] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore: let's get you schooled in the editor today th4en
[18:26:37] <Blackmoore> yeah. pity that.
[18:26:41] <mrcoolbp> to dev!
[18:26:47] <Blackmoore> hehe
[18:26:52] <mrcoolbp> dev.soylentnews.org
[18:27:53] <Blackmoore> and ... password failure.. (damn my memory)
[18:27:59] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: gonna grant Blackmoore editor privs on dev, can you rebuild the cahce for me?
[18:28:31] <paulej72> not needed right away, I will in a bit
[18:28:40] <mrcoolbp> right, thanks
[18:29:12] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore: let's move this convo to #editorial so as not to spam up the main channel
[18:29:25] <mrcoolbp> (after you remember your password) : p
[18:30:34] <Blackmoore> all set
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[19:07:28] <drussell> !current-uid
[19:07:28] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4643, owned by nospam007
[19:10:41] <mrcoolbp> he's an anti-spam secret agent ^
[19:11:18] <paulej72> secret agent spam
[19:11:23] <drussell> Apparently :)
[19:11:36] <Blackmoore> they've given you a number, and taken way your name..
[19:11:40] <juggs> h
[19:11:45] <mrcoolbp> i
[19:11:55] <paulej72> gh
[19:12:07] <drussell> est
[19:12:12] <paulej72> ty
[19:13:32] <Blackmoore> po
[19:13:39] <mrcoolbp> uitine-- ?
[19:13:40] <Bender> karma - uitine: -1
[19:28:28] <Landon> !suggestion bite my shiny metal ass
[19:28:37] <Landon> !suggest bite my shiny metal ass
[19:28:39] <Landon> :(
[19:28:56] <mrcoolbp> = (
[19:29:15] <Landon> mrcoolbp: since they went to you at some point, bender would like to relay "Bite my shiny metal ass"
[19:30:49] <mrcoolbp> right. Thanks.
[19:30:59] <Landon> np
[19:38:45] <juggs> !current-uid
[19:38:45] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4644, owned by Fleabag
[19:42:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bruce Schneier: Breaking the NSA is One Way to Save the Internet - http://sylnt.us - rightous-jerimiad
[19:48:18] <crutchy> ~suggest bite my shiny metal ass
[19:48:28] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[19:48:52] <mrcoolbp> "bite my shiny metal ass ~ crutchy @ 19:48, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
[19:49:37] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: we could hook that back up, but I'm starting to think things like that should be added to github issue at this point
[19:52:54] <crutchy> nod nod
[20:02:26] <crutchy> mrcoolbp, i like the original journalism idea. wonder if journals are sort of useful for that?
[20:02:57] <mrcoolbp> we are talking fact-checked bonafied news articles
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[20:04:33] <crutchy> aww, so no "i had sexual relations with the president" headlines :(
[20:08:14] <crutchy> so it sort of implies finding some piece of news (from say the WSJ), going to the source and writing an original news report about it instead of copypasta?
[20:10:22] <crutchy> hmm
[20:10:27] <crutchy> !bite
[20:10:27] <Bender> crutchy: Bite my shiny. metal. ass.
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[20:13:24] <Blackmoore> crutchy: nah - i'm implying full blown new content; that may refrence existing articles; but in no way depends on copypasta
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[20:13:59] <Blackmoore> journals dont work for this since i do want an editor to check the dmn thing
[20:14:24] <Blackmoore> i dont want to impede jornals from being works of fiction
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[20:14:49] <crutchy> ooh, we need a Department of Ambulance Chasing then? :p
[20:15:14] <crutchy> like CNN
[20:18:44] <crutchy> my first ever SN submission was sort of original research (about the Morwell mine fire) but that was only cos i lived nearby
[20:24:39] <paulej72> my first ever SN submission is not even written yet
[20:24:54] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:55] <monopoly> ^ 04SN article 03 Coal Mine Fire Threatens Power 04(39 comments):
[20:25:24] * crutchy notes that he did provide a couple of links
[20:31:36] <Blackmoore> and now i have a work situation to deal with. the bastards.
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[20:38:36] <crutchy> hmm sn login doesn't seem to persist between browser closing/reopening. i must've broke my ff settings or something :/
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[20:41:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Users Urged to Shun Beheading Video to Respect James Foley - http://sylnt.us - if-it-bleeds-it-leads
[20:42:16] <crutchy> apparently the US gov has forgotten about the Streisand effect :p
[20:42:31] <chromas> crutchy: it's never persisted for me
[20:43:04] <crutchy> chromas, you need to stop eating the cookies :p
[20:44:44] <chromas> But they're so delicious
[20:46:58] * crutchy remembers first learning of cookies when he was in school, and the uncontrolled hysteria that soon followed
[20:47:33] <crutchy> hmm not sure hysteria is right word
[20:48:01] <crutchy> laughter would prolly do but it was more than ordinary laughter
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[20:57:05] <Landon> !sylnt soylentnews.org
[20:57:05] <Bender> invalid or bad URL
[20:57:10] <Landon> !sylnt http://soylentnews.org
[20:57:10] <Bender> http://sylnt.us
[20:57:12] <Landon> !sylnt http://soylentnews.org?test
[20:57:13] <Bender> http://sylnt.us
[20:57:15] <Landon> !sylnt http://soylentnews.org
[20:57:15] <Bender> http://sylnt.us
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[21:29:31] <juggs> !sylnt http://moo.moo.mo
[21:29:31] <Bender> invalid or bad URL
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[21:29:36] <juggs> teeee
[21:29:40] <juggs> hee
[21:33:04] <ar> http://rachelbythebay.com
[21:33:04] <monopoly> ^ 03fork() can fail: this is important
[21:41:48] <crutchy> !sylnt http://moo.soylentnews.org
[21:41:48] <Bender> http://sylnt.us
[21:42:19] <crutchy> ~suggest http://moo.soylentnews.org
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[21:43:15] <crutchy> garr! it fried the formatting! stupid bot
[21:46:27] <crutchy> ~suggest doorsnoker
[21:46:38] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[21:52:29] <crutchy> ~staff
[21:52:32] <exec> 08The next general staff and board meeting for the site will be on Wednesday, August 20th, at 7PM EDT (11PM UTC) in #staff on our IRC network. All are welcome to attend.
[21:52:45] <crutchy> still works
[21:52:53] <crutchy> ~suggest blah blah
[21:53:03] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[21:53:19] <crutchy> thas better
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[22:01:22] <juggs> Reminder: staff / board meeting 1 hour from now in #staff. All are cordially invited :D
[22:01:48] <mrcoolbp> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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[22:04:40] <crutchy> i'll be on my way to workipoos then. i'll check out the backlog later (if loggie is in the channel)
[22:08:41] <mrcoolbp> he is of course
[22:09:19] <crutchy> ~rehash
[22:09:19] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (57 aliases)
[22:09:24] <crutchy> ~staff
[22:09:33] <crutchy> ~staff meeting
[22:10:04] <crutchy> i killed it
[22:10:30] <crutchy> ~staff meeting
[22:10:53] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore, would you be willing to briefly overview the original journalism ideas you had at the meeting?
[22:10:53] <crutchy> pfft
[22:11:02] <crutchy> sorry that was to mysefl
[22:11:14] * crutchy forgets how to do a switch statement :/
[22:11:17] <crutchy> ~staff meeting
[22:11:19] <exec> 08The next general staff and board meeting for the site will be on Wednesday, August 20th, at 7PM EDT (11PM UTC) in #staff on our IRC network. All are welcome to attend.
[22:11:23] <crutchy> there we go
[22:11:26] <crutchy> ~staff
[22:11:33] <crutchy> all good
[22:12:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Linux Foundation Introduces New Linux Certification Program - http://sylnt.us - In-your-FACE-CompTIA
[22:12:51] <crutchy> LFCSE?
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[22:22:49] <crutchy> aye focker!
[22:23:40] <Ethanol-fueled> ;sup bro
[22:23:52] <Ethanol-fueled> took teh day off. What should I do for fun?
[22:24:02] <mrcoolbp> drink?
[22:24:08] <crutchy> just finishing my coffee before i gotta go to work :(
[22:24:15] <swiss> sleep
[22:24:17] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:24:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 641
[22:26:19] <Blackmoore> mrcoolbp: I'd like to - but I'm about to get out of the office and onto other requirements for a couple of hours
[22:26:50] <mrcoolbp> cool
[22:26:52] <Ethanol-fueled> coffee it is.
[22:27:04] <Ethanol-fueled> fortunately, I have a full one in my hand now.
[22:27:12] <Blackmoore> would you mind if i put it together and out to the mailing list?
[22:27:26] <Ethanol-fueled> i'm going to try to cut back on the drinking, or else I will flunk out of school and have to suck dicks for monies.
[22:27:33] <Blackmoore> (tomorrow at best)
[22:28:32] <Blackmoore> and i am out
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[22:29:07] <crutchy> hiya matt_
[22:29:14] <matt_> crutchy, hi!
[22:29:37] * matt_ looks covetously at his new coffee++ mug
[22:29:45] * crutchy is jealous
[22:30:17] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:30:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 642
[22:30:20] <matt_> crutchy, what's new?
[22:30:22] <matt_> coffee++
[22:30:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 643
[22:30:28] <crutchy> workipoos--
[22:30:28] <Bender> karma - workipoos: -4
[22:30:50] <crutchy> not much. just the usual; trolling SN, kiddywinks, work, etc
[22:31:01] <crutchy> you?
[22:31:29] <matt_> not much either. work, mainly.
[22:31:38] * mrcoolbp nods at matt
[22:31:51] <matt_> mrcoolbp, hi, sir!
[22:32:01] <mrcoolbp> Ehlo govnah
[22:32:32] * matt_ enjoyed slipping a UTF-8 smiley into one of his recent comments.
[22:33:01] <crutchy> gtg :(
[22:33:07] <crutchy> haf fun at bored meeting :D
[22:33:07] <mrcoolbp> Yeah I can't believe we beat /. to UTF 8
[22:33:14] <mrcoolbp> later crutchay
[22:33:19] <matt_> crutchy, bye!
[22:34:01] <matt_> c134r1y \/\/3 r0kz0rz!
[22:34:17] <matt_> major props to TMB.
[22:34:50] <matt_> so, is it just me or did anyone else possibly not get web messages over the weekend?
[22:35:21] <mrcoolbp> what kind of messages?
[22:35:26] <juggs> matt_ how's the quality on your mug?
[22:35:30] <juggs> and hi
[22:35:37] <matt_> juggs, hi! and, very nice.
[22:35:48] <juggs> glad to hear it :)
[22:35:56] <matt_> juggs, it looks like the printing is below the glazing, so it absorbed slightly into the ceramic, i think.
[22:36:10] <matt_> juggs, but i'm guessing that will make it super durable.
[22:36:44] <juggs> hopefully. I'll be ordering one up tomorrow xD
[22:36:45] <matt_> mrcoolbp, where it says "x new messages" on the login slashbox?
[22:37:59] <mrcoolbp> could have been due to the code deploy
[22:38:08] <mrcoolbp> sould be working now
[22:38:41] <matt_> so... what you're saying is that the 37 people i friended over the weekend probably don't know that they have a new fan :'-(
[22:38:46] <Ethanol-fueled> matt_ I got some.
[22:38:57] <matt_> Ethanol-fueled, oh, cool.
[22:39:13] <matt_> it just seemed like it may have been down for a few hours, then.
[22:39:18] <mrcoolbp> Ethanol-fueled: fans or notifications? = P
[22:40:17] <juggs> Reminder: staff / board meeting 20 minutes from now in #staff. All are cordially invited :D
[22:40:37] <mrcoolbp> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[22:40:58] <juggs> liking the mountain ranges mrcoolbp
[22:41:02] <mrcoolbp> = D
[22:43:51] <mrcoolbp> !woop
[22:43:51] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[22:44:15] <Ethanol-fueled> mrcool bp -- don't recall.
[22:44:28] <Ethanol-fueled> certainly not new fans. OH! but a ceased relationship.
[22:44:37] <mrcoolbp> oooh fun.
[22:44:40] <Ethanol-fueled> (don't remember if former friend or freak
[22:44:50] <Ethanol-fueled> it was after I wrote that pagelong troll where you all killed me.
[22:45:08] <matt_> Ethanol-fueled, wasn't evilviper, was it? he ceased his relationship with me this weekend.
[22:45:15] <Ethanol-fueled> matt, it WAS evilviper!
[22:45:25] <juggs> snake in the grass!
[22:45:31] <matt_> Ethanol-fueled, clearly he was doing some friend-curating ;)
[22:45:38] <mrcoolbp> guess so.
[22:45:47] <Ethanol-fueled> matt_ , maybe the poor bastard just needs a hug.
[22:46:09] <matt_> if only he'd asked for one, i'm sure it could have been arranged.
[22:46:36] <paulej72> matt_: messages did not go out over the weekend and were not recoverable. the system is fixed now, but i did not tru to fix thee broken ones
[22:47:08] <matt_> paulej72, ah, i see.
[22:47:24] <Ethanol-fueled> I guess I didn
[22:47:29] <Ethanol-fueled> didnt recieve messages then.
[22:47:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Bender, that looks like Cutman from the original Mega-Man
[22:48:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh wait, no it don't.
[22:48:13] <juggs> Bender said something? :-/
[22:48:26] <mrcoolbp> !woop
[22:48:26] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[22:48:29] <mrcoolbp> yeah that ^
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[22:48:42] <juggs> ahh
[22:48:52] * mrcoolbp winks at Bytram|away
[22:49:16] <juggs> get a room :P
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[22:49:41] <mrcoolbp> Ethanol-fueled: acutally I'll give you points for that one http://martianoddity.files.wordpress.com
[22:49:53] <mrcoolbp> juggs is jealous
[22:49:55] <Bytram> g'day all!
[22:49:55] <ciri> hi i'm happy today! :D Bytram
[22:50:03] <mrcoolbp> ROFL
[22:50:03] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[22:50:07] <mrcoolbp> you ciri
[22:50:07] * Bytram *so* wants to kick ciri
[22:50:12] <mrcoolbp> no bytram!
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[22:50:21] <mrcoolbp> her intelligence is growing....
[22:50:34] <Bytram> would not have been difficult, methings
[22:50:38] <Bytram> s/g/k/
[22:50:39] <exec> <Bytram> would not have been difficult, methinks
[22:51:04] <Bytram> just getting in to make sure connection is good; back in a few minutes
[22:51:19] <Bytram> ~weather NCommander
[22:51:20] <stderr> I have an idea for a test for a "Linux Security Expert"-certificate... Step 1: Go to https://www.examslocal.com Step 2: Install the Chrome extension. Step 3: You just failed.
[22:51:22] <monopoly> ^ 03WebDelivery Compatibility Check
[22:51:23] <exec> weather for 10Anchorage, AK US at 2:15 pm (AKDT) ~ 36 mins ago: temp: 1014.4°C (58°F), dp: 1012.1°C (53.8°F), press: 101018.6 mb (0 mb/18 mins), humid: 1085%, wind: 100 km/h (0 mph) @ 10253°
[22:51:59] <Bytram> !uid
[22:51:59] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4645, owned by dunnomattic
[22:52:12] <stderr> Guess I won't be getting any of the new certificates...
[22:52:13] <Bytram> afk brb
[22:52:30] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah stderr
[22:53:05] * Bytram wonders what's to keep a person from taking the exam with a knowledgeable friend looking over the shoulder and helping with the answers
[22:53:23] <stderr> Bytram: The webcam + microphone...
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[22:59:24] * Bytram has no mike or webcam, no has he, obviously, taken one of these exams.
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[23:01:17] * TheMightyBuzzard can't chair the meeting, he's on a couch.
[23:01:37] <juggs> Reminder: staff / board meeting **NOW** in #staff. All are cordially invited :D
[23:03:15] <stderr> "The screensharing feed allows proctors to view candidates' desktops (including all monitors)."... Poor proctor.
[23:04:26] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, ping, can you join #staff
[23:04:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> am there
[23:04:40] <mrcoolbp> lol
[23:04:41] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[23:04:47] <juggs> hehehehehehehe
[23:04:49] <mrcoolbp> hahaha
[23:04:53] <juggs> lol
[23:04:53] <ciri> hahaha
[23:04:56] <juggs> ty ciri
[23:22:19] <Bytram> .op
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[23:26:50] <SpallsHurgenson> the cows crawl in, the cows crawl out, into your stomach and out your mouth
[23:28:56] <juggs> hey SpallsHurgenson - board/staff meeting ongoing in #staff if you are interested
[23:29:45] <SpallsHurgenson> thanks, but I think I'll just waste everybody's time and test everybody's patience with my deluge of innanities here :)
[23:30:41] <juggs> oooh - there's always plenty of that anyway. :D
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[23:35:56] <SpallsHurgenson> anyway, I want soylentnews to be like McNuggets; I want to be able to enjoy them without knowing the nasty bits that goes into making it so good :)
[23:36:10] <mrcoolbp> I can understand that.
[23:36:23] <mrcoolbp> but someone has to grind up those chickens whole
[23:36:38] <mrcoolbp> er, nevermind what I just said Spalls
[23:37:11] <SpallsHurgenson> like they'd use the whole chicken anyway. It's just beaks and toenails :)
[23:37:21] <mrcoolbp> obvi
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[23:40:45] * SpallsHurgenson wonders what the "beaks and toenails" would be in regards to soylent operations... but decides he is better off not knowing
[23:41:01] <mrcoolbp> yeah, don't open that pandora's box
[23:41:07] <mrcoolbp> might find a dead cat
[23:41:16] * mrcoolbp confuses analogies and metaphors alot
[23:41:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Children Shift to Retrieving Facts from Memory to Solve Math Problems - http://sylnt.us - base-$FINGERS
[23:42:55] <SpallsHurgenson> isn't that how I do my math? I memorized things like 2+2-4, 3/4 = .75 and 6x9=42
[23:47:03] <juggs> We used to call it "times tables" when I was at school.
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[23:48:05] <SpallsHurgenson> this new new new math confuses me... and apparently confuses most of the teachers too.
[23:48:37] <Lagg> SpallsHurgenson: Fish byproduct and chicken flavoring. You're welcome.
[23:49:06] <SpallsHurgenson> Lagg: lalalalalala! I got my fingers in my ears and I can't hear you!
[23:49:11] <Lagg> I accidentally found out, now I'm taking all you bastards down with me!
[23:50:27] <SpallsHurgenson> interesting article about why kids are having problems with this newest of the new maths: http://www.nytimes.com
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[23:55:45] <SpallsHurgenson> I learned "13-9=4" whereas now they seem to be teaching kids "13-9= ((10+3)-(6+3)) = ((10-6)+(3-3))"... no wonder kids are flunking
[23:56:00] <SpallsHurgenson> sometimes rote memorization /is/ better
[23:56:07] <SpallsHurgenson> at least for basics like that
[23:58:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's how i always did math anyway
[23:59:07] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, I understand the concepts they are trying to teach there... but I don't think that's the sort of thing you need to be pushing on kids who are stuggling with two-digit arithmetic
[23:59:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> you need to let the ones who suck at math fall behind if that is their destiny
[23:59:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> keep teaching them but don't set the pace by them