#Soylent | Logs for 2014-08-01

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[00:30:59] <SpallsHurgenson> hey look, everybody is here!
[00:31:48] <juggs> where?
[00:32:32] <JamesNZ> He means all the cool folk :P
[00:32:42] <arti> chill out.
[00:32:48] <juggs> I'll get ma coat then :D
[00:33:00] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[00:34:11] <SpallsHurgenson> I guess you've all been wondering why I asked you here today. It is to announce that I have discovered the name of the murderer... and he is someone in this room!
[00:34:17] <SpallsHurgenson> dun-dun-DAHN!!!!!!!
[00:35:08] <arti> sounds like a good eggdrop game
[00:35:11] <arti> who done it
[00:35:46] * SpallsHurgenson waits for somebody to break down and confess in the face of this thrilling revelation
[00:38:29] <SpallsHurgenson> awww, please, somebody confess? My whole case was sorta somewhat based on somebody breaking down and confessing in the face of my thrilling revelation.
[00:38:43] <arti> i did it
[00:38:47] * arti hangs head in shame
[00:38:58] <SpallsHurgenson> whoa, it worked! I didn't think it would!
[00:39:09] <JamesNZ> OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!
[00:39:32] <arti> it's like i've insulted islam or something
[00:39:47] <SpallsHurgenson> and that solves the Case of the Man Who Brought Flocks of Crows Together
[00:40:00] <arti> they're known as Murders
[00:40:03] <paulej72> I work with islam ( yes that is the guy’s name)
[00:40:09] <SpallsHurgenson> thus making you a Murderer :)
[00:40:12] * arti is familiar with DSLAMS
[00:40:35] <arti> ISLAM must be some new telecommunications equipment
[00:40:36] <paulej72> dheadslams
[00:40:40] <arti> maybe developed by apple!
[00:40:57] <SpallsHurgenson> iSLAM? <groan>
[00:41:02] <JamesNZ> XD
[00:41:05] <arti> USLAM
[00:41:12] <arti> WE ALL SLAM AT THE OLD BALL GAME~
[00:41:13] <JamesNZ> BSLAMD.
[00:41:28] <arti> ^-- after a few drinks
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[00:41:55] <arti> it worked, he's left the continuum
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[00:43:41] <SpallsHurgenson> impressive; I can't even find the door much less actually make my escape
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[00:45:23] <arti> chromas and monopoly sitting in a channel, t-y-p-i-n-g
[00:45:36] <SpallsHurgenson> arg, I got updated to firefox 31 :-(
[00:45:39] <chromas> lol
[00:46:09] <SpallsHurgenson> I really gotta find a firefox alternative
[00:46:42] <arti> palemoon
[00:46:43] <JamesNZ> SpallsHurgenson: Don't like the chromeification? :P
[00:46:48] <juggs> there seems to be a few alternatives knocking about
[00:46:55] <arti> i hear lynx is good
[00:47:03] <SpallsHurgenson> geez, they put a big google bar on about:newtab :-/
[00:47:07] <arti> maybe you can go retro and use ie6
[00:47:33] <SpallsHurgenson> how well does palemoon handle mozilla add-ons?
[00:48:00] <arti> good question
[00:48:02] <juggs> apparently completely compatible
[00:48:14] <juggs> AIUI
[00:48:32] <juggs> give it a go and let us know :D
[00:49:14] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently the search-bar is going away in firefox 34
[00:49:29] <arti> "what good is a search bar when you have nothing to search for?"
[00:49:47] <arti> *watches in horror as the searchbar melts away*
[00:49:53] * arti awakes in his bed
[00:53:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, compatibility is exactly the same as with FF 24 on palemoon
[00:54:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> or close enough that if you find a difference, you deserve massive e-peen credit
[00:54:29] <arti> everyone likes massive e-peen
[00:54:38] <arti> i hear germany is leading the world in e-peen enlargement
[00:54:52] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: many updates tonight. I added half of the stuff you gave me. I am testing to see what is broken :)
[00:55:10] <arti> good, let the hate flow :D
[00:55:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably plenty of typos. i didn't check to see if it compiled.
[00:55:46] <juggs> hehe evil
[00:55:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> if it does though, i'm claiming five internet points
[00:56:15] <arti> haha
[00:56:18] <arti> internet points
[00:56:32] <arti> btw you've killed quite a bit of stuff on your server
[00:56:52] <arti> is there some secret to your success?
[00:57:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> here's the most current versions. might double check the stuff you put it is the same. http://pastebin.com http://pastebin.com http://pastebin.com
[00:57:11] <monopoly> ^ 03[Perl] ppipn.pl updated - Pastebin.com
[00:57:11] <monopoly> ^ 03[MySQL] schema for paypal_log table - Pastebin.com
[00:57:11] <monopoly> ^ 03[Perl] Add to Subscribe.pl for ppipn.pl - Pastebin.com
[00:57:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> arti, who, me?
[00:57:33] <arti> yeah, noticed the kill counts
[00:57:42] <paulej72> too late now :)
[00:57:53] <arti> trail of steers? :D
[00:58:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, right. found a baddie generator and made a baddie killing assembly line.
[00:58:38] <arti> efficient
[00:58:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> drops them down a hole that takes them to low health from the fall then i go in and beat on them from behind a fence.
[00:59:07] <arti> hahaha
[00:59:24] <arti> so for it to count you have to interact with it
[00:59:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep
[00:59:47] <arti> bah, my lava pit idea is foiled
[00:59:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> beats hunting for xp to enchant things, though enchanting is changing soon.
[01:03:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> arti, that kill count isn't the only scoreboard. i wrote a script that uses rcon to flip it through eight or ten different scoreboards for different things.
[01:04:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> i just don't run it all the time.
[01:04:18] * arti is looking at bukket stuff and reading up on upcoming changes
[01:04:30] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: no internet for you :(
[01:04:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah well
[01:05:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> undoubtedly because i put use strict up there or forgot some punctuation
[01:07:22] <paulej72> missing my’s
[01:08:11] <paulej72> this was on the stuff for Subscribe.pm. I have not added the ppipn file yet
[01:09:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, saw that in the error log
[01:10:03] * TheMightyBuzzard hangs head in shame, sees beer, forgets shame, drinks beer
[01:10:19] <paulej72> This is becoming a mammoth fix. 20 files updated so far with more comming https://github.com
[01:10:21] <monopoly> ^ 03Comparing SoylentNews:master...paulej72:subscriptions · paulej72/slashcode · GitHub
[01:10:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't think of it as debugging my code. think of it as having someone else write your first drafts for you.
[01:11:15] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I am very happy that you have done so. It has saved me alot of time
[01:11:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> is a pretty impressive swath of changes
[01:12:58] <paulej72> It is almost a complete rewirte of the code.
[01:13:07] <arti> NOW WITH NEW SQL!
[01:13:17] <arti> 10% MORE FREE!
[01:13:32] <arti> man korean bbq is calling me
[01:13:35] <arti> :U~
[01:14:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, oh hey, if you pull in that latest commit of mine into the codebase you should lose the "index.pl ND story" errors in the logs
[01:14:50] <SpallsHurgenson> you might want to leave it on the grill a bit longer if it is calling you
[01:15:41] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: yes I know, i should do that now.
[01:15:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> it looks to be a debug thing that someone was working with and never took out because it ALWAYS prints.
[01:15:54] <juggs> are barbequed korean men tasty arti?
[01:16:51] <arti> yes
[01:20:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "BadUSB" Exploit Makes Devices Turn "Evil" - http://sylnt.us - physical-access-often-defeats-security-measures
[01:22:59] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: merged you commit, it was a nice and clean merge
[01:23:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> woohoo!
[01:23:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> those are the only kind i can stand really. the others make me a sad panda.
[01:25:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> argh, why would it look for getCurrentDb in Slash::Subscribe?
[01:29:47] * TheMightyBuzzard thinks something needs a good kicking
[01:31:06] * juggs edges out of the room
[01:33:07] * SpallsHurgenson edges closer
[01:35:10] * juggs turns and flees in panic, screaming "Put your pants on at least!"
[01:35:34] <SpallsHurgenson> me agrees to meet your demands halfway
[01:35:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was thinking lithium was a good target but i agree with juggs about the pants issue
[01:36:41] <SpallsHurgenson> you are all anti-antipantites
[01:38:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> it really doesn't help you putting groucho marx glasses on your wedding tackle.
[01:39:05] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: my $slashdb = getCurrentDB(); notice the capital B
[01:39:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh
[01:41:04] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: a have an issue with sub ppAddLog. You have uid found with txnToUID, but for pdt, I am inserting into log after gettng the data from pp but before inserting into payments table. I have uid directly as part of the item being logged.
[01:41:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. hrm...
[01:42:08] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: no that is not quite correct, I do not have the uid as a uid field at that point. just as item_number.
[01:42:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> easy nuff fix
[01:43:41] * TheMightyBuzzard looks
[01:43:45] <paulej72> do we really need to log the uid directly in this log, or can we just know it is in the raw data somewhere.
[01:45:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> we can log it easy enough. my ($self, $logthis) = @_; to my ($self, $logthis, $uid) = @_;
[01:45:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> and pass it a uid from yours
[01:45:26] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: it seems to me we want to log this as soon as we get it. and then do the real work on it..
[01:46:24] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I would rather not do that as I do not have the calculated yet when I want to do the insert into the log.
[01:46:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> true nuff but if we do that and change $uid = txnToUID($txn_id) unless $uid; all is right with the world
[01:46:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[01:46:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight... hrm...
[01:47:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> then my $uid = txnToUID($txn_id); to my $uid = txnToUID($txn_id) || '';
[01:47:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> and change the uid column to accept nulls
[01:50:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> saves time since txnToUID will return 0 and be set to null value if it can't find the transaction or a uid for it either one
[01:50:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> just thought it would be easier for log sorting to have a uid associated with txns
[01:53:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, oh right, uid column is already null for just that reason
[01:55:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> my bad in the coding of ppAddLog then. should always have been my $uid = txnToUID($txn_id) || '';
[01:57:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> afk a few, putting the cat to bed
[01:58:20] <paulej72> Transaction 6EC87558HU895150B completed. Thank you for supporting Dev.SN.
[01:58:44] <mrcoolbp_> Yay
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[02:04:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> out freaking standing
[02:05:37] * TheMightyBuzzard sings breaking the law, breaking the law
[02:05:43] * arti rocks out
[02:05:51] * arti just had some food
[02:07:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ripping a dvd so i don't have to find the disk when i want to watch it.
[02:07:31] * TheMightyBuzzard is a rebel and will never ever be any good
[02:07:49] <arti> the han solo of media
[02:08:22] <arti> using handbrake or are you going some custom toolchain route
[02:09:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> HandBrakeCLI
[02:09:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> good enough for me. i don't need to get any fancier than i can get with the -x option
[02:10:20] <arti> cool, you mean you don't like all the meta encoder settings and passes crap?
[02:10:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> get better results with a specific q value
[02:11:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> --encoder x264 --x264-preset slow -q 20 --x264-tune film -B 128 -R 48 -E faac -f mp4 -m -O -6 dpl2 -x threads=3
[02:12:42] <paulej72> 320x240
[02:13:06] <paulej72> get that size down
[02:13:34] <arti> we can play some doom :D
[02:28:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, that is a lot of error messages from Slash/Utility/Environment.pm
[02:29:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> well warnings but still
[02:30:38] * SpallsHurgenson perks up, "Doom?"
[02:31:02] <arti> !google websocket javascript doom
[02:31:03] <ciri> 1,540,000 results | Writing WebSocket client applications - WebSockets | MDN @ https://developer.mozilla.org | WebSocket - Web API Interfaces | MDN @ https://developer.mozilla.org | The WebSocket API @ http://www.w3.org | Receiving "Error: InvalidStateError: DOM
[02:31:04] <ciri> Exception 11" on HTML5 ... @ http://stackoverflow.com | javascript - Update DOM automatically with dynamically acquired ... @ http://stackoverflow.com
[02:31:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, i have some DOOM shareware cds
[02:31:18] * arti eats some runts
[02:31:21] <paulej72> just put in a fix for the pair at 16xx
[02:31:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> i really should do something with those.
[02:31:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, that's why you get paid the big bucks
[02:32:39] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders
[02:32:42] <paulej72> that one at 2715 is very scary
[02:32:57] <arti> the year was 2715, and the empire was crumbling...
[02:33:07] <paulej72> lol
[02:33:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i thought the one after it was
[02:33:43] <paulej72> perl cleanup
[02:34:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[02:34:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> i've never seen %_ used before
[02:34:31] <arti> it's used in mordor
[02:34:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, the 2715 one is simple to understand just kinda clunky to fix
[02:35:01] <paulej72> but it is `%_’
[02:35:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, %_ frightens and confuses me
[02:36:35] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: i don’t know enough to be frightened :)
[02:37:04] <arti> !google youtube yoda you will be
[02:37:05] <ciri> 2,820,000 results | YouTube- Yoda YOU WILL BE.wmv - YouTube @ http://www.youtube.com | Star Wars: "You will be..." [Yoda & Luke] HD - YouTube @ http://www.youtube.com | Yoda - YouTube @ http://www.youtube.com | Do. Or do not. There is no try. - YouTube @ http://www.youtube.com | Yoda sound clips
[02:37:06] <ciri> (YodaJeff's Yoda Page) - YodaJeff.com @ http://www.yodajeff.com
[02:38:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, just go up above the original if from 2715, declare $somenewvar = $ENV{QUERY_STRING} || ''; and change the variable being =~ to $somenewvar
[02:39:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> if it still gives you grief after that change the '' to 'It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken'
[02:41:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Citizen Lab: Where Security Expertise, Politics, and Ethics Collide - http://sylnt.us - Rosehub
[02:42:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> woohoo, we have 20 fake dollars!
[02:42:57] * arti fights the urge to take it
[02:46:29] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: fuck it. It seems to only show up under some strange situations.
[02:47:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg
[02:47:18] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I just purchased a gift sub for you on dev. You will now see a star beside your name in comments.
[02:47:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> 40! 40 fake dollars!
[02:47:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> neato
[02:47:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> got one on live too
[02:48:56] <paulej72> the live one was NCommander granting butt-loads of pages to the staff members. The new badge is a bit nicer than the old * that was easily missed.
[02:49:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh
[02:49:48] <paulej72> And it links to the subscription page
[02:49:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> shiny n yeller
[02:52:11] <paulej72> ok list of things to do: get ipn up and running, make sure the subscription mails work, get the unlimited comments views on the user info page, and finally make it so posting limits are bypassed.
[02:53:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> unlimited comments views... all on one page or paginated?
[02:54:30] <paulej72> I think it is already paginated, but it only goes back so far.
[02:55:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be an easy fix then. just yoink the LIMIT part out of the statement
[02:56:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, that'd be bad
[02:56:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> that'd put them all on one page
[02:56:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> which, while funny, is not what we want
[02:57:40] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: i need to put in a var to toggle the fuction globally then find the place that sets the time and reset it if the global var is on and the user isSubscriber.
[02:58:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> put an off switch in? where's your sense of adventure?
[02:58:42] <paulej72> I think for the speed limits, we have normal urser and anon limits so I will just add subscriber limits.
[02:58:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[02:59:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> i hit the normal limits regularly. i am verbose.
[02:59:57] <paulej72> the problem is that I have not looked at eh code for reskey so I may have a bitch of a time finding the proper place to make the cahnges.
[03:00:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> me either
[03:00:25] * SpallsHurgenson realizes it is the end of the month and rushes to get his work done
[03:00:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i have been drinking so tonight would be a bad time to look
[03:00:45] * arti watches as spalls vainly invoices his clients :P
[03:00:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, got gift sub email
[03:01:12] <paulej72> I only hit them on dev wehn I am posting for testing. I also hit it hard when I was working on updating the password code. seems you can only reset a password 10 times a day :(
[03:01:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[03:01:37] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: that is great. At least one part works.
[03:03:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, you even fixed the subscribe.pl page to read days instead of pages
[03:04:40] <paulej72> I had that fixed a long time ago. One of the first things i did
[03:06:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, it's ... and i'm boozed. believe it's time to call it a night. ... was going to say zero dark thirty but some cockbiting fucktards went and used that for the title of a dumbshit movie, so it's ruined forever.
[03:12:50] <arti> much like the actor who played anakin in the first of the prequels
[03:13:21] <arti> students would make the lightsaber sound upon seeing him to grief him
[03:13:35] <arti> apparently he doesn't dig star wars
[03:14:11] * SpallsHurgenson feels no sympathy for young master "Yahoo!"
[03:15:55] <arti> just pretend he's a target drone, use the force.
[03:16:27] <SpallsHurgenson> erm, I mean, I have no idea what you are talking about. Hey, wouldn't it be great if they created prequel movies to Star Wars? They should do that one day.
[03:17:01] <arti> i'm curious how the new ones will be
[03:17:08] * arti would've liked a thrawn
[03:17:13] <SpallsHurgenson> honestly, at this point I'm not
[03:17:48] <SpallsHurgenson> I used to be the biggest Star Wars whore - I mean, I own pretty much all the merchandising - but at this point I think I've been worn down by the crappiness o the franchise
[03:18:17] <SpallsHurgenson> plus, I invested so much in the expanded universe, it pisses me off to see Disney discard it like that :)
[03:18:29] <arti> i find your lack of merchandise disturbing
[03:21:10] <SpallsHurgenson> I want to find that (unofficial, I think, and definitely non-canon) Star Wars book I read 35 years ago where Luke Skywalker joins the academy and then blows up a comet before it hits a planet in what looked liked a Z-95. I wish I remember what it was called...
[03:21:44] <arti> we need a !watson
[03:28:47] <SpallsHurgenson> !Watson come here, I need to see you!
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[04:09:12] * SpallsHurgenson litters the internet with more of his nonsense
[04:20:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - C.I.A. Admits Penetrating Senate Intelligence Computers - http://sylnt.us - who-watches-the-watchers?-the-CIA
[04:22:12] <SpallsHurgenson> I was tempted to start a Whitehouse.gov petition for obama to remove Director Brennan from his position at the head of the CIA for lying to Congress
[04:29:51] <mrcoolbp> sounds reasonable.
[04:30:42] <SpallsHurgenson> but honestly, I withheld from doing so because I didn't want to draw attention to myself; I've started to become afraid of my own government (or at least the unnaccountable people working maliciously under its aegis)
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[04:48:42] <mrcoolbp> ah, fair point
[04:49:25] <swiss> being afraid of the government is a simple self fulfilling prophecy
[04:49:28] * SpallsHurgenson waits for somebody else to start the petition and get a few hundred signatures first :)
[04:49:44] <swiss> "I'm afraid of the government" "Oh no, the government is doing something scary"
[04:50:05] <SpallsHurgenson> swiss: very true. we work to create our own realities. Police think they are seen as brutal and so see no problem becoming more brutal
[04:50:26] <swiss> yet I have only met 1 dick police officer
[04:50:31] <swiss> and i have dealt with probably 30-40
[04:50:50] <SpallsHurgenson> most people - police or otherwise - are okay folk.
[04:51:20] <SpallsHurgenson> but the problem is that there ARE bad people with authority over us, and we neither know who they are nor have any way to hold them accountable for their wrong-doing
[04:51:29] <swiss> I think people approach the police like the police are going to be dicks ("I don't answer any questions" and that bullshit), and the police basically just fall back on the strictest rules they can when people do stupid shit like that to them
[04:51:36] <SpallsHurgenson> this causes a general distrust which feeds upon itself
[04:52:02] <SpallsHurgenson> swiss: but as the police have the upper hand, it is upon them to earn our trust
[04:52:13] <swiss> "earn your trust"
[04:52:18] <swiss> they don't need to do that shit
[04:52:28] <swiss> the police's job is to enforce the law
[04:52:48] <swiss> and to keep society safe
[04:52:54] <SpallsHurgenson> yes they do. We as a people have given them powers above and beyond those held by ordinary citizens with the trust that they will use them correctly.
[04:53:00] <swiss> if you make it easier for them to do their job, they're going to make your life easier
[04:53:12] <SpallsHurgenson> Because of the actions of a few, they as a whole have lost that trust
[04:53:19] <SpallsHurgenson> they need to show they are worthy of that trust
[04:53:29] <SpallsHurgenson> (again)
[04:53:59] <swiss> what i've seen is a few bad people, and then all the conspiracy theorists and "I'm a rebellious teenager, but I'm 35!" idiots use that to rant about how the police are so bad
[04:54:37] <SpallsHurgenson> the bad apples are far outnumbered by the good, but they are not being held accountable by the system. The good cops need to step up and do something about that
[04:54:43] <swiss> I haven't gotten a ticket even though a cop has pulled me over with a plethora of things he could write me up on
[04:54:57] <swiss> and I acknowledged every single one that was illegal about my car
[04:55:04] <swiss> and named a few more he didn't catch
[04:55:09] <swiss> and told him I was working on fixing them
[04:55:24] <swiss> and he let me off. Because I made it clear that I wasn't trying to get in his way, and I wasn't endangering the public
[04:55:27] <SpallsHurgenson> we increasingly are inundated by stories of officers wrecklessly misuing their authority and at worst they receive a paid suspension rather than face the penalties an ordinary citizen would receive had he performed those same crimes
[04:56:05] <swiss> in fact, i've been told by many officers that there are a couple things you can do to automatically end with you getting a ticket
[04:56:14] <swiss> 1. "I don't answer any questions"
[04:56:21] <swiss> 2. Lie about your speed
[04:56:29] <swiss> 3. Ask to see the radar gun
[04:56:55] <SpallsHurgenson> 1 and 2 are based on distrust of the police. 2 is just dishonest :)
[04:57:37] <swiss> 4. Ask whether or not you're getting a ticket (in a "let me go, this is taking too long" type of way)
[04:58:05] <arti> 5. Make quick motions with your hands, like you're reaching for something.
[04:58:18] <swiss> arti: that's how you get cuffed on the ground
[04:58:27] <swiss> but if you don't backtalk the officer
[04:58:59] <arti> 6. Name them 'Fascist Scum' for verbose output
[04:59:00] <SpallsHurgenson> that's the distrust of the police working the other way; because people no longer act civilly around police, they assume the worst about us
[04:59:02] <swiss> and you make it clear you're willing to soothe any concern he could have about you (not make excuses) and comply as much as you can, he'll generally let you go
[04:59:24] <swiss> i've got a very.... special looking car
[04:59:34] <swiss> so i get pulled over pretty often because they want to search it for drugs
[04:59:36] * arti imagines special written in crayon
[04:59:57] <swiss> and i've always said "Sure, you can search it, i even vacuumed it last week!"
[05:00:17] <swiss> i've also never had my car searched
[05:01:30] <swiss> i got pulled over since my license plate light was out. My words were "Really?! I thought I replaced that with my friend last week. We were cleaning overspray off of it. Can I go back and take a look right now? He might have forgotton to plug it in"
[05:02:09] <swiss> cop immediately relaxed, and was like "Oh, really? Yeah, it looked like it was off, but I couldn't be sure. you can't do it right now, pull into a parking lot and check it out. Just wanted you ot know!"
[05:02:28] <swiss> i've also gotten pulled over for felony-level speeds
[05:02:34] <swiss> once when i was accidentily racing a cop
[05:02:38] <swiss> every time I get off
[05:02:53] * arti resists
[05:02:56] <swiss> just be cool with the cop and he'll be cool with you
[05:03:07] <SpallsHurgenson> with most cops
[05:03:44] <swiss> with every single one I've dealt with
[05:03:56] <swiss> the first one I dealt with (and the only one that wrote me a ticket) I was kinda snappy with
[05:04:11] <SpallsHurgenson> mind you, this is all aside from the point: even if I am rude, that is no reason for me to be arrested or fined.
[05:05:13] <swiss> i haven't had anyone I know have a bad experience with a cop that they didn't start
[05:05:41] <SpallsHurgenson> that doesn't matter. Rudeness is not illegal. I can be rude to fellow citizens :)
[05:06:18] <SpallsHurgenson> if I am rude and am arrested because of it then that is an abuse of authority
[05:07:53] <swiss> rudeness is not illegal, but obstruction of justice is
[05:08:28] <swiss> and if you are making their job difficult to the point that they believe they cannot personally determine whether it's safe to let you go or not, taking you into the station is probably the best bet
[05:08:54] <swiss> if it *is* something against regulations that they do, they will be reprimanded (as plenty of cops out here are)
[05:09:10] <SpallsHurgenson> the reprimands are toothless
[05:09:17] <swiss> in some cases
[05:09:34] <SpallsHurgenson> in too many cases. Suspension with Pay is vacation
[05:10:05] <swiss> I believe that the suspension being on their record prevents them from being able to advance/claim other pay
[05:10:46] <swiss> you should aim to see it the other way
[05:10:48] <SpallsHurgenson> anyway, this is an interesting discussion and I would like to continue it some other night... but I need sleep for now if I will be functional tomorrow :)
[05:11:00] <swiss> the government is trying to help you as much as they can, but not everyone is perfect
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[05:11:25] <swiss> arti: how are you doing tonight?
[05:29:32] <mrcoolbp> /me realizes if he stays up 1.5 hours his wife will be getting up for work tomorrow
[05:42:26] <mrcoolbp> swiss: how are you doin' ?
[05:43:06] <swiss> pretty good
[05:43:41] <mrcoolbp> nice.
[05:53:26] <mrcoolbp> swiss, what's the local time there?
[05:53:34] <swiss> mrcoolbp: PDT, so nearly 11pm
[05:53:35] * mrcoolbp is approaching 2am
[05:53:49] <swiss> nice
[05:53:51] <swiss> dat EST
[05:53:56] <mrcoolbp> ya
[05:54:05] <mrcoolbp> EST/EDT
[05:55:43] <swiss> i need to sign up for my motorcycle test at the DMV
[05:55:48] <mrcoolbp> cool
[05:55:59] * mrcoolbp 's dad rides
[05:56:28] <mrcoolbp> I want to learn, but my wife is (understandably) scared
[05:57:08] <swiss> take the MSF course
[05:57:12] <swiss> i had never ridden before
[05:57:22] <mrcoolbp> my dad is a software dev. guru, need to get him on this project
[05:57:22] <swiss> it's a great course, even if you never get your license
[05:57:42] <mrcoolbp> swiss: if I ever have some free time
[05:57:48] <mrcoolbp> which is probably never
[05:57:58] * mrcoolbp needs to take a month off
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[06:00:22] <mrcoolbp> I don't think I'll make it another hour, need a time waster...
[06:01:17] <swiss> mrcoolbp: it's on a weekend
[06:01:28] * mrcoolbp works weekends
[06:01:35] <chromas> mrcoolbp: you could read SN :D
[06:01:36] <swiss> just don't work a weekend
[06:01:39] <mrcoolbp> =' (
[06:01:49] <mrcoolbp> chromas: I was just goin' to do that
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[06:02:09] * mrcoolbp doesn't usually get to read ALL of the comments but tries to keep up with the stories
[06:03:40] * chromas let the dog eat a baked potato earlier; now she's staring intently, waiting for another
[06:03:54] <mrcoolbp> big mistake
[06:04:09] <mrcoolbp> you think you're doin' them a favor, but no.
[06:04:16] <chromas> didn't think she'd go for ir thr first time; no seasoning or anything
[06:05:28] <mrcoolbp> yeah...like I said...big mistake.
[06:07:16] <arti> swiss: doing good, was exploring fract
[06:11:09] <swiss> arti: you'll have to tell me about it tomorrow, bedtime for me
[06:16:34] <arti> alright sir, may the electric sheep visit you
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[06:28:03] <crutchy> ~weather crutchy
[06:28:06] <exec> weather for 10Morwell (latrobe Valley Airport), VIC, Australia at 2014-08-01 05:00:00 (UTC) ~ 1.5 hrs ago:
[06:28:06] <exec> temp: 1043.5°F (6.4°C), dp: 1040.5°F (4.7°C), press: 101007.1 mb (4.7 mb over 6 hrs), humid: 1088%, wind: 1017 mph (27.2 km/h) @ 10290°
[06:29:49] <keplr> Can you display the weather for any location?
[06:31:31] <chromas> ~weather hell
[06:31:35] <exec> weather for 10Washington, DC US at 2014-08-01 05:48:00 (UTC) ~ 0.7 hrs ago:
[06:31:35] <exec> temp: 1075°F (23.9°C), dp: 1066.9°F (19.4°C), press: 101019.8 mb (-0.1 mb over 0.3 hrs), humid: 1076%, wind: 100 mph (0 km/h) @ 10127°
[06:31:37] <chromas> ^ Yep
[06:31:46] <crutchy> not everywhere but it seems to work for a lot of places
[06:31:51] <keplr> ~weather San Luis Obispo
[06:31:53] <exec> weather for 10San Luis Obispo, CA US at 2014-07-31 12:43:00 (UTC) ~ 17.8 hrs ago:
[06:31:54] <exec> temp: 1061°F (16.1°C), dp: 1059.5°F (15.3°C), press: 101008 mb (0 mb over 0.2 hrs), humid: 1094%, wind: 100 mph (0 km/h) @ 100°
[06:32:03] <crutchy> ~weather empire state building
[06:32:05] <exec> weather for 10NEW YORK CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY, United States at 2014-08-01 05:51:00 (UTC) ~ 0.7 hrs ago:
[06:32:06] <exec> temp: 1073°F (22.8°C), dp: 1064°F (17.8°C), press: 101022 mb (0 mb over 1 hrs), humid: 1073%, wind: 100 mph (0 km/h) @ 100°
[06:32:14] <keplr> Pretty cool
[06:32:24] <keplr> I wish celsius was listed first
[06:32:38] <chromas> kelvin++
[06:32:38] <Bender> karma - kelvin: 1
[06:32:40] <crutchy> its fuckn cold here. drove home from work in hail
[06:33:13] * chromas offers you some of our spare degrees
[06:33:16] <crutchy> chromas, just minus 23(?) from derg C i think
[06:33:39] * crutchy can't remember conversion but its same scale as deg c
[06:33:52] <crutchy> rankine is same scale as deg f
[06:34:12] <crutchy> oh no 73 more
[06:34:12] <chromas> is that still in use?
[06:34:16] <crutchy> or something
[06:34:20] <crutchy> dunno
[06:34:30] <crutchy> my sister's the chemistry nut
[06:34:38] <crutchy> i'm a rock ape engineer
[06:35:00] <chromas> and exec utive
[06:35:29] <keplr> So Rankine:Fahrenheit::Kelvin:Celsius
[06:36:54] <keplr> I just use SI units whenever possible, and force them on all who interact with me.
[06:37:27] <chromas> metric dollars
[06:37:49] <chromas> kilodollars, millidollars
[06:38:04] <keplr> I have some admiration for the Yen which eschews decimals.
[06:38:38] <keplr> And get rid of all the useless coins...
[06:41:55] <crutchy> we should introduce a new cryptocurrency called the ciri
[06:42:25] <crutchy> all exchanges must go through ciri
[06:43:18] <mrcoolbp> Degrees C - 273 = K I think
[06:43:20] * mrcoolbp checks
[06:43:35] <crutchy> lol i guessed 23 and then 73 :-d
[06:44:10] <mrcoolbp> yup it's 273
[06:44:14] * crutchy is more of a visual learner with numbery shit
[06:44:15] <mrcoolbp> .15
[06:45:09] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: http://www.howequipmentworks.com
[06:45:09] <monopoly> ^ 03Error 406 - Not Acceptable
[06:45:14] <mrcoolbp> lol
[06:45:20] * mrcoolbp broked monopoly again
[06:46:15] <mrcoolbp> 0 K is absolute zero, so it's easy to remember that it's wicked cold
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[06:46:31] * mrcoolbp doesn't know how he remembered the 273
[06:46:35] <crutchy> its when electrons stop acting like a female sex toy
[06:46:42] <crutchy> 0 K
[06:46:47] <mrcoolbp> exacery
[06:48:04] <crutchy> i remembered the somethingorother series using a little poem
[06:48:31] <mrcoolbp> a poem involving temp units and sex toys?
[06:48:35] * mrcoolbp is intrigued
[06:49:08] <crutchy> methane, ethane, propane, butane, pentane, hexane, heptane, octane
[06:49:14] <mrcoolbp> organics
[06:49:18] * mrcoolbp runs
[06:49:20] <crutchy> men eat poo because poo has high oxygen :-d
[06:50:31] <crutchy> there was one that my high school IT teacher had for the phases of information processing that was a good one
[06:50:47] <crutchy> ants in venice march silly routines on christmas day
[06:51:21] <crutchy> acquisition, input, validation, manipulation, storage, retrieval, output, communication, disposal
[06:51:42] <mrcoolbp> nice
[06:51:50] * mrcoolbp won't remember that in 3 minutes
[06:52:00] <mrcoolbp> pnemonics are good tho
[06:52:04] <mrcoolbp> sp?
[06:52:18] <mrcoolbp> oooh, my wife should be waking up soonh
[06:52:33] <crutchy> is she in a coma?
[06:52:44] <mrcoolbp> hope not
[06:53:19] <mrcoolbp> oh gawd, waht if she eeeez !>!?!?!>!?!
[06:54:07] <crutchy> poke her in the eye... if she grabs your nuts you know she's not in a coma
[06:54:19] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: we have F-ed up schedules (here in US both working in hospitality) she's waking up for work, I got home from $job only 1.5 hrs ago
[06:54:31] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: will do, standby
[06:54:38] * mrcoolbp OUCH!
[06:54:49] <mrcoolbp> won't do that again
[07:01:28] * mrcoolbp goes to bed
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[07:05:25] <crutchy> night mrcoolbp
[07:22:17] <arti> yes, nite nite
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[08:59:52] <crutchy> ~time chicago
[08:59:53] <exec> [Google] 3:59am Friday (CDT) - Time in Chicago, IL, USA
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[09:19:09] <Jaruzel> Is it just me, or is SN logging people out randomly and then not letting them log back in?
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[09:57:22] <arti> !idle
[09:57:22] <ciri> subgeniuskitty hasn't said a word for 4508 minutes :/
[09:57:35] <arti> .calc 4508/60
[09:57:37] <ciri> Expression: 4508/60 = 75
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[12:55:18] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:55:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 485
[12:55:46] <LaminatorX> You know, I could go for some aoffee.
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[12:56:39] <prospectacle> evening
[12:57:14] * juggs scoots around putting steaming hot mugs of coffee on everyone's desks
[12:57:57] <prospectacle> mm delicious
[12:59:15] <Konomi> codeine++
[12:59:15] <Bender> karma - codeine: 1
[12:59:18] <Konomi> freaking flu
[12:59:52] <prospectacle> flu--
[12:59:52] <Bender> karma - flu: -1
[13:00:04] <Konomi> phenylephrine++
[13:00:04] <Bender> karma - phenylephrine: 1
[13:00:50] <prospectacle> hope you took the day off work konomi
[13:01:02] <Konomi> I'm unemployed so that's not so much of an issue
[13:01:10] <Konomi> but Iimagine I'd still be working even if I did have a job
[13:01:16] <Konomi> because you need medical certificates here
[13:01:44] <Konomi> and I really hate it cause I wish people would just stay the fuck home when they get sick
[13:01:51] <prospectacle> yeah that's bullshit, make you go to the doctor when you know what you've got and just need to rest
[13:02:01] <Konomi> but they want you to see a doctor here to prove it so you cna spread it around more
[13:02:04] <Konomi> idiots
[13:02:05] <prospectacle> many doctors don't like giving medical certificates either, it's just a waste of their time
[13:02:22] <Konomi> worst part is I'm new to this area
[13:02:31] <Konomi> so I'm picking up every new varriation of flu I haven't had before
[13:02:41] <Konomi> I've been sick for like a month on and off
[13:02:47] <prospectacle> wow, maybe you do need a doctor
[13:02:49] <prospectacle> what area?
[13:02:55] <Konomi> just a new town
[13:02:57] <Konomi> I used to live very rural
[13:03:22] <Konomi> prospectacle: doctor said unless I start coughing up stuff just wait it out
[13:03:28] <juggs> at least you know it's not ebola - you'd be dead already :D Everything has an upside :D
[13:03:43] <paulej72> I can’t handle phenylephrine, makes me feel strange and did not work as good as psuedoephedrine
[13:03:44] <prospectacle> well I hope you feel better. I used to resist taking drugs, now when I'm sick I take everything, medicine, home-remedies, vitamins, whatever might possibly make me feel better sooner
[13:03:52] <prospectacle> and then just do fuck all and relax
[13:03:55] <Konomi> I read they flew the two US victums of the ebola outbreak home
[13:03:57] <Konomi> I was like
[13:03:59] <Konomi> wtfffffff
[13:04:01] <Konomi> >.<
[13:04:16] <prospectacle> wow, yeah ebola = scary
[13:04:24] <Konomi> prospectacle: me too getting sick of well being sick just loading up on the meds
[13:04:38] <Konomi> though despite how much pain killers I load up on my nose still hurts
[13:04:48] <prospectacle> yeah you gotta attack that shit from multiple angles
[13:05:07] <LaminatorX> We've had the first couple Chikugunya cases happen here in St. Louis last week. Less scary than ebola, but "Oww."
[13:05:12] <Konomi> I've been loading up on these codeine based cold tablets
[13:05:13] <prospectacle> butter-menthols + nasal spray + honey-lemon drinnk + pain-killers
[13:05:21] <Konomi> one every 6 hours makes it tolerable
[13:05:58] <prospectacle> if you're not intolerant to codeine you can also double up. cold and flu has paracetamol usually, but you can also get over the counter ibuprofne+codeine
[13:06:01] <Konomi> seems to assert itself while I sleep though so I wake up feeling like a bus hit me
[13:06:32] <prospectacle> so take both and all you're getting extra of is codeine, which isn't really dangerous, but don't double up on paracetamol or ibuprofen or you'll ruin various organs
[13:07:05] <prospectacle> also lots of water as these meds often dehydrate you.
[13:07:32] <Konomi> I have a water bottle next to my pc out of habit
[13:07:50] <prospectacle> well good luck. What else is going on?
[13:07:57] <prospectacle> I hear there's some war happening. What is it with people
[13:08:03] <Konomi> that's about it
[13:08:08] <Konomi> rural town small boring etc
[13:08:19] <prospectacle> when you do work what kind do you do?
[13:08:26] <Konomi> I'm considering coding something to clock up my processor on mouse and keyboard activity later though
[13:08:42] <Konomi> flu is messing with my head too much atm though
[13:08:57] <prospectacle> cool, to what purpose, like tracking usage, or what?
[13:09:49] <prospectacle> or you mean when the mouse or keyboard is active, the processor goes to a higher clock-rate?
[13:09:52] <Konomi> just track usage and down clock the processor after x minutes of mouse and keyboard inactivity
[13:10:05] <prospectacle> that's clever
[13:10:17] <prospectacle> everyone could use that, saves power, etc
[13:10:42] <prospectacle> could be configurable top/bottom rate
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[13:11:15] <Konomi> my last project was this
[13:11:16] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[13:11:17] <monopoly> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[13:11:18] <prospectacle> Is it hard to change the clock-rate on hte fly?
[13:12:19] <Konomi> nah just use cpufreq
[13:12:34] <juggs> umm, doesn't your OS power management already do that? I know it happens on my systems - clock gets stepped down after just a few seconds of inactivity - even have a system tray widget to watch it.
[13:13:16] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[13:13:16] <monopoly> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[13:13:18] <prospectacle> hmm, don't know if mine does, maybe. How can I check (it's windows)
[13:13:28] <Konomi> juggs: it does but when I plug my laptops into ac they tend to stay at max clock
[13:13:48] <juggs> prospectacle, no idea on windows
[13:14:02] <Konomi> windows you'd have to use cmd with um
[13:14:05] <Konomi> powercfg iirc
[13:14:38] <Konomi> windows is ineloquent for automation of this kind
[13:14:56] <Konomi> due to it lacking a robust scripting system and console commmands for it's gui components
[13:15:49] <prospectacle> don't you think oracle missed a big opportunity to have a search engine
[13:15:54] <prospectacle> "I'll just consult the oracle"
[13:16:04] * prospectacle consults the google oracle about windows cpu speeds
[13:16:17] <Konomi> all I ever think of when someoen mentions oracle is java
[13:16:23] <Konomi> then I want to go burn stuff for some reason
[13:16:27] <prospectacle> lol
[13:16:39] <juggs> Konomi, *buntu / mint has power options for on and off battery in the GUI. No doubt debian does too. Sounds like an interesting thing to hack on though just for the sake of it :D
[13:16:52] <Konomi> juggs: I prefer having something I don't have to click
[13:17:14] <juggs> me nods, whatever works
[13:17:30] <Konomi> I just want something that says hey you're using computer up goes the clock no one aroudn down it goes
[13:18:22] <juggs> ya ya - that's what happens here.
[13:18:59] <prospectacle> I'm making a typing game
[13:19:09] <Konomi> also my netbook is close to where I sit my drink
[13:19:14] <Konomi> and I'm kinda sick of it warmning it up
[13:19:17] <prospectacle> I figure it's not new, but done right, everyone could benefit from it.
[13:19:41] <Konomi> best typing game
[13:19:42] <Konomi> IRC
[13:19:55] <prospectacle> lol, it's pretty great, that's for sure
[13:20:04] <Konomi> learned all my spelling and grammar from irc
[13:20:06] <prospectacle> hard to beat, but I'll give it a shot. I've got a free weekend
[13:20:21] <Konomi> my school was pretty poor at teaching the englishes ;p
[13:21:04] <Konomi> I'm having a internal dialog with myself trying to decide if I am feeling better cause I'm getting better or the drugs started working
[13:21:06] <prospectacle> I learned to type from sierra games
[13:21:27] <Konomi> I set up hugos house of horrors in dos box recently
[13:21:34] <Konomi> you walk into a room the dog comes up to you
[13:21:40] <Konomi> "The dog has ate you all up"
[13:21:43] <Konomi> I laughed
[13:21:59] <prospectacle> lol
[13:22:18] <prospectacle> I wish there were typing adventure games still, (with better graphics, parsing, etc)
[13:22:37] <Konomi> if you like point and click broken age is a recent success of the genre
[13:22:52] <Konomi> I don't know of any typing ones though
[13:23:01] <mrcoolbp> I'm going to need a significant amount of
[13:23:03] <mrcoolbp> coffee++
[13:23:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 486
[13:23:15] <Konomi> I'd love to see a popular typing based adeventure aka HOH like but on an android
[13:23:19] <prospectacle> watching their video now
[13:23:24] <Konomi> what do you mean I have to type!!!???
[13:23:30] <Konomi> holy crap some effort there mr touch pad user
[13:23:33] <Konomi> shock horror
[13:23:59] <Konomi> I'm still bitter about the direction technology is taking if anyone can tell ;p
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[13:24:06] <juggs> morning mrcoolbp
[13:24:27] <Konomi> when I was young and messing around on computers I thought this is awesome so many people are going to want to learn how to use this so they can do more things
[13:24:28] <mrcoolbp> g'mornin juggs, scanning your email now
[13:24:37] <mrcoolbp> meh, first coffee
[13:24:44] * juggs nods
[13:24:45] <Konomi> but what happened is they just dumbed down computers so much that people din't have to learn
[13:24:49] <prospectacle> konomi, well take comfort in the fact that computers with keyboards aren't being replaced any time soon
[13:25:08] <prospectacle> and if you have a computer with a keyboard, you can write your own software if you want
[13:25:19] <Konomi> also I hate the whole smart phone tablet thing
[13:25:25] <Konomi> no one makes anything on those devices
[13:25:27] <prospectacle> hi mrcoolbp, welcome to the world
[13:25:28] <Konomi> they're like the new TC
[13:25:29] <Konomi> TV*
[13:25:53] <prospectacle> konomi, yeah but you can read soylent news while you're waiting in line
[13:26:01] <prospectacle> that's pretty sweet
[13:26:12] <Konomi> you tune in (go to the app store) and get what the creator (tv exces) choose you to use (watch)
[13:26:29] <juggs> tablets have peaked - last I read sales are flatlined or on the down.
[13:26:31] <prospectacle> konomi, i agree about app stores. I mostly use the mobile web, which is awesome. Truly we are living in the future
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[13:26:54] <prospectacle> I mean not awesome compared to the PC web, but awesome compared to, say, no mobile web
[13:27:36] <paulej72> juggs eveyone has a tablet that wants one, now we just have normal replacement schedules.
[13:28:22] <Konomi> I just need a console on my devices
[13:28:30] <Konomi> I feel like I am using an inferior computer without one
[13:28:38] <prospectacle> i got a tablet and it's pretty dumb imo. The worst of both worlds in many ways
[13:28:59] <paulej72> I find that tables are real good for palying simple games and content viewing. I don’t like using mine for typing anything unless I am real lazy
[13:29:32] <Konomi> exactly they're not computers
[13:29:35] <Konomi> they're more consumer devices
[13:29:38] <mrcoolbp> hi prospectacle
[13:29:46] <Konomi> you consime content and don't do much else with them
[13:29:51] <paulej72> I have my iPad right at my bed so I can use it irc as necessary :)
[13:30:03] <Konomi> irc is probably an exception to me ;p
[13:30:05] <prospectacle> consuming content is great, in its place
[13:30:11] <Konomi> then again irc = irssi to me so
[13:30:44] <Konomi> I personally think our species has a huge inbalance
[13:30:49] <Konomi> imbalance
[13:30:57] <prospectacle> between consumers and creators?
[13:31:01] <Konomi> there's a select percentage producing things whike the rest just consume it
[13:31:05] <mrcoolbp> I like my ipad too, good for the couch or maybe a game or two. Also nice for displaying pics. I can take pics on my iphone, if I have wifi, they instantly appear on my much larger screen for review
[13:31:12] <Konomi> the ratio is extremely out of whack
[13:31:30] <Konomi> see I use my netbook
[13:31:36] <mrcoolbp> Konami: that's a different sort of problem
[13:31:43] <Konomi> if I could flip the screen around on it and use it as a touch pad I could have the best of both worlds
[13:31:45] <mrcoolbp> I don't think ipads are to blame for that
[13:31:45] <prospectacle> konomi, for computer content that's true, but that's a pretty specific thing to create. It's probably true for each individual category of stuff that can be produced. But not necessarily true overall
[13:31:47] <Konomi> but the product doesn't exist
[13:32:00] <Konomi> tablets are purposely made to be consumer like
[13:32:11] <mrcoolbp> so are tvs
[13:32:16] <mrcoolbp> it's not a tablet problem
[13:32:27] <Konomi> tvs can't be anytjing but consumerish though
[13:32:29] <mrcoolbp> tablets are also relatively useful in the field for some
[13:32:35] <Konomi> tablets can be
[13:32:52] <prospectacle> konomi, it's true for books, raw food products, music, shoes, textiles, etc, but overall most people create something
[13:33:03] <mrcoolbp> I think what you are getting at is deeper: consumers vs creators. That's a cultural thing
[13:33:04] <juggs> paulej72, exactly. It's like the PC market - people stopped upgrading some years back - we're no longer constrained by system resource so new ones only get bought when things expire.
[13:33:16] <mrcoolbp> ^^
[13:34:12] <Konomi> I hope that becomes the norm
[13:34:20] <Konomi> I'd very much like our species to be less wasteful
[13:34:48] <prospectacle> That's very optimistic. I'm hoping we get better at re-claiming stuff
[13:35:42] <prospectacle> less wasteful would be better, of course
[13:36:12] * juggs always puts stuff on freecycle for a while before binning it.
[13:36:28] <prospectacle> yeah freecycle is great
[13:36:35] <Konomi> freecycle always makes me think free bicycle
[13:36:48] <prospectacle> they probably have those
[13:37:59] <mrcoolbp> they do
[13:39:07] <prospectacle> I got a sweet glass table work was throwing out. Now I have a dining table, and a place to write up schemes with a chalk-pen
[13:39:23] <Konomi> and plot world domination
[13:39:31] <prospectacle> exactly
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[13:41:16] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[13:41:17] <monopoly> ^ 03What If Google Was A Guy (Part 3) - YouTube
[13:47:32] <Blackmoore> mornin
[13:47:40] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[13:47:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 487
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[13:48:24] <Blackmoore> So - what does one have to do to get a @soylentnews email address?
[13:48:46] <Blackmoore> I want to put a shout out to organize - reporters-
[13:48:59] <Blackmoore> see if we can start generating our own content
[13:49:42] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:49:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 488
[13:52:51] <juggs> Blackmoore, poke mechanicjay for email - although I think he may be on hols. paulej72 or xlefay may be able to get it done also.
[13:54:53] <crutchy> xlefay has super cow powahs
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[13:56:58] <prospectacle> so what about the nyt taking an extended editorial stance on legalisation. Will it make a difference?
[13:57:17] <prospectacle> When colorado legalised I said "Within five years it will be the whole country", will i be right?
[13:57:37] <crutchy> nope. the drug war is too valuable
[13:58:08] <crutchy> for both sides
[13:58:09] <Blackmoore> thanks juggs - I'll ping mechanicjay on monday or so.
[13:58:29] <Konomi> drugs are bad m'kay
[13:58:48] <prospectacle> crutchy, but then how does one explain alcohol prohibition being repealed, and, in colorado and washington, marijuana prohibition being repealed?
[13:58:58] <Blackmoore> crutchy: there's enough drugs on the list that legalizing MJ is no big deal there
[13:59:28] <prospectacle> Blackmoore, yeah weed is so last century. It's all about ice now
[13:59:30] <crutchy> oh sorry i thought were talking drugs in general
[13:59:31] <Blackmoore> what it does do is start reducing the number of people in jail on MJ possesion.
[13:59:34] <prospectacle> and i agree that ice is some nasty business
[13:59:35] * crutchy goes back to sleep
[13:59:49] <prospectacle> later crutchy
[13:59:57] <Blackmoore> gnigh crutchy
[14:00:14] * Konomi gave up attempting sleep
[14:02:04] * prospectacle seems to work better after midnight
[14:07:27] <prospectacle> that "broken age" looks pretty good
[14:07:49] <Konomi> I'm waiting for more parts to come out ._.
[14:07:55] <prospectacle> crowd-funding++
[14:07:56] <Konomi> already played act 1
[14:08:05] <prospectacle> crowdfunding++
[14:08:05] <Bender> karma - crowdfunding: 1
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[14:15:35] <prospectacle> I can't wait for the soylentnews kickstarter one day down the road. I wonder what the project will be. Some kind of easy to set up and configure forum, perhaps
[14:16:17] <Blackmoore> Techdirt pulled in a surprising amount of cash this week on thiers
[14:18:30] <Blackmoore> http://www.beaconreader.com
[14:18:31] <monopoly> ^ 03The Net Neutrality Battle by Techdirt — Beacon
[14:18:55] <prospectacle> that's an interesting approach, funding specific reports
[14:19:18] <Blackmoore> yeah, and they are funding reporters too; and that's a big deal.
[14:19:45] <prospectacle> Could expand that maybe to specific topics, e.g. :we want to write about software patent fights, one article a week for a year
[14:19:58] <prospectacle> that way you get regular reports but it's a specific "project" and therefore suitable to kickstarter
[14:20:35] <prospectacle> blackmoore, it's good to see this sort of thing try and succeed
[14:21:26] <prospectacle> I'm very interested to see how much money comes in when soylent news starts accepting money. I mean four thousand members, probably less than half of them will put in money, but even if it's a thousand that could easily fund a full-time staff member each year
[14:22:08] <prospectacle> or part time
[14:24:07] <Popeidol> with the internet, there's usually a big difference between 'members' and 'active members'
[14:24:14] <prospectacle> true
[14:24:32] <Popeidol> it usually gets worse as a site ages though, so soylent won't have it too bad yet
[14:24:39] <prospectacle> but in this case you can always post as AC so it's a slightly more meaningful thing to sign up
[14:25:33] <Popeidol> you can always pull a mcgrew and post constantly without ever having an account
[14:28:13] <juggs> not sure I follow Popeidol. mcgrew (701)
[14:28:23] <Popeidol> wait, he has an account?
[14:28:41] <crutchy> prospectacle: re soylent kickstarter will be a funky new push bike design for nc
[14:28:50] <juggs> yup and a massive journal about his books
[14:29:06] <Popeidol> then who am I thinking of who constantly posts AC?
[14:29:21] <juggs> gewg__ perhaps?
[14:29:25] <Popeidol> ah yes
[14:29:30] <Popeidol> you're absolutely right
[14:29:48] <crutchy> probablt some guy with initials AC :-d
[14:30:00] <Popeidol> I was apparently thrown by the fact they both contain the letters g and e
[14:30:27] <prospectacle> Archibald Crowlingford
[14:30:40] <Popeidol> Aber Crombie
[14:30:48] <Popeidol> Aber Crombieandfinch
[14:30:59] <crutchy> Annabel Cruftington
[14:31:03] <prospectacle> Popeidol, when you said it I thought it was mcgrew too.
[14:31:51] <Popeidol> a fellow brother in insanity
[14:32:04] <prospectacle> great minds and all that
[14:32:17] <crutchy> great minds stink alike
[14:32:30] <Popeidol> but yes: for reference, slashdot is at about 3m members
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[14:32:49] <Popeidol> and has, at a vague estimate, 1% active?
[14:33:12] <prospectacle> makes sense. It's an old site. I've got a slashdot account, maybe 2
[14:33:19] <Popeidol> as time goes on, % of members who are active approaches zero
[14:33:24] <Popeidol> even if your site is popular
[14:33:41] <prospectacle> I guess that's why so many services have an expiry-if-inactive period
[14:33:53] <crutchy> wonder what fb stats are
[14:33:54] <prospectacle> I remember losing my hotmail account back in the day. But it was only a month
[14:34:13] <prospectacle> A month is not much
[14:34:24] <Popeidol> fb stats are pretty terrible because of the number of fake profiles being set up
[14:34:36] <prospectacle> 6 months is plenty. Especially if you get a warning at 3, 4, and 5.
[14:34:59] <prospectacle> And if they're in active, it matters little if you wait six months or one month. They're not really costing you much being a record in your DB
[14:35:22] <Popeidol> I worked with a dating site for a while, and I can tell you that 95% of new profiles that were initiated were fake
[14:35:41] <crutchy> by bots?
[14:35:54] <Popeidol> no, we were too smalltime for bots. human operators, mostly from the phillipines.
[14:36:07] <prospectacle> I guess you could have a point system. It expires after active_time * magic_number (with a min and a max applied to the result)
[14:36:16] <Popeidol> once you get big enough for bots your problem becomes much worse.
[14:37:34] <crutchy> SN is pretty easy to do with a bot, and i'm just a hobby guy
[14:38:17] <prospectacle> crutchy, it's true. I'm 95% of the accounts. It's hard work, but worth it. I'm even Popeidol and crutchy
[14:38:51] <ar> http://etbe.coker.com.au
[14:38:54] <monopoly> ^ 03More BTRFS Fun « etbe ? Russell Coker
[14:39:29] <crutchy> err... prospectacle... are you infected with the ciri virus?
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[14:40:18] <crutchy> we're training a ciri v2 atm
[14:40:27] <crutchy> called tama
[14:40:35] <prospectacle> sounds scary
[14:40:49] <crutchy> well, i have nfi what it is (ask arti) but its funny
[14:41:38] <crutchy> its a bit different to ciri
[14:45:26] <juggs> I like that it carries things :D
[15:07:10] <crutchy> like a waffle iron :-d
[15:09:21] <juggs> it was carrying a universe around at one point :D
[15:13:08] <Konomi> crutchy, sleep pick one ;p
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[15:40:41] <Blackmoore> say what?
[15:42:08] <juggs> eh? sounds like crazy talk
[15:48:46] <mrcoolbp> juggs: just finished, I'm going back to work on the graphics now
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[15:59:27] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore: PM?
[16:20:37] <prospectacle> well, later people
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[18:24:35] <mrcoolbp> did I silently DC
[18:24:37] <mrcoolbp> ?
[18:24:53] <chromas> no
[18:24:58] <chromas> You're still here
[18:25:20] <mrcoolbp> great news
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[19:09:36] <paulej72> Blackmoore: i need you to register your nick /msg NickServ REGISTER Blackmoore your@email.address
[19:09:53] <Azrael> everyone, quick, try and register the nick out form under Blackmoore
[19:14:45] <Blackmoore> hey!
[19:15:34] <stderr> It's a trap!
[19:16:04] <paulej72> no, it’s a tarp.
[19:16:20] <stderr> It's a tarp-trap!
[19:16:25] <Blackmoore> insufficent parameters?
[19:16:36] <Blackmoore> ah
[19:16:57] <Blackmoore> got it
[19:17:06] <mrcoolbp> .voice Blackmoore
[19:17:06] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v Blackmoore] by juggler
[19:17:30] <Blackmoore> and now a fully armed and operational... wait..
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[19:19:34] <Blackmoore> ok i gots a few things to get done - be back in a few
[19:21:31] <arti> !idle
[19:21:32] <ciri> Nerdfest hasn't said a word for 5072 minutes :/
[19:21:41] <arti> .calc 5072/60/24
[19:21:42] <ciri> Expression: 5072/60/24 = 3
[19:22:13] <Nerdfest> ... and now I've gone and ruined it.
[19:22:35] <mrcoolbp> lo,l
[19:22:36] <chromas> Does it pick a person at random?
[19:22:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> !idle
[19:22:48] <ciri> aqu4 hasn't said a word for 5073 minutes :/
[19:23:01] <chromas> or is it just the people it's already seen talking? 'cause _NSAKEY hasn't talked much
[19:23:27] <Nerdfest> _NSAKEY is probably only a lurker :)
[19:23:46] <chromas> poutine-- hasn't talked recently either
[19:23:46] <Bender> karma - poutine: -349
[19:24:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++ has though
[19:24:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 489
[19:29:08] <paulej72> Blackmoore: need you to run this command /msg HostServ TAKE Soylent/Staff/Editor/$account
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[19:30:06] <Blackmoore> paulej72: done
[19:30:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hate Your ISP? Maybe You Need Community Fiber - http://sylnt.us - Always-5-Years-Out
[19:30:33] <Blackmoore> ?!?! i have 5 on front page again?
[19:30:55] <mrcoolbp> lol
[19:31:02] <mrcoolbp> that's why we made ya staff there
[19:31:49] <Blackmoore> just dont ask me to edit my own stuff.. cripes - we wont hear the end of about the spelling and grammer
[19:33:18] * chromas starts bitching thread about spelling "grammar" :D
[19:35:15] <juggs> welcome on board Blackmoore :)
[19:36:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar!
[19:36:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> my grammar used to make some badass baked goods
[19:38:14] <Blackmoore> mine did too. made me love pie.
[19:38:20] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore: actually posting your own stories is generally frowned upon
[19:38:34] <Blackmoore> I expected it would be.
[19:39:07] <mrcoolbp> Naturally.
[19:39:21] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore: let me know when you want to play around on dev
[19:39:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, so don't do it more than two or three times a day.
[19:39:40] * mrcoolbp whacks TMB
[19:39:51] * TheMightyBuzzard is a bad influence
[19:40:31] <Blackmoore> hehe
[19:40:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i must be getting old. my keyboard came with some nifty stickers and i can't think of anything i want to stick them on.
[19:41:08] <mrcoolbp> he's funny though, so we keep him around
[19:41:14] <Blackmoore> you have no idea. I'm a father for 4.. we always joke that i'm the bad example
[19:41:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> Blackmoore, it teaches them critical thinking skills. like do not listen to daddy when he says to bite the dog back if it bit you.
[19:42:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> and telling mommy that those jeans make her butt look big is not a way to make her happy, no matter what daddy says.
[19:43:07] <Blackmoore> :P
[19:43:25] <Blackmoore> my youngest bit a cat once..
[19:43:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha!
[19:43:34] <Blackmoore> just once
[19:44:05] <mrcoolbp> some you learn the easy way...
[19:44:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> found out they turn into an angry ball of fur, teeth, and claws eh?
[19:44:29] <Blackmoore> he got off easy - just a swipe.
[19:44:48] <Blackmoore> cat reailzed he was a wee
[19:44:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep
[19:45:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> most of my cats wouldn't even extend claws for that but one of them would do a tazmanian devil impression upon the one foolish enough to bite him
[19:45:54] <arti> lol the cat
[19:46:02] <arti> *chomp* AAARRGH
[19:47:42] <Blackmoore> and well his mommy get's to hear about her but from step daddy. I dont even need to go there :P
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[19:51:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, i have four buttons on this keyboard with nothing assigned for them to do and i can't think of anything good besides maybe a disco button
[19:51:41] <chromas> sound board
[19:51:57] <chromas> "cha-ching!" "boom!"
[19:52:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm thinking a foghorn and fart noises myself
[19:53:00] <Blackmoore> drum synth.
[19:53:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> afk
[19:53:46] <chromas> You can add capslock and dumlock to the list of free keys
[19:54:59] <paulej72> bacon++ button
[19:54:59] <Bender> karma - bacon: 242
[19:55:20] <paulej72> !grab button
[19:57:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, not a bad idea
[20:16:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab
[20:16:21] <Bender> grab <nick>
[20:16:22] <ar> coffee--
[20:16:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 488
[20:16:29] <ar> !grab Bender
[20:16:29] <Bender> I don't know what Bender said, so I can't quote them!
[20:16:35] <ar> hehe
[20:17:13] <Blackmoore> !grab Bender
[20:17:13] <Bender> I don't know what Bender said, so I can't quote them!
[20:17:14] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: now you need a way for it to pick a nick
[20:17:52] <Blackmoore> hehe I'll have to not abuse that..
[20:18:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, nah. i'll just let it paste '!grab ' for me
[20:18:05] <mrcoolbp> !grab Blackmoore
[20:18:05] <Bender> Added quote 214
[20:18:30] <chromas> !grab juggler
[20:18:30] <Bender> Added quote 215
[20:18:37] <chromas> !quote -1
[20:18:37] <Bender> Quote -1 - <juggler> Alberto--
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[20:19:45] <Blackmoore> !quote 213
[20:19:45] <Bender> Quote 213 - <mrcoolbp> aw thank fuck it's burning again
[20:19:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could have my very own coffee++ button
[20:19:58] <mrcoolbp> rofl
[20:20:50] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: is that a global shortcut or is it in hexchat or ii or whatever you're in?
[20:21:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, global. s'actually a hotkey assigned to run an xmacro script
[20:22:06] <chromas> neat
[20:22:20] <chromas> scripting++
[20:22:20] <Bender> karma - scripting: 1
[20:24:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could have just as easily set it to run mpg123 $HOME/Tunes/Disco\ Inferno.mp3
[20:24:52] <chromas> just found a keyshortcut I had set up to toggle line input mute in amixer because pulseaudio doesn't do that
[20:25:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, was unaware of that
[20:25:28] <chromas> at least, I couldn't find a way in pulse
[20:25:36] <chromas> could be kde's mixer
[20:25:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> kde = the devil
[20:26:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> openbox ftw
[20:26:47] <chromas> Yeah but I need something to occupy my rams and megahertz
[20:27:09] * chromas needs to go on a desktop-seeking journey
[20:27:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> true, can't have em getting lazy on you
[20:27:27] <chromas> idle hands spend time at the genitals
[20:27:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab chromas
[20:27:39] <Bender> Added quote 216
[20:28:03] <Blackmoore> *blink*
[20:28:32] <Blackmoore> Well i guess we knlw whos got the good Porn..
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[20:28:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab Blackmoore
[20:28:56] <Bender> Added quote 217
[20:29:29] <chromas> fastest !grab in the east
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[20:30:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, i need a disco button
[20:30:26] <cykros> weee i made an animated radar weather map for use at my terminal
[20:30:38] <cykros> converts radar images to ascii with img2txt :-)
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[20:31:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> wow, that's pretty ghetto
[20:32:00] <chromas> then loads them as maps for nethack
[20:36:31] <Blackmoore> for nethack?!
[20:36:42] <Blackmoore> my god man..
[20:36:50] <chromas> or some other text-mode game
[20:36:57] <chromas> um
[20:37:07] <chromas> farmer's daughter? that don't haz maps
[20:37:40] <chromas> maybe that one people keep mentioning around here
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[20:44:46] <ar> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com
[20:45:51] <chromas> systèmectl start mower
[20:51:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Validates "Impossible" Space Drive's Thrust - http://sylnt.us - it-shouldn't-work-but-does
[20:51:39] <arti> ding, propulsion's ready
[20:54:18] * SirFinkus begins strapping microwaves to his desk chair
[20:54:25] <SirFinkus> that's how it works right?
[20:54:34] <Blackmoore> I think that's right
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[20:55:11] <Blackmoore> I think i need to lodge something in the lock to make it think the door is closed
[20:55:23] <SirFinkus> ahh, noted
[20:55:30] * chromas sets his drive to popcorn
[20:57:49] <Blackmoore> https://www.youtube.com
[20:57:50] <monopoly> ^ 03The Muppets: Cårven Der Pümpkîn - YouTube
[20:58:06] <Blackmoore> eh wrong one
[20:58:07] <Blackmoore> https://www.youtube.com
[20:58:08] <monopoly> ^ 03The Muppets Popcorn HQ Music Video - YouTube
[20:58:12] <Blackmoore> that's it
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[20:59:43] <chromas> Jean Michel Jarre
[21:00:38] * chromas has never seen muppets outside of sesame street a hundred years ago
[21:04:30] * chromas also learns of Gershon Kingsley
[21:13:31] * arti learns of Crom
[21:21:53] <Blackmoore> well I'm glad to have made your day :)
[21:24:38] * arti likes the swedish chef
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[22:20:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - George Will Says Something Sane, Fox Hosts Freak Out - http://sylnt.us - Huddled-Masses
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[22:29:57] <Blackmoore> Al right g'night folks - have a good weekend
[22:31:09] <crutchy> night. you too
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[22:37:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, crutchy
[22:50:48] <arti> g'day crutchy
[22:55:35] <mrcoolbp> g'day cruthah!
[23:04:45] <crutchy> mornin folks
[23:07:43] <crutchy> ~queue
[23:07:45] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 15
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[23:22:12] <crutchy> what's new?
[23:23:40] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore finanly joined staff
[23:23:48] juggs is now known as juggs|afk
[23:23:52] <crutchy> cool
[23:24:00] <crutchy> as an editor?
[23:25:45] <crutchy> did you have to use a jedi mind trick to convince him?
[23:26:28] <mrcoolbp> He's going to join the editors team, but I think he'd like to look into the idea of original content
[23:26:42] <mrcoolbp> as for the second question: "these are not the answers you are looking for"
[23:26:48] * mrcoolbp waves hand
[23:26:52] <crutchy> lol
[23:27:01] * crutchy obeys
[23:28:03] * mrcoolbp puts lightsaber away
[23:28:04] * crutchy wishes he could use jedi mind tricks on his kids
[23:28:12] <mrcoolbp> that would be nice
[23:28:36] <crutchy> "you want to clean up your room"
[23:29:12] <crutchy> "you want to eat all of your breakfast without poking your sister in the ear"
[23:34:31] <mrcoolbp> yeah that's not happening sorry.
[23:34:47] * mrcoolbp has enough padawans as it is.
[23:34:55] <mrcoolbp> much as I'd like to take you under my x-wing
[23:35:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> and anyway, how dare you infringe upon anyone's right to annoy a sibling. it's sacrosanct.
[23:38:12] <crutchy> my attempts at infringement are futile
[23:39:53] <crutchy> i'm not much into x-wings... i'm more of an intrepid class starship guy
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[23:40:43] <crutchy> my jedi master is captain janeway
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