#Soylent | Logs for 2014-07-25
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[00:03:17] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: looking now
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[00:11:28] <mrcoolbp> TMB: agreed
[00:11:34] * mrcoolbp is going to assasinate comcast
[00:12:34] <arti> it sucks here in the states
[00:12:43] <arti> with regards to internet, the monopolies
[00:15:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, you still doing stuff on dev?
[00:15:44] <paulej72> I am going to deploy master
[00:16:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, nod nod
[00:16:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> figured i'd ask so we didn't both end up running it at the same time and finding out the fun way what that would do
[00:17:13] * mrcoolbp pictures atom bomb test footage
[00:18:34] <paulej72> done
[00:24:10] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: you killed all the fun new stuff?
[00:24:58] <paulej72> no it is all on dev. We have it all merged on master :)
[00:25:43] <mrcoolbp> oh jeez, clicked on the wrong favicon
[00:26:45] <mrcoolbp> sweet, I can haz all black theme
[00:27:09] * mrcoolbp emails xlefay
[00:27:40] <arti> okay, on to ciri configuration
[00:29:29] <paulej72> arti: have ciri reverse the sentence she is about to send, it might be more intelegent
[00:30:01] <arti> intelegent
[00:30:07] <arti> i see what you did there
[00:30:48] <arti> mainframe os seem pretty solid
[00:33:42] * mrcoolbp thinks arti has no SHIFT key
[00:34:02] <arti> years of linux use
[00:34:28] <arti> shouldn't formatting be done client side?
[00:37:42] <arti> aha!
[00:37:54] <arti> MRCOOLBP IS THIS AN IMPROVEMENT?
[00:38:00] <mrcoolbp> no
[00:38:09] <arti> :P
[00:38:33] <mrcoolbp> = )
[00:38:52] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: any updates on the subscription code?
[00:39:22] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: the stores could be setup quickly, kinda waiting on xlefay to help figure out pricing structure
[00:39:44] * mrcoolbp dislikes zazzle's interface but they have better clothing based on reviews
[00:40:07] <mrcoolbp> I'll probably end up having two different stores acutally
[00:40:32] <mrcoolbp> I have the artwork 80% for the stores, and have products up on each
[00:41:31] <mrcoolbp> I'd like to figure out a better option for "premium" items (with higher "donation" amount) rather then just calling them "Platinum Edition" and not really having anything new on them
[00:41:47] <mrcoolbp> so that's where I stand with that
[00:41:59] * mrcoolbp goes back to working on RL job
[00:44:36] <arti> !seen bender
[00:44:38] <ciri> arti, bender is right here!
[00:46:41] <arti> ciri should ignore bender for now
[00:49:35] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, no :-/
[00:49:41] <mrcoolbp> = (
[00:50:25] * arti shares peanutbrittle
[00:50:41] <arti> i have some trail mix to help get the stuff out of your teeth
[00:50:46] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: want me to DDOS 400tb your employer?
[00:51:02] <arti> you're a botnet herder?
[00:51:14] <mrcoolbp> uh...yeah.
[00:51:19] <mrcoolbp> no. = (
[00:51:34] * mrcoolbp is a staff-herder
[00:51:44] <paulej72> NCommander: we now have two new themes and new topic and zoo icons and updated logos
[00:51:50] <mrcoolbp> ^
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[00:52:21] <mrcoolbp> paulej72 is a magic man
[00:52:22] <mrcoolbp> https://www.youtube.com
[00:53:08] * mrcoolbp rocks out
[00:53:16] <paulej72> not available on iPad
[00:53:19] <mrcoolbp> = (
[00:53:32] <arti> tablets are pretty cool
[00:53:35] <arti> ipads espeically so
[00:53:46] <arti> s/espeically/especially/
[00:53:46] <SedBot2> <arti> ipads especially so
[00:53:58] * mrcoolbp likes his mini okay
[00:54:12] <arti> with the right software it's handy
[00:54:32] <SpallsHurgenson> that video is so 70s I'm getting high just watching it
[00:54:49] <mrcoolbp> that guitar player is wearing a karate gee, it's awesome.
[00:54:58] <mrcoolbp> gee (sp?)
[00:55:28] <SpallsHurgenson> gi
[00:55:32] <mrcoolbp> ah yes.
[00:55:36] <mrcoolbp> thx.
[00:55:59] <SpallsHurgenson> pedantic spelling corrections are my specialty :)
[00:56:20] <paulej72> bad spelling is mine
[00:56:34] <arti> lowercase text is mine
[00:56:48] <SpallsHurgenson> IT COULD BE WORSE
[00:57:27] <arti> YeS iT cOUld Be
[00:57:40] <paulej72> the first computer i used was a apple ii clone. all caps
[00:58:15] * mrcoolbp shudders
[00:58:25] <SpallsHurgenson> hrmph. Apple ][, if you would :)
[00:58:49] <paulej72> to hard to write that on an iPad
[00:59:33] <paulej72> can't use exec because the tilde is too had to get to
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[01:04:44] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, I hate the ipad keyboard
[01:06:12] <paulej72> ios8 will have support for third party keyboards.
[01:06:55] <SpallsHurgenson> so I have heard
[01:07:25] <SpallsHurgenson> on the one hand, yay! on the other hand... I dread all the apps which will use custom keyboards that are even worse than the current one :)
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[01:10:42] * juggs is too tired - off for a kip. later all.
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[01:11:19] <mrcoolbp> later
[01:11:43] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: what app do you use for IRC?
[01:12:08] <paulej72> colloquy
[01:12:21] * mrcoolbp buys that
[01:13:24] <paulej72> not many good ios irc apps, but I did not pony up for the non free ones
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[01:19:48] <SpallsHurgenson> Colloquy is pretty good.
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[01:21:17] <SpallsHurgenson> feature-wise, I think it's actually better than the IRC client I'm using on my desktop :)
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[01:25:01] <SpallsHurgenson> I suspect that rand just MIGHT be having connecting issues
[01:25:04] * Bytram thinks he might consider changing his nick from rand__ to random__
[01:25:24] <Bytram> nah... he can connect just fine! he just can't stay connected. :(
[01:26:17] <SpallsHurgenson> well, don't worry; I have the staple-gun and hot-glue ready the next time he joins :)
[01:27:15] * Bytram cranks up the PSI on his air compressor and prepares to aim his nail gun
[01:27:20] <mrcoolbp> Violence is like duct tape, if it didnt' work, you didn't use enough.
[01:28:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, that was my sig when we first went live
[01:28:14] <mrcoolbp> I think that's where I saw it
[01:28:29] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: g'day!
[01:28:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, heya
[01:28:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, it's yoink-ware licensed
[01:29:00] <mrcoolbp> sweet
[01:29:03] <Bytram> question for ya... just where/when in the process of submitting a story do you convert utf-8 chars?
[01:29:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, sort of, why do you ask?
[01:29:49] <Bytram> I forgot to check the source html as I pushed those stories through and istr your entioning that you convert things before you write them to the db??
[01:30:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, things over the 0xff codepoint
[01:30:17] <Bytram> iow... what do you do and when do you do it?
[01:30:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> �
[01:30:32] * Bytram could reverese-engineer it eventually
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[01:31:08] <SpallsHurgenson> did you just "bobby'); droptable" soylentnews?
[01:31:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, something along the lines of sprintf("&#x%x;", ord($character));
[01:32:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> should in fact essentially be exactly that.
[01:32:45] <Bytram> so, I'm JoeRandomUser (JRU) and I submit a story which includes all kinds of typed-in and named/hex/decimal character entities...
[01:32:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> or rather return sprintf("&#x%x;", ord($character));
[01:33:08] <Bytram> JRU previews what they entered and it looks good. did you do anything to it yet?
[01:33:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> entities go through just like normal. yeah everything that's done to stuff it into the db is done to the preview but not the edit box.
[01:34:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, in theory, WYSIWYG on the preview
[01:35:03] <Bytram> hmmm, but I haven't saved anything, yet. I just typed some stuff and hit preview. As far as I know, nothing's been written to the db yet, right?
[01:35:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg. never bothered to find out.
[01:35:30] * mrcoolbp needs a new job, maybe selling cars, though it may crush his soul
[01:36:12] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: I see a new nexus coming... usedcars.soylentnews.com
[01:36:22] <mrcoolbp> lol
[01:36:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, try door to door generic perfume/cologne.
[01:37:06] <mrcoolbp> oooh, that sounds terrible!
[01:37:16] <SpallsHurgenson> every job should allow you a three-hour break to sit on the beach
[01:37:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i got hungry enough i was ready to eat the boxes.
[01:37:28] * SpallsHurgenson wonders what it would take to get this passed into law
[01:37:43] <mrcoolbp> I'd be happy if I got any break
[01:37:50] * mrcoolbp is an exempt employee = (
[01:38:00] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: you might find a little opposition in states like Kansas
[01:38:21] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: exempt from getting paid for OT /
[01:38:27] <mrcoolbp> yup
[01:38:42] <SpallsHurgenson> Bytram: if no beach is available, the businesses will be responsible for creating a beach :)
[01:38:52] <Bytram> yup, I remember when I first got promoted to exempt; my pay went DOWN 20% / week
[01:39:13] <SpallsHurgenson> completely unrelated to anything else but equally neat and amusing: http://www.youtube.com
[01:39:13] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03256.964ms.14)[0]: 031966 prediction of the home computer - YouTube
[01:39:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> beaches suck. i get sand all in my buttcrack.
[01:39:17] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: that might work... or perfecting FTL travel, I'd settle for that!
[01:39:21] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: I did get a pay increase, but I work way to much
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[01:39:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> can we substitute a nearby pub if we're anti-beach?
[01:39:56] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: your using it wrong; turn over!
[01:40:31] <SpallsHurgenson> how about a cabana bar on the beach?
[01:40:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, it's the beach. you could walk around on your hands and sand would still defy gravity to jump up your crack.
[01:40:37] <Bytram> btw, fwiw, boron is getting rebooted to clear up some cache issues
[01:40:44] <mrcoolbp> SpallHurgenson: that's actually pretty accurate
[01:41:28] * Bytram remembers a week's vacation in Jamaica where the place had exactly that setup.
[01:41:38] <SpallsHurgenson> the women spends the money that her husband earns :)
[01:42:12] <mrcoolbp> lol
[01:42:20] <SpallsHurgenson> I like how every application apparently requires its own monitor
[01:42:34] <SpallsHurgenson> and apparently keyboards hadn't yet been invented in 1966
[01:42:38] <Konomi> I had some fun last night
[01:42:50] <Konomi> my friend was showing me siri on his iphone
[01:43:00] <Konomi> you don't have to unlock the phone to use it
[01:43:05] <Konomi> so I hold down his home
[01:43:13] <Konomi> ask a question then it's got optons down the bottom
[01:43:23] <Konomi> I find I can check his phones contacts adn other shit without even unlocking the phone
[01:43:26] <Konomi> thanks siri
[01:43:32] <mrcoolbp> yeah I disabled that
[01:43:34] <SpallsHurgenson> that's configurable, iirc
[01:43:34] * Bytram notes that Siri is a tool that Apple uses to convince you to send it even more information about yourself
[01:43:48] <Popeidol> SpallsHurgenson is right, you can change what siri is allowed to access while locked
[01:43:51] <Konomi> you mean you just have to turn siri off to have it secure xD ?
[01:44:05] <Bytram> "commoditize your complement"
[01:44:08] <Konomi> doesn't seem to e a default though
[01:44:12] <Konomi> and you know end users
[01:44:18] <Popeidol> same as I have it set so my day's calendar appointments are visible without unlocking
[01:44:42] <SpallsHurgenson> my phone is terminally dumb
[01:45:07] <Konomi> so it at least has a terminal?
[01:45:09] <mrcoolbp> I also recommend disabling the "Control Center" on lock screen. Otherwise if someone steals your iPhone, they can turn on airplane mode (without unlocking it) rendering find my iShiny useless
[01:45:14] <Konomi> might be useful
[01:45:32] <Popeidol> mrcoolbp: they can already turn your phone off though
[01:45:35] <Konomi> yeah I was able to go into the settings from siri too
[01:45:36] <Popeidol> using the power button
[01:45:45] <mrcoolbp> Popeidol, hmm
[01:45:56] <Konomi> or I could just take a hammer to it
[01:45:59] <Konomi> abnd do the worlf a favour
[01:46:00] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but why steal an iphone if you never turn it on, Mr Anderson?
[01:46:25] <Popeidol> steal phone, turn off, boot directly into recovery mode, reinstall iOS
[01:46:49] <Konomi> I've also noticed touch screens turn people into click and access people
[01:46:52] <Popeidol> there's no requirement for it to come back online before it's nice and clean.
[01:46:55] <Konomi> vs actually doing anything productive
[01:46:57] <SpallsHurgenson> in which point find-my-iThing is useless too, isn't it?
[01:47:32] <Popeidol> SpallsHurgenson: I've had great luck with using it to find where in the house it is, or which restaurant it was left in
[01:48:01] <Popeidol> SpallsHurgenson: and recovered at least one stolen iphone 4, but that was back when it was new and thieves weren't expecting it
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[01:49:10] <Bytram> afk
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[01:50:17] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but if it can be disabled by reformatting the device it isn't a useful anti-theft device, so I wouldn't worry that much if it could be disabled without unlocking the device
[01:51:08] <Konomi> but yeah I was none to impresed with siri
[01:51:14] <Konomi> we asked it what is the distance to mars
[01:51:20] <Konomi> it gave it in astronomical units
[01:51:27] <Konomi> he then asked what's the distance to mars in miles
[01:51:34] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, Siri is crap, agreed
[01:51:41] <Konomi> abnd it linked us to a wikipedia page detailing astronomical units...
[01:53:17] <Konomi> the only slightly impressive thing was it taking into account a previous question toanswer a question after it
[01:53:30] <Konomi> also my non tech savy friend was pretty bad at trying to address it like a human
[01:53:39] <Konomi> which resulted in the most useless answers if any
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[01:56:44] <Bytram> hmmm: http://feedproxy.google.com
[01:56:49] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 031.119sec. 14/ 12http://www.cnet.com/news/crows-officially-smarter-than-children/#ftag=CAD590a51e 14 )[2]: 03Crows: Officially smarter than children - CNET
[01:57:45] <SpallsHurgenson> but are they as tasty?
[01:58:04] * Bytram would not know - has never eaten crow!
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[02:01:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Research Shows Oceans Vital For Possibility of Alien Life - http://sylnt.us - more-water-is-more-good || Youtube Star Sued For Copyright Infringment - http://sylnt.us - should-have-stuck-with-vine || Conditions Inside Giant Planets Experimentally Recreated - http://sylnt.us - spoiler-alert:-dense || Germany is the Most Energy Efficient - 1 more
[02:01:29] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03837.289ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/lwjafoh 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | Research Shows Oceans Vital For Possibility of Alien Life
[02:05:05] <Bytram> looks like Bender went on a bender :/
[02:05:40] <mrcoolbp> likely from the boron restart
[02:06:24] <Bytram> btw, if anyone noticed some bad moderation, pls send me a link... I just got mod points.
[02:06:45] <Bytram> ~define inflexion
[02:06:46] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: hmm
[02:06:49] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Inflexion: In grammar, inflection or inflexion is the modification of a word to express different grammatical categories such as tense, mood, voice, aspect, person, number, gender and case. The inflection of ver...
[02:07:22] <Bytram> brb... food
[02:07:31] <mrcoolbp> bytram: http://soylentnews.org
[02:07:33] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03344.39ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/kf3o336 14 )[0]: 03SoylentNews Comments | US Supreme Court to Rule on Warrantless Searches
[02:07:46] <mrcoolbp> he sent me an email, but I figure that could go either way
[02:08:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, email bug
[02:11:56] <Bytram> back
[02:12:01] <Bytram> megoes to look
[02:12:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> here's hoping it's gmail's fuckup
[02:15:41] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: a comment from april? it shouldn't be overtrated though... adjusted.
[02:16:10] <mrcoolbp> I know, but I'm sure he'd appreciate the bone-throwin'
[02:16:39] <mrcoolbp> I thought it was Inflection
[02:16:49] <mrcoolbp> ~define Inflection
[02:16:52] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Inflection: In grammar, inflection or inflexion is the modification of a word to express different grammatical categories such as tense, mood, voice, aspect, person, number, gender and case. The inflection of ver...
[02:16:59] <mrcoolbp> oh
[02:17:02] * mrcoolbp can't read
[02:17:16] * mrcoolbp is in super speed parse mode
[02:18:05] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: I dunno; may be too old. I tried twice to upmod and... nothin' happened
[02:18:16] <mrcoolbp> weird
[02:18:33] <mrcoolbp> well we tried
[02:19:35] <mrcoolbp> guys, NCommander is away, paulej72 is at the helm, or thineselves can pester myself
[02:19:40] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: do you know if there's a limit on how far back we can go and moderate comments? I see the control displayed, but when I tried to moderate... no error mesages I could see, but nothing happened, either.
[02:20:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, 60k days currently
[02:20:14] <Bytram> if there *is* a limit, then w should not be offering the moderation controls to the user.
[02:20:36] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: strange. maybe it's a result of our having issues with boron?
[02:21:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be or you may have already modded that comment.
[02:21:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> or hell, it could be a legit bug. hell if i know.
[02:22:59] <mrcoolbp> he has not modded that comment
[02:23:23] <mrcoolbp> only one mod on that comment
[02:23:26] <Bytram> it's not showing any moderation except for the initial one: http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:26] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03193.136ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/kf3o336 14 )[0]: 03SoylentNews Comments | US Supreme Court to Rule on Warrantless Searches
[02:23:44] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: thanks for the confirmation!
[02:23:50] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: do you have super-sec-level on prod?
[02:24:11] <SpallsHurgenson> 164.27 years... that might not be enough time for me to moderate conversations
[02:24:25] * SpallsHurgenson really likes to think things through before assigning mod points :)
[02:24:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm. random weirdness that i'll no doubt look into when i give a look at separating the comment lock from the actually archiving things.
[02:26:52] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[02:26:53] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03620.652ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/o8cmbuv 14 )[1]: 03Putin: Crack Tor for me and I'll make you a MILLIONAIRE The Register
[02:37:15] * mrcoolbp changes his iPhone keyboard to Portugese to txt one of his employees
[02:37:16] <SpallsHurgenson> <mutter mutter> iOS devices need a "permanently trust this computer" option
[02:37:34] <mrcoolbp> lol. timing.
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[02:51:21] <chromas> ChanFix--
[02:51:22] <Bender> karma - chanfix: -1
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[02:59:22] <mrcoolbp> http://thegreatgeekmanual.com
[02:59:27] <ciri> 14Title(03UTF-8 14/ 03999.008ms. 14/ 12http://thegreatgeekmanual.com/blog/picture-of-the-week-verizon-check 14 )[0]: 03The Great Geek Manual Picture of the Week: Verizon Check
[02:59:28] <mrcoolbp> in case you haven't seen it
[03:10:00] * SpallsHurgenson looks at the picture but is too tired to read the story.
[03:10:18] <SpallsHurgenson> please summarize in three words or less :)
[03:10:27] <mrcoolbp> SpallsHurgenson: it's Randal Munroe
[03:10:31] <mrcoolbp> he's awesome
[03:11:08] <SpallsHurgenson> that's five words; my brain was only prepared for three! Buffer overflow!
[03:11:19] <mrcoolbp> ah shit
[03:11:27] * mrcoolbp restarts SpallsHurgensons
[03:11:46] <mrcoolbp> s/s//
[03:11:46] <SedBot2> <mrcoolbp> retarts SpallsHurgensons
[03:11:49] <mrcoolbp> lol
[03:12:01] <SpallsHurgenson> *beep* Checking RAM... 1 KB.... 2KB.... 3KB....
[03:12:09] <mrcoolbp> fuck I hate this par
[03:12:10] <mrcoolbp> t
[03:12:18] <mrcoolbp> verbose boot off
[03:12:35] <SpallsHurgenson> incidentally, they say the human brain's capacity is measured in petabytes :)
[03:12:42] <SpallsHurgenson> 7KB.... 8KB...
[03:12:52] <mrcoolbp> damnit
[03:12:58] * mrcoolbp forgets the correct syntad
[03:13:02] <mrcoolbp> syntax*
[03:13:05] * mrcoolbp is tired
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[03:24:15] <arti> :D
[03:26:22] <SpallsHurgenson> there comes a time in every man's life when he must wear pants
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[03:26:46] * arti golf claps
[03:27:23] * mrcoolbp moves in general direction of bed
[03:27:26] <paulej72> ~time Alaska
[03:27:28] <exec> [Google] 7:27pm Thursday (AKDT) - Time in Alaska, USA
[03:27:33] <NCommander> I ordered pizza from the internet
[03:27:38] <NCommander> Life is awesome
[03:27:39] <arti> ~time juipter
[03:27:41] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Friday, 25 July 2014, 03:27:40 am
[03:27:48] <NCommander> ~time hammer
[03:27:49] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Friday, 25 July 2014, 03:27:49 am
[03:27:57] <arti> ncommander, i usually do that when really really loaded
[03:28:09] <arti> that way my only personal interaction is with the delivery guy
[03:28:11] <NCommander> Its raining cats and dogs here
[03:28:18] <arti> sounds ruff.
[03:28:35] <NCommander> Well, where do you think Alaskan Malamutes comes from?
[03:28:36] <paulej72> NCommander: how long does it take to get a pizza delivered it Alaska
[03:28:53] <arti> does it arrive by bear courier?
[03:29:00] <paulej72> s/it/to/
[03:29:01] <SedBot2> <paulej72> NCommander: how long does to take to get a pizza delivered it Alaska
[03:29:02] <NCommander> paulej72, depends how long it takes for the plane to depart
[03:29:08] <arti> lol
[03:29:13] * NCommander notes thats actually true in the bush
[03:29:22] <NCommander> There's abush plane pizza delivery service
[03:29:25] <arti> they have air delivery in the bush?
[03:29:28] <arti> wow
[03:29:34] <arti> i thought they used snakes for everything
[03:29:42] <NCommander> Pizza $20 USD, Delivery Fee: $500 USD
[03:30:10] <NCommander> arti, http://www.cbsnews.com
[03:30:11] <ciri> 14Title(03"UTF-8 14/ 03181.884ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/pe8yogz 14 )[0]: 03Alaskans Savor 'Pie In The Sky' - CBS News
[03:30:22] <paulej72> hell that would be cheap
[03:30:23] * arti associates bush with aussies
[03:30:33] <arti> and women
[03:30:37] <paulej72> kavik
[03:31:15] <paulej72> like my women bush free
[03:31:23] <NCommander> ....
[03:31:40] <arti> ...
[03:31:49] <NCommander> Can I please get the part of my brain response for mental images lobotomized please?
[03:31:59] <arti> lobster anus
[03:32:14] <arti> btw what kind of pizza did you get?
[03:32:14] <NCommander> ..................
[03:32:23] <NCommander> arti, 6 cheese, cause that's what sounded good
[03:32:23] <arti> have you seen japanese pizzas?
[03:34:43] <paulej72> arti: do they put bush on them?
[03:34:53] <arti> and eel!
[03:35:14] * arti hasn't met a pizza he didn't like, he just likes some more than others
[03:39:04] <NCommander> arti, I just wish I could get anchovies or smoked salmon on pizza easier
[03:39:20] <arti> supply your own?
[03:39:29] <arti> i've had some good copper river salmon
[03:39:32] <arti> :O~
[03:39:43] * arti doesn't mind either of those things
[03:50:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Which Books Make it to Your List? - http://sylnt.us - so-many-books-too-little-time
[03:50:52] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03852.858ms. 14/ 12http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/07/24/2141238&from=rss 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | Which Books Make it to Your List?
[03:53:10] <arti> bah
[03:53:22] * arti investigates
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[06:27:34] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:27:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 456
[06:27:39] <arti> g'day
[06:27:46] <crutchy> hi arti
[06:27:58] <crutchy> what's new?
[06:28:00] <arti> how's the parental unit?
[06:28:15] <crutchy> doing ok
[06:28:38] <arti> went to scope out a new pad with good internet service, they sure know how to make it look good online
[06:29:16] <crutchy> was it photoshop towers apartments?
[06:29:33] <arti> similar to fat person selfies on dating sites
[06:29:58] <crutchy> phat towers
[06:30:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Blacklisted - http://sylnt.us - peeking-up-the-skirt-of-goverment
[06:30:50] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03695.969ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/k5otryx 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | Blacklisted
[06:31:06] <arti> hmm
[06:31:19] <arti> i've added bender to ciri as a bot
[06:31:24] <crutchy> gotta disappear again for few hrs. back later tonight
[06:31:26] <arti> and have a rule to ignore bots
[06:31:27] <crutchy> oh?
[06:31:35] <arti> yet that still gets executed
[06:31:45] <crutchy> ciri likes bender
[06:31:49] <arti> indeed
[06:31:57] <crutchy> catcha laters
[06:32:01] <crutchy> ~time melbourne
[06:32:02] <arti> alright, bring some beers while you're out, ya?
[06:32:02] <exec> [Google] 4:32pm Friday (EST) - Time in Melbourne VIC, Australia
[06:33:37] <chromas> arti: sometimes it doesn't do a url shortening. Is there a rule for it?
[06:33:52] <arti> http only? mebbbe
[06:34:02] <arti> i need to compile in support for tls
[06:34:24] <chromas> The Bender post-before-last
[06:34:52] <chromas> it has the from-rss url
[06:35:02] <arti> wonder what borked
[06:35:06] <arti> also, hi :D
[06:35:11] <chromas> I've seen it a few times
[06:35:14] <chromas> hey :-)
[06:35:36] <chromas> I set monopoly to do https urls in here until you get it added :D
[06:35:59] <arti> oh, let me disable it since monopoly is back
[06:36:11] <chromas> Nah yours is fancier
[06:36:50] <arti> it's also buggy as heck
[06:37:20] <chromas> well I haven't seen it spam the channel by reading its own output yet
[06:37:27] <arti> hahaha
[06:37:38] * monopoly whistles nonchalantly
[06:38:09] <chromas> though that was back when it was a kvirc script
[06:39:35] <arti> okay, should work now
[06:39:38] <chromas> Somebody mentioned supybot a while back; I think it was Alberto. It has many of the same functions as Bender
[06:39:46] <chromas> quotes, karma and stuff
[06:39:48] <arti> helps if i modify the right script
[06:40:35] <arti> trigger length is urls 50 characters or longer, and the above is 67
[06:40:55] <chromas> ah; I hadn't thought of that
[06:41:05] <chromas> Although, the link is already in the channel by then :)
[06:41:17] <arti> yes, and it shouldn't be firing off for bender anyhoo
[06:41:55] <chromas> Bender: s/ki/i/
[06:41:55] <SedBot2> <chromas> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Blacklisted - http://sylnt.us - peeing-up-the-skirt-of-goverment
[06:41:56] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03682.72ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/k5otryx 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | Blacklisted
[06:42:16] <arti> let me add sedbot2 to that
[06:42:20] <arti> and monopoly
[06:42:48] <chromas> Could use http://sylnt.us for shortening
[06:42:48] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03222.539ms.14)[0]: 03YOURLS - Your Own URL Shortener | http://sylnt.us
[06:43:19] <arti> bender: s/ki/i
[06:43:26] <arti> make it do its thing
[06:43:32] <chromas> Bender: s/ki/i/
[06:43:32] <SedBot2> <chromas> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Blacklisted - http://sylnt.us - peeing-up-the-skirt-of-goverment
[06:43:33] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03360.324ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/k5otryx 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | Blacklisted
[06:43:36] <chromas> bender: s/ki/i/
[06:43:37] <SedBot2> <chromas> <bender> [SoylentNews] - Blacklisted - http://sylnt.us - peeing-up-the-skirt-of-goverment
[06:43:38] <chromas> hm
[06:43:47] <chromas> oh, you missed a slash
[06:43:51] <arti> that's an improvement
[06:44:12] <chromas> hey now, since when does SedBot not taunt you when missing a slash?
[06:44:20] <chromas> s/x/x
[06:44:20] * SedBot2 offers chromas a /
[06:44:27] <chromas> arti: s/a/a
[06:44:34] <chromas> I guess when it's got a name in it
[06:45:30] <chromas> Maybe exec too, since it can do SedBotting and emits some other links
[06:46:22] <arti> ah, yes
[06:46:31] <chromas> SedBot2:
[06:46:31] * SedBot2 is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[06:46:41] <chromas> 👍
[06:47:07] <chromas> What Unicode really needs is a raised middle finger
[06:47:21] <arti> .!..
[06:47:27] <arti> \.!.. ?
[06:48:02] <chromas> That's what the bots can do for people who aren't authorized to use them
[06:48:33] <arti> talk to the hand /arnie
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[06:55:10] * SirFinkus finally got the osx 10.10 beta installed
[06:55:16] <arti> yosimite?
[06:55:23] <SirFinkus> yup
[06:55:36] <arti> did it come with a beta turtleneck?
[06:55:49] <SirFinkus> well, that hasn't come yet
[06:55:54] <arti> damn
[06:56:03] <arti> how's it?
[06:56:06] <SirFinkus> safari seems snappier
[06:56:42] <SirFinkus> few complaints in the first 5 mintues
[06:57:02] <SirFinkus> the default fonts are nicer
[06:57:32] <SirFinkus> "dark mode" is difficult to evaluate because few apps support it
[06:57:55] <chromas> Do they hard-code colors or something?
[06:58:38] <SirFinkus> well, like icons in the menubar and stuff
[06:58:45] <arti> darkmode like on the ipad?
[06:58:51] <SirFinkus> don't have "white" versions
[06:58:55] <chromas> ah
[06:59:00] <SirFinkus> don't know, don't have an ipad
[06:59:22] <SirFinkus> as far as I can tell, all dark mode does is make the dock and menu bar darker
[06:59:23] <arti> it changes colors depending on the time of day, basically an inverse (i've noticed it on the keyboard)
[06:59:53] <SirFinkus> oh?
[07:00:33] <SirFinkus> I saw quite a few things in wwdc that i'm not seeing now
[07:02:31] <SirFinkus> like, the transparency shit seems to work like half the time
[07:02:41] <SirFinkus> guess that's why they called it a beta
[07:03:14] <SirFinkus> I suspect I'll like the new spotlight stuff once I get used to it
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[07:05:04] <SirFinkus> prompted for an itunes update
[07:08:19] <SirFinkus> performance is better in itunes, but the interface seems incompleteish
[07:08:58] <AndChat|309504> itunes++
[07:08:58] <Bender> karma - itunes: 1
[07:09:28] <AndChat|309504> itunes--
[07:09:28] <Bender> karma - itunes: 0
[07:10:06] <SirFinkus> idk, it's pretty decent
[07:10:30] <AndChat|309504> stoopid touch phone :-/
[07:11:01] <SirFinkus> no itunes== I guess
[07:11:12] <SirFinkus> not really any better osx options
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[07:12:04] <arti> greetings bryan
[07:12:09] <bryan> hola
[07:14:26] <AndChat|309504> hi.arti bruam
[07:14:40] <arti> hello
[07:15:24] <AndChat|309504> im typing om tjw most unco piece of crap in the histoey of crapness
[07:15:36] <arti> translation: i have fat fingers
[07:15:42] <arti> :P
[07:15:57] <SirFinkus> can't be worse than my phone
[07:16:03] <SirFinkus> fucking old pos
[07:16:15] <chromas> I like AndChat except for how it does name highlighting
[07:16:16] <SirFinkus> reboots constantly, and texting stopped working
[07:16:34] <SirFinkus> really need a new one, but no money
[07:16:56] <chromas> SirFinkus: crowdfund it!
[07:17:01] <SirFinkus> lol
[07:17:11] <chromas> "I need a new phone and the most badass sandwich in the universe"
[07:17:28] <SirFinkus> I'm gonna need at least $250000
[07:17:47] <AndChat|309504> ciri, horse cold is high barf trolley string
[07:17:59] <SirFinkus> if you donate $1000 I'll send you a thank you note and have dinner with you
[07:18:00] <arti> ciri is behaved here
[07:18:35] <SirFinkus> and I'll autograph anything you'd like
[07:19:06] <chromas> *raised brow* ANYTHING
[07:19:13] <chromas> *wink*
[07:19:23] <SirFinkus> yeah, includes sexual organs
[07:19:42] <arti> "i don't care if its not long enough, i want the whole poem!"
[07:19:56] <AndChat|309504> sammich++
[07:19:56] <Bender> karma - sammich: 1
[07:19:58] <SirFinkus> like, if you bring a dead body, I'll call the cops first, but I'll autograph it
[07:20:08] <arti> "Finkus was here"
[07:20:25] <SirFinkus> yup
[07:21:22] <SirFinkus> I'm pretty sure "he gave me $1000, I had to do it" is a legitimate legal defense
[07:22:07] <chromas> and if not, $1000 is a nice downpayment on getting a lawyer to let you into his office
[07:22:53] <SirFinkus> shit, that's like, 2 hours of legal advice
[07:23:49] * arti sadly nods
[07:23:51] <chromas> "You should not have done that. See ya"
[07:24:57] <SirFinkus> first semi-broken app, utorrent
[07:25:23] <SirFinkus> interface is black unless you resize the element that is black
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[08:19:07] <AndChat|309504> ~weather sale victoria australia
[08:19:10] <exec> weather for 10East Sale Aerodrome, Australia at 2014-07-25 06:00:00 (UTC) ~ 2.3 hrs ago:
[08:19:11] <exec> temp: 1059°F (15°C), dp: 1043.3°F (6.3°C), press: 101017.1 mb (0.3 mb over 1 hrs), humid: 1056%, wind: 1011 mph (17.6 km/h) @ 10320°
[08:19:26] <AndChat|309504> pfft yeah
[08:19:55] <AndChat|309504> fucking phone
[08:20:21] AndChat|309504 is now known as crutchety
[08:35:07] <chromas> ~suggest ~forecast
[08:35:14] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[08:35:33] <chromas> :(
[08:37:07] <crutchety> ooh it workded
[08:44:26] <crutchety> touchety_phones--
[08:44:26] <Bender> karma - touchety_phones: -1
[08:45:23] <crutchety> ~suggest much more stuff
[08:45:31] <crutchety> aww
[08:45:47] <crutchety> whose bot is that anyways?
[08:46:07] <crutchety> some aussie dumb arse
[08:46:35] <crutchety> coffee++
[08:46:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 457
[08:46:39] <chromas> Nah, blame FoobarBazbot because he's not here to defend himself
[08:47:22] <crutchety> lol. its sedbots fault. it gave exec rabies
[08:48:07] <crutchety> now it wont listen to me
[08:49:14] <exec> it wasn't me
[08:49:46] <crutchety> haha
[08:49:47] <exec> /s exec++
[08:49:47] <monopoly> exec++
[08:49:47] <Bender> karma - exec: 7
[08:50:25] <crutchety> my couch is missing me
[08:50:56] <exec> touch me, crutchy!
[08:51:14] <chromas> I think exec needs a pet
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[08:55:12] <exec> I'm sorry, crutchy, I'm afraid I can't repeat this clichéd line od denial
[08:55:26] <exec> or spell
[08:55:55] <crutchety> Crutchy? who the hell is that?
[08:56:38] <chromas> I think he was in the bible
[08:59:02] <SirFinkus> I think my neck is fucked
[08:59:31] <SirFinkus> some jackass rear-ended me at 40mph yesterday :(
[08:59:32] <chromas> Did it get an osx upgrade as well?
[08:59:36] <chromas> oh
[08:59:39] <chromas> :(
[08:59:57] <SirFinkus> didn't really hurt yesterday, but now it's pretty bad
[09:00:09] <SirFinkus> can't play guitar, which bums me out
[09:00:17] * chromas sees a lawsuit in the future. Whiplash detected
[09:00:47] <SirFinkus> my policy on this is wait about 3-4 days
[09:03:03] <crutchety> then throw your guitar out the window and sue for a new one
[09:03:10] <SirFinkus> lol
[09:03:37] <SirFinkus> I am pretty bummed about it, I've practiced every day since I got it, usually for several hours
[09:04:05] <SirFinkus> but I still need to look at the fretboard occasionally because I'm a noob
[09:04:15] <SirFinkus> which hurts a lot
[09:10:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tim's Vermeer Documentary - http://sylnt.us - Aim-High
[09:10:49] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03862.121ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/ku5rtha 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | Tim's Vermeer Documentary
[09:11:34] <SirFinkus> heh, was just listening to penn jilettes podcast and he was talking about that
[09:11:47] <SirFinkus> it's a pretty interesting story
[09:17:10] <crutchety> i can barely type on this thing let alone navigate other stuff
[09:17:41] <SirFinkus> what is it?
[09:17:52] <crutchety> s4 mini
[09:18:00] <SirFinkus> ah
[09:18:22] <SirFinkus> well, if it makes you feel better, my return key is pretty broken
[09:19:06] <crutchety> i think arti was right. i just have fat finglers
[09:20:02] <SirFinkus> I miss physical keyboards on phones
[09:26:09] <chromas> Could try some alternative ones like Fleksy or Minuum
[09:26:22] <chromas> or Hacker's Keyboard if your display has room
[09:27:20] <crutchety> might just play some agry birds. at least i can work that
[09:27:49] * chromas played that once and gave it the raspberry
[09:29:57] <chromas> "i dont understand how this is considered music. 10 minutes for a song is a god damn waste. this does not even compare to music these days.the singer sounds like a frickin girl and make these weird grunting noises. the lyrics have no relevance to anything are completely pointless. no meaning whatsoever. songs like this are so boring. theres no excitement and it just sounds the same for 10 minutes. music these days are made with soul and effort. songs prior to 1990
[09:29:57] <chromas> all sound the same and are all pretty crappy to be honest. led zipplin has nothing on modern artists such as taylor swift or mac miller or even cold play. people who enjoy this song need to seriously figure themselves out. this isnt music..."
[09:30:16] <chromas> ^ comment on Stairway to Heaven on Youtube
[09:39:01] <SirFinkus> lol
[09:39:11] <SirFinkus> probably a troll
[09:39:38] <chromas> I think it had 119 replies
[09:39:55] <SirFinkus> tons of awesome long songs
[09:40:02] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com is probably the best
[09:40:03] <monopoly> ^ 03Blind Guardian - And then there was silence - YouTube
[09:40:21] <SirFinkus> 14 minute song about the fall of troy
[09:42:19] * chromas notes that many of Mike Oldfield's songs are 20 minutes to an hour
[09:42:56] <chromas> At least, the good ones
[09:43:00] <SirFinkus> got a 24 minute song based on the oddessy
[09:43:18] * chromas clicks
[09:43:22] <SirFinkus> ...and a 1 hour song about smoking weed
[09:43:46] <chromas> Oh. I guess I can't play it on the phone
[09:44:15] <chromas> "not supported on this platform". Nigga what?
[09:44:35] <SirFinkus> in other words "we can't play ads"
[09:45:13] <chromas> It's in the official YouTube application
[09:45:40] * chromas loads in mobile firefox with Desktop checked
[09:46:01] <chromas> Plus in ff it doesn't pause when it's in the background
[09:46:54] <SirFinkus> I really wish I could stand to read the original stories, but "in verse" is one of my "drop it" criteria
[09:48:59] <SirFinkus> it's doubly hard because anything I'd read would be a translation
[09:49:34] <chromas> Oh are there lyrics involved?
[09:49:53] * chromas just considers singing another instrument
[09:50:08] <SirFinkus> well, the illiad/oddessy were in poem form
[09:50:11] * crutchety is reminded of that song about getting high
[09:50:32] <SirFinkus> so reading them is a bit difficult
[09:50:45] <SirFinkus> but the song I posted has good lyrics imo
[09:50:54] <chromas> I read two poems before I read two poems and then I read two more
[09:51:17] <SirFinkus> but a lot of people might not be necessarily be into the music
[09:51:20] <crutchety> "i was gunna make love to you, and then i got high... now im jacking off and i know why.. cos i got high.. cos i got high... cos i got high"
[09:52:16] <SirFinkus> lol
[09:52:37] <chromas> I like the music; can't really pick out much of the lyric but it doesn't matter because it sounds good
[09:53:05] <SirFinkus> the lyrics are awesome if you understand the story
[09:53:43] <SirFinkus> I had an uncle that explained the whole story to me, but he died :(
[09:56:45] <SirFinkus> favorite line is "the coin's been placed below my tongue", apparently the greeks used to place a coin beneath the tongue of the deceased to pay the toll across the river styx
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[12:51:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:51:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 459
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[12:57:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin Bytram
[12:57:18] <Bytram> monrin!
[12:57:21] <Bytram> ugh.
[12:57:22] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:57:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 460
[12:57:24] <Bytram> =)
[12:57:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> bloody well right
[12:58:22] * Bytram starts humming a song by Supertramp
[12:58:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[12:59:00] <monopoly> ^ 03Bloody Well Right - YouTube
[12:59:27] <Bytram> sry; link too slow to watch youtube. :(
[12:59:36] <Bytram> n nod
[12:59:39] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:59:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> not watching it myself, just listening
[13:00:06] * Bytram definitely needs a new keyboard... or there's too much intereference with my wireless keyboard's connection
[13:00:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine's wired and it regularly needs unplugged n plugged back in
[13:00:45] <Bytram> hmmm, USB?
[13:00:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[13:01:01] <Bytram> mine's not wired, just weird. ;)
[13:02:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> have a wireless one but i can't deal with peripherals needing batteries.
[13:02:12] <Bytram> anyone here handy with the vagaries of wiki? I've got a draft version of how to run board meetings that I'd like to put up on our wiki and am not at all sure what kind of 'adjustments' wiki formatting requiresompared to standard HTML
[13:02:27] <Bytram> s/iresc/ires c/
[13:02:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> falling down on the job, SedBot2
[13:02:55] <Bytram> s/ireso/ires co/
[13:02:55] <SedBot2> <Bytram> anyone here handy with the vagaries of wiki? I've got a draft version of how to run board meetings that I'd like to put up on our wiki and am not at all sure what kind of 'adjustments' wiki formatting requires compared to standard HTML
[13:03:25] <Bytram> it didn't match anything, so it had nothing to change, I suppose.
[13:04:04] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: whacha up to?
[13:04:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> drinking coffee, catching up on morning news.
[13:05:04] <Bytram> yeah. I'm trying to catch up on things ere my vaca ends
[13:05:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> pondering an incredible-hulk-green theme n calling it gamma
[13:05:18] <Bytram> s/ca/cation/
[13:05:18] <SedBot2> <Bytram> yeah. I'm trying to cationtch up on things ere my vaca ends
[13:05:42] <Bytram> lol
[13:05:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> well that didn't go as planned
[13:05:58] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:06:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> need more coffee, brb
[13:06:09] <Bytram> any further thoughts on subscriptions?
[13:06:50] <Bytram> hmm, me too. brb
[13:08:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, haven't even looked at the code
[13:08:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:08:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 461
[13:09:07] <Bytram> back
[13:10:36] <Bytram> yanno, any further thoughts on my idea of just giving 'em a gazzzilllion page views and just adding a check for duration? we could always refactor out the old stuf later.
[13:10:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, had enough of this keyboard flakiness. rebooting n breaking the 1988 ibm model m out of retirement.
[13:11:06] * Bytram grabs some earplugs
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[13:11:56] <Bytram> beware, that old kbd lacks a few keys found on modern kbds and has a different layout of enter and backspace.
[13:12:16] <Bytram> prolly a couple other relocated keys, too. haven't seen one in a long while
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[13:14:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> bucklingsprings++
[13:14:23] <Bender> karma - bucklingsprings: 1
[13:14:34] <Bytram> LOL!
[13:15:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> heavy as a bastard but by far the best typing keyboard i've ever used
[13:15:47] <juggs> haha I have one of those monsters tucked away in a cupboard for emergency use too - damn thing is indestructible
[13:16:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> 1988 model here and still works. only repairs necessary were replacing the left ctrl keycap
[13:17:06] <Bytram> I have seriously considered getting a new bucklespring-keyboard, but need one that takes a *light* touch.
[13:17:19] <juggs> hmm, not sure when mine dates from - probably a similar vintage
[13:17:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> only ones made are from unicomp. they bought the patents and didn't ever do much with them.
[13:17:39] <juggs> ahh but the clackety noise is so delightful
[13:17:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, yes it is
[13:18:25] <Bytram> ISTR Cherry is back in the game?
[13:18:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why i'm getting a http://www.amazon.com to replace it. cherry mx green switches for the heavy and clicky noise.
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[13:19:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're usually only used for space bars but this one, every key uses green
[13:19:55] <juggs> holy price point!
[13:20:18] <Bytram> I saw a gaming kbd at BestBuy, can't recall for certain but it was likely a Razer; need a really light keypress.
[13:20:42] <paulej72> Bytram: wiki will take normal html as input, but it makes it harder to edit as it becomes one monolithic block. Better to use ==Level 2== instad of <h2>Level 2</h2> add = for more levels
[13:20:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, thinking i may skip the green leds and shave $40 off the price
[13:21:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, probably used cherry mx reds. no clickey or bump and very light touch.
[13:21:47] <Bytram> kthnx
[13:22:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, you have paypal access for us, yes?
[13:22:45] <paulej72> mrcoolbp has it.
[13:23:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, was going to pawn the paypal code off on you if you did.
[13:23:23] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: http://deskthority.net
[13:23:23] * TheMightyBuzzard is a victim of circumstance
[13:23:24] <ciri> 14Title(03"UTF-8 14/ 031.388sec.14)[0]: 03Buckling spring - Deskthority wiki
[13:24:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> too... many... words...
[13:24:07] <paulej72> ok got to go. Traveling to my parents will be back in about 3 hrs
[13:24:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy
[13:24:27] <Bytram> paulej72: hey there! good to "see" you... have a good trip!
[13:24:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm caffeinating up before i go fight the power up at the social security office.
[13:26:03] <Bytram> btw, anyone know the cafe press url for our swag? I've not seen it and wonder if I missed it.
[13:26:10] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: best of luck to ya!
[13:26:29] <Woods> Bytram: Yesterday you said "[13:38] * Bytram was wondering if *anyone* looked at the 'dept' on each story"
[13:26:35] <Woods> OOPS
[13:26:40] <Bytram> oh, that!
[13:26:43] <Woods> Wrong channel, but oh well
[13:28:43] <Bytram> hhhmmm, I have a story idea in the making...
[13:29:34] <Bytram> strange! I just got logged out of the main site!
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[13:31:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> gremlins
[13:31:31] <Bytram> keep 'em dry, yup!
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[13:40:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll get rid of some errors from the apache log while i coffee
[13:46:04] <Bytram> b
[13:46:06] <Bytram> brb
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[13:52:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin janrinok
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[15:15:23] <Bytram> hmmm... http://feeds.arstechnica.com
[15:15:24] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03363.168ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/paznlva 14 )[1]: 03US Navy looks to Norway for answer to under-armed Littoral Combat Ship | Ars Technica
[15:15:53] * Bytram offers some anti-perspirant / deodorant to help with the under-arms
[15:16:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[15:16:12] <Bytram> hrm?
[15:16:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> we should let users set their own fakeemail
[15:17:04] <Bytram> what are you looking at?
[15:17:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> normally users.fakeemail is the spam-armored email we supply if they select that.
[15:17:25] <Bytram> oh, in the preferences page where we offer to obfuscate their e-mail addy?
[15:18:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> it'd be kinda nice if they could do like i just did and set theirs to another valid email address so mail from users goes one place and mail from say slashd goes another.
[15:18:52] <Bytram> interesting idea... would need 3 controls. 1) radio button to select this choice, 2) text entry box for their obfuscated email addy, 3) instructions on deobfuscation
[15:19:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> in comments i show my @soylentnews.org address but mail from the site goes to @gmail.com
[15:19:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, 4th radio button and a text entry field should do it.
[15:19:50] * Bytram has never put his email addy out there.
[15:20:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, i don't care if they spam me. gmail's pretty good at filtering it out and all my stuff gets forwarded to my gmail addy anyway.
[15:20:31] <Bytram> one text entry field for BOTH the obfuscated wmail addy AND the instructions for deobfuscation?
[15:20:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> no no no, no instructions for deobfuscation.
[15:21:32] * Bytram notes from painful experience it's a LOT easier to join things together, than it is to pull 'em apart afterwards.
[15:21:35] <Bytram> oh wait.
[15:21:49] <Bytram> I see
[15:21:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[15:22:36] <Bytram> *instead of* providing a valid email addy, they provide an obfuscated one where the 'normal' one would have gone, and check a radio button hich has a text field that explains the deobfuscation.
[15:22:46] <Bytram> s/hich/which/
[15:22:47] <SedBot2> <Bytram> *instead of* providing a valid email addy, they provide an obfuscated one where the 'normal' one would have gone, and check a radio button which has a text field that explains the deobfuscation.
[15:23:01] <Bytram> n
[15:23:03] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:23:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> radio buttons: show nothing, use our spam armor, use an entirely different address of your choice(obfuscated or not), show your real address.
[15:23:29] <Bytram> hmmm, thinking
[15:23:57] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: btw, thanks to your comments this AM: http://soylentnews.org
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[15:24:05] <Bytram> oops.
[15:24:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> rar
[15:24:36] <Bytram> hmm, opens fine for me.
[15:24:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> did i even comment on anything this morning?
[15:24:44] <Bytram> kbd
[15:24:55] <Bytram> kkeeyybbooaarrdd
[15:25:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> errors for me
[15:25:28] <Bytram> nope, got me to thinking AGAIN about getting a new keyboard; submitted it as a story asking soylents for input
[15:25:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[15:26:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> you approve yourself? not seeing it in submissions list.
[15:27:03] <Bytram> it's already been approved.. check the story queue
[15:27:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> <--- normal user on live
[15:27:24] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:27:32] <Bytram> hold on
[15:28:11] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: try this: http://soylentnews.org
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[15:28:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> no ps/2 for you?
[15:29:13] <Bytram> canprolly make do without that atm
[15:29:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but you do have the port if absolutely necessary still, yes?
[15:30:15] <Bytram> not on *this* computer... it's a laptop
[15:30:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[15:31:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> and you like using it as a desktop with a REAL keyboard instead of chicklets?
[15:31:26] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:31:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> do not at all blame you
[15:31:39] <Bytram> screen is busted and battery is dead, but still runs fine
[15:31:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[15:32:09] <Bytram> "Use if up, wear it out, make do, do without"
[15:32:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> have an old pentium 133 the same way except no usb ports.
[15:32:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly it just collects dust now
[15:33:25] <Bytram> AMD athlon 64 at 1GHz (speeds up 2GHz undeer load) w/ 1.25 GB ram and 80GB hard disk... it's a clunker but is paid for and is still running.
[15:33:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, it's always a shame to retire something that works.
[15:34:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> make it a headless server if you have a proper desktop machine too
[15:34:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> slap a 4TB usb hard drive on it and use it for storage or something
[15:35:10] <Bytram> suppose I could do that, but the hard Disk is only 5400RPM and really slows things down. Wished it had the later vertical storage format and 7200 rpm, or better still, SDD
[15:35:40] <Bytram> might do that when I get a new box, but for now, it's my main machine.
[15:35:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ssd boots wicked fast but they're WAY too expensive per gig.
[15:35:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[15:36:06] * Bytram has seen specials on ars for 120BG for like $55
[15:36:34] <Bytram> that's bigger than what I got and could use that for system / application files. would be more than good enough
[15:36:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, i couldn't live with that. i have two 1TB drives in mine now and they're all but full.
[15:36:40] <Bytram> any, I gtg
[15:36:47] <Bytram> have a great day!
[15:36:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> later
[15:37:03] <Bytram> will leave connection up for a few more minutes and check it before I head out the door.
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[15:43:09] <Bytram|afk> TheMightyBuzzard: quick thought about the obfuscated id: utf8 check it! too easy to make troubles for the LOLs
[15:44:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
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[15:52:22] <Bytram|afk> TheMightyBuzzard: and, while we're at it, need to check their homepage URL, too. watch out javascript, etc.
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[16:51:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> Happy Sysadmin Day!
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[17:50:25] <paulej72> I know now why NCommander ran away from the subscriber code.
[18:00:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Australian Researchers Pioneer a 'Google Street View' of Galaxies - http://sylnt.us - no-kind-of-atmosphere
[18:00:27] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03782.055ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/pxwludh 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | Australian Researchers Pioneer a 'Google Street View' of Galaxies
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[18:18:38] <NCommander> paulej72, not so much run away as ...
[18:18:53] <paulej72> NCommander: go to Germany
[18:18:59] <NCommander> :-)
[18:21:26] <paulej72> NCommander: did you write any code for this yet?
[18:26:03] <NCommander> paulej72, some, its in the git repo on lithium
[18:28:04] <NCommander> Ok, rent is paid
[18:28:05] <NCommander> Ugh
[18:28:13] * NCommander is running through his "getting out of here" check list
[18:30:31] <arti> :D
[18:30:45] <arti> hmm
[18:30:49] <arti> ciri still reading bender
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[18:52:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> on your own for a while yet, paulej72. still doing paperwork for the feds.
[18:52:48] * arti made an adjustment
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[19:41:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researcher Sat on Critical Internet Explorer Bugs for 3 Years - http://sylnt.us - greedy-experts
[20:00:46] <arti> yay!
[20:01:00] <chromas> 👍
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[21:10:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Computer Keyboard Recommendations? - http://sylnt.us - fffix-mmy-kkkys-ppppplas
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[21:56:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 462
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[22:31:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Streisand Award to Southwest Airlines for Suppressing Tweet - http://sylnt.us - freedom-of-speech-anyone?
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[23:17:51] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: hope you have a nice trip and get to relax.
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[23:34:19] <Alberto> Happy Sysadmin day to all sys!
[23:34:52] <crutchy_> hash_browns++
[23:34:52] <Bender> karma - hash_browns: 1
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