#Soylent | Logs for 2014-07-23
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[23:59:47] Alberto is now known as TheMightyBot
[23:58:07] <TheMightyLaptop> aka ghetto blue box
[23:57:32] <TheMightyLaptop> cap'n'crunch whistle, yep yep
[23:56:41] <Blackmoore> :)
[23:55:53] <stdhell> 2600 Hz
[23:54:03] <Blackmoore> .. and what is the frequency of the At&t long distance ..
[23:51:28] <Blackmoore> (i'm fiddling with wires and magnets for the next question)
[23:51:17] <cykros> into the garbage truck.
[23:50:57] <Blackmoore> so how do you properly load the punchcard reader?
[23:50:40] <cykros> LOAD"name",8,1
[23:50:07] <stdhell> (That would be my next question anyway...)
[23:49:55] <stdhell> Ok, how do you load a program from a C64 floppy?
[23:49:29] <cykros> just a coupld 5 1/4" floppy drives and some game cartridges
[23:49:08] <cykros> heh, that's one i'd probably have to go look up. i never had a working tape drive for my C64 as a kid
[23:48:43] <stdhell> Sure... How do you load a program from a C64 tape?
[23:48:00] <cykros> ?
[23:47:59] <cykros> sure, i can do it...but aren't there better things to be putting on a test
[23:47:51] <cykros> it just kind of feels like being asked to know my way around windows 3.1's program manager.
[23:45:29] <stdhell> Correct. It's hard to find hubs, so now they costs more than a real switch.
[23:45:04] <cykros> i guess if you have like, an office with 2 computers.
[23:44:54] <cykros> my layer 3 switch was under $200...and you can definitely find some enterprise class switches in the ~$50 range...
[23:44:34] <cykros> heh, cheaper almost doesn't even apply anymore
[23:44:19] <stdhell> Cheaper (not really) and makes it easier to sniff other peoples traffic. What more reasons do you need?
[23:43:09] <cykros> though i half say that just so i can have someone remind me that their backwards management at their company has hubs all over the place for some arcane reason known only to those with pointy hair.
[23:42:28] <cykros> it's two thousand and freakin' fourteen...
[23:42:16] <cykros> i wouldn't be annoyed as much about there not being any ipv6 on the exam except that while they ignore tomorrow's technology, they had me answering questions about HUBS
[23:41:41] <paulej72> need to food now. bbl
[23:41:28] <cykros> great with computers...except with skills that are marketable.
[23:41:17] * cykros does those on a pretty regular basis as it is
[23:41:03] <cykros> that just seems to be an exercise in another useless skill though.
[23:40:52] <cykros> i suppose i could use the layer 3 routing functionality on the switch to point all ipv6 traffic out my desktop as a static route...
[23:40:29] <stdhell> There's also ... eh... the one I forgot the name of...
[23:40:13] <cykros> i have one, but doing it on my host directly is such a buzzkill
[23:39:51] <stdhell> ... or visit tunnelbroker.net
[23:39:46] <cykros> my layer 3 switch is ipv6 ready, but doesn't handle he's tunneling method
[23:39:24] <cykros> heh, i did consider it. biggest reason for not being that motivated is that my router isn't ipv6 ready...i'd need to either get a ram upgrade for it or roll it back to IOS 12.4...i may do the latter
[23:38:56] <stdhell> You know you want to...
[23:38:48] <stdhell> cykros: Take HE's test and get a t-shirt!
[23:38:19] <cykros> i am pretty annoyed at how much time i spent going over ipv6 to have not a single question about it on the exam though
[23:38:00] <ciri> 14Title(03iso8859-1 14/ 03265.041ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/7qdy5w6 14 )[0]: 0314Image (03image/png14). Size: 0316.001Kb14.
[23:37:59] <stdhell> http://static.tvtropes.org
[23:37:58] <stdhell> For science!
[23:37:49] * cykros almost passed
[23:37:40] <cykros> man, i wish someone had told me the videos i was watching to study for my CCENT were slightly out of date...
[23:35:59] <ciri> 14Title(03iso8859-1 14/ 03453.386ms.14)[0]: 0314Image (03image/jpeg14). Size: 0332.219Kb14.
[23:35:58] <stdhell> http://imgs.xkcd.com
[23:35:49] <ciri> 14Title(03iso8859-1 14/ 03145.987ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/c28e8w5 14 )[0]: 0314Image (03image/jpeg14). Size: 0316.001Kb14.
[23:35:48] <stdhell> http://28.media.tumblr.com
[23:34:58] <TheMightyLaptop> truth
[23:34:56] <mrcoolbp> er
[23:34:51] <mrcoolbp> she was smokin' in that movei
[23:34:18] <TheMightyLaptop> jolie back before she was batshit insane
[23:33:09] <mrcoolbp> *delayed reaction*
[23:32:56] <mrcoolbp> hack the plaaaaneeet!
[23:31:48] <mrcoolbp> the one you have works though
[23:31:13] <mrcoolbp> that would be a cool science icon
[23:31:04] <ciri> 14Title(03"UTF-8 14/ 03284.746ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/cf52pf5 14 )[0]: 03Try Science | the xkcd store
[23:31:04] <mrcoolbp> http://store-xkcd-com.myshopify.com
[23:28:23] <mrcoolbp> yup
[23:28:12] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: the secruity one I have up is the same as your’s except brass colored
[23:27:44] <paulej72> new science top icon up.
[23:27:30] <ciri> 14Title(03iso8859-1 14/ 0393.856ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/nbd5p3q 14 )[0]: 0314Image (03image/png14). Size: 03162.779Kb14.
[23:27:29] <TheMightyLaptop> officially the weirdest thing i've seen all day: http://applejack.ponychan.net
[23:26:20] <crutchy> can adjust colors pretty easily
[23:23:15] <paulej72> dont want to get too much red
[23:21:01] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: https://openclipart.org
[23:17:22] <crutchy> they must be royalty free (else debian wouldn't use them)
[23:17:07] <crutchy> what about some linux icons (like debian pixmaps?)
[23:16:37] <paulej72> new one up
[23:14:08] <mrcoolbp> it looks decent when you blow it up a bit, but at that resolution (40px I think), it's pixely
[23:13:41] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: yup agreed
[23:13:25] <chromas> Hack the planet!
[23:13:19] <chromas> he was security in that movie
[23:12:59] <chromas> Pen Jillette's face
[23:11:01] <paulej72> I am not quite happy with the lock, but the ones from rand were too pixelated for my tastes
[23:10:07] * TheMightyLaptop ponders
[23:08:36] <paulej72> so we are safe in using that image
[23:07:40] <paulej72> Lots of image projects use confusing words such as images being royalty free, then you read the fine-print and find there are fees or limitations on how you might use an image. We try to make it clear that you may use all clipart even for unlimited commercial use. We believe that giving away our images is a great way to share with the world our talents and that will come back around in a better form.
[23:07:40] <paulej72> Unlimited Commercial Use
[23:07:06] <paulej72> To the extent fully possible, each artist at Openclipart releases all rights to the images they share at Openclipart. The reason is so that there is zero friction in using and sharing images authors make available at this website so that each artist might also receive the same benefit in using other artists clipart totally for any possible reason.
[23:07:05] <paulej72> All Clipart are Released into the Public Domain.
[23:07:05] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: I think I'm pretty happy with the icons
[23:06:39] <stdhell> And yes, you should use a d20 instead of a d6 for /dev/random.
[23:06:39] <paulej72> https://openclipart.org
[23:06:23] <paulej72> the image was from the open clip art librafy
[23:06:16] <stdhell> Makes sense...
[23:05:59] <TheMightyLaptop> to 21 on a d20
[23:04:49] <stdhell> The only important thing is that the opposite sides add up to 7.
[23:04:27] <stdhell> Not all dices are identical. Not even the standard 6 sided.
[23:00:56] <TheMightyLaptop> good question
[23:00:02] <chromas> Is there a page that shows the asset licenses? :D
[22:59:50] <TheMightyLaptop> ya, they're authoritative if anyone is
[22:59:28] <mrcoolbp> must be
[22:59:19] <paulej72> I got it from wikipedia so it must be right
[22:59:17] <SedBot2> <chromas> We need anatomically correct die :)
[22:59:16] <chromas> s/ce/e/
[22:59:14] <TheMightyLaptop> leave it, see if anyone notices
[22:58:58] <chromas> We need anatomically correct dice :)
[22:58:49] <paulej72> hell if I know
[22:58:38] <mrcoolbp> YES!
[22:58:37] <TheMightyLaptop> dig it. are the numbers in the right place?
[22:57:42] <paulej72> I jsut put it up
[22:57:35] <paulej72> how about the new /dev/random topic icon
[22:56:44] <crutchy> is there a page that describes the scope of each topic?
[22:54:38] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: nevermind, I think that software icon is good that you have there
[22:52:40] * TheMightyLaptop listens to the hamster dance song for the millionth time
[22:52:33] <chromas> of the buzz
[22:52:27] <chromas> with an auto-playing .wav file
[22:52:02] <chromas> Need an animated Hypnotoad in there somewhere
[22:50:43] <crutchy> the dev icon could be an animated 'under construction' gif :-d
[22:50:32] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: you didn't like his "software" icon?
[22:49:39] <crutchy> and hitting the dancing baby in the head
[22:49:20] <TheMightyLaptop> animated gif of them rolling in
[22:49:17] <crutchy> what's a website without animated gifs?
[22:48:10] <chromas> plus that makes it more 'random'
[22:47:58] <chromas> need several dice, so each time, there's a different set of dots
[22:47:48] <TheMightyLaptop> i am not finding a new plural for die.
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[22:47:32] <crutchy> the proc thingy is kinda working
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[22:47:24] <chromas> "It's cool, I'm taking it back"
[22:47:23] <TheMightyLaptop> zactly
[22:47:17] <chromas> like "porch monkey"
[22:46:59] <TheMightyLaptop> nah, we gotta take "dice" back.
[22:46:32] <chromas> ~karma on
[22:46:19] <crutchy> the <start> thingy is already done. should delete that
[22:45:56] <crutchy> i also scribbling odd things here: https://github.com
[22:45:44] <chromas> cool
[22:45:41] <crutchy> yeah
[22:45:35] <chromas> So we ~suggest something and it adds to the wiki?
[22:45:08] <crutchy> i'm working on an irc->wiki suggestions thingy for mrcoolbp
[22:44:41] <chromas> Could be a spinner or a shuffle icon
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[22:41:38] <TheMightyLaptop> Behold, I am become Moderator, destroyer of trolls.
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[22:40:42] <paulej72> need a 20 sided die icon for random. Then you can no longer say it is Dice
[22:40:02] <chromas> crutchy: you had other bot ideas?
[22:39:18] <chromas> Shouldn't the Digital Liberty icon have someone hacking at the bars with an ax?
[22:37:05] <TheMightyLaptop> just less confusing if do it from home.
[22:36:52] * chromas should learn2read
[22:36:42] <TheMightyLaptop> already am
[22:36:33] <chromas> Just put TMB right before the password
[22:36:16] <chromas> You can login as TMB while keeping that name
[22:35:52] <TheMightyLaptop> i should add this nick to nickserv when i get back home.
[22:35:05] <crutchy> nah. need one of those 20-sided rubix cubes
[22:34:52] <crutchy> wb TheMightyLaptop :-)
[22:34:51] <chromas> Are six-sided dice nerdy enough?
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[22:33:59] <crutchy> back to the pile!
[22:33:46] <crutchy> chromas, future people take jerbs too
[22:33:05] <crutchy> big business is too busy lapping at the public trough to care. if only someone in government had the balls to remove the trough
[22:32:47] <chromas> Small businesses create jobs; big businesses buy them up and take jerbs
[22:31:34] <crutchy> ^create jobs
[22:31:28] <crutchy> small businesses do
[22:30:59] * crutchy is disturbed by that thought
[22:30:48] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03990.703ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/p3jfs3d 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | HP and Microsoft Prove it Again: Big Business Doesn't Create Jobs
[22:30:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - HP and Microsoft Prove it Again: Big Business Doesn't Create Jobs - http://sylnt.us - all-jobs-are-not-the-same-either
[22:30:44] <crutchy> lol
[22:30:39] <paulej72> crutchy: or it could have been chromas as I can never keep you to speerated in my mind. You go together like Laural and Hardy
[22:30:35] <crutchy> i'm easily pleased though paulej72. the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few ;-)
[22:30:12] * Alberto has to work T_T 17:30 PM here
[22:29:50] <Alberto> perlbot still there i think
[22:29:43] <crutchy> oh? thanks paulej72 :-D
[22:29:32] <paulej72> crutchy: i think i did that for you
[22:29:30] <crutchy> how goes the perlbot?
[22:29:25] <crutchy> g'day alberto
[22:29:17] <crutchy> looks less... err... dusty?
[22:29:12] <Alberto> sup boys/girls
[22:29:02] <crutchy> ooh i like that dev nightmode is slightly darker shade of grey
[22:29:02] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: any of the icons that you are not really happy about, or anyone else for that matter
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[22:28:35] <chromas> Nah, it's both
[22:27:32] <crutchy> unless you're a sockpuppet that's taken over chromas' body :-d
[22:27:13] <crutchy> home safe i see :-)
[22:27:12] <chromas> hey crutchy :D
[22:27:02] <crutchy> g'day chromas
[22:27:00] <chromas> crutchy: yeah, it should be a Soylent Muffin with a finger sticking out :D
[22:26:53] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03121.966ms.14)[0]: 03SoylentNews: Topics
[22:26:53] <paulej72> http://soylentnews.org vs http://dev.soylentnews.org
[22:26:32] * chromas notices the index pages look different on production
[22:26:02] <crutchy> i kinda don't get the candybar thing, but meh
[22:26:00] <ciri> 14Title(03iso8859-1 14/ 03221.947ms.14)[0]: 03Index of /images/topics
[22:25:58] <paulej72> http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:37] <paulej72> ass
[22:25:33] <paulej72> shitty as small candybar. Look at producion and see.
[22:25:11] * chromas doesn't remember what it was before, if anything
[22:23:48] <chromas> Looks like a candy bar here, unless they're somewhere else nwo
[22:23:19] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03161.761ms.14)[0]: 03Index of /images/topics
[22:23:19] <chromas> These ones? http://dev.soylentnews.org
[22:22:55] <crutchy> i can't even see the soylent one
[22:22:53] * mrcoolbp needs food and will be back shortly
[22:22:21] <mrcoolbp> = /
[22:20:59] <mrcoolbp> though now I'm not sure the difference between meta and soylent
[22:20:39] <mrcoolbp> yeah, that'll work
[22:20:33] <mrcoolbp> ooh, cool
[22:19:55] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: new soylent icon
[22:19:15] <crutchy> not that there's anything wrong with that
[22:18:53] <crutchy> nah that's kinda gay
[22:18:41] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: a pink pony with a rainbow?
[22:18:04] <crutchy> no worries
[22:17:53] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: yessir, thanks, I'm just super busy right now
[22:17:25] <crutchy> mrcoolbp, did you see the message i left on your wiki talk page?
[22:15:36] <crutchy> :-)
[22:15:31] * crutchy awaits the arrival of TheMightyLaptop
[22:15:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> heading out to drink someone else's coffee for variety's sake. be on the laptop shortly.
[22:14:59] <crutchy> could always have a picture of a pony for the random logo
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[22:12:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, just go with "we're taking it back". otherwise i'll have to call my dice bag a manual-rng-polyhedron bag
[22:11:44] <mrcoolbp> he's all slow now
[22:11:39] <mrcoolbp> Bender's gettin' old
[22:11:20] <Bender> karma - dice: -9
[22:11:20] <mrcoolbp> dice--
[22:11:12] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: of course, first thing that popped into my head as well
[22:11:09] <paulej72> that is what we had before.
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[22:10:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm undecided about the Random one. accurate and pretty but... Dice
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[22:09:08] <paulej72> meta and slash
[22:08:59] <paulej72> the ones I made do.
[22:08:35] <paulej72> old-timers should get it
[22:08:30] <crutchy> does the icon have lots of anti-aliased goodness?
[22:08:13] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: fair enough
[22:07:54] <mrcoolbp> and nice work "rand"
[22:07:48] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: that is the meta symbol fro sun keyboards
[22:07:45] <mrcoolbp> I'm liking how thos topic icons look, nice work paulej72
[22:07:18] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: I don't beleive I was kiddin'
[22:06:59] <mrcoolbp> meta should be a candy bar coming out of another candy bar
[22:06:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, was he kidding about the apple-touch-icon? dry humor misses me sometimes.
[22:05:55] <mrcoolbp> ah found it
[22:05:47] * mrcoolbp is trying to remember how to change the theme
[22:05:36] <mrcoolbp> I meant the design of it, maybe something like the apple-touch-icon
[22:05:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, "i shit you not, red" rather than reddish-orange
[22:04:28] <paulej72> it
[22:04:24] <paulej72> i was updated
[22:04:10] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: I'm still looking, but we should probably replace the "soylent" one as well
[22:04:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> well recently anyway
[22:03:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, ya, europe is largely in worse shape really. just without the history of violent revolution in many of the countries.
[22:03:14] <crutchy> nor the middle east
[22:03:07] <crutchy> although europe isn't really in any better shape
[22:02:31] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: awesome, lemme look
[22:02:26] <crutchy> unfortunately it kinda looks that way from outside too :-/
[22:02:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya?
[22:02:17] <paulej72> new icons and new chillax logo up on dev. I fixed the look of the topics page as well
[22:02:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> i expect when the revolution (could be political, could be bloody) comes, at least some of the states will want to peel off and go their own way.
[22:01:36] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: pong
[22:01:28] <crutchy> but you might be a lot worse if you weren't able to hold yourself up as much as you do. look at many other countries that have err... questionable... governments. many end up completely in the shit
[22:01:21] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: ping
[22:00:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i don't think we'll be around in the same form by 2114.
[21:59:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, not really. mostly we're mediocre people. trending downward.
[21:59:32] <crutchy> its just a strange time in history
[21:58:32] <crutchy> its a pity cos americans are mostly good people
[21:57:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly i think they don't even care if it hurts the nation later. they plan on being dead by the time the bill comes due.
[21:55:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> that what you be spouting? tis wisdom.
[21:50:23] <crutchy> americans had better start learning chinese
[21:49:20] <crutchy> the masses love voting for anyone that promises to give them more welfare money (esp if they have nfi how much it will hurt down the track)
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[21:42:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> damned fine car, the 442
[21:42:09] * crutchy is about to commence first coffee of day :-)
[21:41:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 442
[21:41:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[21:39:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> he'd probably beat palpatine if he could shoot lightning bolts out of his fingers too
[21:39:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> "Meanwhile President Obama is polling just two favorability points below Emperor Palpatine, Lord of the Sith. Make of that what you will."
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[21:35:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuckin hell, jar jar polled higher than congress
[21:34:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> via @cmdrtaco
[21:34:13] <ciri> 14Title(03"utf-8 14/ 03554.408ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/mjffpqg 14 )[0]: 03Darth Vader is polling higher than all potential 2016 presidential candidates - The Washington Post
[21:34:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.washingtonpost.com
[21:34:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> back at ya, crutchy
[21:33:55] <crutchy> g'day TheMightyBuzzard
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[21:30:33] * crutchy badly needs coffee :-/
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[21:30:13] <Bender> karma - pipedot_logo: 1
[21:30:13] <crutchy> pipedot_logo++
[21:30:03] <crutchy> cool
[21:26:16] * mrcoolbp received his pipedot usb drive
[21:26:08] <mrcoolbp> ooh shiny
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[21:20:26] <mrcoolbp> g'day sir
[21:20:17] <crutchy> g'day mrcoolbp
[21:19:54] <crutchy> i'm not very awake yet
[21:19:32] <crutchy> cya xlefay. good to see you again
[21:08:07] <mrcoolbp> = (
[21:04:45] <xlefay> I gotta go though, have a good one :)
[21:04:15] <xlefay> That's good :)
[21:03:54] <crutchy> things been better here, but i'm ok
[21:03:36] <xlefay> @ crutchy? :)
[21:01:43] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03647.365ms. 14/ 12http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/07/23/0826204&from=rss 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | Build a Better DC-to-AC Inverter and Win $1M
[21:01:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Build a Better DC-to-AC Inverter and Win $1M - http://sylnt.us - more-bang-for-your-buck
[21:01:19] <xlefay> Well, as good as can be, that is
[21:00:58] <xlefay> All's good?
[21:00:51] <xlefay> How are you tho?
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[20:58:46] <xlefay> Yeah, so a good thunderstorm is pretty neat
[20:57:39] <crutchy> hot weather is hard
[20:57:31] <crutchy> yeah hope it won't be too long
[20:56:30] * crutchy likes thunderstorms (as long as they don't come with gale force winds)
[20:56:00] <xlefay> I'm really hoping we'll have a nasty rain & some thunder. Things will cool down substantially then. At least, if it's long enough.
[20:55:23] <crutchy> ^aussie saying
[20:55:22] <swiss> mebe
[20:55:19] <xlefay> crutchy: it's been a bit wonky still. How about you?
[20:55:15] <crutchy> better than a kick in the teeth
[20:55:08] <xlefay> swiss: guessing the highlight is a script, can you not intercept certain patterns and ignore them? That's what I was referring to.
[20:54:16] <swiss> i just want it to not pop up in hilihgt
[20:54:15] <xlefay> I've been OK, might get about ~1000 euros back from my gov't *emphasis on 'might'* so that's nice
[20:54:10] <swiss> xlefay: yeah, but I wanted to try to not ignore it 100%
[20:54:00] <crutchy> weather not too nasty still i hope
[20:53:50] <crutchy> how you been matey?
[20:53:42] <crutchy> true
[20:53:36] <xlefay> Well, yes, but there isn't really a reason too since it's already posted x'D
[20:53:10] <crutchy> yeah i dunno. don't really notice it :-d
[20:52:40] <crutchy> i guess its much shorter than the url i posted
[20:52:00] <xlefay> I'm amused how ciri tinyfies URLs that are posted.. it doesn't really serve a perhaps at all
[20:51:15] <xlefay> G'day crutchy
[20:51:11] <crutchy> g'day xlefay :-)
[20:51:02] <crutchy> dunno if that helps. too much text for me to read before 7am
[20:50:38] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 031.839sec. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/9aqrq6 14 )[0]: 03Blogging is futile - Sedating irssi's nick highlight for microblogging messages
[20:50:34] <xlefay> With irssi, can you not set an ignore regex?
[20:50:34] <crutchy> http://noone.org
[20:50:25] <xlefay> What ZNC (bnc) I simply detach from #irpg channel. But that's pretty much /ignore of everything that happens in the channel.
[20:49:31] <swiss> can't be sure
[20:49:05] <crutchy> dunno about that one. in xchat in alert preferences you can list nicks to not highlight. not sure if there's something similar in irssi
[20:47:59] <swiss> i really just want to keep it out of my hilight win,
[20:47:44] <swiss> irssi
[20:47:41] <crutchy> what client swiss?
[20:47:17] <swiss> i want to strip the hilight bit, but not ignore him fullly
[20:47:04] <swiss> much harder than I thought
[20:46:58] <swiss> trying to keep NerdRPG from popping into my hilight window :/
[20:30:12] <crutchy> i dunno. debian's whole startup thing is too convoluted for me
[20:17:59] <paulej72> crutchy: what the real issue here is, RH has a default init script for kpropd, but Ubuntu (and Debian) do not for some reason. Why the hell not. I want to be able to use my service command
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[20:01:18] <crutchy> and cos rc.local occurs after all the init.d crap
[20:00:11] <crutchy> cos everything else seems too complicated
[19:59:37] * crutchy is guilty of preferring rc.local
[19:54:49] <paulej72> i see it was set to start from rc.local. the new script will be better.
[19:52:28] <paulej72> xlefay: no i did not, but since the passwords are working I figured all should be OK. I think our issue was the last time the server was restarted, kpropd did not start and thus all of our kerberos issues on boron
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[19:38:29] <crutchy> good morning
[19:37:41] <Azrael> w00t for k<stuff>
[19:14:33] <xlefay> Well done ;) Did you create a test principle to see if replication goes well now?
[19:14:17] <xlefay> cool!
[19:11:33] <paulej72> good news. I got a kpropd init script setup on boron and set to run on 2 3 4 and 5. Looks like we should be good now for kerberos
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[18:46:17] <xlefay> PM?*
[18:46:02] <xlefay> PM, I've got some e-mail addresses of him you might wish to try.
[18:45:50] <stdhell> I have two of his email addresses.
[18:45:49] <xlefay> Yeah
[18:45:29] <stdhell> Or if he had deleted the domains, so I could buy them as new domains.
[18:45:17] <xlefay> I'm guessing you do have his e-mail address.. maybe someone else has a way of getting in touch with him.
[18:45:11] <stdhell> It would have been easier, if I had the money when I suggested those domains in the first place.
[18:44:14] <stdhell> I honestly don't know anymore...
[18:44:00] <xlefay> Might just be slow delivery, or a hickup, or a mistake on his part. The difficult thing now is to get in touch with him to see what's up
[18:43:26] <xlefay> I hope you'll receive those papers shortly then (although, I doubt he would screw you over though)
[18:43:07] <stdhell> That actually makes it even worse for me, cause not only did I pay him what he originally paid for the domains. I have also paid for the transfer to gratisdns.
[18:42:31] <xlefay> Aah I see what you mean now, I thought you had no control over them yet either
[18:42:17] <stdhell> To my account on gratisdns... But MrBluze can move them back if he wants to. They're still not my domains.
[18:41:42] <stdhell> Yes, both of them has been moved to gratisdns.dk
[18:41:08] <xlefay> It seems port119 domainname was moved from transip
[18:40:23] <stdhell> Yes. And geekcard.
[18:40:12] <xlefay> Wasn't that the port119 domain?
[18:39:39] <xlefay> Yeah, that sucks big time
[18:39:27] <stdhell> So I still can't use the domains...
[18:39:17] <xlefay> I suppose they could use a bit more clearer language in that regard then
[18:39:17] <stdhell> I have control over the DNS, but since he still owns the domains according to whois, he can just ove the domains away from me, if he wants too.
[18:38:53] <xlefay> With TransIP you can always change the nameservers. I've got about 30 domainnames with them, but none use their DNS servers. Their DNS servers are painfullly slow updated. Add a new A record? See ya tomorrow!
[18:38:27] <stdhell> On the other server, their page made it seem like changing the owner was part of the transfer to their DNS. It wasn't...
[18:37:40] <stdhell> Well, I didn't see it right away. And since I wanted the DNS on some other servers, I didn't spend that long looking for it...
[18:37:36] <xlefay> I hope you'll receive the papers soon :)
[18:37:03] <xlefay> That's odd, they must have changed that. Previously, you could just create an account & you be set. Oh well.
[18:36:09] <stdhell> I couldn't find a place to create an account without buying a new domain and I wanted the DNS on the same servers as all my other domains.
[18:35:32] <xlefay> Perhaps he misput your address or something :/
[18:35:04] <xlefay> Oh. Well, mrbluze used transIP to register them, so it would've been quite easy to push them to you, if you had a transip account (they call it an internal push, so you have control before ownership)
[18:33:59] <stdhell> Paid for the domains 2 months ago and they're still not mine. :-(
[18:33:52] <xlefay> understood, the snail part was funny tho
[18:33:38] * stdhell is not amused...
[18:33:24] <xlefay> haha
[18:33:09] <stdhell> Maybe he shouldn't have used actual snails...
[18:32:59] <stdhell> Last time I heard from him was 3 weeks ago, when he said he would send some papers using snail-mail. Still haven't received those.
[18:32:15] <xlefay> Oh yeah.. I send him an e-mail the other day, he hasn't responded ;'(
[18:32:04] <stdhell> <aqu4> I last saw MrBluze at 2014-05-31 19:35:59 UTC in #soylent. Their most recent message is "cheers"
[18:31:47] <xlefay> fatphill?
[18:31:25] <stdhell> Great... Not online for almost 2 months.
[18:29:44] <stdhell> Thanks
[18:29:34] <xlefay> oh, aqu4 then
[18:29:20] <aqu4> I last saw juggs at 2014-07-23 04:53:46 UTC in #soylent. Their most recent message is "night all"
[18:29:20] <xlefay> $seen juggs
[18:29:12] <xlefay> ciri: has
[18:29:00] <stdhell> Do we have a "seen" service on this IRC "network"?
[18:25:28] <xlefay> So essentially, helium's pushing information to boron
[18:25:18] <xlefay> " The master-slave propagation procedure entails the master KDC dumping its database to a temporary dump file and then transmitting that file to each of its slaves, which then overwrite their previously-received read-only copies of the database with the contents of the dump file. "
[18:22:14] <xlefay> I wonder why helium's kpropd.acl is different than the one on boron, and why it's missing part of our internal TLD. I really have to read more about kerberos.. It just seems to me that boron might be denied access to helium, if it tries to get information because of the ACL but that's just an unfounded theory since I don't know how information is replicated amongst nodes
[18:20:04] <paulej72> I have the prop working and kinit is now working on boron with kdc running
[18:19:47] <xlefay> paulej72: indeed, I looked around it for a bit too. It doesn't seem to exist.
[18:19:29] <paulej72> xlefay, NCommander: kpropd was not started, but I can’t find the what intit script runs it
[18:19:26] <xlefay> paulej72: I think /etc/krb5kdc/kpropd.acl on helium might be wrong, our domainname (not realname) is missing '-22' at the end, on boron it's however correct. Is the cronjob showing any errors that are related to resolving and/or connecting?
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[18:11:45] <xlefay> host/kdc-01.li694@LI694-22 host/kdc-02.li694@LI694-22 (li694 instead of li694-22?)
[18:11:27] <xlefay> Also, helium has a different kpropd.acl file, and if I'm reading it correctly, it's missing '-22' from our internal domain. Is this intentional NCommander?
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[18:11:23] <monopoly> ^ 03Twelve Year Old Discovers New Spider Genus | IFLScience
[18:11:22] <Azrael> wow http://www.iflscience.com - my alternative headline 'Boy discovers new spider and names it a beetle'
[18:07:59] <xlefay> I'm not sure, if we're running it via inetd or just standalone, my guess (regarding the init script) is the standalone version
[18:07:41] <xlefay> paulej72: a quick search for that particular error: If the slave is intended to run kpropd out of inetd, make sure that inetd is configured to accept krb5_prop connections. inetd may need to be restarted or sent a SIGHUP to recognize the new configuration. If the slave is intended to run kpropd in standalone mode, make sure that it is running.
[18:06:54] <paulej72> running cron job for replication
[18:06:29] <paulej72> NCommander: /usr/sbin/kprop: Connection refused while connecting to server
[18:05:27] <xlefay> @ NCommander ^
[18:05:00] <xlefay> How's you doing though? Aren't you somewhere in Germany now?
[18:04:11] <xlefay> NCommander: did you document this particular issue? I suggest, we set up a sysops bug tracker so we can keep track of these things and such. I think I set Twiki up on boron but that was a -long- time ago, not sure if that has bug tracking capabilities.
[18:04:00] <NCommander> No, just kpropd, which I think is a seperate init script
[18:03:38] <paulej72> NCommander: does the kdc on boron need to be runnning for that
[18:02:55] <NCommander> (on helium)
[18:02:49] <NCommander> And try running krb5 replication manually (the command is i the crontab)
[18:02:46] <xlefay> NCommander: paulej72: it seems to work now. Just kinit'd as juggs.
[18:02:33] <NCommander> check krb5.conf, make sure its pointing at the right admin server
[18:01:46] <xlefay> paulej72: krb5-kdc
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[18:01:07] <xlefay> Thus, I must've checked helium directly. I figured, if kinit didn't work locally, it was due the syncing - but figured that "kadmin" would simply connect to the local, which was part of the confusion, since the principles did show up there.
[18:00:32] <xlefay> NCommander: correct, I used kadmin, but I didn't use kadmin.local
[18:00:06] <paulej72> NCommander: it says krb5kdc serverice not found. and I do not see it in /etc/init.d
[17:59:10] <NCommander> If you're using standard kadmin, it will talk to the krb5 admin server, which SHOULD be pointed at helium
[17:58:53] <NCommander> paulej72, you can use kadmin.local command to specifically check the stash on each machine
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[17:57:10] <paulej72> NCommander: xlefay seems to think that the accounts were on the local krb server for boron, I’ll try what you just posted
[17:56:19] <mrcoolbp> shit, gotta run out, BBL
[17:56:07] <NCommander> paulej72, kill the KDC on boron (service krb5kdc stop), and then see if it works
[17:55:52] <NCommander> Which is really irritating
[17:55:46] <NCommander> paulej72, likely issues with syncing from helium
[17:55:06] <paulej72> NCommander: xlefay and I can’t seem to get kinit working on boron. any of the new accounts we created are not showing up when you kinit from boron, but are fine from the other nodes. Any idea what may be causing this
[17:52:50] <mrcoolbp> nice, how's AK treating you?
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[17:52:13] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, I'm around
[17:45:56] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: feel free to change back to full urls, I just wanted to get the rest of the links back (it was just logs before)
[17:39:28] <mrcoolbp> I was thinking this would look cleaner, but they aren't linking automagically for me in this form
[17:38:14] <paulej72> would be better if they were all full urls but I am not sure if we have the space available in the topic.
[17:37:43] <mrcoolbp> thanks.
[17:37:31] <mrcoolbp> there, that should do it
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[17:37:25] <mrcoolbp> .topic https://SoylentNews.org | IRC Logs: logs.sylnt.us/ | Wiki: sylnt.us/wiki | Code: sylnt.us/code | Got bugs? sylnt.us/bugs | Get Involved: sylnt.us/getinvolved | Who's Who: sylnt.us/whoswho | Submit Stories: sylnt.us/submit |
[17:37:14] <paulej72> the topic has only a full url on the append you just did. I am not sure who set the rest but it looks funny
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[17:37:12] <mrcoolbp> .topic https://SoylentNews.org | IRC Logs: logs.sylnt.us/ | Wiki: sylnt.us/wiki | Code: sylnt.us/code | Got bugs? sylnt.us/bugs | Get Involved: sylnt.us/getinvolved | Who's Who: sylnt.us/whoswho | Submit Stories: http://sylnt.us |
[17:36:23] <SedBot2> <mrcoolbp> what'd I do
[17:36:22] <mrcoolbp> s/'s/'d/
[17:36:09] <mrcoolbp> what's I do
[17:35:55] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: one one of these things is not like the other, one of these things is not the same.
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[17:28:23] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: ping
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[17:09:33] <mrcoolbp> .topicappend submit stories: http://sylnt.us
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[17:07:52] <mrcoolbp> .topic https://SoylentNews.org | IRC Logs: logs.sylnt.us/ | Wiki: sylnt.us/wiki | Code: sylnt.us/code | Got bugs? sylnt.us/bugs | Get Involved: sylnt.us/getinvolved | Who's Who: sylnt.us/whoswho |
[17:07:29] <Blackmoore> goddamn mozilla. update broke my session.
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[17:06:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 441
[17:06:49] <Blackmoore> coffee++
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[17:02:26] <mrcoolbp> .op
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[16:40:12] <Bender> Added quote 212
[16:40:11] <mrcoolbp> !grab aqu4
[16:39:40] <aqu4> I last saw NCommander at 2014-07-22 10:19:24 UTC in #soylent. Their most recent message is "I got a serious cause of the munchies"
[16:39:40] <mrcoolbp> $seen NCommander
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[15:36:12] <Bytram|away> laters!
[15:36:10] <Bytram|away> okay, i *really* gtg
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[15:32:56] <Azrael> paulej72: you're too forgiving :)
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[15:27:17] <monopoly> ^ 03Apple responds to complaint over diagnostic 'back doors' in iOS - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[15:27:16] <Bytram|away> http://feedproxy.google.com
[15:25:41] <Bytram|away> nod nod
[15:25:29] <stdhell> Yes.
[15:25:19] * Bytram|away waits and waits and waits for FF to check his addons
[15:25:05] * Bytram|away has no such keys on his kbd... would I be able to cut-and-paste?
[15:24:35] <stdhell> At least not for me and a lot of others...
[15:24:15] <stdhell> Yes. Ctrl-shift-u E 6 shift and stuff like that still works, but just pressing on the keyboard doesn't.
[15:23:36] <stdhell> It should be fixed in version 37.
[15:23:31] <Bytram|away> stdhell: you mean like utf-8 stuff?
[15:23:08] <stdhell> Bytram|away: If/when you install chromium, be careful about version 35 and 36, if you want to use non-ANSI input.
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[15:20:08] * Bytram|away notices that during this upgrade, FF failed to *ask* if I wanted it to automatically check and apply updates :/
[15:19:22] <Bytram|away> good suggestion, tho!
[15:19:12] <Bytram|away> hasn't tried that one... has a creaky old laptop with dying hard disk... doesn't want to go too overboard until can get replacement
[15:18:59] <Bender> karma - bacon: 240
[15:18:59] <stdhell> bacon++
[15:18:57] <stdhell> Mmm... Bacon...
[15:18:32] <stdhell> Bytram|away: Chromium?
[15:18:18] * Bytram|away likes to use Lynx on occasion, too.
[15:18:07] * Bytram|away does not like feeding the googles or the apples with any more info than necessary, does have pale moon that he's testing out, too.
[15:17:46] <paulej72> and I need to get lunch
[15:17:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> much as i love this spirited exploration of logic, i need to phone the lawyer i avoided talking to yesterday.
[15:17:05] * stdhell wishes Bytram|away luck and wonders why he's using firefox.
[15:17:04] <paulej72> Azrael: sometimes you get kicked out of an account before you have a chance to fix evertyting that uses it.
[15:16:28] <Bender> karma - plusses: 1
[15:16:28] <stdhell> plusses++
[15:15:47] <Bender> karma - 440: 1
[15:15:47] <paulej72> 440++
[15:15:41] * Bytram|away is updating firefox... wish me luck
[15:15:41] <Azrael> stdhell: downside is it rewards sloppy planning from users. if they are getting rid of old address they should damn well change all places that use it first, or suffer
[15:15:35] <Bender> karma - azrael: 3
[15:15:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> Azrael++
[15:15:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 440
[15:15:29] <Bytram|away> coffee++
[15:15:19] <Bender> karma - azrael: 2
[15:15:19] <stdhell> Azrael++
[15:15:09] <Bender> karma - azrael: 1
[15:15:09] <Bytram|away> Azrael++
[15:14:57] <stdhell> Azrael: That might work...
[15:14:41] <stdhell> Both options can give you a locked account.
[15:14:33] <Azrael> allow change but notify old address with link to notify admin in case of abuse?
[15:14:05] <stdhell> In those cases, maybe you would have to contact one of the admins?
[15:14:00] <paulej72> beat me to it TheMightyBuzzard
[15:13:42] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 25
[15:13:41] <Bytram|away> TheMightyBuzzard++
[15:13:40] <paulej72> stdhell: what would happen if you lost access to the old email and were updating you email address on all of your accounts. that would lock you out.
[15:13:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> stdhell, you'd also be unable to change addresses if you lost an old account like say from graduating from college.
[15:13:03] <stdhell> On the third hand (?), how often do you change your email address and can you live with having to click two links when you do?
[15:12:19] <stdhell> On the other hand, having to click on two links would be a bit annoying.
[15:12:11] <paulej72> would have to have the admin side of things bypass the check and set it directly.
[15:12:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> now the question: do we care enough that they all have valid email addresses to make that anything but very low priority?
[15:11:56] <stdhell> I can't decide if it would be a good idea to send an email to the old address too. If someone cracks your SoylentNews password, you might not want them to change both you're email-address and your password, so you won't be able to ever log in again.
[15:10:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[15:10:04] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: slash does it own email sending, we just forward through the mail server.
[15:08:33] <paulej72> stdhell: that would require a lot of rewriting, but I was thinking the same thing. Put the new email in the a sperate field, send a confirmation email with a link that goes back to the edit apage and approves the email address and sets the new one to the current. the linke woould be a rand num generatd and stored witht the new email
[15:08:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, local-ish anyway
[15:07:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i assumed we were dumping it off to a local mailserver.
[15:07:51] <stdhell> So fix that instead. :-)
[15:07:42] <stdhell> I thought you were... I think you should. :-)
[15:07:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't looked.
[15:07:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> are we?
[15:07:09] <stdhell> So it's that the same thing?
[15:07:01] <stdhell> You're using a perl module to send the email, right?
[15:06:41] <stdhell> Trying to send an email will take care of this, right?
[15:06:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> let the error happen in the perl rather than in the mail client.
[15:06:19] <stdhell> ... And you already do it when signing up, so you can probably reuse most of the existing code.
[15:06:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> stdhell, yeah, prolly have to. might as well make sure it's a validly formatted one and that an mx record exists though.
[15:05:39] <stdhell> That's a pretty standardized way.
[15:05:24] <stdhell> TheMightyBuzzard: Send email asking the user to click a link... Wait for user to click on link.
[15:05:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> right
[15:04:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> think we'll go with Mail::CheckUser, though not bother with checking the account exists because that's not reported in a standardized way.
[15:04:42] <stdhell> Anyway, my point is that is I want to change my email address to "foo@example.com", but mistype the address as "bar@example.com", it's not enough to check if the address looks valid. You'll have to send an email to see if it gets to the right user.
[15:03:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, nod nod
[15:03:14] <stdhell> No, Mail::RFC822::Address.
[15:02:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> stdhell, you're looking at Mail::CheckUser, yes?
[15:02:06] <stdhell> Not "it does receive emails"...
[15:02:03] <Bytram|away> that's what *this* module supercedes
[15:01:57] <stdhell> _suntactically valid_
[15:01:51] <Bytram|away> see also: RFC::RFC822::Address
[15:01:48] <stdhell> TheMightyBuzzard: According to the link: "The one useful check that can be performed on an address is to check that the email address is syntactically valid. That is what this module does."
[15:01:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram|away, we have nothing now that i know of.
[15:01:34] <Bytram|away> what we have now, or the new stuff?
[15:01:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> well tries to check if the account exists at least.
[15:01:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> stdhell, it checks the formation, checks for valid mx records, and checks if the account exists.
[15:00:44] <stdhell> Checking whether the email address "looks right" is just silly and useless.
[15:00:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like this one though. looks to be pretty comprehensive.
[15:00:22] <stdhell> You already sent an email when people sign up. Why not send one more, when they want to change their email address?
[14:59:54] * Bytram|away just closed about a dozen tabs :/
[14:59:46] <Bytram|away> maybe that one has fewer dependencies...
[14:59:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram|away, i don't think we validated at all before.
[14:59:35] <Bytram|away> iow we could use the module that this one supercedes.
[14:59:11] <Bytram|away> TheMightyBuzzard: wasn't this validation module intended to supercede a prior one, and this one's main 'claim-to-fame' was that it *loaded* faster, but shouldn't be an issue as we are a load-and-run-forever kind of process, right?
[14:59:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> lol, famous last words. aight.
[14:58:35] <paulej72> we already have external dependnecies. what are a few more
[14:58:18] <Bytram|away> I hope to be back in a few hours or so.
[14:58:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, i'll leave it up to you. it's a judgment call on whether it's worth the external dependencies.
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[14:57:50] <Bytram> okay, time's a flying by here. I gtg
[14:57:38] <Bytram> I'm sure you have good intentions but I've no sense if they are common or not. =)
[14:56:21] <stdhell> Bytram: Atleast one of those is a real perl module...
[14:56:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> the two have conflicting exported subs
[14:55:55] <Bytram> ROFL!!!!!!
[14:55:36] <stdhell> use common::sense;
[14:55:33] <stdhell> use good::intentions;
[14:55:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> Net::DNS would have to be grabbed too
[14:54:29] * Bytram notices it is paved with good intentions :/
[14:53:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> checking for dependency hell
[14:52:52] <monopoly> ^ 03Mail::RFC822::Address - Perl extension for validating email addresses according to RFC822
[14:52:52] <ciri> 14Title(03iso8859-1 14/ 03441.279ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/mgvhglf 14 )[0]: 03Mail::RFC822::Address - Perl extension for validating email addresses according to RFC822
[14:52:51] <Bytram> the license in the documentation suggests that should not be a problem: http://ex-parrot.com
[14:52:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds good
[14:51:54] <ciri> 14Title(03iso8859-1 14/ 03653.18ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/2xhbh4 14 )[0]: 03Mail::CheckUser - search.cpan.org
[14:51:54] <monopoly> ^ 03Mail::CheckUser - search.cpan.org
[14:51:53] <paulej72> http://search.cpan.org
[14:51:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> we could just copy a module into our codebase if it has a compatible license
[14:49:32] <Bytram> beware that if you change the validation, there may be pre-existing *invalid* e-mail addresses
[14:48:12] <paulej72> When a user signs up, they have to provide a valid email to get their password. Nothing then stops them from putting in an invaild one later. would be nice if we could ping the account to
[14:48:02] <ciri> 14Title(03iso8859-1 14/ 03278.422ms. 14/ 12http://ex-parrot.com/~pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address/Mail-RFC822-Address.html 14 )[0]: 03Mail::RFC822::Address - Perl extension for validating email addresses according to RFC822
[14:47:59] <monopoly> ^ 03Mail::RFC822::Address - Perl extension for validating email addresses according to RFC822
[14:47:59] <Bytram> http://ex-parrot.com
[14:47:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, didn't notice it WAS a perl module
[14:47:29] <ciri> 14Title(03iso8859-1 14/ 03287.303ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/n6j7fzz 14 )[0]: 0314Application (03application/gzip14). Size: 035.241Kb14.
[14:47:29] <Bytram> link to download; http://ex-parrot.com
[14:47:10] <Bytram> "Mail::RFC822::Address is a Perl module to validate email addresses...
[14:46:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. we can pull it in if it's worth another external module dependency to you.
[14:46:17] <paulej72> Mail::Checkuser
[14:46:02] <paulej72> Data::Validate::Email
[14:45:44] <paulej72> Email::Valid
[14:45:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's probably a perl module to control a toaster over a serial cable.
[14:45:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely
[14:45:07] <paulej72> is there a perl module for that
[14:44:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause i mean, holy plentiful punctuation, batman
[14:43:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> same one, #136
[14:43:32] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: which issue?
[14:43:08] <ciri> 14Title(03iso8859-1 14/ 03487.462ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/o23un 14 )[0]: 03Mail::RFC822::Address
[14:43:06] <monopoly> ^ 03Mail::RFC822::Address
[14:43:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, you absolutely certain we want to validate properly formed email addresses? cause here's the regex for it: http://ex-parrot.com
[14:43:01] <paulej72> that puts them on gitub.
[14:42:24] <Bytram> the file is local to my pc.
[14:42:15] <Bytram> okay... does that upload the image to github? Or just make a link to the file?
[14:41:38] <paulej72> Attach images by dragging & dropping or selecting them. (from the comment box on gitub
[14:41:33] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 24
[14:41:33] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[14:41:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheers
[14:41:05] <paulej72> gitub
[14:40:48] <Bytram> paulej72: is there a standard place on one of our servers for us to post images for github bug reports?
[14:40:27] <paulej72> merged
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[14:37:02] <monopoly> ^ 03Fix for the race condition paulej72 described in #136. by TheMightyBuzzard · Pull Request #252 · SoylentNews/slashc...
[14:37:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, in. https://github.com
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[14:32:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, yeah, i try and keep up to date
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[14:31:27] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: was it an up-to-date master. If so create a pull request and I’ll approve asap.
[14:30:43] * Bytram tosses a couple asprin and a pillow to TheMightyBuzzard
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[14:29:17] * TheMightyBuzzard headdesks
[14:29:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> damnit, i did that from master instead of a branch again.
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[14:23:22] <xlefay> Sure :)
[14:23:09] <Bytram> pm
[14:23:05] <xlefay> Bytram: define 'reserve'?
[14:22:07] <paulej72> rand: you should group rand_ with your nick. /msg nickserv help group
[14:22:04] <Bytram> hmmm, that reminds me... who has super-duper powers here? I've got a nick I want to reserve on IRC
[14:21:47] <SoyGuest17288> I was susing Konversation, then Pidgin, today it's HexChat. Same problems with all.
[14:21:08] <Bytram> you might want to try typing a little faster
[14:21:07] <SoyGuest17288> Good mornin' Bytram
[14:21:01] <paulej72> what client are you using again to connect. I think your issue is that it is setting your nick to rand_ and trying to connect, but nickserve does not recognixe that as a valid nick.
[14:20:44] <SoyGuest17288> paulej72: Finally. I was connected two hours then BAM off again.
[14:20:40] * Bytram starts a D/L of FF 24.7.0.esr
[14:20:08] <Bytram> rand: g'day!
[14:19:59] <Bytram> might provide guidance cleaning up the code and making clear what should [not] be done and how and why
[14:19:45] <paulej72> rand it looks like you finally made it
[14:19:21] <xlefay> (not sure why that's relevant, just thought it's funny)
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[14:18:55] <xlefay> paulej72: aah thanks. Anyway, just read what you said about logic in the templates. Essentially what you described is what twig/django's templating language, etc. Allow as well, the syntax is also remarkably similar.
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[14:18:44] <Bytram> LOL!
[14:18:38] <Soyeti> peak-a-boo
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[14:17:45] <Bytram> yeti: peak-a-boo
[14:17:41] <paulej72> peak is the top of a mountain
[14:17:26] <paulej72> peek
[14:17:17] <xlefay> peek or peak?
[14:17:03] <xlefay> I just took a peak and it seems similar, but less neat
[14:16:56] <paulej72> xlefay: never used that so I would not know.
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[14:15:42] <xlefay> I wonder if that templating language looks like django's/twig's templating system
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[14:15:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> got the hidden happening, now the logic back in users.pl
[14:14:50] <paulej72> so there are parts of the template that are code heavy that have the big code blocks, and other sections that are just ouput and thus just need vars put into html
[14:14:26] <Bytram> paulej72: ahhhh, that 'splains it. UGH!
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[14:13:35] <paulej72> you are susposed to do all of the logic in perl and just present with the template engine. But the template engine has coding langusage (it can do conditionals and loops and other simple stuff). This leads to logic being done in the template. Slash has a bad habbit of doing stuff in the template that should really be done in the perl scripts and the reverse.
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[14:05:59] <Bytram> idk, never coded in it
[14:05:49] <Bytram> that suggests that there is something wrong with the template abstraction where there is something you need to access at that level but is not available from it?
[14:05:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice
[14:04:32] <paulej72> then there is three ways to do things. All template code ( big blocks between [% %] ), html with template code interdispersed for vars, and then html with perl vars. And our code switches between the three whenever it feels like it. I tried refacoring some code onec and it never worked so I had two sections of the same template file that were coded in two different styles.
[14:01:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i should read them one of these days.
[14:00:20] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: that is how I am with them. Then you see somthing strange and can’t figure it out. so you look at the docs for days and finally it is there in some obscure part of the docs.
[13:59:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, ya, i can actually understand em. i just don't like em.
[13:58:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, such is life. there's always gotta be something to annoy you or you get to thinking you're too awesome.
[13:58:34] <monopoly> ^ 03Template Toolkit Documentation
[13:58:33] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03665.712ms.14)[0]: 03Template Toolkit Documentation
[13:58:33] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: http://template-toolkit.org
[13:57:38] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: so you get to learn perl template coding. a language in and of itself. somewhat like perl but not quite. Do I need a ; maybe?
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[13:54:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> templates stole my bike
[13:52:13] * TheMightyBuzzard grunbles
[13:50:15] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03805.884ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/m5qwyz2 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | Verizon Caught Throttling Netflix Traffic Even After it Pays for More Bandwidth
[13:50:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Verizon Caught Throttling Netflix Traffic Even After it Pays for More Bandwidth - http://sylnt.us - rule-1-Don't-get-caught
[13:46:56] <paulej72> lol
[13:46:46] <Bytram> =)
[13:46:38] <Bytram> select this if you do not want us to ignore hiding this option
[13:46:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:46:05] <paulej72> unless the negitive is a good thing ( turn on do-not-track )
[13:45:16] <paulej72> hate interfaces where positive means negitive
[13:45:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> okey doke. back to the drawing board then.
[13:44:46] <paulej72> that would not be good.
[13:44:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> we could switch it to checked-means-ignore i guess.
[13:44:13] <paulej72> my way is the correct way then. Send a list and put it in a hidden var. enumerator over said list
[13:43:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, that's what the line earlier would have done but it appears undef and unchecked are the same.
[13:43:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep
[13:43:06] <paulej72> and you need to figure out if the var is there and set to unchecked or just missing. !$form->{$key} is true for both of thoes conditions, but it should check for exsitance
[13:43:02] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: so, you only see the *checked* boxes?
[13:42:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[13:41:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, it doesn't.
[13:40:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> can find out real quick
[13:40:02] <paulej72> not sure if an unchecked box get sent a part of the form vars
[13:39:53] * Bytram prefers polka-dots
[13:39:38] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: the problem is that we are using checkboxes which are either checked or unchecked.
[13:39:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> that way checking $form{key} and getting undef because the author was not in the list does not qualify for the if block.
[13:37:25] <Bender> karma - monopoly: 6
[13:37:25] <Bytram> monopoly++
[13:37:17] <Bytram> yeah... saw him in another channel and invited him over here.
[13:36:47] <paulej72> monopoly is back
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[13:36:35] <monopoly> ^ 03Princeton University - Home
[13:36:35] <ciri> 14Title(03ISO-8859-1 14/ 03461.354ms.14)[0]: 03Princeton University - Home
[13:36:34] <paulej72> : http://www.princeton.edu
[13:36:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> xlefay, handy. thanks.
[13:36:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> if we if((defined$form->{$key}) && ($form->{$key} eq '0')) instead, should fix the issue, no?
[13:36:03] <xlefay> TheMightyBuzzard: lil tip, you can click on the line number & the link will change to reflect that, you can even select an entire block by clicking the initial number & then shift+click the line you want to stop :)
[13:35:05] <monopoly> ^ 03slashcode/themes/default/htdocs/users.pl at master · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub
[13:35:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://github.com line 2947
[13:34:54] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: not sure if that is easily done with how vars are passed in forms never looked into if empty vars from forms are passed as such or just not sent
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[13:33:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was thinking just treat undef and zero differently
[13:33:03] <Bytram> paulej72: perfect!
[13:32:37] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: the code should pass a hidden var that is a list of the authors ids in that table. when writing the prefs, enumerate over the list sent rather than the one generated from the data base
[13:32:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, sec.. check my logic on this?
[13:31:30] <Bytram> paulej72: I may be confusing this with something else? The author's first story comes up as having the author of someone else? Or no author at all? can't remember.
[13:30:28] <Bytram> paulej72: nod nod
[13:30:15] <Bytram> do your thing with what you've got and I'll remind you when you're ready.
[13:29:52] <paulej72> I think that there is an issue if we set an author flag on a user, slash does not count them as an author until they edit somthing
[13:29:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> have no idea. couldn't understand what you just said. brain is parsing in perl rather than english right now.
[13:29:01] <Bytram> iow, I'm trying to set a value on something that is no longer there.
[13:28:35] <Bytram> but, if I bring up the list of authors to choose from, and one is then removed from the list, and then I go to save my changes, there'd be no issue?
[13:27:55] <Bytram> hmm, so it's a corner case of not being able to deselect viewing an author who hasn't posted anything in a while anyway...
[13:26:55] <SedBot2> <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, that would only be necessary if you wanted to hide their previous stories.
[13:26:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/story/stories/
[13:26:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, that would only be necessary if you wanted to hide their previous story.
[13:26:36] * Bytram does not know if that has happened already or not?
[13:26:06] <Bytram> I'm thinking that in a few years, there may be authors who haven't submitted in a long while who would be removed from the list?
[13:25:21] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: while you are at it, might want to add code to check for the reverse situation? i.e., an author is removed from the list of authors?
[13:24:48] <Bytram> great!
[13:24:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i have it
[13:22:59] <Bytram> good luck!
[13:22:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> working out the logic in my head now
[13:22:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> depending on if that's possible as the vars stand
[13:21:37] <Bytram> yuppers
[13:20:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, just change it to default allow rather than default deny
[13:19:46] <Bytram> so, when the time comes to save the user's prefs, if the current list of authors does not match the list of authors you recorded when they entered the page, kick up a message or something?
[13:19:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's not what it looks like the logic does though
[13:19:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> at least that's how i read the bug report
[13:19:00] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:18:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> it shouldn't be but the author didn't exist when the list was populated by the user, so couldn't have a check mark.
[13:17:31] <Bytram> oh, the default is that the newly-added user becomes, umm, invisible, to the user?
[13:16:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> the new author winds up in story_never_author for that user.
[13:16:29] <Bytram> I'm following you so far... then what happens?
[13:15:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> user opens preferences page, new author is added, user saves preferences.
[13:15:47] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nod nod
[13:15:39] * Bytram is reminded of "When Worlds Collide"
[13:15:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, when the two collide
[13:14:48] <Bytram> btw I have mod points; if anyone has seen a bad mod, pls let me know
[13:14:24] <Bytram> interesting! race condition when the *user* updates the list to add/remove an author from their list? Or when a new author *appears* for selection?
[13:12:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's a race condition when adding new authors
[13:12:14] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: so it's not properly handling the user's prefs?
[13:11:50] <Bytram> TK: mornin!
[13:11:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin
[13:11:33] <TK> mornin' (ladies and) gents
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[13:10:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think i might be able to fix the bug in the logic that sets the preference, which would by far be the best solution.
[13:09:44] <Bytram> hmm, ok. what's the issue?
[13:09:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:09:21] <Bytram> oh, from the user's preferences page?
[13:09:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> lets you exclude stories by n1 or whoever
[13:09:06] <monopoly> ^ 03SoylentNews: Authors
[13:09:06] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03319.248ms.14)[0]: 03SoylentNews: Authors
[13:09:05] <Bytram> you mean from here? http://soylentnews.org
[13:08:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> of the site
[13:08:48] <Bytram> index page of authors?
[13:08:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> excludes authors from index page on a per-user basis
[13:06:14] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: not sure what that flag(?) means/does?
[13:06:03] <Bytram> back
[13:05:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima think on it a bit while i coffee
[13:04:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can write a better script than just emptying everyone's story_never_author field that could be run after adding a new author. not sure that's a good solution though.
[13:03:20] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders the story_never_author issue
[13:01:11] <paulej72> better to manage the trouble makers
[13:01:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:00:55] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: all staff have op privs in #Soylent
[12:58:31] <crutchy> i'm a mountain man, cos i like mountain women
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[12:57:56] <Bytram> afk
[12:57:13] * Bytram notes programmers have a somewhat violent language: mount, execute, kill...
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[12:51:58] <crutchy> exec doesn't care though. it just executes :-D
[12:50:51] <Bytram> ==)
[12:50:49] <Bytram> iow, nvm
[12:50:46] <crutchy> yeah i dunno. it's different to what i'm used to with php which just uses $argv
[12:50:44] <Bytram> I suspect it is taking advantage of some shell capabilities to instantiate the value for use by the script
[12:50:16] * Bytram does not have a debian/linux environment to play with
[12:49:08] <Bytram> yep, looks like you are invoking it as documented, but I'm not sure how it gets the value from the args
[12:46:38] * Bytram scurries off to look at the docs
[12:46:30] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:46:24] <crutchy> the file with the missing line is what is running atm
[12:46:19] <Bytram> hmmm
[12:46:18] <Bytram> then again, I may be mistaken... that's the formatting for args to 'gawk', not necesssarily to the program.
[12:46:04] <crutchy> seems to work though
[12:45:56] <crutchy> refer usage
[12:45:48] <monopoly> ^ 03sedbot/README.md at master · FoobarBazbot/sedbot · GitHub
[12:45:47] * crutchy copied it from https://github.com
[12:45:40] * crutchy has no idea
[12:45:32] <Bytram> ^^-here
[12:45:10] <Bytram> ./sedbot.awk -v outfile=/home/jared/irc/irc.sylnt.us/#test/in
[12:44:45] <Bytram> I'm not sure, but I think you need a '-v ' before setting the variable...
[12:43:10] <exec> [15971] tail -Fn1 ~/irc/irc.sylnt.us/#test/out
[12:43:10] <exec> [15938] tail -Fn1 /home/jared/irc/irc.sylnt.us/#test/out | ./sedbot.awk outfile=/home/jared/irc/irc.sylnt.us/#test/in
[12:43:10] <exec> [18674] tail -Fn1 ~/irc/irc.sylnt.us/##/out
[12:43:09] <exec> [18670] tail -Fn1 ~/irc/irc.sylnt.us/#soylent/out
[12:43:09] <exec> [18663] tail -Fn1 /home/jared/irc/irc.sylnt.us/##/out | ./sedbot.awk outfile=/home/jared/irc/irc.sylnt.us/##/in
[12:43:09] <exec> [18658] tail -Fn1 /home/jared/irc/irc.sylnt.us/#soylent/out | ./sedbot.awk outfile=/home/jared/irc/irc.sylnt.us/#soylent/in
[12:43:08] <exec> [18629] tail -Fn1 ~/irc/irc.sylnt.us/out
[12:43:08] <exec> [18625] ii -s irc.sylnt.us -p 6667 -n SedBot2 -f SedBot2
[12:43:07] <crutchy> ~ps
[12:42:53] <crutchy> Bytram: outfile is defined in the command line
[12:42:19] <Bytram> ~ps
[12:41:26] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03573.286ms. 14/ 12http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/07/22/217249&from=rss 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | Most Folks Decline UK ISP's Network Filters
[12:41:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Most Folks Decline UK ISP's Network Filters - http://sylnt.us - people-don't-want-to-be-censored
[12:41:19] * TheMightyBuzzard is looking for where we store the show only selected authors preference
[12:41:12] * Bytram is not sure where the stuff ends up going in that case.
[12:39:41] <Bytram> crutchy: so, looking at the two versions of sedbot, it looks like you removed the *definition* of outfile, but you still have two places in the code that refer to it. :/
[12:36:20] * Bytram wishes I could take credit for the last part of that but read it somewhere else a *long* time ago
[12:35:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[12:32:55] <Bytram> And the same temptations afflict us all. should there be any abuse, it'll be dealt with then. Can't make things entirely foolproof -- fools are so ingenious!
[12:32:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> done that before. takes the fun out of it if the fish all just float stunned to the surface.
[12:31:36] <crutchy> you might start using explosives when you go fishing
[12:31:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> power corrupts, no other reasons especially.
[12:29:43] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I see no reason that you should *not* have op powers available to you.
[12:21:44] * TheMightyBuzzard debates
[12:20:05] <crutchy> why? because you could :-D
[12:20:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> i prolly shouldn't have op powers in #Soylent though. am not an admin or irc guy or board guy, just a dev.
[12:18:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> gracias. little journey of self abuse is good for the sense of humor.
[12:18:20] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: wb!
[12:18:14] <Bytram> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
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[12:17:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> .kick TheMightyBuzzard
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[12:17:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> .op
[12:17:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[12:17:15] <Bytram> Almost Anything Goes!
[12:16:50] * TheMightyBuzzard gets his obscure 80s show reference on
[12:16:37] <Bytram> lol
[12:16:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea what else i can do. much like The Greatest American Hero, no instruction book.
[12:16:15] <Bytram> LOL!
[12:16:10] <Bender> karma - ( themightybuzzard voice ): 1
[12:16:10] <Bytram> ( TheMightyBuzzard voice )++
[12:15:58] <Bytram> hmmm
[12:15:51] <Bender> karma - voiced: 1
[12:15:51] <Bytram> voiced++
[12:15:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was already voiced. i just wanted to be more voiced
[12:15:32] <Bytram> good to see ya get promoted!
[12:15:13] <Bytram> sry; I shoulda noticed it earlier; would have done it myself!
[12:14:55] <Bytram> lol
[12:14:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> fear my double verboseness!
[12:14:49] <Bytram> It's about time!
[12:14:45] <Bytram> nod nod
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[12:14:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> .voice
[12:13:59] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03539.16ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/qb9uw7n 14 )[1]: 03Exotic state of matter propels quantum computing theory
[12:13:57] <monopoly> ^ 03Exotic state of matter propels quantum computing theory ( http://phys.org )
[12:13:56] <Bytram> http://phys.org
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[12:13:53] <Bytram> .deop
[12:13:48] <monopoly> Hi, Bytram
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[12:13:46] <Bytram> .op
[12:10:03] <Bytram> crutchy: so, I'm curious and don't feel like doing a diff... which line did you delete?
[12:09:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> at the time, maybe. nowadays i like CCR too and would put the boot to younger me.
[12:09:14] <Bytram> prolly made it sound better, too!
[12:09:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: LOL!
[12:08:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> tape you could save a program over your dad's creedence clearwater revival if you put a spitwad in the hole on top.
[12:08:25] <crutchy> brb
[12:08:20] <crutchy> lol
[12:08:13] <crutchy> not sure about tape/floppy diff
[12:08:08] <Bytram> floppy storage was *great*! Fast and HUGE!
[12:07:38] <crutchy> nah that looked c64'ish from vague memory
[12:07:24] <Bytram> or do I have my OSs confused?
[12:07:20] <crutchy> :-D
[12:07:18] <crutchy> press play on tape
[12:07:15] <Bytram> istr that loaded a program from floppy?
[12:07:04] <Bytram> load "foo",8,1
[12:06:57] <Bytram> hmmm,
[12:06:49] <crutchy> i think that's the oldest storage medium i've used though
[12:06:46] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:06:44] <Bytram> 7-bit ASCII, no parity!
[12:06:34] <crutchy> i remember cassettes for the c64
[12:06:20] <crutchy> lol
[12:06:15] <Bytram> offline storage was *easy*! paper tape
[12:06:11] <Bender> karma - rs232: 1
[12:06:11] <crutchy> rs232++
[12:05:54] <Bytram> 110-baud acoustically-coupled dialup access using a teletype FTW!
[12:05:42] * crutchy is glad he was born after punch cards
[12:05:17] <crutchy> lol
[12:05:12] <crutchy> i tried auto-indent in gedit but disabled it cos i don't like empty lines with indents
[12:05:08] <Bytram> editing a command was basically: eject punch card and try again
[12:04:27] * crutchy still doesn't use tab completion
[12:04:26] <Bytram> TOPS-10++
[12:04:14] <Bender> karma - vax: 1
[12:04:13] <Bytram> vax++
[12:04:08] <Bytram> tab-completion of a command was bleeding-edge!
[12:03:55] <Bytram> I started out with computers before there *were* shinies!
[12:03:40] * crutchy doesn't do shiny either
[12:03:25] * Bytram does not need/want shiny
[12:03:01] <crutchy> its good for servers. not quite as shiny as ubuntu
[12:02:42] <SedBot2> <Bytram> would love to have a phone/tablet that ran debian
[12:02:42] <Bytram> s/table/tablet/
[12:02:38] <crutchy> this is the sedbot that's running atm: https://github.com
[12:02:34] * Bytram would love to have a phone/table that ran debian
[12:02:01] <Bytram> I've not used debian before, but that's what I've heard, too.
[12:01:59] <crutchy> i deleted one line :-d
[12:01:54] <crutchy> the one that's running has 53
[12:01:29] * Bytram notes that sedbot actually has 54 lines
[12:00:26] <crutchy> debian is pretty rock steady though. didn't expect too much troubles
[12:00:08] <crutchy> none so far
[12:00:00] * SedBot2 is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[12:00:00] <crutchy> sedbot starts up with exec too now
[11:59:53] <Bytram> how'd the upgrade go? any side-effects?
[11:59:34] <Bytram> got it.
[11:59:30] <crutchy> yup
[11:59:25] <Bytram> nod nod, but where? On *your* server?
[11:59:14] <crutchy> can kill any of them with ~kill
[11:59:04] <crutchy> they're just child processes started by exec
[11:58:40] <Bytram> crutchy: very interesting! what system is it querying?
[11:58:35] * crutchy has no life
[11:58:24] <crutchy> that's my party trick :-d
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[11:58:14] <exec> [18629] tail -Fn1 ~/irc/irc.sylnt.us/out
[11:58:14] <exec> [18625] ii -s irc.sylnt.us -p 6667 -n SedBot2 -f SedBot2
[11:58:12] <crutchy> ~ps
[11:58:11] <crutchy> check this out:
[11:58:09] <Bytram> neat!
[11:58:01] <SedBot2> <Bytram> crutchy--
[11:58:01] <Bytram> s/++/--/
[11:57:46] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 87
[11:57:46] <Bytram> crutchy++
[11:57:39] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[11:57:39] <Bytram> !woop
[11:57:11] <crutchy> not for now thanks. i got sedbot entirely working under exec
[11:57:00] * Bytram had a LOT of fun with that one!
[11:56:49] <Bytram> crutchy: btw, any follow-up questions on regexp's??
[11:56:43] <crutchy> don't want bugs on vacation
[11:56:27] <Bytram> but, there's some UTF-8 testing to do, I've got some bugs to report, and well, you know, there's always sumthin!
[11:55:43] <Bytram> hoping to make it to the beach at least once, too.
[11:55:28] <Bytram> sounds nice, but what I really need is some motivation to go through a pile of papers and put 'm where they belong.
[11:54:46] <crutchy> need to find a shady tree and a good book?
[11:54:37] <Bytram> crutchy: things ain't lookin' to good for you there! :-P
[11:54:23] <crutchy> nod nod
[11:54:12] <Bytram> trying to catch up on some stuff around the place; on vacation this week and don't want to spend *all* of it here.
[11:54:01] <crutchy> :-d
[11:53:56] <crutchy> <exec> crappy
[11:53:51] <crutchy> ~forecast crutchy
[11:53:40] <crutchy> how you been?
[11:53:38] * Bytram wishes there was a way to get a weather *forecast*, too.
[11:53:27] <crutchy> not a good day today
[11:53:21] <Bytram> none to warm in your neck of the woods.
[11:53:02] <exec> wind speed = 2 mph (3.2 km/h) wind direction = 70°
[11:53:02] <exec> barometric pressure = 1020.9 mb ~ change of 0.6 mb over past 3 hrs relative humdity = 99%
[11:53:01] <exec> temperature = 40.3°F (4.6°C) dewpoint = 40.1°F (4.5°C)
[11:53:01] <exec> Weather for Morwell (latrobe Valley Airport), VIC, Australia at 2014-07-23 11:00:00 (UTC) ~ 0.9 hrs ago:
[11:52:57] <Bytram> ~weather crutchy
[11:52:52] <Bytram> same to you!
[11:52:46] <crutchy> g'day :-)
[11:52:44] <Bytram> $time_descriptor crutchy
[11:52:28] <Bytram> hrmmm?
[11:52:17] <crutchy> $time_descriptor Bytram
[11:51:58] <exec> wind speed = 4 mph (6.4 km/h) wind direction = 306°
[11:51:57] <exec> barometric pressure = 1013.7 mb ~ change of 0.2 mb over past 0.3 hrs relative humdity = 80%
[11:51:57] <exec> temperature = 73°F (22.8°C) dewpoint = 66.8°F (19.3°C)
[11:51:57] <exec> Weather for Boston, MA US at 2014-07-23 11:24:00 (UTC) ~ 0.5 hrs ago:
[11:51:53] <Bytram> ~weather Boston
[11:51:47] <Bytram> not as warm but still sticky. ugh.
[11:51:30] <exec> wind speed = 0 mph (0 km/h) wind direction = 0°
[11:51:29] <exec> barometric pressure = 1019.6 mb ~ change of 0 mb over past 0.3 hrs relative humdity = 100%
[11:51:29] <exec> temperature = 71.6°F (22°C) dewpoint = 71.6°F (22°C)
[11:51:29] <exec> Weather for Ada, Ada Municipal Airport, OK, United States at 2014-07-23 11:15:00 (UTC) ~ 0.6 hrs ago:
[11:51:22] <Bytram> ~weather TheMightyBuzzard
[11:51:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 439
[11:51:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++ damned right
[11:51:03] <Bytram> ~wweather TheMightyBuzzard
[11:50:57] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4571, owned by Neerajkuamar
[11:50:57] <Bytram> !uid
[11:50:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 438
[11:50:52] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:50:49] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: g'morning!
[11:50:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> dynamic rss with proper http/https detection.
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[11:49:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[11:49:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Bytram
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[11:47:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> funky
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[11:43:34] <crutchy> cat o 7 tails :-d
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[11:43:00] <exec> [18625] ii -s irc.sylnt.us -p 6667 -n SedBot2 -f SedBot2
[11:42:59] <crutchy> ~ps
[11:42:24] <crutchy> ~sedbot-cmd /j #test
[11:42:06] <crutchy> ~sedbot-tail3
[11:41:57] <crutchy> ~sedbot-awk3
[11:41:52] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file
[11:41:51] <crutchy> ~rehash
[11:38:17] * crutchy opens exec config to add sedbot2 to #test
[11:37:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> apache2 is out until after metamod. need before shiny new toys
[11:36:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, eh, not really
[11:32:32] <crutchy> unfortunately we might not see you for a week or two
[11:31:25] <crutchy> you could always apache2'ify slash... if you're feeling particularly masochistic
[11:30:23] <crutchy> find anything juicy?
[11:20:43] * TheMightyBuzzard sifts through the issues list looking for something he feels like working on
[11:16:47] <crutchy> nod nod
[11:08:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> bacon, while awesome, is not strictly necessary for life the way coffee is
[11:05:48] <Bender> karma - bacon: 239
[11:05:48] <crutchy> bacon++
[11:05:42] <crutchy> lol poor bacon :-d
[11:05:36] <Bender> karma of bacon is 238
[11:05:36] <crutchy> !karma bacon
[11:05:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 437
[11:05:22] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:05:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 436
[11:05:19] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:05:13] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 23
[11:05:13] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard++
[11:05:10] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 22
[11:05:10] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard++
[11:04:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 435
[11:04:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:04:26] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 86
[11:04:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy++
[11:02:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 434
[11:02:13] <crutchy> coffee++
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[11:02:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hot(Tub) Wheels: Cadillac Carpool - http://sylnt.us - Big-Splash
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[10:52:59] * crutchy tries in vein to push that image out of his mind
[10:52:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> brb, was kernel in that update
[10:52:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, yeah. normally update on monday but i'm dragging ass this week.
[10:52:24] <crutchy> what's new?
[10:52:07] <rand> good morning, crutchy
[10:51:43] <crutchy> g'day rand
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[10:51:31] <crutchy> using arch?
[10:49:34] * TheMightyBuzzard gets his yaourt -Syu --aur on
[10:49:26] * crutchy makes note to never recommend nts-online.net
[10:48:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> web looks like
[10:48:20] <crutchy> i wonder what client he using
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[10:47:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> bungee-rand
[10:47:13] <crutchy> o.0
[10:46:47] <crutchy> yeah
[10:46:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, those were join/parts
[10:46:08] <crutchy> oh
[10:46:06] <crutchy> g'day rand
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[10:45:38] <crutchy> rand is really not having much luck with his connection
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[10:32:48] <prospectacle> maccas fries++
[10:30:41] <crutchy> mmm cold fries... yummy :-/
[10:30:02] * crutchy is eating maccas
[10:29:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> not yet it's not but give me time to get some of this coffee in me and it should be
[10:28:52] <exec> [Google] 5:28am Wednesday (CDT) - Time in Chicago, IL, USA
[10:28:51] <crutchy> ~time chicago
[10:28:26] <crutchy> g'day TheMightyBuzzard
[10:28:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 433
[10:28:16] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:28:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 432
[10:28:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:19:54] <prospectacle> hi crutchy
[10:19:46] <crutchy> g'day prospectacle
[10:19:11] <Alberto> interesting
[10:15:31] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03512.323ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/kzz5pe6 14 )[0]: 03psyche rock (Full Version) - YouTube
[10:15:29] <prospectacle> fun fact, 90% of the futurama theme (Officially composed by Christopher Tyng) was written in 1967 by a guy called pierre henry http://www.youtube.com
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[10:08:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 431
[10:08:35] <crutchy> coffee++
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[09:30:59] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03531.263ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/kkwfytl 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | Amazon is Paying its Employees to Quit
[09:30:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon is Paying its Employees to Quit - http://sylnt.us - Love-it-or-Leave-it
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[09:05:08] <prospectacle> Looks like the person has a big mole on their face
[09:04:44] <prospectacle> is it just me or do those skin-colour face-mics look worse than the more obvious ones
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[09:00:57] <Alberto> smoking? :P
[09:00:52] <Alberto> o.O
[08:54:59] * Konomi coughs up a lung
[08:54:54] * Konomi coughs
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[08:36:12] <Alberto> me too lol
[08:10:52] <arti> i'm not familiar at all with perl
[08:05:01] <Alberto> want to join me? :P
[08:03:19] <arti> sounds like a good project
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[08:02:49] <Alberto> :D
[08:02:49] <Alberto> wich give me the stats of all my servers
[08:02:42] <Alberto> i will code a bot
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[07:58:02] <arti> you could always find a project and begin by tinkering with it
[07:57:13] <arti> then work on implementing those bits iteratively
[07:56:51] <arti> something i've found helpful is to understand what you're attempting without the code
[07:56:33] <arti> there are different ways to approach a project
[07:56:09] * Alberto is coding a bot in perl by just "doing it"
[07:55:57] <Alberto> without know anything of that?
[07:55:51] <Alberto> how a person can understand coding
[07:55:42] <Alberto> arti
[07:52:12] * SedBot2 is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[07:52:12] <chromas> SedBot2: get into #test, mister!
[07:52:10] <arti> probably combing someones hair
[07:51:53] * Alberto expects some magic stuff to happen o.O
[07:51:37] <chromas> s/(*)/👍/g
[07:51:36] <Alberto> WE INVOKE YOU CRUTCHY!
[07:51:21] <arti> crutchy should be here by now
[07:51:11] <arti> this game sucks :P
[07:51:09] <chromas> s/.(*)/👍/g
[07:51:02] <arti> s/tiggles/chromas/g
[07:50:48] <chromas> Hm
[07:50:45] <SedBot2> <chromas> <arti> 👍
[07:50:44] <chromas> arti: s/(.*)/👍/g
[07:50:42] <arti> thanks, we're drowning here
[07:50:33] <SedBot2> <chromas> <arti> 👍
[07:50:33] <chromas> arti: s/.*/👍/g
[07:50:14] <Alberto> g/ok/hello/
[07:50:09] <Alberto> ok ok ok ok
[07:49:56] <arti> g replaces every match
[07:49:44] <arti> g/hello/death/
[07:49:34] <SedBot2> <Alberto> g/hello/hello/
[07:49:33] <Alberto> s/hola/hello/
[07:49:30] <Alberto> g/hola/hello/
[07:49:26] <Alberto> l/hola/hello/
[07:49:18] <Alberto> hola
[07:49:12] <arti> l is another
[07:49:07] <arti> g is one
[07:48:40] <arti> lol
[07:48:33] * SedBot2 is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[07:48:32] <Alberto> SedBot2, help
[07:48:29] <Alberto> i/ok/poop/
[07:48:22] <Alberto> g/ok/poop/
[07:48:21] <Alberto> ok
[07:48:18] <Alberto> g/ok/poop/
[07:48:08] <arti> g/ok/nokay/
[07:48:06] <SedBot2> <Alberto> poop
[07:48:06] <Alberto> s/ok/poop/
[07:48:00] <Alberto> ok
[07:47:59] <Alberto> mine only
[07:47:58] <arti> i think g is the other one
[07:47:54] <arti> it uses your last line
[07:47:49] <arti> because there wasn't present
[07:47:44] <Alberto> didn't work
[07:47:37] <Alberto> s/there/poop/
[07:47:25] <arti> there you go
[07:47:21] <SedBot2> <Alberto> poop
[07:47:21] <Alberto> s/wtf/poop/
[07:47:19] <Alberto> wtf
[07:47:17] <Alberto> ohh
[07:47:12] <Alberto> s/wtf/poop/
[07:47:06] <SedBot2> <arti> blah blah
[07:47:05] <arti> s/tiggle/blah/
[07:46:58] <arti> blah tiggle
[07:46:58] <Alberto> you broke it lol
[07:46:55] <arti> example:
[07:46:50] <Alberto> s/wtf/poop/
[07:46:36] <arti> s/doing/faggot/
[07:46:33] <Alberto> :D
[07:46:33] * Alberto has no idea of what regex are
[07:46:26] <Alberto> what i'm doing wrong
[07:46:20] * SedBot2 tosses a / to Alburto
[07:46:20] <Alberto> s/arti/arit
[07:46:13] <Alberto> s/arti/arit/s
[07:46:04] <arti> :)
[07:45:53] * SedBot2 hurls a / at Albyrto!
[07:45:53] <Alberto> s/arti/arit
[07:41:38] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03868.219ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/l72rvhy 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | UK Government Selects Open Document Standards
[07:41:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK Government Selects Open Document Standards - http://sylnt.us - Type-for-England
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[06:07:56] <prospectacle> But that's optimistic
[06:07:53] <prospectacle> My guess is it won't be the U.N. It will be some organisation for the co-operation of democratic nations, which doens't exist yet.
[06:07:01] <prospectacle> seems inevitable really, new unions and federations are constnatly appearing. U.N. keeps getting stronger. Just a question of which union will be "The" union, and when
[06:06:06] <arti> that level of consolidation of power boggles my mind
[06:05:38] <prospectacle> IT's the same with towns as with neighbours, same with states as with towns, same with nations as with states
[06:05:26] <prospectacle> Hence the need for cops
[06:05:22] <prospectacle> arti, it's like a village. Most people want to get along, but if there's a few people who have a long-term feud, or are simply violent people, and no one steps it to stop them fighting, they won't stop.
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[06:04:25] <prospectacle> lol
[06:04:22] <arti> heh
[06:04:14] <ar> ^ server fortune for today
[06:04:07] <ar> How many Bavarian Illuminati does it take to screw in a lightbulb? - Three: one to screw it in, and one to confuse the issue.
[06:04:05] <arti> 56 minutes left
[06:04:05] * SedBot2 tosses a / to praspyctacle
[06:04:04] <prospectacle> s/arit/arti
[06:03:53] <prospectacle> is it wednesday there, or tuesday still?
[06:03:42] <prospectacle> hi arit, hope you are well this fine day
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[06:01:58] <arti> good evening btw
[06:00:54] <prospectacle> iow it's necessary but not sufficient
[06:00:47] <prospectacle> arti, not necessarily, but no-world-govt = no-peace
[06:00:18] <arti> world government = peace?
[05:55:53] <prospectacle> ar, that would work too, in the sense that humans would be extinct instead of at war
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[05:53:39] <prospectacle> Maybe we always will
[05:53:26] <prospectacle> You can have sovereign nation states with no world government, or you can have peace. So far we've chosen the former.
[05:53:25] <ar> (somehow i get a feeling that would mean a lot of people getting killed in the middle east and africa)
[05:52:44] <ar> problem solved
[05:52:40] <ar> kill all the ones who keep on fighting
[05:51:58] <prospectacle> I mean sometimes people will, but it's absurd to expect it
[05:50:42] <prospectacle> It's absurd to think people are just going to stop fighting if no one stops them
[05:48:44] <ar> https://www.youtube.com
[05:48:03] <prospectacle> Europe's solution to peace is to have a higher-level government and within the EU it has worked. Same with U,S. same with AUS.
[05:47:00] <prospectacle> As if you can peace without a world government
[05:46:54] <prospectacle> The whole situation is absurd
[05:46:22] <keplr> I look at a map of Israel over the decades, and then listen to their statements. It's absurd they think they're the victims.
[05:45:32] <keplr> The news out of Gaza is heartbreaking
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[05:39:39] <JamesNZ> possibly*
[05:39:34] <JamesNZ> What could possible go wrong?
[05:36:04] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03241.089ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/l3ywe8r 14 )[0]: 03Everyone In Middle East Given Own Country In 317,000,000-State Solution | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
[05:36:02] <prospectacle> In related news: http://www.theonion.com
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[04:54:31] <juggs> night all
[04:53:56] * juggs must drop
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[04:47:34] <keplr> And Hollywood, which also isn't very related to SV.
[04:47:10] <keplr> It's never going to pass, and it's an obvious scam for some rich Silicon Valley VC to hack off his section of the stat from the agricultural areas.
[04:46:26] <keplr> That six Californias thing pisses me off
[04:46:17] <Alberto> arti, i'm playing LOL
[04:43:06] <keplr> And more importantly stopped adding more data.
[04:42:43] <keplr> I deleted as much as is possible.
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[04:41:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Venture Capitalist Pushes Six-State Calfornia to Ballot - http://sylnt.us
[04:40:17] <juggs> keplr, did you manage to delete your facebook presence? They seem to hold onto information like an octopus with cyanoacrylate exuding pores.
[04:36:32] <prospectacle> netflix seems too good not to use. It's like the google of the internet
[04:27:12] <arti> f5f5f5
[04:27:11] * keplr deleted his Facebook three years ago.
[04:26:52] <keplr> Seems like that sometimes.
[04:26:16] <arti> facebook the other 60%?
[04:26:05] <keplr> Netflix use is now 40% of US bandwidth.
[04:14:25] * juggs just observes
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[04:07:06] <arti> how about you?
[04:06:56] <arti> a somewhat productive day, traffic was terrible though
[04:06:22] <arti> woke up late this morning
[04:06:22] <Alberto> lol
[04:06:21] <Alberto> and with the years i will become an "Elderto"
[04:06:07] <Alberto> lol
[04:06:00] <arti> if you were from Dilbert, you'd be Elberto.
[04:05:52] <Alberto> :D
[04:05:51] <Alberto> how are you?
[04:05:48] TheMightyArtiBrazzersBorg is now known as Alberto
[04:05:46] <TheMightyArtiBrazzersBorg> sup arti
[04:05:44] <arti> greetings lberto
[04:05:42] Alberto is now known as TheMightyArtiBrazzersBorg
[04:05:27] <Alberto> Mr rti!
[04:04:08] <juggs> much the same as it was yesterday, much like most suburbia - change comes slowly and is always resisted.
[04:02:10] <arti> how's it going in juggville?
[04:00:41] <juggs> I see, good for you :)
[03:59:58] <arti> just drifting around on straight aways
[03:59:32] <arti> arit is my arab half
[03:59:29] <juggs> lol
[03:59:27] <juggs> sup arit?
[03:59:06] <arti> :D
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[03:44:29] <juggs> yah right
[03:44:17] <Bytram|away> this time for sure!
[03:44:13] <Bytram|away> and that's it for me, too.
[03:44:07] <Bytram|away> TheMightyBuzzard: g'night! sleep well and keep cool, if you can!
[03:43:16] <juggs> nite tmb
[03:43:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, tv and bed for me. nite.
[03:42:48] <juggs> ~shrugs~ then I don't know.
[03:42:32] <Bytram|away> just need to know the URL to get to it. :/
[03:42:19] <Bytram|away> yuppers, I remember trying it a couple times... no special invite or anything needed.
[03:41:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, looks open to me. nobody ever gave me access if we needed it.
[03:40:54] <juggs> I believe so. But the developer of ciri is not on staff so may not have the required access to said shortening service. I don't know if it it needs some auth or w/e.
[03:39:24] <Bytram|away> TheMightyBuzzard: yes, we've got one out there somewhere... I don't recall where/how to use it
[03:39:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> sylnt.us = ours, no?
[03:38:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't we have our own?
[03:37:39] * juggs is not liking tinyurl link shorteners
[03:36:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, definitely us then.
[03:36:03] <Bytram|away> found it!
[03:35:58] <Bytram|away> that was posted on April 13.
[03:35:44] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03621.1ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/ptj69zx 14 )[0]: 03SoylentNews | Amazon Will Pay Employees Up To $5,000 For Quitting
[03:35:43] <Bytram|away> http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:16] <Bytram|away> I *know* I've seen it before, and am pretty sure it was here, but am having trouble searching for it... not done yet
[03:34:42] <Bytram|away> nodnod
[03:34:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram|away, it's a dupe of something just not sure if it's one of us.
[03:34:17] <juggs> ooh that's fine - here's a black curtain and a bell you may find useful
[03:33:26] <Bytram|away> nope, just channeling :)
[03:33:11] <juggs> Bytram|away, have you been possessed by ciri or something?
[03:32:34] <Bytram|away> "Amazon is Paying its Employees to Quit"
[03:32:11] <Bytram|away> saw a story in the queue to go out that looks like a dupe...
[03:31:49] <Bytram|away> :/
[03:31:43] <Bytram|away> ahhh! feel MUCH better!
[03:31:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ... same story twice?
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[03:31:05] <juggs> oh yeh, we all do. vive la diffrence
[03:30:46] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v Bytram|away] by juggler
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[03:30:28] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03909.881ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/k5hppmo 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | Flexible and Printable Battery that Will Revolutionize Wearables
[03:30:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Flexible and Printable Battery that Will Revolutionize Wearables - http://sylnt.us - it-might,-or-might-not
[03:29:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> quirks, people got em
[03:28:40] <juggs> why away if you intend to quit? :/ hmm
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[03:27:57] <juggs> night
[03:27:55] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[03:27:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite
[03:27:49] <Bytram> g'night everyone!
[03:27:43] <Bytram> wll, that's al for me.
[03:27:25] <exec> wind speed = 4 mph (6.4 km/h) wind direction = 285°
[03:27:24] <exec> barometric pressure = 1016.1 mb ~ change of -0.2 mb over past 0.3 hrs relative humdity = 73%
[03:27:24] <exec> temperature = 78°F (25.6°C) dewpoint = 69°F (20.6°C)
[03:27:24] <exec> Weather for Boston, MA US at 2014-07-23 02:53:00 (UTC) ~ 0.6 hrs ago:
[03:27:21] <Bytram> ~weather Boston
[03:27:16] <Bytram> looks a bit more comfortable down under
[03:27:02] <exec> wind speed = 6 mph (9.6 km/h) wind direction = 40°
[03:27:01] <exec> barometric pressure = 1022.7 mb ~ change of -2 mb over past 3 hrs relative humdity = 82%
[03:27:01] <exec> temperature = 51.1°F (10.6°C) dewpoint = 46°F (7.8°C)
[03:27:01] <exec> Weather for Morwell (latrobe Valley Airport), VIC, Australia at 2014-07-23 02:00:00 (UTC) ~ 1.5 hrs ago:
[03:26:58] <Bytram> ~weather crutchy
[03:26:48] <Bytram> lol!
[03:26:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, you need swim trunks on just to walk around outside
[03:26:10] * Bytram hopes the buzzard has A/C
[03:25:58] <Bytram> ugh. hot AND sticky
[03:25:49] <exec> wind speed = 0 mph (0 km/h) wind direction = 0°
[03:25:49] <exec> barometric pressure = 1018.3 mb ~ change of -0.3 mb over past 0.3 hrs relative humdity = 94%
[03:25:49] <exec> temperature = 78.8°F (26°C) dewpoint = 77°F (25°C)
[03:25:48] <exec> Weather for Ada, Ada Municipal Airport, OK, United States at 2014-07-23 02:55:00 (UTC) ~ 0.5 hrs ago:
[03:25:46] <Bytram> ~weather TheMightyBuzzard
[03:25:42] <Bytram> which reminds me!
[03:25:35] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:25:28] <Bytram> I *strongly* suggest that if you are anything of a wordsmith, to *AVOID* going to etymonline.com unless you have an hour or three to spare!
[03:25:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, ginadryl time or it won't kick in until i'm already asleep
[03:24:20] <Bytram> 1772, mentioned (with bored) in a magazine article as a new vogue word, perhaps from some dialect (in 1823 flabbergast was noted as a Sussex word), likely an arbitrary formation from flabby or flapper and aghast.
[03:24:20] <Bytram> flabbergasted (adj.) Look up flabbergasted at Dictionary.com
[03:24:08] <ciri> 14Title(03iso-8859-1 14/ 03212.445ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/p5694xp 14 )[0]: 03Online Etymology Dictionary
[03:24:08] <Bytram> from http://etymonline.com
[03:23:29] <Bytram> brb
[03:23:28] * Bytram wonders what the etymology on flabbergasted would be?
[03:21:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> longwinded for flabbergasted but it was a new one on me
[03:21:09] <Bytram> hmm, depends on how the spirit moves you, eh?
[03:21:07] <Subsentient> I didn't know whether to summon the gerbil swarm, eat my earlobes, or replace my arm with a teapot.
[03:20:52] * Bytram notes we were finally able to solve the problem, thankfully.
[03:20:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> fun bit i heard sunday, "I didn't know whether to eat, shit, or go to bed"
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[03:19:36] <Bytram> lol!
[03:19:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> bit of oklahoma hick-speak always adds flavor to the chaos too.
[03:19:18] <JamesNZ> XD
[03:19:14] <Bytram> we *were* all speaking in English, but after about 10 minutes of *that*, my head was about to collapse!
[03:18:40] <Bytram> about all we were missing was a southern drawl and maybe a down-east twang.
[03:18:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha
[03:18:16] <Bytram> I was working on a project that had me at a customer site in Europe. Major technical problem; go livee was only a couple days away. We had 3 yanks, a cockney, an ausie, a couple brits, and a scott all discussing it at the same time.
[03:17:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why i do my best to steal anything interesting from all the other english-speakers
[03:16:30] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: oh you got that right!
[03:16:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, truth
[03:15:59] <juggs> :P
[03:15:53] <SpallsHurgenson> and don't get me started on those people in England ;-)
[03:15:43] <JamesNZ> Aussie english is the worst of course :D
[03:15:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck knows aussie, kiwi, yank, and canuck english only vaguely resemble each other.
[03:15:27] <JamesNZ> U sayeing we dont tork propere england?
[03:14:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know they call it english down there but it's getting close to time all of us not actually in england rename the language and go our own ways.
[03:14:14] * JamesNZ peeps out from under his rock
[03:13:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> like JamesNZ here.
[03:13:28] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nod nod
[03:13:23] <Bytram> I'm reminded of the 'Swword of Shanara" series where a 'shade' was a kind of 'ghost' -- someone who was a shade of their former self appearing in corporeal form
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[03:12:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> we're getting an interesting portion of our members from non-english-speaking nations.
[03:12:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[03:11:55] <Bytram> ergo sombragris ==> shades of grey
[03:11:40] <Bytram> wikipedia notes that 'gris' means grey in French and Spanish.
[03:11:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> LaTeX typographer? EVIL!
[03:10:51] <Bytram> which leads me to think it has a meaning along the lines of "shade" as in hue or tinge
[03:09:20] <Bytram> ddg helpfully suggests: did you mean sombra gris?
[03:08:27] <Bytram> ==> This is the homepage of Eduardo Snchez -- Reformed theologian, philosopher, Spanish translator and LaTeX typographer.
[03:08:12] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03471.734ms.14)[0]: 03Bienvenidos - Welcome
[03:08:11] <Bytram> hmmm, http://sombragris.org
[03:07:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds kinda like a mexican hat for grits
[03:06:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> not i
[03:06:11] <Bytram> does that mean anything to someone here?
[03:05:43] <Bytram> seems it was snagged by: sombragris
[03:05:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[03:04:48] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03430.541ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/lv4cq84 14 )[0]: 03SoylentNews Friend/Foe System
[03:04:47] <Bytram> http://soylentnews.org"
[03:03:54] <Bytram> brb
[03:03:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> wonder who got 4567
[03:03:50] <Bytram> hmmm, I wonder who got '4567' ??
[03:03:39] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4569, owned by zenaan
[03:03:39] <Bytram> !uid
[03:03:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite
[03:03:30] <Bytram> hmmm, a couple things first, though
[03:03:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh at least a few days. i'm not sure i'll even start it until after 14.08
[03:03:21] <Bytram> time for some shuteye.
[03:03:11] <Bytram> well, I just popped in to see if someone could help with a bad moderation.
[03:02:41] * Bytram notes that it shouldn't be long now, then. =)
[02:59:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably won't make it in before the 14.08 release but it's on my list of easy to fix bugs that i plan on doing when meta-mod drives me insane.
[02:58:01] <Alberto> i said that before i think lolz
[02:57:52] * Alberto smiles
[02:57:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> Alberto, yep. needs a proper error page.
[02:57:25] <Alberto> TheMightyBuzzard, but still a bug right?
[02:57:00] <Bytram> bunch of wise guys here tonight, I see.
[02:56:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> Alberto, that bug earlier. apparently that happens no matter what you put in the url as long as the subid is invalid
[02:56:43] <Alberto> LOL
[02:56:39] Albytram is now known as prospectacle
[02:56:36] <Albytram> j/k
[02:56:33] prospectacle is now known as Albytram
[02:56:32] * Bytram appreciates the kind wishes but would prefer to just be friends
[02:55:57] * Alberto loves Bytram and wants him happy
[02:55:51] <Bender> karma - alberto: -23
[02:55:51] <Bytram> Alberto++
[02:55:42] <Bytram> Alberto: thank you!!!
[02:55:34] * Alberto likes burritos
[02:55:30] TheMightyBytramBrazzersBorg is now known as Alberto
[02:55:27] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at TheMightyBytramBrazzersBorg
[02:55:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> $burrito TheMightyBytramBrazzersBorg
[02:55:18] <Bytram> TheMightyBytramBrazzersBorg: have you nothing better to do with your time than to make things dificult for others?
[02:55:01] * TheMightyBytramBrazzersBorg is on vacations all year
[02:54:28] <Bytram> am on vacation this week and am trying to take a break; still poking in here every once in a while to pitch in, but really need some down time.
[02:54:25] <TheMightyBytramBrazzersBorg> o.O
[02:54:23] <TheMightyBytramBrazzersBorg> wasn't me
[02:54:18] Alberto is now known as TheMightyBytramBrazzersBorg
[02:53:29] <Bytram> oh, sometimes it's hard to tell 'em apart! :-P
[02:53:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> same here on the coffee. think ima have me a nice ginadryl to make damned sure i sleep through the night tonight even.
[02:52:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> wasn't a bot, was Alberto
[02:52:34] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: btw, it looks like the bot whose name was like your nick has gone.
[02:51:59] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03748.219ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/k5hppmo 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | Flexible and Printable Battery That Will Revolutionize Wearables
[02:51:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Flexible and Printable Battery That Will Revolutionize Wearables - http://sylnt.us - it-might,-or-might-not
[02:51:58] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nod nod
[02:51:51] * Bytram notes it's too late to actually have a cup of joe if I ever want to sleep tonight, but it's the principle of the thing =)
[02:51:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i like burning karma. incense makes me want to teach a hippie the secret neck shake.
[02:51:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 430
[02:51:13] <Bytram> coffee++
[02:51:05] <SedBot2> <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: or like insense?
[02:51:05] <Bytram> s/line/like/
[02:50:59] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: or line insense?
[02:50:47] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: is that like incense?
[02:50:45] <prospectacle> ha I've thwarted your plans
[02:50:33] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 21
[02:50:33] <prospectacle> TheMightyBuzzard++
[02:50:12] * TheMightyBuzzard burns some karma
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[02:46:04] * SpallsHurgenson is slowly downloading... stuff
[02:42:12] * juggs blames the cat
[02:41:58] <SpallsHurgenson> ow, my spleen!
[02:41:37] * juggs wanders around prodding things
[02:40:56] <prospectacle> see you later mrcoolbp
[02:31:40] <mrcoolbp> I'm going to go relax, catch you guys later.
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[02:29:28] <rand> For now it's bed time *yawn* G'night all.
[02:28:49] <rand> Tomorrow I'm going to try Pidgin all day and see what happens.
[02:24:59] <rand> I read that Konversation had some problems with DHCP, but supposedly that got fixed.
[02:24:31] <SpallsHurgenson> that's because you NOTICED you managed to stay online that long
[02:23:53] <rand> I was actually on for over an hour today, then got disconnected after 4 minutes.
[02:21:52] <juggs> rand - still having connection issues?
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[02:18:17] <mrcoolbp> thanks for the link
[02:18:09] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: I'm interested to see how this swag thing pans out
[02:17:52] * mrcoolbp thinks NCommander took the day off
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[01:54:16] <prospectacle> You obviously want to start small, but if it works, maybe in a year there could be ten stores (assuming none of them charge up front) and people can pick what they like.
[01:53:51] <ciri> 14Title(03"UTF-8 14/ 03835.848ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/kuwve8 14 )[0]: 0315 Places to Make Money Creating Your Own Products
[01:53:50] <prospectacle> http://mashable.com
[01:53:47] <prospectacle> By the way, if they start generating passive revenue (ie they're all set up and making money with no more time investment), there appear to be other similar services you could try
[01:43:21] <prospectacle> Then go nuts. Worst case is people buy less from one than the other
[01:42:56] <mrcoolbp> the latter
[01:42:46] <prospectacle> Do you pay per account, I mean would it cost you money to have both a cafepress and a zazzle? Or do they just take it out of each product?
[01:42:40] * mrcoolbp isn't sure about that anymore
[01:42:33] <mrcoolbp> I considered doing 2 different shops
[01:42:24] <mrcoolbp> but it's the clothing that I know will be better from zazzle
[01:42:13] <mrcoolbp> Cafepress base price is abour $12, and they're not too bad
[01:42:08] <prospectacle> I see
[01:41:53] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: the base price I see is $15 (yes, still kinda high)
[01:41:28] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: hmm, that's discouraging, that's the base price, our price would be on top of that
[01:41:07] <prospectacle> Yeah I expect you're right and they auto-price based on region
[01:41:06] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 03769.913ms. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/ml6tybg 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | Half of All New Energy Capacity in the US This Year is Renewable
[01:41:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Half of All New Energy Capacity in the US This Year is Renewable - http://sylnt.us - green-surge
[01:40:35] <prospectacle> It's not a crazy amount, I just hope you're getting most of it (or close to)
[01:40:17] <prospectacle> $21 - $32 AUD
[01:40:08] <mrcoolbp> I'm pretty sure they automagically create different portals for their various global locations
[01:39:30] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: what price are you seeing?
[01:38:59] <prospectacle> but anyway count me in
[01:38:17] <prospectacle> they're quite pricey at least on the australian site. I hope a large proportion of that money goes to SN
[01:38:12] <mrcoolbp> = )
[01:38:03] <prospectacle> mrcoolbp, I've got some mug money burning a whole in my card
[01:36:28] <mrcoolbp> (if we do that)
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[01:36:21] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: We are thinking about a soft opening, would you like to be part of the test group?
[01:35:05] <prospectacle> 8 different kinds of mugs. not bad
[01:28:19] <SpallsHurgenson> right after I clean this laptop for the fourth time
[01:28:04] <mrcoolbp> yessir, but their interface is a bit odd
[01:27:43] <prospectacle> mrcoolbp, looks like they've got a nice range of products
[01:26:31] <mrcoolbp> juggs: sure sir
[01:26:28] <SpallsHurgenson> from now on, I'm using a fan, a sunlamp, and a nature screensaver to enjoy the outside :)
[01:26:24] <juggs> mrcoolbp, got a min for a PM?
[01:26:08] <juggs> at these prices it is :D
[01:25:49] <prospectacle> that's important
[01:25:33] <mrcoolbp> quality
[01:25:29] <prospectacle> mostly on price, or speed of delivery, or what?
[01:25:26] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: so I spent the day wrastling with zazzles website
[01:25:08] <prospectacle> interesting
[01:25:01] <mrcoolbp> we looked at more reviews and cafepress loses to zazzle according to teh internetz
[01:24:40] <juggs> ehhh, yeah, we have a bit of an infestation of canada geese here - those things really know how to drop the droppings. Damn things don't bother buggering off for summer any more either, so they are a permanent pest.
[01:24:37] <prospectacle> mrcoolbp, sounds promising
[01:24:36] <mrcoolbp> we are probably going to use zazzle
[01:24:27] <mrcoolbp> working with xlefay on a swag plan
[01:24:18] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: I've spent hours setting up a store today, working with the logo files
[01:24:03] * SpallsHurgenson just got finished cleaning the laptop and mouse for the third time
[01:23:11] <prospectacle> that's what you get for enjoying nature
[01:23:08] <prospectacle> lol @ spalls
[01:23:06] <juggs> I'm lucky in that I live right next to a river, great views :) Wasn't so great in January when it was threatening to flood me out though. :/
[01:22:52] * prospectacle cases the shield of feigned ignorance, with +6 deflection
[01:22:26] * SpallsHurgenson doesn't go outside anymore
[01:22:18] <SpallsHurgenson> then a goose flew overhead and shit on me
[01:22:15] <mrcoolbp> hey buddy
[01:22:13] <SpallsHurgenson> I sat down by the river for a while, pulled out the laptop, did some work in the shade, it was great
[01:22:10] * mrcoolbp casts "Fire and Brimstone"
[01:22:10] <prospectacle> hi mrcoolbp
[01:21:54] <prospectacle> quick hide
[01:21:48] <mrcoolbp> Who dares wake me!!!!!!
[01:21:47] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs: I did that yesterday. It was a perfect afternoon; not too humid, not too hot, a nice breeze, and the sun wasn't overly bright
[01:21:46] <prospectacle> oh no
[01:21:42] <prospectacle> juggs, walk along the river sounds nice. I wish I had a river to constitional next to
[01:21:40] * mrcoolbp has ben SUMMONED!
[01:21:20] <prospectacle> well he's probably got enough to do. I won't try to summon him.
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[01:20:51] <juggs> mrcoolbp is the man for that question pros
[01:20:49] <prospectacle> The one I'm drinking from right now has nothing printed on it at all, and I find it ruins the flavour.
[01:20:33] <juggs> prospectacle, quite so. I did take a late afternoon constitutional along the river.
[01:20:24] <prospectacle> Speaking of staying indoors, has anyone heard any rumours of when we can buy our coffee cups?
[01:19:25] <prospectacle> Juggs, you may get a bit of vitamin D at least, for your trouble.
[01:18:44] <prospectacle> SpallsHurgenson, I'll just enjoy it from afar, then. Thanks for the warning.
[01:18:25] * SpallsHurgenson speaks from experience
[01:18:14] <juggs> Twas a little warm for my own preference around noon and into the first few hours post meridian. However, at this northerly latitude it is not the done thing to grouse about elevated temperatures or absence of precipitation, we experience precious few such days each year.
[01:17:47] <SpallsHurgenson> the sun might look nice, but be careful of the big blue room where it hangs out. Bad things can happen to you out there.
[01:14:45] <prospectacle> What's happening at your co-ordinates?
[01:14:35] <prospectacle> it's fine indeed, thank you sir, sunny for once.
[01:12:19] <juggs> how does this fine day find you sir prospectacle?
[01:11:44] <prospectacle> salutations, juggs
[01:11:35] <juggs> greetings prospectacle o/
[01:09:49] <prospectacle> greetings!
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[01:05:47] <mrcoolbp> later guys
[01:04:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> headed out myself to do some meatspace socializing before i forget how.
[01:04:42] * TheMightyBuzzard waves
[01:03:35] <paulej72> time to go home
[00:59:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, exactly what i was thinking. enables quick shut-off if it ends up thrashing on live. we can remove the ifs and var later if it works okay.
[00:59:38] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, indeed so on the screwdrivers - quickly followed by.... but never quite the right one for the job at hand e.g. picking up a philips when a pozidrive is called for
[00:58:59] <paulej72> that is the code that needs to change to make individual max stories work. If you want a var, just wrap my code with some if statements
[00:58:48] * SpallsHurgenson tries to use the Force to pull the scanner-desk closer to where he is sitting
[00:58:10] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: look at my github max stories branch: https://github.com
[00:54:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, no rush on that. it's way down my mental todo list. just wanted to know if that sounded a viable resolution to the issue so we could get it closed off there.
[00:53:22] <paulej72> ok
[00:53:09] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: I'm just gonna forward you these topic icons, you can probably set them up in git quicker than I
[00:52:53] * mrcoolbp shout some mandarin swears
[00:52:37] <mrcoolbp> there ya go
[00:52:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, firefly meaning of shiny.
[00:52:21] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: let me check in my reop. I had most of this working at one point.
[00:52:08] <mrcoolbp> er, not shiny
[00:52:02] <mrcoolbp> oooh, shiny
[00:51:38] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: new slash png
[00:51:36] <SpallsHurgenson> there is a point in every man's life when he steps back and assesses his life, wondering - as many have wondered before - how the hell he ended up with so many screwdrivers
[00:51:36] rand|away is now known as rand
[00:51:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, any objection to adding a var in the vars table and the code to enable/disable that setting as a solution to the issue?
[00:50:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, roger. I think we could probably handle the caching what with the differences in server memory since that was written.
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[00:32:22] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: no I ended not fixing it. was worred about cache overload. Just set the default for everyone differntly I think
[00:30:13] <ciri> 14Title(03utf-8 14/ 031.001sec. 14/ 12http://tinyurl.com/l2nuuez 14 )[1]: 03SoylentNews | Forbes Considers if Cloud Computing Means Better Applications
[00:30:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Forbes Considers if Cloud Computing Means Better Applications - http://sylnt.us - for-some-people-maybe
[00:17:33] * TheMightyBuzzard heads to the kitchen to tackle mt tableware
[00:13:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, paulej72, didn't you fix the user setting of max stories on the index a while back?
[00:11:27] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: we also have all those topic icons from rand we can try at some point
[00:10:48] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: need to fix that as well :)
[00:10:23] <mrcoolbp> god, that slash icon looks horrible on night-mode
[00:10:21] <mrcoolbp> yes, depressing factor is lower.
[00:10:10] <paulej72> not quite as depressing as the old one
[00:09:39] <mrcoolbp> yup, see it now
[00:06:23] <mrcoolbp> k
[00:05:58] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: force an reload on your browser or empty your cache. I updated the night mode to be identical except the news is white instead of black
[00:04:53] <mrcoolbp> they should at least be consistent in the layout of the elements
[00:04:34] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: the night mode one has more of the older elements, I prefer the "new" one you have on the regular theme
[00:03:15] <SpallsHurgenson> not dell! <shrieks in horror>
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[00:02:46] * mrcoolbp looks at the nightmode version
[00:02:17] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: yes the white text is nicer
[00:01:48] <swiss> just realized i could desolder my laptop's connector and just use a dell power adapter
[00:01:38] <paulej72> do you like the new version better
[00:01:32] <mrcoolbp> ...
[00:01:20] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: