#Soylent | Logs for 2014-07-15

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[00:00:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nanoparticles May Harm the Brain - http://sylnt.us - negative-consequences-of-good-intentions
[00:02:29] <arti> nanoparticles of lead
[00:02:43] <arti> also makes wine sweeter
[00:09:38] <NCommander> paulej72, it needs a fair bit of cleanup, I noticed he posted a new version
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[00:10:49] <prospectacle> I think the current karma system is a subtle disincentive to comment
[00:11:10] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: care to elaborate?
[00:11:11] <prospectacle> If you've got 50 karma, you risk losing some with a new comment, but you can't gain any
[00:11:19] <mrcoolbp> hmmm
[00:11:34] <mrcoolbp> but whats the use of Karma if you don't say anything?
[00:11:41] <prospectacle> I think a higher maximum, and a slow decay of existing karma, would make people comment a lot more, on an almost subconscious level.
[00:11:52] <mrcoolbp> also: we've considered letting the Karma age---yeah that
[00:12:23] <prospectacle> I realise having high karma gives you a boost, so that is an incentive to post. You're right, but it's offest by the unnecessary disincentives just mentioned
[00:12:37] <arti> i think we should randomly stone posters
[00:12:43] <arti> just to keep things exciting
[00:12:51] <prospectacle> just my $2/100
[00:12:54] <prospectacle> arti++
[00:12:54] <Bender> karma - arti: 55
[00:12:59] <arti> "rock on, man!"
[00:13:00] <ciri> Fucking iron man animation.
[00:13:09] * arti feeds ciri a cirisnack
[00:14:14] <prospectacle> if karma decayed proportionally (to how much you had), then you would have a bit of breathing room when it was low, but if it was high you couldn't just sit back and say "That will last forever" as it would decay faster
[00:15:05] <prospectacle> Once I posted (after having 50 karma) and it got three up votes then one down. The result: karma 49
[00:15:25] <prospectacle> I know it's a silly meaningless number but now I'm slightly afraid of disturbing my pristine score.
[00:15:31] <arti> just post more outlandish comments
[00:15:37] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: I think there were always plans to have it age, it just got lost in the slew of other things we've been doing
[00:16:11] <prospectacle> mrcoolbp, fair enough. Plenty of things are more important than this
[00:16:31] <prospectacle> Long term, though, the karma system will make a massive difference to how much people comment/post
[00:16:48] <prospectacle> Anyway that's enough of that. How are you going lately?
[00:17:35] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: well now that we are a corporation, obviously we are brooding in our cavernous mansions stroking fluffy cats and sipping brandy, so we are doing most excellent I'd say!
[00:18:04] * mrcoolbp notes there may be a disconnect between the above and reality
[00:18:05] <prospectacle> sweet. Have you indirectly poisoned any rivers in far away countries yet? I believe it's a rite of passage
[00:18:24] <prospectacle> When can I send SN my subscription money?
[00:18:30] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: ^^
[00:18:50] <SpallsHurgenson> <sigh> now it's raining again
[00:19:09] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle, I'm working on swag right now, but the subscription thing will need some serious code-work to get functional I beleive
[00:21:31] <prospectacle> fair enough. these things take time.
[00:21:42] <prospectacle> What kinds of swag have you got in the works?
[00:22:02] <SpallsHurgenson> hmm, Prodigy... I remember that. http://www.theatlantic.com
[00:22:03] <monopoly> ^ 03Where Online Services Go When They Die - Benj Edwards - The Atlantic
[00:22:36] <prospectacle> I would probably wear an SN shirt if it was cool (but not a "Soylent News" shirt my girlfriend thinks the name sounds gross)
[00:23:11] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: Did yo mean http://www.youtube.com ?
[00:23:12] <monopoly> ^ 03THE PRODIGY - voodoo people (original) - YouTube
[00:23:16] <prospectacle> Anyway, pleased to see how much progress is being made. I lurked in on the first board meeting just so I could tell my grandchildren one day
[00:23:18] <SpallsHurgenson> I still say the swag needs the people-in-the-blender artwork for it to be successful :) :)
[00:23:26] <chromas> ^
[00:23:53] <juggs> blenders++
[00:23:53] <Bender> karma - blenders: 1
[00:24:04] <SpallsHurgenson> nope, I meant http://www.youtube.com :)
[00:24:04] <monopoly> ^ 03Prodigy commercial (version 2) - 1990 - YouTube
[00:24:12] * arti used prodigy back in the day
[00:24:18] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: http://imgur.com
[00:24:19] <monopoly> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[00:24:20] <arti> ZCWF86A i think was my email
[00:24:59] <prospectacle> mrcoolb, looking good. I'
[00:25:05] <arti> cool, nicely done
[00:25:08] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: Thanks! mind you I just threw that together, I have some more work to do
[00:25:11] <prospectacle> s/I'/I'll probably buy a mug or two/
[00:25:12] <exec> <prospectacle> mrcoolb, looking good. I'll probably buy a mug or two
[00:25:52] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: I ordered a few today to test out the system
[00:26:34] * NCommander kills himself
[00:26:39] <mrcoolbp> oh NOE!
[00:26:40] <NCommander> Subscription code is pugy
[00:26:44] <mrcoolbp> oh phew
[00:26:57] <prospectacle> mrcoolbp, I highly recommend/humbly request some kind of "SN" logo for some of the swag (instead of the full name), Like a badge or something.
[00:27:13] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: hmm, noted
[00:27:24] <mrcoolbp> !todo "SN" logo
[00:27:24] <Bender> todo item 13 added
[00:28:10] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle we were thinking something like: S/N (signal/noise and the "slash" of course for slashcode)
[00:28:19] <prospectacle> I remember some other people saying that some outsiders (curse their ignorance) thought the name sounded dirty. For mixed company some cool SN crest might do the trick
[00:28:27] <prospectacle> mrcoolbp, yeah I like it
[00:28:41] * mrcoolbp fires up photoshop
[00:29:57] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp, hi!
[00:30:39] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole: you got mail!
[00:32:12] <SpallsHurgenson> Blender... with requested bloodsplat :) http://imgur.com
[00:32:13] <monopoly> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[00:32:27] <arti> curse their ignorance heh
[00:32:49] * arti knows slash as something else
[00:33:02] <mrcoolbp> SpallsHurgenson: your mspaint skills outweigh mine by 3% !!
[00:33:08] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp, I think that all sounds great. really, i wouldn't worry about getting sued. if we do, we can easily change the slogan, etc., since we're not warehousing massive amounts of merchandise
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[00:33:35] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole: yeah but wouldn't that cost us a bunch of money in legal fees etc.?
[00:33:36] <SpallsHurgenson> I'll have you know I use Paint.Net :)
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[00:33:52] <mrcoolbp> SpallsHurgenson: my most sincere apologies
[00:33:56] <SpallsHurgenson> for added extra evilness :)
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[00:34:37] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp, only if you wanted to try to challenge the suit, etc. really, it sounds very unlikely, and even if it did happen, we would just call them and work something out.
[00:34:58] <mrcoolbp> oh, okay
[00:35:41] <mrcoolbp> I think NCommander gave me creative liscense to just go to town on stuff as he would not be availble a whole lot recently but I'm not sure I understood exactly what he meant
[00:36:21] <BlackHole> cool. i guess that means you get to create all of our branded swag :)
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[00:36:34] <mrcoolbp> I guess I should get to work then eh?
[00:36:47] * mrcoolbp is working on a "S/N" logo
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[00:37:41] <SpallsHurgenson> Marvel at my truly epic MSPaint skills (from 1992 :) http://imgur.com
[00:37:41] <monopoly> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[00:37:48] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp, also, do you think that the markup is high enough? perhaps a few premium products would be good, as a lot of us would like most of our money to go to SN when we buy swag...
[00:38:07] <SpallsHurgenson> as you can see, the past 20 years have sharpened my skills not a bit :)
[00:38:15] <prospectacle> mrcoolbp, obviously something better than this, but maybe something like this: http://imgur.com
[00:38:15] <monopoly> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[00:38:17] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole: I'm working on the graphic setup part, I'm open to suggestions on the markup part
[00:38:53] <mrcoolbp> Prospectacle: I'm working on the candybar graphic, but that looks nice
[00:38:57] <SpallsHurgenson> prospectacle: maybe big red S, little black N in the lower right corner (slightly overlapping)
[00:39:16] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp, i would say that at least 50% of the purchase price should go to SN for most things, imo.
[00:39:42] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole: that would make the Hoodie sweatshirt $80.....
[00:40:06] <juggs> o.O
[00:41:02] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp, i know, but we do want to support SN, not CafePress ;)
[00:41:56] <prospectacle> SpallsHurgenson, do you mean something like this: http://imgur.com
[00:41:56] <monopoly> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[00:43:10] <prospectacle> Blackhole, you make a good point. It's a fine balance. More % of sale to SN might mean higher prices and therefore less overall sales and less overall $ to SN
[00:43:52] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: http://imgur.com
[00:43:53] <monopoly> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[00:44:36] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: I agree about the balance, I'm not sure where to set the price
[00:44:37] <ciri> If you run the exe you can get all of thoes. Balance_tags is uesed everywhere.
[00:45:11] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole: I don't mind making the products a little pricey, but I doubt many of our users would pay $25 for a coffee mug
[00:45:16] <mrcoolbp> I could be wrong though
[00:45:49] <prospectacle> mrcoolbp, candybar looks good. Could try making the letters bigger and squished together. Like you might see on a crest or coat of arms type logo.
[00:46:15] <SpallsHurgenson> MrCoolbo: looks like a soylentnews condom wrapper :)
[00:46:23] * mrcoolbp sighs
[00:46:31] <mrcoolbp> yeah, it does actually
[00:46:37] <prospectacle> lol
[00:46:39] <SpallsHurgenson> wait... are we getting SoylentNews condoms? :)
[00:46:43] <prospectacle> now that you mention it
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[00:46:52] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp, yeah, that's why it might be good to have a "basic" version and a "premium" version, so that those who want to support SN more have the option...
[00:47:03] <mrcoolbp> Spalls: let me see if they have those available at CafePress
[00:47:12] <SpallsHurgenson> somebody check to see if cafepress does prophylactics :)
[00:47:19] <SpallsHurgenson> jinx
[00:47:19] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole: that is certainly possible
[00:48:11] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole: maybe offer some kind of incentive over the non-premium...better graphics? More Ponies/rainbows?
[00:48:18] <BlackHole> exactly!
[00:48:45] <mrcoolbp> !todo expand store, figure out premium items
[00:48:45] <Bender> todo item 14 added
[00:48:53] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't think most people would subscribe for benefits, but rather because they support what SN does
[00:49:31] <SpallsHurgenson> and offering a multi-tiered system where certain people get a better experience is likely to drive away more people than it attracts, I think
[00:50:06] <mrcoolbp> Spalls: it's a subtle marketing encouragement. People are obviously buying the stuff because they want to support us. But if someone is on the fence, offering *something* over the "basic" item might lean them towards the premium.
[00:50:36] <SpallsHurgenson> offer a 10% discount on s/n branded goodies and a star that shows up on their account page :)
[00:50:38] <mrcoolbp> we are talking swag only at this point SpallsHurgenson
[00:51:33] <mrcoolbp> SpallsHurgenson: not to derail you from suggestions on the "Subscription" discussion, just sayin' the above was regarding the swag specifically
[00:51:43] <SpallsHurgenson> derail away :)
[00:53:18] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole: hmm, I could setup a basic store with a few items tonight
[00:54:02] <mrcoolbp> SpallsHurgenson: couldn't find the prophylactics, so no SN condoms....for now.
[00:54:05] <mrcoolbp> = (
[00:54:44] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole: what's on the Agenda for the next meeting?
[00:54:46] <BlackHole> sweet. i also noticed from your email that they hold all funds for 60 days+ in case of returns, so best to get things going, i think.
[00:54:55] <mrcoolbp> mmm
[00:54:56] <BlackHole> oh, lots of things :)
[00:54:59] <SpallsHurgenson> http://wowcondoms.com :)
[00:55:00] <monopoly> ^ 03Branded Condoms
[00:55:11] <mrcoolbp> Spalls: facepalm
[00:55:22] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, just trying to help :)
[00:55:23] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole: what about that payment plan thing?
[00:55:32] <BlackHole> at cafepress?
[00:55:35] <mrcoolbp> yeah
[00:56:14] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole: it appears they take a small cut: 10% up to $10/month
[00:56:24] <BlackHole> so my reading of that is that they take 10% of what you bring in up to $10 a month, unless you pre-pay, in which case it can go down to as low as $5 a month.
[00:56:45] <BlackHole> so, at best, we could save $5 a month
[00:56:46] <mrcoolbp> yeah exactly
[00:57:04] <mrcoolbp> best to ignore that for now then
[00:57:24] <BlackHole> i suppose so, since we're broke.
[00:57:37] <mrcoolbp> Spalls: I want Randall Munroe to flesh out this sketch: http://imgur.com
[00:57:43] <monopoly> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[00:57:51] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole: let me see if I can get some work done on it now
[00:57:54] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp, did you have any thoughts on that stock concept?
[00:57:59] <mrcoolbp> oh
[00:58:05] * mrcoolbp needs to read that
[00:58:32] <BlackHole> no huge rush, but it just gets complicated if we bring in money first, since the corp. has value then...
[00:59:35] <mrcoolbp> oh great, APK responded to my email again...
[00:59:40] <SpallsHurgenson> related to nothing, but sort of neat anyway: rewinding a large motor http://videosift.com
[00:59:41] <monopoly> ^ 03Rewinding a large motor
[01:09:29] <prospectacle> What's the rules about selling stock? I mean could a preimium subscription confer a share?
[01:10:58] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: we have no plans of "selling stock" that would require an IPO as I understand
[01:11:18] <mrcoolbp> this is only to repay people that have put money into the domains and hosting for the site
[01:11:22] <prospectacle> Makes sense. Just curious
[01:11:45] <mrcoolbp> prospectacle: oh I was too, and I think I asked the same question
[01:12:09] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: I think there are SN logos on the stie already
[01:12:27] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: any idea where?
[01:13:22] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole: I know we have a lot of things on the agenda: one of the things we mentioned was nominating other members.
[01:13:29] <pbnjoe> mrcoolbp, WHAT'S with the "ellipsis"? Is there something that BOTHERS you about APK's email? PS => & /. etc
[01:13:34] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole: should we maybe be contacting those people?
[01:13:38] <pbnjoe> ... pbnjoe
[01:13:57] <pbnjoe> :p
[01:14:02] <mrcoolbp> pbnjoe: = P
[01:14:25] <mrcoolbp> pbnjoe: I can't believe I've wasted time replying to this guy and now am considering doing it again.
[01:14:39] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp, certainly. at the very least, we should be sure to more effectively invite everyone to the next meeting :)
[01:14:49] <paulej72> https://github.com
[01:14:50] <monopoly> ^ 03slashcode/themes/default/htdocs/images/assets-soylent/apple-touch-icon-120x120.png at master · SoylentNews/slashcode...
[01:14:50] <pbnjoe> heh
[01:14:56] <mrcoolbp> yeah, seriously, I feel bad about the last one
[01:15:23] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: oh the icons, that's all I could think of, and they are a little low on the resolution side for printing
[01:15:55] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: but that one looks better then my condom wrapper maybe
[01:15:58] <BlackHole> fyi, i think that sn.org (as in the actualy 2-letter domain name) is being auctioned-off for $10k-ish.
[01:16:08] <BlackHole> *actual
[01:16:26] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole: should we throw that on the company credit card?
[01:16:40] * BlackHole was unaware that we had a company credit card
[01:17:04] <mrcoolbp> pbnjoe: if I had any less ethics I'd so want to share this email convo with you
[01:17:15] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: blow them up then touch them up in ps
[01:17:26] <pbnjoe> well don't tease me mrcoolbp
[01:18:58] <pbnjoe> but I can guess the generalities
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[01:24:20] <mrcoolbp_> pbnjoe: = )
[01:24:24] <prospectacle> SN seems to have almost every kind of server under the sun. Any plans to have git hosting? Could be a premium feature
[01:24:25] <ciri> Cuts up a server side script, https, even better than anyone else has done a lot of sn audience would.
[01:25:00] <mrcoolbp_> ug, sorry ciri but I'm gonna slash-ignore you
[01:25:18] <mrcoolbp_> prospectacle: not sure about that
[01:26:11] <juggs> aww don't be mean to little ciri :D
[01:26:44] <mrcoolbp_> BlackHole: who is "The Founder" ?
[01:28:26] <mrcoolbp_> BlackHole: this is saying that the stockholders can't sell them right?
[01:29:09] <mrcoolbp_> paulej72: I
[01:29:15] <mrcoolbp_> paulej72: I'll do that
[01:29:17] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp_ the "Founder" is whoever is assigning rights.
[01:29:27] <mrcoolbp_> k
[01:29:36] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp_ the "Restriction on Transfers" is in our bylaws.
[01:29:46] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp_ you have them memorized, right ;)
[01:29:59] <mrcoolbp_> BlackHole: of course, but I'm looking at #4
[01:30:09] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp_ so, the board would have to approve any sale.
[01:30:17] <mrcoolbp_> right
[01:31:14] <paulej72> mrcoolbp_: there is a 152 px version as well
[01:31:30] <mrcoolbp_> nice
[01:31:48] * mrcoolbp_ is doing way to many things at once as usual
[01:33:25] <mrcoolbp_> BlackHole: janrinok and I started work on the SN Policy Manual today
[01:33:33] <BlackHole> nice!
[01:34:11] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp_, i hope that that info from Lam was helpful
[01:34:11] <mrcoolbp_> BlackHole: honestly I've been working on this stuff all day, I think I'm going to take a break
[01:34:19] <mrcoolbp_> BlackHole: absolutely
[01:34:35] <mrcoolbp_> BlackHole: as for the next meeting, it needs to be scheduled eventually
[01:34:47] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp_, i think we made a lot of progress this week.
[01:34:51] <mrcoolbp_> BlackHole: I'm available around 10pm tomorrow
[01:34:58] <mrcoolbp_> BlackHole: yeah
[01:35:15] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp_, are there any upcoming days when you would be available around 7pm? :)
[01:35:28] <mrcoolbp_> BlackHole: probably have to be next week
[01:35:52] <mrcoolbp_> my schedule won't permit that particular time this week, and NCommander needed a break today
[01:36:22] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp_, maybe we should do next week, then.
[01:36:57] <mrcoolbp_> BlackHole: as soon as I have my schedule I'll try to be in touch, otherwise I can request something off in the future
[01:37:48] <mrcoolbp_> BlackHole: if you could work up a summary of what we will be discussing, we could send that to the mailing list
[01:38:04] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp_, ok. i think that once we get the loose ends tied up in the next meeting, there will be much less meeting-type stuff to do
[01:38:15] <mrcoolbp_> BlackHole: agreed
[01:38:22] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp_, i'll work on it.
[01:38:27] <mrcoolbp_> awesome, thanks
[01:38:56] <mrcoolbp_> I have a busy week ahead, I'll get to working on the store ASAP
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[01:39:35] <SoyGuest31503> ug
[01:39:39] <BlackHole> SoyGuest31503, sounds good. i've gtg. take care!
[01:39:43] <SoyGuest31503> rofl
[01:39:45] <SoyGuest31503> you too
[01:39:47] <BlackHole> =)
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[01:40:39] <mrcoolbp> .op
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[01:40:43] <mrcoolbp> there, that's better
[01:40:48] <mrcoolbp> okay later guys
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[01:41:02] <mrcoolbp> thanks for the input everyone
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[01:42:30] <pbnjoe> cya
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[01:56:15] <SpallsHurgenson> and now it's not raining. I wish the weather would make up its mind
[02:03:54] <prospectacle> FWIW a couple more badge ideas. Feel free to do anything (or nothing) with them: http://imgur.com
[02:03:55] <monopoly> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[02:04:32] <prospectacle> Like for jacket crests, etc
[02:04:50] <prospectacle> Anyway gotta go. Have a good one, all
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[02:05:10] <SpallsHurgenson> I like the one on the left more, though they should be filled in
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[02:10:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Do I Use a Mobile Device Purely as Camera/Presentation Tool-No Internet? - http://sylnt.us - any-suggestions?
[02:20:21] <SpallsHurgenson> does that "ask soylent" story seem like an advert for Faststone products to anyone else?
[02:23:22] <juggs> It's a little odd that it's spattered all over the article. If I were asking that question it would be more along the lines of "this is what I'm trying to achieve, any suggestions fellow Solenters?" blah.
[02:23:50] <keplr> I thought it was an ad for Windows XP.
[02:25:13] <SpallsHurgenson> it's also a pretty stupid question. he basically wants a tablet but isn't interested in using it for the internet... so, um... buy a tablet and turn of the internet?
[02:25:38] <SpallsHurgenson> on the plus side (for SN, at least) it was stupid enough that I just had to go to the website to see if it was that dumb :)
[02:26:30] <juggs> well for "presentation tool" I'd be more inclined to with a portable projector - suppose it depends on the size of the audience though
[02:27:16] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, yeh I just popped onto the site - looks like some 90s shareware stuff
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[02:31:07] <SpallsHurgenson> from his list, it looks like "presentation" was more along the lines of "let me see the pictures so I can scribble on 'em" more than display 'em to anyone else
[02:32:01] <juggs> fair enough. set lose the gimp!
[02:32:06] <juggs> loose*
[02:35:27] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, I guess he could use some sort of embedded windows version and a stripped down jury-built contraption... but it's probably just cheaper and easier to get an android or ipad tablet and use the apps available to that platform.
[02:36:43] <juggs> seems sensible
[02:37:08] <SpallsHurgenson> anyway, not a very good article for Soylent. :)
[02:38:05] <SpallsHurgenson> on an unrelated note, apparently slashdot's attempt at redesign has become a meme of sorts (see http://thedailywtf.com)
[02:38:06] <monopoly> ^ 03Survey Results Site Redesign - The Daily WTF
[02:52:08] <juggs> it should go down in history as a lesson in how not to do something
[02:52:35] <SpallsHurgenson> I almost pity the poor designer behind the whole thing
[02:54:23] <juggs> it very much smacks of decision by committee, a committee of the unqualified - and yeh I can imagine the actual designers and implementers just rolling their eyes and tutting quietly while sprucing up their resumes
[02:55:08] <SpallsHurgenson> certainly dice's reaction to the upset was pure corprate
[02:55:12] <SpallsHurgenson> corporate
[02:55:45] <juggs> c'est la vie. good thing we moved on to greater things :D
[02:56:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, you mean booze, boobs, and bacon?
[02:56:52] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, I still visit slashdot and will until beta becomes mandatory. sadly, it has better articles and comments than the alternatives
[02:57:16] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, we have boobs?
[02:57:48] * TheMightyBuzzard looks at juggs's nick
[02:58:16] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, yep it's still in my daily rotation but it's slipped way down the list and just gets a cursory once over
[02:58:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus poutine and ethanol-fueled are both boobs
[02:59:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell, we even have APK now. tits as far as the eye can see.
[02:59:26] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, that's your imagination.... I have no idea why I thought 'juggs' would be a good nick lol
[02:59:28] <ciri> What did you guys frothing at the slightest thought of when you mentioned that.
[02:59:52] <juggs> wth ciri
[03:00:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, ciri gotta go on ignore now
[03:00:23] <SpallsHurgenson> ciri is a random-insult bot or something?
[03:00:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> does other stuff in other channels but in this one just spouts random crap
[03:01:07] <chromas> it does dice rolls
[03:01:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> think she has actual functions in ##
[03:01:23] <chromas> on slashdot, dice rolls—oh
[03:01:57] <SpallsHurgenson> well, I can hardly speak against anyone who spouts random nonsense. I mean, that would be hypocritical of me :)
[03:02:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> bah-dum-ting
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[03:03:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, prolly a good idea. think i'll take the morning off n go fishing some more since sunday was just the suck.
[03:03:40] <chromas> !roll 64d12
[03:03:41] <ciri> chromas rolls 450
[03:03:57] <chromas> !roll 65536d65536
[03:03:57] <ciri> chromas rolls too many dice
[03:04:04] * chromas wants overflow
[03:38:51] <Popeidol> !roll 12d2.23
[03:38:51] <ciri> Popeidol rolls 17
[03:39:30] <chromas> !roll -1d-2
[03:39:31] <ciri> chromas rolls incorrectly. Try <n>d<x>[<mod>]: where <n> is number of dice, <x> is number of sides, <mod> is an expression of addition or subtraction
[03:39:49] <chromas> ciri: who are you to decide how I roll?
[03:39:54] * chromas installs sunglasses
[03:40:10] <Popeidol> !roll 5dπ
[03:40:10] <ciri> Popeidol rolls incorrectly. Try <n>d<x>[<mod>]: where <n> is number of dice, <x> is number of sides, <mod> is an expression of addition or subtraction
[03:40:24] <juggs> !roll 256d256
[03:40:24] <ciri> juggs rolls 32227
[03:40:57] <chromas> !roll 32767d32767
[03:40:57] <ciri> chromas rolls too many dice
[03:46:17] <Popeidol> !roll 256d32767
[03:46:17] <ciri> Popeidol rolls 4237566
[03:46:24] <Popeidol> !roll 256d3276746789
[03:46:24] <ciri> Popeidol rolls 397897851
[03:46:39] <Popeidol> !roll 256d32767467899374759692902383726
[03:46:39] <ciri> Popeidol rolls 1190594330
[03:47:18] <Popeidol> that feels like an unlucky roll
[03:48:31] <juggs> !roll 256d32767467899374759692902383726
[03:48:32] <ciri> juggs rolls 1948393459
[04:05:58] <Popeidol> !roll 2014d99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
[04:05:59] <ciri> Popeidol rolls too many dice
[04:06:11] <Popeidol> !roll 256d99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
[04:06:12] <ciri> Popeidol rolls 733888628
[04:07:11] <juggs> hmm
[04:09:42] <swiss> juggs: did you se sr20det got to 20?
[04:10:38] <chromas> !roll 100d9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
[04:10:38] <ciri> chromas rolls -1169393037
[04:10:42] <chromas> oops
[04:10:47] <chromas> It goes up to 1000 dice
[04:11:10] <juggs> swiss, lol no I didnt. Who's been ++'ing it?
[04:11:46] <chromas> !whoup sr20det
[04:11:46] <Bender> uppers of sr20det are: juggs: 12, swiss: 8
[04:11:51] <swiss> i did
[04:12:07] <juggs> only the 2 of us, shame :(
[04:12:09] <chromas> !whoup beta
[04:12:09] <Bender> uppers of beta are: TheMightyBuzzard: 1
[04:12:26] <JamesNZ> !whoup coffee
[04:12:26] <Bender> uppers of coffee are: crutchy: 196, TheMightyBuzzard: 73, Blackmoore: 44, Bytram: 17, MrBluze: 15, AndyTheAbsurd: 8, mrcoolbp: 6, chromas: 5, mattie_p: 4, arti: 4, crutchy_: 3, TheMightyLaptop: 2, exec: 2, TheMightyBuzzard|Book: 2, juggs: 2, Blackmoore|afk: 2, TK: 2, Bytram|away: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Out: 1, chimp: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Gone: 1, xlefay: 1, crutchy|zzz: - 1 more
[04:17:55] <juggs> swiss: are you working on any automotive tomfoolery at the moment?
[04:19:58] <swiss> juggs: i wired power locks in yesterday
[04:20:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Machine that Could Finally Fix Airport Security - http://sylnt.us - also-detects-honey
[04:20:12] <swiss> i am putting an rpi in place of the radio and climate control at some point
[04:20:14] <arti> vehicle?
[04:20:17] <swiss> 240sx
[04:20:18] <swiss> s13
[04:21:21] <juggs> swiss, fiddly work pulling all the trim out without breaking all those tabs and tags and clips :(
[04:21:48] <arti> very cool
[04:22:01] <swiss> juggs: a lot easier when i don't care about the clips and trim
[04:22:13] <juggs> ha true
[04:22:40] <juggs> I've had the complete dash out a couple of times... blech, wait a ballache
[04:25:27] <swiss> my dash is cracked all over
[04:25:46] <swiss> i haven't taken it completely off on this car yet, but i've removed basically everything from it
[04:29:07] <juggs> yeh mine's developed a couple of cracks where it's degraded in the sun. It will probably go to the tip at some point and I'll put something utilitarian in to hold gauges and the like. We have some regulations on protrusions and the like though for safety, so I need to get up to speed with those first.
[04:32:47] <juggs> I'll probably go with something predictable like chequer plate..... have to get some tig practice in first mind, been too many years since I did any tig welding
[04:44:06] <swiss> i think we have those regulations
[04:44:08] <swiss> i just ignore them
[04:44:20] <swiss> you could flock your dash
[04:50:38] <juggs> I don't like the look - to me flock seems a little starsky and hutch pimp mobile style. That's just a personal taste thing though, I'm more a stripped out utilitarian look fan. I like to kid myself that the reduced weight helps, but really I just like knobbing about ripping stuff out :D
[04:53:48] <swiss> lol
[04:53:56] <swiss> i like that it makes it non-reflective
[04:54:09] <swiss> if i put sheet metal in, i'd prob flock that
[04:54:24] <swiss> i am not doing any of those big changes till it stops being my DD
[05:00:23] <juggs> hmm, good point, horizontal reflective surfaces under the windscreen wouldn't be a good idea. Maybe a matte black upper shroud (carbon fibre perhaps) with near vertical metal panels inset beneath for mounting stuff in. Hmm, I'm rubbish at conceptualising this kind of thing.
[05:15:29] <swiss> you can also just do brushed metal
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[05:20:57] <juggs> it would still be a bit reflectatious in sunlight I think. problem is matte black gets so damn hot in sunlight and of course we have regs on windscreen tinting so that's not possible either. ~shrugs~ I don;t have the cash to work on it at the moment anyway so it's just ideas.
[05:22:31] <swiss> that's why you flock it!
[05:26:27] <juggs> damn it, we went full circle lol. I could go all redneck on it, pull out the dash and hack the top section off for refitting :D That would look awful though, and I have no idea what that foamy top section material is, I certainly wouldn;t want to be breathnig it :D
[05:30:04] <juggs> hmm... typo to word ratio dictates I should assume a horizontal alignment.
[05:31:13] <swiss> lol
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[06:58:39] <crutchy> ping xlefay
[06:58:44] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:58:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 368
[06:58:49] <arti> g'day crisp
[06:58:53] <arti> crutchy...
[06:59:34] <ar> coffee--
[06:59:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 367
[07:00:02] <crutchy> hi arti, ar
[07:00:26] <crutchy> chromas++ for botsitting :-P
[07:00:26] <Bender> karma - chromas: 19
[07:00:52] <monopoly> crutchy++
[07:00:52] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 76
[07:10:09] <chromas> pascal++
[07:10:09] <Bender> karma - pascal: 9
[07:10:17] <arti> freetos++
[07:10:17] <Bender> karma - freetos: 1
[07:10:21] <chromas> ooh
[07:10:24] <chromas> freetos++
[07:10:24] <Bender> karma - freetos: 2
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[07:43:09] <chromas> #Blender sure could use an auto-kick robot
[08:02:47] monopoly is now known as testenopoly
[08:02:49] <crutchy> ~stats-lines chromas
[08:02:57] testenopoly is now known as monopoly
[08:03:07] <exec> privmsg count for chromas in #soylent: 5974
[08:03:15] * chromas has a big mouth
[08:03:29] <crutchy> ~stats-lines xlefay
[08:03:42] <exec> privmsg count for xlefay in #soylent: 6862
[08:04:12] <chromas> doesn't seem to track for pms
[08:04:21] <chromas> s/p/b/
[08:04:22] <exec> <chromas> doesn't seem to track for bms
[08:04:23] <ciri> Logging keeps track of stuff, 2 june 2014, 01:12:23 | - engel track 02...
[08:11:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - MPs Decide Drones Invade Australian Privacy - http://sylnt.us - Too-Rights
[08:11:06] <monopoly> ^ 04SN article 03 MPs Decide Drones Invade Australian Privacy 04(1 comments): ( http://soylentnews.org )
[08:11:51] <chromas> :(
[08:25:56] <monopoly> crutchy++
[08:25:56] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 77
[08:37:29] <JamesNZ> ~stats-lines exec
[08:37:42] <exec> privmsg count for exec in #soylent: 0
[08:38:22] <JamesNZ> chromas: Is that right? :P ^
[08:38:26] <crutchy> hmm wonder why 2 spaces there?
[08:38:42] <crutchy> ~stats-lines exec
[08:38:44] <JamesNZ> Mmm, true.
[08:38:55] <exec> privmsg count for exec in #soylent: 2381
[08:39:11] <JamesNZ> O_o
[08:39:27] <crutchy> think you might've had a space at the end
[08:39:36] * crutchy should trim that
[08:39:40] <JamesNZ> Ahh, yes I did.
[08:40:08] <JamesNZ> Oh, is it your bot? I thought it was chromas's -_-
[08:43:27] <crutchy> chromas has executive powahs :-)
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[09:26:52] <crutchy> is it just me or is journal alert messages in SN a sandwich short of a picnic?
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[09:33:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> is it? email alerts seem okay.
[09:33:39] <chromas> :(
[09:33:57] <chromas> Doesn't disowning a process let me exit the ssh session?
[09:34:01] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org
[09:34:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah, that one. yep.
[09:34:26] <crutchy> i can't link to the exact message cos there doesn't appear to be any links :-/
[09:34:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> known bug since 14.06
[09:35:03] <crutchy> ah. that's ok
[09:35:21] <crutchy> not really a bug. more of a featurette :-P
[09:36:44] <crutchy> or a featurelet
[09:37:07] <crutchy> cos it 'let's you figure it out yourself :-D
[09:37:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima stick with bug and fix it for 14.08
[09:38:52] <crutchy> what happened to 14.07.125-19820319
[09:39:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was busy fishing
[09:39:51] <crutchy> maybe slash uses ubuntu versioning
[09:39:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> which ima do today too
[09:40:11] <crutchy> in the lake nearby?
[09:40:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> to be expected, NC is an canonical guy last i checked. bout 25-30 miles
[09:41:19] <crutchy> hmm is it just a template thing?
[09:41:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely.
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[09:41:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> feel free to find n fix it. you know as much about templates as i do pretty much.
[09:42:16] <crutchy> i haven't seen any message templates in my travels. i'll hop on github and have a browse though i guess
[09:43:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually no, there's prolly something in the perl too that's buggy but if you wanna find which template is getting used and drop it in a pm it'll save me some greping
[09:43:36] <crutchy> ooh
[09:43:42] <crutchy> that was unusually easy
[09:43:43] <crutchy> https://github.com
[09:43:44] <monopoly> ^ 03slashcode/plugins/Journal/templates/messagenew_subj;journal;default at af1e5f2f8df732c83716d18869386482e02fa70e · So...
[09:44:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like journal.description isn't doing its job
[09:44:18] <crutchy> oh nah that's just the subject
[09:44:30] <crutchy> though prolly neads a link there too i guess
[09:44:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh. incomplete template then yep yep
[09:45:20] <crutchy> https://github.com
[09:45:20] <monopoly> ^ 03slashcode/plugins/Journal/templates/messagenew;journal;default at af1e5f2f8df732c83716d18869386482e02fa70e · Soylent...
[09:45:31] <crutchy> that's the message content
[09:45:48] <crutchy> though it doesn't appear to be used
[09:46:04] <crutchy> the message content i got was empty
[09:46:15] <crutchy> so whatever is supposed to include that template is borked maybe
[09:46:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> data will be stuffed into $form loaded by getCurrentForm, likely
[09:47:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> may fix that today after fishing, may be tomorrow.
[09:48:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> first thing's first though, coffee++
[09:48:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[09:48:15] <Bender> karma - coffee: 368
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[09:48:49] <crutchy> coffee++
[09:48:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 369
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[09:49:02] <crutchy> cheap_party_mix++
[09:49:02] <Bender> karma - cheap_party_mix: 1
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[09:50:17] <crutchy> rand is getting that stupid 'this nick is currently unavailable' (or whatever) message methinks
[09:50:30] <crutchy> hi rand_
[09:50:39] <rand_> crutchy:you thinks right
[09:50:46] <rand_> hi
[09:51:16] <crutchy> try: //msg nickserv register {your nickname} {your password}
[09:51:26] <crutchy> doesn't always work
[09:51:27] <chromas> one slash!
[09:51:35] <crutchy> oh yeah :-P
[09:51:46] <crutchy> lol definitely one slash!
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[09:53:28] <crutchy> i made that mistake once, but i did it with style! ...made a bot that enabled a certain someone to ls the bot directory and cat my irc passwords file directly to the channel :-D
[09:53:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha
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[09:55:04] <crutchy> that someone is an awesome bot penetration tester though :-)
[09:55:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> it not letting you identify right at login?
[09:55:20] <crutchy> wb rand
[09:55:42] <crutchy> i think it only does it once or twice
[09:55:53] <crutchy> did it to me the first time i logged onto new server
[09:56:05] <crutchy> happened to a bunch of people
[09:56:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> funky
[09:56:06] <ciri> [Soylentnews] - invitation to volunteer for soylentnews (current slogan is "...is people!".
[09:56:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess it just likes me
[09:57:21] <crutchy> ciri likes you too. better be careful
[09:58:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> she smack talking me? put her on ignore last night.
[09:59:54] <crutchy> aw
[10:01:29] <crutchy> ciri is so smart, ciri is so smart, s.m.r.t, i mean s.m.a.r.t
[10:04:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> i drink a whiskey drink, i drink a chocolate drink, and when i have to pee, i use the kitchen sink, i sing the song that reminds me i'm a urinating guy...
[10:06:15] <crutchy> now you just need to put it to the music for gangnam style and you're set
[10:07:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> goes to tubthumping
[10:07:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> forget what episode it's from
[10:10:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Copyright Lawyers Prime the Pump for the Return of SOPA - http://sylnt.us - Not-this-crap-again
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[10:12:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[10:12:18] <monopoly> ^ 03&"Do-Re-Mi" (beer version) - Lauren Molina - YouTube
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[10:14:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> aright, i'm out bothering the fishes
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[10:29:47] <ar> http://arachnist.is-a.cat
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[10:57:20] <prospectacle> ahoy matey
[10:58:10] <stdhell> Yar!
[10:59:58] <prospectacle> What's happening?
[11:00:40] <stdhell> Nothing much... But I just found out I got a +5 Interesting on an anonymous first post on "that other site" the other day.
[11:01:06] <prospectacle> nice. you overcame a lot of disadvantages to prosper
[11:02:12] <prospectacle> I used to love getting karma
[11:02:26] <stdhell> Yes. I even had to talk about turtles...
[11:03:10] <prospectacle> well we all make sacrifices
[11:03:15] <stdhell> I'm talking about this story: http://science.slashdot.org
[11:03:17] <monopoly> ^ ( http://slashdot.org )
[11:03:31] <stdhell> In case anyone cares... And you don't.
[11:05:01] <prospectacle> well I'm glad you got +5, it's always nice to know multiple people took time to spend their precious points making your symbolically rich
[11:05:29] <prospectacle> The karma system is pretty cool. I think with a few tweaks it could be incredibly cool
[11:05:49] <stdhell> Well, not _me_. I posted as AC...
[11:05:54] <prospectacle> higher max for posts, higher max for individuals, decays over time. That's about it, really.
[11:06:31] <prospectacle> there's the rub, it's harder to get +5 as AC and people don't do it cause they like you cause they don't know. So in that way it's a bigger accomplishment.
[11:06:54] <prospectacle> On the other hand it's like being given money that you must immediately leave on the ground and walk away. Flattering, but frustrating.
[11:10:00] <stdhell> I haven't checked Slashcode. Does it store the comment as "posted by anonymous" and that's it or does it store it as "posted by ..., but marked AC"? E.g. to disallow moderation of your own AC posts.
[11:11:26] <prospectacle> Don't know. That's a good question. I guess it would be an interesting loophole if you could mod your own AC posts. You could always log-out, then post AC, then log in and mod it up
[11:13:34] <stdhell> Maybe they could store the IP-address... But that wouldn't work either. Most of us have access to a lot more than one IP-address.
[11:14:07] <stdhell> But anyway, it could be interesting, if you could post as AC, but still get (some of) the karma.
[11:15:00] <stdhell> But then again, you're not really anonymous, if the comment can be traced back to you that easily.
[11:15:28] <stdhell> Oh, well. Who cares? It's not my first +5 as an AC.
[11:15:45] <chromas> I think it hashes the ip
[11:15:57] <Popeidol> you don't want to leak state secrets that way, but it stops casual readers identifying you
[11:16:01] <Popeidol> which I assume is all it's designed to do
[11:16:19] <prospectacle> I want to leak state secrets that way.
[11:16:34] <Popeidol> soylentleaks
[11:16:45] <prospectacle> State secret: Australia's PM is only good at sabotaging other people. He has no vision, charisma, or negotiating ability.
[11:16:59] <prospectacle> Don't tell anyone
[11:17:09] <stdhell> What's the secret?
[11:17:19] <Popeidol> that explains his election tactic of 'staying out of the way'
[11:17:26] <Popeidol> his popularity increases a lot when you don't see or hear him
[11:17:30] <chromas> The secret is that it's a secret
[11:17:45] <prospectacle> it's a secret from him. When he finds out he might cry
[11:23:10] <crutchy> evenin'
[11:23:23] <prospectacle> hey crutchy!
[11:54:32] <paulej72> crutchy: I already fixed the message system. it just has not gone live yet
[11:55:11] <crutchy> paulej72++ no worries mate
[11:55:11] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 39
[11:55:15] <paulej72> the info is there it is just not properly formatted HTML
[11:55:37] <paulej72> someone used a URL tag
[11:56:03] <chromas> Like bb code?
[11:56:04] <paulej72> instead of an a tag
[11:56:26] <crutchy> i saw that in the template
[12:02:14] <crutchy> https://github.com
[12:02:15] <monopoly> ^ 03slashcode/plugins/Journal/templates/messagenew;journal;default at af1e5f2f8df732c83716d18869386482e02fa70e · Soylent...
[12:03:42] <crutchy> tbh i didn't see that as a problem cos i assumed the template engine converted it similarly to form content (not that i would know), but was that one line enough to bork the whole template?
[12:04:26] <chromas> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[12:04:27] <monopoly> ^ 03Japanese artist cuffed for disseminating 3D ladyparts files • The Register
[12:09:36] <crutchy> lol gotta love the first comment: "I seriously want one of those canoes. That is all."
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[12:30:02] <prospectacle> later all
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[12:30:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CIA Responsible for 1950s Norwegian UFO Sightings - http://sylnt.us - truth-sometimes-less-strange-than-fiction
[12:31:38] <chromas> Well that makes sense; aliens and commies were interchangeable
[12:31:50] <chromas> They're out to get you!
[12:34:09] <crutchy> ~uid
[12:34:12] <crutchy> !uid
[12:34:12] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4552, owned by jenic
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[12:50:56] <paulej72> crutchy: that one line is all of the content. When not rendered the message looks blank. If you look at the raw html you will see the bad code
[12:54:40] <crutchy> i dunno what 'msg.mode == 1' means, but yeah i saw the <URL: tag in the page source
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[13:27:00] <crutchy> woah
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[13:28:48] <crutchy> did someone do a /rehash?
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[13:29:27] <crutchy> got some weird quit messages
[13:34:07] <stdhell> "Read error: error:2006D080:BIO routines:BIO_new_file:no such file"?
[13:35:35] <crutchy> yeah
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[13:40:33] <crutchy> ~sed on
[13:40:34] <exec> sed enabled for 8#Soylent
[13:40:35] <ciri> Get: ~bucket <<variable>>_#soylent_$blah_blah="chromas stuffity.
[13:40:50] <crutchy> lol
[13:41:00] <crutchy> i remember that
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[13:41:31] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[13:41:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 370
[13:41:40] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:41:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 371
[13:41:40] <Blackmoore> ah thats better. mornin.
[13:41:50] <crutchy> g'day
[13:42:37] <crutchy> er almost morninm in 20 mins :-P
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[13:43:20] <Blackmoore> eh i just stumbled into the office.
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[13:43:54] <crutchy> someone's tinkering :-P
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[13:45:37] <crutchy> you playing god paulej72?
[13:46:14] <paulej72> yes. I got and email from xlefay and needed to do some config changes that he recommened
[13:46:33] <crutchy> cool. is that with /rehash?
[13:46:41] <crutchy> (i'm an ircd noob)
[13:46:43] <paulej72> yes
[13:47:15] <paulej72> and /msg operserv rehash for atheme (currently operserv is named badass)
[13:47:18] <crutchy> so you got your privs all worked out
[13:47:39] <paulej72> yes I believe I have full irc god privs
[13:48:02] <crutchy> paulej72++
[13:48:02] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 40
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[13:49:34] <crutchy> xlefay doin ok?
[13:50:31] <paulej72> from what I can tell he is not terrible, but I am not sure if I would call everything OK.
[13:50:53] <crutchy> k
[13:51:05] <crutchy> thnks
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[14:10:01] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: did you get a different address for him?
[14:11:48] <paulej72> no, but it still seems to work. I resent the email that bounced after I discussed it here last night and he got it.
[14:12:46] <paulej72> looks like he moved his email server to a new host.
[14:13:11] <paulej72> differnt ip address today. I must have emailed him during the dns transition
[14:13:38] <mrcoolbp> cool
[14:15:33] <paulej72> looks like the old server is offically dead :(, but wer trnasition fairly painlessly
[14:17:02] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: i gave you founder access to #style for now. I will need to give you ircop status later if you want it.
[14:17:31] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: as long as you tell me how not to break IRC = )
[14:17:50] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: I just want to be able to setup new staff memebers with cloaks/privs
[14:18:06] <paulej72> still learning that stuff myself
[14:18:51] <mrcoolbp> well, thanks for the #style one, but I'm not sure what that gives me
[14:19:13] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: I'm still hoping some graphic/UI person steps forward and de-thrones me eventually
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[16:11:11] <swiss> http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com is there an article for this yet?
[16:11:11] <monopoly> ^ 03Google Online Security Blog: Announcing Project Zero
[16:11:15] <swiss> if not, there should be
[16:11:24] <swiss> and i'm going to work, so i don't have time
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[16:32:43] <Blackmoore> geh. link is banned here at work. anyone else?
[16:43:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> doesn't look like it
[16:45:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> also user Cherrysexx appears to be a spambot
[16:47:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> submitted, http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:44] <monopoly> ^ 04SN Submission by AndyTheAbsurd 03Google creates "Project Zero" team to help solve security issues:
[17:12:57] <paulej72> AndyTheAbsurd: i spam bannd two submit spammers today. I think that was the second one I just got.
[17:16:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> paulej72: yeah, it was really obvious, I just wanted to inform someone with access to a BanHammer(tm) that it was there so that appropriate action could be taken.
[17:18:28] <paulej72> AndyTheAbsurd: the eds have been deleteing them before I had a chance to delete them. And I did not want to manually go through each sid looking for the correct one. Today was the first time I was able to spam ban before someone delted the sub.
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[18:21:22] <Landon> AshleyWaffle: how is the japanese going?
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[20:08:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> that was a lot of fishing for one keeper
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[20:21:07] <Blackmoore> not biting today TheMightyBuzzard ?
[20:22:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> not worth a damn, no. did snag a 7-8lb flathead just before i left though.
[20:24:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> in dire need of a nap now though. yack with you lot in a couple hours.
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[21:48:46] <Cyprus> The fishing has been great on Nanog the past two days
[21:49:16] <paulej72> Is it sad when Regurgitator and NerdRPG are more active than anybody else today :(
[21:49:35] <Cyprus> Heh
[21:49:47] <Cyprus> I've barely been on here in weeks =/
[21:50:31] <paulej72> but Cyprus this is a new here so you couldn’t have been :P
[21:52:51] <Cyprus> here, there, its all DNS to me
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[22:02:37] <crutchy_fone> coffee++
[22:02:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 372
[22:04:44] <crutchy_fone> ~time chicago
[22:04:46] <exec> [Google] 5:04pm Tuesday (CDT) - Time in Chicago, IL, USA
[22:05:22] <crutchy_fone> wow. i wish it was 5pm here :-/
[22:05:33] <Cyprus> its 5 here, peace
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[22:06:27] <crutchy_fone> ~weather crutchy
[22:06:29] <exec> Weather for Morwell (latrobe Valley Airport), VIC, Australia at 2014-07-15 20:00:00 (UTC) ~ 2.1 hrs ago:
[22:06:30] <exec> temperature = 44.2°F (6.8°C) dewpoint = 44.2°F (6.8°C)
[22:06:30] <exec> barometric pressure = 1010.8 mb ~ change of -0.1 mb over past 3 hrs relative humdity = 100%
[22:06:30] <exec> wind speed = 1 mph (1.6 km/h) wind direction = 150°
[22:06:43] <crutchy_fone> ah crap
[22:07:33] <crutchy_fone> oh 2hrs ago! might not be ad cold now that sun's awake
[22:09:37] <crutchy_fone> ~weather-add hell washington dc, usa
[22:09:37] <exec> code "hell" set for location "washington dc, usa"
[22:13:11] <crutchy_fone> pretty quiet thismorn
[22:16:41] <Blackmoore> :P
[22:16:52] <Blackmoore> i'm just f'ing busy herer in the cubicle.
[22:17:26] <paulej72> ~weather princeton
[22:17:30] <exec> Weather for Princeton, NJ US at 2014-07-15 21:49:00 (UTC) ~ 0.5 hrs ago:
[22:17:30] <exec> temperature = 75°F (23.9°C) dewpoint = 73.2°F (22.9°C)
[22:17:31] <exec> barometric pressure = 1006.4 mb ~ change of -0.5 mb over past 0.5 hrs relative humdity = 93%
[22:17:31] <exec> wind speed = 0 mph (0 km/h) wind direction = 190°
[22:17:32] <ciri> [Google translate] our feet are stayin (en -> es): hola cmo ests?
[22:20:00] <paulej72> ~weather-add ncomander anchorage, ak, usa
[22:20:00] <exec> code "ncomander" set for location "anchorage, ak, usa"
[22:20:38] <paulej72> ~weather NComander
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[22:20:41] <exec> Weather for "NComander" not found. Check spelling or try another nearby location.
[22:21:34] <paulej72> ~weather ancorage, ak
[22:21:36] <exec> Weather for Anchorage, AK US at 2014-07-15 21:55:00 (UTC) ~ 0.4 hrs ago:
[22:21:37] <exec> temperature = 61°F (16.1°C) dewpoint = 50.8°F (10.4°C)
[22:21:37] <exec> barometric pressure = 1023.2 mb ~ change of 0 mb over past 0.3 hrs relative humdity = 68%
[22:21:38] <exec> wind speed = 0 mph (0 km/h) wind direction = 263°
[22:21:55] <paulej72> ~weather-add NCommander anchorage, ak
[22:21:56] <exec> code "NCommander" set for location "anchorage, ak"
[22:22:09] <paulej72> ~weather NCommander
[22:22:12] <exec> Weather for Anchorage, AK US at 2014-07-15 21:55:00 (UTC) ~ 0.5 hrs ago:
[22:22:12] <exec> temperature = 61°F (16.1°C) dewpoint = 50.8°F (10.4°C)
[22:22:13] <exec> barometric pressure = 1023.2 mb ~ change of 0 mb over past 0.3 hrs relative humdity = 68%
[22:22:13] <exec> wind speed = 0 mph (0 km/h) wind direction = 263°
[22:23:51] <paulej72> crutchy_fone: your weather app does not give current conditions ie light thunderstorms and rain for Princeton
[22:30:18] <crutchy_fone> ~weather
[22:30:19] <exec> IRC WEATHER INFORMATION
[22:30:19] <exec> usage: "~weather location" (visit http://wiki.soylentnews.org for more info)
[22:30:20] <exec> data courtesy of the APRS Citizen Weather Observer Program (CWOP) @ http://weather.gladstonefamily.net
[22:30:20] <exec> by crutchy: https://github.com
[22:30:47] <crutchy_fone> its just pilfered from aprs weather stations
[22:32:20] <crutchy_fone> the bot doesnt even perform the location search. the scripty is pretty basic
[22:32:40] <crutchy_fone> gtg to workipoos :-/
[22:32:45] <crutchy_fone> laterz
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