#Soylent | Logs for 2014-07-08

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[00:10:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bug Juggler: The 70-Foot-Tall Car-Juggling Robot - http://sylnt.us - insert-robotic-overlord-joke-here
[00:12:39] <Azrael> \\
[00:23:13] <NCommander> BlackHole, I think I need to make a comment on that
[00:23:26] <BlackHole> :-)
[00:23:37] <BlackHole> i'm working on a good one now :)
[00:24:20] <NCommander> BlackHole, well, I think I'm going to offer him either the opportunity to either do a traditional /.-like interview, or a AMA
[00:24:50] <BlackHole> yeah, the article didn't generate the avalanche of questions that i was hoping for :/
[00:25:01] <BlackHole> but, i'm not sure how to get the community any more engaged.
[00:26:11] <BlackHole> if he's a regular reader (which it seems that he is), perhaps we can send an email to his opponents to give them a chance to get in on the discussion...
[00:26:41] <BlackHole> ...and make it not just a one-shot thing. just my 0.02 USD.
[00:27:34] <NCommander> BlackHole, mostly because most people didn't see it like that
[00:29:00] <BlackHole> hmm. i did get the impression from the comments that a lot of people are thinking: "i don't live in washington, so what's the point?"
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[00:53:33] <mrcoolbp> ROFL:
[00:53:34] <mrcoolbp> <YoLtA> Hello. i'm eRic M France. I'm there to share information concerning theories about our origins. Monotheism & Evolution's theory are based on beliefs 'cause nothing in science can establish that these théories are correct
[00:53:34] <mrcoolbp> <YoLtA> However, the new one considering that we have been created by human beings of a most advanced civilisation mastering biotechnologies (intelligent Design) is enlightened with real facts. Wanna read about it ?
[00:54:03] <mrcoolbp> This ^ guy PMed me apparently
[01:03:05] <mrcoolbp> YoLtA: I deem thee "Creationism-Bot"
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[01:39:06] <idetuxs> Hi everybody
[01:40:25] <idetuxs> Quick silly question: how do I link a defined text to URLs when writing a comment?
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[01:40:53] <chromas> standard html tags work
[01:40:56] <BlackHole> <a href="url">defined text</a>
[01:40:58] <chromas> Alo hi
[01:41:01] <chromas> also hi
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[01:41:35] <idetuxs> oh, Ok!
[01:41:40] <idetuxs> Hi! and thanks
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[01:43:04] <mrcoolbp> enjoy= )
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[01:45:56] <idetuxs> Ok, it didn't work :/
[01:46:09] <idetuxs> I have the option "HTML formated"
[01:46:18] <mrcoolbp> idetuxs: paste the link you are trying in here
[01:46:22] <mrcoolbp> er
[01:46:32] <mrcoolbp> paste the <code> in here
[01:46:44] <mrcoolbp> s/code/markup/
[01:46:44] <SedBot> <mrcoolbp> paste the <markup> in here
[01:47:02] <idetuxs> Duh! Silly me
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[01:47:16] <idetuxs> I forgot to close the " in the last part of the link
[01:47:25] <idetuxs> befor the ">"
[01:47:35] <idetuxs> got it mrcoolbp, thank you
[01:47:36] <mrcoolbp> idetuxs: you're not the only one. I had someone actually email us in the admin contact about not being able to post a link
[01:47:49] <mrcoolbp> we went back and forth a few times
[01:47:52] <idetuxs> weird
[01:48:12] <mrcoolbp> turns out he made a typo, he was copy pasta-ing it over and over again getting no results
[01:48:26] <idetuxs> hahaha like me. Classic.
[01:48:33] <arti> nice
[01:48:35] <mrcoolbp> Yup, we chuckled
[01:49:10] <idetuxs> thanks for the help anyway
[01:49:16] <mrcoolbp> no problem = )
[02:01:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK.gov Wants to Legislate on Comms Data Before Next Election - http://sylnt.us - knowing-what-you're-thinking
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[02:20:05] <SpallsHurgenson> the paranoid part of my brain still freaks out a bit everytime nickserv "identifies" me :)
[02:22:10] <SpallsHurgenson> thank god it's not named something like NickServAgent or I'd need more tinfoil :)
[02:23:05] <idetuxs> hahaha, are you connected trough a proxy?
[02:23:37] <SpallsHurgenson> no, I ran out of tinfoil :)
[02:23:43] <idetuxs> oh :/
[02:23:44] <idetuxs> haha
[02:37:18] <SpallsHurgenson> 35 more days until I get AC.
[02:37:32] <SpallsHurgenson> 35 hot, sticky, miserable days
[02:45:37] * SirFinkus just had his AC kick on
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[02:53:58] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[02:54:51] * SpallsHurgenson yawns
[02:56:40] <pbnjoe> Is there now a cap on karma?
[02:58:03] <SpallsHurgenson> karma ++
[02:58:22] <pbnjoe> 'cause I've had some stories accepted and comments upmodded but it's yet to budge
[02:58:27] <pbnjoe> doesn't really matter, I'm just curious
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[03:01:58] <mrcoolbp> pbnjoe: on SoylentNews.org?
[03:02:01] <mrcoolbp> yes there is a cap
[03:02:03] <mrcoolbp> it's 50
[03:02:11] <mrcoolbp> on here, I think not
[03:02:19] <pbnjoe> ok, I was suspecting so since it was an even number
[03:02:21] <mrcoolbp> pbnjoe++
[03:02:21] <Bender> karma - pbnjoe: 5
[03:02:34] <mrcoolbp> that one can go into the thousands
[03:02:40] <mrcoolbp> I've....I've seen it happen!
[03:02:49] <pbnjoe> yeah, I know from bacon's, what, 100000 karma on ##
[03:02:51] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, I used a space :)
[03:02:58] <SpallsHurgenson> karma++
[03:02:58] <Bender> karma - karma: 12
[03:03:21] <pbnjoe> yep, 110555
[03:03:36] <pbnjoe> though, that mayyyy have been inflated by a certain ircop
[03:05:38] <pbnjoe> woop woop! DF 2014 is out now
[03:05:54] <pbnjoe> I know what I'm doing tonight
[03:06:25] <SpallsHurgenson> dark forces, the 2014 remake of the most-excellent star wars FPS from the mid-90s?
[03:06:35] <pbnjoe> dwarf fortress :)
[03:06:49] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, I thought it was something worth playing :) :) :)
[03:07:01] <pbnjoe> ouch
[03:07:37] <pbnjoe> right in the stomach, tearing the guts
[03:07:40] * pbnjoe retches
[03:07:41] <SpallsHurgenson> call me a graphics whore, but I DID my time with ascii "graphics" in the 70s and I have no desire to go back :)
[03:08:03] <pbnjoe> they're replaceable, etc
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[03:30:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Many Gigs of Data in a Human? - http://sylnt.us - what-raid-level-is-that
[03:33:10] <mrcoolbp> NCommander, BlackHole: he responded
[03:33:33] <BlackHole> sweetness!
[03:33:47] <BlackHole> or did he respond with "what in the _world_ are you talking about"?
[03:35:03] <mrcoolbp> yup
[03:35:16] <mrcoolbp> he was all "Yo, watchall talking bout'?"
[03:35:26] <mrcoolbp> nah, just kidding, it looks legit
[03:37:16] <mrcoolbp> I'm going to suggest that he reply to each thread, seems to make more sense
[03:37:24] <NCommander> pbnjoe, oh crap
[03:37:35] <NCommander> o_o;
[03:37:41] <mrcoolbp> ah
[03:37:51] <pbnjoe> to basically say what's happening in freenode's df channel:
[03:37:52] <pbnjoe> WOOO
[03:38:06] <pbnjoe> you can place trees in arena mode
[03:38:10] <pbnjoe> etc
[03:38:16] <pbnjoe> this isn't the channel for it
[03:38:22] <NCommander> pbnjoe, nah, its fine
[03:38:29] <NCommander> This. is. DWARF. FORTRESS.
[03:38:57] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, you kow, when you open the site up and read the article that a candidate for the house loves SN
[03:39:01] <NCommander> well ...
[03:39:22] <mrcoolbp> ....
[03:39:38] * mrcoolbp was going to bump that article so you can do that again = )
[03:43:30] <pbnjoe> dude do it
[03:43:45] <pbnjoe> Please come into #dwarffortress so you can see our blathering
[03:43:48] <pbnjoe> lots of info coming through
[03:44:03] <pbnjoe> oh, you have
[03:46:28] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole, NCommander when are we meeting?
[03:47:06] <mrcoolbp> BlackHole, NCommander: Tuesday and Thursday after 7pm EST work for me
[03:48:35] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp, NCommander, I can do any day this week or this coming weekend at 7pm EST.
[03:49:47] <mrcoolbp> I could do Wednesday too but have to run off at 9PM EST
[03:52:30] <NCommander> I can do tomorrow or Wednesday
[03:52:37] <NCommander> That's 3Pm my time
[03:53:57] <BlackHole> shall we say tomorrow at 7pm? we should really keep it to 2 hours or less to maintain our sanity, i would think.
[03:54:07] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: wouldn't it be 5pm?
[03:54:12] <mrcoolbp> er 4pm
[03:54:14] <mrcoolbp> typo
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[04:10:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - *Update: Candidate Responds* U.S. Congressional Candidate a Fan of SoylentNews - http://sylnt.us - doesn't-constitute-an-endorsement
[04:14:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh if he was really a fan he'd have a lower uid
[04:14:51] <chromas> Isn't he using 1?
[04:15:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair point, he has 4225 as his very own though
[04:15:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> !uid
[04:15:32] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4516, owned by WhyBoostIQ
[04:16:14] <chromas> Sounds like a beta user
[04:17:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> hmmmm...
[04:18:56] <mrcoolbp> lol
[04:19:03] <chromas> Neither have made any posts under their names
[04:19:23] <BlackHole> he has a Fan, though :)
[04:19:37] * mrcoolbp blushes
[04:24:29] <SpallsHurgenson> remember what they say about a politician whose lips are moving...
[04:26:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's blowing you a kiss?
[04:27:02] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: s/ a kiss//
[04:27:02] <SedBot> <chromas> <TheMightyBuzzard> he's blowing you?
[04:27:03] <mrcoolbp> Still, it's kinda cool that we are facilitating a discussion like this
[04:27:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> Nother SN in the mention http://www.therandymon.com
[04:27:15] <monopoly> ^ 03Making communities, breaking communities | Into the Wild Spaces
[04:27:19] <SpallsHurgenson> all the more so when he is mentioning your name :)
[04:27:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> man my english just isn't tonight
[04:27:58] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: that's cool, but it's a blog
[04:28:30] <BlackHole> yeah, it's not exactly filled with glowing praise, either...
[04:29:17] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[04:29:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> publicity is publicity at this point
[04:29:26] <BlackHole> from TFL: "[At SN], there's more to learn (although frankly, not much. Seems a lot of smart people stayed behind at Slashdot"
[04:30:09] <BlackHole> but, you're right. it's good publicity nonetheless :)
[04:30:22] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: it's not an extremely positive review, but it's fair
[04:31:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly, i'd rather have fair. doesn't raise expectations but does get us known.
[04:31:07] <chromas> there's a lot of hyphenated word breaks in there
[04:31:20] <chromas> Not used to seeing that anymore
[04:32:01] <chromas> Must be a CSS thing because they don't get copied
[04:32:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, interesting.
[04:32:30] <chromas> and they're in all the wrong places
[04:35:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm just glad to see our name popping up places that aren't ourselves or /. comments
[04:42:24] <SpallsHurgenson> today some guys blog, tomorrow the world!
[04:43:34] <Popeidol> that's a very steep climb
[04:43:39] <mrcoolbp> agreed
[04:43:40] <Popeidol> how about today some guys blog, tomorrow another blog?
[04:43:50] <mrcoolbp> I'd like to aim higher than that
[04:43:54] <SpallsHurgenson> okay, two blogs. But then the world!
[04:43:59] <mrcoolbp> sure.
[04:44:32] <SpallsHurgenson> dare I ask: does Soylent have a facebook page? :)
[04:45:03] <mrcoolbp> hmm. I think so
[04:45:09] <SpallsHurgenson> gotta get our name were the peoples are! Sacrifice your beliefs for the good of the website!
[04:45:13] * idetuxs puts tinfoil hat: So facebook can TRACK ME DOWN??
[04:45:13] <mrcoolbp> let me check
[04:45:34] <SpallsHurgenson> very odd, every time I go to anything facebook related here I get a 404 :)
[04:46:06] <mrcoolbp> yeah we do
[04:46:06] <chromas> FB doesn't seem to think so
[04:46:15] <Popeidol> https://www.facebook.com
[04:46:16] <monopoly> ^ 03Neil SoylentNews | Facebook: Neil SoylentNews is on Facebook. Join Facebook to connect with Neil SoylentNews and others you may know. Facebook gives people the power to share and...
[04:46:18] <Popeidol> that's us, right?
[04:46:35] <idetuxs> neil? weird
[04:46:54] <mrcoolbp> Neil Armstrong
[04:47:07] <chromas> only one post and it's a user page
[04:47:20] <chromas> Should we make one?
[04:47:27] <SpallsHurgenson> wait, wait... have we used inaccurate personal data on Facebook? Next you'll be telling me it's birthday isn't February 2014!
[04:48:07] <idetuxs> What about a google+ page
[04:48:08] <mrcoolbp> Yeah I didn't set this account up
[04:48:15] <mrcoolbp> we have that too idetuxs
[04:48:20] <idetuxs> cool
[04:48:27] <mrcoolbp> kinda
[04:48:31] * SpallsHurgenson reports Neil Soylentnews to the Facebook authorities for this major TOS violation
[04:48:39] <mrcoolbp> crap
[04:48:42] <SpallsHurgenson> (or I would, if I hadn't blocked Facebook at the router :)
[04:48:44] <Popeidol> piping the rss feed into a facebook page is probably a solved problem, right?
[04:49:14] <mrcoolbp> It's on the to-do list to get to work on the social-media, but we were trying to take care of the incorp stuff first
[04:49:16] <Popeidol> though I feel most readers probably wouldn't consume it that way
[04:49:25] <mrcoolbp> I guess I should get on that eh?
[04:49:36] <mrcoolbp> ...now that we are a PBC
[04:50:08] <mrcoolbp> !todo social-media strategy
[04:50:08] <Bender> todo item 8 added
[04:50:43] <SpallsHurgenson> Particle Beam Cannon!
[04:50:50] <mrcoolbp> yes...that.
[04:51:39] <mrcoolbp> 4 months ago if you told me I'd be on the board of directors of a company I'd have laughed...
[04:51:49] <SpallsHurgenson> SoylentNews needs sci-fi weaponry to defend itself from rogue AIs, genetically-engineered monsters, and takeovers by Dice :)
[04:52:13] <mrcoolbp> !todo sci-fi weaponry to defend itself from rogue AIs, genetically-engineered monsters, and takeovers by Dice :)
[04:52:13] <Bender> todo item 9 added
[04:52:21] <mrcoolbp> !todo
[04:52:21] <Bender> todo for mrcoolbp: 1) get jowl bacon 2) contact Star Trek Reboot organizations 3) revisit staff meetings 4) recruit new users 5) Get ball rollin' on a site-redesign (crowd-sourced contest-y thing) 6) make sure someone else has privs on every system 7) add "or join us on IRC" to last question of FAQ" 8) social-media strategy 9) sci-fi weaponry to defend itself from - 1 more
[04:52:43] <mrcoolbp> ug
[04:53:02] <SpallsHurgenson> close enough :)
[04:53:14] <mrcoolbp> !more
[04:53:14] <SpallsHurgenson> the important part is that we have the GUNS :)
[04:53:14] <Bender> rogue AIs, genetically-engineered monsters, and takeovers by Dice :)
[04:53:20] <mrcoolbp> !todo
[04:53:20] <Bender> todo for mrcoolbp: 1) get jowl bacon 2) contact Star Trek Reboot organizations 3) revisit staff meetings 4) recruit new users 5) Get ball rollin' on a site-redesign (crowd-sourced contest-y thing) 6) make sure someone else has privs on every system 7) add "or join us on IRC" to last question of FAQ" 8) social-media strategy 9) sci-fi weaponry to defend itself from - 1 more
[04:53:21] <mrcoolbp> !more
[04:53:24] <Bender> rogue AIs, genetically-engineered monsters, and takeovers by Dice :)
[04:53:35] <SpallsHurgenson> Dice++
[04:53:35] <Bender> karma - dice: -8
[04:54:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> beer++
[04:54:39] <Bender> karma - beer: 8
[04:54:47] <mrcoolbp> rumandcoke++
[04:54:47] <Bender> karma - rumandcoke: 1
[04:54:56] <mrcoolbp> cubalibre++
[04:54:56] <Bender> karma - cubalibre: 1
[04:55:11] <SpallsHurgenson> watered-down-milk++
[04:55:16] <mrcoolbp> nope
[04:55:31] <mrcoolbp> "Access Denied"
[04:55:36] <SpallsHurgenson> awww :(
[04:56:04] <idetuxs> bender is awesome
[04:56:06] * mrcoolbp heads to much-needed bed
[04:56:20] <mrcoolbp> g'night
[04:56:29] <BlackHole> mrcoolbp, goodnight!
[04:56:33] <idetuxs> bye o/
[04:56:43] <SpallsHurgenson> may you have clean cool sheets and somebody to snuggle up with :)
[04:56:56] <mrcoolbp> Blackhole: ping me tomorrow 'round 7pm
[04:57:09] <BlackHole> k. are we triple-confirmed for that time?
[04:57:12] <mrcoolbp> SpallsHurgenson: that's the plan = )
[04:57:22] <BlackHole> it's ok if not, i will just keep it open :)
[04:57:32] <mrcoolbp> Blackhole: we are, check with NCommander
[04:58:27] <BlackHole> k. I'll track him down tomorrow.
[04:59:06] <SpallsHurgenson> roll +2 versus wisdom for tracking check
[05:00:34] <BlackHole> that would require me to touch dice. which i am not going to do :)
[05:00:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> or just say his name every 5 seconds for the next few hours
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[05:01:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup Bytram|away
[05:02:21] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[05:03:00] <NCommander> :-P
[05:03:15] <SpallsHurgenson> ack, he's worse than Cthulu!
[05:03:29] <BlackHole> NCommander, hi! did you win at DF?
[05:03:31] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: hey! I'm baaaaaack!
[05:03:51] * Bytram had to run a chkdsk /f on his main hard disk
[05:04:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'what happens when you run winders
[05:04:55] <Bytram> it's what happens with old spinning rust in a lap top that took a hard drop 6 years ago and hasn't died yet.
[05:05:11] <Bytram> screen is busted (used VGA port)
[05:05:26] <Bytram> battery is dead; I plug it in
[05:05:27] <Bytram> still works!
[05:06:05] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I just tried the link you gave me this AM and still no joy on bringing up your VM... ideas?
[05:06:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> by what link you got?
[05:06:24] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[05:06:25] <monopoly> ^ 03Dev.SN: Dev.SN is dead developers
[05:06:38] <chromas> we're getting it
[05:06:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i just tested it from staff.soylentnews.org and got it fine
[05:07:07] <Bytram> strange... I got nothin. lemme check the headers. brb
[05:07:51] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: would it make a difference if I were coming at it from behind a proxy
[05:07:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> but there's a pull request in for the whole shebang unicode megapatch now, so it should be hitting dev in a final-ish stage and people can rebase against it soon.
[05:08:05] <chromas> hey I'm in here
[05:08:10] <Bytram> !woop
[05:08:10] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[05:08:23] <chromas> no posts though
[05:08:30] <Bytram> chromas: where's "here"?
[05:08:34] <chromas> oh nm
[05:08:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> by might, dunno. would also matter if you're trying a https everywhere kind of thing cause no 443 for me
[05:08:43] <chromas> on tmb's slash instance
[05:08:53] <Bytram> nope. just plin old port 80
[05:08:58] <Bytram> s/plin/plain/
[05:08:58] <SedBot> <Bytram> nope. just plain old port 80
[05:10:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i dunno what to tell ya then man. i got no protections vs proxies but that doesn't mean the proxy is configured right.
[05:10:25] <Bytram> nod nod
[05:10:51] <Bytram> I'm using a tethered phone, so I'm sure they've got industrial-strength NAT going on
[05:11:01] <chromas> Bytram: http://107.221.166.210
[05:11:02] <monopoly> ^ 03Dev.SN: Dev.SN is dead developers
[05:11:10] <chromas> in case it's your dns or something
[05:11:29] <Bytram> hey, I'll not see UTF-8 chars, but I could try Lynx.
[05:11:32] <Bytram> brb
[05:12:17] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: popped right up in Lynx! :/
[05:12:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> funkay
[05:12:34] <Bytram> no kiddin!!
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[05:13:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> you get a blank page or does it refuse to connect?
[05:13:31] <Bytram> okaaaaaaaaay... I just tried FF again with Ctrl+F5 on the same page; comes right up... go figure!
[05:13:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> cache
[05:13:48] <Bytram> looked like the response headers did not even complete.
[05:13:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> last time you were hitting my local webserver which serves up a blank page
[05:14:20] <Bytram> ndo nod
[05:14:33] <Bytram> umm, what accounts are already there?
[05:14:39] <Bytram> !uid
[05:14:40] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4517, owned by APK
[05:14:44] <arti> lel
[05:14:45] <Bytram> LOL!!!!
[05:14:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> whatever were on dev a week or two ago
[05:14:52] <Bytram> nodnod
[05:15:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's funny, that is
[05:16:15] <Bytram> okay, I'm in! =)
[05:16:18] <Bytram> thanks buzz!
[05:16:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> gave up futzing with the router and just forwarded the port over to the vm in iptables
[05:17:20] <Bytram> KISS strikes again, eh?
[05:17:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, simple would have been setting it in the router like yer sposed to. this are a proper Ugly Hack
[05:19:06] <Bytram> yup. Sometimes the wrong solution now, is much better than the right solution, too late... but only so long as it is not forgotten!
[05:19:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> used dnat so all traffic looks like it comes from my desktop in the apache logs
[05:20:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> works though and that's all that matters for the short time it's going to be a better alternative than dev
[05:20:42] <Bytram> nod nod
[05:22:11] <Bytram> pasted in a test doc with utf-8 and named, decimal, and hex character entities... tried to preview. connection was reset. twice.
[05:22:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> neat
[05:23:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> uri too long error
[05:23:14] <SpallsHurgenson> I am very unhappy about this
[05:23:28] <SpallsHurgenson> complaining about slash's poor unicode support is a tradition!
[05:23:28] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: huh?
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[05:24:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> request content-length of 83322 is larger than the configured limit of 75000
[05:24:49] * Bytram suggests TheMightyBuzzard start frotzing some kobs somewhere
[05:24:53] <Bytram> brb food
[05:26:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, post it in two parts for the moment. i'm not screwing with the settings while i'm drinking.
[05:26:50] <Bytram> k
[05:30:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> turns out the db doesn't even like 3byte utf8, had to write entity-convert logic for everything above codepoint 0xffff
[05:30:45] <Bytram> preview did return this time!
[05:30:56] <Bytram> :(
[05:31:47] <Bytram> did you play with other symbols such as "(C)", "(R)", "+/-", "1/2" ????
[05:32:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. same limit as on dev btw. got tired of having a half-hosed db so yoinked and fixed a copy of that db.
[05:32:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't played with much at all. just enough to show that a random selection was working
[05:32:39] <Bytram> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[05:32:40] <monopoly> ^ 03Dev.SN Comments | I have spaces in my nick
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[05:33:21] <Bytram> that has the latin-1 named character entities and all their variations
[05:33:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, i dunno wtf is going on with copyright n registered entities
[05:33:42] <Bytram> keep going!
[05:35:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird. looks like i did a reversion of my own somewhere
[05:36:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> that looks suspiciously like what was happening with the ansi to ascii filter
[05:36:54] <Bytram> +/-, 1/2, 1/4, 3/4 ... and it looks like ONLY the UTF-8 chars have the grave/umlaut/circumflex/etc
[05:37:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
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[05:38:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> got a pretty good idea of where it's coming from. can jack with it tomorrow
[05:38:55] <Bytram> nod nod. hth. get a good night's sleep then and best wishes for your efforts tomorrow!
[05:39:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm up for a bit yet. got beer still needs drinking
[05:40:14] <Bytram> yeah. just remember that when the beer is gone, it's prolly time to stop. =)
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[05:50:48] <Bytram> that's it for me. my bed calls.
[05:50:52] <Bytram> g'nite everyone!
[05:51:13] <arti> nite!
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[06:03:32] <chromas> http://soylentnews.org
[06:03:32] <monopoly> ^ 04SN comment by yankprintster (4225): I typed up these responses as quickly as I could, as I have other events I need to prepare for, so please excuse any typos. I thank everyone for being civil and aski...
[06:06:31] <SpallsHurgenson> responding to questions without letting his PR team safe it first? he'll never get elected to high office if does that
[06:11:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Brain-decoding chip, algorithms give quadriplegic movement again: - http://sylnt.us - salt-and-vinegar
[06:12:31] <mrcoolbp> http://soylentnews.org
[06:12:32] <monopoly> ^ 04SN comment by yankprintster (4225): I typed up these responses as quickly as I could, as I have other events I need to prepare for, so please excuse any typos. I thank everyone for being civil and aski...
[06:12:45] * mrcoolbp goes to bed
[06:13:14] <SpallsHurgenson> the day we have always feared has finally arrived; Mecha-Hawking has come.
[06:21:55] <chromas> But will he get an arm gatling and a chest canon?
[06:22:28] <chromas> Maybe that's with two Ns
[06:23:55] <SpallsHurgenson> the gatling gun to rip 'em apart, the chest-camera to take embarrassing pictures afterwards :)
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[06:31:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Brain-decoding Chip, Algorithms Give Quadriplegic Movement - http://sylnt.us - salt-and-vinegar
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[08:29:22] <chromas> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[08:29:23] <monopoly> ^ 03It's finally happened: Bloke builds BOFH-style goofing-off cattle prod • The Register: BZZZT: Slapper man seeks funds for jolt-a-slacker device
[08:29:38] <chromas> "Crowdfunding is expected to get the Pavlok over the line and on sale by early 2015, with $250 as the target price."
[08:29:46] <chromas> It'd better be, otherwise it's going to jolt them
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[09:08:39] <arti> g'day
[09:08:46] <crutchy> g'day arti
[09:09:00] <crutchy> what's new?
[09:09:19] <arti> berries and some css
[09:09:22] * arti offers bites
[09:10:34] <crutchy> berries and bites eh. hope there's no ghosts chasing you
[09:11:06] <crutchy> you're not yellow and round with a big mouth by any chance?
[09:11:34] <arti> imagine telling someone that seriously
[09:11:41] <arti> "i hear this god awful music, and i run"
[09:11:42] <crutchy> lol
[09:12:21] <arti> how's life?
[09:12:23] <arti> making any nachos?
[09:12:34] <crutchy> bit tiring this week
[09:12:57] <crutchy> nah. looking forward to ham n cheese toasted sammich
[09:13:10] <arti> been rocking some clubs recently myself
[09:13:22] <arti> i like an egg on it
[09:13:32] * crutchy had some irc bot application ideas today
[09:13:39] <crutchy> ooh eg is good
[09:14:03] <arti> oh yeah? what would these ideas be?
[09:14:05] <crutchy> i like cooking up some rice in a pot and cracking an egg into it
[09:14:31] <arti> that's one way to do it
[09:15:07] <crutchy> was thinking about having a go at a script that can be used to record irc meeting minutes
[09:15:20] <crutchy> sort of like a log but with some extra smarts
[09:15:24] <arti> that's cool
[09:16:23] <arti> useful, make it so you can poke 'em online somewhere too
[09:16:26] <arti> or dcc it to you
[09:16:38] <crutchy> i was gunna output to web
[09:18:28] <arti> could be fun formatting the display
[09:18:35] <crutchy> make some nice formatting, auto generate attendees list based on who spoke, person who fires command is noted as chair, etc
[09:19:12] <crutchy> also try to summarize a bit
[09:19:30] <crutchy> remove some of the banter
[09:19:33] <Popeidol> don't forget a wordcloud
[09:19:56] <crutchy> ooh yeah
[09:19:58] <Popeidol> you don't want to be left behind when the web 2.0 train comes to town
[09:20:27] <crutchy> i actually did a mind map when i was thinking about this stuff. i think its the first time i really used one
[09:20:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Determining the Age of Stars with Sound Waves - http://sylnt.us - cut-them-in-half-and-count-the-rings
[09:21:37] <crutchy> was also thinking of todo list with some collaborative features like teams, prioritizing, delegation
[09:22:02] <crutchy> schedule with reminder messages (including team functions)
[09:22:12] <crutchy> mail functions
[09:22:21] <crutchy> contacts manager
[09:22:49] <crutchy> all that sorta crap. prolly won't all happen but it was fun to think about
[09:23:21] <crutchy> some of it could have web interfaces as well (like a page for viewing mails sent)
[09:23:37] <crutchy> and all from irc
[09:24:21] <Popeidol> I think you just described a bug tracker
[09:24:33] <arti> you're not getting it
[09:24:37] <arti> this does it ON IRC
[09:24:42] <arti> just like those laws, on the internet
[09:24:52] <Popeidol> quickly, somebody patent it
[09:25:01] <crutchy> there's prolly heaps of these already but i like reinventing wheels :-D
[09:25:02] * arti waits for the patent pending brand to redden
[09:25:14] <arti> reinvented wheels are licensable
[09:25:34] <crutchy> otherwise all our richest people would be cavemen
[09:25:42] <crutchy> hmm
[09:26:08] <arti> they don't live in caves, they live in deserts
[09:26:22] <crutchy> drinking black tea
[09:26:30] <Popeidol> there's probably some implementations around that are just mantis/bugzilla addons or something, but I haven't heard of any full-featured irc interfaces
[09:26:51] <arti> "it can annoy-er...reach you anywhere!"
[09:27:22] <crutchy> i was prolly looking at an outlook window when it popped into my head or something
[09:27:29] <arti> use a very verbose authentication method too, like 80s games to determine age
[09:27:41] <crutchy> nickserv works
[09:27:48] <arti> what's his day gig?
[09:28:03] <arti> i think he just fucks around online
[09:28:09] <arti> pardon me, researches
[09:28:28] <crutchy> who, nickserv? i thought he was a member of some grunge band
[09:28:54] <arti> grunge, man!
[09:29:00] <arti> like those photoshop stencils
[09:29:05] <arti> "brushes"
[09:29:18] <crutchy> ~define grungeing
[09:29:25] <exec> grungeing: unable to find definition
[09:29:36] <crutchy> maybe its one of those drop the e thingys
[09:29:49] <arti> i before e except after g.
[09:29:57] <arti> grungieng
[09:30:05] <crutchy> except for the exceptions or when you don't feel like it
[09:30:11] <arti> also holidays
[09:30:45] <arti> we need to get more people in here, should we have pizza fridays?
[09:30:55] <arti> or maybe just ice. everyone likes that
[09:31:16] <arti> not to mention it's extremely cool and refreshing
[09:31:30] <crutchy> i made the ~comment thing to try to market irc banter on SN
[09:31:42] <arti> does it make a shirt on cafepress?
[09:31:48] <arti> "DRINKMORERAPE"
[09:31:58] <arti> ~define audio rape
[09:32:00] <exec> [www.urbandictionary.com] 3audio rape: 1)Having to hear an overplayed song. 2)Being forced to hear a fucked up sound. 3)Having someone make sexual noises towards you.
[09:32:20] <crutchy> what's this APE that i should be drinking morer of?
[09:32:44] <arti> i'm not sure but the fidelity is good
[09:33:40] <crutchy> i do like highly fidellable ape
[09:34:01] <crutchy> hmm that could be taken the wrong way
[09:34:41] <arti> a howler monkey would probably be better
[09:35:09] <crutchy> their too little. might be construed as apeofeelia
[09:35:42] <crutchy> i used my wrong english there i thunk
[09:36:01] <crutchy> s/ere/ey're/
[09:36:01] <SedBot> <crutchy> i used my wrong english they're i thunk
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[09:48:10] <arti> greetings
[09:48:39] <Subsentient> derp
[09:48:45] <arti> cranial rectosis again?
[09:48:53] <Subsentient> rectosis?
[09:48:56] <Subsentient> $ddg rectosis
[09:48:56] <aqu4> No results found.
[09:49:46] <Subsentient> ...'
[09:49:53] <arti> how strange, i get the same message in my address book
[09:50:19] <Subsentient> arti: vujherklfjerlkfjkelrkfjelkrferkljfewrflkjewrfglkjwrefkl;jwrflkjjwrfjhljkhwrefkljhrwfjklhrwfkjhwefkjhwefjkhnwrfkjhwrfkjhkjhfrwef
[09:50:32] <Subsentient> was just looking for someone, but have a good evening ,I might be back. :^)
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[09:50:45] <arti> he must be speaking polish again
[09:51:02] <arti> needs more Cs and Zs, right amount of Js though
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[09:56:14] <arti> alright, off to discworld, good luck with the bot planning
[10:07:27] <crutchy> ~define rectosis
[10:07:29] <exec> [www.urbandictionary.com] 3rectosis: condition ,in which a rectum emits foul smelling odors.
[10:08:04] <crutchy> urban dictionary... is there anything it doesn't know?
[10:08:58] <crutchy> ~define meaning of life
[10:09:00] <exec> [www.urbandictionary.com] 3meaning of life: the reason or purpose for our existence
[10:09:11] <crutchy> pfft fail
[10:09:49] <chromas> ~define 42
[10:09:51] <exec> [www.urbandictionary.com] 342: The Almighty Answer to the Meaning of Life, the Universe, and Everything. It was calculated by the computer Deep Thought for seven million years and when asked to build a better computer to discover t...
[10:10:43] <crutchy> to discover.... towels?
[10:11:08] <crutchy> ~define femputer
[10:11:10] <exec> [www.urbandictionary.com] 3femputer: according to cleverbot, it's lady gaga
[10:11:16] <crutchy> lol
[10:11:34] <crutchy> ~define fempyewta
[10:11:39] <exec> fempyewta: unable to find definition
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[11:01:51] <prospectacle> hello #soylent
[11:02:07] <crutchy> hi prospectacle
[11:02:29] <crutchy> what's new?
[11:03:31] <prospectacle> Hi crutchy, not too much. Optimising code at work which is kind of fun and rare
[11:03:41] <prospectacle> What's up with you?
[11:03:55] <crutchy> eating chips
[11:04:03] <crutchy> :-P
[11:04:19] <prospectacle> sweet
[11:04:27] <crutchy> we getting a linux server at work it looks like
[11:05:52] <prospectacle> Should be fun. We had a big clean out today, hired a skip and everything. It was amzing how quickly we filled it.
[11:07:04] <prospectacle> I'm looking forward to this story that's meant to be coming with all the details of incorporation. I wonder if it's still intended for monday (in some timezone), the mondays of the world are quickly running out
[11:07:22] <prospectacle> I guess it doesn't make much difference, just interesting. The real question is when can I send them money.
[11:07:59] crutchy is now known as incorporationy_place
[11:08:03] <incorporationy_place> <<< insert money here
[11:08:08] <incorporationy_place> :-D
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[11:08:30] * prospectacle -->> $$ >> incorporationy_place
[11:08:59] <crutchy> /incorporationy_place blows it on smack
[11:09:13] <prospectacle> damn, fooled again
[11:09:48] <crutchy> been working on your todo list much?
[11:09:55] <crutchy> app thingy
[11:10:16] * crutchy offers prospectacle some skittles
[11:10:18] <prospectacle> yeah i finally finished version 2. Gotta do a tidy up of the code, then a couple of v3 features (but not all) then a proper release
[11:10:41] <prospectacle> I'll do a journal entry or something. Maybe put stuff on my wiki user page
[11:10:44] * crutchy has never proper released anything before
[11:10:53] <crutchy> sweet
[11:11:28] <prospectacle> I lost faith for a bit, but I realise I use it for everything myself anyway, so it can't be all bad.
[11:11:38] <prospectacle> just needs a few more conveniences added.
[11:11:41] <crutchy> todo lists are awesom
[11:11:42] <crutchy> e
[11:11:47] <crutchy> !todo
[11:11:47] <Bender> todo for crutchy: 1) rewrite slashcode in assembly 2) dig up monolith on the moon 3) fuck beta 4) prepare draft RFC8008135 5) make a bash bot to have bot fights with sedbot 6) bacon+noodles 7) complete todo list items 8) goto todot item 7
[11:11:49] <prospectacle> yeah everyone makes them in one form or another.
[11:11:52] <prospectacle> exactly
[11:12:09] <crutchy> dunno about that item 8
[11:12:10] <prospectacle> i like your infinite loop
[11:12:17] <crutchy> ~define todot
[11:12:19] <prospectacle> well it's accurate
[11:12:23] <exec> todot: unable to find definition
[11:12:26] <crutchy> hmm
[11:12:27] <prospectacle> todo lists are themselves, never done. It's like irony or something
[11:12:54] <crutchy> i hate irony. i would rather wear wrinkly clothes
[11:13:09] <prospectacle> yeah who decided clothes should be extra smooth anyway
[11:13:18] <prospectacle> I can't remember the last time I ironed anything
[11:14:18] * crutchy wonders if there are any australian politicians in here?
[11:14:50] <crutchy> hmm i'm pretty sure technical incompetence is a prerequisite for politics
[11:15:07] <crutchy> in australia anyway
[11:15:10] <chromas> That's how you know there aren't an in here
[11:15:14] <prospectacle> yeah that u.s. politician was some good publicity. I think with this site's ideological vision we'll gradually attract more attention
[11:15:31] <crutchy> hi chromas
[11:16:04] <chromas> hy crutchy, prospectacle, exec, juggler ciri and aqu4
[11:16:18] <prospectacle> what's happening chromas?
[11:16:22] <chromas> ~highlight everyone
[11:16:49] <chromas> Just lurking and playing online videogames with my nephew
[11:16:51] <crutchy> i think ciri has a function for that
[11:17:03] <chromas> also added a pipedot scraper
[11:17:08] <crutchy> ew
[11:17:25] <chromas> for the titlebot
[11:17:28] <prospectacle> a lot of people seem excited abotu this new dwarf fortress release. I've never played it but if i ever get a few years off I might give it a look
[11:17:44] <chromas> ciri's banned from here, though :'(
[11:17:58] <prospectacle> what's the pipedot scraper for?
[11:18:15] <crutchy> does dwarf fortress have pipes that need scraping?
[11:18:26] <prospectacle> probably, I gather it has most everything
[11:18:28] <chromas> when someone pastes a link in here then it extracts the comment or whatever instead of just showing the page title
[11:18:48] <crutchy> you could call it poop_scoop
[11:19:21] <chromas> 💩-scoop
[11:19:21] <prospectacle> oh, cool
[11:19:29] * prospectacle will be right back
[11:19:46] <chromas> I should do something besides making page scrapers…oh well
[11:19:50] <prospectacle> http://pipedot.org
[11:19:51] <monopoly> ^ 02Pipedot Article: 03 John Foreman on Facebook's data mining and manipulation02 (4 comments) by zafiro17@pipedot.org in science on 2014-07-05 15:35 (#577) Yes, everyone is angry that Facebook manipulated 700,000 users' timelines to see if they could help r...
[11:19:58] <prospectacle> cool
[11:20:02] <chromas> hey
[11:20:09] <chromas> It's supposed to chop off the @pipedot part
[11:20:22] <chromas> since they're all the same as far as I know
[11:20:23] <crutchy> and if you sign up in the next 15 minutes it will also inject fecal matter into your usb ports
[11:20:29] <chromas> I hope so
[11:20:48] <chromas> Need something to displace the spider webs
[11:20:56] <crutchy> if you're too late you will be downgraded to doesn't matter
[11:21:37] <prospectacle> Has anyone invented a good/simple way of making waterproof computer ports? e.g. charger, hdmi, etc?
[11:22:00] <crutchy> superglue works pretty good apparently
[11:22:12] <prospectacle> that would be sweet. No reason (other than ports) that you couldn't make all computers waterproof, surely? I guess the speakers are a bit of an issue, but some recent phone makers seems to have tackled that.
[11:22:28] <prospectacle> crutchy, solved!
[11:22:50] <crutchy> especially for cooling vents
[11:23:32] <chromas> For speakers, I'd think you could have a hydrophobic mesh with tiny holes
[11:23:32] <chromas> for the ports, seems like you'd just need to detect when there's a short and disable the plug
[11:23:33] <chromas> or put a tiny switch inside that only enables the port when something's plugged in
[11:23:36] <prospectacle> I use asbestos for sealing all my cooling vents becaues of the insulation value. also it's fireproof. So many upsides, no downsides
[11:23:58] <chromas> That's good; you'll need that when the computer catches fire
[11:24:01] <crutchy> http://www.youtube.com
[11:24:02] <monopoly> ^ 03Submersible Computer - YouTube: The Western Carolina University Student Computing C.R.I.B. put together a computer in a fish tank that is submersed in mineral oil. The oil cools the compone...
[11:24:05] <prospectacle> chromas, I figure that's what the latest gen phones must do for speakers.
[11:24:24] <prospectacle> chromas, would be good if you could invent a valve for plugs, ie you can plug it in and out while underwater somehow
[11:24:24] <crutchy> aw ripped off... mineral oil <> water
[11:24:39] <crutchy> chromas likes plugging in and out
[11:24:44] <chromas> My xperia z has that for speakers I guess but only plugs for the sockets. I haven't shoved it into water
[11:24:48] * chromas does
[11:25:31] <chromas> one of those magnetic plugs should be good. Not sure if the magnet's in the plug or socket
[11:25:45] <prospectacle> wireless comms and inductive charging could work
[11:25:58] <chromas> if it's in the plug then you could have the magnet pull a switch in the jack ot activate it
[11:26:00] <prospectacle> we use inductive chargers at work. They're not cheap but they're pretty clever.
[11:26:47] <chromas> Many phones have covers to add that function
[11:26:53] <chromas> third-party usually
[11:27:28] <prospectacle> that's pretty cool
[11:28:06] <prospectacle> I guess if you use wireless comms and inductive chargers you don't need any ports. Headphones can be bluetooth, tv connections can be wifi or bluetooth.
[11:28:15] <prospectacle> as long as the speaker-mesh thingy works then you're set
[11:28:58] <prospectacle> I don't know why I care it's not like I scuba dive, but would be good if computers and phones weren't afraid of water like they are now.
[11:29:45] <chromas> They should make them love water. It'd be cool to have a desktop you could drop into a pool for cooling
[11:29:53] <prospectacle> yes
[11:30:06] <chromas> Seal it up and use heatpipes or whatever to conduct the heat to some outside fins
[11:30:18] <chromas> Then throw your server in the cr(ee/ic)k out back
[11:30:44] <chromas> Or maybe laminate the motherboard
[11:31:32] <prospectacle> yeah also you could read and watch stuff in the shower or while doing the washing up or whatever
[11:32:06] <chromas> yeah, uh…read…that's what I do in the shower with my tablet
[11:32:15] <prospectacle> lol
[11:32:38] <chromas> Speaking of mobile, the absolute worst thing they've ever done is make mobile pages unzoomable. wtf?
[11:33:21] <crutchy> optocouplers
[11:33:42] <prospectacle> yeah people are still often bad at designing full size web sites. i think it's going to be a decade or so before the average mobile website is well designed.
[11:33:44] <crutchy> sorry i'm a bit late to the conversation
[11:34:19] <crutchy> by then we will have web 7 anyway, or it might be web vista
[11:34:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab crutchy
[11:34:38] <Bender> Added quote 198
[11:34:59] <prospectacle> !quote crutchy
[11:34:59] <Bender> Quote 27 - <crutchy> buggered if i know
[11:35:03] <Bender> Also in quotes: 28, 33, 34, 37, 39, 40, 46, 47, 54, 58, 59, 60, 69, 70, 71, 77, 122, 123, 131, 133, 137, 140, 144, 157, 159, 162, 167, 174, 175, 177, 181, 187, 194, 198
[11:35:16] <crutchy> woah
[11:35:30] <chromas> you're popular
[11:35:32] <crutchy> it's better than numbersketi
[11:35:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya man, you talk more than me
[11:35:46] <chromas> One thing that sucks about html is with all the separation of content and layout, the content is still filled with non-content
[11:36:09] * crutchy just hardcodes everything in php
[11:37:18] <crutchy> or could go with slashcode's method of editing files and then storing in in a database and then pulling it out and shoving it up its own ass
[11:37:23] <prospectacle> yeah html is interesting, the basics are easy, but then try doing a large maintainable base and feel the burn
[11:37:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab crutchy
[11:37:45] <Bender> Added quote 199
[11:37:48] <chromas> Well I'm thinking of all the navigation and outside links and stuff. There's no standard tag set for articles or the main body or whatever
[11:38:02] <chromas> crutchy's as quoteable as NC
[11:38:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> had a dream last night that slash had an api
[11:38:52] <chromas> There's something to do
[11:39:09] <crutchy> did you have to wash the urine out of your bedsheets?
[11:39:17] <chromas> If one was added, would it need to go through slash itself? Or just directly hit the db?
[11:39:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> no real reason it should go through slash
[11:39:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> plenty of good reasons it shouldn't
[11:40:00] <chromas> make it, then you can port slash to it, so it uses its own api
[11:40:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, slash is too big
[11:40:14] <prospectacle> chromas, it's true, I think making the semantic web is not easy, or a great idea, or necessary. The trick is to define your document/structure in php or something and just use html as a presentation layer
[11:40:20] <crutchy> you probably have to include your program, run some other program to insert your program into the db, then run slashd, and then watch slashd crap on itself and bork the whole system
[11:40:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, ideally you don't even run it on the same box
[11:41:23] <crutchy> prospectacle maybe only plumbers should be allowed to program websites. they are most qualified to maintain the tubes
[11:41:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> well that explains it then. i used to be a plumber.
[11:42:04] * crutchy is going to have a frosty fruit in 23 minutes
[11:42:05] <chromas> prospectacle: maybe we could just have simple html for the body and then an xml (or json; whatever) block that contains the index and let the browser figure out the layout and make the pretty menus according to my settings
[11:42:14] <crutchy> ~set-reminder 23 mins
[11:42:27] <prospectacle> frosty fruits are good. I might have a monaco bar
[11:42:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> was great practice for when i took up running an isp. both of them you're dealing with the shit of morons.
[11:42:33] <crutchy> hmm i should make a script for that
[11:42:40] <chromas> So, TheMightyBuzzard, let me ask you a question about plumbing…you know, free advice
[11:42:41] <chromas> :D
[11:43:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> free advice, find a female plumber. buttcrack becomes a perk instead of a detraction of the whole experience.
[11:43:44] <prospectacle> chromas, that's an interesting idea. a standard interface that's skinned by the user not the site. Could have merit as an optional or additional view of the site then you get the best of both worlds
[11:45:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know i'd pay $10/hr extra if the ass sticking out from under my sink for half an hour were a hot chick's.
[11:45:27] <chromas> That way I get to dictate what it looks like but they could still supply a skin if they want to have flashing rainbows or whatever
[11:45:35] <crutchy> are male plumbers qualified to maintain female plumbing?
[11:45:47] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: you would but she would probably be just as fat as the dude
[11:45:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, nobody is. that shit's insane.
[11:46:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, would indeed be my luck.
[11:46:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> afc
[11:46:47] <chromas> ding, ding ding ding!
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[11:50:15] <prospectacle> space_man you must have a fast rocket ship
[11:52:50] * crutchy often wonders how people choose their nick
[11:53:38] <crutchy> mine is a nick that i've had since i was a kid and is just based on my surname
[11:53:50] <chromas> is crutchy every disappointed when he finds out?
[11:54:09] <crutchy> is that what nickserv does?
[11:54:19] <prospectacle> mine is about the fourth proper nick i've had in my internet chatting career. I chose it cause I like to think about the future and making plans.
[11:54:47] <prospectacle> not becuase I'm in favour of spectacles
[11:55:17] <crutchy> my internet chatting career started in about february this year
[11:55:40] <crutchy> now i dunno where the off switch is
[11:55:53] <chromas> addict
[11:56:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:56:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 334
[11:56:37] <chromas> (says the guy who IRCs from desktop, phone and tablet 24hrs/day)
[11:57:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, got buzz in my teens as it was my natural state. it got further lengthened to its current state by a cousin.
[11:58:05] <prospectacle> yeah irc is super addictive. With that in mind i'll catch you guys a bit later i'm going for a nice cold night walk. Enjoy
[11:58:05] <crutchy> hmm i do hope you're referring to your internet chat career
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[12:00:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> sweet zombie jesus this is some good coffee
[12:01:45] <chromas> Trying something different?
[12:01:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Alice Strikes Again - http://sylnt.us - Watch-out-Bob
[12:02:23] <chromas> I remember Alice. At some point, they took the bloody knife out of her hand on the cover
[12:02:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, just really needed coffee this am
[12:03:09] <Azrael> Alice? Alice? Who the fuck is Alice?
[12:03:28] <chromas> She's the one always trying to talk to Silent Bob
[12:03:46] <Azrael> she lives next door to him?
[12:03:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> cat from the smurfs: little blonde girl in a blue dress
[12:06:28] <crutchy> she's a zombie killer with no tits
[12:07:35] <Konomi> switch to the channel, read the first line
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[12:52:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
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[13:00:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CentOS 7 Released - http://sylnt.us - just-for-info
[13:00:43] <crutchy> cheese++
[13:00:44] <Bender> karma - cheese: 1
[13:00:46] <chromas> brahahaha
[13:00:47] <crutchy> ham++
[13:00:47] <Bender> karma - ham: 1
[13:01:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep. since i'm in coding limbo while i wait on my pull request to get cleaned up and go through, ima fuck completely off and play video games.
[13:01:24] <crutchy> centos vista was a flop
[13:02:02] <crutchy> you can still code
[13:02:04] <chromas> vidya games eh
[13:02:20] <chromas> Yeah, TheMightyBuzzard, what about that slash api you were all excited and wet over?
[13:02:25] <crutchy> vijo games
[13:02:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, prolly take a month or two to write.
[13:02:52] <chromas> Then you'd better get started, huh
[13:03:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> so it gets to wait until after the 14-08 release
[13:03:06] <crutchy> you can uncrappify my bot
[13:03:18] <chromas> Well if there's any projects non perl-related, I'd be happy to contribute some bugs
[13:03:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, and work with php? feh.
[13:03:37] <crutchy> yeah that occurred to me
[13:04:07] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: it also runs other scripts, like perl or pascal if you want
[13:04:18] <chromas> exec can run anything
[13:04:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know lotsa folks get annoyed with it but it's my language of choice
[13:05:07] <chromas> I just haven't bothered to try; I see some perl and go "oh noes!" and run off without trying
[13:05:08] <crutchy> even marathons!
[13:05:21] <chromas> perpetual exec
[13:05:34] <crutchy> even windows!
[13:05:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> can it run emacs though?
[13:05:59] <crutchy> dunno
[13:06:06] <crutchy> prolly
[13:06:13] <chromas> you'd have to break down and install it first
[13:06:19] <chromas> that's not gonna happen
[13:06:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i can't run emacs on this system for just that reason
[13:06:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that i'd want to
[13:06:51] <crutchy> i could make a script to apt-get install emacs so that i wouldn't have to do it
[13:07:27] <crutchy> except i'd have to run exec as root
[13:07:31] <crutchy> that might be fun :-P
[13:07:35] <chromas> ~pacaur -S *
[13:08:00] <chromas> ^ probably doesn't accept asterisks
[13:08:27] <chromas> archlinux++
[13:08:27] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 6
[13:08:48] <crutchy> nano++
[13:08:48] <Bender> karma - nano: 5
[13:09:09] <crutchy> chromas, i killed your reminder :-(
[13:09:19] <chromas> that seems to be the default on arch; I don't care for the key shortcuts though
[13:09:24] <crutchy> i learned something from it though
[13:09:27] <chromas> like ^W for search
[13:09:34] <crutchy> exec detects a killed process
[13:09:36] <chromas> does it eat memory
[13:09:43] <crutchy> nah
[13:09:43] <chromas> ooh
[13:09:47] <chromas> how does it react?
[13:09:48] <crutchy> i wanna fix the script
[13:09:58] <crutchy> it just says process terminated normally :-P
[13:10:22] <chromas> Also I like using / to search, like in vim and many X programs, except in web browsers when assholes like facebook steal it to do a web search
[13:10:30] <chromas> ah
[13:10:46] <crutchy> assbook
[13:10:50] <crutchy> omg
[13:10:55] <crutchy> ~isup assbook.com
[13:11:12] <exec> assbook.com: error connecting
[13:11:21] <crutchy> !
[13:11:37] <chromas> Should've put that in the name vote
[13:16:48] <prospectacle> ( | )
[13:17:07] <crutchy> i think its broke prospectacle
[13:17:11] <crutchy> i can see a crack
[13:17:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> say... we can use unicode in domain names now, right?
[13:17:54] <chromas> Can we have a unicode tld?
[13:18:13] <chromas> the next unicode should add a middle finger icon
[13:18:14] <crutchy> i think chromas was working on an api for slash via url js injection
[13:18:16] <prospectacle> that would be cool, there are some good unicode characters. Chess pieces, smiley faces, skulls,etc
[13:18:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, not sure if it's gone through or not.
[13:19:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, slash actively strips <script> tags from requests
[13:19:25] <crutchy> even unicoded?
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[13:19:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, wouldn't work as entities.
[13:19:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> it would just display
[13:20:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin Bytram|away
[13:20:49] <crutchy> prolly right, but facebook prolly thought js wouldn't work in their app too before that injection hack a while back
[13:21:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> you haves teh mail
[13:21:15] <crutchy> mornin Bytram|away
[13:21:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, facebook is a hell of a lot more open to user input.
[13:21:31] <Bytram|away> crutchy: monrin
[13:21:34] <Bytram|away> coffee++
[13:21:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 335
[13:21:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:21:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 336
[13:21:46] <Bytram|away> TheMightyBuzzard: g'day!
[13:21:47] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:21:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 337
[13:21:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, refill time
[13:22:03] <crutchy> speaking of.... ooh a pony!
[13:22:17] <Bytram|away> TheMightyBuzzard: FYI tried your vm about 10/15(?) minutes ago and got a 503.
[13:22:36] <crutchy> do we have a slashnet going?
[13:24:30] <chromas> no connect here now
[13:24:51] <chromas> no route to host
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[13:25:34] <crutchy> what's the address?
[13:25:50] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard.com
[13:27:06] <chromas> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[13:27:48] <chromas> ooh newly discovered bug
[13:28:44] <chromas> that's odd; curl says no route but I can ping
[13:28:45] <Bytram> boffins find BIG Bird fossils: http://go.theregister.com
[13:28:46] <monopoly> ^ 03SEABIRD on STEROIDS shocker: Boffins spot largest EVER flying bird • The Register: Well, its fossilised remains, anyway ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[13:29:10] * Bytram didn't try a ping, brb
[13:29:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya it's turned off on account of i was about to reboot for some baddie chopping
[13:29:20] <chromas> ah
[13:29:26] <Bytram> vm
[13:29:30] <chromas> well that's what you get for sticking around to chat eh
[13:29:30] <Bytram> nvm
[13:29:54] <crutchy> ~isup tmbvm.ddns.net
[13:29:58] <chromas> But at least I discovered the titlebot leaves a hanging process when it can't connect
[13:29:59] <exec> tmbvm.ddns.net: error connecting
[13:30:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> always glad to help debug when it means not doing anything
[13:30:51] <crutchy> ~isup tmbvm.ddns.net override-themightybuzzards-power-off-setting
[13:30:52] <exec> tmbvm.ddns.net override-themightybuzzards-power-off-setting: error connecting
[13:31:37] <Bytram> crutchy: you forgot the --with-way-more-powah switch
[13:32:02] <crutchy> damn. i'm no good at this typey commandy stuff
[13:32:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> anywho, tis reboot n zap baddies with magic time. Divinity: Original Sin is funs.
[13:32:55] <chromas> funs++
[13:32:55] <Bender> karma - funs: 1
[13:32:59] <chromas> funds++ too
[13:32:59] <Bender> karma - funds: 1
[13:33:17] <chromas> windows--
[13:33:17] <Bender> karma - windows: -6
[13:33:21] <chromas> wine++
[13:33:21] <Bender> karma - wine: 1
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[13:33:23] <Bytram> crutchy: invoke help from the NCommandy ??
[13:33:42] <crutchy> wtf! http://www.tpc.int
[13:33:44] <monopoly> ^ 03Object not found!
[13:33:48] <crutchy> lol
[13:33:53] <crutchy> phew
[13:34:03] <crutchy> open tpc.int in your browser
[13:34:23] <crutchy> does it give you a directory of your own web server thingy?
[13:34:57] <chromas> yep
[13:35:20] <chromas> I was using my dynamic dns to bypass my own localhost filter for testing earlier :D
[13:36:23] <chromas> yet when I run host on that domain I get a "no servers could be reached"
[13:36:33] <chromas> dig++
[13:36:34] <Bender> karma - dig: 1
[13:37:35] <crutchy> web-sniffer.net says Connect to tpc.int on port 80 ... failed
[13:39:14] <chromas> I wonder if he's tried running games in wine recently
[13:39:15] <crutchy> http://picpaste.com
[13:39:16] <monopoly> ^ 03403 Forbidden
[13:39:32] <chromas> guess I should set the user agent to something else
[13:39:36] <crutchy> lol
[13:39:59] <chromas> though I've noticed if I do a browser's string then google redirects to https link (but doesn't for curl/wget UAs)
[13:40:08] <crutchy> just set it to firefox's... then monopoly can be people too :-)
[13:40:33] <chromas> I wonder how they check, if it's just a keyword search
[13:40:44] <crutchy> i use a blacklist
[13:40:55] <chromas> then I could just make it "firefox mozilla IE opera chrome safari"
[13:41:17] <chromas> which is pretty much how they are now anyway but with extra slashes and stuff
[13:41:35] <crutchy> $Blacklist=array("facebook","google","mail","bot","spider","search","proxy","link","agent","crawl","mine","seek","auto","fish","check","hit","count","jeeves","include","script");
[13:41:36] * Bytram notices that Lynx is omitted
[13:41:51] <chromas> and links
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[14:01:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Google Map Hackers Can Destroy a Business at Will - http://sylnt.us - Not-going-to-make-a-bear-pun!
[14:02:17] <Bytram> hey! monopoly! http://sylnt.us
[14:02:19] <monopoly> ^ 04SN article 03 How Google Map Hackers Can Destroy a Business at Will 04(0 comments): AnonTechie writes: Washington DC-area residents with a hankering for lion meat lost a valuable source of the (yes, legal) delicacy last year when a restaurant ca... ( http://soylentnews.org )
[14:02:53] <chromas> I wonder if I should strip the from=rss
[14:02:59] <chromas> replace it with from=monopoly
[14:03:05] <chromas> or =irc
[14:03:29] <crutchy> http://www.schneierfacts.com
[14:03:31] <monopoly> ^ 03Bruce Schneier Facts: Things you might not know about cryptographer and security expert Bruce Schneier
[14:04:55] <Bytram> chromas: I dunno. do you have a one-off filter specifically for SN? If so, then I'd suggest it's okay to nuke the "&from=rss"
[14:05:11] <chromas> I can
[14:05:16] <Bytram> otherwise (general filtering on all urls) could be "tricky"
[14:05:34] <chromas> it does have special scrapers for sn, pd and mediawikis
[14:06:56] <chromas> I also updated the UA string for maximum compatibility
[14:06:59] <chromas> monopoly/1 (Mozilla Gecko Netscape lynx links2 Firefox IE safari konqueror opera chrome googlebot bingbot)
[14:07:12] <chromas> Probably missed a few hundred
[14:07:18] <Bytram> nod nod; I'd recommend removing it, then. My viewpoint is I'd prefer to have the URLs presented with the minimum amount of "stuff" necessary to access the destination
[14:07:32] <Bytram> but, pls do not use any kind of link-shortening system.
[14:07:42] <chromas> "RMS's web2email Gateway/2.4"
[14:07:52] <Bytram> lol
[14:08:26] <chromas> nah that's extra work. It only changes the link according to server redirects
[14:08:36] <chromas> though it still doesn't handle relative ones :/
[14:08:44] * chromas be lazy
[14:09:15] <crutchy> "if Bruce Schneier's beard and Chuck Norris' beard got into a fight, who would win?"
[14:09:32] <Bytram> chromas: relative ones? not following you there. example?
[14:10:10] <chromas> I heard server redirects can be relative, so instead of linking to http://site it would just be /newpage
[14:10:43] <chromas> I don't think I've come across such but I think crutchy did
[14:11:16] <crutchy> what did i do?
[14:11:18] <chromas> I wonder if it would be okay to just generically strip from=rss
[14:11:19] <Bytram> chromas: that's not "relative", per se. that is just leaving out the access "scheme" and the "domain name".
[14:11:48] <Bytram> chromas: yeah, stripping "&from=rss" should be okay
[14:11:52] <chromas> it's relative to the host but anyway I still haven't added support (checking and appending the host)
[14:11:57] <chromas> prepending
[14:12:11] <crutchy> just parse out everything but the host and uri maybe
[14:13:24] <crutchy> s/uri/query
[14:13:24] * SedBot offers crotchy a /
[14:14:03] <crutchy> ~php parse_url
[14:14:04] <exec> mixed parse_url( string $url [, int $component = -1] )
[14:14:13] <crutchy> is there a freepas equiv of ^
[14:16:19] <chromas> There's a unit that does url parsing
[14:16:29] <Bytram> chromas: not quite. "http://example.com/dir1/dir2/file.ext" "http:" is the scheme "example.com" is the domain and "/dir1/dir2/file.ext" is an *absolute* address to a resource on the site. Now, if file.ext *contains* a link to "/foo/bar.ext" that is an *absolute* address to: http://example.com"; but, if it *contains* a link to "foo/bar.ext" that is a *relative* link from where the current
[14:16:29] <Bytram> document is in the directory heirarchy and would actually point to "http://example.com/dir1/dir2/foo/bar.ext"
[14:16:30] <monopoly> ^ 03Example Domain
[14:16:31] <monopoly> ^ 03Example Domain
[14:16:31] <monopoly> ^ 03Example Domain
[14:16:31] <monopoly> ^ 03Example Domain
[14:16:31] <monopoly> ^ 03Example Domain
[14:16:31] <monopoly> ^ 03Example Domain
[14:16:32] <monopoly> ^ 03Example Domain
[14:16:32] <monopoly> ^ 03Example Domain
[14:16:47] <chromas> /do herps
[14:16:47] * monopoly herps
[14:18:02] <chromas> probably should ignore example.com :D
[14:18:26] <crutchy> it did the right thing though
[14:19:13] <crutchy> it said "bytram, here take your example domain and... (herps)"
[14:19:15] <Bytram> chromas: nope. I *like* what it did.
[14:20:00] <chromas> crutchy: s/s\)/es\)/
[14:20:00] <SedBot> <chromas> <crutchy> it said "bytram, here take your example domain and... (herpes)"
[14:20:01] <Bytram> it did *not* quietly ignore it, it looked at *each* and every link in the record, and provided an appropriate "translation"
[14:20:28] <Bytram> well done!
[14:20:40] <Bytram> (which is MUCH better than half-baked!) =)
[14:20:50] <chromas> oh it's totally half-baked
[14:21:01] <chromas> the code would make slash cry
[14:21:02] <crutchy> maybe it could look at all domains in a given message, and if it sees 5 that are the same it could return an "appropriate" response, like "wtf are you smoking?"
[14:21:10] <chromas> both the software and the guitar player
[14:21:34] <crutchy> slash makes slash cry
[14:21:43] <chromas> it could; they're added to a string list, which can automatically check for dupes
[14:21:44] <crutchy> just before it craps on itself
[14:22:19] <Bytram> crutchy: I disagree. order is significant. http://example.com http://www.arstechnica.com http://127.0.0.1:80 https://soylentnews.org
[14:22:20] <monopoly> ^ 03Example Domain
[14:22:20] <monopoly> ^ 03Ars Technica: Serving the Technologist for more than a decade. IT news, reviews, and analysis. ( http://arstechnica.com )
[14:22:21] <monopoly> ^ 03Ars Technica: Serving the Technologist for more than a decade. IT news, reviews, and analysis. ( http://arstechnica.com )
[14:22:21] <monopoly> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[14:22:48] <Bytram> crutchy: I disagree. order is significant. http://example.com http://www.arstechnica.com http://google.com http://127.0.0.1:80 https://soylentnews.org
[14:22:50] <monopoly> ^ 03Example Domain
[14:22:50] <monopoly> ^ 03Ars Technica: Serving the Technologist for more than a decade. IT news, reviews, and analysis. ( http://arstechnica.com )
[14:22:50] <monopoly> ^ 03Google: Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're looking for. ( http://www.google.com )
[14:22:51] <monopoly> ^ 03Google: Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're looking for. ( http://www.google.com )
[14:22:51] <monopoly> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[14:22:58] <crutchy> maybe if it sees 5 same in a row
[14:23:05] <crutchy> or maybe 10
[14:23:19] <chromas> then it could automaticall $burrito the user
[14:23:26] <chromas> the from-rss is stripped now
[14:23:30] <Bytram> chromas: OOOOPS! numeric local address reports it's coming from the *previous* location.
[14:23:45] <chromas> though I don't know why the slash url shortener escapes the ampersand
[14:24:08] <Bytram> http://example.com http://www.arstechnica.com http://google.com http://127.0.0.1:80 https://soylentnews.org http://127.0.0.1:80
[14:24:09] <monopoly> ^ 03Example Domain
[14:24:09] <monopoly> ^ 03Ars Technica: Serving the Technologist for more than a decade. IT news, reviews, and analysis. ( http://arstechnica.com )
[14:24:10] <monopoly> ^ 03Google: Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're looking for. ( http://www.google.com )
[14:24:10] <monopoly> ^ 03Google: Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're looking for. ( http://www.google.com )
[14:24:10] <monopoly> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[14:24:10] <monopoly> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[14:24:22] <chromas> http://127.0.0.1:80
[14:24:29] <crutchy> http://tpc.int
[14:24:49] <crutchy> coffee++
[14:24:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 338
[14:24:55] <chromas> http://127.0.0.1:80
[14:25:00] <crutchy> phew i thought i zonked for a moment
[14:25:01] <chromas> http://tpc.int
[14:25:08] <chromas> hm that's causing a hangup again
[14:25:15] <crutchy> that one's a nasty one
[14:25:19] <crutchy> sorry :-P
[14:25:22] <chromas> it's okay
[14:25:24] <Bytram> ok, time for me to get going on getting out the door for the day job...
[14:25:30] <chromas> but dammit, I need that 204K of ram back!
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[14:25:51] <chromas> need to figure out why it doth that
[14:26:36] <chromas> or become less hacking. aqu4's title thing is cool; only checks the first part of the page
[14:26:40] <crutchy> i never used curl before so dunno if i could be much help :-(
[14:26:53] <chromas> Although I think it's the first 1024 chars, which is not enough to get the title of soylentnews
[14:26:55] <crutchy> aqu4 has a title thing?
[14:27:00] <chromas> $title
[14:27:04] <crutchy> ah
[14:27:11] <chromas> ~say $title http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:12] <monopoly> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[14:27:13] <exec> $title http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:13] <monopoly> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[14:27:14] <aqu4> Title for page http://soylentnews.org "SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people"
[14:27:14] <crutchy> maybe just strip the header
[14:27:14] <monopoly> ^ 03404 File Not Found
[14:27:20] <chromas> hm it gets it
[14:27:39] <chromas> must be reading more chars than I thought
[14:29:04] <chromas> nah it's my code that's borking. I could push to gh if you want to tear up :)
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[14:29:47] <crutchy> i made a strip_headers function for exec
[14:29:55] <chromas> I just noticed I have a check for localhost commented out and then another line with the same check
[14:30:22] <chromas> if you only want the header, try doing a head instead of get
[14:30:34] <crutchy> i got that too :-D
[14:30:45] <chromas> it should theoretically get the same header but without it sending anything
[14:30:48] <crutchy> function whead($host,$uri,$port=80,$agent="",$extra_headers="",$timeout=20)
[14:30:56] <chromas> cool
[14:32:06] <crutchy> i made whead, wget, wpost, etc
[14:32:18] <crutchy> made wget_ssl too, but it just calls wget with 443 as the port
[14:32:45] <chromas> gettinghead++
[14:32:45] <Bender> karma - gettinghead: 1
[14:33:24] <crutchy> i'm not familiar with that concept but i vaguely remember something from my distant past
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[14:39:29] <chromas> Get in the kitchen and make her a sammich!
[14:39:35] <chromas> or like salads and stuff
[14:40:05] <Woods> Any girl that demands multiple salads for a meal is too needy.
[14:40:08] <crutchy> i make her cups of tea and money
[14:40:12] <crutchy> lol
[14:40:22] <crutchy> err not cups of money
[14:40:40] <Woods> Money-garnished tea. Dang your house is weird.
[14:41:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Google Map Crackers Can Destroy a Business at Will - http://sylnt.us - Not-going-to-make-a-bear-pun!
[14:47:22] <crutchy> yes... my house is weird. it is my house's fault, not mine :-P
[14:53:27] <chromas> oh I get it
[14:53:36] <chromas> it was an s/H/Cr/
[14:53:39] <chromas> on the farticle
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[14:58:12] <Konomi> freaking arrays of arrays grr
[14:58:21] <crutchy> farticle++
[14:58:21] <Bender> karma - farticle: 2
[14:58:26] <crutchy> ?
[14:58:34] <crutchy> !whoup farticle
[14:58:34] <Bender> uppers of farticle are: crutchy: 2
[14:58:37] <crutchy> lol
[14:59:10] <crutchy> i've been here too long
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[14:59:24] <Bytram|away> gtg have a great day everyone!
[14:59:44] <Bytram|away> !whoup coffee
[14:59:44] <Bender> uppers of coffee are: crutchy: 180, TheMightyBuzzard: 67, Blackmoore: 41, MrBluze: 15, Bytram: 12, AndyTheAbsurd: 8, chromas: 4, mrcoolbp: 4, mattie_p: 4, arti: 4, TheMightyLaptop: 2, exec: 2, crutchy_: 2, TheMightyBuzzard|Book: 2, Blackmoore|afk: 2, TK: 2, Bytram|away: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Out: 1, chimp: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Gone: 1, xlefay: 1, crutchy|zzz: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|AFK: - 1 more
[14:59:45] <crutchy> cya Bytram|away
[14:59:52] <Bytram|away> !whoup bacon
[14:59:52] <Bender> uppers of bacon are: kobach: 63, stderr: 46, crutchy: 27, xlefay: 17, mattie_p: 14, Blackmoore: 11, xyzzyyzzyx: 9, Alberto: 8, juggs: 7, pbnjoe: 5, MrBluze: 5, Marneus68: 3, chromas: 2, stdhell: 2, aqu4: 2, TheMightyBuzzard: 2, MrBluze_Cmd: 2, Konomi: 2, Bytram: 2, FoobarBazbot: 2, swiss: 2, Mattiep: 1, paulej72_afk: 1, FatPhil: 1, hax0rz: 1, keick: 1, useless: 1, Ethanol-fueled: - 1 more
[14:59:56] <Bytram|away> lol
[15:00:06] <crutchy> no surprises there :-P
[15:00:07] <Bytram|away> crutchy: ciao for now!
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[15:00:34] <Woods> That farticle moment is too perfect.
[15:00:42] <Woods> I wish grab would snag multiple lines.
[15:01:05] <chromas> ~define farticle
[15:01:05] <exec> [soylent] farticle: What you call one tiny bubble out of all the bubbles when you fart in the tub.
[15:01:14] <crutchy> lol
[15:01:40] <Woods> wut
[15:01:59] <chromas> Funny 'cause I invented that word for myself a few years ago
[15:02:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Foxconn Confirms Apple will be First Customer for its 'Foxbot' Robot Assembly Line - http://sylnt.us - come-on,-Decepticon-punk!
[15:02:41] <Woods> Before, or after a typo?
[15:02:58] <crutchy> now they can fire all their workers that weren't costing them much (except nets to stop them committing suicide
[15:03:15] <crutchy> ) and replace with expensive robots
[15:04:31] <chromas> I wish there was a slash api. Then we could have stats in here
[15:05:11] * chromas doesn't begin working on it
[15:08:25] <crutchy> stats for what?
[15:08:50] <crutchy> nummer of swear words per day?
[15:10:09] <chromas> Sure. Or comment counts of whatever
[15:10:16] <chromas> Or
[15:11:17] <stdhell> Average comment score...
[15:11:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> average total moderation per day per article
[15:13:44] <crutchy> and then we can plot mwahahahaha!
[15:13:52] <chromas> Yeah. Stuff we could get by scraping but that wastes cycles and bandwidth. Maybe piwik has an interface
[15:14:10] <crutchy> but but but....
[15:15:34] <stdhell> crutchy: s/but/bot/g
[15:15:35] <SedBot> <stdhell> <crutchy> bot bot bot....
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[15:16:57] <chromas> crutchy: s/t/tt/g
[15:16:57] <SedBot> <chromas> <crutchy> butt butt butt....
[15:17:09] <crutchy> my bot is *designed* to waste cycles, bandwidth, effort, time, etc...
[15:17:10] <stdhell> No butts! And No fat chicks!
[15:17:55] <chromas> ^
[15:20:03] <chromas> crutchy: mine too. There are so many function calls that convert string to lowercase for comparison then throw it away only to do it again
[15:20:34] <stdhell> https://twitter.com
[15:20:35] <monopoly> ^ 03Twitter / cmdrtaco: transcription of the Apollo ...: Connect with your friends — and other fascinating people. Get in-the-moment updates on the things that interest you. And watch events unfold, in real time, from...
[15:22:02] <stdhell> Can someone fix monopoly so &#(\d+); and &#x([0-9A-Fa-f]+); gets converted?
[15:23:54] <stdhell> https://twitter.com
[15:23:55] <monopoly> ^ 03Twitter / conradhackett: "The fourth law of ...: Connect with your friends — and other fascinating people. Get in-the-moment updates on the things that interest you. And watch events unfold, in real time, from...
[15:24:01] <chromas> It doesn't convert because twitter escapes the ampersand
[15:27:42] <stdhell> Odd... I get the danish version and there's no escaping there.
[15:27:52] <chromas> stdhell: it comes from the meta description tags
[15:28:31] <stdhell> Yes... I get the danish version of that description. Without any escaping.
[15:29:31] <chromas> I guess I don't get that version
[15:29:58] <stdhell> wget -O- -q https://twitter.com | grep 'meta name="description"' | hexdump -C
[15:29:58] <stdhell> 00000000 20 20 3c 6d 65 74 61 20 6e 61 6d 65 3d 22 64 65 | <meta name="de|
[15:29:58] <stdhell> 00000010 73 63 72 69 70 74 69 6f 6e 22 20 63 6f 6e 74 65 |scription" conte|
[15:29:58] <stdhell> 00000020 6e 74 3d 22 46 6f 72 62 69 6e 64 20 6d 65 64 20 |nt="Forbind med |
[15:29:58] <stdhell> 00000030 64 69 6e 65 20 76 65 6e 6e 65 72 20 e2 80 94 20 |dine venner .. |
[15:29:59] <monopoly> ^ 03Twitter / conradhackett: "The fourth law of ...: Connect with your friends — and other fascinating people. Get in-the-moment updates on the things that interest you. And watch events unfold, in real time, from...
[15:30:00] <stdhell> 00000040 6f 67 20 61 6e 64 72 65 20 66 61 73 63 69 6e 65 |og andre fascine|
[15:30:02] <stdhell> 00000050 72 65 6e 64 65 20 70 65 72 73 6f 6e 65 72 2e 20 |rende personer. |
[15:30:32] <stdhell> e2 80 94 is UTF-8 for "EM DASH".
[15:31:51] <stdhell> ... which is the same as —
[15:35:06] <crutchy> <meta name="description" content="Connect with your friends &#8212; and other fascinating people. Get in-the-moment updat
[15:35:19] <chromas> &#8212;
[15:35:23] <chromas> oh yeah, crutchy got it
[15:35:33] <stdhell> Yes, I get that too now that I have added --header='Accept-Language: en'
[15:35:36] <stdhell> ODD!!!
[15:36:10] <crutchy> twatter's UTF-8-foo is not strong
[15:36:51] <crutchy> maybe it's twatter beta
[15:38:55] <chromas> I guess I could call the resolver function twice :)
[15:39:22] <crutchy> would probably work too
[15:39:54] <crutchy> (as in not fuck anything else)
[15:40:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Remote Control Contraceptive Chip Available by 2018? - http://sylnt.us - Opt-in
[15:40:48] <crutchy> erm?
[15:41:52] <chromas> I guess uh, computers are penetrating everything now
[15:42:11] <crutchy> Bender: s/ip/ick/
[15:42:13] <SedBot> <critchy> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Remote Control Contraceptive Chick Available by 2018? - http://sylnt.us - Opt-in
[15:43:24] <crutchy> Bender: s/Opt-in/paper-bag-included/
[15:43:24] <SedBot> <crutchy> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Remote Control Contraceptive Chip Available by 2018? - http://sylnt.us - paper-bag-included
[15:43:43] <crutchy> oops
[15:45:21] <stdhell> chromas: stackoverflow.com/questions/3311705/should-meta-tags-be-html-encoded/3311729#3311729
[15:45:48] <crutchy> coffee++
[15:45:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 339
[15:46:02] <crutchy> ech linky no worka
[15:46:16] <stdhell> So you do the right thing and Twitter is wrong.
[15:46:27] <stdhell> http://stackoverflow.com
[15:46:28] <monopoly> ^ 03standards - Should meta tags be Html Encoded - Stack Overflow: I generally HtmlEncode any user generated content that I render on my website, so ampersands etc. become & and so on, but was wondering, should this be done (from...
[15:46:30] <stdhell> Better?
[15:46:53] <stdhell> Or maybe: http://stackoverflow.com
[15:46:54] <monopoly> ^ 03standards - Should meta tags be Html Encoded - Stack Overflow: I generally HtmlEncode any user generated content that I render on my website, so ampersands etc. become & and so on, but was wondering, should this be done (from... ( http://stackoverflow.com )
[15:46:56] <chromas> Ah then I will change it
[15:47:09] <mrcoolbp> coffee++
[15:47:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 340
[15:47:17] <crutchy> but you don't encode the encoding
[15:47:48] <crutchy> the twit link had "&#8212;"
[15:47:56] <stdhell> chromas: You are doing the right thing. Twitter is wrong.
[15:47:58] <crutchy> clearly a double-encode
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[15:48:53] <crutchy> maybe you just need a twit mode :-P
[15:49:10] <chromas> Oh then I misread
[15:49:22] * chromas blames android teehee
[15:49:42] <crutchy> you could probably double-decode with no probs
[15:51:08] <chromas> I was thinking of making a twatter scraper too but nobody uses that anymore do they
[15:51:30] <crutchy> could probably double-decode generally (for all websites)
[15:54:04] <crutchy> ~remind 6 min its midnight you idiot. go to bed
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[15:54:05] <exec> *** reminder set for crutchy: its midnight you idiot. go to bed
[15:54:34] <crutchy> that's a weird timeout error
[15:55:22] <crutchy> unless its manually typed :-P
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[15:57:48] <stdhell> If someone decides to double-decode it, I'll triple encode it...
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[15:59:51] <stdhell> 140 characters is NOT enough for me...
[15:59:57] <stdhell> https://twitter.com
[15:59:57] <monopoly> ^ 03Twitter / stderrdk: @twitter The guys on @SoylentNews ...: Connect with your friends — and other fascinating people. Get in-the-moment updates on the things that interest you. And watch events unfold, in real time, from...
[16:00:04] <exec> *** reminder for crutchy: its midnight you idiot. go to bed
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[16:01:28] <chromas> Yeah that's a useless summary anyway
[16:01:43] <chromas> It needs to grab the actual message
[16:01:55] <chromas> s/mes/mas/
[16:01:56] <SedBot> <chromas> It needs to grab the actual massage
[16:02:25] <mrcoolbp> rand: ping
[16:03:48] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: did you get any IRC-bot ideas?
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[16:04:00] <stdhell> chromas: Maybe look for <p class="js-tweet-text tweet-text"> ?
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[16:04:43] <chromas> I'll do that in a bit when I get back to the desktop
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[16:05:10] <mrcoolbp> ug, am I the only one having IRC issues?
[16:05:11] <stdhell> mrcoolbp: Wrong button?
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[16:05:19] <chromas> I think I already started on the scraper function for it
[16:05:36] <mrcoolbp> stdhell: no that's the second disconnect I had in the last five minutes
[16:05:37] <chromas> Oh no! Ping of death
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[16:05:55] <mrcoolbp> chromas: scraper function for what?
[16:06:08] <chromas> For twitter
[16:06:09] <mrcoolbp> rand: ping
[16:06:52] <mrcoolbp> chromas: ug I need to develop a social-media strategy for SN
[16:06:56] <mrcoolbp> !todo
[16:06:56] <Bender> todo for mrcoolbp: 1) get jowl bacon 2) contact Star Trek Reboot organizations 3) revisit staff meetings 4) recruit new users 5) Get ball rollin' on a site-redesign (crowd-sourced contest-y thing) 6) make sure someone else has privs on every system 7) add "or join us on IRC" to last question of FAQ" 8) social-media strategy 9) sci-fi weaponry to defend itself from - 1 more
[16:07:05] <chromas> There's a generic xml/html one and then specific ones for sites like sn and pd
[16:07:57] <chromas> Because of course, there's no standard for document body finding in html
[16:07:59] <stdhell> chromas: Can you use their API?
[16:09:32] <mrcoolbp> chromas: cool, is it similar to the RSS bot where it will just scrape and post in here?
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[16:10:47] <chromas> It only scrapes when someone pastes a link. if there's a way to automatically resolve a link to an api call then that could work
[16:11:46] <chromas> But I guess it could copy rss bot
[16:14:39] <mrcoolbp> oh I see
[16:14:48] <crutchy> hi mrcoolbp
[16:14:52] <mrcoolbp> that's cool
[16:14:57] <mrcoolbp> sup crutchy?
[16:15:01] <mrcoolbp> g'day
[16:16:36] <crutchy> mrcoolbp, check out from http://logs.sylnt.us
[16:16:38] <monopoly> ^ 03#Soylent | Logs for 2014-07-08: Connect with your friends &#8212; and other fascinating people. Get in-the-moment updat <br /> <a href=
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[16:18:00] <mrcoolbp> crutchy that would be awesome!
[16:18:18] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: we need to hold a board meeting, likely tonight, so get to work = )
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[16:18:49] * chromas notices links seem to be truncated in the log
[16:19:29] <stdhell> crutchy: And have those TPS reports ready. Did you get the memo?
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[16:21:38] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: I'm gonna go ahead and get you another copy of that memo
[16:22:44] <chromas> Bugs--
[16:22:44] <Bender> karma - bugs: -2
[16:26:10] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: I looked into a tool like the staff-communication you mentioned
[16:26:30] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: but the coolest one depened on JavaScript and was rejected outright
[16:26:40] <chromas> Ew
[16:27:03] <mrcoolbp> https://intertwinkles.org
[16:27:04] <monopoly> ^ 03About InterTwinkles
[16:27:23] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: ^
[16:27:31] <crutchy> i'll prolly just code proof of concept to begin with
[16:28:26] <crutchy> i started with a real simple reminder script tonight and i'm refining the nickserv whois auth
[16:28:41] * AndyTheAbsurd wonders what the fuck an intertwinkle is
[16:28:46] * AndyTheAbsurd clicks the link to find out
[16:29:01] <crutchy> ~defined intertwinkle
[16:29:20] <stdhell> AndyTheAbsurd is eaten by a grue.
[16:29:28] <crutchy> must be sleepy time for me
[16:29:36] <crutchy> night folks
[16:29:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite crutchy
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[16:30:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> no grues here, stdhell
[16:30:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> it's way to bright for them
[16:30:11] <mrcoolbp> g'night crutchy
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[16:35:29] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders
[16:35:57] <mrcoolbp> ~define grunging
[16:36:03] <exec> grunging: unable to find definition
[16:36:22] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: at intertwinkles?
[16:36:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should probably put something in to strip most of the characters below 0x31
[16:36:43] <chromas> That's what I did
[16:37:19] <stdhell> Below 0x31? You mean below 31 (dec), right?
[16:37:30] <chromas> But all. I guess sn could accept tabs though
[16:37:31] <stdhell> 0x20 (space) is below 0x31...
[16:37:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'already in for entities but it was never done for characters themselves
[16:38:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> stdhell, ya, my bad. and space/tab/couple others are why i said most
[16:38:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> newline, carriage return
[16:38:37] <chromas> We need nulls
[16:38:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> $burrito chromas
[16:38:49] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at chromas
[16:39:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas the only one i'm actually worried about.
[16:39:42] <chromas> For software that still uses null terminators
[16:39:56] <chromas> Like it's 1952
[16:40:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's a very good chance something in all the modules we use was written in c and does exactly that.
[16:40:58] <chromas> Ew
[16:41:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why Geeks do Better in Life than Cool Kids: Less Popular Teenagers Regularly Outperform their Peers - http://sylnt.us - is-it-the-same-for-nerds?
[16:41:17] <chromas> null_terminated_strings--
[16:41:17] <Bender> karma - null_terminated_strings: -1
[16:42:14] <stdhell> chromas: What do you suggest? Pascal strings?
[16:42:28] <chromas> Hell yeah
[16:42:37] <stdhell> Crazy kids...
[16:42:44] <chromas> Ansi strings are awesome
[16:45:51] * mrcoolbp might setup an Soylent Paypall account today
[16:46:17] <stdhell> mrcoolbp: That's a scam site...
[16:46:34] <stdhell> You're probably looking for Paypal.
[16:46:45] <mrcoolbp> er yeah, /me needs more coffee
[16:47:03] <mrcoolbp> stdell: thanks
[16:47:29] <mrcoolbp> stdhell: though paypal isn't much better = )
[16:47:56] <chromas> http://en.m.wikipedia.org
[16:47:57] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03 Comparison of Object Pascal and C - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia if(window.mw){ mw.config.set({"wgCanonicalNamespace":"","wgCanonicalSpecialPageName":false,"wgNamespaceNumber":0,"wgPageName":"Comparison_of_Object_Pascal_and_C","wgTitle":"Comparison of Object Pascal and C","wgCurRevisionId":602841417,"wgRevisionId":602841417,"wgArticleId":32170560,"wgIsArticle":true,"wgIsRedirect":false,"wgAction":"view","wgUserName":null,"wgUser
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[16:47:59] <stdhell> I know...
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[16:48:15] <mrcoolbp> holy crap dude
[16:48:28] <chromas> Wtf
[16:48:41] <stdhell> mrcoolbp: If it was lost in the flood: I know...
[16:48:54] <mrcoolbp> = )
[16:49:25] <chromas> Surprised it wasn't floodkicked
[16:49:53] <mrcoolbp> chromas: I'm not sure we have an auto-flood kicker
[16:50:21] <chromas> It will kick if messages come in too fast
[16:50:37] <chromas> Maybe there weren't enough
[16:51:05] <mrcoolbp> chromas: why did it do that/
[16:51:06] <mrcoolbp> ?
[16:51:23] <mrcoolbp> isn't it supposed to just put the first line or two?
[16:51:52] <chromas> Must be a bug in the mediawiki scraper. Perhaps I missed a call to the soil
[16:51:56] <chromas> Shit
[16:52:08] <chromas> Call to the clip function
[16:53:00] * chromas SSHs in by phone
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[17:00:01] <chromas> Now it's called twice but it'll do for now
[17:01:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://en.m.wikipedia.org
[17:01:09] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03 Comparison of Object Pascal and C - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia if(window.mw){ mw.config.set({"wgCanonicalNamespace":"","wgCanonicalSpecialPageName":false,"wgName...
[17:01:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, much better
[17:02:10] <stdhell> Could do without the javascript...
[17:06:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool, that's fixed.
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[17:09:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to have to do some manual merging later but it's all good
[17:09:27] <chromas> Yeah, right now it just strips tags. I guess it needs to check for javascript in the middle of text for no reason
[17:10:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/<script.*?\/script>//g;
[17:13:21] <stdhell> TheMightyBuzzard: <script src=path/to/script></script>
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[17:15:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> stdhell, fair nuff cept that wouldn't be a valid script tag
[17:16:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> can always put the missing < in there i spose
[17:16:08] <stdhell> Valid... Smalid...
[17:16:42] <stdhell> Doesn't that depend on the HTML version?
[17:17:56] <stdhell> E.g. width=42 used to be ok in an <img>, but now it has to be width="42".
[17:17:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that i'm aware of. script tags always need quotes as far as i know.
[17:18:03] <stdhell> (If that was what you meant)
[17:19:24] <stdhell> Maybe the best solution would be to use a module or whatever that understands HTML and let that strip stuff.
[17:19:32] <weeds> join #staff
[17:21:07] <stdhell> Maybe something as simpel as lynx -dump?
[17:21:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> stdhell, depends on how professional you wanna be about it.
[17:22:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> using a module in theory means the person who wrote it knows what they're doing and in practice means you can blame them. very professional, those.
[17:30:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure gets quiet here when crutchy goes to bed.
[17:31:44] <weeds> Hello, I'm wondering about messages I get in the system. Seems they have no content, just a heading.
[17:31:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russian Arrested in Guam on Array of U.S. Hacking Charges - http://sylnt.us - shouldn't-have-gone-there
[17:34:44] <stdhell> It's an array, so maybe he can get off-by-1.
[17:35:37] <chromas> well I don't know what's up
[17:35:49] <chromas> the code seems to work; I took out the extra clipText() and it still works
[17:36:25] <chromas> and now it don't
[17:37:19] <chromas> oh it's the mobile version
[17:37:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> weeds, where abouts?
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[18:23:56] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: I don't remember if I've asked if you've tried wine for gaming lately
[18:24:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i always try it before booting windows. depends on the game as to which gets used.
[18:25:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> but word is they're coming out with a linux client soon-ish anyway, so hopefully it won't be a problem much longer.
[18:26:17] <chromas> Be sure to get it from svn or git or whatever
[18:26:23] <chromas> Or use a nightly
[18:26:42] <chromas> Stable wine = useless
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[18:28:41] <stdhell> ... So this window is NOT my browser and I shouldn't use Ctrl-W.
[18:29:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, prolly not
[18:29:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i had to stop that anyway because some retards use both ^W and ^Q and they're far too close together for safety.
[18:29:51] <chromas> Better try again just to be sure. Gotta he scientific
[18:38:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> bored now. nap.
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[19:11:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Next Big Programming Language - http://sylnt.us - which-is-the-next-smallest?
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[19:39:34] <weeds> TheMightyBuzzard: Hey, sorry, went to lunch... When I log in I see that I have messages (over on the right side). Then I go to the messages and there are just headings.
[20:22:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lessons Warn Children Against Sexting - http://sylnt.us - educate-or-keep-them-ignorant?
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[22:03:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> Nerdfest!
[22:03:30] <Nerdfest> Yeah!
[22:03:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> Are you associated with the Orlando Nerdfest? (Which I submitted to, and was posted to, Soylent News a day or two ago.)
[22:04:26] <Nerdfest> I am not. I existed long before that ... I don't have the .com domain though :(
[22:04:58] <Nerdfest> There was also a Nerdfest recently in London that I got a lot of Twitter messages about.
[22:05:12] <Nerdfest> Very nice people.
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