#Soylent | Logs for 2014-07-06
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[00:11:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - High-Redshift Supernovae Discovered by Hyper Suprime-Cam - http://sylnt.us - in-The-Car-Pool-Lane
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[01:48:26] <crutchy> !stats
[01:48:26] <Bender> creating stats for channel #Soylent (Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970)
[01:48:43] <Bender> stat results for #Soylent: crutchy: 24465, xlefay: 11596, arti: 10270, unknown: 10085, MrBluze: 9593, NCommander: 7642, kobach: 7043, TheMightyBuzzard: 5522, michealpwalls: 5386, prospectacle: 5316, chromas: 5271, Subsentient: 3375, Bytram: 3021, Konomi: 3008, n1: 2951, Blackmoore: 2870, SpallsHurgenson: 2820, paulej72: 2781, hax0rz: 2675, Landon: 2632, mrcoolbp: 2487, mattie_p: 2448, Bender: 2411, Ethanol-fueled: 2308, stderr: 2258, janrinok: 2223,
[01:50:30] <crutchy> ~time dc
[01:50:31] <exec> [Google] 7:50pm Saturday (EDT) - Time in Washington, DC, USA
[01:52:25] <SpallsHurgenson> yay, I've made the !stats! I'm somebody at last!
[01:53:43] <chromas> crutchy's over 2x xlefay
[01:54:11] <crutchy> i'm still the top troll
[01:54:25] <crutchy> on the 'has no life' scoreboard :-P
[01:55:49] <crutchy> if xlefay wasn't awol for the past few weeks he would be up there too
[01:55:53] <crutchy> :-D
[01:56:58] <chromas> Quick; let's all get ahead of xlefay!
[01:57:13] <chromas> blah blah blah bleh webzone
[01:57:18] <kobach> lol
[01:57:27] <crutchy> where do i get my medal? i want my medal dammit!
[01:57:50] <crutchy> hey kobach :-)
[01:58:01] <kobach> hi
[01:58:21] <crutchy> finally a green nick. usually full of blues/purples/pinks
[01:58:32] <kobach> actually you're green on mine as well
[01:59:25] <juggler> balls hurgenson
[01:59:34] <juggler> crotchy
[01:59:46] <juggler> kobitch
[01:59:52] <crutchy> hahaha
[01:59:58] <crutchy> i forgot about that
[02:00:07] <crutchy> i can't do it here though
[02:00:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Thumbs It's Nose at the NSA, Hardening the Encryption Used for Both Outlook and OneDrive - http://sylnt.us - making-it-harder-to-see-your-emails
[02:00:14] <crutchy> !say blah
[02:00:30] <kobach> fuck it
[02:00:32] <kobach> getting pizza
[02:00:33] <crutchy> bleh can't remember how to do it
[02:00:35] <kobach> afk
[02:00:36] <kobach> lol
[02:00:37] <crutchy> ooh
[02:00:46] <crutchy> pizza++
[02:00:46] <Bender> karma - pizza: 9
[02:01:47] <SpallsHurgenson> I could go for a calzone
[02:02:30] <crutchy> ~define calzone
[02:02:34] <exec> [www.urbandictionary.com] 3calzone: A pizza turnover, very good.
[02:02:44] <crutchy> mkay
[02:02:53] <SpallsHurgenson> a pizza turned in on itself
[02:03:16] * SpallsHurgenson checks the wallet and sighs sadly
[02:06:03] <SpallsHurgenson> I wonder if they would be willing to barter? What do I have here that I'd want to give away?
[02:06:26] <crutchy> sexual favors?
[02:06:43] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, that's worth much more than a pizza :)
[02:10:11] <stderr> crutchy
[02:10:39] <crutchy> g'day stderr
[02:10:44] <stderr> Hi.
[02:10:51] <stderr> And bye again...
[02:11:02] <crutchy> bye :-)
[02:20:53] <chromas> Bender: s/'//
[02:23:16] <SpallsHurgenson> well, if I'm not eating pizza I need to figure out what else I can eat
[02:23:49] <chromas> Beer—it's liquid bread
[02:24:09] <arti> pretty much
[02:24:29] <SpallsHurgenson> I was thinking of MEAT
[02:24:33] <chromas> That means it counts as food
[02:24:54] <chromas> Dip a steak into it; that makes it a sandwich
[02:27:57] <SpallsHurgenson> there's two minor problems with that plan: no steak, and no beer
[02:31:09] <juggs> rice and beans it is then
[02:32:01] <SpallsHurgenson> huh, I do have b-b-b-bacon
[02:32:22] <juggs> then all is right with the world!
[02:32:28] <juggs> at least Spall's world
[02:32:45] <juggs> bacon++
[02:32:45] <Bender> karma - bacon: 237
[02:32:48] <juggs> oblig
[02:46:02] <SpallsHurgenson> <nom nom nom>
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[03:11:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Thumbs Its Nose at the NSA, Hardening the Encryption Used for Both Outlook and OneDrive - http://sylnt.us - making-it-harder-to-see-your-emails || Video-Game Vehicle Crashes Get Real - http://sylnt.us - ouch-that-hurts
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[03:21:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Don't Learn to Code; Learn to Think - http://sylnt.us - you-can-only-choose-one
[03:24:32] <juggs> Does Bender just grab random posts from the soylent feed? That "learn to code" is nearly 10 hours old while the MS item is only 1.5 hrs old :/
[03:25:22] <chromas> It may have been edited
[03:25:49] <chromas> Like the MS thumbs its nose: an apostrophe was removed
[03:29:10] <juggs> Ahh - that's neat. I just presumed it was feeding on the basic RSS feed. Hmm /me wonders if there is a 'last updated' field or somesuch in the RSS spec... goes to look.
[03:29:41] <chromas> It would be nifty if it had a flag or something to indicate it's an update
[03:35:41] <juggs> ech, it's too late here to go snuffling through my raw RSS feeds to see what's what. I'll just stick it on the todo list. For now is time for beer and moderation - that may not end well.
[03:36:34] <chromas> I thought that was your bot anyway?
[03:36:39] <chromas> s/?//
[03:36:39] <SedBot> <chromas> I thought that was your bot anyway
[03:36:48] <chromas> Or maybe that's Regugitator
[03:38:07] <SpallsHurgenson> hopefully ReguRgitator
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[03:43:21] <juggs> I've no idea who wrangles Bender, it's not mine. And yup, I keep mine safely quarantined in #rss-bot. Reminds me, I need to drop a few shekels on my digital ocean account - keep meaning to do it then promptly forget.
[03:48:45] * SpallsHurgenson googles digital ocean
[03:49:17] <juggs> cheap vps stuff
[03:50:55] <SpallsHurgenson> "crafted with love", apparently :)
[03:51:36] <SpallsHurgenson> I know that's what I always look for in a VPS :)
[03:51:39] <juggs> I just use it for scratching around on. You can spin up, suspend, destroy "droplets" at will and just get charged per hour of usage while they are on.
[03:54:00] <juggs> Yehh... the PR / marketing is all "wooooo cloudy is great"... but the product seems to work fine. I just spin up itty bitty Debian 32bit instances to run things like irc bots and bouncers etc. That kind of scratty stuff that I really cba to have running on anything at home.
[04:01:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Qualcomm Takes Down 100+ GitHub Repositories with DMCA Notice - http://sylnt.us - don't-like-it-but-it's-legal
[04:05:17] * SpallsHurgenson waits for the 100 comments about how it is too easy to make DMCA takedown notices without fear of penalty
[04:05:33] <SpallsHurgenson> (99 to go)
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[04:13:19] <juggs> the same discussion replicates itself every time the topic comes up. how easy it is / how appealing will end up in a courtroom of big media lawyers vs. average joe / how the court system takes a dim view of $_BIGCORP issuing mass take downs against little joes.... then with those points made it will spiral into a labyrinth of re-iteration, until someone manages to bring the constitution of the u.s.a. into the picture at which point the discussion he
[04:13:19] <juggs> ads that way at the speed of light. Then it gets Godwin'd. Oh and something about Obama will be in the mix too. Could use these ingredients for any forum slide really.
[04:13:44] <SpallsHurgenson> 98 :)
[04:13:53] <juggs> and so it begins
[04:15:24] <juggs> ooh I have Mod points.... where's the "it's all been said a thousand times" option?
[04:16:10] <chromas> It's completely different because this time, it's on SN
[04:16:35] <chromas> We need all the old arguments at least once
[04:20:28] <juggs> But with a DMCA discussion every point has to be made at least 15 times.
[04:20:42] <juggs> I think it's a rule or something :D
[04:21:06] <SpallsHurgenson> or at least a checklist
[04:21:52] <chromas> That's because it's easy to do it without penalty
[04:22:00] <juggs> I refuse to moderate any comments on it, I'm way to jaded and cynical on the matter
[04:22:07] <SpallsHurgenson> 97 :)
[04:22:14] <juggs> lol
[04:25:59] <juggs> if we could somehow bring the NSA into the discussion I suspect soylentnews would achieve the singularity or go super nova..... or umm, yeh, blah.
[04:27:00] <SpallsHurgenson> well, Qualcomm wants to hide its proprietary information... probably because they don't want their backdoors for the NSA revealed :)
[04:28:05] <juggs> I challenge you to work that into the discussion :D See where it leads :D
[04:30:21] <SpallsHurgenson> also something something patent-trolls and Microsoft :)
[04:31:21] <juggs> nooo! That combination would be worse than googling "Google"!! ye gads
[04:32:40] <SpallsHurgenson> soylent needs some memes of its very own
[04:32:54] <SpallsHurgenson> well, other than bacon
[04:50:38] <juggs> any suggestions?
[04:50:39] <SpallsHurgenson> or maybe a mascot
[04:50:45] <SpallsHurgenson> again, other than bacon
[04:55:13] <juggs> yeh, bacon doesn't really fit with the "SoylentNews is people" rider. I'm sure I suggested a stylised pic of people falling into a giant blender or grinder with newspapers issuing out of the effluent spout. For some unknown reason, I don't think it was ever seriously considered :D
[04:56:32] <paulej72> soylent bacon is made from the other other white meat
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[05:06:25] <juggs> I have no idea what that means, I don't think I want to know :/
[05:10:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon Crystal - if you Have to Ask, this Story is Not For you - http://sylnt.us - any-anime-fans?
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[06:09:17] <juggs> uch, wth does the paypal basket payment page have sodding flash objects on it??? What need does a page that asks for email / pass to login to your account have for flash tomfoolery?
[06:11:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Judge Koh Bars Apple From Calling Rival 'Patent Troll' At Trial - http://sylnt.us - but-only-in-court
[06:11:51] <juggs> Which dick of a page designer thought to themselves, "Here is a page where our users will be entering their authentication credentials, what can I do to make this fit for purpose? AHHH! Stick some flash on it that will help.".
[06:12:12] <juggs> Fuckwits.
[06:12:40] <juggs> And.... breathe. /rant off
[06:14:40] <SirFinkus> flash is rarely a good idea
[06:15:28] <SirFinkus> http://evangelcathedral.net is one example of when it was a good idea
[06:15:29] <monopoly> ^ 03Evangel Cathedral
[06:17:02] <chromas> jesus christ
[06:17:03] <chromas> oh wait
[06:17:06] <stderr> SirFinkus: From the URL alone I think you mean s/good/God/
[06:17:20] <stderr> And Flash is NEVER a good idea.
[06:18:07] <chromas> it's like animated gifs but bigger
[06:18:48] <SirFinkus> idk man, their site is pretty spiffy
[06:19:56] <juggs> Seriously right. And to stick a 3rd party plugin powered widget on an https "secured" page that expects auth details.... it's beyond stupid, it's beyond naive, that has to be outright malevolence. I can only think of some poor under paid page constructing code person, concerns blithely handwaved by dickish manglement, thinking "fine, you want flash? You got it buddy.".
[06:19:56] <chromas> Their scrollables only seem to work by clicking the little arrows
[06:20:21] <SirFinkus> good use of flash: spite
[06:20:22] <SirFinkus> see?
[06:20:54] <chromas> I'm sure they prayed on it before forging ahead
[06:22:54] <chromas> And the lord sayeth unto me, Yea, go thou unto the herd and do present them with Futu^^^^Mac^^^Adobe Flash
[06:23:01] * chromas forgot the Hs
[06:31:45] <juggs> lol I went to that url SirFinkus all I see is purpley background and couple of placeholders for flash nonsense things. Is it one of those sites with an auto-playing flash intro transition page circa 1998? Man I used to hate those on ISDN. All devotions to deity for script blockers and those that maintain them.
[06:32:05] <SirFinkus> of course
[06:32:09] <SirFinkus> it has sound too
[06:32:18] <juggs> oh praise be
[06:32:35] <SirFinkus> I'd recommend unblocking, it's pretty amazing
[06:32:50] <juggs> nah
[06:32:57] <SirFinkus> fair enough
[06:33:26] * juggs rearranges the tinfoil faraday cage
[06:33:38] <SirFinkus> it's a 45 second animation with dramatic music
[06:33:45] <SirFinkus> then the main flash site loads
[06:34:08] <SirFinkus> with contemporary christian rock, scrolling backgrounds, and a message from the pastor
[06:37:21] <juggs> as Christianity goes, I've more time for flavours that at least try to stay current than the crusty, dusty, preserve everything in aspic and never must thou allow interpretation flavours. There is wisdom in there, but wow is it hard picking the bones from the political soup.
[06:38:50] <juggs> AAND... with that comment that's me with SSS on my next boarding card to a US destination :D
[06:39:12] <SirFinkus> yeah, you're fucked
[06:39:35] * juggs rearranges the tinfoil faraday cage some more - doesn't seem to work, this IRC thing is still working.
[06:39:55] <SirFinkus> it looks like one of the scammier ones
[06:41:04] <SirFinkus> there's another gimicky ones
[06:41:06] <SirFinkus> one even
[06:41:21] <SirFinkus> k&k mime ministries
[06:42:07] <juggs> SirFinkus, well with that comment, use of TrueCrypt, full disk encryption, playing around with Tails and other sandboxing stuff, bits of traffic over TOR over many years... if I ever do fly to a US destination I'll be leaving any electronica at home.
[06:42:44] <SirFinkus> yeah, I've done the same
[06:42:49] <SirFinkus> pretty sure I'm on all the lists
[06:43:06] <juggs> they must be big lists
[06:43:38] <SirFinkus> my uncle actually got stopped in the UK, they thought he was smuggling shit to the IRA
[06:43:49] <SirFinkus> a long time ago
[06:43:57] <stderr> New game: Try to get on as many of those lists as possible. Must collect all of them...
[06:44:21] <SirFinkus> I talked with him a lot, and he told me stories about how he made mercury fulminate in college
[06:44:43] <SirFinkus> so I'm on the explosives list too
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[06:48:55] <stderr> ... and now he's on the list of quitters too.
[06:49:01] <juggs> I sure my high school education covered that kind of thing too... if I remembered any chemistry stuff from then.
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[06:51:04] <juggs> Or he just got gat stderr
[06:51:11] <juggs> <.<
[06:51:13] <juggs> >.>
[06:51:55] <stderr> YOLO...
[06:53:18] <juggs> And sometimes it makes sense to keep head down to win the next battle than charge out and get senselessly culled in the current one.
[06:53:54] <juggs> And in the spirit of heads' down....
[06:53:58] * juggs heads for the duvet
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[07:12:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Superconductor World Record Set - http://sylnt.us - equivalent-to-100-fridge-magnets-in-useless-units
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[08:21:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nerd Music Fest in Orlando - http://sylnt.us - nerd-culture
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[08:57:47] <crutchy> coffee++
[08:57:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 323
[09:22:27] <ar> coffee--
[09:22:27] <Bender> karma - coffee: 322
[09:22:32] <ar> :>
[09:37:33] <crutchy> :-P
[09:37:42] <crutchy> caffeine++
[09:37:42] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 12
[09:52:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Secret of Giraffes' Long, Strong Skinny Legs - http://sylnt.us - groovy-legs
[10:03:15] <arti> coffee++
[10:03:15] <Bender> karma - coffee: 323
[10:03:36] <crutchy> o.0
[10:03:49] <crutchy> hey arti
[10:03:53] <arti> greetings
[10:03:59] <crutchy> what's new?
[10:03:59] <arti> how was the pizza
[10:04:06] <crutchy> pizza?
[10:04:27] <arti> no, not today sir
[10:04:34] * arti is looking at card game code
[10:04:41] <crutchy> cool
[10:04:51] <crutchy> freecell?
[10:05:21] <arti> shuffle stuff, want to do spades
[10:05:53] <crutchy> mkay
[10:06:07] <crutchy> ~define spades
[10:06:08] <exec> [www.urbandictionary.com] 3spade: A derogatory term for an African American, more commonly used in the post-Civil War era than today.
[10:06:14] <arti> obscure
[10:06:18] <crutchy> oky doky
[10:06:35] <arti> http://www.spades-cardgame.com
[10:07:38] <crutchy> sorta like hearts
[10:08:38] <arti> yeah
[10:08:50] <arti> just a curiousity at the moment, what about you?
[10:09:36] <ar> coffee--
[10:09:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 322
[10:09:42] <arti> php++
[10:09:43] <Bender> karma - php: 1
[10:09:49] <arti> muhahaha virgin territory
[10:09:54] <arti> DAILY DOUBLE
[10:09:58] <ar> why php, of all things?
[10:10:02] <arti> because, you
[10:10:10] <arti> i know you love it so much you want it branded on you
[10:10:18] * arti readies the hot php poker
[10:10:24] <arti> hot like the servers it runs on
[10:10:43] <arti> in the future they'll use it for smelting
[10:14:46] <crutchy> does php use a lot of cpu compared to other languages?
[10:15:00] <arti> its interpreted
[10:15:14] <arti> caching helps
[10:17:24] <crutchy> which language do you use?
[10:17:36] <crutchy> is haskell interpreted?
[10:17:48] <arti> i can be, it can also be compiled
[10:17:55] <crutchy> ah
[10:18:06] * crutchy wonders if php can be compiled
[10:18:06] <arti> i use php for many things, but presently i'm looking at lua
[10:18:18] <arti> i belive so, isn't that what facebook invested in
[10:18:43] <crutchy> wikipedia is php, so i imagine it would need to be pretty efficient
[10:21:52] * arti agrees
[10:24:24] <crutchy> http://en.wikipedia.org
[10:24:25] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03HipHop for PHP: HipHop for PHP (shortened as HipHop) describes a series of PHP execution engines and improvements created by Facebook. The original motivation of HipHop was to save r...
[10:25:11] <ar> a few friends of mine are HippyVM developers
[10:25:27] * arti googles
[10:25:48] <ar> and last time i checked it performed better than hiphop and was more compatible
[10:25:57] <arti> spiffy
[10:26:00] <crutchy> cool
[10:26:17] <ar> and they know better than anyone else how badly php is "designed"
[10:26:29] <arti> imperfect beings etc.
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[10:29:58] <crutchy> php as a language is nice. the implementation might be imperfect
[10:30:28] <crutchy> sounds like there's a few different implementations
[10:32:11] <ar> is nice?
[10:32:39] * arti doesn't mind it
[10:33:14] <crutchy> some interesting comments about hippyvm https://news.ycombinator.com
[10:33:15] <monopoly> ^ 03HippyVM | Hacker News
[10:33:23] <arti> ah, good find
[10:33:24] * arti scopes
[10:34:25] <crutchy> apache's php module is pretty important. dunno what they gunna do there
[10:35:30] <ar> apache's php module is the second worst thing that ever happened
[10:35:40] <arti> what's the first?
[10:35:48] <ar> php itself, of course
[10:36:12] <crutchy> says the ror guy :-P
[10:36:17] <arti> hear me roar
[10:36:28] <ar> crutchy: who said i'm "the ror guy"?
[10:37:08] <ar> crutchy: and, at least, ruby guys don't try to integrate a programming language interpreter in the web server
[10:37:09] <arti> looks like a valid function definition
[10:37:20] <crutchy> you mentioned you like ror at some point. its in the logs somewhere
[10:38:08] <ar> crutchy: i mean, who would think that running application code in the same memory space where your, for example, ssl keys are is a good idea?
[10:38:35] <crutchy> mod_php spawns a separate process for each request, no?
[10:39:04] <ar> not really. that would make it slow like cgi
[10:44:49] <crutchy> this what you were talking about when you mentioned "caching" arti? http://www.ducea.com
[10:44:50] <monopoly> ^ 03PHP Accelerators - MDLog:/sysadmin: PHP Accelerators/Cachers will boost the performance of your PHP applications, by caching the compiled form of php scripts to avoid the overhead of hellip;
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[10:45:58] <crutchy> g'day Subsentient
[10:46:04] <arti> $burrito Subsentient
[10:46:04] <Subsentient> hi crutchy
[10:46:04] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Subsentient
[10:46:08] <Subsentient> $burrito arti
[10:46:09] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at arti
[10:46:18] <arti> behold, our greeting ritual is complete
[10:46:19] <crutchy> $burrito aqu4
[10:46:19] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at crutchy
[10:46:32] <crutchy> ¿
[10:47:01] <aqu4> You thought I was that dumb huh?
[10:48:31] <crutchy> $burrito crutchy
[10:48:31] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at crutchy
[10:48:55] <crutchy> incomplete reverse psychology implementation
[10:49:32] <crutchy> $burrito crutchy,aqu4
[10:49:32] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at crutchy,aqu4
[10:49:34] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[10:49:34] <monopoly> ^ 03Spaceballs - Oldest trick in the book - YouTube: Lone Starr gets fooled by Dark Helmet.
[10:49:48] <crutchy> hmm
[10:50:13] <crutchy> $burrito aqu4
[10:50:13] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at crutchy
[10:50:16] <crutchy> lol
[10:50:19] <crutchy> doh!
[10:55:27] <crutchy> $burrito aqu4
[10:55:28] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at aqu4
[10:55:32] <crutchy> :-D
[10:55:37] <Subsentient> crutchy: ... how
[10:55:53] <crutchy> color code at start
[10:56:02] <arti> crutchy++
[10:56:03] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 72
[10:56:13] <Subsentient> crutchy: ohh that is nasty
[10:56:14] <arti> muhahaha'
[10:56:38] <Subsentient> You are all gonna get blacklisted from the bot if you keep doing that lol
[10:57:04] <crutchy> it's testing :-)
[10:57:11] <arti> "you're not getting a christmas card this year!"
[10:57:39] <crutchy> now you can add an extra check to make aqu4 even more impenetrable
[10:57:52] <arti> should be listed on the product features page
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[12:53:49] <chromas> Hmm. Beta is marginal
[12:54:03] <arti> noted
[12:56:25] <chromas> I wish they'd do that here in the states with all our science and history channels
[13:31:29] <arti> how about a TV-MAV NC:SI
[13:31:43] <arti> make badges, like the PG
[13:38:00] <chromas> Nobody pays attention to those
[13:39:53] <chromas> What we need is an H2 channel where all the historical stuff can be pushed to, like MTV
[13:40:13] <chromas> Oh wait, that actually happened
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[14:17:38] <Popeidol> chromas: are you suggesting an irc channel where historical conversations are replayed in real time?
[14:17:51] <Popeidol> if the time stamps are accurate enough we could do that
[14:18:29] <chromas> I wasn't but I'll take credit for any idea that turns out to be good
[14:21:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russian Scientists Raising Funds to Rebuild Tesla Tower, Satisfy World Energy Hunger - http://sylnt.us - give-us-your-money
[14:24:51] <chromas> From the duplicates-hats-and-magicians dept
[15:21:49] <crutchy> coffee++
[15:21:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 323
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[17:46:23] * Subsentient farts
[17:52:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nanofabricated Chromium Allows Single Molecule Studies of Signalling Proteins - http://sylnt.us - not-just-a-browser
[17:59:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> cykros: when you get annoyed with him, I suggest putting kusuriya on /ignore for at least 15 minutes. It's the only way I can remain civil with him; he'll argue shit just to get a rise out of you.
[18:03:10] <cykros> lol, didn't see you there
[18:03:30] <cykros> i've debated with kusuriya plenty before...my method with everyone is to keep 12 or so irc channels open at a time
[18:03:38] <cykros> when someone gets annoying, i alt+# away
[18:03:56] <cykros> /ignore just gets bothersome because you see messages to/about the person on ignore.
[18:04:01] <cykros> and lose context.
[18:04:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> #rantradio is my most-active channel (I'm on 5, across four different servers)
[18:04:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, that's why I don't /ignore anyone permanently
[18:05:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> but irssi has a built-in /ignore timer so that you can take some time to calm down and not have to remember to /unignore someone.
[18:05:44] <cykros> you familiar with #galaxy15radio? it spun off from rant around the time newsreal went bellyup
[18:06:26] <cykros> the familiar names from rant i know on there are morpse (skytower), yugosaki, and sardonyx
[18:06:44] <cykros> they do a weekly show called Pure Decking over at www.galaxy15radio.com
[18:07:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> if it's not SKTFM and Cimmerian, I really can't be bothered
[18:07:14] <cykros> got me my weekly podcast fix when newsreal keeled over. for a little while yugosaki and someone else were doing their own newsreal, but i guess sean waffled a little on being okay with them doing it, and they stopped.
[18:07:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> too many other podcasts to listen to already
[18:07:25] <cykros> heh, fair enough
[18:08:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> which reminds me, I haven't seen SciAm's 60 Second Science come through in quite a while; I wonder if they killed it?
[18:08:39] <cykros> i imagine you won't be bothered for awhile in that case...the army of flying monkeys fell flat on its face with sean's most recent challenge, which, if they'd succeeded, would have come with 500 new episodes of newsreal, as well as more afternow. but to be fair, it was a bit of a reach and a half from the get go
[18:09:21] <cykros> i donated, though without delusions about newsreal coming back. just curious to see the documentary cimm's been working on
[18:15:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> hrm, mashpodder isn't seeing the SciAm podcasts for some reason. Possibly because they all have "podcast.mp3" as the file name.
[18:15:28] <cykros> heh
[18:15:37] <cykros> different directories for each episode instead of different filenames?
[18:16:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> http://www.scientificamerican.com
[18:16:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> http://www.scientificamerican.com
[18:16:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> http://www.scientificamerican.com
[18:16:17] <cykros> oh god
[18:16:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...etc.
[18:16:52] <cykros> passing queries to a .mp3 file...that's a new one by me
[18:17:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> yup, deleted "podcast.mp3" from podcast.log and it pulled the latest five...but saved them all as "podcast.mp3".
[18:17:39] <cykros> it's gotta be some kind of script...php would be most likely i suppose
[18:17:48] <cykros> that's gross though.
[18:18:31] <cykros> idk why you'd set that system up unless you were TRYING to break things
[18:18:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah...now I gotta see if I can tweak mashpodder.sh to fix it.
[18:19:00] <cykros> heh, see if you can have it check by md5's instead of filename
[18:19:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> I don't like messing with mashpodder since I don't know enough about bash scripting to do anything other than shoot myself in the foot.
[18:19:29] <cykros> though i guess you'd need to download first in that case to check
[18:19:31] <cykros> which wouldn't really work
[18:20:09] <cykros> eh, bash scripts are one of the few areas i feel....hesistant, yet comfortable enough to mess with
[18:20:25] <cykros> kind of have to on slackware anyway...i have shot myself in the foot editing slackbuild scripts before
[18:20:51] <cykros> though the biggest instance which took me days to figure out was because there was a line of sed in there that i in no way expected even might be there that was messing with the original source files
[18:21:25] <cykros> (i was editing the slackbuild for aMule to make one for iMule, the i2p compatible fork of it)
[18:21:37] <cykros> the sed was necessary for the amule source, not the iMule source
[18:21:59] <cykros> once i found it it of course stood out like a purple light on a stoplight
[18:24:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> I wonder if I can get away with just removing this:
[18:24:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> # Remove question marks at end
[18:24:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> FILENAME=$(echo $FILENAME | sed -e 's/?.*$//')
[18:27:06] * AndyTheAbsurd makes that change, runs it again.
[18:28:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...nope. Dammit.
[19:31:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Etiquette Gets Reboot for Digital Age - http://sylnt.us - good-manners-are-timeless
[19:42:47] <cykros> man. o
[19:43:12] <cykros> i'm watching cbtnuggets to study for a CCENT, and the guy's second video on subnetting (subnetting based on host requirements) he just taught wrong.
[19:43:35] <cykros> his method will get the number of addresses per network, not number of hosts (ie, it doesn't account for host and broadcast)
[19:43:49] <cykros> i can't believe he didn't notice throughout the whole 20-25 minute video that he was neglecting that
[19:44:01] <cykros> and i want to know how many other people yelled at the screen throughout the whole thing like i did.
[19:44:41] <cykros> at least it doesn't take too much imagination to see exactly why he was doing it wrong, or how to fix it. but sheesh.
[19:44:57] * cykros applies for his job
[19:45:30] <cykros> heh, i think i have a few more certs to get before being remotely qualified there...maybe a teaching degree too
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[20:17:05] <hka> Anyone here with experience in measuring power amplifiers? Linearity, distortion and that kind of things
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[20:23:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ha! Libertarians FTW. http://reason.com
[20:23:10] <monopoly> ^ 03Are Conservatives Dumber Than Liberals? - Reason.com: It depends on how you define "conservative." The research shows classical liberals/libertarians are smartest of all.
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[20:23:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> Suck it, hippies!
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[21:00:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Crytek UK Staff Not Getting Paid, Leave Studio En Masse - http://sylnt.us - interns-required-for-early-access-development
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[21:04:21] <chromas> It sounds like they're...having a crysis
[21:04:46] <Bytram> nod nod
[21:04:48] <chromas> Hmm...no sunglasses
[21:07:37] <chromas> Where's David Caruso and some wet asphalt when I need it?
[21:09:32] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: ping?
[21:09:49] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Looks like someone borked UTF-8 on dev again.
[21:12:45] <Bytram> see: http://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:12:46] <monopoly> ^ 04SN (dev) comment by martyb (76): Reply to This
[21:13:51] <Bytram> Looks to me that decimal character entities and hex character entities are getting stripped :(
[21:14:15] <Bytram> OTOH, UTF-8 and named character entities seemed okay on that test
[21:14:31] <Bytram> brb
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[22:31:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, NC is doing his thing on dev right now using his branch.
[22:31:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pope Francis: Exploiting Nature 'Sin' of Our Time - http://sylnt.us - universal-language-of-expoitation
[22:32:11] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nod nod. I suspected, but just wanted to make sure. I'm learning!
[22:35:21] <Bytram> brb time for food
[22:36:44] <Bytram> http://www.darpa.mil
[22:36:45] <monopoly> ^ 03 2014/06/05 DARPA Z-Man Program Demonstrates Human Climbing Like Geckos
[22:38:39] <chromas> from the grammar-nazis-will-expoit-misplelings dept
[22:54:45] <Bytram> well! didn't even know there WAS such a site! http://phys.org
[22:54:46] <monopoly> ^ 03The vivid realism of 3D functions, right there on your browser: A classic online mathematical reference offered by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) now features a better way for users to view its most comp...
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[23:05:36] <Bytram> mattie_p: G'Day!
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[23:12:05] <mattie_p> Bytram, Hey!
[23:12:30] <Bytram> happy 4th to you! (a little late, but :)
[23:12:48] <mattie_p> Thanks, I had finished traveling by then, but not yet online
[23:12:56] <mattie_p> happy 4th to you as well
[23:13:26] <Bytram> you've moved? yay!
[23:13:46] <mattie_p> yup, we're in NY now
[23:14:03] <Bytram> how was the trip? any bad weather/traffic/etc?
[23:14:21] <mattie_p> trip was long, took us 4 days to drive it
[23:14:35] <mattie_p> hardly any weather to speak of, some decent food, and lots of corn fields
[23:14:44] <Bytram> that's long allright; drove a truck?
[23:15:02] <mattie_p> drove a nissan pathfinder, towing our second car
[23:15:14] <Bytram> ahh. not so bad, then.
[23:15:35] <Bytram> and your stuff? was that shipped separately?
[23:15:45] <mattie_p> no, it really wasn't so bad. our stuff is in PODS containers
[23:15:51] <mattie_p> we'll be calling for it separately
[23:15:55] <Bytram> oh, nice!
[23:16:36] <Bytram> one move I did, I rented the biggest truck I could get so packing/unpacking would not be slowed by trying to pack thiings in...
[23:16:44] <Bytram> was 26-foot IIRC
[23:17:09] <Bytram> would come up to an intersection and everyone *else* gave me the right of way =)
[23:17:20] <mattie_p> yeah, I can imagine
[23:17:46] <mattie_p> thats probably the largest size you can get without a special license, I imagine
[23:17:48] <Bytram> quite a change from driving my car around boston -- a no-options ford escort!
[23:17:53] <Bytram> nod nod
[23:18:47] <mattie_p> anyway, I'll be getting back in the swing of things here soon as we get settled in
[23:19:23] <Bytram> well, I'll not keep you as I'm sure you're gettin situated at the new place; give ur kids a hug for me, and have FUN getting used to the new location!
[23:19:43] <Bytram> oh, and one last thing...
[23:19:52] <Bytram> ARE WE THERE YET???????????
[23:20:10] <mattie_p> actually, I don't think they asked that one...
[23:20:23] <mattie_p> the question was "when can we eat?"
[23:20:33] <Bytram> hmmmmm, "I gotta PEE"!!!!
[23:20:59] <Bytram> food, yup that's important!
[23:21:29] <mattie_p> we took stops about every 60-90 minutes to stretch legs, pee, and check the trailer, so no need for that one either
[23:22:07] <Bytram> Great Idea!!!!!! let's the built-up tension get a release. I'l have to remember that one!
[23:22:32] <mattie_p> a lot of the rest stops had little playgrounds, we let them burn energy for a few minutes on the swings or whatever
[23:22:46] <Bytram> nod nod
[23:22:51] <Bytram> how old are they?
[23:23:07] <mattie_p> 10 and 12
[23:23:46] <Bytram> old enough they'll remember the good parts of the trip.
[23:24:46] * Bytram has many fond memories of a trip to florida when I was that age; 2+day drive each way. In a car with no A/C. All happy memries, now. =)
[23:25:42] <Bytram> afk back in 5 min or so
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