#Soylent | Logs for 2014-06-30
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[00:21:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - North Korea will not Tolerate Movie that Depicts an Assassination Attempt on their Leader - http://sylnt.us - don't-give-anyone-any-ideas
[01:17:02] <chromas> slash sure likes outputting extra spaces and newlines
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[03:48:42] <SpallsHurgenson> this evening seems endless... and not in the good way
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[04:09:35] * SpallsHurgenson is almost tempted to turn on the TV
[04:10:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> you ain't just whistling dixie
[04:13:04] <SpallsHurgenson> no, that is true. I am also whistling the Allegro vivace of Beethoven's Symphony No. 4 in B flat major
[04:13:17] <arti> noice
[04:17:28] * SpallsHurgenson switches to the 5th Symphony Allegro con brio (the da-da-da-DUH part that everyone knows :)
[04:32:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Technological Attenuation - http://sylnt.us - caffeine-injections-required
[04:45:35] <SpallsHurgenson> thank god the gog.com summer sale is over
[04:49:41] <chromas> fingers worn out from clicking?
[04:50:06] <SpallsHurgenson> bank account emptied from spending :)
[05:05:52] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[05:05:53] <monopoly> └ 03How to clean your laptop fan (Clean The Fan) - YouTube: &'Clean the fan' Donations: http://is.gd (thanks ^^) song now available on itunes!!!: http://itunes.apple.com
[05:16:58] <SpallsHurgenson> shit, now that song is stuck in my head
[05:20:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> serves you right for trying to get it stuck in my head
[05:20:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> thankfully all the porn crowded it out
[05:22:25] <SpallsHurgenson> sadly, there is no pornography lodged in my brain (which is why I must refresh it on a daily basis :)
[05:24:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i keep an emergency store in case of EMP
[05:26:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> sleep time now. it's back to slash in about 8 hours.
[05:26:26] <chromas> in porn, other things get stuck in the head
[05:26:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> use more lube
[05:26:43] <chromas> or
[05:26:54] <chromas> in porn, head get stuck in you! What a cuntry!
[05:27:17] <SpallsHurgenson> that pun deserves an exasperated groan
[05:27:20] <SpallsHurgenson> <groan>
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[07:20:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Most Exciting Thing at Google I/O - a Piece of Cardboard - http://sylnt.us - more-fun-with-the-box-it-came-in
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[08:02:58] <Mattiep> well, tomorrow is the big move
[09:13:41] <arti> going to relocate to the living room?
[09:31:19] <Popeidol> don't do it, there's no fridge in the living room
[09:31:27] <Popeidol> learn from our mistakes
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[10:00:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bing Video Search gets less Anti-Piracy Attention than Google's Regular Search - http://sylnt.us - small-one-gets-away-with-everything
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[11:19:22] <crutchy_> coffee++
[11:19:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 308
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[12:01:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New NASA Images Highlight U.S. Air Quality Improvement - http://sylnt.us - now-you-can-inhale
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[12:10:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:10:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 309
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[12:30:21] * TheMightyBuzzard gets back to beating unicode into shape
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[13:05:40] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: s/code/brow/
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[14:01:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How HP Recycles Printer Cartridges - http://sylnt.us - The-Latinum-is-pressed-in-worthless-Gold
[14:06:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> there we go. got me a database with working comments now.
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[14:41:40] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: when I try to reply to a comment on dev with unicode in the comment I am replying to the content of the new comment get mangled.
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[14:44:12] <Marneus68> Hey there !
[14:45:18] <Marneus68> I'm seeking a little help, I stumbled upon something that could potentially make an interesting story, the thing it, I don't understand everything that it going so I might miss the issue entirely.
[14:45:28] <Marneus68> Take a look at that : https://www.indiegogo.com
[14:45:29] <monopoly> └ 03Free the Browser | Indiegogo: It seems Microsoft liked our web browser so much they got a patent on it. Let's make sure they cannot license this as part of their billion dollar portfolio!
[14:46:15] <Marneus68> That looks like something to make an interesting story, but it souds a bit fishy and I don't understand everything about the US patent system
[14:46:32] <Marneus68> maybe someone can look at it for a bit too
[14:50:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, yeah i noticed a lot of yours were looking rather funky
[14:51:57] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[14:54:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, chasing down entities today. i'll see what's up with it either after or tomorrow.
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[15:30:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Android Users More Stingy than iOS Users - http://sylnt.us - maybe-just-more-discerning
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[15:47:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ugh, large part of the numeric entities issue was me putting a 0 where a 1 went.
[15:54:49] <Blackmoore> mornin
[15:54:54] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[15:54:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 310
[15:58:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin Blackmoore
[15:58:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[15:58:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 311
[15:59:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha! found a bug in slashcode that i didn't put there!
[16:11:46] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: there are a lot of thoes
[16:12:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, was a bad regex in a check that was already being run elsewhere, so i just nuked it.
[16:13:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, about to push/pull to dev again unless someone is in the big middle of something
[16:14:36] <paulej72> NCommander: is working on something but not activly. I think he is working from his directory, so you can receploy from your dir and all should be fine.
[16:15:48] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I was able to rewrite the DBIx::Password file to use mysql_enable_utf8 in the attributes var and it seemed to work correctly.
[16:15:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
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[16:17:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, noticed that. was wondering if that's why comments get hosed but just double checked it and it wasn't.
[16:18:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, either way, they appear to not eat each other on mine so either i fixed a bug i didn't even notice i was fixing or there exists some other difference.
[16:19:56] <paulej72> what browser os combo are you using TheMightyBuzzard
[16:20:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> firefox/linux
[16:20:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> arch if you want the distro
[16:20:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> but the vm is just the vm NC made
[16:24:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> redeploying
[16:27:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> and once more for a typo. yeesh.
[16:30:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, okay, all the top level comments unbroke after that redeploy and rebroke as soon as i posted a reply. that is going to be a fun bug.
[16:34:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ooooh, caching...
[16:34:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause they're good in the db
[16:35:45] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: it seems like the top level commets are OK in the db, but replies to unicode get mangled in the db.
[16:36:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, i didn't see any mangled except 25846
[16:36:35] <paulej72> I think the issue is with how the browser sends the form data when it sees that the page has unicode already.
[16:37:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i'm thinking it's possibly a caching issue since they all show good in the comment_text table to me except 25846
[16:37:58] <paulej72> 25850 is mangled in the db. It was a line from the poem in 25849.
[16:38:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah, yeah, didn't see that
[16:39:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> bouncing the server with memcached toggled just for kicks
[16:39:10] <paulej72> 25854 was a test where i changed the template not to show the previous comment when I replied. (no unicode on page)
[16:41:15] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: we now have unicode commens and entity comments on the page at the same time. I wonder if that is causing some issue.
[16:41:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Backlash Against Facebook Psychology Experiment - http://sylnt.us - angry-monkeys
[16:42:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, dunno but it stopped breaking them when i toggled memcached off and bumped apache
[16:42:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> only those two comments broken in the db are broken now
[16:44:06] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head and ponders
[16:44:17] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: the comment subject is not being auto filled in when you do a reply.
[16:45:00] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: replies to unicode will still generate bad uicode
[16:45:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, Yeah, I broke that testing something today and forgot to reenable it. easy fix.
[16:47:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, you sure? i'm not seeing any breakage to them and i just replied to two or three.
[16:48:10] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: are you submitting unicode?
[16:48:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep
[16:48:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> and plain text on another
[16:48:53] <paulej72> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[16:50:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> so how did yours break and mine right below it post peachy?
[16:50:11] * TheMightyBuzzard grumbles
[16:50:26] <paulej72> I am running on Mac OS 10.9. It fails for me on FF, Safari, Chrome
[16:50:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> paste me the text you were trying to post and let me try it
[16:50:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> or a line at least
[16:50:55] <paulej72> На берегу пустынных волн
[16:50:56] <paulej72> Стоял он, дум великих полн,
[16:50:57] <paulej72> И вдаль глядел. Пред ним широко
[16:52:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah, ok. found the breakage
[16:52:59] <Blackmoore> any editors around?
[16:53:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> works fine if you hit submit, not if you hit preview.
[16:53:33] <paulej72> Blackmoore: go to #editorial
[16:55:19] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I was tracing the edit code to see what the issue was and I could not figure it out. Need to see what is different between edit and save
[16:55:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird. try the same thing on the vm and i get entities back.
[16:58:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, so we have two issues minimum here. 1) preview garbles the text 2) memcached garbles previous comments but only in their cached state.
[16:59:13] <Blackmoore> thanks paulej72
[16:59:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, you have anything that could resemble memcached expertise in a bad light?
[17:00:56] <janrinok> You called for an ed?
[17:01:57] * janrinok notes - they didn't ask for a competent or even 'good' ed.....
[17:02:33] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: https://github.com is all I can say
[17:02:34] <monopoly> └ 03slashcode/README.utf8 at master · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub: The slashcode repository for SoylentNews. The initial code base was uploaded as it appeared on Sourceforge as of the last commit in September 2009
[17:03:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, looks like a fine place to start. gracias.
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[17:15:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, that's for a different version of memcached
[17:19:01] <TK> Can we get a +1 sarcastic mod to counteract Poe's law?
[17:19:23] <TK> So you can mod someone up if you think they're being sarcastic?
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[17:27:59] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: should we try using Cache::Memcached::Fast
[17:28:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to try the patch first. got things put where I THINK they should go.
[17:28:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> if not, yes we probably should
[17:29:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> bumping and redeploying with comment subject autofill unbroken i think
[17:30:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, no joy on the patch unless i made a foolish typo
[17:30:34] <paulej72> lunch time for me
[17:31:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Viable Alternatives to Facebook and Twitter? - http://sylnt.us - semaphore-and-smoke-signals
[17:38:54] <NCommander> morning world
[17:39:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> morning, NC
[17:39:04] <NCommander> I love Alaska
[17:39:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> glad to hear it. just don't get eaten by a polar bear.
[17:40:14] <NCommander> not planning on it
[17:40:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh hey, turns out Cache::Memcached doesn't support utf8 and has no plans to. looking at migrating to Cache::Memcached::Fast if the job isn't completely evil.
[17:42:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... appears to have exactly the same syntax
[17:51:36] <Blackmoore> mornin NCommander
[18:01:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> blah, debug isn't compatible between them.
[18:09:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> and cache-memcached-fast does in fact like unicode and is working on dev. I do need to go through and strip out all debug functionality from it though. for now we just don't change memcached_debug in vars off of the 0 it was already set to.
[18:10:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> unfortunately leaves us with working unicode comments but no stats
[18:11:06] * TheMightyBuzzard grumbles
[18:14:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess we could use both and only use cache-memcached for reading stats
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[18:38:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> bingo. everything caching properly and stats working. had to use both cache-memcached-fast and cache-memcached but worth it.
[18:39:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> still more changes to do because there are a lot of places that are trying to put out debug info using non-existent calls but that's fixable
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[18:51:21] * NCommander is properly online now
[18:51:23] <NCommander> yay
[18:54:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> woohoo
[19:01:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Kids Recognising Logos of Unhealthy Food More Likely to be Overweight - http://sylnt.us - you-are-what-you-eat
[19:02:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, bug narrowed down. only garbles when hitting preview while replying to a comment containing unicode with more unicode.
[19:05:24] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, your dedication on this is truly impressive :-)
[19:05:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think it's verging on obsession but hey, it keeps me busy.
[19:06:13] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, mind if I PM you?
[19:06:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure sure
[19:06:24] <Landon> kids that don't recognize logos of unhealthy foods likely to be living off the grid
[19:07:19] <NCommander> Landon, I dunno, there are McDonalds in Alaska
[19:09:13] <Landon> haha, I'm talking about kentucky backwoods off the grid
[19:09:30] <Landon> where Paw's Moonshine is the biggest brand
[19:10:27] <NCommander> Landon, well, there's Alaska's north slope
[19:10:33] * NCommander just moved to Anchorage
[19:12:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> what, like permanent?
[19:14:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ok, my brain just fell out of my ear. i think it's a hint that that's enough slash for today.
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[19:48:04] <Blackmoore> wierd.
[20:00:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> Blackmoore, whazzat?
[20:00:59] <Blackmoore> stupid WebIRC locked up.
[20:01:08] <Blackmoore> 'hasnt done that before
[20:01:39] <Blackmoore> NCommander: did you have to change phone providers, or is coverage pretty good there?
[20:04:07] <NCommander> Blackmoore, I'll have to
[20:04:14] <NCommander> Blackmoore, the only two cell providers in ALaska at AT&T and GCI
[20:04:25] <NCommander> T-Mobile roams for free, but you're limited on how long you can do that
[20:05:01] <Blackmoore> ah i too have t-mobile. I cant get signal in my own house :P
[20:06:44] <Blackmoore> at&t has pretty damn good coverage. but they typically want a wad of cash as a down payment
[20:11:23] <NCommander> Blackmoore, I'd just go prepaid w/ them again
[20:11:29] <NCommander> $40 or $60 USD is no problem
[20:11:39] <NCommander> My phone is fully compatiable w/ both T-Mobile/AT&T and unlocked
[20:15:18] <NCommander> Wow
[20:15:29] <NCommander> THere's a BUS for sale for $3000 USD O_o;
[20:17:58] <Blackmoore> huh.. at&t wanted a $400 deposit from me. I guess I'm just a lousy customer to them
[20:18:35] <Blackmoore> SoylentBus?
[20:27:46] <paulej72> NCommander: you could live in a bus with some minor modifications :)
[20:28:56] * NCommander whacks paulej72
[20:29:00] <NCommander> Blackmoore, I never buy a phone from the carrier
[20:30:01] <NCommander> https://anchorage.craigslist.org - O_O!
[20:30:01] * paulej72 dons his whack-proof armor for next time :)
[20:30:03] <monopoly> └ 031997 H1 Hummer : 1997 Hummer Limo to much to list email for details. Limo is at Ramada Hotel parking lot in Anchorage Hummer, muscle car, classic
[20:30:04] <NCommander> Seriously
[20:30:07] <NCommander> A strench hummer
[20:30:08] <NCommander> bleh
[20:31:05] <arti> that says classy best
[20:31:16] <arti> bonus points if you cruise around europe in it
[20:31:21] <paulej72> wrong: all limos should be black or white, not maroon
[20:34:55] <NCommander> https://anchorage.craigslist.org - I might have found my pickup
[20:34:55] <monopoly> └ 032004 Ford Ranger: 2004 Ford Ranger in great condition. 4.0 L engine. This truck is REALLY powerful for its size. It has four opening doors, manual transmission, cruise control, power e...
[20:35:26] <Blackmoore> limo is a waste if it doesnt have a hot tub anyways
[20:35:58] <paulej72> well 4 opening doors are better than 2 opening and 2 broken dorrs
[20:37:15] <paulej72> does the cheap ass non-matichng cap come with the truck?
[20:37:54] <paulej72> Does look like it is good condition for a 10 year old truck
[20:38:21] <paulej72> unless they pshoped it
[20:40:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft to NHS: We Want your Money You can Cough in June or Cough Harder Later - http://sylnt.us - arm-twisting
[20:40:44] <paulej72> NCommander: here is a good Alaska car : http://anchorage.craigslist.org
[20:40:45] <monopoly> └ 031986 Corvette $8500: 1986 Corvette. 79,000 miles. $8,000 OBO. Contact Dave.
[20:42:10] <NCommander> paulej72, thanks :-)
[20:42:14] * NCommander is going to run to the store
[20:42:16] <NCommander> Bleh
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[21:51:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IEFT Proposes The Definition of Pervasive Monitoring As An attack - http://sylnt.us - watching-the-watchers
[22:01:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IEFT Proposes The Definition of Pervasive Monitoring As An Attack - http://sylnt.us - watching-the-watchers
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[22:51:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IETF Proposes The Definition of Pervasive Monitoring As An Attack - http://sylnt.us - watching-the-watchers
[22:58:11] <NCommander> Somene bene editing
[22:58:15] * NCommander might have found a place
[22:58:16] <NCommander> yay
[23:00:31] <LaminatorX> Congratulations.
[23:00:51] <LaminatorX> Still in NH, or did you switch to Alaska?
[23:02:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Supreme Court: Can't Force Employers to Cover Contraception - http://sylnt.us - corporate-personas-are-better-than-people
[23:06:32] <kobach> AK > NH
[23:09:48] <Blackmoore> why they hell does the site bitch about me relying to a journal post that's less than a minute after i repond to an article? (rolls eyes)
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