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[00:01:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Hospitals Begin Data-Mining Patients - http://sylnt.us - someone-has-to-say-no
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[00:04:30] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v NCommander] by juggler
[00:04:35] <NCommander> !quote
[00:04:35] <Bender> quote <ID/search string>
[00:04:38] <NCommander> !quote NCommander
[00:04:38] <Bender> Quote 1 - <NCommander> DarkMorph, because whenever I have to touch hashref's I want to stab my eyes out
[00:04:42] <Bender> Also in quotes: 7, 53, 82, 83, 86, 87, 88, 97, 106, 111, 114, 138, 147, 153, 156, 157, 158, 169, 171
[00:08:34] <NCommander> !quote 171
[00:08:34] <Bender> Quote 171 - <NCommander> Obviously I haven't been swearing enough
[00:08:39] <NCommander> Yeup
[00:08:42] <NCommander> !quote 169
[00:08:42] <Bender> Quote 169 - <NCommander> never save a killer poke
[00:08:47] <NCommander> !quote 158
[00:08:47] <Bender> Quote 158 - <NCommander> I'm dropped my brain droppings
[00:08:53] <NCommander> !quote 157
[00:08:53] <Bender> Quote 157 - <crutchy> NCommander: sounds like the motto of a suicide cult
[00:08:58] <NCommander> !quote 156
[00:08:58] <Bender> Quote 156 - <NCommander> Handle down the handle of NCommander to whoever comes next
[00:09:09] <NCommander> I ... really want to know what the context of 157 was
[00:09:19] <NCommander> !quote 147
[00:09:19] <Bender> Quote 147 - <NCommander> I need a beer IV right now
[00:09:24] <NCommander> beer_iv++
[00:09:24] <Bender> karma - beer_iv: 1
[00:09:31] <NCommander> !quote 111
[00:09:31] <Bender> Quote 111 - <chromas> I heard CentOS thrown around a lot. I believe it was NCommander's favorite
[00:09:39] <NCommander> !quote 114
[00:09:39] <Bender> Quote 114 - <NCommander> xlefay, eh, he's british. He won't recognize sexy if it danced naked in front of him
[00:10:15] <NCommander> !quote 106
[00:10:15] <Bender> Quote 106 - <NCommander> Fuck
[00:10:21] <NCommander> !quote 97
[00:10:21] <Bender> Quote 97 - <michealpwalls> Example: Say NCommander comes to xlefay's home with a large, heavy Rubber Hose. NCommander proceeds to beat xlefay with the large, Rubber Hose until xlefay logs into his/her account for NCommander to abuse. Stop that, Kerberos!
[00:10:30] <NCommander> !quote 7
[00:10:30] <Bender> Quote 7 - <NCommander> Dopefish, I handed him a 3k page novel, then told him that was short for one of my posts
[00:10:59] <NCommander> !quote 53
[00:10:59] <Bender> Quote 53 - <NCommander> I thought it was a squished oreo
[00:11:03] <NCommander> ...
[00:11:06] <NCommander> Past me: WTF?
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[00:24:09] <Blackmoore> eah sorry NCommander i was working
[00:25:18] <Blackmoore> yeah - we've all said somethin..
[00:25:54] <Blackmoore> !quote
[00:26:03] <Blackmoore> :(
[00:45:45] <chromas> !quote -1
[00:45:45] <Bender> Quote -1 - <prospectacle> anyway I should sleep, it's almost time to get up.
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[00:47:17] <NCommander> !quote Blackmoore
[00:47:17] <Bender> Quote 78 - <Blackmoore> mm.. liquified bacon, just hook them up to an IV feed.
[00:47:21] <Bender> Also in quotes: 79, 81, 102
[00:47:27] <NCommander> !quote 102
[00:47:27] <Bender> Quote 102 - <Blackmoore> *I ate the bacon... but i did not eat the soylet green (sing to i shot the sherriff)
[00:50:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote TheMightyBuzzard
[00:50:47] <Bender> Quote 188 - <TheMightyBuzzard> no biggie, just had to decide where to put it.
[00:50:51] <Bender> Also in quotes: 189, 191
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[00:52:16] <Blackmoore> mm. we just string all those together and look at the resulting discussion with bewilderment
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[01:06:47] <blackmore|afk> i am too burned out to keep going. g'night folks
[01:18:40] <arti> later's blackmore
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[01:21:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Newly Discovered Dinosaur Reveals Unique Wing-Shaped Headgear - http://sylnt.us - it-got-rid-of-the-headgear-after-its-teenage-years
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[02:40:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Three Walls Could End the USA Tornado Threat - http://sylnt.us - things-that-are-more-like-towers
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[03:16:41] <SpallsHurgenson> <sigh>
[03:17:04] * juggs hands SpallsHurgenson a malt
[03:17:38] <SpallsHurgenson> the reason my download was slow was not because my internet sucks but because I had throttled it
[03:17:45] <SpallsHurgenson> now I gotta 'pologize to verizon
[03:19:05] <juggs> genius :D Memory not quite what it once was? :P
[03:19:27] <SpallsHurgenson> whose memory? what were we talking about?
[03:20:26] <paulej72> SpallsHurgenson: No need to aplogize to verizon as the were probably throttling you as well
[03:21:08] <SpallsHurgenson> on my connection, they don't need to.
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[04:00:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nest Wants to Share Data with Google - http://sylnt.us
[04:10:35] <SpallsHurgenson> currently, "google" is used as a verb meaning "to search" or "look up information". I wonder how long before it transforms to mean "rape"
[04:15:09] <juggs> vampire squid from hell, sucking in all information, with tentacles and filaments insinuating their way into every orifice and facet of human existence, all to better their own nourishment.
[04:18:17] <juggs> although that is probably derogatory to vampire squid
[04:26:15] <SpallsHurgenson> ummm...
[04:26:21] <SpallsHurgenson> ...
[04:26:24] <SpallsHurgenson> ... okay?
[04:26:26] <juggs> ?
[04:26:37] <juggs> too much?
[04:26:48] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm still taking it all in :)
[04:27:19] <SpallsHurgenson> on the plus side, I hear it's already been offered a part in three different japanese cartoons :)
[04:29:33] <juggs> I'm sure it was used recently to describe a (another) company too, I can't remember which though. Something about a vampire squid sucking on the faces of all other companies. Meh, my memory, my memory. my kingdom for my memory!
[04:30:08] <juggs> which is all a little harsh - vampire squid are quite interesting really
[04:30:23] <SpallsHurgenson> just imagine the monstrosity you described earlier; that's one memory you'll never get out of your head
[04:32:45] <juggs> hmm... if only I had an artistic bone in my body, it could be quite fun to do a Gluegle - the vampire squid sketch - have it zip around towns and cities slurping up everyone's data
[04:34:47] * SpallsHurgenson uses a rusty spoon to start digging that memory out of his brain
[04:38:15] <juggs> ummm.... that's probably not going to end well... but carry on. We shall await the outcome :D
[04:45:22] <swiss> http://www.clarionledger.com
[04:45:25] <monopoly> └ 03Coulter: Any growing interest in soccer a sign of nation's moral decay ( http://www.clarionledger.com )
[04:45:47] <swiss> all my lol
[04:46:08] <SpallsHurgenson> that proves it
[04:46:35] <SpallsHurgenson> Ethanol-Fueled = Ann Coulter
[04:47:37] <n1> SpallsHurgenson +1
[04:47:40] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, there can't be two trolls that big, stupid and obvious
[04:48:13] <juggs> wth - that link redirects to (or via) accountsolution.gcion.com harrumph argle bargle
[05:15:10] <juggs> This made me chuckle yesterday: http://www.theregister.co.uk Warning it is NFSW and comes with the usual disclaimers about ElReg's journalistic style.
[05:15:11] <monopoly> └ 03Creepy battery-operated TEDDY BEAR SEX TOY. Sadly, this is for real • The Register: Hold his ears while his TONGUE takes you to heaven and back! *retch*
[05:20:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bolivia Congress Clock Altered to Turn Anti-Clockwise - http://sylnt.us - how-does-it-work-on-a-digital-clock
[05:22:53] <chromas> Wait; so is the author retching or the teddy bear?
[05:27:06] <SpallsHurgenson> gonna be huge in the furry community
[05:29:44] <chromas> open graph sure is handy for page scanning
[05:35:37] <juggs> chromas - it's a typical ElReg tongue in cheek headline, they style themselves after the reactionary, populist UK print press (commonly known as red tops).
[05:36:37] <chromas> It makes me feel warm and fuzzy and more willing to let it into my home beause I identify with it
[05:36:55] <chromas> The headline; not the bear
[05:37:26] <chromas> Bender: s/Anti/Counter/
[05:37:26] <SedBot> <chromas> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bolivia Congress Clock Altered to Turn Counter-Clockwise - http://sylnt.us - how-does-it-work-on-a-digital-clock
[05:38:56] <juggs> The red tops are more about taking a popular view and coming up with some inflammatory, grossly misrepresented, outrageous headline in order to sell papers. I'm sure every country has them. ElReg is a satire on that.
[05:39:54] <chromas> Ours are all tv channels because we don't read :D
[05:40:47] <chromas> s/p/ papers/
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[05:41:26] <juggs> And yeah - now you pointed it out - who is doing the *retch* in that headline?? It's probably best not to dwell on that too long else you get to the inevitable "why is the bear retching?" thoughts. Argh - pass me the mind bleach!
[05:41:59] <chromas> I was going to make a crack about tuna, but
[05:42:14] <chromas> the bear would also like some bleach
[05:42:16] <juggs> I think we should leave it there
[05:47:30] <juggs> This is the archetypal UK red top http://www.dailymail.co.uk - all sensationalist headlines. Amusingly this one is always batting on about morality and chasteness while publishing endless streams of paparazzi images with headlines like "Ohh... hasn't celeb $x bloated out - check the bikini shots" type stuff. Hypocritical and devoid of any real substance - still seems to sell well.
[05:47:31] <monopoly> └ 03Home | Mail Online: MailOnline - all the latest news, sport, showbiz, science and health stories from around the world from the Daily Mail and Mail on Sunday newspapers
[05:49:18] <chromas> oh yeah; I remember that from /.
[05:54:28] <juggs> It's a shame proper investigative journalism is dying out.
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[07:12:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Agreeing to Amazon DRM Cost Publisher Control - http://sylnt.us - accept-these-standardized-terms-and-we'll-take-care-of-everything
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[07:24:37] <prospectacle> someone has probably thought of this already, but:
[07:25:24] <prospectacle> wouldn't it be cool if there were a wiki for coming up with stories. You post a link, I write add some description, someone else improves it. Eventually an editor says "Yep, good enough" and presses "add to queue".
[07:25:50] <prospectacle> we'd probably get a lot more stories that way
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[08:51:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - France Attacks ICANN as Unfit for Internet Governance: - http://sylnt.us - going-back-to-minitel
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[09:19:53] <crutchy> pizza++
[09:19:53] <Bender> karma - pizza: 8
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[09:38:27] <crutchy> prospectacle++ for story wiki
[09:38:27] <Bender> karma - prospectacle: 9
[09:38:42] <crutchy> lets just make one
[09:39:21] <crutchy> we could also feed rss links/titles into it automagically for ideas
[09:45:00] <crutchy> not sure how that would work... maybe a new section (==<title>==) for each feed title and if a section goes unchanged for X days the bot auto-deletes that section?
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[09:47:16] <crutchy> and users just log in and tinker with each section as they like. could also possibly make some IRC commands available for interaction (such as listing last 4 sections that have been edited, or even appending to last etc)
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[09:54:08] <crutchy> hmm or maybe a karma system... feeds get output to an IRC channel, and any source that gets a ++ is output to the wiki?
[09:54:49] <NCommander> paulej72, on the "annoying bugs front", we should look at fixing the "expand comment to read the rest of it" feature
[09:54:51] <crutchy> prolly need to get the wiki thingy working first... atm it only logs in/out :-./
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[10:13:08] * NCommander is purging more dead code out of /code
[10:13:14] <NCommander> Daypasses == DELETED
[10:18:44] <chromas> Is that like a one-day subscription?
[10:22:04] <crutchy> maybe it was access to the super secret slash section
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[10:28:29] <crutchy> hi Subsentient
[10:28:34] <crutchy> hi aqu4
[10:29:31] <Subsentient> hi crutchy
[10:29:34] <Subsentient> yeh internet quit
[10:31:34] <crutchy> that happens
[10:31:53] <crutchy> i timed out today too
[10:32:06] <NCommander> chromas, it was a feature on /. that if you sat through an ad, you got a pseudo-subscription
[10:32:35] <crutchy> ew... ads
[10:32:43] <chromas> Hm; did they use it?
[10:33:00] <chromas> I remember sometimes there were giant ads between the articles and their comments
[10:33:11] <crutchy> adblock worked well for /.
[10:35:17] * crutchy is working on a wiki editing script
[10:36:33] <chromas> You could install wikifs
[10:38:07] <crutchy> that would be cheating :-P
[10:39:01] <chromas> s/f/pediaf/
[10:39:01] <SedBot> <chromas> You could install wikipediafs
[10:39:13] <chromas> True; scraping's fun eh
[10:39:57] <crutchy> i'm using the api for this one... just to be different :-D
[10:40:41] <chromas> wfs is unmaintened anyway. Hey, you could port it to php!
[10:40:46] <chromas> or pascal
[10:41:36] <crutchy> could do the same as the SN comment posting script (pretend to be people) but the api looks pretty simple and funpika was nice and gave exec bot flag
[10:42:25] <crutchy> haven't really done anything with it yet :-/
[10:43:38] <chromas> ooh, spam detection
[10:43:47] <chromas> Does mediawiki have that?
[10:44:08] <chromas> But the bot could peek at new articlesand nuke bad users from orbit
[10:45:03] <crutchy> it uses a similar token system to SN
[10:45:45] <crutchy> haven't tried same approach with wiki as i did for SN comments but should work
[10:46:09] <crutchy> (pretend to be people)
[10:58:49] * NCommander is messing w/ the subscription code
[10:58:50] <NCommander> yay
[11:00:56] <chromas> NCommander: the thing to do is get some investors and sell out forbig prizes, then fork it under a different name, like maybe ntaco
[11:01:13] <chromas> different user name
[11:01:20] <NCommander> chromas, :-P
[11:01:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Should Re-Evaluate Definition of Skilled Workers in Immigration Policy - http://sylnt.us - only-constant-is-change
[11:02:33] <chromas> Change? Can anyone spare some change? I only need a little change
[11:03:56] <chromas> I notice on dev that the comment abbreviation doesn't take number of lines into account
[11:04:06] <crutchy> chromas: s/change/ebt/
[11:04:44] <chromas> crutchy: s/.*/It would have worked if it weren't for your meddling mouth, chromas!
[11:04:49] <chromas> /
[11:04:54] <crutchy> lol
[11:04:58] <chromas> SedBot:
[11:04:58] * SedBot is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[11:05:05] <crutchy> i usually bork seds anyway
[11:05:11] <chromas> s/.*/test/
[11:05:11] <SedBot> <chromas> test
[11:05:30] <chromas> crutchy: s/ /test
[11:05:34] <chromas> crutchy: s/ /test/
[11:05:34] <SedBot> <chromas> <crutchy> itestusually bork seds anyway
[11:05:45] <chromas> So no taunting when referencing another user
[11:06:05] <chromas> s/ /tee
[11:06:05] <SedBot> chromus, did you know there's THREE slashes in a proper s/// command?
[11:06:10] <crutchy> chromas: s/au/a/
[11:06:10] <SedBot> <crutchy> <chromas> So no tanting when referencing another user
[11:06:49] <chromas> You're right; SedBot needs an update, otherwise who will make me feel like a choad?
[11:06:54] <NCommander> .. did we break simple design at some point?
[11:06:57] * NCommander sighs
[11:07:10] <crutchy> breaking is fun
[11:07:14] <chromas> I think it was the part where we forked slash
[11:07:33] <chromas> 'we'
[11:08:04] <crutchy> then we all had a slash all over slash
[11:08:20] <crutchy> and then slashed slash with a slasher
[11:09:05] <crutchy> then slash took a dump and became crapd
[11:09:06] * chromas wonders if George Lucas was involved with slash at some point
[11:09:22] <crutchy> michael baysplosion!
[11:09:42] <chromas> I've been watching Red Letter Media
[11:09:53] <chromas> tsk tsk
[11:12:15] <chromas> I think there's a new baysplosion out
[11:12:56] <chromas> 2.5 hours
[11:13:41] <crutchy> i reckon in that one with the worm that chews up the building they removed every 2nd frame
[11:14:21] <chromas> They could be using those movies to push cool toys like jenga buildings and firebombs. Instead, we get foldable robots.
[11:14:25] <crutchy> it was almost like one of those flick cartoons that you draw on the edge of a book
[11:14:44] <chromas> I don't remember that; probably haven't seen it yet
[11:15:50] <crutchy> maybe the special effects are so awesome that my feeble human eyes can't process it quick enough so they skip every 2nd frame
[11:17:09] <crutchy> either that or the cinema projector wasn't baysplosion certified
[11:21:19] <chromas> looks okay on youtube, though it looks like it's got pulldown judder
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[11:21:53] <prospectacle> Hello
[11:22:05] <chromas> hey, prospectacle
[11:23:00] <prospectacle> Hey crutchy, i like the idea of auto-seeding story-wiki from RSS (could use various news sites). Then people interested in that story could add a piece or two, or if they think it's good enough, submit it to the queue.
[11:23:37] <crutchy> hi prospectacle. i'm just working on the wiki script atm
[11:23:46] <crutchy> slow going
[11:23:56] <prospectacle> oh cool. What does it do? or will it od?
[11:23:58] <prospectacle> do
[11:24:25] <crutchy> i'm just starting out by trying to get it to edit a page :-P
[11:24:39] <crutchy> we should be able to make it do whatever we want though (within reason)
[11:25:19] <prospectacle> sounds promising
[11:25:33] <crutchy> i have an rss/atom feeds script that i can tie into it though
[11:26:13] <prospectacle> yeah good. Shouldn't be hard to think up a list of sites to use for seeds: google news technology, ars technica, sci-tech daily, etc
[11:26:24] <prospectacle> maybe the list of sites/rss feeds could itself be a wiki page
[11:27:30] <prospectacle> can I help you with any part of it?
[11:30:04] <crutchy> atm rss feeds are just kept in a text file but definitely could be a wiki page. you're welcome to help if you want to. are you talking about coding?
[11:30:32] <prospectacle> yeah, got any little algorithms/puzzles I can solve and send to you to incorporate into the project?
[11:30:50] <crutchy> hmm plenty :-)
[11:31:16] <crutchy> although you can code directly too if you want to
[11:31:25] <prospectacle> what are you up to at the moment?
[11:31:35] <crutchy> ssec. i'll push to gh
[11:33:01] <crutchy> currently working on the edit function here: https://github.com
[11:33:45] <crutchy> i need to make another request for the token. i think i saw an example of that in the api manual
[11:34:11] <crutchy> the feeds script is here: https://github.com
[11:34:33] <crutchy> the bot can communicate between scripts so prolly easier to keep them separated
[11:34:50] <crutchy> using "/INTERNAL $msg"
[11:34:59] <crutchy> or buckets
[11:35:03] <prospectacle> I see
[11:36:28] <crutchy> its prolly a bit of a shonky system so not sure how deep you wanna get into it, but whatever your into is all good. up to you. you can even run your own exec if you're die hard enough :-P
[11:37:11] <prospectacle> so your edit() function will eventually give you the info you need to craft a _POST request, yes?
[11:38:12] <crutchy> it will prolly make the page edit based on function args and bucket valuees
[11:38:31] <prospectacle> is this targeted at a wikimedia wiki or something else?
[11:38:37] <crutchy> wikimedia
[11:39:47] <prospectacle> can you commit edits in wikimedia with just a url?
[11:40:02] <prospectacle> or do you need to do a POST?
[11:41:04] <crutchy> yeah will have to do post. lol i was copying the example here but didn't read the notes http://www.mediawiki.org
[11:41:05] <monopoly> └ 03API:Edit - MediaWiki
[11:41:37] <crutchy> i just have to replace wget with wpost (both lib.php functions)
[11:42:24] <prospectacle> oh ok cool
[11:42:36] <prospectacle> just testing editing now. I made a page called "sandbox" on the wiki
[11:42:49] <prospectacle> it didn't exist so if we mess with it, then it won't mess with anything else
[11:44:27] <crutchy> cool
[11:51:30] <prospectacle> ah ha!
[11:51:39] <prospectacle> do you have the web developer plugin for firefox?
[11:51:50] <crutchy> of course :-D
[11:52:01] <crutchy> (you mean the toolbar right?)
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[11:52:48] <crutchy> ~wiki login
[11:52:50] <exec> wiki login=
[11:52:57] <crutchy> lol
[11:53:15] <prospectacle> if you haven't done this already, I loaded the "Edit form" and i went right-click->web developer->forms->view form information, and it shows all the things you need to populate
[11:54:06] <crutchy> i think its slightly different with the api. prolly similar
[11:54:54] <crutchy> got a bunch of php notices with that login
[11:55:01] <crutchy> bot has changed a bit :-/
[11:56:18] <crutchy> ~join #test
[11:56:26] <prospectacle> oh i see (hadn't read your link before)
[11:56:34] <crutchy> ~join #test
[11:56:40] <crutchy> ~wiki login
[11:56:43] <exec> wiki login=Success, username=Exec (userid=1546)
[11:56:58] <crutchy> i like those sorts of bugs :-D
[11:57:12] <crutchy> ~wiki edit
[11:57:14] <exec> not logged in
[11:57:19] <crutchy> bah
[11:58:01] <crutchy> ~wiki edit
[11:58:03] <exec> not logged in
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[11:59:40] <prospectacle> well I'm gonna grab dinner. good luck. Let me know if you want help testing or solving problems or whatever.
[12:00:29] <crutchy> np. thanks and enjoy :-)
[12:13:52] <chromas> Going to steal crutchy's idea and make pizza tonight. What kind was it?
[12:16:17] <crutchy> it was home delivery flavored... the best kind :-D
[12:17:17] <crutchy> i think it had hot salami, fresh tomato, capsicum, bacon, mozzarella, basil, onion, etc
[12:17:35] <crutchy> i unchecked the ham though. reminds me of spew
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[12:18:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:18:55] <Bender> karma - coffee: 304
[12:19:06] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:19:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 305
[12:19:07] <chromas> Spew spew spew! Must be lasers with asthma
[12:20:18] <crutchy> my wife ate a hawaiian pizza years ago when she was preggers and powerchucked it everywhere. the images of ham chunks are still burned into the backs of my eyes
[12:20:41] <crutchy> (and of course i had to clean it *shudders*)
[12:21:33] <crutchy> chromas: we got ours from here: http://www.paxhillpizza.com.au
[12:21:36] <monopoly> └ 03Pax Hill Pizza To Go in Traralgon - Official Website
[12:21:37] <crutchy> very yummy
[12:22:13] <crutchy> mine started as an american, but all those extras checkboxes just couldn't be wasted
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[12:22:32] <chromas> That's what makes it american
[12:22:40] <chromas> Check all the boxes
[12:22:43] <crutchy> lol
[12:22:59] <crutchy> i'm sure some people do
[12:23:14] <crutchy> s/some/many/
[12:23:15] <SedBot> <crutchy> i'm sure many people do
[12:24:19] <chromas> I wonder if they can deliver to the states in forty minutes
[12:25:29] <crutchy> you have to check the scramjet extra
[12:25:53] <crutchy> must be pretty busy tonight
[12:26:15] <crutchy> on other days they can deliver sometimes in about 10-15 mins
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[12:26:54] <crutchy> ~part
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[12:28:29] <chromas> Pax Hill
[12:28:48] <chromas> s/ H//
[12:28:49] <SedBot> <chromas> Paxill
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[12:29:28] <chromas> Pizza that makes you happy
[12:42:58] <crutchy> haha! first edit: http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[12:42:59] <monopoly> └ 04Wiki: 03Sandbox: Looks like web-developer plugin has some of the required tools
[12:43:50] <chromas> woohoo!
[12:44:02] <crutchy> wikimedia_api++
[12:44:02] <Bender> karma - wikimedia_api: 1
[12:47:33] <crutchy> ~wiki edit
[12:50:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Congress Passes a Law to Protect Whistle Blowers - http://sylnt.us - corrupt-officials-will-comply-with-redundant-new-laws
[12:52:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> what're you doing to the poor wiki, crutchy?
[12:53:09] <crutchy> atm just bumbling
[12:53:23] <crutchy> trying to figure out how to edit an existing section
[12:53:39] <crutchy> i can add a new section no probs
[12:53:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> over a bot? you're the psychotic
[12:54:09] <crutchy> ke?
[12:54:23] <crutchy> oh
[12:54:24] <crutchy> lol
[12:54:32] <crutchy> friday night stupor :-P
[12:54:41] <crutchy> yeah its kinda fun
[12:54:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> you are a silly person.
[12:55:34] <crutchy> the script is pretty simple. the bot isn't that complicated, but has been developed for flexibility
[12:56:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i mean it probably would be but the interface would necessarily be cumbersome.
[12:57:13] <crutchy> we're looking at outputting some rss feeds to a wiki page to get some community summary editing going
[12:57:17] <crutchy> or something like that
[12:57:45] <chromas> We should make a google feed or hwatever replacement
[12:57:47] <chromas> reader
[12:57:51] <crutchy> irc commands will be more administrative (if anything) or internal timed events
[12:57:52] <chromas> SoylentReader—with comments
[12:58:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[12:58:52] <crutchy> prolly not as many as regurgitator
[12:59:26] <crutchy> prospectacle suggested using a wiki page for feed sources
[13:00:09] <crutchy> to replace https://github.com
[13:01:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> technically i "could" build an ajax-style reader as part of slash with a finalize+submit button.
[13:01:34] <crutchy> that would be cool
[13:01:52] <crutchy> exec could do it too... using the code fu that i used for submitting comments :-P
[13:02:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> be better if it had a human pushing the submit button
[13:02:36] <crutchy> true
[13:02:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> one bug and the editors want to cut your man parts off
[13:03:34] <crutchy> or an editor could mark a section on the wiki page with a submit keyword and the bot would pick it up automagically
[13:03:46] <crutchy> and submit it on their behalf
[13:03:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> put up a feature request for it on the github page.
[13:04:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, prolly best not to count on a bot that may be down.
[13:04:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> you break him regular enough
[13:04:47] <crutchy> nod
[13:04:50] <crutchy> lol
[13:05:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> is an idea with promise though
[13:05:18] <crutchy> its fun to try things
[13:05:30] <crutchy> i might work on a proof of concept. if its never used that's ok
[13:06:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> remind me about it when i get done with html entity support n we might see about implementing it on dev at least.
[13:06:24] <crutchy> when xlefay comes back he may be able to add the script to sublight (which will be hosted on the ircd server)
[13:07:14] <crutchy> sublight is the less dodgy version of exec that xlefay is building. it includes an ircd in it
[13:07:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, gotta go spend 12 hours in a car now. yall have fun.
[13:07:35] <crutchy> wow. have fun
[13:07:39] TheMightyBuzzard is now known as TheMightyBuzzard|CarsSuck
[13:07:50] <crutchy> nodos++
[13:07:50] <Bender> karma - nodos: 1
[13:08:04] <crutchy> nodoze++
[13:08:04] <Bender> karma - nodoze: 1
[13:08:12] <crutchy> nodos--
[13:08:12] <Bender> karma - nodos: 0
[13:10:49] <chromas> poor TheMightyBuzzard|CarsSuck; sitting in a box while it slides along the ground
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[13:26:08] <crutchy> $burrito aqu4
[13:26:08] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at crutchy
[13:26:15] <crutchy> aww
[13:26:57] <crutchy> $new-features
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[13:27:22] <chromas> I think it also does that if you $rs noitca
[13:27:46] <chromas> or some sort of taunt
[13:27:55] <chromas> $rs tset
[13:28:17] <crutchy> $rs 4uqa otirrub$
[13:28:25] <crutchy> $sr 4uqa otirrub$
[13:28:26] <aqu4> $burrito aqu4
[13:28:26] * chromas takes off dunce hat
[13:28:41] <chromas> oh yeah
[13:28:45] <chromas> $sr tset
[13:28:55] <crutchy> wtf
[13:29:11] <crutchy> $help
[13:29:11] <aqu4> Hi, I'm aqu4bot, version "baking", running on UNIX. I'm a bot written in pure C by Subsentient [http://universe2.us/]. My source code can be found at "http://github.com/Subsentient/aqu4bot/". Try the 'commands' command to get a list of what I can do, or try 'help cmd' where 'cmd' is a particular command.
[13:29:12] <chromas> I've been looking over my url extractor trying to figure out why it was stuck in infinite loop
[13:29:12] <monopoly> └ 03Universe 
[13:29:33] <chromas> Then finally noticed my string variable was in quotes for some reason
[13:29:53] <crutchy> is that cos it looked at http://http.com.net.ftp ?
[13:29:53] <monopoly> └ 03Index of  ( http://localhost )
[13:30:01] <chromas> hehe
[13:30:02] <crutchy> ah
[13:30:29] <chromas> where's the slash though?
[13:30:46] <chromas> I guess TheMightyBuzzard took it with him
[13:31:25] <crutchy> http://slash.my.mdash.dog-dirt.com.crackwhore.goat.cx
[13:31:58] <crutchy> ooh crap that probably opened the anus
[13:32:04] <crutchy> sorry about that
[13:32:05] <chromas> nah, server not found
[13:32:11] <crutchy> ah
[13:32:28] <chromas> it's okay; as long as it doesn't go to cp or otherwise cause a van to roll up
[13:32:59] <crutchy> it goes to the Central Missionary Position
[13:34:39] <chromas> Ooh, central
[13:35:04] <chromas> And I've been visiting the lower all this time?!
[13:35:26] <chromas> Southern plains
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[13:49:02] * NCommander swears at /code
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[14:18:46] <crutchy> hi KonomiNetbook
[14:27:02] * KonomiNetbook rufles crutchy' hair
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[14:40:03] <crutchy> ~wiki edit
[14:40:07] <exec> edit: section not found
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[14:41:41] <crutchy> ~wiki edit
[14:41:46] <exec> edit: section not found
[14:42:20] <Woods> Hi Crutchy, HAH, BEAT YOU TO IT
[14:42:34] <crutchy> hi woods
[14:42:36] <Woods> Mission accomplished.
[14:42:39] <Woods> I can die happy now.
[14:42:42] <crutchy> lol
[14:42:56] <crutchy> sounds awesome! ..whatever it is :-P
[14:43:12] <Woods> Dying? Eh, I guess it is alright.
[14:43:25] <Woods> Awesome may not be the right word for it though.
[14:43:54] <crutchy> everything is awesome when you look at it upside down
[14:44:33] <crutchy> what's new?
[14:44:51] <Woods> Not much, just trying to figure out what you even mean by that, lol.
[14:45:35] <crutchy> dunno. if you figure it out let me know eh
[14:45:43] <Woods> Copy that.
[14:46:08] * crutchy reboots brain
[14:46:49] <crutchy> ~wiki edit
[14:46:54] <exec> wiki edit=Success, oldrevid=7733, newrevid=7734
[14:47:22] <crutchy> ~wiki edit
[14:47:26] <exec> wiki edit=Success, oldrevid=7734, newrevid=7735
[14:47:42] <crutchy> ~wiki edit
[14:47:45] <exec> edit: section not found
[14:47:52] <crutchy> yay!
[14:48:04] <crutchy> no gir that's bad
[14:48:06] <crutchy> yay!
[14:51:10] * NCommander beats piwik
[14:51:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Houston, We Have a Public Domain Problem - http://sylnt.us - Tragedy-of-the-Commons
[14:51:49] <paulej72> NCommander: what’s up.
[14:54:12] <paulej72> NCommander: I have not bee looking at the simplified layout, but we probably did break it as it loads a different css file that is in none of our header template files. Should be able to fix it with a if statement with the appropriate css file load statement.
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[14:55:29] <NCommander> paulej72, yeah, I don't remember simple having colors or anything
[14:56:06] * NCommander is going to upload a piwik report for the community to look at
[14:56:55] <paulej72> NCommander: do you have any idea why the piwik stats are so much smaller than the slash ones?
[14:57:22] <prospectacle> what time of the week gets the most hits? is it monday at 930?
[14:57:34] <prospectacle> on american east coast
[14:57:54] <NCommander> paulej72, piwik doesn't get folks who have DNT enabled, i.e., NoScript installed
[14:58:01] <NCommander> prospectacle, over 50% of the traffic is from the US
[14:58:08] <NCommander> peak hours at 16-22 EST
[14:58:35] <prospectacle> hmm, makes sense
[14:58:36] <NCommander> Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 272608 bytes)
[14:58:39] <NCommander> That's a unique error
[14:59:06] <paulej72> NCommander: that would mean 80% of our users have DNT or NoScript running
[14:59:33] <crutchy> ~wiki edit Sandbox|blah|some text
[14:59:57] <prospectacle> nope
[15:00:00] <NCommander> paulej72, I suspect /code is counting things like graphic assets and shit. Slashcode's access log agrees with Apache
[15:01:15] * NCommander edits PHP's config file and tries to regenerate the report
[15:01:41] <NCommander> paulej72, which report are you looking at, slashcode's numbers are about 1/3 greater than piwik
[15:01:42] <crutchy> ~wiki edit Sandbox|blah|some text
[15:01:46] <exec> wiki: edit=section not found
[15:02:24] <paulej72> I was looking at the total pages in the Main Report
[15:02:47] <crutchy> ~wiki edit Sandbox|blah|some text
[15:02:56] <exec> wiki edit=invalidsection
[15:03:18] <paulej72> 52K pages - 8.6k index, 14.2K comments, 10.9k article
[15:03:51] <crutchy> ~wiki edit Sandbox|blah|some text
[15:03:55] <exec> wiki edit=Success, oldrevid=7735, newrevid=7736
[15:04:08] <crutchy> yay!
[15:04:16] <crutchy> ~wiki edit Sandbox|blah|
[15:04:20] <exec> wiki edit=emptynewsection
[15:04:27] <crutchy> grr
[15:04:28] <NCommander> paulej72, ?
[15:04:30] <NCommander> paulej72, which page is that
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[15:04:58] <paulej72> backslash stats reports
[15:05:01] <prospectacle> crutchy it works!
[15:05:09] <crutchy> kinda
[15:05:14] <prospectacle> progress!
[15:05:19] <crutchy> just fixing up deleting of sections
[15:05:23] <paulej72> First graph
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[15:06:24] <NCommander> paulej72, that's roughly in line with what piwik says
[15:06:36] <NCommander> paulej72, a visitor is one person, if you look at page views, the numbers more or less line up
[15:07:35] <NCommander> paulej72, (slash tracks that number by IPID, piwik uses a cookie)
[15:08:13] * prospectacle is watching the I.T. crowd, "In hamburg, a group of software developers shouted at a bus"
[15:08:36] <chromas> Peter File
[15:08:45] <prospectacle> "in tokyo, two games designers went on a rampage in the shopping centre and frightened a dog"
[15:08:53] * NCommander is formatting this to PDF
[15:09:01] <paulej72> NCommander: what I am seeing is about 10K page views on piwik per day, 20% of slash. Am I looking in th wrong place
[15:09:05] <crutchy> poor dog... did it have a bike?
[15:09:13] <prospectacle> well it's tokyo
[15:09:14] <crutchy> they might've been after the bike
[15:09:23] <crutchy> like any good nerds :-P
[15:10:56] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm not convinced slash's numbers are correct
[15:11:16] * NCommander is looking
[15:11:19] <crutchy> ~wiki edit Sandbox|exec test|
[15:11:28] <exec> wiki edit=Success, oldrevid=7736, newrevid=7737
[15:11:40] <crutchy> yay!
[15:11:42] <paulej72> NCommander: I am not either, I just wanted to get a better explanation of the discrepency
[15:12:04] <crutchy> ~wiki edit Sandbox|new section|blah blah bling doorsnoker
[15:12:09] <exec> wiki edit=Success, oldrevid=7737, newrevid=7738
[15:12:14] <prospectacle> you're the man crutchy. Who needs web browsers when you can just write a command line
[15:12:26] <crutchy> ~wiki edit Sandbox|new section|
[15:12:30] <exec> wiki edit=Success, oldrevid=7738, newrevid=7739
[15:12:31] <NCommander> paulej72, my guess is that its tracking shit its not supposed to be tracking. i.e., images and such
[15:12:37] <crutchy> i think we got it
[15:12:53] <NCommander> paulej72, furthermore, varnish hits slash once every few seconds to make sure its alive. Slash is supposed to filter it out, but I have my doubts
[15:13:23] <crutchy> just gotta link the feeds script in, get the feed sources from a wiki page and we're done :-)
[15:13:27] <prospectacle> ~wiki edit sandbox|exec test|what's going on here?
[15:13:30] <NCommander> Plus stats shouldn't be varnished
[15:13:46] <NCommander> We know slash doesn't see every hit
[15:13:48] <crutchy> sec. gotta add you to the account list
[15:14:01] <prospectacle> crutchy, what should the page be called: rss_sources?
[15:14:09] <crutchy> err. yeah i guess?
[15:14:11] <prospectacle> I'll make it
[15:14:28] <crutchy> hmm. are you identified with NickServ prospectacle?
[15:14:40] <chromas> Have exec make it
[15:15:00] <chromas> That's more fun
[15:16:16] <crutchy> ~wiki logout
[15:16:17] <exec> wiki: no action specified
[15:16:23] <crutchy> pfft
[15:16:35] <prospectacle> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[15:16:36] <monopoly> └ 04Wiki: 03Rss sources: http://feeds.arstechnica.com http://rss.slashdot.org
[15:16:36] <monopoly> └ 03Slashdot
[15:16:36] <monopoly> └ 03Ars Technica
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[15:16:57] <crutchy> ~wiki logout
[15:16:59] <exec> wiki: successfully logged out
[15:17:14] <crutchy> cool
[15:17:52] * crutchy digs out feeds script from the junk pile
[15:19:14] <crutchy> goin to have to temper it more than on an IRC channel. spamming a wiki page will get my into trouble :-P
[15:19:53] <crutchy> maybe 1 new section every hour tops?
[15:20:28] <prospectacle> yeah doesn't have to be a lot. Even two or three times a day would be plenty
[15:20:56] <crutchy> mkay yeah that should provide some for editors (and would-be editors) to work with in addition to the normal sources
[15:21:10] <prospectacle> The trick is that we get people to take those seeds and turn them into stories. Maybe when we're testing we can discuss edits here on #soylent as we make them in the wiki. And when it's ready someone manually submits it to the queue
[15:21:33] <prospectacle> After a while if it catches on people will know to check the wiki page and make their edits without mentioning it
[15:22:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - France Attacks ICANN as Unfit for Internet Governance - http://sylnt.us - going-back-to-minitel
[15:22:13] * NCommander wonders how hard it will be to fix the Blob plugin
[15:23:43] * NCommander takes an honest stab at fixing it
[15:25:59] <NCommander> [Fri Jun 27 13:25:34 2014] [error] [client 8] Request content-length of 803382 is larger than the configured limit of 75000
[15:26:00] <NCommander> hrm
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[15:28:54] <crutchy> prospectacle: if you're interested, here's the latest wiki source: https://github.com
[15:28:58] <crutchy> g'day Bytram|away
[15:29:06] <prospectacle> thanks
[15:29:16] <NCommander> Can folks download this: http://meta.dev.soylentnews.org
[15:29:17] <monopoly> └ 04SN article: 03Blob test 04(0 comments): Reply
[15:29:21] <NCommander> (there's a link in that)
[15:29:47] <Woods> NCommander: Yes.
[15:30:01] <NCommander> Neat
[15:30:10] <NCommander> I think we must have inadverantly fixed the blob function at some point
[15:30:20] <NCommander> Or maybe its just the image uploader that was foobared
[15:31:26] <prospectacle> crutchy, looking good. Clear variable names are always nice to see
[15:31:37] <prospectacle> ncommander, report looks good
[15:31:50] <prospectacle> wow, detailed
[15:31:52] <NCommander> prospectacle, thinking I'll run an article at noon about it
[15:31:55] <crutchy> prospectacle: just realised you do need the bot to run any of the scripts that use buckets :-/
[15:32:01] <NCommander> prospectacle, it was even more detailed before, I had to cut it down
[15:32:16] <Woods> Wow, this is weird, after Windows, more visits from Android than anything else.
[15:32:36] <paulej72> NCommander: I would rerun the report and leave off the 7th as it was only a partial day.
[15:32:43] <crutchy> nobody uses SpyPhone anymore
[15:32:45] <prospectacle> woods, yeah i check it on my phone if i'm out
[15:33:01] <NCommander> paulej72, yeah, I'll do that
[15:33:02] <Woods> I am not that dedicated.
[15:33:08] <NCommander> Woods, on weekends, Linux almost beats it
[15:33:11] <prospectacle> i like how it's most traffic from 9 to 5 with a small dip at lunch time
[15:33:21] <NCommander> Woods, the report is slightly skewed; Ubuntu shows up as its own OS, not Linux
[15:33:31] <Woods> Interesting.
[15:33:31] <crutchy> debian++
[15:33:31] <Bender> karma - debian: 6
[15:34:17] <NCommander> I take it this would be an article of interest if I ran it?
[15:34:22] <crutchy> i'm trolling for the linux crows :-P
[15:34:33] <crutchy> s/ws/wd even/
[15:34:33] <SedBot> <crutchy> i'm trolling for the linux crowd even :-P
[15:34:34] <prospectacle> NCommander, meta stories seem to get the most hits
[15:35:05] <crutchy> meta stories?
[15:35:06] <prospectacle> NCommander, maybe we should just accept this and change the site to "soylent news news"
[15:35:20] <prospectacle> crutchy, stories about the site itself
[15:35:20] <NCommander> prospectacle, people would fucking lynch me if I did that
[15:35:27] <prospectacle> lol
[15:35:28] <crutchy> ah
[15:35:40] <Woods> Woah cool, you can see the curve of Firefox 29 go down as they updated to Firefox 30.
[15:36:22] <crutchy> aww i wanna see the dotty plotty
[15:36:51] <prospectacle> "All meta, all the time (click here to filter by stories about this motto)"
[15:36:53] <crutchy> is it on dev or something? i get lost in all this server mish mash
[15:37:11] <prospectacle> crutchy, scroll up
[15:37:25] <chromas> NCommander: you're doing it wrong. Should be a screenshot in a pdf, in a word doc
[15:37:39] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[15:37:56] <Bytram> crutchy: hiya! Sry, was busy trying to clean up a story.
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[15:38:00] <Woods> Also interesting: We get nearly equal traffic on Monday-Thursday, but it dips by 1/3rd for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
[15:38:10] <crutchy> g'day mrcoolbp
[15:38:20] <mrcoolbp> ello there
[15:38:38] <prospectacle> mrcoolbp
[15:38:53] <mrcoolbp> sup prospectacle
[15:39:06] <crutchy> chromas... a bmp in a swf in a wrl in a ppt in an exe
[15:39:20] <prospectacle> this and that
[15:39:21] <crutchy> all wrapped up in a bat :-P
[15:39:37] <crutchy> named 'melissa.bat' :-D
[15:39:38] <prospectacle> we're reading the traffic report, good times. http://meta.dev.soylentnews.org
[15:39:41] <Woods> Crutchy, Chromas: Need to wrap that up in an msi.
[15:39:42] <chromas> ~define .wrl
[15:39:55] <exec> .wrl: unable to find definition
[15:40:25] <crutchy> isn't it one of those weird web animationy thingy formats?
[15:40:31] <crutchy> ~define wrl format
[15:40:46] <exec> wrl format: unable to find definition
[15:41:18] <prospectacle> i think it should be an .swf in an .ods, embedded on a web-page viewable only with silverlight
[15:41:22] <crutchy> ~define-add .wrl nfi but crutchy reckons it might be one of those weird web animationy thingy formats
[15:41:22] <exec> definition for term ".wrl" set to "nfi but crutchy reckons it might be one of those weird web animationy thingy formats"
[15:41:40] <crutchy> lol
[15:41:53] <chromas> ~say $ddg wrl format
[15:41:55] <exec> $ddg wrl format
[15:41:55] <aqu4> No results found.
[15:42:01] <crutchy> yeah silverlight will really make it available to the masses :-P
[15:42:16] <paulej72> Woods: there is one less firday in that list so the numbers are off
[15:42:19] <crutchy> chromas++ for the workaround :-P
[15:42:19] <Bender> karma - chromas: 16
[15:42:42] <prospectacle> opera operators spend the most time on the site on average
[15:42:46] <prospectacle> they must have attention spans or something
[15:43:06] <Woods> Ohhhh
[15:43:16] <chromas> Or don't close the page
[15:43:24] <Woods> Paulej72: I wonder what it will look like at the end of the day then.
[15:43:26] <prospectacle> yeah can't find the off button
[15:43:30] * crutchy downloads file but is ready with malware whacking stick :-D
[15:43:33] <paulej72> NCommander: you should make the next one Sun June 8 - Sat June 21 so all of the data is comparable
[15:43:44] * Bytram would like to see the standard deviation/variance on "Avg. Time on Website" (e.g. on "Visits by Day of Week")
[15:44:08] <paulej72> Woods: fridays are as good as the rest of the week, maybe just a bit less
[15:44:16] <Woods> Ah
[15:45:31] <crutchy> prospectacle: opera users might be a little slow readers :-P
[15:45:45] * crutchy hides
[15:45:59] <paulej72> Woods: Also sat and sunday are mostly even. The first Sat (june 7) was a partial day that lowered the sat stats
[15:46:53] <prospectacle> i like a good graph
[15:47:15] <prospectacle> This is a long shot but anyone read the latest "quarterly essay" about china and australia?
[15:47:15] <chromas> Opera is good at sessions. Firefox usually forgets on startup
[15:47:42] <prospectacle> Anyway it has one graph, the gdp growth every year of aus. history. A few interesting things but hard to make sense of.
[15:47:55] <Bytram> hmmm, what is "Bounce Rate" ??
[15:48:05] <prospectacle> Then it's put in terms of aus. rank (in gdp per capita) and suddenly it all makes perfect sense
[15:48:29] <crutchy> wtf... was there only 10 visits from users with debian in the whole month!?
[15:48:36] <prospectacle> it goes up and up and up (believe it or not aus was #1 in late 19th century) then we gradually, steadily dropped to 20th in the 1980s, then rose again to now #7
[15:48:52] <crutchy> am i the only person in the whole SN community that uses debian? :-(
[15:49:05] <prospectacle> anyway, a stunningly clear graph. Mostly to do with world resource prices (largely wool and stuff we dig out of the ground)
[15:49:14] <chromas> You and Konomichan
[15:49:30] <Konomi> ;p
[15:49:51] <chromas> Debian is therefore popular in Australia
[15:49:56] <crutchy> lol
[15:50:19] <crutchy> yer all a bunch o' lusers with yer windoze 7 n shit
[15:51:02] <chromas> archlinux++
[15:51:03] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 5
[15:51:29] <crutchy> either that or there's a bunch of folks with debian and cookies disabled :-)
[15:51:35] <crutchy> hehe
[15:51:45] <NCommander> Bytram, piwik is open source :-)
[15:51:57] <Bytram> nice!
[15:51:58] <NCommander> crutchy, do you use iceweasel or something else
[15:52:07] <NCommander> Bytram, feel free to hack it (or its report API) to generate what you want
[15:52:20] <crutchy> NCommander: iceweasel here
[15:52:23] <Bytram> NCommander: Am I correct in assuming that it just logs all the data, and then you have a choice of what *subset* of that data that you want reported on?
[15:53:16] <NCommander> Bytram, more or less. Its whatever comes in on the javascript or hidden image
[15:53:36] <NCommander> paulej72, hrm, I've noticed that piwik's tracker isn't on *every* page, just ones that load footer template
[15:54:00] <prospectacle> Why doesn't everyone just use ie6? it's the official standards compliant browser and supports activex. You're just making life harder for webmasters if you use obscure third party knock-offs
[15:54:21] * NCommander beats prospectacle
[15:54:35] <crutchy> prospectacle: i can't cos it won't install on my windows for workgroups
[15:54:44] * prospectacle runs back into his time machine and goes back to the nineties where people understand how to use the internet
[15:54:51] <NCommander> Ok, report regenerated to exclude the 7th
[15:54:55] * NCommander is writing something for the main page
[15:55:33] <paulej72> NCommander: the admin pages do not use the regular footer template(uses admin footer), not sure what else.
[15:55:33] <Bytram> hmmm, I'd think the easiest approach would be to imbed a "webbug" into the site CSS to use, for example, as a background color source/image.
[15:55:37] <NCommander> OK
[15:55:37] <NCommander> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[15:55:38] <NCommander> Fuck
[15:55:46] * NCommander goes to look at the error logs
[15:56:23] <Bytram> I wonder if monopoly is feeling okay today? http://go.theregister.com
[15:56:24] <monopoly> └ 03HP gets 'Playboy model and the ex-CEO' lawsuit kicked out ... AGAIN • The Register: Judge: Stop wasting my time with this case, shareholders ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[15:56:42] <crutchy> http://crapd
[15:56:42] <monopoly> └ 03Index of  ( http://localhost )
[15:56:55] <NCommander> Great
[15:56:55] <Bytram> hmm, hurd? Isn't that an OS or sumthin? =)
[15:56:58] <NCommander> It got managed on production
[15:57:00] <NCommander> -_-;
[15:57:02] * NCommander debugs
[15:57:32] <crutchy> NCommander: just press the any key
[15:58:06] * NCommander beats crutchy
[15:58:38] blackmore|afk is now known as Blackmoore
[15:58:41] <Blackmoore> mornin
[15:58:59] <prospectacle> hi blackmoore
[15:59:08] * NCommander wonders if its related to UTF-8 ...
[16:00:21] <chromas> /join #help
[16:01:50] <chromas> Bytram: monopoly does open graph summaries too now
[16:02:23] <Bytram> chromas: huh? example please?
[16:02:46] <chromas> Well like the link you pasted
[16:02:53] <paulej72> NCommander: try staff slash
[16:03:24] <chromas> If the page has an og summary than it shows up here with the title
[16:05:53] <NCommander> paulej72, I will in a bit
[16:05:58] <prospectacle> re i.t. crowd: the second mr denham is so much better
[16:06:02] <NCommander> paulej72, process_file_queue is hanging
[16:07:29] <NCommander> # Stubbed Out
[16:07:29] <NCommander> sub listAll {
[16:07:29] <NCommander> }
[16:07:30] <NCommander> ...
[16:07:55] -!- TK has quit [Quit: Web client closed]
[16:09:38] <NCommander> That was a bad idea
[16:09:48] <NCommander> Note for future: don't do select * from blobs on the DB
[16:11:21] <NCommander> Looks like blobs never get properly deleted from slash
[16:11:25] * NCommander clears out the table
[16:12:59] <paulej72> NCommander: i hope that dis not break anything
[16:13:25] <NCommander> paulej72, I haven't done anything yet
[16:13:37] <NCommander> I'm curious on why this works on dev, and not on production
[16:15:50] <NCommander> shit
[16:15:52] <NCommander> shit shit shit
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[16:16:38] <crutchy> hi mechanicjay
[16:16:58] <NCommander> paulej72, do me a favor and hit me
[16:17:00] <crutchy> any more sign of xlefay?
[16:17:02] <NCommander> I think oxygen got deleted
[16:17:11] <crutchy> yay!
[16:17:15] <NCommander> The bill went to the spam folder, and it wasn't set to autopay
[16:17:29] * Bytram gasps for air
[16:17:35] <crutchy> no gir that's bad
[16:17:39] <crutchy> yay!
[16:17:51] <NCommander> No wait, its just suspended
[16:17:53] <NCommander> I can recover it
[16:18:06] <paulej72> NCommander: not a big issue as we only had db backups on it
[16:18:12] <crutchy> mono... doh!
[16:19:09] <paulej72> NCommander: and I also kept local copies of the newest db backups for each of the servers
[16:19:35] <NCommander> paulej72, <3
[16:19:36] * crutchy wonders what would be the appropriate response if the ircd server took a dump on itself
[16:19:38] <NCommander> I'm recovering it anyway
[16:19:43] <NCommander> crutchy, oh fucking shit
[16:19:49] <NCommander> We don't have access to the box the IRCd is on
[16:20:07] <NCommander> !google 10 EUR to USD
[16:20:14] <NCommander> ... didn't we have a bot that did google?
[16:20:41] <crutchy> we got one that does duck duck go
[16:20:50] <NCommander> !ddg 10 EUR to USD
[16:20:54] <NCommander> >.>;
[16:20:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chemical Iris for CCD Cameras - http://sylnt.us - Atelier
[16:20:56] <crutchy> $ddg gir is awesome
[16:20:57] <aqu4> No results found.
[16:21:03] <crutchy> aww
[16:21:11] <NCommander> Ok, bill paided
[16:21:14] <NCommander> $ddg 10 USD to EUR
[16:21:15] <aqu4> No results found.
[16:21:17] <NCommander> -_-;
[16:21:21] <prospectacle> $google 1000000 monkeys in Complete works of shakespeare
[16:21:30] <paulej72> $ddg 10 EUR to USD
[16:21:31] <aqu4> No results found.
[16:21:38] <crutchy> gimme a few minutes
[16:22:55] <NCommander> Ok, oxygen is on its way back
[16:23:15] <Bytram> https://www.wolframalpha.com
[16:23:18] <monopoly> └ 03 convert $10 usd to euro - Wolfram|Alpha: Check out these dynamically computed results from Wolfram|Alpha!
[16:23:46] <Bytram> = 7.34 euros
[16:23:55] * NCommander backs up the SN database
[16:25:06] <crutchy> ~google 10 EUR to USD
[16:25:08] <paulej72> NCommander: last db backup that was copied to oxygen was 6-25, so we only were down a couple of days :)
[16:25:14] <exec> [Google] This USD/EUR Chart lets you see this pair's currency rate history for up to 10 years! XE uses highly accurate, live mid-market rates sourced from over 150 rate ...
[16:25:23] <crutchy> pfft
[16:25:31] <crutchy> needs a bit of filtering
[16:25:46] <NCommander> paulej72, I just took a manual one and dumped the blobs table before deleting it
[16:25:58] <paulej72> NCommander: are you using my script to do the backup?
[16:26:17] <NCommander> paulej72, no, I'm just doing mysqldump --all-databases --single-transaction
[16:27:26] <Bytram> hmmm, I can't seem to load icinga at all any more? https://sentinel.soylentnews.org
[16:27:37] <NCommander> Bytram, someone fiddled with the apache config on boron
[16:28:16] <paulej72> wasn’t me
[16:28:42] <Bytram> NCommander: mmm, not quite following you on that one. How does that affect icinga?
[16:29:15] <paulej72> NCommander: what is the status of our wildcard cert?
[16:29:31] <NCommander> paulej72, dep-wait incorporation due to the fact we need to fix the WHOIS information
[16:29:41] <NCommander> paulej72, Jon registered it under what appears to be a fake name -_-;
[16:30:01] <paulej72> dumbass
[16:30:25] <paulej72> oh sorry did I say that out loud :P
[16:31:25] <Bytram> hmm: http://www.itworld.com
[16:31:28] <monopoly> └ 03Rare SMS worm targets Android devices
[16:31:29] <NCommander> [Fri Jun 27 14:31:14 2014] [error] Undefined subroutine &Slash::Blob::errorLog called at /srv/soylentnews.org/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/Slash/Blob.pm line 159.\n
[16:31:29] <NCommander> stoid='169' OR fhid=NULL
[16:31:31] <NCommander> da fuck?
[16:31:48] <NCommander> paulej72, yeah, I rather only do that once so ...
[16:32:02] <NCommander> paulej72, we still ahve soylentnews.jp if we ever need it (on 3 year registration!)
[16:33:00] <NCommander> if ($constants->{utf8}) {
[16:33:00] <NCommander> $values->{"-data"} = "0x" . unpack("H*", delete $values->{data});
[16:33:00] <NCommander> }
[16:33:01] <NCommander> ......
[16:33:04] <NCommander> Really?
[16:33:09] <NCommander> REALLY?
[16:33:12] <NCommander> ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[16:33:47] <NCommander> How does a binary file function require UTF-8 to work. Why does it care ... why?!
[16:33:48] <Bytram> bye bye blobbie
[16:33:53] * NCommander feels his head pop off
[16:34:19] <prospectacle> the code you can understand is not the true code
[16:34:39] * NCommander WTFs more
[16:35:00] <NCommander> Like
[16:35:01] <NCommander> WTF
[16:35:02] <NCommander> Seriously
[16:35:09] <NCommander> Ok, you know what
[16:35:17] <NCommander> ARGH
[16:35:20] * NCommander rages more
[16:35:37] <NCommander> paulej72, how soon are we ready to break production with the UTF-8 code? :-)?
[16:35:53] * prospectacle makes ncommander a calming cup of tea
[16:35:55] <chromas> Maybe the blobs are base4294967296 encoded
[16:36:03] <NCommander> Random number generator
[16:36:11] <NCommander> My brain is physically in pain from that
[16:36:13] <NCommander> Seriously
[16:36:30] <chromas> 2^32
[16:36:48] <NCommander> Holy crap
[16:36:49] <NCommander> email from xlefay
[16:37:00] <NCommander> paulej72, I need your public key, he's going to get us on the IRC server
[16:43:30] <NCommander> [Fri Jun 27 14:43:12 2014] [error] /admin.pl:Slash::Display:/srv/soylentnews.org/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/x86_64-linux/Slash/Display.pm:187:Failed template lookup (returning false) on 'static_files;admin[misc];night[default]', keys: 354, callers: Apache::ROOTdev_2esoylentnews_2eorg::admin_2epl line 2562, Apache::ROOTdev_2esoylentnews_2eorg::admin_2epl line 275, Apache::ROOTdev_2esoylentnews_2eorg::admin_2epl line 2566 ;; Wh
[16:43:30] <NCommander> ich was called by:Apache::ROOTdev_2esoylentnews_2eorg::admin_2epl:/srv/dev.soylentnews.org/slashcode/site/soylent-mainpage/htdocs/admin.pl:2562
[16:43:35] <NCommander> Fuck /code
[16:43:42] * NCommander googles, sometimes you can find missing templates
[16:44:17] <crutchy> NCommander: how's xlefay doing?
[16:44:25] <NCommander> crutchy, "up and down"
[16:44:51] <NCommander> paulej72, http://en.sourceforge.jp - oh look, slashdot.jp has their site open source
[16:44:55] <monopoly> └ 03Commit Details: 1113 - slashdotjp (svn) - Slashdot Japan - SourceForge.JP: Commit Details: 1113 - slashdotjp (svn) - Slashdot Japan #opensource #sfjp
[16:46:32] <NCommander> the ****
[16:46:35] <NCommander> We have that tempalte
[16:50:30] <NCommander> I'd love to know the idiot who forgot to include that in the manifest
[16:54:00] <crutchy> run "git forgot"
[16:54:10] * crutchy hides
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[17:11:54] <TK> IP transfers are a b!tch
[17:12:29] <Woods> Ah yes, the old addage.
[17:12:45] <Woods> "IP transfers doth be similar to yon bitches"
[17:13:35] <TK> I guess it would have to be the plural
[17:13:51] <TK> people shouting back and forth at each other and ultimately accomplishing nothing
[17:13:58] <TK> bitchin'
[17:15:03] <TK> and everyone involved (except me) has English as a second language
[17:15:18] <Bytram> monopoly; where is this? http://feedproxy.google.com
[17:15:20] <monopoly> └ 03Friday Poll: Do you want an Android Wear smartwatch? - CNET: A new round of smartwatches is set to arrive in July, sporting the Android Wear OS. Will one of them end up on your wrist? ( http://www.cnet.com )
[17:15:27] <Bytram> thanks!
[17:16:32] * NCommander is making debugging progress
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[17:19:20] <mrcoolbp> Ncommander: hi!
[17:19:27] * NCommander licks mrcoolbp
[17:19:28] <NCommander> WB!
[17:19:41] <NCommander> Ok, so image uploader semi-works now
[17:19:42] <NCommander> yay
[17:19:46] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: almost back, I'll be really back Sunday (but I have to work)
[17:19:50] <mrcoolbp> cool
[17:20:02] <Bytram> NCommander: YAY!
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[17:20:07] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: wanna copy me on that email from xlefay? I didn't get one
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[17:20:14] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: g'day!
[17:20:22] <mrcoolbp> g'day Bytram!
[17:21:05] * Bytram is procrastinating about getting ready for the work day; would rather go back to bed and take a nap.
[17:21:26] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: I got two weird emails I'm going to CC you on, I don't know what to make of them
[17:21:45] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: either spam, confused user, or something else
[17:22:54] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, yeah, I heard from xlefay
[17:23:25] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: is he okay?
[17:23:43] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, seems so, just not around much
[17:23:55] <mrcoolbp> I see
[17:24:07] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, I haven't got a clue on either of those emails
[17:24:22] <mrcoolbp> yea, weird shit
[17:24:29] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: I got a spam mail along the lines of Nigerian prince scam but for a purported charity purpose.
[17:24:48] <mrcoolbp> yeah spam is definitely way up last 2 weeks
[17:25:42] <NCommander> spamassassin is required
[17:25:49] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, how's the cape
[17:25:57] <mrcoolbp> it's fucking amazing
[17:26:01] <Bytram> otoh, that is, as far as I can recall, the only one that has made it to me. not really a problem.
[17:26:09] <Bytram> mrcoolbp++ Good For YOU!!!
[17:26:09] <Bender> karma - mrcoolbp: 15
[17:26:51] <mrcoolbp> bytram, my email addys appear on pages in slash, I'm not surprised I have more than you
[17:27:44] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: ahhhh, that 'splains it!
[17:28:55] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, so, using your place as the address for incorporation is a no-go?
[17:29:22] <mrcoolbp> I'll check with her one more time, but she was...less then physched
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[17:32:19] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, I understand :-/
[17:32:59] Bytram is now known as Bytram|afk
[17:33:53] <NCommander> paulej72, mrcoolbp, ok, so the image uploader works, the attached file function works
[17:34:12] <NCommander> The "thumbnail for story" function appears not to be connected to anything, and I can't figure out WTF the media bit is for
[17:34:17] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: so we can post an image in a story now?
[17:34:29] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, on dev ... the file uploader breaks if UTF-8 is broken
[17:34:30] <NCommander> >.>;
[17:34:36] <NCommander> Please don't ask how those two are connected
[17:34:50] <mrcoolbp> but how are they-- oh I see = )
[17:35:11] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, but yeah, you can upload an image then stick it in the story
[17:35:35] <mrcoolbp> cool
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[17:38:53] <NCommander> paulej72, also, unrelated, but the nexus cookie issue just bit me -_-;
[17:38:56] <NCommander> ARGH
[17:42:22] <paulej72> NCommander: not all of the bugs are worked out of utf-8 yet. We seemed to have broken entites in the process and we need them to work properly (the & is getting encoded as &amp; and thus breaking the entity.
[17:44:05] <NCommander> paulej72, :-/
[17:44:17] <paulej72> NCommander: the utf-8 issue with the blobs is that the table is set to utf-8 but the DBIX connection is not using utf-8. This is probably causing the blob to get stored imporperly in the db
[17:45:51] <NCommander> paulej72, how do we fix that?
[17:48:12] <paulej72> NCommander: Part of what needs done is here: https://github.com
[17:48:58] <NCommander> paulej72, I've done almost all that on production a long time ago
[17:49:00] <paulej72> NCommander: what TheMightyBuzzard|CarsSuck did was edit ~/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/DBIx/Password.pm in different way. Look at the file on dev
[17:49:07] <NCommander> looking
[17:49:34] <NCommander> oh
[17:49:35] <NCommander> ew
[17:49:36] <NCommander> , {mysql_enable_utf8 => 1}
[17:49:40] <NCommander> That's a hack, not a fix :-/
[17:49:56] <NCommander> (granted, DBIx::Password is a hack in general ...)
[17:51:43] <paulej72> NCommander: the README shows that we should be passing the my.cnf in as part of the connection string. I also thought we should be able to set the mysql_enable_uft8 in the attributes, but TMB says he tried that and it did not work (the second only)
[17:52:17] <NCommander> That's a really nasty hack; DBIx::Password isn't code we technically control
[17:52:25] <NCommander> We can deal with it, but that's something that needs to be fixed properly at some point
[17:53:16] <paulej72> NCommander: but the virtual users are stored in this file so it is somthing that is set upon setting up slash
[18:02:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Germany Cancels Verizon Contract over Snooping Fear - http://sylnt.us - the-pendulum-swings
[18:05:37] <NCommander> paulej72, no, its done when you install DBIx::Password, it asks for the information; slash doesn't create or manage that file
[18:07:06] <paulej72> NCommander: but you do set it up with the data that you are using with slash, and thus is slash specific. Also you had to edit that file when changing form a single db to reader/writer setup.
[18:08:01] <NCommander> paulej72, fair enough
[18:08:18] <paulej72> NCommander: the good thing though is that that module is abandonware as the author has noting on his website about it any more, so we should not see any updates to the code :)
[18:08:24] <NCommander> paulej72, I don't get why we can't set it at top though
[18:08:52] <paulej72> NCommander: we probably can, I was planning on testing that on dev.
[18:09:06] <Bytram|afk> NCommander: paulej72: I just sent both of you an email with sample test data, links to a github page which generates all UTF-8 sequences, and a link to a suggested font.
[18:09:21] <Bytram|afk> time for me to get going about my day... back in a bit.
[18:09:31] <paulej72> NCommander: I was trying ot find documentation on the module online but there is none.
[18:12:38] <Bytram|afk> the utf8 code generator is at: https://github.com
[18:16:04] * NCommander just wants to rage at times
[18:22:30] <NCommander> paulej72, https://github.com
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[18:42:28] <paulej72> NCommander: i redid the DBIx::Password page on dev and it seems to work, but I am not 100 sure
[18:42:36] <paulej72> %
[18:44:31] <NCommander> paulej72, as a note, I installed a fresh branch; you'll have to redeploy TMB's changes from src/slashcode
[18:44:57] <paulej72> I did that,
[18:46:52] <Blackmoore> oh ICK.
[18:47:27] <Blackmoore> Editors - please fix the title on my last submission.. I really should have caught the garbage chars.
[18:48:03] <Bytram|afk> Blackmoore: I'm on it.
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[18:50:15] <Blackmoore> thank you!
[18:54:50] <Bytram|afk> Blackmoore: Edit complete... EXCEPT need a "dept" for it.
[18:55:00] * Bytram|afk ponders
[18:59:32] <Bytram|afk> done.
[18:59:42] Bytram|afk is now known as Bytram|away
[18:59:55] <Bytram|away> gtg work; might be back later tonight.
[18:59:59] <Bytram|away> have fun everyone!
[19:00:55] <Bytram|away> http://feeds.arstechnica.com
[19:00:56] <monopoly> └ 03Facebook threatened with contempt for fighting NY over user privacy | Ars Technica: Social networking site was gagged from telling 381 users about the NY data grab. ( http://arstechnica.com )
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[19:12:20] <paulej72> NCommander: I verified that dibx::password will work with mysql_enable_utf8 in attributes. What is currently not working is replying to commemnt with utf-8. Repling to the story works.
[19:14:40] <paulej72> OK when replying to a comment that has utf-8 in it, the utf-8 in the reply gets mangled.
[19:16:06] <NCommander> paulej72, cool, that will make the upgrade script for DBIx::Password work in case we have to add new users
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[19:27:26] * stderr goes full nerd rage on /.
[19:28:07] <NCommander> stderr, got betaed?
[19:28:15] <stderr> http://linux.slashdot.org
[19:28:16] <monopoly> └ 03Exploiting Wildcards On Linux/Unix - Slashdot ( http://slashdot.org )
[19:28:30] <stderr> No, just idiots who don't know shit...
[19:29:28] <NCommander> stderr, yeah, we took the smart people :-)
[19:31:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Streaming Technology is Probably Saving the Music Industry - http://sylnt.us - slowly-changing
[19:31:52] <NCommander> stderr, ow, brain, ow
[19:31:58] <NCommander> rm *.* is just wrong in five different ways
[19:32:51] <stderr> But not at all as dangerous as it sounds.
[19:34:35] <stderr> It's not hard to come up with an example where rm *.* would make sense.
[19:35:25] <NCommander> Eh, ok, I'll give you that one
[19:35:26] <stderr> You got a bunch of files: foo, bar.c, baz.h, qux.tex, fred.jpg, barney.gif... You want to delete all of them except "foo" => rm *.*
[19:44:47] <stderr> http://linux.slashdot.org That's it! I quit!
[19:44:51] <monopoly> └ 03Exploiting Wildcards On Linux/Unix - Slashdot ( http://slashdot.org )
[19:47:12] <NCommander> stderr, ?, it seems like a legitimate question, I remember asking one like it to myself several years ago
[19:48:31] <stderr> The userid suggests it's someone who have been around for a while.
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[19:52:46] <NCommander> stderr, might be a windows user
[19:52:53] * NCommander has a post going up about site statistics in a bit
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[20:21:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SoylentNews Site Stats: June 27th, 2014 - http://sylnt.us - finally-an-NCommander-post-with-<1k-words!
[20:26:04] <Blackmoore> I think the larger number of win7 users are browsing from work.
[20:26:34] * Woods points to himself
[20:30:13] <Blackmoore> i is too
[20:30:55] <Blackmoore> and i try never to touch win after i leave work. all the systems at the house are linux
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[20:59:46] <Blackmoore> well i'm stuck in an office on a line with no name; in the office; you can always feel pain ; cause thier ain't no time to get up and complain.. nah nah, nah, nahnahnah, nah nah, nah nah...
[21:07:45] <Blackmoore> Woods: still interested in a solent gathering?
[21:08:30] <Woods> Blackmoore: Depends on where it is.
[21:17:04] <Blackmoore> I'll trow up a journal entry, see if anyone has a suggestion.
[21:20:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Discussion on Whether or not Smartphones are Computers - http://sylnt.us - time-to-bust-out-the-big-words
[21:21:03] <Blackmoore> *sigh*
[21:21:09] <Blackmoore> I can not type
[21:47:21] * NCommander decides to experiment with NNTP/INN
[22:00:12] <NCommander> Well, that worked
[22:00:23] * NCommander has a very basic server setup with three groups
[22:00:32] <NCommander> soylentnews.{mainpage,discuss,test}
[22:00:43] <kobach> it actually didnt
[22:00:51] <NCommander> ?
[22:01:06] <kobach> ?
[22:01:07] <kobach> hi
[22:01:19] <NCommander> hey kobach
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[22:18:20] <TK> Is visits analogous to unique individuals?
[22:39:51] <NCommander> Holy cow
[22:40:00] <NCommander> Scary query is scary
[22:40:01] <NCommander> select s.stoid,u.nickname,s.time,st.introtext,st.bodytext FROM stories AS s INNER JOIN story_text st ON s.stoid=st.stoid INNER JOIN users u ON s.uid = u.uid ORDER BY s.stoid ASC LIMIT
[22:40:07] * NCommander notes its going to get worse
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[23:01:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Preserving 120 Years of U.S. Cultural History - http://sylnt.us - I-wonder-if-they-ever-get-a-DMCA-takedown-notice?
[23:03:05] <Blackmoore> Preserving / Perversing?
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[23:23:07] <NCommander> what culture?
[23:28:27] <Blackmoore> yogurt.
[23:29:15] <chromas> and baysplosia
[23:30:45] <Blackmoore> and probably some kinds of yeast.
[23:30:55] <Blackmoore> http://waitbutwhy.com
[23:30:56] <monopoly> └ 03The Fermi Paradox - Wait But Why: Scientists estimate that there are over 100,000 intelligent alien civilizations in our galaxy alone—but we've never heard anything from any of them. Here are 13 pos...
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