#Soylent | Logs for 2014-06-21

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[00:12:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dice Kills Freecode nee Freshmeat - http://sylnt.us - dice-does-it-again
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[00:16:44] <kobach> soylentpoutine--
[00:16:44] <Bender> karma - soylentpoutine: -1
[00:17:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> poutine--
[00:17:08] <Bender> karma - poutine: -346
[00:17:46] <kobach> poutine--
[00:17:46] <Bender> karma - poutine: -347
[00:17:47] <kobach> sup TheMightyBuzzard
[00:18:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> digestion. just slightly over-fooded
[00:19:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> also, paulej72 says you lot should get to abuse my unicode mods on dev over the weekend.
[00:19:49] <arti> afternoon
[00:20:01] <arti> what did you eat buzzard?
[00:20:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> Kentucky Fried Rat
[00:20:18] <arti> lolol
[00:20:27] <arti> i don't eat there very frequently
[00:20:46] <arti> i enjoy fried stuff (like many people do) however
[00:20:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> wouldn't have been too much but late lunch and early dinner makes for extra stuffed me
[00:21:11] <arti> life is better on a full stomach
[00:21:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. going to top it off with some good scotch in a bit too.
[00:21:46] <arti> nice, what kind?
[00:22:03] <arti> i buy it about once a month, and make quick work of it
[00:22:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> Not sure but there's a high likelihood of Talisker
[00:22:23] * NCommander waves
[00:22:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, NCommander
[00:22:56] <arti> greetings NCommander
[00:24:44] * NCommander is somewhat of a mess :-/
[00:25:02] <arti> some women like dirty men
[00:25:06] <arti> also, some men
[00:25:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh hey, NCommander... if you guys really wanna try out unicode on dev make sure utf8 is set to 1 in the vars table. i guarantee it's broken if you set it to 0.
[00:26:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> still jonesing for a smoke or got the plague?
[00:32:45] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, jonesing for a smoke, but other things as well
[00:33:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> have you tried kicking something? never know, could help.
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[01:32:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Electric Hog - http://sylnt.us - silent-like-a-ninja
[01:45:07] <crutchy> coffee++
[01:45:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 270
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[01:48:04] <crutchy> g'day TheMightyLaptop
[01:48:11] <crutchy> g'day Subsentient
[01:48:16] <Subsentient> hi crisp
[01:48:17] <Subsentient> crutchy:
[01:48:22] <TheMightyLaptop> mornin to ya, crutchy
[01:48:23] <Subsentient> wow freecode is gone
[01:48:30] <Subsentient> I will miss it bitterly.
[01:48:45] <crutchy> has it turned into microsoft freecode (tm)?
[01:49:07] <Subsentient> No it's just gone
[01:49:10] <Subsentient> Dice shut it down
[01:49:24] <crutchy> bastards!
[01:49:27] <crutchy> dice--
[01:49:28] <Bender> karma - dice: -7
[01:49:30] <crutchy> dice--
[01:49:30] <Bender> karma - dice: -8
[01:49:34] <crutchy> dice--
[01:49:34] <Bender> karma - dice: -9
[01:50:07] * crutchy has nfi what freecode was, but now that its gone it is sorely missed
[01:50:09] <TheMightyLaptop> i dunno, i haven't used it really since it was freshmeat
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[02:29:31] <paulej72> hello all
[02:29:41] <juggs> hola paulej72
[02:30:11] <TheMightyLaptop> evenin
[02:30:15] <TheMightyLaptop> afk, gettin pie
[02:30:33] <paulej72> pie or “pie”
[02:30:55] <SpallsHurgenson> oh god, I was thinking the same thing. We're so sad :(
[02:31:35] <paulej72> if it was Ethanol would not have asked as I would have known the answer
[02:32:10] <SpallsHurgenson> what, he would say "pie" but in reality it would be pie?
[02:32:23] <SpallsHurgenson> (this conversation is getting confusing)
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[02:46:43] <TheMightyLaptop> the kind that actually tastes Good
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[02:51:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Peering Back to the Beginning of Time - http://sylnt.us - like-in-that-one-movie
[02:54:35] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: has there always been a README.utf8 file in the root of the slashcode?
[02:54:50] <TheMightyLaptop> must've been, wasn't me
[02:55:20] <TheMightyLaptop> definitely gonna have a look at it though after the weekend
[02:55:32] <paulej72> I am reading it now. We my find out we are all really stupid or hopfully that slash is really broken
[02:55:43] <paulej72> s/my/may/
[02:55:44] <SedBot> <paulej72> I am reading it now. We may find out we are all really stupid or hopfully that slash is really broken
[02:56:12] <TheMightyLaptop> i have issues with some of the filtering choices regardless
[02:56:24] <paulej72> agreeed
[02:56:52] <TheMightyLaptop> they did pretty draconian stripping on the subject line for instance
[02:58:18] <TheMightyLaptop> glad i did that in a branch though. if it turns out we don't need it it's easier to scrap.
[02:59:51] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: it is a very short doc and it just says to do things we already tried when getting utf8 working. but there my be a fix for DBIx::Password
[03:00:54] <TheMightyLaptop> hopefully there is but i tried putting the line the net said would enable it where we get the connection initially in our code and no joy
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[03:01:28] <TheMightyLaptop> easy to test though. make the mods and load the front page. if it works you get text, if not you get ?s
[03:03:08] <TheMightyLaptop> movie quote reminded me of /code: I've seen monkey shit fights at the zoo that were more organized than this.
[03:06:38] <TheMightyLaptop> and pie accomplished. nicotine and alcohol time.
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[03:36:56] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: DBIx::Password is the correct file to update. It is normally set up at install time and is only adjusted if adding multiple mysql servers
[03:37:52] <TheMightyLaptop> excellent
[03:39:38] <paulej72> what was the other one that needed ajusted?
[03:40:36] <TheMightyLaptop> HTML::PullParser I think it was. pretty sure it can be fixed in our code but i didn't want to spend the time.
[03:41:42] <TheMightyLaptop> was easier to add a decode that wouldn't do anything to non-unicode stuff than to trace it down.
[03:49:16] <TheMightyLaptop> The Replacements is just a good damned movie.
[04:07:59] <kobach> jowl++
[04:07:59] <Bender> karma - jowl: 6
[04:10:21] <SpallsHurgenson> <yawn>
[04:10:46] <juggler> sup balls hurgenson
[04:14:40] <arti> <chortle>
[04:14:53] * arti manifests libations
[04:15:02] <SpallsHurgenson> DRINK!
[04:15:18] <arti> yes igor.
[04:16:02] <SpallsHurgenson> GIRLS!
[04:21:48] <juggs> nmap++
[04:21:48] <Bender> karma - nmap: 1
[04:22:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wind Tower Could Generate Over 435 MWh - http://sylnt.us - insert-joke-about-politicians-and-hot-air-here
[04:23:35] <crutchy> g'day!
[04:23:58] <SpallsHurgenson> FECK!
[04:24:12] <juggs> g'day crotchy
[04:24:36] <crutchy> can't have libations and girls without adding daft punk
[04:24:52] <crutchy> and walking sticks that shoot people
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[04:25:43] <crutchy> g'day Bytram|away
[04:25:45] <SpallsHurgenson> that's what I call a party!
[04:26:03] <juggs> walking sticks don't shoot people, people do
[04:26:08] <juggs> I'll get my coat!
[04:26:22] <crutchy> coats that light up!
[04:26:37] * SpallsHurgenson takes his coat off
[04:26:41] <SpallsHurgenson> and his pants
[04:26:51] <SpallsHurgenson> 'cause that's what I call a party!
[04:26:54] <juggs> Definitely time to go
[04:27:08] <crutchy> aw
[04:27:14] <Bytram|away> crutchy: quick on the draw as always. My chat client hasn't even finished connecting to the channels and I already have my screen blinking and beeping!
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[04:28:07] <crutchy> how's tricks Bytram?
[04:28:43] <Bytram> ok. I'm trying to finish a first pass at reviewing the proposed Bylaws.
[04:28:55] * Bytram does not enjoy legalese!
[04:29:24] * crutchy is trying to get rid of some lingering weirdness in exec and was researching how to install services in charybdis but motivation waned
[04:29:33] <crutchy> wow yeah legalese sucks
[04:30:06] <crutchy> i'm still confused why bylaws are even needed for a website, not that i would/should know
[04:30:32] <crutchy> has SN got tou/privacy/copyright/disclaimer yet?
[04:30:36] * SpallsHurgenson assumes it is for the corporation and non-profit
[04:30:39] <juggs> Is this something NCommander has posted up for perusal?
[04:33:00] <Bytram> not generally available yet... there's not a lot of existing stuff to go on, and our wanting to be able to hold on-line meetings adds yet another wrinkle, so a few of us are going over it to get the worst of it straightened out.
[04:33:58] <Bytram> bylaws, as I understand it, are not needed for a website, but as soon as someone wants to donate/subscribe/etc. then there'd better be something in place to handle it all nice and proper and legal.
[04:34:38] <juggs> Why are online meetings a hurdle? Tele-conferencing is hardly a new concept. Maybe I missed the point
[04:36:10] <Bytram> in and of itself, it's not a hurdle, but it needs to be an officially sanctioned and enumerated means of communication as layed out in the bylaws.
[04:36:23] <Bytram> s/officially/explicitly/
[04:36:24] <SedBot> <Bytram> in and of itself, it's not a hurdle, but it needs to be an explicitly sanctioned and enumerated means of communication as layed out in the bylaws.
[04:37:44] <Bytram> I've only got another page or two to go, and am in hopes of finishing the review today. And I'd also like to get bed at a reasonable hour, too! =)
[04:37:49] <Bytram> back in a bit!
[04:38:05] <juggs> Sounds like bureaucracy gone mad when one gets to the point of explicitly enumerating means of communication
[04:38:33] <juggs> or possibly paranoia
[04:38:59] <Bytram> when you're dealing with one of the largest bureaucracies in the world (US government, and the states, as well), one doesn't have much choice. :/
[04:39:02] <Bytram> ok, back in a bit.
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[04:44:58] <juggs> I hadn't considered that - that's my little islander perspective creeping out.
[04:45:51] <TheMightyLaptop> nite folks
[04:45:58] <juggs> night
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[04:50:06] <crutchy> juggs, me neither.... i don't think it would be a big deal in australia
[04:50:39] <arti> big deel
[04:51:11] <crutchy> as long as there's a drop bears clause we're all good here :-P
[04:51:36] <arti> you need to defeat a giant one, 33m tall, lasers and stuff
[04:52:02] <crutchy> we have armies of kangaroos and wombats for that
[04:52:20] <crutchy> anzaks
[04:52:26] <arti> bless you
[04:52:41] <crutchy> and anzaws¿
[04:52:51] <crutchy> lol
[04:53:10] <crutchy> kinda sounds like a sneeze
[04:53:50] <arti> then just loop it on every interaction, like vintage zelda games
[04:54:26] <juggs> An ex of mine took up a role as general manager for a scooter manufacturer when they expanded operations to the US, moving from UK to US in the process. She's effin haggard now - apparently dealing with each US state is akin to dealing with individual countries, so it was like setting up business in 50 countries simultaneously. The paperwork burden is phenomenal.
[04:54:45] <crutchy> never played zelda, but i remember it had some nice music (my brother had it on N64)
[04:55:03] <arti> yeah it's almost like the country is made up of states
[04:55:10] <crutchy> almost
[04:55:26] <juggs> well it is
[04:55:54] <crutchy> its made up of pretend countries each trying to take over the world
[04:56:02] <arti> crutchy, not take over, free.
[04:56:17] * arti whips crutchy with a red vine
[04:56:32] <arti> Corn Syrup attack
[04:56:49] <juggs> I don't think she quite appreciated what was involved having resided on a rocky north atlantic outcrop up until that point
[04:59:02] <arti> what was it like when she saw the sun for the first time?
[04:59:43] <arti> https://www.youtube.com ?
[04:59:43] <monopoly> └ 9Blade II Ending - YouTube
[05:04:13] <juggs> ho de ho. We do occasionally see the sun on this emerald isle :P
[05:04:48] <arti> do you find it with a sun stone?
[05:05:14] <juggs> mostly just look up
[05:05:35] <arti> that's crazy talk
[05:07:13] <juggs> only for those affected by kyphosis
[05:07:42] * arti offers butterscotch candies
[05:07:52] <arti> they're individually sealed, for your pleasure
[05:08:14] <Bytram|busy> well. that's finally finished. At least the first pass; will need to take another look after corrections. I can't wait. O_o
[05:08:24] * juggs eyes them suspiciously. You probably resealed them after tainting them :/
[05:09:12] <Bytram|busy> juggs: Nah, he prolly just gave 'em a taste to make sure they were okay; THEN he wrapped 'em up for ya!
[05:09:16] <arti> they were smuggled into the country through human mules
[05:09:27] <Bytram|busy> can't be TOO safe, ya know!
[05:09:27] <arti> the candy smuggling business is booming
[05:09:37] <Bytram|busy> Sweet!
[05:09:58] <juggs> oooh - like rare coffee beans - everything is pricey if it's been pre-digested and shat out already
[05:10:46] <Bytram|busy> well, time for me to get some shuteye. Nice to "see" ya all here!
[05:10:51] <Bytram|busy> G'night everyone!
[05:11:01] <juggs> night
[05:12:58] <crutchy> night
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[05:13:17] <arti> nite bed bugs, bites etc.
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[05:19:57] <SirFinkus> We're sorry. We are unable to retrieve more tracking details for this shipment. fucking ups
[05:20:05] <arti> Fucking Ups
[05:20:12] <SirFinkus> how am I supposed to f5 that?
[05:22:39] <juggs> a.k.a it's gone missing, we've no idea where it is. we may find it behind some sorting machinery in a few months time or maybe it was stolen. tough shit, sort it out with the sender.
[05:22:57] <SirFinkus> yeah, a bit worried
[05:23:15] <juggs> Or more likely, some server is out of action temporarily
[05:23:21] <SirFinkus> through amazon though, so I'm sure I'll get my money back if theres a problem
[05:25:11] <juggs> Yep, never had a problem with amazon thus far. Although they are becoming a little all consuming for my likes.
[05:30:07] <crutchy> never got into online shopping
[05:30:44] * crutchy offers some tomato pasta soup to arti
[05:30:56] <arti> sweet, can i keep the bowl?
[05:31:54] * crutchy is having difficulty fitting the bowl in the tubes.... tries gzipping it
[05:32:33] <SpallsHurgenson> no. uharc!
[05:32:41] <arti> tar it up
[05:32:51] <arti> or just beam the recipe and i'll replicate it
[05:32:56] <arti> er, compile it
[05:33:25] <crutchy> if you untar a bowl that has been gzipped, does it turn into a plate?
[05:34:14] <crutchy> hopefully not one with dog dirt
[05:35:13] <crutchy> went a bit crazy with the italian herbs
[05:37:27] <crutchy> arti, did you catch a glimpse of my latest monstrosity?
[05:39:28] <arti> uh no, what the what what
[05:39:40] <arti> does it make other bots now?
[05:39:43] <juggs> it's interesting that soylent channels keep cycling through culinary topics. are we a bunch of gourmets or gourmands?
[05:39:58] <arti> pretty surprising we all enjoy eating
[05:40:07] <arti> well except for skinny pete
[05:40:40] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org
[05:40:41] <monopoly> └ 9SoylentNews Comments | House Votes 293-123 to Cut Funding for NSA Spying on Americans.
[05:40:47] <juggs> I heard he's a psychopath
[05:40:49] <crutchy> poor skinny pete
[05:41:26] * crutchy offers skinny pete some raspberry liquorice
[05:41:42] * arti trades pete slimfast
[05:42:22] <arti> seems someone disagrees with you
[05:43:28] <crutchy> thats ok
[05:43:45] <arti> no, they must agree or be silenced!
[05:44:17] <SpallsHurgenson> YES!
[05:45:10] <crutchy> s/YES/I LIKE PANTS!/
[05:45:29] <crutchy> ¿
[05:45:43] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson: s/YES/I LIKE PANTS!/
[05:45:51] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson: s/YES/I LIKE PANTS!/
[05:45:52] <SedBot> <crutchy> <SpallsHurgenson> I LIKE PANTS!!
[05:47:53] <SpallsHurgenson> never!
[05:48:59] <crutchy> pants++
[05:48:59] <Bender> karma - pants: 2
[05:49:09] <crutchy> !whoup pants
[05:49:09] <Bender> uppers of pants are: crutchy: 2
[05:49:25] <crutchy> lol have i had this conversation once before?
[05:53:50] <SirFinkus> pants--
[05:53:50] <Bender> karma - pants: 1
[05:53:59] <crutchy> gathp!
[05:54:50] <crutchy> ~flood pants++
[05:56:23] <crutchy> hmm is there anyone holding the fort for xlefay?
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[05:57:17] <juggs> what fort?
[05:58:40] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm more worried about why we need a fort
[05:59:01] * SpallsHurgenson stares nervously into the darkness, wondering what is out there... and how many teeth it has
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[06:00:58] <crutchy> here thar be monsters
[06:00:59] <SpallsHurgenson> eeeeeep! there it is!
[06:01:05] <crutchy> lol
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[06:01:43] * arti wants refills on said soup
[06:01:47] <chromatos> Shaggy already died
[06:01:58] <arti> he had a good run
[06:02:11] <crutchy> arti: s/run/shag/
[06:02:11] <SedBot> <crutchy> <arti> he had a good shag
[06:02:44] <SirFinkus> those fucking metal bars in large keyboard keys are the worst thing in the world
[06:03:10] <crutchy> even worserer than pants?
[06:03:14] <SirFinkus> yes
[06:03:22] <SirFinkus> bullshitmetalkeyboardkeybrackets--
[06:03:22] <Bender> karma - bullshitmetalkeyboardkeybrackets: -1
[06:03:53] <crutchy> i think you can get antivirus definitions for those
[06:05:55] * juggs wonders - is there a var is slash code for that "Only N submissions in the queue" or does it always say "Only". It's going to look a bit silly if it ever states "Only 123534 submissions in the queue"
[06:06:42] <crutchy> there's probably a few thousand lines dedicated to it
[06:07:13] <crutchy> its probably also duplicated in templates and the database, just to be sure to bee sure
[06:07:59] <crutchy> and the result is probably computed by crapd
[06:08:08] <crutchy> s/ccrapd/slashd/
[06:08:18] <crutchy> yeah that
[06:09:09] <juggs> well why do it one line if 1000 will do - throw some heuristics in the mix just because it can be done
[06:09:41] <crutchy> its controlled by job_security.pm
[06:11:22] <juggs> my bs_deobfuscation.pm calls your job_security.pm
[06:12:36] <SirFinkus> damn, I think I broke one of the little bullshit metal clip retaining thingies
[06:12:50] <crutchy> problem solvered then :-P
[06:13:01] <crutchy> if it works, break it :-)
[06:16:39] <juggs> SirFinkus, why are you dismembering a keyboard?
[06:16:53] <SirFinkus> got a few drops of soda in some of the keys
[06:17:07] <arti> "some for my homies"
[06:17:12] <SirFinkus> they one I broke is a big fat enter key
[06:17:23] <juggs> oh, nothing important then
[06:17:40] <SirFinkus> yeah, I never use the enter key
[06:17:46] <juggs> :D
[06:18:16] <SirFinkus> it still works, it just misaligns sometime
[06:18:17] <SirFinkus> s
[06:18:48] <SirFinkus> guess I'm going to need to spend $10 on a new keycap :/
[06:20:07] <juggs> in future... dishwasher cycle (with no soap - that tends to remove the letters)... leave to dry a few days... sorted. So much easier than taking things apart with spring clips and retainers pinging off all over the place.
[06:21:16] <SirFinkus> well, it's a laptop
[06:22:26] <juggs> so? keyboard is only attached by a few screws and a ribbon.... obviously putting the whole laptop in the dishwasher would be problematic
[06:23:03] <SirFinkus> lol mbp
[06:23:11] <crutchy> or leave it. even keyboards need the odd soda treat
[06:23:16] <juggs> you have my condolences
[06:23:40] <crutchy> ~define mbp
[06:23:42] <exec> [urbandictionary] mbp: Acronym for manbearpig
[06:23:50] <juggs> I presumed macbook pro
[06:26:17] <SirFinkus> presumed correctly
[06:26:45] <juggs> I understand they are somewhat non-trivial to disassemble - not that I have tried.
[06:28:15] <SirFinkus> the keycaps actually aren't that bad, I just didnt look it up first
[06:28:29] <SirFinkus> only expected one bar on the enter key
[06:30:15] <juggs> still, I suppose, if you remove the main battery and can get access to and remove the CMOS battery (presuming it's not had mounted) - then the whole thing could go in the washer and allowed to dry. It's not like electronics give a shit about water when they aren't powered.
[06:30:31] <juggs> s/had/hard/
[06:30:32] <SedBot> <juggs> still, I suppose, if you remove the main battery and can get access to and remove the CMOS battery (presuming it's not hard mounted) - then the whole thing could go in the washer and allowed to dry. It's not like electronics give a shit about water when they aren't powered.
[06:31:10] <SirFinkus> I'd be a little apprehensive about that
[06:31:24] <juggs> why?
[06:31:27] <SirFinkus> and at that point, its quicker to replace the keycap
[06:31:33] <SirFinkus> corrosion is still a thing
[06:32:05] <SirFinkus> and I don't know how that would interact with the thermal paste
[06:33:28] <juggs> well it would be quicker if you didn't break it, have to then order it online, wait for it to arrive and refit it :D
[06:34:11] <SirFinkus> that ship has sailed, and I still doubt it
[06:34:23] <SirFinkus> considering I'd have to let it dry for several days
[06:37:16] <juggs> I'm just messing. I wouldn't go near trying to do any kind of service activity on a mbp. My fear would be I pop off a keycap and the whole thing performs some ritual suicide sequence and ends up as a pile of ash.
[06:39:40] <SirFinkus> lol
[06:39:56] <crutchy> the old microsoft keyboards are easy too maintain
[06:39:56] <SirFinkus> I searched for new keycaps on amazon, and got this www.amazon.com/dp/B00HELD1JK
[06:39:58] <monopoly> └ 9Amazon.com: PetitQ Men's PQ22 C-Jock - Black/L: Adult Exotic Apparel Accessories: Clothing ( http://www.amazon.com )
[06:40:00] <SirFinkus> no idea why
[06:42:47] <juggs> must have confused Enter with CapsLock and come up with C-Lock.... well I can see how an algorithm could end up there... eventually
[06:43:02] <crutchy> my eyes! why did i not read the start of the title and assumed it was womens!
[06:43:06] <arti> pull your clock out
[06:52:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Former FCC Commissioner to Washington: "You Should be Ashamed of Yourself" - http://sylnt.us - reasons-the-political-class-should-be-ashamed
[06:55:13] <crutchy> ~comment pot call the kettle black much?
[06:56:23] <juggs> I have an ancient clackety Dell server keyboard that lives in a cupboard that I think I acquired at some point in the 90s when decommisioning a server for a client. Damn thing is indestructible, I swear it weighs about 3Kg. The most noisy thing you ever heard in use, but it's a hand fall back to have lying around. I'll miss PS/2 when it finally disappears.
[06:58:44] <crutchy> i know can get usb>ps2 but can you get ps2>usb adaptors?
[06:58:47] <juggs> I think it would probably serve well for home defence come to think of it.
[06:59:02] <crutchy> as a projectile?
[06:59:04] <juggs> Yes
[06:59:17] <juggs> as more of a hitting implement
[06:59:35] <juggs> it has a rather hefty steel backplane
[06:59:47] <crutchy> prolly would work as armor too
[06:59:56] <juggs> yup
[06:59:56] <swiss> our old ibm keyboard is A/T
[07:00:01] <swiss> i thnk that's what it's called
[07:00:52] <juggs> yup swiss - it is that old full size AT board type thing but with a PS/2 plug
[07:01:10] <swiss> we have the AT plug
[07:01:12] <swiss> 4 pin one
[07:01:16] <crutchy> can get AT>ps2 adaptors too
[07:01:25] <swiss> yeah
[07:01:31] <swiss> we have one, i just don't like buckling spring
[07:01:41] <swiss> and i don't like not having like 4-5 keys I actually use
[07:01:47] <swiss> like the super key (windows)
[07:02:12] <crutchy> hmm doesn't do anything though
[07:02:19] <juggs> crutchy, yes you can get ps2>usb - I am typing via one now - but they don't translate some keys well for some locales.
[07:02:54] <swiss> crutchy: it does when i use it as a keybind
[07:03:22] <juggs> I have to use AltGr-thatUpperLeft key to get a pipe for instance when using a UK layout in the OS
[07:04:08] <swiss> ew
[07:04:54] <arti> i'll just leave this right here https://www.youtube.com
[07:04:55] <monopoly> └ 9Cringe Comp 2: Sexy Surprise for Adult Vegans - YouTube
[07:05:06] <juggs> meh it's just double and triple shift - it's not a new phenomenon
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[07:17:57] <juggs> in archaic times it was not uncommon to double and triple shift to access different symbols via our boards, now it is more common to replace that with common unshifted symbols that in turn get interpreted by software &%33522 or whatever. Problem's the same, just the solution changed. The problem is fitting 1000+ characters on a 100 key keyboard.
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[07:19:51] <chromatos> Ctrl-alt-shift-meta-hyper-super Q
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[07:26:23] <juggs> something like that chromatos blight
[07:29:31] <chromatos> And emacs
[07:30:01] <juggs> somet6hing something vi
[07:33:22] <crutchy> something something something dark side
[07:33:52] <juggs> and.... it's gone
[07:35:21] <crutchy> its all gone
[07:40:27] <juggs> www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DT7bX-B1Mg
[07:40:28] <monopoly> └ 9And it's gone (original) - YouTube
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[08:02:03] <juggs> well that killed it
[08:02:15] <juggs> I guess it's a poly gone
[08:08:52] * pbnjoe groans
[08:10:58] <crutchy> ~define poly gone
[08:11:00] <exec> [urbandictionary] polygone: Explanation to a small child why the parrots cage is empty
[08:11:14] <juggs> it's an oldie - but you're still here and I'll be here all week.
[08:11:44] <juggs> I mistyped - it's actually a "polly gone"
[08:12:08] <juggs> dead parrot - monty python
[08:12:12] <crutchy> ~define dancing
[08:12:13] <exec> [urbandictionary] dancing: Formal term meaning: to move with unhindered grace around an area with the presence of another enjoying the same activity. Urban term: Humping someone in public Sad world isn't it.
[08:12:24] <crutchy> lol
[08:12:57] <juggs> lol
[08:14:26] <arti> that's pretty good
[08:14:36] <arti> as an aside: daggering
[08:15:02] <juggs> ~define daggering
[08:15:04] <exec> [urbandictionary] Daggering: This is a Dancehall.Mobi definition of a term or phrase that is popular in the dancehall and / or in the lyrics of Jamaican deejays and singers. What is daggering? Some call it “dry sex” on the da...
[08:17:53] <juggs> who knew - a new phrase for dry humping for the sexually repressed. We invented condoms for a reason - use them, it's fun.
[08:31:31] <juggs> I do puzzle on IRC. Here we are with 58 people in channel - OK we can drop that by a dozen for necessary admin bots and control freaks. So we have 66, in any given week, maybe 20 even 30 say something. That means there are ~30-40 voyeurs. What motivates that? Do they come to watch the monkeys at the circus? Perhaps it is a good reflection on reality, we all live our lives under the microscope of observation. And perhaps I'll say something meaningful
[08:31:32] <juggs> that has not already been said.
[08:32:08] <chromas> It's far fewer than we had in the beginning
[08:32:20] <arti> we were @ around 100
[08:32:47] <chromas> Also try some of the support channels on FreeNode. Some have hundreds and then someone comes in and doesn't get a reply
[08:35:43] <Popeidol> voyeurs++
[08:35:43] <Bender> karma - voyeurs: 1
[08:36:25] * SirFinkus lurks
[08:42:53] <crutchy> and then at the other end of the scale some apparently just won't shut up
[08:42:58] <crutchy> but its definitely not me :-P
[08:43:14] <chromas> con/con
[08:43:25] <juggs> strange times
[08:43:37] <chromas> at Soylent High
[08:43:39] <arti> good movie
[08:43:56] <Popeidol> I like to read throughout the week, and then sum up my opinion about everything in a single word response.
[08:43:59] <Popeidol> this week: lol
[08:44:30] <arti> a machine does that for a long time: 42
[08:44:45] <juggs> could you shorten that to 1 character?
[08:45:19] <Popeidol> y
[08:45:33] <juggs> good man
[08:45:45] <crutchy> can make v, l and > out of that
[08:46:13] <crutchy> you just invented a new compression algo
[08:46:22] <crutchy> randomzip
[08:46:23] <juggs> "Popeidol says 'y' to child abuse"
[08:46:35] <juggs> shock horror
[08:46:47] <Popeidol> you wait until I figure out unicode emoji
[08:46:51] <Popeidol> there'll be dog poop every week
[08:47:28] <juggs> oh but it will be symbolisim the whole way down
[08:47:34] <juggs> umm
[08:48:33] <juggs> yeh
[08:49:53] <crutchy> can make dog poop with two lines
[08:50:07] <arti> lines of what?
[08:50:12] <crutchy> using brail and cloudy
[08:50:26] * arti says cloudy with an aussie accent
[08:50:47] <crutchy> keloowdie
[08:51:01] <crutchy> hmm nah thats not right
[08:51:16] * juggs dessicates
[08:51:17] <arti> kloudi
[08:51:54] juggs is now known as juggs|afk
[09:01:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Study Shows Arctic Warming Linked to Fewer European and US Cold Weather Extremes - http://sylnt.us - more-warmth-means-less-cold
[09:06:17] <crutchy> one of the reasons why i made the irc script that comments on SN articles is that i thought it might connect the website and IRC together a bit more... get more people on IRC commenting on stories and drum up a bit of interest from people reading comments to hop onto IRC
[09:06:35] <crutchy> that was just my thinking anyway
[09:06:51] <arti> does it scrape the story?
[09:06:53] <crutchy> would probably need to limit it to nickserv accounts
[09:07:02] <arti> then dig through an pull out divs by ids?
[09:07:07] <crutchy> nah
[09:07:13] <crutchy> nothing that fancy
[09:07:37] <Popeidol> it often reminds me to check the site
[09:08:07] <crutchy> in a nutshell, when bender spits out a feed link that story becomes 'active' and you can send a comment to tfa from irc
[09:08:21] <arti> really
[09:08:22] <crutchy> just using ~comment blah blah blah
[09:08:36] <arti> so like how does it authenticate you
[09:08:36] <crutchy> (only top level comment though)
[09:09:25] <crutchy> it posts like this: http://soylentnews.org
[09:09:26] <monopoly> └ 9SoylentNews Comments | House Votes 293-123 to Cut Funding for NSA Spying on Americans.
[09:10:35] <crutchy> there's a few steps involved
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[09:10:57] <arti> aaah
[09:10:59] <arti> it posts by exec
[09:11:01] <crutchy> https://github.com
[09:11:11] <arti> as exec, sorry
[09:11:18] <crutchy> yeah. i don't touch password shit
[09:11:37] <crutchy> well other peoples password shit
[09:11:37] <arti> it builds character
[09:12:28] <crutchy> though if slashcode had some kind of link to nickserv it might work to post as yourself
[09:12:43] <arti> privmsg("program borked (error code: 1)");
[09:12:56] <crutchy> but i thought it might be good to make it obvious that it came from irc anyway
[09:13:09] <crutchy> lol yeah its pretty rouhg
[09:13:20] <arti> hey dude, you made it
[09:13:55] <crutchy> lol i'm a bit rough :-P
[09:14:36] <arti> i think the missus prefers that trait
[09:15:40] <crutchy> lol
[09:15:58] <crutchy> unfortunately not atm
[09:16:22] <crutchy> shes got very sore back
[09:16:28] <arti> just give her massages with some testosterone cream
[09:16:35] <crutchy> ew
[09:17:08] <arti> zwei fliegen mit einer klappe schlagen
[09:17:35] * arti wiggles the idiom wand
[09:18:23] <crutchy> we need a bender rss feed thing for the dev server, prolly in #dev
[09:19:03] <crutchy> was asked to keep testing of irrc comment thing off prod but not sure how to do that cos it uses bender feed
[09:19:43] <chromas> Better get on that feed reader
[09:19:54] <crutchy> lol true
[09:20:05] <arti> feed reader... feedeader feedereader
[09:20:19] <crutchy> getting a nice little set of lib tools now
[09:20:39] <arti> soon you'll be a level 3 code monkey
[09:20:40] <crutchy> the more of this jiggery pokery i get into the more little util functions get made
[09:20:41] <chromas> mail time mail time ale time
[09:22:07] <crutchy> dale sat on a whale to inhale some snail while the shale was frail and a pail was needed to bail from this tale
[09:22:38] <chromas> whaletail++
[09:22:38] <Bender> karma - whaletail: 1
[09:22:41] <chromas> ^ sometimes
[09:23:10] <arti> fischers fritz fischt frische fische, frische fische fischt fischers fritz
[09:23:16] <chromas> walmart_whaletail--
[09:23:16] <Bender> karma - walmart_whaletail: -1
[09:23:30] * crutchy was beatboxing to the sesame street theme.. oh yeah :-P
[09:24:00] <crutchy> nah not really
[09:24:34] <crutchy> my kids are into total dramarama now.... sometimes i wish they still liked sesame street
[09:24:52] <chromas> Make them watch Rocko's Modern Life
[09:25:05] <crutchy> haha i used to watch that
[09:25:28] <chromas> it's on Netflix; not sure what countries that works in
[09:25:48] <crutchy> it was on tv here when i was a kid
[09:25:55] <chromas> Yeah
[09:25:59] <chromas> Nickelodeon++
[09:25:59] <Bender> karma - nickelodeon: 1
[09:26:17] <crutchy> i think it was on southern cross ten
[09:26:26] * crutchy has never had pay tv
[09:31:36] <arti> rocko's modern life
[09:31:47] * arti recalls the spleen episode
[09:31:54] <arti> takes it to the amusement park and then it departs
[09:32:35] * crutchy wonders if rocko inspired invader zim
[09:33:21] <chromas> Jhonen Vasquez still makes stuff
[09:33:46] <chromas> http://www.questionsleep.com
[09:33:49] <monopoly> └ 9QUESTION SLEEP | sit a spell, be gently shrieked at
[09:39:53] <crutchy> wtf http://www.questionsleep.com
[09:40:16] <arti> that's some klingon
[09:43:27] <crutchy> oohh yay!!! http://www.questionsleep.com
[09:47:55] <crutchy> comicon prolly more popular after the big bang theory episode when they tried to go to one
[09:48:11] <arti> that thing is already packed
[09:48:14] <arti> linecon
[09:49:42] <crutchy> far queue
[09:49:59] <arti> windeed
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[10:08:02] <arti> crutchy: https://www.youtube.com
[10:08:02] <monopoly> └ 9Holy Ghost VS Pendulum & MC GQ - Baptazia part 2 - YouTube
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[11:29:43] <chromas> Bender?
[11:29:49] <chromas> it's been a couple hours
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[12:11:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Major Newspaper Dumps George Will, Apologizes For Offensive Rape Column - http://sylnt.us - River-City-Ransom
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[12:38:47] <crutchy> caramel_popcorn++
[12:38:47] <Bender> karma - caramel_popcorn: 1
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[13:20:02] <crutchy> g'day randmcnatt
[13:20:33] <randmcnatt> *yawn* mornin' crutchy
[13:20:43] <crutchy> cofffee++
[13:20:43] <chromas> Bender: s/mn/mbine/
[13:20:43] <Bender> karma - cofffee: 1
[13:20:50] <crutchy> oops
[13:20:55] <crutchy> too much coffee maybe
[13:20:58] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:20:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 271
[13:21:40] <crutchy> Bender: s/Dumps/Takes A Dump On/
[13:21:47] <crutchy> ah crap
[13:22:11] * crutchy goes back to php
[13:22:14] <chromas> this it not the Unix way—we need a single bot for each task
[13:22:41] <chromas> and then they need to be able to pipe messages through each other
[13:34:16] <Popeidol> you need several layers of bots
[13:34:40] <Popeidol> one daemon that handles the bot-to-irc interface and abstracts it
[13:34:50] <Popeidol> then you need some that handle the different kinds of logic
[13:35:40] <Popeidol> and text processing, data input/output via various methods, etc
[13:35:51] <Popeidol> and then each actual bot can be reduced to a simple script
[13:36:19] <crutchy> Popeidol: that's kinda what exec is
[13:36:54] <crutchy> irc.php > irc shit, cmd.php > irc events, and a bunch of other scripts
[13:37:22] <crutchy> the irc bot executes each script in its own process
[13:37:23] <Popeidol> well then
[13:37:34] <Popeidol> you're right
[13:37:46] <Popeidol> the only thing remaining is to isolate each task to a single bot
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[13:50:45] <crutchy> hi Konomi
[13:51:05] <crutchy> err... hi konomi's auto-reconnect :-P
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[14:23:39] <SirFinkus> To create your password enter 6 to 10 characters, without spaces. There should be at least one letter and one number.
[14:23:41] <SirFinkus> hate
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[14:27:02] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v Bytram|away] by juggler
[14:27:06] <crutchy> and it must start with "mypas"
[14:27:12] <crutchy> g'day Bytram|away
[14:27:44] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[14:27:56] <Bytram> g'day
[14:28:40] <Bytram> Story queue looked a little light, so I thought I'd pop in and see if I could find something... how's things for you?
[14:29:27] <crutchy> workin on feeds
[14:29:30] <crutchy> script
[14:30:35] <Bytram> best of luck to ya!
[14:30:41] <crutchy> after finished testing in #~ i was thinking about maybe joining exec into #rss-bot (as long as juggs is ok with another bot spamming in there)
[14:30:43] <Bytram> hmmm, this story might be interesting: http://phys.org
[14:30:46] <monopoly> └ 9Slowly rotating neutron star paired with a red-giant star reveals properties that conflict with existing theory ( http://phys.org )
[14:31:55] <crutchy> atm just working on link redirection function
[14:33:32] <crutchy> knife party thumping in my headphones is keeping brain awake
[14:34:16] <Bytram> great! Might want to include a limit on maximum number of redirections, or to stop redirections when the current link was previously encountered while redirecting.
[14:34:49] <crutchy> good idea
[14:34:53] <Bytram> knife - headphones - brain; doesn't sound like the *smartest* idea! ;)
[14:34:57] <crutchy> Bytram++
[14:34:57] <Bender> karma - bytram: 4
[14:35:33] <Bytram> thanks!
[14:36:01] <Bytram> I've got that outside-of-the-box type thinking pretty-well honed, lately.
[14:37:32] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[14:37:35] <monopoly> └ 9Knife Party - Centipede (only song)[eliminated introduction] - YouTube
[14:38:27] <crutchy> sounds much better with some dsp though :-P
[14:38:30] <Bytram> is it available someplace other than under the googleplex?
[14:39:03] <crutchy> dunno. i got it as an mp3
[14:39:13] * Bytram has been avoiding the goog lately unless he has no alternative
[14:41:40] <Konomi> crutchy: net died while I was out apparently ;p
[14:42:23] <crutchy> :-)
[14:42:33] <crutchy> how are you?
[14:48:37] <crutchy> Bytram: what do you think of being able to comment on the last SN article from irc?
[14:49:07] <Bytram> curious; what are you suggesting?
[14:49:35] <crutchy> this was something i blurted out earlier:
[14:49:37] <crutchy> "one of the reasons why i made the irc script that comments on SN articles is that i thought it might connect the website and IRC together a bit more... get more people on IRC commenting on stories and drum up a bit of interest from people reading comments to hop onto IRC"
[14:50:01] <Bytram> thinking...
[14:50:19] * Bytram dons his Devil's Advocate cap
[14:50:36] <crutchy> a very important cap indeed :-P
[14:51:01] <Bytram> so, what's to stop me from spamming soylent news from IRC?
[14:51:43] <Bytram> another thought, it's hard to *read* the article from IRC, so I would suspect that any commentary would be, ummm, "uninformed speculation"?
[14:52:08] <Bytram> the concept sounds quite intriguing, but I'm not sure that it would be a win in the long run.
[14:52:20] <crutchy> i was thinking of limiting to nickserv accounts, and the way the script works atm SN wouldn't permit spamming
[14:52:21] * Bytram doffs D/A cap
[14:52:44] <crutchy> lol yeah prolly would be knee jerk reactions to the title from bender
[14:53:06] <SirFinkus> make a separate channel, the bot posts the summary, and people comment on it by messaging the bot
[14:53:16] <Bytram> nickserv accounts? Meaning only people who have ... what?
[14:53:20] <SirFinkus> bot forwards messages to the channel, and assigns an id
[14:53:29] <Bytram> aren't folks pretty much anonymous here, anyway?
[14:53:30] <SirFinkus> you can interact by messaging the bot
[14:53:30] <crutchy> just thought maybe even knee jerk reactions may trigger some discussion or flames
[14:53:41] <SirFinkus> reply 6555 blah blah you're stupid blah blah
[14:53:53] <SirFinkus> mod 6555 +1 insightful
[14:53:55] <SirFinkus> etc
[14:54:16] <crutchy> scripts can be configured to run only if an irc user is registered and identified with nickserv
[14:54:28] <SirFinkus> although it would be pretty hard to track the comment flow from irc
[14:54:31] <crutchy> and is listed in an authentication list
[14:54:39] <crutchy> true
[14:54:46] <crutchy> atm only comments at top level
[14:54:51] <SirFinkus> it'd be neat though
[14:55:09] <Bytram> UI considerations; how would you comment in a thread? Wouldn't this spam the top-level comments?
[14:55:18] <crutchy> it posts like this: http://soylentnews.org
[14:55:19] <monopoly> └ 9SoylentNews Comments | House Votes 293-123 to Cut Funding for NSA Spying on Americans.
[14:55:57] <SirFinkus> no
[14:56:00] <crutchy> btw this is currently disabled :-)
[14:56:04] <SirFinkus> you message the bot to comment
[14:56:26] <SirFinkus> the bot assigns an id to every comment, and relays the comments to the news channel or w/e
[14:56:28] <crutchy> ~comment blah blah blah
[14:56:37] <SirFinkus> then you can reply to the comment by specifying the id
[14:56:51] <crutchy> could do that
[14:57:08] <SirFinkus> it'd get messy with multiple stories and threads
[14:57:11] <crutchy> atm it gets tfa from bender's last feed
[14:57:18] <Bytram> unfortunately, SN conflates the STORY title with the title given in the COMMENT.
[14:57:43] <crutchy> there are two sid's if that's what you mean?
[14:57:52] <Bytram> SirFinkus++ # Yup, aforelong you'd be implementing the entire SN UI in your bot. :(
[14:57:52] <Bender> karma - sirfinkus: 1
[14:58:16] <SirFinkus> well, I won't be writing it lol, just spitballing
[14:58:35] * Bytram notices that SirFinkus sounds like Surfin' Cuss
[14:58:37] <SirFinkus> it doesn't really work in irc
[14:59:10] <crutchy> sometimes there is a bit of chit chat about an article when bender posts the feed
[14:59:30] <SirFinkus> could do something waveish maybe
[14:59:41] <crutchy> this was merely a way to forward that chit chat to the comments
[14:59:45] <Bytram> yeah, it's an intriguing coding puzzle, but the potential for abuse is limited if it is ALL done from within IRC
[14:59:52] <SirFinkus> ahh, idea
[15:00:09] <SirFinkus> so, separate the chat and comments
[15:00:24] <SirFinkus> just have a box that says "last x irc comments on this story"
[15:00:24] <Bytram> crutchy: Don't get me wrong, I think you've got a great *concept* to try and pull the IRC commentary into the SN discussion.
[15:00:40] <crutchy> it''s functional: https://github.com
[15:00:45] <Bytram> just not so sure about oing it all within IRC.
[15:00:55] <SirFinkus> you get in the box by appending an id to your irc message
[15:00:55] <crutchy> (just disableed atm)
[15:01:06] <crutchy> no id needed
[15:01:11] <Bytram> crutchy: Yeah, I think I saw one of your IRC-generated comments appear on SN
[15:01:19] <SirFinkus> well, you would
[15:01:24] * Bytram has an id AND an ego!
[15:01:28] <Bytram> =)
[15:01:28] <SirFinkus> otherwise bullshit like this would show up in the box
[15:01:43] <Bytram> SirFinkus++
[15:01:43] <Bender> karma - sirfinkus: 2
[15:02:16] <SirFinkus> or just have a stories channel, and cut off irc discussion when a new story is posted
[15:02:33] <crutchy> atm it needs a trigger
[15:02:42] <crutchy> to post comment
[15:02:54] <crutchy> ~comment
[15:03:05] * Bytram that's a horse of a different color (trigger)
[15:04:39] <Bytram> crutchy: I'm not entirely against it, in fact I think there *IS* something great here... just need to think it through VERY carefully, is all.
[15:04:42] <SirFinkus> just pipe unescaped raw irc comments to the bottom of the story's page
[15:04:43] <crutchy> if everyone prefixed their irc message with ~comment (and were identified and authorized to use the command) the comments for an article could add up, but i guess the question is if that is good or bad
[15:05:26] <crutchy> i guess if everyone was posting goat.cx links it would be bad
[15:05:40] <Bytram> also, there is the question about how to handle/implement threading...
[15:06:03] <crutchy> yeah atm there is no threading
[15:06:29] <Bytram> could do something based on my using your nick in my comment, but...
[15:06:54] <Bytram> ~comment crutchy: I think your idea has merit.
[15:07:14] <crutchy> but the bot could keeep track of irc comments and if you type something like "~comment Bytram, i think you're right" the bot could tack it to the end of Bytram's last comment posting
[15:07:36] <Bytram> but that can get interesting when you post something in between the time of the comment I am referring to and when I actually hit enter and send in my comment.
[15:08:09] <Bytram> we humans just go, hmm?, oH! and move right along with it.
[15:08:40] <Bytram> I've seen two, even three, threads going on simultaneously between two people on IRC. =)
[15:08:55] <crutchy> could get messy
[15:09:03] <SirFinkus> really, I think the best option is just pulling quotes from irc and putting that in another box
[15:09:29] <Bytram> that, and with NO syntactical clue as to which thread is being discussed; was purely semantically-based.
[15:10:31] <crutchy> if two people are having an irc discussion about tfa, and they are triggering comment posting, the bot would prolly just treat it like they were replying to each other's comments
[15:10:37] <crutchy> ^not implemented yet
[15:10:55] <Bytram> maybe, an interface that grabs the intended comment, and brings up a comment box on SN preloaded with "pertinent info"? You'd still need to hit submit, but it could give better context, and reduce the amount of impulsiveness that otherwise might occur????
[15:11:08] <crutchy> if they wanted to start a new thread it might need some kind of separate trigger
[15:11:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Is Bankruptcy Imminent for Radio Shack? - http://sylnt.us - Viva-la-Resistors!
[15:11:18] <Bytram> afk, back in about 5-10 miinutes
[15:11:22] <crutchy> lol impulse is good :-)
[15:11:27] <crutchy> mkay
[15:13:05] * crutchy copies some of these ideas to a comment at the top of the script
[15:16:32] <Bytram> back
[15:16:46] <crutchy> regarding the impulse issue, as its designed atm comment posting from irc would be more limited as all posting is performed by a single SN user (exec), so its limited by the normal posting frequency rules of a SN user
[15:17:27] <crutchy> triggering comment posting too quickly would return an error same as on SN
[15:17:28] <Bytram> crutchy: Wait a minute here... You've got a way to programmatically comment on an SN story? That could be *really* useful for running tests...
[15:17:31] <Bytram> how do you do it?
[15:17:55] <crutchy> the recipe is here: https://github.com
[15:18:18] <Bytram> ah, a PHP script... give me a few minutes.
[15:24:44] <Bytram> crutchy: so, if one comments through this interface, does it appear as a comment that THAT user submitted? IOW, will it appear on their comments page? e.g. http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:45] <monopoly> └ 9crutchy - SoylentNews User
[15:25:07] <Bytram> ok, I see a comment there... but the subject is not very, ummm, helpful. :/
[15:25:19] <Bytram> http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:20] <monopoly> └ 9SoylentNews Comments | Hairyfeet's Gamer's Corner
[15:25:53] <Bytram> oops, looks like monopoly got confused.
[15:26:12] <crutchy> it posts like this: http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:13] <monopoly> └ 9SoylentNews Comments | House Votes 293-123 to Cut Funding for NSA Spying on Americans.
[15:26:55] <crutchy> would need extending to permit users posting from irc under their own name
[15:27:27] * crutchy is wary about coding anything requiring other people's passwords (why i use nickserv for authentication)
[15:27:38] <Bytram> the *comment*'s title is not so informative: "comment from #Soylent @ irc.sylnt.us"
[15:27:50] <crutchy> true
[15:28:14] <Bytram> one could argue that's an implementation detail, though. =)
[15:28:28] <crutchy> maybe an optional argument in the command trigger
[15:28:44] <crutchy> something like ~comment subject=something msg=blah
[15:29:05] <crutchy> i tried to keep it simple though
[15:29:34] <Bytram> Would not support imbedded spaces; how about: ~comment --subject=something --msg=blah
[15:29:55] <Bytram> or even: ~comment --subject="something" msg="blah"
[15:30:05] <Bytram> or even: ~comment --subject='something' msg='blah'
[15:30:21] <crutchy> i can parse either way
[15:30:32] <crutchy> or all :-P
[15:31:01] <crutchy> spaces aren't a problem
[15:31:13] <Bytram> So you could have: ~comment --subject="I don't think so!" --msg='I recently heard bob say "this is crazy!"'
[15:31:52] <Bytram> So you could have: ~comment --subject="I don't think thismsg is useful" --msg='I recently heard bob say "this subject is confusing."'
[15:32:01] <Bytram> So you could have: ~comment --subject="I don't think this msg is useful" --msg='I recently heard bob say "this subject is confusing."'
[15:32:03] <Bytram> ugh.
[15:32:24] <Bytram> note use of triggeer words in the value "fields"
[15:32:25] <crutchy> this would also be parseable: ~comment subject=I don't think so! msg=I recently heard bob say "this is crazy!"
[15:32:49] <Bytram> crutchy: see my last example.
[15:33:00] <crutchy> i would parse it using 'subject=' as the delimiter (with the equals)
[15:33:48] <crutchy> (could also strip spaces when looking for fieldname so that you could do 'subject ='
[15:33:53] <Bytram> So you could have: ~comment subject=I don't think having msg=something would work msg=something else
[15:34:02] <Bytram> ;)
[15:34:22] <crutchy> in that case the msg would prolly be parsed as 'something would work msg=something else'
[15:34:35] <crutchy> (same as parsing trailing of irc lines)
[15:35:12] <Bytram> GNU has used the --argname[="value"] method for years and it has stood the test of time quite well.
[15:35:19] <crutchy> true
[15:35:31] <crutchy> could do that
[15:35:43] <crutchy> probably wouldn't hurt
[15:35:49] <Bytram> no need to re=invent the wheel, yanno? Build on the shoulders of others and all that. =)
[15:36:06] <Bytram> correction....
[15:36:33] <crutchy> i like reinventing wheels. that way if the wheels break i know how to fix them easier :-P
[15:36:35] <Bytram> GNU has used the --argname[={value|"value"}] method for years and it has stood the test of time quite well.
[15:36:43] <Bytram> wheely?
[15:36:55] <crutchy> lol
[15:37:19] <crutchy> my whole bot is an exercise in reinvention of wheels :-P
[15:37:32] <Bytram> hold on, I've got 50 tabs open in FF and running low on memory. :/
[15:38:23] <crutchy> i run low on memory all the time... sometimes my pyewta does too but thankfully not as often
[15:38:33] <Bytram> LOL!
[16:02:05] <Bytram> crutchy: Took a quick pass through your code. Nice.
[16:02:30] <Bytram> One observation, though... I'm not at all certain that template ID numbers are constant. :/
[16:03:22] <crutchy> mkay there that bit was kinda thrown together a bit
[16:03:30] <crutchy> s/there/yeah/
[16:03:30] <SedBot> <crutchy> mkay yeah that bit was kinda thrown together a bit
[16:04:14] <Bytram> methinks that they are "autogenerated" when the slash code/db/whatevah is loaded
[16:04:54] <crutchy> ah
[16:05:05] <Bytram> ISR running into this same problem when trying to write my own page-scraping code to do automated testing.
[16:05:13] <Bytram> s/ISR/ISTR/
[16:05:13] <SedBot> <Bytram> ISTR running into this same problem when trying to write my own page-scraping code to do automated testing.
[16:05:14] <crutchy> could look for other keywords/delimiters
[16:05:24] <crutchy> ISTR?
[16:06:03] <Bytram> I Seem To Recall
[16:06:16] <Bytram> eye seam two reek all
[16:06:19] <Bytram> =)
[16:06:20] <crutchy> lol i'm not up with some of this l33t speak :-P
[16:06:35] <crutchy> though am learning slowly
[16:06:38] * Bytram prefers the term l33t squeak
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[16:56:58] <Bytram> Hi monopoly! http://go.theregister.com
[16:56:59] <monopoly> └ 9VIDEO SELFIE DRONE: 'AirDog' UAV follows you everywhere you go • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[16:59:13] <crutchy> monopoly++
[16:59:13] <Bender> karma - monopoly: 2
[17:00:01] <crutchy> started testing my feeds thingy in #~ but atm all output is to screen
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[17:20:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Should I Allow a Google Camera in my Living Room? - http://sylnt.us - all-eyes-on-me
[17:26:34] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[17:26:36] <monopoly> └ 9KA-BOOOM! Boffins blow up mountain to make way for telescope • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[17:27:02] <Landon> people are too damn paranoid
[17:27:26] <Landon> _why would google/nest want video of your empty house?_
[17:27:37] <Landon> are they going to sell it to thieves so they can break in while you're gone?
[17:28:00] <Landon> put up ads "Click here to view frojack's house!"
[17:30:43] <Bytram> Landon: given the [lack of] security I've seen on the net, and especially wrt IoT devices, I'd rather not provide a hook for anyone else to take a look-see.
[17:31:16] <Landon> then you inherently don't trust the device
[17:31:18] <Landon> so the answer is apparent
[17:33:05] <Bytram> yup. I spent way too many years in QA. I know enough to not trust things blindly and willingly. I prefer to let others deal with the 1.0 and 2.0 versions.
[17:34:28] <Landon> yep, just need to figure out if it provides more utility to you than it costs (in all ways, not just price)
[17:34:38] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:34:45] <Landon> for a long time, I see the answer being No
[17:34:53] <Landon> wrt the internet of things
[17:35:32] <Landon> until they get a really attractive deal where it's built into the house before you buy it, completely wired up :)
[17:36:14] <Landon> but even then, I guess home security is fairly mature, but my parents had to rip out all of the stuff the previous homeowners had in because the company no longer exists and didn't use any standard tech
[17:36:52] <Bytram> as an incentive to build it into the house, there will be, no doubt, a kickback ^W discount to the builder. :/
[17:37:50] <Landon> hehe
[17:39:01] <Bytram> which the builder will pass on (in part) to the buyer, making the non-connected houses cost more to the buyer. :/
[17:40:08] <Landon> eh, that seems to be going a little far
[17:40:31] <Landon> but I suppose for subscription services it's feasible that they would pay money to have them install it
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[17:41:06] <Bytram> atm, I agree, but with time... look at all the bundled "crap-ware" on a windows box -- same idea, methinks.
[17:44:32] <Landon> now if you will excuse me
[17:44:36] <Landon> I must throw my money at steam
[17:44:45] <Bytram> by all means! have a great day!
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[17:58:06] <kobach> hi Bytram
[17:58:19] <Bytram> hi!
[17:58:21] <Bytram> bacon++
[17:58:21] <Bender> karma - bacon: 236
[17:58:27] <Bytram> coffee++
[17:58:27] <Bender> karma - coffee: 272
[17:58:31] <Bytram> LOL!
[17:59:16] <kobach> lol
[17:59:32] <kobach> someones had some caffeine this morning
[17:59:53] <Bytram> coffee isn't just for morning any more!
[18:03:38] <Bytram> Hmmm, this page will come in handy when testing UTF-8 support: https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:03:39] <monopoly> └ 9Unicode font - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[18:05:33] <Bytram> and this one, too: https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:14:39] <Bytram> !uid
[18:14:39] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4479, owned by Anonymous Coward (4479)
[18:55:33] <kobach> lol
[18:59:48] <Bytram> shhhh!
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[19:12:25] <crutchy> wtf
[19:12:54] <crutchy> two anon cowards?
[19:13:17] <crutchy> or has uid 1 been 'retasked'?
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[19:26:52] <crutchy> g'day mattie_p, Subsentient
[19:27:14] <Subsentient> hello crutchy
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[19:40:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nouveau Driver gets GPU re-clocking on Linux 3.16 - http://sylnt.us - Clock-it-to-me
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[19:45:17] <Bytram|away> bye all! have a good one!
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[20:09:51] <crutchy> anyone been to web-sniffer.net lately? from my browser it looks like its been nijacked or something
[20:10:01] <crutchy> http://web-sniffer.net
[20:10:03] <monopoly> └ 9web-sniffer.net - web-sniffer Resources and Information. This website is for sale!
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[21:50:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Machine Learning Sniffs Encrypted Web Traffic with High Accuracy - http://sylnt.us - rise-of-the-machines
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[23:00:00] <Bytram> monopoly, do your thing: http://feedproxy.google.com
[23:00:02] <monopoly> └ 9Little girl persuades Google to give dad day off (with cute letter) - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[23:00:20] <Bytram> monopoly++
[23:00:20] <Bender> karma - monopoly: 3
[23:01:44] <chromas> it also doesn't break on multiple links anymore :D
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[23:09:18] <Bytram> chromas: Oh Hi!
[23:09:36] <Bytram> Hey, that's great!
[23:09:44] <Bytram> Mind if I try and break it?
[23:09:52] <chromas> go for it
[23:10:04] <Bytram> k; give me a bit to get ready!
[23:10:51] <Bytram> A: http://www.unicode.org
[23:10:53] <monopoly> └ 9UTS #39: Unicode Security Mechanisms
[23:11:22] <Bytram> nah; A: http://www.unicode.org
[23:11:23] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms
[23:11:31] <Bytram> B: http://www.unicode.org
[23:11:34] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms
[23:11:41] <Bytram> C: http://www.unicode.org
[23:11:43] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms
[23:12:05] <Bytram> http://www.unicode.org http://www.unicode.org
[23:12:06] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:12:06] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:12:10] <Bytram> http://www.unicode.org http://www.unicode.org http://www.unicode.org
[23:12:11] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:12:11] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:12:11] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:12:16] <chromas> Does the └ show up for you?
[23:12:27] <Bytram> http://www.unicode.org http://www.unicode.org http://www.unicode.org http://feedproxy.google.com
[23:12:28] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:12:28] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:12:28] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:12:28] <monopoly> └ 9Amazon, T-Mobile test limits of unlimited cloud media - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[23:12:29] <Bytram> yes
[23:12:34] <chromas> yay!
[23:13:03] <Bytram> http://www.unicode.org http://www.unicode.org http://www.unicode.org http://feedproxy.google.com http://go.theregister.com
[23:13:04] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:13:04] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:13:04] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:13:05] <monopoly> └ 9DON’T add me to your social network, I have NO IDEA who you are • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[23:13:05] <monopoly> └ 9Amazon, T-Mobile test limits of unlimited cloud media - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[23:14:02] <Bytram> nope; didn't crash! But it did change the order around a bit.
[23:14:06] <Bytram> http://www.unicode.org http://www.unicode.org http://www.unicode.org http://feedproxy.google.com http://go.theregister.com
[23:14:07] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:14:08] <monopoly> └ 9Amazon, T-Mobile test limits of unlimited cloud media - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[23:14:08] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:14:08] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:14:08] <monopoly> └ 9DON’T add me to your social network, I have NO IDEA who you are • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[23:14:12] <Bytram> http://www.unicode.org http://www.unicode.org http://www.unicode.org http://feedproxy.google.com http://go.theregister.com
[23:14:13] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:14:13] <monopoly> └ 9DON’T add me to your social network, I have NO IDEA who you are • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[23:14:13] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:14:13] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:14:14] <monopoly> └ 9Amazon, T-Mobile test limits of unlimited cloud media - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[23:14:21] <Bytram> http://www.unicode.org http://www.unicode.org http://www.unicode.org http://feedproxy.google.com http://go.theregister.com
[23:14:23] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:14:23] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:14:23] <monopoly> └ 9UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms ( http://www.unicode.org )
[23:14:23] <monopoly> └ 9DON’T add me to your social network, I have NO IDEA who you are • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[23:14:23] <monopoly> └ 9Amazon, T-Mobile test limits of unlimited cloud media - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[23:15:24] <Bytram> I'd need a bit more time to find a link-shortening service where I could *really* cause it trouble ;)
[23:15:42] <Bytram> https://www.example.com
[23:16:08] <Bytram> chromas: ^^
[23:16:08] <chromas> self-signed cert?
[23:16:31] <Bytram> I dunno; that's the *standard* example domain to use for testing.
[23:16:35] <chromas> oh; palemoon says invalid cert
[23:16:36] <Bytram> http://www.example.com
[23:16:37] <monopoly> └ 9Example Domain
[23:16:43] <Bytram> see!
[23:17:06] <Bytram> check the domain name *first*; then deal with the protocol. =)
[23:17:21] <Bytram> ftp://example.com
[23:17:36] <Bytram> ftp://example.com
[23:17:43] <Bytram> http://example.com
[23:17:43] <monopoly> └ 9Example Domain
[23:17:51] <Bytram> Good!
[23:18:20] <Bytram> http://example.com
[23:18:20] <monopoly> └ 9Example Domain
[23:18:28] <chromas> technically, it still checks the ftp, it just doesn't reply to non-xml/html anymore
[23:18:35] <Bytram> http://example.com
[23:18:36] <monopoly> └ 9Example Domain
[23:18:54] <Bytram> http://abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ.example.com
[23:19:16] <Bytram> http://foo.example.com
[23:19:19] <Bytram> http://foo.example.com
[23:19:47] <chromas> I guess it could say "server not found" or something
[23:19:48] <Bytram> http://thispartoftheurlshouldnotmakeanydifferencebecausethedomaincomestotherightofthis.example.com
[23:19:57] <Bytram> Not quite!
[23:20:08] <Bytram> example.com is the name of the *domain*
[23:20:20] <Bytram> the stuff "ahead" of it are sub-domains.
[23:20:28] <Bytram> (that is if I recall correctly)
[23:20:41] <chromas> for some reason I can't click that last one even though it's a link
[23:21:20] <chromas> oh, you're saying if the subdomains don't exist, check the second-level?
[23:21:22] <Bytram> as long as it has "example.com" (or, more properly in canonical form, "example.com.") then it is located on the example.com domain
[23:21:28] <Bytram> not quite.
[23:21:38] <chromas> it just passes the url to curl
[23:21:55] <Bytram> wha? uh? Orly?
[23:22:13] <Bytram> hrrmmmm...
[23:22:30] <Bytram> http://thispartoftheurlshouldnotmakeanydifferencebecausethedomaincomestotherightofthis.example.com
[23:23:00] <Bytram> http://example.com
[23:23:00] <monopoly> └ 9Example Domain
[23:23:04] <Bytram> http://example.com.
[23:23:05] <monopoly> └ 9Example Domain
[23:23:16] <Bytram> Woo hoo! Hot THAT one right!
[23:23:22] <Bytram> s/Hot/Got/
[23:23:22] <SedBot> <Bytram> Woo hoo! Got THAT one right!
[23:23:38] <Bytram> http://abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ.example.com
[23:23:49] <Bytram> http://a.example.com
[23:23:54] <Bytram> http://example.com
[23:23:54] <monopoly> └ 9Example Domain
[23:24:11] <Bytram> http://127.0.0.1
[23:24:22] <Bytram> http://127.0.0.1:80
[23:24:31] <Bytram> http://127.0.0.0:80
[23:24:56] <Bytram> http://www.unicode.org
[23:24:59] <monopoly> └ 9Proposed Update Not Available
[23:25:45] <Bytram> monopoly: s/Up//
[23:25:45] <SedBot> <Bytram> <monopoly> └ 9Proposed date Not Available
[23:25:53] <Bytram> neat!
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[23:26:04] <Bytram> oh, boy...!!!
[23:26:21] <chromas> so curl doesn't hit the https because the cert isn't valid for that doman (according to my web browser). There may be a switch for it though
[23:26:23] <Bytram> anexample.com/index.html
[23:26:44] <Bytram> s#an#http://#
[23:26:44] <SedBot> <Bytram> http://example.com
[23:26:45] <monopoly> └ 9Example Domain
[23:26:50] <chromas> I'm working on a better url detector to replace the current oen
[23:26:50] <Bytram> Woot!
[23:27:05] <chromas> s/en/ne/
[23:27:05] <SedBot> <chromas> I'm working on a better url detector to replace the currnet oen
[23:27:11] <Bytram> that was GREAT! Did you see what happened?
[23:27:11] <chromas> hah
[23:27:19] <chromas> no
[23:27:52] <Bytram> I entered *part* of a url on ONE line: ample.com/index.html
[23:27:54] <chromas> SedBot takes # delimiters now?
[23:27:54] * SedBot is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[23:28:18] <Bytram> s#a#http://exa#
[23:28:18] <SedBot> <Bytram> I entered *phttp://exart* of a url on ONE line: ample.com/index.html
[23:28:27] <Bytram> I entered *part* of a url on ONE line: ample.com/index.html
[23:28:42] <Bytram> s# am#http://exam#
[23:28:42] <SedBot> <Bytram> I entered *part* of a url on ONE line: http://example.com
[23:28:43] <monopoly> └ 9Example Domain
[23:29:17] <Bytram> and then used sedbot to modify what I previously entered to have IT put ou what is now a valid URL
[23:29:44] <Bytram> chromas: whatever you use for the first char is treated as the delimiter. =)
[23:29:54] <Bytram> man sed
[23:29:59] <Bytram> ~man sed
[23:30:31] <Bytram> oh wel.
[23:31:18] <Bytram> going to finish something atm; away for a bit
[23:35:55] <chromas> ss.*sxs
[23:35:55] <SedBot> <chromas> x
[23:35:58] <chromas> neat
[23:43:50] <chromas> ^ crutchy
[23:44:48] <arti> o.o
[23:44:55] <arti> ^ chromas
[23:45:37] <chromas> crutchy has a sedbot in exec; could add that feature
[23:54:03] <Bytram> echo http://mosaicscience.com
[23:54:07] <monopoly> └ 9Arrested development | Mosaic