#Soylent | Logs for 2014-06-15
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[00:52:31] * NCommander feels like ugh
[00:52:44] <arti> cold kicking your ass?
[00:54:00] <NCommander> I dunno
[00:54:08] <NCommander> I feel ok since I took a shower, I just don't have energy
[00:58:08] <arti> have any emergen-c?
[00:58:45] <TheMightyBuzzard|Out> NCommander, could be mono
[00:59:00] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard|Out, unlikely. I was in the hospital last time I got mono
[00:59:08] TheMightyBuzzard|Out is now known as TheMightyBuzzard
[00:59:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> Fair nuff. Just had a guy I know go weeks with it thinking it was environmental conditions.
[01:03:57] <crutchy> could be .net
[01:04:02] * crutchy hides
[01:04:56] * arti leaves an offering of coffee out for crutchy
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[01:07:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> $burrito crutchy
[01:07:35] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at crutchy
[01:07:52] <Ethanol-fueled> hahaha
[01:08:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, Ethanol-fueled
[01:08:14] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup.
[01:08:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> just got done with a post-fishing nap
[01:08:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice. What do you fish for?
[01:09:08] <Ethanol-fueled> (I mean, which types of fish)
[01:09:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> bass mostly. of course 2/3 of the fish caught today being catfish kinda mean i was doing something wrong.
[01:10:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahah, fucking catfish. Sheesh, you might as well be fishing for carp.
[01:10:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> catfish fight good but they're a bitch to get unhooked if you're not wearing gloves. at least ones of any size.
[01:10:52] <Ethanol-fueled> (just teasin ya, man -- in the Imperial Valley we fish for cats and carp, because all the canals out there.
[01:11:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> so sport rather than eating?
[01:11:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh yeah, those cats are fucking rough. And they sit differently than bass or trout, slimy fuckers
[01:11:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah buzzard, sport. We were gonna have a fish-fry, and we caught 4 big cats and kept them in the hotel bathtub to keep 'em live
[01:11:50] <arti> fry it up :O~
[01:12:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> the teeth are what bug me. little two pounder can rip the hell out of the thumb in its mouth if it gives a good shake.
[01:12:13] <Ethanol-fueled> But I ruined it....I was cruel to animals and pissed on the carp in the bathtub.
[01:12:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, meant for the carp.
[01:12:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> food time, back in a bit.
[01:12:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Themightybuzzard - we fish carp for sport.
[01:13:35] <Ethanol-fueled> the ones i killed in the bathtub were catfish.
[01:13:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, they do fight good. cooking them is best done by wrapping them in wet cardboard, baking them, then eating the cardboard though.
[01:13:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahaha
[01:14:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Ugh, i can still never get over their bony weird skulls when I cuff 'em.
[01:14:31] <Ethanol-fueled> (sliding the hand down the head so you compress the spines and don't poke yourself)
[01:15:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i just step on the bastards
[01:15:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, off to an early father's day dinner with the old guy.
[01:16:03] <crutchy> s/could be/i love/
[01:16:04] <exec> last message by "crutchy" not found
[01:16:06] <Ethanol-fueled> what do you use for bait? We use glow-died live worms and chicken liver.
[01:16:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, later dude!
[01:16:41] <Ethanol-fueled> s/dude/nood
[01:16:41] * SedBot tosses a / to Ethynel-falod
[01:16:43] <exec> <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, later nood!
[01:17:14] <Ethanol-fueled> bixnood++
[01:17:14] <Bender> karma - bixnood: 2
[01:17:23] <crutchy> my bot's sed not supposed to be enabled when sedbot here :-/
[01:21:21] <chromas> it also doesn't taunt when missing /
[01:21:54] <arti> when you don't use a / it sould do aussie taunts
[01:22:00] <arti> "ya. na. you're a cunt."
[01:23:09] <crutchy> lol
[01:31:39] <Ethanol-fueled> WINO MODE = ACTIVATE
[02:00:51] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled: s/NO/ND/
[02:00:51] <SedBot> <crutchy> <Ethanol-fueled> WIND MODE = ACTIVATE
[02:01:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IRS Loses Emails in Tea Party Investigation - http://sylnt.us - inconvenient-data-is-impossible-to-retrieve
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[02:07:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> and dinner accomplished
[02:08:39] <chromas> SedBot: s/ACTIVATE/BREAK/
[02:08:39] <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <crutchy> <Ethanol-fueled> WIND MODE = BREAK
[02:09:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's entirely too many attributions
[02:10:10] <chromas> SedBot: s/ W/<TheMightyBuzzard> W/
[02:10:10] <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <crutchy> <Ethanol-fueled><TheMightyBuzzard> WIND MODE = BREAK
[02:10:40] <chromas> I can't believe you'd say such a thing, sir
[02:11:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> when the attributions are longer than the text, it's time to do something else
[02:12:25] <chromas> SedBot: s/.*/π©/
[02:12:26] <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> π©
[02:19:48] <Ethanol-fueled> The surf was phat today.
[02:20:05] <Ethanol-fueled> mad sets.
[02:20:55] <Ethanol-fueled> and a reasonably hangover-friendly low-high transition at around 10am.
[02:20:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> despite living on the coast for years, never been.
[02:21:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard - are you talking about surfing? There are no waves on the east coast, haha!
[02:22:09] <Ethanol-fueled> i kayak-surf, so I'm not a real surfer. Don't have the time or energy to learn since gotta work a day-job.
[02:22:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothin special but you can still surf on a heavy day if you're determined to.
[02:22:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup, there are a lot of surfers on the East Coast, actually.
[02:22:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i don't even live on a coast anymore. not for 20 years.
[02:23:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Don't blame you. Ridiculous rents and obnoxious tourists.
[02:24:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> southeast ain't bad for rent if you don't need to live on the beach.
[02:24:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup, that's true.
[02:26:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> used to live in charleston until i enlisted. i miss it some but, bible belt laws aside, i think i prefer the I35 area.
[02:26:43] <Ethanol-fueled> it's nice to brag about living in California, but there's some shit that goes down in the southeast that you'd never see on this coast...
[02:28:06] <Ethanol-fueled> generally referring to the mardi-gras like behavior, titties hanging out the hotel balconies and bead tossing as the cars slowly drive down the main drag etc.
[02:28:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> go for it, i can't feel envy for cali residents, only scorn and/or pity.
[02:28:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, Buzzard, remember it well....having to drive 2 hours to another fucking county because blue laws.
[02:28:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya, NO is fuuuuuun
[02:28:58] <Ethanol-fueled> I think we actually ended up having to go back into North Carolina for the beer
[02:29:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> thankfully, we can just buy hot 6-point at the liquor store
[02:31:16] <Ethanol-fueled> My favorite thing about the South is Waffle House. Best hangover food ever. But as far as scorn and pity for Californians, I feel the same way. Compared to most other state populations, we're the most annoying and obnoxious.
[02:31:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck yes
[02:31:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> to the awful waffle that is
[02:32:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> better if you hit it after the drinking though. staves off the hangover some.
[02:32:27] <Ethanol-fueled> man, that waffle house goodness....so greasy.
[02:32:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Dem hash browns
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[02:32:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> scattered, smothered, and covered
[02:32:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Holy shit, and this will blow the mind of any californian visiting the south -
[02:33:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Hardees (called Carls Jr. Here) has FATBACK in their salad buffet
[02:33:19] <Ethanol-fueled> (probably said that here already)
[02:33:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> dayum. this i did not know.
[02:34:26] <Ethanol-fueled> (actually, that was in North Carolina, may be different in other places)
[02:35:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> had a burger from their drive-through today, wish i'd went in now.
[02:39:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, i wanna know what it is with catfish and leeches. for some reason they lurve the fuck out of them when they hardly touch a minnow or a worm unless you're dropping them on their noses.
[02:40:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Can you get leeches as bait?
[02:40:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> not around here but my dad brought like 6 dozen down from his last visit to wisconsin
[02:41:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> wigged me out at first until i figured out it don't hurt when they suck on to your finger and you can just scrape them off with your thumbnail.
[02:44:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can get them yourself just by tying a big piece of liver on to a rope and dropping it in the river for a while but they sell them up north.
[02:49:35] <crutchy> ~reload
[02:49:37] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file
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[02:54:46] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v Bytram|away] by juggler
[02:54:55] <crutchy> hi Bytram|away
[02:55:14] <Bytram|away> g'day crutchy
[02:55:44] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[02:56:19] <crutchy> trying exec out in freenode thismorning... just for shits n giggles
[02:56:39] <crutchy> only had to tweak a couple of things
[02:56:43] <Bytram> how's it going?
[02:56:46] <Bytram> great!
[03:04:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin Bytram
[03:05:04] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: hiya! How's things?
[03:06:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> good day fishin, so calling it a win.
[03:06:33] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I'm currently looking around for "interesting" test data for your updates to play with. :)
[03:06:54] <Bytram> I wonder if the feeling was mutual for the fish?
[03:07:01] <Bytram> ;)
[03:07:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh don't bother. the version on dev dies soon.
[03:07:17] <Bytram> glad you took some time off from the coding.
[03:07:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> save them for when the proper pull hits dev
[03:07:54] <Bytram> will do, but I'd like to have them in hand when the time comes, yanno?
[03:08:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya man
[03:10:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> i do get a bit manic about it. when i'm on, i'm way on and probably only eat once a day. s'why i make a point of doing other stuff.
[03:11:36] <Bytram> nod nod; nod nod; nod nod; nod nod; nod nod; nod nod; nod nod; nod nod; nod nod; nod nod; nod nod; nod nod; nod nod; nod nod; nod nod; nod nod; =)
[03:12:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus, my ass ain't so pasty white if i get it out in the sun a couple times a week.
[03:12:36] <crutchy> eck. tmi
[03:12:51] <chromas> Nei
[03:14:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard: eating once a day? Your shits must be rock-hard
[03:15:10] <Ethanol-fueled> unless you subscribe to an all-chese diet.
[03:15:45] <Bytram> Ethanol-fueled: s/chese/chinese/
[03:15:45] <SedBot> <Bytram> <Ethanol-fueled> unless you subscribe to an all-chinese diet.
[03:15:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Nudist colonies are one of the best things about America.
[03:15:51] <Bytram> =)
[03:16:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Bytram - you changed the words, but the meaning remains the same. Braco!
[03:16:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, nah guy. I can eat cheese all day long n my lactose issues perfectly counteract the cheese's stopping power.
[03:16:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Bravo!
[03:17:12] <Bytram> braco, bravo, barco, barcon, bacon++
[03:17:31] <Ethanol-fueled> bacon++
[03:17:31] <Bender> karma - bacon: 235
[03:17:54] * Ethanol-fueled unfortunately fucks vegetarians on occasion
[03:18:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Ugh...vegetarians. Fewer things are such offensive to the human condition.
[03:18:51] <Bytram> on the positive, they are a nice way to add fiber to the diet of canibals.
[03:18:57] <Bytram> urp.
[03:18:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm a proxy vegetarian
[03:19:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> cows are vegetarians, i eat cows, i am a vegetarian. QED
[03:19:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> or possibly a vegetarianian
[03:20:33] <Bytram> might want to lay off the vegaametavitamix, hmm?
[03:20:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon AWS Continues to Use TrueCrypt - http://sylnt.us - your-data-is-safe
[03:20:52] * Bytram thinks that was one of Lucy's best skits, ever.
[03:21:38] juggs is now known as juggs|afk
[03:22:13] <crutchy> hi juggs
[03:22:22] <crutchy> i mean bye juggs :-P
[03:23:59] <Bytram> well, this is strange. I hadn't been to http://thedailywtf.com in several months; just popped over and it looks like they're running new server software?
[03:24:28] <crutchy> beta?
[03:24:32] <Bytram> Can anyone confirm? I think it used to be an old version of CommunityServer or something sounding like that.
[03:25:24] <chromas> Why is it making sounds? It's its own Wtf
[03:28:06] <Landon> http://what.thedailywtf.com
[03:32:23] <Bytram> thedailywtf is not making sounds, but I'm looking for something I'd seen over there, and it looks all-cleaned-up and prettified...
[03:32:25] juggs|afk is now known as juggs
[03:32:35] <Bytram> wondered if/when that had happened?
[03:33:07] <juggs> hi crutchy
[03:33:22] <crutchy> g'day
[03:33:24] <Bytram> then again, I'm looking at the site with my PC, whereas for the last few months of my viewing it (before the recent lapse) I was only looking at thedailywtf on my cell.
[03:40:16] <NCommander> hey folks
[03:40:40] <crutchy> g'day NCommander
[03:41:00] <juggs> Ahhh what joy it brings to my heart when I see ads for jobs in Missouri where the recruiter's contact details place them in Hyderabad, India. I'm sure there's not one person in Missouri with Netezza, BI and Data Warehouse skills, not a one.
[03:41:05] <juggs> hola NC
[03:41:50] * NCommander is figuring out what he wants to do tonight
[03:42:37] <juggs> switch everyting of, contemplate the stars and figure out wtf it's actually all about perhaps?
[03:42:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> wb NC
[03:42:43] <crutchy> same thing we do every night?
[03:42:44] <juggs> s/of/off/
[03:42:44] <SedBot> <juggs> switch everyting off, contemplate the stars and figure out wtf it's actually all about perhaps?
[03:42:47] <crutchy> try to take over the world
[03:42:56] <juggs> feck I guve up
[03:43:36] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs: give up on internet life.
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[03:44:24] <Ethanol-fueled> find work as a janitor for that firm, and publicise all the dirt.
[03:44:35] <NCommander> juggs, recruiters suck in general
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[03:44:55] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, hit them where it hurts.
[03:45:10] <Ethanol-fueled> I'd be happy to tell you how if you cannot.
[03:46:30] <crutchy> barrage them with indian resumes scraped off the interblags?
[03:47:42] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, American industry is complacent. They're geared towards great rewards, at the cost of great risk.
[03:48:03] <Ethanol-fueled> They're're houses of cards.
[03:48:21] <crutchy> at the bottom of each resume, state that the applicant will work a full week for a loaf of bread :-P
[03:49:01] <Ethanol-fueled> and with regulatory agencies looking to make even more money, let them fight each other.
[03:49:57] <juggs> NCommander, oh, indeed they do. Along with the HR drones they interlock with.
[03:50:37] <crutchy> could also make all sorts of bureaucratic choke points with mention of interests in flying and chemistry and pharmacology and studies of islam ;-)
[03:50:43] <Ethanol-fueled> it seems you two don't know how to dick HR drones.
[03:51:08] <crutchy> get the NSA and FBI and CIA involved :-P
[03:51:20] <crutchy> wrap them up in their own red tape
[03:51:23] <juggs> Not worth the effort Ethanol-fueled, just go around them, far easier.
[03:51:44] <Bytram> afk
[03:51:56] <crutchy> gtg
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[03:54:16] * NCommander notes his biggest problems being hired anywhere was dealing with HR, not doing the job
[03:54:56] <Ethanol-fueled> ncommander, that's beacuse you are an aspie.
[03:55:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't work for anyone who has an hr dept then. simple.
[03:55:59] <juggs> Not that I have any interest in a job in Missouri, or any real idea why I'm looking at a job posting there. Just struck me as a bad thing to see a contract position there being blatantly recruited for in Hyderabad. Perhaps I should put together a false resume as a local with all the skills and experience required and see what BS they come with for not interviewing :D
[03:56:19] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, aspie O_o?
[03:56:24] <Ethanol-fueled> or understand what a "De Broglie Wavelength" is.
[03:56:35] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: finally here but only for a minute
[03:56:41] <Ethanol-fueled> ncommander......not drunk. Just a drunk :)
[03:57:12] <Ethanol-fueled> http://en.wikipedia.org
[03:57:21] <Ethanol-fueled> De Broglie Weavelength
[03:58:19] <Ethanol-fueled> ncommander - I can pair you with a big girl.
[03:58:47] <juggs> oh god, here comes that pimping shit again
[03:58:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, fat bottomed girls do make the rockin' world go round.
[03:59:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck yeah
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[04:00:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus it's a fun song to test new speakers out with.
[04:00:19] <Ethanol-fueled> mrcoolbp - FUCK YOU
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[04:00:37] <Ethanol-fueled> fuck you punk motherfuckers
[04:00:59] <NCommander> `mrwe'lre playing pong
[04:01:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> Did NCommander get into Ethanol-fueled's fuel supply?
[04:01:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Don't matter.
[04:01:48] <Ethanol-fueled> It's too late.
[04:02:06] <NCommander> AndyTheAbsurd, the truth of the matter is Ethanol-fueled is my alter ego
[04:02:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> feels like a beer night here
[04:02:33] <Ethanol-fueled> ncommander, that's a bunch of horseshit.
[04:02:53] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled is Bender, NCommander
[04:03:13] <Ethanol-fueled> though it is true that the De Broglie wavelength was how you see us....
[04:03:23] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, *trollface* :-)
[04:03:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm the only one here that ISN'T an alter-ego of NCommander, aren't I?
[04:03:52] <juggs> Yup
[04:03:58] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm going to drink. away from here.
[04:03:59] <chromas> No; you'r e just the only alter ego who thinks you're not
[04:04:23] <paulej72> everyone here is a bot
[04:04:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> Ah, I'm pretty sure that you're all figments of my imagination anyway.
[04:04:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, i'm a completely separate personality in his messed up noggin.
[04:04:36] <juggs> how does it feel to be a bot?
[04:04:43] <chromas> How does everyone here is a bot make you feel?
[04:04:45] <Ethanol-fueled> paulej: ALL OF us except you :)
[04:04:46] <Bytram> !uid
[04:04:46] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4453, owned by Vintowin
[04:04:52] <paulej72> or we are all figments in NCommander drug addeled brain
[04:04:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> Or maybe I'm a figment of one of your imaginations.
[04:05:28] <Ethanol-fueled> http://en.wikipedia.org
[04:05:28] <monopoly> Title: Matter wave - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[04:05:41] <Ethanol-fueled> ZFUCK YOU YOU COCKSUCKING PRICKS
[04:05:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm pretty sure i'm a perl script on god's computer and you lot are just input piped from /dev/urandom
[04:05:59] <Ethanol-fueled> buzzard - PERl is for fags.
[04:06:00] <chromas> urandom; that's why we repeat
[04:06:10] <NCommander> paulej72, uite possibly
[04:06:20] <paulej72> q
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[04:12:42] <mrcoolbp> ethanol-fueled, nice to see you too.
[04:15:30] <Bytram> does anyone know, offhand, what version of Perl we're using to support soylentnews?
[04:17:17] <mrcoolbp> mod_perl something....1.2?
[04:17:20] <mrcoolbp> can't remember
[04:17:48] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: hope to catch up with you soon but I had a long day and i'm going to go relaxd
[04:17:52] <mrcoolbp> talk to ya later
[04:18:04] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, yeah, cya
[04:18:09] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: hey there!
[04:18:12] <NCommander> Bytram, 5.10
[04:18:16] <mrcoolbp> ^
[04:18:20] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: have a good one!
[04:18:27] <mrcoolbp> Cool thanks guys, take it easy
[04:18:50] <Bytram> NCommander: thanks! was looking around for utf-8 info, found an interesting discussion on perl and utf-8 here: http://stackoverflow.com
[04:18:51] <monopoly> Title: unicode - Why does modern Perl avoid UTF-8 by default? - Stack Overflow
[04:19:19] <Bytram> it's beyond my perl experience level, but seems to have some excellent obervations in the comments.
[04:20:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, there's really very little to it. most of what i did to get it working was removing code that actively stopped it from working.
[04:20:56] <Bytram> LOL!
[04:21:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> modules of course can be a different story, depending.
[04:22:29] <juggs> Good work. Did you manage to expand all that unreadable if / elseif crud out, or did you lose your marbles trying?
[04:22:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> $burrito juggs
[04:22:59] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at juggs
[04:23:05] <juggs> :D thanks
[04:23:22] <juggs> I take that as being the latter
[04:23:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> bite your tongue. if/elsif/else is our friend
[04:23:40] <juggs> $beer TheMightyBuzzard
[04:23:41] * aqu4 gives TheMightyBuzzard a cold can of beer
[04:24:30] <juggs> I agree with you. I cut my teeth on pascal many a year ago - now that is readable :D
[04:24:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you mean ternary, not yet.
[04:25:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's going away one file at a time though. when i don't feel like doing anything else or i need a break.
[04:25:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm having myself a proper weekend though. no code touched since friday.
[04:26:04] <juggs> Although I seem to remember using case or was it switch more than nested ifs. Meh, it's all so hazy.
[04:26:18] <juggs> Yeh, it's good to take time out
[04:27:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> fishin n beer n pipe today.
[04:27:57] <Bytram> hmm, speaking of taking time out, sounds like a good idea. I'm going to try and get a reasonable night's sleep and try again tomorrow.
[04:28:06] <Bytram> hope you all have a good night!
[04:28:11] <juggs> sleep well
[04:28:38] <Bytram> juggs: thanks! And the best to you, as well!
[04:28:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> you think cigarettes are expensive, try pipe smoking. ~$12/oz for the tobacco.
[04:28:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite, Bytram
[04:28:58] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: night!
[04:29:18] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I don't suppose you could buy sigs and rip the tobacco out of them?
[04:29:30] <juggs> Isn't the art about making the pipe last as long as possible - or is that just geekery competitive pipe smoking BS?
[04:29:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> could, or i could smoke the bulk pipe tobacco.
[04:29:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't though for the same reason i don't drink blended scotch
[04:30:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, beats me. never heard of such a thing.
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[04:32:32] <arti> making the pipe last as long as possible
[04:32:40] <arti> what are they made out of
[04:32:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you mean the pipe itself rather than the tobacco you're smoking, i've yet to burn the bottom out of one.
[04:32:45] <arti> "yeah this is my ice pipe
[04:34:09] <juggs> It crops in the news here every few years (presumably on light news days), there's some insane types trying to have it classed as a competitive sport i.e. whoever can cause their regulation portion of tobacco burn the longest in their pipe wins. It all gets a bit technical with pipe designs and bowl packing techniques.
[04:34:45] <arti> "this is the everest pack, used by sherpas"
[04:35:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird. there's an art to getting just the right humidity in the tobacco and to packing it tight enough but not too tight but they still go out once in a while.
[04:36:15] * NCommander has never smoked a pipe
[04:36:30] <NCommander> If I wasn't trying so hard to quit, I might be tempted
[04:36:42] <juggs> Wouldn't cig reclaimed 'tobacco' go up like an incendiary in a pipe? It's tinder dry. I seem to remember rolling and pipe tobacco being much more moist and smelling a lot better. Putting aside the oxidising crud that until recently was mixed with cig tobaccos to prevent cigs going out.
[04:37:09] <arti> prevent it or encourage?
[04:37:24] <arti> "man am i tired, best light up and lay down. i'll just rest my eyes"
[04:37:55] <juggs> I'll put the fire department on notice ;)
[04:39:33] <juggs> NCommander, how long has it been now?
[04:39:53] <NCommander> juggs, not long enough
[04:40:09] <arti> are you able to drink alcohol yet?
[04:41:49] <juggs> You can do it NCommander. The alternative is coughing half a lung up every morning by the time you get to 35.
[04:44:15] <juggs> arti, the evening out is the real tester. A few beers, others chuffing around, so easy to slip.
[04:44:25] <NCommander> juggs, ugh, 35 is disturbingly close
[04:44:28] <NCommander> Less than a decade
[04:44:53] <arti> indeed, been about 10 weeks
[04:44:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, well you "can" smoke cigarette tobacco in a pipe. it does burn hotter and faster though and doesn't leave the protective carbon on the bowl like pipe tobacco does.
[04:44:59] <arti> i can drink no prob now
[04:45:25] <arti> i don't miss smellingl ike that
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[04:46:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> perks of pipe smoking: they smell goooood.
[04:46:58] <arti> i burn other things
[04:47:06] <arti> and i concur
[04:50:50] <juggs> NCommander, all the more reason to stop sooner. You'd better off rolling up dollar bills and setting fire to them - and you might live to tell the story :D
[04:51:10] <juggs> s /better/be better/
[04:51:17] <juggs> hmm
[04:51:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima be quiet bout my cigarette smoking cause ima bad influence with not desire whatever to quit.
[04:52:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/not/no/
[04:52:20] <SedBot> <TheMightyBuzzard> ima be quiet bout my cigarette smoking cause ima bad influence with no desire whatever to quit.
[04:52:22] <exec> <TheMightyBuzzard> ima be quiet bout my cigarette smoking cause ima bad influence with no desire whatever to quit.
[04:52:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> $burrito exec
[04:52:47] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at exec
[04:52:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> one sedbot's enough, thanks, exec
[04:53:22] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, I'm a cigarette smoker (I don't even enjoy it anymore it's just a nasty habit). Pipe smoke smells so much less acrid.
[04:53:32] <chromas> it's only supposed to chime in when real SedBot's gone, which has happened lately
[04:56:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggler, i enjoy it and always have. breaks the day up quite nicely into manageable chunks.
[04:57:11] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: s/er/o/
[04:57:11] <SedBot> <chromas> <TheMightyBuzzard> jugglo, i enjoy it and always have. breaks the day up quite nicely into manageable chunks.
[04:57:12] <exec> <chromas> <TheMightyBuzzard> jugglo, i enjoy it and always have. breaks the day up quite nicely into manageable chunks.
[04:57:19] <juggs> HEHE
[04:58:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> you have failed me for the last time, general autocomplete.
[04:58:55] <arti> such a rad way to deal with that
[04:59:06] <arti> "you then mash the buttons to complete the choke"
[04:59:46] * TheMightyBuzzard nods sagely
[05:01:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, my enjoyment of expensive habits is going to make me take on another client or cut back on something else.
[05:01:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> been going through all the flavors my local shop carries and found a pipe tobacco that i absolutely love the hell out of.
[05:02:37] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, it used to be same for me, the smoke break would be what finally got me out of the chair after hours working on something, only to have the easy answer coalesce during the smoke. I doubt it was the nicotine causing that, more the change of scene breaking some circular brain trap.
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[06:33:37] <crutchy> i think github's activity charty is borked
[06:33:55] <arti> just do cron submits
[06:34:03] <arti> that'll keep your activity high
[06:34:18] <arti> commits, meh
[06:35:39] <crutchy> says i haven't contributed anything past couple of days. maybe its punishing me for spamming it :-P
[06:37:12] <crutchy> i prolly did 10-20 commits yesterday
[06:37:34] <arti> i'm sure that had their server admins scrambling
[06:37:37] <crutchy> just cos of the arseabout way my bot is set up
[06:37:41] <crutchy> lol
[06:38:23] <crutchy> "we're being invaded by drop bears from straya c*nt"
[06:38:34] <arti> ya. na. you're a cunt
[06:39:49] <crutchy> we don't use firewalls here
[06:40:08] <crutchy> we just shove poisonous snakes in the tubes
[06:40:29] <arti> hahaha
[06:40:44] <arti> that kid, i'd love to see him drink coffee
[06:42:11] <JamesNZ> crutchy: LOL XD
[06:42:34] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[06:42:34] <monopoly> Title: HBA - YouTube
[06:42:38] <crutchy> ^classic
[06:42:43] <arti> it's pretty amazing
[06:42:48] <crutchy> even for an ad
[06:44:00] <arti> oh crutchy, i think i pilfered that video
[06:44:56] <crutchy> "crocodile came up and bit my guts out... and bit me into parts and pieces"
[06:44:57] <arti> 125mb, i'll link you once it's uploaded m8
[06:45:37] <crutchy> i hate ads, but whenever that ad came on tv it was ok
[06:50:44] <crutchy> wonder if its possible to make australianiser script
[06:51:10] <arti> totally
[06:51:29] <JamesNZ> Just add the accent and you're done!
[06:51:38] <crutchy> hello people = g'day cunts
[06:51:40] <arti> strianspeak
[06:52:06] <crutchy> i don't know anyone that actually talks like that
[06:52:23] <arti> make sure you speak that way abroad
[06:52:31] <JamesNZ> Isn't it "G'day mate"?
[06:52:42] <JamesNZ> And "Noice"?
[06:52:49] <crutchy> i think most of the world probably has the wrong idea of what we're like here
[06:53:06] <crutchy> they watch croc dundee and think we all carry around machetes
[06:53:19] <JamesNZ> But stereotypes are so much more amusing to believe :D
[06:53:28] <crutchy> definitely
[06:54:17] <crutchy> or we go to the dunny, look across the urinal at the other guy and say "that's not a cock... THIS is a cock!"
[06:55:25] <JamesNZ> heh
[06:59:34] <crutchy> haha arti //glad the kiddies weren't with me for that video :-P
[07:00:03] <arti> makes it sound like we're swapping porn
[07:00:23] <crutchy> robocop pr0n
[07:18:58] <arti> robo doujin
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[07:26:04] <crutchy> oh gosh
[07:27:13] <crutchy> it appears i may have fucked up
[07:27:28] <arti> quick, roll on the insanity table
[07:27:49] * crutchy climbs to higher ground to avoid flood
[07:29:29] <crutchy> ssh |<---------------------- | -x-------------------->| fucking around
[07:29:52] <arti> i can't really bring myself to code anything at the moment
[07:36:42] * Subsentient cries
[07:38:55] <arti> zip yourself up again?
[07:39:59] <crutchy> didn't have an encounter with robocop i hope
[07:40:11] <crutchy> i saw aqu4 in freenode
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[07:49:01] <JamesNZ> $beer Subsentient
[07:49:01] * aqu4 gives Subsentient a cold can of beer
[07:49:17] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: :^)
[07:49:27] <Subsentient> crutchy: Where are you on Freenode?
[07:50:06] <Subsentient> That is indeed aqu4. She runs on OOTWS, Freenode, and SoylentNews servers.
[07:51:01] <JamesNZ> Object Oriented Tight Walled Server? :P
[07:51:18] <JamesNZ> s/Tight/Thick
[07:51:18] * SedBot offers JimasNZ a /
[07:53:26] <crutchy> i was in #botters
[07:53:42] <crutchy> or bot-test or something
[07:54:13] <Subsentient> crutchy: ahh yeah she's in #botters and #botters-test
[07:54:16] <Subsentient> She autoconnects.
[07:54:21] <Subsentient> I don't go into that channel often
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[08:01:52] <crutchy> s/bot/plop/
[08:01:52] <SedBot> <crutchy> or plop-test or something
[08:01:56] <crutchy> hmm
[08:02:06] <crutchy> why is SedBot working here but not in #test?
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[10:39:20] <crutchy> anyone here use tmux?
[10:40:10] <Konomi> nope!
[10:43:36] <crutchy> fucking awesome!
[10:43:58] <crutchy> its like a duplicated terminal emulator on two machines :-D
[10:44:25] <swiss> meh
[10:44:30] <swiss> i prefer screen
[10:44:55] <crutchy> i been reading about screen as well
[10:45:00] <crutchy> they seem very similar
[10:45:14] <swiss> they are
[10:45:24] <swiss> screen uses less resources in my experience
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[10:49:24] <Konomi> I'll always use screen
[10:49:28] <Konomi> it got recently updated
[10:49:40] <crutchy> might give it a go
[10:49:55] <crutchy> even just to ccompare
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[10:58:44] <crutchy> oh you sold me. same shit different smell, but if you guys prefer screen then i got no reason to argue :-P
[10:59:10] <arti> blasphemy
[10:59:15] <arti> let the holy war commence
[10:59:34] * crutchy finds a nice deep sheellhole to hide in
[10:59:50] <arti> wonder if you can hear the ocean...
[11:00:17] * crutchy becomes concerned about his need to pass wind in his current situation
[11:00:52] <crutchy> sh fan.sh
[11:01:10] <arti> save that for cuddle time
[11:02:00] <crutchy> xlefay was yabberin on about screen (or someone was, maybe you arti) a while back, but i had nfi what they were on about :-P
[11:02:22] * arti isn't sure either
[11:02:29] * arti knows screen
[11:03:02] <arti> it's pretty cool, haven't checked out tmux
[11:15:25] <Konomi> crutchy: I mostly prefer screen cause it was the first one I used and because of the recent updates ;p
[11:15:47] <Konomi> I've been meaning to try both but the learning curve seems steep
[11:17:31] <PrincessRiikka> People pushed me into using tmux but it seemed just too annoying to learn for so little gain after using screen for a good while
[11:18:05] <PrincessRiikka> Even they couldn't cite more than license issues (on principle) as reason to switch
[11:18:24] <Konomi> there was some apparently features tmux had I was told
[11:18:35] <Konomi> but apparently the recent update to screen fixed it all
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[11:27:57] <Popeidol> screen++
[11:27:57] <Bender> karma - screen: 1
[11:28:26] <crutchy> i read something about tmux session captions being a bit more descriptive than screen
[11:28:57] <crutchy> and from what i saw it looks like tmux highlights differences in window size on the larger window
[11:29:06] <crutchy> (screen may be able to do that too though)
[11:29:50] <swiss> a lot of the "missing" screen functionality is usually a lack of googling
[11:30:01] <swiss> tmux does some things screen doesn't, but i've never needed to use them
[11:30:23] <Popeidol> given I use about 2% of the features they each offer, they're pretty much interchangable for me
[11:30:50] <Popeidol> I just stick with screen for the muscle memory
[11:30:51] <crutchy> Popeidol: i'm prolly in same boat
[11:31:30] <Popeidol> you are all in a screen session right now
[11:31:33] <Popeidol> how does it feel?
[11:31:39] <crutchy> windowy
[11:31:54] <crutchy> you're all in a vm
[11:32:07] <PrincessRiikka> Same way you feel being in mine? :P
[11:32:25] <Popeidol> this is all getting a bit matrixy
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[11:33:38] <crutchy> it's all chromas' fault.. he convinced me to ssh into my server instead of copying files with a usb stick.... how dare he! :-P
[11:34:45] <PrincessRiikka> IRCing from a server somewhere is so convenient :3
[11:35:37] <PrincessRiikka> Always up, same setup and interface and everything wherever I am. Whee! Except not whee, it's just IRC.
[11:35:41] <crutchy> i put my bot on a server so it can annoy you 24/6
[11:36:19] <Popeidol> even bots get sunday off
[11:36:50] <crutchy> that might be a little optimistic... it'll prolly bork itself for more than 1 day/wk
[11:37:07] <crutchy> bork itelf = i'll fuck it up somehow
[11:37:34] <PrincessRiikka> Heheheh
[11:39:41] <PrincessRiikka> Eventually I'll stop derping around and write some code. Probably.
[11:39:57] <crutchy> i prefer code than server crap
[11:40:20] <crutchy> server crap is for sysadmins
[11:40:36] * crutchy ducks
[11:42:21] <PrincessRiikka> Quack.
[11:43:02] <crutchy> ~weather traralgon
[11:43:05] <exec> Weather for Morwell (latrobe Valley Airport), VIC, Australia at 2014-06-15 08:00:00 (UTC) ~ 1.7 hrs ago:
[11:43:06] <exec> temperature = 49.8Β°F (9.9Β°C) dewpoint = 46.8Β°F (8.2Β°C)
[11:43:06] <exec> barometric pressure = 1018.1 mb ~ change of 1.3 mb over past 3 hrs relative humdity = 89%
[11:43:07] <exec> wind speed = 11 mph (17.6 km/h) wind direction = 240Β°
[11:43:22] <crutchy> feels like -1 deg
[11:45:03] <Popeidol> people live in traralgon still?
[11:45:41] <crutchy> one small diff i noticed was that tmux kinda lets you know you're in tmux, whereas screen looks like an ordinary terminal (well, for me anyways). not a biggie though
[11:45:44] <crutchy> lol yeah
[11:46:23] <crutchy> stinky shit hole that it is
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[11:47:12] <crutchy> hi JamesNZ
[11:47:24] <JamesNZ> Hey crutchy \o
[11:48:44] <crutchy> where abouts are you Popeidol?
[11:49:23] <crutchy> not sure if you told me already
[11:51:02] <Popeidol> perth, land of excitement
[11:52:08] <crutchy> ah
[11:53:13] <crutchy> i come from the land of moo cows and power stations :-/
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[11:57:11] <SoyCow3356> hi, are there any updates on the site name vote?
[11:57:33] <crutchy> yup. no change
[11:57:57] <SoyCow3356> can't beleive it takes that long to digitally count some votes
[11:58:02] <crutchy> we're people, all mushed up into mush
[11:58:54] <crutchy> it was a geek vote.. so it had to go through 17 servers in 23 countries and bounce off the moon twice for calibration
[11:59:18] <PrincessRiikka> Couldn't get Garrus to do it? *Coughcough*
[11:59:19] <SoyCow3356> still
[11:59:59] <crutchy> lets not forget the essential star trek monologues in between
[12:04:36] <crutchy> hmm i can access server with ssh from terminal but i can't with sftp from nautilus :-/
[12:04:57] <crutchy> does sftp need its own /etc/hosts.allow line?
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[12:06:07] <crutchy> wouldn't have thought so if i got sshd in there
[12:11:18] <crutchy> ah. sftp isn't ftp over ssh
[12:14:54] <Popeidol> it isn't?
[12:16:37] <Popeidol> you learn something new every day
[12:16:40] <crutchy> hmm might be
[12:16:46] <crutchy> i might be getting conffused
[12:16:53] <crutchy> http://en.wikipedia.org
[12:16:54] <monopoly> Title: Secure file transfer program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[12:17:50] <crutchy> i think i got thrown off by "sftp should not be confused with running an FTP client over an SSH connection"
[12:19:16] <crutchy> ~time ks
[12:19:18] <exec> [Google] 5:19am Sunday (CDT) - Time in Kansas, USA
[12:19:31] <crutchy> ah no wonder so quiet :-P
[12:19:43] <crutchy> ~time new spork
[12:19:45] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 15 June 2014, 10:19:44 am
[12:20:00] <crutchy> ~time ny
[12:20:02] <exec> [Google] 6:20am Sunday (EDT) - Time in New York, NY, USA
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[12:27:30] <Belle> HI :)
[12:28:02] * Subsentient snarls at his sneer's scowl
[12:29:03] <Popeidol> I don't think that's physically possible
[12:30:27] <Popeidol> but it does alliterate nicely
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[12:42:06] <crutchy> mornin Subsentient
[12:47:39] <crutchy> ooh just learned about ctrl-a+esc in screen :-)
[13:00:42] <crutchy> scp++
[13:00:42] <Bender> karma - scp: 1
[13:03:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> crutchy: What's that one do? (and is it the same in tmux?)
[13:03:23] <crutchy> i'm using screen now, but scp is separate
[13:03:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> it does something with scp, then?
[13:03:58] <crutchy> http://en.wikipedia.org
[13:03:58] <monopoly> Title: Secure copy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[13:04:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> I've used scp before
[13:04:21] <crutchy> pretty cool
[13:04:41] <crutchy> all these nifty little utils that i wouldn't have blinked an eye at otherwise
[13:04:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> there's also sftp
[13:05:08] <crutchy> i got that working in nautilus before but seems to be borked now :-/
[13:05:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> if you want to do file stuff over the network in nautilus, look at sshfs
[13:05:39] <crutchy> i think it may have something to do with hosts.allow/deny on the server
[13:06:34] <crutchy> i made a little shell script that copies all my bot files from my laptop vm to server in 3 lines (to avoid the .git directory)
[13:06:39] <swiss> sftp > scp
[13:06:47] <swiss> and rsync > *
[13:07:18] <crutchy> hmm i came across mention of rsync (and chromas mentioned it too)
[13:07:25] * crutchy googles
[13:08:34] <crutchy> hmm i need to get off the couch to set that one up on the server... one for later :-P
[13:08:51] <crutchy> ooh no i don't
[13:09:02] * crutchy really is a noob at this ssh stuff
[13:09:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> pfffft
[13:09:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> if you've got ssh access to the server (and it's actually functioning as a server), you *never* need to get up off the couch to do stuff.
[13:10:07] <crutchy> yeah
[13:10:12] <crutchy> this is just weird
[13:10:38] * crutchy wishes he could ssh to work
[13:10:46] <crutchy> and ssh shopping home
[13:10:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> What, that Unix was designed to used remotely, even if you're the sysadmin?
[13:11:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> s/used/be used/
[13:11:01] <SedBot> <AndyTheAbsurd> What, that Unix was designed to be used remotely, even if you're the sysadmin?
[13:11:07] <crutchy> hmm it would also be handy to be able to ssh the kids to school
[13:11:28] <Popeidol> rsync will basically change your life
[13:11:45] <Popeidol> about 80% of the problems I encounter in life are fixed with rsync
[13:12:11] <Popeidol> ...as long as the problem involves file replication between *nix systems
[13:12:49] <PrincessRiikka> Y'see, sometimes qualifiers are kindof important
[13:13:43] <crutchy> xlefay will be blown away that i'm using screen over ssh... he might fall of his chair if i mention rsync
[13:13:53] <crutchy> (when he comes back)
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[13:20:03] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
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[13:20:25] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: G'Morning!
[13:20:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> back atcha
[13:20:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya, almost forgot
[13:20:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:20:56] <Bender> karma - coffee: 246
[13:21:07] * Bytram offers TheMightyBuzzard a freshly-brewed cup of coffee, but doesn't know how to fit in the interpipe
[13:21:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> dcc of course
[13:21:27] <Bytram> hey, was doing some more reading on UTF-8 stuff
[13:21:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> bad for the brain, that
[13:22:02] <Bytram> discovered that the 5- and 6-byte encodings are no longer supported/recommended/whatevah
[13:22:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> by what
[13:22:57] <Bytram> yeah, thought you'd ask... give me a bi to locate the right tab here.
[13:23:13] <paulej72> t
[13:24:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know perl can handle em. also know only one of my fonts can worth a damn.
[13:24:48] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:24:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 247
[13:24:52] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: From wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org The original specification covered numbers up to 31 bits (the original limit of the Universal Character Set). In November 2003, UTF-8 was restricted by RFC 3629 to end at U+10FFFF, in order to match the constraints of the UTF-16 character encoding. This removed all 5- and 6-byte sequences, and about half of the 4-byte sequences.
[13:24:52] <monopoly> Title: UTF-8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[13:25:01] <Bytram> and that RFC can be found at: http://tools.ietf.org
[13:25:02] <monopoly> Title: RFC 3629 - UTF-8, a transformation format of ISO 10646
[13:26:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds like that's mostly for font designers
[13:28:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know perl can grok anything within the old spec, not sure about mysql
[13:28:06] <crutchy> i thought about how to convert from utf-8 to (say) iso 8859-1.. i imagine it would involve shifts or bit conversions of some sort (adjusting character ordinals)
[13:28:14] <crutchy> then i woke up and tried to forget it
[13:28:49] <Bytram> crutchy: g'day! Yup, the more I read, the more I want to tear my eyes out.
[13:29:00] <crutchy> hey Bytram :-)
[13:30:13] <crutchy> reminded me of reading about packed records in The Art of Assembly
[13:31:06] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: do you know if the perl stuff automatically "handles" invalid byte sequences AND does proper, umm, canonicalization(?) of letters having multiple marks on them?
[13:31:19] <Bytram> I know that last part of the question is poorly phrased...
[13:31:53] <Bytram> like having the letter "A" with the addition of a "dot" at the top, and the addition of a "dot" below...
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[13:32:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, think it goes something like sprintf("&#%d;", ord(decode_utf8($char)));
[13:33:01] <Bytram> the sequence (order) of the "additions" is, or could be, significant.
[13:33:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, out of spec as in beyond U+10FFF, it throws an error
[13:33:15] <Bytram> kewel
[13:33:34] <Bytram> ligatures! that's the word I think I was looking for.
[13:34:16] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Ah! Here's a page that goes into it in depth: http://www.unicode.org
[13:34:18] <monopoly> Title: UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms
[13:34:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> will have to add something to catch that
[13:35:01] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard: i reckon converting unicode (whatever encoding it may be) to &#%d; type thing would be good
[13:35:21] <Bytram> I was also wondering about how one might, creatively, generate certain characters using the extra symbols afforded by UTF-8
[13:35:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, already done on dev
[13:35:34] <crutchy> assuming it would be utf-8 per the header and meta i guess
[13:35:37] <crutchy> ah
[13:36:22] <Bytram> and the other word I was looking for was "Normalization" (not canonicalization, though there may be something about that, too, for all I know!)
[13:36:40] <ar> coffee--
[13:36:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 246
[13:36:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> catching that error's going to be fun. will have to throw an eval around something which are dangerous.
[13:37:06] <Bytram> Fun, yup. that's a good word for it!
[13:37:10] <Bytram> cat and mouse.
[13:37:37] <Bytram> One would think that there'd be something out on the net about "things to watch for", but I haven't found it.
[13:37:45] <crutchy> Bytram: as long as you select characters from the utf-8 charset and paste them into the textarea, TheMightyBuzzard's conversion should work (i think)
[13:37:49] <Bytram> a cursory search on stackoverflow did not help.
[13:38:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, or enter them by hand
[13:38:29] <crutchy> if you select a degree char from some other encoding it might not appear as a degree char in a utf-8 encoded page
[13:38:32] <crutchy> lol
[13:38:41] <Bytram> here's a really interesting bit: "1.4 Concatenation of Normalized Strings
[13:38:43] <Bytram> In using normalization functions, it is important to realize that none of the Normalization Forms are closed under string concatenation. That is, even if two strings X and Y are normalized, their string concatenation X+Y is not guaranteed to be normalized. This even happens in NFD, because accents are canonically ordered, and may rearrange around the point where the strings are joined."
[13:38:44] <crutchy> kunji
[13:39:16] <Bytram> that is located at: http://www.unicode.org
[13:39:17] <monopoly> Title: UAX #15: Unicode Normalization Forms
[13:40:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, interesting but irrelevant to us
[13:43:16] <Bytram> so, if I understand that correctly (and using "+" to denote string catenation: encode_utf8(foo + bar) != encode_utf8(foo) + encode_utf8(bar)
[13:43:58] <crutchy> you mean cat + steaming poo might not equal cat += steaming poo?
[13:43:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:44:17] <Bytram> Glad to hear it's irrelevant; I'd rather mention something that does not apply, than omitting something that might apply.
[13:44:33] <Bytram> i.e. avoid errors of omission
[13:44:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not running encode_utf8 on individual characters though. whole string at once, including the ascii-happy characters.
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[13:45:51] <Bytram> I'd assume that is the general case, but couldn't be certain we NEVER catenated strings where it *might* apply.
[13:46:26] <Bytram> so, mentioned it in the hopes that *should* something come up, it'll tickle someone's memory.
[13:47:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> is only one place where we'll be using encode_utf8, for display to admin.pl and for that it decodes all at once.
[13:47:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> will keep it in mind for writing the regexs to filter out things though.
[13:47:45] <Bytram> nod nod. You read me loud and clear! thanks!
[13:48:03] <Bytram> forewarned is four-armed, or something like that ;)
[13:48:14] * Bytram needs more coffee; brb
[13:49:31] <Bytram> before I go, and to get "the big picture", so your implementation just moves *everything* around as UTF-8? Text entry fields, database, etc.?
[13:49:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually, i'll probably just s/\x{0bad}//g the things we don't want out and if that breaks them trying to put a ligature on a right to left mark, so be it.
[13:50:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, yep except for one spot that i can't figure out why
[13:50:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - European Nations Back New Rules for Snubbing GM Crops - http://sylnt.us - Brussels-Sprouts++
[13:51:31] <Bytram> sounds good. I think we also need to keep an eye open for "nefarious" chars at the end of user-entered text; like RTL marks, etc.
[13:51:41] <Bytram> off 2 get cofee; brb
[13:52:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be because it's the only spot where text goes into a POST to be displayed immediately on another page rather than going to the db
[13:53:29] <Bytram> which spot is that?
[13:53:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> going from submit.pl to admin.pl
[13:54:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> for some reason admin.pl simply would not understand it was getting unicode, so i had to throw a encode around all the strings coming in.
[13:55:03] <Bytram> btw, one thing I've noticed in the currently-live code: I can cut-and-paste text into the story field; looks fine; hit preview; goes haywire with multi-byte stuff appearing where I'd seen single chars, before.
[13:55:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg, that'll go away.
[13:55:27] <Bytram> especially apparent for: apostrophe and mdash
[13:55:35] <Bytram> !woop
[13:55:35] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[13:55:40] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[13:55:40] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 12
[13:55:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> no conversion happening means less places for things to screw up
[13:56:25] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:57:19] <Bytram> submit--> admin; so I am looking at the submissions list page, and click on the link to a submission; is that what you're talking about?
[13:58:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> slightly after. when you hit preview on that submission to start editing and add a dept and such
[13:59:28] <Bytram> hmmm, okay...
[13:59:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> until then you're still on submit.pl
[14:00:16] <Bytram> ok. let me jump over to dev and try something.
[14:00:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> talking new system now though not the kludge on dev
[14:00:52] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I think the issue is that admin.pl did that silly scalar stuff with all the form values. I have not see this on ohter pl files
[14:00:59] <Bytram> understood; following the *path* but ignoring the *appearance*
[14:01:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> won't be seeing it until sometime next week.
[14:01:19] <Bytram> btw, Happy Father's Day!!!!!!
[14:01:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, quite possible. was an easy enough fix once i figured out where the text first went wrong though.
[14:03:19] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: you my want to see what breaks if we do not do that line at all and just let the form vars through without futzin with them
[14:04:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> monday i'll get a fresh pull and apply only what was actually necessary to it then put in a pull request. after that i'll start on making things happen the slash way instead of as what just worked for a quick fix.
[14:05:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, actually the text coming in was borked from the moment of getCurrentForm. it came in as url-encoded bytes.
[14:06:02] <crutchy> rsync over ssh too hard.... save for another day
[14:06:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> i've no idea why. i set the charset on the form and all
[14:07:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> but for now i'm not going to argue with working unless/until someone can figure out why and a fix so the encode isn't needed
[14:08:01] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: the enctype should have been set to multipart/form-data: No characters are encoded. This value is required when you are using forms that have a file upload control
[14:08:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> isn't a file upload though. still necessary you think?
[14:08:43] <paulej72> attribute ofn form tag
[14:09:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know accept-charset or whatever it was didn't help
[14:09:38] <Bytram> paulej72: Oops. I accidentally deleted your "test4" story submission to dev. Noticed the mistake, but couldn't stop it in time. I pologize.
[14:10:22] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: the forms I looked at on the site had the enctype set this val. It seemed like the best option.
[14:10:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, sounds good. i'll give it a try monday.
[14:11:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> could lead to a LOT of form changing though.
[14:11:15] <paulej72> Bytram: not a problem that was there to test the automatic addition of the link to the submitterβs name in into text
[14:11:47] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: it probably is already there, but might be miising
[14:12:20] <Bytram> whew!! Btw, there's a submission on the *real* sn by Gewg_; he has a note to the SN devs that it should NOT be automagically linking to a user page when there is none.
[14:12:56] <Bytram> paulej72: see: http://soylentnews.org
[14:12:57] <monopoly> Title: Humorous remarks from clueless colleagues: SoylentNews Submission
[14:12:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know it's not there on the template i added the charset to. was very little in the way of settings to the form.
[14:13:18] <paulej72> Bytram: It sould not be doing that, and it is Eds job to check for that
[14:13:47] <Bytram> here's his statement: "NOTE: The recently-modified scripts are *still* linkifying the names of people without a S/N account."
[14:13:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> will also need to check the template admin.pl uses then because edits of existing stories were screwing up too.
[14:14:01] <Bytram> I was wondering...
[14:14:19] <Bytram> we already extract a list of URLs from a submission, right?
[14:14:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[14:14:58] <Bytram> how hard would it be to iterate through aech of them and check if we get a 404 when trying to retrieve each of them?
[14:15:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's in with the filters that get rid of high unicode
[14:15:24] <paulej72> Bytram: that sub does not atuto link, so it could be an ed making the mistake
[14:15:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, bad idea. we'd end up like crutchy and downloading firefox every time someone wanted to be a wiseass.
[14:16:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> spose we could use head instead of get but still
[14:16:24] <Bytram> ouch. okay, isn't there a way to get just the "head" of a document?
[14:16:28] <Bytram> oh. nod nod.
[14:17:02] <paulej72> Eds got to do their job at some point :)
[14:17:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> rather just let people in the comments catch bad links myself. somewhat of a tradition.
[14:17:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> as is giving eds shit for missing one
[14:17:57] <Bytram> well, I've noticed that for the past several days, at least, stories are coming in with the submitter's name *already* encased with a "byline"
[14:18:37] <paulej72> If you look at my code, it checks the name in the sbmission field ad sees if it is a vaild SN user, if so create the link.
[14:18:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> .... i wonder... do we use ispell for the eds on dev/live?
[14:19:31] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I think we may have deactivated that becasue ispell was being a resorce hog, but I am not 100% on that. NCommander would know for sure.
[14:19:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know it's in the code that we can but it's not used on the vm.
[14:19:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[14:20:19] <Bytram> paulej72: ok, that's great! So I wonder how Gewg_ 's nick got linked in the submittal?
[14:20:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't matter really. most any browser will use some spellchecking on any editable text field whether or not you're the one who filled it in.
[14:20:44] <paulej72> Plus most people have spell check int their browsers,
[14:20:51] <Bytram> ^^^ does for me with FF.
[14:21:02] <crutchy> ~part
[14:21:03] -!- exec [exec!~exec@709-27-2-01.cust.aussiebb.net] has parted #Soylent
[14:21:24] <Bytram> at least, I turned on the option to do so in my browser. don't know if that is a default or not.
[14:21:34] <paulej72> Bytram: the submittal you linked to Greg_ is not linked.
[14:21:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> might put an issue up to rip out ispell code later then.
[14:21:56] <paulej72> ~part crutchy
[14:22:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> very, very low priority though
[14:22:11] <paulej72> does not work
[14:22:51] <Bytram> paulej72: ugh. I *definitely* am under-caffienated! Saw his remark, but didn't notice it was *not* "byline"d.
[14:23:00] <Bytram> blegh.
[14:23:09] * Bytram takes another big swallow of coffee
[14:23:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, need more of that stuff
[14:25:42] <paulej72> There are times when I doulle check red stories by just going in and click on all of the links and then checking if FF or Safari see any spelling mistakes in the copy. I also make sure spaces and punctuation are not part of links.
[14:26:33] <Bytram> thanks for that! There are times that my eyes start to "swim" when reviewing a story.
[14:28:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, a bit of OCD tends to make you do a better job than the norm, yep.
[14:32:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, pwik is missing all the https traffic for users unless they specifically allow mixed content. it uses an http link to stats and that gets blocked for me by default.
[14:33:37] * Bytram is waiting for the first, non-english submission in UTF-8... that'll make life interesting for the editors! I mean, however am I gonna spell check THAT?
[14:33:42] <Bytram> =)
[14:34:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, heh, you don't. you just reject it.
[14:34:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> for us, unicode is only for left n right quotes, emdash, apostrophe, etc...
[14:36:02] <Bytram> Yeah, for now, I guess so. Far be it for us to post, unknowingly, senditious articles or the like! I can't think of anything better as an alternative.
[14:36:42] <Bytram> but, that only handles the stories; comments would have full use of the entire UTF-8 character set. :/
[14:37:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> unicode working will be more for anyone else wanting to use the project with a non-ascii charset language than us.
[14:37:36] <Bytram> only so much we can do; besides, we specifically state that "Comments are owned by the poster" and that we are not responsible for them in any way.
[14:38:11] <Bytram> like, IIRC, the japanese variant of slash?
[14:38:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, though i think theirs already works. ditto chinese.
[14:39:23] <Bytram> neat!
[14:40:21] <Bytram> I went looking on thedailywtf for "intersting" utf chars, but it looks like they changed their site since last I looked and couldn't find anything off hand.
[14:41:03] <Bytram> too bad. there was a post there, once, which made use of different kinds of spaces to encode a javascript program. really amazing, that.
[14:43:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> funky
[14:46:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> kinda hard to grep what to filter out of google
[14:47:35] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: OMG, found it! Keep reading, you'll find it here: http://forums.thedailywtf.com
[14:47:37] <monopoly> Title: Long variable names can be helpfully descriptive, but ... - TDWTF Forums
[14:50:00] * Bytram munches popcorn and waits...
[14:53:45] <crutchy> that 2nd last post reminds me of the js in a google page
[14:53:57] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:54:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> read part of it, got bored, went back to looking for a good list of what all to filter out of unicode text.
[14:54:38] <Bytram> the code between the apostrophes contains 1153 bytes. O_o
[14:56:19] <Bytram> or, maybe, 847; I got conflicting results from my version of "wc"
[14:56:23] <crutchy> can see it if you select windows-1252 char encoding in browser
[14:57:36] <Bytram> hmmm, I think I run with UTF-8.
[14:57:42] <crutchy> ISO-8859-1 also shows it
[14:58:28] <crutchy> i think that was where my 'dream' about bit-shifting to convert between charsets was going
[14:59:01] * Bytram shudders to think what crutchy considers to be a nightmare.
[14:59:01] <crutchy> utf-8 prolly has Γ’β¬βΉΓ’β¬βΉΓ’β¬βΉ, just with different ordinals
[14:59:29] <crutchy> need some sort of ordinal charset conversion map
[15:01:48] <Bytram> got a few things to take care of; afk for a while
[15:01:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep
[15:01:54] Bytram is now known as Bytram|afk
[15:02:43] <crutchy> ~time ny
[15:02:54] <crutchy> oops
[15:03:14] <crutchy> $time ny
[15:03:15] <aqu4> Sun 2014-06-15 01:03:13 PM ny
[15:03:41] <crutchy> hmm don't think that would be right
[15:03:58] <crutchy> $time EDT
[15:03:58] <aqu4> Sun 2014-06-15 01:03:57 PM EDT
[15:04:10] <crutchy> $time CDT
[15:04:10] <aqu4> Sun 2014-06-15 01:04:09 PM CDT
[15:04:19] <crutchy> $time PDT
[15:04:19] <aqu4> Sun 2014-06-15 01:04:18 PM PDT
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[15:04:34] <crutchy> $time UTC
[15:04:35] <aqu4> Sun 2014-06-15 01:04:33 PM UTC
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[15:08:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> β«do not want RTL marks
[15:10:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> do not want control characters like u+0007
[15:11:03] <crutchy> as long as we can use a steaming shit glyph in comments, it's aaaaaaaaall good :-P
[15:13:28] <Bytram|afk> TheMightyBuzzard: came back to say exactly that; also, I think we might want to convert all variants of a space character to 0x20;
[15:14:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> could but why bother? put them in the whitespace check.
[15:14:17] <Bytram|afk> sounds better!
[15:15:23] <Bytram|afk> according to "Ben L." in that same thread, "Holy fuck property names can contain 26 kinds of whitespace
[15:15:23] <Bytram|afk> window[' αα ββββββ
βββββββ―ββ γο»Ώ'] = ..."
[15:15:57] <crutchy> just a simple character whitelist string constant... everything else gets filtered out
[15:16:28] <Bytram|afk> simple, yes, but we just have to remember do it.
[15:17:15] <crutchy> is there a filter function for comments/stories already? to stop injection
[15:17:33] <crutchy> (assuming there would be)
[15:17:36] <Bytram|afk> also, I just remembered that there are some text-entry fields in the user profile area (sig, bio, etc.); need to check those, too.
[15:19:45] <crutchy> i also used a blacklist array of strings that might potentially be used maliciously
[15:20:42] <Bytram|afk> crutchy: s/strings/ββββ
ββββββ/
[15:20:42] <SedBot> <Bytram|afk> <crutchy> i also used a blacklist array of ββββ
ββββββ that might potentially be used maliciously
[15:21:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, yes. it's enabled on live but disabled on dev
[15:21:11] <crutchy> things like '<script'
[15:21:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, no worries there.
[15:21:49] <Bytram|afk> nod nod; there is a whitelist of permitted HTML elements.
[15:21:59] <crutchy> ah
[15:22:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> put all the javascript you want in comments or submissions and they get turned into >/</etc...
[15:22:41] <crutchy> htmlspecialchars++
[15:22:41] <Bender> karma - htmlspecialchars: 1
[15:24:30] * Bytram|afk wishes the whitelist allowed "<strike>" or "<del>"
[15:24:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> there we go, got conky working with unicode
[15:24:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be added, put in an issue for it
[15:25:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> we'll have a good argue then either add or not add them.
[15:25:34] <crutchy> don't forget <marquee>
[15:25:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, fu
[15:25:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> blink or gtfo
[15:26:19] <crutchy> isn't there a css blink?
[15:26:22] <Bytram|afk> <blink><marquee>Yeah, right!</marquee></blink>
[15:26:27] <Bytram|afk> yes
[15:26:36] <Bytram|afk> well, I think there is.
[15:26:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg. css is too newfangled for me.
[15:26:46] <crutchy> are style attribs enabled?
[15:27:04] <crutchy> or are they fuglified too?
[15:27:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, reminds me. you want a complete font, try Unifont CSUR
[15:27:31] <crutchy> hmm i guess if they were could do some funky shit with the page layout
[15:27:47] <Bytram|afk> crutchy: you mean like: "<p style="color:red;">red text</p>"
[15:28:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> not as pretty as some and smaller than most fonts but is hands down the most complete font.
[15:28:12] <Bytram|afk> crutchy: you mean like: "<p style="width: 9999em;">wide text</p>"
[15:28:28] <Bytram|afk> TheMightyBuzzard: where to get it?
[15:28:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://unifoundry.com
[15:28:54] <monopoly> Title: GNU Unifont Glyphs
[15:29:09] <Bytram|afk> on my way! thanks!
[15:29:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> get the bottom TTF one
[15:29:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> or rather the one just above it
[15:29:25] <Bytram|afk> kthnx
[15:29:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> or both i guess. they compliment rather than conflict
[15:29:50] <crutchy> <p style="color: red; } html { color: white;">nfi if this would work</p>
[15:31:06] <Bytram|afk> TheMightyBuzzard: You mean the 12MB one? http://unifoundry.com
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[15:31:10] <monopoly> Filetype: TrueType font data (11 MiB)
[15:31:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> that and the 1mb both
[15:31:36] <crutchy> fuck 11mb font file!
[15:31:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> very large font
[15:32:30] <Bytram|afk> ugh, wait a minute. there are two fonts @ 12MB and two @ 1MB; so, which of these do you recommend? TrueType:
[15:32:30] <Bytram|afk> The Standard Unifont TTF Download: unifont-6.3.20140214.ttf (12 Mbytes)
[15:32:30] <Bytram|afk> Glyphs above the Unicode Basic Multilingual Plane: unifont_upper-6.3.20140214.ttf (1 Mbyte)
[15:32:30] <Bytram|afk> Unicode Basic Multilingual Plane with CSUR PUA Glyphs: unifont_csur-6.3.20140214.ttf (12 Mbytes)
[15:32:30] <Bytram|afk> Glyphs above the Unicode Basic Multilingual Plane with CSUR PUA Glyphs: unifont_upper_csur-6.3.20140214.ttf (1 Mbyte)
[15:32:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> "with glyphs for every printable code point in the Unicode 6.3 Basic Multilingual Plane"
[15:32:43] <crutchy> does it have glyphs of penises?
[15:32:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram|afk, both. they compliment not conflict
[15:33:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, misread, sorry
[15:33:04] <crutchy> and robocop?
[15:33:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> grab the bottom set
[15:33:19] <Bytram|afk> So, the 3rd and 4th in the above list?
[15:33:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[15:33:36] <Bytram|afk> on my way; thanks!
[15:33:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> they do not however contain the dog poop glyph
[15:34:10] <crutchy> zomg! no dog poop!?
[15:34:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, nope. have to go out in the yard n supply your own.
[15:34:36] <Bytram|afk> oh, shit!
[15:34:38] <Bytram|afk> ;)
[15:34:50] <crutchy> nope, sorry... no shit
[15:35:00] <Bytram|afk> lol!
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[15:55:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... my fb script needs to truncate extremely long posts.
[15:57:53] <Bytram|afk> fb?
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