#Soylent | Logs for 2014-06-11
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[23:58:56] <crutchy> time to go... catch yas later
[23:52:13] <crutchy> yup definitely going for a 2nd
[23:50:57] <crutchy> thinking about a second
[23:50:45] <crutchy> halway through first
[23:50:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 235
[23:50:37] <crutchy> coffee++
[23:50:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 234
[23:50:20] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[23:50:16] <Blackmoore> go get your coffee++
[23:50:06] <chromas> ☺
[23:50:05] <Blackmoore> mornin crutchy
[23:50:00] <chromas> Well if you had gotten up early…
[23:49:28] <chromas> oh
[23:49:26] <crutchy> sad thing is its not early :-/
[23:49:13] <exec> [Google] 7:49am Thursday (EST) - Time in Melbourne VIC, Australia
[23:49:12] <crutchy> ~time melbourne
[23:48:45] <chromas> Waking early means more hacking tiem
[23:48:09] <crutchy> retro
[23:47:35] <chromas> Hey Sophie B. Crutchins
[23:46:56] <crutchy> mornin all
[23:46:38] <crutchy> coffee/++/damn/i/wish/i/was/still/asleep.pm
[23:41:59] <paulej72> NCommander: plugins/Login/Login.pm may have some stuff that overrides User.pm
[23:40:07] <NCommander> paulej72, Slash/Apache/User/User.pm
[23:38:07] <paulej72> NCommander: 2 I have not looked at the specific code that actually does the login and cookit set so I can’t comment on this other than to say that issues due to proxies and nats seem to be a major issue that needs to be solved.
[23:36:33] <paulej72> NCommander: 1 most people should have there cookie set to everywhere instead of the default subnet as it seems most people use a mobile device as well as a fixed one.
[23:36:03] <chromas> (or Yous)
[23:35:40] <chromas> Is there going to be a nexus for cooking and recipes? SoylentChews
[23:35:08] <NCommander> paulej72, any ideas about the cookie issues? I'm kinda of the feeling the vast majority of login code needs to be torched and burned
[23:32:56] <paulej72> lol chromas
[23:32:39] <chromas> oh my font makes the 2 look like 1
[23:32:27] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm meeting matt_ in about 30 minutes to talk about incorporation shit
[23:32:18] <chromas> paulej72: did you lose 1?
[23:32:09] <NCommander> paulej72, dealing with a bug in UEFI
[23:31:36] <chromas> It's also my password
[23:31:33] <paulej72> NCommander: what is up?
[23:31:31] <chromas> *******
[23:31:14] <chromas> NCommander n eeds a swearbot
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[22:43:06] <Subsentient> .lol
[22:41:53] <Blackmoore> that's good. because running a trace through ASM by hand you'll apreciate it.
[22:36:26] <Subsentient> My code looks almost as clean as python imho
[22:32:43] <Subsentient> Blackmoore: I do however take great pleasure in making my code nice, clean, and readable. I am vehemently pro-tab and pro-4-space-makes-a-tab, and I am also very pro-Allman braces
[22:32:40] <Blackmoore> i also like getting it to do crap that was not allowed in higher languages..
[22:32:13] <Blackmoore> I really LIKED asm.
[22:31:44] <Blackmoore> so very true. I only put my toe into ASM for the 6502 back in the stone age.
[22:30:29] <Subsentient> Blackmoore: you can mess with pointer and do lots of cool non-standard-compliant stuff, but if you are like me and are both a language lawyer and love low level, you need ASM. I am learning said ASM.\
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[22:29:08] <blackmoore|lunch> ah c. a computer language where you really feel like you're hacking the hardware.
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[21:31:56] <Subsentient> static Bool TraverseDirectory(const char *const Directory_, Bool (*Function)(struct FileRecord*)) {}
[21:31:10] <Subsentient> DrMag: if (!Function(&Record)) { free(Record.FilePath); return false; }
[21:30:42] <Subsentient> .... 266
[21:29:46] <monopoly> Filetype: C source, ASCII text (365 lines, 9 KiB)
[21:29:46] <Subsentient> DrMag: Here: http://universe2.us on line.....
[21:29:43] <DrMag> *grammar. And spelling.
[21:29:35] <DrMag> *more clear. I need to re-learn my grammer.
[21:29:21] <DrMag> Ah, ok. That's clearer.
[21:29:00] <Subsentient> I use something like that in my current project Septachoron
[21:28:50] <Subsentient> So you can make a function accept a function pointer as a parameter
[21:28:32] <Subsentient> it lets you choose which function to run without actually checking in the function you'll call it from
[21:28:30] <DrMag> Ok, that almost makes sense.
[21:27:55] <Subsentient> DrMag: A pointer to a function is used so that functions that return the same thing and accept the same parameters can be assigned to a pointer like that, and then you can call the function pointer like a function so long as it points to a function that matches it's type.
[21:27:01] <DrMag> =) fair enough. What would you use it for, though?
[21:26:48] <Subsentient> If you ever write code like that you need to get your mind checked and your compiler confiscated.
[21:26:26] <Subsentient> It's valid tho
[21:26:21] <Subsentient> DrMag: Actually that's a tongue twister I throw at people to see if they know C well enough.
[21:25:53] <DrMag> Which doesn't make an LED blink, but I'm sure it has a use somewhere. =D
[21:25:39] <Subsentient> DrMag: :^3
[21:25:24] <Subsentient> it's an array of 2 pointer to a function returning a pointer to a const short, accepting a pointer to an array of 10 int as parameters, and initialized to NULL without a macro (NULL is a macro)
[21:24:46] <DrMag> Would love to learn, though.. just got to convince my employers to let me have more time to explore.
[21:24:20] <Subsentient> DrMag: lol ;^)
[21:24:04] <DrMag> No clue; hence I feel the call to repentance.
[21:23:53] <Subsentient> DrMag: So what is it? :^3
[21:23:34] <DrMag> No need to cheat; I feel the call to repentance. =)
[21:23:21] <mechanicjay> NCommander: I thought you'd like that :)
[21:22:55] <Subsentient> DrMag: No cheating.
[21:22:44] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Bender for interrupting Subsentient's test of DrMag
[21:22:43] <Subsentient> $burrito Bender for interrupting Subsentient's test of DrMag
[21:22:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Decision Making May Be Random Brain Electrical Noise - http://sylnt.us - random-noise-is-where-I-get-the
[21:22:02] <Subsentient> DrMag: Depends. What's this? const short *(*gerbil[2])(int (*derp)[10]) = (void*)0;
[21:20:27] <NCommander> mechanicjay, REPENT, FOR THAT BOOK IS PURE EVIL
[21:20:22] <DrMag> Subsentient: Does it help that I also do microcontroller and FPGA programming? =)
[21:19:38] <Subsentient> DrMag: Repent, VHLL doer!
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[20:59:51] <mechanicjay> I found something buried on the bookshelves when we were moving offices a couple weeks ago: http://archives.smbfc.net
[20:58:27] <DrMag> python is particularly useful to us when you add numpy and matplotlib.
[20:58:06] <DrMag> It seems a lot of people in the sciences are moving toward python, so there's that too.
[20:57:49] <DrMag> NCommander: perhaps; I've used some perl, and found python to be more intuitive myself.
[20:48:11] * NCommander notes its generally the last thing I still use perl for
[20:48:03] <NCommander> DrMag, I actually find perl bindings are generally simplier than python ones
[20:41:38] <DrMag> Some things never change.
[20:40:35] <blackmoore|lunch> mm. retro news from 1980
[20:40:17] <monopoly> Title: "5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... Goodbye, Columbia" by Gregg Easterbrook
[20:40:16] <blackmoore|lunch> http://www.washingtonmonthly.com
[20:34:24] <DrMag> On a related note, I saw that Dave Jones has gotten his hands on a genuine Saturn V LVDC. Should make for an interesting video when he gets that done up.
[20:33:38] <DrMag> Python is a good way to glue all the (legacy) code together, though.
[20:33:11] <DrMag> Fortunately, the rockets don't run python.
[20:33:03] <DrMag> =)
[20:29:53] <paulej72> python and rocket science: syntax error :P
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[20:28:54] <DrMag> Hopefully they're paying attention. I'm just here assisting in python instruction, they're all here to learn it. But if there are that many soylentils at NASA, that's awesome. =)
[20:28:02] <paulej72> :)
[20:27:58] <paulej72> DrMag: some network links are slower than others and maybe all of the users in the meeting were tring to connect to SN
[20:27:36] <NCommander> I'm having issues with network connectivity, but not to SN
[20:27:15] <DrMag> Other sites were coming up alright, so I wondered if it was on the soylent end.
[20:27:01] <DrMag> paulej72: I'm in a meeting with a swamped network, so that may be it.
[20:26:39] <paulej72> DrMag: nothing strange on the seen in the linode dashboard for the servers.
[20:25:05] <DrMag> It's coming up now. Thanks.
[20:24:31] <paulej72> DrMag: it was a bit slow for me but connected
[20:23:17] <DrMag> soylentnews.org is timing out on me... is it just my connection?
[20:21:45] <NCommander> my eyes, they burn
[20:20:14] <paulej72> see Apache.pm 525-545
[20:20:06] * NCommander still agrees we should change it
[20:20:02] <NCommander> paulej72, yeah, but we're using htmlrefs (which honestly we shouldn't be but ...), does encoding actually matter?
[20:19:51] <paulej72> same for hof.pl
[20:18:40] <paulej72> NCommander: authors will still fire up an .shtml file because of a hard coded redirect in Apache.pm
[20:15:59] <NCommander> I thought with the dynamicifcation of about/faq, they were all essentially gone
[20:15:49] <NCommander> paulej72, do we have any .shtml files anymore?
[20:15:20] <paulej72> AddType text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 .shtml
[20:15:19] <paulej72> # if you change "content_type_webpage" in vars, and vice versa
[20:15:18] <paulej72> # change default of "iso-8859-1" here (to, for example, utf-8)
[20:15:04] <paulej72> NCommander: In /srv/soylentnews.org/slashcode/site/soylent-mainpage/soylent-mainpage.conf there is this bit of code near the bottom
[20:06:50] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, poke
[20:02:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Creator of Calvin & Hobbes Returns for Three Guest Strips - http://sylnt.us - I-should-start-demanding-full-page-color-department-names
[20:00:15] <NCommander> As soon as we can get fix the WHOIS information on the domain, we can get a wildcard certificate issued
[20:00:00] <DrMag> Great news!
[19:59:53] <NCommander> w0000000t!
[19:59:53] <NCommander> Congratulations! Your Class 2 Identity Validation has been confirmed and approved. You are eligible for certificates at Class 2 level until 2015-05-27.
[19:59:36] <paulej72> I have reverted the database to what we had on Monday night, so the new posts with the utf8 stuff are now gone. we will need to retest this to make sure that none of that stuff is what was breaking the db.
[19:58:21] <paulej72> Ok everyone who was testing on dev. I think i broke the db the other night by accidentially pasing the code from the user.pl file into my mysql session.
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[19:28:04] * Subsentient wonders what he missed
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[19:20:04] <boioioing> Yeah, I have one too but only to claim my "professional" username. I don't think I've ever actually used it for anything
[19:18:23] <NCommander> I have a twitter but I never could get into it
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[18:56:21] <SirFinkus> since it seems to be how websites communicate downtime and shit these days
[18:56:02] <SirFinkus> I don't either, I basically use at as an read only rss feed
[18:55:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> then again I don't understand the appeal or popularity of Twitter
[18:55:13] <SirFinkus> it's an osx twitter client, really popular
[18:55:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> I've used Twitter and I'd also prefer the holodeck
[18:54:52] <DrMag> Even with the official definition, I'm still not entirely sure what it is.
[18:53:38] <DrMag> Since I don't use twitter.. I'd prefer the holodeck. =)
[18:53:21] <DrMag> The most powerful Twitter tool for real-time tracking, organizing and engagement.
[18:53:21] <DrMag> From their website, it is apparantly this:
[18:49:25] * Bytram|away has no idea, either. :/
[18:49:13] <boioioing> lol
[18:48:53] <Bytram|away> it's a holodeck for birds. ;)
[18:46:59] <boioioing> that would probably be a lot more amusing if I knew what a "tweetdeck" is.
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[18:46:11] <Bytram|afk> have fun folks! out for the rest of the day.
[18:45:43] * Bytram|afk hums Rockin' Robin .... Tweet! Tweet! Tweet Tweet!
[18:45:25] <monopoly> Title: TROUBLE IN THE BABBLECHANNEL: TweetDeck XSSed • The Register
[18:45:24] <SirFinkus> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[18:44:23] <SirFinkus> lmao, there's some xss bug in tweetdeck and apparently thousands of people are sending out tweets without their knowledge
[18:31:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Protests Order for Email Stored Abroad - http://sylnt.us - potential-for-more-damage-to-US-businesses
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[17:39:27] <Blackmoore> mornin
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[17:37:11] <Bytram> I'll leave the window open til I have to leave.
[17:36:55] <Bytram> hate to greet and run, but I really do need to get going.
[17:36:39] <Bytram> when you have a chance, you might want to scroll back on #staff. Got some strange stuff happening with two comments on DEV.soylentnews.org
[17:35:32] <Bytram> I was just about to head to the shower; hope you're well rested!
[17:35:15] <Bytram> NCommander: g'morning!
[17:34:18] <SirFinkus> morning
[17:34:05] <NCommander> morning
[17:32:46] <Bytram> I need coffee, a shower, and to head out for the day job.
[17:32:31] <Bytram> blegh.
[17:32:24] <Bytram> oops; I mis-read. I take back the last comment.
[17:31:44] <Bytram> unfortunately, they *all* seem to have that title. :/
[17:31:15] <ar> >Hopefully this converts and gets stored properly. Ꮄ Ꮅ Ꮆ Ꮇ Ꮈ Ꮉ Ꮊ Ꮋ Ꮌ
[17:31:01] <SirFinkus> haha, now I do too, maybe I didn't notice it at first, sorry
[17:30:37] <Bytram> which also happens to be paulej72's *reply* to paulej72's *first* comment.
[17:29:20] <Bytram> I also get the 503 on the *parent* to LaminatorX's first comment.
[17:28:38] <SirFinkus> everything else works though, as long as I don't expand that comment, or choose a threading option that displays it
[17:27:59] <Bytram> I can confirm the 503 on checomp's comment.
[17:27:29] <SirFinkus> every time I try and expand that one I get 503
[17:27:10] <SirFinkus> checomp's comment is what is giving me issues
[17:27:03] <Bytram> it seems to me that paul's 2nd comment is giving me problems, but it's hard to tell with the formatting that I'm getting with Lynx
[17:26:32] <Bytram> ding ding ding!
[17:26:26] <SirFinkus> 503
[17:26:22] <SirFinkus> oh, just changed the comment display to flat and it died
[17:25:40] <SirFinkus> everything seems to display correctly as well
[17:25:17] <SirFinkus> yep, works
[17:24:51] <Bytram> SirFinkus: "works"? You get the page? Can you read *all* of the comments? I'm getting a 503 on paulej72's comment.
[17:24:05] <SirFinkus> Bytram, works if I log in :/
[17:22:40] <Bytram> SirFinkus: I *am* logged in. let me try it with lynx. brb
[17:22:19] <SirFinkus> I'm not logged into the dev site, might be a clue
[17:22:02] <SirFinkus> hmm
[17:21:55] <Bytram> SirFinkus: Really? I get the 503 every single time.
[17:21:10] <SirFinkus> works on my machine (tm)
[17:20:59] <Bytram> Varnish cache server
[17:20:59] <Bytram> XID: 1333171057
[17:20:59] <Bytram> Guru Meditation:
[17:20:59] <Bytram> Service Unavailable
[17:20:59] <Bytram> here's what I get: Error 503 Service Unavailable
[17:20:33] <monopoly> Title: Dev.SN | something or other Ꮄ Ꮅ Ꮆ Ꮇ Ꮈ Ꮉ &#505
[17:20:32] <Bytram> otoh, this link: http://dev.soylentnews.org keeps giving me an "Error 503 Service Unavailable"
[17:19:47] <Bytram> SirFinkus: same here, but at least the story LOADS okay (that's just a problem, I think, in choosing the right character set to display the UTF-8 symbols)...
[17:18:57] <SirFinkus> I get ??? for most of of NCommander's comment on the jp char test
[17:18:35] <Bytram> Woods: can you confirm the behavior on the other links I just posted?
[17:17:52] * Bytram noticed that monopoly didn't get the title for the JP char test article?!?
[17:17:18] <monopoly> Title: Dev.SN | Nexus Test
[17:17:17] <Bytram> Woods: as well as the "Nexus Test" story: http://meta.dev.soylentnews.org
[17:16:44] <Bytram> Woods: Looks like I can load the story "JP char test" okay too: http://meta.dev.soylentnews.org
[17:16:06] <Bytram> I've noted it in #staff but was looking for independent verification.
[17:15:47] <monopoly> Title: Dev.SN | html encoded unicode test
[17:15:46] <Bytram> the next story which shows it has comments: http://meta.dev.soylentnews.org seems to load okay for me.
[17:15:11] <Woods> Bytram: Same here, how odd.
[17:15:04] <ar> there
[17:15:02] <ar> 69.164.201.93
[17:14:27] <Woods> I should have not said my IP on a public forum like this.
[17:14:25] <monopoly> Title: Dev.SN | something or other Ꮄ Ꮅ Ꮆ Ꮇ Ꮈ Ꮉ &#505
[17:14:24] <Bytram> hey folks! I'm seing some wierdness on the dev server; anyone want to confirm? Try opening the comments page for this story: http://dev.soylentnews.org
[17:14:13] <Woods> SirFinkus: Oh snap.
[17:14:12] <SirFinkus> you're in for it now
[17:14:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> everybody wants a v8, nobody wants a v6.
[17:14:02] <SirFinkus> Woods: I'm pointing my 100gbps botnet at you
[17:13:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> they really should have called it IPv8 instead of IPv6
[17:13:30] <Woods> I made mine 127.0.0.1 on all of my devices, WAY easier to remember.
[17:13:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> my IP address is ::1 and I like it that way!
[17:12:46] <Woods> Might as well make it 4 characters instead of three.
[17:12:42] <SirFinkus> megacorp.marketing.team1.johndoe
[17:12:28] <Bytram> Woods: NOW you're talking! <grin>
[17:12:24] <SirFinkus> you should be able to use abstract concepts for ips
[17:12:18] <Azrael> Hi all
[17:12:15] * Azrael is glad the conversation finally came down to his level
[17:12:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Big Brother: Meet the Parents - http://sylnt.us - surprise-surprise!
[17:12:01] <Bytram> Azrael: LOL!
[17:12:00] <Woods> We should allow hex, AND double the number of octets
[17:11:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> because if not, I want Zzz.Zzz.Zzz.Zzz
[17:11:53] <Azrael> or numbers as words? ahundredandnintytwo.ahundredandsixyeight.zero.one
[17:11:52] <SirFinkus> get on my level
[17:11:47] <SirFinkus> 💩.💩.💩.💩
[17:11:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> Bytram: is "zzz.zzz.zzz.zzz" going to be the same as "ZZZ.ZZZ.ZZZ.ZZZ"?
[17:11:12] <Woods> I like where you are going with that hex thing, Bytram
[17:11:09] * Bytram claims dibs on "zzz.zzz.zzz.zzz." =)
[17:10:58] <Bytram> heck, use *any* character in each of the four positions!
[17:10:36] <SirFinkus> computers would be 10x as fast
[17:10:30] <SirFinkus> why don't we just use normal numbers?
[17:10:24] <Woods> As far as we know.
[17:10:22] <Bytram> SirFinkus: And why stop there? allow any hex char!
[17:10:20] <Azrael> you'd need to reserve 911.911.911.911 for emergency services (and 999.999.999.999 of course)
[17:10:18] <SirFinkus> computers use binary right?
[17:10:12] <SirFinkus> while we're on the subject
[17:10:07] <Woods> Nice idea, I totally helped.
[17:09:53] <Azrael> :D
[17:09:51] <Woods> Yeah.
[17:09:49] <SirFinkus> I'm a genius
[17:09:46] <SirFinkus> man, I should be on the board that decides these things
[17:09:37] <SirFinkus> why don't we just allow all the 3 digit numbers instead of only 0-255
[17:09:17] <SirFinkus> well, I have an idea
[17:08:55] <Woods> lol
[17:08:52] <Woods> Related: In Watchdogs, they use IPv6, at least our games have begun moving on.
[17:08:52] <SirFinkus> lol
[17:08:26] <Azrael> I heard we can double the amount we have if we start using them backwards as well as forwards
[17:07:50] <Blackmoore> true; I thought people were re-allocating already
[17:07:33] <Woods> SirFinkus: Ditto, I remember hearing that we were out of IPs like... Two years ago.
[17:07:27] <Bytram> that's assuming, of course, that no black-market springs up to re-allocate existing IPV4 addresses. :)
[17:07:17] <SirFinkus> I suspect there's a little "boy who cried wolf" going on right now
[17:06:00] <Bytram> SirFinkus: My understanding is that the various registration authorities are starting to receive (or already have received) their last allocations; then it's a matter of how long before they've handed all of those out.
[17:04:38] <SirFinkus> so how long before we actually run out of ipv4 addresses? I read about how we're totally out every 3-4 months
[17:03:47] <Blackmoore> it's the only thing i can think of to get the hell out of here
[17:03:24] <Blackmoore> I need to get my programming chops back. and start putting out games for android
[17:02:48] <Blackmoore> mostly email and phone. It isnt awful, the pay is ok. and the coworkers are decent.
[16:55:05] <Woods> At least you get to meet interesting people... ?
[16:54:38] <Woods> Oy
[16:42:33] <Blackmoore> i help reseller jump through hoops.
[16:42:12] <Blackmoore> I'm in software distribution. I'm not exactly sales, or processing kinda someplace inbetween.
[16:32:31] <Woods> Blackmoore: What do you do for a living? If you do not mind me asking.
[16:04:26] <Blackmoore> and frankly it's boring me to sleep.
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[15:59:21] <monopoly> Title: Why You Hate Work - NYTimes.com
[15:59:20] <Blackmoore> http://www.nytimes.com
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[15:57:59] <Blackmoore> mornin AndyTheAbsurd
[15:57:36] <Blackmoore> the work I like and want to do has nothing to do with what I am getting paid to do. just because i'm good at it doesnt mean i like it.
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[15:48:04] <DrMag> I just dislike *having* to work.
[15:48:00] <DrMag> I actually like working,
[15:47:57] <Bender> karma - work: -4
[15:47:57] <DrMag> work++
[15:46:34] * AndyTheAbsurd will stop spamming the channel now
[15:46:24] <Bender> karma - work: -5
[15:46:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> work--
[15:46:23] <Bender> karma - work: -4
[15:46:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> work--
[15:46:23] <Bender> karma - work: -3
[15:46:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> work--
[15:46:22] <Bender> karma - work: -2
[15:46:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> work--
[15:46:21] <Bender> karma - work: -1
[15:46:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> work--
[15:46:18] <Bender> karma - cubicles: -2
[15:46:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> cubicles--
[15:44:12] <Bender> karma - cubicles: -1
[15:44:12] <DrMag> cubicles--
[15:44:07] <DrMag> It's a shame that to enjoy life we have to slave away all day, leaving no time to enjoy life. =(
[15:43:34] <Blackmoore> but i gots bills to pays.
[15:42:59] <Blackmoore> the lack of sleep and being stuck in a cubicle for 8-9 hours - with work that doesnt intrest me is the problem
[15:41:53] <Blackmoore> ar, - i'm working on 4 hours of sleep. the coffee isnt the problem .
[15:40:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - RIAA Revenue Drops - http://sylnt.us - but-how-will-they-recompense-the-artists?
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[15:35:44] <DrMag> That's what I could use right now.
[15:35:40] <Bender> karma - grapejuice: 1
[15:35:40] <DrMag> GrapeJuice++
[15:34:59] <ar> Blackmoore: especially if you can't function normally without it
[15:34:46] <ar> Blackmoore: you shouldn't upvote it, if you're addicted to it
[15:34:17] <ar> neither am i
[15:34:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 233
[15:34:11] <ar> coffee--
[15:33:06] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[15:30:08] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v mechanicjay] by juggler
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[15:25:27] <DrMag> though sometimes I don't intend it.. reading textbooks and journal articles is... numbing, sometimes.
[15:24:17] <DrMag> Well, for me 'sneak' really is the key word there. ;-)
[15:19:09] <Blackmoore> wish i could.
[15:11:49] <DrMag> I always end up sneaking in a nap or three during my day.
[15:11:37] <Blackmoore> not sure if i really want to call the office sludge coffee tho
[15:11:32] <DrMag> To be fair, I can relate.
[15:11:18] <Blackmoore> :P I desperetely need mine.
[15:10:27] <DrMag> Not a fan. =)
[15:10:25] <Bender> karma - coffee: 234
[15:10:25] <DrMag> coffee--
[15:10:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 235
[15:10:02] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[15:09:30] <Blackmoore> mornin all
[15:09:15] blacklmoore|afk is now known as Blackmoore
[15:09:08] <blacklmoore|afk> night crutchy
[15:09:00] <crutchy> night #soylent
[15:08:51] <crutchy> time for me to pike out
[15:08:20] <exec> [Google] 11:08pm Wednesday (EST) - Time in Melbourne VIC, Australia
[15:08:19] <crutchy> ~time melbourne
[15:06:22] <exec> [Google] 9:06am Wednesday (EDT) - Time in Washington, DC, USA
[15:06:21] <crutchy> ~time usa
[15:03:13] <crutchy> g'day
[15:03:07] <DrMag> Good morning, everyone.
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[15:02:50] <crutchy> where i work
[15:02:43] <crutchy> we use a little delphi program for that
[15:00:29] <crutchy> that sounds bad'
[15:00:25] <crutchy> ah. for work
[15:00:05] <Woods> To keep track of hours.
[14:59:56] <Woods> What we use to clock in in the morning
[14:59:20] <crutchy> timeclock site?
[14:58:58] <Woods> Uh oh, our timeclock site is broken, I may be AFK for like... three hours.
[14:56:38] <Woods> Hey Crutchy.
[14:56:18] <crutchy> hi woods!
[14:56:07] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v Woods] by juggler
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[14:54:43] <crutchy> hmm lucky i didn't hit equals in there by mistake :-P
[14:53:52] <crutchy> hi konomi 8-D
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[14:50:41] <crutchy> damn irciv login scripts still need work :-/
[14:49:14] <crutchy> bai
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[14:45:38] <Konomi> bai now ;p
[14:44:49] <Konomi> ;p
[14:44:38] <crutchy> hi konomi :-)
[14:44:29] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Wednesday, 11 June 2014, 11:43:12 pm
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[14:44:27] <crutchy> ~time bugs bunny
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[14:43:02] <crutchy> ~restart
[14:42:53] <monopoly> Filetype: PHP script, UTF-8 Unicode text (77 lines, 1 KiB)
[14:42:52] <exec> successfully downloaded "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crutchy-/test/master/scripts/time.php" to "/var/include/vhosts/irciv.us.to/scripts/time.php"
[14:42:49] <crutchy> ~get-source scripts/time.php
[14:42:35] <monopoly> Filetype: PHP script, ASCII text (392 lines, 8 KiB)
[14:42:35] <exec> successfully downloaded "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crutchy-/test/master/scripts/lib.php" to "/var/include/vhosts/irciv.us.to/scripts/lib.php"
[14:42:32] <crutchy> ~get-source scripts/lib.php
[14:42:10] <monopoly> Filetype: PHP script, ASCII text, with very long lines (188 lines, 8 KiB)
[14:42:09] <exec> successfully downloaded "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crutchy-/test/master/scripts/feeds.php" to "/var/include/vhosts/irciv.us.to/scripts/feeds.php"
[14:42:07] <crutchy> ~get-source scripts/feeds.php
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[14:40:30] <monopoly> Filetype: PHP script, ASCII text (190 lines, 4 KiB)
[14:40:29] <exec> successfully downloaded "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crutchy-/test/master/scripts/definitions.php" to "/var/include/vhosts/irciv.us.to/scripts/definitions.php"
[14:40:27] <crutchy> ~get-source scripts/definitions.php
[14:39:59] <monopoly> Filetype: PHP script, ASCII text (1265 lines, 34 KiB)
[14:39:58] <exec> successfully downloaded "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crutchy-/test/master/irc.php" to "/var/include/vhosts/irciv.us.to/irc.php"
[14:39:56] <crutchy> ~get-source irc.php
[14:39:42] <exec> ~say ~bucket ~wiki ~ping ~test-rss ~civ-admin ~civ-map
[14:39:41] <exec> ~q ~reload ~dest-override ~dest-clear ~buckets-dump ~buckets-save ~buckets-load ~buckets-flush ~buckets-list ~monitor ~restart ~get-source ~del-source
[14:39:40] <crutchy> ~list-auth
[14:34:23] <crutchy> might disable the google guff if location not found
[14:09:06] <exec> [Google] 13 Mar 2014 ... I need all the help that I can get because this is too much to take care of daily. ... Spam filters work by looking not just at where email comes from, but the ... the amount of spam you find in your inbox should decrease over time.
[14:09:05] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Wednesday, 11 June 2014, 11:07:49 pm
[14:09:04] <chromas> ~time not got much spam in it
[14:05:14] <exec> [Google] This is Poop Dawg, the Poop Cola gangsta clown with a little fund-raiser! ... to his face, & the sound of a cash register ringing is heard each time he says "prizes".
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[14:05:13] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Wednesday, 11 June 2014, 11:03:57 pm
[14:05:11] <chromas> ~time poop cola gangsta clown
[14:04:42] <exec> [Google] Poop Cola is a ubiquitous product in the Invader Zim universe. It seems to be modeled after Coke...
[14:04:41] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Wednesday, 11 June 2014, 11:03:25 pm
[14:04:40] <chromas> ~time poop cola
[14:03:52] <SedBot> <chromas> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Strikes a Blow Against Location Tracking - http://sylnt.us - whats-in-it-for-them? Prizes, prizes, prizizes!
[14:03:52] <chromas> Bender: s/?/? Prizes, prizes, prizizes! /
[14:02:52] <exec> [Google] 7:02am Wednesday (CDT) - Time in Kansas, USA
[14:02:50] <crutchy> ~time ks
[14:02:31] <exec> [Google] Find out current local time in U.S.A. Illinois Chicago. Get Chicago's weather and area codes, time zone and DST. Explore Chicago's sunrise and sunset, ... - -
[14:02:30] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Wednesday, 11 June 2014, 11:01:13 pm
[14:02:29] <crutchy> ~time il
[14:01:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Strikes a Blow Against Location Tracking - http://sylnt.us - whats-in-it-for-them?
[14:00:59] <Bender> karma of bacon is 234
[14:00:59] <crutchy> !karma bacon
[14:00:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 234
[14:00:47] <crutchy> coffee++
[14:00:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 233
[14:00:46] <crutchy> coffee++
[14:00:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 232
[14:00:43] <crutchy> coffee++
[14:00:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 231
[14:00:39] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:43:24] <Bender> karma - exactly: 1
[13:43:24] <chromas> Exactly++
[13:43:14] <chromas> Exactly
[13:41:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 230
[13:41:10] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:40:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 229
[13:40:35] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:40:15] <Bender> karma - coffee: 228
[13:40:15] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:40:12] <Bender> karma - coffee: 227
[13:40:11] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:35:39] <chromas> There's one called Coffee but it's slow and repetitive
[13:34:38] <chromas> Butter is just fine
[13:34:28] <chromas> That shortening wasn't necessary
[13:34:10] <monopoly> Title: Ugress - Retro - Sekat Alegna - YouTube
[13:34:09] <chromas> http://youtu.be
[13:33:15] <chromas> Different one
[13:30:51] <crutchy> (link didn't work properly for me)
[13:30:39] <crutchy> is that the song with the simcity graphics?
[13:25:28] <chromas> DERR has a tiny p at the end
[13:24:45] <chromas> I wonder hoe much work he put into those graphics
[13:24:12] <chromas> lol
[13:23:57] <monopoly> Title: Ugress - Sekat Alegna
[13:23:56] <chromas> http://ugress.com
[13:23:39] <monopoly> Title: Knife Party - Centipede (Original Mix) - LYRICS! - YouTube
[13:23:37] <crutchy> definition of dubstep: any song with shit funny lyrics like what this doofus came up with lmao... https://www.youtube.com
[13:23:11] <exec> [urbandictionary] lemonparty: One of the unholy trinity of internet pictures which all must witness to be 'jaded internet users' (tubgirl, goatse, and lemonparty), lemonparty is probably the tamest of the three by just bei...
[13:23:09] <chromas> ~define lemonparty
[13:22:50] <crutchy> lol
[13:22:26] <SedBot> <chromas> <monopoly> Title: lemonParty - Centipede (only song)[eliminated introduction] - YouTube
[13:22:26] <chromas> monopoly: s/Knife /lemon/
[13:20:07] <crutchy> though it takes samples and repeats the crap out of them so that's kinda dubsteppish
[13:19:33] <crutchy> more like popstep :-P
[13:19:14] <monopoly> Title: Knife Party - Centipede (only song)[eliminated introduction] - YouTube
[13:19:13] <crutchy> even stuff like this https://www.youtube.com may not be really dubstep
[13:18:23] <Bender> karma - breakbeats: 1
[13:18:23] <chromas> breakbeats++
[13:16:58] <chromas> So the Prodigy doesn't count then
[13:16:33] <crutchy> i think its also characterized by things like bass drops and stuff
[13:16:06] <crutchy> some of skrillex music is probaly not really dubstep
[13:15:51] <chromas> openstep
[13:15:45] <chromas> NeXTStep
[13:15:30] <crutchy> ^is nice
[13:15:27] <crutchy> chillstep
[13:15:23] <crutchy> though there's lots of other *step apparently
[13:14:57] <crutchy> skipping etc
[13:14:46] <crutchy> i think its just the disjointed stuff
[13:14:42] <chromas> ~ud-edit ballsauce
[13:14:27] <crutchy> that definition wasn't very creative
[13:14:13] * chromas still doesn't know how dubstep is different from any other elecronic and/or techno music
[13:14:02] <exec> [urbandictionary] ball sauce: The stuff that erupts from the penis during ejaculation.
[13:13:59] <crutchy> ~define ballsauce
[13:13:35] <crutchy> at least its not ballsauce
[13:13:20] <crutchy> lol
[13:13:19] <chromas> ballsa
[13:13:16] <chromas> And ball salsa
[13:13:06] <crutchy> i think everyone's too preoccupied with weed
[13:12:47] * chromas doesn't find any Hook references in the comments
[13:10:47] * chromas finally clicks link
[13:10:04] <crutchy> maybe its after the "weeaaah salsa on my balls boys... sweet brownie"?
[13:09:19] <chromas> "Look at me, I'm Peter Pan..."
[13:09:09] <chromas> When does Mr. Jefferson come in?
[13:08:21] <chromas> Peter Pan, eh
[13:07:50] <crutchy> although the comments are funny :-P
[13:07:42] <monopoly> Title: Skrillex - Bangarang - LYRICS - YouTube
[13:07:41] <crutchy> and stuff like this... https://www.youtube.com
[13:06:11] <Konomi> and substitute it with something else
[13:06:07] * crutchy is semi-conscious
[13:06:05] <Konomi> I also hate where english subtitles literally skip dialog
[13:05:35] <crutchy> lmao i just figured out what that screen cap was about :-P
[13:05:18] <SedBot> <chromas> Are cigarettes better than Peewee Herman?
[13:05:17] <chromas> s/worse/better/
[13:05:11] <chromas> Are cigarettes worse than Peewee Herman?
[13:05:01] <chromas> It's funny that Disney credited Paul Reubans as PAll Mall
[13:04:37] <Konomi> and the spaceship is seamless ;p
[13:04:33] <Konomi> there is a gudard dog in the spaceship
[13:04:31] <chromas> Jinx put Max in sapce; Jinx can get Max out
[13:04:28] <crutchy> or maybe the dog just really wanted something to piss on
[13:04:17] <crutchy> maybe it was max?
[13:04:11] <Konomi> no that's offical...
[13:04:06] <chromas> Konomi: is it fansubbed?
[13:03:54] <Konomi> space ships do not bark.
[13:03:50] <Konomi> spaceship
[13:03:50] <crutchy> ah the 80's, when NASA actually kinda still did stuff
[13:03:46] <Konomi> not he spaceshit
[13:03:44] <Konomi> the dog is barking
[13:03:39] <chromas> Somebody linked to that bacl when we were on freenode and I had to watch it
[13:03:27] <crutchy> i don't get that caption, but the movie is awesome!
[13:03:09] <chromas> oh yeah
[13:02:56] <Konomi> there are no words
[13:02:52] <Konomi> http://i.minus.com
[13:02:41] <crutchy> lol beat me to it :-P
[13:02:33] <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <crutchy> is irpg poutine futurama condoms?
[13:02:33] <chromas> SedBot: s/ting/tine/
[13:02:20] <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <crutchy> is irpg pouting futurama condoms?
[13:02:20] <chromas> SedBot: s/ s/ /
[13:01:24] <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <crutchy> is irpg spouting futurama condoms?
[13:01:24] <crutchy> SedBot: s/aunto/futu/
[13:00:54] <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <crutchy> is irpg spouting auntorama condoms?
[13:00:53] <chromas> SedBot: s/ant/aunt/
[13:00:16] <crutchy> lol
[12:59:31] <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <crutchy> is irpg spouting antorama condoms?
[12:59:30] <chromas> SedBot: s/i-ob/or/
[12:58:57] <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <crutchy> is irpg spouting anti-obama condoms?
[12:58:56] <crutchy> SedBot: s/iments/oms/
[12:58:47] <chromas> bbq sauce, then
[12:58:41] <chromas> Not a condiment I guess
[12:58:35] <chromas> Mmm, pineapple
[12:58:11] <SedBot> <crutchy> is irpg spouting anti-obama condiments?
[12:58:10] <crutchy> s/sent/cond/
[12:57:58] <crutchy> is irpg spouting anti-obama sentiments?
[12:55:59] <chromas> Oh no! My electricity is brown and it set me back 19 hours. Is that racist?
[12:44:10] * crutchy wonders whether a twist on the karma thing with ~fish and random catching of fish might be a little too rediculous
[12:43:11] <crutchy> and some buck feta toe cheese for good measure
[12:42:52] <chromas> and they'll come running
[12:42:45] <crutchy> lol
[12:42:40] <chromas> Lay a circle of slashcode and beta around the fish
[12:42:27] <chromas> You have to lay traps
[12:41:26] <crutchy> exec: ooh! it looks like you have a bite. aww fishy got away. haha you suck at pretend fishing!
[12:40:29] <crutchy> ~fish
[12:39:48] <crutchy> sounds like a plan
[12:38:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> feels like a good morning to give work and slash the finger and go fishing
[12:30:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Another Interview with Linus (yes, that Linus) - http://sylnt.us - ntrvu
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[12:14:41] <Bender> karma - jiggly: 1
[12:14:41] <chromas> jiggly++
[12:14:24] <Bender> services doesn't have karma yet.
[12:14:24] <chromas> !karma services
[12:14:23] <Bender> karma - jiggler: 1
[12:14:23] <crutchy> jiggler++
[12:14:08] <Bender> juggler doesn't have karma yet.
[12:14:08] <chromas> !karma juggler
[12:14:04] <chromas> ~karma juggler
[12:13:47] <Bender> karma of bacon is 234
[12:13:47] <crutchy> !karma bacon
[12:13:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 226
[12:13:40] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:12:48] <chromas> cheater
[12:12:31] <crutchy> /quit?
[12:11:46] <chromas> ^ Copy/paste this so Mark Zuckerburg will give everybody $50 or SoylentNews will become pay-only
[12:10:49] <chromas> /quit
[12:09:13] <crutchy> exec.crud.find.code.in.here.somewhere....ahah!..code.summon(cookie)
[12:07:38] <chromas> crutchy.summon.activate()
[12:06:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 225
[12:06:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
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[10:55:35] <chromas> What did you use for indents?
[10:46:32] <crutchy> i did some programming on paper today. felt so geeky :-P
[10:37:43] <SedBot> <chromas> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Clinton PAC DMCA Parodies, CafePress and Zazzle Roll-Over without Fight - http://sylnt.us - Powah!
[10:37:43] <chromas> Bender: s/(.\<)(.\>)//g
[10:37:18] <chromas> ^ derp
[10:37:08] <chromas> Bender: s/(.<)(.>)//g
[10:36:41] <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot>
[10:36:41] <crutchy> SedBot: s/<.*>//g
[10:36:40] <chromas> SedBot: s/(.<)(.>)//g
[10:35:52] <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot>
[10:35:52] <chromas> SedBot: s/.*//
[10:35:38] <crutchy> :-/
[10:35:28] <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <chromas <SedBot> <crutchy> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Clinton PAC DMCA's Parodies, CafePress and Zazzle Roll-Over without Foreskin - http://sylnt.us - Powah!
[10:35:28] <crutchy> SedBot: s/<*>//
[10:34:23] <SedBot> <chromas> <SedBot> <crutchy> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Clinton PAC DMCA's Parodies, CafePress and Zazzle Roll-Over without Foreskin - http://sylnt.us - Powah!
[10:34:23] <chromas> SedBot: s/play/skin/
[10:33:49] <chromas> No foreplay? Oh noes!
[10:33:10] <SedBot> <crutchy> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Clinton PAC DMCA's Parodies, CafePress and Zazzle Roll-Over without Foreplay - http://sylnt.us - Powah!
[10:33:10] <crutchy> Bender: s/a Fight/Foreplay/
[10:32:39] <crutchy> hmm
[10:32:12] <monopoly> Title: The Most Famous Image in the Early History of Computing (1839) : HistoryofInformation.com
[10:32:11] <crutchy> http://www.historyofinformation.com
[10:31:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Clinton PAC DMCA's Parodies, CafePress and Zazzle Roll-Over without a Fight - http://sylnt.us - Powah!
[10:14:29] <crutchy> the whole description html is wrapped in the <![CDATA[ thingy
[10:13:48] <crutchy> yeah
[10:13:46] <crutchy> ah now i see
[10:13:43] <chromas> there's one at the end
[10:12:54] <crutchy> ?
[10:12:51] <crutchy> after the CDATA
[10:12:40] <crutchy> <![CDATA[<p class="byline">
[10:12:38] <crutchy> might be just a missing '>' then
[10:11:58] <chromas> Not sure how many RSS readers handle that
[10:10:49] <chromas> It's supposed to make it so it gets http or https, whichever you're already using
[10:10:30] <chromas> that's on purpose
[10:10:11] <crutchy> looked a bit weird but i don't know rss very well (i'm learning as i go)
[10:09:51] <crutchy> i picked up on line 92 (the cdata thing) when i was working on exec's rss parser
[10:09:30] <chromas> hm I thought I made it ignore itself
[10:09:06] <monopoly> Title: SoylentNews
[10:09:05] <monopoly> Title: Feed Validator Results: http://soylentnews.org
[10:09:03] <crutchy> http://validator.w3.org
[10:09:00] <crutchy> the feed has some quirks too
[10:07:55] <crutchy> only 12 errors
[10:07:36] <crutchy> isn't bad really
[10:07:30] <crutchy> most validation errors are cos of the missing href quotes
[10:07:12] <crutchy> quirksmode prolly doing its job
[10:06:36] <chromas> just pipe it through htmltidy :D
[10:06:18] <crutchy> prolly need to add w3c validation to the dev procedure
[10:05:29] <SedBot> <crutchy> the dwarf fortress thing chucked a wobbly cos there's hrefs without quotes
[10:05:29] <crutchy> s/ec/uc/
[10:05:15] <crutchy> the dwarf fortress thing checked a wobbly cos there's hrefs without quotes
[10:05:14] <Bender> karma - catbeingstupid: -1
[10:05:14] <chromas> catbeingstupid--
[10:03:50] <crutchy> i dunno but just thought maybe conflicting header and meta tag prolly not helping
[10:03:29] <crutchy> i know TheMightyBuzzard has been working on unicode stuff
[10:03:05] <chromas> oh, I didn't know that'd been UTF8-ified
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[10:02:45] <crutchy> prod
[10:02:33] <monopoly> Title: Bay 12 Games: Dwarf Fortress
[10:02:32] <crutchy> "Interested in <a href=http://bay12games.com/dwarves/>Dwarf Fortress</a>?, Join …"
[10:02:27] <chromas> is that on dev?
[10:01:06] <crutchy> "The character encoding specified in the HTTP header (iso-8859-1) is different from the value in the <meta> element (utf-8)."
[10:00:47] <crutchy> ping TheMightyBuzzard
[09:30:52] <exec> [Google] Discover legendary Route 66 & plan your trip. Learn more at the Autry! - - -
[09:30:51] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Wednesday, 11 June 2014, 06:29:38 pm
[09:30:50] <crutchy> ~time route 66
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[09:23:02] <Bender> karma - buttpirate: 1
[09:23:02] <chromas> buttpirate++
[09:22:56] <Bender> karma - buttdial: 1
[09:22:55] <chromas> buttdial++
[09:22:41] <Bender> karma - autodial: 1
[09:22:41] <crutchy> autodial++
[09:18:04] <chromas> well that's no fun
[09:17:51] <swiss> nop
[09:15:53] <chromas> swiss: will it dial in your sleep?
[09:09:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 224
[09:09:17] <crutchy> coffee++
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[09:03:14] <swiss> debating taking it off while sleeping
[09:03:06] <swiss> i am lovin my pebble
[09:01:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Teaching Approach Touted for Engineering Education - http://sylnt.us - and-called-it-the-internet
[08:58:56] <chromas> Bender?
[07:20:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Driving Associated With Poor Health Behaviours And Outcomes - http://sylnt.us - does-sitting-in-traffic-count?
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[06:01:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NSF Bans Researcher for Mining Bitcoins - http://sylnt.us - not-for-profit
[05:46:40] juggs is now known as juggs|afk
[05:46:11] * arti salutes
[05:46:05] * juggs slithers off to bed
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[05:35:10] <juggs> Gotta love that those ready to eat pulses in a tin are preserved with sulphur-yourgirlfriendwillnotforgiveyou-leathoxins
[05:30:29] <arti> man that sucked
[05:30:26] <arti> better than a bunch of magnesium
[05:29:55] <SpallsHurgenson> oh wait, right. I ate beans.
[05:29:46] * SpallsHurgenson looks very surprised and slightly concerned
[05:29:21] <juggs> nope
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[05:22:14] * arti points to ethanol
[05:22:09] <arti> couldn't be anything to do with alcohol
[05:21:02] <juggs> Who knew? Hook up with a random from some website - get burned. Even the soothsayers of old could not predict that outcome could they?
[05:17:55] <arti> "She did burn me on the ass with a cigarette on purpose one morning though. Who does that? That still pisses me off."
[05:16:47] * arti munches m&ms
[05:16:28] <monopoly> Title: Craigslist hookup horror stories : reddit.com
[05:16:27] <arti> it's an older post, but it checks out: http://www.reddit.com
[05:15:51] * arti sifts around for craigslist horror stories
[05:15:36] <juggs> I'd have thought that gets your legs broken..... or did I miss something ~again~ WOOOSH
[05:14:36] <paulej72> how do you make a hormone … don’t pay her
[05:14:06] <SpallsHurgenson> I could never sleep to fans; the sound wasn't irregular enough. My brain started picking out the patterns
[05:13:58] <arti> hd access noise!
[05:13:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> tech equiv is the sound of case fans
[05:12:20] <arti> or the tech equiv, lullabyte
[05:12:08] * SpallsHurgenson sings a soothing lullabye
[05:12:05] <juggs> And we love you - now go to sleep little prince
[05:11:41] <NCommander> I hate you all
[05:11:34] <NCommander> .....................................................
[05:10:31] <arti> i see, well enjoy your hormone lobbys
[05:09:34] <juggs> well given his last announced location was "lobby" that seems pretty fucking unlikely.
[05:08:36] <arti> is he a seahorse or something?
[05:08:20] <juggs> early onset male menopause - best get those hormone levels checked out :)
[05:07:55] <arti> turn on CSPAN
[05:07:32] * arti pats NCommander on the back
[05:07:26] <arti> better wait a few days actually
[05:07:16] <arti> ncommander, how about a drink?
[05:06:31] <NCommander> paulej72, I've just been kinda "eh"
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[05:03:04] <juggs> other than he gets tetchy without 10 hours a night :D
[05:01:57] <paulej72> NCommander: nothing wrong with that :)
[05:01:31] <NCommander> paulej72, approx 15 hours
[05:01:07] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, I left those behind long ago. The stuff my mind comes up with in dreams is bad enough these days, it really doesn't need chemical assistance.
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[04:55:02] <paulej72> NCommander: how long have you been up?
[04:54:39] <monopoly> Title: The Sounds of Nature Collection : Gaia : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
[04:54:38] <SpallsHurgenson> download and listen to these https://archive.org <-- very soothing :)
[04:53:55] <NCommander> Kill me
[04:53:53] <NCommander> can't sleep
[04:53:51] <NCommander> argh
[04:52:37] <SpallsHurgenson> that's a pretty lame hallucination. somebody get juggs some REAL drugs
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[04:50:02] <juggs> NCommander, am I hallucinating or did SN used to have an option in user Prefs to keep a login / cookie live unless client IP changed?
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[04:45:42] <bytram> have a good night, everyone!
[04:45:28] <SedBot> <bytram> in fact, looking at the time, it's time for me to be heading to bed.
[04:45:28] <bytram> s/fo rme/for me/
[04:45:21] <bytram> in fact, looking at the time, it's time fo rme to be heading to bed.
[04:45:02] <bytram> juggler: no worries! It's too late for me to consider playing around with my setting; if I goof, I'm not sure I'd be able to remember exactly what I did so that I could get back to what I started with.
[04:43:29] <juggs> No worries, I'm on hour 30 since falling out of bed last and beer 8, I'm not even sure if it is SN that had the checkbox for "keep me logged in as long as my IP doesn't change" - I'm fairly sure it is, and I know my IP must change a lot, so the odd logout is not unexpected. If I were rational I would have looked instead of typing that
[04:41:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Getting Fingerprints From ATM Receipts - http://sylnt.us - betrayed-by-grubby-fingers
[04:39:04] * bytram can't remember the choices for the life of me. too long day following a too-short-night.
[04:38:35] <bytram> yaeh, I can't remember what I was set up with at first, I tried to find the thing that would be most tolerant and set it to that.
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[04:37:52] <juggs> bytram, just my experience. But I know I'm and edge case on a flakey connection that can change presented IP when it reconnects and I have the option set to set cookie for individual IP.
[04:37:39] <bytram> juggs: btw, just saw your rss bot replies on your journal... WOW! *exactly* what I was looking for! Thanks so much!
[04:36:45] <pbnjoe> and make everything else
[04:36:30] <pbnjoe> NCommander, so we have to trade for wood and food (excluding breed + kill), essentially?
[04:36:28] <bytram> it's just the part of getting in the first time, once in a very great while, is a tremendous struggle.
[04:36:00] <bytram> juggs: thanks for that! I occasionally found myself logged off, too. but a quick entry of nick and pwd (in the lashbox on the right-hand side) and I'm back in fine.
[04:34:44] <juggs> I randomly get logged out on live from time to time. But I am fairly sure that is because I have the "change IP" option or however it is called checked and I'm on a flakey quintruple NATed flakey-ass connection that doubtless changes my IP every nanosecond.
[04:33:39] <SedBot> <bytram> didn't want to miselad the conclusion, so hoped that there might have been a recent change that could be singled out. Now I'm more inclined to think it's a long-standing problem.
[04:33:38] <bytram> s/problme/problem/
[04:33:27] <NCommander> Wood -> charcoal -> smelt iron ore -> make axes+picks
[04:33:24] <SedBot> <bytram> didn't want to mislead the conclusion, so hoped that there might have been a recent change that could be singled out. Now I'm more inclined to think it's a long-standing problme.
[04:33:24] <bytram> s/miselad/mislead/
[04:33:11] <NCommander> As in singular :-)
[04:33:07] <NCommander> pbnjoe, well, I'm going to do a stripped down embark, basically, a lot of wood, iron ore, food animales, and a pickaxe
[04:32:15] <bytram> didn't want to miselad the conclusion, so hoped that there might have been a recent change that could be singled out. Now I'm more inclined to think it's a long-standing problme.
[04:31:30] <bytram> yeah, the funny thing is, now that I'm thinking about it, I'm pretty sure I've run into something similar a couple/few times before, but it was very sporadic.
[04:30:48] <bytram> thanks for the feedback!
[04:30:28] <paulej72> bytram: I am sorry that you had problems, but you are the first today to have any issues that has reported it. only issues I saw today were on dev and were self inflicted.
[04:30:28] <juggs> ahh the buzz that goes on between dev, QA and testers come release time - fuck me do I not miss it. It's like watching a super speed benny hill episode.... who will be the one without a seat when the release goes out :D
[04:30:04] <bytram> getting things working in the first place; that was the problem.
[04:29:46] <bytram> the more I think about it, istr having run into this a few times. Once I've wiggled my way and the cookie is well-and-good in place with valid stuff. then I can log in w/o trouble.
[04:28:32] <bytram> paulej72: good guess, not good enough. I cleared cache, cookies, pushed content. restarted phone. same problem. :/
[04:27:47] <bytram> not a lot to go on, I know, but I found it hard to debug, type on my phone, get my lunch, and ALSO take notes at the same time.
[04:27:45] <paulej72> your cache and cookies were messed up on your phone bytram, usually you can clear them by going to the data or storage settings in the prefernces for the phone.
[04:26:31] <bytram> istr running into something similar a couple months or so ago, so I'm not certain that it is a regression.
[04:25:51] <bytram> now that I finally got logged in, the cookie seemed to take care of things after that.
[04:24:39] <bytram> finally, tried clicking on the "login" link in the slashbox and saw the really wide fields for nick and password; entered them there and that got me on.
[04:24:03] <bytram> tyried various permutations.
[04:23:51] <bytram> *something* knew I was logged in, and something else did *not*
[04:23:27] <bytram> http
[04:23:24] <bytram> clicked on the "Home" image at the tomp of the page, and was brought back to SN.org (yay) and with the empty nick & pwd fields (not-so-yay) iow, it did not know I waS logged in.
[04:23:14] <paulej72> https or http?
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[04:22:27] <bytram> clicked on login in left-hand slashbox, and was immediately brought to my preferences page!??!!
[04:22:25] <paulej72> clear you caches?
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[04:22:04] <paulej72> did you reboot your phone bytram
[04:21:38] <bytram> tried it a half dozentimes in a row. no luck.
[04:21:36] * juggs kicks firefox to the curb
[04:21:23] <bytram> no "Danger Will Robinson" message or nothing like that/
[04:21:14] <paulej72> bytram: shitty as phone on a shitty ass network :P
[04:21:01] <bytram> strange symptom: from the home page (sn.org) entered nick (bytram) and password, clicked login, and found myself on the same screen with no error message, and with the same empty nick and password box that I started with.
[04:20:59] <arti> either that or you rolled really low on your skill throw
[04:20:40] <arti> that's convenience in the palm of your hand
[04:19:38] <SedBot> <bytram> NCommander: took me about 40 minutes of debugging and trying and retrying and rebooting my phone to finally get it logged in.
[04:19:38] <bytram> s/gert/get/
[04:19:30] <bytram> NCommander: took me about 40 minutes of debugging and trying and retrying and rebooting my phone to finally gert it logged in.
[04:19:27] <paulej72> bytram: not on prod as far as I know
[04:18:49] <SoyCow1785> paulej72, I think they are different manufacturers
[04:18:27] <pbnjoe> also, my vote's still on hosting on B12
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[04:18:18] <SoyCow1785> I've taken away any spare cables
[04:18:15] <bytram> NCommander: question for ya: has anyone reported problems with logging in today?
[04:18:14] <pbnjoe> NCommander, as long as you get us going I should be able to keep the fort from dying for a year :p
[04:17:57] <SoyCow1785> I've checked for a loop
[04:17:31] <pbnjoe> NCommander, woo!
[04:17:29] <SoyCow1785> They are only running dev environments, RDP and a small SQL Server test workstation
[04:17:28] <paulej72> SoyCow1785: a bad cable could do the same thing. Also make sure there is not secret loop being created
[04:17:13] <arti> perhaps female?
[04:16:50] <SpallsHurgenson> why did the flatmate get good qos in the first place? :)
[04:16:46] <SoyCow1785> NC, I'm assuming it's the RDP
[04:16:38] <paulej72> SoyCow1785: if the switch that the one office is on and the one it connects to are different manufactures that could be the issue. I had some older but still good Netgear FS108s that would not connect to the Dlink 48 port managed switches that the univeristy went to a few years back. they could not connect at 100Mb without setting the port specifically to 100 on the dlink
[04:16:34] <bytram> NCommander: what a nasty (and crafty) thing to do to your flatmate!
[04:16:29] <SoyCow1785> but they need to be on site more than away, so I need a solution so they can work during daylight hours
[04:16:14] <NCommander> It shouldn't kill your network
[04:16:07] <NCommander> SoyCow1785, that should solve the immediate problem though RDP is NOT a heavy protocol
[04:16:06] <SoyCow1785> they are working overnights from home and not wreaking havoc
[04:15:42] <SoyCow1785> I have altered their schedule to a degree
[04:15:23] <SoyCow1785> most excellent advice
[04:15:05] * NCommander used to be an evil net admin and may have turned down the QOS on a flatmates World of Warcraft raids
[04:15:05] <arti> we're drawing straws to see who buys
[04:15:00] <SoyCow1785> NC ... ahhh, OK
[04:14:55] <bytram> hi gang! How's things?
[04:14:47] <NCommander> :-)
[04:14:46] <NCommander> SoyCow1785, I was referring to your problem. QOS the RDP connections so low that they only wor k when the network is idle
[04:14:17] <SoyCow1785> juggs, I'm not sure of the brand or model off hand
[04:14:16] <arti> better than a psycho
[04:14:07] <NCommander> SpallsHurgenson, well he IS a soy cow
[04:13:58] <SpallsHurgenson> damning us with faint praise there, soycow1785
[04:13:52] <juggs> SoyCow1785, a client that I presume is paying you for your vast experience?
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[04:13:21] <SoyCow1785> SN is the best thing since soy milk
[04:13:09] <SoyCow1785> NC, the issues I'm discussing are at a client, not with SN
[04:13:04] <NCommander> SpallsHurgenson, also known as a near death experience
[04:12:48] <SpallsHurgenson> helpful hint: check to see which window has focus before hitting alt-f4
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[04:12:30] <NCommander> SoyCow1785, sounds like a good dose of QOS might help
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[04:12:04] <SpallsHurgenson> usually they buy me dinner first, arti :)
[04:12:03] <NCommander> SoyCow1785, issues?
[04:11:46] <NCommander> paulej72, yay
[04:11:39] * arti milks SpallsHurgenson
[04:11:24] <SoyCow1785> The canary in the coal mine here is several Brother printers drop off the network ... poof
[04:11:23] <arti> inn*
[04:11:22] <SpallsHurgenson> (and I wasn't even drinking milk)
[04:11:15] <arti> NCommander: did you do this after staying at a holiday in express?
[04:11:14] <SpallsHurgenson> <snort> you made milk go up my nose with that comment, arti!
[04:11:13] <paulej72> NCommander: I have two pull requests up. one for nexuses and one for two minor messge fixes
[04:11:08] <monopoly> Title: SoylentNews Comments | Dwarf Fortress Succession Game
[04:11:07] <NCommander> pbnjoe, http://soylentnews.org
[04:11:04] <arti> juggs, chobits!
[04:11:03] <NCommander> arti, I saved a bunch of money by cancelled geico
[04:10:58] <juggs> What is this "small switch" ?
[04:10:42] <arti> did you save a bunch of money by switching to geico?
[04:10:10] <NCommander> pbnjoe, I HAZ NEWS
[04:10:10] <paulej72> I have seen issues with cheap switches not working properly with the closet switch. they do not sync with each other properly and cause all kinds of network issues.
[04:10:09] <SoyCow1785> and if I need to add another switch to isolate them (for the most part) I willl
[04:10:03] <NCommander> Seems I'm playing tag with Eth
[04:09:39] <SoyCow1785> that's what I'm looking to replace
[04:09:30] <SoyCow1785> it's nothing special, paulej72
[04:09:09] <SoyCow1785> they RDP into the five computers they are not sitting in front of
[04:09:02] <paulej72> SoyCow1785: is it a good switch and good cables.
[04:08:30] <SoyCow1785> seven computers and a network printer are attached
[04:07:52] <SoyCow1785> there is a small switch in their office
[04:07:33] <paulej72> OK messges are fixed on dev and should be showing up soon on prod.
[04:07:04] <SoyCow1785> of course, they can't hit the server or the internet, which isn't a suitable solution for them (though I am comfortable with it)
[04:06:52] <juggs> OK - so work it through logically - where's the choke-point?
[04:06:22] <SoyCow1785> when I unplug their room from the rest of the network the issue disipates
[04:05:55] <SoyCow1785> It seems to be the multiple RPD sessions each one is running
[04:05:28] <juggs> You could try that I guess. Might work. Might not. Or you could actually diagnose what is causing the problem.
[04:04:02] <SoyCow1785> I could separate them from most of the network and have their dedicated switch connect to the main switch in the server closet
[04:03:12] <SoyCow1785> Unfortunately they need to hit the same server as everyone else
[04:02:41] <SoyCow1785> it doesn't take long before I have the dreaded sync'd rapid flashing and everyone else's network perfomarnce goes to pot
[04:01:59] <juggs> You need to describe more about the problem - can they and whatever they are RDP'ing too be segmented away from the rest of the network?
[04:01:21] <SoyCow1785> IIRC they are netgear ProSafe switches
[03:59:46] <juggs> Well no, if they are actually switches then their traffic won't be all over everything. That would be a dumb hub situation that spews everything everywhere.
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[03:58:34] <SoyCow1785> OK, which feature(s) should I look for?
[03:58:16] <juggs> Depends which marketing wind is blowing today for any given model from any given supplier :D
[03:58:12] <SoyCow1785> This client currently only has dumb switches, so I'm sure their traffic is all over everything
[03:57:26] <SoyCow1785> juggs, would that be a 'smart switch' or a 'managed switch'?
[03:55:58] <juggs> Should be able to VLAN them off to themselves with a relatively un-spendy switch. But you may want to investigate MSS and MTU settings on your infrastructure first - you may just be getting packet fragmentation overload on a low end switch
[03:52:52] <SoyCow1785> Right now they are just plugged into a dumb switch
[03:52:31] <SoyCow1785> do I need a small router (whcih seem to be expensive for what they offer) or would a smart switch keep their traffic in their room?
[03:52:14] * arti imagines monkeybars
[03:52:06] <juggs> Are they traversing a NAT?
[03:51:58] <arti> throttle that shit
[03:51:50] <SoyCow1785> I'd like to isolate their traffic to their little hovel
[03:51:43] <SpallsHurgenson> put pizza in the cafeteria :)
[03:51:38] <arti> chokehold!
[03:51:29] <SoyCow1785> I sent them out for lunch
[03:51:25] <arti> juggs, usually a shovel or a bottle
[03:51:16] <SoyCow1785> Ah yes, Kerry Livgren
[03:51:14] <juggs> how does one reboot a programmer?
[03:50:50] <SoyCow1785> if I disconnect them the traffic eventually returns to normal
[03:50:45] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, Kansas - Dust In The Wind
[03:50:31] <SoyCow1785> I've rebooted the switches, the programmers, etc
[03:50:10] <SoyCow1785> each has multiple RDP sessions going and the dumb switches seem to get flooded after an hour or two
[03:49:43] <SoyCow1785> One of my clients has two programmers that are just killing the network
[03:49:43] <arti> have you tried rebooting it?
[03:49:19] <arti> i usually host diablo games, what can i do for you?
[03:48:58] <SoyCow1785> any network folks in here tonight?
[03:48:42] <SpallsHurgenson> there's a song in there, somewhere
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[03:47:04] <arti> and so the great cycle continues
[03:46:38] <SpallsHurgenson> every now and again, I reach into the box and toss out a bunch of 'em. If I later find the device that goes with it, then I get to toss that too :)
[03:46:05] <SpallsHurgenson> I've given up trying to keep track of all those AC power convertor bricks, though
[03:45:42] <arti> you're what is known as a pessimist
[03:45:19] <juggs> We're all just dust in the wind :D
[03:45:18] <SpallsHurgenson> I do every now and again cull the herd of power cables, though
[03:44:34] <juggs> You do know this shit will just be binned when you slip of the mortal coil or maybe if you live long enough go to some dusty archive room in some museum - only to be binned when the curator of the "vintage" museum expires.
[03:43:57] <SpallsHurgenson> I think I did eventually toss the Matrox Mystique it was paired with, though
[03:43:34] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, like my Pure3D 6MB Voodoo daughter card
[03:43:00] <arti> got an awe64 and a voodoo550 for the same reasons
[03:42:42] <SpallsHurgenson> (it's just so BIG and RED)
[03:42:36] <SpallsHurgenson> although I have to admit I'm hanging onto my old ISA Gravis Ultrasound sound-card more out of nostalgia than ever expecting that I'll use it again
[03:41:34] <juggs> HAHA Likewise the vast selection of PSTN modems. ethernet and token ring adapters. Those are bound to come in useful.
[03:41:16] <SpallsHurgenson> that 320MB PATA 5.25" hard-drive is also waiting for just the right moment to come into usefulness again :)
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[03:40:13] * SpallsHurgenson is sure he will one day need a 256KB ISA VGA video-card :)
[03:39:46] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, PARTS are a different story. those take up so little room I can hang onto tons of stuff :)
[03:38:57] <juggs> Well realistically I have no use for the SCSI RAID adapters and cables that reside under my bed.... still can't dispose of them. I doubt there's any SCSI hd's of that era still running.
[03:38:07] <SpallsHurgenson> 'course, this also means I find "uses" for computers that aren't entirely warranted (like the laptop in the kitchen... you know, in case I need to look up a recipe while cooking :)
[03:36:35] <SpallsHurgenson> (for varying degrees of "realistic" :)
[03:36:22] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm actually much better than I used to be; most gear that I don't realistically expect to use either gets dismantled or tossed
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[03:32:31] <juggs> Probably inhabited by mice in the garage now
[03:31:58] <juggs> Come to think of it, I have a Wyse serial console somewhere... I swear that used to fly at 19200
[03:31:24] <arti> dat keyboard
[03:31:14] * arti has an ultrasparc
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[03:31:01] <Ethanol-fueled> or SGI octanes
[03:30:51] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm sure you all have shit like Sun Sparcstation 10's and shit sitting around
[03:30:47] * SpallsHurgenson gets attached to his loot :)
[03:30:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[03:29:55] <juggs> old kit Ethanol and hoarding thereof
[03:29:48] * SpallsHurgenson has to chuck old gear 'cause I keep getting new stuff :)
[03:29:36] <juggs> meh, chuck it off a tall building and be done with it.
[03:29:29] <Ethanol-fueled> and what are you guys talking about?
[03:29:05] <SpallsHurgenson> RT. that thing is so damned fragile :)
[03:29:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Was wondering whether or not supermoderation was taking place on a trial basis.
[03:28:55] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs: honestly, more than I do the C
[03:28:39] <juggs> But do you trust them not to let you down?
[03:28:36] <arti> well the news papers will be totally worth it
[03:28:33] <Ethanol-fueled> any admins listenin'?
[03:28:25] * SpallsHurgenson is really crowded for space, what with my hoarding habit :)
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[03:27:51] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs: I already have two spare 14" LCDs waiting for that emergency :)
[03:27:22] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, I am sure you can convince yourself that you ~have~ to keep that CRT as a 2nd tier emergency just in case screen for plugging into a headless server you may or may not have
[03:26:49] <SpallsHurgenson> I'll probably end up - reluctantly and with much manly tears in my eyes - craigslisting it. It seems a sad reward for such nice kit :(
[03:20:45] <juggs> umm... on the cheap ikea shelf
[03:20:38] <Popeidol> they're also great for keeping your food warm in winter
[03:20:18] <SpallsHurgenson> now where am I going to put my toy battlemechs? :)
[03:20:05] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, the worst part of losing the CRT is that I used to use it as a shelf :)
[03:20:02] * arti dodges the 75kb item
[03:19:53] * juggs crushes arti's head with a manual
[03:19:34] <arti> juggs, you mean those paper things that are derived from pdfs?
[03:19:21] <Popeidol> ahhhh. My solution to that is a wardrobe filled with computers.
[03:19:18] <SpallsHurgenson> as I suggested earlier, donations of a bigger home are welcome :)
[03:19:16] <juggs> In fact I have numerous boxes of various components stashed away under beds etc. that were all working fine when decommissioned - all lovingly kept in anti-static bags with associated manuals (remember those!) and driver diskettes. I know I'll never use any of it - but if I throw even one thing out I know I'll need it the next month.
[03:19:15] <arti> have the replicator scan it
[03:19:03] * SpallsHurgenson wants a solution that lets me keep his crap. :)
[03:18:51] <Popeidol> you might even get money for it, there are still some CRT enthusiasts around
[03:18:08] <Popeidol> SpallsHurgenson: gumtree/craigslist
[03:17:17] <SpallsHurgenson> except I just got a new computer and screen, and the place is packed already. Something's gotta give :)
[03:16:46] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs: exactly how I feel. The stuff WORKS, I hate having to get rid of it
[03:15:22] <juggs> I have an Athlon X2 desktop serving as a space filler too. It lives by the side of the desk doing nothing. I just can't bring myself to throw away stuff that works just fine.
[03:14:32] <arti> watch out for the spiders
[03:14:22] <arti> i'll give you my mine craft server addy :D
[03:14:09] * SpallsHurgenson waits for somebody to donate a cabin
[03:13:52] <arti> take it to the cabin with you, it'll make a great heater
[03:13:34] <SpallsHurgenson> I got an old Athlon X2 desktop and a Vista laptop that may get the axe too
[03:11:54] <juggs> Ahh nothing like the scent of adhesive and formaldehyde in the morning
[03:11:29] <arti> maybe wetting it down will help :D
[03:10:22] <SpallsHurgenson> only quality Ikea pressboard furniture here :)
[03:09:47] <arti> DEATH BY VIEWING
[03:09:47] <SpallsHurgenson> (which is one of the reasons I had to get rid of it; the desk was sagging beneath the weight :)
[03:09:30] <juggs> Well true - I can;t imagine sensible person would suspend it over their bed for horizontal viewing pleasure
[03:09:08] <SpallsHurgenson> bastard is HEAVY
[03:08:45] <SpallsHurgenson> it's not the ceiling I'm worried about, but everything that would be underneath the crt :)
[03:08:24] <juggs> Do you not like your ceiling?
[03:08:08] <SpallsHurgenson> hmm, I wonder if maybe I can hang it from the ceiling?
[03:07:58] <SpallsHurgenson> if I had a bigger desk (and den) I'd keep it
[03:07:00] <juggs> just a slight pause and a polite click then? I'm sorry to hear that.
[03:06:56] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: mount it in a window so the depth can hang outside and keep the neighbors warm
[03:05:05] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs: sadly no, it is a well-behaved CRT :)
[03:03:05] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, does it turn on with a great keerzzznnnngg noise and slap you in the face with a static wave?
[03:01:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 Released - http://sylnt.us
[03:00:03] <arti> so, microwave sneeze booger
[02:59:31] <SpallsHurgenson> nuclear biological chemical?
[02:58:32] <arti> I NBC YOU!
[02:58:21] <arti> Gobble gobble, mfer
[02:58:14] <SpallsHurgenson> part mutant killer turkey!
[02:58:00] <arti> maybe part turtle part pararie dog
[02:57:53] <Konomi> guess that works
[02:57:02] <arti> those things love hiding too
[02:56:58] <arti> okay then, pararie dog
[02:56:46] <Konomi> if I could be part animal it would not be a turtle
[02:56:39] <arti> well, if you wither away everything will appear larger
[02:56:19] <SpallsHurgenson> I was hoping somebody would donate me a bigger home :)
[02:56:08] <arti> or keep it around if you want to crush children
[02:55:56] <arti> donate it
[02:55:44] <SpallsHurgenson> I hate to throw it away, but it takes up so much damn space :(
[02:55:41] <arti> drop that shit off of a roof
[02:55:33] * SpallsHurgenson wonders what to do with his ancient 22" CRT monitor with really great color...
[02:55:18] <arti> maybe Konomi is part turtle
[02:55:03] * juggs hands Konomi The Cloak Of Invisibility - there no need to hide all the time now
[02:54:05] <juggs> that was meant to sound like a good thing, but I don;t think it came out well
[02:53:53] * Konomi hides
[02:53:52] <Konomi> many variables
[02:53:50] <Konomi> oh I do declare
[02:52:47] <juggs> stuff gets fixed before its broken around here. Good work chaps :D
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[02:51:05] <paulej72> juggs that was a fat finger error and will be fixed when we update for nexus and utf8 support
[02:50:59] * Konomi loves being the messenger of bad news >.<
[02:50:39] <SedBot> <juggs> There's another similar one in messages sent when someone replies to your comment to a topic, the final link that is supposed to link the the topic doesn't have a sid set so it goes to a page not found. I think it is those ones anyway, I deleted all my messages :D
[02:50:39] <juggs> s/it it/it is/
[02:50:06] <juggs> There's another similar one in messages sent when someone replies to your comment to a topic, the final link that is supposed to link the the topic doesn't have a sid set so it goes to a page not found. I think it it those ones anyway, I deleted all my messages :D
[02:49:40] <paulej72> in the messages
[02:49:29] <paulej72> all of the journal articles and story links were firehose links not real ones
[02:48:59] <NCommander> I'll cry now
[02:48:57] <NCommander> Oh wait, you're serious
[02:48:53] <NCommander> hahahahahahah ...
[02:48:31] <paulej72> NCommander: it works if Firehose is installed
[02:48:25] <Konomi> no surprise there x.x
[02:48:08] <NCommander> Konomi, /. and the old code did that
[02:48:08] <Konomi> okay
[02:47:56] * Konomi hides
[02:47:55] <Konomi> it's a feature to be blank!?
[02:47:55] <paulej72> Konomi: that was broken in the pervious version as well. I need to fix that, but I need to make sure that the journals are sending all of the info i need to make the url to the messaging system
[02:47:40] <NCommander> Konomi, strictly speaking, its not a bug
[02:47:17] <Konomi> the only thing I can click on is delete message x.x
[02:46:21] <Konomi> but new journal entires seem to have nothing for me
[02:46:20] <paulej72> NCommander: I just remeber reading the comment but not the specific code so I wanted to make sure we were OK
[02:46:10] <Konomi> comment moderation messages have content
[02:45:46] <Konomi> but no link for me to go to the journal entry?
[02:45:37] <Konomi> note the new message with a *
[02:45:33] <monopoly> Filetype: PNG image data1121 341 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced (41 KiB)
[02:45:32] <Konomi> http://i5.minus.com
[02:45:31] <Konomi> question
[02:45:28] <juggs> that clarified it I think :D
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[02:45:04] <paulej72> from index,pl but it is not set to specifically look for polotics stories
[02:44:59] <paulej72> }
[02:44:58] <paulej72> $stories = [ grep { !$_->{offmainpage} } @$stories ];
[02:44:57] <paulej72> # full on the mainpage
[02:44:56] <paulej72> # NO nexuses that the user has requested appear in
[02:44:55] <paulej72> # XXX should only grep a story out if the story has
[02:44:53] <paulej72> }
[02:44:52] <paulej72> }
[02:44:50] <paulej72> }
[02:44:49] <paulej72> $story_hr->{offmainpage} = 1 if $om_hr->{ $story_hr->{stoid} };
[02:44:47] <paulej72> for my $story_hr (@$stories) {
[02:44:46] <paulej72> if (keys %$om_hr) {
[02:44:44] <paulej72> qq{stoid IN ($stoid_in_str) AND name='offmainpage' AND value != 0});
[02:44:43] <paulej72> 'story_param',
[02:44:41] <paulej72> $om_hr = $gse_db->sqlSelectAllKeyValue('stoid, value',
[02:44:40] <paulej72> if ($stoid_in_str) {
[02:44:38] <paulej72> my $om_hr = { };
[02:44:37] <paulej72> if ($gSkin->{skid} == $constants->{mainpage_skid}) {
[02:44:35] <paulej72> # checked at story display time. -Jamie 2008-01-25
[02:44:34] <paulej72> # an "offmainpage" boolean at story save time which will be
[02:44:32] <paulej72> # weight or higher. Instead I've been asked to hardcode
[02:44:31] <paulej72> # have gSE only select stories from its nexus list with that
[02:44:29] <paulej72> # include a weight in the (stoid,nexus_tid) tuple, and to
[02:44:28] <paulej72> # proper fix would be to redesign story_topics_rendered to
[02:44:27] <paulej72> # A kludge to keep Politics stories off the mainpage. The
[02:43:58] <NCommander> paulej72, back up, what hardcoded system?
[02:42:14] <monopoly> Title: Cantina band 9 hours 59 minutes 59 seconds - YouTube
[02:42:13] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[02:42:08] <Bender> karma - konomi: 11
[02:42:08] <arti> Konomi++
[02:42:01] <arti> i'm surprised nobody mentioned this earlier
[02:41:52] <arti> well done konomi
[02:39:49] <mrcoolbp> hah
[02:27:07] <NCommander> SO THERE
[02:27:05] <NCommander> Konomi, piwik confirms you are
[02:26:52] <Konomi> am not
[02:26:21] <juggs> I see you peeping Konomi
[02:26:20] <NCommander> Konomi, .......................................................................................................................................................................
[02:26:12] <paulej72> NCommander: there is a hard coded system to keep ploitcs stories off the main pge we need to tgurn it off
[02:26:08] * Konomi hides
[02:26:05] <Konomi> they're going to cyber
[02:25:36] <NCommander> matt_, sure
[02:22:38] <matt_> just got it. pm?
[02:22:29] <NCommander> matt_, I sent you an email
[02:20:56] <juggs> ooooh the suspense - it's all too much :D
[02:16:28] <arti> mrcool is doing ranged attacks with Telephone
[02:16:12] <arti> i think they're still tackling the boss fight
[02:16:05] * arti hears distant FF battle music
[02:14:16] <matt_> how goes the wildcard cert.-ing?
[02:13:30] <matt_> NC, hi!
[02:13:23] <NCommander> hi matt_
[02:12:31] <juggs> aha! I espy the matt_ behind the mask!
[02:12:22] <matt_> mrcoolbp, hi!
[02:12:15] <mrcoolbp> hey matt_
[02:11:11] <matt_> NCommander, PM?
[02:10:02] <arti> "let's build a beer belly"
[02:09:43] <arti> i figured i could scan them and you could 3d print them
[02:09:21] <matt_> nice! just insert them gently into your usb port.
[02:08:55] <arti> we just ordered some pizzas, you're welcome to some slices
[02:08:33] <matt_> arti, hi!
[02:08:21] <arti> hello matt
[02:07:39] <matt_> hi
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[02:03:13] <mrcoolbp> cool
[02:01:42] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, email sent to matt
[01:59:24] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, we need to get the WHOIS record to magic my name
[01:58:14] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: he should still have it, but it should be avail for transfer soon
[01:58:04] <NCommander> juggs, no, but I temporary made it show up to test shit
[01:57:46] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, matt has the domain right?
[01:53:42] <juggs> Is Meta supposed to have an icon on this page? https://dev.soylentnews.org
[01:51:52] <paulej72> Ok I need to go get some food and supplies. be back in a few.
[01:51:20] <paulej72> a few
[01:51:13] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: did you look at them?
[01:50:58] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: yes agreed
[01:50:38] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: on a related note, we can’t have theme specific topic icons, so all icons need to be theme agnostic. that means they need to work on almost any background without looking like crap
[01:49:57] <juggs> No - certainly don't put meta in meta... put it in the locked filing cabinet behind the door marked BEW... >NO CARRIER<
[01:48:14] <paulej72> NCommander: are we just doing meta and politics for now?
[01:47:38] <paulej72> NCommander: when we launch this we will need to tell people to fix the login issue with a logout and login. Also do not put the story about meta in meta so people will not have an issue getting to the story.
[01:45:33] <mrcoolbp> k
[01:45:24] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: the cookies were never set up properly the first time so NCommander had to fix. Log out and back in and meta should work fine.
[01:44:54] <mrcoolbp> it's kinda random when it happens
[01:44:45] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: not sure
[01:44:26] <arti> eww, never called one
[01:44:19] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: at least you don't have to call them
[01:44:17] <arti> i hate canadians too
[01:44:17] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, ... am I the only one who doesn't have that issue?
[01:44:09] <NCommander> I really hate CAs
[01:44:06] <mrcoolbp> hmm, when I went to meta.dev it logged me out
[01:44:04] <NCommander> me
[01:44:03] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, now they want to call us
[01:42:17] <monopoly> Title: Dev.SN: Dev.SN is dead developers
[01:42:16] <juggs> ooh I see smiley faces at http://meta.dev.soylentnews.org
[01:41:36] <NCommander> paulej72, beginning infinite monkeys test
[01:40:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Private U.S. Report Accuses Another Chinese Military Unit of Hacking - http://sylnt.us - show-me-some-evidence
[01:38:23] <paulej72> NCommander: Please test changes on dev. I have sections menu, brief article css styling and nothing breaks when you set topics or nexus
[01:38:11] <juggs> night
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[01:37:58] <DrMag> Ok, time to go home. Goodnight, all.
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[01:27:35] <juggs> I think the only unixy thing I was dabbling with in S/390 times was as few Motorola 900 Series that we had installed with clients. Don't recall much about it, they seemed nice at the time.
[01:24:11] <monopoly> Title: SoylentNews Comments | Dwarf Fortress Succession Game
[01:24:10] <NCommander> http://soylentnews.org - yay DF
[01:19:18] <weirdpercent> brb
[01:18:22] <juggs> Hmm, actually they're not that ancient are they.
[01:16:46] <juggs> You'll need to find some fossils to keep the thing running first
[01:16:06] <NCommander> juggs, maybe someday we can have SN run on a S/390 :-)
[01:15:12] <juggs> everything old is new again :D Next you'll be telling me someone has repackaged clustering and timesharing on big ass computery things and given it a buzzy name and everyone fell over themselves to pay for it
[01:14:48] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: I was hoping we could make it easy for them to view a custom feed of their selected favorite topics, or is that what you are saying?
[01:13:46] <NCommander> Kinda like subreddits
[01:13:41] <NCommander> The end goal I want is to get it to the point where end users can create and manage their own nexuses
[01:13:17] <weirdpercent> like supercategories
[01:13:01] <juggs> hmm I didn't even know they had a name - just thought they were categories :D
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[01:12:21] <NCommander> weirdpercent, ding ding ding
[01:12:12] <weirdpercent> ah, like stacks in stackexchange
[01:11:58] <mrcoolbp> lol
[01:11:57] <NCommander> weirdpercent, politics.slashdot.org is a nexus, or yro.slashdot.org
[01:11:40] * weirdpercent googled nexus too, couldn't find /. nexus with all the /. articles about "nexus"
[01:11:39] * NCommander notes on things I hate to deal with the worst, I think CAs rate lower than payroll and the IRS
[01:11:04] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: I'll pester you about it later then
[01:10:47] * juggs trundles off to google nexus ~again~ :D
[01:10:45] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, I'm discussing our incorporation situation w/ startssl now
[01:10:40] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: did you check out that icon set?
[01:10:24] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, I think its best if we just have nexuses, and pretend topics don't exist except for the pretty icon
[01:10:23] <mrcoolbp> eyerp
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[01:10:17] <arti> lol
[01:10:12] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, welcome to slashcode, eject brain now
[01:10:02] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: even more confusing
[01:10:00] <arti> nexuses(tm)
[01:09:53] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, in slash terms, they're essentially the same thing
[01:09:45] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, nexuses
[01:09:42] <mrcoolbp> anyway...
[01:09:39] <mrcoolbp> nexi?
[01:09:20] <mrcoolbp> topics VS nexuses
[01:09:11] <mrcoolbp> that part is a little confusing to be honest
[01:09:09] <weirdpercent> juggs: oh yes can't do without ClassicShell
[01:08:51] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, well, we can do it with standard topics as well
[01:08:34] <mrcoolbp> weirdpercent: they are working on getting nexus like in /. set up so users can filter out things in that "topic" so to speak
[01:08:22] <juggs> weirdpercent, Take the upgrade to 8.1, then install "update 1" - it's much improved. Still needs some ClassicShell goodness though for my liking.
[01:08:12] <NCommander> (oh look, more money going out the fucking door)
[01:08:06] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, the certificate is meant for "private sites", we'll have to do organization verification post-incorporation
[01:07:41] <paulej72> NCommander: does that mean I do not have to bust my but to get the styling figured out
[01:07:38] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, however, a catch
[01:07:31] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, might cause issues with SSL folks, but yes
[01:07:21] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: we can still set it up though we'll just get more warnings right?
[01:06:45] <mrcoolbp> jeeZ
[01:06:28] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, bah, its going to take 5-10 business days, I think its acceptable though
[01:06:12] <weirdpercent> 8 is worse period. I almost want to go back to 7, this Dell came with 8.
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[01:05:24] <juggs> 8 is worse than 7 for throwing a tantrum. It's recoverable though.
[01:04:18] <weirdpercent> Oh I did, with surprisingly few problems, but there's always the potential for something to go horribly wrong whenever Windows is involved. I thought it was an acceptable risk.
[01:03:17] <juggs> Try resizing a Win7 or Win8x OS partition like that and see if they still boot OK :D
[01:02:05] <weirdpercent> I've always partitioned my disks using Knoppix to boot a live CD and running GParted, or just running Gparted from the Ubuntu/Mint live cd
[01:01:53] <juggs> I don't think it's that, it just keeps tabs on it's own partitions for integrity checking. It's perfectly happy to shrink itself.
[01:00:44] <weirdpercent> of course not. HOW DARE you install something besides Windows?!
[01:00:36] * juggs hands NCommander a vBeer
[01:00:11] <juggs> install alongside would probably be the way to go if you have the HDD capacity to spare, although it's advisable to resize your Win7 using Win7 disk utils, it really really doesn't like it's partitions being messed about with by others :D
[00:59:58] * NCommander swears more
[00:59:08] <mrcoolbp> no worries
[00:57:19] <weirdpercent> sorry bro, we'll get you a linux installation one way or another.
[00:56:44] * mrcoolbp gives up on linux mint working under VM for now
[00:56:08] <mrcoolbp> okay, let me check out my todo list here...
[00:55:50] <mrcoolbp> he said something about local access numbers a few hundred lines back
[00:54:51] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: didn't you say you still had an aol account until 5 years ago?
[00:54:33] <weirdpercent> aol...
[00:54:32] * weirdpercent shudders
[00:54:30] <mrcoolbp> now soylent = )
[00:54:23] <mrcoolbp> yahoo
[00:54:21] <mrcoolbp> aol
[00:54:19] <mrcoolbp> mine was always mrcoolb
[00:54:11] <mrcoolbp> ah yes
[00:54:01] <weirdpercent> I remember my first email address, rodent83@gis.net
[00:53:51] <mrcoolbp> ROFL
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[00:53:44] <weirdpercent> alas, you bested me at the game of angelfire.
[00:53:43] <mrcoolbp> had it ever since = )
[00:53:37] <mrcoolbp> that's how I got my handle mrcoolbp
[00:53:27] <mrcoolbp> it was soooooooooooo cool
[00:53:21] <mrcoolbp> and my angelfire page had way more blinking marquee text boxes
[00:52:58] <weirdpercent> yes you were
[00:52:50] * mrcoolbp was the second
[00:52:26] <weirdpercent> I was definitely the first kid on my block with an email address, website, and portable mp3 player.
[00:51:52] <weirdpercent> to give you some perspective, I was making websites on angelfire in 1995, coding in Perl in 2000, and coding in ruby for about 3, 4 years now.
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[00:50:22] <weirdpercent> juggs: indeed, never heard of txt2re but that's good to know
[00:50:03] <weirdpercent> NCommander: hehe, maybe I could help with your perl code. I mostly just did string manipulation and file ops
[00:49:49] <paulej72> NCommander: got sections menu on dev. It will spit out the skins in order of the table for now.
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[00:49:21] <monopoly> Title: txt2re: headache relief for programmers :: regular expression generator
[00:49:19] <juggs> Ahh, rubular looks similar to http://txt2re.com that I keep handy for the odd time I do have to wrestle with it
[00:48:50] <NCommander> weirdpercent, I'll buy you beer :-)
[00:48:46] <mrcoolbp> (sedbot doesn't work on /me's)
[00:48:35] <mrcoolbp> er convince*
[00:48:26] * mrcoolbp is trying to convinve weirdpercent to help out paulej72 and NCommander
[00:47:29] <weirdpercent> before ruby I wrote Perl code. that's part of why I'm here checking things out.l
[00:47:00] <monopoly> Title: Rubular: a Ruby regular expression editor and tester
[00:47:00] <weirdpercent> since I'm mainly a ruby coder I use http://rubular.com and get instant feedback if my regex is working
[00:45:42] <juggs> I don't use them enough so I find them a royal PITA
[00:45:05] <weirdpercent> I like regular expressions, they're fun.
[00:44:34] <mrcoolbp> you learn quick weirdpercent = )
[00:44:15] <SedBot> <weirdpercent> there's paid hosting and all other hosting-type services discussed there. a search for wildcard cert turned up 216 topics.
[00:44:15] <weirdpercent> s/sert/cert/
[00:44:02] <weirdpercent> there's paid hosting and all other hosting-type services discussed there. a search for wildcard sert turned up 216 topics.
[00:43:31] <monopoly> Title: Free webhosting - Freewebspace.net
[00:43:30] <weirdpercent> anyway, guys, http://www.freewebspace.net is where I look when ever I'm looking for webhosting services. I've been a forum member there since...2000 I think?
[00:43:22] * NCommander can see your real name by looking at the certificate information
[00:43:07] <NCommander> bryan, BTW, there IS some personal information on your SSL cert
[00:42:55] <juggs> I still find myself mashing F12 when I boot into Win7 :D
[00:42:49] * mrcoolbp made a mod where you could kill barney
[00:42:39] * mrcoolbp misses modding quake back in the day
[00:42:21] <mrcoolbp> but I didn't make the connection, nice
[00:42:13] <mrcoolbp> yup, just looked it up = )
[00:41:59] <weirdpercent> mrcoolbp: remember in Quake the ~ would make the console drop down? that's what guake does for linux terminal.
[00:41:25] <weirdpercent> guake/yaquake are awesome
[00:39:42] <juggs> weirdpercent, customised for a mint - most people seem to be new refugees and keep it fairly stock. Only thing I tend to always chuck on is Guake
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[00:38:15] <weirdpercent> everything else is pretty much vanilla.
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[00:37:55] <weirdpercent> juggs: well I don't know if customized is the right word. I run ZSH, terminator, and use light table as my IDE.
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[00:36:57] <arti> as in you have an office?
[00:36:52] <juggs> weirdpercent, I'm fine with a fairly vanilla mint MATE personally. But eh, whatever works.
[00:36:42] <NCommander> Bank statements don't appear to be good enough
[00:36:34] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, the problem is it HAS to be a utility statement
[00:36:32] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: then you don't have to return to living in her basement just yet = )
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[00:36:08] <mrcoolbp> ah
[00:36:04] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, I can get my mom to read the code and such from it
[00:35:54] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: hop back on that train then
[00:35:49] <weirdpercent> and that could take awhile.
[00:35:38] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, looks like they're going to have to send me a piece of registered mail to verify
[00:35:13] <weirdpercent> mrcoolbp: well I hope you don't have to buy a new one. worst case scenario besides buying new, is having to partition the HD and dual boot.
[00:34:38] <weirdpercent> juggs: yeah, I like linux mint but vanilla is kind of overly simplified. My linux mint is highly customized
[00:34:20] * mrcoolbp gave it 1Gb ram this time, I'll give it 10 minutes and the ngive up and go buy another computer
[00:33:23] <juggs> good point weirdpercent - it's probably running everything from page file
[00:32:21] <juggs> NCommander, money grubbing barstewards the lot of them
[00:32:03] <weirdpercent> mrcoolbp: you might have to tweak the Virtualbox settings, or 1.6Ghz and 2g RAM might not be enough in Win 7
[00:30:58] <juggs> then e to edit the parameters
[00:30:34] <juggs> Mash the shift key right at the start of the boot sequence to get the GRUB menu up
[00:29:44] <mrcoolbp> I'm guessing that's not possible with an ISO, but I'm a touch out of my comfort zone here
[00:29:11] <juggs> edit the boot parameters to remove the quiet splash parameters next time ;)
[00:29:11] <NCommander> I fucking hate certificate authorities
[00:29:03] * NCommander seems to be stuck with a canned message loop at startssl
[00:27:57] * mrcoolbp tried that last time also
[00:27:18] <mrcoolbp> nope
[00:26:52] <juggs> Esc should kill the splash screen and reveal the boot processing irc
[00:26:03] <mrcoolbp> let's see if it works this time
[00:25:56] <mrcoolbp> well I'm back to watching the damn LinuxMint logo do absolutely nothing
[00:25:22] <mrcoolbp> yeah it was 1.2 Gb
[00:25:07] <SedBot> <juggs> or livedvd as it is these days with mint
[00:25:07] <juggs> s/ir/or/
[00:24:56] <juggs> ir livedvd as it is these days with mint
[00:24:26] * mrcoolbp is trying it again
[00:24:19] <juggs> mrcoolbp, how did you install it to the VM if not with a livecd?
[00:23:44] <mrcoolbp> juggs: maybe I should have checked "livecd"
[00:23:24] <juggs> certainly sounds like it
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[00:22:50] <mrcoolbp> later crutchy
[00:22:50] <SedBot> <crutchy> gtg see yas after workipoos
[00:22:50] <crutchy> s/pp/po/
[00:22:40] <crutchy> gtg see yas after workippos
[00:22:06] <mrcoolbp> maybe it hung
[00:22:03] <mrcoolbp> juggs: its a fresh boot of windows too, I'm not sure WTF is going on
[00:20:12] <mrcoolbp> 2 gb ram total
[00:20:04] * mrcoolbp is running win 7 at 1.6 GHz
[00:18:46] <juggs> 30 mins?! wth man - are you running it on an atom chip with no VT-x or something?
[00:18:37] <weirdpercent> brb smoke break
[00:18:14] <weirdpercent> I see what you mean though
[00:18:10] <monopoly> Title: slashcode/Slash/Display/Display.pm at master · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub
[00:18:09] <mrcoolbp> it's been 30 min...
[00:18:08] <weirdpercent> mrcoolbp: looking at, for instance, https://github.com I can basically understand what's going on
[00:18:01] <juggs> it's not the swiftest booter in my experience
[00:17:43] <mrcoolbp> booting in a VM for installation
[00:17:24] * mrcoolbp needs a new computer
[00:17:15] <juggs> installing or booting?
[00:17:03] <mrcoolbp> WTF linux mint is still loading....
[00:16:32] <mrcoolbp> weirdpercent: did you look at slashcode yet and proceed to vomit?
[00:16:03] <weirdpercent> you were right
[00:15:24] <mrcoolbp> see weirdpercent: I thought you'd like it here = )
[00:14:47] <weirdpercent> if there's a json api that's much better
[00:14:27] <weirdpercent> crutchy: I see you've got wolfram alpha in that search bot. that's pretty cool, I thought about adding it to my tool but it seems very complex even to scrape
[00:13:45] <juggs> makes two of us. after I blew Regurgitator away earlier with my fumble-thumbed rm -rf I was disinclined to meddle any more today, I need a damn good kip first
[00:13:38] <weirdpercent> cool
[00:13:10] <mrcoolbp> weirdpercent: in case you're wondering what they are talking about /join #rss-bot
[00:12:38] <crutchy> i'm gradually building up some web scraping lib functions for exec scripts
[00:12:04] <crutchy> that's ok. i been a bit lazy working on my feeds script
[00:11:41] <juggs> crutchy, thanks for your suggestions on my journal - I'm not ignoring it, just not replying to it til it's done :D
[00:11:39] <crutchy> less canned tuna
[00:11:36] <weirdpercent> not as much as mountain dew
[00:11:20] <crutchy> fish might be more pure there
[00:11:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Studies Suggest That Mobile Phone Exposure Negatively Affects Sperm Quality - http://sylnt.us - don't-panic-just-yet
[00:11:17] <mrcoolbp> sure
[00:11:09] <weirdpercent> what kind of fish is holy? angelfish?
[00:11:08] <crutchy> hmm
[00:10:52] <mrcoolbp> crutchy you going fishing near a church?
[00:10:33] <mrcoolbp> or not..
[00:10:32] <crutchy> holy carp!
[00:10:23] <mrcoolbp> probably programmed his bots to do it
[00:10:21] <Bender> uppers of crutchy are: xlefay: 16, Subsentient: 12, hax0rz: 7, MrBluze: 3, chromas: 2, arti: 2, kobach: 2, FatPhil: 2, Bytram: 2, Popeidol: 2, SirFinkus: 1, AndyTheAbsurd: 1, NCommander: 1, IT_phreak: 1, Bytram|afk: 1, mrcoolbp: 1, swisskid: 1, melikamp: 1, gallondr00nk: 1, ragequit: 1, juggs: 1, paulej72: 1, auto_def: 1, mattie_p: 1, prospectacle: 1, aqu4: 1, Cyprus: - 1 more
[00:10:21] <crutchy> !whoup crutchy
[00:10:18] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 66
[00:10:18] <NCommander> crutchy--
[00:10:16] <weirdpercent> just like the US dollar!
[00:10:12] <Bender> karma - crunchy: -1
[00:10:12] <NCommander> crunchy--
[00:10:09] <NCommander> Karma inflation!
[00:09:59] <mrcoolbp> whoa
[00:09:57] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 67
[00:09:56] <mrcoolbp> crutchy++
[00:09:53] <mrcoolbp> thanks crutchy
[00:09:46] <Bender> karma - mrcoolbp: 14
[00:09:46] <crutchy> mrcoolbp++ /yeah 13 is a bad number
[00:09:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, also a product of two primes
[00:09:21] <weirdpercent> now it repeats 33.333333
[00:09:18] <crutchy> :-/
[00:09:10] <NCommander> Cool, a number divisible by 11
[00:08:49] <mrcoolbp> lol
[00:08:46] <crutchy> mwahahaha!
[00:08:42] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 33
[00:08:42] <crutchy> NCommander++
[00:08:30] <NCommander> Cool, a power of 2!
[00:08:20] <Bender> karma of ncommander is 32
[00:08:20] <NCommander> !karma NCommander
[00:08:10] <weirdpercent> bad omen! you stay away!
[00:07:58] <mrcoolbp> that's lucky...
[00:07:46] <Bender> karma of mrcoolbp is 13
[00:07:46] <mrcoolbp> !karma mrcoolbp
[00:07:24] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: great news
[00:07:18] <NCommander> Hopefully we'll have something put together by Friday
[00:07:10] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, BTW, I've been discussing stuff w/ matt
[00:06:38] <weirdpercent> no problem
[00:06:30] <weirdpercent> whee
[00:06:22] <Bender> karma - weirdpercent: 1
[00:06:22] <crutchy> weirdpercent++
[00:06:17] <crutchy> thanks weirdpercent :-)
[00:06:06] <crutchy> haha 'asston'... cool!
[00:05:45] <weirdpercent> that's the JSON equivalent
[00:05:35] <monopoly> Filetype: ASCII text, with very long lines, with no line terminators (1 lines, 4 KiB)
[00:05:34] <weirdpercent> http://api.urbandictionary.com
[00:04:31] <monopoly> Title: test/scripts/definitions.php at master · crutchy-/test · GitHub
[00:04:30] <crutchy> https://github.com
[00:04:11] Blackmoore is now known as blacklmoore|afk
[00:04:09] <mrcoolbp> later Blackmoore
[00:04:02] <Blackmoore> g'night all
[00:03:36] <monopoly> Title: crutchy-/test · GitHub
[00:03:35] <exec> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[00:03:35] <exec> https://github.com
[00:03:34] <weirdpercent> they have an unofficial JSON api that's pretty simple, that's what I used
[00:03:34] <exec> IRC SCRIPT EXECUTIVE
[00:03:33] <crutchy> ~
[00:03:26] <crutchy> just scraping and gouging violently :-P
[00:03:06] <crutchy> no api
[00:02:55] <crutchy> mine's pretty dodgy
[00:02:38] * mrcoolbp is Ben
[00:02:27] <weirdpercent> crutchy: I wrote a command line tool that searches, among other APIs, urban dictionary. Ben thought I could adapt it into an IRC bot
[00:02:06] <crutchy> (never thought i would, but meh)
[00:02:06] <mrcoolbp> he found a few bugs too
[00:01:52] <weirdpercent> mrcoolbp: that's cool
[00:01:40] <crutchy> NCommander: i've introduced my wife to this irc
[00:01:27] <NCommander> I mean, I kinda get it, since they insure you
[00:01:27] <NCommander> I do find it absurd that they nick and dime you death for what is essentially a couple of numbers
[00:00:58] <mrcoolbp> lol, yeah, weirdpercent: dad got a few stories accepted already
[00:00:51] <exec> [urbandictionary] shit-ton: Widely adaptable large unit of measure. Generally speaking, take an amount of something that an average person may have and add a shitload more to it. This results in a shit-ton.
[00:00:49] <crutchy> ~define shitton
[00:00:34] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, your lucky your family is interested enough to come visit us here :-P
[00:00:29] <weirdpercent> NCommander: that's a pretty good price