#Soylent | Logs for 2014-06-10

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[00:01:11] <NCommander> Give me a few minutes, and I can create a "On by default" section, "Off By Default" section
[00:06:29] <paulej72> NCommander: I would rather have the on by default ones just be childeren of the main page. then have the others that are not children of the main page be selectable as on. As of right now the nexus that are sibilings with the main page are on and unselectable. (forced always on) and we do not want that.
[00:07:03] <Subsentient> NCommander: http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:04] <monopoly> Title: Abolishing minimum wage vs gay "cure" centers, guess which people are mad about: SoylentNews Submission
[00:10:45] <paulej72> Subsentient: I am sort of on the side that minimum wage laws can be detimental to the ecconmy. so it would be not too hard to put this one on the bottom of my list of things that are bad about this bill
[00:12:20] <NCommander> paulej72, we could do that, though we still need a way to get all nexuses to show up, and then if the user doesn't have defaults, set some
[00:14:09] <NCommander> Holy ****
[00:14:13] <NCommander> Subsentient, I'm publishing that
[00:14:48] <chromas> unedited?
[00:15:18] <NCommander> Subsentient, I'm striking the last bit
[00:15:19] <NCommander> Is this sickening or what? The thing that people are mad about is gay camp when they're threatening minimum wage in a severely crippled economy, and trying to remove the guaranteed right to vote.
[00:15:19] <NCommander> I am in disbelief. People are stupid.
[00:15:23] <NCommander> Subsentient, please post that as a comment
[00:17:37] <NCommander> Subsentient, its live
[00:17:53] <NCommander> Someone should post it to reddit :-P
[00:17:54] * NCommander ducks
[00:18:04] <chromas> Posting on the quarter hour?
[00:18:24] <NCommander> chromas, there was one article in the queue that won't go out for awhile
[00:18:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> NCommander: Every time I think I've seen the stupidest that humans can be and still have sufficient brain function to speak, I find that I have once again overestimated the number of functioning neurons needed for speech.
[00:19:43] <chromas> AndyTheAbsurd: I just want to keep you on your toes :D
[00:19:46] <crutchy> see yas guys... another day, another dollar
[00:19:54] <crutchy> ~q
[00:19:54] <chromas> Byr crutchy
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[00:19:58] <chromas> s/r/e/
[00:19:58] <SedBot> <chromas> Bye crutchy
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[00:21:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Texas Republicans Adopt Extremely Controversal Platform - http://sylnt.us - unbelievable
[00:21:37] * NCommander just posted it to his FB page
[00:23:09] * NCommander feels someone should post it to reddit and everywhere else
[00:26:14] * AndyTheAbsurd submits it to reddit
[00:26:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> http://ww.reddit.com
[00:26:22] <monopoly> Title: Texas Republicans endorse gay 'treatment' : politics
[00:26:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> go upvote if you've got an acount there
[00:28:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> yay my reddit karma has increased
[00:30:01] <chromas> Mine's still 1
[00:30:12] * chromas forgot about reddit
[00:31:26] <paulej72> I am having a ball looking at barrapunto. They have the same shitty slash code that we had to deal with, but since they were on an older version, they probably did not have as much d2 crap to deal with
[00:35:23] <NCommander> paulej72, isn't it fun looking at a slash site (or slashdot) and knowing what powers it :-)?
[00:35:36] <paulej72> yea
[00:35:37] <NCommander> paulej72, my guess is they forked off somewhere in 2005-2006
[00:35:45] <paulej72> T_2_5_0_152
[00:35:50] <NCommander> Or that
[00:36:09] * NCommander notes once we have the bugs cleaned up, we should probably reach out to them to help them get on modern code
[00:36:40] <NCommander> AndyTheAbsurd, .... you couldn't have posted a link to SN? :-/
[00:36:55] <paulej72> NCommander: yes, but this issue is we may have deleted a plugin that they really like
[00:37:17] <NCommander> paulej72, undelete is *always* an option :-)
[00:38:30] <NCommander> paulej72, so, going back to nexuses, what do you need from me? :-)
[00:38:42] <paulej72> NCommander: I wish that the slash devs put a date in that upgrades file for each version
[00:40:15] <paulej72> NCommander: a design document with how you want everything to work. I don’t want to make changes and find out that it is the exact opposite of what you expected :)
[00:41:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> someone find a genie?
[00:41:23] <paulej72> NCommander: It seems like we can deploy nexuses right now that are children of the main page and they will work as ecpected, other than we need to style the pages.
[00:41:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Texas Republicans Adopt Extremely Controversial Platform - http://sylnt.us - unbelievable
[00:42:45] <paulej72> NCommander: if you want to install a meta nexus on prod, then we can do that with only some css changes to make that work. We can then implement the full nexus support for 14.08.
[00:43:00] <NCommander> paulej72, well, I would have liked a DF nexus (non-default)
[00:43:06] <NCommander> paulej72, but my though was relatively simple
[00:43:16] <NCommander> We have a set of nexuses which are default/on for ACs
[00:43:32] <NCommander> And the nexuses which are off by default (i.e., dwarf fortress, or a community run one)
[00:43:33] <ciri> [Google translate] no (en -> de): unsere fe sind stayin.
[00:45:02] <paulej72> NCommander: it seems that code will take a while to develop. I can make it a priority, but I would not want to push it out without a lot of testing.
[00:45:30] <NCommander> paulej72, it seems relatively simple */2 cents*
[00:45:42] <NCommander> paulej72, I'd like to have a filter for meta though, so peope can stop bitching about it
[00:45:57] <NCommander> Perhaps also one for politics
[00:46:45] <NCommander> paulej72, lets get the lowhanging fruit, fix the CSS, and delete the check on disabling too many sections
[00:46:48] <paulej72> NCommander: I think that I would need to mimic the code I have in place for slashboxes to do the default on and off. That was a lot of code that had to be changed.
[00:46:57] <NCommander> paulej72, fair enough
[00:47:07] * NCommander wonders if we can have nexus specific /boxes >:-)
[00:48:29] <paulej72> NCommander: yes I think for a point release fixing the css and disabling the stupid minium box would be enough. I can have that ready in a few days.
[00:49:19] <paulej72> NCommander: I am going to set meta on dev to be a child of the main page as that is how we will initially run it.
[00:51:15] <NCommander> paulej72, alright. We also probably should have the nexus bit of the line be underlined
[01:00:47] * NCommander hates life
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[01:15:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, done beating my head against a wall for the day. have yet to figure out what kind of insanity was happening between dev and vm.
[01:16:46] <paulej72> NCommander: when you updated the topics, did you put the Nexus and Topics in? and did you make the Main Page a child of Nexus?
[01:18:24] <NCommander> paulej72, I did it in the database directly because the topic creation page in backslash is fucking twichy as hell
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[01:19:43] <paulej72> NCommander: the Nexus and Topcis topics break the nexus slections system
[01:19:55] <NCommander> paulej72, ???
[01:21:33] <paulej72> NCommander: i made meta a child of main page. now when I set my prefs Nexus and Topics are set in my prefs to story_never_topic and thus I do not see a bunch of stories
[01:24:41] <paulej72> NCommander: not sue what is going on here, but I just looked at prod and what was there is the same excetp for meta. I’ll need to track down what is causing the issue.
[01:26:11] <NCommander> paulej72, great
[01:26:12] <NCommander> -_-;
[01:27:04] <Alberto> NCommander, <link type="text/plain" rel="author" href="//soylentnews.org/humans.txt" />
[01:27:05] <Alberto> <-- thats wrong and not working
[01:28:05] <Alberto> Also there is an if( window.location.hostname.indexOf('slashdot.org') >= 0 ) {
[01:28:05] <Alberto> o.O
[01:28:51] <Alberto> And a Uncaught ReferenceError: cmCreatePageviewTag is not defined
[01:29:08] <paulej72> NCommander: what changes did you make to users.pl?
[01:30:20] <bucket58> while you're all here, is there an updated torrent to a dev vm? the one linked from the wiki isn't working
[01:30:35] <NCommander> paulej72, I didn't make any
[01:30:41] <NCommander> bucket58, no, I need to fix that
[01:31:08] <bucket58> ok, so it wasn't me then :P
[01:50:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Hidden Biases in Big Data - http://sylnt.us - witty-internet-joke
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[02:00:39] <Ethanol-fueled> seein' a lot of +4 and +5 trolls....is supermoderation being tested on teh down-low?
[02:00:56] <Ethanol-fueled> or a "contraversial" mark?
[02:01:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Or do you guys just have a good sense of humor?
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[03:00:21] <SpallsHurgenson> huh, there goes the myth that most Americans believe the government's lie about snowden... http://www.newsweek.com
[03:00:22] <monopoly> Title: Most Americans Think Snowden Did the Right Thing, Poll Says
[03:01:49] <SpallsHurgenson> that's what I said, you silly bot!
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[03:04:50] <chromas> It's the SpallsHurgensonTauntBaut
[03:04:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, bots like that really need a "check if 80% of the words in the title are also in the URL" function so that they don't reply in that case.
[03:05:08] <SpallsHurgenson> argh, these stupid low-power CFL and LED bulbs suck!
[03:06:08] <SpallsHurgenson> back in the day, when I had decent incandescents, if there was a fly or mosquito in the room, I'd just have to wait ten or twenty minutes and then - poof - the problem solves itself with a whiff of roasting bug-flesh
[03:06:25] <SpallsHurgenson> now the damn things land on the LEDs and /laugh/ at me!
[03:06:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> let's see if we still have a problem bot on our hands: www.ntalk.de
[03:06:49] <chromas> Need to upgrade to laser diodes
[03:06:59] <chromas> that wasn't a url
[03:07:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> it is to that "monopoly" bot that used to be here
[03:07:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> or still is here
[03:07:59] <SpallsHurgenson> Nettalk - www.ntalk.de - IRC-Chatclient
[03:08:05] * AndyTheAbsurd had to check /names because irssi doesn't show a nicklist.
[03:08:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> http://www.ntalk.de
[03:08:20] <SpallsHurgenson> Nettalk - www.ntalk.de - IRC-Chatclient
[03:08:35] <chromas> Hey you're right, it didn't have http:// oh well, it ignores now
[03:08:43] <SpallsHurgenson> <beep> <boop> I. AM. A. BOT. <
[03:08:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> well, it doesn't get caught in a loop anymore like it did last week sometime.
[03:09:11] <chromas> Yeah; they said they'd take my bacon away if it happened again
[03:09:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> you don't want to risk your bacon.
[03:09:27] <chromas> and decrease my salary
[03:10:31] * SpallsHurgenson turns on the big halogen lamp and waits for the inevitable <fzzzt>
[03:11:11] <chromas> It would be nice if the bugs came out during the winter, when you want the extra heat anyway
[03:11:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> we need motorized coordinated multi-angle bug zapping lasers
[03:11:59] <chromas> You mean land-sharks?
[03:12:06] <SpallsHurgenson> I use those to keep Mothra away
[03:12:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> just calculate their location and hit 'em from four or five different angles with lasers that aren't powerful enough on their own to do any damage but make bugs go "pop!" when they combine
[03:13:47] <chromas> Also make sure they don't do it over your cup
[03:16:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> just do your drinking out of covered beer steins: http://upload.wikimedia.org
[03:16:04] <monopoly> Filetype: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01 (329 KiB)
[03:17:13] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm too afraid to use my covered beer steins, they keep breaking :)
[03:19:11] <SpallsHurgenson> (heh, I smell something burning... and I don't see the bug on the ceiling anymore :)
[03:21:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - General Anesthesia Exposure in Infancy Causes Long-Term Memory Deficits in Children - http://sylnt.us - can't-remember-when
[03:35:38] <NCommander> You know, I need to stop reading comments on the site
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[03:36:48] <paulej72> which one is it this time NCommander
[03:36:56] <SpallsHurgenson> is it a "oh my god, I gave up HOW many hours of sleep to run this site for these idiots?" sort of realization that makes you say that, ncommander?
[03:37:03] <NCommander> SpallsHurgenson, sometimes
[03:37:27] <SpallsHurgenson> heh
[03:37:35] <NCommander> http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:36] <monopoly> Title: SoylentNews Comments | Texas Republicans Adopt Extremely Controversial Platform
[03:38:16] <SpallsHurgenson> quick, somebody mod it +5 informative :)
[03:39:00] * NCommander glares at SpallsHurgenson
[03:39:27] <SpallsHurgenson> what is this "HN" of which soylent is apparently becoming 2.0?
[03:39:42] <paulej72> New Hampshire?
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[03:40:21] <NCommander> Hampshire Neuve
[03:40:24] * NCommander pies mrcoolbp
[03:41:00] <paulej72> whoever wrote the comment was a troll, as they are clueless on how ./ moderation worked for ACs
[03:41:43] * mrcool|work wipes pie off face
[03:41:59] <mrcool|work> what did I do now NCommander?
[03:43:29] <NCommander> mrcool|work, you walked in
[03:44:02] <SpallsHurgenson> <sigh> I wanted pie :(
[03:44:03] <ciri> I bet you squish crickets that come in on an undefined value at..." cryptic yet unhelpful. I just had an apple pie there, too.
[03:44:33] <NCommander> And other comments like this: http://soylentnews.org
[03:44:34] <monopoly> Title: SoylentNews Comments | Ask Soylent: Portable Approach to Web Apps?
[03:44:38] <NCommander> Seriously
[03:47:12] <paulej72> so a comment that has a line of all caps gets modded down as flamebait. Boo-fucking-hoo
[03:47:46] <NCommander> paulej72, yeah. It just bugs me when someone fairly active quits
[03:48:25] <paulej72> Reminds me of people who would complain that there emails were getting sent to the recipeinets spam folder. When you read what they wanted to send it looked like your typical spam email.
[03:50:56] <NCommander> paulej72, heh, point taken
[03:51:01] * NCommander is going to make a serious effort to try and quit smoking
[03:51:50] <paulej72> at least Ethanol Fueled is man (or wowan :) ) enough to say that his comments are meant to be controversial and only complained once people started modding everything he did as troll
[03:53:32] * NCommander has to get metamod implemented
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[03:55:25] <paulej72> NCommander: I cant find the issue with nexus selection on dev. the code says it should not happen, but it is.
[03:55:50] <NCommander> paulej72, ???
[03:56:42] <paulej72> my/homepage sets Nexus and Topic as story_never_nexus when saving even though neither is marked as a nexus
[03:57:08] <NCommander> paulej72, hrm
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[03:58:11] <paulej72> that then breaks viewing of stories as some of them are not shown
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[03:58:28] * SpallsHurgenson tries to decide if that is a "I have an idea as to what may be causing that" hrm, or a "oh god oh god, not something else, I don't wanna know!" hrm
[03:59:08] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm experiemnting
[04:00:06] <NCommander> paulej72, works fine here
[04:00:11] <Bytram> whoops! Looks like I just leaped into the middle of something... what's happening?
[04:00:15] <NCommander> I can collaspe and expand meta all day well
[04:00:21] <NCommander> Bytram, trying to quit smoking
[04:00:32] <paulej72> !grab Bytram
[04:00:32] <Bender> Added quote 182
[04:01:24] <paulej72> NCommander: did you save your homepage prefs?
[04:01:28] * Bytram wishes you the best of luck in your efforts, NCommander.
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[04:02:23] <NCommander> paulej72, yes
[04:02:30] <NCommander> paulej72, I can change it all I want, and no issues
[04:03:16] <NCommander> paulej72, oh, I see, missing stories
[04:03:50] <NCommander> paulej72, June, June, April
[04:04:22] <paulej72> check aginst ac
[04:04:57] <NCommander> paulej72, its stories without a topic that are being hidden for me
[04:05:00] <NCommander> Section is MIA
[04:05:09] <NCommander> If it has a topic, its MIA
[04:05:40] <NCommander> paulej72, I wonder if enabed the topic exclusion feature broke it
[04:07:00] <paulej72> no its the stories_never_topic var getting set on Nexus and Topic, If I clear the var in users_index it fixes the issue. These should never get set as they are not nexuses
[04:08:58] <NCommander> paulej72, oh fuck, I might know the problem
[04:09:09] <paulej72> yes
[04:09:37] <NCommander> paulej72, I set mainpage_displayablenexuses to: 1,23
[04:09:41] <NCommander> That would be nexuses
[04:09:42] <NCommander> and ...
[04:10:04] <paulej72> story_never_index
[04:10:09] <NCommander> Shit
[04:11:40] <NCommander> paulej72, I don't get it
[04:12:10] <paulej72> I don’t get it either
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[04:13:10] <NCommander> paulej72, I think we need more virgin sacrifices
[04:13:34] <chromas> Do we go to slashdot for that?
[04:14:12] <NCommander> chromas, craigslist
[04:14:37] * NCommander is about to hack up a lung
[04:15:10] * chromas finds it comically hilarious to read the explicit m/m bj posts on cl
[04:16:28] <NCommander> YOu know something
[04:16:36] <NCommander> If there's internet in hell, it *has* to be better than this
[04:16:40] <NCommander> IRC is fucking lagging
[04:18:04] <SpallsHurgenson> internet in hell is 1994 AOL
[04:21:43] <NCommander> SpallsHurgenson, I had AOL in 1994
[04:21:58] <NCommander> SpallsHurgenson, AOL had local access numbers *everywhere*
[04:22:07] <NCommander> WHich is why I still had an AOL account until about five years ago
[04:22:43] * SpallsHurgenson blames ncommander personally for "Eternal September"
[04:23:29] <NCommander> SpallsHurgenson, the truth is out there, the six year old me spearheaded millions of AOLers to USENET
[04:23:56] <SpallsHurgenson> I KNEW it!
[04:50:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Patches Windows 8 But Leaves Flaws in W7 - http://sylnt.us - incomplete-updates-are-available
[04:51:31] <SpallsHurgenson> that article looks familiar...
[04:54:40] <n1> oh no!
[04:59:30] <SpallsHurgenson> somebody forgot their pants again
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[05:41:39] <paulej72> NCommander: got nexus prefs saving working.
[05:44:14] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: the comments on barrapunto were talking about updating their code using ours = )
[05:44:42] <mrcoolbp> there were usual comments about how that would never happen though
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[05:57:50] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, nosotros necesatmos SoylentNews en espaol!
[05:58:13] * NCommander should be sleeping
[05:58:36] <paulej72> NCommander: what about japaneese
[06:01:04] <NCommander> I don't know enough Japanese to bitch :-)
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[06:03:24] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: how about portugese = )
[06:04:02] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, nope
[06:04:06] * NCommander should be sleeping
[06:04:11] <mrcoolbp> go to sleep then
[06:04:12] * NCommander is going to lie down and dream of something
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[06:10:09] <arti> ncommander: dream of work!
[06:10:13] <arti> arbeit macht frei
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[06:21:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Grade 9 Students Put ATM into Operator Mode; Bank in Disbelief - http://sylnt.us - those-meddling-kids
[06:28:11] <cykros> so everyone by now i assume has talked with eugene goostman
[06:28:23] <cykros> and realized how big of a sham this clickbait story of the year has been.
[06:28:34] <arti> wat
[06:28:42] <cykros> i got him to tacitly admit to not being a human :-)
[06:28:54] <cykros> arti: the story going around everywhere is that a chatbot beat the turing test.
[06:28:55] <arti> well on the internet nobody knows you're a dog
[06:29:02] <cykros> http://default-environment-sdqm3mrmp4.elasticbeanstalk.com there's the chatbot.
[06:29:03] <monopoly> Title: EG Homepage
[06:29:18] <cykros> tell me you can go a minute without it being painfully obvious
[06:29:21] <arti> i saw the story but didn't check it out
[06:29:30] <cykros> even assuming it's a 13 year old non-native-english speaker.
[06:29:45] <arti> let's see it do something in japanese
[06:29:46] <cykros> i only did because my roommate got me all worked up over it
[06:29:57] <cykros> lol, let's see it do something in english that's impressive first
[06:29:58] <ciri> I find most impressive though is the first 16k.
[06:29:59] <cykros> it's an alicebot.
[06:30:11] <cykros> like, barely modified, if at all.
[06:30:13] * arti pets ciri
[06:30:23] <juggs> it did technically pass the Turing Test as greater than 30% of the judges were convinced. That was Turing's prediction.
[06:30:27] <cykros> i used to run one on eggdrop
[06:30:47] <arti> 30% wow
[06:30:48] <cykros> juggs: the story is "moron has been found who thought an alicebot was a human. more at 11"
[06:30:58] <juggs> pretty muc yes
[06:31:02] <cykros> yea. 30% of 3 judges.
[06:31:04] <juggs> much*
[06:31:48] <juggs> The Turing Test is not paid a great deal of attention in real AI circles anyway so it's all a load of ~meh~
[06:32:01] <arti> maybe they can get a cool name like MENSA
[06:33:30] <arti> so what's new gents?
[06:33:40] <cykros> well sure, but the turing test would be useful for things like, well, providing really basic tech support
[06:33:49] <arti> "reboot sir."
[06:33:52] <cykros> or, more in the criminal sphere, social engineering scams.
[06:34:05] <arti> "are you sure you want to buy 100 penis pills?"
[06:34:17] <arti> "don't you want the best for your kids?"
[06:34:26] <cykros> but if you talk to this bot for a few sentences you realize that it's not even as intelligent as your average porn site popup "hey sexy, looking to have a good time tonight in YOUR HOMETOWN"
[06:34:49] <arti> i'd have those porn site things fed back into an rss thing in my room and laugh my ass off
[06:34:56] <cykros> like, sure, turing test != we have sentient AI, but it'd still be something
[06:35:01] <mrcoolbp> omg that bot is not good at all
[06:35:05] <cykros> this story is unconvincing at best even for reaching THAT
[06:35:25] <cykros> yea, i did get it to try to convince me that i'm a computer though
[06:35:32] <cykros> so i give it 50% extra credit xkcd points.
[06:35:39] <mrcoolbp> nice
[06:35:49] <mrcoolbp> it was antagonizing me from the start
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[06:35:58] <arti> wb konomi
[06:36:07] <mrcoolbp> it avoided every question I asked it
[06:36:23] <cykros> it repeatedly asked me where i was from despite my having a conversation with it about where i was from, and took a lot of coaxing to even acknowledge that boston is a place.
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[06:36:28] <arti> what i'd do is have the answers fed back to other users
[06:36:36] <arti> "are you a bot?" you: "no, you're a bot!"
[06:36:39] <arti> other person etc.
[06:36:48] <mrcoolbp> cykros: where in Boston?
[06:37:04] * mrcoolbp is in metro area
[06:37:06] <cykros> heh, it just dodged the question of "i'm from boston. do you know where that is?"
[06:37:12] <arti> i wonder how much space you'd need to store stuff like that
[06:37:18] <arti> wikipedia sized?
[06:37:38] <mrcoolbp> cykros: NCommander is currently floating around boston, 5000 points if you spot him = )
[06:37:40] <cykros> mrcoolbp: well, i'm not terribly in the habit of giving precise location out over irc, you understand. but i am outside the city proper in one of the nearby suburbs
[06:37:56] * mrcoolbp met him in meatspace on friday in one of the suburbs
[06:37:58] <arti> youre out of milk cykros
[06:38:03] <cykros> heh, if you play ingress, i'm sure you'll run into me though :-P
[06:38:12] <arti> you mean battery drain the game?
[06:38:30] <cykros> lol, i have a powerbank, they're not terribly expensive.
[06:38:35] * mrcoolbp has never played ingress
[06:38:37] <cykros> and my dog loves it
[06:38:52] <cykros> it's also how i met randall munroe
[06:38:57] <mrcoolbp> whoa
[06:38:59] <mrcoolbp> cool
[06:39:03] <cykros> (btw, boston area ingress players, he's "Player".)
[06:39:20] <cykros> yea, we talked for a moment, then he ran off to watch an iridium flare.
[06:39:22] <arti> wonder what they do with all the data
[06:39:23] * mrcoolbp was thinking about asking Randall if he'd help with a soylent graphic
[06:39:36] <mrcoolbp> cykros: was he cool?
[06:40:04] <cykros> mrcoolbp: i mean, i'm an enemy agent and all that, but yea, he was nice enough. definitely the kind of awkwardish nerd you'd expect, but not a dick or anything
[06:40:26] <cykros> and i mean, i came up to him while preventing him from blasting some portals and going "hey man, i like your webcomic"
[06:40:33] <cykros> so idk, i wouldn't expect too much there.
[06:40:55] <mrcoolbp> lol
[06:41:17] <cykros> ingress: foursquare with space noises.
[06:41:27] <mrcoolbp> cykros: if we have a public meetup, would you come? NCommander has been floating that idea around, we seem to have a lot of people in this area
[06:41:44] <cykros> yea, i'd consider it. i work weekends though generally, as i work in a restaurant
[06:41:50] <mrcoolbp> me too
[06:42:11] * mrcoolbp works in Natick
[06:43:02] <cykros> i hope ncommander heeds my advice about never doing more than 24.5 mph in amherst, nh
[06:43:23] <arti> small town police?
[06:43:23] <cykros> my gf's mom got put in cuffs up there. they're rabid about their speeding tickets.
[06:43:24] <mrcoolbp> I doubt he'll make it that far west
[06:43:30] <arti> man that sucks
[06:43:45] <cykros> yea, all that live free or die is great and all, but they have to fund the budget somehow.
[06:43:48] <arti> guess that's a perk to living somewhere where real crime occurs :P
[06:43:56] <mrcoolbp> arti: yup
[06:44:00] <cykros> speeding tickets and underage tobacco/alcohol is the big moneymaker.
[06:44:06] <arti> cykros, i guess carry a IRS business card
[06:44:10] <arti> an*
[06:44:12] <mrcoolbp> cykros: PM?
[06:44:14] <arti> and ask for one of theirs, heh
[06:44:18] <cykros> sure mrcoolbp
[07:12:40] <mrcoolbp> so my volunteer post has garned some interest
[07:12:47] * cykros steps out to water the dog
[07:12:59] <mrcoolbp> not as much as I was hoping, but I got a few responses
[07:13:01] <cykros> volunteer post?
[07:13:25] <mrcoolbp> http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:26] <monopoly> Title: SoylentNews | Invitation to Volunteer for SoylentNews
[07:15:16] <cykros> ahh, cool
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[07:24:14] <cykros> later mrcoolbp
[07:24:24] <mrcoolbp> later cykros
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[08:01:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Automated System Lets Trucks Convoy as One - http://sylnt.us - navitron-autodrive-xl
[08:01:13] <ciri> Hides the half eaten cookie and puts on the voicemail system we don't have the same subject, but now when the relief convoy showed up in user preferences.
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[08:54:34] <arti> evening sub
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[09:36:44] <crutchy> coffee++
[09:36:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 216
[09:37:07] <chromas> karma++
[09:37:07] <Bender> karma - karma: 12
[09:37:17] <juggs> good idea
[09:37:55] <crutchy> karma--
[09:37:55] <Bender> karma - karma: 11
[09:37:58] <crutchy> hehe
[09:38:23] <chromas> this karma's special
[09:38:28] <chromas> it goes up to eleven
[09:38:59] <crutchy> except for poutine that might be the only negative karma i've done
[09:40:26] <crutchy> poutine downing was peer pressure :-P
[09:40:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Stock Moves Correlated with CEOs Using Private Jets to Go on Vacation - http://sylnt.us - better-off-without-them
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[09:46:56] <swiss> sr20det++
[09:46:56] <Bender> karma - sr20det: 14
[09:47:21] <crutchy> ?
[09:48:03] <crutchy> ~time murica
[09:48:04] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Tuesday, 10 June 2014, 07:48:01 am
[09:48:05] <exec> [Google] Find out current local time in Spain Murcia. Get Murcia's weather and area codes, time zone and DST. Explore Murcia's sunrise and sunset, moonrise and ...
[09:48:16] <crutchy> ~time chicago
[09:48:18] <exec> [Google] 2:48am Tuesday (CDT) - Time in Chicago, IL, USA
[09:50:10] <juggs> don't start swiss :P
[09:53:59] <swiss> lolol
[09:54:21] <swiss> just ordered my dad raising arizona on blu ray and DVD for father's day
[09:54:25] <swiss> i think it's a good gify
[09:54:27] <swiss> gift*
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[10:05:43] <arti> :)
[10:06:00] <arti> you could always spoof him with "worlds best grandad"
[10:06:26] <crutchy> ew
[10:06:40] <arti> sorry, it's the meat
[10:06:43] * arti fans
[10:36:18] <crutchy> :)++
[10:36:22] <crutchy> :++
[10:36:35] <crutchy> $i++
[10:37:58] <juggs> bored crutchy ?
[10:38:49] <crutchy> if i wasn't so stuffed after work i'd be coding
[10:42:37] <juggs> it's good to chill
[10:45:16] <crutchy> did u see marty's idea for regurgitator?
[10:45:46] <juggs> which one?
[10:46:22] <crutchy> it would be nice if you could get together with Juggs and have his Regurgitator
[10:46:22] <crutchy> output not just the raw RSS feed link, but also snag the title, AND follow past
[10:46:22] <crutchy> the feed-redirect-crap to get the REAL URL
[10:46:24] <juggs> He had one about using monopoly like thing to grab the page's title and another about following redirections
[10:46:34] <crutchy> yeah
[10:46:44] <crutchy> or something
[10:47:24] <crutchy> not sure which would be easier
[10:47:52] <crutchy> i'm slowly working on a feeds script for exec, but might take me a few days
[10:49:08] <juggs> my coding-fu is not great - Regurgitator is just eggdrop + rss-synd - I could probably hack his ideas together eventually though :D
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[11:04:43] <juggs> hmm
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[11:09:39] <SoyCow7737> moo
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[11:14:41] <SoyCow7737> moo
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[11:20:37] <BlackSoylent> hi
[11:20:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Instagram to Introduce Advertising - http://sylnt.us - someone-has-to-pay
[11:23:12] <juggs> poosticks!! I just made a lethal rm -rf foobar
[11:23:29] * juggs stomps off to bang head on wall
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[11:41:39] <KonomiNetbook> http://www.thestar.com
[11:41:45] <monopoly> Title: Facebook to add advertising to Instagram in Canada | Toronto Star
[11:41:55] <KonomiNetbook> am I the only one who finds that picture of zuck' disturbing as hell?
[11:42:21] <KonomiNetbook> "zuck's got the lube he's comin for your privacy" came to mind x.x
[11:42:28] <bryan> lol
[11:42:52] <juggs> is that a wax work ?
[11:43:25] <KonomiNetbook> idk but it creeps me out
[11:46:03] <crutchy> hi KonomiNetbook :-)
[11:46:12] <KonomiNetbook> hi ;p
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[12:44:32] <chromas> silence--
[12:44:32] <Bender> karma - silence: -1
[12:44:45] <juggs> is golden :)
[12:45:39] <crutchy> good the hear juggs :-)
[12:45:56] <chromas> Too much gold in here to read
[12:49:18] <chromas> Can't load web pages but monopoly still can. Netpunch
[12:51:47] * chromas buttpunches router
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[13:04:26] <monopoly> Connection failure: Error during SSL handshake: error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol
[13:05:19] <crutchy> monopoly: s/rou/pou/
[13:05:19] <SedBot> <crutchy> <monopoly> Connection failure: Error during SSL handshake: error:140770FC:SSL poutines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol
[13:05:36] <monopoly> That could be it
[13:06:07] * monopoly checks for gravy
[13:09:03] <crutchy> SedBot: s/failure/brain fart/
[13:09:03] <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <crutchy> <monopoly> Connection brain fart: Error during SSL handshake: error:140770FC:SSL poutines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol
[13:09:55] <monopoly> Must be time to install windows
[13:10:01] <crutchy> 3.1
[13:10:52] <crutchy> with free upgrade to ms-dos
[13:11:40] <crutchy> SedBot: s/<.>//
[13:11:53] <crutchy> SedBot: s/\<.\>//
[13:12:21] <crutchy> SedBot: s/<%wtf%>//
[13:12:22] <ciri> ${$_[0]} =~ S[([^\n\r\t$args.
[13:12:34] <monopoly> ciri: s/.*/Linux ate my cat and killed my pa; Windows never hurt anybody/
[13:12:34] <SedBot> <monopoly> <ciri> Linux ate my cat and killed my pa; Windows never hurt anybody
[13:13:25] <crutchy> ciri: s/arg/aaarrrrrrgh/
[13:13:25] <SedBot> <crutchy> <ciri> ${$_[0]} =~ S[([^\n\r\t$aaarrrrrrghs.
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[13:21:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - ISP Urges Citizens to Pressure Government against "Foreign Interests" - http://sylnt.us - That's-an-ISP
[13:22:14] <crutchy> ~restart
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[13:23:01] <crutchy> ~get-source irc.php
[13:23:29] <crutchy> ~get-source scripts/say.php
[13:23:38] <juggs> o.O
[13:23:55] <crutchy> :-D
[13:23:58] <crutchy> so far so good
[13:24:13] <juggs> I'm not asking
[13:24:23] <crutchy> lol
[13:24:28] <chromas> Is it ejecting source to the terminal?
[13:26:14] <crutchy> yup :-)
[13:26:30] <crutchy> straight from its own github source
[13:26:59] <chromas> ~get-source source.php
[13:27:54] <crutchy> authentication failure: "chromas" attempted to run "~get-source" but is not in admin account list
[13:28:13] <chromas> ~get-source horsesmouth.php
[13:28:49] * chromas wills itself 2b in the admin array
[13:28:50] <ciri> Cubancigar11, the problem solves itself with a negative sign.
[13:29:13] <chromas> ^ true
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[13:31:36] <crutchy> hi Bytram|away
[13:32:06] <Bytram|away> crisp: hi there!
[13:32:12] <Bytram|away> crutchy: hi there.
[13:32:17] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[13:32:47] <Bytram> crutchy: man, I barely connect as I'm trying to do something and you're *right* *there* with a greeting! I'm impressed!
[13:32:59] <crutchy> i have no life
[13:33:14] <crutchy> but i'm having fun in code land :-P
[13:33:19] <Bytram> I nominate you as the [un]official greeter!
[13:33:37] <crutchy> i'm unreliable
[13:33:38] <Bytram> gad you're having fun!
[13:34:12] <crutchy> but i'm working on improving the reliability of my assistant
[13:34:17] <Bytram> cool!
[13:34:46] <Bytram> I had a nice chat on IRC with juggs; he might be contacting you about joining forces on improving the #rss-bot channel
[13:34:51] <crutchy> hopefully will move exec to a more permanent home on my webserver tonight
[13:34:56] <crutchy> ah
[13:35:02] <crutchy> yeah he was here before
[13:35:50] <Bytram> he mentioned, but I'v not had a moment yet to check, that he'd add a journal entry on SoylentNews.org for additional RSS feed suggestions.
[13:35:59] <Bytram> i'm on my way to look, right now.
[13:36:55] <Bytram> hmm, looks like it would be this link: http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:56] <monopoly> Title: SoylentNews Comments | IRC RSS Regurgitator Bot - Suggestions & Feed Additions
[13:37:05] <Bytram> !woop
[13:37:05] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[13:37:10] <Bytram> !uid
[13:37:10] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4439, owned by MuadDib
[13:37:31] <Bytram> looks like someone wanted dibs on the Muad
[13:37:36] <Bytram> :)
[13:52:06] <TheMightyBuzzard|Book> coffee++
[13:52:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 217
[13:53:06] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:53:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 218
[13:53:13] <crutchy> !karma bacon
[13:53:13] <Bender> karma of bacon is 232
[13:53:24] <crutchy> hoohoo catching up
[13:53:54] <crutchy> bacon seems to have gone out of err... date
[13:54:20] <crutchy> haven't seen any bacon++ lately
[13:57:51] <crutchy> ~restart
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[13:58:52] <crutchy> ~get-source irc.php
[13:58:55] <exec> successfully downloaded "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crutchy-/test/master/irc.php" to "/nas/server/git/testirc.php_test"
[13:58:56] <monopoly> Filetype: PHP script, ASCII text (1172 lines, 31 KiB)
[13:59:12] <crutchy> hmm. missing a /
[14:01:17] <crutchy> ~restart
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[14:01:51] <crutchy> ~get-source irc.php
[14:01:54] <exec> successfully downloaded "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crutchy-/test/master/irc.php" to "/nas/server/git/test/irc.php_test"
[14:03:04] <crutchy> hmm there's a filesize discrepancy :-/
[14:05:41] * Bytram offers crutchy a few extra bytes to help pad things out. ;)
[14:15:57] <crutchy> with these changes hopefully i'll be able to make changes to the bot on my laptop, push the changes to github and then do ~get-source and ~restart to implement the changes in the bot running on my webserver
[14:16:45] <Bytram> crutchy: good for you! sounds wonderful!
[14:16:54] * Bytram needs to get more coffee
[14:17:11] <crutchy> will be good if it works
[14:17:12] <crutchy> :-P
[14:19:38] <crutchy> ~php in_array
[14:19:39] <exec> bool in_array( mixed $needle , array $haystack [, bool $strict = FALSE] )
[14:22:23] <crutchy> ~restart
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[14:33:02] <crutchy> ~del-source irc.php_test
[14:33:14] <exec> file "/nas/server/git/test/irc.php_test" successfully deleted
[14:33:48] <crutchy> ~del-source irc.php
[14:33:50] <exec> file "irc.php" is protected and cannot be deleted
[14:44:46] <crutchy> ~reload
[14:44:48] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file
[14:44:53] <crutchy> ~help ~
[14:50:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Could Decide an Election Without Anyone Ever Finding Out - http://sylnt.us - Get-out-the-Vote
[14:52:08] <weeds> Good Morning
[14:52:24] <Bytram> hey gang! time to get ready for the day job... have fun!
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[14:54:19] <crutchy> hi weeds
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[14:56:36] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[14:56:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 219
[14:56:37] <crutchy> g'day mechanicjay
[14:56:38] <ciri> Liz cheney lied and her campaign died or: dick dynasty no help for the day job... Have fun reading aqu4's highlights?
[14:56:42] <mechanicjay> howdy
[14:56:44] <crutchy> hi Blackmoore
[14:56:48] <Blackmoore> mornin
[14:56:52] <crutchy> ~time chicago
[14:56:53] <exec> [Google] 7:56am Tuesday (CDT) - Time in Chicago, IL, USA
[14:57:01] <crutchy> ahh wake up time :-D
[14:57:36] <mechanicjay> I like the time bot
[14:58:12] <crutchy> thanks :-)
[14:58:34] <mechanicjay> I assume it only takes major cities as arguments?
[14:58:34] <crutchy> there's a few handy bots lurking
[14:58:42] <crutchy> ~time uranus
[14:58:43] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Tuesday, 10 June 2014, 12:58:42 pm
[14:58:44] <exec> [Google] Uranus presented a featureless disc to Voyager 2 in 1986. ...... Select "Ephemeris Type: Orbital Elements", "Time Span: 2000-01-01 12:00 to 2000-01-02".
[14:58:48] <crutchy> hmm
[14:58:56] <crutchy> ~time mt everest
[14:58:58] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Tuesday, 10 June 2014, 12:58:56 pm
[14:58:59] <exec> [Google] What time is it in Mount Everest, Sagarmatha, Nepal?. Check time zones and plan calls with our world time tools.
[14:59:00] <mechanicjay> Ha!
[14:59:12] <crutchy> ~time central park
[14:59:14] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Tuesday, 10 June 2014, 12:59:12 pm
[14:59:15] <exec> [Google] Where is Central Park located? When is the Park open? How big is Central Park? Are pets allowed in the Park? Where can I purchase food and drinks?
[14:59:17] <mechanicjay> ~time Drew University
[14:59:19] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Tuesday, 10 June 2014, 12:59:17 pm
[14:59:20] <exec> [Google] Campus housing is available to full-time students on a space available basis. ... (from all colleges and universities you have attended); Drew University Dean of ...
[14:59:21] <Blackmoore> ~time hell
[14:59:23] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Tuesday, 10 June 2014, 12:59:21 pm
[14:59:23] <exec> [Google] 3 May 2011 ... Matthew Botsford is seen here with his wife. Botsford says he went to hell while in a coma for 27 days. He recounts his experience in the new ...
[14:59:31] <crutchy> ~time empire state building
[14:59:33] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Tuesday, 10 June 2014, 12:59:31 pm
[14:59:34] <exec> [Google] 23 Apr 2014 ... Empire State Building visitor tips: Hours, prices,directions and transit ... Our average wait time currently ranges from 15-30 minutes to the 86th ...
[14:59:37] <crutchy> dammit
[14:59:42] <crutchy> stupid google
[14:59:49] <mechanicjay> ~time madison
[14:59:50] <crutchy> ~time america
[14:59:51] <exec> [Google] 7:59am Tuesday (CDT) - Time in Madison, WI, USA
[14:59:52] <exec> [Google] 8:59am Tuesday (EDT) - Time in Washington, DC, USA
[15:00:00] <mechanicjay> ~time madison, NJ
[15:00:02] <exec> [Google] 9:00am Tuesday (EDT) - Time in Madison, NJ, USA
[15:00:05] <mechanicjay> weeee!
[15:00:08] <crutchy> ~time nwe yrok
[15:00:09] <exec> [Google] 9:00am Tuesday (EDT) - Time in New York, NY, USA
[15:00:49] <crutchy> ~time back to the future
[15:00:50] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Tuesday, 10 June 2014, 01:00:48 pm
[15:01:12] <mechanicjay> 9:00 am and a down server alert. Bad way to start the day...
[15:01:22] <crutchy> sounds bad
[15:01:35] <crutchy> is it plutonium?
[15:01:49] <crutchy> or unobtainium?
[15:01:54] <crutchy> i never remember the names
[15:02:00] <mechanicjay> one of mine at the RL job
[15:02:05] <crutchy> ah
[15:02:10] <crutchy> even worse
[15:02:18] <mechanicjay> I do think the next one should be unobtanium
[15:02:38] <crutchy> or ncommandium
[15:02:42] <mechanicjay> it breaks the naming convention, so what.
[15:02:47] <mechanicjay> :)
[15:03:45] <crutchy> prolly should name the backup holyshitium
[15:05:00] <crutchy> or shithitthefanium
[15:09:56] <crutchy> ~restart
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[15:11:21] <crutchy> ~get-source irc.php
[15:11:24] <exec> successfully downloaded "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crutchy-/test/master/irc.php" to "/nas/server/git/test/irc.php_test"
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[15:12:05] <crutchy> g'day woods
[15:12:17] <Woods> Hey Crutchy
[15:12:21] <Blackmoore> i still like the idea of Lithium as a server name
[15:12:34] <Blackmoore> but it ought to be running on old hardware
[15:14:16] <crutchy> uranium would make interesting crisis dialog... "oh shit uranium is nuked!"
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[15:14:42] <crutchy> "oxygen is choking" :-P
[15:15:04] <crutchy> oh wait we already have an oxygen, no?
[15:18:07] <Blackmoore> Nitrogen is running flat.
[15:18:24] <Blackmoore> Helium got away from us
[15:20:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> (if they're in the same rack) Hydrogen just collapsed into Helium!
[15:21:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> you should always have an understood naming scheme for machines if you've got more than a handful
[15:21:58] <crutchy> slash has crashed carbon and oxygen together and now its poisoning everything else
[15:22:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> My personal machines are named after the moons of Jupiter
[15:22:45] <crutchy> i have a nas drive named myblowbot
[15:22:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> So far I've got ganymede, io, callisto, europa, and himalia
[15:23:01] <Blackmoore> nice
[15:23:54] <TheMightyBuzzard|Book> coffee++
[15:23:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 220
[15:24:08] <crutchy> g'day TheMightyBuzzard|Book
[15:24:37] <TheMightyBuzzard|Book> mornin mornin
[15:24:38] <crutchy> coffee++
[15:24:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 221
[15:24:39] <ciri> The temp reading in my coffee mug.
[15:24:50] <crutchy> ciri++
[15:24:50] <Bender> karma - ciri: 2
[15:25:15] * crutchy hands ciri a new crayon and wipes the slobber off the window
[15:27:13] <Woods> AndyTheAbsurd: I named my new computer I just built "Gigaplease"
[15:27:19] <crutchy> ~q
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[15:29:05] <Blackmoore> mornin
[15:29:36] <Blackmoore> I had one named George... he was built with a bit of help from my freinds..
[15:29:56] <Woods> Blackmoore: How curious.
[15:30:13] <Blackmoore> :P
[15:31:30] <Blackmoore> Frank was a beast cobbled together from a lot of systems. he had a number of itterations.
[15:34:31] <Blackmoore> yes. the startup noise was gene wilder from Young frankenstein.
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[15:57:23] <crutchy> ~time melbourne
[15:57:24] <exec> [Google] 11:57pm Tuesday (EST) - Time in Melbourne VIC, Australia
[15:57:42] <crutchy> woohoo! exec now running on webserver
[15:57:45] <TheMightyBuzzard|Book> bleh, i swear i will get this if it kills me
[15:59:33] <crutchy> what's up?
[16:00:35] <TheMightyBuzzard|Book> still fighting with unicode again.
[16:00:37] <crutchy> ~get-source php.irc
[16:00:39] <exec> successfully downloaded "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crutchy-/test/master/php.irc" to "/var/include/vhosts/irciv.us.to/php.irc"
[16:00:50] <crutchy> ~restart
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[16:00:53] <crutchy> this is the test
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[16:01:12] <crutchy> ~time melbourne
[16:01:18] <exec> [Google] 12:01am Wednesday (EST) - Time in Melbourne VIC, Australia
[16:01:23] <crutchy> :-D
[16:01:47] <crutchy> fkin wicked!
[16:07:12] <crutchy> ŮиÏЭØĐĚ eh?
[16:07:38] <crutchy> what part of slashcode?
[16:08:35] <Blackmoore> ~time memphis
[16:08:36] <exec> [Google] 9:08am Tuesday (CDT) - Time in Memphis, TN, USA
[16:08:59] <TheMightyBuzzard|Book> crutchy, all of it
[16:08:59] <Blackmoore> ~weather key west
[16:08:59] <crutchy> ~join #civ
[16:09:04] <crutchy> ah
[16:09:29] <TheMightyBuzzard|Book> testing on comments in the vm for the moment.
[16:09:37] <crutchy> ~weather melbourne
[16:09:46] <crutchy> hmm
[16:10:20] <crutchy> ~weather-add crutchy melbourne
[16:12:13] <crutchy> forgot to transfer the weather.codes file
[16:14:26] <crutchy> hmm forgot to transfer a few data files :-/
[16:18:42] <TheMightyBuzzard|Book> hate punctuation typos
[16:21:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Video: Researchers Try to Develop 3D Printing of Organs and Body Parts - http://sylnt.us - We-have-the-technology
[16:22:47] <weeds> what happened to our airballoons?
[16:26:58] <crutchy> ~weather melbourne
[16:27:01] <exec> Weather for Melbourne Regional Office, VIC, Australia at 2014-06-10 11:00:00 (UTC) ~ 14.4 hrs ago:
[16:27:02] <exec> temperature = 53.4°F (11.9°C) dewpoint = 48.7°F (9.3°C)
[16:27:02] <exec> barometric pressure = 1027.5 mb ~ change of 0 mb over past 3 hrs relative humdity = 84%
[16:27:02] <exec> wind speed = (no data) wind direction = 0°
[16:27:06] <crutchy> :-)
[16:27:19] <crutchy> back up and running Blackmoore
[16:31:57] <Blackmoore> :)
[16:32:05] <Blackmoore> `weather key west
[16:32:13] <Blackmoore> ~weather key west
[16:32:16] <exec> Weather for Key West, FL US at 2014-06-10 13:29:00 (UTC) ~ 12 hrs ago:
[16:32:17] <exec> temperature = 83°F (28.3°C) dewpoint = 76.9°F (24.9°C)
[16:32:18] <exec> barometric pressure = 1017.5 mb ~ change of 0.1 mb over past 0.3 hrs relative humdity = 82%
[16:32:18] <exec> wind speed = 0 mph (0 km/h) wind direction = 163°
[16:33:16] <Blackmoore> airballoons?
[16:34:50] <crutchy> we have airballons?
[16:35:12] <Woods> Frojack++
[16:35:12] <Bender> karma - frojack: 1
[16:35:30] <crutchy> haha
[16:35:33] <crutchy> froj++
[16:35:33] <Bender> karma - froj: 1
[16:35:40] <Woods> Frojack is my new favorite submitter (Sorry everyone else)
[16:37:46] <crutchy> Woods: check out #rss-bot
[16:38:15] <Woods> Hehehe, I jumped in there literally 2 seconds before you said that.
[16:38:49] <crutchy> haha
[16:39:37] <Woods> I have not had time recently to submit anything, but the well is drying up pretty bad
[16:44:10] <SirFinkus> jesus, another disk just failed, that's 2 in the past month
[16:44:13] <SirFinkus> annoying
[16:44:24] <SirFinkus> just glad they didn't happen at the same time
[16:44:55] <Woods> SirFinkus: Bad batch?
[16:45:21] <SirFinkus> naw, one was like a year old, this one 3-4
[16:45:29] <SirFinkus> just bad luck
[16:46:08] <Woods> Read: Gremlins. Got it.
[16:46:24] <crutchy> not part of a raid?
[16:46:32] <SirFinkus> naw
[16:46:43] <crutchy> hmm usually the redundant disks are the most reliable eh :-P
[16:46:52] <SirFinkus> one was an external, other was an internal one on my desktop
[16:47:13] <crutchy> i usually lose OS disks
[16:47:14] <ciri> Wishes you the best spell checker for then/than lose/loose and it was like "hey buddy, you want to use wine strictly for mirc.
[16:47:24] <crutchy> might go solid state soon methinks
[16:47:33] <SirFinkus> the desktop one was the backup for the external, which failed a few weeks ago
[16:47:51] <SirFinkus> got new external, restored backups, now the desktop is dead
[16:48:06] * SirFinkus considers having 2 backups now
[16:48:20] <Woods> SirFinkus: Perfect timing, that is awesome.
[16:48:34] <SirFinkus> still a bit terrifying
[16:48:53] <SirFinkus> watch, I'll do 2 backups and my house will burn down
[16:49:03] <Woods> Probably
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[16:53:54] juggs|afk is now known as juggs
[16:54:03] <crutchy> hi juggs
[16:54:09] <crutchy> hi LaminatorX
[16:54:28] <juggs> hey crutchy
[16:54:41] <crutchy> hi SirFinkus :-P
[16:54:48] <crutchy> (sorry forgot you beefore)
[16:54:53] <SirFinkus> lol
[16:54:58] <SirFinkus> well, they just joined
[16:55:48] <crutchy> the join messages do stand out in xchat
[16:56:11] <juggs> indeed so - I always disable them :)
[16:56:24] <juggs> and did I just join? I thought I just changed nicks
[16:57:48] <LaminatorX> Hi, crutchy.
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[17:07:54] <crutchy> coffee++
[17:07:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 222
[17:10:51] <crutchy> ping TheMightyBuzzard|Book
[17:10:57] <TheMightyBuzzard|Book> pong
[17:11:07] <TheMightyBuzzard|Book> sup?
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[17:11:34] <crutchy> is there a cookie clear in the home page link on the logo?
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[17:11:44] <crutchy> or something
[17:12:16] <crutchy> whenever i click the logo to get to the home page it logs me out, but then if i hit refresh i get logged back in again
[17:12:22] <crutchy> bit weird
[17:12:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> shouldn't be but there's known issues with the login code cookie handling
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[17:12:35] <crutchy> ah. might be that then
[17:12:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> think NCommander was working on that yesterday but I doubt it's hit live yet.
[17:13:09] <crutchy> no worries. thanks matey
[17:13:16] <crutchy> ~time melbourne
[17:13:18] <exec> [Google] 1:13am Wednesday (EST) - Time in Melbourne VIC, Australia
[17:13:27] <NCommander> crutchy, if you are using HTTPS, its seriously flakely
[17:13:32] <crutchy> hmm better get some shuteye before work
[17:13:35] <crutchy> oh
[17:13:49] <crutchy> think i'm just on http
[17:14:30] * crutchy still lives in the stone age
[17:14:41] <crutchy> night #soylent
[17:15:42] <Blackmoore> night crutchy
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[17:53:45] <DrMag> /msg NickServ pieta014 David.Olson.14@gmail.com
[17:54:02] <DrMag> Well, that doesn't work the way I meant.
[17:54:47] <mrcoolbp> lol
[17:55:03] <mrcoolbp> DrMag: I suggest a new password
[17:55:12] <mrcoolbp> also I suggest doing that in the main server windo
[17:55:15] <mrcoolbp> window*
[17:55:21] <DrMag> Yep-- on both counts.
[17:55:21] <Bender> karma - yep: -1
[17:55:38] <DrMag> I'm trying out a new client, and forgot which window I was in.
[17:55:41] <DrMag> Apologies, everyone.
[17:55:45] <mrcoolbp> no problem
[17:56:01] <mrcoolbp> I may email you some penis enlargement things though just to teach ya a lesson - )
[17:56:24] <DrMag> *shrug* If you do, it may come back to bite you.
[17:56:31] * mrcoolbp reconsiders
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[18:00:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sony to Stop Selling Playstation Portable - http://sylnt.us - but-that-was-my-favorite-kind-of-playstation
[18:16:23] <Blackmoore> ~list
[18:16:24] <exec> ~list ~list-auth ~lock ~unlock
[18:16:24] <exec> rofl ~ ~cowsay ~moo ~fortune ~php ~con/con ~join ~part ~isup ~time ~rainbow ~translate ~translate-sl ~define ~define-add ~define-count ~define-sources ~weather ~weather-add ~help ~help-script ~civ ~civ-save ~civ-todo ~mackey
[18:18:51] <LaminatorX> ~weather
[18:18:52] <exec> IRC WEATHER INFORMATION
[18:18:52] <exec> usage: "~weather location" (visit http://wiki.soylentnews.org for more info)
[18:18:53] <exec> data courtesy of the APRS Citizen Weather Observer Program (CWOP) @ http://weather.gladstonefamily.net
[18:18:53] <exec> by crutchy: https://github.com
[18:19:02] <LaminatorX> ~weather Mordor
[18:19:06] <exec> Weather for Frisco, TX US at 2014-06-10 14:47:00 (UTC) ~ 12.5 hrs ago:
[18:19:06] <exec> temperature = 71°F (21.7°C) dewpoint = 60.7°F (15.9°C)
[18:19:07] <exec> barometric pressure = 1009.5 mb ~ change of 0.1 mb over past 0.3 hrs relative humdity = 69%
[18:19:07] <exec> wind speed = 0 mph (0 km/h) wind direction = 66°
[18:19:17] <DrMag> lol-- that's too funny.
[18:19:17] <Bender> karma - lol: -1
[18:19:26] <DrMag> Now we know where Sauron lives.
[18:19:32] <LaminatorX> Hah. One does not simply walk into Frisco, TX.
[18:20:16] <DrMag> Apparently Bender doesn't like certain words. =)
[18:21:10] <juggs> lol++
[18:21:10] <Bender> karma - lol: 0
[18:22:20] <Woods> yep++
[18:22:20] <Bender> karma - yep: 0
[18:22:25] <Woods> Might as well even everything out.
[18:22:46] <Woods> DrMag, you will have to adjust your speech methods.
[18:23:03] <juggs> bacon++
[18:23:03] <Bender> karma - bacon: 233
[18:23:55] <DrMag> It seems that way. =)
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[18:32:44] <Blackmoore> ~moo
[18:32:45] <exec> (__)
[18:32:46] <ciri> Rofl ~ ~cowsay ~moo ~fortune ~php ~con/con ~join #civ.
[18:32:46] <exec> (oo)
[18:32:46] <exec> /------\/
[18:32:47] <exec> / | ||
[18:32:48] <exec> * /\---/\
[18:32:49] <exec> ~~ ~~
[18:32:50] <exec> ...."Have you mooed today?"...
[18:33:20] <Blackmoore> and ciri is still drunk
[18:35:52] <cykros> that's okay, he's no less turing test compliant than eugene goostman.
[18:36:32] * mrcoolbp was so dissapointed by E.G.
[18:36:55] <cykros> i would like to see the code they used, because i really think it was a very minimally configured alicebot.
[18:37:04] <cykros> i also would like to meet the judge that thought it was a person
[18:37:21] <mrcoolbp> yeah srlsly
[18:37:21] <cykros> because seeing the bot was nothing even remotely novel. but that person, my god, that'd be something to experience.
[18:37:36] <cykros> i imagine they probably work in politics.
[18:37:43] <mrcoolbp> hah
[18:37:51] <Blackmoore> i suspect that the judge would fail the turning test.
[18:38:12] <cykros> was that a typo? or am i missing a great layer to a joke here?
[18:38:34] <cykros> s/turning/turing/ ?
[18:40:42] <Blackmoore> typo
[18:41:12] <Blackmoore> perhaps if we put the judge on a large turntable..
[18:41:28] <mrcoolbp> that might exascerbate the issue
[18:41:37] <DrMag> That probably was the test...
[18:41:43] <DrMag> At first, every judge knew it was a bot.
[18:41:49] <DrMag> Then they spun them all around a few dozen times.
[18:41:53] <mrcoolbp> hah
[18:41:58] <DrMag> That way 33% of them changed their minds.
[18:44:08] <Blackmoore> well, if you know it is a bot you aren't going to judge it fairly.
[18:44:32] <DrMag> Unless you're really dizzy.
[18:44:42] <Blackmoore> but telling the judge that it's a youg boy with a translation problem..
[18:45:03] <Blackmoore> that isn't right either
[18:45:03] <cykros> i understand confirmation bias, but it really took no more than 3 sentences with it where i avoided being too mean for it to pretty obviously show itself as a bot
[18:45:09] <cykros> i've seen more convincing bots on yahoo chat
[18:45:12] <cykros> YEARS ago.
[18:46:27] <cykros> it asked where i was from, so I said "boston, do you know where that is?" and the response had absolutely nothing to do with location or boston whatsoever.
[18:46:35] <cykros> and then it patently denied ignoring my question.
[18:46:42] <cykros> acting offended that i suggested it.
[18:46:55] * cykros shrugs
[18:47:01] <cykros> i hope one day to be impressed. this isn't that day.
[18:47:42] <mrcoolbp> ^^
[18:52:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, i figured out how i CAN do unicode in slash, now i have to figure out how i SHOULD
[18:53:44] <Blackmoore> I've been the bastard who breaks the bot by stringing nonsense together.
[18:54:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> good on ya
[18:54:24] <Blackmoore> a chatbot will assume that it is a real sentence and try to respond
[18:55:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> believe i need nicotine and very soon some breakfast.
[18:55:59] <Blackmoore> bacon++
[18:55:59] <Bender> karma - bacon: 234
[18:59:52] * cykros hits the RSS aggregator to submit some stories.
[19:02:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> I haven't gotten anything good out of mine in a couple of days :(
[19:03:15] <cykros> i've been terrible about staying up with mine lately
[19:03:23] <cykros> i always have this 2-3 day backlog to get through
[19:03:41] <cykros> work and home life have a way of pushing RSS/ATOM to the back burner.
[19:03:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> same here
[19:06:12] <cykros> i'm seriously starting to consider removing most of my non-tech news sources. BBC just fills my reader up with such important frontpage headlines as "Thai beauty queen quits over jibe"
[19:06:35] <cykros> though i also just saw Korean Grandmothers Who Sell Sex and my curiosity has been piqued.
[19:06:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> those never even made into mine
[19:06:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> I can't be bothered with that kind of bullshit
[19:06:54] <n1> cykros, the Korea story is quite interesting I thought.
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[19:07:04] <cykros> i try to stay rounded out enough to still see when the important big stuff happens
[19:07:09] <cykros> but the noise is atrocious.
[19:07:25] <cykros> n1: yea, it's one of 400 in my BBC feed to read today.
[19:07:29] <cykros> the rest is garbage.
[19:07:44] <cykros> i go weeks between bothering to open BBC articles
[19:07:54] <n1> I tend to check the BBC News on their own app
[19:08:11] <n1> Maybe inherent bias of being UK based.
[19:08:32] <cykros> idk, i use RSS for news because of how much faster it tends to be. no flashy pictures, videos, slow page loading times, etc.
[19:08:41] <cykros> just text headlines i can navigate with arrow keys
[19:08:51] <cykros> though if you're using it on a tablet/phone that makes sense
[19:09:15] <n1> I use a mix of everything really
[19:10:00] <cykros> i use the bbc as an example, but all of my mainstream news just disappoints regularly.
[19:10:39] <n1> I agree, I check 'mainstream' news every day, they're usually not that great. I do check the worst though...
[19:11:02] <n1> The reason for that is because it's no good being in my own bubble, I have to read and try to understand other pespectives and opinions.
[19:11:17] <n1> Just because I disagree doesn't mean it's not helping for the opinions for millions of others.
[19:11:27] <n1> Or just showcasing what 'normal' people find interesting
[19:11:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> n1: "the worst" being the Daily Fail?
[19:11:40] <n1> could well be, AndyTheAbsurd...
[19:11:53] <cykros> heh, i just don't like having people ask me about some big news thing at work and being like "i didn't hear about that" when it's something that everyone in the hemisphere is talking about.
[19:12:20] <cykros> no tv, no radio...if i can my mainstream news sources, i end up pretty cut off from the world outside of what makes tech news sites
[19:12:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> the old place that I worked, almost all they ever talked about was sports...all I wanted to talk about was science.
[19:12:45] <n1> It was a family member that actually told me about the Russian hacker that made international news...
[19:12:53] <n1> Felt ashamed...
[19:13:03] <cykros> heh, yea, idk how long it took me to hear about snowden
[19:13:10] <cykros> i started noticing nsa in headlines i glossed over
[19:13:24] <cykros> but just figured all they were talking about seemed to be what we all knew the nsa does anyway, right?
[19:13:29] <cykros> then i noticed people seeming surprised
[19:13:30] <ciri> Looks like new information on any of those guys telling you to "is people!".
[19:13:32] <cykros> so i figured i'd check it out.
[19:13:47] <n1> AndyTheAbsurd, i get very confused/blank looks when people ask if i follow sports and i say that i do not.
[19:14:04] <arti> it's almost like we all have different interests
[19:14:12] <cykros> literally following sports can be a great way to find drunkenly lost smartphones.
[19:14:16] <n1> "not even football?" "are you sure you don't?"
[19:14:24] <arti> how about televising some demo party compos
[19:14:54] <n1> I like sports, but i can watch a game or what ever and enjoy it, but i can't be a 'fan' of a team or follow a league seriously.
[19:14:59] <arti> "today on Botnet World, we're going to show you some new techniques..."
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[19:16:04] <n1> i find the anger and emotion that can come as a result of sporting events quite disturbing
[19:16:06] <arti> mmm waffles
[19:16:18] <cykros> when there's a big league dedicated to robot battles, i might start paying more attention to sports.
[19:16:27] <arti> n1, well obviously you didn't light the candles in the right order or else they would've won
[19:16:51] <arti> cykros, what about gladiators? would you watch that?
[19:17:00] <n1> people that think it would damage their masculinity should they cry at the death of a loved one.... will display all sorts of the emotion in regard to their sporting tribe
[19:17:10] <cykros> idk arti, memories of american gladiators comes to mind
[19:17:27] * arti would totally watch a fight to the death
[19:17:29] <cykros> and idk that i could bring myself to watching that without an iv drip of 190 proof ethanol.
[19:17:36] <cykros> oh, to the death
[19:17:38] <n1> not sure if it's my cynical mind
[19:17:39] <cykros> that's different
[19:17:46] <cykros> ideally, gladiators with robots.
[19:17:47] <arti> well, unless they get a thumbs up
[19:17:52] <n1> but i really dont see us being that far away from going back to 'fights to the death'
[19:18:00] <cykros> so that they're jumping around trying to take down mech systems
[19:18:02] <cykros> that would be fun
[19:18:15] <cykros> now, i'm not sure who i'd be okay with being tossed into the ring
[19:18:25] <cykros> i imagine they'd have to be politicians, or IRS agents.
[19:18:25] <arti> n1, it's totally cool when you kill for your country, but no bueno when you do it for yourself
[19:18:33] <cykros> though foreign dictators are fair game too
[19:18:39] <arti> cykros, that'd be sweeet
[19:18:50] <arti> TODAY WE HAVE BATTLE 5 OF THE DEMOCRAT HOUSE
[19:18:55] <DrMag> cykros: I can think of at least 535 people I'd toss in.
[19:19:03] <n1> thats reallt not how it would work though, if it comes to reality
[19:19:06] <n1> really*
[19:19:12] <cykros> DrMag: aww, did you get uid 536 on soylent?
[19:19:14] <arti> it would be done by drone, you're right
[19:19:16] <n1> because the death sports would be the distraction from the government.
[19:19:20] <cykros> lol, and no, i get it, the house of rep.
[19:19:27] <DrMag> =D
[19:19:28] <n1> not as a way of punishing government
[19:20:22] <cykros> yea. more likely, we'd get, idk, drug cartel members. except not so much, because they form a vital part of our clandestine budget.
[19:20:29] <cykros> terrorist suspects probably
[19:20:36] <cykros> and by suspects, i mean brown people who were convenient patsies
[19:20:40] <n1> it depends really
[19:20:45] <n1> you would have to have the 'home team'
[19:20:49] <n1> in that situation
[19:20:56] <n1> because if it's bad guy vs bad guy
[19:21:01] <cykros> hrm, that's true. doing it with robots would just be inhumane.
[19:21:01] <n1> no one feels happy when one bad guy wins
[19:21:16] <DrMag> n1: ever read the book thief?
[19:21:16] <n1> so you need 'TEAM USA' vs the terrorists
[19:21:28] <n1> DrMag, I have not
[19:21:35] <DrMag> There's an imagined scene where a jewish boxer is fighting hitler, and does well.
[19:21:52] <DrMag> Hitler uses that fact to rally the troops, because, "See? They're getting stronger. We have to do something now."
[19:21:53] <arti> n1, everyone not on the team is a terrorist, duh
[19:22:07] <DrMag> People like that can use either side winning to their advantage,
[19:22:22] <arti> we should plan this out more and start a kickstarter
[19:22:23] <n1> indeed, atri - but you need someone to represent the good guys in the death sports.
[19:22:27] <DrMag> and people who use combat to control the masses are, (thanks, Godwin) like that.
[19:22:32] <arti> heh good guys, it's all relative
[19:22:34] <n1> DrMag, very good point.
[19:22:40] <cykros> arti: i think we might need to start our own kickstarter too.
[19:22:42] <cykros> probably on i2p
[19:22:43] <n1> arti, i meant 'good guys'
[19:22:49] <cykros> with like, anoncoins.
[19:22:50] <n1> the people on the side of the organizers of the event
[19:22:59] <arti> guy guys are winners n1, why do you hate winners?!
[19:23:11] <arti> ONE OF US. ONE OF US.
[19:23:15] <cykros> something about planning deathmatches to be crowdfunded seems like it might be a breach of kickstarter's TOS
[19:23:25] <arti> well we'll change the words to 'voted off'
[19:23:40] <n1> heheh
[19:23:58] <cykros> well, all i'm saying is that crowdfunding murder isn't new, it just needs to be done on places not on kickstarter
[19:24:03] <n1> well you leave it up to the audience to decide how the 'voted off' happens
[19:24:09] <arti> so we should come up with a site then
[19:24:11] <cykros> there's that site on the .onion net that crowdfunds political assassinations
[19:24:12] <arti> deathstarter.com
[19:24:34] <DrMag> startkicking.com
[19:24:34] <cykros> ben bernanke i think has the highest price on his head, or did 6 months ago anyway
[19:24:39] <arti> start kicking lol
[19:24:39] <n1> i dont think it needs crowdfunding, it wouldnt be successful
[19:24:44] <n1> it needs Fox to run with it
[19:24:54] <cykros> or turner networks
[19:24:56] <ciri> And congrats on the lookout for new musics.
[19:24:57] <cykros> just throw it on USA
[19:25:06] <cykros> that's where american gladiators used to be, wasn't it?
[19:25:41] <cykros> if fox had it they'd have to cancel it because there are robots and robots are like sci-fi and fox cancels sci-fi.
[19:25:47] <cykros> it's just what they do.
[19:25:51] <DrMag> heh.. I read that as "just throw it on (the) USA". Made sense that way too.
[19:26:42] <cykros> i think something about the hunger games may also have people a little averse to actually having such a thing.
[19:26:59] <n1> cykros, it's the combination of the live entertainment/talent competition and endless hours of content to generate after the 'events'
[19:27:16] <n1> would mean it would win, in spite of it having robot/sci-fi elements
[19:27:34] <cykros> i suppose that's true
[19:28:11] <cykros> oh god, i forget, that's the other thing i get by reading mainstream news. i get to hear about every last mentally unstable person with a gun at a shopping center.
[19:28:28] <cykros> i probably am catching up with 3 mass shootings right now in my rss feeds
[19:28:35] <arti> i think today's school thing is happening in Oregon
[19:28:48] <arti> we're still within normal bounds
[19:28:53] <cykros> U S A U S A! heh. gotta love that they're always in gun free zones.
[19:29:07] <arti> maybe they can pass some more laws!
[19:29:16] <arti> criminals seem to follow those
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[19:29:38] <n1> more are less guns are not the solution
[19:29:47] <n1> a compassionate society might be a start though
[19:30:04] <cykros> or, fewer people. fewer targets means mass shootings are harder.
[19:30:05] <DrMag> True that.
[19:30:15] <DrMag> *compassionate society, that is.
[19:30:16] <cykros> so, best just let it all run its course.
[19:30:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> funding for mental health care would go a long way towards eliminating those things
[19:30:41] * arti is still amused someone purchased supremegentleman.com
[19:30:47] <n1> 'run its course' is a complicated one, as the course was decided by men already
[19:31:22] * cykros backpedals because by run his course he meant "let the humans kill each other off" and wasn't 100% serious.
[19:31:43] <n1> cykros, i get what you mean
[19:31:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Living Computer Museum Wants YOU - http://sylnt.us - not-as-an-exhibit
[19:32:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, I'm not convinced that humans killing each other off won't happen...not convince that it *will* happen, either, though.
[19:32:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> hopefully we're smart enough not to be that self-destructive.
[19:32:36] <arti> people excel at cooperation
[19:33:07] * arti waits
[19:33:08] <cykros> arti: people excel at cooperation. what they're not always so good at is making choices that improve health and vitality vs. self destruction.
[19:33:09] <n1> i question now that we're educated to not cooperate
[19:33:22] <cykros> combine cooperation with self destruction and we might have an issue.
[19:33:23] <n1> because if you're expected to cooperate with others, they're entitled.
[19:33:37] <NCommander> paulej72, any luck with nexuses?
[19:33:57] <n1> how dare someone assume i have to cooperate with them, they should take personal responsibility to make the community better, if they see a way it can be done
[19:36:53] <n1> and someone has to make profit off it too, so unless we're cooperating against a common enemy, it doesn't happen.
[19:38:21] <cykros> oh, cooperation happens plenty. the powers that be get everyone cooperating to fight off the criminals, terrorists, and upstarts of the world. they just neglect to point out that the people they're enlisting happen to also be the ones they're fighting.
[19:38:37] <cykros> it makes everything nice and neat in the end.
[19:38:53] <n1> 'common enemy'
[19:38:54] <cykros> a war where all of the casualties are enemies.
[19:38:55] <n1> real or imagined
[19:39:25] <n1> but outside of fighting that common enemy, we seem all to keen to fight amongst ourselves to elevate our personal position
[19:42:48] <n1> we'll fight in the trenches with our neighbours, but once the battle is over, we then must fight the same man to compete in the market place
[19:44:32] LaminatorX|afk is now known as LaminatorX|probably-not-a-chat
[19:44:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice... i think i have it
[19:44:54] LaminatorX|probably-not-a-chat is now known as LaminatorX|likely-not-a-chat-b
[19:45:07] LaminatorX|likely-not-a-chat-b is now known as LaminatorX|lso-not-a-chat-bot
[19:45:13] LaminatorX|lso-not-a-chat-bot is now known as LaminatorX|so-not-a-chat-bot
[19:45:28] * LaminatorX|so-not-a-chat-bot spoiled a joke through poor execution.
[19:45:32] <DrMag> Or LaminatorX is the most indecisive chat bot out there.
[19:46:04] <LaminatorX|so-not-a-chat-bot> It seems handles have a character limit.
[19:46:31] <n1> NICKLEN=30 MAXNICKLEN=31
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[20:04:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> stupid github, why for you 403 me?
[20:06:27] <arti> 403 tu, brute?
[20:07:28] <LaminatorX|so-not-a-chat-bot> Yes.
[20:08:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> tis a sad. pretty sure i have unicode->html entity conversion working solid, understand why it does, and know why we can't do proper unicode to and from the db
[20:09:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> but github is hating on me
[20:11:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> there we go, finally
[20:20:09] <Woods> I just installed Google Chrome for half my user base... They are all confused because they do not know what their user/pass are to sign in to Chrome.
[20:20:41] <LaminatorX|so-not-a-chat-bot> Tell them it's "Google"
[20:21:22] <Woods> I am trying to go for a more generic "This is an internet browser, like IE, or Firefox"
[20:22:05] <Woods> I wonder how many people created accounts after downloading Chrome... Hm
[20:22:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, pull request in that should fix unicode for dev. Much smaller commit this time.
[20:23:14] <LaminatorX|so-not-a-chat-bot> I meant to tell them that their ID was "Google," and that they should type it in at the top and hit enter.
[20:23:48] <LaminatorX|so-not-a-chat-bot> Yu may have caused a noticable bump in G+ registrations, Woods.
[20:24:12] <Woods> Another surge in the service! G+ is coming back, baby!
[20:24:38] <Woods> Lammy: Yeah, I figured that out after I typed up my response, but I was too lazy to hold <backspace> for 3 seconds.
[20:26:40] <Woods> Sigh... Brb... A user is not understanding the "You do not have to sign in" bit.
[20:37:23] <DrMag> I've never been able to wrap my head around how difficult things like that seem to be for people.
[20:37:37] <DrMag> It's like half the world has the techincal grasp of my mother.
[20:37:57] * DrMag loves his mother, all the same.
[20:39:09] <arti> http://www.theonion.com
[20:39:10] <monopoly> Title: ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
[20:39:50] <n1> DrMag, i assume it's a different way people interpret visual clues
[20:39:52] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, what was the underlying cause?
[20:40:04] * NCommander fucking *hates* quitting smoking
[20:40:10] <NCommander> This time is worse than the last :-/
[20:40:11] <n1> clues/cues
[20:40:45] <arti> NCommander: it's hard
[20:40:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> for some reason the current implementation was never being called from its home in Data.pm
[20:40:56] * arti is at about 10 weeks
[20:40:59] <DrMag> NCommander, kudos for working it through!
[20:41:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is just as well since that is not where it needed to live.
[20:41:06] <DrMag> NCommander++
[20:41:06] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 32
[20:41:44] <DrMag> arti++
[20:41:44] <Bender> karma - arti: 50
[20:41:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> forms should be sanitized as part of pulling them rather than every single time you pull a form anywhere in the code.
[20:41:57] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, though it was working on dev for youno?
[20:41:58] <ciri> Some smart cookie has prolly developed a deobfuscator somewhere, but the foreign workers wont complain about dangerous working conditions of 'adjustments' to their pay.
[20:41:59] <arti> :)
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[20:43:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, wasn't ever working anywhere but my vm and i couldn't find the difference.
[20:43:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably a slightly newer library or different compile option on something obscure
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[20:44:10] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, probably :-/
[20:44:19] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I'll deploy this on dev in a few moments
[20:44:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. having a bit of lunch right now anyway.
[20:45:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's an ugly hack using html-entities but it's something while we work on proper unicode support through the whole chain.
[20:48:34] <Blackmoore> http://www.theonion.com
[20:48:35] <monopoly> Title: More Office Workers Switching To Fetal Position Desks | Video | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
[20:48:40] <SirFinkus> hah, I Just realized why my disks are failing
[20:48:45] <SirFinkus> construction behind my house
[20:48:49] <Blackmoore> OH?
[20:48:53] <SirFinkus> windows are constantly rattling
[20:49:05] <Blackmoore> oh cripes.
[20:49:13] <SirFinkus> gotta be it
[20:49:30] <SirFinkus> they're chopping down trees and shit too
[20:49:35] <Blackmoore> yeah. you need to put that system ontop of a carpet or a rubber pad
[20:49:57] <SirFinkus> those assholes
[20:50:12] <Blackmoore> i live next to a rail line.
[20:50:19] <SirFinkus> I live next to a cult
[20:50:27] * TheMightyBuzzard glances at liferea and despairs
[20:50:34] <arti> lol
[20:50:42] <arti> Send some virgins your way
[20:50:52] <Blackmoore> heh. do they play rock the casbah a lot?
[20:50:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> 700 some odd unread items. sigh.
[20:50:58] <SirFinkus> I'm not even joking, I hope they go jonestown soon
[20:51:06] <arti> white night. white night.
[20:51:10] <SirFinkus> no, but they have a compound
[20:51:20] <Blackmoore> o.O
[20:51:21] <SirFinkus> with 9 foot high concrete walls
[20:51:22] <arti> if it was in MN they'd have a compoond
[20:51:32] <arti> sounds like a day care
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[20:51:40] <arti> it's to keep all the filthy men out
[20:52:00] <SirFinkus> a few months ago I saw dump truck after dump truck leave the compound filled with dirt
[20:52:14] <arti> maybe it's kosher dirt?
[20:52:24] <SirFinkus> either bunkers or mass graves
[20:52:52] <arti> well, maybe they're makign a vault?
[20:53:13] <SirFinkus> oh, speaking of vaults, I fixed my gfx card
[20:53:23] * SirFinkus is listening to Uncle Acid and The Deadbeats — Evil Love, from the album Mind Control
[20:53:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> it was broke?
[20:53:34] <SirFinkus> they also have several greenhouses
[20:53:35] <arti> oh nice
[20:53:38] <SirFinkus> driver bullshit
[20:53:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[20:54:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> last one i fixed the fan went out, so i wire tied an 80mm one on top of it.
[20:54:18] <SirFinkus> lol I did that with a chipset fan once
[20:54:25] <SirFinkus> I used hot glue though
[20:54:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice
[20:55:04] <SirFinkus> wasn't an 80mm though, I actually think it came off a (very) old nic
[20:55:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn. never seen a nic with a fan before.
[20:55:59] <SirFinkus> it was something weird like that, it was in a box that came with an old mac se I found
[20:56:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> i really hope this commit works or ima be annoyed
[20:56:20] <SirFinkus> along with a bunch of old modems and other junk
[20:56:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> funky
[20:56:36] <arti> maybe its a nic made for cold environments
[20:56:47] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I'm deploying the change now
[20:57:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[20:57:26] * NCommander is twiching
[20:57:27] <NCommander> Ugh, the first 48 are the worst
[20:57:35] <SirFinkus> my friend has a 4 port switch with a fan
[20:57:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, quitters never win
[20:58:19] * NCommander is having SSH problems
[20:58:37] <SirFinkus> what if you're a gambler?
[20:58:48] <paulej72> NCommander: nexus saving is woking on dev, I also removed the check for minimum nexuses
[20:58:51] <SirFinkus> if I go into a casino, hit the jackpot, then quit, did I not win?
[20:58:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> blame it on cowboyneal
[20:59:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, no. you just won and didn't feel the need to win any more.
[20:59:57] <NCommander> paulej72, ah crap, I just did a deploy to land TheMightyBuzzard's code for testing
[21:00:05] <NCommander> paulej72, looks like 14.06.2 will have nexuses + UTF-8
[21:00:06] <NCommander> Yay win
[21:00:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot
[21:01:07] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, deployed
[21:01:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> testing
[21:02:31] <paulej72> NCommander: I can add my fix real quick if you want
[21:03:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks good
[21:03:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> that was raw pasted unicode going in, not html notation.
[21:03:50] <NCommander> paulej72, yeah, lets get a merge up, I'd like to push this update today
[21:04:03] <paulej72> nexus fix added back in. I just need to fix the css befor we deploy this
[21:04:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> works in the subject and department as well
[21:04:52] <paulej72> NCommander: I can start working on it after 4:30. Need to do real work for now :)
[21:05:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> comments peachy as well
[21:05:45] <NCommander> paulej72, great
[21:07:24] <paulej72> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:08:15] <NCommander> I'm having some issues with it
[21:08:24] <NCommander> I think the lameass filter is choking
[21:08:25] <ciri> Title: most americans think snowden did the right way, and insane unemployment under him.
[21:09:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep
[21:09:42] <paulej72> 4 byte chineese is not encoding properly.
[21:10:19] <paulej72> Lameass filter error nothing to say.
[21:11:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Using Flood Zone Tactics to Deal With Sea Level Rise - http://sylnt.us - highwater-pants-still-not-in-fashion
[21:11:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> we may be out of luck on the 4byte characters
[21:11:16] <paulej72> http://www.i18nguy.com
[21:11:35] <NCommander> paulej72, well, its still one hell of an improvement, should stop most of the random managling we're seeing
[21:11:44] <DrMag> Ugh.. why does it only take about 5 pages of a textbook to put me into a coma?
[21:12:16] <paulej72> DrMag: that is 4 more than most people, so concider youself lucky
[21:12:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, those don't work in my browser either.
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[21:12:53] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: what browser/OS
[21:13:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess i should install the language packs
[21:13:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> FF/arch
[21:13:21] <paulej72> safari/Mac OS 10.9 for me works
[21:13:36] <LaminatorX|so-not-a-chat-bot> Looks nice. How about things like "smart" quotes and mdashes?
[21:13:37] <paulej72> language packs
[21:13:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[21:14:00] <Blackmoore> NCommander: first 48 hrs? are you detoxing?
[21:14:20] <arti> like “ and ” ?
[21:14:23] <NCommander> er
[21:14:23] <NCommander> Oops
[21:14:35] <arti> NCommander is giving up using nuke
[21:14:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> arti, it SHOULD encode anything outside the ascii range, so in theory anyway.
[21:15:14] <arti> well, very cool, let's see what the users can come up with ;)
[21:15:22] <NCommander> I think I accidently spammed slashdot.jp testing UTF-8 on their site
[21:15:29] <Blackmoore> doh
[21:15:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> doh
[21:15:48] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, ulitmately, we want full unicode support, the html charrefs is a kludge
[21:15:55] <NCommander> and they're depreicated as of HTML4 ...
[21:16:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
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[21:16:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> it may be our dbd modules being too old stopping us. read something about that earlier but didn't check the versions right then.
[21:17:15] <LaminatorX|so-not-a-chat-bot> I just replied with a pile of uni-table. more to come.
[21:17:53] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, if/when we ever get to Apache 2, we're going to have a large overhaul of the underlying crap
[21:18:05] <paulej72> LaminatorX|so-not-a-chat-bot: smart quotes and em dash seem to work.
[21:18:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> dear god yes. some of it i see what they were trying to do but it's just plain WRONG
[21:19:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> and if i never see another $foo = $bar : $baz ? $chickenbutt it will be too freaking soon.
[21:21:15] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, the login code is a special sort of stupid
[21:21:26] <NCommander> Seriously, its implemented as an Apache hook -_-;
[21:21:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> yerg
[21:21:42] * NCommander guesses in terms of performance, maybe its a good idea but still
[21:22:22] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, if you want to rip out the lameass filter checks for caps, be my guest
[21:22:30] <mrcoolbp> yeah please
[21:23:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's a regex for that stored in a var somewhere i think but i forget what the name was and there're a damned pile of them.
[21:24:44] <NCommander> So, since we started gathering stats:
[21:24:44] <NCommander> 4666 visits, 2371 unique visitors
[21:25:14] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: i hate $foo = $bar : $baz ? $chickenbutt, especially when it is writen on multiple lines
[21:25:19] <NCommander> and 15495 pageviews, 11333 unique pageviews
[21:25:32] <NCommander> Readability would go a long way if we deleted every instance of that in the codebase
[21:25:41] <Woods> NCommander: When did we start gathering stats?
[21:25:56] <NCommander> Woods, late Saturday
[21:26:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, i know, it's a damned if else statement that someone's being cute with in production code
[21:26:20] <NCommander> Woods, I ran a post, and theres a note on both the FAQ and the site about it
[21:26:22] <paulej72> damn one line perl expressions
[21:26:30] <Woods> Is there? I missed it.
[21:26:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, I may very well start doing that tomorrow.
[21:26:39] <arti> couldn't you just remove all the cr/lf
[21:26:57] <NCommander> Woods, welcome to the life of "meta" posts
[21:27:09] * TheMightyBuzzard sifts through vars for regexs
[21:27:14] <paulej72> arti: I have been when working on a piece of code that has it in.
[21:27:35] * paulej72 hates hard line breaks in code.
[21:27:39] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: instead of a featured story thing, we could just add a link to said featured story in a slash box and be done with it
[21:27:46] <paulej72> That is why God created word wrap
[21:28:03] <arti> i like changing styles half way through a project
[21:28:57] <NCommander> arti, like OpenSSL :-)
[21:29:04] * NCommander notes actually, slashcode is nowhere that bad internally
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[21:29:16] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: NCommander speakin of which one of the slashboxes that is not currently active is for featued stories. Sort of like the site news, but more for stories with a longer term life
[21:29:34] <mrcoolbp> exactly!
[21:29:35] <mrcoolbp> nice
[21:29:53] <arti> i like it to the tea party scene in alice in wonderland
[21:29:57] <arti> NEW STYLE NEW STYLE!
[21:29:59] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: can I edit that slashbox from the admin interface?
[21:30:20] <paulej72> It could be truned on and set that editor level rights could be used to edit that slashbox from the admin interface.
[21:30:24] <NCommander> bah
[21:30:28] * NCommander loves flakely net
[21:30:32] <NCommander> paulej72, shall I start making the necessary stuff in production to create nexuses?
[21:30:39] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: I have superadmin methinks
[21:30:39] <arti> sounds like a matrix cerial
[21:30:51] <arti> move over tasty wheat, flakely net is here
[21:31:04] <NCommander> paulej72, I think from the get-go, a "Meta", and a "Politics" one is the way to go since those are likely the two most people will want to filter out
[21:31:29] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: probably
[21:31:44] <arti> which ones are the females in ____ under
[21:32:03] <arti> ethanol probably keeps switching those up
[21:32:18] <paulej72> NCommander: could you try to find out where on prod the All Sections drop down item came from when slecting a where a sub is posing to.
[21:32:26] <paulej72> It is not on dev now.
[21:32:28] <NCommander> paulej72, that's the skins tabe
[21:32:29] <NCommander> *table
[21:32:31] <ciri> Https source table connection 0 up, let me reconnect.
[21:32:43] * arti pets ciri
[21:33:10] <NCommander> Hrm
[21:33:12] <paulej72> NCommander: we need ssl certs for meta and politics if you are going to nexus them
[21:33:24] <NCommander> paulej72, Crud
[21:33:28] <NCommander> We'd need a wildcard certificate
[21:33:46] <paulej72> NCommander: i agreee
[21:33:58] <NCommander> ...
[21:34:02] * NCommander wonders how much those go for
[21:34:31] <arti> $70+?
[21:34:38] <paulej72> NCommander: it’s not the price it’s the paper work.
[21:35:01] <NCommander> paulej72, ?
[21:35:54] <paulej72> I head that wildcard certs require more paperwork from a reputable ca than just your ordinarly one.
[21:35:59] * NCommander has never bought a wildcart certificate
[21:36:09] <NCommander> paulej72, the domain still under matt_'s control
[21:36:48] <NCommander> Looks like wildcarts start in the 200+ department
[21:36:51] <paulej72> http://www.thawte.com $499
[21:36:52] <monopoly> Title: Buy Wildcard SSL Certificates Now | Thawte
[21:36:58] <NCommander> Found a few that are cheaper
[21:37:00] <NCommander> But not much
[21:37:18] <paulej72> good ca’s or ones that are not in the root
[21:38:15] <NCommander> Good CAs
[21:39:40] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: did you see the topic icons from that volunteer?
[21:39:51] <paulej72> no
[21:40:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> tweaked the caps filters, restarting apache
[21:40:51] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: http://www.randmcnatt.com
[21:40:52] <monopoly> Title: Index of /icons
[21:40:58] <NCommander> paulej72, looks like wildcard certificates aren't really an option until post-incorporation
[21:41:22] <NCommander> paulej72, we could beg linode for additional IPs but ...
[21:41:49] <NCommander> ick, no, we won't be able to LB properly like that
[21:42:22] <NCommander> I think I am beginning to understand why things like reddit don't go subdomain crazy
[21:42:28] <mrcoolbp> brb
[21:42:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> stupid whitespace filter has to go too
[21:42:42] <arti> well you'd need to automate adding those things in right?
[21:42:50] <arti> that's a total chore
[21:45:45] <paulej72> NCommander: cant we just set up two more load balacners and terminate there just like now?
[21:46:23] * TheMightyBuzzard snarls at the filter
[21:47:03] <NCommander> paulej72, at $20 dollars a pop?
[21:47:03] <NCommander> Ow
[21:47:54] <paulej72> NCommander: we need to test this on dev, set the host name of meta to dev.soylentnews.org and url of meta and see if slash can handle it
[21:48:24] <NCommander> paulej72, sure
[21:48:54] <paulej72> that way our nexus are sub directories insead of sub domains
[21:49:27] <NCommander> paulej72, so dev.soylentnews.org/meta for the URL/
[21:49:28] <NCommander> or?
[21:49:50] <paulej72> NCommander: just meta for the url
[21:50:00] <NCommander> Alright
[21:50:04] <paulej72> based on what was going on yesterday
[21:50:28] <NCommander> paulej72, updated
[21:50:59] <NCommander> Need to bounce dev
[21:52:14] <paulej72> NCommander: cookie issue
[21:52:27] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm not having any
[21:52:42] <NCommander> paulej72, so the URL now points to dev.soylentnews.org/meta
[21:53:32] <paulej72> NCommander: when i click on the link dev.soylentnews.org/meta in the meta story it sends me to meta, but logged out
[21:53:55] <NCommander> paulej72, log out fully, then log in to reset the cookie
[21:54:01] <NCommander> I fixed the cookie domain thing, but it wasn't retroactive
[21:54:05] <paulej72> NCommander: I tried that
[21:54:06] <NCommander> WHen I go to dev.soylentnews.org/meta, I get a 404
[21:54:14] <NCommander> paulej72, wonder why my cookies are sticky and yours aren't
[21:55:51] * NCommander does abit of symlink magic
[21:56:13] <paulej72> NCommander: I have a few issues with the index template that will need to be fixed as well.
[21:57:22] <NCommander> paulej72, that didn't work
[21:57:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> me, i'm claiming my minor victory and monkeying with something entirely else.
[21:57:40] <NCommander> When I linked in the necessary slash files to /meta, it got in a redirect loop (I went to dev.soylentnews.org/meta/meta)
[21:59:00] <NCommander> paulej72, I *think* the way its supposed to work is you have a separate "site" directory (under sites) for each vhost
[22:00:12] <NCommander> Or not
[22:00:19] <NCommander> That looks like thats for completely seperate slash installs
[22:00:21] <NCommander> Side by side
[22:16:38] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm mulling on how we could reasonably handle the subdomain issue
[22:17:28] <arti> how many subdmains are you considering?
[22:17:33] <arti> dozens?
[22:17:37] <arti> hundreds?
[22:18:10] <NCommander> arti, well, I'd like nexuses to become our version of subreddits
[22:18:12] <paulej72> NCommander: what did you change on dev since changing the meta skin?
[22:18:25] <arti> aaah very cool
[22:19:03] <NCommander> arti, I mean, strictly speaking, we could even let someone attach a custom domain, and have them point it at the site at a nexus ...
[22:19:17] <NCommander> paulej72, haven't changed anything
[22:19:29] <NCommander> paulej72, er, I made a symlink of the files in / to /meta
[22:19:40] <NCommander> Then I moved those out of the way when I found all it did was cause a redirect loop
[22:23:32] <NCommander> paulej72, I think the sane thing to do is simply set the skin/URL to soylentnews.org, so they all point to the same place even though they are different nexuses
[22:24:18] <NCommander> I'm going to get some food, I shall return
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[22:27:30] <juggs> ~list
[22:27:31] <exec> ~list ~list-auth ~lock ~unlock
[22:27:31] <exec> rofl ~ ~cowsay ~moo ~fortune ~php ~con/con ~join ~part ~isup ~time ~rainbow ~translate ~translate-sl ~define ~define-add ~define-count ~define-sources ~weather ~weather-add ~help ~help-script ~civ ~civ-save ~civ-todo ~mackey
[22:28:38] <juggs> ~help
[22:28:39] <exec> alias "~help" requires additional trailing argument
[22:29:23] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: what directory were you deploying slash from on dev?
[22:29:52] <juggs> ~join #juggs
[22:32:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cryptographers Propose a Safer Buddy List Protocol. - http://sylnt.us - avoid-storing-metadata
[22:32:05] <ciri> [Soylentnews] - cryptographers propose a space nutter... Just becoming more pragmatic as i get it though.
[22:32:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, i wasn't. i let NC do that the few times it was needed
[22:32:19] <NCommander> Did any of my previous messages go through?
[22:32:23] <NCommander> On how to handle nexuses?
[22:32:44] <paulej72> NCommander: yes, but let me try something
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[22:34:01] * NCommander notes these nictoine candies (for want of a better of a word) are helping
[22:34:12] <NCommander> But they really should mix them with some sorta cough releaver
[22:34:24] <Blackmoore> ciri.. wtf..
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[22:35:38] <Blackmoore> hmm.. i can see a market for a candy with Nicotine, and acts like a lozenge(sp)
[22:36:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> Blackmoore, the lung nazis would never allow that.
[22:36:22] <Blackmoore> aw - the kids wouldl just gobble those up
[22:36:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> not without a prescription anyway
[22:37:03] <Blackmoore> (suruptipicuoslly makes a candy of nicotine, and codine..)
[22:38:47] <Blackmoore> and a pleasent menthol flavor!
[22:40:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll stick with my pipe and homerolled, thanks.
[22:42:15] <NCommander> On a completely unrelated note, this is quite possibly the best plate of salt and pepper shrimp I ever had
[22:45:21] <LaminatorX|so-not-a-chat-bot> Congratulations.
[22:59:08] * mrcoolbp is trying to get his brother to look at slashcode
[23:05:02] * mrcoolbp fires up VB to at least finally have access to linux again
[23:06:38] <paulej72> NCommander: at one point I was going to dev.soylentnews.org/meta/ and getting a real version of meta. Now i just get the dir listing.
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[23:11:19] <mrcoolbp> mrcoolbp's brother ^^
[23:11:29] <weirdpercent> hello all
[23:11:40] <bryan> NCommander: i have 2 wildcard domains for pipedot
[23:11:45] <NCommander> Ugh
[23:11:49] * NCommander just got drenched coming back from dinner
[23:11:57] <NCommander> bryan, how'd you handle verification and who'd you use?
[23:12:26] <bryan> *.pipedot.org is from startcom for $59.90, and *.pipecode.org is from globalsign for free
[23:13:10] <bryan> startcom is an israel based CA that has really cheap prices for certs
[23:13:49] <bryan> in fact, it's free for single domain, and just that $60 for wildcard (because of the extra validation)
[23:14:49] <bryan> globalsign will give you a free wildcard cert for your webpage if you prove that your webpage is hosting an open source project
[23:15:17] <NCommander> Don't think we qualify on the later (the code is on github)
[23:15:35] <bryan> then startcom is your best bet for sure
[23:15:48] <bryan> all the other places charge *way* too much for wildcard certs
[23:16:00] <bryan> https://www.startssl.com
[23:16:03] <monopoly> Title: StartSSL™ Certificates & Public Key Infrastructure
[23:19:44] <NCommander> bryan, yeah thats probably fine
[23:21:24] <NCommander> bryan, what's necessary for validation?
[23:22:04] <bryan> i had to send in photocopies of a couple of different ids (drivers license and passport, if i remember correctly)
[23:22:42] <NCommander> bryan, I've got those
[23:22:44] <NCommander> Not a problem
[23:23:02] <NCommander> bryan, I guess I just don't want it issued in my name per-say, but we can probably re-issue after we incorporate
[23:23:15] <bryan> oh and a phone bill, but the family plan i was on screwed that up, so they had to send a snail mail letter to me with a one-time password key that i had to verify
[23:24:03] <NCommander> bryan, that one is tricky, unless they'll accept a forwarded one from T-Mobile
[23:24:07] * NCommander hasn't gotten a paper bill in years
[23:24:13] <bryan> unless you get the "extended validation" (that stupid green bar crap) the cert doesnt have your name anywhere in it, just the domain name
[23:25:43] <NCommander> bryan, oh :-)
[23:25:50] <NCommander> bryan, I've never actually bought a real SSL cert before
[23:25:52] <NCommander> */new at this*
[23:26:23] * NCommander has his passport though its admitly not in great shape
[23:26:35] <bryan> the whole CA industry is corrupt and overpriced; note that's how ubuntu's mark s. made his millions :P
[23:27:16] <bryan> 1) make a CA in your garage 2) get CA included in early web browsers 3) sell CA to network solutions for millions!
[23:27:57] <paulej72> bryan: can I go back in time and do that :)
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[23:30:59] <NCommander> Meh, if I could go back in time, I could corner the market
[23:31:01] <bryan> paulej72: may as well buy a few shares of facebook, apple, and google while you are at it :P
[23:32:44] * NCommander SCPs the file from my phone
[23:32:57] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm just going to get the wildcard cert, path of least resistence
[23:33:11] <paulej72> sounds good to me
[23:33:44] <NCommander> Ugh, they want the files less than 1 MiB
[23:33:54] * NCommander is going to have to do some cropping
[23:35:07] <mrcoolbp> just a resize should do it
[23:38:32] <DrMag> NCommander: Maybe just resize image? Different image type?
[23:39:46] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, I retook them at a lower resolution (plus the first set had shadows on them)
[23:40:25] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: where did you set up shop today?
[23:40:40] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, the lobby
[23:40:44] <NCommander> The weather turned nasty
[23:40:47] <crutchy> coffee++
[23:40:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 223
[23:40:47] <mrcoolbp> ah
[23:41:24] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: Thurday is still looking good, I'll be at the prudential center and getting out around 1pm-2pm
[23:41:44] <NCommander> Ugh
[23:41:51] <NCommander> I hate uploading personal information anywhere
[23:41:55] <NCommander> I *get* why they need it but still
[23:44:36] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, paulej72 validation request is in
[23:44:38] <NCommander> Now we wait
[23:44:55] <crutchy> anyone know how xlefay's doing?
[23:45:06] <NCommander> crutchy, we heard that he's ok, and hopes to return to us soon
[23:45:07] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: neato, is all the code working then?
[23:45:23] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, for the most part, paulej72 needs to massage the CSS into less ugly
[23:45:24] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: we're not sure when he'll resurface
[23:45:45] <crutchy> hope it wasn't the dreaded 'a' word
[23:46:21] <NCommander> Play DF, watch a movie, or put extra hours in at work
[23:46:22] <NCommander> Ugh
[23:46:43] <crutchy> option4: code some junk
[23:47:38] <crutchy> just make sure its not overly useful else won't be as fun :-P
[23:50:11] <crutchy> maybe a new apt-get moo is in order
[23:50:37] <crutchy> the current one looks more like a creepy goat
[23:51:11] <NCommander> Well, that was quick
[23:51:20] <NCommander> They're already complaing that my documentation is skewed across several states :-)
[23:52:10] <mrcoolbp> that sounds about right
[23:52:47] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, if I can't validate my identity, would you be willing to do it? I'll paypal you the money
[23:52:47] <ciri> Like the character, it's pretty complex but i am willing to engange them, i use bookmarks anyway.
[23:52:57] <NCommander> ............
[23:53:04] * NCommander counts to ten before kickbanning the bot
[23:53:16] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: ban it, it's useless
[23:53:23] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: and yes, of course
[23:53:23] <crutchy> aw its fun
[23:53:31] -!- mode/#Soylent [+b *!*ciri@*.com] by NCommander
[23:53:31] -!- ciri was kicked from #Soylent by NCommander!~mcasadeva@Soylent/Staff/Sysop/mcasadevall [9 ... 10 ... still annoying! GOODBYE!]
[23:53:37] <mrcoolbp> haha
[23:53:52] * crutchy gives ciri yet another blue crayon and wipes slobber off window
[23:53:59] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: what do you need me to do?
[23:54:17] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, to help with my efforts to *TAKE OVER THE WORLD*
[23:54:30] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, nothing as of yet. If need be though, you might have to deal with getting the wildcard cert
[23:54:34] <mrcoolbp> the same thing we do every night?
[23:54:44] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: no problem
[23:54:50] <crutchy> ciri is like the dumbest human in the history of dumbness, but that's still pretty good for ai :-P
[23:55:08] <NCommander> crutchy, no comment
[23:55:09] <mrcoolbp> you mean AD ?
[23:55:16] <mrcoolbp> Artificial Dumbness?
[23:56:11] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: let me introduce my brother
[23:56:20] <mrcoolbp> "weirdpercent"
[23:56:46] <mrcoolbp> he said he can help find a wildcard cert
[23:57:12] <NCommander> weirdpercent, ?
[23:57:13] <weirdpercent> salutations.
[23:57:24] -!- mechanicjay has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[23:57:33] <NCommander> weirdpercent, ... I have to ask, what percentage of your family is weird?
[23:57:54] <weirdpercent> it varies, but mostly, a shitton.
[23:58:03] * mrcoolbp notes that he isn't that weird in his own minde
[23:58:05] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, right now, I just asked them if an electronic copy of the phone bill will be acceptable
[23:58:17] <NCommander> so, it hasn't been a *kill* just yet
[23:58:24] * mrcoolbp doesn't have paper copies of a phone bill
[23:58:39] * mrcoolbp does have paper copies of an electric bill though
[23:58:46] <weirdpercent> that's the other thing to take into account when looking for a cert provider is not just how much it costs but what hoops do they make you jump through
[23:58:57] * NCommander is lucky he has a phone bill
[23:59:03] <NCommander> weirdpercent, bryan recommended the SSL provider I was already looking at
[23:59:08] -!- Woods has quit [Quit: Web client closed]
[23:59:10] <NCommander> $60 for a wildcard and personal validation