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[00:51:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Marshals Seize Cops' Spying Records - http://sylnt.us - things-just-got-a-whole-lot-worse
[01:23:58] <crutchy> Bender: s/Spying Records/Scrotums/
[01:23:58] <SedBot> <crutchy> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Marshals Seize Cops' Scrotums - http://sylnt.us - things-just-got-a-whole-lot-worse
[01:36:44] <crutchy> i feel like i'm hungover
[01:36:55] <crutchy> but haven't drunk anything
[01:36:58] <crutchy> :-/
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[01:56:49] <SpallsHurgenson> Huh. http://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:56:50] <monopoly> Title: Redmond is patching Windows 8 but NOT Windows 7, say security bods • The Register
[01:57:38] <SpallsHurgenson> why is it that if my CAR or even microwave has a serious flaw, manufacturers have to recall it or fix it on their dime - even if it is out of warranty and they have newer models - but software developers are off the hook?
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[02:09:06] <crutchy> cos software is isn't real
[02:09:18] <crutchy> its a figment of our collective imaginations
[02:10:07] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, okay then :)
[02:10:12] <crutchy> and because there's no such thing as software bugs... just inintended features :-P
[02:10:15] <SpallsHurgenson> I knew there was a reason for it :)
[02:10:31] <SpallsHurgenson> I bet GM wishes they could get away with stuff like that :)
[02:10:57] <crutchy> or ford
[02:11:08] <crutchy> we'd all be driving around in pintos
[02:11:29] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, I liked the pinto :)
[02:11:32] <crutchy> ford pintos, gm pintos, chryster pintos, toyota pintos, etc
[02:12:34] <SpallsHurgenson> and honestly, these days it often seems we ARE all driving pintos, just with more stylish exteriors and USB ports for our iphones :)
[02:12:55] <crutchy> 'ford pinto... now with free extras like fire extinguisher!'
[02:13:02] <crutchy> lol yeah
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[02:16:00] <crutchy> and new zealand is probably on the same path too, but probably in similar boat as australia
[02:17:01] <crutchy> though i bet nz politicians are more scared of mauri than aussie politicians are of abordiginals
[02:17:19] <SpallsHurgenson> <troll> there's a difference between New Zealand and Australia? I thought they were the same country! </troll>
[02:17:35] <crutchy> so at least there is a "people's army" in NZ
[02:17:46] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson: they will be one day ;-)
[02:18:40] <crutchy> australia will become the second state of new zealand :-P
[02:19:02] <crutchy> and we'll all be eating fush and chups :-D
[02:19:31] <crutchy> *pokes JamesNZ*
[02:19:34] <SpallsHurgenson> <even more troll> well, I guess you need a place for the 3% of your population not into sheep buggery </troll>
[02:20:06] <crutchy> lol is that a poke at NZ or Aus?
[02:20:07] <JamesNZ> crutchy: I'm too bored to respond -_-
[02:20:47] <SpallsHurgenson> the sheep are safe in Australia. It's the koalas that need to be scared :) :)
[02:21:08] <crutchy> hell no i'm scared of koalas... they chase people
[02:21:23] <SpallsHurgenson> I thought those were the dropbears
[02:22:00] <crutchy> hmm never heard of a koala falling out of a tree. i'm sure its happened though
[02:22:31] <SpallsHurgenson> http://en.wikipedia.org
[02:22:32] <monopoly> Title: Drop bear - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[02:22:35] <crutchy> there must be something in that eucalyptus oil that's pretty good for them too keep going at it
[02:23:45] <crutchy> lmao "Thylarctos plummetus"
[02:24:21] <crutchy> or droppus bearus
[02:25:29] <crutchy> lol daughter: "remember when that bad guy farted, <giggle>"
[02:25:30] <ciri> It's where stallone's daughter, and punch one of my phone came with a hispanic guy that can't say char... It comes in quite handy.
[02:26:16] <crutchy> ciri, maybe the hispanic guy has never heard the story of the zerg so he just has no need to say char?
[02:27:00] <crutchy> !decide
[02:27:18] <crutchy> !decide !decide !decide
[02:27:18] <ciri> The roll of the dice picks: !decide.
[02:27:25] <crutchy> dammit!
[02:30:28] <chromas> ~define char
[02:30:30] <exec> [urbandictionary] Char: Fun person,hott, usually a girl, very flirtatious, awesome personality.
[02:30:56] <chromas> never heard that one
[02:31:03] <SpallsHurgenson> ~define fash
[02:31:06] <exec> [urbandictionary] Fash: short for fascist
[02:31:19] <SpallsHurgenson> exec needs a better dictionary
[02:32:13] <chromas> ~define gash
[02:32:15] <exec> [urbandictionary] gash: A term for the female genitalia, implying that it looks like a hatchet wound. See: alcove, bat cave, bear trap, bearded clam, bearded taco, beaver, bermuda triangle, box, bucket seat, cake, chuff box, cockpit, cooch, coochie, coochie-pop, coose, cooter, cooze, crack, crawl space, cum depository, cum dumpster, cuntcake, cunt, cunny, donut, dripping delta, felted mound, fillet-o-fish, finger hut, fi...
[02:32:29] <chromas> bear trap
[02:32:35] * SpallsHurgenson washes exec's mouth out with soap
[02:32:36] <arti> beer trap
[02:32:50] <chromas> I hope it's Lifebuiy
[02:32:56] <chromas> s/iy/oy/
[02:32:56] <SedBot> <chromas> I hope it's Lifebuoy
[02:34:21] * SpallsHurgenson shoots chromas's eye out with an official Red Ryder, carbine action, two-hundred shot range model air rifle
[02:34:56] * chromas gives SpallsHurgenson his official Orphan Annie decorder ring
[02:35:14] <chromas> For decording things
[02:35:20] <crutchy> lol
[02:35:26] <crutchy> ~define decorder
[02:35:28] <exec> [urbandictionary] decorder: lang='en-US' prefix='og: http://ogp.me'> window.NREUM||(NREUM={});NREUM.info={"beacon":"beacon-2.newrelic.com","errorBeacon":"bam.nr-data.net","licenseKey":"af402a03f5","applicationID":"3690460","transactionName":"d1xaTEMMDg4ARk5UAFJaWl0eCgwGAEw=","queueTime":12,"applicationTime":308,"ttGuid":"","agentToken":null,"agent":"js-agent.newrelic.com/nr-411.min.js"} window.NREUM||(NREUM={}),__nr_req...
[02:35:30] <monopoly> Title: The Open Graph protocol
[02:35:36] <crutchy> :-/
[02:35:39] <chromas> woops
[02:35:43] <chromas> hey I had that problem too
[02:35:56] <SpallsHurgenson> "Don't... forget... to drink...your... Ovaltine. A crummy commercial?"
[02:35:56] <chromas> When it didn't find the <title> tag
[02:36:05] <crutchy> maybe you have to decord it first :-P
[02:36:18] <chromas> Why were they do desparate to get into the bathroom as soon as he went in?
[02:36:46] <SpallsHurgenson> they didn't forget to drink their ovaltine; that stuff goes right through you :)
[02:36:57] <crutchy> ~define ovaltine
[02:36:59] <exec> [urbandictionary] ovaltine: Narcotic to be used to subdue the will of children. Symptoms of Ovaltine poisoning: A)Children travel in packs like wild predators, taking down their game (other children) by striking at the neck and back. Only the most vigorous of them is spared and brought as an offering to their parents house, where the other children are rewarded with a fresh suck at the Ovaltine teat. B)Children chant mindles...
[02:37:11] <crutchy> lol
[02:38:25] <crutchy> ~define window.NREUM||(
[02:38:26] <exec> [urbandictionary] window.NREUM||(: lang='en-US' prefix='og: http://ogp.me'> window.NREUM||(NREUM={});NREUM.info={"beacon":"beacon-2.newrelic.com","errorBeacon":"bam.nr-data.net","licenseKey":"af402a03f5","applicationID":"3690460","transactionName":"d1xaTEMMDg4ARk5UAFJaWl0eCgwGAEw=","queueTime":38,"applicationTime":97,"ttGuid":"","agentToken":null,"agent":"js-agent.newrelic.com/nr-411.min.js"} window.NREUM||(NREUM={}),__nr_requ...
[02:38:32] <crutchy> hehe
[02:38:41] <crutchy> stupid bot
[02:38:51] <chromas> ~define \0x0
[02:38:52] <exec> [urbandictionary] \0x0: lang='en-US' prefix='og: http://ogp.me'> window.NREUM||(NREUM={});NREUM.info={"beacon":"beacon-2.newrelic.com","errorBeacon":"bam.nr-data.net","licenseKey":"af402a03f5","applicationID":"3690460","transactionName":"d1xaTEMMDg4ARk5UAFJaWl0eCgwGAEw=","queueTime":28,"applicationTime":78,"ttGuid":"","agentToken":null,"agent":"js-agent.newrelic.com/nr-411.min.js"} window.NREUM||(NREUM={}),__nr_requ...
[02:39:04] <chromas> ~define \0x10
[02:39:06] <exec> [urbandictionary] \0x10: lang='en-US' prefix='og: http://ogp.me'> window.NREUM||(NREUM={});NREUM.info={"beacon":"beacon-2.newrelic.com","errorBeacon":"bam.nr-data.net","licenseKey":"af402a03f5","applicationID":"3690460","transactionName":"d1xaTEMMDg4ARk5UAFJaWl0eCgwGAEw=","queueTime":15,"applicationTime":306,"ttGuid":"","agentToken":null,"agent":"js-agent.newrelic.com/nr-411.min.js"} window.NREUM||(NREUM={}),__nr_req...
[02:39:39] * crutchy opens browser for some testing
[02:40:15] <crutchy> might reduce the max message length a bit
[02:41:13] <crutchy> ~define window.NREUM||(
[02:41:14] <exec> [urbandictionary] window.NREUM||(: lang='en-US' prefix='og: http://ogp.me'> window.NREUM||(NREUM={});NREUM.info={"beacon":"beacon-2.newrelic.com","errorBeacon":"bam.nr-data.net","licenseKey":"af402a03f5","applicationID":"3690460","transactionName":"d1xaTEMMDg4ARk5UAFJaWl0eCgwGAEw=","queueTime":38,"applicationTime":97,"ttGuid":""...
[02:41:23] <crutchy> hmm maybe bit more
[02:41:49] <crutchy> maybe should add the star trek wiki thing
[02:43:24] <crutchy> ~php strpos
[02:43:25] <exec> mixed strpos( string $haystack , mixed $needle [, int $offset = 0] )
[02:44:00] <crutchy> eventually i'll learn the needle/haystack order
[02:44:17] <crutchy> ~define window.NREUM||(
[02:44:18] <exec> [urbandictionary] window.NREUM||(: lang='en-US' prefix='og: http://ogp.me'> window.NREUM||(NREUM={});NREUM.info={"beacon":"beacon-2.newrelic.com","errorBeacon":"bam.nr-data.net","licenseKey":"af402a03f5","applicationID":"3690460",...
[02:44:33] <crutchy> hmm
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[02:47:00] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmmmm
[02:47:12] <chromas> hmmmmmmmmm
[02:47:19] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[02:49:55] <SpallsHurgenson> I want cake.
[02:51:57] <chromas> What kind of cake?
[02:52:10] <SpallsHurgenson> something spectacularly unhealthy, I thin
[02:52:11] <SpallsHurgenson> k
[02:52:32] <crutchy> a cupcake?
[02:52:50] <SpallsHurgenson> that's only moderately unhealthy
[02:52:53] <crutchy> i had a cupcake yesterday :-D
[02:53:06] <crutchy> ~define window.NREUM||(
[02:53:10] <exec> window.NREUM||(: unable to find definition
[02:56:14] <SpallsHurgenson> exec: check behind the couch, that's where I always find stuff I've lost
[02:58:10] <crutchy> maybe you have to declare variables before finding them?
[02:59:08] <SpallsHurgenson> sort of like when you go through customs!
[02:59:26] <SpallsHurgenson> that was funnier in my head before I said it
[03:01:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why Statistically Significant Studies Aren't Necessarily Significant - http://sylnt.us - but-its-probably-not-significant
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[03:36:34] <crutchy> ~define-sources
[03:36:55] <crutchy> ~reload
[03:36:57] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file
[03:37:01] <crutchy> ~define-sources
[03:37:02] <exec> definition sources in order of preference: www.stoacademy.com > www.urbandictionary.com > www.wolframalpha.com
[03:37:08] <monopoly> Title: STO Academy
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[03:53:55] <chromas> My internet is jacking off
[03:54:20] <chromas> IRC's the only thing working now I think
[03:54:22] <Konomi> when will it climax?
[03:54:36] <crutchy> www.climax.com
[03:54:55] <crutchy> aaah c'mon moropory
[03:54:58] <chromas> Hopefully right away; getting bluelinks
[03:55:08] <chromas> it doesn't detect that as a url because it's technically not
[03:55:18] <crutchy> its not?
[03:55:19] <ciri> Panel lined, painting in select areas, it's got nothing to do this.
[03:55:21] <Konomi> www.climax.com/chromas%20-internet
[03:55:24] <chromas> should make my own detector I guess
[03:55:32] <crutchy> http://www.climax.com
[03:55:37] <chromas> http://porn.cum
[03:55:52] <chromas> That's the proper tld, not .xx
[03:55:52] <crutchy> yup, dead alright
[03:55:53] <chromas> xxx
[03:56:02] <monopoly> test
[03:56:26] <chromas> http://www.climax.com
[03:56:33] <crutchy> ~rainbow hi konomi :-)
[03:56:35] <exec> 00,04h00,07i00,08 00,09k00,12o00,02n00,06o00,04m00,07i00,08 00,09:00,12-00,02)
[03:56:37] <chromas> pos
[03:56:45] <chromas> ~rainboy monopoly is fired!
[03:56:50] <chromas> ~define rainboy
[03:56:55] <crutchy> lol
[03:56:57] <exec> rainboy: unable to find definition
[03:57:00] <crutchy> aww
[03:57:08] <arti> climax would be a decent name for an ISP
[03:57:19] <crutchy> ~define add rainboy chromas' typo of rainbow
[03:57:20] <arti> Did your bandwidth just CLIMAX(TM)?
[03:57:22] <exec> [urbandictionary] add rainboy chromas' typo of rainbow: lang='en-US' prefix='og: http://ogp.me'> window.NREUM||(NREUM={});NREUM.info={"beacon":"beacon-2.newrelic.com","errorBeacon":"bam.nr-data.net","licenseKey":"af402a03f5","applicationID":"3690460",...
[03:57:23] <monopoly> Title: The Open Graph protocol
[03:57:34] <crutchy> wow
[03:57:41] <crutchy> ~define-add rainboy chromas' typo of rainbow
[03:57:42] <exec> definition for term "rainboy" set to "chromas' typo of rainbow"
[03:58:05] <chromas> I guess it's just that one site
[03:58:24] <Konomi> oh no
[03:58:34] <crutchy> wonder if i need to escape the apostrophe
[03:58:48] <Konomi> I really wonder if I should make my nick highlighting code strip colour so it actually matches that
[03:58:51] <Konomi> nahhhh
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[03:59:27] <crutchy> nick highlighting code?
[03:59:37] <Konomi> I use custom code in irssi for it
[03:59:37] <crutchy> lol @ monopoly
[03:59:42] <Konomi> cause irssi kinda blows at it
[03:59:45] <crutchy> ooh
[03:59:53] <Konomi> I probably should go weechat sometime I just cna;t be bvothered porting everything
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[04:00:18] <crutchy> wow that was quick finhgering monopoly
[04:00:26] <chromas> premature recooperation
[04:00:38] <arti> heh
[04:00:49] <crutchy> maybe its just faking
[04:01:12] <chromas> oh it's getting a 403 forbidden
[04:01:21] <crutchy> /query headache
[04:01:22] <chromas> Need to fake firefux I guess
[04:01:26] <arti> too funny
[04:01:36] <arti> did it just do its hair?
[04:01:58] <crutchy> its doing starfish wondering what color to paint the ceiling
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[04:02:38] <chromas> ~time do whatever you want just don't get it in my hair
[04:02:40] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Monday, 9 June 2014, 02:02:39 am
[04:02:40] <exec> [Google] Francine Smith: Hello MasterCard do you take payment in the form of adventure, hello ... It's pot luck, so bring whatever you want. ... Francine Smith: This man's given me something you haven't for a long time. ..... Just don't get it in my hair.
[04:03:08] <chromas> hey we need a function just for that
[04:03:13] <chromas> finding quotes
[04:03:39] * chromas whips out his…whip
[04:03:43] <crutchy> monopoly->addModule(quote-stuff)
[04:04:25] <chromas> I did have an exec script to send you but I couldn't get the link scraping right and then gave up on it
[04:04:36] * chromas requests a helmet
[04:04:41] <crutchy> can you pilfer?
[04:04:48] <chromas> Or I could write it in python!!
[04:05:08] <crutchy> definitions.php, time.php and feeds.php have scraping functionality
[04:05:40] <crutchy> there's also some lib.php functions that can help with scraping
[04:05:58] <crutchy> extract_get($url,$name)
[04:06:02] <chromas> I think I got lost in my own code
[04:06:44] * chromas has a harder time finding the browser on the taskbar after switching to palemoon
[04:07:08] <crutchy> strip_first_tag(&$html,$tag) strip_headers($response) wget_ssl($host,$uri) strip_all_tag(&$html,$tag)
[04:07:12] <crutchy> etc
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[04:10:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Escape The Room Game! In Meatspace - http://sylnt.us - simulated-quests-for-freedom
[04:10:52] <chromas> Ah, they found the "s"; that's one of the clues
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[04:12:49] <crutchy> Bender: s/Room Game!/FBI/
[04:12:49] <SedBot> <crutchy> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Escape The FBI In Meatspace - http://sylnt.us - simulated-quests-for-freedom
[04:13:47] <chromas> crutchy: s/I/I Warning of Doom!/
[04:14:05] <chromas> crutchy: s/FBI/FBI Warning of Doom!/
[04:14:11] <chromas> SedBot failure
[04:14:11] * SedBot is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[04:14:14] <crutchy> hehe
[04:14:18] <monopoly> Title: FoobarBazbot/sedbot · GitHub
[04:14:30] <crutchy> you have performed an illegal operation and will be hunted down and tortured
[04:14:43] <crutchy> s/tortured/enhanced interrogated/
[04:14:43] <SedBot> <crutchy> you have performed an illegal operation and will be hunted down and enhanced interrogated
[04:15:26] <chromas> Nah that's the CIA, you know, the statistics beureau
[04:15:36] <chromas> can't spell and spell checker ain't workin'
[04:15:50] <chromas> FBI is bust down your door and shoot your dog
[04:19:06] <chromas> crutchy: do you have fpc installed?
[04:19:17] <crutchy> dunno
[04:19:32] <crutchy> jared@debian:~$ fpc
[04:19:33] <crutchy> bash: fpc: command not found
[04:19:37] <chromas> k
[04:19:38] <ciri> Some dude was 34 already? Dayum.
[04:19:40] <arti> fruity pickle cherrios
[04:20:44] <chromas> debian++
[04:20:44] <Bender> karma - debian: 4
[04:20:59] <chromas> archlinux++
[04:20:59] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 4
[04:28:24] <crutchy> my wife has discovered rofl
[04:28:52] <chromas> With the copter attachment?
[04:30:01] <crutchy> nah, just the offensive fortune addon
[04:30:17] <chromas> lol
[04:30:20] <arti> "discovered" more like "hey babe, scope this out!"
[04:30:26] <chromas> Looking through your code?
[04:31:28] <crutchy> shes kind of geeky, but more social and thinks WoW is cooler than programming
[04:31:55] <chromas> Maybe she'd be more interested if you showed her ocaml
[04:32:00] <chromas> or haskell
[04:32:04] <crutchy> lol
[04:32:21] <chromas> declarative. She tells it what she wants, then it figures out how to do it
[04:32:23] <crutchy> or brainfuck
[04:32:33] <crutchy> mindfuck
[04:32:41] <crutchy> whatever its called
[04:32:41] <chromas> as long as it involves fuck
[04:32:49] <crutchy> definitely
[04:32:53] <crutchy> hmm
[04:33:11] * crutchy wonders what is 'fuck'
[04:33:30] <SpallsHurgenson> !define fuck
[04:33:41] <crutchy> ~define-add fuck something you do before getting married
[04:33:42] <exec> definition for term "fuck" set to "something you do before getting married"
[04:33:50] <chromas> exec: s/.*/What you did before installing the ring/
[04:33:51] <SedBot> <chromas> <exec> What you did before installing the ring
[04:33:51] <crutchy> ~define fuck
[04:33:52] <exec> [soylent] fuck: something you do before getting married
[04:34:55] <crutchy> debian++
[04:34:55] <Bender> karma - debian: 5
[04:35:09] <crutchy> coffee++
[04:35:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 212
[04:35:17] <chromas> chocolate++
[04:35:17] <Bender> karma - chocolate: 2
[04:35:30] <chromas> !karma.import(##)
[04:35:48] <crutchy> the body can survive without chocolate, but not without coffee
[04:35:53] <crutchy> lol
[04:36:02] <chromas> that's not what she said
[04:36:49] <crutchy> !Bender->combine(#Soylent,##).activate(MegaBender);
[04:38:36] <Landon> !koffie
[04:38:37] * Bender schenkt een kopje koffie wiener melange in voor Landon
[04:38:38] <crutchy> !MegaBender->use(UltraKarmaDestructoSuperAtomizer).against(chromas);
[04:39:55] <crutchy> hair_in_coffee--
[04:39:55] <Bender> karma - hair_in_coffee: -1
[04:40:47] <chromas> hairpie++
[04:40:47] <Bender> karma - hairpie: 1
[04:41:38] * chromas finds it amusing that in the "cendsored syndicated" version of Family Guy, "hair pie" is changed to "the hair in her pie"
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[04:42:27] <crutchy> lol... censoring can make stuff even more dirty :-P
[04:42:36] <chromas> it was already dirty
[04:42:58] <crutchy> ~define pie
[04:43:01] <exec> [stoacademy] pie: Larish Pie - A traditional Bajoran pie.
[04:43:05] <chromas> ~define hair pie
[04:43:07] <exec> [stoacademy] hair pie: chair - An object with 4 legs,a base, and a backrest on which some can sit.
[04:43:15] <crutchy> ??
[04:43:19] <chromas> what is this
[04:43:26] <chromas> new source, eh
[04:43:35] <crutchy> hmm i think i might change order
[04:43:39] <crutchy> ]yeah
[04:43:51] <chromas> could also have some wait to prioritise
[04:44:18] <chromas> like ~defined phrase we wnat the dirty definition of
[04:44:35] <crutchy> ~define-sources
[04:44:36] <exec> definition sources in order of preference: www.urbandictionary.com > www.wolframalpha.com > www.stoacademy.com
[04:44:37] <monopoly> Title: Wolfram|Alpha: Computational Knowledge Engine
[04:44:45] <chromas> only one link, monopoly?
[04:44:55] <crutchy> ~define pie
[04:44:57] <exec> [urbandictionary] pie: 1. A food item consisting of a fruit buried under a crust and baked in an oven. Served in slices. Very popular at parties. 2. A word that can be used to answer any question known to man, and can be an...
[04:45:06] <crutchy> lol
[04:45:06] <chromas> ~define hair pie
[04:45:08] <exec> [urbandictionary] hair pie: A hairy pussy, often with the bush in it's natural wedge shape. Not intended as a derogatory term. See: alcove, bat cave, bear trap, bearded clam, bearded taco, beaver, bermuda triangle, box, buck...
[04:45:24] <crutchy> lol bearded clam
[04:45:25] <chromas> ~define bear trap
[04:45:27] <exec> [urbandictionary] Bear Trap: When performing 69 for a girl, the man sneezes thereby startling the girl who bites down on the defenseless wang as a reflex.
[04:45:36] <crutchy> lmao
[04:45:38] <arti> wow
[04:45:39] <pbnjoe> buck? that's a weird one
[04:45:58] <pbnjoe> unless that's not the whole thing
[04:46:18] <crutchy> ~define buck
[04:46:20] <exec> [urbandictionary] buck: 1.v: slang for the act of fighting 2.v: slang for disagree'ing and feeling angry towards something 3.n: slang for a young black man 4.n: a male deer 5.n: slang for money
[04:46:37] <pbnjoe> k, not the whole thing
[04:47:19] <crutchy> ~define seven of nine
[04:47:22] <exec> [urbandictionary] Seven of Nine: Character in Star Trek: Voyager played by Jeri Ryan from 1997-2001. She used to be a Borg, but The Doctor got rid of a lot of her implants. However, she was assimilated as a little girl, so parts of h...
[04:47:33] <crutchy> hmm
[04:47:42] <arti> even that part?
[04:47:50] <arti> not the flapcircuits
[04:47:53] <crutchy> prolly a lot of stuff wouldn't even get to stoacademy now
[04:47:56] <crutchy> lol
[04:48:02] <crutchy> ~define flapcircuits
[04:48:04] <ciri> ~Define emo.
[04:48:09] <exec> flapcircuits: unable to find definition
[04:48:10] * arti chuckles
[04:48:33] <crutchy> ~define-add flapcircuits seven of nine's naughty bit
[04:48:35] <exec> definition for term "flapcircuits" set to "seven of nine's naughty bit"
[04:49:30] <crutchy> unfortunately ciri, exec doesn't do mixed case.... although it could :-P
[04:50:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, what you lot been up do whilst i was teaching a wee kiddo the joys of making copper acetate crystals?
[04:51:38] <crutchy> defining bear trap
[04:51:45] <chromas> Flipping naughty bits
[04:52:22] <crutchy> and registering them in cache
[04:52:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds productive enough for me
[04:54:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> tomorrow i tackle unicode. tomorrow i defeat unicode. or get frustrated and start drinking early. you know, one of the two.
[04:54:36] <crutchy> ~q
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[04:54:40] <arti> unicorn
[04:55:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> unicorns are easy compared to perl unicode
[04:57:56] <arti> yeah, wild perl unicodes are something
[05:05:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, sleep now. need a brain recharge to slog through all the pain tomorrow.
[05:07:34] <crutchy> cya TheMightyBuzzard
[05:08:26] <chromas> perl dreams
[05:09:35] <crutchy> with perl necklaces for everyone
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[05:30:09] <arti> funny how pearls are wedding gifts
[05:35:40] <SpallsHurgenson> I have a headache; anyone have a trepanning awl?
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[05:41:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Virginia DMV Orders Uber, Lyft to Stop Operations - http://sylnt.us - if-we-can't-tax-it-you-can't-do-it
[05:41:47] <crutchy> oh this one's too easy
[05:42:09] <crutchy> Bender: s/Virginia/Vagina/
[05:42:10] <SedBot> <crutchy> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Vagina DMV Orders Uber, Lyft to Stop Operations - http://sylnt.us - if-we-can't-tax-it-you-can't-do-it
[05:46:53] <crutchy> did someone fuck around with the slashcode inbox templates?
[05:47:21] <crutchy> links to messages don't seem to be working. i can't read messages
[05:48:49] <crutchy> hmm actually it might just be the layout
[05:49:34] <crutchy> iced_coffee++
[05:49:34] <Bender> karma - iced_coffee: 1
[07:20:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Eugene Goostman" Passes Turing Test - http://sylnt.us - is-now-applying-for-college
[07:23:54] <ar> > Eugene managed to convince 33% of the human judges that it was human
[07:24:04] <ar> i just hope that they had more than 3 judges
[07:34:22] <crutchy> how do we know the judges were human? did they pass the test too?
[07:35:28] * crutchy wonders if ciri would pass a turing test
[07:36:17] <crutchy> it could start with "hi, i'm ciri... i'm a troll and a retard... go easy on me" :-P
[07:36:38] <ar> "ciri"?
[07:37:05] <crutchy> erm
[07:37:09] <crutchy> ciri
[07:37:15] <crutchy> !decide
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[07:38:57] <crutchy> !decide troll retard
[07:38:59] <ciri> The roll of the dice picks: retard.
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[07:39:55] <crutchy> x0908d3b2: is your connection ipv6?
[07:40:30] <crutchy> hmm probably lurking with auto-reconnect
[07:41:05] <crutchy> damn php sockets
[07:42:06] <ar> crutchy: "j" isn't a legal hex character
[07:42:26] <crutchy> i think addresses are obfuscated
[07:42:34] <ar> oh, right
[07:44:01] <crutchy> hi ar :-)
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[07:47:34] <arti> that would be a sweet hack otherwise
[07:47:41] <arti> "yeah, sir i can't block the ip address."
[07:49:03] * crutchy salutes all software fags in the room
[07:49:14] <crutchy> how you doin mate?
[07:49:33] <arti> pretty good, preppin some stuff for work tomorrow
[07:49:46] <arti> trying to think what'll be best to demo the svg stuff with
[07:50:05] <arti> how about you?
[07:50:06] <crutchy> you don't happen to know where php would stack a sock file from fsockopen by any chance?
[07:50:11] <crutchy> i'm ok
[07:50:13] <arti> tmp?
[07:50:16] <crutchy> public holiday today
[07:50:30] <arti> oh yeah? that's awesome, makes for a short week too
[07:50:51] <ar> i've explicitly asked for my obfuscated address to match my real revdns
[07:51:03] <ar> oh
[07:51:12] <ar> but i'd need to identify with nickserv
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[07:55:02] <crutchy> is svg the vagina jquery stuff you mentioned?
[07:55:19] <arti> yes
[07:55:36] <arti> using svg data and animating it client side
[07:56:36] <crutchy> can it do 3d transformations?
[07:56:48] <arti> uh a different library can handle the translations
[07:56:58] <arti> i'm working on making that happen
[07:57:44] <crutchy> for 2d i guess something like that liney shit during the credits of bourne supremacy?
[07:59:23] <arti> yeah you could do something like that
[07:59:40] <arti> probably easier with webgl
[07:59:54] <crutchy> just youtubed it. little bit more 3d than i remembered, but a basic 2d would look ok too
[08:00:06] <arti> ditto
[08:02:01] <crutchy> hmm can't find sock file
[08:02:06] <arti> oh yes
[08:02:12] <crutchy> i'll try some more google
[08:03:45] <chromas> crutchy: it's the result of fsockopen
[08:03:49] <chromas> that is the socket
[08:03:53] <arti> http://stackoverflow.com
[08:03:54] <monopoly> Title: Reusing PHP Unix Socket Files - Stack Overflow
[08:04:53] <crutchy> arti, came across that so. i could use socket_*
[08:05:27] <crutchy> chromas, i think that just gives a resource id
[08:05:41] <chromas> that's the socket handle
[08:07:47] <crutchy> i got
[08:07:48] <chromas> So when you want to restart, don't do socket_close or anything, only pass it to the next instance, then have that one skip socket_connect and all that
[08:07:49] <crutchy> Resource id #11
[08:07:49] <ciri> Seems to be moderately unpoor by working, i recieved it as much as i can make a full restart befor attempting to contact a hutt whose.
[08:08:09] <crutchy> tried that
[08:08:15] <arti> so what are you trying to do here?
[08:08:18] <arti> just reuse the same thing?
[08:08:21] <crutchy> gave invalid resource error
[08:08:23] <chromas> Be able to restart without losing the connection
[08:08:25] <crutchy> yeah
[08:08:34] <arti> "restart"
[08:08:49] <chromas> call a new (possibly updated) exec and hand the already-connected socket over to it
[08:08:50] <arti> sorry, i'm coming in the middle of this
[08:08:53] <arti> aaah
[08:08:54] <crutchy> exec can restart from irc but atm must reconnect
[08:09:09] <arti> hmmm, that's an interesting idea
[08:09:25] <chromas> But apparently php doesn't give you the real socket
[08:09:25] <crutchy> chomas' idea
[08:09:32] <crutchy> :-)
[08:09:34] <arti> well then, you need to make it more modular
[08:10:11] <arti> so the irc connection bit is one part, one script, and the event processing function is called from another file
[08:10:13] <arti> which is updated
[08:10:47] <crutchy> that's mostly what exec is atm
[08:11:15] <crutchy> prolly not critical to restart without reconnect, but would be cool
[08:11:20] * arti nods
[08:11:34] <arti> since you're working on it so much ,it comes up pretty frequently
[08:11:43] <arti> watch, once you do implement it. you won't need to restart it hardly ever
[08:11:50] <crutchy> lol
[08:12:25] <crutchy> already found that, but an irc restart would be handy for running on my web server
[08:12:40] <arti> you have an irc server on it?
[08:12:51] <crutchy> not atm
[08:12:58] <arti> half the fun is setting up services
[08:13:11] <arti> i enjoy setting stuff up more than really doing stuff with it
[08:16:59] <chromas> hm php socket functions are weird
[08:18:17] <ar> php is weird
[08:18:31] <ar> the fact that people are still using php is even weirder
[08:18:49] <arti> yeah, same with C
[08:19:02] <arti> it's almost like it's everywhere
[08:19:03] <chromas> True. It's probably because of getoshitties and angelfire and stuff
[08:19:42] <ar> arti: except that with C you know that you're getting into the near-bare-metal-land
[08:19:50] <chromas> pascal++
[08:19:50] <Bender> karma - pascal: 2
[08:20:13] <arti> and with php you don't?
[08:20:28] <chromas> Yeah, with php, you don't know that you are
[08:21:08] <ar> arti: and php tries to delude you that it's a high-level scripting language when in fact it's a thin wrapper around C functions, giving you the performance of other scripting languages and safety/convenience of C
[08:21:24] <chromas> crutchy: you could rewrite exec in Delphi
[08:21:36] <arti> chromas: he's not running windows :P
[08:22:02] <chromas> fpc then
[08:22:04] <arti> convenience of c
[08:22:09] <chromas> Too bad gpc is dead
[08:22:30] <arti> lazarus?
[08:22:40] <chromas> only he if wants a gui
[08:22:49] <chromas> though you don't need it for gtk/qt
[08:22:54] <crutchy> a gooey
[08:23:02] <chromas> in visualbasic
[08:23:20] <crutchy> or vba... in microsoft access
[08:23:42] <arti> i kinda miss the melissa days
[08:23:58] <arti> oh what fun it was to put a doc on the desktop called "mypasswords"
[08:24:10] <chromas> I'm sure Linux desktops have all kind of holes in them waiting to be found
[08:24:21] <chromas> KDE, Gnome, systemd
[08:24:41] <crutchy> windows is like a malware honeypot
[08:24:46] <arti> just use something more obscure
[08:25:08] <crutchy> if/when it goes away more effort will focus on linux
[08:25:10] <ar> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[08:25:11] <monopoly> Title: 'THERE'S BEEN A MURRRDER!' Plod probe Street View 'slaying' • The Register
[08:25:11] <chromas> roll your own
[08:25:25] <ar> use DWM
[08:25:43] <arti> i like the shots of the google vehicles taking out deer or witnessing collisions
[08:25:52] <ar> it's so small and featureless, it can't have security issues
[08:26:01] <chromas> just have x.org start with firefox in place of init :D
[08:26:07] <arti> there must be some off by one bs around there somewhere
[08:26:14] <crutchy> might just disable the 'quick' parameter for ~restart
[08:26:33] <chromas> there is a persistent socket option but I haven't tested it
[08:27:03] <chromas> ~php pfsockopen
[08:27:10] <arti> pffff
[08:27:15] <ar> chromas: i had an initrd that started X11 with xterm instead of messing with any bootsplash-alike POS
[08:27:18] <chromas> /summon exec
[08:27:23] <ar> chromas: it… worked
[08:27:51] <chromas> it should; in fact, all the distros I've tried have that as a session option
[08:28:04] <chromas> well, within x, not initrd
[08:28:17] <chromas> Was it zuper fast?
[08:29:14] <ar> it booted, on my old laptop (ThinkPad X300 - core2duo 1.2GHz, 4G of ram), in under 6 seconds from bootloader to kdm
[08:29:17] <ar> (yes, kdm)
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[08:30:14] <crutchy> i'll just add #soylent to the init channels and restart and see if it works
[08:30:15] <ar> (plain systemd boot was giving me something like 1.5-2s from bootloader to kdm)
[08:30:17] <ciri> Bada55 is a boot sector, though. If you get to be a better feel for him to hell!
[08:30:40] <crutchy> ~restart
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[08:31:12] <crutchy> yay
[08:31:28] <crutchy> doesn't take a huge amount of time to restart
[08:32:14] <swiss> girls are too much work
[08:32:18] <arti> here's how you market it:
[08:32:28] <arti> slower means more powerful
[08:32:36] <arti> weight is a sign of reliability /snatch
[08:32:48] <arti> swiss, most relationships are
[08:32:55] <arti> well, not 'too' much, but they're work
[08:33:11] <chromas> it's why Jesus inverted the internet
[08:33:18] <chromas> s/rt/nt/
[08:33:18] <SedBot> <chromas> it's why Jesus invented the blagonet
[08:33:28] <arti> all that having to wait for your turn to talk
[08:33:52] <arti> personally, i like to just trap someone off of the street, if you cut their food ration in half, they'll listen
[08:33:52] <chromas> Not that I wanted to say anything; it's just that my ears are getting numb
[08:34:08] <arti> chromas, when you do coke youre supposed to snort it
[08:34:47] <swiss> arti: miine is way moody right now
[08:35:04] <arti> this is an excellent time for jokes
[08:35:04] <swiss> mostly because she has a history degree and can't get a job in the field
[08:35:39] <arti> where would you use one of these degrees?
[08:35:39] <crutchy> first thing you learn in husband school is "yes dear"
[08:35:47] <swiss> arti: museum curation, teaching
[08:35:54] <swiss> she wants to do the former moreso
[08:35:55] <arti> isn't curation more of an art thing?
[08:36:01] <swiss> also research things
[08:36:02] <arti> art history, i guess
[08:36:10] <swiss> that would be for art museums
[08:36:13] * arti used to work with a girl who studied that
[08:36:16] <crutchy> curation is the art of curing
[08:36:23] <swiss> she wants to work at the national library stuffs
[08:36:24] <arti> crutchy, oh like a doctor
[08:36:31] <arti> swiss: i want a car that drives to the moon
[08:36:37] <swiss> arti: i know, right?
[08:36:52] <swiss> the thing is, she's had the opportunity to intern there, and even got an interview
[08:36:56] <arti> so, well, get something else rolling and keep ears/eyes open
[08:37:10] <arti> it's a tough market out there for young peeps
[08:37:21] <swiss> but she has this "i am qualified therefore you should hire me" air when she talks about her stuff
[08:37:38] <crutchy> ah so she's female
[08:37:44] <arti> crutchy, more like educated :P
[08:37:57] <swiss> and i'm pretty sure she borked the interview by not being friendly and being too stuck in "I am the one who is right here"
[08:38:09] <arti> i worked with someone who was extremely proud she went to school, and did web stuff that was mostly learned on the job.
[08:38:39] <arti> interviewing is a skill too
[08:38:56] <crutchy> maybe she went well at the interview but just didn't get the job
[08:39:02] <arti> it's a good sign she got an interview though
[08:39:14] <crutchy> sometimes even an awesome interview doesn't get the job
[08:39:15] <arti> it's like dating, it's a numbers game
[08:39:34] <arti> keep trying and don't get discouraged
[08:39:45] <crutchy> the more you fuck the more child allowance you pay?
[08:39:50] <ar> i find interviews and getting a good job easier than dating ;_;
[08:39:50] <crutchy> ahh
[08:40:38] <arti> ar, just meet them online
[08:40:51] <swiss> crutchy: no, she came out acting like the interviewer was a total bitch
[08:40:56] <swiss> which is a sign you fucked up the interview
[08:41:13] <swiss> ar: me too
[08:41:32] <arti> swiss, is she attractive?>
[08:41:40] <arti> women can hate on other women for being pretty
[08:41:52] <swiss> reasonably so... but not exceptionally so
[08:41:57] <swiss> 6 or so at best
[08:42:13] <arti> maybe the interviewer was like "nuh uh"
[08:42:41] <swiss> she's spent her whole life doing education (on her parent's dime) and is very proud of her education... she's nearly finished her masters, but fucked up on the final exams and has to redo them in the fall
[08:42:49] * chromas wonders if there's an official lookup table for numerical ratings
[08:43:05] <arti> http://bash.org
[08:43:05] <monopoly> Title: QDB: Quote #14973
[08:43:07] <swiss> but no matter what, she has no reason to take out her problems on me
[08:43:51] <arti> it'll pass man, sounds like some misdirection
[08:43:56] <swiss> I don't need tons of moodiness that bitches at me when I'm helping (doing things she asked help with, not just trying to help randomly) and then acts like I ignored her entirely
[08:44:06] <swiss> meh, been going on for nearly a month now
[08:44:08] <arti> i remember my buddy's wife would totally take it out on him when the child bit her when feeding
[08:44:38] <ar> arti: /50
[08:44:41] <ar> whoops, nvm
[08:44:42] <arti> swiss, shit, maybe it's that time of the year.
[08:44:49] <swiss> ?
[08:44:54] <arti> period month
[08:45:02] <arti> it's like a leap year,
[08:45:02] <swiss> lol
[08:45:21] <chromas> ~define string week
[08:45:26] <arti> that's too funny
[08:45:29] <exec> [stoacademy] string week: stringent - Strict or precise
[08:45:38] <arti> and here i am with a lot of experience and not many credentials
[08:46:07] <arti> i wouldn't mind working at a bank tbh
[08:46:15] <arti> i'm all about the AC
[08:46:20] <arti> fuck hot mops
[08:46:42] <arti> lol "new internet pickup line! "Girl, you're so hot your file extension should be .fap!""
[08:46:43] <ciri> Sedbot: s/ / ciri /g. "Comcast offers unlimited internet connections * 2 internet connections.
[08:46:59] <swiss> working at a bank is nice if you work in the right area
[08:47:03] <arti> i rather like "is your name google? because you've got everything i'm searching for"
[08:47:14] <arti> swiss, with the right amount of chemistry everything is dandy
[08:47:57] * arti also knows people who are still in school, 10 years on
[08:48:04] <arti> moar degrees
[08:48:21] <swiss> seriously
[08:48:30] <arti> yup, presently exploring stagemanagement
[08:48:32] <swiss> and she acts like she's above some jobs and stuff
[08:48:55] <arti> has she worked before?
[08:48:58] <swiss> i'm like "My job I took was $10/hour, and he would have me work nights and weekends"
[08:49:03] <swiss> only retail
[08:49:04] <arti> btw how old is she?
[08:49:06] <swiss> 25
[08:49:21] <arti> i know a dude who hadn't worked until he was 29
[08:49:30] <arti> blew my mind.
[08:49:37] <arti> that's a grip of experience missing man
[08:49:51] <swiss> like, my parents are pretty set in life, and they paid for lots of my stuff... but I broke off from them ASAP when I could pay for my own stuff
[08:50:05] <arti> well earning your own keep is empowering
[08:50:12] <swiss> she says with her mouth that she wants to do that, but then her actions are the opposite
[08:50:19] <arti> and you respect what you buy with it
[08:50:33] <swiss> like she wants to earn extra money, but no desire to actually be self sufficient on it, or even attempt to be
[08:50:54] <swiss> called me all panicked when she lost her dad's credit card and he was saying he wasn't going to give her another one
[08:50:59] <arti> "do you want to do it, or do you wanna wanna do it"
[08:51:13] <swiss> of course she just cried to him more/got her mom to cry to him too and got another card
[08:51:24] <swiss> and *never* acted thankful for it at all
[08:51:24] <arti> well that works until they're about 35
[08:51:38] <swiss> he has paid for both cars she's owned
[08:51:48] <swiss> and she bitched/bitches about both of them
[08:51:59] <swiss> "They're too big, they're hard to drive, etc"
[08:52:10] <arti> first world problems lol
[08:52:17] <swiss> I PAID FOR MY OWN CAR AT 17
[08:52:31] <arti> fun fact, my first car was free. it was a gift from the neighbors lol
[08:52:36] <swiss> I pay for my own insurance!
[08:52:43] <swiss> I pay for my own gas!
[08:52:44] <arti> 79 chevy malibu. wagon with bench seats, god that thing was awesome
[08:52:52] <swiss> and I did all that when I was working a $10/hour job!
[08:53:26] <arti> can you imagine bankrolling that?
[08:53:29] <swiss> the only thing she's paying is a student loan she took out to go to australia without her parent's knowledge
[08:53:33] * arti is glad he doesn't have offspring
[08:53:57] <arti> nothing like some secured debt
[08:54:32] <arti> well, sounds like a fun life
[08:54:49] <arti> i wouldn't mind going back to school
[08:54:52] <arti> no work, just school
[08:55:37] <arti> http://bash.org heh
[08:55:38] <monopoly> Title: QDB: Quote #102169
[08:56:27] <swiss> i don't want to go back to school
[08:56:30] <swiss> too many idiots there
[08:56:37] <arti> lol wait until you get out
[08:56:45] <swiss> i'm already out
[08:56:55] <arti> if you get an opportunity to interview people, it's eye opening
[08:56:57] <swiss> at least out here people understand a bit of responsibility
[08:57:05] <swiss> oh, i don't want to interview people
[08:57:05] <swiss> ew
[08:57:20] <arti> sifting through, you find some resumes, then you call
[08:57:44] <arti> stuff goes well, then you weed out the ones who can't talk or do basic stuff
[08:58:08] <arti> "yeah this is a site i worked on." you designed this? "well no, it's a template"
[08:58:49] <arti> anyway, it should give you some encouragement is all i'm saying
[08:59:10] <arti> heck, you'll even find a nice fit and then the person might be a total jerk
[09:03:02] * arti refills the fritos dish
[09:08:11] <swiss> lol
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[10:30:43] <Konomi> ~howler monkeys
[10:59:55] <crutchy> hi konomi :_)
[11:00:01] <Konomi> hey
[11:00:06] <Konomi> wow you did it differently
[11:00:24] <crutchy> i punched myself in the nose
[11:01:01] <Konomi> >.<
[11:01:59] <crutchy> whatcha up tothis fine monday evening?
[11:03:18] <Konomi> reading comics
[11:05:04] <Konomi> freezing my arse off also came to mind suddenly
[11:05:20] <crutchy> hmm that's no good
[11:05:28] <crutchy> cold outside here too
[11:05:51] <crutchy> ~weather latrobe valley regional airport
[11:05:54] <exec> Weather for "latrobe valley regional airport" not found. Check spelling or try another nearby location.
[11:05:59] <crutchy> wtf?
[11:06:06] <crutchy> ~weather latrobe valley
[11:06:09] <exec> Weather for Morwell (latrobe Valley Airport), VIC, Australia at 2014-06-09 08:00:00 (UTC) ~ 1.1 hrs ago:
[11:06:10] <exec> temperature = 53.6°F (12°C) dewpoint = 51.1°F (10.6°C)
[11:06:10] <exec> barometric pressure = 1032.4 mb ~ change of 0.2 mb over past 3 hrs relative humdity = 91%
[11:06:10] <exec> wind speed = 4 mph (6.4 km/h) wind direction = 110°
[11:06:40] <Konomi> ~weather melbourne
[11:06:44] <exec> Weather for Melbourne Regional Office, VIC, Australia at 2014-06-09 08:00:00 (UTC) ~ 1.1 hrs ago:
[11:06:44] <exec> temperature = 56.8°F (13.8°C) dewpoint = 50.5°F (10.3°C)
[11:06:45] <exec> barometric pressure = 1031.6 mb ~ change of 0.1 mb over past 3 hrs relative humdity = 79%
[11:06:45] <exec> wind speed = (no data) wind direction = 0°
[11:06:46] <ciri> Karma - hair_in_coffee: -8.3 hrs relative humdity = 92.
[11:07:07] <Konomi> ehhhh
[11:07:43] <crutchy> u in melb?
[11:07:48] <Konomi> maybe
[11:07:49] <Konomi> ;p
[11:08:04] <crutchy> lol
[11:08:30] <crutchy> there's at least a couple of hours drive buffer at least
[11:08:37] <crutchy> to protect me :-P
[11:09:05] * crutchy gets out legos to build fortress just in case
[11:14:14] <crutchy> ~join #civ
[11:16:57] <crutchy> ~join #civ
[11:20:21] <crutchy> ~buckets-flush
[11:20:24] <exec> buckets flushed
[11:20:45] <Konomi> bucket bot
[11:20:57] <crutchy> ~restart
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[11:21:27] <crutchy> its as techo as i could come up with :-P
[11:22:54] <crutchy> dammit. stupid bot
[11:23:41] <crutchy> exec->loadModule(developerMindReading);
[11:25:03] <crutchy> ~join #civ
[11:25:05] <Konomi> ;p
[11:25:20] <Konomi> just introduce all the errors oyu made in your mind ya know
[11:28:04] <crutchy> this bug isn't too bad
[11:28:20] <crutchy> IRCiv is almost back on its feet :-D
[11:31:01] <crutchy> ~buckets-flush
[11:31:04] <exec> buckets flushed
[11:31:17] <crutchy> ~restart
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[11:32:12] * NCommander notes the piwik stats seem happier
[11:33:02] <Konomi> btw NCommander
[11:33:14] <Konomi> http auth requested:
[11:33:16] <Konomi> A username and password are being requested by https://stats.soylentnews.org. The site says: "Kerberos Login"
[11:34:42] <Konomi> iceweasel debug for the auth shows
[11:34:44] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[11:34:44] <NCommander> Konomi, on the main page?
[11:34:44] <monopoly> Title: Paste ofCode
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[11:35:55] <Konomi> yes
[11:35:58] <Konomi> and every page I think
[11:36:16] <Konomi> yep every page
[11:37:30] <NCommander> Konomi, what browser?
[11:37:47] <Konomi> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20140429 Firefox/24.0 Iceweasel/24.5.0
[11:38:04] <NCommander> Konomi, your ISP is doing something kinda funky which is preventing the VHOST from working
[11:38:16] <Konomi> wouldn'tbe noscript or something?
[11:38:18] <NCommander> (stats is a vhost on nitrogen)
[11:38:27] <NCommander> Hrm
[11:38:54] <NCommander> Konomi, can't reproduce with noscript
[11:39:02] <Konomi> doesn't happen in tor so confusing
[11:39:11] <NCommander> Konomi, its a problem with your ISP
[11:39:15] <Konomi> but I am not logged in there if it makes a diff
[11:39:27] <NCommander> Konomi, I'm seeing if I cna do something server side to migate it
[11:39:38] <Konomi> if it's the isp chrome should bug too checking it
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[11:39:55] <Konomi> nothing in chrome
[11:40:00] <NCommander> Konomi, the problem is the Hostname field isn't being set to the server
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[11:40:08] <NCommander> Which appears to default to chillax vs. stats
[11:40:37] <crutchy> i'm getting same in iceweasel
[11:40:53] <NCommander> Appears to be an issue with iceweasel then
[11:41:04] * NCommander notes it doesn't happen with Firefox
[11:41:07] <NCommander> crutchy, Konomi debugging
[11:41:08] <NCommander> Stand by
[11:41:17] <crutchy> i can't see the secret squirrel codez !!!
[11:42:09] * crutchy forgot about stats till konomi brought it up just then
[11:42:20] <Konomi> might be a cert error
[11:42:28] <Konomi> following it directly on iceweasel brings up the auth log
[11:42:37] <NCommander> Konomi, crutchy: do a Ctrl-F5
[11:42:37] <Konomi> following it directly in chrome brings up0 an ssl error
[11:42:38] <Konomi> https://stats.soylentnews.org
[11:42:40] * crutchy will try in windoze (gathp!)
[11:42:44] <NCommander> I just modified the vhosts config
[11:42:48] <NCommander> Konomi, OH
[11:42:48] <crutchy> oky doky
[11:42:48] <NCommander> Crap
[11:42:54] <NCommander> You're using something to fore a HTTPS redirect
[11:42:55] <Konomi> still getting it
[11:43:02] <NCommander> You can't use HTTPS
[11:43:02] <NCommander> Crap
[11:43:05] <Konomi> yes https everywhere but that is not keyed to your side
[11:43:07] <NCommander> Hold on
[11:43:07] <Konomi> site
[11:43:11] <Konomi> there are no active filter rules for you
[11:43:23] <Konomi> disabling it
[11:43:29] <Konomi> still get the prompt
[11:43:35] <crutchy> lol yay!
[11:43:40] <NCommander> WOrking on it
[11:43:48] <Konomi> kk
[11:43:51] <crutchy> It works!
[11:43:51] <crutchy> This is the default web page for this server.
[11:43:51] <crutchy> The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet.
[11:43:56] <crutchy> :-D
[11:43:58] <ciri> $Time mst %a %m/%d/%y | %h:%m.
[11:43:59] <Konomi> wat
[11:44:24] <crutchy> stats.soylentnews.org in win7/chrome
[11:44:42] <NCommander> crutchy, http://stats.soylentnews.org is where it is
[11:44:42] <monopoly> Title: Piwik › Sign in
[11:44:58] * NCommander swears considerbaly
[11:45:23] <crutchy> yeah what moropory said
[11:45:47] <NCommander> Konomi, you must be using an extension to force the connection to https
[11:45:52] <Konomi> disabled it
[11:46:06] <Konomi> also tor uses https everywhere too
[11:46:08] <Konomi> was noerror there
[11:46:15] <NCommander> Konomi, that's extremely unfortunate
[11:46:22] <NCommander> Konomi, the last mile is decrypted
[11:46:23] <crutchy> konomi is running z/os in a win 3.1 vm
[11:46:26] <NCommander> Even when using the exit service
[11:46:31] <Konomi> I can try shot gunning until I find out which extension if any is at fault
[11:47:12] <Konomi> doing so momement
[11:47:55] <NCommander> Konomi, thanks. TO fix it properly, we're going to need a second IP address for nitrogen, I'll request it from Linode
[11:48:05] <Konomi> oh okay
[11:48:16] <Konomi> should I keep checking extensions or not bother?
[11:50:23] <crutchy> konomi, just go to http://stats.soylentnews.org
[11:50:24] <monopoly> Title: Piwik › Sign in
[11:50:45] <Konomi> shows up
[11:50:51] <NCommander> Konomi, I'd like to know which one it is so I can advise people to put a whitelist as a temporary measure
[11:50:52] <Konomi> its not https though
[11:50:56] <Konomi> okay
[11:50:59] <Konomi> continuing then
[11:51:11] <NCommander> Konomi, that box hosts multiple services. It has chillax (the staff slash) on HTTPS
[11:52:38] <Konomi> not good I am running out of extensions to disable and it stillis showing up x.x
[11:53:18] <Konomi> tryingv a fresh profile urk
[11:54:53] * NCommander is thinking
[11:54:58] <Konomi> fresh fprofile is clean
[11:55:02] <Konomi> trying a cache clean
[11:55:18] <crutchy> i'll make the cuppas
[11:56:09] <Konomi> cookies after that
[11:56:32] <Konomi> if I can't find anything after that I am stumped
[11:56:53] <Konomi> cache clear didn't work
[11:56:55] <Konomi> removinmg cookies
[11:57:18] <Konomi> still getting it....
[11:57:49] <Konomi> okay I logged out logged back in and now it is gone
[11:58:18] <Konomi> fix seems to be log out
[11:58:23] <Konomi> then log back in
[11:59:27] <NCommander> Konomi, I feel guilty having problem your access :-/
[11:59:37] <crutchy> https://stats.soylentnews.org gives me a login prompt in both iceweasel and win7/chrome
[11:59:52] <Konomi> urk really?
[11:59:58] <Konomi> try logging in and out a bunch of times crutchy
[12:00:03] <NCommander> er, feel guilty having broken your access
[12:00:13] <NCommander> crutchy, no, the problemis https doesn't work properly w/ vhosts
[12:00:31] <Konomi> oh...
[12:00:34] <NCommander> When you try and go SSL, you get redirected to chillax, which uses a CACert certificate.
[12:00:36] <crutchy> need a dispatch script or something
[12:00:36] <Konomi> now i can't stay logge din apparently
[12:00:41] <crutchy> i've used that in the past
[12:00:50] <Konomi> refresh shows me being logge dout
[12:01:04] <NCommander> Konomi, you're likely hitting the HTTP/HTTPS bug
[12:01:21] <NCommander> If you log in on HTTP, you are't logged in on HTTPS
[12:01:24] <NCommander> And via versus
[12:01:41] <Konomi> and now it stays logged in
[12:01:41] <crutchy> is there pretty dotty plotty things?
[12:01:43] * Konomi flips a table
[12:01:57] <crutchy> i like dotty plottys
[12:02:06] <crutchy> ~statsupdate
[12:02:10] <crutchy> !statsupdate
[12:02:19] <crutchy> !updatestats
[12:02:22] <Konomi> right logged in and outa bunch of times and it's working
[12:02:43] <NCommander> Konomi, great
[12:02:49] * NCommander needs a drink
[12:03:01] * NCommander is obviously a shitty sysadmin
[12:03:11] <Konomi> seems fixed
[12:03:24] <Konomi> did you change anything or was my browser having a case of the crazies
[12:03:38] <crutchy> sudo apt-get moo --make-awesome
[12:03:54] <crutchy> ~moo
[12:03:56] <exec> (__)
[12:03:56] <exec> (oo)
[12:03:57] <exec> /------\/
[12:03:57] <exec> / | ||
[12:03:58] <exec> * /\---/\
[12:03:59] <exec> ~~ ~~
[12:04:00] <exec> ...."Have you mooed today?"...
[12:04:09] <Konomi> no for I am human bean
[12:04:22] <NCommander> Konomi, I modified the vhost settings somewhat
[12:04:27] <Konomi> ah okay
[12:04:37] <NCommander> But I don't think it would have fixed your problem
[12:04:46] <crutchy> now it just auto logs in to kerberos as ncommader
[12:04:49] <crutchy> :-P
[12:04:51] * crutchy hides
[12:04:53] <Konomi> lawl
[12:05:24] <NCommander> crutchy, so you had the same problem with kerberos login on the mainpage?
[12:05:36] <crutchy> only on 443
[12:05:59] <crutchy> i got a piwik sign in page on http
[12:06:03] <NCommander> crutchy, var u=(("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https" : "http") + "://stats.soylentnews.org/piwik/";
[12:06:05] <NCommander> Fuck
[12:06:07] <ciri> Hah http://soylentnews.org
[12:06:10] <NCommander> Let me patch that slightly
[12:07:07] <crutchy> does that just redirect https to http?
[12:07:21] <crutchy> i can't read that ? if statement stuff form to save myself
[12:07:23] <NCommander> No, it appears to try and use the same protocol
[12:10:20] <NCommander> crutchy, can you check now?
[12:10:30] <NCommander> You should see an insecure element on HTTPS, but otherwise working
[12:12:06] <NCommander> crutchy, can you check on HTTPS now
[12:12:10] <NCommander> it should be worked around
[12:13:55] <NCommander> Are my messages not going through?
[12:13:57] <NCommander> crutchy, ping?
[12:14:24] <crutchy> kerberos login
[12:14:49] <NCommander> crutchy, ARGH
[12:14:50] <crutchy> win7/aurora(ff), win7/chrom & debian/iceweasel
[12:15:17] <NCommander> crutchy, make sure you ctrl-F5, I just pushed new code
[12:16:01] <crutchy> same, even after clearing all personal data
[12:16:40] <NCommander> crutchy, I can't reproduce here, evne on new profiel
[12:18:19] <crutchy> maybe its cos konomi and i are upside down
[12:18:57] <NCommander> crutchy, I'm going to get that second IP requested from linode ASAP
[12:19:03] <NCommander> As soon as I have a stable connection
[12:19:37] <crutchy> maybe if i go shave my whiskers and cook some pepper steak and then have another go it'll work
[12:20:21] * crutchy whispers sweet nothings to his pyewta
[12:21:20] * NCommander sighs
[12:21:22] <NCommander> Never easy
[12:21:48] * KonomiNetbook pats NCommander
[12:22:04] <NCommander> No, I'm frustated with myself
[12:22:11] <NCommander> Seems whenever I touch anything, I fucking break the world
[12:22:25] <KonomiNetbook> if you seen my coding you'd be okay with it ;p
[12:22:36] <KonomiNetbook> turst me I do far worse
[12:22:59] * NCommander is requesting an additional IP from Linode ATM
[12:27:46] <NCommander> KonomiNetbook, crutchy ticket is in for a second IPv4 address
[12:28:41] <KonomiNetbook> kk
[12:37:56] <KonomiNetbook> I wish newer mice had a more firm scroll wheel
[12:38:49] <crutchy> i prefer a nice firm pair of... err... potatoes
[12:39:23] <KonomiNetbook> I bet you do
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[13:00:01] <x0908d3b2> crutchy, im using Quassel in a server client configuration an the core is on a ipv6 capable server. An the outgoin connection on the server are preferably ipv6.
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[13:22:08] <NCommander> Konomi, crutchy: linode approved us for an additional IPv4 certificate :-)
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[13:23:04] <NCommander> Bytram|away, PM me your email address
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[13:28:24] <crutchy> waiting for beef stirfry with pepper sauce to finish cooking... :-D
[13:31:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rising Sea Levels Would Especially Threaten South Florida - http://sylnt.us - a-rising-tide-lifts-all-boats-but-not-so-good-for-property || Eye of Sauron Star Image Released by ESO - http://sylnt.us - I-see-you-looking-at-me
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[13:35:34] <crutchy> hi Subsentient
[13:35:46] <Subsentient> crutchy: hi bud
[13:36:02] <Subsentient> On my pentium 2 Panasonic Toughbook with SubLinux.
[13:36:06] <crutchy> made a restart for exec
[13:36:14] <Subsentient> Good! :^)
[13:36:28] <crutchy> not as quick as aqu4 though. does full restart and reconnect
[13:36:42] <Subsentient> Well so does aqu4
[13:37:01] <crutchy> exec slow to reconnect :-/
[13:37:04] <Subsentient> $restart
[13:37:04] <aqu4> Be right back.
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[13:37:17] <Subsentient> $time MST
[13:37:18] <aqu4> Mon 2014-06-09 04:37:17 AM MST
[13:37:22] <crutchy> ~restart
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[13:38:13] <Subsentient> crutchy: It seems to me, good chap, that using an interpreted language has taken it's toll on performance for your bot.
[13:38:40] <Subsentient> It took your bot 19 seconds to restart and it took mine 5.
[13:38:53] <Subsentient> And mine reloads the entire binary.
[13:39:06] <crutchy> prolly. though i do have a small delay in the main loop
[13:39:16] <crutchy> only 0.01 sec but might not help
[13:39:19] <Subsentient> 0.8secs for aqu4.
[13:39:27] <Subsentient> She does that for flood prevention
[13:39:58] <crutchy> mines just to stop cpu flogging
[13:40:08] <Subsentient> ahh
[13:40:25] <Subsentient> yeh I have a hard time getting any reading at all on aqu4's chip usage.
[13:40:34] <Subsentient> She uses, well, nothing. :^)
[13:40:56] <crutchy> with the usleep its not noticeable
[13:41:07] <Subsentient> She is a very small binary, and you also have to launch an interpreter to load the bot.
[13:41:17] <Subsentient> The interpreter will always be bigger than aqu4 as a whole.
[13:41:28] <crutchy> yeah. theres prolly a fair bit of overhead
[13:42:04] <Subsentient> crutchy: So as far as code goes, tabs or spaces?
[13:42:06] <crutchy> when i saw you restart the other day i thought that would be a handy feature
[13:42:11] <Subsentient> :^)
[13:42:18] <crutchy> i prefer spaces
[13:42:24] <Subsentient> I prefer tabs.
[13:42:25] <crutchy> i growd up on delphi though
[13:43:45] <crutchy> my code style is prolly much more bloated than yours. i expand everything out as much as i need to make it so i don't have to comment
[13:43:52] <Subsentient> Ahh. I use tabs because I can indent with the tab key even in something like mousepad or leafpad, and I can change the represented size of the tabs from 8 to 4 to 3. I generally work at 4 spaces size for my tabs, but it's still just a '\t'
[13:44:01] <Subsentient> I do that too.
[13:44:17] <crutchy> :-)
[13:44:37] <Subsentient> crutchy: I work hard for pretty code because I am tired of reading vomit.
[13:44:54] <crutchy> you might vomit at the sight of mine
[13:44:56] <Subsentient> If everyone wrote like me, I'd always be able to reverse engineer others' code.
[13:46:13] <Subsentient> crutchy: I am currently working on a utility to back up your entire disk's permissions and user/group ownerships.
[13:46:26] <crutchy> cool
[13:46:28] <Subsentient> It also has the ability to recursively reapply them.
[13:46:40] <crutchy> does it work over nfs?
[13:46:41] <ciri> Ok the game terrain, goblins work feveriously to stuff treasure into game and fauna, prior to adventurers entering the cave.
[13:46:46] <Subsentient> crutchy: Probably, yes.
[13:47:07] <Subsentient> It doesn't use any ext4 stuff if that's what you mean. It doesn't support selinux either, which is a feature to me.
[13:47:29] <crutchy> i have most troubles with permissions on nfs shares
[13:47:44] <Subsentient> ahh yeh then my utility may be of use to you.
[13:47:45] <crutchy> if i copy files the permissions sometimes get a bit screwy
[13:47:59] <crutchy> i think when uid doesn't match or some shit
[13:48:34] <Subsentient> yeh, well you will still need to have a working copy of the permissions. It's only good for restoring permissions that have been scrambled and/or altered.
[13:49:04] <Subsentient> I do that from time to time and now that I am on SubLinux and have no package manager, the need for something like that has become more urgent.
[13:49:06] <crutchy> i usually try to make sure same (human) users are mapped on nfs shares the same as on my work pyewta so all the permissions are the same (don't see uid:gid in nautilus instead of name:group)
[13:49:15] <crutchy> ah
[13:50:25] <crutchy> i got irciv working again sort of. now its not tied to a single channel
[13:51:28] <crutchy> wonder how NC went with his stats thingy
[13:52:04] <crutchy> lol nope still same
[13:52:44] <crutchy> !stats
[13:52:44] <Bender> creating stats for channel #Soylent (Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970)
[13:52:59] <Bender> stat results for #Soylent: crutchy: 20194, xlefay: 11596, MrBluze: 9593, arti: 9353, unknown: 9002, kobach: 7019, NCommander: 5989, michealpwalls: 5386, prospectacle: 4787, chromas: 3559, TheMightyBuzzard: 3273, Subsentient: 3041, n1: 2786, hax0rz: 2675, Landon: 2587, Konomi: 2577, Blackmoore: 2457, SpallsHurgenson: 2428, mattie_p: 2356, Khyber: 2209, janrinok: 2192, stderr: 2147, mrcoolbp: 2102, Ethanol-fueled: 2026, paulej72: 1937, Bender: 1861, b>
[13:53:44] <crutchy> that really doesn;t look right
[13:53:58] <aqu4> pukes on Bender
[13:54:10] * aqu4 pukes on Bender for my fail
[13:54:11] <ciri> Yep, bender dupes happen after an article is edited.
[13:54:28] <crutchy> how the fk can i be 20k whatevers
[13:54:45] <crutchy> arti, your stats thingy is borked
[13:54:50] <Subsentient> $seen khyber
[13:54:50] <aqu4> I'm afraid I don't remember anyone with the nick khyber, sorry.
[13:54:58] <Subsentient> $seen Khyber
[13:54:58] <aqu4> I'm afraid I don't remember anyone with the nick Khyber, sorry.
[13:55:12] <Subsentient> $seen ethanOl-FuElEd
[13:55:12] <aqu4> I last saw Ethanol-fueled at 2014-06-08 09:59:16 UTC in #soylent. Their most recent message is "Yo nigga, I catch you slippin'"
[13:57:14] <crutchy> $seen aqu4
[13:57:32] <Bytram> $seen Subsentient
[13:57:32] <crutchy> ~say $seen aqu4
[13:57:33] <aqu4> I last saw Subsentient at 2014-06-09 11:55:12 UTC in #soylent. Their most recent message is "$seen ethanOl-FuElEd"
[13:57:36] <exec> $seen aqu4
[13:57:36] <aqu4> I'm afraid I don't remember anyone with the nick aqu4, sorry.
[13:57:39] <Subsentient> $seen aqu4
[13:57:39] <aqu4> I'm afraid I don't remember anyone with the nick aqu4, sorry.
[13:58:02] <Bytram> $seen aqu4
[13:58:03] <aqu4> I'm afraid I don't remember anyone with the nick aqu4, sorry.
[13:58:16] <Bytram> $seen BYTRAM
[13:58:16] <aqu4> I last saw bytram at 2014-03-23 12:39:36 UTC in #Soylent. Their most recent message is "yup on both counts."
[13:58:26] <Bytram> $seen BYTRAM|AFK
[13:58:26] <aqu4> I last saw Bytram|afk at 2014-05-01 18:34:50 UTC in #soylent. Their most recent message is "hey gang! heading out for the day. have fun! cya later!"
[13:58:32] <Bytram> $seen BYTRAM|AWAY
[13:58:33] <aqu4> I last saw Bytram|away at 2014-06-07 14:47:09 UTC in #soylent. Their most recent message is "pong.. but just a minute.."
[13:58:49] <Subsentient> wait, I have a bad entry in the database
[13:58:49] <Subsentient> sec
[13:58:56] <Bytram> hrm, case INsensitive and follows alter-egos. :)
[13:59:22] <crutchy> ~say $seen crutchy|zzz
[13:59:25] <exec> $seen crutchy|zzz
[13:59:25] <aqu4> I last saw crutchy|zzz at 2014-06-07 22:41:30 UTC in #soylent. Their most recent message is "coffee++"
[13:59:35] <Subsentient> $seen bytram
[13:59:35] <aqu4> I last saw bytram at 2014-03-23 12:39:36 UTC in #Soylent. Their most recent message is "yup on both counts."
[13:59:35] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:59:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 213
[13:59:41] <crutchy> ~say $seen _
[13:59:43] <exec> $seen _
[13:59:43] <aqu4> I'm afraid I don't remember anyone with the nick _, sorry.
[13:59:49] <Subsentient> $quit
[13:59:50] <aqu4> See you around.
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[14:00:12] <Subsentient> $seen bytram
[14:00:12] <aqu4> I last saw Bytram at 2014-06-09 11:59:35 UTC in #soylent. Their most recent message is "coffee++"
[14:00:23] <Subsentient> Bytram: fixed it.
[14:00:32] <Subsentient> The database is very, very old.
[14:00:39] <Bytram> Subsentient: what was "wrong"?
[14:00:53] <Subsentient> it had case-sensitive entries from eons ago when $seen was still case sensitive
[14:01:00] <crutchy> it was infected with ciribsitis
[14:01:13] * Bytram washes hands vigorously
[14:02:18] <crutchy> eons as in 3 months :-P
[14:02:24] <stderr> Why does the stat from Bender always show the same date? And why doesn't it show what timezone it's referring to?
[14:02:38] <crutchy> its running in a wormhole
[14:02:54] <Bytram> crutchy: I have an idea... it would be nice if you could get together with Juggs and have his Regurgitator output not just the raw RSS feed link, but also snag the title, AND follow past the feed-redirect-crap to get the REAL URL, that would be a BIG win for me.
[14:03:08] <Subsentient> LOL
[14:03:09] <Bytram> that's for the #rss-bot channel, btw
[14:03:17] <KonomiNetbook> had to put it in a spacial vaccume outside our time space so it wouldn't heat up the universe
[14:03:23] <Subsentient> the terminator, the procrastinator, and the regurgitator
[14:03:29] <crutchy> the definitions script for exec has location following
[14:03:51] <crutchy> added a few scraping functions to the script lib to make stuff easier
[14:03:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:03:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 214
[14:04:15] <Subsentient> $time MST %a %m/%d/%Y | %r
[14:04:15] <aqu4> Mon 06/09/2014 | 05:04:14 AM MST
[14:04:21] <crutchy> could work on that Bytram
[14:04:35] <Bytram> that would be WONDERFUL!!
[14:04:38] <crutchy> i also have a feeds script that i been working on on and off
[14:04:54] <crutchy> works for atom. haven't looked at rss structure
[14:04:56] <ciri> [Soylentnews] - warhol works recovered from old amiga disks - http://www.youtube.com.
[14:04:57] <monopoly> Title: YouTube
[14:05:03] <Bytram> submission queue is really low, but I see some useful stuff coming down the wire on #rss-bot
[14:05:06] * aqu4 regurgitates on crutchy
[14:05:27] <Bytram> brb, trying to compose and push a story really quick before I gtg to work
[14:06:56] * aqu4 regurgitates on the carpet
[14:07:28] <crutchy> phys.org looks like a really good one
[14:10:20] * aqu4 regurgitates into the gerbil pit
[14:10:35] * aqu4 runs from angry vomit covered gerbils
[14:10:39] <crutchy> even girbils need to be fed :-P
[14:11:10] <crutchy> my guinea pigs like fresh grass and carrot
[14:11:18] <crutchy> and apple
[14:11:23] <Subsentient> crutchy: ever have a rat?
[14:11:35] <crutchy> when i was a kid yeah
[14:11:39] <crutchy> very clean
[14:11:57] <Subsentient> Sweetest creature I had seen in such a long time. I loved her, so much.
[14:12:00] <crutchy> much less trouble than mice
[14:12:07] <Subsentient> I took her everywhere.
[14:12:30] <Subsentient> I had a ripped up left shoulder because that's where she liked to sit and ride with me as I walked
[14:12:41] <crutchy> lol
[14:12:58] <crutchy> we gotta go get our piggies' claws clipped
[14:13:26] <crutchy> apparently not hard to do but i don't think i could
[14:13:36] <Subsentient> We couldn't let her stay in a cage because we all loved her so much, so we let her roam free and the cats left her alone, and it seemed OK until we lifted up the couch and discovered the beginnings of our hide beetle infestation.
[14:14:03] <Subsentient> She had stashed every piece of food we dropped in 2 years
[14:14:13] <crutchy> lmao
[14:14:16] <Subsentient> and it was all covered in a huge mound of beetles
[14:14:30] <crutchy> fuck i am full as a goog
[14:14:43] <Subsentient> We kept her in the cage a little more often after that.
[14:14:54] <crutchy> been eating peppered beef for the past 20 mins :-P
[14:15:00] <crutchy> sorry
[14:15:08] <Subsentient> CARNIVORE!!!
[14:15:12] <Subsentient> aqu4, get him!
[14:15:20] <crutchy> it had veggies too
[14:15:24] * aqu4 pukes on crutchy with vegan puke
[14:16:06] <crutchy> celery, onion, rocket, snowpeas, carrot, pepper gravy and a crapload of beef strips
[14:16:22] <Subsentient> crutchy: It's difficult for me to fathom meat eating after these years of vegetarianism.
[14:16:36] <crutchy> that's fair enough
[14:16:46] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: I ate an aborted chicken for lunch.
[14:16:50] <Subsentient> It seems bizarre, nauseating, and almost evil/.
[14:16:52] * JamesNZ trolls >:D
[14:16:54] <crutchy> lol
[14:17:10] <JamesNZ> And then I had a dead fish for dinner :P
[14:17:11] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: I eat eggs too but that's because I am too poor to buy almonds by the gigaton.
[14:17:28] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: Ah.
[14:17:34] <crutchy> if it makes you feel any better Subsentient i don't think i could kill the steer from which my meal originated
[14:17:39] * JamesNZ labels Subsentient as a carnivore anyway :P
[14:18:11] <Subsentient> You insult the ethics of your gerbilly lord and masteR?
[14:18:29] <JamesNZ> My belly is my master!
[14:18:49] <JamesNZ> (that sounds horrible, actually)
[14:18:53] * aqu4 pukes on JamesNZ
[14:19:34] <Subsentient> crutchy: And yeah, I'd get rid of all meat eating if I could.
[14:20:13] <Subsentient> It just seems like this great exception to people's ethics where they give to charity and then down 3 burgers.
[14:20:28] <Subsentient> Feels like cannibalism
[14:21:20] <Bytram> !stats
[14:21:20] <Bender> creating stats for channel #Soylent (Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970)
[14:21:35] <Bender> stat results for #Soylent: crutchy: 20228, xlefay: 11596, MrBluze: 9593, arti: 9353, unknown: 9003, kobach: 7019, NCommander: 5989, michealpwalls: 5386, prospectacle: 4787, chromas: 3559, TheMightyBuzzard: 3274, Subsentient: 3073, n1: 2786, hax0rz: 2675, Landon: 2587, Konomi: 2577, Blackmoore: 2457, SpallsHurgenson: 2428, mattie_p: 2356, Khyber: 2209, janrinok: 2192, stderr: 2148, mrcoolbp: 2102, Ethanol-fueled: 2026, paulej72: 1937, Bender: 1865, b>
[14:21:38] <Subsentient> Well I need to go. I'll be back tomorrow.
[14:21:47] <Subsentient> $burrito Bender for spamming Subsentient
[14:21:47] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Bender for spamming Subsentient
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[14:22:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> caffeine++
[14:22:08] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 8
[14:22:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> $burrito Bytram
[14:22:10] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Bytram
[14:22:35] * Bytram heats it up and tosses it back
[14:23:29] * JamesNZ bats it back at Bytram with his bat
[14:24:43] * Bytram dices, coats with flour, deep fries it, and then sends a spray of burrito bits back in the direction from whence it came.
[14:28:20] <Bytram> got to get ready for day job
[14:28:29] Bytram is now known as Bytram|afk
[14:28:37] <Bytram|afk> ~seen bytram
[14:36:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> holy shat, i just made raw pasted unicode work on the dev vm
[14:38:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[14:38:36] <monopoly> Title: We Are the Champions - Homer Simpson - YouTube
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[14:44:25] <JamesNZ> Mozart made some great coding music :D
[14:44:52] <crutchy> i like the one where the guy makes music using old floppy disk drives
[14:45:14] * JamesNZ doesn't think he's seen that one
[14:46:56] <crutchy> lmao haven't seen this one: https://www.youtube.com
[14:46:57] <monopoly> Title: Ghostbuster's Theme on eight floppy drives - YouTube
[14:47:10] <crutchy> has developed a bit since i heard last
[14:48:35] <JamesNZ> Heh, that sounds pretty good actually.
[14:51:26] <crutchy> W.... T.... F..... !!!!
[14:51:27] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[14:51:28] <monopoly> Title: Satisfaction by Benny Benassi on Singing Tesla Coil - Musical DRSSTC - YouTube
[14:52:20] <JamesNZ> HAHAHAHA XD
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[14:52:24] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v janrinok] by juggler
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[14:52:49] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v Woods] by juggler
[14:52:50] <JamesNZ> I get the feeling that guy just used that as an excuse to play with the tesla coil :P
[14:53:02] <crutchy> lmao skrillex... we don't need you any more https://www.youtube.com
[14:53:03] <monopoly> Title: Mortal Kombat Theme at Musical Tesla Coil (Bobina de Tesla) - YouTube
[14:53:13] * NCommander is now properly setup at a net caf
[14:53:14] <crutchy> who the fuck works this shit out
[14:53:49] <Woods> Oohhh, monopoly actually being useful. Look at that.
[14:53:51] <JamesNZ> That sounds awesome.
[14:55:20] <crutchy> that's some crazy shit
[14:55:31] <JamesNZ> This is pretty cool: https://www.youtube.com
[14:55:32] <monopoly> Title: "Pirates of the Caribbean" on Musical Tesla Coils - YouTube
[14:56:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, got paste whatever your browser can handle utf-8 working on the for submissions/display/feeds. needs a hell of a lot more than just me testing it though cause every single .pl file was affected and a few .pm files.
[14:56:15] <crutchy> imagine seeing this out in the front lawn playing christmas carols in december... https://www.youtube.com
[14:56:16] <monopoly> Title: Masters of Lightning Play Mortal Kombat Theme with Zeusaphones - YouTube
[14:56:29] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, well, it would be an improvement overall
[14:56:32] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I owe you beer
[14:56:43] <crutchy> JamesNZ: that one sounds fucking awesome!
[14:56:44] <ciri> Waken sounds like a fucking lounge inside.
[14:57:05] <crutchy> got a real synth kinda sound to it
[14:57:21] <JamesNZ> Yeah, pretty darn good :)
[14:57:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> 97 files changed, 98 if you count the vhost.conf
[14:57:45] <crutchy> hahahahahahaha!!! https://www.youtube.com
[14:57:46] <monopoly> Title: Adam Savage & ArcAttack - Back In Black - YouTube
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[14:58:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> will slap up a pull request real quick but it's gonna need a mess of testing cause i'm almost certain it's going to break SOMETHING
[15:00:27] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, we can get it deployed to lithium today
[15:00:34] * NCommander is dealing w/ the mail config
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[15:10:00] <crutchy> ~reload
[15:10:03] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file
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[15:10:56] <Blackmoore> mornin
[15:12:05] <NCommander> w00t, I figured out how to update aliases
[15:12:06] <NCommander> !
[15:12:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, tis a day of ass whooping all around then
[15:12:54] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I'm generating new SSL certificates for the site
[15:12:59] <NCommander> Hence why I needed access to postmaster
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[15:13:06] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v LaminatorX] by juggler
[15:13:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh, sha256 or your cert vendor charge extra for those?
[15:13:54] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, John installed the original SSL certificate
[15:14:09] <NCommander> Never got replaced over heartbleed, and we need new cert for stats.soylentnews.org (I just got a second IP for that)
[15:14:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that would have fixed the iframe issue too, likely
[15:18:00] * KonomiNetbook wonders if it would be more battery effciant to use opengl or software rendering for her netbook
[15:18:15] <NCommander> KonomiNetbook, generally opengl
[15:18:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> frankly, i'm amazed that simple of a fix worked for unicode. i never told it to html encode anything. it should have been dumping proper utf-8 into the db, which i didn't check to see if it could handle.
[15:18:37] <KonomiNetbook> any rationale why?
[15:18:52] <KonomiNetbook> I thought using the gfx chip more would drain more batterty life
[15:18:59] <KonomiNetbook> then again the cpu is pretty taxed so maybe not shrug
[15:19:55] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, we know slashcode at one point was fully UTF-8 enabled, it was bitrot that broke it
[15:20:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> KonomiNetbook, it does but it's also much more efficient than the cpu.
[15:20:22] <KonomiNetbook> hmm okay
[15:20:25] <KonomiNetbook> switching back then
[15:20:38] <LaminatorX> gfx hogs power when pushed sure, but is still usually more efficient than a general purpose chip attempting a task for which gpus have more optimal switching.
[15:20:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhhh. the use utf8 shouldn't even be necessary on perl 5.16+ or so but that's not what we're using, so...
[15:21:17] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, perl 5.10 :-/
[15:21:22] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, we do need to get it upgraded
[15:21:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> no rush if it's working
[15:22:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> bound to run into some deprecateds that got downgraded to simply removed.
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[15:29:02] * NCommander generates SSL certificates
[15:29:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads, i'm amazed that worked. the db is latin1 encoding.
[15:30:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> still, gift horse, mouth...
[15:30:22] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I fixed that on production
[15:30:26] <NCommander> THe VM might be latin1
[15:30:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[15:30:32] <NCommander> But dev and production have UTF-8 on the database
[15:31:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good. should minimize some of the more obscure bugs we would have run into.
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[15:32:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, got that done way, way quicker than i would have expected, so next project is setting up a raspberry pi media player.
[15:33:19] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, setup Slash on your RPi :)
[15:34:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think it would catch on fire. or possibly summon something unholy from the pit.
[15:34:48] <LaminatorX> NCommander, Mrcoolbp, we've got a call for volunteers story in the queue that was never displayed. What's the plan there?
[15:36:31] <LaminatorX> Also, the volunteer for editors email in the story is going to "content@", rather than "editors@." Has there been a re-org on the emails?
[15:37:19] <Konomi> hey NCommander remember when I said your code can't be too bad considering what I write ;p ?
[15:37:28] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[15:37:29] <monopoly> Title: Paste ofCode
[15:37:32] <Konomi> example of something I had to fix
[15:41:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Smart European TVs Can be Subverted by Radio Attack - http://sylnt.us - how-do-you-put-a-tinfoil-hat-on-an-antenna?
[15:44:57] <crutchy> konomi... i'm not a shell guy, but that code kinda didn't look too bad to me
[15:45:21] <Konomi> it was more I overlooked that check ;p
[15:45:35] <Konomi> the daemon crashed and left a stale pid file
[15:45:46] <Konomi> and the pid in the pid file had been taken by another process ;p
[15:46:01] <crutchy> something i'm picky about is consistent code convention
[15:46:27] <crutchy> different people code as bit differently, but if code varies all over the place it makes so hard to read
[15:46:44] <crutchy> wow my typing getting bad
[15:46:51] <crutchy> must be time for bed methinks
[15:50:05] <Blackmoore> g'night crutchy
[15:51:54] <NCommander> LaminatorX, I think we were waiting for mrcoolbp to push it out the queue
[15:52:02] * NCommander is generating a new certificate for chillax
[15:55:30] <crutchy> night Blackmoore, #Soylent
[15:55:57] <NCommander> paulej72, dev has a real SSL certificate now
[15:56:11] <paulej72> Nice
[16:00:10] <NCommander> paulej72, chillax is having OCSP issues due to the new cert. Its going to generate SSL errors for a few hours >.<;
[16:00:12] <NCommander> (dev got lucky)
[16:00:33] <NCommander> paulej72, I'll have one installed for main and stats before EOD
[16:02:34] <Konomi> nuke from orbit gotta be sure
[16:16:38] <Blackmoore> *Blackmoore chucks a huge hairy nasty Burrito at the who Soylent staff... go see it in the submissions. :P *
[16:22:27] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, commit merged
[16:22:33] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, deploying to lithium (dev)
[16:22:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> let the breakage commence!
[16:23:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> having all kinds of fun trying to get my sd card reader working. first time i tried using it.
[16:23:40] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, did you disable the draconian_charsets variable?
[16:23:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp
[16:24:09] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, ok, that was party related to the UTF-8 issues we had
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[16:24:19] <Konomi> crutchy: remember my silly tendency for mistakes
[16:24:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[16:24:32] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, it strips the top-bit of the UTF-8 content
[16:24:33] <Konomi> I realised I made no code to clear the lock file on program exit/term \o/
[16:24:35] <NCommander> Let me disable it on dev
[16:25:17] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, ok, new code deployed, variable updated :-)
[16:25:18] <ciri> I feel like whenever i hear a new (possibly updated) exec and hand the already-connected socket over to visit new zealand eventually.
[16:25:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads. no i just enabled use utf8 and something else started html-encoding everything.
[16:25:25] <NCommander> Let there be breakage
[16:25:35] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, HTML-encoding generally worked fine
[16:25:55] * Konomi is still confused why the code terminated ambnormally in the first place
[16:26:45] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, http://dev.soylentnews.org
[16:26:46] <monopoly> Title: Dev.SN Comments | html encoded unicode test
[16:26:47] <NCommander> I love you :-)
[16:27:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> funky
[16:27:08] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, worked perfectly fine when I just typed things into the box like
[16:27:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, something is doing the html-encoding for us, which is what i meant.
[16:27:32] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, <div id="comment_body_25818"><p>Hrm, ñ é € ǒ © blah blah ť Æ</p></div>
[16:27:48] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, yeah, I disabled that bit, your bit fixed handled of unicode in general
[16:27:52] <NCommander> This used to crash httpd
[16:27:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh nifty
[16:28:09] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, you should be able to type any UTF-8 characters in
[16:28:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> easy fixes FTW then
[16:28:51] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I'm sorely tempted to push this to production, but let's let paulej72 smack on it first
[16:29:11] * Konomi hears production
[16:29:12] <paulej72> does not work in comments
[16:29:17] * Konomi readys the bomb shelter
[16:29:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ? just did for NC
[16:29:42] <paulej72> Tried it with russian on dev
[16:30:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[16:30:57] <paulej72> did NCommander just deploy to dev?
[16:31:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep
[16:31:06] <NCommander> paulej72, I did
[16:31:24] <NCommander> paulej72, its slightly happier, doesn't work with JP either
[16:31:37] <NCommander> paulej72, dracocian_charrefs doesn't cause httpd to blowup
[16:32:11] <paulej72> Стоял он, дум великих полн, is causing comments.pl to hang
[16:32:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> comments hanging here for Ё Ђ Ѓ Є Ѕ І Ї Ј Љ Њ Ћ Ќ Ў Џ А Б В Г Д Е Ж З И Й К Л М as well
[16:32:45] <paulej72> 4byte utf8 may be still a problm
[16:32:46] <NCommander> Son of a pita
[16:32:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be
[16:32:53] <NCommander> paulej72, yeah, I think it will only work with 2-bit
[16:33:03] <NCommander> That's probably a mysql problem
[16:33:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> toggle draconian_charrefs again
[16:33:14] <NCommander> Toggling
[16:33:19] <paulej72> Стоял он, дум великих полн, just created a blank page for me
[16:33:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, newp
[16:34:08] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, still restarting slash
[16:34:09] <NCommander> Stand by
[16:34:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, rgr
[16:34:24] <paulej72> UTF8 on ./ was broken on purpose as people were using utf8 to create url hijacks
[16:34:47] <NCommander> paulej72, disabled, then bitrotted
[16:34:58] <NCommander> jp.slashdot.org is proof it worked at some point :-)
[16:36:03] <paulej72> or did jp.slashdot.org use a special verion of the code specifically setup to handel 4byte utf
[16:36:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> not sure
[16:37:26] <SirFinkus> do you mean slashdot.jp?
[16:37:50] <NCommander> er, /.jp
[16:38:03] <NCommander> Appears I broke it worse
[16:38:04] <NCommander> Crud
[16:38:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, something's being handled different between story submission previews and comment previews
[16:40:07] <NCommander> vars set to match production
[16:40:08] <NCommander> Lets see here
[16:40:45] <NCommander> Well
[16:40:49] <NCommander> Russian now trips the lameass filter
[16:40:50] <NCommander> Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted!
[16:40:50] <NCommander> Filter error: PLEASE DON'T USE SO MANY CAPS. USING CAPS IS LIKE YELLING!
[16:40:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good
[16:41:15] <paulej72> Yes there are exta layers of encoding on some of the inputs. also the lameness fitere effect some things differently
[16:41:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas a positive sign, means it's processing
[16:41:25] <NCommander> Your comment violated the "postercomment" compression filter. Try less whitespace and/or less repetition.
[16:41:27] <NCommander> That's a new one
[16:41:28] <NCommander> O_o;
[16:41:46] <Konomi> bad NCommander bad
[16:41:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> not on me. found it earlier
[16:42:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> temporarily nuke the lameness filters in the db and let's see
[16:42:24] <NCommander> paulej72, ok, we're back to wher ewe're start w/ TheMightyBuzzard's code
[16:42:33] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I just added some junk test enough, and russian still blows up
[16:42:36] <paulej72> The problem with utf8 on slash is that one of the encoding steps is not utf8 friendly. It woked this way before TMB’s code
[16:43:11] <paulej72> Some places utf8 worked fine, but others it failed miserably
[16:43:20] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, so what did your UTF-8 fixes actually fix?
[16:43:26] * NCommander notes the use utf-8 stuff is stuff we want anyway
[16:43:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> they fixed raw pasting into article text though apparently broke comments
[16:44:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> the same text in an article borks a comment.
[16:44:33] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, do you want an admin bit on dev?
[16:45:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't even made an account on dev yet. hmm...
[16:46:19] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: you alrady have one. the db is a clone from prod
[16:46:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah, nod nod
[16:47:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, for a bit anyway. wasn't having any luck with my sd reader so might as well poke this with a stick some more.
[16:48:26] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, whats your SN nick?
[16:48:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> The Mighty Buzzard
[16:48:56] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, paulej72 on the most pressing bugs list, I think getting login to be consisent is probably up there
[16:49:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> have issues posted with the specific issues with login?
[16:49:53] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, its not sticky. The cookie gets lost for mysterious reasons even if you allow it from the world
[16:50:02] * NCommander almost would rather kill the IP localization feature
[16:50:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, roger
[16:51:29] * Konomi hides the half eaten cookie and puts on the innocent look
[16:51:41] <NCommander> :-P
[16:51:42] <ciri> Fuck that</p><p>comment 1: trollollollolloll</p></body></html.
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[16:51:59] <Konomi> I love that song ;p
[16:52:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> tweaking a bit
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[16:53:36] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, the nightmare that is the login code is in Slash/Apache/User/User.pm
[16:56:12] * TheMightyBuzzard facepalms
[16:57:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> why the shit is it working in the vm and not on dev?
[16:58:20] * mrcoolbp wakes up
[16:58:44] <mrcoolbp> LaminatorX: I was actually waiting for Bytram on that story
[16:59:06] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, which shit?
[16:59:24] <mrcoolbp> LaminatorX: I got qa@sn.org setup for Bytram but he wanted to be able to email out of it and doesn't know how to setup an alia
[16:59:35] <mrcoolbp> s/alia/alias/
[16:59:36] <SedBot> <mrcoolbp> LaminatorX: I got qa@sn.org setup for Bytram but he wanted to be able to email out of it and doesn't know how to setup an alias
[16:59:45] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, can't he just set the Reply-To header?
[16:59:48] <NCommander> Or the From header?
[17:00:03] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: he's on thunderbird if you can walk him through it
[17:00:24] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, I will next time he pops up
[17:00:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> unicode. comments show it fine, ditto articles. gets Ё converted to Ё but displays peachy.
[17:00:35] <mrcoolbp> LaminatorX: the content@ was a mistake on my part, but we should update the wiki Who's Who as I think I scraped it from there
[17:00:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> on the vm
[17:00:48] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, whats draccion_* set in the VM (Config -> Vars)
[17:01:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> same as i just set dev to
[17:01:15] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, you need to reload dev when you change it
[17:01:19] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, let me bounce it
[17:01:20] <mrcoolbp> LaminatorX also: this is why I didn't send the story out, I was waiting for review and didn't really see any editors over the weekend
[17:01:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, rgr
[17:01:37] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, try it now
[17:02:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, now it's back to normally hating all unicode again.
[17:03:02] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: I hope you don't mind that I changed that one VAR on dev for TheMightyBuzzard
[17:03:24] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, obviously something is borked
[17:03:45] <NCommander> commit 4756399e94f8c50283cbee2f507ab97dea90e93d
[17:03:45] <NCommander> Author: TheMightyBuzzard <themightybuzzard@gmail.com>
[17:03:45] <NCommander> Date: Mon Jun 9 07:44:16 2014 -0500
[17:03:45] <NCommander> Include use utf8 in all top level scripts/libs
[17:03:49] <NCommander> Its there
[17:03:50] <NCommander> Hrm
[17:03:59] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, might be related to the database being UTF-8?
[17:04:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly, not sure.
[17:04:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> not entirely certain if the sql mods do any conversion or not
[17:05:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll change in the vm and test
[17:05:32] <NCommander> *************************** 1. row ***************************
[17:05:32] <NCommander> cid: 25818
[17:05:32] <NCommander> comment: <p>Hrm, ñ é € ǒ © blah blah ť Æ</p>
[17:05:45] <NCommander> Looks like it got mangled on its way to the DB
[17:05:57] <NCommander> Also, WHY THE HELL IS THE COMMENTS_TEXT IN A SEPERATE TABLE?!
[17:06:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> good ole slash
[17:06:46] * NCommander tries putting UTF directly in the DB and seeing if slash borks
[17:07:04] * mrcoolbp holds on tight
[17:07:58] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: did you write me a "featured story" function yet? = )
[17:08:15] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, nope :P
[17:08:17] <NCommander> http://dev.soylentnews.org
[17:08:29] <NCommander> Injecting UTF-8 straight into the DB didn't make it happy
[17:10:15] <NCommander> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
[17:12:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Touch Interfaces On Anything Using Fingerprint Heat - http://sylnt.us - a-boon-for-ATM-theft
[17:12:15] <paulej72> NCommander: comments.txt is a sperate table due to full text search
[17:12:30] <NCommander> OH
[17:12:35] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, you made a config update?
[17:12:37] <NCommander> To httpd.conf?
[17:12:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> had but i reverted it
[17:13:03] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, so it wasn't in the commit?
[17:13:08] <NCommander> It never got applied to dev
[17:13:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> was to slashdev.conf though
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[17:13:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not live on the vm either though, so not an issue
[17:13:50] <paulej72> NCommander: the forms may need to be updated to set utf8 as the input method for the form
[17:13:52] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, what was it just for the record
[17:14:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> lemme check
[17:14:05] <NCommander> paulej72, well, I've got UTF-8 in the database, and get mangled on the way out
[17:14:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> PerlSetEnv PERL_UNICODE AS
[17:14:38] <paulej72> NCommander: that is probably slash doing a decode on the urf8 which is does not understand
[17:15:27] <paulej72> the encode and decode subs have a list of chars not to change. Anything else gets mangled
[17:15:39] <NCommander> https://mail-archives.apache.org
[17:15:39] <monopoly> Title: Re: [mp1] Can't get UTF8 input streams to automatically be decoded using PERL_UNICODE under mod_perl
[17:15:40] <NCommander> Hrm
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[17:16:55] <paulej72> NCommander: slahs uese its own encode and decode system so it may be more than just that.
[17:17:10] * NCommander starts Apache with PERL_UNICODE just to test
[17:18:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> double checking the vars
[17:18:27] <NCommander> no improvement
[17:18:34] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, let me know if lithium needs a restart
[17:18:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[17:20:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> testing with a utf8 db on vm
[17:24:40] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I used the instructions in README.utf
[17:25:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> which where what?
[17:25:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, reading
[17:28:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, i just converted on the fly with ALTER DATABASE slashdev CHARACTER SET utf8 collate utf8_unicode_ci;
[17:29:49] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, that should do it.
[17:30:11] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, you MIGHT need to convert the tables themselves though
[17:30:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> did, had to do some bash magic to convert them all at once rather than one at a time.
[17:31:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> didn't break anything though so looking through all the vars to see if i changed something and forgot
[17:31:51] <ciri> Title: sword fights break out in a car-bed vroom vroom :d.
[17:40:27] * TheMightyBuzzard bangs his head against the wall
[17:41:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> exactly the same as far as i can see but vm converts unicode automatically to html codes and dev doesn't
[17:45:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, give me another apache restart just for kicks.
[17:45:18] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, k
[17:45:27] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I can make a shell account for you on dev if you think it will help
[17:45:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> couldn't hurt
[17:47:08] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, see PM
[17:47:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> doing so
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[17:56:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> need. coffee.
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[18:12:03] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[18:12:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 215
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[18:18:36] <ar> coffee--
[18:18:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 214
[18:21:40] <Blackmoore> I see you've been subjected to starbucks.
[18:21:57] <Blackmoore> I feel for you..
[18:22:52] <Blackmoore> This weekend I found a local coffee place whith a blen they called "Highlander Grog" it tasted like cofee and whiskey or scotch..
[18:23:07] <Blackmoore> I wish i had bought a bag.
[18:24:34] <NCommander> Report
[18:24:35] <NCommander> 1900 visits, 1195 unique visitors
[18:24:35] <NCommander> Fun
[18:26:11] <NCommander> wtf
[18:26:20] <NCommander> SOmeone poked the site with a Win95 user agent ...
[18:30:13] <mrcoolbp> lol
[18:31:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Male Faces Evolved to Endure Punches - http://sylnt.us - hit-me-with-your-best-shot
[18:37:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha! ha and ha and ha! 93 instances of use utf8 on dev and 167 on the vm
[18:43:46] <ar> NCommander: i got windows98 UA on my nginx today or yesterday
[18:45:55] <ar> NCommander: oh, in my case, they're bots: http://dpaste.com
[18:45:55] <monopoly> Title: dpaste: 35MP6YH
[18:46:30] <ar> NCommander: log_format db_import '$time_iso8601\t$remote_addr\t$host\t$status\t$body_bytes_sent\t$http_referer\t$http_user_agent\t$request_uri\t$uri\t$args';
[18:52:55] <ar> (yes, i slurp my nginx logs into a database)
[18:57:05] <NCommander> ar, interesting
[18:58:03] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, sounds ike I missed some patches
[18:58:10] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, or they weren't in your git
[18:58:27] <NCommander> ar, I think the oddest I've seen are some QNX hits on SN
[18:58:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably both since there were 97 files in the commit and 93 use utf8's on dev
[18:59:09] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, use git status to see differences from your tree, and git
[18:59:22] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, unless you were editing the raw slashcode files (bad practice :-()
[19:01:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> shouldn't have been but i'll diff the files i have with use utf8 vs dev manually and double check
[19:13:39] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, *nods*
[19:13:56] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, the slashcode depoy folder is in ~slash/mcasadevall/slashcode on lithium
[19:14:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> as opposed to ~slash/slashcode/ on the vm?
[19:15:14] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, er, ~slash/mcasadevall/slashcode is the git repo
[19:15:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> rgr
[19:15:25] <NCommander> ~slash/slashcode is the installed files (aka, after make install)
[19:15:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> dead backwards on the vm. was confusing till i checked the vhost file.
[19:16:36] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I think on the VM, the source was in ~slash/src/slashcode
[19:17:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, just ~slash/slashcode
[19:18:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless mine managed to get jacked somehow, which is entirely possible but unlikely.
[19:21:41] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: the new message system has messages about recent friend journal entries, but no links to said entries
[19:22:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, all the files from the commit are proper on dev. means i screwed up in the commit somehow
[19:26:57] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, joy :-/
[19:27:51] <mrcoolbp> okay need to get to work, catch you chaps later
[19:28:05] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: I am aware of that. They were not there in the old system eithe.
[19:28:20] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: understood
[19:30:27] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: with MrBluze "gone" so to speak, these pages will need some love:
[19:30:29] <mrcoolbp> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[19:30:30] <monopoly> Title: UserExperience - SoylentNews
[19:30:34] <mrcoolbp> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[19:30:35] <monopoly> Title: Style - SoylentNews
[19:30:40] <mrcoolbp> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[19:30:41] <monopoly> Title: CssWork - SoylentNews
[19:31:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, nope. grep was just going through symlinks as well on the live code.
[19:31:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> count them out and we're all good
[19:32:14] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: if you have a few minutes, at least organizing those pages a bit might help in case we get a few volunteers to help in that area (we have a post going out soon WRT volunteers)
[19:32:39] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: I’ll take a look after work
[19:33:32] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: thanks!
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[19:39:56] <ar> Failover: it fails and it's over.
[19:42:19] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, no love on debugging? :-/
[19:42:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> far as i can tell so far they're exactly the same but the vm works and dev doesn't
[19:43:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> still looking though
[19:44:48] <paulej72> NCommander, TheMightyBuzzard: different version of mysql?
[19:45:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, very slightly
[19:46:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine being 2 minor versions older
[19:46:21] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, might be an issue with the vars
[19:46:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, s'what i was thinking but i can't find the one it'd be
[19:47:16] <paulej72> dump the vars table on both and do a diff
[19:47:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> isn't any of the draconian
[19:47:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> was bout to. i expect a LOT of differences though.
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[19:48:35] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: for the vars table not so much, You may see some, but you will be able to elimiate most of them
[19:54:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... going to have to make those dumps something diff can handle first
[19:57:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> or i could just use a select statement instead of mysqldump. *facepalm*
[20:03:06] <NCommander> I have absolute no image
[20:03:07] <ciri> Yes, i can arrange resources, you should be an interesting biology fact: the simple image sharer.
[20:03:13] <NCommander> er
[20:03:15] <NCommander> absolutely no energy
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[20:12:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, found one difference. default-character-set = utf8 in my.cnf on the vm.
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[20:12:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> unset and defaulting to auto on dev
[20:14:28] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: do we want to try to change it and see what happens
[20:15:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> shouldn't cause an issue unless something else is running on dev that would bork at a utf8 charset
[20:15:47] <paulej72> dev is only running slash so should be ok
[20:16:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> have to be one of you lot what can whoop out root powers though. my.cnf isn't within slash's powers to edit, ditto restarting mysql.
[20:17:30] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, sot he file is or isn't on dev?
[20:17:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> file is on dev but needs an edit
[20:17:54] <paulej72> what is the line and where do I need to put in my.cnf
[20:18:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> default-character-set = utf8
[20:18:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> somewhere up near the top would be good so we can find it again if necessary
[20:19:05] <paulej72> In mysqld section?
[20:19:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah, right. client section
[20:20:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> shouldn't make a shit bit of difference because that's for running mysql binary as a client but who the hell knows with perl.
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[20:21:01] <paulej72> done
[20:21:12] <NCommander> paulej72, recommend restarting stuff, and chowning that file
[20:21:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> restarted mysql?
[20:21:58] * TheMightyBuzzard grabs nicotine while that gets taken care of
[20:22:57] <paulej72> restarted mysql and slash services
[20:23:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheers
[20:23:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> good, still broke. would have annoyed me if that fixed it.
[20:26:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> back to looking at the vars diff
[20:28:44] <NCommander> paulej72, did you also pop Apache?
[20:28:50] <paulej72> si
[20:28:54] <NCommander> just checking :-)
[20:29:13] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, there's some server stuff related to utf-8 in my.cnf in /etc/mysql
[20:31:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, yep but it's no different than mine currently, so shouldn't be an issue.
[20:32:01] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I'm not sure, worth a ook
[20:32:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> looking
[20:34:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> can try adding "character-set-server=utf8" under the mysqld section and restarting
[20:36:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> mysql> show variables like "%character%"; character_set_database | latin1
[20:36:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> oopsie
[20:39:47] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, stand by
[20:41:41] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, | character_set_server | utf8 |
[20:42:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheers. you want i should convert the db and tables or would you rather?
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[20:44:36] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, they should all be UTF-8 on dev
[20:44:42] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I'm setting up phpmyadmin
[20:45:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod but nope, main db is still set to latin1
[20:46:05] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, feel free to update it
[20:46:11] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, production should be UTF-8 though ...
[20:46:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[20:46:54] * NCommander is fiddling with nexuses
[20:47:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> tables were set, db wasn't
[20:48:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think i may need a beer.
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[20:55:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> something in the vm is doing html entity conversion on unicode before it hits the db but not on dev. that pretty much has to be happening in the perl but we're using the exact same damned code.
[20:57:15] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, well, I recompiled the setup in the VM
[20:57:25] <NCommander> Its *possible* something environmental affected that build
[20:57:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[20:59:59] <paulej72> http://stackoverflow.com
[21:00:00] <monopoly> Title: change mysql default character set to UTF8 in my.cnf? - Stack Overflow
[21:03:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. we made the important ones out of those already
[21:03:31] <NCommander> paulej72, BTW, I got nexuses working on dev
[21:03:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> mysql shouldn't be seeing any unicode anyway. it should be getting html-encoded entities.
[21:04:35] <NCommander> er, almost
[21:09:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, going to start stepping through the submission code bit by bit and finding out exactly what does the conversion to html-entities so i can find out why it's not doing it on dev.
[21:09:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> this will take a while
[21:11:09] <NCommander> paulej72, I finally worked out how nexuses work, what a brainmelt
[21:13:32] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: let me give you a head start
[21:13:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> by all means
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[21:15:12] <paulej72> https://github.com
[21:15:14] <monopoly> Title: slashcode/Slash/Utility/Data/Data.pm at master · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub
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[21:18:06] <paulej72> most of the suff is done by data.pm. https://github.com
[21:18:08] <monopoly> Title: slashcode/Slash/Utility/Data/Data.pm at master · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub
[21:18:39] <paulej72> encode_high_bits => sub {
[21:18:40] <paulej72> # !! assume Latin-1 !!
[21:18:42] <paulej72> my $constants = getCurrentStatic();
[21:18:43] <paulej72> if ($constants->{draconian_charset}) {
[21:18:45] <paulej72> # anything not CRLF tab space or ! to ~ in Latin-1
[21:18:46] <paulej72> # is converted to entities, where approveCharrefs or
[21:18:48] <paulej72> # encode_html_amp takes care of them later
[21:18:49] <paulej72> _fixupCharrefs();
[21:18:51] <paulej72> ${$_[0]} =~ s[([^\n\r\t !-~])][ _charsetConvert(ord($1), $constants)]ge;
[21:18:52] <paulej72> } },
[21:18:52] <paulej72> );
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[21:20:48] <NCommander> and it all crashes
[21:20:48] <NCommander> ugh
[21:21:52] <paulej72> https://github.com
[21:21:53] <monopoly> Title: slashcode/Slash/Utility/Data/Data.pm at master · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub
[21:24:53] <paulej72> NCommander: a bunch of the fixes I have done in the templates may not be fully nexus aware as I used the wrong prefix var (gskin verus absoulteroot)
[21:25:02] <NCommander> paulej72, cookies are one
[21:25:03] <ciri> Arti xlefay chromas crutchy bacon coffee kobach mattie_p ncommander bytram mrcoolbp paulej72 barrabas zford auto_def khyber hax0rz.
[21:25:05] <NCommander> paulej72, but I have it working
[21:25:10] <NCommander> paulej72, http://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:25:11] <monopoly> Title: Dev.SN: Dev.SN is dead developers
[21:25:16] <NCommander> paulej72, http://meta.dev.soylentnews.org
[21:25:17] <monopoly> Title: Dev.SN: Dev.SN is dead developers
[21:25:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, will have to hunt down where it's erroring on dev then. mayhaps some breakfast first though being as it's 2:30pm
[21:25:45] <paulej72> NCommander: so once we have a nexus working I’ll need to test a bunch of stuff to see what is going on.
[21:29:54] <paulej72> Login on meta is a bitch as the login scripts go to absoute_root. Had to manually edit the live html to point the correct server to login
[21:31:03] <NCommander> paulej72, well, there's a cookie_domain variable for both the mainpage and meta nexuses
[21:31:08] <NCommander> I think that probably needs to be set to SOMETHING
[21:31:15] <NCommander> *.dev.soylentnews.org probably
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[21:37:04] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm seeing why nexuses don't show up in the user screen
[21:37:59] <paulej72> NCommander: turned off by default?
[21:38:21] <paulej72> NCommander: I broke it during a code purge?
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[21:39:14] <paulej72> NCommander: the code monkeys do not allow it unless you prepare a sacrifice of 30 virgins?
[21:39:53] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm fiddling w/ it
[21:40:45] <paulej72> NCommander: this should not happen https://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:41:15] <NCommander> paulej72, how'd you find that?
[21:42:21] <paulej72> NCommander: it was my understaning that slashdot.org/apple/ would redirect to apple.slashdot.org so I was trying to see if that worked correctly for meta
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[21:52:35] <NCommander> paulej72, I think /meta/ is where the static pages would go
[21:54:18] <NCommander> paulej72, ok, its a variable, which is supposd to fall back to a function if its not set
[21:56:03] <paulej72> but the code in the Apache.pm or some such does a redirect for all unknown pages to a skin. It seems like it may be broken as it seems t work like I thought it would on ./
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[22:02:15] <NCommander> paulej72, yeah
[22:02:21] <NCommander> Oh, that's bloody f***d up
[22:02:25] * NCommander really really hates slash
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[22:15:51] <NCommander> I don't get it
[22:15:53] <NCommander> Ugh
[22:16:42] <NCommander> my @nexustid_order = sort {($b == $constants->{mainpage_nexus_tid}) <=> ($a == $constants->{mainpage_nexus_tid}) ||
[22:16:42] <NCommander> lc $nexus_hr->{$a} cmp lc $nexus_hr->{$b} } keys %$nexus_hr;
[22:16:45] <NCommander> I think thats the problem
[22:17:40] <NCommander> This function is all sorts of f'cked up
[22:18:17] <NCommander> Argh
[22:18:18] <NCommander> Ok
[22:18:19] <NCommander> I get it
[22:18:27] <NCommander> It *is* f'cked up, so at least its not me
[22:18:51] <NCommander> Basically, the way Slash is supposed to work
[22:18:57] <NCommander> Everything ties to a top level nexus
[22:18:59] <NCommander> That's braindead
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[22:19:03] * NCommander needs to rewrite this funciton
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[22:27:08] <NCommander> paulej72, yeah, so if I make "Meta" a child of "The Main Page", it shows up in user preferences
[22:27:19] <paulej72> NCommander: want to switch to |. code :P
[22:27:26] <NCommander> paulej72, not really
[22:27:38] <NCommander> paulej72, and the skin is *really* fucked up for collasped topics :-)
[22:27:49] <NCommander> http://dev.soylentnews.org
[22:27:52] <NCommander> In several ways
[22:27:53] <NCommander> >.<;
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[22:28:32] <NCommander> paulej72, I think its "easiest" if we set the mainpage nexus to be "Nexuses"
[22:28:37] <Landon> do we have a SN minecraft server?
[22:28:39] <NCommander> Which would then inhertiant all the nexuses below it
[22:28:46] <NCommander> Landon, not yet, mostly becaue ENOTIMETOADMIN
[22:28:49] <Landon> haha
[22:29:12] <Landon> well I'll be damned if I didn't get a great world gen, I'll pass along the seed :P
[22:29:26] <Landon> mountains+ravines within 1-2 blocks of a nice flat forest
[22:29:43] <Cyprus> you know, it's not often I wander into a tech discussion and have no idea what the fuck is being talked about
[22:30:03] <Landon> I tried setting up a server last night myself, but wow. setting up bukkit is intense, I'll need a couple hours of concentration tonight
[22:32:31] <paulej72> NCommander: where did you set up the meta nexus
[22:32:41] <NCommander> paulej72, I've bene fiddling with it and broke it again :-)
[22:32:44] <NCommander> paulej72, give me a sec
[22:35:46] <NCommander> paulej72, http://dev.soylentnews.org
[22:35:47] <monopoly> Title: Log In
[22:35:59] <NCommander> paulej72, select the select from the left radio button to make it "collasped"
[22:36:22] <paulej72> Not that where did you first set it up?
[22:37:17] <Blackmoore> Landon: I'm going to set one up.
[22:38:10] <Blackmoore> I have a server running right now - but I have to scrap it and start over for this group.
[22:38:21] <Blackmoore> besides i'm bored with that one.
[22:39:08] <Blackmoore> if you got a good seed I'll take it.
[22:39:31] <NCommander> paulej72, in the scheme itself
[22:39:36] <NCommander> in the DB
[22:44:13] <NCommander> Suppose an editor is working on a story about Slash and assigns it
[22:44:14] <NCommander> the topic "slash," tid 4, with weight 10. Weight 10 is described as
[22:44:14] <NCommander> "Sectional only" in the code. When that story is saved, renderTopics
[22:44:14] <NCommander> recursively propagates the weight of its topics, or in this case its
[22:44:14] <NCommander> single topic, up to parents, or in this case parent. Rendering adds
[22:44:14] <NCommander> tid 3, also at weight 10. It does not add tid 1 since !(10 >= 30).
[22:44:16] <NCommander> The story thus will appear only on C<http://opensource.example.com/>
[22:44:18] <NCommander> and not C<http://example.com/>.
[22:44:18] <monopoly> Title: Example Domain
[22:44:21] <NCommander> WHo the heck thouht something this complex was a good idea?!
[22:45:20] <paulej72> NCommander: I thought that doc was out of date.
[22:45:53] <NCommander> paulej72, its still partially revelent
[22:48:35] <paulej72> NCommander: I think you need to set the url for meta skin to meta
[22:50:04] <NCommander> paulej72, I just zeroed it out, which got it mostly behaving correctly
[22:50:05] <ciri> Sure, but ncommander and paulej72 rescued it.
[22:50:12] <paulej72> I see that now
[22:51:09] <paulej72> NCommander: I will need to restyle thoes collapsed stores They are horrible
[22:51:35] <paulej72> But at least ti seems to be working ok.
[22:52:10] <NCommander> paulej72, they're working for you?
[22:52:15] <paulej72> NCommander: did you have to have a second instance of slash installed on dev for meta
[22:52:29] <paulej72> NCommander: yes in Night Mode
[22:52:34] <NCommander> paulej72, no, I didn't
[22:52:39] <NCommander> paulej72, I think I figured out how to fix cookies
[22:55:38] <NCommander> paulej72, ok, cross-domain cookies ARE working now
[22:55:44] <NCommander> paulej72, you have to log out and log in for it to get reset properly
[22:56:06] <NCommander> paulej72, I have to rewrite the section detector to be less stupid
[22:56:52] <paulej72> NCommander: we should try a test create another nexus called chillax. see if it picks up our theme for the skin by defautt
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[22:59:49] <Alberto> sup
[23:00:30] <NCommander> paulej72, I can do that in a moment
[23:00:39] <NCommander> paulej72, though user selection *should* override that
[23:00:57] <Alberto> sup NCommander
[23:00:57] <Alberto> :D
[23:01:05] <NCommander> Alberto, messing with nexuses
[23:01:12] <paulej72> nexii
[23:01:17] <Alberto> I'm playing Lol
[23:01:27] <Alberto> the main idea of the game is to destroy the Nexus
[23:01:29] <Alberto> is the same? :P
[23:01:35] <paulej72> Alberto: how do you play Lol?
[23:01:55] <Alberto> http://na.leagueoflegends.com
[23:01:58] <Alberto> that game
[23:01:58] <Alberto> :D
[23:02:01] <monopoly> Title: League of Legends
[23:02:17] <paulej72> lol is lol
[23:03:01] <NCommander> Interesting
[23:03:11] * NCommander used to play a long time ago
[23:03:26] <Alberto> i started with Dota
[23:03:30] <Alberto> a map for Warcraft III
[23:03:42] <Alberto> Then moved to MuOnline and made the very first emulator
[23:03:50] <Alberto> ASM / C / C++
[23:03:54] <NCommander> paulej72, http://meta.dev.soylentnews.org
[23:03:55] <monopoly> Title: - Dev.SN User
[23:03:59] <NCommander> paulej72, now THAT is an interesting feature
[23:04:04] <NCommander> You can filter the admin page by nexuses
[23:04:24] <paulej72> NCommander: I think when I do the admin pages cleanup, I will add a nexus editing
[23:04:36] <NCommander> paulej72, nexus editing?
[23:04:46] <NCommander> Topic editing doesn't even work (reliably :-P)
[23:04:55] <NCommander> paulej72, what I would love to do is give users localized admin privs in a nexus
[23:05:12] <Alberto> NCommander, i want SoyLent in spanish
[23:05:19] <Alberto> can we do es.soylentnews.org ? :D
[23:05:20] <paulej72> NCommander: make it so we can create nexus from the admin pages without directly touching the db.
[23:05:47] <paulej72> barrapunto.org
[23:06:12] <Alberto> that website sucks
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[23:06:26] <Alberto> i got barrahome.org
[23:06:29] <Alberto> wich is /home :D
[23:06:57] <paulej72> cd ~/: cd ../
[23:08:27] <Alberto> used to ahve stdout and stdin
[23:08:35] <Alberto> and and others domains
[23:08:47] <Alberto> segfault too
[23:09:21] <NCommander> paulej72, true
[23:09:36] <NCommander> paulej72, huh, I found you enable the ability to exclude topics
[23:10:08] <paulej72> NCommander: what?
[23:10:33] <NCommander> paulej72, check out the homepage on dev now
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[23:10:41] <NCommander> paulej72, http://dev.soylentnews.org
[23:10:42] <monopoly> Title: Log In
[23:11:56] <paulej72> Yes I see topics are now selectable :)
[23:12:13] <paulej72> But nexii are not :(
[23:12:14] <NCommander> paulej72, curious if we should enable it
[23:12:21] <NCommander> paulej72, thats because the selector code is idiotic
[23:12:24] <NCommander> and that has to be fixed
[23:12:43] <NCommander> paulej72, topic exclusion is set on a global: off, sub-only, on
[23:13:36] <paulej72> NCommander: I remember looking at that var at one point when I was fixing slashbox selections
[23:14:02] <NCommander> paulej72, it appears to be disabed on the other site
[23:14:07] * NCommander isn't sure if its a good or bad idea
[23:14:59] <paulej72> I was available at one point on ./ but I think the stupid d2 preferences hid that feature.
[23:15:14] <NCommander> paulej72, hrm
[23:16:00] <paulej72> NCommander: did you change anything with the nexus test story as I do not see it on the dev home page anymore
[23:16:46] <NCommander> paulej72, I marked it meta-only
[23:16:50] * NCommander was experimenting :-)
[23:16:55] <paulej72> NCommander: What we also should have is a menu on the left with the nexuses listed so people can easily get to it.
[23:18:02] <paulej72> I thouht that would be automatic, as ./ and barrapunto both have it.
[23:18:54] * NCommander tests his patch
[23:19:00] <NCommander> paulej72, I think its a static template
[23:19:04] * NCommander looks at barrapunto
[23:19:27] <NCommander> paulej72, getStorypickableNexusChildren
[23:19:28] <NCommander> er
[23:19:33] <NCommander> <!-- start template: ID 453, sidebox;misc;default -->
[23:19:33] <NCommander> <div class="block">
[23:19:33] <NCommander> <div class="title" id="sitebox-title">
[23:19:33] <NCommander> <h4>
[23:19:33] <NCommander> Secciones
[23:19:34] <NCommander> </h4>
[23:19:35] <ciri> [Soylentnews] - invitation to volunteer for soylentnews - http://sylnt.us - absent-friends.
[23:19:36] <NCommander> </div>
[23:22:41] <crutchy> coffee++
[23:22:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 215
[23:23:42] * NCommander pedals
[23:24:28] <chromas> NCommander: toward the coffee? Or away?
[23:24:41] * NCommander mutters bad things about perl
[23:24:49] <NCommander> If slashcode was only written in Ada
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[23:26:52] * crutchy wonders if he stinks worse than usual
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[23:27:11] <chromas> Did the kids run away, screaming?
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[23:27:43] <crutchy> they's stuffing their faces with cocoa pops atm
[23:27:55] <crutchy> or coco pops
[23:28:02] <crutchy> whatever they are
[23:28:14] <chromas> chocolate balls
[23:28:40] <crutchy> like rice bubbles but infused with all manner of sugary goodness
[23:28:46] <chromas> NCommander: there's still time
[23:28:54] <NCommander> I seriously hate perl
[23:28:57] <chromas> Ada looks like wordy Pascal
[23:29:00] <crutchy> php ftw
[23:29:03] * crutchy runs
[23:29:04] <Subsentient> C ftw fools
[23:29:24] <chromas> Assembly, man
[23:29:32] <crutchy> lol @ wordy pascal
[23:29:35] <Subsentient> Magnetized needle, dumbasses.
[23:29:42] <chromas> crutchy: http://groups.engin.umd.umich.edu
[23:29:43] <monopoly> Filetype: ASCII text (194 lines, 6 KiB)
[23:29:57] <crutchy> must be like writing an essay if its more wordy than pascal :-P
[23:30:48] <crutchy> like pascal and fortran's love child
[23:31:02] <crutchy> or grandma
[23:31:14] <crutchy> (is ada that really really old language?)
[23:31:18] <chromas> Pascal was perfected when Borland added stuff from Modula
[23:31:41] <Subsentient> NCommander: I want to test new persistent user modes, op aqu4? :^3
[23:31:58] <chromas> Subsentient: insert coin
[23:32:08] <chromas> or token
[23:32:09] <crutchy> aqua4: MAKE ME GOD!!
[23:32:15] <Subsentient> $chanctl addpumode Subsentient!WhiteRat@universe2.us/Subsentient Subsentient #Soylent +o
[23:32:16] <aqu4> Mode saved.
[23:32:49] <crutchy> Subsentient: that will cost you one wish'
[23:33:05] <Subsentient> crutchy: I have an infinite supply, here, take.
[23:33:23] <crutchy> NCommander: i hate perl too, and i only looked at it for a while
[23:34:12] <NCommander> .op aqu4
[23:34:12] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o aqu4] by juggler
[23:34:23] <chromas> sudo $burrito
[23:34:35] <paulej72> NCommander: perl would not be so bad if it were not so prone to stupid one liners
[23:34:36] <chromas> su su sudio
[23:34:51] <paulej72> error no user su
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[23:35:01] <crutchy> sudo sudo
[23:35:04] <chromas> But the one-liners are what make you 1337
[23:35:09] <Subsentient> NCommander: thanks bud.
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[23:35:14] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o Subsentient] by aqu4
[23:35:17] <Subsentient> sweet
[23:35:21] <Subsentient> $chanctl listpumodes
[23:35:21] <aqu4> List of user modes currently saved:
[23:35:22] <aqu4> [0] Activating mask: Subsentient!WhiteRat@universe2.us/Subsentient | Target: Subsentient | Channel: ##aqu4bot | Mode: +v
[23:35:23] <aqu4> [1] Activating mask: Subsentient!WhiteRat@universe2.us/Subsentient | Target: Subsentient | Channel: #soylent | Mode: +o
[23:35:24] <aqu4> End of list.
[23:35:57] <Subsentient> .op
[23:36:00] <crutchy> NCommander: what have you done? you've created... something that i'm not sure what you've created!!!
[23:36:15] <Subsentient> He has created a gerbil swarm.
[23:36:31] <chromas> is that what's in the burritos?
[23:36:34] <NCommander> paulej72, I can't quite figure out this stupid loop
[23:36:48] <Subsentient> chromas: No, seaweed and beetles.
[23:36:59] <chromas> what's so bad about that?
[23:37:04] <crutchy> while (1) { break; }
[23:37:10] <paulej72> NCommander: let me have a look: give me some line numbers
[23:37:23] <Subsentient> crutchy: there's a deep humor in that you know.
[23:37:36] <chromas> seaweed is good for some reason and beetls make me strong and give me the power to play Michael KEaton
[23:37:40] <Subsentient> crutchy: ofc while (1) break; would also be legal
[23:37:56] <NCommander> paulej72, 1795/users.pl
[23:38:04] <NCommander> paulej72, it needs to go through each entry in the topic_tree
[23:38:07] <crutchy> i don't like bumbing down a level without blocks
[23:38:10] <paulej72> good I know users.pl well
[23:38:17] <crutchy> s/umb/ump/
[23:38:17] <SedBot> <crutchy> i don't like bumping down a level without blocks
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[23:38:31] <NCommander> And copy it to the nexus_hr, if it is a {nexus} and {storypickable}
[23:38:46] <NCommander> Instead of this stupid child shit
[23:39:00] <crutchy> ech sounds stinky
[23:39:11] <crutchy> especially if its someone elses child
[23:40:24] <NCommander> paulej72, if you do that, it should cause nexuses to properly show up in users.pl
[23:40:28] <chromas> crutchy: it's the lovechild of CmdrTaco and CowboyNeal
[23:40:36] <NCommander> paulej72, then we just need to figure out the rest we needto debug, this is kinda something I want to go out in a point release
[23:40:43] <paulej72> NCommander: what is the issue you are having with this code
[23:41:27] <paulej72> NCommander: this code is similar to the slashbox code so it is fairlty familaiar
[23:41:53] <crutchy> maybe it works... and it shouldn't, so we need to break it so we can fix it :-P
[23:43:19] <paulej72> my $nexus_tids_ar = $reader->getStorypickableNexusChildren($constants->{mainpage_nexus_tid}, 1);
[23:43:47] <paulej72> getStorypickableNexusChildren is the probmlem I think.
[23:45:12] <crutchy> it's those wiley protoss that are causing all the problems... just stick a psi emitter in there and let the swarm sort it out
[23:45:53] <chromas> Zerg are giant bugs
[23:46:16] <NCommander> paulej72, yeah, my brain just can't get traction today
[23:46:18] <ciri> Yeah vyprvpn is what i want to make paulej72 cry with this japanese dude in upper la nosca by the languages spoken there though.
[23:46:43] <NCommander> paulej72, it needs to just look if its 1. a nexus 2. if storypickable is set (which is the fun name var that determines if a user can or can't exclude a section)
[23:47:10] <crutchy> ciri, paulej72 did wwhat now?
[23:48:06] <NCommander> paulej72, and I think delete the check that you have to have at least 1/4th of nexuses enabled
[23:48:29] <paulej72> NCommander: it looks like this code is only susposed to show up nexuses that are children of the mainpage nexus.
[23:48:45] <paulej72> NCommander: we can change this if that is what you want.
[23:48:50] <NCommander> paulej72, right, and if I make meta a child of the mainpage, it shows up
[23:49:08] <NCommander> paulej72, though part of me wonders if we should set the mainpage to "Nexuses"
[23:49:18] <NCommander> vs. the mainpage
[23:49:25] <NCommander> Though that makes backslash look odd
[23:49:40] <NCommander> It shows up as "This article will show up on THe Main Page and Nexuses"
[23:50:00] <NCommander> paulej72, the idea theway it was supposed to work is that topics go into a tree
[23:50:01] <NCommander> like
[23:50:03] <NCommander> Main Page
[23:50:08] <NCommander> - Apple
[23:50:10] <NCommander> -- Darwin
[23:50:17] <paulej72> NCommander: What is the reason that we want nexuses that are not childdren of the main page?
[23:50:25] <NCommander> And because it was in Darwin, it would end up on apple.soylentnews.org
[23:50:36] <crutchy> ~restart
[23:50:38] <NCommander> paulej72, because that's not how nexuses are arrange on the mainpage
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[23:50:55] <NCommander> paulej72, and this could allow us at some point create something completely independent of the mainpage that users can opt-in to see
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[23:51:05] <NCommander> paulej72, i.e., for my DF succession fort, I could create a dwarffortress.soylentnews.org
[23:51:14] <NCommander> And then a user could choose to add that to their main page
[23:51:45] <NCommander> That more or less works if I edit to database to set my nexuses independent of the options in users
[23:52:05] <NCommander> (the only thing I can't do is set it to exclude by default)
[23:52:27] <NCommander> Then if I want something cross posted, an editor could choose the "Dwarf Fortress" nexus and the "Main Page" nexuses, and it would show on both
[23:52:43] <NCommander> With it as "Dwarf Fortress: Starting up a new SN community"
[23:52:52] <NCommander> Read More | 0 comments | dwarffortress.soylentnews.org
[23:55:37] <paulej72> NCommander: the stupid Nexus selection system is like the authors, where they are on by default and only selectable to off. If we had a second tln (top level nexus) that was to be optional, then it would require a bunch of work to have off by default and slectable
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[23:59:10] <NCommander> paulej72, we can do that :-)
[23:59:26] <NCommander> paulej72, "Defaults", "Others"
[23:59:49] <NCommander> paulej72, I created the "Nexuses"/"Sections" divide with little effort, I could easily create a new section there