#Soylent | Logs for 2014-06-06

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[00:00:04] <chromas> aw
[00:00:22] <crutchy> cyas later eh
[00:00:28] <crutchy> ~q
[00:00:29] <chromas> Bye crutchy
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[00:11:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - British Recording Industry Thinks Google can do More to Prevent 'Piracy' - http://sylnt.us - another-can-of-worms
[00:12:36] <chromas> from the certain-kind-of-pirate...yes-we've-been-called-that department
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[01:30:04] <chromas> ciri: we need your help! Andross has declared war! He's invaded the Lylat System and is trying to take over SoylentNews. Our army alone can't do the job. Hurry ciri!
[01:30:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Squiggly Lines - Possibly the Future of Password Security - http://sylnt.us - I-bet-people-will-write-the-same-profanity
[01:31:46] <chromas> from the microsoft-did-it department
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[02:43:54] * NCommander waves
[02:44:32] <chromas> Hey-o!
[02:44:54] <chromas> How go the missions and sleep?
[02:44:58] <NCommander> Sounds like we're committed to doing a DF succession game >.<;
[02:45:02] <NCommander> chromas, missions?
[02:45:08] * NCommander is sitting in a hostel in Boston
[02:45:21] <chromas> SoylentHunting, etc
[02:45:48] <chromas> NCommander: s/host/broth/
[02:45:48] <SedBot> <chromas> <NCommander> is sitting in a brothel in Boston
[02:46:29] <pbnjoe> NCommander, yeah I'm pushing it because I've never done one before and now's a good time to start :p
[02:46:58] <NCommander> pbnjoe, the question is, DF2012, or wait
[02:47:30] <pbnjoe> You wanna do a succession when no-one knows what the hell they're doing anymore? :P
[02:47:43] <pbnjoe> not saying there's anything wrong with that
[02:49:51] <NCommander> pbnjoe, I'm writing a journal up about it
[02:49:55] <pbnjoe> And if we were to wait, would we wait until it seems like there's no more bugfixes?
[02:50:18] <pbnjoe> because it would suck to have to abandon because of a memory leak or whatever the issue could be
[02:50:29] <pbnjoe> and ok
[02:51:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Poor Health And Education Linked To Early Memory Problems - http://sylnt.us - have-I-already-posted-this?
[02:55:44] <NCommander> pbnjoe, well, pont releases are notorious for breaking save compatibility
[02:55:56] <NCommander> pbnjoe, 34.01 -> 34.02 broke it, and there was another break in the bugfixes
[02:57:24] <swiss> just got my scratch wireless phone
[02:57:27] <swiss> we'll see how this works out
[03:00:45] <NCommander> pbnjoe, see the Site News bar
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[03:02:27] <NCommander> paulej72, how'd you feel about allowing <img> tags in journals for subscribers?
[03:04:10] <paulej72> NCommander: would the imgages be hosted on other servers, then probably I am OK with it. Now if we can get slash to do that is another issue
[03:04:19] <SpallsHurgenson> oh god, images in comments...
[03:04:24] <NCommander> paulej72, HTML tags are a regex in vars
[03:04:28] <NCommander> So "theorically" its easy
[03:04:47] * SpallsHurgenson sees avatars, sig-pix, goat.se.... for the love of god, no! I'll go back to beta first!
[03:04:48] <arti> theoric.
[03:04:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> <img> tags don't get closed, though, and IIRC everything else that slash allows does...
[03:05:05] * AndyTheAbsurd guesses that's the basis of NCommander's "theoretically"...
[03:05:07] <NCommander> AndyTheAbsurd, it handles that just fine
[03:05:17] <arti> long live auto complete
[03:05:18] <NCommander> The same code to validate journals is used to validate articles
[03:05:29] <NCommander> Its just a different list of "approved" tags
[03:06:27] <paulej72> NCommander: that regex is one size fits all. and the new one would need to be setup only to work in journals for subsscribers. Also that regex is called by ballance_tags and would need to be setup to use multiple regexes
[03:07:05] <NCommander> paulej72, so new variable and an if statement, its not like there are amillion of those already :-)
[03:07:23] <NCommander> paulej72, perhaps it might be "saner" to just allow <img> tags in story submissions, and then setup a new nexus for the succession game
[03:07:32] * NCommander wanted a subreddit functionality on the site anyway
[03:08:05] * NCommander gets a stick and pokes lithium
[03:08:08] <paulej72> not sure if balance_tags knows where it is called from so we would need to add additional param for journals to call the special regex.
[03:08:36] <NCommander> paulej72, $user is always available. THe reason I ask is there's enough people who want to do a DF successin game, and I'd like to host it on the site as a community thing
[03:08:47] <NCommander> But succession games usually involve images and such
[03:08:49] <paulej72> NCommander: if you want to poke something you should poke helium
[03:09:06] <NCommander> paulej72, bah, I still need to fix/reinstall that >.<;
[03:09:23] <NCommander> paulej72, unless there's something else broken on it
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[03:09:45] <NCommander> Subsentient, how goes your proxying?
[03:09:49] <paulej72> $user is always available, but we only want to use the new regex in jorunals not in comments, submission and other things
[03:10:04] <Subsentient> NCommander: Fixed.
[03:10:13] <NCommander> paulej72, I only want it for journals/submissions, not comments
[03:10:22] <NCommander> I think if we allowed images in comments, someone would rip our heads off
[03:10:58] <chromas> When will we get stock photos with the articles?
[03:11:05] <paulej72> NCommander: that code is the same for all of thoes. balance_tags is uesed everywhere
[03:11:22] <paulej72> need go bathroom bbs
[03:11:31] <NCommander> paulej72, can't be, I can use img tags if I edit an article from backslash
[03:11:37] <NCommander> THey're stripped out otherwise
[03:15:42] <paulej72> admins have a different regex
[03:15:43] <pbnjoe> NCommander, right, will do soon :)
[03:16:09] <NCommander> paulej72, .... that's slagging irritating
[03:16:20] <NCommander> paulej72, its a pity we can't localize admin powers to a specific nexus ...
[03:17:25] * NCommander mulls amount helim
[03:18:15] <NCommander> paulej72, let me see if I can fix helium
[03:18:35] <paulej72> NCommander: I have been over that code. a few times tring to get submission working and to fix the long words issue
[03:18:45] <NCommander> paulej72, that's irritating :-/
[03:18:47] <ciri> Arti xlefay chromas crutchy bacon coffee kobach mattie_p ncommander bytram mrcoolbp paulej72 barrabas zford auto_def khyber hax0rz.
[03:19:00] * NCommander would love to have some sorta sub-slash mechanism for community stuff
[03:19:08] * NCommander vaguely wonders how hard it would be to implement in actuality
[03:22:49] * NCommander fiddles w/ helium
[03:22:55] * arti inhales some
[03:23:12] * AndyTheAbsurd inhales all the remaining helium
[03:23:18] * AndyTheAbsurd gently floats away
[03:23:26] <arti> "what did you say to me bish?"
[03:27:28] * SpallsHurgenson plays with inkscape
[03:29:32] * arti is playing with illustrator
[03:29:48] <paulej72> arti what are you making?
[03:30:11] <arti> my photoshop abilities dwarf my illustrator by far
[03:30:25] <arti> i'm making some line art which i'm drawing on the canvas
[03:30:46] <arti> the goal is to hook it up to a knob/dial which drives the animations
[03:30:55] <arti> if that goes well i'll look into transformations
[03:31:04] <arti> i'd like to see the existing lines morph into the new ones
[03:31:38] <arti> i really like the mozilla site browser thing
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[03:32:00] <chromas> Ooh, how about thread buttons that animate when you mouseover on sn? :D
[03:32:20] <arti> i was looking into browser support and stuff, and it seems to be there
[03:32:28] <arti> IE9 >
[03:34:08] <paulej72> arti: NCommander nixed my hover effects on buttons :(
[03:34:19] juggs|afk is now known as juggs
[03:34:53] <arti> i really dig this site http://buildinamsterdam.com
[03:34:55] <monopoly> Title: Build in Amsterdam
[03:35:10] <arti> scroll down (or use the navigation buttons on the right)
[03:35:42] <arti> arrow keys work too
[03:36:03] <arti> the current projecti 'm working on has oodles of photos to display
[03:36:18] <arti> so the experiment is to replace those with css and vector elements
[03:37:00] <arti> http://snapsvg.io
[03:37:01] <monopoly> Title: Snap.svg - Home
[03:37:07] <arti> scope out the alligators
[03:37:15] <NCommander> paulej72, I remember having a good reason doing that, but damned if I could remember it >.,:
[03:37:29] <arti> "people on mobile devices can't see hover events!"
[03:46:13] <soylentpoutine> <chromas> Ooh, how about thread buttons that animate when you mouseover on sn? :D
[03:46:22] <soylentpoutine> want to know how I know you never have worked with UX design in your life?
[03:47:07] <soylentpoutine> I honestly thought the ugliest SN could be was the day it started
[03:47:27] * juggs reads up a few lines then scuttles off to read up on wtf a nexus is. Ohh there is a typo in Site News: "Interesting in Dwarf Fortress?" should read "Interested in Dwarf Fortress?" perhaps?
[03:47:30] <soylentpoutine> I have been proven wrong on several occasions
[03:47:38] <NCommander> juggs, fixed
[03:47:42] <NCommander> er, fixing
[03:47:42] <swiss> poutine--
[03:47:42] <Bender> karma - poutine: -344
[03:47:47] <swiss> luftballons++
[03:47:47] <Bender> karma - luftballons: 100
[03:47:52] <swiss> I RUINED IT
[03:48:02] <SpallsHurgenson> luftballons--
[03:48:02] <Bender> karma - luftballons: 99
[03:48:06] <SpallsHurgenson> whew!
[03:48:08] <juggs> 99++
[03:48:08] <Bender> karma - 99: 1
[03:48:10] <swiss> phew
[03:48:35] <chromas> Yep; just have to pop one
[03:48:40] <chromas> Or let it float away
[03:48:50] <juggs> I set it free
[03:49:01] <juggs> I loved that balloon
[03:49:05] <juggs> 99--
[03:49:05] <Bender> karma - 99: 0
[03:49:19] <chromas> 69++
[03:49:19] <Bender> karma - 69: 1
[03:49:47] <juggs> strangely..... no takers
[03:50:53] * NCommander might have found the problem w/ helium
[03:52:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> boobs++
[03:52:12] <Bender> karma - boobs: 2
[03:53:25] <paulej72> !whoup luftballons
[03:53:25] <Bender> uppers of luftballons are: Bytram: 66, AndyTheAbsurd: 22, swiss: 4, boioioing: 3, weeds: 3, Blackmoore: 2
[03:54:03] <swiss> juggs: sr20det <3
[03:54:07] <swiss> sr20det
[03:54:10] <swiss> sr20det+=
[03:54:11] <swiss> fff
[03:54:15] <swiss> sr20det++
[03:54:15] <Bender> karma - sr20det: 1
[03:54:22] <swiss> typingAtAnAngle--
[03:54:22] <Bender> karma - typingatanangle: -1
[03:54:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> typingAtAnAngle--
[03:54:53] <Bender> karma - typingatanangle: -2
[03:54:54] <juggs> oh please... sorry everyone
[03:55:03] <juggs> sr20det++
[03:55:03] <Bender> karma - sr20det: 2
[03:56:17] <juggs> sr20det++
[03:56:17] <Bender> karma - sr20det: 3
[03:56:23] <juggs> sr20det++
[03:56:23] <Bender> karma - sr20det: 4
[03:56:23] <juggs> sr20det++
[03:56:24] <Bender> karma - sr20det: 5
[03:56:25] <juggs> sr20det++
[03:56:25] <Bender> karma - sr20det: 6
[03:56:25] <juggs> sr20det++
[03:56:25] <Bender> karma - sr20det: 7
[03:56:26] <juggs> sr20det++
[03:56:26] <Bender> karma - sr20det: 8
[03:56:26] <juggs> sr20det++
[03:56:26] <Bender> karma - sr20det: 9
[03:56:27] <juggs> sr20det++
[03:56:27] <Bender> karma - sr20det: 10
[03:56:40] <SpallsHurgenson> good god, please stop
[03:57:05] <juggs> sr20det++
[03:57:05] <Bender> karma - sr20det: 11
[03:57:23] <swiss> juggs: are we aiming for the hp number?
[03:57:25] <swiss> cause that'll be a while
[03:57:38] <swiss> i'm making around 220-230 on it
[03:57:42] <juggs> lol no - just 20 :D
[03:58:34] * NCommander fiddles
[03:59:02] <SpallsHurgenson> while Rome burns
[03:59:10] <juggs> Amusingly enough it seems my own bouncer doesn't like me flooding and drops my connection in the bin if I try. I need friends like that.
[04:00:26] <swiss> sr20det++
[04:00:26] <Bender> karma - sr20det: 12
[04:00:38] <juggs> swiss: that's pretty much stock hp on a sr20det
[04:01:44] <paulej72> !define sr20dt
[04:02:50] <swiss> juggs: 205 is stock
[04:02:53] <swiss> paulej72: engine code
[04:02:59] <swiss> juggs: well, for my year and turbo
[04:03:24] <paulej72> I googled it, but i saw hp and the first thing I thought was hit points
[04:06:49] * SpallsHurgenson tries talking to the sr20dt
[04:07:02] * SpallsHurgenson shoots an arrow at the sr20det
[04:07:08] * SpallsHurgenson runs away from the sr20det
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[04:12:23] <juggs> swiss: they had a short prod run, I don't think Nissan would have changed up the internals that much in the time. So it's just about getting fuelling and timing right.
[04:13:50] <juggs> My problem is clutch release arms - keep punching holes through them.
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[04:18:45] <swiss> lol
[04:18:51] <swiss> i have a double puck clutch
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[04:20:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Imposing Software Security by Automated Inspectors - http://sylnt.us - have-we-heard-it-all-before?
[04:26:56] <chromas> from the solution-will-be-swift dept
[04:27:00] <juggs> Why? You're just inflicting a stupidly short take-up on yourself for no good reason.
[04:33:40] <juggs> sr20det++
[04:33:40] <Bender> karma - sr20det: 13
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[05:16:44] <chromas> Messages about journal entries don't seem to have links
[05:24:45] <swiss> juggs|afk: came with the car
[05:24:55] <swiss> also, it works really well and is lighter than a stage 2
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[06:01:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Silk Road May Have Reduced Violence in the Drug Trade - http://sylnt.us - just-ddos-rival-gangs
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[06:46:49] <paulej72> chromas: known bug that I have not fullly traced.
[06:49:19] <JamesNZ> $beer Subsentient
[06:49:20] * aqu4 gives Subsentient a cold can of beer
[06:49:42] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: thx
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[07:30:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New OpenSSL Man in the Middle Security Advisory - http://sylnt.us - another-day-another-vulnerability
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[09:01:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - British Office of Nuclear Regulation Raising Safety Limit Of Reactor - http://sylnt.us - nothing-to-see-here
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[09:04:47] <chromas> Dr. crutchy
[09:05:02] <crutchy> where?
[09:05:12] <chromas> in da house
[09:05:26] <chromas> represent, boyeee
[09:05:46] * crutchy prepares to beat up so called "dr crutchy"
[09:06:15] * chromas notes that self-beating in pubic is frowned upon
[09:07:35] <crutchy> self beating in pubic maybe, but self beating in head is commonplace
[09:07:46] <crutchy> NC apparently practices it regularly
[09:08:34] <chromas> perl will do that to a man
[09:08:58] <chromas> It's why CmdrTaco went off to live with the wolves
[09:09:38] * crutchy wonders about the sanity of anyone who calls himself 'CmdrTaco' to begin with
[09:10:06] <chromas> N Commander was already taken
[09:10:36] * crutchy wonders where MCommander is
[09:10:52] <chromas> Then he went to Washington post and created Trove; insane in the mainframe
[09:11:14] <chromas> Last I heard, he was playing a fiddle
[09:11:26] <chromas> inhaling helium
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[09:12:04] <crutchy> he didn't star in a recent music video named 'wrecking ball' by any chance?
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[09:12:21] <chromas> ~time wrecking ball
[09:12:23] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Friday, 6 June 2014, 07:12:15 am
[09:12:23] <exec> [Google] "Wrecking Ball" is a pop ballad; according to the sheet music published at Musicnotes.com by Kobalt Music Publishing America, it is set in common time with a ...
[09:12:42] * chromas invokes web search
[09:12:48] <crutchy> common time with a....?
[09:12:59] <crutchy> hedgehog?
[09:13:08] <crutchy> barbeque sauce?
[09:13:19] <chromas> Yes, I do believe Ron Jeremy was there
[09:13:26] <crutchy> mongoose dog?
[09:13:35] <crutchy> tell me oh mighty searchy one
[09:13:43] <crutchy> googly searchy one
[09:14:16] <crutchy> oh. was he looking after MCommander's clothes while he was swinging around naked like a toolbaag?
[09:15:05] <chromas> "common time with a tempo of 60 beats per minute"
[09:15:11] * chromas is anticlimated
[09:15:17] <chromas> anticlimacticated
[09:16:09] <crutchy> ~monitor
[09:16:12] <exec> exec incoming data monitor enabled
[09:16:22] <crutchy> so xlefay is coming back!
[09:16:31] <chromas> woohoo!
[09:16:45] <JamesNZ> \o/
[09:16:46] <crutchy> any more news about when?
[09:17:22] <crutchy> maybe he's still removing his bear suit
[09:18:01] <crutchy> (i've heard that mobile signal can be shocking in those things)
[09:18:57] <chromas> Yeah. We here in amurika have the right to bear arms, so whenever some jackass walks by with a pair, phone signal drops
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[09:19:23] <crutchy> hi konomi :-)
[09:19:47] <Konomi> hi... ;p
[09:20:01] <crutchy> any word on when xlefay's back proper?
[09:22:21] <chromas> Nothing I've heard
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[09:38:51] <crutchy> [16:36:37] <paulej72> we found xlefay
[09:38:51] <crutchy> [16:37:01] <paulej72> he should be getting back to normal computer access soon
[09:40:25] <chromas> ~define soon
[09:40:27] <exec> [urbandictionary] soon: A word that Jared Leto uses when he doesnt have a f*cken clue when somethings going to come out, or when he wants to piss off the fans.
[09:40:41] <chromas> ~define jared leto
[09:40:42] <exec> [urbandictionary] jared leto: The ultimate pimp dogg himself. Awesome band, awesome actor....Letor owns us all to Oblivion in to the wild with the Mission in his Capricorn
[09:41:01] <chromas> no help there
[09:41:03] <ciri> Crutchy, yes but i can't help mysefl with pizza.
[09:41:45] * crutchy offers some pizza flavored bytes to ciri
[09:42:21] <crutchy> ~time xlefay
[09:42:22] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Friday, 6 June 2014, 07:42:16 am
[09:42:23] <exec> [Google] [edit]. Morgan Le Fay was born in Tintagel Castle, in Cornwall, England, in the days of Camelot, in the Sixth Century A.D. She ...
[09:43:01] <chromas> and then I think the only other thing to happen today was spanonopoly spamming the channel
[09:43:16] <chromas> s/ano/anko/
[09:43:16] <SedBot> <chromas> and then I think the only other thing to happen today was spankonopoly spamming the channel
[09:43:25] <crutchy> lol
[09:43:33] <crutchy> what happened?
[09:43:50] <chromas> Got stuck in a loop with a page whose title was its own url
[09:43:57] <crutchy> oh
[09:43:59] <crutchy> [20:08:09] <monopoly> Title: Nettalk - www.ntalk.de - IRC-Client
[09:44:11] <chromas> oh you were present eh
[09:44:21] <crutchy> saw in log
[09:50:38] <crutchy> it was just testing :-)
[09:51:24] <crutchy> exec has flooded a few times in the last 24 hrs
[09:52:05] <chromas> Yeah but exec is cool and written from scratch
[09:52:49] <chromas> ~define across the street
[09:52:56] <exec> across the street: unable to find definition
[09:53:00] <chromas> what
[09:53:09] <chromas> I just saw it on ud
[09:53:15] <chromas> Not ed, mind you
[09:53:24] * chromas won't admit to that
[09:53:40] <crutchy> i'll have a look at the html of that def in browser
[09:53:53] <chromas> ~define Across the street
[09:53:55] <exec> [urbandictionary] Across the street: Also known as when someone(emo) cuts themselves across the wrist. Emo kids usually do it because they want to die, but truthfully that is not a ver...
[09:54:00] <chromas> Case-sensitive
[09:56:31] <chromas> ~define emo
[09:56:35] <exec> emo: unable to find definition
[09:56:38] <chromas> ~define Emo
[09:56:40] <exec> [urbandictionary] Emo: Genre of softcore punk music that integrates unenthusiastic melodramatic 17 year olds who dont smile, high pitched overwrought lyrics and inaudible...
[09:58:27] <crutchy> changed the code a bit
[09:59:29] <chromas> To try with capital first when nothing else returns true?
[10:01:06] <crutchy> ~define across the street
[10:01:12] <exec> across the street: unable to find definition
[10:01:18] <crutchy> hmm
[10:05:13] <crutchy> ~php chr
[10:05:13] <exec> string chr( int $ascii )
[10:05:56] <chromas> In the days of ascii you could do a bitwise OR
[10:06:00] <crutchy> ~define
[10:06:01] <exec> alias "~define" requires additional trailing argument
[10:08:10] <crutchy> ~php ord
[10:08:11] <exec> int ord( string $string )
[10:10:31] <crutchy> ~define across the street
[10:10:32] <exec> [urbandictionary] Across the street:
[10:10:45] <crutchy> /facepalm
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[10:13:16] <crutchy> ~define across the street
[10:13:17] <exec> [urbandictionary] Across the street: Also known as when someone(emo) cuts themselves across the wrist.
[10:17:18] <crutchy> ~define across the street
[10:17:19] <exec> [urbandictionary] Across the street: Also known as when someone(emo) cuts themselves across the wrist.Emo kids usually do it because they want to die, but truthfully that is not a very productive way to do it.This is where the term "Down the road, not across the street." (also variated with alley and stream/river) originated.Cutting yourself across the street will just be painful. Chances are it won't kill you, unless you're a hemophiliac. You ca
[10:17:51] <crutchy> ~define across the street
[10:17:52] <exec> [urbandictionary] Across the street: Also known as when someone(emo) cuts themselves across the wrist. Emo kids usually do it because they want to die, but truthfully that is not a very productive way to do it. This is where the term "Down the road, not across the street." (also variated with alley and stream/river) originated. Cutting yourself across the street will just be painful. Chances are it won't kill you, unless you're a hemophiliac. You
[10:18:11] <crutchy> ~define across the street
[10:18:12] <exec> [urbandictionary] Across the street: Also known as when someone(emo) cuts themselves across the wrist. Emo kids usually do it because they want to die, but truthfully that is not a very productive way to do it. This is where the term "Down the road, not across the street." (also variated with alley and stream/river) originated. Cutting yourself across the street will just be painful. Chances are it won't kill you, unless you're a hemophiliac. You
[10:18:39] <chromas> oh noes; the elipsis!
[10:18:50] <crutchy> lol yeah
[10:19:30] <crutchy> lol yeah
[10:19:34] <crutchy> ~define across the street
[10:19:35] <exec> [urbandictionary] Across the street: Also known as when someone(emo) cuts themselves across the wrist. Emo kids usually do it because they want to die, but truthfully that is not a very productive way to do it. This is where the term "Down the road, not across the street." (also variated with alley and stream/river) originated. Cutting yourself across the street will just be painful. Chances are it won't kill you, unles...
[10:19:51] <crutchy> didn't realise how long the limit i put was
[10:21:06] <crutchy> ~define donkey pong
[10:21:12] <exec> donkey pong: unable to find definition
[10:21:17] <crutchy> ~define donkey Pong
[10:21:19] <exec> [urbandictionary] Donkey Pong: Same concept as beer pong but only 3 cups have beer, the other 3 have water, if it makes it in the beer of course you drink it, but if it lands in the water you have to take a bong rip. Made By Brandon Doing.
[10:21:39] <crutchy> that's just stupid. why make it case sensitive?
[10:21:46] <crutchy> hmm unless
[10:22:05] <chromas> Is the url you're hitting different from the one for search?
[10:22:36] <crutchy> ~define donkey pong
[10:22:37] <chromas> Also, if my niece threw up a pic of her lips being swollen and I paint her in blackface on the computer, is that racist?
[10:22:42] <exec> donkey pong: unable to find definition
[10:22:55] <crutchy> Location: http://www.urbandictionary.com
[10:22:56] <monopoly> Title: Urban Dictionary: Donkey Pong
[10:23:06] <crutchy> lol stupid header
[10:45:51] <crutchy> ~define donkey pong\
[10:48:22] <crutchy> hmm exec is stuck in an infinite loop of death
[10:48:37] <crutchy> except its not dying :-/
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[10:50:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Harvard Confirms Century-Old Book is Bound in Human Skin - http://sylnt.us - soylent-phone-case
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[10:51:53] <crutchy> ~define donkey pong
[10:52:26] <exec> donkey pong: unable to find definition
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[10:54:21] <chromas> From the century-vs-bookman department
[11:05:30] <crutchy> ~define across the street
[11:05:31] <exec> [urbandictionary] Across the street: Also known as when someone(emo) cuts themselves across the wrist. Emo kids usually do it because they want to die, but truthfully that is not a very productive way to do it. This is where the term "Down the road, not across the street." (also variated with alley and stream/river) originated. Cutting yourself across the street will just be painful. Chances are it won't kill you, unles...
[11:05:49] <crutchy> should work for any case now
[11:05:50] <ciri> : Are you playing the game terrain, goblins work feveriously to stuff treasure into game and fauna, prior to wars.
[11:06:02] <crutchy> ~define acrOss tHe strEet
[11:06:03] <exec> [urbandictionary] Across the street: Also known as when someone(emo) cuts themselves across the wrist. Emo kids usually do it because they want to die, but truthfully that is not a very productive way to do it. This is where the term "Down the road, not across the street." (also variated with alley and stream/river) originated. Cutting yourself across the street will just be painful. Chances are it won't kill you, unles...
[11:07:11] <crutchy> ~define game of thrones
[11:07:13] <exec> [urbandictionary] Game of Thrones: An HBO show based on George R. R. Martin's books. The show's got a great deal of politics, royal intrigues, incest, murder, warfare, violence and sex. Mediæval genre and features lots of swordplay and riding horses. And a lot of violence and sex. Did I mention the sex? And drinking and a dwarf with an obsession with whoring.
[11:07:38] <crutchy> bewbs++
[11:07:38] <Bender> karma - bewbs: 6
[11:08:47] <crutchy> slowly building up a nice little function library
[11:10:02] <crutchy> ~define bewbs
[11:10:04] <exec> [urbandictionary] bewbs: boobs
[11:10:14] <crutchy> that was lame
[11:11:01] <crutchy> ~monitor
[11:11:03] <exec> exec incoming data monitor enabled
[11:17:22] <crutchy> ~q
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[11:24:16] <crutchy> ~part
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[11:28:29] <crutchy> ~monitor
[11:28:31] <exec> exec incoming data monitor enabled
[11:29:31] <crutchy> ~part
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[12:17:51] <crutchy> ~monitor
[12:17:53] <exec> exec incoming data monitor enabled
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[12:51:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - To NASA: Get Your Ass to Mars - http://sylnt.us - setting-achievable-goals
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[13:24:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> NASA to politicians: Stop fucking with our funding and programs.
[13:25:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> Seriously, we'd have a human-rated heavy launch vehicle right now if politicians didn't keep cancelling one program with that goal, then starting an all-new one.
[13:26:46] <crutchy> USA needs another cold war
[13:26:56] <crutchy> would never have got to the moon either without it
[13:28:45] <crutchy> NRC is just an advocacy group with very little lobbying clout, unfortunately
[13:29:24] <crutchy> (and i'm a space nutter... just becoming more pragmatic as i get older)
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[14:06:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:06:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 190
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[14:08:40] <crutchy> coffee++
[14:08:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 191
[14:09:48] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard: is there any limitations on socket buffers (other than disk space)?
[14:10:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends on the implementation
[14:10:09] <crutchy> oh, and hi :-)
[14:10:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin
[14:10:47] <crutchy> i'm working on a throttling system for my bot, but i'm relying on the socket stream for buffering
[14:11:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh, dunno. i expect there definitely is an upper limit but i've no idea what it is in your specific circumstance.
[14:12:44] <crutchy> i was thinking of using php's stream_get_meta_data function to get the amount of unread data in bytes and adjust the throttle per channel based on rate of data in/out etc
[14:12:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd expect it depends on what libraries are being used and what platform they're compiled for.
[14:13:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[14:13:30] <crutchy> this one is just php's standard fsockopen on linux
[14:14:25] <crutchy> seems that max throttle for this irc server is about 0.7 sec
[14:14:35] <crutchy> any less and seem to get throttling warnings
[14:15:07] <crutchy> but that's only with a constant barrage of data going out the socket
[14:16:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, you're worried about the outbound buffer?
[14:17:17] <crutchy> but if i had a constant stream of data waiting to be written to the socket (not sure if that's ever likely) and i limited the rate to one message per 0.7 seconds, but the stream buffer kept building up, i wasn't sure if it could hit a limit
[14:17:26] <crutchy> google wasn't very friendly on this issue
[14:17:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> "The SO_SNDBUF option does define the max send buffer size but this can still be fragmented into multiple packets when sent by the lower level TCP protocol."
[14:18:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> my google-fu is strong
[14:18:30] <crutchy> i'm thinking more about the socket waiting (unsent or unread) data buffer limit
[14:19:30] <crutchy> so if say i only read one line every 5 seconds, but there was a heap of chatter going on in the channel in the meantime so that the socket buffer built up, would it ever reach a limit?
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[14:19:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> eventually but likely not from irc
[14:20:07] <crutchy> i kinda thought that but wasn't sure
[14:20:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> also though, you don't want to throttle reading but actions based on that reading
[14:20:31] <crutchy> i thought there might have been something like a php.ini setting for it, but doesn't seem to be
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[14:21:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> no the limit would be in the underlying os libraries.
[14:21:02] <crutchy> i'm only throttling output from the bot to irc
[14:21:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DARPA Prepares $2 Million Cyber Warfare Challenge for DEF CON 2016. - http://sylnt.us - war-games
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[14:21:18] <crutchy> reading example was just hypothetical
[14:21:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhhhh
[14:22:34] <crutchy> i came up with a simple workaround the other night with Bytram|away, but the buffer i made wasn't being used anyway because the socket is non-blocking
[14:22:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> using irc as the protocol in the example i'd say no way you'd hit it before you had to worry about timeouts
[14:22:56] <crutchy> mkay that's cool
[14:23:18] <crutchy> low level OS socket buffer seems like the simplest option
[14:23:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless you were dccing or something
[14:24:09] <crutchy> its mainly from other processes writing to the socket through their stdout that would fill up the buffer a bit, but yeah prolly not much
[14:24:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> different buffers
[14:24:30] <crutchy> one socket though
[14:24:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> send n receive are separate memory chunks.
[14:24:49] <crutchy> ah yeah
[14:25:07] <crutchy> i'm only dealing with send buffering
[14:25:23] <crutchy> data is read pretty much straight away
[14:25:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> which you theoretically could fill but in practice not gonna happen.
[14:25:45] <crutchy> agreed :-)
[14:26:01] <crutchy> would have to be a lot of ~moo commands
[14:26:05] <crutchy> :-P
[14:26:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[14:27:06] <crutchy> actually the test would be if a number of other users are flooding multiple channels, and exec tries to repeat this in its monitoring channel
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[14:27:50] <crutchy> apart from output throttling, i might look at making a per nick per channel output throttle
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[14:27:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> that would have been a worry in the late 80s/early 90s. not so much now.
[14:28:10] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[14:28:25] <crutchy> similar to the alias flood control
[14:28:34] <crutchy> ah
[14:28:35] <ciri> Swiss, ah oke.
[14:28:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> you only need to worry about ircd throttling you. buffers will never fill if your packets are getting out.
[14:28:50] <crutchy> eah
[14:28:52] <crutchy> yeah
[14:29:13] <crutchy> don't mind getting throttled so much, but don't wanna get kicked
[14:29:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> rgr
[14:29:41] <crutchy> i'm prolly looking into this too much
[14:29:50] <crutchy> that's what i do sometimes :-P
[14:30:12] <crutchy> thanks for help :-)
[14:30:33] <Bytram> crutchy: I'd suggest a round-robin processing of a list of nicks. each nick could have a queue of commands it wants to issue. Step through each nick, in turn, process and remove its first entry in its queue, (if that queue is now empty, delete nick from list).
[14:30:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds like you're going at it from too low a level anyway.
[14:31:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd separate the command creation and sending.
[14:32:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> build the command where it sends now and stick it in a fifo. from there have another loop that sends commands to the server one at a time with a latency of 0.7s or whatever.
[14:33:00] <crutchy> bytram, sounds good
[14:33:41] <Bytram> crutchy: thanks! Was hard to explain, I hope it was clear enough?
[14:34:40] <crutchy> my stupid bot is getting a bit complimicatered, but its fun
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[14:36:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> lousy rotten thunderstorms
[14:36:55] * crutchy lurves thunderstorms
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[14:42:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> me too cept nothing but my modem is on a UPS.
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[14:42:35] <crutchy> ah
[14:42:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should do something about that
[14:43:24] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: HIGHLY recommended! Nothing like knowing I can unplug from the wall and move things around without worry!
[14:43:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> used to have one but the battery went out and i've been lazy about replacing it
[14:44:41] <Bytram> In fact, let me see if I can track this down...
[14:45:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrmf.... enough wattage to keep my stuff alive is going to cost a few bucks
[14:45:27] <Bytram> Found it!!! You ain't gonna bleieve this one (Sorry it's in German; but quite understandable) http://www.youtube.com
[14:45:28] <monopoly> Title: Moving online webserver using public transport - YouTube
[14:46:58] <Bytram> they move a still-running web server from one datacenter to another one, without cutting it off from the internet, in elevators, up stairs, down the road, and on the subway/bus (IIRC)
[14:47:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> nifty
[14:49:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, got a notification bout NC's new journal entry but isn't showing on the new journal entries feed
[14:49:37] <Bytram> was hoping you'd like it! Those are my kind of nerds!
[14:51:30] <crutchy> i could do that by tethering my latop to my phone, but i think the guys in your story are on a much higher level
[14:52:09] <Bytram> crutchy: IIRC, they DID tether to a cell-phone so the server could still support its users while they were transporting it.
[14:52:37] <crutchy> oh. well that's a piece of cake then :-P
[14:52:56] <Bytram> ack pthbt!
[14:53:06] <crutchy> imagine google.com doing that lol
[14:53:28] <Bytram> they might need a larger push-cart
[14:53:49] <crutchy> dammit. exec offline (can't use ~translate)
[14:54:14] <crutchy> i was thinking a few shipping containers
[14:54:44] <crutchy> is there a web server in the ISS?
[14:54:59] <Bytram> crutchy: that might work, but I'd like to see how they maintain connectivity with a cell-phone
[14:55:06] <crutchy> lol
[14:55:12] <crutchy> satellite dish
[14:55:23] <crutchy> ^big cell phone
[14:55:50] <Bytram> crutchy: sat dish could, possibly, work but I don't think they'd like the extra lag.
[14:56:06] <crutchy> hmm yeah prolly
[14:56:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> ooooh, 900W ups that uses a 12v battery. means i could replace it with a deep cycle marine battery and have one hell of a ups.
[14:56:53] <crutchy> connect your pyewta up to an exercise bike with a dyno
[14:57:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> human body can only produce about 100W
[14:57:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> give or take for personal fitness
[14:57:41] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: outsource 9 people
[14:57:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> or use one of those stupid little department-store boxen that usually have 90W power supplies.
[14:58:02] <crutchy> guinea pigs in those little running wheel thingys
[14:58:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, they'd all be getting sweaty and stink up the joint
[14:58:27] <Bytram> really, REALLY *BIG* guinea pigs ;)
[14:58:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> you don't even need guinea pigs! Apparently if you put wheels outside, squirrels and rats and things will run in them!
[14:58:37] <crutchy> but they're sooo cute :-P
[14:59:12] <crutchy> i feel defenseless without my stupid bot here with me :-/
[14:59:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> build a new bot
[14:59:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> could get really funky with the cheese-whiz and throw a half dozen marine batteries at it. run for days.
[14:59:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> name him Flexo
[14:59:48] <crutchy> like playing starcraft with only marines
[15:00:21] <crutchy> solar cell
[15:00:25] <crutchy> ooh
[15:00:27] <crutchy> wind turbine
[15:01:13] <crutchy> that way when its stormy you can say "haha stfu stupid weather... i'm getting something outta you for nuthin! mwahahaha!!!"
[15:01:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> fsck green energy. ima charge it with a generator that runs off the distilled suffering of hippies.
[15:01:38] <crutchy> powered by flares?
[15:01:55] <crutchy> and choof
[15:02:11] <crutchy> and tie dye
[15:02:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, put hippies on the hamster wheels and scare them with a bar of soap
[15:02:58] <crutchy> their hair might get tangled in the bearing
[15:03:29] <crutchy> just use a perpetual motion machine
[15:03:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> "Can't you afford to cut your hair? My friend and I will cut it off for free." -- NOFX
[15:04:25] <crutchy> i'm actually a believer in perpetual motion, but i'm a lot more pragmatic about it than the kooks you see on youtube
[15:04:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[15:04:38] <monopoly> Title: NOFX - Always Hate Hippies - YouTube
[15:04:59] <crutchy> permanent magnetism isn't that well understood
[15:05:17] <crutchy> and the laws of physics are flawed
[15:05:56] <crutchy> ...they were invented by humans
[15:06:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> physics are fine, it's friction that gets you every time when you try for perpetual motion.
[15:06:35] <crutchy> i'm interested in what keeps electrons moving
[15:06:50] <crutchy> i know its heat
[15:06:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee
[15:06:55] <ciri> Probably lost a day cleaning up a line of coffee grounds on a diet.
[15:06:58] <crutchy> lol
[15:08:10] <crutchy> but if you can take advantage of latent heat (even in deep space) then it needn;t technically violate any laws, but for all intennsive purposes may as well be 'perpetual motion'
[15:08:44] <crutchy> permanent magnets are awesome
[15:09:28] <crutchy> and they work unless you cool them to absolute zero
[15:09:49] <crutchy> to stop those little coffee bugs
[15:10:01] <Bytram> crutchy: s/intennsive/intents and/
[15:10:29] <Bytram> or did I just get wooshed?
[15:10:55] <crutchy> its in the urban dictionary so it must be ok :-P
[15:11:40] <Bytram> lol
[15:11:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me, i should put farticle in there
[15:11:55] <crutchy> i don't know anyone who actually says 'intents and purposes', even if thats what its meant to be
[15:12:03] <crutchy> farticle++
[15:12:03] <Bender> karma - farticle: 1
[15:12:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> <--- does
[15:12:09] <crutchy> there's the first one
[15:12:14] <Bytram> likewise
[15:12:15] <SirFinkus> people are retarded
[15:12:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> people--
[15:12:25] <Bender> karma - people: -1
[15:12:28] <Bytram> SirFinkus: s/people/some people/
[15:12:28] <SedBot> <Bytram> <SirFinkus> some people are retarded
[15:12:50] <SirFinkus> s/some people/most people/
[15:12:53] <crutchy> a wise man once said to me: 'people are c*un*s'
[15:13:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds pretty wise to me
[15:13:21] <crutchy> it was my brother during a bender
[15:13:25] <crutchy> :-P
[15:13:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> lousy weather. there's rain between me and my coffee pot.
[15:13:50] <crutchy> oh shit that sounds bad
[15:14:08] <crutchy> fck the weather dude. save your coffee
[15:14:15] <Bytram> crutchy: i don't get it? c*un*s ==> chunks clunks counts
[15:14:40] <crutchy> it makes more sense when youre drunk :-P
[15:15:05] <crutchy> but yeah lol now i see what you did there :-P
[15:15:10] <Bytram> that rules me out then.
[15:15:45] <crutchy> i think it must be krunks
[15:16:10] <crutchy> ~define krunks
[15:16:23] <crutchy> :-(
[15:17:36] <crutchy> lol crunks
[15:17:49] <crutchy> fck i must be half asleep
[15:17:58] <crutchy> can i use that as an excuse?
[15:18:09] <Bytram> half an excuse?
[15:18:29] <crutchy> or half-arsed excuse
[15:18:36] <Bytram> interesting article on turbulence in gravity around a black hole: http://phys.org
[15:18:37] <monopoly> Title: New research shows that gravitational fields around black holes might eddy and swirl
[15:18:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, braving the cats n dogs rain in search of a coffee refill. if i don't come back, it was probably because i was well grounded and holding a metal shafted umbrella.
[15:19:30] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: snd a taxi to pick it up for you
[15:19:32] <crutchy> hmm i think the physicists that came up with that were staring at their coffee cup too long and got confused into thinking that their coffee was a black hole
[15:20:48] <crutchy> you should train your dog to bring it
[15:20:56] <Bytram> afk brb
[15:21:01] <crutchy> actually, wtf is your coffee pot doing outside?
[15:22:34] <crutchy> that monopoly title thing is pretty handy i think
[15:22:58] <crutchy> especially cos i hate reading tfa
[15:30:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not, i am. shop building.
[15:31:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> house has the coffee, shop building has this computer.
[15:33:16] <crutchy> dig a tunnel between the two
[15:33:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> should just hire a minion
[15:34:29] <crutchy> actually you should so dig a bunch of tunnels under your house so you can pretend you're in the death star... that would be awesome!
[15:35:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> your ideas are intriguing to me and i wish to subscribe to your newsletter
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[15:53:45] <Blackmoore> hmm.. perhaps we can also build him a reactor.
[15:54:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> no unshielded, straight line exhaust ports though
[15:57:13] <Blackmoore> but they will have to big enough to fit the repair bots into.
[15:58:06] <Blackmoore> we wouldnt be good minions if we werent thinking ahead to our inevitable betrayal
[15:58:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff
[16:00:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Evidence Of Planet That Formed Moon May have been Found In Rock Samples - http://sylnt.us - theory-of-theia
[16:02:23] <Bytram> Blackmoore: just need to create smaller repair bots, is all.
[16:04:41] <Blackmoore> I'm not sure i can build an effective repairbot smaller than an R2
[16:05:15] <Blackmoore> unless youve got a really dense energy storage device.
[16:05:42] <Blackmoore> damn thing does have to spot weld.
[16:08:39] <Blackmoore> *expect it to look like a spider the size of R2*
[16:12:28] <Bytram> beam the energy down the hole to the repair bot
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[16:12:45] <Bytram> bzzt bzzt oops. No more spider. Sorry!
[16:12:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, it struck me a few years back that R2/R4 units aren't very well suited to repair work.
[16:13:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> s/R4/R5/
[16:13:03] <SedBot> <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, it struck me a few years back that R2/R5 units aren't very well suited to repair work.
[16:13:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> or whatever. (The droid that Luke says has a "bad motivator"? It's actually referred to as R5-D4 in...something. I forget what.)
[16:17:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> beats me but it was definitely named R5-D4 on the action figure package
[16:17:39] <Popeidol> I assumed the r2 units are the raspberry pi of the age
[16:18:30] <Popeidol> everybody has one, they're great for a whole bunch of enthusiast things, but you probably can't replace all the other bots just yet
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[16:19:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> Popeidol: yeah but they're described as "astromech" droids but have a body shape totally unsuited to doing any sort of mechanical work.
[16:19:46] <Popeidol> 'hey guys somebody fitted their R2 unit with functional thrusters, turns out you can run them over two GPIO pins'
[16:20:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> A spider-bot that has multiple legs that can brace against a spaceship hull and/or deploy multiple manipulators would be a much better design.
[16:21:07] <Popeidol> it may well come down to 'it's hard to fit a dwarf in a mechanical spider'
[16:21:07] <ciri> ~Translate ru is that already how it works for me, "it's nothin' personal. I could see with a 5400 rpm hard disk, somewhere.
[16:23:34] <Blackmoore> a spider design with the "feet" designed like the surgface of geko feet.
[16:23:55] <Blackmoore> Popeidol: you are likely right
[16:25:54] <Blackmoore> AndyTheAbsurd: they would have to have multiple manipulators - like an r2 does. but the legs are important to brace the unit so you can pull out/push in replacement modules.
[16:26:11] <Blackmoore> or steady the unit to weld or cut
[16:26:56] <Blackmoore> still has to be big enough to house all of those manipulators, and perhaps maintain those.
[16:27:22] <Blackmoore> and you cant TIG weld without a spool of wire.
[16:28:13] <Blackmoore> the "space" required for computing is tiny comparitvely
[16:28:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah I've got an Arduino Micro on my desk right now, it's pretty freaking sweet for something so small.
[16:29:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> but of course we don't really know any of the details of computing in the Star Wars universe.
[16:29:26] <Blackmoore> yeah, those are.
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[16:36:36] <Blackmoore> frankly tho - you have to be on-par, or better than we have right now to make those droids.
[16:36:44] <Blackmoore> hardware wise.
[16:37:32] <Blackmoore> software on the otherhand is advanced - we may have Siri - but itisnt even on par with a half assembled 3po
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[16:50:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i could use a wee bit o perl and rcon to relay irc chatter to myself in minecraft...
[16:51:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> I believe that a friend of mine was trying to do something like
[16:51:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> dylanwh on github if you want to contact him
[16:52:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> or he's usually in the Orlando-area Perl IRC channel, irc.perl.org/#orlando I think.
[16:52:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, s'easy really. already wrote a script to flip through different scoreboards via rcon.
[16:53:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think his problem was that he was trying to talk to an SSL-secured IRC server
[16:53:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> and I'm not sure that he ever got it working
[16:53:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh bleh. i was just going to drop a perl script in my client not write a bot.
[16:54:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> may do it after a bit. been a while since i did any xchat scripting.
[16:59:46] <Blackmoore> let me know how it goes. I can dual screen when I'm home running MC, but i wouldnt be able to keep up in IRC.
[17:00:53] <Blackmoore> *wish i had time and budget to build the damn repair droid. i bet Nasa would love it*
[17:12:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Gravitational Fields Around Black Holes Might Eddy and Swirl - http://sylnt.us - swirls-are-swell
[17:15:45] <Blackmoore> gravity surfing! Cowabunga!
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[17:42:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[17:42:25] <Bender> karma - coffee: 192
[17:43:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> coffee++
[17:43:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 193
[17:43:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> coffee++
[17:43:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 194
[17:43:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> coffee++
[17:43:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 195
[17:43:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> coffee++
[17:43:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 196
[17:43:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> coffee++
[17:43:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 197
[17:43:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> coffee++
[17:43:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 198
[17:43:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> coffee++
[17:43:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 199
[17:43:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> coffee++
[17:43:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 200
[17:44:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> there, I think that is enough karma for coffee.
[17:46:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee can never have enough karma
[17:46:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[17:46:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 201
[17:56:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, that should have it
[17:59:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> perl++
[17:59:30] <Bender> karma - perl: 1
[17:59:55] <mrcoolbp> slashcode--
[17:59:55] <Bender> karma - slashcode: -1
[18:00:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> perl--
[18:00:02] <Bender> karma - perl: 0
[18:00:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice, working
[18:00:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm okay with there being More Than One Way To Do It.
[18:00:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> The problem I have with Perl is that there's using 1,000,000 ways to do it, and 99.95% of them are unreadable messes.
[18:02:21] <mrcoolbp> AndyTheAbsurd: ah so you've looked at slashcode
[18:02:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> perl illegibility must be a people who aren't me thing.
[18:03:07] * mrcoolbp signs TheMightyBuzzard up for SoylentStaff without his consent
[18:05:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd just get fired. can't be arsed to keep up with noticing the changes and manually updating the db apparently.
[18:07:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> the code n me get along fine. the db and me hate each other.
[18:10:04] * mrcoolbp reluctantly removes TheMightyBuzzard from SoylentStaff
[18:10:05] <mrcoolbp> = (
[18:10:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> that reminds me, i should have a look at why NC's latest journal entry isn't showing up in the journal entries feed.
[18:15:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, nevermind, it is
[18:15:44] <mrcoolbp> = )
[18:17:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> it was just out of order for some reason.
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[18:24:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> Blackmoore, http://pastebin.com
[18:24:29] <monopoly> Title: [Perl] xchat/hexchat to minecraft server relay script - Pastebin.com
[18:25:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> currently it'll probably truncate long lines of text. will fix that later.
[18:29:16] <chromas> Hey, looks like I didn't spam the channel overnight. Woo-hoo
[18:29:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> go you
[18:29:47] <chromas> Kind of a sad thing to be happy about :)
[18:30:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> victory is victory
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[19:42:46] <Blackmoore> Thanks TheMightyBuzzard I'll give that a shot later
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[20:05:44] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, http://soylentnews.org
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[20:07:42] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Beastie Boys Win Commercial Copyright Lawsuit Against Energy-Drink Maker "Monster" - http://sylnt.us - beware-of-the-beasties
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[21:06:20] <Blackmoore> hi nc!
[21:06:31] <Blackmoore> nope. can't see you from here :P
[21:06:33] <ciri> I can only imagine the - part is where the weather finally allowed me to name my character creation, but fuck that</p></body></html.
[21:11:29] <mrcoolbp1> Blackmoore: NCommander is here with me in central MA
[21:24:25] <Blackmoore> kinda tough to see him from the couple of thousand miles away. :P
[21:25:21] * NCommander has a post that's probably going to cause a LOT of feedback
[21:26:04] <Blackmoore> is he getting free meal out of you too? NC - let me know when you're back out this wayand we'll get the rest of the WNY people out too.
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[21:30:30] <JamesNZ> NCommander: What's it about?
[21:31:23] <NCommander> JamesNZ, doing passive stat collection with piwik
[21:31:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Verizon Unhappy About Netflix Congestion Message - http://sylnt.us - six-of-one-and-half-a-dozen-of-the-other?
[21:31:38] * NCommander is asking the community for permission before doing so
[21:31:55] <JamesNZ> Ah, I see :P
[21:32:20] * JamesNZ 's friend uses piwik for his site
[21:32:22] <ciri> Greets his friend artificialru in the secret underground lair, richard sheds his cover persona and returns stuff in different formats (true story.
[21:32:22] <ar> at least piwik isn't google anal
[21:32:27] <NCommander> JamesNZ, mrcoolbp1 also got to see how quickly I crap out posts
[21:32:29] <NCommander> :-)
[21:32:33] <ar> analytics*
[21:32:39] <arti> tgif
[21:32:48] <JamesNZ> NCommander: Hah :P
[21:33:42] <mrcoolbp1> it was mind boggling
[21:33:52] * chromas went to look it up: Service Temporarily Unavailable
[21:36:20] <NCommander> JamesNZ, mrcoolbp1 got to watch me crap out 400 words in like 20 minutes
[21:37:53] <JamesNZ> NCommander: Crap out as in post?
[21:38:04] <Blackmoore> we ought to perpetuate "google Anal"
[21:38:12] <NCommander> Blackmoore, ew
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[21:39:06] <Blackmoore> *shrug* Google Anal, or "I cant belive it's not Santorum"
[21:39:18] <NCommander> Blackmoore, would go well with their TISP project
[21:39:27] <Blackmoore> *nods*
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[21:39:32] <NCommander> Blackmoore, http://www.google.com
[21:39:32] <monopoly> Title: Welcome to Google TiSP
[21:40:17] <JamesNZ> XD
[21:40:25] <Blackmoore> i remeber that.. and it hit me that might not be such a bad idea.. if you cant get the permission to run the fiber on the telephone lines.. take it to the sewer.
[21:41:33] <NCommander> Blackmoore, well, you know, 99.9% of stuff on the net is crap
[21:41:44] <NCommander> Might as well cut out the middle man and get it straight from the source
[21:43:25] <Blackmoore> makes sense to me.
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[21:47:56] <mrcoolbp1> yay, martyb is here now!
[21:48:48] <NCommander> Seems if we want a meeting, we just need to meet a mrcoolbp1 space
[21:49:08] * NCommander evil laughs
[21:55:16] <mrcoolbp1> paulej72, NCommander is wondering if you are around
[21:55:39] <Blackmoore> http://www.npr.org
[21:55:40] <monopoly> Title: Sword Fights Break Out In A Clash At India's Golden Temple : The Two-Way : NPR
[21:56:47] <Blackmoore> Blackmoore misses the old days when he too could raid temples armed only with a sword and a quick wit
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[22:00:58] <arti> interesting story
[22:01:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Asking Permission: Running piWik To Get An Idea About Our Usage - http://sylnt.us - seeing-how-big-our-userbase-is
[22:05:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> i wouldn't sweat it. it's nothing that couldn't be collected anyway if SN weren't using a load balancer.
[22:07:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> for that matter, just having an image like the logo served up by a host not behind the load balancer would give you pretty much all of that information.
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[22:26:39] <NCommander> !current-uid
[22:26:39] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4433, owned by pavelthesecond
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[22:35:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> kinda makes you wonder what the UID for pavelthefirst is, doesn't it?
[22:37:51] <Blackmoore> start ringing bells? no that Pavlov.
[23:00:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Human Bioluminescence - http://sylnt.us - glowing-with-health
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[23:36:01] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: ping
[23:40:33] <crutchy> o.0
[23:49:04] <NCommander> paulej72, you about?