#Soylent | Logs for 2014-05-14

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[00:02:19] <paulej72> http://dev.soylentnews.org
[00:02:32] <paulej72> This is the feed we ar looking for
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[00:16:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> saw that
[00:17:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> turns out it's DAMNED easy to get an rss 2 feed going though. change one character
[00:18:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> still does that spurious encode of the description though, so you have to see html code.
[00:19:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> so do we just point people to the atom feed or do we update the rss to 2.0 as well?
[00:19:50] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I am tempted just to do atom feed.
[00:20:09] <paulej72> HTML works properly in atom feed
[00:20:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> up to you, i already figured out how to fix the html this morning, so it's minutes of work.
[00:20:41] <paulej72> We would need to run an article to let people know of the change
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[00:22:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're already both being served up on live, just minus the setting to turn on <description>
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[00:22:33] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: the rss 2.0 feed is substantially differen from RSS 1. so that whole routien would need to be reorganized, but the change to update_backend is easy
[00:22:56] <paulej72> It is up to you if you submit a change I’ll take it
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[00:23:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> i may, it appears most of the lifting was already done and just passing it a 2 instead of a 1 in the right spot got me a 2.0 feed
[00:24:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> for now i'd set dev to atom though cause that's instant.
[00:25:24] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: does it actually give you proper rss2.0 or jsut a file that says 2.0, but is 1.0. 2.0 and 1.0 are very differnt beasts
[00:25:26] <ciri> Just given up on some rant about something and the guys i work with jquery 2.0 spec.
[00:25:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually gives me proper rss 2.0 with pubDate and all that lot
[00:26:00] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: can you pastebin the code you get from the file
[00:26:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> namespace is the only thing i see wrong with it
[00:27:05] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: that might break some rss readers if the namespace does not match the rss version
[00:27:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i found the setting for that earlier though so it's easy enough to change. it even had the proper 2.0 namespace already in the code.
[00:27:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like they almost had it done then quit
[00:30:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> take me a few, i don't have a proper gui on the dev server and i have it set up slightly odd
[00:30:23] <paulej72> the other issue is that the code puts out dc:creator and such for 1.0, but this is not needed for 2.0. It should be a differnt element
[00:33:45] <SirFinkus> just finished A Canticle for Leibowitz in one sitting, good shit
[00:38:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://pastebin.com
[00:40:34] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - The State of OpenGL Drivers: Evil, Buggy or Slow - http://sylnt.us - everyone-knows-intamvdia-are-the-best
[00:41:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> no dc: nonsense, only non-standards are the namespace and the slash: bits
[00:45:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yeah, for now i'd say switch to atom and set rdfitemdesc to 1 on dev
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[01:08:39] <paulej72> OK Ihad to do it, I updated a bunch of vars on produciton. This fixed some outstanding bugs with rss feeds and printed pages. I have the rss feeds doing 50 stories up from 10. the current size of the rss file is 8k.
[01:09:02] <paulej72> Need to add an atom feed button to the footer now as well
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[01:20:02] <Lagg> NCommander: Mmm that in-feed summary markup
[01:20:13] <Lagg> Needs less escaping
[01:24:22] <paulej72> use the atom feed http://soylentnews.org
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[01:33:19] <Lagg> Oh holy crap an atom feed?
[01:33:26] <Lagg> Why have I been using RSS! When did this happen!
[01:33:29] <Lagg> !
[01:33:55] <Lagg> Awesome! It even uses xhtml summaries properly
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[01:52:09] <arti> greetings james
[01:52:20] * arti manifests more goat
[01:53:28] <JamesNZ> Moin' arti :)
[01:53:43] <arti> moinmoin
[01:54:48] <Blackmoore> @ Lagg - that feed JUST happened.
[01:57:45] <Blackmoore> night folks
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[02:06:00] <SirFinkus> arti we should play borderlands sometime
[02:06:21] <arti> ya i'm down, what levels are you rocking?
[02:06:38] <arti> maybe later this evening
[02:06:46] <SirFinkus> 1 sec, I'll check
[02:06:52] <arti> my "main" is level 61 or 62
[02:07:10] <SirFinkus> I don't think I have anyone maxed out yet
[02:07:34] <SirFinkus> I always get bored and try another class
[02:07:55] <arti> i'm in a groove with axton
[02:08:28] <SirFinkus> he's fun
[02:08:37] <SirFinkus> I'm having a blast with that one girl
[02:08:41] <arti> the siren?
[02:08:44] <SirFinkus> forgot the name
[02:08:44] <arti> or the mechromancer
[02:08:49] <SirFinkus> yeah, mechromancer
[02:08:59] <SirFinkus> stupid fun
[02:09:01] <arti> sweet
[02:10:00] <SirFinkus> I just point my guns in the general directin of people and they die
[02:10:43] <paulej72> fixed the bad encode on dev http://dev.soylentnews.org will need to wait on prod
[02:10:47] <SirFinkus> 42 axton and 41 mechro
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[02:25:55] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I think we will not need RSS 2.0 as I now have RSS 1.0 working properly. I encoded the description with a CDATA block instead of entities.
[02:26:16] <paulej72> Off to get food.
[02:34:01] <SpallsHurgenson> I think I shall eat a microwavable burrito
[02:34:50] <paulej72> maybe I should get some of thoes :)
[02:35:17] <paulej72> but they will make me more conservative if you know what I mean
[02:35:29] * arti o.o
[02:35:38] * arti will stay upwind
[02:35:40] <ciri> Chromas: honestly just trying to stay afloat, but i haven't said crap for ages ;p.
[02:36:11] <SpallsHurgenson> No! Bad mr paulej72! these are my microwavable burritos!
[02:36:11] <paulej72> that has been the most normal thing I have seen ciri say
[02:36:37] <arti> hahaha
[02:36:42] <paulej72> I was planning on stopping at the store SpallsHurgenson
[02:36:58] <arti> but now that he's so defensive, maybe his are better
[02:37:02] * SpallsHurgenson hovers protectively over his food :)
[02:37:05] <arti> KILL. THE. BATMAN.
[02:37:21] <arti> it's taco tuesday
[02:39:03] <SpallsHurgenson> can't talk, eating
[02:39:35] * arti reads this in homer's voice
[02:42:31] <SpallsHurgenson> h-h-h-hot! burnt the roof of my mouth!
[02:42:59] <arti> the roof, the roof, the roof of my mouth is on fire~
[02:43:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> dead bug = dead bug, doesn't matter to me how it got squashed.
[02:43:22] <arti> i like elaborate traps, indiana jones style
[02:44:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> for bugs? nah, chemical warfare is more fun.
[02:45:28] <Subsentient> You all lack compassion. I bet you squish crickets that come in on cold nights.
[02:45:35] <arti> nah
[02:45:47] <arti> i avoid snails and beggars
[02:45:59] <arti> ants and roaches are public enemy #1
[02:46:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yeah, they're slimy when you step on em
[02:46:15] <arti> enh, i'm more alarmed at the pop
[02:46:20] <Subsentient> I won't even kill the tiny black sugar ants that come into the kitchen sometimes. They're harmless and they don't bite so why should I hurt them?
[02:46:20] <arti> it's a meal for something else though
[02:46:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> because they're vermin. you know, like congressmen except legal to kill.
[02:47:13] <arti> the truth is out there, subsentient is a lover of bugs
[02:47:17] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: lol
[02:47:20] <arti> quickly, everone abandon his software
[02:47:26] <Subsentient> lolllllll
[02:47:42] <Subsentient> No I just don't like to place worth on a life.
[02:47:50] <Subsentient> e.g. more than another
[02:48:08] <arti> i totally have a heirarchy
[02:48:14] <arti> parents and SO are pretty much tied
[02:48:15] <ciri> Now i'm not a fan of the code is directly tied to the higher the confidence.
[02:48:22] * arti pets ciri
[02:48:47] <arti> i'm so glad i don't have children
[02:48:57] <Subsentient> arti: The worth to you and the worth in general are not the same thing :^)
[02:48:58] <arti> they're cool, don't get me wrong, but the hilarity of school issues
[02:49:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> same here. goes non-sentient animals, people, sentient animals that want to harm me, sentient animals that don't want to harm me.
[02:49:21] <arti> i respect bigger animals
[02:49:30] <SpallsHurgenson> sugar ants add much needed protein to my cakes and cookies :)
[02:49:42] <Subsentient> SpallsHurgenson: LOL
[02:49:44] <Subsentient> Nice one
[02:50:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, so would bacon.
[02:50:09] <Subsentient> Bleck
[02:50:15] <arti> Glen bleck.
[02:50:25] <Subsentient> $burrito arti
[02:50:26] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at arti
[02:50:33] * arti dodges W style
[02:50:42] <arti> shoedodge.gif
[02:50:53] * Subsentient won't ask
[02:50:59] * arti won't tell
[02:51:01] <SpallsHurgenson> you can eat most lifeforms... except politicians. those have no nutritive value
[02:51:13] * SpallsHurgenson has tried
[02:51:51] <Subsentient> SpallsHurgenson: They're high fiber too, being full of shit and all.
[02:52:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> so's grass. so why can't i run over politicians with a lawnmower?
[02:52:48] <Subsentient> lol
[02:52:49] <arti> because they might dull the blades
[02:52:54] <Subsentient> arti++
[02:52:54] <deadpeas> karma - arti: 42
[02:52:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, right
[02:53:06] <Subsentient> They're already pretty dull themselves
[02:53:08] <arti> they're pretty dense
[02:53:30] <arti> so dense, they're weapons grade stupid
[02:53:55] <Subsentient> My sugar ants have more cognitive skills
[02:58:36] * SpallsHurgenson tries to think up random encounters for Saturday next's game
[03:00:20] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Average Americans Think They're Smarter Than The Average American - http://sylnt.us - above-average
[03:00:52] <SpallsHurgenson> don't most people think they are smarter than average?
[03:03:19] <n1> i think it would depend on the culture you were born into
[03:03:43] <SirFinkus> I probably used to be, but I'm pretty sure I'm getting dumber
[03:04:20] <n1> im pretty sure i'm stupid, but i dont have the data to compare my stupidity to the 'average' person
[03:04:28] <n1> so i wouldn't like to say if i'm better or not than average.
[03:04:45] <SpallsHurgenson> IRC does that to a person :)
[03:04:54] <SirFinkus> well, I have data
[03:04:59] <SirFinkus> my mom says I'm the smartest
[03:05:09] <SirFinkus> so it's not just me
[03:05:47] <n1> heheh
[03:06:06] <n1> TFA has a link at the end http://www.apa.org
[03:06:19] <SirFinkus> I'm super funny too, all my friends say I should do stand up comedy
[03:06:51] <n1> " Western cultures have a habit of inflating their self-worth, past research has shown."
[03:07:26] <SpallsHurgenson> well, mighty whitey has done a lot of stuff of which he can be proud :)
[03:07:52] <SirFinkus> I'm proud of myself for making a pun in the self-driving car article
[03:08:08] <SirFinkus> i'm pretty easy to impress with myself
[03:08:21] <n1> there's a self-driving car article?
[03:08:41] <SirFinkus> yep, the one before the smarter than average one
[03:09:10] <SirFinkus> I made a pun about race conditions, you should read it
[03:09:13] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't want my car to think it's smarter than the average american
[03:09:50] <n1> well, my poor excuse for not noticing that is, not one of my stories although i may have signed off on it ¬_¬
[03:10:03] <SirFinkus> I would, it may value self-preservation over everything else
[03:10:28] * SpallsHurgenson doesn't remember seeing that story on slashdot
[03:11:17] <n1> we can wait for papas fritas to write it...
[03:14:20] <SirFinkus> but really, 55% isn't that amazing
[03:14:42] <SirFinkus> I bet the 5% who think they're smarter but really aren't are the dumbest of the ones surveyed
[03:15:20] <n1> i think studies on it have said that people who are smarter underestimate
[03:15:32] <n1> so the chances are a lot of the people who think they're smarter, are not.
[03:15:42] <n1> while the people who think they're average, are probably smarter.
[03:16:26] * SpallsHurgenson drools and pisses himself "I must be a genius then!" :)
[03:17:10] <n1> thats what i took away from it anyway
[03:17:41] <SpallsHurgenson> this really isn't news; I remember reading these conclusions back in Omni magazine :)
[03:19:27] <n1> lots of things have been covered before, and i'd agree if it was referencing a survey from the 80's
[03:19:54] <SpallsHurgenson> Hell, “The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” ― William Shakespeare :)
[03:20:21] <n1> also, if we didnt run every story that someone thinks isn't news or interesting - we literally wouldn't have any stories.
[03:21:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> hah...I could just dump all the things that I just opened from my TinyTinyRSS instance at you; you'd have a bunch of content then.
[03:21:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> Although I don't think the links to John Scalzi's blog would make the cut...
[03:21:52] <n1> and things being 'obvious' are all well and good, but it's nice to have some data to go along with it and if data from the 1980's and 2014 are consistent thats interesting in itself.
[03:22:01] <paulej72> my is smarter than the average american and it is a 2005 Impala
[03:22:09] <paulej72> my car
[03:22:24] <n1> maybe what you read in omni magazine could be an interesting comment, to see if more or less people think they're smarter than average compared to 30 years ago.
[03:22:35] <SpallsHurgenson> I miss the talking cars from the '80s. "Your door... is ajar. Your door... is ajar."
[03:22:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> I had a 1979 Chevy Nova that I'm convinced was smarter than most modern Republicans.
[03:23:00] <paulej72> do you realize how much intellegence is built into the ECU of a modern car
[03:23:15] <n1> paulej72, sadly i do
[03:23:23] <n1> it reminds me every time i turn the ignition on
[03:23:33] <SpallsHurgenson> stupid cars don't know that doors are doors, not jars :)
[03:23:43] <paulej72> AndyTheAbsurd: http:soylentnews.org/index.atom
[03:24:31] <paulej72> SpallsHurgenson: I say that everytime it tells me that about my door or trunk
[03:24:52] <n1> not quite sure whats wrong with it saying 'x is open'
[03:24:57] <n1> because i'm sure thats what mine does
[03:25:09] <paulej72> shit my connection is a bit laggier than normal
[03:25:32] <n1> and with the little graphic, just incase you didnt know where the door was
[03:25:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> paulej72: soylentnews is one of my regular news sources that is NOT in tt-rss, because I check it regularly throughout the day. Stuff that updates irregularly, or infrequently, or just that I wouldn't think to check regularly, is what gets put in tt-rss.
[03:26:25] <paulej72> my car lets me know when a tire is low, but it does not tell me which one. I know it knows exactly which one, but it’s being a prick about it.
[03:26:35] <n1> AndyTheAbsurd, if your tt-rss brings up interesting, it will always be appreciated if you submit it.
[03:26:44] <n1> lol, paulej72
[03:26:46] <ciri> Arti xlefay chromas crutchy bacon coffee kobach mattie_p ncommander bytram mrcoolbp paulej72 barrabas zford auto_def khyber hax0rz.
[03:26:59] <n1> stfu ciri
[03:27:47] <paulej72> we need to have ciri not listen to !who-up and !who-down
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[03:28:14] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... 79 random encounters done. I only need 21 more :)
[03:28:14] <paulej72> !who-down poutine
[03:28:26] <n1> ciri might be as smart as the average american...
[03:28:44] <paulej72> no she is smarter too, just very annoying
[03:28:52] <n1> hah
[03:29:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> n1: You want the list of what's up right now? Warning: a "yes" response means 14 links inbound.
[03:29:17] <paulej72> yes
[03:29:18] <SpallsHurgenson> more annoying than the average american citizen? I find that hard to believe!
[03:29:50] <paulej72> ciri listetens to FoxNews and CNN all day :)
[03:30:08] <n1> AndyTheAbsurd, it would be better if you do it sometime early tomorrow so it's fresh by the time we get to it
[03:30:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> I don't have time to write them all up right now, I'm about to go to bed.
[03:30:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> I wanted to read everything but I got stuck helping my wife take care of her relatives
[03:31:08] <paulej72> here I thought you were just going to link bomb the channel AndyTheAbsurd
[03:31:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> paulej72: ....I thought about. Or just link bombing *you* since you were the first to say yes. :)
[03:31:30] <arti> like "retire" them?
[03:31:44] <paulej72> lol
[03:32:07] <n1> some submissions tomorrow would be much appreciated, AndyTheAbsurd
[03:33:03] <n1> i've done 11 stories today, i'm not rushing to do any more just yet. sleep is sounding much more appealing.
[03:33:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> okey doke...probably won't get to it at least ~9AM EDT.
[03:33:41] <n1> thats cool, when ever you have the time :)
[03:34:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> I put a link dump post on G+, here's a link to that if anyone cares: https://plus.google.com
[03:34:50] <SpallsHurgenson> Pretty much all the top ISPs in the country just told the Federal Communications Commission that if they face extra regulation, they will stop investing as much as they do today in network upgrades, and they will have to stop being so innovative. http://arstechnica.com
[03:35:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> SpallsHurgenson: BWAHAHAHAHAHA! How can they become less innovative when they're not at all innovative now?
[03:35:54] <n1> one would assume they'd start rolling back out of spite
[03:36:06] <n1> no more '3G'
[03:36:19] <n1> no more fiber
[03:36:28] <n1> 56k for $40
[03:36:39] <n1> cus the FCC is killing them
[03:37:01] <paulej72> http://freakonomics.com
[03:39:38] <n1> bacon.
[03:43:26] <SpallsHurgenson> One of the nicest ways to consume YouTube subscriptions was to use an RSS feed of new videos, allowing them to show up just like news articles do. You might not have noticed yet, but Google quietly shut down this feature a few days ago. http://arstechnica.com
[03:44:50] <paulej72> SpallsHurgenson: that is due to shutting down GoogleReader. Google will be your RSS and Reader, just type in your query
[03:46:47] <paulej72> tomorrow Google will realease Google Feeds, cureate and view your own custom feeds, no need for the site to support RSS, Atom or anything, Google will do it for you.
[03:47:39] <paulej72> Now if this comes to pass I’ll move to vegas and become a professional gambler
[03:53:13] <n1> doesnt google already do all that stuff in their own way?
[03:53:20] <n1> if you submit to g+
[03:53:45] <paulej72> n1 don’t know they could alrady be doing that.
[03:54:48] <n1> i wouldnt know for sure, but it's something i assume from what i have seen, i dont have g+
[03:55:34] <n1> if the gmail redesign happens, i'm hoping that will be the final encouragement i need to get off gmail for good
[03:55:58] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't think I have /ever/ used the gmail interface for reading or writing mail :)
[03:57:11] <n1> these days i wish i didn't - but using lots of pc's, it's just easier
[03:57:15] <n1> and a lot of it is habit too
[03:58:10] <SpallsHurgenson> ehn, I just carry around my little netbook so I don't have to trust strange computers. :)
[03:58:40] <n1> rarely are they strange computers, i work from multiple locations
[03:58:56] <n1> if they are, then i'd more than likely just use my phone now
[04:00:37] <Subsentient> SpallsHurgenson: Awesome, I got an Acer Aspire One ZG5 with a real HDD. It's a blue one but I installed a white keyboard.
[04:00:43] <Subsentient> I use that machine ALL THE TIME.
[04:00:59] <Subsentient> It's so nice to pick up my machine with one hand and use it with the other while I walk around
[04:01:48] <SpallsHurgenson> my lil' Acer Aspire v5 says hello to your Acer Aspire v1. It is hopes its cousin is happy and living a fulfilling life :)
[04:02:04] <SirFinkus> I had an eee, but I dropped it and the screen broke
[04:02:11] <SirFinkus> pretty sad about it
[04:02:43] <SpallsHurgenson> I used to have a Dell, but that 1GB was killing me (and upgrading would literally require me to take the thing /completely/ apart)
[04:31:25] <SpallsHurgenson> hrmph. kitteh sits there like a huphalumph and doesn't want to play.
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[05:26:09] * SpallsHurgenson looks at the picture of the cute duckies he took this afternoon
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[07:35:25] <ar> http://arachnist.is-a.cat - python ;)
[07:36:07] <chromas> That makes Python seem a bit hard to grasp
[07:36:37] <chromas> But it does everything
[07:38:16] <chromas> from chips import *
[07:40:50] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Seaweed Extracts Used to Repair Human Bone and Tissue - http://sylnt.us - progress,-i-can-feel-it-in-my-bones
[07:43:45] <JamesNZ> Import antigravity!
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[08:05:10] * arti likes the tld
[08:06:48] * chromas was going to make a joke about the photo being monty but the only definition was one from urbandictionary
[08:07:10] <arti> hey so with your editor scheme
[08:07:17] <arti> errbody would have to use it otherwise it would suck
[08:07:32] <arti> it would be like a minified js file
[08:08:16] <chromas> True, assuming other editors don't add the feature
[08:08:21] <arti> correct
[08:08:34] <arti> i'd like something with this
[08:08:44] <arti> i scoped out variou editor features
[08:08:54] <arti> seems like a fun idea for a project
[08:09:03] <chromas> But if they did then nobody would need to complain abotu tabs, spaces or where they break lines
[08:09:38] <chromas> Since the editor can break according to your rules and its knowledge of where different blocks begin and end
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[08:10:01] <chromas> It can align by pixel or whatever but if you want text mode, then it can still align to characters
[08:11:40] <chromas> Elastic tabstops is kind of similar and already exists in gedit and some other editors
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[08:12:07] <arti> all hail
[08:12:21] <arti> i'll have to give it a closer look
[08:12:24] <chromas> Hail Satan!
[08:12:26] <chromas> Oh wait
[08:12:29] <arti> Hail Santa
[08:13:52] <chromas> I was playing around in Kate (KDE editor) and saw that if you turn on dynamic wordwrap, it does a hanging indent. That's pretty cool and removes the need for hard-wrapping, which is another silly thing we still do
[08:13:52] <ciri> It reminds me, to see the ladies playing volley ball its all worth it.
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[10:22:25] <SoyGnu> http://soylentnews.org shows html instead of rendered html :(
[10:23:08] <SoyGnu> and so does my rss feed reader (tt-rss for more details)
[10:23:16] <chromas> it's a known bug
[10:23:21] <chromas> http://soylentnews.org
[10:23:25] <chromas> You can use the Atom feed
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[10:28:39] <SoyGnu> oh chromas! thank you very much!
[10:30:49] <crutchy> !update-stats
[10:30:59] <crutchy> !stats-update
[10:31:39] <crutchy> !updatestats
[10:31:49] <chromas> !update
[10:31:52] <crutchy> !update-brain(crutchy)
[10:32:01] <chromas> !sudo zypper up
[10:32:11] <chromas> oh wait it's pacman now
[10:32:59] <chromas> !stats
[10:32:59] <deadpeas> creating stats for channel #Soylent (Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970)
[10:33:06] <crutchy> !display-duke-nukem-pr0n
[10:33:13] <deadpeas> stat results for #Soylent: crutchy: 15181, xlefay: 11596, MrBluze: 9038, unknown: 7860, arti: 7331, kobach: 7019, NCommander: 5070, prospectacle: 4769, michealpwalls: 4574, n1: 2775, hax0rz: 2675, Landon: 2506, Konomi: 2372, Subsentient: 2269, mattie_p: 2268, Khyber: 2209, janrinok: 2164, SpallsHurgenson: 1998, stderr: 1988, TheMightyBuzzard: 1958, Blackmoore: 1834, chromas: 1795, mrcoolbp: 1670, Bender: 1542, Guardian452: 1480, SirFinkus: 1361, pa
[10:33:30] <chromas> !moustache-powe activate!
[10:34:04] <chromas> s/e /er, /
[10:34:04] <SedBot> <chromas> !moustache-power, activate!
[10:34:55] <chromas> Ooh, I ranked in. That just means other people quit talking
[10:35:34] <crutchy> xlefay needs to come back so i don't look so bad
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[10:36:39] <crutchy> though i don't understand how i could be the only one with 15k thingymibobs
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[10:40:21] <arti> oh yes, the stats thing
[10:40:30] <crutchy> i just had a theory
[10:40:43] <arti> that women are attracted to you instead of the other way around?
[10:40:54] <crutchy> maybe the burning in my mouth was caused by all the pepper seasoning i added to hide the smell of the sauce
[10:41:06] <arti> mouth. smell.
[10:41:15] <arti> pick one
[10:41:27] * arti likes spicy stuff
[10:41:50] <crutchy> i like spicy stuff too... within reason
[10:41:59] <crutchy> i added a heap of curry too
[10:42:16] <crutchy> i think that may have done most of the taste masking
[10:42:29] <arti> blistering awesome
[10:42:40] <crutchy> could make dog food edible with curr
[10:42:43] <crutchy> y
[10:43:09] <arti> hahaha
[10:43:20] * arti is more turned off of what makes it specifically for dog
[10:44:10] <crutchy> its healthier than the crap that humans prefer
[10:44:28] <arti> yeah that's why they don't get colds
[10:44:30] <arti> better diet
[10:45:29] <crutchy> maybe there's something to the whole buttsniffing thing
[10:46:00] * arti imagines this more as a handshake analogy
[10:46:10] <arti> maybe the sniff is like the nonce part
[10:50:43] <Brylarke> Err... hi
[10:50:49] <arti> hahaha
[10:51:02] * arti sniffs Brylarke
[10:51:34] <Brylarke> Not sure you want to be doing that after copious amounts of curry
[10:51:51] <arti> i'll raise you dairy
[10:52:09] <chromas> Don't forget to sign the guestbook by peeing
[10:52:17] <arti> hahaha
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[11:22:04] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:22:04] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 71
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[11:30:52] <crutchy> is it normal for chanserv to appear in the list of nicks when the channel owner is in the channel?
[11:51:59] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Nevada Wants $10,000 for Students' Own Records - http://sylnt.us - it's-not-your-data-it's-just-about-you
[12:07:06] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:07:07] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 72
[12:13:37] <MrBluze> chocolate++
[12:13:38] <deadpeas> karma - chocolate: 1
[12:13:55] <MrBluze> on-special-lindt-easter-eggs-with-yummy-fillings++
[12:14:11] <MrBluze> how are ya crutchy
[12:14:34] <crutchy> hi mrbluze
[12:14:44] <MrBluze> ill bbiab .. reading to kids
[12:14:46] <MrBluze> :)
[12:14:55] <crutchy> k
[12:15:00] <crutchy> have fun :-)
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[12:46:08] <MrBluze> so..
[12:46:51] <MrBluze> how are things, crutchy?
[12:47:23] <crutchy> not too bad
[12:47:26] <crutchy> u?
[12:47:40] <crutchy> i broke the map generator :-P
[13:10:58] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Washington Post Reviews Greenwald's "No Place To Hide" - http://sylnt.us - stating-the-obvious-is-a-national-security-risk
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[13:21:04] <Brylarke> So, crutchy
[13:21:12] <Brylarke> When can I start playing
[13:21:19] <Brylarke> And wheres the source
[13:23:02] <crutchy> https://github.com
[13:23:07] <crutchy> development is in #civ
[13:23:10] <crutchy> :-)
[13:41:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:41:09] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 73
[13:55:54] <MrBluze> coffee++
[13:55:54] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 74
[14:00:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> debating on if i feel like bug killing today or not
[14:03:14] <MrBluze> start, and then see if it's addictive
[14:04:30] <crutchy> i'm having fun
[14:04:47] <crutchy> now that i've undorked the map generator
[14:04:58] <crutchy> s/do/bo/
[14:04:58] <SedBot> <crutchy> now that i've unborked the map generator
[14:05:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, today feels like i'm going to get interrupted often enough that it's pointless.
[14:07:56] <MrBluze> so the side to the contrary wins the debate
[14:10:43] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Should Kids Be Taught to Code? - http://sylnt.us - only-if-they-start-with-cobol
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[14:19:15] <crutchy> g'day kristian
[14:19:29] <kristian> g'day crutchy
[14:19:30] <ciri> Lol yep crutchy, thanks.
[14:19:56] <crutchy> g'day ciri... you dumarse genius
[14:20:43] <crutchy> ciri, what is the meaning of life?
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[14:24:24] <MrBluze> twooty four
[14:24:42] <crutchy> hi weeds
[14:25:08] <crutchy> i think i hurt ciri's feelers
[14:25:15] <weeds> good morning crutchy, MrBluze
[14:25:20] <weeds> What did you do?
[14:25:39] <crutchy> <crutchy> g'day ciri... you dumarse genius
[14:25:57] <weeds> What day is it? Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike!
[14:26:04] <weeds> HA
[14:26:09] <crutchy> now it won't tell me the meaning of life
[14:26:44] <weeds> What do Bruce Wayne and weeds have in common?
[14:27:43] <crutchy> they're both batty
[14:27:47] <crutchy> ?
[14:28:42] <weeds> Close! I was going to say nothing, but a bat got in my house last night and scared the daylights out of me!
[14:28:49] <crutchy> wow
[14:29:35] <weeds> I was watching the hockey game and all of a sudden this thing is flying around the room.
[14:31:28] <crutchy> that's awesome
[14:32:19] <crutchy> well, to hear about having not experienced it personally :-P
[14:33:56] <weeds> I have a high ceiling in the bedroom and it was flying around and around sort of buzzing me. I screamed like the guy in home alone with the spider on his face! :)
[14:37:07] <crutchy> hahaha
[14:37:12] <crutchy> i prolly would too
[14:38:16] <weeds> Ran out of the room and closed the door.
[14:39:42] <NCommander> ugh
[14:39:47] * NCommander can't believe its 5/14 already
[14:40:49] <crutchy> hahaha awesome! i can see my little settler dude on the map :-D
[14:40:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, NCommander
[14:41:01] <crutchy> g'day NCommander
[14:41:08] <NCommander> hey
[14:41:29] * NCommander notes its a year+day until I age equals one of my favorite numbers
[14:42:16] <weeds> good morning NCommander
[14:43:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> well happy unbirthday then
[14:43:54] * NCommander pies TheMightyBuzzard
[14:43:57] <crutchy> woohoo! now i can see my warrior too
[14:44:07] * NCommander was watching Kung Fu Panda recently
[14:44:13] <NCommander> When did Dreamworks Animation get so epic O_O;
[14:44:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> handy, i was just thinking last night that i wanted some pie
[14:44:42] <crutchy> i watched frozen with my kids the other day
[14:44:49] * NCommander hites TheMightyBuzzard with an anvil
[14:44:59] <crutchy> i hate singsong movies but it was pretty good
[14:45:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> good flick, yep
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[14:45:12] * NCommander notes he feels weird being the young guy who's single on staff ._.;
[14:45:23] <weeds> damn kids
[14:45:46] <NCommander> My love life is like a trainwreck, minus the insurance forms
[14:45:56] <weeds> ha ha!
[14:46:07] <crutchy> lucky you... insurance forms are horrible
[14:46:31] * crutchy dodges impending anvil
[14:46:36] <weeds> Best of both worlds - lots of excitement, no insurance forms :)
[14:46:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> my love life is like the sound of one hand clapping. except that's not clapping.
[14:47:05] <crutchy> lol
[14:47:22] <crutchy> mrs palmer and her five daughters eh
[14:47:49] <weeds> When you get to be my age... A double header is twice in the same month
[14:48:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> not enough hookers around here and most other women want more money to go away and not talk to you after sex
[14:48:31] <NCommander> I've actually gotten relatively lucky
[14:48:39] <NCommander> Only ever had to file one insurance claim
[14:49:04] <weeds> "relatively lucky" I thought that was about the other thing
[14:49:07] * NCommander backed into a tree in a icy hill, and wrecked the tailgate of my old truck
[14:49:18] <NCommander> Only accident I've had requiring insurance claims
[14:52:44] <crutchy> what would the be ideal map size for a civilization-like game with say 50 players?
[14:52:56] <crutchy> hmm, maybe 30 players
[14:53:41] <NCommander> crutchy, look at Europa Univeralias for the right scale
[14:53:41] <NCommander> Supports up to 32 players
[14:53:56] * NCommander loves the game but notes its hard to play on a lapto
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[14:54:45] <crutchy> i think i need to allow for unit images to be different size to terrain tiles, cos the units look tiny
[14:54:57] <crutchy> thanks NCommander
[14:55:03] * TheMightyBuzzard eyeballs the bug tracker
[14:55:26] * crutchy googles Europa Univeralias
[14:55:37] <NCommander> crutchy, you might be better off with stacking mechanics + risk/are style map
[14:55:50] <NCommander> *area
[14:56:05] <NCommander> Hex maps are nice, but they get cluttered, especially with a lot of pieces
[14:56:22] <crutchy> i'm just doing square tile map atm, just to keep things simple
[14:56:24] * NCommander notes as a World in Flames player, that game is notorious + a table eater
[14:56:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, i'll pick one or two tomorrow. not going to get to start on any today anyway.
[14:56:44] <NCommander> Could be worse, at least I don't own Campagian for North Africa
[14:56:48] <NCommander> Playing Time: 60000 minutes
[14:56:57] <crutchy> http://irciv.port119.net
[14:57:33] <Brylarke> Ugh, I hate how work can make you completely forget you said something on IRC
[14:57:51] <NCommander> I hate IRC can make me forget work
[14:58:07] <crutchy> i hate how i just forget
[14:58:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> i hate that my coffee cup is empty
[14:58:34] <crutchy> ooh yeah that sucks
[14:58:50] <MrBluze> i hate when there's some sludge in the bottom of the coffee cup and i dunno how it got there
[14:58:51] <crutchy> its 11pm, but i could really go a coffee
[14:59:00] <crutchy> lol MrBluze
[14:59:00] <MrBluze> yeah same here
[14:59:07] <Brylarke> I hate how I seem to be the only person that doesn't drink coffee
[14:59:21] <crutchy> i don't drink a lot of it
[14:59:24] <MrBluze> .. coffee isn't worth drinking unless it tastes good black
[14:59:27] * NCommander is going to snooze for awhile
[14:59:34] <MrBluze> hi NCommander
[14:59:47] <crutchy> mostly i just make a cup and then forget about it, then remember it when its cold and go make another
[14:59:57] <MrBluze> lavazza loves u crutchy
[15:00:22] <Brylarke> Sounds like my coworker, only ever drinks half of his cup
[15:00:36] <MrBluze> the best part of the coffe is the bottom half
[15:00:41] <Brylarke> After which I usually end up putting stuff in it
[15:00:42] <ciri> Cubancigar11, so if you abstract away the "moocher" as it is possible you end up a set of cards from the database with no pass.
[15:00:47] <MrBluze> usually the top part is the last bit of the grind
[15:01:02] <crutchy> ciri, where the hell did you hear "moocher"?
[15:01:12] <crutchy> hmm dumb question
[15:01:28] <MrBluze> let me tell you bout minnie the moocher
[15:01:34] <MrBluze> she was a low down hoochie coocher
[15:03:49] <MrBluze> i wonder if it's a mistake buying a house at this time
[15:08:13] <MrBluze> NCommander: http://lifehacker.com
[15:08:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> somehow, spending money always ends up feeling like a mistake to me.
[15:11:00] <MrBluze> ironically, if i buy a house, i end up paying $200 a week less
[15:11:34] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Nintendo Knocks GameBoy Emulator Offline - http://sylnt.us - Blow-in-it
[15:11:40] <MrBluze> but if we get a hyperinflation event i'm flucked
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[15:42:42] <Blackmoore> mornin
[15:44:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin
[15:46:49] <crutchy> g'day Blackmoore
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[15:55:44] <weeds> Well, the backlight in my monitor just blew out. Any recommendations for a replacement?
[15:57:51] <paulej72> weeds: just buy a new backlight :) cheep on ebay
[15:59:00] <weeds> I have it apart, but there's no evidence of a backlight. 21.5 inch samsung
[16:03:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> Can someone make the "send in your scoop" part of the header text into a link to the submit story page?
[16:04:36] <paulej72> weeds: is it an led backlight?
[16:04:46] <weeds> looka like the backlight is insid ethe led
[16:04:48] <weeds> lcd
[16:05:19] <paulej72> AndyTheAbsurd: that is done and will be part of the nexe slash rollout on june 1
[16:12:17] <Blackmoore> weeds: that sounds like it's toast. it may be adheared to the LCD
[16:13:14] <weeds> I'm learning about ccfl lighting...
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[16:20:20] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Kim Komando Recommends Linux - http://sylnt.us - Year-of-Linux-on-the-Desktop
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[16:29:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> would it be bad to admit that I have no idea who Kim Komando is?
[16:30:26] <Blackmoore> i have no idea either
[16:30:30] <n1> ^^
[16:31:04] <Blackmoore> but then i seem to be really late to the idea of "internet celebrity"
[16:31:15] <n1> 'Kim Komando (born July 1, 1967) is the host of an American talk radio program based on the popularity of personal computers, the use of the Internet, and the complexities of consumer electronics.'
[16:31:41] <n1> 'Today, The Kim Komando Show runs on more than 475 radio stations. Komando has written 12 books on computers and technology.'
[16:31:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...and apparently I've now submitted too many stories.
[16:32:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> I guess that's a problem that you editors *want* to have.
[16:32:29] <n1> eh?
[16:32:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> I just got this message: You must wait a little bit before using this resource; please try again later.
[16:33:13] <n1> how many did you submit?
[16:34:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> three so far, I got that message attempting to submit the fourth.
[16:34:56] <n1> not seen that before... if anyone on dev team has an answer for that?
[16:36:21] <Blackmoore> I've seen that before
[16:36:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably to prevent spamming the submissions queue
[16:36:54] <n1> i'm sure we've had at least 4 from anontechie before in a short space of time
[16:37:08] <Blackmoore> happened to me months ago - but i thought we had that beat.
[16:37:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> well I'll leave that up in my browser for a few and go do stuff to this Arduino and GSM shield
[16:37:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> might put a bug report in to tweak it though. https://github.com
[16:38:44] <Blackmoore> yeah - found it http://logs.sylnt.us
[16:39:42] <paulej72> AndyTheAbsurd: there is a limit set in slash to prevent spaming of the submission system. let me look at the limits
[16:39:53] <Blackmoore> right near the end of that days log i ran into the submission issue.
[16:42:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> I should build an apropos-like system for the dev vm vars table
[16:42:07] <paulej72> the limit is 20 subs a day and at least 300 sec between subs
[16:43:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> something you can command line up real quick instead of having to type out the mysql one liner and pipe it through grep or manually sift through the vars in the admin panel.
[16:44:37] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: or you can just look at the mysql files that setup the vars db. I have done it that way in the past
[16:44:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> that too. i'm lazy and want faster though
[16:45:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus i think i just might have time enough to do that today.
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[17:36:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, that's good enough
[17:40:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> if anyone wants it, http://pastebin.com
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[18:08:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> just for the record, if you write "foo = (condition) ? $bar : $baz;" into production perl, you need to die in a fire. waste the space and use if/else so it doesn't require as much rewriting when i need to add an elsif later.
[18:13:36] <Brylarke> Surely writing that would imply there's no intention to add another condition afterwards anyway
[18:13:44] <Brylarke> Or else why would you do it
[18:14:01] <Brylarke> Though I know sod all about perl
[18:14:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> because you're feeling especially clever
[18:14:39] <Brylarke> I can think of much more die in a fire worthy things than that
[18:15:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh sure but annoying me by making me rewrite code that shouldn't have been necessary to rewrite is diaf-worthy
[18:16:56] <Brylarke> If the code I'm working on right now was full of that instead of the stuff it actually is full of, I would be in heaven
[18:17:19] <Brylarke> Instead I have 1000+ line value object classes
[18:17:31] <Brylarke> With getters and setters that do nothing
[18:17:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice
[18:18:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> strangely, the little things bug me more than the big things
[18:18:33] <Brylarke> And I have command classes that do stuff
[18:18:50] <Brylarke> That can only be executed by dispatching signals
[18:19:00] <Brylarke> Which are only accessible through mediators
[18:19:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> the big things usually mean you didn't know how, which is forgivable.
[18:19:13] <Brylarke> That you need to access a view to get a reference to
[18:19:47] <Brylarke> The big things mean you're usually resigned to putting up with writing crap, or throwing the lot out
[18:19:54] <Brylarke> Which you never have time to do
[18:19:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> right
[18:20:26] <Brylarke> There's so much coupling in this it's like a mass wedding
[18:20:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> code orgy?
[18:20:54] <Brylarke> Nah
[18:20:57] <Brylarke> An orgy implies fun
[18:21:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> true nuff
[18:22:22] <Brylarke> I don't think I can actually write an else if without spending at least five minutes wondering if I can get rid of it by other means
[18:22:23] <ciri> Then port to to an fs after you gey things figured out how to describe it without spoiling the major twist in the admin panel.
[18:23:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> you probably can but rarely as efficiently or legibly.
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[18:24:22] <Brylarke> Depends
[18:24:30] <Brylarke> But usually I'm messing around at that point
[18:24:37] <Brylarke> Also depends on the language and the reason
[18:26:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. by in large it's often the most efficient way of dealing with two conditional blocks of code regardless of language though.
[18:27:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> does not have much style though and can get a bit wacky if you chain too many of them together.
[18:32:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> food time
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[20:09:19] <Blackmoore> NOW can we ge someone to fork FF?
[20:11:43] <Landon> TheMightyBuzzard: I agree RE ternary operators
[20:12:11] <Landon> had to spend a minute contemplating a printf because it had 2 nested ternary operators and no whitespace
[20:15:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> one line nested loops are especially fun too. particularly if they manipulate $_.
[20:15:43] <kristian> fork FF? why?
[20:16:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> kristian, to get rid of australis
[20:16:16] <kristian> oh... well isn't that kind of what seamonkey is at this point?
[20:17:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, that'd be an all in one bit of bloatware
[20:18:05] <kristian> it was that when firefox was forked, but at this point firefox is arguably more bloated. the mail reader and composer portions are really tiny by modern standards
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[20:22:00] <Blackmoore> seamonkey is really just a relabeled version.
[20:22:06] <Blackmoore> not a real fork.
[20:22:38] <Blackmoore> no, i want out of the new interface, and the DRM.
[20:23:45] <Blackmoore> http://www.palemoon.org might be a real fork.. maybe..
[20:24:32] <swiss> just use chrome
[20:25:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> not wanting to use chrome is a large part of why austrailis pisses people off
[20:27:17] * arti o.o
[20:27:40] <swiss> i meant mine as a joke, i have no clue what you're talking about
[20:27:54] <arti> chrome has a lot of cool features
[20:27:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> FF trying to become chrome basically
[20:28:09] <arti> sucks that it leaks data like a sieve
[20:28:34] <swiss> arti: it's my primary browser, people just get worked up about "data being collected"
[20:28:50] <swiss> time for work
[20:29:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> time for nap
[20:29:52] <arti> swiss, yeah wonder why that is
[20:34:36] <Blackmoore> chrome already has DRM built in.
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[20:42:52] <kristian> Blackmoore, I think you may be confusing seamonkey and iceweasel
[20:45:52] <Blackmoore> i might be.
[20:59:26] <Blackmoore> mm.. i'm not convinced. it looks like they have been in line with updateds to Mozilla.
[21:02:35] <Blackmoore> yeah; even the FAQ goes right back to FF.
[21:02:56] <Blackmoore> not5 a fork as far as I can tell.
[21:12:42] <Teckla> I really really really *really* wish Firefox would get process-per-tab (or whatever it is). So tired of the "Firefox (Not Responding)" thing in the UI.
[21:13:16] <arti> are you mining for bitcoins in JS or something?
[21:13:25] <arti> or just using google products xD
[21:14:14] <Teckla> arti: Nope, heh. I just use both Firefox and Chrome a lot, and the Chrome UI is almost always very responsive, and the Firefox UI is frequently laggy, often to the point of getting that whole "Firefox (Not Responding)" thing. :(
[21:16:07] <arti> maybe more addons will help :P
[21:16:16] <arti> extensions
[21:16:26] <arti> whelp, guess we know which side of the court i'm in
[21:25:38] <Woods> Sunset about to happen for the ISS
[21:25:51] <Woods> http://www.ustream.tv
[21:29:30] <arti> ah cool, thanks woods!
[21:29:31] <Teckla> arti: I only use one -- Adblock Plus -- you think that's the culprit?
[21:29:41] <arti> honestly, no
[21:29:55] <arti> unless you're on an extremely conservative setup
[21:30:04] <arti> "sup guys, raspberry pi here"
[21:32:03] <paulej72> Woods nothing like looking rhith at the sun with a camera :)
[21:32:11] <Woods> Yeah, that was really cool
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[21:32:18] <arti> :D
[21:32:23] <arti> woods++
[21:32:23] <deadpeas> karma - woods: 3
[21:32:24] <Woods> I think the camera facing the sunrise has less stuff on the lens
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[21:33:15] <Woods> Next sunset is 90 minutes from now, not sure on the sunrise
[21:35:12] <paulej72> Woods: approximately 45 minutes
[21:35:22] <paulej72> give or take 20
[21:35:26] <arti> hmmm
[21:35:29] <Woods> lol
[21:35:33] <arti> could be a good idea for a bot notification
[21:35:44] <Woods> Someone said 25 minutes after sunset, not sure how accurate it is though.
[21:37:41] <paulej72> Woods: well it hs to do with how high the orbit is, and the inclination to the day/night terminator. If I was a rocket scientist, I would be able to bang that calucation out easily
[21:38:01] <Woods> Heyoooo
[21:39:22] <paulej72> It seem silly that the cameras do not do auto aperature. It would be nice to see something on the dark side.
[21:39:52] <Woods> I know right?
[21:40:05] <Woods> I thought so as well
[22:09:43] <Woods> Looks like sunrise has already started, but it has the wrong camera showing. :(
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[22:15:30] <NCommander> <NerdRPG> Kartoffelsuppe, hka, and Woods [784/1239] have team battled NCommander, Nerdfest, and arachnist [161/1651] and won! 0 days, 00:02:37 is removed from their clocks.
[22:15:34] <NCommander> ...... 2 minutes'
[22:15:35] <NCommander> really
[22:15:54] <Woods> Hey man, two minutes is two minutes.
[22:16:14] <Woods> Do not dare forget those 37 seconds either.
[22:16:17] <arti> hahaha
[22:16:20] <arti> that's awesome
[22:16:50] <arti> did something change with how the time is moved around, i assumed it was added to the loser's clock
[22:21:12] <arti> here's one from the other day: 00:05:39 is removed from arti's clock.
[22:21:13] <ciri> So it wasn't removed from arti's clock.
[22:21:26] <arti> oh it was, just not very much
[22:21:38] <arti> .001%
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[23:16:44] <Blackmoore> is the George RR Martin - "writes on an ancient PC" worth wrtign up as a story?
[23:17:02] <Subsentient> Not really
[23:17:43] <Subsentient> Because everyone will just write things like "He should be using LibreOffice", "He can turn that stuff off" and "why doesn't he use FreeDOS" and "Why not dual-boot"
[23:17:46] <Blackmoore> i didnt think so.
[23:18:37] <Blackmoore> or it becomes a fest about who owns the oldest hardware
[23:18:45] <Subsentient> indeed
[23:18:59] <Blackmoore> actually. i like that angle.
[23:19:05] <Subsentient> I've got a 75Mhz 40MB 2GB HDD Toshiba Satellite Pro 405cs
[23:19:17] <Subsentient> still works
[23:19:19] <Subsentient> runs freedos
[23:19:33] <Subsentient> Got DJGPP compiler on it etc
[23:19:38] <Blackmoore> I have an IBM AT that works, but the HD shat the bed years ago.
[23:19:52] <Subsentient> Mine too, it came with a 700MB drive
[23:19:56] <Subsentient> I replaced it
[23:20:20] <Subsentient> I'm thinking about building a tiny SubLinux for it though
[23:20:49] <Blackmoore> I have to hold back the snark about having a vintage telegraph.. I
[23:20:51] <Subsentient> because now that I tarred up the filesystem layout and that SubLinux is pretty stable, it's trivial to build tiny systems
[23:21:39] <Blackmoore> Subsentient: still depends on hardware. I'd love to see what i can do now with the old 386 base laptop i have laying around
[23:21:57] <Subsentient> Blackmoore: It'd need to be at least an i586 for me to do anything with it
[23:22:00] <Subsentient> e.g. pentium 1
[23:22:21] <Blackmoore> honsetly - i just need a file system and text editor.
[23:22:44] <Subsentient> I need a file system, text editor, compiler, browser, partitioner, and busybox
[23:22:47] <Subsentient> and bash
[23:22:53] <Subsentient> I do like bash despite what some say
[23:22:53] <Blackmoore> but yeah - the 386 support was dropped a few years ago
[23:22:57] <Subsentient> yeh
[23:23:00] <arti> you don't bash it?
[23:23:04] <Subsentient> lol
[23:23:31] <Subsentient> Blackmoore: Here, I can give you a disk image for a FreeDOS spin I made eons ago
[23:23:37] <Subsentient> Incoming PM
[23:23:51] <arti> mouth_open.vbs
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[23:49:24] <poutine> https://blockchain.info <- I just submitted my first transaction puzzle raw bitcoin transaction
[23:49:30] <Blackmoore> mm.. i'm in web irc. that didnt work
[23:49:47] <poutine> that red "STRANGE" makes me feel good
[23:51:22] <Blackmoore> ah got it.
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[23:52:54] <paulej72> yo mrcoolbp
[23:57:03] <mrcoolbp> sup sir = )
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