#Soylent | Logs for 2014-05-08

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[00:01:22] <NC|DeadLaptop> paulej72: I just learned mysqldump has a --compatiable=postgresql flag O_o;
[00:01:48] <paulej72> well I need to get home and do some cleaning for a while. I’ll be back on a couple of hours or so.
[00:02:17] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[00:02:48] <NC|DeadLaptop> paulej72: are your Bytram|away in hiding :-)
[00:03:12] <paulej72> NC|DeadLaptop: does slash have a export SLASH::DB::MySQL to SHASH::DB::PGSQL :)
[00:03:53] <paulej72> No not really. I never log off and I do not change away status
[00:04:16] <paulej72> later all
[00:05:01] <Blackmoore> gnite
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[01:20:12] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Air Quality Unsafe for 90% of People In Urban Centres - http://sylnt.us - not-holding-my-breath--oh-wait
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[02:42:54] <BadCoderFinger> Yo
[02:44:29] <Bytram|away> ho ho
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[02:44:37] <BadCoderFinger> Howdy.
[02:44:39] <SpallsHurgenson> Santa?
[02:44:55] <BadCoderFinger> Hey Spalls! How are things?
[02:44:58] <Bytram> claws.
[02:45:07] <Bytram> =)
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[02:52:21] * SpallsHurgenson watches his new dvds of Bronowski's "Ascent of Man"
[02:53:02] <BadCoderFinger> Any good?
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[02:54:10] <SpallsHurgenson> well, some of the assumptions are a bit dated but still a very nice introduction to the rise of human civilization.
[02:55:16] <BadCoderFinger> I should check them out, then
[02:56:06] <SpallsHurgenson> it's werry bwitish, professorial, and still has the optimism of the early 70s :)
[02:57:19] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, sounds like I might enjoy it.
[02:57:28] <SpallsHurgenson> I saw it 20 years ago. now I'm mostly enjoying it for the nice videos of ancient cities and geography :)
[02:59:42] <SpallsHurgenson> it's sort of funny to see Bronkowski wax philosphic about the nomadic peoples of Afghanistan and Iran. What a difference 40 years of indoctrination makes :)
[03:00:43] <BadCoderFinger> This is true. Herbert greatly admired the Sunni.
[03:01:43] <SpallsHurgenson> they weren't seen as a threat until the late '70s, and have suffered (not /entirely/ undeservedly) since then
[03:04:34] <BadCoderFinger> Everybody needs a bad guy.
[03:05:01] <SpallsHurgenson> we need three, actually
[03:05:14] <SpallsHurgenson> an old one, defeated as proof of our superiority
[03:05:27] <SpallsHurgenson> a current one
[03:05:47] <SpallsHurgenson> and a new one in the making in case the current one doesn't work out :)
[03:06:48] <BadCoderFinger> Heh! I heard a truism in a movie: "Put any ten people in a room. They might not elect any leaders, but they will pick someone to hate."
[03:07:14] <SpallsHurgenson> I bet they pick Steve. Nobody likes him. Damn that Steve!
[03:07:18] * SpallsHurgenson shakes a fist
[03:07:35] <MrBluze> past bad guys are used to hit today's people over the head with lest they stray from the path
[03:08:01] <BadCoderFinger> Down with Steve!
[03:08:22] <BadCoderFinger> Nothing makes an example like making an example.
[03:08:38] <SpallsHurgenson> do you have an example of that?
[03:08:56] <MrBluze> an example?
[03:09:02] <MrBluze> godwin
[03:10:00] <BadCoderFinger> That's one, heh.
[03:10:35] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Sensor Pattern Noise in Photos Identifies Cameras - http://sylnt.us - remember-to-take-those-awkward-pictures-with-a-friend's-camera
[03:10:54] <MrBluze> lol remember never to release the originals
[03:11:03] <BadCoderFinger> In the interest of a non-Godwin argument: Snowden is a great example of making sure to not blow a whistle.
[03:11:11] <chromas> Just post it to facebook and they'll mangle your photos for you
[03:11:32] <SpallsHurgenson> completely unrelated: http://videosift.com <-- neat amateur tour of the south pole base :)
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[03:11:41] <MrBluze> nice
[03:11:54] <BadCoderFinger> chromas: Now that would be funny: Screencaps of NSA docs being used to advertise for viagra!
[03:11:56] <MrBluze> Snowden, i suspect, was trying to prevent ww3
[03:13:13] <SpallsHurgenson> but all the best sci-fi starts after WW3!
[03:13:15] <chromas> "The NSA hates these guys! Enlarge your surveillance with this one weird trick"
[03:13:32] <BadCoderFinger> Ha!
[03:15:07] <MrBluze> "These women live 5km from you and are waiting to be spied on"
[03:15:18] <BadCoderFinger> Now that's an advertisement!
[03:15:20] <SpallsHurgenson> I wonder how long before these sensor patterns are recorded before the phones are sold
[03:15:22] <MrBluze> Join the three letter agency today
[03:15:37] <MrBluze> no credit or criminal check necessary
[03:15:46] <MrBluze> "Get paid to perve"
[03:15:49] <BadCoderFinger> LOVEINT: You know you want to. Sign up at nsa.gov today!
[03:16:01] <chromas> I can get paid now?
[03:16:20] <MrBluze> yep just come to the big featureless building and sit the online exam
[03:16:47] <chromas> Well shit, why've I been doing it for free all this time?
[03:16:50] <BadCoderFinger> It's like a CCNA, only you can't be outsourced. Yet.
[03:18:19] <MrBluze> yeah i know, me too
[03:18:20] <BadCoderFinger> Seriously, the fact that they have a codeword for the abuses just annoys me greatly.
[03:18:36] * BadCoderFinger adds that to the already large "Annoys Me Greatly" list.
[03:19:53] <MrBluze> probably cause its so common
[03:20:03] <BadCoderFinger> Exactly.
[03:20:31] <BadCoderFinger> Therein lies the problem. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
[03:20:46] <SpallsHurgenson> Steve does. That's the problem.
[03:20:53] <MrBluze> well if u want to know, a bunch of pedophiles, thats who
[03:21:21] <BadCoderFinger> Steve's bloody well falling down on the job.
[03:21:30] <SpallsHurgenson> well, you know Steve.
[03:21:31] <BadCoderFinger> No wonder everyone hates him!
[03:22:03] <MrBluze> i hated him first :D
[03:22:43] <BadCoderFinger> That makes you president of the club!
[03:22:46] <MrBluze> bedore it was cool ;) lol
[03:22:52] * SpallsHurgenson choose "Steve" in honor of the Flight of the Conchords http://www.youtube.com
[03:23:18] <MrBluze> but we're meant to hate osama
[03:23:25] <MrBluze> you insensitive clod .. or something
[03:23:36] <BadCoderFinger> He's dead already. Time to find a new villain.
[03:23:48] <MrBluze> yeah i dont know why they unkilled him to kill him again
[03:24:05] <BadCoderFinger> PR, that's why.
[03:24:19] <BadCoderFinger> The world (sadly) runs on spin.
[03:24:39] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't know, I think it works better for Them without Osama
[03:25:31] <SpallsHurgenson> a person can be defeated (as was done with Osama) but now we can just hate on a whole people or religion, a much more long-term enemy :)
[03:25:54] <MrBluze> now we have to hate the russians again
[03:26:04] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, can you imagine what would have happened if Osama had had a change of heart? Panic! Who will we hate? :)
[03:26:08] <BadCoderFinger> Oh good. Another cold war.
[03:26:15] <MrBluze> nah it'll be a hot war
[03:26:22] <BadCoderFinger> Maybe we'll get a new space vehicle out of it!
[03:26:25] <MrBluze> they'll get as far as rome probably, maybe germany
[03:26:53] <MrBluze> but once again they wont cross the channel or harm any of the important assets
[03:27:24] * MrBluze just guessing
[03:27:28] <SpallsHurgenson> Orion! Orion! I call Orion!
[03:27:38] * SpallsHurgenson wants a spaceship with get-up-n-go!
[03:28:05] <BadCoderFinger> I'd settle for the dragon getting man rated.
[03:28:09] * SpallsHurgenson wants his friggin' Daedalus spaceprobe :)
[03:28:21] <BadCoderFinger> Then we won't have to use trampolines.
[03:29:02] <SpallsHurgenson> we must not allow a trampoline gap!
[03:29:04] <BadCoderFinger> Seriously, how hard can it be? I've had a few Kerbals survive. (Not many, though.)
[03:29:19] <MrBluze> ah the american way
[03:29:26] <MrBluze> owe people money? kill then, it's simpler
[03:29:32] * SpallsHurgenson seeks funding for a five-mile wide trampoline
[03:30:18] <MrBluze> s/then/them
[03:30:18] * SedBot offers MrBluze a /
[03:30:21] <MrBluze> s/then/them/
[03:30:22] <SedBot> <MrBlize> owe people money? kill them, it's simpler
[03:30:27] <BadCoderFinger> A trampoline would work, as long as it's directly under (no more than 5 feet from) a space elevator.
[03:30:50] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, I won't need a space elevator!
[03:31:00] * SpallsHurgenson will just put CATAPULTS on the trampoline!
[03:31:02] <BadCoderFinger> Oh no! You've angered the sed bot! We're doomed!
[03:31:07] <arti> "yes, we made a trampoline so large and powerful it'll put you into orbit"
[03:31:16] <arti> that would be pretty awesome
[03:31:26] <BadCoderFinger> I'd pay money to see that.
[03:31:34] * arti imagines a minecraft map
[03:31:46] <SpallsHurgenson> just don't pay money to ride it until they develope intertial shielding first
[03:31:57] <SpallsHurgenson> (or unless you enjoy becoming jam :)
[03:33:10] <MrBluze> wasnt that going to be marketed as a device? suicide roller-coaster?
[03:33:22] <arti> hell of a kickstarter idea
[03:33:37] <SpallsHurgenson> you know you'd get some people to pay for it :)
[03:33:38] <arti> "Terminal Velocity"
[03:33:40] <MrBluze> the 'killer' app
[03:34:01] <arti> i think they've already made those, like those fucked up x-ray machines
[03:34:11] <arti> BFFFZZZTT have 12000 times the normal dose
[03:34:11] <SpallsHurgenson> of course, priming the trampoline requires a lot of energy, which is why I also need to invent a perpetual motion device :)
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[03:35:10] <arti> perpetual motion device? lawyer's mouth
[03:35:30] <SpallsHurgenson> phaw, if STALKER taught me anything, it's that no amount of radiation poisoning can't be cured with copious amounts of vodka :)
[03:36:20] <MrBluze> the japanese have developed a camera with a shutter speed so high that they managed to get a photo of a woman with her mouth closed
[03:36:24] <MrBluze> </old joke>
[03:36:31] <BadCoderFinger> Ask the residents of Chernobyl.
[03:36:43] <SpallsHurgenson> I did. then I shot them :)
[03:36:59] <MrBluze> SpallsHurgenson: thats what they do to separatist ukrainians
[03:37:10] <SpallsHurgenson> lol, ouch :)
[03:37:19] <arti> i thought they did the whole cookout thing?
[03:37:26] <MrBluze> yeah and if they try to leave
[03:37:30] <MrBluze> strangle them then club them
[03:37:38] <arti> "i went to the club willingly"
[03:37:51] <MrBluze> yeah we went clubbing after the football match..
[03:38:03] <arti> hooligans
[03:38:24] <MrBluze> that was with the police present
[03:38:49] <MrBluze> and then guys with bullet proof vests and silencers on pistols walking around calmly firing at the windows
[03:39:01] <MrBluze> it all comes across as terribly spontaneous
[03:39:22] <MrBluze> not totally sure about the silencers tho
[03:42:08] <SpallsHurgenson> well, since silencers don't really silence, I'd guess they wouldn't really bother
[03:42:40] <MrBluze> no, maybe the long barrel was just to improve aim
[03:44:47] <SpallsHurgenson> okay, enough watching dvds. now I need some other timewaster :)
[03:44:57] <MrBluze> uhm
[03:45:09] <Bytram> try reading this: http://www.dwheeler.com
[03:45:45] <SpallsHurgenson> is that going to be informative, educational and generally a useful read? 'Cause that's the opposite of wasting time :)
[03:45:55] <MrBluze> educatinonal
[03:46:07] <MrBluze> go read some conspiracy theories
[03:46:12] <Bytram> edumacationanable
[03:46:12] <MrBluze> thats a good time waster
[03:46:56] <MrBluze> enudicatinobilale
[03:48:03] <Bytram> "enudicatinobilale" -- rearrange the letters to get: nude cat in on a bale
[03:48:11] <Bytram> well, kinda sorta
[03:48:35] <MrBluze> nude labile cation
[03:49:17] <MrBluze> +i
[03:51:42] <Bytram> A Diabolic Elite Nun
[03:52:03] <Bytram> A Bacilli Untied One
[03:56:14] <Bytram> old line beautician
[03:56:50] <Bytram> Ablation Nuclei Die
[03:57:16] <Bytram> Actual Inedible Ion
[03:57:39] <SpallsHurgenson> Eeep!
[03:57:55] * SpallsHurgenson just had some dark matter pass through him
[03:57:56] <Bytram> Diabolic Alien Tune
[03:58:38] <SpallsHurgenson> This is a baryon-only neighborhood, damnit!
[03:58:54] <Bytram> Incubate Alien Idol
[03:59:06] <Bytram> Cable Audition Line
[03:59:49] <Bytram> Bacon Initial Elude
[04:01:04] <Bytram> Audible Canine Toil
[04:01:56] <Bytram> Enable Uncial Idiot
[04:02:27] <arti> SpallsHurgenson: eating more fiber?
[04:03:12] <Bytram> Bean Cilia Outlined
[04:05:13] <SpallsHurgenson> it was an axion, I'm sure of it!
[04:08:44] * SpallsHurgenson calls the cops to report the intrusion
[04:09:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> Iota Dice Annul Bile
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[04:12:49] <NC|Reinstalling> Ok, got everything backed up
[04:12:56] * NC|Reinstalling is installing this machine dual-boot, yay
[04:13:55] <BadCoderFinger> NC: Don't do it! Windows makes Ukrainians want to rejoin Russia!
[04:14:14] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, a Windows8/WindowsME dual-boot for ultra awesomeness?
[04:14:23] <Bytram> NCommander: did you test the backup? =)
[04:14:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> need some vista too
[04:15:01] <SpallsHurgenson> it's amazing how GOOD vista looks after using Win8 :)
[04:15:11] <NC|Reinstalling> BadCoderFinger: this is only a temp laptop; its my mom's normally but she's going to use a tablet for a few weeks until I can actually replace it
[04:15:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[04:15:17] <NC|Reinstalling> ntfsresize is going
[04:15:54] <BadCoderFinger> SpallsHurgenson: That just hurts right in the soul.
[04:16:03] <SpallsHurgenson> however, I think even when compared to Metro, WinME will still come out behind
[04:16:04] <NC|Reinstalling> This system just got the name salvation
[04:16:26] * NC|Reinstalling has gone from absolution -> tranquility -> defiance -> salvation
[04:16:33] NC|Reinstalling is now known as NC|Dante
[04:16:43] <SpallsHurgenson> and Salvation is the Windows box?!?!
[04:16:44] <Bytram> holy inferno!
[04:16:53] <NC|Dante> Bytram: my desktop is called perdition :-)
[04:17:04] <SpallsHurgenson> I dunno, I think NCommander is too far gone to be saved :)
[04:17:07] <Bytram> and I've been stuck in purgatory
[04:17:14] <Bytram> =)
[04:17:30] <NC|Dante> Bytram: good chance that's going to be the name of my new laptop when I get around to buying one
[04:17:51] <NC|Dante> This machine isn't great, its about 6 years old
[04:17:59] <NC|Dante> 1.3 Ghz Core 2 + 3 GiB of RAM
[04:18:05] <NC|Dante> Plus side, it is 64-bit capable
[04:18:06] <NC|Dante> \o/
[04:18:17] * Bytram seems to recall there's a citytown somewhere in the US named purgatory
[04:18:25] * SpallsHurgenson used to name his PCs after famous fictional computers... Skynet, HAL, Colossus, etc.
[04:18:27] <NC|Dante> Right now, I'm debating what I'm going to be doing on my traintrip
[04:18:41] <NC|Dante> Port slash to Apache 2, Port slash to postgres
[04:18:56] <NC|Dante> Probably the former
[04:19:17] <SpallsHurgenson> nowdays, I just use a standard network prefix and a number (often but not always their speed in megahertz) because I no longer have imagination :-/
[04:19:25] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: after HAL, you could have called the next one HALsion
[04:19:26] <NC|Dante> No VTx extensions unfortunately, so can't use the dev VM
[04:19:42] <NC|Dante> The HW supports it, but BIOS lockout
[04:19:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, use trek ships. you won't run out for ages.
[04:19:49] <NC|Dante> And I rather not patch the BIOS on a system I'm borrowing
[04:19:51] <mattie_p> hey folks!
[04:19:55] <BadCoderFinger> I was on a theme with Roman emperors.
[04:19:55] * NC|Dante licks mattie_p
[04:20:08] <mattie_p> anyone live up in Boston area? might be moving there soon
[04:20:09] <NC|Dante> I was on greek gods for awhile
[04:20:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup mattie_p
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[04:20:14] <NC|Dante> mattie_p: just left there
[04:20:16] * mattie_p does constellations
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[04:20:35] <Bytram> mattie_p: Hiya! not currently, but have a couple decades experience in that area
[04:20:36] <mattie_p> NC|Dante, as much as you get around, only a matter of time before you are back there
[04:20:41] <BadCoderFinger> I'm on various cheeses now.
[04:21:02] <NC|Dante> I had alexandria (named after the library), helios, apollo, titan, promethius
[04:21:03] * mattie_p is waiting for gorgonzola and limbeurger
[04:21:07] <NC|Dante> titan was my IA64 desktop :-)
[04:21:07] <SpallsHurgenson> partitions used to be named after fatasy heroes (Frodo, Raistlin, Arthur, etc)
[04:21:26] <NC|Dante> Ubuntu install almost done
[04:21:32] <Bytram> mattie_p: any particular area around boston you aiming for?
[04:21:36] * NC|Dante waits for updates to finish installing, then rebooting
[04:21:43] <SpallsHurgenson> now they are named "System" and "Apps" and "Data" :-)
[04:21:54] <Bytram> S.A.D. :(
[04:22:03] <mattie_p> Bytram, not yet, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a job offer from a company there, will be looking for a decent commute from the suburbs
[04:22:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine are named stuff like 965baf9d-22b3-4265-91fc-df09d5c94358
[04:22:34] <Bytram> I'd recommend checking out the Framingham/Natick area.
[04:22:35] <mattie_p> waiting to see if other interviews pan out, but that one at least seems like almost a sure thing
[04:22:51] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, on this windows computer, I'm currently have 24 named drives (including mapped network drives)
[04:23:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> hyeurg
[04:23:01] <NC|Dante> eek, Windows
[04:23:02] * NC|Dante runs
[04:23:04] <Bytram> mattie_p: there's commuter rail that takes you right into Boston, and more shopping than you can imagine.
[04:23:14] <mattie_p> Bytram, I will certainly check it out
[04:23:14] <NC|Dante> Actually, I do have a Windows VM I use for World in Flames
[04:23:29] * NC|Dante still wants to try and launch an invasion of the Americas
[04:23:30] <Bytram> mattie_p: pm
[04:23:39] <mattie_p> sure
[04:23:45] <NC|Dante> Or find someone to play American In Flames; Democracy vs. Darkness
[04:23:54] <SpallsHurgenson> congratulations, NCommander, you just made the NSA watchlist :)
[04:23:59] <NC|Dante> Hypothetical scenario where the United States stayed neutral in World War II
[04:24:03] <NC|Dante> SpallsHurgenson: its a game :-P
[04:24:11] <NC|Dante> *America in Flames
[04:24:17] <SpallsHurgenson> uh-huh, /sure/ it is :)
[04:24:46] <NC|Dante> SpallsHurgenson: http://www.a-d-g.com.au
[04:25:27] <SpallsHurgenson> anyway, sounds unAmerican to even be contemplating playing a game by that name. Double NSA-watchlist for you mister!
[04:25:46] <NC|Dante> I've got an iraqi stamp in my passport :-P
[04:26:05] <NC|Dante> And yet I'm considered a trusted traveller from the US government
[04:26:08] <NC|Dante> They aren't THAT paranoid
[04:26:32] <SpallsHurgenson> triple watchlist! quadruple! your TOOTHpaste is watching you now!
[04:26:35] <mattie_p> NC you are a trusted traveler because you probably have more FF miles than 99.9% of the world's airline travelers
[04:26:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like saying things like sarin, mosque, jihad, risin, tatp, hello NSA guys over unencrypted chat just to keep them on their toes
[04:26:56] <SirFinkus> he's past watchlists, he has a file
[04:27:08] <SpallsHurgenson> I think I have a browser extension that does that automatically for me :)
[04:27:11] <SirFinkus> it's spelled ricin
[04:27:18] <n1> TheMightyBuzzard, i wonder with that.... one day they might decide to fuck with me, after wasting their time bringing up flags.
[04:27:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, watchlist for you
[04:27:50] <SirFinkus> I'm already on all the watchlists
[04:28:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> double secret watchlist then
[04:28:35] <mattie_p> too bad its not soviet russia, where you watch the list.
[04:28:35] <SirFinkus> a few months ago I was talking to iranians in irc
[04:29:01] <NC|Dante> mattie_p: not any more sadly
[04:29:16] <NC|Dante> mattie_p: I used to be 1k (100k miles flown per year on United) though for awhile
[04:29:17] <SpallsHurgenson> "TrackMeNot runs in Firefox and Chrome as a low-priority background process that periodically issues randomized search-queries to popular search engines"
[04:29:23] <NC|Dante> That being said, I'm going to make elite status on Amtrak
[04:29:36] <mattie_p> NC|Dante what happened, you dump the membership?
[04:29:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> mattie_p, is pretty fubar that it's better if you soviet russia that
[04:29:43] <NC|Dante> mattie_p: I just don't fly a lot anymore
[04:29:53] <NC|Dante> Almost all my travel this year has been ground based or on JetBlue
[04:30:01] <mattie_p> TheMightBuzzard: I know, I immediately thought that, which is why I posted it
[04:30:09] <SirFinkus> lol, I wonder what the odds of it searching for stuff like "Hard core child pornography" are
[04:30:22] <NC|Dante> But going coast to coast on Amtrak will get me 3k-ish Amtrak TQP
[04:30:27] <NC|Dante> er, 2k-ish
[04:30:33] <NC|Dante> I've already racked up 900 TQP points
[04:30:39] <NC|Dante> One more long trip, and I'll make select status
[04:30:47] <NC|Dante> (or a roundtrip on Acela which earns BIG bonuses)
[04:30:56] <mattie_p> NC|Dante whatever floats your boat(do you do cruises too?), you seem to enjoy travel so if it works for you
[04:31:14] <NC|Dante> mattie_p: I don't take boats often
[04:31:14] <SpallsHurgenson> speaking of flying: http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com
[04:31:25] <NC|Dante> The last one I was on was the 16 hour ferry from Nova Scota to Newfoundland
[04:31:47] <NC|Dante> That one is a serious trip
[04:31:51] <SpallsHurgenson> (title might be a bit exhuberant, but some nice scenes nonetheless :)
[04:31:56] <NC|Dante> I do have "frieghter travel over both oceans" on the bucket list
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[04:32:16] <mattie_p> bring satellite internet with you, gets lonely on a freighter
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[04:32:42] <SirFinkus> condoms too
[04:35:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> NC|Dante, you know there are five of them, right?
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[04:36:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird though, there were only four when i went to school.
[04:36:34] <mattie_p> yeah, they recently added southern ocean, not sure when
[04:36:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> aussies were jealous of the arctic
[04:37:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ocean envy
[04:37:17] <MrBluze> it's very wavy
[04:37:26] <MrBluze> the southern ocean
[04:37:47] <SpallsHurgenson> I learned seven. North and S Atlantic, N and S Pacific, Indian, Southern and Arctic.
[04:37:54] <mattie_p> http://en.wikipedia.org
[04:38:01] <mattie_p> some say it doesn't exist
[04:38:23] <NCommander> and back up and running
[04:38:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't mind. the aussies can have an ocean if they want one.
[04:38:55] <Bytram> NCommander: still always moving, I see?
[04:39:04] <NCommander> Bytram, talking about my computer but yes
[04:39:08] <NCommander> That's my philosphy
[04:39:13] <NCommander> The slower you go, the faster you die
[04:39:41] <Bytram> so I've seen. You're a hard one to follow, in the many senses of that phrase!
[04:40:38] <Bytram> NCommander: You might find this paper on "How to Prevent the Next Heartbleed" interesting: http://www.dwheeler.com
[04:41:51] <NCommander> Bytram, inded
[04:41:59] * NCommander is recovering files from tranquility
[04:42:12] <Bytram> I'm about 2/3 of the way through the paper.
[04:42:54] <Bytram> He wrote a fantastic paper a while back on problems with filenames in unix.
[04:43:54] <NCommander> Bytram, UNIX-HATERS is generally still accurate unfortunately
[04:44:34] <Bytram> NCommander: sounds somewhat familiar, but I don't really recall what that was about.
[04:46:28] <Bytram> NCommander: found it: http://www.dwheeler.com
[04:46:50] <Bytram> afk brb
[04:51:51] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Minecraft Map of Denmark Vandalised - http://sylnt.us - it-was-only-a-matter-of-time
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[05:02:00] <NCommander> Installing my dev environment
[05:02:01] <NCommander> Yay
[05:02:08] <Bytram> !woop
[05:02:08] <deadpeas> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[05:03:16] <chromas> Is that Zoidberg?
[05:03:27] <chromas> Or a crab of some sort?
[05:04:12] <Bytram> chromas: don't know, sorry!
[05:06:27] <mattie_p> I believe it is zoidberg
[05:06:47] <mattie_p> https://www.youtube.com
[05:07:03] <chromas> Yeah it looks like his kind of face
[05:08:44] <mattie_p> the commas are tentacles, I believe
[05:08:56] <chromas> Jewish shellfish; is that a paradox?
[05:09:03] <chromas> Same with Mr. Krabs
[05:10:10] <chromas> Or I should say
[05:10:18] <chromas> Jewish shellfish; is that a paradox or a hate-crime?
[05:15:13] * chromas made banana bread and remembered the sugar this time
[05:15:38] <NCommander> mmmmm banana
[05:16:18] <chromas> Nature's gluestick
[05:16:32] <mattie_p> yes, sugar is mandatory
[05:16:46] <chromas> It's sticky but doesn't hold things very well plus kids will eat it
[05:16:47] <SpallsHurgenson> banana is optional :)
[05:17:22] <chromas> Doesn't taste banana-y enough though
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[05:18:41] <Bytram|zzzz> g'night everyone!
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[05:23:32] <NCommander> chromas, strictly speaking, kosher says you won't eat it, not that you can't BE it
[05:23:48] <chromas> So cannibalism is out, then
[05:25:07] <chromas> NCommander: on your trip, the project you should do is porting slash to vd
[05:25:15] <chromas> s/vd/vb/
[05:25:15] <SedBot> <chromas> NCommander: on your trip, the project you should do is porting slash to vb
[05:25:22] <chromas> Nah it was right the first time
[05:25:45] <NCommander> :-P!
[05:26:01] <chromas> .net
[05:26:50] * mrcool|afk get's home from work
[05:27:04] mrcool|afk is now known as mrcoolbp
[05:27:13] <chromas> 'me is reading that doc about unix file names
[05:27:20] <juggs> NCommander, thanks for your SN post on how the back end architecture is being constructed. Might be blah blah for you, but from the outside looking in its interesting stuff.
[05:27:36] <NCommander> juggs, I think I'm going to write a part 2 tonight
[05:28:06] * NCommander is installing postgresql locally just incase
[05:28:24] <SpallsHurgenson> related: http://www.bbc.com "When did we start saying 'blah, blah, blah'?"
[05:28:30] <NCommander> psql (9.3.4)
[05:28:30] <NCommander> Type "help" for help.
[05:28:30] <NCommander> postgres=#
[05:28:31] <NCommander> Ah
[05:28:33] <NCommander> a real database :-)
[05:29:06] <chromas> SuperBase64
[05:33:53] * NCommander is compiling perl
[05:34:25] <chromas> NCommander: s/rl/rl.net/
[05:34:25] <SedBot> <chromas> <NCommander> is compiling perl.net
[05:36:09] <NCommander> Basically getting a setup so I can try and do slash -> mod_perl 2 porting :-)
[05:36:36] <chromas> And that's all you need to up to apache2?
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[05:40:13] <NCommander> chromas, no, there's code and ABI changes required
[05:43:11] <chromas> Hey now this is the family channel; shouldn't talk about bead insertion here
[05:47:57] <juggs> NCommander, one thing jumped out for me. The bit where you are struggling to get MySQL to a resilient state. I thought MySQL master / slave replication dealt with that. I've certainly seen setups with master / slave1 / slave2 where a slave can be removed from replication to allow back up then reintroduced to catch up with the cluster. Or is more concerns about failover should the master peg out?
[05:50:34] <NCommander> juggs, the later
[05:50:48] <NCommander> and frankly, mysql slave relication is fragile as fuck
[05:50:51] <NCommander> Its horrendously designed
[05:52:49] <chromas> I think MySQL needs an NCommanderTaco to rescue it
[05:56:17] <juggs> I'll take your word on it, it's been a good few years since I wrangled a fairly quiet site - then it was all LAMP. MySQL is kinda long in the tooth now and websites are expected to be high availability these days, I'm not surprised something has usurped that model, it had its place and time.
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[06:15:32] * NCommander purges more code from slash
[06:23:20] <NCommander> Showing 37 changed files with 11 additions and 3,731 deletions.
[06:23:21] <NCommander> Yay
[06:23:23] <NCommander> :-)
[06:32:05] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - US Navy Develops Secure E-Reader Called NeRD - http://sylnt.us - fixed-content-but-it-serves-a-purpose
[06:52:45] * MrBluze reads a short eulogy for MySQL
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[06:58:51] <MrBluze> too short for 8 bit character sets
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[08:31:35] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Taking Control - A Look at an F1 Steering Wheel - http://sylnt.us - but-how-do-you-tune-the-radio?
[08:54:17] <NCommander> Ok, got a full SN dev environment setup on 127.0.0.1
[08:55:13] <chromas> What about ::1?
[08:55:26] <chromas> Remember, you want ipv6 support!
[08:57:42] <NCommander> chromas, one step at a time :-)
[08:58:36] <chromas> Well, at least you'll be on the right track
[08:58:55] <NCommander> chromas, I've also got mod_perl 2.x building
[08:58:55] <NCommander> yay
[08:59:02] <chromas> cool
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[09:34:07] <NCommander> anyone awake?
[09:36:29] * chromas looks around but sees no hands
[09:37:07] <chromas> Did you do something awesome?
[09:37:25] <NCommander> chromas, not really
[09:37:31] * NCommander is just kinda .. blah
[09:37:36] <chromas> Aw
[09:37:43] * arti o.o
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[09:38:54] <chromas> I thought Ubuntu switched to your favorite initd. Mint is still using Upstart
[09:39:12] <chromas> Or has the switch just not happened yet?
[09:55:09] <NCommander> chromas, systemd switch won't be for another release or two, mint will adopt it since both debian and ubuntu will be using it
[09:55:13] * NCommander is just ... bleh
[09:56:17] * chromas is thinking up other things to cheer up NCommander, like mysql and windows 8
[09:59:20] <chromas> wtf
[09:59:41] <chromas> I go to search emails in thunderbird but instead it stops and asks if I want to search my mail or do a web search
[10:00:43] <chromas> I wonder if kmail is any good yet
[10:02:02] <chromas> Digging around at dev.soylent; no errors so far
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[10:10:54] <arti> :D
[10:11:06] <arti> l'oop
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[10:13:21] * arti hasn't used kmail recently
[10:17:47] <chromas> I used it for a while, then the akonadi db took a dump or something and it forgot what it was doing
[10:18:29] <chromas> Much like pulseaudio, they're porting everything to use their fancy new database and other 'cool' stuff before it's stable
[10:18:52] <chromas> But I do like how you can pipe your mail through programs and stuff
[10:20:38] <chromas> Any recommendations for email clients? Preferably gui
[10:21:10] <chromas> I also like opera mail when it had virtual folders
[10:21:58] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Internal Tobacco Documents Most Used In Research - http://sylnt.us - who-do-you-trust?
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[10:23:52] <chromas> Is your internet sick, crutchy?
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[10:27:47] <chromas> aw
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[10:38:12] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:38:12] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 20
[10:39:21] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:39:22] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 21
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[10:57:00] <crutchy> bacon++
[10:57:00] <deadpeas> karma - bacon: 226
[10:57:34] <crutchy> bacon++
[10:57:34] <deadpeas> karma - bacon: 227
[11:00:06] <crutchy> bacon++
[11:00:06] <deadpeas> karma - bacon: 228
[11:00:14] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:00:14] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 22
[11:02:06] * arti o.o
[11:02:27] <arti> experimenting with client side automation?
[11:05:46] <crutchy> experimenting with trying to keep my connection for more than 2 minutes
[11:05:52] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:05:52] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 23
[11:07:12] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:07:12] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 24
[11:08:34] <Brylarke> Worshipping bacon and coffee so you can stay alive?
[11:08:48] <Brylarke> How religious
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[11:17:45] <chromas> He timed out because he did not believe
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[11:18:26] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:18:26] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 25
[11:18:38] <chromas> inc(coffee)
[11:18:46] <crutchy> coffee++ is my connection test
[11:18:46] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 26
[11:19:33] <crutchy> hi chromas,arti,everyone
[11:20:13] <chromas> hi crutchy, arti and Bylarke who doesn't believe
[11:26:29] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:26:29] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 27
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[11:30:50] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Ka-Band: Future of Space Communications - http://sylnt.us
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[11:52:12] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:52:12] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 28
[12:06:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep
[12:06:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:06:33] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 29
[12:09:56] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:09:56] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 30
[12:15:23] <Brylarke> Does this only work if you worship coffee#
[12:16:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but it only works if you do it correctly
[12:16:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> poutine--
[12:16:30] <deadpeas> karma - poutine: -338
[12:17:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[12:17:04] <deadpeas> karma - nicotine: 1
[12:19:38] <crutchy> !whoup poutine
[12:19:38] <deadpeas> uppers of poutine are: andrew: 6, NCommander: 3, xlefay: 2, MrBluze_: 1, TheMightyBuzzard: 1, Mattiep: 1, robinld: 1, drgibbon: 1, kobach: 1
[12:19:50] <crutchy> !whodown poutine
[12:19:50] <deadpeas> downers of poutine are: kobach: -111, crutchy: -31, xlefay: -23, FoobarBazbot_: -19, FatPhil: -14, stderr: -13, andrew: -12, Khyber: -11, mattie_p: -11, mrcoolbp: -10, FoobarBazbot: -10, SoylentMUD: -9, swiss: -8, pbnjoe: -7, drcoolbp: -7, paulej72: -6, stdhell: -4, dx3bydt3: -4, FunPika: -3, MrBluze: -3, arti: -3, amblivious: -3, swisskid: -3, xyzzyyxxyx: -3, CHALLNGEACCPTD: - 1 more
[12:20:15] <crutchy> !whoup bacon
[12:20:15] <deadpeas> uppers of bacon are: kobach: 63, stderr: 46, crutchy: 27, xlefay: 17, mattie_p: 14, Blackmoore: 9, xyzzyyzzyx: 9, Alberto: 8, pbnjoe: 5, MrBluze: 5, juggs: 5, Marneus68: 3, MrBluze_Cmd: 2, TheMightyBuzzard: 2, Konomi: 2, FoobarBazbot: 2, stdhell: 2, swiss: 2, aqu4: 2, martyb: 1, chromas: 1, Mattiep: 1, paulej72_afk: 1, n1: 1, FatPhil: 1, hax0rz: 1, keick: 1, useless: - 1 more
[12:20:16] <NCommander> coffee--
[12:20:16] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 29
[12:20:20] <NCommander> bleck
[12:20:25] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:20:26] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 30
[12:20:29] <NCommander> coffee--
[12:20:30] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 29
[12:20:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> gah!
[12:20:39] <crutchy> coffee++++
[12:20:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander-- heretic
[12:20:40] <deadpeas> karma - ncommander: 25
[12:20:50] <NCommander> NCommander++ god
[12:20:54] <NCommander> aw ...
[12:21:04] <NCommander> !
[12:21:09] <crutchy> need a bot for that :-P
[12:21:14] <NCommander> s/\!/./
[12:21:19] <NCommander> s/!/./
[12:21:24] <chromas> $sr ++samorhc
[12:21:24] <aqu4> chromas++
[12:21:25] <NCommander> s\!\.
[12:21:27] <crutchy> NCommander++
[12:21:27] <deadpeas> karma - ncommander: 26
[12:21:42] <chromas> heh aqu4's ignored
[12:22:00] <crutchy> $rs ++yhcturc
[12:22:06] <crutchy> $sr ++yhcturc
[12:22:06] <aqu4> crutchy++
[12:22:13] <chromas> bots ignoring bots
[12:22:14] <crutchy> dammit
[12:22:17] <crutchy> lol
[12:22:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> root not god. god has to sudo.
[12:22:53] <NCommander> God is a responsible sysadmin and disables the root account on creation
[12:23:32] <crutchy> god is a responsible admin who destroys the server on acquisition
[12:25:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> yawn
[12:25:05] <crutchy> how are you NCommander?
[12:25:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/yawn/coffee++/
[12:25:27] <NCommander> crutchy, not well
[12:25:33] <crutchy> oh
[12:25:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> ever find your keys?
[12:25:51] <crutchy> not well healthwise?
[12:26:05] <crutchy> oh lost keys is bad
[12:27:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> having to dual boot windows is bad too
[12:27:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> much sympathy for our fearless leader
[12:28:01] <crutchy> windows tend to break if you boot them once let alone dually
[12:28:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes but they make pretty sounds when they do
[12:28:28] <crutchy> yeah... i hope whatever's keeping you down goes away soon NCommander
[12:28:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> is it The Man? I bet it's The Man.
[12:29:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> TheMan--
[12:29:23] <deadpeas> karma - theman: -1
[12:29:32] <crutchy> 8008135++
[12:29:32] <deadpeas> karma - 8008135: 8
[12:29:57] <crutchy> +++
[12:30:03] <crutchy> -++
[12:30:04] <NCommander> My keys did return
[12:30:30] <crutchy> good to hear. losing keys is stressful
[12:30:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> were they in the fridge? i find things in the fridge often.
[12:30:39] <crutchy> i don't
[12:30:52] <crutchy> i wish i could find muffins in my fridge
[12:30:58] <crutchy> that would be awesome
[12:31:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> put some in there and let the awesome rain down upon you
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[12:31:44] <crutchy> that means i must go out and buy the muffins
[12:32:01] <crutchy> fuck that
[12:32:27] <crutchy> damn muffin fairy not doing her damn job
[12:32:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> muffinfairy--
[12:32:38] <deadpeas> karma - muffinfairy: -1
[12:32:55] <crutchy> &++
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[12:34:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, i'm in the mood to trace down weird bugs in hacky perl code. thankfully i have some of both on hand.
[12:35:53] <crutchy> ¢яцŤčнÿ++
[12:36:29] <chromas> —++
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[12:37:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha, found one
[12:45:17] <chromas> Only one?
[12:47:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> one at a time anyway. no sense looking farther once you have one.
[12:49:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> it are squashed anyway. was checking $var == 0 when it was never initialized and i should have been checking ! defined $var
[12:49:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> also found some bad logic in the if above sheerly because it was in my field of view.
[12:55:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> three down
[13:03:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> there we go, found a confusing one
[13:06:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh, figured that one out too.
[13:21:12] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Flexible Battery For Wearable Electronics - http://sylnt.us - batteries-all-the-way-down
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[13:22:58] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:22:58] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 30
[13:24:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> so you could have battery as a sock instead of battery in a sock... nifty
[13:26:59] <crutchy> or a sock as a battery
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[13:28:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> just as long as it's heavy enough to club a baby seal to death
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[13:38:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, think the bugs are all squashed.
[13:38:51] <crutchy> famous last words
[13:39:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> no no no, i'd be happy with bugs today.
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[13:39:37] <crutchy> you should create some :-P
[13:39:45] <crutchy> to use your sock battery on
[13:40:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i will. nothing like adding new features to introduce new and exciting bugs
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[13:51:44] <crutchy> features that look like bugs are easy... the trick is to make a bug that looks like a feature
[13:52:43] <crutchy> only one that i know of is con/con in windows 98
[13:53:37] <crutchy> unless you count all of windows 98
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[14:12:19] <weeds> "It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood..."
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[14:17:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin weeds
[14:23:35] <weeds> good morning TheMightyBuzzard. What's on tap for today?
[14:24:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> writing some recreational perl so I'll have more bugs to squash. killed all the ones i already had.
[14:29:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh, think i killed all the bugs as i wrote it.
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[14:41:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> well shit. that script's working perfectly and even has a new feature. now wtf am i supposed to do?
[14:41:24] <crutchy> there's always slashcode
[14:41:39] <crutchy> that'll keep you going for years :-P
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[14:43:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> waiting on whoever it was fixing up the dev setup docs. can't be arsed to figure that out.
[14:43:39] <crutchy> g'day Bytram|away, weeds, TheMightyBuzzard
[14:43:53] <crutchy> hi deadpeas... nobody gives you any love do they
[14:43:58] <crutchy> deadpeas++
[14:43:58] <deadpeas> karma - deadpeas: 1
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[14:44:17] <Bytram> crutchy: g'day!
[14:44:33] <Bytram> story queue is a little light; will be busy for a bit
[14:45:42] <crutchy> newsflash! ...skittles sours are now available... with the sour on the INSIDE!!!
[14:45:50] <crutchy> ZOMG!!!
[14:45:56] <weeds> Bytram: can you just delete a story from the queue if you like?
[14:47:40] <mattie_p> we have the ability to delete stories if need be
[14:48:04] <weeds> take a look at the queue, I think there is one that should be cleaned out :)
[14:48:20] <weeds> hi mattie_p
[14:49:01] <mattie_p> hi weeds
[14:49:34] <mattie_p> taken care of, weeds
[14:50:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> the one from chubby anal goth? i thought it was quite informative.
[14:50:01] <weeds> just happened to notice passing by
[14:50:19] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Iran's President Vetoes WhatsApp Ban - http://sylnt.us - until-khamenei-finds-out
[14:50:21] <Bytram> yeah, that was pretty much content null.
[14:50:52] <weeds> TheMightyBuzzard: you already knew
[14:51:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> true
[14:53:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> neat, amazon got a patent for photographing things against a white background
[14:53:31] * Bytram hums paul simon's kodachrome to himself
[14:53:46] * MrBluze sues Bytram for no reason
[14:54:14] <MrBluze> ;)
[14:54:17] * Bytram starts humming runaround sue
[14:54:23] <MrBluze> lol
[14:54:32] <MrBluze> ok im off to bed see u all alter
[14:54:34] <MrBluze> later
[14:54:44] <Bytram> MrBluze: cya! sweet dreams
[14:55:01] <MrBluze> i think im just gonna be unconscious for 7.5 hours ;)
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[14:55:56] <Bytram> MrBluze|afk: nevermind. =)
[14:56:18] <weeds> later
[14:57:31] <weeds> There's a submission for you. (sorry, no chubby anal goth references)
[15:01:11] <Bytram> weeds: interesting article on retinoblastoma; informative. Don't see much to discuss about it, though. Or am I missing something?
[15:01:28] <Bytram> weeds: nvm, it's the software silly.
[15:02:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> if we go too much by what's interesting to discuss rather than what's just interesting, we become the mainstream media
[15:03:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> i for one do not welcome becoming like our TLA overlords
[15:04:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> also, i've decided getting mod bombed is a good thing for me. makes me submit stories.
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[15:05:55] <Woods> Dear Firefox v29: WTF, mate?
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[15:06:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're being too kind, Woods
[15:07:11] <Woods> I like the blurb "Firefox is totally customizable" ... By being less customizable.
[15:09:24] <Woods> Now the toolbars/tabs/etc take up twice as much space on my browser. And I cannot change it.
[15:09:55] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: point taken.
[15:10:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like that i have to install an extension to get back to something remotely resembling what i had last month.
[15:11:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> i look forward to the day when it gets abandoned by its author
[15:11:46] <Woods> This is like when Coke changed to "New Coke" and tasted like Pepsi. Firefox is now Chrome.
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[15:17:24] <Woods> Hehe. Someone called it Chromefox.
[15:18:03] <TK> That exists?
[15:18:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> you install Classic Theme Restorer?
[15:18:14] <TK> Best, or worst of both worlds?
[15:18:16] <Woods> I am just about to.
[15:18:21] <Woods> brb.
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[15:19:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> little buggy and not quite back to normal but it'll do if i have no choice.
[15:19:34] <Woods> Yeah, this is much better.
[15:19:48] <Woods> I like the boxy look that takes up less space than the "Smooth" look that takes up twice as much.
[15:19:49] <Bytram> fwiw, I use the LTS version. Don't like to fire up my browser and see things change unexpectedly.
[15:20:06] <Woods> Well we cannot all be as fancy as you, Bytram.
[15:20:27] <Bytram> nah, I like change, but only on MY terms! <grin>
[15:20:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, you are wise in the ways of something or other
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[15:21:59] <Bytram> yeah, I like to let others deal with the bleeding edge hile I build up a stash of bandages.
[15:22:04] <Bytram> s/hile/while/
[15:22:08] <weeds> Bytram: Right - I gave the background info first. The guy is trying to write an application that can detect the symptom in images.
[15:22:20] <TK> "Never be the first kid on the block to buy the new toy"
[15:22:41] <Bytram> TK: you mean let him buy it and then you steal it from him?
[15:22:51] <Bytram> FF LTS: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org
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[15:28:25] <Woods> TheMightyBuzzard: This is looking way way better now. I am only missing the activity indicator, which I will probably have to download an extension to get.
[15:29:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> what, the throbber? it's on each tab
[15:29:57] <Woods> But why?
[15:30:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> beats me
[15:30:24] <TK> bytram: that works too
[15:30:53] <Woods> That means I have to look in $NumberOfTabs places to see if the page is loading, as opposed to one place.
[15:31:11] <Woods> Well, better than nothing, I suppose.
[15:31:13] <TK> Or watch him/her use it and decide if the cheap Chinese knockoff is acceptable
[15:31:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> true but it lets you know which page is doing the doing
[15:31:23] <Woods> I suppose.
[15:31:40] <Woods> At least I can actually work now.
[15:31:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> it annoys me too but only mildly
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[15:33:08] <Blackmoore> coffee ++
[15:33:12] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[15:33:12] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 31
[15:33:37] <crutchy> coffee++
[15:33:37] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 32
[15:33:42] <crutchy> skittles++
[15:33:42] <deadpeas> karma - skittles: 1
[15:33:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[15:33:46] <deadpeas> karma - coffee: 33
[15:33:57] <Blackmoore> TheMightyBuzzard: what is throbbing? (my head for one)
[15:34:08] <crutchy> 8008135++
[15:34:08] <deadpeas> karma - 8008135: 9
[15:34:20] <Blackmoore> 8008135++
[15:34:20] <deadpeas> karma - 8008135: 10
[15:34:21] <Blackmoore> 8008135++
[15:34:21] <deadpeas> karma - 8008135: 11
[15:34:22] <Blackmoore> 8008135++
[15:34:22] <deadpeas> karma - 8008135: 12
[15:34:23] <Blackmoore> 8008135++
[15:34:23] <deadpeas> karma - 8008135: 13
[15:34:34] <weeds> do tell
[15:34:49] <Blackmoore> sorry. wife has huge tract.
[15:34:58] <crutchy> :-O
[15:35:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> Blackmoore, the little swirly activity indicator in FF. and the veins in my temples every time i have to rearrange the ui
[15:35:27] * crutchy wonders whether he read Blackmoore right
[15:35:45] <Blackmoore> yeah. the more i hear about chromefox the more i think about forking FF
[15:36:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> too much of a cunt to build much less maintain.
[15:36:23] <Blackmoore> crutchy: yes. you did.
[15:36:38] * crutchy prefers a simple socket
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[15:37:12] <TK> fork from 27.0.1 plox
[15:37:24] <Blackmoore> yeah i know - there is so much crap that browsers are expected to do that you can't possibly have a one man handle it
[15:37:51] <crutchy> need a team
[15:38:09] <crutchy> working together
[15:38:09] <TK> I can be the guy who holds the whip
[15:38:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> need A-Team
[15:38:27] <Blackmoore> and no just a team - but i'd have to get up to speed on whatever language they are developing in too.
[15:38:42] <crutchy> as long as i'm not the guy cleaning up the mess and sorting out the bugs
[15:39:12] <crutchy> i'd prefer to be the man up front in the driver's seat
[15:39:31] <crutchy> i'm sorry what were we talking about?
[15:39:54] <Blackmoore> now - i wouldnt mind playing with the code. but i dont have the time to be serious about ..... crutchy i think you were trying to drive something else.
[15:39:55] <Woods> We were talking about Blackmoore and his wife.
[15:40:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> beats me, i've got the A-Team intro stuck in my head
[15:40:14] <TK> woods, then I definitely want to be the guy with the whip
[15:40:38] <Blackmoore> I think my wife would fit fine on the a-team. she likes stuff that blows up.
[15:40:55] <Blackmoore> I'll drive the van.
[15:40:56] <Woods> I... Have... Nothing to say to that.
[15:41:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> how have i been using openbox this long without knowing you could make it place windows wherever the fuck you want them automagically?
[15:41:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Blackmoore, i'll pity the fools.
[15:41:26] <crutchy> i guess you need someone to bring up the read
[15:41:28] <Woods> Oohh! Dibs on being the face!
[15:41:31] <crutchy> s/read/rear/
[15:41:43] <Woods> I have a face, you know. There are pictures.
[15:41:57] <crutchy> every company needs a face
[15:42:09] <Blackmoore> I'll fully expect someone to knock me out when we have to get in a plane.
[15:42:19] <Woods> Drug the milk!
[15:42:52] <Blackmoore> Fool you aint getting me to drink that! *falls over asleep*
[15:43:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh, someone went apeshit n dropped all ten of their mod points to -1 me
[15:44:29] <Woods> orly? Who?
[15:44:57] <TK> TheMightyBuzzard--
[15:44:57] <deadpeas> karma - themightybuzzard: 1
[15:45:14] <Blackmoore> TheMightyBuzzard++
[15:45:14] <deadpeas> karma - themightybuzzard: 2
[15:45:21] <TK> I can do this all day
[15:45:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Woods, no idea. is amusing though.
[15:47:14] <paulej72> NCommander: pull request merged and thanks for merging mine.
[15:48:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> just as well i guess. hate wasting karma points by getting +ed while i'm at max.
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[15:49:57] <Woods> TheMightyBuzzard: How odd...
[15:50:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyone know what M2 is looking like?
[15:51:05] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Band Earns $20K for Silent Album on Spotify - http://sylnt.us - was-4'33"-a-bonus-track?
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[15:51:22] <crutchy> m2?
[15:51:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> meta-mod
[15:52:12] <crutchy> prolly looks like a big perl turd swirl
[15:53:24] <crutchy> tbh i didn't even realise m2 was in the making
[15:53:47] <crutchy> i don't pay much attention though
[15:53:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> NC did a journal post about it a while back
[15:54:25] <paulej72> are we talking about meta moderation?
[15:54:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep
[15:55:00] <paulej72> not on the todo list yet. We have too many other pressing issues.
[15:55:33] <paulej72> https://github.com
[16:01:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> shame. so you're saying get my dev on and start fixing bugs if I want m2 any time soon.
[16:03:30] <Woods> Sounds about right.
[16:03:47] <Woods> Also, large donations addressed to "Woods" aught to help.
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[16:07:46] <Blackmoore> I'll take donations too. Whiskey will do
[16:13:33] <crutchy> i have a position available for "muffin fairy"
[16:14:10] <Woods> Is that one who eats the muffins? Or... Something _else_....?
[16:14:42] <crutchy> it's nothing to do with Blackmoore's wife
[16:14:55] <crutchy> this time
[16:15:46] <Blackmoore> hehe
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[16:20:42] <crutchy> wb mechanicjay
[16:21:04] <mechanicjay> Hey crutchy
[16:26:40] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: yes that is what we are saying :)
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[16:27:22] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: and you will need to get on it fast, or NCommander might think that purging the code and starting fresh is better :)
[16:27:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> fine fine, tell me on https://github.com exactly which pages you're talking about and i'll fix it.
[16:29:06] <Brylarke> Everyone loves a good rewrite
[16:30:36] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: there are a bunch of admin pages for submisssions and almost all of them the templates have improper sturcure to the two divs in the comment. I have not had a chance to map all of the pages and templates that are broken
[16:31:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, can you point me to one that's done properly then?
[16:32:42] <crutchy> ~q
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[16:34:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> would dig it up myself but it's much easier to just read the code than get it working enough to see the bugs live
[16:34:53] <paulej72> https://dev.soylentnews.org has proper sturctures and show how these divs should work with multiple boxes. This page uses this template https://github.com
[16:35:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheers
[16:36:01] <paulej72> the broken template are probably all here https://github.com
[16:36:29] <paulej72> and here https://github.com
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[16:37:38] <paulej72> some templates have the generalbody without the generaltitle and that should not be. A title may need to be added.
[16:39:05] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: if you have not seen it here is the info for the VM http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[16:39:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, already found one of those
[16:39:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> looking at that now and dropping email.
[16:40:25] <paulej72> I need to get NCommander to cranck out a new one as we have made a few backend changes that makes updating the VM to the latest code a bit of a pain
[16:44:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> if he only changed the slashcode that's no biggie, just update from git
[16:46:02] <Woods> Unrelated: Bad news guys, the test GPO I made to install updates and restart.... It somehow propogated to the servers... And most of the other systems here...
[16:46:31] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: the database needs schema updates and some important trimming, plus the new templates must be installed as we had to toally change how the templates were installed
[16:46:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, nod nod
[16:47:27] <paulej72> Woods: that is why we have a QA domain for GPO testing. We call it Zeta.
[16:47:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'all good. learning from reading the code alone is harder but not undoable by any means.
[16:48:13] <Woods> Paulej72: Well, we are not as fancy as you. :P
[16:48:49] <Woods> This is like some dumb plot to a horrible TV show... I only have a certain amount of time to find each server that was affected, and remove the change before TIME RUNS OUT.
[16:49:17] <paulej72> what are you wasting your time here then :)
[16:49:23] <Woods> But, the servers are all on this easily accessed list, and thanks to mstsc, I can just remote in and run a gpupdate on each server. And I have like, 14 hours to do it.
[17:02:54] <Woods> Why do our new users insist on having an apostrophe in their name?
[17:03:14] <swiss> what's the current usercount?
[17:03:17] <swiss> i forget how to check
[17:03:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> why not? if the code can't deal with a lil ole apostrophe it needs to die in a fire.
[17:04:24] <Woods> TheMightyBuzzard: I am speaking of the company I work for, not SN. Windows Active Directory has no idea what an apostrophe is.
[17:04:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[17:05:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> just to be a pain in your ass then. least that's why my users do everything they do.
[17:05:08] <Woods> We have a Sad'e...
[17:06:23] <swiss> stop hiring foreigners
[17:06:44] <Woods> Swiss: Nothing foreign about them.
[17:07:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno why i'm grabbing the dev vm if it's too dated to use. i may have hit the point in my caffeination cycle where it's better to take a nap or do something mindless for a bit.
[17:08:42] <mattie_p> !usercount
[17:08:47] <mattie_p> !currentuser
[17:08:51] <mattie_p> !currentuid
[17:08:53] <mattie_p> !current-uid
[17:08:53] <deadpeas> The current maximum UID is 4304, owned by cmos
[17:08:58] <mattie_p> ahh, there we go
[17:09:45] <Woods> Ahhh Cmos, took him long enough.... This is the slowest boot cycle ever.
[17:11:09] <weeds> Woods++
[17:11:10] <deadpeas> karma - woods: 2
[17:17:07] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I can walk you through what is needed to update the dev environment
[17:19:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, nod nod. later today or tomorrow. think i overcaffeinated and fried my brain for the moment.
[17:20:11] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Detecting Retinoblastoma from Pictures - http://sylnt.us
[17:20:29] <paulej72> OK, most the DB changes are in updates files, you will just need to run the commands manually. There are a couple related to the new templates that we have not added to the updates file yet.
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[17:32:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> works for me. going to lazyass until after lunch.
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[18:51:20] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Amazon Patents Photos Against White Backgrounds - http://sylnt.us - I-must-change-to-a-black-background
[18:55:40] * NCommander wakes up
[18:56:48] * chromas doesn't remember a time when NCommander actually went to sleep
[18:56:54] <chromas> ever
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[18:59:24] <chromas> s/ever/Ahhh, yeah...mr SedBot sir/
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[18:59:34] <chromas> oh duh it doesn't have the history
[18:59:44] <chromas> s/()/Ahhh, yeah...mr SedBot sir/
[18:59:45] <SedBot> <chromas> Ahhh, yeah...mr SedBot siroh duh it doesn't have the history
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[19:57:31] * NCommander decides to sleep and uses chromas as apillow
[19:57:35] <NCommander> see, proof I sleep!
[19:58:22] * chromas accepts NCommander's proposal to give head
[19:58:34] <NCommander> .... I walked right into that one
[19:59:18] <chromas> and !quotilliabot won't store it :'(
[19:59:53] <NCommander> chromas, none the less, I'm afraid I must decline; I'm not talented enough to work with something that small. Sorry :-(
[20:00:29] <Blackmoore> I'm sure one of us has a microscope
[20:01:00] <chromas> What do you mean? You use your mouth all the time. Oh wait, that's your hands you talk a lot with
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[20:30:35] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Metropolitan Police To Trial Cameras On Uniforms - http://sylnt.us - a-trial-to-speed-up-trials
[20:45:52] <Blackmoore> and soon cameras will be mandated to wear everywhere, by everyone, at all times
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[20:48:44] <paulej72> Blackmoore: think of all the women’s locker room porn that would be available :)
[20:49:56] <paulej72> or if you are into it gay men’s locker room porn :P
[20:50:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> what, straight women can't be into gay porn for the same reason that straight men are into lesbian porn?
[20:55:42] <paulej72> :P
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[21:28:15] <Blackmoore> heck I knew a lesbian who like gey mens porn.
[21:29:18] <Blackmoore> but yes paulej72 - i can imagine the amature (and near instantaniously broadcasted) porn
[21:29:59] <Blackmoore> and I can see the divorce rate skyrocketing.
[21:30:57] <Blackmoore> Humans are a rather horney species.
[21:33:22] <NCommander> Greetings from the Lake Shore Limited
[21:33:33] * NCommander is so pumped up it isn't funny
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[21:34:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> Lake Shore Limited is the Boston-Chicago train, right?
[21:37:19] <NCommander> AndyTheAbsurd, also NYC-Chicago
[21:37:20] <NCommander> AndyTheAbsurd, two seperate trains merge into one at Albany
[21:38:53] * AndyTheAbsurd grew up not far outside of Albany
[21:39:24] <NCommander> AndyTheAbsurd, I'm sorry :-(
[21:39:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah it's a boring ass shithole of a place
[21:40:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> which explains why I moved to Boston for college and haven't been back much since
[21:41:41] <NCommander> I was referring to Boston, not Albany :-)
[21:43:58] <NCommander> and we're off
[21:44:09] <NCommander> Good bye penn station, hello Chicago!
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[21:51:35] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Sysadmins - Foreign Spies are Still Targeting You - http://sylnt.us - are-businesses-listening?
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[22:42:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> well fuck a duck. at&t having networking issues between me and the site.
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[23:10:35] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Liquid Cooled and Liquid Powered Computers - http://sylnt.us - not-available-at-a-store-near-you
[23:10:37] <SirFinkus> I guess sn didn't give them enough money for the fat pipe, since that's the world we live in now
[23:17:38] <Blackmoore> Well we could always ask netflix to pay you.
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[23:39:24] <Blackmoore> we beat slash to the punch on the Amazon article
[23:40:10] <SirFinkus> someone write this up https://www.unrealengine.com
[23:41:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> you mean like this? http://games.slashdot.org
[23:41:58] <SirFinkus> lol
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