#Soylent | Logs for 2014-04-29
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[00:00:17] <chromas> and the Q&As!
[00:00:47] <Blackmoore> and read the reviews!
[00:02:05] <chromas> Patrick J. McGovern is a pessimist
[00:02:14] <chromas> He should see it as half full
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[00:05:22] <Blackmoore> (damn it. I can not find the yellow cake mix - where the review complained that it would not work in his bomb
[00:05:30] <Blackmoore> ah well.
[00:05:37] <Blackmoore> g'night guys
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[00:10:36] <stderr> What's going on with the name voting? The longer it takes for you to tell us the result, the more we're going to think something fishy is going on.
[00:11:20] <n1> i don't think anyone is around right now who can answer that question
[00:11:57] <stderr> And it seems noone has been since the voting ended.
[00:13:39] <n1> :/
[00:14:09] <MrBluze|out> oh.. stderr
[00:14:16] <MrBluze|out> not fishy
[00:14:20] <MrBluze|out> just .. another word
[00:14:58] <stderr> "odd"?
[00:15:04] <MrBluze|out> yeah
[00:15:12] <MrBluze|out> pm for a sec stderr
[00:41:34] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Buys Fitness App - http://sylnt.us - gotta-catch-em-all
[00:43:09] <michealpwalls> lol stderr. What fishyness could go on with a simple name vote? :/
[00:44:40] <stderr> michealpwalls: Well, the voting ended two days ago, right? Why haven't we seen the result yet? Is someone trying to mess with the numbers so his choice will win?
[00:45:18] <stderr> Maybe that's no the case, but it is fishy that we still haven't seen the result.
[00:45:29] <stderr> s/no/not/
[00:45:29] <SedBot> <stderr> Maybe that's not the case, but it is fishy that we still haven't seen the result.
[01:01:45] <stderr> bryan: Is there something wrong with pipedot? When I try to log in, I get the front page, but it still has links to "Sign Up" and "Sign In".
[01:05:09] <chromas> haha
[01:05:27] <chromas> pipedot; stderr
[01:05:42] <chromas> Feels Unix-y
[01:05:47] <stderr> Yes?
[01:05:56] <stderr> https://pipedot.org
[01:07:00] <chromas> I konw
[01:07:01] <chromas> know
[01:07:21] <chromas> But it just seems funny that when there's an error, we find out from stderr
[01:07:29] <chromas> by reading stderr
[01:07:35] <stderr> Ah... :-)
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[01:18:18] <chromas> stderr: does it work now? I got in
[01:18:47] <stderr> I still get the "Sign In"-link.
[01:19:31] <chromas> Heh his poll system has ranking now
[01:19:38] <chromas> Maybe we should just borrow that for name voting
[01:19:54] <stderr> That's why I'm trying to log in. :-)
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[01:21:06] <chromas> Besides the other things the slashcode poll mentions as reasons to not take it seriously, it also forgets logged-in users have already voted. So wait a few hours and you can vote again, without sockpuppet accounts or clearing cookies or anything
[01:22:26] <stderr> Change IP-address and you can vote again right away... Or so I have heard... :-)
[01:22:50] <chromas> I just got a "score out of bounds [20]" from |.
[01:23:03] <chromas> I rated facebook etc at 100,000
[01:23:14] <chromas> Assuming 1 is best
[01:23:25] <stderr> https://pipedot.org
[01:23:37] <stderr> "(ie, it's impossible to rank something 9th place in a contest with only 8 places)."
[01:24:07] <chromas> Needs javascript so I can drag them into ranking order :-D
[01:25:28] <stderr> I don't like that voting system for the same reason I didn't like the SoylentNews voting system. I want to be able to give two (or more) choices the same score.
[01:28:43] <chromas> For example, maybe I run my friend's website and trust it equally
[01:29:09] <stderr> Yes, or when I don't trust any of the other options.
[01:30:01] <chromas> Or I don't have any friends so I trust them 0 :-)
[01:30:24] <chromas> or infinity since 1's highest
[01:31:01] <stderr> Hey! Just because they are invisible doesn't mean I don't trust them!
[01:31:11] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - British NHS to Build DNA Database in Stealth - http://sylnt.us - they-want-all-your-data-again
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[01:47:23] <paulej72> stderr: the second phase of the voting has been tabulated, but we need to secure the rights to the top domains before we release the names. We do not want squaters to get the top names before we get a change to register them. So far only one person has the data until some issues are worked out witn NCommander
[01:49:26] <stderr> Was it the top 5 or top 10 domains? How long does it take to buy those domains?
[01:49:52] <stderr> I also assume that some of those domains are already registered.
[01:59:46] <paulej72> stderr: The issue right now is NCommander is sleeping and what ever is blocking the release of the vote needs to be decided by him. I think we are planning on doing 5 from this vote.
[02:00:45] <stderr> Ok, but the voting ended 2 days ago. If he has been sleeping for 2 days, someone should check up on him...
[02:02:00] <paulej72> voting was just tabulated this moring. audioguy did the tabulation and he is on Pacific Daylight time
[02:02:45] <stderr> I still think it has been delayed way longer than it needed to be.
[02:03:15] <stderr> But whatever, it's 2 in the morning here, so I'm off to bed...
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[02:52:12] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Average U.S. Employee Takes Half Earned Vacation - http://sylnt.us - I-am-on-vacation-right-now-and-loving-it
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[03:19:50] <paulej72> hola folks
[03:20:41] <SpallsHurgenson> si, porque, pollo hablo espanol uno dos tres taco bell!
[03:20:52] * SpallsHurgenson speaks Spanish like a native :)
[03:23:07] <SpallsHurgenson> (a mentally challenged native, but a native nonetheless :)
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[03:32:35] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: Cape Assa? Sea!
[03:32:56] * Bytram can also speak Spanish like a nee-tive
[03:48:04] * SpallsHurgenson eats a plateful of Garbage (an unfortunate name for a tasty dish)
[03:48:50] <SpallsHurgenson> it consists of leftover noodles, fried in butter, with bacon and scrambled eggs.
[03:49:17] <SpallsHurgenson> it's called "garbage" because it has no redeeming dietary value - it's just salt, grease and carbohydrates :)
[03:50:23] <SpallsHurgenson> (it makes for a delicious and comforting meal, though :)
[04:21:20] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Inconclusive Evidence Makes People More Biased - http://sylnt.us - common-sense-cant-be-wrong
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[04:44:05] <SpallsHurgenson> call me strange, but I like compiz's wobbly windows.
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[04:52:52] <mrcoolbp> MrBluze: any reson you recommend using trans-ip?
[04:55:16] <mrcoolbp> s/reson/reason
[04:55:16] * SedBot offers mrcylbp a /
[04:55:25] <mrcoolbp> s/reson/reason/
[04:55:25] <SedBot> <mrculbp> MrBluze: any reason you recommend using trans-ip?
[04:55:58] * Bytram sees that sedbot does not like how your nick is spelled
[04:56:02] <mrcoolbp> hmm, it changed my name
[04:56:07] <mrcoolbp> just saw that
[04:56:30] <Bytram> Maybe it was trying for Culpepper?
[04:56:36] <SpallsHurgenson> it does that when you forget a trailing / :)
[04:56:42] <mrcoolbp> hah
[04:56:48] <mrcoolbp> little bastard
[04:56:49] <Bytram> s/cup/kelp
[04:56:49] * SedBot tosses a / to Bitram
[04:56:54] <Bytram> s/cup/kelp/
[04:57:05] <Bytram> s/culp/kelp/
[04:57:20] <mrcoolbp> heh
[04:57:37] <Bytram> if at first you don't succeed, avoid sky diving.
[04:57:48] <mrcoolbp> s/Culpepper/humor/
[04:57:56] <Bytram> s/sky//
[04:57:56] <SedBot> <Bytram> if at first you don't succeed, avoid diving.
[04:58:02] <mrcoolbp> lol
[04:58:14] <mrcoolbp> you have to do it wrong first
[04:58:21] <mrcoolbp> s/wrong/incorrectly
[04:58:22] * SedBot offers mrcylbp a /
[04:58:24] <mrcoolbp> s/wrong/incorrectly/
[04:58:24] <SedBot> <mrcoolbp> you have to do it incorrectly first
[04:58:33] <Bytram> s/avoid diving/try, try again
[04:58:34] * SedBot offers Bitrom a /
[04:58:50] <Bytram> s/avoid diving/try, try again
[04:58:51] * SedBot offers Butrim a /
[04:58:53] <Bytram> s/avoid diving/try, try again
[04:58:53] <SedBot> Batrom, did you know there's THREE slashes in a proper s/// command?
[04:58:58] <mrcoolbp> lol
[04:58:58] <Bytram> s/avoid diving/try, try again/
[04:59:09] <Bytram> if at first you don't succeed, avoid sky diving.
[04:59:12] <SpallsHurgenson> Well, that sucks for me because I never make a misteak.
[04:59:20] <mrcoolbp> hah
[04:59:40] <Bytram> yup, me neither. I only make miss takes.
[04:59:43] <Bytram> nograb
[04:59:57] <Bytram> or were those mist aches?
[05:00:30] <Bytram> nope. Must have been Myst aches.
[05:00:45] * mrcoolbp has to get off too bed, long day tomorrow
[05:00:58] <Bytram> s/m.st/z/g
[05:01:12] <SpallsHurgenson> only by a minute or so (and only in the northern hemisphere)
[05:01:20] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: I wish you a good night's sleep!
[05:01:25] <mrcoolbp> thanks
[05:01:43] <SpallsHurgenson> if you are south of the equator, it'll be a shorte day tomorrow (don't tell the boss :)
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[05:02:16] <Bytram> mrcool|zzz: ciao for now!
[05:02:52] <Bytram> actually, 'tis late here, as well.
[05:03:04] <Bytram> methinks it's time for some shuteye of my own.
[05:03:33] <Bytram> our feet are stayin'
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[05:08:53] * SpallsHurgenson has straying feet; they go to all sorts of interesting places without me :-/
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[07:21:48] <chromas> I know a married couple named Koch. Terri and Terry; both music teachers. Conspiracy?
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[09:41:16] <MrBluze> mrcool|zzz: transip only because price is so low
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[12:36:14] <MrBluze> HI Konomi
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[13:02:58] <Subsentient> derp
[13:03:09] <MrBluze> burp
[13:03:13] * Subsentient coughs
[13:03:25] <Subsentient> Not burp, DERP, bitchesssss!!!!
[13:03:57] <MrBluze> not bitches biatches
[13:05:55] <Subsentient> I've been enjoying OpenBSD as I work on porting Epoch to BSD.
[13:06:17] <Subsentient> It's a pleasant little operating system and it runs my DE xfce 4.10 just fine.
[13:06:43] <Subsentient> Takes some work like installing bash, gmake, wget, etc, but once I get that stuff down the rest is easy
[13:07:38] <MrBluze> bsd
[13:07:49] <Subsentient> MrBluze: yes?
[13:07:56] <MrBluze> but is it really more secure?
[13:08:03] <Subsentient> MrBluze: Yeah actually
[13:08:05] <MrBluze> like honestly truly ruly?
[13:08:19] <Subsentient> The security is dripping from the ceiling in OpenBSD.
[13:08:19] <MrBluze> how exactly is it
[13:08:20] <Subsentient> Yeah
[13:08:37] <MrBluze> i mean compared to say, hardened debian
[13:08:46] <Subsentient> For example look up propolice. The code is under constant security audit, apache was chrooted by default
[13:08:55] <Subsentient> lots more
[13:08:58] <MrBluze> that is nice
[13:10:12] <MrBluze> well for my needs if it runs some kind of x window manager it's probably doing enough
[13:10:25] <Subsentient> MrBluze: It runs KDE 4 too
[13:10:28] <Subsentient> and GNOME 3
[13:10:51] <MrBluze> yeah
[13:10:57] <Subsentient> The wifi is a pain in the ass and file system support leaves a lot to be desired, but it's small and fast and the bootloader is surprisingly excellent
[13:11:18] <Subsentient> Bootloader doesn't require passing root to boot USB.
[13:11:25] <Subsentient> It autodetects via bios
[13:11:29] <Subsentient> which is sweet
[13:11:33] <MrBluze> well file system u just use generic stuff anyway, and wifi .. well i got a usb wifi dongle
[13:11:51] <Subsentient> No, I mean the wifi drivers are really great
[13:11:55] <Subsentient> but you need CLI to connect lol
[13:12:00] <MrBluze> oh
[13:12:09] <Subsentient> ifconfig stuff
[13:12:19] <Subsentient> I wonder if anyone wanted to port networkmanager to that thing
[13:12:28] <Subsentient> or similar.
[13:12:31] <MrBluze> iwcd
[13:12:34] <Subsentient> yeah
[13:12:37] <MrBluze> or whatever it was called ..
[13:12:54] <MrBluze> im not afraid of ifconfig
[13:12:59] <MrBluze> actually making wifi hard is good
[13:13:00] <Subsentient> Nor am I.
[13:13:14] <MrBluze> it wont just randomly connect to stuff ;)
[13:13:33] <Subsentient> The only remaining issue is that it seems to hate my netbook's keyboard, and boots up 2/3 times with the keyboard disabled.
[13:14:04] <MrBluze> .. well if it disables your keyboard .. that is pretty damn secure ;)
[13:14:08] <MrBluze> nearly as good as an off switch
[13:14:23] <Subsentient> MrBluze: I also suggest building coreutils and gnu tar and installing them in /usr/local
[13:14:37] <MrBluze> so bsd is like it was ages ago .. very good and solid once u get it working, but a bit flaky in spots
[13:14:38] * Subsentient loves his cp -a and ps -A and tar xvf
[13:14:56] <Subsentient> yeah pretty much
[13:15:14] <MrBluze> nuttin wrong with that
[13:18:15] <MrBluze> im beginning to learn python .. but still beginning
[13:19:27] <Subsentient> MrBluze: Learn C.
[13:19:54] <MrBluze> i know c
[13:19:57] <MrBluze> and c++
[13:20:01] <MrBluze> and a smattering of asm
[13:20:14] <MrBluze> and php, basic, and used to be good with pascal
[13:20:37] <MrBluze> but i want to learn a useful scripting language that isn't perl cause perl makes my eyes bleed
[13:22:48] <stdhell> Pfffttt... Chicken!
[13:22:57] <MrBluze> lol
[13:23:09] <MrBluze> would u teach kids perl as a first langauge?
[13:23:17] <MrBluze> thats the other thing
[13:23:53] <stdhell> As a first language, no. I think I would teach them Danish as a first language.
[13:24:09] <MrBluze> programming langauge ofc
[13:24:56] <stdhell> Maybe sh?
[13:25:16] <MrBluze> bash?
[13:25:20] <stdhell> But Perl would be the next scripting language.
[13:25:24] <stdhell> No, sh.
[13:26:20] <MrBluze> for kids?
[13:27:00] <stdhell> Yes. sh or perl.
[13:27:06] <MrBluze> libsh.org
[13:27:58] <stdhell> Not that sh... sh as in the sh shell.
[13:28:52] <MrBluze> i dunno about makign that the first language
[13:28:56] <MrBluze> sh is something u can learn as needed
[13:29:23] <Brylarke> I tried learning bash but shortly gave up and just used python instead
[13:29:29] <stdhell> MrBluze: Are we talking about first language or first _scripting_ language?
[13:29:39] <MrBluze> first language
[13:29:58] <MrBluze> i figured it might as well just teach C++
[13:29:59] <MrBluze> or c/c++
[13:30:07] <stdhell> Ok, then 68k asm. :-)
[13:30:10] <MrBluze> but if i teach them python i can learn python ;)
[13:30:16] <MrBluze> 68k lol nice
[13:30:24] <MrBluze> my first langauge was gw-basic
[13:30:36] <MrBluze> 'cause it came with the dos disks
[13:30:48] <stdhell> Please do NOT teach something while you're learning it yourself.
[13:31:15] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Snowden Retained Expert in Espionage Act Defense - http://sylnt.us - First-kill-all-the-Lawyers
[13:31:24] <stdhell> * Flashback to bad memory from a C++ course... *
[13:31:36] <MrBluze> oh lol
[13:31:49] <MrBluze> if u are teaching a 10 year old, it's not quite so hard
[13:32:01] <stdhell> You know the course will suck, when the teacher starts the first lecture by saying that he's one chapter ahead of us in the book...
[13:32:26] <MrBluze> yeah sort of
[13:33:03] <stdhell> Some of us spend most of the course finding bugs in his programs.
[13:33:10] <MrBluze> but once u know the syntax, the usual functions and so on ..
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[13:33:35] <stdhell> Not just logical bugs, but bugs so bad the program wouldn't compile.
[13:33:37] <MrBluze> welcome android user
[13:33:42] <MrBluze> oh
[13:34:25] <stdhell> That's another good point: Make sure to test your demo programs first.
[13:34:41] <MrBluze> lol definitely
[13:34:58] <MrBluze> yeah maybe just i teach c++
[13:36:05] <Subsentient> yesss
[13:36:12] <Subsentient> I got the wall command to work under BSD
[13:36:27] <Subsentient> I suspect the rest of the system will 'just work' but I need the gonads to write a config file for that.
[13:36:34] <Subsentient> I have trouble reading /etc/rc.
[13:37:33] <MrBluze> headless?
[13:37:59] <MrBluze> xfce i forgot
[13:41:00] <Subsentient> MrBluze: http://universe2.us
[13:41:38] <MrBluze> hmm
[13:41:50] <MrBluze> i gotta try bsd again
[13:42:03] <Subsentient> MrBluze: I highly recommend OpenBSD over the others
[13:42:16] <stdhell> "Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to universe2.us" Oh, dear...
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[13:42:29] <Subsentient> stdhell: the fuck?
[13:42:38] <stdhell> A reload fixed it.
[13:42:51] <Subsentient> ahh
[13:43:53] <Subsentient> MrBluze: export PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.4/packages/i386/
[13:43:57] <Subsentient> pkg_add xfce
[13:44:18] <Subsentient> also pkg_add terminator geany gmake wget xfce4-screenshooter firefox xchat
[13:44:28] <MrBluze> Subsentient: another todo is to come over and pretty up your website
[13:44:46] <Subsentient> MrBluze: My site is a hefty dose of derp and proud.
[13:46:14] <Subsentient> MrBluze: BTW, OpenBSD 5.5 which comes out in like 3 days will have 64-bit time_t
[13:46:19] <Subsentient> so no more year 2038
[13:46:41] <Subsentient> But it breaks binary compatibility with everything, so be careful. You can upgrade but you'll need a CD>
[13:46:57] <MrBluze> so the end of the world will be postponed
[13:47:01] <Subsentient> indeed
[13:47:11] <MrBluze> bonus
[13:47:23] <Subsentient> I think that Linux still uses a signed 32-bit integer.
[13:47:26] <MrBluze> tho i wasnt expecting to live beyond 2038
[13:47:35] <Subsentient> MrBluze: how old are you
[13:47:48] <MrBluze> 30's
[13:47:58] * Subsentient wasn't expecting to live past Dec. 21 2012
[13:48:12] <MrBluze> lol
[13:48:15] <Subsentient> I was raised my whole life to believe the world would end on that day.
[13:48:25] <MrBluze> crikey
[13:48:33] <Subsentient> When I was five years old my mother told me the world would end in 12 years.
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[13:48:35] <MrBluze> well it did for some
[13:49:16] <Subsentient> I actually was making a homebrew Linux distro when it happened.
[13:49:49] <Subsentient> I released SubLinux-12-21-2012 "Doomsday Edition" that day.
[13:50:06] <MrBluze> ww3 will finish off a fair few if it eventuates
[13:50:18] <Subsentient> $burrito MrBluze
[13:50:18] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at MrBluze
[13:50:29] <MrBluze> yum
[13:50:30] <Subsentient> Glad to see you're alive aqu4.
[13:51:02] * Subsentient thinks about trying to build aqu4bot on NetBSD and FreeBSD and Darwin and Haiku, oh wait, I already built for Haiku, ok, AROS, and MonaOS, and ...
[13:51:55] <MrBluze> and workbench 1.33?
[13:52:11] <Subsentient> MrBluze: Might work. Hell, I got her to build on Windows, so anything's possible.
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[13:55:05] * Subsentient touts the advantages of writing standard-compliant platform-neutral code
[13:57:20] <MrBluze> i like gui's
[13:58:07] <Subsentient> MrBluze: eh?
[13:58:37] * Subsentient doesn't get the context
[13:58:51] <MrBluze> platform neutral is hard with gui
[13:58:58] <MrBluze> unless u use something like wxwidgets
[13:59:03] <Subsentient> Or GTK...
[13:59:05] <MrBluze> .. or maybe gtk yes
[13:59:07] <Subsentient> Windows, anyone?
[13:59:13] <Subsentient> lol
[13:59:24] <MrBluze> but its still a pita
[13:59:36] <MrBluze> cause stuff doesnt render uniformly across platforms
[13:59:43] * Subsentient likes gtk because it doesn't try and force him to use C++
[14:00:07] * MrBluze likes c++ so wx is fine
[14:41:23] <NCommander> paulej72, the only issue is that I need to buy the domains themselves
[14:42:45] <paulej72> NCommander: audioguy was not being clear what the issue was probably for security reasons.
[14:43:00] <paulej72> but thanks for the clarification
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[14:51:46] * NCommander still feels exhausted
[14:52:10] <LaminatorX> What does exhausted have to say about that?
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[14:56:36] <weeds> Good Morning
[15:01:22] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Three Atom Thick Nanowires Constructed - http://sylnt.us - Moore-smaller-wires
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[15:06:03] <xlefay> ar, hahaha @ dig +short
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[15:22:24] <Blackmoore> morning
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[15:33:34] <TK> top o
[15:33:38] <TK> the marnin
[15:37:03] <Blackmoore> g'day
[15:42:58] <weeds> TK: and the rest of the day to you!
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[15:45:20] <crutchy> testing testing ]
[15:46:01] <Blackmoore> 1 2 3 4
[15:46:01] <Subsentient> crutchy: derp derp
[15:46:10] <crutchy> woohoo!
[15:46:40] <crutchy> i thought i might have to get out and do stuff like a normal person for a while
[15:50:12] <TK> Does your definition of "normal" depend on your definitions of "get out" and "do stuff".
[15:50:28] <Blackmoore> what is this "normal" ?
[15:50:44] <Woods> What is this "Get out"?
[15:50:56] <Blackmoore> it sounds bland.
[15:50:58] <mrcool|zzz> what is this "do stuff?"
[15:51:17] <TK> It's like a subdued vanilla flavor
[15:51:28] <Subsentient> With more drywall flavoring.
[15:51:52] <TK> Precisely, gypsum wallboard is the latest foodie craze
[15:58:44] <Blackmoore> mm. no, I think I'll skip "normal"
[16:01:08] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Planetary Disks Discovered in Hubble Archives - http://sylnt.us - Coins-in-the-Seat-Cushion
[16:11:07] <Blackmoore> I will however - take a second helping of grits. and more bacon.
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[16:18:56] <Blackmoore> they blocked paetron? geh at this pace I'll need to set up a hot spot to some other device.. just so i can goof around at work!
[16:24:57] <crutchy> ljklk':"
[16:24:58] <crutchy> 'p-bg ngdvfb ;
[16:24:59] <crutchy> '?
[16:29:55] <TK> Anyone care to interpret crutchy's prophecy?
[16:30:25] <crutchy> err... it's female speak care of my missus :-P
[16:31:31] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - US Nuclear Missile Silos Use 8" Floppy Disks - http://sylnt.us - still-better-than-laserdisc
[16:34:14] <TK> A female...human?
[16:34:21] <TK> Or a female computer?
[16:35:17] <crutchy> femputer
[16:36:17] <Woods> I think you mean femBOT
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[16:47:51] <Blackmoore> quick offer is a sacrifice of shoes!
[17:01:15] <crutchy> or a gourd
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[17:06:15] * AndyTheAbsurd chews on Cyprus
[17:08:56] <crutchy> ew
[17:09:25] <Blackmoore> crap they're going rabid. *runs*
[17:11:05] <Cyprus> ewwwww
[17:11:13] * Cyprus wipes off with a towell
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[17:38:54] <TK> moo
[17:38:58] <TK> :(
[17:40:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> boo!
[17:41:14] <crutchy> exec is a bit busy atm
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[17:41:36] <crutchy> churning out 4 million characters in a terminal :-P
[17:42:15] <TK> Trying to look busy, eh?
[17:42:36] <TK> "Don't bother me, I'm hacking the mainframe gooey"
[17:42:41] <crutchy> well, trying to
[17:42:42] <crutchy> i think the terminal just took a dump :-(
[17:43:03] <crutchy> lol
[17:44:11] <crutchy> i can crash a program, but not hack one :-P
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[17:51:07] <LaminatorX> Tenting unto destruction?
[17:51:20] <LaminatorX> "Testing"
[17:51:31] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Pirate Bay Users Willing to Pay More for Content - http://sylnt.us - pigs-flying-by
[17:55:45] <NCommander> Morning world
[17:56:01] <Blackmoore> http://hackertyper.net there you go crutchy
[17:56:05] <Blackmoore> Mornin
[17:56:15] <Blackmoore> did you find your keys?
[17:59:27] <NCommander> Blackmoore, not yet
[17:59:34] <NCommander> Blackmoore, need to make calls to places I was
[17:59:43] * NCommander has remained very very zombified
[18:00:48] <LaminatorX> No revivify available then?
[18:03:07] <NCommander> LaminatorX, revive kills zombies
[18:03:11] * NCommander throws Final Fantasy at LaminatorX
[18:04:31] <Blackmoore> why can you not throw a Pheonix Down at anyone who is not in your party?
[18:04:46] <Blackmoore> damn you story line!
[18:04:47] <Landon> ok
[18:04:49] <Landon> this blew my mind
[18:04:58] <Landon> but I found out yesterday that phoenix down is the feathers, not the direction
[18:05:02] <Landon> pa-woooooooooooosh
[18:06:14] <LaminatorX> Ahh, but if one of your own characters has the zombie status, revivify removes it. ;)
[18:07:14] <LaminatorX> (At least it did in 3/VI)
[18:07:23] <NCommander> Blackmoore, depends on the game, you can do it in FFX (kinda)
[18:07:41] <NCommander> brb
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[18:16:00] <Blackmoore> FFX was the last one i played.
[18:16:32] <NCommander> I played FFX, and most of FFXII
[18:16:37] <NCommander> 13 was garbage
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[18:20:41] <Woods> Posit: When your game has reached double-digit sequels, it is time to move on.
[18:22:19] * NCommander notes the irony of "Final Fantasy" having any squels
[18:23:08] <TK> heh
[18:23:10] <Woods> "This is the 15th final fantasy" just really looks bad, imho.
[18:23:28] <Woods> Are they up to 15 yet? I forget.
[18:23:57] <TK> How does any RPG that has reviving items have any story conflicts?
[18:24:07] <Blackmoore> hehe well the problem is the lables. they dont want to take chances on something new. just beat it into the ground
[18:24:17] <TK> Make society focus all its energy on making pheonix downs/revive potions
[18:24:30] <TK> and you've solved the human condition
[18:24:32] <Blackmoore> much like hollywod, since a lot of those people run the lables now
[18:24:54] <TK> No need to create new characters/environments
[18:24:55] <Brylarke> Well you need to a) have a body and b) be able to reach said body to revive it surely
[18:25:01] <Blackmoore> hell you'd have solved FF X
[18:25:21] <TK> Sure, you've got to render everything in the new engine, but you don'thave to waste effort trying to be creative
[18:25:31] <TK> also "It prints money!!!!"
[18:25:41] <Woods> At least they are new characters every time, right?
[18:26:08] <TK> I haven't even played half of the games, but yes
[18:27:28] <TK> Brylarke: So in a Fargo situation where the body has been converted into mulch, there's no use in a revive
[18:27:37] <TK> So 95% of the human condition
[18:27:52] <Brylarke> heh
[18:29:30] <TK> There could be a "reassemble" spell
[18:29:55] <TK> Wizards must be advancing the state of the art daily
[18:31:31] <Blackmoore> .. so yeah, that's why i *need* to get back into programming and write indy games. there is too much recycled crap.
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[18:32:11] <TK> Make one where either death is permanent, or enemies can abuse pheonix downs
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[20:02:10] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Every MIT Student to Receive $100 in Bitcoins - http://sylnt.us - Crypto-Workstudy
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[20:21:37] <TK> How much does $100 worth of bitcoins cost in tuition?
[20:24:19] <Woods> About six teraflops.
[20:25:08] <TK> and how many beowulf clusters is that?
[20:26:39] <Woods> Assuming you are using hardware available when that phrase was coined... Like, a billion.
[20:27:29] <TK> alright, how many PS4s?
[20:27:32] <TK> Two?
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[20:29:08] <Blackmoore> :P
[20:29:39] <Blackmoore> well i can get a stack of PS2 from the pawn shop for a cople hundred..
[20:30:11] <Blackmoore> they should be more powerful than a Pi, i could be wrong
[20:31:24] <Woods> TK: Rough estimate... About a thousand.
[20:34:02] <Woods> Actually, I take that back, looks like someone already crunched the numbers for me, they said a single PS4 can do about 1.8 TFLOPS
[20:36:29] <TK> So $100 in bitcoins can buy five PS4s
[20:36:31] <TK> Sign me up
[20:36:54] <TK> three, not five
[20:37:05] <TK> still pretty good
[20:39:26] <Woods> "So even John Carmack, the man responsible for huge PC gaming innovations confirms it. A part used in a console has twice the efficiency of the same part used in a PC, as the PS4 is coded to the metal. Therefore, you need a 3.68 teraflop GPU to equal the optimized 1.84 teraflop GPU in PS4."
[20:39:32] <Woods> Wow, what a BS statement.
[20:43:41] <TK> wut?
[20:44:36] <TK> What "tech journalist" wrote that?
[20:45:25] <Woods> "MarkTheSlark "
[20:45:29] <Woods> http://www.giantbomb.com
[20:47:11] <TK> "ACCESS DENIED FOR POLICY REASONS"
[20:47:16] <TK> :(
[20:47:27] <TK> Thanks for filtering it out to the "good" parts
[20:48:11] <Woods> It is mostly just that first post saying how awesome the PS4 will be... Followed by a lot of this: "Teraflop teraflop teraflop. Terraflopppin!"
[20:48:27] <Blackmoore> sounds like a landed fish.
[20:48:48] <Blackmoore> FlopFlop FlopFlopFlop FlopFlop Flop Flop FlopvFlop
[20:48:53] <TK> blackmore: get out of my head
[20:48:54] <Woods> "That's a lot of flops.", etc.
[20:49:31] * NCommander is currently hunting for his keys
[20:49:35] <LaminatorX> Here a flop teraflop everywhere a flop flop.
[20:50:05] <Woods> There is more, but I will not bring down the channel with the horribleness.
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[20:52:55] <NCommander> not at the brewpub, or any other place I ate ...
[20:53:01] * NCommander wonders if they could be on Amtrak ...
[20:53:02] <NCommander> ugh
[20:53:11] * NCommander goes through his bag again to check
[20:54:30] <Woods> Probably in the bag with your laptop.
[20:54:33] <Blackmoore> not the hotel?
[20:55:02] <TK> still sticking out from your door?
[20:55:10] <Woods> Did you swallow them?
[20:56:46] <NCommander> Blackmoore, not in either bag
[21:08:22] <Blackmoore> rental car?
[21:21:48] <NCommander> Blackmoore, located, they're in Rochester, and on there way home
[21:22:31] <Blackmoore> good to hear!
[21:23:00] <Blackmoore> now we go back to flopping around right?
[21:24:00] <Blackmoore> OK, i kinda want to submit a story about the modded minecraft drama. (oh the drama)
[21:24:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> Rochester, NY or Rochester, NH?
[21:25:22] <Blackmoore> asie.pl/drama.php
[21:28:45] <Blackmoore> AndyTheAbsurd: NY. where are you right now NCommander?
[21:29:21] <NCommander> Blackmoore, New Hampshire
[21:29:29] <NCommander> er, AndyTheAbsurd
[21:29:45] <arti> man you're all over the place
[21:30:08] * arti would miss sleeping in his own bed
[21:30:53] <LaminatorX> I have some family in Derry. It's quite lovely.
[21:32:55] <NCommander> arti, what bed :-)
[21:33:05] <NCommander> LaminatorX, I'm actually seriously looking at Madbury
[21:33:57] <Landon> LaminatorX: derry......maine?
[21:42:56] <stderr> [17:14:41] <NerdRPG> stderr, Nerdfest, SirFinkus, and swiss have completed their journey! 25% of their burden is eliminated.
[21:42:56] <stderr> [17:14:49] <NerdRPG> stderr, the I/O-stream, has attained level 51! Next level in 13 days, 11:00:08.
[21:42:56] <stderr> It would have been so much better, if those two events had happened in the other order. :-/ 8 freaking seconds. :-(
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[21:49:21] <swiss> lol
[21:49:27] <LaminatorX> Derry NH in this case, Landon.
[21:50:37] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Internet Service Providers Hold Us All to Ransom - http://sylnt.us - tfa-seems-to-be-loading-slow...
[21:51:22] <LaminatorX> Close enough to Boston to truck in when you feel like Big City, far enough from town to be pretty and spacious when you don't.
[21:51:35] <Landon> and no murderous space clowns :)
[21:52:07] <LaminatorX> Mind you, I'd consider that a negative.
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[22:06:35] <NCommander> LaminatorX, hrm ...
[22:37:34] <NCommander> ugh, I feel like giving up on today
[22:39:50] <LaminatorX> Sometimes you have to just back off and let today hit rock bottom on its own. It doesn't mean you don't love it, you just have to set some boundaries and stop enabling.
[22:40:39] <Woods> Is... Is today a binge drinker?
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[22:41:58] <WizardSoftware> Evening
[22:43:15] <everdred> Afternoon
[22:47:11] <Blackmoore> eh. hi
[22:47:28] <NCommander> LaminatorX, I know that feeling
[22:48:02] <Blackmoore> Woods: yes, i think today actually was binge drinking, and it's turned abusive.
[22:49:10] <NCommander> Screw it
[22:49:12] <NCommander> Going out for awhile
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[23:11:33] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Cast of Star Wars VII Announced - http://sylnt.us - 100-percent-less-jar-jar-binks
[23:15:44] <LaminatorX> !list
[23:15:44] <deadpeas> available plugins: admin, cfg, chan, chatlog, core, fleet, grabquote, ignore, irc, karma, koffie, lod, markov, more, plug, relay, soylentrss, sylnt, todo, twitter, uidchecker, urlinfo, user
[23:15:56] <LaminatorX> !help
[23:15:56] <deadpeas> documentation for jsonbot can be found at http://jsonbot.org
[23:16:00] <deadpeas> see !list for loaded plugins and "!help plugin" for help on the plugin.
[23:16:25] <chromas> should !todo update jsonbot uri
[23:16:43] <LaminatorX> So indeed. :)
[23:17:27] <Landon> heh
[23:17:32] <chromas> wait what?
[23:17:39] <chromas> "JSONBOT is a remote event-driven framework for building bots that talk JSON to each other over XMPP"
[23:17:50] <chromas> json over xmpp? Redundant much?
[23:26:16] <LaminatorX> Gnight all.
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[23:28:43] <Blackmoore> gnight
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[23:41:56] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - MSE Bug Crashes Windows XP - http://sylnt.us - not-supported-probably-means-not-tested
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