#Soylent | Logs for 2014-04-29
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[23:41:56] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - MSE Bug Crashes Windows XP - http://sylnt.us - not-supported-probably-means-not-tested
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[23:28:43] <Blackmoore> gnight
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[23:26:16] <LaminatorX> Gnight all.
[23:17:50] <chromas> json over xmpp? Redundant much?
[23:17:39] <chromas> "JSONBOT is a remote event-driven framework for building bots that talk JSON to each other over XMPP"
[23:17:32] <chromas> wait what?
[23:17:27] <Landon> heh
[23:16:43] <LaminatorX> So indeed. :)
[23:16:25] <chromas> should !todo update jsonbot uri
[23:16:00] <deadpeas> see !list for loaded plugins and "!help plugin" for help on the plugin.
[23:15:56] <deadpeas> documentation for jsonbot can be found at http://jsonbot.org
[23:15:56] <LaminatorX> !help
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[23:11:33] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Cast of Star Wars VII Announced - http://sylnt.us - 100-percent-less-jar-jar-binks
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[22:51:18] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Hiding a Pregnancy from Big Data - http://sylnt.us - pregnancy-might-equal-terrorism
[22:49:12] <NCommander> Going out for awhile
[22:49:10] <NCommander> Screw it
[22:48:02] <Blackmoore> Woods: yes, i think today actually was binge drinking, and it's turned abusive.
[22:47:28] <NCommander> LaminatorX, I know that feeling
[22:47:11] <Blackmoore> eh. hi
[22:43:15] <everdred> Afternoon
[22:41:58] <WizardSoftware> Evening
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[22:40:39] <Woods> Is... Is today a binge drinker?
[22:39:50] <LaminatorX> Sometimes you have to just back off and let today hit rock bottom on its own. It doesn't mean you don't love it, you just have to set some boundaries and stop enabling.
[22:37:34] <NCommander> ugh, I feel like giving up on today
[22:06:35] <NCommander> LaminatorX, hrm ...
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[21:52:07] <LaminatorX> Mind you, I'd consider that a negative.
[21:51:35] <Landon> and no murderous space clowns :)
[21:51:22] <LaminatorX> Close enough to Boston to truck in when you feel like Big City, far enough from town to be pretty and spacious when you don't.
[21:50:37] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Internet Service Providers Hold Us All to Ransom - http://sylnt.us - tfa-seems-to-be-loading-slow...
[21:49:27] <LaminatorX> Derry NH in this case, Landon.
[21:49:21] <swiss> lol
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[21:42:56] <stderr> It would have been so much better, if those two events had happened in the other order. :-/ 8 freaking seconds. :-(
[21:42:56] <stderr> [17:14:49] <NerdRPG> stderr, the I/O-stream, has attained level 51! Next level in 13 days, 11:00:08.
[21:42:56] <stderr> [17:14:41] <NerdRPG> stderr, Nerdfest, SirFinkus, and swiss have completed their journey! 25% of their burden is eliminated.
[21:33:57] <Landon> LaminatorX: derry......maine?
[21:33:05] <NCommander> LaminatorX, I'm actually seriously looking at Madbury
[21:32:55] <NCommander> arti, what bed :-)
[21:30:53] <LaminatorX> I have some family in Derry. It's quite lovely.
[21:30:08] * arti would miss sleeping in his own bed
[21:29:45] <arti> man you're all over the place
[21:29:29] <NCommander> er, AndyTheAbsurd
[21:29:21] <NCommander> Blackmoore, New Hampshire
[21:28:45] <Blackmoore> AndyTheAbsurd: NY. where are you right now NCommander?
[21:25:22] <Blackmoore> asie.pl/drama.php
[21:24:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> Rochester, NY or Rochester, NH?
[21:24:00] <Blackmoore> OK, i kinda want to submit a story about the modded minecraft drama. (oh the drama)
[21:23:00] <Blackmoore> now we go back to flopping around right?
[21:22:31] <Blackmoore> good to hear!
[21:21:48] <NCommander> Blackmoore, located, they're in Rochester, and on there way home
[21:08:22] <Blackmoore> rental car?
[20:56:46] <NCommander> Blackmoore, not in either bag
[20:55:10] <Woods> Did you swallow them?
[20:55:02] <TK> still sticking out from your door?
[20:54:33] <Blackmoore> not the hotel?
[20:54:30] <Woods> Probably in the bag with your laptop.
[20:53:11] * NCommander goes through his bag again to check
[20:53:02] <NCommander> ugh
[20:53:01] * NCommander wonders if they could be on Amtrak ...
[20:52:55] <NCommander> not at the brewpub, or any other place I ate ...
[20:51:47] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Chernobyl's Birds Adapting to Ionising Radiation - http://sylnt.us - could-also-explain-the-flying-pigs-from-earlier
[20:50:05] <Woods> There is more, but I will not bring down the channel with the horribleness.
[20:49:35] <LaminatorX> Here a flop teraflop everywhere a flop flop.
[20:49:31] * NCommander is currently hunting for his keys
[20:48:54] <Woods> "That's a lot of flops.", etc.
[20:48:53] <TK> blackmore: get out of my head
[20:48:48] <Blackmoore> FlopFlop FlopFlopFlop FlopFlop Flop Flop FlopvFlop
[20:48:27] <Blackmoore> sounds like a landed fish.
[20:48:11] <Woods> It is mostly just that first post saying how awesome the PS4 will be... Followed by a lot of this: "Teraflop teraflop teraflop. Terraflopppin!"
[20:47:27] <TK> Thanks for filtering it out to the "good" parts
[20:47:16] <TK> :(
[20:47:11] <TK> "ACCESS DENIED FOR POLICY REASONS"
[20:45:29] <Woods> http://www.giantbomb.com
[20:45:25] <Woods> "MarkTheSlark "
[20:44:36] <TK> What "tech journalist" wrote that?
[20:43:41] <TK> wut?
[20:39:32] <Woods> Wow, what a BS statement.
[20:39:26] <Woods> "So even John Carmack, the man responsible for huge PC gaming innovations confirms it. A part used in a console has twice the efficiency of the same part used in a PC, as the PS4 is coded to the metal. Therefore, you need a 3.68 teraflop GPU to equal the optimized 1.84 teraflop GPU in PS4."
[20:37:05] <TK> still pretty good
[20:36:54] <TK> three, not five
[20:36:31] <TK> Sign me up
[20:36:29] <TK> So $100 in bitcoins can buy five PS4s
[20:34:02] <Woods> Actually, I take that back, looks like someone already crunched the numbers for me, they said a single PS4 can do about 1.8 TFLOPS
[20:31:24] <Woods> TK: Rough estimate... About a thousand.
[20:30:11] <Blackmoore> they should be more powerful than a Pi, i could be wrong
[20:29:39] <Blackmoore> well i can get a stack of PS2 from the pawn shop for a cople hundred..
[20:29:08] <Blackmoore> :P
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[20:27:32] <TK> Two?
[20:27:29] <TK> alright, how many PS4s?
[20:26:39] <Woods> Assuming you are using hardware available when that phrase was coined... Like, a billion.
[20:25:08] <TK> and how many beowulf clusters is that?
[20:24:19] <Woods> About six teraflops.
[20:21:37] <TK> How much does $100 worth of bitcoins cost in tuition?
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[18:32:11] <TK> Make one where either death is permanent, or enemies can abuse pheonix downs
[18:32:01] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - John Oliver Interviews General Keith Alexander - http://sylnt.us - Or-did-he...
[18:31:31] <Blackmoore> .. so yeah, that's why i *need* to get back into programming and write indy games. there is too much recycled crap.
[18:29:55] <TK> Wizards must be advancing the state of the art daily
[18:29:30] <TK> There could be a "reassemble" spell
[18:27:52] <Brylarke> heh
[18:27:37] <TK> So 95% of the human condition
[18:27:28] <TK> Brylarke: So in a Fargo situation where the body has been converted into mulch, there's no use in a revive
[18:26:08] <TK> I haven't even played half of the games, but yes
[18:25:41] <Woods> At least they are new characters every time, right?
[18:25:31] <TK> also "It prints money!!!!"
[18:25:21] <TK> Sure, you've got to render everything in the new engine, but you don'thave to waste effort trying to be creative
[18:25:01] <Blackmoore> hell you'd have solved FF X
[18:24:55] <Brylarke> Well you need to a) have a body and b) be able to reach said body to revive it surely
[18:24:54] <TK> No need to create new characters/environments
[18:24:32] <Blackmoore> much like hollywod, since a lot of those people run the lables now
[18:24:30] <TK> and you've solved the human condition
[18:24:17] <TK> Make society focus all its energy on making pheonix downs/revive potions
[18:24:07] <Blackmoore> hehe well the problem is the lables. they dont want to take chances on something new. just beat it into the ground
[18:23:57] <TK> How does any RPG that has reviving items have any story conflicts?
[18:23:28] <Woods> Are they up to 15 yet? I forget.
[18:23:10] <Woods> "This is the 15th final fantasy" just really looks bad, imho.
[18:23:08] <TK> heh
[18:22:19] * NCommander notes the irony of "Final Fantasy" having any squels
[18:20:41] <Woods> Posit: When your game has reached double-digit sequels, it is time to move on.
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[18:16:37] <NCommander> 13 was garbage
[18:16:32] <NCommander> I played FFX, and most of FFXII
[18:16:00] <Blackmoore> FFX was the last one i played.
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[18:07:41] <NCommander> brb
[18:07:23] <NCommander> Blackmoore, depends on the game, you can do it in FFX (kinda)
[18:07:14] <LaminatorX> (At least it did in 3/VI)
[18:06:14] <LaminatorX> Ahh, but if one of your own characters has the zombie status, revivify removes it. ;)
[18:05:02] <Landon> pa-woooooooooooosh
[18:04:58] <Landon> but I found out yesterday that phoenix down is the feathers, not the direction
[18:04:49] <Landon> this blew my mind
[18:04:47] <Landon> ok
[18:04:46] <Blackmoore> damn you story line!
[18:04:31] <Blackmoore> why can you not throw a Pheonix Down at anyone who is not in your party?
[18:03:11] * NCommander throws Final Fantasy at LaminatorX
[18:03:07] <NCommander> LaminatorX, revive kills zombies
[18:00:48] <LaminatorX> No revivify available then?
[17:59:43] * NCommander has remained very very zombified
[17:59:34] <NCommander> Blackmoore, need to make calls to places I was
[17:59:27] <NCommander> Blackmoore, not yet
[17:56:15] <Blackmoore> did you find your keys?
[17:56:05] <Blackmoore> Mornin
[17:56:01] <Blackmoore> http://hackertyper.net there you go crutchy
[17:55:45] <NCommander> Morning world
[17:51:31] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Pirate Bay Users Willing to Pay More for Content - http://sylnt.us - pigs-flying-by
[17:51:20] <LaminatorX> "Testing"
[17:51:07] <LaminatorX> Tenting unto destruction?
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[17:44:11] <crutchy> i can crash a program, but not hack one :-P
[17:43:03] <crutchy> lol
[17:42:42] <crutchy> i think the terminal just took a dump :-(
[17:42:41] <crutchy> well, trying to
[17:42:36] <TK> "Don't bother me, I'm hacking the mainframe gooey"
[17:42:15] <TK> Trying to look busy, eh?
[17:41:36] <crutchy> churning out 4 million characters in a terminal :-P
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[17:41:14] <crutchy> exec is a bit busy atm
[17:40:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> boo!
[17:38:58] <TK> :(
[17:38:54] <TK> moo
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[17:11:13] * Cyprus wipes off with a towell
[17:11:05] <Cyprus> ewwwww
[17:09:25] <Blackmoore> crap they're going rabid. *runs*
[17:08:56] <crutchy> ew
[17:06:15] * AndyTheAbsurd chews on Cyprus
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[17:01:15] <crutchy> or a gourd
[16:47:51] <Blackmoore> quick offer is a sacrifice of shoes!
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[16:36:17] <Woods> I think you mean femBOT
[16:35:17] <crutchy> femputer
[16:34:21] <TK> Or a female computer?
[16:34:14] <TK> A female...human?
[16:31:31] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - US Nuclear Missile Silos Use 8" Floppy Disks - http://sylnt.us - still-better-than-laserdisc
[16:30:25] <crutchy> err... it's female speak care of my missus :-P
[16:29:55] <TK> Anyone care to interpret crutchy's prophecy?
[16:24:59] <crutchy> '?
[16:24:58] <crutchy> 'p-bg ngdvfb ;
[16:24:57] <crutchy> ljklk':"
[16:18:56] <Blackmoore> they blocked paetron? geh at this pace I'll need to set up a hot spot to some other device.. just so i can goof around at work!
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[16:11:07] <Blackmoore> I will however - take a second helping of grits. and more bacon.
[16:01:08] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Planetary Disks Discovered in Hubble Archives - http://sylnt.us - Coins-in-the-Seat-Cushion
[15:58:44] <Blackmoore> mm. no, I think I'll skip "normal"
[15:51:52] <TK> Precisely, gypsum wallboard is the latest foodie craze
[15:51:28] <Subsentient> With more drywall flavoring.
[15:51:17] <TK> It's like a subdued vanilla flavor
[15:50:58] <mrcool|zzz> what is this "do stuff?"
[15:50:56] <Blackmoore> it sounds bland.
[15:50:44] <Woods> What is this "Get out"?
[15:50:28] <Blackmoore> what is this "normal" ?
[15:50:12] <TK> Does your definition of "normal" depend on your definitions of "get out" and "do stuff".
[15:46:40] <crutchy> i thought i might have to get out and do stuff like a normal person for a while
[15:46:10] <crutchy> woohoo!
[15:46:01] <Subsentient> crutchy: derp derp
[15:46:01] <Blackmoore> 1 2 3 4
[15:45:20] <crutchy> testing testing ]
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[15:42:58] <weeds> TK: and the rest of the day to you!
[15:37:03] <Blackmoore> g'day
[15:33:38] <TK> the marnin
[15:33:34] <TK> top o
[15:31:45] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - English School Data Available to Private Firms - http://sylnt.us - Privatise-U
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[15:22:24] <Blackmoore> morning
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[15:06:03] <xlefay> ar, hahaha @ dig +short
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[15:01:22] <deadpeas> [SoylentNews] - Three Atom Thick Nanowires Constructed - http://sylnt.us - Moore-smaller-wires
[14:56:36] <weeds> Good Morning
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[14:52:10] <LaminatorX> What does exhausted have to say about that?
[14:51:46] * NCommander still feels exhausted
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[14:43:00] <paulej72> but thanks for the clarification
[14:42:45] <paulej72> NCommander: audioguy was not being clear what the issue was probably for security reasons.
[14:41:23] <NCommander> paulej72, the only issue is that I need to buy the domains themselves
[14:00:07] * MrBluze likes c++ so wx is fine
[13:59:43] * Subsentient likes gtk because it doesn't try and force him to use C++
[13:59:36] <MrBluze> cause stuff doesnt render uniformly across platforms
[13:59:24] <MrBluze> but its still a pita
[13:59:13] <Subsentient> lol
[13:59:07] <Subsentient> Windows, anyone?
[13:59:05] <MrBluze> .. or maybe gtk yes
[13:59:03] <Subsentient> Or GTK...
[13:58:58] <MrBluze> unless u use something like wxwidgets
[13:58:51] <MrBluze> platform neutral is hard with gui
[13:58:37] * Subsentient doesn't get the context
[13:58:07] <Subsentient> MrBluze: eh?
[13:57:20] <MrBluze> i like gui's
[13:55:05] * Subsentient touts the advantages of writing standard-compliant platform-neutral code
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[13:52:11] <Subsentient> MrBluze: Might work. Hell, I got her to build on Windows, so anything's possible.
[13:51:55] <MrBluze> and workbench 1.33?
[13:51:02] * Subsentient thinks about trying to build aqu4bot on NetBSD and FreeBSD and Darwin and Haiku, oh wait, I already built for Haiku, ok, AROS, and MonaOS, and ...
[13:50:30] <Subsentient> Glad to see you're alive aqu4.
[13:50:29] <MrBluze> yum
[13:50:18] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at MrBluze
[13:50:18] <Subsentient> $burrito MrBluze
[13:50:06] <MrBluze> ww3 will finish off a fair few if it eventuates
[13:49:49] <Subsentient> I released SubLinux-12-21-2012 "Doomsday Edition" that day.
[13:49:16] <Subsentient> I actually was making a homebrew Linux distro when it happened.
[13:48:35] <MrBluze> well it did for some
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[13:48:33] <Subsentient> When I was five years old my mother told me the world would end in 12 years.
[13:48:25] <MrBluze> crikey
[13:48:15] <Subsentient> I was raised my whole life to believe the world would end on that day.
[13:48:12] <MrBluze> lol
[13:47:58] * Subsentient wasn't expecting to live past Dec. 21 2012
[13:47:48] <MrBluze> 30's
[13:47:35] <Subsentient> MrBluze: how old are you
[13:47:26] <MrBluze> tho i wasnt expecting to live beyond 2038
[13:47:23] <Subsentient> I think that Linux still uses a signed 32-bit integer.
[13:47:11] <MrBluze> bonus
[13:47:01] <Subsentient> indeed
[13:46:57] <MrBluze> so the end of the world will be postponed
[13:46:41] <Subsentient> But it breaks binary compatibility with everything, so be careful. You can upgrade but you'll need a CD>
[13:46:19] <Subsentient> so no more year 2038
[13:46:14] <Subsentient> MrBluze: BTW, OpenBSD 5.5 which comes out in like 3 days will have 64-bit time_t
[13:44:46] <Subsentient> MrBluze: My site is a hefty dose of derp and proud.
[13:44:28] <MrBluze> Subsentient: another todo is to come over and pretty up your website
[13:44:18] <Subsentient> also pkg_add terminator geany gmake wget xfce4-screenshooter firefox xchat
[13:43:57] <Subsentient> pkg_add xfce
[13:43:53] <Subsentient> MrBluze: export PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.4/packages/i386/
[13:42:51] <Subsentient> ahh
[13:42:38] <stdhell> A reload fixed it.
[13:42:29] <Subsentient> stdhell: the fuck?
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[13:42:16] <stdhell> "Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to universe2.us" Oh, dear...
[13:42:03] <Subsentient> MrBluze: I highly recommend OpenBSD over the others
[13:41:50] <MrBluze> i gotta try bsd again
[13:41:38] <MrBluze> hmm
[13:41:00] <Subsentient> MrBluze: http://universe2.us
[13:37:59] <MrBluze> xfce i forgot
[13:37:33] <MrBluze> headless?
[13:36:34] <Subsentient> I have trouble reading /etc/rc.
[13:36:27] <Subsentient> I suspect the rest of the system will 'just work' but I need the gonads to write a config file for that.
[13:36:12] <Subsentient> I got the wall command to work under BSD
[13:36:05] <Subsentient> yesss
[13:34:58] <MrBluze> yeah maybe just i teach c++
[13:34:41] <MrBluze> lol definitely
[13:34:25] <stdhell> That's another good point: Make sure to test your demo programs first.
[13:33:42] <MrBluze> oh
[13:33:37] <MrBluze> welcome android user
[13:33:35] <stdhell> Not just logical bugs, but bugs so bad the program wouldn't compile.
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[13:33:10] <MrBluze> but once u know the syntax, the usual functions and so on ..
[13:33:03] <stdhell> Some of us spend most of the course finding bugs in his programs.
[13:32:26] <MrBluze> yeah sort of
[13:32:01] <stdhell> You know the course will suck, when the teacher starts the first lecture by saying that he's one chapter ahead of us in the book...
[13:31:49] <MrBluze> if u are teaching a 10 year old, it's not quite so hard
[13:31:36] <MrBluze> oh lol
[13:31:24] <stdhell> * Flashback to bad memory from a C++ course... *
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[13:30:48] <stdhell> Please do NOT teach something while you're learning it yourself.
[13:30:36] <MrBluze> 'cause it came with the dos disks
[13:30:24] <MrBluze> my first langauge was gw-basic
[13:30:16] <MrBluze> 68k lol nice
[13:30:10] <MrBluze> but if i teach them python i can learn python ;)
[13:30:07] <stdhell> Ok, then 68k asm. :-)
[13:29:59] <MrBluze> or c/c++
[13:29:58] <MrBluze> i figured it might as well just teach C++
[13:29:39] <MrBluze> first language
[13:29:29] <stdhell> MrBluze: Are we talking about first language or first _scripting_ language?
[13:29:23] <Brylarke> I tried learning bash but shortly gave up and just used python instead
[13:28:56] <MrBluze> sh is something u can learn as needed
[13:28:52] <MrBluze> i dunno about makign that the first language
[13:27:58] <stdhell> Not that sh... sh as in the sh shell.
[13:27:06] <MrBluze> libsh.org
[13:27:00] <stdhell> Yes. sh or perl.
[13:26:20] <MrBluze> for kids?
[13:25:24] <stdhell> No, sh.
[13:25:20] <stdhell> But Perl would be the next scripting language.
[13:25:16] <MrBluze> bash?
[13:24:56] <stdhell> Maybe sh?
[13:24:09] <MrBluze> programming langauge ofc
[13:23:53] <stdhell> As a first language, no. I think I would teach them Danish as a first language.
[13:23:17] <MrBluze> thats the other thing
[13:23:09] <MrBluze> would u teach kids perl as a first langauge?
[13:22:57] <MrBluze> lol
[13:22:48] <stdhell> Pfffttt... Chicken!
[13:20:37] <MrBluze> but i want to learn a useful scripting language that isn't perl cause perl makes my eyes bleed
[13:20:14] <MrBluze> and php, basic, and used to be good with pascal
[13:20:01] <MrBluze> and a smattering of asm
[13:19:57] <MrBluze> and c++
[13:19:54] <MrBluze> i know c
[13:19:27] <Subsentient> MrBluze: Learn C.
[13:18:15] <MrBluze> im beginning to learn python .. but still beginning
[13:15:14] <MrBluze> nuttin wrong with that
[13:14:56] <Subsentient> yeah pretty much
[13:14:38] * Subsentient loves his cp -a and ps -A and tar xvf
[13:14:37] <MrBluze> so bsd is like it was ages ago .. very good and solid once u get it working, but a bit flaky in spots
[13:14:23] <Subsentient> MrBluze: I also suggest building coreutils and gnu tar and installing them in /usr/local
[13:14:08] <MrBluze> nearly as good as an off switch
[13:14:04] <MrBluze> .. well if it disables your keyboard .. that is pretty damn secure ;)
[13:13:33] <Subsentient> The only remaining issue is that it seems to hate my netbook's keyboard, and boots up 2/3 times with the keyboard disabled.
[13:13:14] <MrBluze> it wont just randomly connect to stuff ;)
[13:13:00] <Subsentient> Nor am I.
[13:12:59] <MrBluze> actually making wifi hard is good
[13:12:54] <MrBluze> im not afraid of ifconfig
[13:12:37] <MrBluze> or whatever it was called ..
[13:12:34] <Subsentient> yeah
[13:12:31] <MrBluze> iwcd
[13:12:28] <Subsentient> or similar.
[13:12:19] <Subsentient> I wonder if anyone wanted to port networkmanager to that thing
[13:12:09] <Subsentient> ifconfig stuff
[13:12:00] <MrBluze> oh
[13:11:55] <Subsentient> but you need CLI to connect lol
[13:11:51] <Subsentient> No, I mean the wifi drivers are really great
[13:11:33] <MrBluze> well file system u just use generic stuff anyway, and wifi .. well i got a usb wifi dongle
[13:11:29] <Subsentient> which is sweet
[13:11:25] <Subsentient> It autodetects via bios
[13:11:18] <Subsentient> Bootloader doesn't require passing root to boot USB.
[13:10:57] <Subsentient> The wifi is a pain in the ass and file system support leaves a lot to be desired, but it's small and fast and the bootloader is surprisingly excellent
[13:10:51] <MrBluze> yeah
[13:10:28] <Subsentient> and GNOME 3
[13:10:25] <Subsentient> MrBluze: It runs KDE 4 too
[13:10:12] <MrBluze> well for my needs if it runs some kind of x window manager it's probably doing enough
[13:08:58] <MrBluze> that is nice
[13:08:55] <Subsentient> lots more
[13:08:46] <Subsentient> For example look up propolice. The code is under constant security audit, apache was chrooted by default
[13:08:37] <MrBluze> i mean compared to say, hardened debian
[13:08:20] <Subsentient> Yeah
[13:08:19] <MrBluze> how exactly is it
[13:08:19] <Subsentient> The security is dripping from the ceiling in OpenBSD.
[13:08:05] <MrBluze> like honestly truly ruly?
[13:08:03] <Subsentient> MrBluze: Yeah actually
[13:07:56] <MrBluze> but is it really more secure?
[13:07:49] <Subsentient> MrBluze: yes?
[13:07:38] <MrBluze> bsd
[13:06:43] <Subsentient> Takes some work like installing bash, gmake, wget, etc, but once I get that stuff down the rest is easy
[13:06:17] <Subsentient> It's a pleasant little operating system and it runs my DE xfce 4.10 just fine.
[13:05:55] <Subsentient> I've been enjoying OpenBSD as I work on porting Epoch to BSD.
[13:03:57] <MrBluze> not bitches biatches
[13:03:25] <Subsentient> Not burp, DERP, bitchesssss!!!!
[13:03:13] * Subsentient coughs
[13:03:09] <MrBluze> burp
[13:02:58] <Subsentient> derp
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[12:36:14] <MrBluze> HI Konomi
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[09:41:16] <MrBluze> mrcool|zzz: transip only because price is so low
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[05:08:53] * SpallsHurgenson has straying feet; they go to all sorts of interesting places without me :-/
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[05:03:33] <Bytram> our feet are stayin'
[05:03:04] <Bytram> methinks it's time for some shuteye of my own.
[05:02:52] <Bytram> actually, 'tis late here, as well.
[05:02:16] <Bytram> mrcool|zzz: ciao for now!
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[05:01:43] <SpallsHurgenson> if you are south of the equator, it'll be a shorte day tomorrow (don't tell the boss :)
[05:01:25] <mrcoolbp> thanks
[05:01:20] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: I wish you a good night's sleep!
[05:01:12] <SpallsHurgenson> only by a minute or so (and only in the northern hemisphere)
[05:00:58] <Bytram> s/m.st/z/g
[05:00:45] * mrcoolbp has to get off too bed, long day tomorrow
[05:00:30] <Bytram> nope. Must have been Myst aches.
[04:59:57] <Bytram> or were those mist aches?
[04:59:43] <Bytram> nograb
[04:59:40] <Bytram> yup, me neither. I only make miss takes.
[04:59:20] <mrcoolbp> hah
[04:59:12] <SpallsHurgenson> Well, that sucks for me because I never make a misteak.
[04:59:09] <Bytram> if at first you don't succeed, avoid sky diving.
[04:58:58] <Bytram> s/avoid diving/try, try again/
[04:58:58] <mrcoolbp> lol
[04:58:53] <SedBot> Batrom, did you know there's THREE slashes in a proper s/// command?
[04:58:53] <Bytram> s/avoid diving/try, try again
[04:58:51] * SedBot offers Butrim a /
[04:58:50] <Bytram> s/avoid diving/try, try again
[04:58:34] * SedBot offers Bitrom a /
[04:58:33] <Bytram> s/avoid diving/try, try again
[04:58:24] <SedBot> <mrcoolbp> you have to do it incorrectly first
[04:58:24] <mrcoolbp> s/wrong/incorrectly/
[04:58:22] * SedBot offers mrcylbp a /
[04:58:21] <mrcoolbp> s/wrong/incorrectly
[04:58:14] <mrcoolbp> you have to do it wrong first
[04:58:02] <mrcoolbp> lol
[04:57:56] <SedBot> <Bytram> if at first you don't succeed, avoid diving.
[04:57:56] <Bytram> s/sky//
[04:57:48] <mrcoolbp> s/Culpepper/humor/
[04:57:37] <Bytram> if at first you don't succeed, avoid sky diving.
[04:57:20] <mrcoolbp> heh
[04:57:05] <Bytram> s/culp/kelp/
[04:56:54] <Bytram> s/cup/kelp/
[04:56:49] * SedBot tosses a / to Bitram
[04:56:49] <Bytram> s/cup/kelp
[04:56:48] <mrcoolbp> little bastard
[04:56:42] <mrcoolbp> hah
[04:56:36] <SpallsHurgenson> it does that when you forget a trailing / :)
[04:56:30] <Bytram> Maybe it was trying for Culpepper?
[04:56:07] <mrcoolbp> just saw that
[04:56:02] <mrcoolbp> hmm, it changed my name
[04:55:58] * Bytram sees that sedbot does not like how your nick is spelled
[04:55:25] <SedBot> <mrculbp> MrBluze: any reason you recommend using trans-ip?
[04:55:25] <mrcoolbp> s/reson/reason/
[04:55:16] * SedBot offers mrcylbp a /
[04:55:16] <mrcoolbp> s/reson/reason
[04:52:52] <mrcoolbp> MrBluze: any reson you recommend using trans-ip?
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[03:50:23] <SpallsHurgenson> (it makes for a delicious and comforting meal, though :)
[03:49:17] <SpallsHurgenson> it's called "garbage" because it has no redeeming dietary value - it's just salt, grease and carbohydrates :)
[03:48:50] <SpallsHurgenson> it consists of leftover noodles, fried in butter, with bacon and scrambled eggs.
[03:48:04] * SpallsHurgenson eats a plateful of Garbage (an unfortunate name for a tasty dish)
[03:32:56] * Bytram can also speak Spanish like a nee-tive
[03:32:35] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: Cape Assa? Sea!
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[03:23:07] <SpallsHurgenson> (a mentally challenged native, but a native nonetheless :)
[03:20:52] * SpallsHurgenson speaks Spanish like a native :)
[03:20:41] <SpallsHurgenson> si, porque, pollo hablo espanol uno dos tres taco bell!
[03:19:50] <paulej72> hola folks
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[02:03:15] <stderr> But whatever, it's 2 in the morning here, so I'm off to bed...
[02:02:45] <stderr> I still think it has been delayed way longer than it needed to be.
[02:02:00] <paulej72> voting was just tabulated this moring. audioguy did the tabulation and he is on Pacific Daylight time
[02:00:45] <stderr> Ok, but the voting ended 2 days ago. If he has been sleeping for 2 days, someone should check up on him...
[01:59:46] <paulej72> stderr: The issue right now is NCommander is sleeping and what ever is blocking the release of the vote needs to be decided by him. I think we are planning on doing 5 from this vote.
[01:49:52] <stderr> I also assume that some of those domains are already registered.
[01:49:26] <stderr> Was it the top 5 or top 10 domains? How long does it take to buy those domains?
[01:47:23] <paulej72> stderr: the second phase of the voting has been tabulated, but we need to secure the rights to the top domains before we release the names. We do not want squaters to get the top names before we get a change to register them. So far only one person has the data until some issues are worked out witn NCommander
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[01:31:01] <stderr> Hey! Just because they are invisible doesn't mean I don't trust them!
[01:30:24] <chromas> or infinity since 1's highest
[01:30:01] <chromas> Or I don't have any friends so I trust them 0 :-)
[01:29:09] <stderr> Yes, or when I don't trust any of the other options.
[01:28:43] <chromas> For example, maybe I run my friend's website and trust it equally
[01:25:28] <stderr> I don't like that voting system for the same reason I didn't like the SoylentNews voting system. I want to be able to give two (or more) choices the same score.
[01:24:07] <chromas> Needs javascript so I can drag them into ranking order :-D
[01:23:37] <stderr> "(ie, it's impossible to rank something 9th place in a contest with only 8 places)."
[01:23:25] <stderr> https://pipedot.org
[01:23:14] <chromas> Assuming 1 is best
[01:23:03] <chromas> I rated facebook etc at 100,000
[01:22:50] <chromas> I just got a "score out of bounds [20]" from |.
[01:22:26] <stderr> Change IP-address and you can vote again right away... Or so I have heard... :-)
[01:21:06] <chromas> Besides the other things the slashcode poll mentions as reasons to not take it seriously, it also forgets logged-in users have already voted. So wait a few hours and you can vote again, without sockpuppet accounts or clearing cookies or anything
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[01:19:54] <stderr> That's why I'm trying to log in. :-)
[01:19:38] <chromas> Maybe we should just borrow that for name voting
[01:19:31] <chromas> Heh his poll system has ranking now
[01:18:47] <stderr> I still get the "Sign In"-link.
[01:18:18] <chromas> stderr: does it work now? I got in
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[01:07:35] <stderr> Ah... :-)
[01:07:29] <chromas> by reading stderr
[01:07:21] <chromas> But it just seems funny that when there's an error, we find out from stderr
[01:07:01] <chromas> know
[01:07:00] <chromas> I konw
[01:05:56] <stderr> https://pipedot.org
[01:05:47] <stderr> Yes?
[01:05:42] <chromas> Feels Unix-y
[01:05:27] <chromas> pipedot; stderr
[01:05:09] <chromas> haha
[01:01:45] <stderr> bryan: Is there something wrong with pipedot? When I try to log in, I get the front page, but it still has links to "Sign Up" and "Sign In".
[00:45:29] <SedBot> <stderr> Maybe that's not the case, but it is fishy that we still haven't seen the result.
[00:45:29] <stderr> s/no/not/
[00:45:18] <stderr> Maybe that's no the case, but it is fishy that we still haven't seen the result.
[00:44:40] <stderr> michealpwalls: Well, the voting ended two days ago, right? Why haven't we seen the result yet? Is someone trying to mess with the numbers so his choice will win?
[00:43:09] <michealpwalls> lol stderr. What fishyness could go on with a simple name vote? :/
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[00:15:12] <MrBluze|out> pm for a sec stderr
[00:15:04] <MrBluze|out> yeah
[00:14:58] <stderr> "odd"?
[00:14:20] <MrBluze|out> just .. another word
[00:14:16] <MrBluze|out> not fishy
[00:14:09] <MrBluze|out> oh.. stderr
[00:13:39] <n1> :/
[00:11:57] <stderr> And it seems noone has been since the voting ended.
[00:11:20] <n1> i don't think anyone is around right now who can answer that question
[00:10:36] <stderr> What's going on with the name voting? The longer it takes for you to tell us the result, the more we're going to think something fishy is going on.
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[00:05:37] <Blackmoore> g'night guys
[00:05:30] <Blackmoore> ah well.
[00:05:22] <Blackmoore> (damn it. I can not find the yellow cake mix - where the review complained that it would not work in his bomb
[00:02:31] -!- lhsi [lhsi!~yaaic@uvsf-29-830-75-357.as58994.net] has parted #Soylent
[00:02:14] <chromas> He should see it as half full
[00:02:05] <chromas> Patrick J. McGovern is a pessimist
[00:00:47] <Blackmoore> and read the reviews!
[00:00:17] <chromas> and the Q&As!