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[23:41:46] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - The StarCraft Tournament for Politicians - http://sylnt.us - politics-is-just-a-different-game
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[22:10:37] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - A Case Against ISP Tolls - http://sylnt.us - greedy-folk-want-payment-twice
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[20:31:22] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - North Korea Army Must be Able to Beat U.S - http://sylnt.us - demanding-is-one-thing-achieving-it-another
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[18:31:52] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Closer to Eliminating Heart Disease - http://sylnt.us - one-beat-at-a-time
[18:26:49] <michealpwalls> valid points :)
[18:26:44] <michealpwalls> HEH
[18:20:40] <SirFinkus> see, it holds up Ken Thompson like a champ
[18:18:30] <SirFinkus> everything locks, and it's extremely sturdy
[18:18:04] <SirFinkus> its fucking awesome
[18:17:48] <michealpwalls> That looks old and uncomfortable LOL
[18:17:42] <michealpwalls> Wow
[18:17:15] <SirFinkus> oh god, I have that exact same desk http://i.imgur.com
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[17:28:03] <michealpwalls> I could get 0% packet loss when I ping irc.sylnt.us but hexchat would timeout when connecting :/
[17:27:20] <michealpwalls> Yay I connected! :)
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[17:04:29] <SoyCow3970> Thanks for the help.
[17:03:42] <SoyCow3970> That works. :-)
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[17:02:01] <SoyCow3970> Thanks. Now to try that...
[17:01:45] <n1> i'm not sure where the limits are, but general text formatting and links certainly work
[17:01:19] <SoyCow3970> Not used to that, every forums or comments section usally filters out html due to problems.
[17:01:16] <n1> i'll be honest i've never tried any other way of doing it, but straight HTML is the best way of doing it, obviously not a solution for everyone
[17:00:43] <SoyCow3970> Ok. So it uses stright html. Didn't know that.
[17:00:25] <n1> would be how you make a link to google with the text "Google" as the link
[17:00:06] <n1> <a href="http://google.com" >Google</a>
[17:00:04] <SoyCow3970> So I went hunting for docs and notice there is not help docs for editing comments.
[16:59:39] <SoyCow3970> Yea, I've tried [url], but that didn't work according to preview.
[16:59:16] <n1> you want to put a link in a comment on a story?
[16:59:00] <SoyCow3970> Ah. its alive. :-)
[16:58:49] <n1> hi SoyCow3970
[16:58:29] <SoyCow3970> ?
[16:58:26] <SoyCow3970> Nothing but bots in here
[16:58:17] * SoyCow3970 drops a pin.
[16:56:21] <SoyCow3970> Tried finding the freenode channel...failed to remember the name. So using the web chat. I've tried to find the editor help to no avail, how does one do a url link in a comment or submission?
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[16:50:35] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Google Glass App for More Privacy? - http://sylnt.us - who-watches-the-watchers?-well,-the-watchers-do
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[16:29:16] <Bytram> crutchy|zzz: gnight!
[16:28:56] <crutchy|zzz> night soylent
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[16:16:12] <deadbeef> karma - space_man: 1
[16:16:12] <Bytram> Space_Man++
[16:16:10] <Bytram> yup, works for me! Updating story link!!
[16:15:28] <Bytram> Space_Man: thanks for that! checking it now.
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[16:14:44] <Space_Man> this link works here http://circ.ahajournals.org
[16:13:29] <Blackmoore> heh. didnt even know i had a score :P
[16:12:48] <deadbeef> karma - blackmoore: 2
[16:12:48] <Bytram|afk> Blackmoore++
[16:12:43] <deadbeef> karma - crutchy: 60
[16:12:43] <Bytram|afk> crutchy++
[16:12:35] <Bytram|afk> Thanks! I saw what looked like a GUID at the end; wondered if it was per-user or per-story/abstract.
[16:12:09] <Blackmoore> confirmed
[16:11:53] <crutchy> yup
[16:09:50] <Bytram|afk> http://circ.ahajournals.org
[16:09:49] <Bytram|afk> I'm reviewing a story; could someone please confirm this link brings up an abstract for me?
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[16:01:50] <janrinok> LaminatorX - Thanks for that - hope to see you around in the not to distant future. Good luck!
[16:01:45] <michealpwalls> Along with Ron Paul supporters haha
[16:01:41] <michealpwalls> We'll probs all be on some list now :P
[16:01:31] <michealpwalls> I like the old "Soylent is People!" phrase, rather than the New Hampshire/'Live Free or Die'... Seems too political :X
[16:00:15] <michealpwalls> I don't get it. Buncha schizophrenic designers :P
[16:00:06] <michealpwalls> It seeemed to be: File|Edit|Tools, to being rolled up into a brand-button ("Firefox"), to being rolled up into a "Gear" button. Now the gear's replaced with the stupid 3 lines..
[15:58:52] <michealpwalls> Well except IE, IE's always behind the curve. They'll probs have the gear for at least another year or two LOL
[15:58:50] <janrinok> crutchy: Bytram|afk is on his way back in a short while. We want every story to be seen by 2 eds before release and at weekends in particular, that causes a bit of a problem.
[15:58:39] <michealpwalls> These fads come and go so fast.. It wasn't long ago that all browsers seemed to have a "Gear" button. Now they all have the "3 lines" buttons... LOL
[15:55:33] <crutchy> janrinok... i would check for you if i could
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[15:50:18] <michealpwalls> The giant alien spacecraft... name "V'Ger" LOL! Epic story :)
[15:49:55] <michealpwalls> Speaking of that! I just watched 'Star Trek: The Motion Picture' for the first time in it's entirety.. What an awesome story! LOL
[15:49:54] <janrinok> anyway, hope you are good also.
[15:49:24] <michealpwalls> LMAO
[15:49:21] <janrinok> I thought you were relaying via Voyager 2
[15:49:08] <michealpwalls> Sorry hehe
[15:49:02] <michealpwalls> hehe nah it's not lag, just flipping between things
[15:48:52] <janrinok> checked*
[15:48:41] <janrinok> michealpwalls: good thanks, that was quite a time lag. Have you check your pings?
[15:48:12] <janrinok> ...you can never find an ed when you need them, and then 2 or 3 will turn up at once..
[15:48:08] <michealpwalls> Just replying to my morning flood of emails hehe
[15:47:58] <michealpwalls> Good, yourselves? :)
[15:47:36] <janrinok> If there is an ed around, can someone do the 2nd ed check on my stories please.
[15:40:08] <janrinok> michealpwalls: hi how's things?
[15:40:07] <crutchy> g'day
[15:39:43] <michealpwalls> 'morning :)
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[15:29:39] <Bytram|afk> danke schoen; ich auch, aber nor ein bischen
[15:29:03] <janrinok> very good - I speak German too
[15:28:31] <Bytram|afk> janrinok: our feet are stayin' (say that a few times fast) <grin>
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[15:27:30] <janrinok> cul8r
[15:27:15] <Bytram> I've got a few things to take care of; afk for a while
[15:26:36] <Bytram> janrinok: hth
[15:23:28] <janrinok> brilliant thx for that
[15:23:09] <xlefay> feb*
[15:23:07] <xlefay> 16 fe
[15:22:47] <Bytram> look at feb 16 entry: http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:23] <Bytram> janrinok: that was when it went alpha...
[15:22:02] <janrinok> thx - I'd got as far as the 21 Feb.
[15:21:54] <Bytram> quack!
[15:21:43] <Bytram> janrinok: I think it was Feb 12; take a look at: http://soylentnews.org
[15:21:28] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - 26 Asteroid Impacts from 2000-2013 - http://sylnt.us - DUCK!
[15:21:10] <xlefay> Bytram, _that_ could work; but I don't see how you're going to map functionality like that
[15:20:13] <Bytram> brb
[15:20:11] <Bytram> xlefay: can specify an --exclude-directories and --no-parent to help winnow it out.
[15:19:31] <janrinok> ok thx
[15:19:22] <Bytram> janrinok: I might have a record; give me a bit.
[15:19:09] <xlefay> Bytram, not sure if that'd any good. You'd probably still spider the "comment" links individual, you can probably exclude them.. but for functionality purpose, I don't think you're going to get that out of a wget
[15:18:43] <janrinok> Bytram: you have too much time on your hands....
[15:18:16] <janrinok> Before I plough back through the records, can anyone recall what day we went live to the world?
[15:18:07] <Bytram> what do you think?
[15:18:01] <Bytram> xlefay: I have an idea; it would be interesting to spider the site with wget, but only down to, say, 1 or 2 levels deep to see what links where; kind of get a site map and a rough draft of the functionality.
[15:17:13] <janrinok> OK, fair point
[15:17:05] <xlefay> most, sometimes he makes a little tl;dr too
[15:17:00] <crutchy> and that's not including the easter eggs
[15:16:53] <janrinok> most or all?
[15:16:44] <xlefay> janrinok, that's like most of what NCommander writes then?
[15:16:29] <xlefay> At least, they're working together.
[15:16:17] <Bytram> a feature is a bug with a useful side-effect.
[15:16:16] <janrinok> xlefay: That will be a very large document, so large that no-one will ever read it, and they all become bugs again.
[15:15:58] <Bytram> the scary part is how many of those "features" are interdependent on each other to keep the site running.
[15:15:24] <crutchy> hahaha
[15:15:17] <xlefay> Just wait till we document them, then they'll be features ;-)
[15:15:14] <janrinok> all you have to do is poke slash, and it generates some more random bugs.
[15:14:29] <janrinok> crutchy: there doesn't appear to be much chance of that happening in the near to mid future...
[15:14:24] <Bytram> I doubt we'll ever run out.
[15:14:21] <crutchy> though exec has its own share of bugs to keep me interested
[15:14:11] <Bytram> don't worry; little bugs have lesser bugs upon their backs to bite them; (apologies to ogden nash)
[15:13:53] <crutchy> life would be pretty boring if everything on soylent worked without a hitch
[15:13:26] <crutchy> bytram, bugs are fun... don't squash them all
[15:12:39] <crutchy> :-P
[15:12:39] * janrinok steps back for safety reasons
[15:12:20] <crutchy> milo
[15:12:18] <crutchy> i'm into the heavy shit
[15:12:15] <Bytram> LOL!
[15:12:13] <Bytram> crutchy: looks like two bugs for the price of one.
[15:12:08] <janrinok> tea has a wierd effect on you, doesn't it?
[15:12:05] <stderr> Only thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis much? :-/
[15:11:46] <crutchy> i miss you... as much as i miss cupcakes, which is thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis much!
[15:11:40] <stderr> janrinok: Hi.
[15:11:35] <Bytram> crutchy: not only does it point at "https://soylentnews.org/" but I am accessing the site WITHOUT https!
[15:11:20] <janrinok> back now - but nobody missed me... hi stderr
[15:11:06] <crutchy> you doin push ups?
[15:10:54] <Bytram> crutchy: ugh.
[15:10:24] <Bytram> crutchy: ewww.... let me check my links
[15:10:20] <crutchy> :-)
[15:10:17] * crutchy felt left out
[15:10:07] <crutchy> [23:09] <stderr> [15:09:05] <Bytram> yeah, it's 09:08AM (I looked at the wrong clock!)
[15:10:07] <stderr> Wh-wh-what?!
[15:09:57] <Bytram> stderr: now it's09:09 something (time keeps moving, yanno?)
[15:09:25] <stderr> [15:09:05] <Bytram> yeah, it's 09:08AM (I looked at the wrong clock!)
[15:09:23] <stderr> Still off... :-)
[15:09:06] <Bytram> yeah, it's 09:08AM (I looked at the wrong clock!)
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[15:08:49] <crutchy> the "Space-X Sues to Compete with Russia" story link goes to http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:34] <stderr> Bytram: Your clock is off... But anyway, he could have started the process before he went to bed.
[15:08:16] <crutchy> frojack has posted a comment, Re:Terrible linked article, in reply to your comment, Re:Terrible linked article, attached to Space-X Sues to Compete with Russia.
[15:08:01] <Bytram> crutchy: you back yet?
[15:07:35] <Bytram> stderr: or, maybe, it does not take long to process, but the person running the process is still in bed? it's currently 0915 Eastern Daylight Time here in the states.
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[15:03:13] <stderr> If it takes 9 hours to process, you're doing something wrong...
[15:01:57] <Bytram> brb
[15:01:47] <Bytram> oh. could be. may take time to process.
[15:01:14] <stderr> Wasn't the voting period over 9 hours ago?
[15:00:55] <Bytram> how's things?
[15:00:44] <stderr> Hi.
[15:00:29] <Bytram> stderr: g'morning.
[15:00:16] <Bytram> sg'morning!
[15:00:08] <Bytram> I don't have any news.
[14:59:59] <Bytram> i'm back.
[14:58:29] <stderr> So... Name voting... Any news?
[14:55:58] <Bytram> afk
[14:55:56] <Bytram> laundry calls; back in a couple minutes
[14:54:52] <Bytram> I have one that is along the lines of: "FOO has posted a comment, Re:BAR, in reply to your comment, BAR, attached to BAZ.
[14:54:04] <crutchy> hmm good idea. mind if i join you?
[14:53:59] <Bytram> janrinok: k
[14:53:52] <janrinok> time for a cup of tea - brb
[14:53:45] <Bytram> crutchy: your msg is one of the "Reply to "foo" by bar" ??
[14:52:43] <Bytram> crutchy: hold on... I have an idea. I think I have a msg waiting for me that I can look at... brb
[14:52:19] <crutchy> sent by SoylentNews Message System on Sunday April 27, @03:38AM
[14:52:18] <crutchy> hmm shouldn't be
[14:52:02] <crutchy> bytram: yeah this message is one of those 3 link ones
[14:52:02] <janrinok> it is an ex-message, it has shuffled off its mortal coil
[14:51:24] <crutchy> doesn't matter. just thought i'd put it out there in case anyone else comes across it
[14:51:14] <xlefay> but yes, they are stored in the mysweal db
[14:51:01] <crutchy> oh
[14:50:51] <xlefay> mysweal
[14:50:47] <crutchy> mysqeal
[14:50:46] <xlefay> myswl
[14:50:43] <Bytram> crutchy: I don't have access to the production table; only dev
[14:50:38] <xlefay> crutchy, I like that
[14:50:32] <crutchy> lol myswl
[14:50:23] <janrinok> Messages are only kept for 14 days
[14:50:22] <crutchy> is it in the myswl messages table?
[14:50:21] <Bytram> IIRC, there are something like 3 links in a message...
[14:50:21] <xlefay> sent*
[14:50:13] <Bytram> we ain't you, so it won't let us see it.
[14:50:10] <xlefay> That's because the message is send to crutchy ;-)
[14:49:51] <crutchy> ¿
[14:49:48] <janrinok> Agreed, I get message not found error on that link.
[14:49:32] <Bytram> tried it; won't let me see it: "This message was not found on the system. Either this message has been deleted or purged from the system, or it has been sent via another delivery method, or it was not sent to you, but to another user."
[14:49:23] <crutchy> hmm yeah i guess it should help since it has the message id
[14:48:55] <crutchy> dunno if it helps, but the address bar says http://soylentnews.org
[14:48:24] <crutchy> lol your wild rambling makes sense to me, so we must be in the same boat
[14:48:12] <Bytram> crutchy: do you have a link I can look at?
[14:48:02] <Bytram> i'm back
[14:47:34] <janrinok> I've test mine and they seem to be working. Unless the comment you are linked to is below you view threshold - but that is is wild rambling thought from a non-SN-programmer....
[14:46:16] <crutchy> i had messages re reply to a comment on the spacex lawsuit, but the story liunks to the main page (as AC)
[14:44:43] <janrinok> crutchy: which links in particular?
[14:44:42] <xlefay> bryan is the pipedot developer (I think)? ;-)
[14:42:22] <crutchy> doesn't bother me, just wondered
[14:42:09] <crutchy> is it just me or do the story links in message subjects don't work?
[14:24:43] <Bytram> janrinok: pm
[14:24:22] <SedBot> <Bytram> as to what happens with the information learned from here; I see it as going to the greater good of getting good quality news out to the world, and givng an opportunity to participate
[14:24:22] <Bytram> s/good news/good quality news/
[14:24:14] <janrinok> GS did the training, posted 1 story, and disappeared into the sunset...
[14:24:08] <Bytram> as to what happens with the information learned from here; I see it as going to the greater good of getting good news out to the world, and givng an opportunity to participate
[14:23:30] <janrinok> All speculation on my part - I'm not accusing anyone of anything yet.
[14:23:24] <Bytram> didn't know about the "move".
[14:22:55] <janrinok> But that was many months ago, I wasn't directly involved and things may have moved on now. I believe GungnirSniper is now one of their eds. I'm wondering if he came here to see how we did it, and is now looking to use our stories?
[14:22:50] <SedBot> <Bytram> My view is that there will be unavoidabe coincidences; where we both have something in the queue that comes out at about the same time. Yes, definitely; if we take a story from there, we acknowledge them just as we would ars technica or any other site; that would be fine by me.
[14:22:50] <Bytram> s/storfrom/story from/
[14:22:36] <Bytram> My view is that there will be unavoidabe coincidences; where we both have something in the queue that comes out at about the same time. Yes, definitely; if we take a storfrom there, we acknowledge them just as we would ars technica or any other site; that would be fine by me.
[14:21:32] <janrinok> So, not a copy/paste, but by all means use the source link to build a story sort of thing.
[14:20:48] <janrinok> I don't think we do take stories from them, but they said that they wouldn't be upset if we duplicated something that they were also pushing out.
[14:20:06] <janrinok> 'without permission' is the magic phrase. In the very early days there was a verbal(?) agreement to cooperate but I'm not sure to what extent.
[14:19:43] <Bytram> we should strive to stand on our own.
[14:19:27] <Bytram> good
[14:19:20] <Bytram> janrinok: my recollection, from what I last saw, is that in-as-much-as-possible, we should not be intentionally grabbing stories from the other sites.
[14:19:15] <janrinok> Understood - I wasn't going to start pestering him with requests and queries.
[14:18:49] <Bytram> janrinok: he is back, but still recovering from his loss.
[14:18:32] <janrinok> I 'think' we have an agreement to share stories - but I'm not at all certain on that.
[14:18:02] * Bytram wonders if it's the *real* pipedot or an *imaginary* one; things can be so, umm, complex!
[14:18:00] <janrinok> Good UID!
[14:17:46] <janrinok> But there are various places (on dev) where the limit appears to be 85 characters. Now I know paulej72 is back I'll start investigating it a bit more closely.
[14:17:27] <Bytram> how about that one!
[14:17:20] <deadbeef> The current maximum UID is 4240, owned by pipedot
[14:17:20] <Bytram> !uid
[14:17:03] <Bytram> don't know where there is truncation going on.
[14:16:51] <janrinok> Yeah, I discovered that on dev, but couldn't get it to work anywhere else.
[14:16:45] <Bytram> the 100 chars are, IIRC, currently supported in the admin interface
[14:16:26] <Bytram> there's an update that has yet to roll out, but there is supposed to be up to 100 characters.
[14:16:12] <janrinok> OK he said?
[14:16:01] <Bytram> fyi, I chatted with paulj yesterday about story title lengths
[14:15:31] <janrinok> lol
[14:15:25] <Bytram> as a friend of mine often put it: "Probably a darn sight better than I think I am."
[14:15:12] <janrinok> good to hear, likewise here.
[14:15:03] <Bytram> doing well.
[14:14:44] <janrinok> Bytram: Hi, how's thins?
[14:14:43] <crutchy> except i like games where you get to do stuff
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[14:14:34] <Bytram|away> janrinok: hi there!
[14:14:28] <crutchy> yeah :-)
[14:14:22] <crutchy> just coding cos i want to. i'm not a professional programmer
[14:14:20] <janrinok> rofl - Another game!
[14:14:01] <janrinok> np, just curious. I wondered if you were 'at work' professionally on a Sunday, or coding because you wanted to.
[14:13:57] <crutchy> it's a proposed game
[14:13:22] <crutchy> yeah i guess, but it's on github
[14:13:09] <janrinok> that sounds like it is a bit of both....
[14:12:44] <crutchy> kinda one for soylent irc
[14:03:21] <janrinok> Is it a private project that you are working on or one for this site?
[14:00:32] <crutchy> true
[14:00:24] <janrinok> They never seem to have an intelligent response though - most unrewarding....
[13:59:49] <crutchy> hahaha yeah it is fun pissing off ACs
[13:58:55] <janrinok> Thanks - it depends on whose opinion you listen to. There are still enough ACs posting doom and gloom and 'why aren't we as good as the other site' comments. Those that do not post AC I check their own posting record and invariably find they have never submitted a story at all. I enjoy pointing this fact out publically to them. If it's no good - it's their fault.
[13:57:03] <crutchy> seems to be a nice stream of stories lately
[13:56:22] <crutchy> sounds good. hah not to worry my project is plugging away ok atm (touch wood). trying to solve a bug atm but i don't think will be a showstopper
[13:54:17] <janrinok> I can't help, and my help is usually the kiss of death to most projects, including my own! Good weekend so far, enjoying a relaxing time between editing wiki and stories.
[13:53:24] <crutchy> php
[13:53:22] <crutchy> how is your weekend so far?
[13:53:16] <janrinok> which language?
[13:53:01] <crutchy> yeah very quiet. i'm ok. just doing some coding
[13:52:37] <janrinok> good, and you - on this very quiet Sunday afternoon?
[13:52:18] <crutchy> how are you?
[13:52:11] <crutchy> hi janrinok
[13:50:58] <janrinok> hi crutchy
[13:48:50] <crutchy> fortune
[13:31:05] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Algorithm to Filter out Memes from Other Info - http://sylnt.us - Buzzword-Compliance
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[12:23:20] <prospectacle> a good evening to you all
[12:23:15] <prospectacle> clear
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[11:11:22] <crutchy> !stats
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[10:11:35] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Raiders of the Lost Carts Successful - http://sylnt.us - I'll-be-right-here.
[09:58:49] <exec> If everything is coming your way then you're in the wrong lane.
[09:58:48] <crutchy> fortune
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[07:44:05] <crutchy> good one -> "I'm-sure-I-parked-it-around-here-somewhere" dept
[07:44:01] <mattie_p> nice department for this one
[07:43:41] <crutchy> hahahahaha
[07:41:41] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - US Special Forces Develop Stealth Motorcycle - http://sylnt.us - I'm-sure-I-parked-it-around-here-somewhere
[07:41:09] <crutchy> :-)
[07:40:56] <mattie_p> yep, back in the saddle now
[07:40:50] <crutchy> all fixed/better now?
[07:40:42] <crutchy> that's no good
[07:40:28] <mattie_p> ok, I guess, I've been off the net for about two days due to network and computer issues, and some illness that didn't give me time to fix the others
[07:38:58] <crutchy> how's the mud?
[07:38:23] <mattie_p> hi crutchy!
[07:38:13] <crutchy> g'day mattie_p
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[05:51:18] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - How to Fix the Internet's Plumbing Problem - http://sylnt.us - Series-of-Tubes
[05:48:57] <cykros> nice, i got a sweet random gift encounter on idlerpg...took nearly 2 days off my level timer :-)
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[04:57:00] <chromas> Not that it's a bad thing. Arrays are like that internally, anyway :)
[04:54:30] <crutchy> bit more compact
[04:54:22] <crutchy> 1d works better for messaging
[04:52:06] <crutchy> oh yeah sorry that was from pathfind
[04:50:32] <chromas> But I notice your maps are stored 1d with some multiplication to get 2d, instead of a 2d array
[04:48:03] <crutchy> took me a while to not stuff that up
[04:47:42] <crutchy> ^indexing args are reversed from setlength
[04:47:19] <crutchy> DirectionMap[y, x] := 255;
[04:47:19] <crutchy> for x := 0 to MapWidth - 1 do
[04:47:19] <crutchy> for y := 0 to MapHeight - 1 do
[04:47:19] <crutchy> SetLength(DirectionMap, MapHeight, MapWidth);
[04:45:07] <chromas> or [x][y]
[04:44:53] <chromas> theArray[x, y]:= blah;
[04:44:14] <crutchy> indexing can be a bit confusing
[04:43:57] <crutchy> multidimensional dynamic arrays aren't that easy in delphi. have to use setlength
[04:43:25] <crutchy> well, sorta
[04:43:18] <crutchy> yeah
[04:43:13] <chromas> Arrays are easier in Pascal/Delphi
[04:43:04] <crutchy> the 1x1 loop was looking for S
[04:43:00] <chromas> I was just thinking water
[04:42:54] <chromas> Ocean, duh
[04:42:44] <chromas> Oh yeah, that's what the "o" would be
[04:42:36] <chromas> lol
[04:41:49] <crutchy> lol found the bug in the 1x1 thing... had the wrong char for ocean :-P
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[04:36:17] <crutchy> ooh i already got a good pathfinding algo too that i can port from delphi
[04:36:03] <crutchy> i think terrain/resources might make another layer cos i can use this map for pathfinding obstacle map
[04:35:24] <chromas> O stands for Water
[04:34:45] <crutchy> it was sooo deliberate too :-P
[04:34:34] <crutchy> hahahahaha
[04:34:22] * chromas thinks it's funny that the maps say "LOL" all over
[04:34:05] <crutchy> yeah definitely wanna fix the 1x1 lake thing
[04:33:46] <crutchy> can kinda get the idea: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:32:35] * crutchy hated 1x1 ocean tiles in civ2
[04:31:50] <chromas> Or springs. They're resources to fight over
[04:31:34] <chromas> It's okay. They're just wells
[04:30:03] <crutchy> :-(
[04:30:01] <crutchy> t seem to work
[04:29:56] <crutchy> hmm 1x1 lake filling doesn
[04:29:26] <crutchy> :-)
[04:29:24] <crutchy> np
[04:29:17] <SirFinkus> again, me later tonight
[04:29:07] <crutchy> (bigger and more landmasses, and reduced distance between)
[04:28:43] <crutchy> changed some params
[04:28:33] <crutchy> pushed again
[04:26:43] <crutchy> lol
[04:26:35] <SirFinkus> sounds like me later tonight
[04:26:33] <crutchy> might have to reduce the sparsity parameter
[04:26:12] <crutchy> got rid of the bucket shit
[04:26:07] <crutchy> chromas, try this: https://github.com
[04:24:23] <SirFinkus> I'm very pleased with myself for that one
[04:24:05] <SirFinkus> maybe I could wave at it
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[04:23:41] <chromas> Tell your hand "hello"
[04:23:20] <SirFinkus> it's date night, and the date is myself
[04:22:35] <SirFinkus> I got some fancy ass coffee ice cream too, gonna make a beer float
[04:20:43] <chromas> Mmm, cc cookies
[04:19:43] <SirFinkus> meatcam
[04:19:40] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
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[04:19:23] <Bytram> have a good night everyone!
[04:19:12] <Bytram> just had mine; now it's time for bed.
[04:19:12] <crutchy> yum
[04:19:08] <SirFinkus> I know you're all jealous as fuck
[04:18:58] <SirFinkus> dinner tonight
[04:18:55] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[04:16:35] <crutchy> sec
[04:16:21] <crutchy> you can prolly make it work isolated without too much trouble. just need local vars for $cols and $rows and get rid of the bucket ref
[04:14:59] <chromas> I just pasted your code into an editor and ran it. Didn't go so well. Need to checkout or pull or whatever your code
[04:14:34] <crutchy> can tweak some parameters to change the way it works
[04:14:17] <crutchy> when i tested the delphi version the landmasses didn't look too bad
[04:13:03] <crutchy> maybe *you* can do that bit :-P
[04:12:54] <crutchy> lol
[04:12:48] <crutchy> just working on some bucket message validation
[04:12:42] <chromas> You could get carried away and generate a topographical map so it has hills and mountains, then calculate precipitation and erosion to get lakes and stuff :-D
[04:11:36] <crutchy> still needs other terrain types etc
[04:10:45] <chromas> Nice
[04:09:42] <crutchy> translated it from a delphi program i developed a couple of years ago
[04:08:01] <crutchy> not the prettiest, but can be fixed up
[04:07:38] <crutchy> L for land, O for ocean
[04:07:11] <crutchy> chromas, we have a simple map generator algo... https://github.com
[04:03:28] <chromas> Yeah, the byline should be "Finnish him"
[04:02:24] <crutchy> isn't that the one that ms bought?
[04:00:54] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - The Last Day of Nokia - http://sylnt.us - another-one-bites-the-dust
[04:00:01] <chromas> First Bender, then Flexo, then Fry
[03:59:40] <chromas> There should be a backup named Flexo
[03:58:52] <chromas> He was the bot who was always eating grapes and getting rubbed with oil and stuff
[03:58:52] <paulej72> chromas: It was hedonismbot for a short time a long long time ago
[03:58:21] <chromas> "That answer wasn't in the video"
[03:58:18] <Bytram> hedonismbot rings a bell; I think I saw that before
[03:58:17] <chromas> "Ms. Bitters, why don't they take the money they spent on candy and prizes and use it to buy desks?"
[03:56:46] <chromas> Ha! That's exactly what I thought of
[03:56:28] <chromas> Not Futurama, but Adrienne Barbeaubot
[03:56:27] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[03:55:41] <crutchy> just like i miss cupcake
[03:55:37] <chromas> Was it ever Hedonismbot?
[03:55:31] <crutchy> i miss bender
[03:55:19] <chromas> That must be leftover from when deadbeef was named after Futurama robots
[03:55:13] <crutchy> bite my shiny chrome ass
[03:54:33] <chromas> Bite my shiny metal me
[03:54:33] <deadbeef> paulej72: Bite my shiny. metal. ass.
[03:54:33] <paulej72> !bite
[03:54:19] <paulej72> chromeasses
[03:53:52] <chromas> chromasses
[03:53:43] <chromas> All my clients don't seem to mind a name by itself. Hm
[03:53:41] <Bytram> be careful with the spelling there =)
[03:53:24] <crutchy> chromases
[03:53:11] <Bytram> that's funny, we are singular
[03:52:34] <chromas> I are plural
[03:52:12] <Bytram> one chroma plus one chroma makes two chromas
[03:51:46] <Bytram> THAT got my attention!
[03:51:31] <chromas> testing BytraM teste test
[03:51:17] <Bytram> no attention flag on your last msg
[03:51:00] <Bytram> need some words after the nick, I think
[03:48:00] <chromas> bYTRAM
[03:47:55] <chromas> highlight either way
[03:47:44] <chromas> For me it's not
[03:46:36] <Bytram> chromas: I wonder if it is case sensitive; try #2.
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[03:46:05] <Bytram> CHROMAS: I wonder if it is case sensitive?
[03:44:48] <Bytram> articles for sale, today's special is "the"
[03:44:23] <chromas> arti chokes, two for a dollar
[03:44:17] <Bytram> LOL!
[03:44:10] <chromas> I store my backups with the Fed. I just pass my _NSAKEY and they return the data I need
[03:43:52] <Bytram> or artichoke
[03:43:24] <Bytram> make it two, so he has a backup =)
[03:43:05] <Bytram> give that man an internet!
[03:43:00] <chromas> like ar and _NSAKEY
[03:42:54] <chromas> Neat. That way you don't get highlights when your name is part of a word
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[03:42:48] <Bytram> chromas hi there!
[03:42:41] <Bytram> hichromasbye
[03:42:35] <Bytram> has to be a blank-delimited nick
[03:42:16] <Bytram> chromas: no.
[03:41:45] <chromas> Does that highlight?
[03:41:28] <chromas> martyBytram:
[03:33:20] <Bytram> crutchy: g'day! (fyi if you use "Bytram" in your g'day, then it would blink my screen to let me know someone said soemthing to me.)
[03:31:06] <crutchy> or liberty central
[03:30:55] <crutchy> freedom central prolly wouldn't hurt that either
[03:30:41] <crutchy> yeah
[03:30:34] <chromas> Hi crutchy
[03:30:29] <chromas> and high cost-of-living hopefully
[03:30:13] <crutchy> g'day chromas :-)
[03:30:12] <chromas> Like computers and Internets and stuff, like South California without the pretentiousness
[03:30:03] <crutchy> g'day NCommander
[03:29:46] <crutchy> g'day marty
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[03:28:53] <crutchy> introduce electricity?
[03:28:24] <chromas> When you get to NH, you can start a tech boom there
[03:27:06] <NCommander> Teckla, Rochester, NY
[03:23:42] <crutchy> lol "autism and anti-vaccine advocacy group"
[03:16:20] <SirFinkus> J. B. Handley of the autism and anti-vaccine advocacy group Generation Rescue noted, "To our community, Andrew Wakefield is Nelson Mandela and Jesus Christ rolled up into one."
[03:16:19] <SirFinkus> "
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[03:07:06] <SirFinkus> guess not, no justice in the world
[03:05:56] <SirFinkus> is Andrew Wakefield in jail?
[03:03:21] <arti> y i no immunize
[03:02:59] <arti> lol measles outbreaks
[03:02:12] <arti> heh
[03:01:11] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com how tight is the cameraman's butthole at 3 second in
[03:00:29] <arti> nice
[03:00:25] <SirFinkus> probably 2 or 3 more powerful now
[03:00:13] <SirFinkus> I've had pretty bad luck lately, but I did get a ram upgrade
[02:59:16] * arti badumpsh.mod
[02:59:03] <chromas> I hope it doesn't give me an SQL injection
[02:59:00] <arti> maybe we can make a prison variant
[02:58:45] <chromas> And I can't do anything about it because that wouldn't be idle :)
[02:58:42] <arti> "you come across an HIV infected needle"
[02:58:28] <arti> apparently in the game you take whats given
[02:58:01] <chromas> I don't want to toss the level 26 coffee machine; I want to hack it onto my level 44 and have a zupercoffeemachine with Linux
[02:57:53] <SirFinkus> There once was a fellow named Sweeney, Who spilled gin all over his weenie. Not being uncouth, He added vermouth, And slipped his amour a martini.
[02:57:52] <SirFinkus> ➤ fortune -o
[02:54:53] <chromas> or is it ($channl)
[02:54:14] <chromas> switch $channel {}
[02:52:24] <crutchy> can either us an event or an alias. alias would prolly be better
[02:51:51] <crutchy> actually one way might be better
[02:50:58] <crutchy> there's prolly a couple of ways
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[02:50:21] <crutchy> yes
[02:49:50] <chromas> You could have it decide whether to -o based on the channel
[02:49:27] <chromas> lol
[02:48:48] <crutchy> a kind of "wtf! i had better delete -o" kind of doozie
[02:47:47] <crutchy> chromas, fortune -o threw up a doozie a while back
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[02:41:53] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - FTC as Blindly Optimistic as Anyone Else - http://sylnt.us - lets-throw-away-$19B
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[02:31:46] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - FTC As Blindly Optimistic As Anyone Else. - http://sylnt.us - lets-throw-away-$19B
[02:23:31] <SirFinkus> I hope soylent news hasn't been logging my pubis
[02:23:17] <arti> it's when your dog does its business
[02:23:08] <SirFinkus> what is pubic logging?
[02:22:30] <chromas> Well there's always ## or some place without pubic logging
[02:21:44] <chromas> At least, I have yet to be offended. I'm sure there's something, somewhere
[02:21:15] <arti> i probably could've typed it here but yeah
[02:20:42] <arti> my name is chromas, and doesn't offended by anything.
[02:19:41] * chromas isn't offended by anything
[02:19:35] <chromas> go for it
[02:19:23] <arti> i'll have to pm it to you
[02:19:18] <arti> this reminds me of a joke
[02:18:42] <arti> no
[02:18:36] <chromas> except Spielberg's not catholic
[02:18:21] <chromas> Must've been inspired by the local priesthood
[02:17:46] <arti> cannot unsee
[02:17:35] * chromas hasn't seen ET but notes that it appears to involve fingering a boy
[02:16:01] * chromas concurs
[02:15:50] * arti wtfs
[02:15:46] <arti> banana pineapple peanuts and curry
[02:15:38] * arti learns of euro pizza known as tropicana
[02:11:53] <arti> soudesuka
[02:10:57] <chromas> "It's the same on Earth"
[02:10:52] <chromas> "We own entire western hemisphere. It the best hemisphere"
[02:10:51] * arti continues eating the delcious bites
[02:10:43] <arti> man, squid farts are terrible
[02:10:24] <arti> which side is more awesome?
[02:10:13] <crutchy> it's Western Australia where i come from
[02:09:43] <crutchy> ah
[02:09:38] <arti> washington state
[02:09:32] <crutchy> what's WA?
[02:09:30] <arti> it was a dink town
[02:09:23] * arti drove through that town camping
[02:09:17] <chromas> Yeah
[02:09:09] <arti> i think it was filmed in WA
[02:09:01] <arti> https://farm6.staticflickr.com
[02:08:59] <chromas> tv show
[02:08:52] <chromas> There was a show called Northern Exposure set in AK
[02:08:17] <arti> well, unless you die from it
[02:08:13] <arti> i don't think anything gets exposed there
[02:08:03] <arti> X|
[02:08:01] <chromas> or is that Alaska?
[02:07:50] <chromas> Soylent Exposure
[02:07:06] <arti> "muffin top"
[02:05:42] <chromas> "Where soylent muffins run naked through the city"
[01:57:44] <crutchy> lol i was sorta close'ish
[01:57:15] * crutchy looks up new motto
[01:56:37] <crutchy> Try Hard or Live Dying!
[01:56:11] <crutchy> Die Hard or Live Trying!
[01:56:04] <chromas> Afternoon, crutchy ;-)
[01:55:42] <crutchy> mornin' Soylent
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[01:12:46] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - US Court Demands Jurisdiction in Other Countries - http://sylnt.us - no-jurisdiction-without-representation!-Pass-my-musket
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[00:06:32] * Teckla suspects NCommander doesn't mean Rochester, Minnesota!