#Soylent | Logs for 2014-04-24

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[23:58:05] <arti> "e-pinions represented as fact!"
[23:57:34] <chromas> "It's not a blog; it's an e-pinion"
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[23:31:01] <Blackmoore> let's brainstorm about this.
[23:30:40] <Blackmoore> mm.. empowerment
[23:30:21] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Russian Bloggers to be Required to Register - http://sylnt.us - not-in-russia
[23:25:55] <arti> not doing stuff unti you have to
[23:25:51] <arti> well i tend to like lazy evaluated languages
[23:25:32] <Cyprus> Nah, a lazy manager
[23:25:20] <arti> maybe a skateboarder came up with that
[23:25:06] <arti> there's truth to that, why do you think they tell you to "Push yourself!"
[23:24:37] <deadbeef> Added quote 152
[23:24:37] <Cyprus> !grab arti
[23:24:36] <Blackmoore> push right
[23:23:16] <arti> Just push hard enough
[23:23:03] <Blackmoore> derail presentation
[23:22:23] <arti> ^- the slogan on the cup
[23:21:57] <Cyprus> it's super effective
[23:21:41] <arti> hahaha
[23:21:33] <Blackmoore> use coffee
[23:21:22] <arti> A wild meeting appears.
[23:21:12] <Blackmoore> damn it.
[23:21:06] <arti> > Manipulate Software
[23:21:03] <stderr> You've been eaten by a grue.
[23:20:51] <arti> #@$@#$@#$%
[23:20:44] <arti> Do not know what flash is.
[23:20:35] <arti> > Install flash
[23:20:34] <stderr> You see a cubical wall.
[23:20:11] <arti> > Look north
[23:20:07] <arti> you check your inventory: "pocket lint. some breath mints. and a paperclip."
[23:19:57] <arti> it's like an adventure game
[23:19:46] <Blackmoore> anyway. i dont want to draw attention to me. bad enough i have 3 webbrowsers/ flash all so i can do my job with the lousy tools provided.
[23:19:43] <arti> that is all
[23:18:32] <arti> \o/ listen all ye faithful
[23:18:14] <Blackmoore> my crowd is confused
[23:18:01] <Blackmoore> o/ o?
[23:17:46] <arti> o> o/ fight the power
[23:17:37] <arti> o/ show the man
[23:17:30] <Blackmoore> well, I have local admin. I'm just not supposed to.
[23:17:27] <arti> go for the wings, stay for the...
[23:17:19] <arti> Blackmoore: i recommend a gentlemen's club after work.
[23:17:00] <arti> this trivia will not save your life one day.
[23:17:00] <Blackmoore> that's why i would like some sweet sweet release.
[23:16:58] <stderr> Blackmoore: You just told us you reinstalled flash and now you're trying to tell us you can't install software? Something doesn't add up.
[23:16:42] <Blackmoore> I didnt know that. but I can understand the metaphore
[23:16:03] <arti> Blackmoore: did you know that the cubes are where perps go in the dredd universe for incarceration
[23:15:33] <arti> "in the future, you'll be doing all this, without the proprietary client, you'll just login to our website."
[23:15:26] <Blackmoore> I'm working in a cube. I can't install software on this network.
[23:15:15] <arti> facebook is totally aol X
[23:12:45] <stderr> You don't have to use a browser to use facebooks chat thingie.
[23:11:41] * arti hides
[23:11:36] <arti> stderr: you mean like facebook?
[23:11:24] <arti> bummer that you have to restart
[23:11:22] <stderr> Consider using a real IRC client?
[23:11:18] <arti> meh
[23:09:58] <Blackmoore> *shrug*
[23:09:49] <Blackmoore> reinstall flash, restart FF, lose all open pages..
[23:08:38] <arti> playing which cable goes where?
[23:07:47] <Blackmoore> hmph. well. that was a thing.
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[23:05:56] <arti> hah
[23:00:56] <Blackmoore> A chineese knock-off orbital laser - that was featured on "Pimp-my-laser cannon"?
[22:58:26] <arti> what if it was to faux rolex quality
[22:57:30] <Blackmoore> a chineese knock-off orbital laser?
[22:56:54] <arti> i think you can get a used one somewhere
[22:56:45] <Blackmoore> anyone have an orbital laser?
[22:56:43] <arti> i can shoot you with it
[22:56:39] <arti> how about this?
[22:56:37] * arti prepares a needle
[22:56:30] <Blackmoore> damnit
[22:56:26] <arti> this one shoots banana pies
[22:56:23] <Blackmoore> that should do.
[22:56:16] * arti prepares the cannon
[22:56:08] <arti> with what?
[22:55:54] <Blackmoore> *somebody please shoot me.*
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[21:41:59] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Fewer College Students Use Tablets - http://sylnt.us - a-keyboard-would-be-useful
[21:40:53] <xlefay> *quickly closes this stuff*
[21:40:49] <xlefay> ugh I need to do some work
[21:40:16] <xlefay> "I'll be dead soon, but that'll be a relief" LOL
[21:39:49] <xlefay> auch
[21:39:43] <Cyprus> no audio at my desk, youtube blocked, etc
[21:39:25] <xlefay> 'could' why can't you?
[21:39:04] <xlefay> hahaha you should
[21:38:54] <Cyprus> heh now you're making me wish i could watch those right now
[21:38:39] <xlefay> nograb..
[21:38:30] <xlefay> "sex doll" haha, I always enjoy this "episode"
[21:37:52] <xlefay> haha
[21:37:41] <Cyprus> im up to $280/hr
[21:37:36] <Cyprus> my rate goes up every time
[21:37:25] <xlefay> Yeah, that makes sense
[21:37:19] <Cyprus> every now and then they want me to consult on some security breach
[21:37:11] <xlefay> That line, always makes me chuckle
[21:37:02] <xlefay> /dev/null
[21:36:54] <Cyprus> that was my final straw so i just quit
[21:36:45] <Cyprus> yeah, hes also a crazy libretarian
[21:36:41] <xlefay> rofl
[21:36:31] <xlefay> Wait.. what, are some people still living in <insert <10 years ago>
[21:36:26] <Cyprus> "why are you wanting to go to innodb, its slower than myisam"
[21:36:10] <Cyprus> "i heard postgres is slower, so we arent using it"
[21:35:19] <xlefay> LOL
[21:35:11] <xlefay> *local* backup strategy.. I do backup my actual server ;-)
[21:35:02] <Cyprus> "but.. its faster!"
[21:34:41] <Cyprus> its why i finally had to quit my last job, i couldn't stand trying to explain why transactions matter or why nosql is fing stupid
[21:34:41] <xlefay> Because why care for your data? (no, don't involve my backup strategy in this :P)
[21:34:17] <Cyprus> non acid people always drive me crazy
[21:33:49] <xlefay> It's epic
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[21:33:29] <Cyprus> its classic
[21:33:19] <xlefay> oh.. lol, I've seen that one already
[21:33:01] <xlefay> I've heard that term before though, associated with mongodb though
[21:33:00] <Cyprus> xlefay: i think this might be it, cant tell since no audio at my desk https://www.youtube.com
[21:32:40] <xlefay> I'm not looking.. lol
[21:32:01] <Cyprus> its great =)
[21:31:41] <xlefay> Cyprus, you've effective scared me enough not to ever search for that..
[21:31:37] <Blackmoore> If $searchstring$ != "answer in $random number of attempts% return "f' it!"
[21:31:09] <Cyprus> xlefay: nah, there's worse: see "webscale"
[21:30:38] <Blackmoore> running in a random number of threads!
[21:30:32] <Cyprus> friends don't let friends ignore basic key settings...
[21:30:23] <Blackmoore> random queries!
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[21:22:37] <michealpwalls> Fuck it. Did it in multiple queries :)
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[21:00:28] <xlefay> just install PostgreSQL and pretend it's MySQL (although, that's the worst insult for any DB..)
[21:00:01] <michealpwalls> LMAO it's not my choice :(
[20:59:57] <michealpwalls> MySQL v5.1
[20:59:44] <xlefay> Save thyself, switch to PostgreSQL while you can!
[20:59:33] <michealpwalls> Yea
[20:59:24] <xlefay> but you're using MySQL yea?
[20:59:07] <michealpwalls> *thinks*
[20:59:02] <xlefay> michealpwalls, UNIQUE is a field setting
[20:58:58] <michealpwalls> LMAO iunno, I'm a noob :(
[20:58:52] <xlefay> Ugh.. why are you even using DISTINCT?
[20:58:51] <michealpwalls> Lemme try
[20:58:50] <michealpwalls> Ohh, UNIQUE!
[20:58:47] <michealpwalls> Why is this duplicating like ~4 times? I tried DISTINCT
[20:58:37] <xlefay> You've never heard of, 'UNIQUE'?
[20:58:33] <michealpwalls> http://pastebin.com
[20:58:30] <xlefay> MySQL?
[20:57:42] <michealpwalls> Duplicate records. SQL needs a fucking knife in the eye!
[20:57:33] <michealpwalls> Gah!
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[20:44:26] <Cyprus> running the diesel to genset and electric motors
[20:43:44] <Cyprus> mostly its an efficiency thing
[20:41:13] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Uncovering Hidden Processing Power - http://sylnt.us - page-processing-patch-provides-performance-plus-power-perks
[20:40:39] <Blackmoore> but i'm no nautical engineer
[20:40:15] <Blackmoore> us trains do - I think that they go engine to transmision on a ship to save space
[20:39:10] <SirFinkus> from wikipedia
[20:39:07] <Blackmoore> Teckla: you are correct.
[20:39:04] <SirFinkus> "This kind of power transmission is used on railways by diesel electric locomotives and diesel electric multiple units, as electric motors are able to supply full torque at 0 RPM. Diesel-electric systems are also used in submarines and surface ships and some land vehicles"
[20:37:59] <Teckla> I ass-u-me-d it was for efficiency's sake.
[20:37:54] <SirFinkus> but that's just a guess
[20:37:42] <Teckla> Oh :(
[20:37:36] <SirFinkus> I think that's more of a torque thing so that they can get moving
[20:37:01] <Teckla> I think most diesel trains in the U.S. actually have electric motors that are powered by diesel engines that generate electric current. I wonder if the same could be sensible for cargo ships.
[20:36:31] <Teckla> Good point
[20:35:19] <Blackmoore> yep. they have - but you get into the doldrums, and now you need motive power. so sails are good, just not enough alone.
[20:30:48] <Teckla> Blackmoore: I think some cargo ships have been experimenting with sails (with success!)
[20:30:37] <Woods> Woo, how about that power outage.
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[20:23:29] <Blackmoore> but the cost of the crap those ships can run on is relitivly low. they may not be able to run on it in US waters. but in international those ship use thae nasty crap that was too lousy to process
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[20:21:39] <Blackmoore> yeah. if i was a shipping company I'd be dumping money into making a solar/electric cargo ship.
[20:19:24] <Teckla> Blackmoore: My guess is the only thing that will stop some of the more ridiculous aspects of globalization is: oil prices go up -> shipping costs go up -> local prices thus become more competitive -> more use of local resources
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[20:02:02] <Blackmoore> and I can show you a magor overpass made with Japanese steel just a few mile north of Bethlehem steel
[19:57:17] <kobach> oh wait
[19:57:14] <kobach> just ask bethlehem steel
[19:55:10] <kobach> Blackmoore: a lot of purely financial reasons are dumb
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[19:53:46] <Blackmoore> (and yes. i think that's very dumb)
[19:53:25] <Blackmoore> Popeidol: you think it would be. but i can show you numbers that the majority of steel in the US is imported, and it's been that way since the 80's
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[19:50:29] <kobach> idiots
[19:50:28] <kobach> rofl
[19:50:00] <Popeidol> or at least you could if our states had the same damn railway line widths
[19:49:31] <Popeidol> if you produce them on the same continent, you can transport them by rail
[19:49:31] <kobach> not like australia is short of iron ore
[19:49:21] <kobach> so cheaper to build in country
[19:49:14] <kobach> shipping is expensive for those theyre not light
[19:48:56] <Popeidol> where our rail == rail in my state, and 'in the country' == in a different state
[19:48:50] <kobach> most likely
[19:48:42] <Popeidol> I think all our rail is produced in the country here
[19:44:21] <kobach> i dont think the japanese steel industry was very strong in the late 1800s/early 1900s
[19:44:00] <kobach> Blackmoore: im pretty sure they were made here, 100 years ago
[19:43:33] <kobach> hi janrinok !
[19:43:33] <Blackmoore> I'm pretty sure the US ones are made in Japan.
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[19:43:12] <kobach> might have changd by now
[19:43:11] <Blackmoore> no, the steel is still pretty costly.
[19:43:08] <kobach> they're all just reused
[19:43:01] <kobach> here anyway
[19:42:57] <kobach> they actually havent made any since the 40s
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[19:42:32] <Popeidol> it's surprisingly hard to buy working rail axles on the cheap
[19:42:09] <Popeidol> I've always wanted to build one of those hand-powered trains, and that'd be a great chance
[19:41:59] <Blackmoore> but there is no way i can build a calculator, let alone a computer
[19:41:32] <Blackmoore> push me back to human/animal labor only, and i can still make tools that can help me make tools.
[19:40:26] <Blackmoore> given time I can build a low presure steam engine, and use that to mill wood, lathe metal
[19:40:23] <kobach> lol
[19:39:17] <Blackmoore> I have a ton of books on metalworking and early electrical stuff.
[19:38:51] <Blackmoore> and who survives?
[19:38:32] <Blackmoore> i guess the real question is how far back (on a tech level" are you considering us to be?
[19:37:32] <Blackmoore> after about a year or so you might be able to go in and reclaim
[19:37:06] <Blackmoore> Well the cities, and large susburrbs would be really nasty spots just after the failure. you'd have a lot of dead, due to disease and famine
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[19:03:55] <TK> Well yeah, our gods prohibit such luxuries...except for the ruling class, that is.
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[18:57:44] <Popeidol> with their fancy running water and electric lights
[18:57:33] <Popeidol> and then we could declare war on the compounds
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[18:55:31] <TK> We'd get to the bronze age in a matter of no time
[18:55:17] <TK> There would be an abundance of copper in the collapsed world
[18:54:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> huh...it didn't respond to me before.
[18:54:33] <TK> heh
[18:54:33] <SedBot> <AndyTheAbsurd> does that thing only respond to people with mode +v?
[18:54:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> s/SedBot/that thing/
[18:54:29] * SedBot is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[18:54:29] <deadbeef> karma - sedbot: 6
[18:54:29] <TK> Sedbot--
[18:54:19] * SedBot is a 53-line awk script, https://github.com
[18:54:19] <deadbeef> karma - sedbot: 7
[18:54:19] <TK> Sedbot--
[18:54:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> does SedBot only respond to people with mode +v?
[18:54:06] <TK> :-p
[18:53:59] <TK> I don't think he was talking to you
[18:53:26] <Landon> damn right I did, SedBot
[18:53:20] <SedBot> Londyn, did you know there's THREE slashes in a proper s/// command?
[18:53:20] <Landon> s/able/care
[18:52:55] <Popeidol> there'd be more textbook than people who're able to read them.
[18:52:42] <Popeidol> at the moment there's plenty of them around
[18:52:00] <TK> that and electrical engineering textbooks
[18:51:44] <TK> Power inverters would be the most crucial pre-collapse resource
[18:51:16] <Landon> so I can still read my ebooks
[18:51:13] <Landon> as long as you can build me a usb charger
[18:51:08] <TK> If you aren't going to add to the conversation...
[18:51:02] <deadbeef> karma - deadbeef: -2
[18:51:01] <TK> deadbeef--
[18:50:56] <TK> I don't think any group of survivalists would be able to generate enough power to revitalize a suburb
[18:50:50] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - OpenSSL to Get Funding - http://sylnt.us
[18:49:49] <Popeidol> really, the future always ends up looking like mad max II
[18:49:05] <Popeidol> just because you have a compound full of engineers who can smelt and build and wire does not mean you can just hook up a suburb to power again
[18:48:57] <TK> You would be able to make new water wheels and windmills
[18:48:27] <Popeidol> but whether they'd be able to transfer that to the general population is another matter completely
[18:48:07] <TK> damn hippies and their solar panels
[18:47:57] <Popeidol> It's pretty much guaranteed that pockets of civilisation would survive
[18:47:54] <TK> until the weather and termites get them
[18:47:43] <TK> hardcopies would probably be fine
[18:47:24] <TK> whatever survies $societycollapsingevent
[18:47:03] <Popeidol> TK: do we have all our existing literature?
[18:47:02] <TK> But you've still got to eat
[18:46:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> and you can cut (most) things with hand tools given enough time.
[18:46:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> because mining gets into some pretty sophisticated stuff
[18:46:28] <TK> I suppose
[18:46:20] <Popeidol> I'm assuming you're talking about a 'transformers are all broken, but the power lines are still technically fine' situation
[18:46:05] <TK> or cut them
[18:46:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> in some ways, the metals things makes it easier rather than harder to rebuild
[18:46:02] <TK> yes, but you have to melt them down to make new stuff
[18:45:48] <Popeidol> well, the materials themselves would still exist where we left them right?
[18:45:45] <TK> Easily exploitable petrochemicals are gone
[18:45:29] <TK> We've already mined most, if not all of the surface metals
[18:45:11] <TK> Given enough time, could we rebuild society?
[18:45:00] <TK> Let's say society collapses, and we have to start from scratch. The ruins of our buildings are still there, but the power/water/gas infrastructure is down
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[18:42:32] <kobach> bbiab
[18:41:42] <Popeidol> up until then I thought it was a mary poppins joke
[18:41:31] <Bytram> merci!
[18:41:29] <Popeidol> I recently got a letter from a bank official called 'banks'
[18:41:22] <xlefay> If I can't have the "kobach you take that back" line.. that one will have to suffice. :~/
[18:41:16] <kobach> Bytram: have fun
[18:41:10] <deadbeef> karma - tk: 3
[18:41:10] <Popeidol> TK++
[18:41:08] <Bytram> need to fix a story. back in a while
[18:41:08] <kobach> loool
[18:41:03] <deadbeef> Added quote 151
[18:41:03] <xlefay> !grab TK
[18:40:55] <TK> popeidol: I never realized how ugly those children were
[18:40:53] <kobach> XD
[18:40:50] <kobach> point proven
[18:40:42] <Popeidol> THAT IS THE WOMAN I LOVE
[18:40:39] <Popeidol> KOBACH YOU TAKE THAT BACK
[18:40:33] <xlefay> It's extremely annoying. *puts music louder* ;-)
[18:40:32] <Bytram> yup, always enjoyed "The Sound of Music"
[18:40:28] <kobach> mary poppins was probably a whore
[18:40:10] <Popeidol> if you happen to be an affecionado
[18:40:02] <Popeidol> Bytram: it's 'let's go fly a kite' from mary poppins
[18:39:51] <kobach> oh my
[18:39:42] <xlefay> Oh my god.. an idiot with a car with speakers and crap, is driving and shouting through the streets :o
[18:39:37] <Bytram> cash flow
[18:39:37] <kobach> its 2014 everybody should have magic internet from satellites
[18:39:25] <kobach> well why not
[18:39:16] <Bytram> thanks, but I don't have the bandwidth to do videos. :/
[18:38:44] <Popeidol> Bytram: https://www.youtube.com
[18:38:40] <kobach> LOL
[18:38:35] <xlefay> Bytram, go fly a kite
[18:38:33] <kobach> lol
[18:38:18] * Bytram just has to find someone to tell "go fly a kite"! =)
[18:38:05] <Bytram> yeh, we're averaging about 30+ mph here.
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[18:37:43] <kobach> stahp
[18:37:38] <kobach> oh god the wind
[18:37:38] <mrcoolbp> actually it's strikingly windy
[18:37:26] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: well, I hope you have a great day! Hope it's not so windy for you there as here!!
[18:36:57] <Bytram> I'm still learnng my way around editing stories, but am having some n as I make and learn from mistakes. =)
[18:36:55] <kobach> i c
[18:36:50] <mrcoolbp> kobach, changes all the time
[18:36:45] <mrcoolbp> hey bytram, as usual I'm on my way out, just checking in before work
[18:36:43] <kobach> hi Bytram
[18:36:30] <kobach> what time do you usually leave?
[18:36:23] <kobach> yes i see
[18:36:22] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: Hey there! Good to "see" you!!!!!!
[18:36:17] <mrcoolbp> kobach, my hours are cray-zee
[18:36:03] <kobach> ive already been and come home lol
[18:35:55] <kobach> early?
[18:35:48] <xlefay> mrcoolbp, alrighty, take care man
[18:34:42] <mrcoolbp> meh, gonna take a shower and go to work early today methinks
[18:26:56] <kobach> rofl
[18:26:49] <xlefay> oh my, kobach lol
[18:26:41] <xlefay> LOL
[18:26:22] <mrcoolbp> kobach: too soon.
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[18:26:04] <kobach> thinking about building an email interface for an irc bot
[18:25:47] <kobach> same
[18:25:45] <mrcoolbp> you?
[18:25:43] <mrcoolbp> tired
[18:25:39] <kobach> sup
[18:25:33] <mrcoolbp> ehhya?
[18:25:17] <kobach> mrcoolpb
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[18:24:39] <SirFinkus> wait, wrong one, I'm sure there's one in hd
[18:23:50] <SirFinkus> commentary by engineers
[18:23:28] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[18:23:26] <SirFinkus> speaking of rockets, here are some neat videos of launch cams at shuttle launches
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[17:59:28] <Blackmoore> One paper ran a simulation of water droplets hitting a surface at 500 m/s (about Mach 1.5), and found that the water sprayed out from the point of contact at over 6000 m/s—Mach 18.[1]
[17:59:06] <Blackmoore> i think i want to launch rockets with this http://what-if.xkcd.com
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[17:42:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yup, I'm less absurd over there (usually).
[17:41:33] <Landon> I've rubbed some brain cells, and assume you're andy
[17:40:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> apparently my irssi config files got updated properly but my brain didn't.
[17:40:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> It got swapped a while back because Sean forgot to pay the registration and it took him a few weeks to get back
[17:39:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> s/org/net/
[17:39:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> uhhh....maybe. Lemme check.
[17:37:50] <Landon> is that server right?
[17:37:23] <Landon> whaaaaaaaaaaaat
[17:33:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> Also, if you're a fan, come join the First Saturday chats with Larry Niven! irc.larryniven.org #knownspace First Saturday of every month.
[17:32:41] <deadbeef> karma - landon: 16
[17:32:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> Landon++
[17:32:24] <Landon> we will get that much closer to attacking the Fithp!
[17:32:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> (I knew that without looking at TFS, too!)
[17:31:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> Project Orion!
[17:30:49] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Nuclear Explosion Powered Spaceships - http://sylnt.us - more-explosions-is-more-better
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[16:56:45] <xlefay> haha :P
[16:56:23] <crutchy> i started there
[16:55:14] <xlefay> So is people linking to certain voyager youtube links.. :P
[16:54:19] <crutchy> google is evil
[16:54:05] <xlefay> haha
[16:53:54] <crutchy> i got an idea, but i've been... err... . distracted by youtube :-P
[16:52:43] <xlefay> hows the anti-chromas-recursion protection going?
[16:50:46] <xlefay> crutchy, pretty good
[16:50:43] <xlefay> Teckla, heh, don't worry about it, in the future, you're house/workplace will simply keep you confined until you met your quota!
[16:50:33] <crutchy> xlefay, how's that database stuff goin?
[16:50:19] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - MSN Messenger Vs AIM Chat Wars - http://sylnt.us - rofl-lol-bbq
[16:49:58] <Teckla> crutchy: heh
[16:49:55] * Teckla forces himself back to work for now!
[16:49:53] <crutchy> :-P
[16:49:52] <crutchy> just as long as you know that it will kill you
[16:49:33] <Teckla> crutchy: All great ideas, thanks for expanding my imagination on the issue, now I'm actually kind of excited about the technology
[16:49:22] <crutchy> GoogleThoughts(TM)
[16:49:11] * Teckla better get back to work now ;)
[16:49:09] <crutchy> google thoughts
[16:48:39] <Teckla> crutchy: haha oh man i'm not sure how i should feel that multiple of us came up with that idea at the same time
[16:48:29] <deadbeef> Added quote 150
[16:48:29] <xlefay> !grab Teckla
[16:48:21] <crutchy> hahahaha
[16:48:12] <xlefay> LOL
[16:48:09] <Teckla> "Good morning, Mr. Smith. Please settle in while I drive you to work. I see your wife is with you. Hello, Mrs. Smith. Mr. Smith, would you like to continue viewing gay amputee porn like you were last night?"
[16:47:48] <crutchy> lol i can just imagine... family gets in the car to go on a trip and husband authenticates. cars goes vroom straight to the porn shop :-P
[16:47:42] <xlefay> crutchy, no no no, "we don't want to spy on you.. but we can't help that your car sends us all your information."
[16:46:42] <crutchy> "we don't just spy on you... we also know where you want to go in advance!"
[16:46:30] <Teckla> xlefay: Oh man, I would love that. My commute is currently long and pointless
[16:46:12] <crutchy> GoogleCar
[16:46:08] <Blackmoore> or move the important information UP so you dont have to take your eyes off the road
[16:46:03] <xlefay> Teckla, but, don't you worry, your car will drive for you!
[16:45:58] <Teckla> haha, oh god no :)
[16:45:50] <crutchy> or splash youtube ads all over your windscreen in the middle of rush hour traffic :-P
[16:45:50] <xlefay> LOL
[16:45:27] <Teckla> crutchy: Oh, great idea -- on a car window, it could augment night vision, etc.
[16:44:59] * Teckla chuckles :)
[16:44:52] <crutchy> also... HUDs in cars etc
[16:44:42] <xlefay> (j/k)
[16:44:40] <xlefay> http://www.thelonelyd12.com
[16:44:16] <xlefay> :o
[16:44:05] <Teckla> Okay, thank you; you've convinced me to be cautiously optimistic about possible use cases ;)
[16:44:02] <crutchy> (the newer ones)
[16:43:49] <crutchy> with touch technology might even have some star trek type consoles
[16:43:22] <Teckla> crutchy: Attached to cube walls in office buildings might be nice: no desk space taken, and the display could be nice and large
[16:43:09] <Blackmoore> yup.
[16:43:05] <crutchy> marketeers will grab it
[16:42:55] <crutchy> that's what will take off first i think
[16:42:48] <crutchy> lol
[16:42:42] <Blackmoore> and with our immersive advertizing - those businesses can tell you aboput specials and discounts INREAL TIME
[16:42:39] <crutchy> or that :-)
[16:42:29] <Teckla> crutchy: Stuck to a wall might be nice for rooms without exterior windows, you could display an actual feed of the outside
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[16:42:24] <crutchy> but they also kinda stick out like dogs balls
[16:42:14] <crutchy> there are projectors true
[16:42:00] <Blackmoore> transparent? well we've got an APp for that - it uses your camera to identify the buildings and superimpose information from the web right ther in real space
[16:41:53] <Teckla> Well, I'm sure there will be some corporate usages, I'm more wondering from a consumer POV.
[16:41:52] <crutchy> but a transparent screen on a wall would look nicer
[16:41:41] <crutchy> big black tv screens kinda stick out like big fat hairy dogs balls
[16:41:28] <Teckla> Blackmoore: Yep, and be more suspectible to puncture damage and over-bending damage
[16:41:11] <crutchy> or to a wall so that it looks like just a wall
[16:41:05] <Blackmoore> Flexible - well this is great because it is less likely to take shock damage
[16:41:05] <Teckla> The only thing I can think of is your smartphone could unroll a much larger display, though I'm not that imaginative.
[16:40:56] <crutchy> screens that you stick to a window
[16:40:35] <crutchy> screens bent around curved walls
[16:40:16] <crutchy> transparent flashy screens for some serious eye hurt
[16:40:02] <Teckla> But what use cases is your prediction based on?
[16:40:01] <crutchy> maybe with advertising/marketing first
[16:39:47] <crutchy> seriously... who knows, but my prediction is that it will take off
[16:39:17] <crutchy> isn't that why everyone buys new shit
[16:39:17] <Teckla> crutchy: Okay, two non-answers, that's fine, I'll remain skeptical :)
[16:39:06] <crutchy> :-P
[16:39:00] <crutchy> because everyone will think you're awesome
[16:38:36] <Teckla> Sell it to me like you're the salesperson and I'm the consumer; I'm really quite curious what the use case is for typical consumers.
[16:38:09] <crutchy> why does anyone need more than 512kb of memory?
[16:37:44] <Teckla> Allow me to play the skeptic for a moment; what's the big value of flexible transparent screens?
[16:36:41] <crutchy> as much as samsung is gunna wipe the floor with their flexible transparent screens, i do like this idea: https://www.youtube.com
[16:34:22] <crutchy> especially if it runs on windows 98
[16:34:01] <prospectacle> the caradassians might be able to detect it, even through the cloak.
[16:33:48] <prospectacle> uh oh the plasma conduit damage has cause a slight neutrino leak in the port nacell.
[16:32:06] <prospectacle> just looking at some now, "samsung galaxy beam" appears to have a projector built in. Pretty cool
[16:28:31] <Blackmoore> at least now they do make them small enough to carry
[16:25:57] <prospectacle> yes projectors need to auto-detect the output to adjust their angle. That would be something.
[16:25:32] <Landon> where I don't have to angle the phone just riiiight
[16:25:24] <prospectacle> shouldn't be too hard, just make a flexible, paper thin lcd
[16:25:22] <Landon> or a magic projector
[16:25:20] <Landon> heh
[16:25:11] <prospectacle> I guess we need phone with an enlargeable roll-out screen.
[16:24:32] <prospectacle> yeah i agree. For most quick-check things, a phone is fine
[16:24:12] <Landon> no room in the kitchen
[16:24:07] <Landon> laptops... are available, but cumbersome
[16:24:00] <Landon> phones are better for quick weather lookup with google now
[16:23:58] <prospectacle> makes sense
[16:23:53] <Landon> we don't really use it as a general surfing machine
[16:23:49] <Landon> recipes and stuff
[16:22:06] <SedBot> <prospectacle> Like for recipes and stuff, or just when you can't be bothered leaving the room to use a computer?
[16:22:06] <prospectacle> s/comptuer in it/computer/
[16:21:57] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - If Spacetime Were a Fluid - http://sylnt.us - never-get-it-on-you
[16:21:29] <prospectacle> Like for recipes and stuff, or just when you can't be bothered leaving the room to use a comptuer in it?
[16:20:57] <Landon> and the tablet gets used in the kitchen
[16:20:51] <Landon> scrolling up a bit further, I have all 3
[16:20:39] <prospectacle> Landon, i have an old one of those. Battery life is good, but it's only good for reading and nothing else (which is fine as far as it goes).
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[16:20:12] <Landon> prospectacle: have you looked into eink readers?
[16:19:54] <Blackmoore> the phone is a phone. the screen is too damn small to read on.
[16:19:29] <Blackmoore> but she seems to be ok with it
[16:19:09] <Blackmoore> I cant stand the keyboard or the trackpad
[16:19:09] <prospectacle> yeah, laptop could be better. I think I'll get a detachable tablet/laptop hybrid next time I need something new
[16:18:48] <Blackmoore> It tends to get used a a music player, or as the camping computer
[16:18:17] <Blackmoore> The laptop is useful - but not really as portable as you'd want it to be.
[16:18:13] <prospectacle> I mostly read the old fashioned kinds of books
[16:17:28] <prospectacle> Blackmoore, I can see how it would be a better reader than phone or laptop
[16:17:27] <crutchy> angry birds looks nice on it. i have fat fingers on a phone
[16:17:13] <mechanicjay> I actually, find my Thinkpad X61 convertible tablet to be the most useful device I've ever owned.
[16:17:07] <prospectacle> I don't really like my tablet it's in many ways the worst of both worlds. I use either phone or laptop for everything.
[16:17:01] <Blackmoore> oh good god. I'd never let a toddler near one
[16:16:55] <crutchy> and facecrap... lets not forget that :-P
[16:16:41] <Blackmoore> and of course web and games.
[16:16:41] <crutchy> hahaha
[16:16:33] <crutchy> one of those 10.1 or whatever sumsung galaxy things
[16:16:24] <mechanicjay> My Wife's tablet, though, is mostly a Toddler Pacification Device.
[16:16:23] <Blackmoore> yes, she keeps her RPG books (as pdfs) in it. uses it as a reader.
[16:16:18] <prospectacle> I see.
[16:16:08] <crutchy> games, photo shit
[16:16:03] <crutchy> yeah
[16:16:02] <mechanicjay> Well, it on loan from our Faculty Lab so I can test the mobile app build I'm doing.
[16:15:58] <crutchy> besides flappy bird?
[16:15:49] <prospectacle> Blackmoore, crutchy, do your wives use the tablets?
[16:15:33] <prospectacle> mechanicjay, do you have any use for the tablet?
[16:15:29] <crutchy> i'm poor
[16:15:26] <crutchy> my wife has all 3
[16:15:17] <Blackmoore> not i. the wife has all three.
[16:15:12] <mechanicjay> Got all three sitting in front of me
[16:15:10] <SedBot> <prospectacle> Does anyone here have a laptop, a tablet, and a smart phone?
[16:15:09] <prospectacle> s/phone/smart phone/
[16:15:04] <crutchy> 1st and 3rd
[16:14:52] <prospectacle> Does anyone here have a laptop, a tablet, and a phone?
[16:13:59] <crutchy> the pics don't actually look that bad
[16:13:51] <crutchy> or maybe not color
[16:13:47] <Woods> Maybe it is just really really zoomed in, actually.
[16:13:14] <crutchy> not sure they had hasselblads on old clunker probes
[16:13:03] <crutchy> isn't that with a hasselblad though?
[16:12:44] <Woods> No, I mean... Compare that to one that Nasa released: http://www.nasa.gov
[16:12:42] <crutchy> you would sink in the cheese
[16:12:37] <crutchy> that's impossible
[16:12:26] <crutchy> oh yeah they never went to the moon :-P
[16:11:48] <Woods> Crutchy: Faaaaaaaake
[16:11:37] <crutchy> NASA = need another secretary of the agency
[16:11:35] <prospectacle> hi mechanicjay
[16:11:14] <crutchy> if that's no joke that's fucking awesome
[16:11:02] <crutchy> lmao!
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[16:10:42] <xlefay> prospectacle, I agree, but I suppose that doesn't work for everyone :/
[16:10:42] <mechanicjay> http://www.wired.com
[16:10:39] <crutchy> g'day mechanicjay
[16:10:38] <mechanicjay> some light morning reading:
[16:10:25] <mechanicjay> Morning Gents
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[16:10:11] <crutchy> fkin awesome
[16:10:08] <crutchy> that cloudy front on view
[16:10:02] <crutchy> this is my fave: https://www.youtube.com
[16:09:09] <xlefay> That's a pretty awesome piece
[16:09:01] <prospectacle> crutchy, I sometimes think "It would be ok to be in a coma for 20 years as long as you knew you'd wake up" First thing I would say would be "Can I have a look at how awesome your phone is?"
[16:08:54] <xlefay> crutchy, :o
[16:07:59] <prospectacle> xlefay, maybe I'm dreaming but from what I've seen of crowdfunding it could work well and maybe even replace corporate investment.
[16:07:42] <xlefay> LOL
[16:07:15] <crutchy> freeze yourself :-P
[16:07:07] <crutchy> xlefay: do what cartman did when he couldn't wait for the nintendo wii
[16:07:02] <xlefay> prospectacle, that could work I suppose
[16:06:49] <prospectacle> xlefay: "stretch goals", e.g. "we want to make three episodes, but if we get X + 20% we'll make five. if we get X*2 we'll make a dozen ,etc.
[16:06:41] <crutchy> yeah that's what i meant lol
[16:06:40] <xlefay> damn.... this waiting is killing me lol
[16:06:29] <crutchy> xlefay, you seen this (fan made): https://www.youtube.com
[16:06:29] <xlefay> crutchy, I hope they'll introduce transphasic ones, like in the final episode of, ST: voyager
[16:06:09] <xlefay> prospectacle, true, but I suppose, they do need a way to have a stable stream of finances. e.g. fans won't pay for every and each episodes over a timespan of years
[16:05:34] <crutchy> so they should have some kickass photonic torpedos (or whatever they called)
[16:05:27] <xlefay> prospectacle, ehm, well, ST: renegades is made by Renegades studio, apparently, a studio that has existed for quite a while already
[16:05:14] <prospectacle> xlefay, fair enough, but that strikes me as half way between the old system and the emerging new system where you just pay for what you want and they produce it for you
[16:04:53] <xlefay> crutchy, after, for instance, Icheb plays in ST: renegades
[16:04:33] <xlefay> prospectacle, from what I understand, they're idea is to only make one episode initially and if there's enough attention/viewers, they'll contact CBS to see if they're interested in producing it along
[16:04:26] <prospectacle> Why bother having studios when fans can just pre-pay
[16:04:25] <crutchy> xlefay, is the ST renegades story set before or after janeway goes back in time to take voyager through the borghole?
[16:03:51] <prospectacle> yeah I think crowdfunding is going to produce some pretty amazing shows and movies, but we'll have to wait to see
[16:03:46] <xlefay> :O
[16:03:41] <Blackmoore> OH Renegades! i forgot about that
[16:03:21] <xlefay> I've been waiting for it from the moment they announced it.. it's getting harder to be patient, but all good things take time ;)
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[16:02:23] <xlefay> prospectacle, hahaha
[16:02:09] <crutchy> oh ruined it :-P
[16:02:04] <xlefay> star trek, of course..
[16:02:00] <xlefay> http://startrekrenegades.com the layout is a bit shiat.. but ok
[16:01:58] <crutchy> hmm what could we say ST stands for i wonder?
[16:01:56] <prospectacle> Sisko still hasn't shaved his head, so I've got a long way to go.
[16:01:40] <xlefay> crutchy, ST renegades :o
[16:01:36] <xlefay> prospectacle, that's a good point
[16:01:34] <crutchy> what are you impatient about, xlefay?
[16:01:33] <prospectacle> ok ds9 it is
[16:01:19] * xlefay is having a hard time being patient!
[16:01:14] <prospectacle> xlefay, well if you could use the SN login you could avoid using email, or having to set "I want to vote" altogether. Just link to the web-form, login to use it, and you're away
[16:01:07] <xlefay> Anyone here excited about ST renegades?
[16:00:58] <crutchy> the "blabla" would have caught my attention
[16:00:46] <xlefay> DS9 definitely.
[16:00:39] <prospectacle> Should I rewatch lost or ds9 while I do some programming and chat?
[16:00:37] <Blackmoore> those damn tube tytems burned out too quick.
[16:00:27] <xlefay> Of course.. I would have got that stuff spammed all over the main page, with a huge fat ass alert.. ok, maybe not that excessive, but there would be an alert on top of the page "Hey, we're taking a vote... blabla"
[16:00:07] <Blackmoore> I have tech from the 80's/ but i rather like the tech i have from the earlyer. nothing beats hand made tools!
[15:59:47] <xlefay> prospectacle, you don't even have to attach the SN login system. I'd have used the checkbox, send an unique link to everyone who wants to vote, and not bother with auth at all
[15:58:41] <xlefay> That's good ;-)
[15:58:30] <Blackmoore> eh. they're good kids. snarky.
[15:58:29] <prospectacle> I agree. A simple form would be fine. Not sure why email was chosen, unless it's super hard to attach the SN login system to some new form.
[15:58:22] <weeds> Blackmoore>: You must be 1950's technology
[15:57:42] <xlefay> Auch, that gotta sting
[15:57:41] <Blackmoore> .. back when they were young...
[15:57:14] <Blackmoore> well my kids decided i was Primordial.
[15:57:00] <xlefay> old or ancient? ;-)
[15:56:53] <Blackmoore> just make nice clean HTML 4 and all should be well.
[15:56:27] <Blackmoore> I guess my point is we shouldnt worry about if it will work on old browsers.
[15:55:22] <Blackmoore> *old Blackmoore is old and apparently senile*
[15:54:28] <prospectacle> Says here lynx supports forms and form inputs http://lynx.isc.org
[15:51:49] <xlefay> haha
[15:51:25] <Blackmoore> i was trying to miss that
[15:51:08] <xlefay> fat porn pigeons.. wait, how could I have missed that?
[15:50:52] <Blackmoore> Now Mosaic should be able to handle the forms
[15:50:18] <crutchy> or use fat porn pidgeons!
[15:49:58] <xlefay> I suppose those people could, of course, send a comment on a postcard..
[15:49:57] <Blackmoore> but only masochists and teletype machines use lynx
[15:49:56] <prospectacle> no doubt some people like it. Are there any text-based browsers that support forms?
[15:49:38] <Blackmoore> NC and i were joking about it a while back.
[15:49:16] <xlefay> nope.. but if it were up to some people, there would be I'm sure
[15:48:59] <prospectacle> most of the site wouldn't work without forms, or is there some alternative means of logging in, posting, etc?
[15:48:44] <Blackmoore> Poor lynx.. we tried to let you rest in peace.
[15:48:40] <xlefay> <a href="/vote/option/5">vote!</a> oh, so horrible
[15:48:36] <prospectacle> oh, well screw lynx then.
[15:47:57] <xlefay> prospectacle, then, we'll need to make it a link!
[15:47:24] <Blackmoore> lynx is html 1, formatting, hyperlinks, it cant pase forms or graphics
[15:46:37] <Blackmoore> no. that was html 2
[15:46:27] <prospectacle> does lynx do forms?
[15:46:17] <Blackmoore> if it doesnt work in lynx... :P
[15:46:09] <prospectacle> <a href='http://w3schools.com'><p><b><i>well check this out</i></b></p></a>
[15:44:29] <prospectacle> lol
[15:43:31] <Woods> Nope, sorry. I only understand <a>, <p>, <b>, and <i> tags.
[15:42:38] <prospectacle> there you go, enjoy
[15:42:06] <prospectacle> Important lesson from this vote, I think, is that a very simple web-form would be better than email. <form><textarea name='vote_text'>Enter your vote here</textarea><input type='submit' value='submit' /></form>
[15:41:17] <Blackmoore> *rants about a lack of any instructions -in simple english- in the damn manual*
[15:39:53] <prospectacle> By the way, I like the idea of buying all the domain names. It could show a slightly different title/logo depending on which one you come in from, but everything else would be the same.
[15:39:32] <prospectacle> Blackmoore, submitted.
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[15:32:42] <weeds> indeed, I should have
[15:32:35] <weeds> I didn't have any problem yesterday with Yahoo. It was in my spam folder as I was told it prob'ly would be.
[15:32:16] <Blackmoore> oh weeds - you should have told them to RTFM.
[15:31:37] <Blackmoore> (and i did check my spam.. only to find stuff in there that should not have been)
[15:31:06] <Blackmoore> ..but later in the day - yahoo wasnt even leting people do that.
[15:30:42] <Blackmoore> so i just started a new email. np
[15:30:30] <Blackmoore> YAHOO didnt want to let me respond to it.
[15:30:09] <Blackmoore> see I actually got the vote form.
[15:29:57] <Blackmoore> :P
[15:29:50] <weeds> you*
[15:28:06] <weeds> Blackmoore: and then oyu have an option to set which logo you want displayed.
[15:27:09] <weeds> Blackmoore: What I said was "All you nerds STFU check spam, read instructions, vote, reply. " How hard is that?
[15:25:55] <Blackmoore> and if anyone pushed crap into the submissions it's me
[15:25:31] <Blackmoore> prospectacle: submit it. I'm taking the week off.
[15:25:13] <Blackmoore> @pros
[15:24:48] <Blackmoore> no problem.
[15:24:39] <Blackmoore> ok, so we buy ALL the names proposed, and pointthem all at the site.
[15:21:27] <Blackmoore> mornin
[15:18:33] <weeds> Good day Mr. Blackmore:
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[15:16:44] <weeds> Just responded on the site name voting story
[15:16:25] <weeds> :)
[15:11:04] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Cross Referencing License Plates and CCW permits - http://sylnt.us - search-for-all-the-things!
[15:07:54] <prospectacle> Happy day to you too
[15:07:47] <prospectacle> yes, true
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[15:05:50] <weeds> I figure that's as good as "good morning" and it aint morning everywhere...
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[15:01:05] <prospectacle> I mean, yes!
[15:00:42] <prospectacle> yes?
[15:00:18] <weeds> happy day!
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[14:46:04] <prospectacle> Hooray I've found a story to submit. I hope no one beat me to it
[14:32:16] <prospectacle> hi everyone
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[13:27:32] <NCommander> arti, ?
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[11:17:14] <Brylarke> Morning
[11:10:35] <crutchy> tidying up some other things a bit
[11:10:34] <xlefay> :P
[11:09:45] <chromas> :-)
[11:09:41] <chromas> I'll just have to wait until he pops back in
[11:08:48] <xlefay> hahaha
[11:08:45] <crutchy> :-P
[11:08:40] <crutchy> i need to prevent chromas from figuring out that it may be possible to trick exec into recursively executing commands
[11:08:25] <xlefay> cool :D
[11:07:26] <crutchy> still tweaking :-P
[11:07:24] <xlefay> Oh my.. it's Thursday already
[11:07:22] <crutchy> not yet
[11:07:11] <xlefay> I see, and you've pushed to Github?
[11:07:06] <crutchy> i have another long weekend YAY!
[11:06:34] <crutchy> the number of handles varies (hence the array_values call to reindex)
[11:06:29] <xlefay> how's things with you guys by the way? :)
[11:06:23] <xlefay> hi chromas :)
[11:06:12] <chromas> hi crutchy, xlefay
[11:06:07] <crutchy> hi chromas
[11:06:03] <crutchy> lol
[11:05:56] <chromas> Your secret source codez are in teh chat log now!
[11:05:48] <xlefay> Yeah, but nonetheless, how many handles do you have in there?
[11:05:16] <crutchy> oops sorry prolly the wrong chan for that
[11:05:14] <crutchy> }
[11:05:12] <crutchy> usleep(0.1e6);
[11:05:10] <crutchy> process_socket($socket);
[11:05:08] <crutchy> $handles=array_values($handles);
[11:05:06] <crutchy> }
[11:05:04] <crutchy> process_stderr($handles[$i]);
[11:05:02] <crutchy> process_stdout($handles[$i]);
[11:05:01] <crutchy> {
[11:05:01] <crutchy> for ($i=0;$i<count($handles);$i++)
[11:05:01] <crutchy> {
[11:05:01] <crutchy> while (True)
[11:04:59] <crutchy> this is the main program loop now:
[11:04:24] <crutchy> very easy to follow now
[11:03:54] <xlefay> It's always good to clean things up
[11:03:54] <crutchy> i took the socket message handling stuff out into a function (like the stdout and stderr, set the socket to nonblocking and got rid of all crazy loops except one main program loop
[11:02:50] <xlefay> ah I see
[11:02:28] <crutchy> it sorta worked but was messy and a bit hard to follow
[11:02:13] <crutchy> in exec
[11:02:10] <crutchy> i didn't like the stdout/stderr stuff
[11:01:37] <crutchy> the redundant department of redundancy
[11:00:54] <xlefay> I think you'd be a great member of the redundancy department!
[11:00:52] <crutchy> we had better set up a department of departments
[11:00:41] <xlefay> LOL
[11:00:36] <xlefay> well, if something does go wrong, the QA team would get the blame o.O
[11:00:22] <crutchy> hmm if we had a crisis department there would be uproar due to there being no call of duty department
[10:59:47] <xlefay> I'm actually setting up a QA team, to prevent this kinda shit from happening in the future
[10:59:24] <crutchy> we need a crisis department
[10:59:21] <xlefay> lol
[10:59:05] <crutchy> though we do seem to feed off crises, which are fun :-P
[10:59:02] <xlefay> so anyway, what's you up to with exec?
[10:58:55] <xlefay> it's a fucking mess lol
[10:58:32] <crutchy> i choose... not to get to wrapped up in it
[10:57:47] <xlefay> hah :P
[10:57:38] <xlefay> I actually dislike the current situation. Essentially, if we back off now, we'll send a fuckt up signal, if we don't, we'll use a name maybe 6-8% of the community chose and most of them even voted wrongly (e.g. placing 1 at their most liked instead of the stupid 9) :~/
[10:57:22] <crutchy> we'd better use the redundant department of redundancy... just to be sure we have backups just in case to be safe
[10:56:14] <crutchy> we need to vote on a new voting system! table a motion to organise a vote voting committee!
[10:55:58] <xlefay> 5-10% (of those 8-10%*)
[10:55:24] <xlefay> haha, what's you up to with exec?
[10:55:13] <xlefay> As far as I see, there's a general consensus that the voting system, just sucks. Some suggest redoing it altogether, other suggest sticking with it.. So only about 8-10% of the community signed up for the vote, I'm fairly sure 5-10%(maybe more) won't be taking vote.. well you get where I'm going with that.
[10:54:07] <crutchy> i'm reworking exec... again :-P
[10:54:03] <xlefay> http://soylentnews.org
[10:53:54] <xlefay> morning crutchy :)
[10:53:47] <crutchy> morning xlefay :-D
[10:53:43] <xlefay> The feedback one
[10:53:34] <crutchy> there's a voting article?
[10:49:39] <xlefay> Well, seems the voting article has gotten quite a bit of response
[10:48:28] <xlefay> morning :)
[10:45:49] <crutchy> :-P
[10:45:45] <crutchy> g'day brylarke
[10:45:38] <crutchy> g'day bylarke
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[09:57:17] <crutchy> or xchat auto-reconnect for mattie_p :-D
[09:56:30] <crutchy> wb mattie_p :-P
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[09:40:15] <Konomi> hey ~
[09:40:09] <crutchy> hi konomi :-D
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[08:51:17] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - The Science of Shakespeare - http://sylnt.us - Bright-Bards
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[06:58:26] <arti> hey ncommander: http://sourceforge.net
[06:52:01] <SpallsHurgenson> slightly to the left, actually
[06:49:07] <arti> so you're in the middle of it
[06:48:55] <SpallsHurgenson> I think it's the beginning of the end of the beginning of the end of the beginning, which is sort of in the middle of the whole thing
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[06:33:19] <arti> :D
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[05:24:53] <SpallsHurgenson> I seem to have exploded
[04:18:53] * SpallsHurgenson doesn't like how his geiger counter is ticking and crackling like that...I
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[04:17:21] <SirFinkus> http://en.wikipedia.org
[04:14:53] <SirFinkus> hehe, I was corrected by a Ukrainian on that
[04:14:21] * SpallsHurgenson wanted to specify that this was the real one... THE Ukraine, not any of the imitators :)
[04:13:26] <SirFinkus> it's Ukraine, not The Ukraine
[04:12:13] * SpallsHurgenson goes off to shoot russians and mutants in the ukraine
[04:04:10] <SirFinkus> sup kobach
[03:58:10] <kobach> lol
[03:56:40] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.smbc-comics.com
[03:56:16] <SirFinkus> negotiable
[03:56:01] <SirFinkus> going rate is 4 hours more battery life on my laptop
[03:55:33] <SirFinkus> my soul is pretty cheap
[03:55:26] <SirFinkus> oh, I don't mind
[03:51:47] <SpallsHurgenson> unfortunately, it does all this through black magic and satanism
[03:48:19] <SirFinkus> apparently it solve climate change too
[03:46:24] <SpallsHurgenson> "Graphene is the only form of carbon (and generally all solid materials) in which each single atom is in exposure for chemical reaction from two sides (due to the 2D structure)...physicists reported that sheets of Graphene one atom thick are a hundred times more chemically reactive than thicker sheets"
[03:46:18] <SirFinkus> it actually does
[03:46:16] <SirFinkus> http://www.naukawpolsce.pap.pl
[03:46:16] <SirFinkus> lol
[03:45:53] <SirFinkus> curse cancer too
[03:45:37] <SpallsHurgenson> "Graphene can self-repair holes in its sheets, when exposed to molecules containing carbon, such as hydrocarbons. Bombarded with pure carbon atoms, the atoms perfectly align into hexagons, completely filling the holes."
[03:45:05] <SirFinkus> I probably need to be smarter to understand why it makes everything awesome, I'll just roll with it I guess
[03:44:35] * SpallsHurgenson sticks with animal byproducts for all his technology
[03:44:32] <SirFinkus> well, that's pretty neat
[03:43:09] * SpallsHurgenson can't imagine any useful applications for stuff like that
[03:42:55] <SpallsHurgenson> "Graphene is pure carbon in the form of a very thin, nearly transparent sheet, basically one atom thick. It is remarkably strong for its very low weight, and it conducts heat and electricity with great efficiency"
[03:41:56] <SirFinkus> cool
[03:41:49] <SpallsHurgenson> yes to all of that.
[03:40:52] <SirFinkus> if dropped, will it exceed the speed of light?
[03:40:21] <SirFinkus> and allow perpetual motion?
[03:40:03] <SirFinkus> does it turn lead into gold too?
[03:39:24] <SpallsHurgenson> fun with carbon atoms? :)
[03:39:06] <SirFinkus> it sounds like some kind of magic
[03:38:44] <SirFinkus> like every week I see a new story about how it's going to revolutionize batteries/space elevators/solar panels etc
[03:38:18] <SirFinkus> so can someone explain wtf graphene is? it reeks of bullshit to me
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[03:28:41] <SpallsHurgenson> semi-informative history of AIM, sorta interesting http://mashable.com
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[03:12:22] <kobach> surgeon balls hurgenson
[03:12:17] <michealpwalls> lol
[03:12:12] <kobach> most famous pornstar on SN
[03:11:52] <michealpwalls> O.o
[03:11:34] <kobach> BALLS HURGENSON
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[01:55:41] <SirFinkus> wouldn't even respond to arp requests
[01:55:21] <SirFinkus> being stingy handing out ips
[01:55:16] <SirFinkus> fucking pos router
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[01:38:56] <michealpwalls> lol
[01:34:47] * SirFinkus downloads wireshark
[01:31:44] <SirFinkus> bah, sometimes I fucking hate networking
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[00:33:24] <SirFinkus> basically a step below writing your representatives
[00:32:51] <SirFinkus> lol petitions
[00:05:38] <xlefay> Well, for all Americans here: http://act.freepress.net ;-)
[00:04:17] <xlefay> and ironically, that website also featured that..
[00:03:44] <xlefay> Indeed
[00:03:29] <ar> net neutrality is alive in europe
[00:02:39] <xlefay> http://www.savetheinternet.com .. seriously
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[00:01:48] <xlefay> uh oh
[00:01:40] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Feedback Requested: Name Vote - http://sylnt.us - apt-get-install-democracy
[00:01:05] <Blackmoore|afk> thanks.
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[00:00:59] <xlefay> ok, drive safe (if you're driving) ;-)
[00:00:47] <xlefay> Blackmoore, :~/
[00:00:44] <Blackmoore> heading home c ya.
[00:00:33] <Blackmoore> burned out.
[00:00:00] <xlefay> For the US anyway, that really sucks