#Soylent | Logs for 2014-04-22

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[23:59:50] <arti> is that some sorta of san fran parade?
[23:59:13] <juggs> pride before the fall
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[23:58:55] * xlefay hopes pbnjoe knows we're joking
[23:58:43] <xlefay> lol xD
[23:58:35] * arti points to 'murica
[23:58:28] <arti> which i guess is better than being fat
[23:58:02] <arti> xlefay: they're a bunch of smug bastards
[23:58:00] <xlefay> _especially_
[23:57:59] <chromas> So like, the USA must be secretly awesomely nice in private
[23:57:47] <xlefay> which makes every Canadian, especially pbnjoe, suspect.
[23:57:46] <arti> ^- extra white pronunciation
[23:57:41] <arti> "Hey there Takahishiromata!"
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[23:57:33] <arti> dubbed animu
[23:57:19] <xlefay> chromas, well.. it makes sense doesn't it? When someone looks to nice to be true, it usually is so, no? :)
[23:56:33] <chromas> I guess that's why they always gasp weird
[23:56:22] <chromas> They do seem to have a monopoly on dubbed anime here
[23:56:20] <xlefay> (in #staff that was...)
[23:55:37] <xlefay> pbnjoe, we were discussing Canadians secretly plotting every major event in the US, and such.. hence, the class name.
[23:55:25] <pbnjoe> hope everyone's doing well
[23:55:17] <pbnjoe> I's good, and will be back in about 20min to chat
[23:54:47] <xlefay> pbnjoe, how's you?
[23:54:43] <pbnjoe> xlefay :p
[23:54:39] <chromas> nice
[23:54:30] <xlefay> chromas, yeah, some prefer tmux over screen because you can split windows and such
[23:54:05] <chromas> No. Looks like an alternative to screen?
[23:53:53] <xlefay> pbnjoe, you can't find me, after all, I'm a Canadian infiltrator, we're invincible & generally invisible.
[23:53:26] <xlefay> chromas, auch; guess it's working now, but did you tried tmux?
[23:52:59] <chromas> I did have to change emulation mode in ConnectBot for the powerline part to work right. There don't seem to be any docs but screen mode (and screen itself) break it by default
[23:52:52] * pbnjoe goes off to hunt him down
[23:52:51] * xlefay ducks
[23:52:46] <xlefay> The only thing I miss is !! substitution and such but I suppose, that's a trade you make :)
[23:52:45] * pbnjoe looks at xlefay's class on irpg
[23:52:29] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Promotes Network to Foil Digital Spying - http://sylnt.us - nsa-approved-afdb
[23:52:06] <xlefay> chromas, glad it's working out, it's pretty intuitive ^^
[23:51:34] <chromas> It's awesome, thanks!
[23:50:39] <xlefay> How's fish working for ya?
[23:50:32] <xlefay> chromas, I will try that tomorrow, much appreciated buddy
[23:50:14] <xlefay> juggs, I've never had that problem on any distro (well, not recently anyway).. no biggie I don't like flash anyway, so just disabled it, but it was extremely annoying.
[23:50:13] <mrcoolbp> awesome, thanks
[23:50:04] <Blackmoore> mrcoolbp: I've passed the message to freesword. he's sending it in
[23:48:40] <chromas> especially for the back port
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[23:48:24] <xlefay> hmm, I should try that
[23:48:23] <chromas> makes the toast go in smooth
[23:48:23] <juggs> xlefay, well that's a surprise.... flash (plugin) seems to have a habit of running around gobbling up all available memory on Ubuntu. Don't seem to get the same problem on Mint though which is odd being a derivative and all.
[23:48:19] <chromas> KY jelly
[23:47:32] <xlefay> I did try alternatives, such as, soap.. didn't quite work out the way I had planned!
[23:46:42] <xlefay> nah, other toast is blocking it already :-(
[23:46:19] <xlefay> crutchy, enjoy :)
[23:46:19] <crutchy> fess up xlefay... you were trying to stick toast in the cd drive again weren't you :-P
[23:45:59] <xlefay> saustin_, a bit annoying eh?
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[23:45:33] <xlefay> Also, I've finally found the culprit of my OOM problems with Ubuntu.. it was Flash!
[23:45:19] <crutchy> first coffee stime. still half asleep
[23:44:59] <arti> brought to you by the letter B and Poopie Finger
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[23:44:43] <xlefay> haha :P
[23:44:38] <arti> hahaha
[23:44:38] <mrcoolbp> lol
[23:44:34] * arti suggests shades of grey
[23:44:16] <arti> put on some relaxing music and read
[23:44:05] * arti recommends a glass of wine
[23:43:46] <arti> xlefay: too much caffeine?
[23:43:45] <xlefay> mrcoolbp, yea
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[23:43:35] * arti is addressing rough edges of a design
[23:43:32] <mrcoolbp> xlefay: that stinks man
[23:43:14] <xlefay> How are you guys?
[23:43:06] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore: you can send the email from any other email address, just copy the enitre text of the email
[23:43:06] <xlefay> just tried to sleep for the past hour and a half.. didn't work :~/
[23:42:47] * arti keeps getting 2 hours added here and there
[23:42:40] <arti> i keep hovering around the same spot
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[23:42:04] <SirFinkus> unless I steal something cool
[23:42:01] <arti> greetings dutchman
[23:41:59] <crutchy> how you doin?
[23:41:51] <SirFinkus> well, I'm well out of the running anyway
[23:41:50] <xlefay> mornin' crutchy
[23:41:41] <xlefay> arti, probably less, considering the disconnect will penalize him too.. but still, better be safe than sorry, no? ;)
[23:41:13] <arti> SirFinkus: we must keep ar disconnected for at least 8 days
[23:40:56] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore: you can send the email from any other email address, just include the text
[23:40:50] <arti> i think it was beef, could be roadkill, it's peppered though
[23:40:43] <SirFinkus> my idlerpg took a hit for that little issue
[23:40:35] * arti offers peppered smoked meat
[23:40:25] * crutchy salutes
[23:40:22] <arti> it was pretty annoying discovering that
[23:40:16] <arti> SirFinkus: once i had my router set to renew the lease every hour.
[23:40:04] <arti> g'oop crutchy
[23:39:56] <SirFinkus> I thought it was annoying to people when I'd dc and reconnect every hour or so
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[23:36:30] <mrcoolbp> someone tell him there's an actual log FFS
[23:36:00] <deadbeef> karma - words: 3
[23:36:00] <juggs> words++
[23:35:54] <Blackmoore> i expect it is a bot logging our chat.
[23:35:25] <Blackmoore> he hasnt said word one for two days
[23:33:46] <mrcoolbp> "And the highscore for Connections goes to... saustin_ you you're now on top!
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[23:20:53] <Woods> Arti: lawl
[23:20:42] <TK> Private erikshun at attention!
[23:20:42] <SirFinkus> also, bummer is hardly an improvement if you think about it
[23:20:24] <arti> "why is your name so hard?"
[23:20:24] <TK> Or a private named Erikson who slurs
[23:20:19] <Blackmoore> *pats on head* of course it is
[23:20:15] <arti> a life time of corrections
[23:20:03] <arti> ITS PRONOUNCED BONNER
[23:19:41] <SirFinkus> who's a major
[23:19:37] <SirFinkus> there has to be a guy with the last name "boner"
[23:19:19] <TK> I mean bummer
[23:19:17] <TK> major boner
[23:19:12] <Blackmoore> can "vote" send back a confimation email?
[23:19:12] <SirFinkus> without getting arrested that is
[23:18:59] <SirFinkus> so they're building houses behind mine and I can't walk around naked in the sunshine anymore
[23:17:52] <mrcoolbp> that's what you get for yusing ymail = )
[23:17:46] <arti> silent failure is best in the professional realm >.>
[23:17:38] <stderr> SirFinkus: I was looking into a way to use the Devotee perl module from SlashCode.
[23:17:29] <SirFinkus> it's better than a silent failure Blackmoore
[23:17:23] <TK> *bat*
[23:17:20] <TK> *swoosh*
[23:17:08] <Blackmoore> ah yahoo.
[23:17:00] * arti gets out the string and wiggles it excitingly
[23:16:56] <SirFinkus> it seems like the email is more work for everyone
[23:16:52] <Blackmoore> Error sending message Your message was not sent Suspicious activity was detected on your account. To protect your account and those fo our users, your message was not sent. Please follow the guidelines outlined on our help page to resume sending mail. We apologize for the inconvenience.
[23:16:44] <TK> prrrr
[23:16:41] <mrcoolbp> hah
[23:16:39] * arti pets tk
[23:16:34] <TK> I'm going to go buy some ascii rat traps
[23:16:31] <SirFinkus> I don't understand why there can't just be a poll that only shows up for people signed up for the vote
[23:16:30] * arti o.o
[23:16:15] <Blackmoore> i had issue with it yesterday, but freesword is trying to send in his vote now
[23:16:14] <TK> thanks arti, thanks for that, enjoy your plague germs
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[23:15:12] <Blackmoore> at very least you cant replay to the vote email
[23:13:32] <mrcoolbp> audioguy ^^^^
[23:13:16] <Blackmoore> guys- Yahoo has flagged the VOTE address as spam, and will not allow anyone to send email to it.
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[23:13:09] <Subsentient> Well g2g
[23:12:17] <aqu4> ` / |
[23:12:15] <aqu4> <o^[=====]------
[23:11:57] <Blackmoore> *needs a nap*
[23:10:42] <arti> they scream when i cut them, they scream when i stop, there is no justice
[23:10:28] <TK> It's all arti's fault
[23:10:27] <arti> indeed!
[23:10:23] <TK> That explains why all these rats are here.
[23:10:06] <TK> I think you killed the cat
[23:10:05] <chromas> catsmission interrupted
[23:10:04] <arti> looks like alvin
[23:09:56] <arti> if you're going to breakwind and bail, i will smite you
[23:09:54] <TK> / O \
[23:09:51] <TK> `>>x<<´
[23:09:49] * arti hopes it's something awesome
[23:09:48] <TK> ( > º < )
[23:09:45] <TK> / @ @ \
[23:09:44] <TK> |\_/|
[23:09:35] <Subsentient> https://github.com
[23:09:29] <Subsentient> Was just leaving, but, I'll leave you with this before I go.
[23:09:26] <arti> :D
[23:09:20] <Subsentient> arti: hi!
[23:09:14] <arti> greetings Subsentient
[23:09:03] * arti sees a string of text
[23:08:53] * Subsentient sees a binary symbol with valie 0x01f400
[23:08:34] * chromas demands a suppressor on that ^
[23:08:18] <SirFinkus> 🐀
[23:07:56] <aqu4> ` / |
[23:07:54] <aqu4> <o^[=====]------
[23:07:47] <TK> the rats are back
[23:07:29] <aqu4> ` / |
[23:07:27] <aqu4> <o^[=====]------
[23:07:17] <TK> short for sugar, after all
[23:06:59] <TK> but pronounced Shoog
[23:06:55] <Woods> Geeze you guys, when you typo your typos, maybe you should just take a nap or something.
[23:06:53] <TK> I always assumed it would be spelled "sug"
[23:04:12] <arti> fek
[23:04:09] <arti> shug
[23:04:08] <arti> this here sug
[23:03:55] * arti sets mode +twang
[23:03:32] <arti> lol
[23:03:23] <mrcoolbp> heh
[23:03:21] <mrcoolbp> *southern*
[23:03:13] <mrcoolbp> shug? is that like the souther "Don't worry about it shug" ?
[23:01:38] <Blackmoore> *shug*
[22:57:25] * arti decides it is time to bring his bot here
[22:57:03] <arti> hahaha
[22:56:47] <mrcoolbp> acutally, of note, I'm significatly less asshole-ish then the avg person around this state
[22:56:29] <arti> it's okay, i'm in california and we're super weird
[22:56:21] <mrcoolbp> = )
[22:56:17] <mrcoolbp> yes I am
[22:52:27] <arti> you're just a masshole
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[22:52:11] * mrcoolbp get's back to work and logs out of soycow2863987
[22:51:20] * arti terminals saustin__
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[22:51:18] <SirFinkus> not that there's anything in it anyway
[22:51:17] * mrcoolbp hides
[22:51:10] <SirFinkus> oh darn, forgot my wallet
[22:50:59] * SoyCow2863987 consoles saustin_
[22:50:47] <arti> greetings SirFinkus, we were just looking for someone to pay for our meal
[22:50:25] <arti> = )
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[22:50:21] <mrcoolbp> = )
[22:50:19] <SoyCow2863987> I'll take it = )
[22:50:04] <arti> like... dried fruit and 10% off type stuff
[22:49:49] <arti> it has perks
[22:49:48] <SoyCow2863987> lol
[22:49:42] <SoyCow2863987> oooooh shiny
[22:49:40] <arti> it's totally not like a jew star
[22:49:32] * arti attaches a gold star to SoyCow2863987's ear
[22:49:18] <SoyCow2863987> Yay I won!
[22:49:16] * arti should make an award for it
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[22:47:35] <mrcoolbp> "And the highscore for Connections goes to....SoyCow2863987.....sorry saustin_ you lost by 3 connections"
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[22:46:02] <arti> maybe he just wants to highscore for connections
[22:45:29] <arti> hahaha
[22:44:44] <mrcoolbp> and he's gone....
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[22:43:40] <mrcoolbp> connection issues?
[22:43:37] <mrcoolbp> saustin?
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[22:43:29] <mrcoolbp> lol
[22:42:46] <Teckla> That would be yes.
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[22:42:35] <Teckla> saustin: Connection issues?
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[22:31:06] <mrcoolbp> understood, have a good day at work
[22:31:01] <MrBluze> ill check it later when i get time
[22:30:56] <MrBluze> email is ironically better in this case
[22:30:47] <MrBluze> okay
[22:30:47] <mrcoolbp> didn't see you in here
[22:30:44] <mrcoolbp> I *JUST* sent you an email!
[22:30:37] <MrBluze> im rushing off to work atm
[22:30:32] <MrBluze> hi mrcoolbp
[22:30:18] <mrcoolbp> MrBluze?
[22:30:04] <Woods> That should do the trick.
[22:29:47] <Blackmoore> found it.
[22:29:43] <Woods> The "hide joins/parts" bit is what you are looking for.
[22:29:30] <Woods> You can hit "Menu" in the top right, and then "options"
[22:29:04] <Blackmoore> i'm in the firefox webclient
[22:28:45] <Woods> There should be an option for it in your IRC client. What are you using?
[22:28:29] <Blackmoore> geh fine. how do i do that?
[22:28:12] <Woods> You can hide log in/out messages, but not just a particular person.
[22:27:57] <Blackmoore> is there anyway i can hid him?
[22:27:37] <Blackmoore> why why are you constantly logging in and out?!
[22:27:12] <Blackmoore> oh for f sake who is this saustin?
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[22:20:20] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Prosocial Gamers - http://sylnt.us - didnt-ask-first-person-shooter-fanatics
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[21:01:21] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - IBM Mainframe that Helped Send Men to the Moon - http://sylnt.us - and-now-reduced-to-the-size-of-a-wristwatch
[20:56:51] <xlefay> That's the "stone" version
[20:56:45] <xlefay> I couldn't resist. cowsay has a few silly ones :p
[20:56:04] <Woods> Aw look, he has a litle tongue.
[20:55:57] <xlefay> :o
[20:55:53] <xlefay> || ||
[20:55:51] <xlefay> U ||----w |
[20:55:49] <xlefay> (__)\ )\/\
[20:55:47] <xlefay> \ (**)\_______
[20:55:45] <xlefay> \ ^__^
[20:55:43] <xlefay> -----------------------------------------
[20:55:41] <xlefay> \ Project) /
[20:55:40] <xlefay> | Joseph L. Brothers, Linux/PowerPC |
[20:55:40] <xlefay> | conclusion can be drawn from them." (By |
[20:55:40] <xlefay> | from these figures except that no |
[20:55:40] <xlefay> / "Absolutely nothing should be concluded \
[20:55:40] <xlefay> _________________________________________
[20:54:28] <xlefay> rofl
[20:54:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> (damn cats, never staying where you put them)
[20:53:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> (there was supposed to be a cat in there)
[20:53:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> ╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
[20:53:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> which looks like this:
[20:53:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> I also do /exec - -o ~/tableflip.txt
[20:53:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> it just prevents (usually) unneeded result info from showing up in your control window
[20:52:56] <xlefay> I figured that much
[20:52:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> the - isn't actually *necessary*
[20:52:05] <xlefay> except, the '-' so, /exec -o cowsay $(fortune) ;]
[20:51:51] <xlefay> AndyTheAbsurd, in (he)xchat the exact same ;)
[20:51:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> xlefay: in irssi: /exec - -o cowsay $(fortune)
[20:51:04] * xlefay whines about the nose bleeding _again_ :|
[20:50:06] <xlefay> xcowfortune ftw
[20:49:59] <xlefay> AndyTheAbsurd, cowsay `fortune`
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[20:49:18] * mrcoolbp|afk goes back to work
[20:48:51] <mrcoolbp|afk> ah
[20:48:44] <mrcoolbp|afk> = )
[20:48:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> mrcoolbp|afk: it's the program "cowsay"
[20:48:32] <mrcoolbp|afk> yours looks like a cow
[20:48:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> yay, I fixed it so that the pipe didn't fuck it up!
[20:48:27] <mrcoolbp|afk> andy, it was better than his....
[20:48:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> || ||
[20:48:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> ||----w |
[20:48:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> (__)\ )\/\
[20:48:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> \ (oo)\_______
[20:48:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> \ ^__^
[20:48:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> ----------------------------------------
[20:48:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> < mrcoolbp|afk is not good at ASCII art. >
[20:48:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> ________________________________________
[20:48:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> this might not work, gonna try it anyway.
[20:48:04] <mrcoolbp|afk> Subsentient ^^
[20:47:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...
[20:46:52] <mrcoolbp|afk> or something....
[20:46:43] <mrcoolbp|afk> ` / |
[20:46:42] <mrcoolbp|afk> <°°^( )---'
[20:46:38] <mrcoolbp|afk> or...
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[20:38:36] * Subsentient has achieved ASCII rat perfection
[20:38:23] <aqu4> ` / |
[20:38:17] <aqu4> <o^[=====]------
[20:36:02] <aqu4> ` | |
[20:36:00] <aqu4> <o^[=====]----
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[20:19:41] <Blackmoore> blame the bot
[20:19:37] <Blackmoore> no idea.
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[19:59:37] <arti> what
[19:59:25] <Blackmoore> damn toilet onions.
[19:51:28] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Golf Courses Experiment With Pizza-Size Holes - http://sylnt.us - no-pizza-was-harmed
[19:47:31] <Woods> I should have known.
[19:47:18] <Woods> Ah
[19:45:25] <aqu4> Woods: No, they're talking toilet onions.
[19:45:19] <xlefay> sheep ready for slaughter?
[19:44:58] <Woods> Is that a.... Are those mice?
[19:42:33] <aqu4> Blackmoore: squeek
[19:42:06] <aqu4> ` | |
[19:42:05] <aqu4> <o^[=====]----
[19:42:01] <aqu4> ` | |
[19:41:55] <aqu4> ` | |
[19:41:53] <aqu4> <o^[=====]----
[19:41:16] <aqu4> | |
[19:41:09] <aqu4> <o^[=====]----
[19:40:51] <Blackmoore> aw. no bacon.
[19:40:42] <Blackmoore> moo
[19:40:23] <aqu4> zzzzznnork... huh? what'd I miss?
[19:39:58] <Subsentient> heh
[19:37:15] <mrcoolbp> speaking of programming and bots ^
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[19:34:41] <Blackmoore> *sob* I knw i was a poorly written AI!
[19:34:20] <Blackmoore> i feel like i failed a turning test.
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[19:34:05] <SirFinkus> it almost seemed like a prompt for a programming test or something
[19:34:05] <Blackmoore> Although now I think my vote doesn't include my id number. grr.
[19:33:50] <SirFinkus> the entire thing was one of the stranger processes I've participated in
[19:33:44] <weeds> There it was, in the Yahoo spam folder!
[19:33:26] <Blackmoore> yeah. I'm not suprised.
[19:33:18] <mrcoolbp> Cmn32480: We are trying
[19:33:12] <SirFinkus> lol me too Blackmoore
[19:33:10] <xlefay> Blackmoore, I'm afraid that happens to a lot of people. :(
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[19:32:33] <Blackmoore> ah well.
[19:32:32] <Cmn32480> I must say, the staff here has been rather exceptional at addressing things directly to the community.
[19:32:26] <Blackmoore> and then it turns out i read the damn voting instructions backwards.
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[19:31:01] <xlefay> Blackmoore|afk, can you imagine with the ~ hundred domain names in the e-mail? ;)
[19:31:01] <Blackmoore|afk> I had to start a new email to reply
[19:30:42] <Blackmoore|afk> YAhoo seems to think that the email from soylent is spam.
[19:30:41] <xlefay> Ok, but please PM me your voting ID then (otherwise I can't ask the guys in charge of the vote to confirm it hehe) [I wouldn't recommend posting it in the channel.. because someone else might vote for you!]
[19:29:37] <Cmn32480> I'll keep IRC open for a few hours at least until 5pm Eastern
[19:29:36] <SirFinkus> and a "Get the eco-friendly power of virtualization with Workstation 10 and save 20%" email
[19:29:34] <xlefay> SirFinkus, stuff like that happens to me all the time.. even SN e-mails me 3 or 4 times.. guess those test accounts should be deleted or smth
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[19:29:09] <SirFinkus> 3 in the past hour
[19:29:05] <SirFinkus> vmware has sent me 6 emails inviting me to "VMware Desktop & App Virtualization Seminars"
[19:28:57] <xlefay> Cmn32480, so where would you like to be contact via (I'd hate to see you leave and unable to confirm you're vote went through)
[19:28:51] <Woods> I do, since I am the new guy.
[19:28:44] <Woods> This is the internet Cmn32580, you are never alone.
[19:28:39] <Cmn32480> Which one of you gets to be the big spoon?
[19:28:21] <xlefay> Exactly :P
[19:28:13] <mrcoolbp> sharing is caring
[19:28:07] <xlefay> mrcoolbp, hey, we're all in this together, best to share no? :)
[19:27:55] <mrcoolbp> xlefay: thanks!
[19:27:42] <Cmn32480> I'm not alone? Wow... so this is what it feels like!
[19:27:41] <mrcoolbp> Cmn32480: I think you can just delete all the names you don't want to vote for
[19:27:33] <xlefay> Cmn32480, I'll spread the blame equally amongst the staff ;-)
[19:27:19] <Woods> I think someone reported a Yahoo issue yesterday as well.
[19:27:08] <mrcoolbp> that does happen
[19:27:00] <Cmn32480> I know you are staff. Everybody point the finger at you when stuff goes wrong. ;-)
[19:26:18] <xlefay> If you want me to do it, leave your e-mail in my PM (I'm staff, in case you want to confirm /whois xlefay should prove that) ;)
[19:26:02] <Cmn32480> Thanks xlefay
[19:25:57] <xlefay> (and, relay that message back to you via e-mail, or otherwise, via IRC if you're here, you can also reply on the voting poll if you like)
[19:25:50] <Cmn32480> That'd be swell. I'll send it over shortly.
[19:25:29] <xlefay> Cmn32480, I believe it does, because the vote ID is all that matters (afaik); if you do that, I'll contact the person responsible for the vote and ask to confirm your vote went through if you like
[19:24:40] <Cmn32480> Can I copy and paste into another email address and still ahve it count?
[19:24:05] <Cmn32480> Mostly I think that Yahoo sucks... but it is that because of the number of links and domain names, it will not let me send it
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[19:23:15] <xlefay> I'm not participating myself but may I ask, what kind of issue are you experiencing?
[19:22:25] <Cmn32480> anybody else having issues replying to the email for the first name vote?
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[19:21:16] <SirFinkus> granted, it's only vice
[19:21:07] <SirFinkus> his last video https://www.youtube.com
[19:20:15] <xlefay> Great, can that reporter please write a report about it?
[19:17:28] <SirFinkus> holy shit, the militia has "captured" an American reporter
[19:11:10] <SirFinkus> Welp, Kiev is restarting their "anti-terrorist" operation
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[18:30:27] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Animations of Simulated Cell Insides - http://sylnt.us - too-small-to-see
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[18:17:53] <SirFinkus> well, I know how I'm spending my next half hour
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[18:17:36] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[18:11:46] <SirFinkus> well, ebooks weren't a thing when I got it
[18:11:11] <stderr> Uh, dead tree...
[18:11:00] <SirFinkus> well, I have a physical copy
[18:10:41] <stderr> SirFinkus: http://www.gutenberg.org or http://www.gutenberg.org
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[18:05:16] <SirFinkus> I really should read Gulliver's Travels again, you've reminded me
[18:04:31] <SirFinkus> hmm, good question
[18:03:22] <stderr> SirFinkus: Depends... Is it stored as big-endian or little-endian?
[18:02:11] * SirFinkus doesn't really know if that's true, but it sounds funny
[18:02:01] <Woods> Bits of bytes.
[18:01:59] <SirFinkus> well, it borrows the first byte from the pile of poop character
[18:01:57] <stderr> Or worse: Atoms!
[18:01:43] <stderr> xlefay: "May contain traces of bits"
[18:01:13] <stderr> More cookies: strings ~/.Xauthority
[18:00:28] <xlefay> I'm sure it's laced with bad stuff or worse!
[18:00:19] * xlefay is debating whether to eat said cookie or not..
[18:00:01] <stderr> :-)
[17:59:58] <stderr> http://www.fileformat.info
[17:59:58] <xlefay> http://www.fileformat.info
[17:59:57] <xlefay> oh wait.. t's actually a cookie
[17:59:48] <SirFinkus> forgot which one
[17:59:45] <SirFinkus> well the "missing glyph" character on some os looks kind of like a rectangular chocolate chip cookies
[17:59:32] <stderr> http://www.fileformat.info
[17:59:19] <xlefay> stderr, I was thinking the same thing
[17:58:42] <stderr> "It's a trap!"... It's probably that weird poop character.
[17:58:35] <SirFinkus> probably a good idea, you don't really know me very well
[17:57:53] <xlefay> hmm.. *respectfully rejects weird looking cookies*
[17:57:38] <SirFinkus> well, it's a cookie, take my word for it
[17:57:29] <xlefay> just a block'
[17:57:22] <xlefay> That doesn't even show up here properly lol
[17:57:12] <SirFinkus> there you go
[17:57:08] <SirFinkus> 🍪
[17:56:39] <xlefay> I want a cookie.
[17:56:14] <SirFinkus> I want one
[17:56:12] <SirFinkus> http://upload.wikimedia.org
[17:55:39] <TK> themoreyouknow.gif
[17:54:40] <SirFinkus> a meteoroid, until it hits the ground, then it's a meteorite
[17:54:25] <Blackmoore> .. um anything it wants to be called?
[17:54:19] <stderr> TK: "A big problem"?
[17:53:59] <TK> So what do you call an asteroid that breaches our atmosphere?
[17:53:23] <SirFinkus> it's a meteor if it burns up in the atmosphere
[17:52:44] <SirFinkus> that's why I was on wikipedia, I wanted to make sure I used the correct term
[17:52:31] <SirFinkus> no, then it's a meteoroid
[17:51:53] <stderr> Playing Music/Metallica/Ride_The_Lightning/08_-_The_Call_Of_Ktulu.flac.
[17:51:46] <TK> Is it only a meteor when it's in our atmosphere?
[17:49:27] <SirFinkus> "A meteorite's size can range from small to extremely large" gee, thanks wikipedia
[17:48:28] <stderr> Blackmoore: If we're thinking outside the box and mention Cthulhu, we could also say "the greys".
[17:48:22] <SirFinkus> the biggest predator of dinosaurs was a meteorite
[17:46:14] <TK> And the biggest predators of dinosaurs were dinosaurs. They've already taken over!
[17:44:13] <SirFinkus> which is why we're running out of them
[17:43:41] <n1> they're so tasty though!
[17:42:48] <SirFinkus> tuna too, but we're probably going to run out of those
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[17:42:17] <SirFinkus> according to wikipedia, the biggest predators of jellyfish are other jellyfish
[17:42:10] <Blackmoore> giant squids. cthulu..
[17:39:56] <Blackmoore> bah. jellyfish are lunch to whaterev lives in the bottom of the pacific.
[17:38:23] <TK> once all the large sea turtles are gone
[17:38:20] <SirFinkus> they're already taking over the oceans a bit due to overfishing
[17:38:02] <TK> I could see it
[17:37:32] <SirFinkus> Jellyfish
[17:37:26] <Blackmoore> (then then get consumed as food)
[17:37:10] <Blackmoore> too hot, and Lizards and birds dominate - after a brief period of insectoids.
[17:36:32] <Blackmoore> if it does change.. well that can be odd. too cold and the birds get forced to the equator. whatever dominates has to be a cold climate creature
[17:35:27] <Blackmoore> see - i have to think about the climate if it doesnt change, I'm betting on Crows.
[17:32:57] <TK> Basically pirahna beetles
[17:32:53] <Blackmoore> mm. that's tough. are we assuming the climate is hoter? wetter?
[17:32:38] <TK> If roaches become a swarming, meat-eating locust-like problem, I would call them the winners
[17:31:51] <TK> Maybe we could settle on "top of the food chain"
[17:31:46] <Blackmoore> but not "intelegent" per say
[17:31:33] <TK> yes
[17:31:28] <TK> I guess that's fair
[17:31:28] <Blackmoore> dominant lifeform on the planet at the time. absolutly
[17:31:06] <Blackmoore> there isn't anyway we can qualify if dinosaurs used rocks or sticks as tools.
[17:30:28] <Blackmoore> lots of animals use tools
[17:25:56] <stderr> But ok, that's not an animal.
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[17:25:40] <stderr> Yersinia Pestis does pretty well without tools too...
[17:22:38] <TK> Dinosaurs did alright without tools
[17:22:30] <TK> They don't necessarily need to be a sentient, tool-using species to rule
[17:22:15] <TK> The specific question was "Which branch of kingdom animalia will become the next rulers of earth?"
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[17:11:27] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Thorium-Powered Cars - http://sylnt.us - how-many-miles-per-gram?
[17:08:27] <stderr> After a couple of bottles: I wonder if I can sign someone else up for the test and still get the bottle of win... Wine-wine...
[17:06:59] <stderr> I wonder if I can sign someone else up for the test and still get the bottle of wine... Win-win...
[17:06:56] <Cyprus> i'm thinking wildlings. The crows are screwed
[17:06:50] <Blackmoore> ah, torture by music. yes, I'll sign up.. and i'll be the guy who breaks the test.
[17:00:55] <stderr> Brylarke: As I wrote to one of my friends: I would need to get more than one bottle (and a corkscrew) a while before the test starts.
[16:59:57] <Brylarke> That is a dealbreaker
[16:59:42] <Brylarke> Do you get the booze before or after?
[16:59:39] <stderr> around 30 minutes."
[16:59:39] <stderr> a subset of songs on a specific emotion scale. The experiment will last
[16:59:39] <stderr> We are looking for about 50 participants who can help us listen to and rank
[16:59:39] <stderr> emotional content in the Eurovision Song Contest songs.
[16:59:39] <stderr> Quoting the email: "In connection with the research project CoSound, we are evaluating the
[16:59:29] <Woods> Booze for pain, nice.
[16:59:10] <Blackmoore> that is funny. I thought that classes go for longer times
[16:59:08] <stderr> Oh, you get a bottle of red wine, if you sign up...
[16:59:02] <Woods> Stderr: For monies?
[16:58:40] <stderr> Weird... The department I'm working for at uni. is looking for people who wants to be tortured for 30 minutes...
[16:58:28] <Blackmoore> i can't bet on the cockraoches. they fit too well as a scavenger. they have no reason to evolve
[16:53:45] <Woods> I think I want to change my choice from bears to crows. Blackmoore is on to something there. Those things are sneaky clever.
[16:52:21] <weeds> AndyTheAbsurd: Non human primates will be wiped out by the nukes or other global disaster that wipes out mankind. The insects, on the other hand...
[16:49:47] <Blackmoore> I think I'l put down something on Crows/ravens it's risky. no hands and all
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[16:18:43] <TK> insects in general: 3:5
[16:18:11] <TK> MrBluze: what're you banking on
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[16:17:34] <Woods> Roasted marshmallow jelly beans do not count.
[16:17:32] <TK> 1:100 on simians
[16:17:09] <Woods> I will be more impressed when that bonobo learns to make a factory that makes ROASTED marshmallows.
[16:16:35] <TK> I'll be impressed when they teach a bonobo to make a factory that makes marshmallows
[16:16:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> so my money's on non-human primates.
[16:16:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> and chimpanzees have been observed eating meat more and more often
[16:16:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> somebody taught a bonobo how to make a fire to roast marshmallows
[16:15:13] <weeds> Insecta -no contest!
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[16:11:07] <Woods> I am willing to take full credit.
[16:10:41] <SoyGnu> i gotta say, im impressed so far with soylent content
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[16:06:20] <deadbeef> karma - tk: 2
[16:06:20] <xlefay> TK++ :)
[16:06:04] <TK> 1:8 on reptilian politicians
[16:04:45] <xlefay> Politicians.. they oughta be around then, after all, they'll be the ones selling us out
[16:04:30] <TK> bears > cats
[16:04:08] <TK> 1:12 on cats
[16:03:42] <TK> If they can get their shit together and stop all the infighting
[16:03:17] <TK> 1:4 on ants
[16:02:39] <Brylarke> They are just biding their time, studying us and learning from our mistakes
[16:02:07] <Brylarke> Cats
[16:01:35] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Manufacturing Industrial Quantities of Graphene - http://sylnt.us
[16:01:34] <SirFinkus> ants
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[15:59:05] <TK> Unless you want to bet that no one survives
[15:58:50] <TK> Animal kingdom only
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[15:54:38] <SirFinkus> bacteria
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[15:50:32] <TK> animalia is a big kingdom
[15:50:18] <n1> in that case, you should be offering better odds.
[15:50:05] <xlefay> rofl ;-)
[15:49:46] <TK> Must be alive at the time to claim your winnings
[15:49:24] <TK> 1:3 odds on cockroaches and their descendents
[15:48:33] <xlefay> Sure
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[15:47:42] <TK> Do I hear cockroaches?
[15:47:15] <TK> 2:11 odds on bears
[15:46:45] <Woods> Bears.
[15:46:32] <TK> Taking all bets
[15:46:29] <TK> Which branch of kingdom animalia will become the next rulers of earth?
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[15:46:09] <TK> I don't remember the breakdown of kingdom, phylum, genus, etc.
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[15:40:31] <weeds> TK: :)
[15:39:54] <TK> and fish fossils with three eyes
[15:39:38] <TK> If we bomb ourselves to oblivion, future (reptilian?) paleontologists will wonder why there was such a massive die-off, followed by a rapid period of evolution
[15:38:38] <TK> Blowing it up may be a stretch. Unless we use an earthquake machine
[15:38:05] <Woods> mmhmm, indeed it will not.
[15:37:43] <weeds> Woods: that's a good image - I see kind of a men in black look and the explosions in the background. But really, in the time frames we are talking about, even that won't matter.
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[15:32:16] <Woods> Did I kill the chat? Sorry guys.
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[15:27:21] <Woods> Weeds: Then we will _make_ her remember us... *Puts on sunglasses and walks away from multiple nuclear explosions*
[15:27:17] <Brylarke> I'm sure we can find some way of blowing it apart
[15:27:02] <Brylarke> I dunno
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[15:22:30] <crutchy> night mrbluze
[15:21:23] <weeds> Mankind may not survive, but the earth will. We are but a blink of an eye on earth's time frame. in the millennia to come, she won't even remember us.
[15:17:31] * weeds reading current conversation
[15:12:44] <TK> Shouldn't it be MrBluzzze?
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[15:08:44] <MrBluze> nite xlefay
[15:07:50] <xlefay> G'night MrBluze
[15:07:50] <MrBluze> early start tomorrow :)
[15:07:46] <MrBluze> gnite everyone
[15:07:22] <Woods> Crutchy: Yesssss.... now I have something to listen to for 6 hours.
[15:07:02] <SedBot> <xlefay> crutchy, Yiruma is pretty awesome ;D
[15:07:02] <xlefay> s/yi/Yi/
[15:06:48] <xlefay> crutchy, yiruma is pretty awesome ;D
[15:06:36] <MrBluze> and the whistleblowers are the heroes of our time
[15:06:19] <MrBluze> well the light defeats the darkness.. truth unravels the plans of the wicked
[15:06:03] <crutchy> damn xlefay and his artist recommendations: https://www.youtube.com
[15:05:52] <n1> bbs
[15:05:49] <n1> good chat, MrBluze, but as Brylarke, depressing also
[15:05:43] <MrBluze> yeah it's depressing
[15:05:11] * Brylarke gets depressed
[15:05:02] * Brylarke reads up
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[15:03:39] <MrBluze> but if they did it now then they'd lose
[15:02:26] <MrBluze> there will be excess population reduction everywhere
[15:02:10] <MrBluze> if the US wins the war against the east, then there will be changes
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[15:01:38] <n1> while we're always chasing profit and growth
[15:01:33] <n1> i havn't lost hope, but i'm not seeing the direction changing
[15:00:52] <MrBluze> it can all go either way
[14:59:52] <MrBluze> into an ever growing biomass
[14:59:45] <xlefay> n1, it's true
[14:59:41] <MrBluze> if u spurt CO2 into the atmosphere, it will eventually be recaptured
[14:59:35] <n1> the urban sprawls are uninspiring and depressing
[14:59:34] <xlefay> That might be the very first quote I made that actually means something and isn't funny!
[14:59:24] <MrBluze> but remember conservation of mass
[14:59:23] <MrBluze> consume yes
[14:59:22] <deadbeef> Added quote 149
[14:59:22] <xlefay> !grab n1
[14:59:10] <n1> just that we destroy what we can, and we'd destroy more if we could, if we saw some value in it, we consume and consume, and we fight each other over who has the right to consume the most
[14:58:56] <MrBluze> so who is us then
[14:58:11] <n1> i'm not talking about that we're killing the world or some environmental thing
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[14:57:52] <MrBluze> no need to worry about it
[14:57:51] <xlefay> The truth is, as long as we keep using the current "legal" systems and such, nothing will ever really change
[14:57:51] <SoyCow6318> Specks
[14:57:42] <MrBluze> a speck
[14:57:39] <MrBluze> we're nothing on the world
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[14:56:53] <n1> I cant avoid the feeling sometimes, that the world would be far better off without us
[14:56:41] <n1> maybe
[14:56:26] <xlefay> _although_ it'd take care of the corruption problem and every other problem!
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[14:56:14] <xlefay> n1, I'm joking, obviously
[14:55:58] <n1> heh
[14:55:43] <xlefay> So our objective should be simple. Kill all humans.
[14:55:29] <MrBluze> yep xlefay that's why it won't stop
[14:55:03] <MrBluze> that's the real cause of wars usually - financial spheres of influence
[14:54:56] <xlefay> The corrupt politicians however, are the problem, as long as they exists will 'donating' make sense. And since Politicians are human and are so corrupt able as anyone else (depending on one's personal beliefs and how strongly one feels about it); I think the human race would first destroy itself before the chances of corruption is zilch
[14:54:44] <MrBluze> and if they are isolated from russia/china there will be war
[14:54:31] <MrBluze> but the english/us banking system is tied
[14:54:02] <n1> court/legal
[14:53:41] <n1> they also apparently like using our court system
[14:51:59] <n1> the russians are helping support our housing bubble and invest quite a lot into british financial services, and 'donate' to the UK political parties
[14:50:48] <n1> i know the UK is very friendly with Russia, if you ignore the empty words and look at the reality.
[14:50:43] <MrBluze> if this does not occur, the ties will only strengthen
[14:50:32] <MrBluze> .. they want germany to break ties
[14:50:13] <n1> but i dont know the german perspective
[14:49:56] <n1> i don't think that's likely to happen
[14:49:43] <MrBluze> that will result in a war if it occurs
[14:49:37] <MrBluze> the disaster for the west could result from germany forming closer economic and political ties with russia
[14:49:29] <n1> but made it very clear, trade and the stock markets would not be affected in any way
[14:49:18] <n1> resulting in some weeks ago the 'strong sanctions' against russia, which were some travel restrictions on high profile travel
[14:49:14] <MrBluze> and UK won't be happy if scotland turns its taps off too
[14:49:03] <MrBluze> indeed no
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[14:48:40] <n1> and i don't think europe would be that impressed if russia turns off the gas tap
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[14:48:27] <n1> indeed
[14:48:24] <MrBluze> but the west cannot do it
[14:48:20] <MrBluze> russia is used to running on a shoestring
[14:48:03] <MrBluze> but the point is tho that, in judo, the weaker one wins by doing less
[14:47:46] <MrBluze> well he'd say that
[14:47:35] <n1> i think Putin even made the point that the US can't do shit, because we're all interconnected, so if they hurt Russia, they'll be hurting US interests just as much
[14:47:31] <MrBluze> and so on
[14:47:21] <MrBluze> gadhafi had enough gold reserves and the central bank there was independent
[14:47:06] <MrBluze> saddam went off the petrodollar
[14:46:58] <MrBluze> well yeah
[14:46:38] <n1> you're shutting the doors to multinationals, and that's not allowed
[14:46:03] <n1> so it's essentially state backed terrorism, for a nation to try and obtain economic independence
[14:45:45] <n1> their 'economic indepdendence' is ultra-nationalist and a threat to global stability and is against our economic interests
[14:45:44] <MrBluze> so, russia / china are allies by this single attribute - brics basically, and according to old fashioned economic theory they are going to win
[14:45:02] <MrBluze> and reveals the game plan
[14:45:00] <n1> indeed
[14:44:55] <MrBluze> every country that tries to get economic independence gets targeted, that's the basic rule
[14:44:40] <n1> the rest of it is just very empty rhetoric about democracy and freedom
[14:44:30] <n1> the only time there is, when it's about investment and business
[14:44:28] <MrBluze> any nation that refuses to accept an internationally controlled central bank gets invaded
[14:44:22] <n1> but there's clearly no meaning behind them
[14:44:13] <n1> i dont think they try and the moral high ground, they say the words
[14:44:11] <MrBluze> world domination
[14:43:52] <MrBluze> but its getting so transparent the west is having trouble keeping any kind of pants-on moral high-ground
[14:43:49] <n1> which is?
[14:43:29] <MrBluze> there is a greater end to it all
[14:43:22] <MrBluze> well.. sorta
[14:42:38] <n1> and if we sell them enough, maybe they'll make some 'reforms' regarding human rights
[14:42:26] <n1> it's just business... they have money to buy, and for a change we have something to sell
[14:40:58] <MrBluze> oh.. yeah well it's proxy war as a rule regarding arms trade
[14:40:30] <MrBluze> china should be nearly ready with their submarine fleet now
[14:40:29] <n1> for their 'anti-terror' operations
[14:40:22] <n1> to sell the british defence industry to governments like bahrain
[14:40:14] <MrBluze> well it's getting to a pointy end now with all of this stuff
[14:40:11] <n1> the UK PM made comments about another MP supporting a dictatorship, after he'd had a trip to the middle east
[14:39:39] <MrBluze> that's it
[14:39:27] <n1> extreme injustice and dictatorship is OK, as long as it's friendly to western business and military interests
[14:39:06] <n1> bahrain is a good example, as with saudi arabia and some of the other arab states
[14:38:59] <MrBluze> they have bases built there now - they wont withdraw except by force
[14:38:50] <MrBluze> well of course
[14:38:40] <n1> i read something the other day about the US pressuring Afghan government for troops staying on after the deadline
[14:38:26] <MrBluze> yet in countries with extreme injustice like bahrain (afaik) it's business as usual thank you very much
[14:38:02] <MrBluze> well in all those countries there was relative (albeit grim) peace
[14:37:19] <n1> it's not good business to invade syria
[14:37:12] <n1> they don't like syria, but syria has a powerful friend in russia, so as many humanitarian reasons as there are
[14:36:35] <MrBluze> and they never got rid of all the chem weapons
[14:36:32] <n1> the US military machine might be more than 10x that of Russia, but when it was a million times that of afghanistan and iraq, it didn't help.
[14:36:21] <MrBluze> yeah syria hmm .. they hoped to weaken russia
[14:35:28] <n1> hence syria
[14:35:25] <n1> because you dont want that fight anyway
[14:35:24] <MrBluze> but the plan is that if (when) the US collapses, there will be a war in the americas with the ultimate aim of a single american economic zone
[14:35:20] <n1> but the military supremacy doesn't really matter if you're taking on another world power
[14:34:52] <MrBluze> and their military supremacy is a narrow time window
[14:34:43] <MrBluze> they are on a tight schedule because money is running out
[14:34:41] <n1> arnt they always?
[14:34:24] <MrBluze> the US is in a hurry
[14:33:53] <n1> whereas the US likes to go all in on the first call
[14:33:43] <n1> Russia seems to be working by degrees, a baby step every day
[14:33:37] <MrBluze> very clumsy work in ukraine
[14:33:25] <MrBluze> well i think the US has overplayed its hand
[14:33:13] <n1> and knows how to push without reaching breaking point
[14:33:03] <n1> Putin is doing business very well, I think he's been observing international diplomacy for the last decade or so
[14:32:25] <MrBluze> and it does appear that their moves have been worked out in advance and are being cut off
[14:32:07] <MrBluze> yeah .. the big problem is the US has been pwned
[14:31:47] <n1> there are more leaks to come, even from snowden afaik
[14:31:26] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Record Labels Claim MP3s Too Good to Resell - http://sylnt.us - Steaming-Pile-of-Bullocks
[14:31:26] <MrBluze> snowden is the tip of the iceberg of data leakage
[14:31:13] <MrBluze> yes
[14:30:40] <n1> but from what i see, Putin is winning.
[14:30:35] <n1> i havn't been following the Ukraine situation as closely as I perhaps should
[14:30:03] <MrBluze> since the game has proceeded to the ukraine
[14:29:42] <MrBluze> .. it's all set to change
[14:29:40] <n1> it's all good
[14:29:38] <n1> and enough to get a overseas vacation
[14:29:31] <n1> as long as we still have enough access to credit to finance a new car every 3 or 4 years
[14:28:46] <MrBluze> but the people who knew about this had snuck out years earlier
[14:28:29] <MrBluze> problem is once you decide you want to go outside, you find the door is locked
[14:28:11] <n1> or it will be better for us, as the market will use the data to help offer us better things/what we want
[14:27:56] <MrBluze> so they dont care
[14:27:54] <n1> the default assumption is it's in our best interests, as it's our spy agencies doing it
[14:27:54] <MrBluze> aussies are well fed
[14:27:41] <MrBluze> with daylight robbery etc
[14:27:33] <Konomi> same in kangaroo land here
[14:27:31] <MrBluze> the brits are a long suffering people
[14:27:17] <n1> it might vary by country, but in the UK it seems literally no one gives a shit
[14:27:05] <Konomi> and goes to stupid land
[14:27:02] <n1> i've been amazed at the apathy surrounding the situation regarding all the data being collected by private and government interests
[14:27:00] <Konomi> about once every 30 years society gets collective amnesia
[14:26:25] <n1> lol
[14:25:45] <MrBluze> if you have nothing to hide... you're pretty damn boring
[14:25:25] <n1> if you have nothing to hide...
[14:25:25] <MrBluze> but most ppl have been pretty naive to it unfortunately .. they never believed it when it was said to them
[14:24:57] <MrBluze> ppl who fought in the cold war knew about this very early on
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[14:21:01] <MrBluze> the sad thing is i dont sound like a paranoid idiot anymore
[14:20:09] <MrBluze> and it's already matched to who we are
[14:20:01] <MrBluze> they will collect every line typed here
[14:19:53] <MrBluze> all the more
[14:19:50] <MrBluze> right
[14:19:46] <Konomi> differnce is they do it to everyone now ;p
[14:19:39] <MrBluze> even in the 80's
[14:19:31] <MrBluze> a person of 10 years age could have volumes of collected data
[14:19:11] <Konomi> well I use otr+ pidgin now ;p
[14:19:09] <MrBluze> in the days before computers, intel agencies collected every newspaper clipping, every report, every word you spoke in public, if you were a person of interest, or a relative, or a distant relative even
[14:18:24] <MrBluze> that's just sloppy
[14:18:23] <Konomi> unless you download your info you wouldn't know either
[14:18:11] <Konomi> in facebook there is no off xD
[14:18:02] <MrBluze> the memory hole
[14:18:00] <Konomi> but it definitly stops saving the chats
[14:17:58] <MrBluze> u can turn it off for yourself - but not to them
[14:17:56] <Konomi> well if it actually goes off that is
[14:17:45] <Konomi> you can turn it off on google
[14:17:41] <MrBluze> everyone does it .. assume it
[14:17:37] <MrBluze> google does it
[14:17:27] <Konomi> the rest I expected
[14:17:22] <Konomi> I knew they were bad but I didn't think they'd save every single chat message and login time >.>
[14:16:55] <MrBluze> it's what u come to expect from someone called zuckerberg
[14:16:54] <Konomi> chat messages and all
[14:16:51] <Konomi> they save everything else
[14:16:47] <Konomi> the only thing they don't save is removed photos and videos
[14:16:44] <MrBluze> yep
[14:16:39] <Konomi> friends removed
[14:16:35] <Konomi> login times ip address browser info
[14:16:28] <Konomi> your chats
[14:16:26] <Konomi> they save everything
[14:16:20] <Konomi> whichwill be at all now
[14:16:17] <Konomi> I have one I don't use often
[14:16:04] <MrBluze> ? never had an account
[14:15:47] <Konomi> anyone here ever downloaded their facebook data?
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[14:13:31] * MrBluze used to have to code so much of this himself
[14:13:02] <MrBluze> and it takes any data type at all
[14:12:37] <MrBluze> filemaker has list systems and so on so u can control the contents of fields, either as relational keys like normal db's, or via very very easy to set up validators either from other tables, external files, any source nearly
[14:10:43] <MrBluze> ;)
[14:10:10] <xlefay> MrBluze, now, I'm sorry I wasn't around to !grab that
[14:09:22] <xlefay> "many to many" lol!
[14:09:03] <MrBluze> lol
[14:08:29] <xlefay> You guys had a lot of kinkyness going on hah
[14:08:16] <xlefay> I bet :D
[14:08:13] <xlefay> I just re-attached to my bnc lol, you guys were distractful lol :P
[14:07:58] <MrBluze> filemaker is proving to be very nice
[14:07:39] <MrBluze> hi btw
[14:07:08] <MrBluze> i dont really have a brain so that suits me
[14:06:59] <MrBluze> yeah
[14:06:39] <xlefay> also, php's so popular because it's so damn easy and it really doesn't require a brain unless you want to do it right
[14:05:10] <SedBot> <xlefay> By having the Django bindings first, you'll be able to pick up Django much faster, least that's what I think ;)
[14:05:10] <xlefay> s/using/having/
[14:05:00] <xlefay> By using the Django bindings first, you'll be able to pick up Django much faster, least that's what I think ;)
[14:04:41] <xlefay> MrBluze, I'd still recommend you'll try the PyCharm trial first (it has Django stuff built in, the community version doesn't); get some familiarity with Django, then switch off to the community edition or buy a license ;)
[14:03:26] <xlefay> Biggest difference between ST and PyCharm is that ST isn't an IDE (even though, it's awesome [I bought a license a long time ago!] you can make it just be that but in it's core, it'll just remain a text editor); whereas PyCharm is a full blown (awesome) IDE
[13:52:01] <MrBluze> but if i do make something production standard i'll pay it
[13:51:57] <MrBluze> $100 is a fair bit
[13:51:46] <MrBluze> yes that too
[13:51:01] <Brylarke> More cool now that they have made stuff available for the community instead of being prohibitively expensive
[13:50:37] <Brylarke> Yeah
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[13:35:37] <MrBluze> kinda cool company for making so much useful stuff
[13:35:15] <MrBluze> jetbrains
[13:35:07] <MrBluze> oh. they make pycharm
[13:34:46] <MrBluze> interesting
[13:33:16] <Brylarke> Well, by that I mean it has a free version
[13:33:03] <Brylarke> And less bloated
[13:32:55] <Brylarke> IntelliJ is also free now
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[13:28:20] <MrBluze> i mean for something that's free
[13:27:44] <MrBluze> eclipse is good though
[13:27:36] <MrBluze> oh
[13:26:14] <Brylarke> Funnily enough IntelliJ seems to work fine
[13:25:41] <Brylarke> I can get eclipse running for about 3 minutes on my netbook before crashing
[13:24:02] <MrBluze> but it worked
[13:24:01] <MrBluze> that was massively bloated
[13:23:55] <MrBluze> i started php with eclipse
[13:16:05] <MrBluze> ah ok
[13:15:59] <Brylarke> There is a python plugin but dunno if it includes django
[13:15:27] <Brylarke> But usually that's just good enough for my needs
[13:15:12] <Brylarke> No, sublime just auto completes certain symbols as you use them, it doesn't have language support unless you find plugins
[13:14:32] <MrBluze> i mean in its .. whatever its called, class manager or whatever
[13:14:06] <MrBluze> and django stuff.. does it include that?
[13:12:56] <SirFinkus> sublime's fuzzy autocomplete is awesome
[13:08:47] <MrBluze> i'll look at it
[13:08:28] <Brylarke> Yeah, sublime is good enough at that really
[13:08:04] <MrBluze> and half type everything and press tab and move on
[13:07:56] <MrBluze> whereas i like not to have to remember stuff much
[13:07:45] <MrBluze> fair enough
[13:07:19] <Brylarke> But then I do development on a netbook and am sensitive to bloated ides
[13:07:13] <SedBot> <MrBluze> im early in the piece with python
[13:07:13] <MrBluze> s/pythin/python/
[13:07:09] * SedBot offers MrBloze a /
[13:07:09] <MrBluze> s/pythin/python
[13:07:04] <MrBluze> im early in the piece with pythin
[13:06:25] <Brylarke> I haven't had much luck with pycharm
[13:05:52] <MrBluze> or pycharm by the looks of things
[13:05:39] * Brylarke frowns
[13:05:27] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[13:05:26] <Brylarke> Like sublime
[13:05:22] <Brylarke> Yeah, good ides
[13:02:14] <MrBluze> things are always changing
[13:02:03] <MrBluze> and good ide's
[13:01:54] <MrBluze> that's just it, django
[13:00:48] <Brylarke> And now we are no longer in a world solely full of free php hosts
[13:00:20] <Brylarke> I used to think that until I realised how easy it is to set stuff up like django these days
[12:59:57] <Brylarke> Hmm
[12:59:23] <MrBluze> faster meaning faster to get started
[12:58:58] <MrBluze> but php is better straight off the bat - faster .. and it's not a mistake it's as popular as it is for this reason
[12:58:40] <MrBluze> i think once it's set up and working it can be better than php
[12:58:26] <MrBluze> ;)
[12:58:18] <MrBluze> i didnt say it wasnt
[12:57:28] <Brylarke> <MrBluze> but i think python is better for non-web type stuff <- why is it not better for web type stuff too?
[12:57:23] <SirFinkus> hehe, guess what I'm doing this week
[12:57:17] <SirFinkus> http://livingcomputermuseum.tumblr.com
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[12:52:11] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Analysis of Russia's New Military Model - http://sylnt.us - New-New-Model-Army
[12:49:24] <MrBluze> but i think python is better for non-web type stuff
[12:48:57] <MrBluze> i am used to php
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[12:45:10] <SoyGnu> i chose python as well
[12:45:01] <SoyGnu> they use perl at my $DAYJOB so i had no choice but to learn something
[12:44:38] <MrBluze> cause i need to teach it to the kids also
[12:44:32] <MrBluze> i decided to learn python instead of perl
[12:44:25] <crutchy> why it's in xml directory? meh it's slash... does there need to be a reason?
[12:43:57] <crutchy> that's prolly perl mrbluze
[12:43:56] <SoyGnu> i tackle some perl code before... but im by no means expert or even knowledgeable
[12:43:50] <MrBluze> crutchy: i havent looked at the code in ages ... would u know where abouts it is?
[12:43:25] <MrBluze> but probably its a perl script somewhere with a similar name
[12:43:14] <MrBluze> yes, that'll be roughly the right place
[12:43:06] <crutchy> \ahh
[12:43:01] * crutchy recommends sagasu
[12:42:52] <SoyGnu> i found this Slash/XML/RSS/RSS.pm
[12:42:44] <MrBluze> oh okay
[12:42:41] <MrBluze> it's just like all the other OS projects now
[12:42:35] <SoyGnu> yeah... i downloaded the code... i mean point me in the right direction within the code
[12:42:22] <MrBluze> :)
[12:42:19] <MrBluze> .. and u can make a commit and push for its approval
[12:42:02] <MrBluze> via github
[12:41:59] <MrBluze> and u can update it to current soylentnews code
[12:41:51] <SoyGnu> i dowloaded the code
[12:41:43] <crutchy> it's out the door on your left :-P
[12:41:35] <SoyGnu> but it should be promotted imho
[12:41:31] <MrBluze> there is a dev server u can download in a virtual machine
[12:41:30] <SoyGnu> priority in the issues is wishlist
[12:41:10] <SoyGnu> if you point me the right direction i can take a look
[12:41:06] <MrBluze> but depends on where it sits in the priorities of easy but innumerable jobs to do
[12:40:51] <MrBluze> no, wouldn't be that difficult
[12:40:46] <SoyGnu> day jobs? outrageous
[12:40:39] <MrBluze> ;)
[12:40:25] <MrBluze> but in the land where the volunteers have day jobs
[12:40:23] <SoyGnu> should*
[12:40:12] <SoyGnu> it shouldnt be that difficult, whould it?
[12:40:11] <MrBluze> in the land of instant and free results, fantastic
[12:39:47] <SoyGnu> so... hows the status of the improvements of the rss feed?
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[12:32:37] <crutchy> you have performed an illegal operation and will be shut down
[12:25:44] <MrBluze> open the pod bay doors hal
[12:25:34] <MrBluze> oo
[12:21:10] <kobach> i am cyberdyne systems model 101
[12:17:18] <MrBluze> bbak
[11:57:45] <MrBluze> what's your job like arti?
[11:54:39] * arti likes t800s, bestest terminators
[11:54:21] <MrBluze> T2 says to T1 .. what, in front of all these people?
[11:54:11] <MrBluze> T1 says to T2 .. its time we got something straight between us
[11:54:10] <arti> my quest for propaganda must resume tomorrow
[11:54:00] * arti must sleep
[11:53:50] <crutchy> are you thinking what i'm thinking b1?
[11:53:36] <arti> "bert" "ernie"
[11:53:25] <crutchy> actually there's usually /dev/tita and /dev/titb
[11:53:06] <arti> faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa *deep breath* aaaaaaaaaaaat
[11:53:05] <crutchy> hmm
[11:52:49] <crutchy> /dev/tit
[11:52:43] <MrBluze> they have sweet stuff in them that never runs out
[11:52:42] <arti> sacks of fat otherweise
[11:52:33] <arti> cd cleaners perhaps
[11:52:24] <crutchy> maybe female chests are the ultimate storage devices
[11:52:10] <crutchy> i don't know how they cram so much fun in them
[11:51:50] * arti puts tools in his chests
[11:51:50] <crutchy> fun
[11:51:41] <arti> crutchy, why, what do you store in them?
[11:51:31] * crutchy prefers female chests without phonebooks
[11:51:26] * arti awkwardly laughs
[11:51:21] <arti> not that i know this first hand
[11:51:14] <arti> yeah, i've leased out apartments to people
[11:51:08] <MrBluze> kind of like wipe
[11:50:53] <MrBluze> uhm yes
[11:50:48] <arti> well indirectly
[11:50:45] <arti> oh, like when you put the phonebook on the chest, and then use a sledge hammer on the person
[11:50:45] <crutchy> they're not very civil
[11:50:35] <crutchy> hmm wonder who it/me is?
[11:50:27] <MrBluze> bash uses phonebooks to prevent leaving any evidence
[11:50:21] <crutchy> it/me bashes arti
[11:50:12] * arti hides
[11:50:05] <arti> "bash uses phonebooks to sit on to be equal to other shells"
[11:49:53] <MrBluze> phonebooks.cpp
[11:49:45] <MrBluze> bash uses phonebooks
[11:49:22] <crutchy> lol
[11:49:20] <arti> rails are what you snort
[11:49:15] <arti> implying it isn't already
[11:49:13] <MrBluze> who needs rails
[11:49:08] <MrBluze> ruby on crack
[11:49:07] <arti> okay viking
[11:49:00] <crutchy> i prefer bash
[11:48:44] <MrBluze> whips and chains
[11:48:42] <arti> "our handy command line tool is known as lash, and the exception handler is known as the tickler"
[11:48:40] <MrBluze> lol actually yes
[11:48:17] <arti> "i'm going to whip something up"
[11:48:13] <arti> might be a cool idea for a framework
[11:48:12] <crutchy> ooh someone mentioned whips?
[11:48:00] <arti> hahaha
[11:45:36] <MrBluze> is that a c++ library? ;)
[11:45:20] <deadbeef> karma - whips: 1
[11:45:20] <MrBluze> whips++
[11:45:08] * arti recommends whips
[11:45:00] <MrBluze> mainly to speed up the workflow that i am in charge of
[11:44:43] <MrBluze> work on end-user software
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[11:42:54] <MrBluze> programming on the side
[11:42:35] <MrBluze> yeah partly
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[11:40:04] <arti> do you do logistics or something?
[11:36:19] <MrBluze> when disaster doesnt strike
[11:36:12] <MrBluze> i like my job
[11:36:01] <MrBluze> ;)
[11:34:16] * arti finds dictation extremely tiring
[11:34:04] <MrBluze> lol
[11:34:00] <arti> it mangles stuff :D
[11:33:53] * arti uses dragon naturally speaking for that
[11:33:42] <arti> sounds pretty awesome
[11:32:48] <MrBluze> i just bark orders and walk around and look at stuff
[11:32:40] <MrBluze> my assistant does the writing and the doing
[11:32:28] <MrBluze> lol
[11:32:14] <arti> "assistant! call so-and-so for me!"
[11:31:55] <arti> mfw your assistant is a plushy
[11:31:33] <MrBluze> i just give the chair to my assistant and i do all the standing and walking around
[11:31:12] * arti spends far too much time at the helm
[11:31:12] <MrBluze> yeah it totally is
[11:31:05] <arti> ugh, the chair is the real killer
[11:30:56] <MrBluze> yeah same.. not eating shit from a packet anymore, no snacks, stand up most of the day - kicked the chair away
[11:30:33] <MrBluze> hm since march
[11:30:31] <arti> nice, i'm eating much better
[11:30:16] <MrBluze> yeah i have lost already 7kg.. got 5 to go
[11:30:01] <arti> ~15kg
[11:30:01] <MrBluze> and otherwise 7 minutes of exercise looks after the rest
[11:29:54] <arti> i've got a bit more diet changes to make prior to the abs showing
[11:29:45] <MrBluze> i row for my back and legs
[11:29:41] <arti> well two of them
[11:29:34] <MrBluze> that's cool
[11:29:24] <arti> yeah, had a friend show me some neat exercises, and i've been using his
[11:29:07] <MrBluze> regaining my sixpack lol .. havent had it for 10 years
[11:28:42] <MrBluze> now i just do HIT and rowing
[11:28:32] <MrBluze> i used to
[11:28:29] <MrBluze> u do weights
[11:27:51] <arti> and didn't remember until earlier today
[11:27:47] <arti> i totally forgot the last time i was out, i remembered, and then became distracted
[11:27:33] * arti needs to buy another weight
[11:27:23] <MrBluze> i'll do some more rowing later
[11:27:18] <MrBluze> lol yes
[11:27:12] <arti> i think it's a new dimension of the cam whore industry
[11:27:03] <MrBluze> 3d printed babies
[11:26:51] <arti> "i just sent you my file!"
[11:26:50] <MrBluze> just use clag
[11:26:45] <arti> lol
[11:26:42] <MrBluze> 3d printed come .. hmm
[11:26:26] <MrBluze> i did some rowing
[11:26:21] <MrBluze> oh
[11:17:56] <arti> how was the exercise?
[11:16:25] <arti> apparently the 3d printed?
[11:16:07] <MrBluze> which come isnt white?
[10:55:52] <arti> they both work
[10:55:46] <SedBot> <arti> most come in white
[10:55:46] <arti> s/is/in/
[10:55:19] <arti> most come is white
[10:55:07] <chromas> Do they come in color yet?
[10:51:47] <arti> arti 3D-printed a 3D printer capable of 3D-printing a more powerful 3D printer.
[10:48:35] <arti> a problem that solves itself
[10:48:29] <arti> sounds like they've thought of everything
[10:48:25] <chromas> Bender's still cruel
[10:48:09] <chromas> Bender could use a !quote-random function. Doesn't give help for grabquote and the domain linked is expired :-(
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[10:39:18] <chromas> bool ask(char question) return(false); // Thanks to Betteridge for this code
[10:38:20] <MrBluze> back l8r
[10:37:44] <MrBluze> while( isfood()) { bite(); for( i=0; i<10; i++) { chew(); } swallow(); } wipe_mouth(); ask("may I leave the table");
[10:37:22] * arti claps
[10:37:09] <MrBluze> while( isfood()) { bite(); for( i=0; i<10; i++) { chew(); } }
[10:33:23] <arti> foreach($mouthful as $bite) { $bite->chew(); }
[10:32:57] <arti> chew.sh
[10:32:41] <arti> MrBluze: don't forget to chew 10 times
[10:32:33] <crutchy> enjoy
[10:32:28] <arti> yeah, but i only go in there on thursdays
[10:32:23] <MrBluze> back later - dinner
[10:32:02] <MrBluze> arti: that room exists in fact
[10:28:48] <MrBluze> fsck /dev/beta
[10:28:21] <arti> in that case, i'll get the lotion
[10:28:17] <chromas> wininit
[10:28:08] <MrBluze> many to many etc
[10:28:06] <MrBluze> we havent even gone into databases
[10:27:51] <arti> i think this should move to #orgy
[10:27:32] <MrBluze> rm -r clothes/
[10:26:58] <chromas> .gz
[10:26:48] <chromas> tar xf MrBluze/pants
[10:26:38] <MrBluze> tar feathers.png
[10:25:56] <MrBluze> unzip pants.zip
[10:24:23] <xlefay> unsee --all *
[10:24:17] <arti> we were all in college once
[10:24:02] <xlefay> arti, you sure did blew it the second time :P
[10:23:58] <chromas> strip --strip-all -vvvvvv *
[10:23:44] <arti> i was right the first time
[10:23:39] <MrBluze> ;)
[10:23:37] <MrBluze> no one can resist crutchy's glowballs
[10:23:28] <arti> mouthes
[10:23:16] <arti> its all fun and games until you realize how many other mouths have been on those
[10:22:57] <arti> hah
[10:22:50] <crutchy> we should hire some strpos
[10:22:37] <arti> logmessage lines seem to obfusicate code
[10:22:21] <arti> it's all about the print_r
[10:21:54] <crutchy> it took a var_dump
[10:21:37] <xlefay> Did exec choke on ya nuts arti ?
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[10:20:35] * MrBluze throws an exception at arti's nuts
[10:20:15] <xlefay> LOL
[10:19:55] * crutchy doesn't mention var_dump
[10:19:52] <arti> crutchy, hey everybody wins
[10:19:34] <MrBluze> try { arti.nuts.nibble(); } catch( e ) { printf("I take exception to that!\n"); }
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[10:18:55] <crutchy> arti... that is just wrong :-P
[10:18:42] <arti> terrible
[10:18:34] <arti> hahaha
[10:18:26] <crutchy> lol
[10:18:20] * arti gets the peanut butter
[10:18:13] <MrBluze> chocolate salted nuts
[10:17:57] <chromas> Nah, I already got the salt off so I'm done
[10:17:44] <MrBluze> nibble nobby's nuts before he nibbles yours
[10:17:14] <crutchy> chromas: you shouldn't talk with your mouth full of arti's nuts
[10:17:07] <chromas> You know, like blue waffles
[10:17:03] <MrBluze> i wasnt going to feed the kitten
[10:16:00] <chromas> He was hoping for a double entendre
[10:15:14] <arti> i think they drink milk
[10:13:54] * MrBluze looks up some kitten recipes
[10:13:52] <arti> careful, shells laddo
[10:13:35] * chromas eats arti's nuts
[10:13:17] * arti shares some nuts
[10:13:14] <arti> nice
[10:12:55] * MrBluze found some dry fruit, fwiw
[10:12:35] <deadbeef> karma - poutine: -336
[10:12:35] <MrBluze> poutine--
[10:03:43] <arti> hahaha
[10:03:31] <chromas> Didn't notice the poutine reference before
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[09:59:34] <arti> you guys get hex channels or something?
[09:59:19] <crutchy> i can't work the telly cos there's no uppercase numbers
[09:59:15] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[09:58:49] <arti> good, wash your hands then, this is a movie
[09:58:40] <crutchy> no i don't listen to hip hop
[09:58:25] <arti> crutchy, have you seen super troopers?
[09:58:12] <crutchy> or frapped
[09:58:04] <arti> your fingers are just big boned
[09:57:51] <crutchy> if i could type proplierlky
[09:57:43] <arti> they just love germans
[09:57:34] <arti> lol
[09:57:30] <crutchy> it probably turn french cicks on
[09:57:23] <arti> :D
[09:57:08] <crutchy> i think so
[09:56:59] <arti> is that the german sound for fapping?
[09:56:48] <crutchy> so is frappe
[09:56:41] <arti> "hey sup, i'm mayor!"
[09:56:27] <arti> burgermeister is a cool name
[09:56:13] <crutchy> there was no mention of hamburgers so i had no idea what it says
[09:56:02] <xlefay> auch
[09:55:02] <arti> gas bill /joke
[09:54:52] <crutchy> oh crap i mentioned zi war
[09:54:33] <arti> deutsche frauen sind die beste frauen :P
[09:54:14] <crutchy> is that a ww2 site?
[09:53:58] <arti> http://german-bash.org
[09:53:48] <xlefay> The QOTD @ Slashcode's are from fortune ;-)
[09:53:38] <xlefay> I'm planning on writing a small QDB site, where people can upvote/downvote quotes, and the best liked quotes will get added :D
[09:53:18] <xlefay> crutchy, actually, that's the plan for SN
[09:53:11] <arti> xlefay: wait until i eat mcdonalds
[09:53:01] <xlefay> That'll sound so nasty one day
[09:52:48] <deadbeef> Added quote 148
[09:52:48] <xlefay> !grab arti
[09:52:45] <crutchy> hmm maybe we should add bender's quotes to some kind of fortune file
[09:52:39] <arti> "hey look, i'm leaking. time to restart myself"
[09:52:38] <xlefay> haha
[09:52:28] <arti> apache does this :D
[09:52:23] <arti> well, just have the process fork itself
[09:51:25] <xlefay> crutchy, or die trying ;-)
[09:51:24] <arti> "kill it, until it dies guys"
[09:51:19] <arti> that's a pro tip
[09:51:11] <crutchy> by killing him till he dies from it?
[09:50:59] <arti> in a funny way, obviously
[09:50:53] * arti would have that jester shot
[09:50:37] <exec> -- Spider Robinson
[09:50:37] <exec> I'm going to live forever, or die trying!
[09:50:36] <arti> rofl
[09:50:32] <deadbeef> karma - exec: 2
[09:50:32] <xlefay> exec++ you keep going buddy
[09:50:22] <xlefay> Seriously? WTF
[09:50:17] <crutchy> hahaha
[09:50:05] <xlefay> LOL!!
[09:49:57] <exec> -- in #debian-devel
[09:49:57] <exec> advice
[09:49:56] <exec> < sam> /.ing an issue is like asking an infinite number of monkeys for
[09:49:56] <xlefay> rofl
[09:49:38] * arti does finger poking gesture
[09:49:24] <arti> porking.
[09:49:13] <arti> is that what happens to women in india?
[09:49:12] <xlefay> oh my
[09:49:02] <crutchy> might be a raod train
[09:48:45] <arti> semi trailer = half roll
[09:48:28] <arti> well did.
[09:48:28] <crutchy> there's probably a semi trailer in the way :-P
[09:48:25] * arti is speechless
[09:48:19] <xlefay> That's nasty
[09:48:18] <arti> :|
[09:48:15] <xlefay> lol!
[09:47:54] <crutchy> traffic must be tight
[09:47:48] <xlefay> crutchy, damn it didn't pay it's rent?
[09:47:34] <arti> means.
[09:47:29] <arti> crutchy, that mean's something is honking for the right of way
[09:47:19] <xlefay> currently oranges.. I'm no fan of them so
[09:47:19] <crutchy> i've got a fart brewing
[09:47:02] <xlefay> arti, we've got fruit in a basket downstairs actually
[09:46:52] <arti> "this is 1 litre of nothing"
[09:46:51] <crutchy> scriptify all the internal commands
[09:46:37] <arti> xlefay: do you keep it in a jar?
[09:46:23] <xlefay> hmm yea I got nothing
[09:46:22] <crutchy> i'm gunna strip a bunch of shit out of exec tonight
[09:46:10] <arti> :D
[09:45:56] <arti> my favorite is finding dried fruit
[09:45:50] <arti> "treasure hunting"
[09:45:44] <arti> or was it a morsel of food which has escaped into a fold?
[09:45:20] <xlefay> LOL
[09:45:16] * arti watches as mrbluze scratches his back
[09:45:04] <xlefay> MrBluze, I bet ;-)
[09:44:59] <MrBluze> back soon .. exercise
[09:44:56] <xlefay> I just love how exec just "randomly" comes out of the wood work to share a fortune with us
[09:44:33] <xlefay> Depending on the context..
[09:44:32] <arti> or more of a finger guy
[09:44:28] <arti> do you use ice tea spoons?
[09:44:19] <crutchy> purge is fun though
[09:44:09] <deadbeef> karma - exec: 1
[09:44:08] <xlefay> exec++
[09:44:01] <exec> "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of purge."
[09:44:00] <xlefay> rofl
[09:43:52] <arti> yeah, i think those are 50% off now
[09:43:42] <xlefay> Just think of all the possible easter eggs!
[09:43:38] * arti has alcohol and bong loads for the stress
[09:43:32] <arti> as long as the pay is decent, it's fun
[09:43:23] <crutchy> i hope to have nothing to do with it :-D
[09:43:17] * arti enjoys when its a never ending project
[09:43:13] <xlefay> crutchy, they should hire us
[09:43:05] <arti> sweet
[09:43:02] <crutchy> apparently my work is getting a new website redesign
[09:42:56] <xlefay> Popeidol, and then they say JS is bad ;-)
[09:42:36] <arti> ugh 70s pants are back with the high waist
[09:42:32] <xlefay> arti, Thank you, I'll steer clear of those!
[09:42:27] <Popeidol> xlefay: it's now retro and cool again
[09:42:26] * arti came across one
[09:42:20] <arti> check out hair products
[09:42:15] <xlefay> Surprisingly, I haven't visited any recently
[09:42:13] <arti> xlefay, heh
[09:42:02] <xlefay> You just gotta love those people who still use flash to build websites these days
[09:41:54] <arti> seizure*
[09:41:43] * arti was fond of siezure robots
[09:41:27] <MrBluze> flashing gifs
[09:41:26] <arti> good old flash
[09:41:18] <xlefay> arti, because it's so amazingly excessive :P
[09:41:02] <xlefay> You can make it appear as if a real porn site loads and then take it away just before it's supposed to blur out
[09:40:36] <arti> on:hover :D
[09:40:31] <arti> just use CSS!
[09:40:28] <xlefay> crutchy, ooh, how about FLASH!
[09:40:18] <crutchy> and some js to make the text move out of the way when y7ou try to click it
[09:40:12] * arti o.o
[09:39:40] <xlefay> "Dammit why isn't this link working?" (of course, you'll need to use some CSS to make it appear as if it's really a link, naturally
[09:39:12] <xlefay> crutchy, I know XD
[09:39:05] <xlefay> MrBluze, I don't know why they set restrictions I suspect they use some old internal system and shit that enforces them
[09:38:45] <crutchy> i was thinking of there being no link
[09:38:38] <MrBluze> lol
[09:38:29] <xlefay> crutchy, that's just baiting them lol!
[09:38:23] <xlefay> (besides me and millions of others... oh details..)
[09:38:05] <xlefay> Ok, I lied, there is something to be desired, valid HTML, but who cares
[09:38:03] <crutchy> echo 'click here for pr0n' > index.html ...leaves a lot to be desired :-P
[09:37:34] <xlefay> They can't ever disappoint, etc.. It's just there saying for the visitor to go away, no stupid password restrictions or user interactions, etc.. ;)
[09:37:00] * xlefay notes those are the best websites, they never leave anything to be desired
[09:36:48] <xlefay> MrBluze, sure I can. echo 'Go away' > index.html
[09:36:27] <MrBluze> but for some reason no one can write normal websites
[09:36:24] <xlefay> crutchy, surely.. you just install an emulator and voila!
[09:36:17] <MrBluze> there shouldn't be any
[09:36:00] <xlefay> There shouldn't be any.. isn't it great if an attacker just knows which characters he can exclude from cracking? ;-)
[09:35:54] <crutchy> can i get mariokart for linux?
[09:35:37] <MrBluze> depends on character restrictions
[09:35:36] <chromas> crutchy: can you install Linux on it? :-D
[09:35:30] <MrBluze> yeah 250 is fine
[09:35:19] <xlefay> essentially, MrBluze, password length should be sensible, e.g. max 250 characters should generally be /more/ than sufficient.
[09:35:12] <crutchy> i've got a wii that never gets used
[09:35:10] <MrBluze> xlefay: the disadvantage is for the user
[09:34:30] <Popeidol> crutchy: you will love the new Xbox one
[09:34:14] <crutchy> i like zero length passwords best. very easy to remember :-D
[09:34:14] <xlefay> MrBluze, well.. there are some disadvantages when someone throws in a book, guess hashing that would kinda go slow, especially with bcrypt and the likes
[09:33:46] <xlefay> Probably, I'm guessing "Scotiabank" is a bank.. I tend to use longer passwords for banking shit and such (well.. when that's allowed)
[09:33:39] <MrBluze> password should be any length .. if u hash it who cares how long it was
[09:33:38] <mattie_p> what's wrong with my computer, I was looking at slash today as well
[09:33:27] <mattie_p> maybe that's what'
[09:33:12] <xlefay> chromas, a piece of you will die when you do that
[09:33:07] <chromas> well last I saw it has a 20-char password limit
[09:33:02] <MrBluze> lol xlefay .. when they say "password too long" it means "sorry the three letter agency can't crack a password longer than XX characters in 5 seconds"
[09:32:59] <chromas> oops logged out
[09:32:45] <crutchy> chromas: you'll go blind
[09:32:27] * chromas looks at slashcode
[09:32:14] <xlefay> What's frustrating is when you can't use a password because "it's too long, you're only allowed to use XX characters" like.. fu
[09:32:06] <crutchy> i always have trouble selecting uppercase numbers on my telly
[09:31:58] <mattie_p> just noticed I got disconnected, seem to be having internet problems today
[09:31:41] <Popeidol> in fact, lowercase is often missing completely
[09:31:39] <crutchy> g'day mattie_p
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[09:31:02] <chromas> Case-sensitive passwords don't exist on tv
[09:30:59] <deadbeef> karma - todot: 1
[09:30:59] <crutchy> todot++
[09:30:45] <deadbeef> todo item 8 added
[09:30:45] <crutchy> !todo goto todot item 7
[09:30:39] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Scotiabank: Case Sensitive Passwords Frustrate Users - http://sylnt.us - amateur-dramatics-security-theater
[09:30:20] <chromas> Sweet; I'm all done!
[09:30:13] <deadbeef> nothing todo for chromas ;]
[09:30:13] <chromas> !todo
[09:30:13] <xlefay> crutchy, that way, you'll never finish it!
[09:29:59] <deadbeef> todo item 7 added
[09:29:59] <crutchy> !todo complete todo list items
[09:29:45] * xlefay just uses his BNC's *notes function. :P
[09:29:34] <xlefay> chromas, already done
[09:29:22] <MrBluze> there :)
[09:29:20] <chromas> well put that on your todo
[09:29:17] <deadbeef> todo item 1 added
[09:29:17] <MrBluze> !todo nothing
[09:29:01] <xlefay> We should have a !scrap one instead of "done" for those which you didn't do.. naturally, it doesn't really matter _but_ .. semantics
[09:28:55] <deadbeef> 1 item deleted
[09:28:52] <crutchy> todo item 5 in progress :-P
[09:28:51] <MrBluze> !done 1
[09:28:51] <deadbeef> 1 item deleted
[09:28:49] <MrBluze> !done 2
[09:28:47] <deadbeef> 1 item deleted
[09:28:47] <MrBluze> !done 3
[09:28:43] <deadbeef> 1 item deleted
[09:28:43] <MrBluze> !done 4
[09:28:30] <deadbeef> todo for mrbluze: 1) Go through bugtracker and update missing bugs 2) Tidy up Wiki 3) Write proposal for dupe detection and article indexing 4) Write proposal for web-based voting separate from slashcode
[09:28:30] <MrBluze> !todo
[09:28:13] <xlefay> LOL @ 5
[09:28:10] <deadbeef> 1 item deleted
[09:28:10] <crutchy> !done 7
[09:28:04] <deadbeef> 1 item deleted
[09:28:04] <crutchy> !done 8
[09:27:54] <deadbeef> todo for crutchy: 1) rewrite slashcode in assembly 2) dig up monolith on the moon 3) fuck beta 4) prepare draft RFC8008135 5) make a bash bot to have bot fights with sedbot 6) bacon+noodles 7) 1 8) 1
[09:27:54] <crutchy> !todo
[09:27:48] <chromas> When doing a web search, after excluding radio stations (because FM) and everything else I just get stuff about downloading hentai for some reason
[09:27:46] <xlefay> yo crutchy ;)
[09:27:41] <NCommander> holy blast from the past O_O;
[09:27:40] <crutchy> or not
[09:27:33] <deadbeef> todo item 8 added
[09:27:33] <crutchy> !todo 1
[09:26:47] <MrBluze> chromas: filemaker has become so terribly easy to work with since i last used it (nearly 20 years ago)
[09:26:43] <chromas> hi crutchy
[09:26:37] <Konomi> hey ;p
[09:26:28] <crutchy> hey mrbluze,chromas,ncommander,xlefay,konomi
[09:25:41] <MrBluze> hi crutchy
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[09:20:03] <chromas> Pepperidge Farm remembers
[09:19:30] <MrBluze> i remember hercules graphics lol
[09:19:11] <MrBluze> dbase 3 still used in one place i worked
[09:19:07] * xar you know who remembers Harvard Graphics? xar remembers.
[09:18:46] <MrBluze> or dbase 3
[09:18:41] <MrBluze> could be .. dos was stuff like lotus 123, or symphony
[09:18:21] <chromas> Maybe it was a knockoff or something
[09:18:21] <MrBluze> but it's OSX / windows now
[09:18:07] <MrBluze> FM used to be macintosh
[09:17:57] <chromas> Don't remember much about it but it was a DOS program
[09:17:51] <MrBluze> im using filemaker server .. uses php / apache for its web server end
[09:17:47] <chromas> Yeah; stored their library of stuff to air and used it to build their schedules
[09:17:20] <MrBluze> as a database?
[09:17:06] <chromas> A local tv station used to use something called FM Lite but I can't find anything about it
[09:16:23] <MrBluze> yes
[09:16:20] <MrBluze> eys
[09:16:03] <chromas> Filemaker?
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[09:14:58] <chromas> MrBluze: what's fm?
[09:10:42] * MrBluze carefully wraps the file format in a vm to be safe
[09:10:36] <NCommander> this probably won't be as tedious if I wasn't coding in raw assembly
[09:10:09] * MrBluze bends said file format over
[09:10:08] * Konomi sends NCommander docx's
[09:09:55] <NCommander> Ugh
[09:09:54] <NCommander> Fuck this file format
[09:09:52] <MrBluze> actually people are pretty damn cleverly made
[09:09:50] <NCommander> Seriously
[09:09:48] * NCommander bangs head repeatively
[09:07:31] <xlefay> I was going to say something like haskell first.. but them people would be too correct!
[09:07:08] <xlefay> Konomi, it has for many years but it was a pain in PHP 4, PHP 5 has some decentness about it.. but there are catches like everywhere ;-)
[09:07:05] <MrBluze> can't be c or c++ cause that's supernatural
[09:06:45] <MrBluze> yeah
[09:06:35] * Konomi hides
[09:06:30] <Konomi> java cause it's slow?
[09:06:20] <MrBluze> java cause it gives u the shits
[09:06:17] <Konomi> I didn't even know php had objects ;p
[09:06:09] <xlefay> Like script errors? haha
[09:06:03] <exec> script error
[09:06:02] <MrBluze> php because u get unexpected behiavours
[09:05:53] <xlefay> I think Python, because: import soul
[09:05:42] <Konomi> cause I can never get them anyway
[09:05:42] <exec> alias requires additional argument
[09:05:42] <MrBluze> php
[09:05:39] <Konomi> brainfuk
[09:05:21] <MrBluze> people.. hmm
[09:04:45] <xlefay> MrBluze, here's a question, if people were written in an OOP-language, which one would you say that would be?
[09:04:40] <MrBluze> i been slowly getting this database built in fm
[09:03:37] <xlefay> beh.. don't feel like it but I should, bbl ;)
[09:03:28] <xlefay> xlefay.goDoSomeWork(); ... ;)
[09:01:35] <MrBluze> nice
[09:01:17] <xlefay> sucks :(
[09:01:08] <xlefay> hmm, think the mopping & vacuuming made that clear hmm
[09:00:54] <Konomi> xD
[09:00:54] <Konomi> not eeally
[09:00:49] <Konomi> did however mop and vacuume the whole house today
[09:00:46] <xlefay> sounds oldish, nothing fun to do?
[09:00:31] <Konomi> same old same old ;_;
[09:00:23] <xlefay> Konomi, touché; how are ya?
[08:58:55] <MrBluze> not or - and
[08:58:52] <Konomi> ;p
[08:58:49] <Konomi> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com
[08:58:39] * xlefay is in favor of both.
[08:58:33] <MrBluze> yes
[08:58:26] <xlefay> Should error messages be informative or insulting?
[08:58:05] <MrBluze> konomi.welcome();
[08:57:52] <Konomi> hey
[08:57:51] <xlefay> ^
[08:57:46] <MrBluze> hi konomi
[08:57:41] <MrBluze> lol even better
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[08:57:30] <SedBot> <xlefay> <MrBluze> if( secretary.checkgender() == MALE ) { fire(1); }
[08:57:30] <xlefay> MrBluze, s/exit/fire/
[08:56:58] <MrBluze> if( secretary.checkgender() == MALE ) { exit(1); }
[08:56:40] <xlefay> You should probably still pass in an argument regarding the type and such... :)
[08:56:22] <MrBluze> secretary.warmup();
[08:56:17] <MrBluze> secretary.initialize();
[08:56:02] <MrBluze> collect( profit );
[08:55:38] <xlefay> insert_with_benefits(new Secretary);
[08:55:25] <xlefay> hmm
[08:55:13] <MrBluze> insert( secretary );
[08:55:05] <MrBluze> remove( boss );
[08:53:10] <xlefay> just to be on the safe side, remove bosswalkpast() and just "look_busy()" always ;)
[08:52:43] <xlefay> or
[08:51:42] <MrBluze> or something
[08:51:23] <MrBluze> if( procrastinate() && (bosswalkpast() == _IMMINENT ) { look_busy(); }
[08:50:26] <xlefay> Downside is, you may just get fired then..
[08:49:29] <MrBluze> if( $DAY_JOB == binarytest() ) { delay( 24*60*60*1000 ); }
[08:47:58] <xlefay> NCommander, If only, unset $DAY_JOB till tomorrow, no? ;)
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[07:56:06] <NCommander> Absolutely f***ed up binary format
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[07:51:24] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Develop 'WiFi for Power' - http://sylnt.us - new-incentives-for-wifi-theft
[07:49:16] <xlefay> Oh, yeah, that makes sense
[07:49:01] <NCommander> xlefay, $DAY_JOB
[07:48:51] <xlefay> That sounds excessive, what's up?
[07:48:50] <NCommander> Device tree is fucking crap binary format
[07:48:41] * NCommander swears a fuck ton
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[07:36:51] <xlefay> You'll want to run: fish_update_completions # so you'll get awesomeness
[07:36:15] <xlefay> I just use oh-my-fish because it gives some nice things; so I don't have to bother installing stuff manually ;-)
[07:35:56] <xlefay> That's in ~/.config/fish/config.fish
[07:35:20] <chromas> ah
[07:35:16] * xlefay notes - yes I'm aware, it doesn't belong in .config.. but w/e ;)
[07:35:03] <xlefay> end
[07:35:03] <xlefay> ~/.config/powerline-shell/powerline-shell.py $status --shell bare ^/dev/null
[07:35:03] <xlefay> function fish_prompt
[07:34:56] <xlefay> essentially, what you need is:
[07:34:44] <xlefay> chromas, it's not required though
[07:34:16] <chromas> Thanks
[07:34:15] <chromas> That's what I forgot
[07:34:04] <xlefay> https://github.com
[07:33:38] <xlefay> Did you also get oh-my-fish?
[07:33:28] <chromas> I set fish as default
[07:33:05] <xlefay> Which shell are you fiddling with now?
[07:32:53] * chromas bitches and whines
[07:32:48] <chromas> Not getting the powerline enhancements either
[07:32:10] <chromas> Yeah I should start it as a service
[07:31:48] <xlefay> auch
[07:31:37] <chromas> rebooted my desktop for a billion updates and my quassel core died :(
[07:31:32] <xlefay> (but you won't be able to 'fg' back - that's why people use screen/tmux a lot for keeping things running and attached)
[07:31:22] <MrBluze> hmm yes that also
[07:30:55] <MrBluze> unless u start a service i think
[07:30:52] <xlefay> it depends, you can disown in bash for instance (probably also in zsh)
[07:30:38] <MrBluze> it does chromas
[07:30:20] <xlefay> in which shell?
[07:29:31] <chromas> Well damn. I guess logging out of an ssh session kills background tasks too?
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[07:18:19] <xlefay> I like this gitignore.io :D
[07:14:21] <xlefay> true
[07:12:00] <MrBluze> for this question though depends what the data is already stored as
[07:11:51] <MrBluze> i guess
[07:10:54] <xlefay> That's the rule I follow anyway
[07:10:47] <xlefay> MrBluze, in fairness, it's best to recommend the best solution for a problem, if that's proprietary, you mention that too and possibly open/free alternatives if you know them
[07:09:52] <MrBluze> it's basically always better to recommend free stuff ^
[07:09:16] <xlefay> http://www.gitignore.io woa nice ;)
[07:08:58] <xlefay> http://www.gitignore.io that's somewhat neat
[07:08:24] <xlefay> MrBluze, auch
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[07:06:00] <MrBluze> its nice but it's $5k minimum for the server
[07:05:38] <xlefay> MrBluze, nice
[07:05:24] * xlefay ducks for recommending an ORM (but I did say.. quick 'n dirty)
[07:05:14] <MrBluze> it's like microwave meals
[07:05:13] <xlefay> Just use the ORM for a quick & dirty, fast solution x'D
[07:05:06] <MrBluze> as it happens i am using filemaker and uhm.. this kind of stuff would probably take about 3 or 4 mouse clicks lol
[07:04:57] <xlefay> I'd rather just query directly imo, throw up phalcon, create a DB model, etc..
[07:04:47] <MrBluze> yeah true
[07:04:36] <xlefay> MrBluze, sure, but whatever you do, it's going to take an hour or two or more, to create the entire thing
[07:04:13] <MrBluze> and then .. whatever
[07:04:02] <xlefay> Well, of course, there's microsoft products who can probably do it
[07:03:58] <MrBluze> xlefay: u can output stuff as csv ?
[07:03:49] <xlefay> xar, there are so many different ways to do what you want.. but I can't think of any easy as in, it'll take a few minutes to set up/minimal effort hmm
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[07:02:42] <MrBluze> hmm
[07:02:32] <xlefay> chromas, yeah just create the folder
[07:02:21] <xar> I'm looking for nice way to basically query a database and throw into a nice boilerplate / bootstrap style presentation, with minimal effort; any recommendations?
[07:02:17] <chromas> I don't have a .fonts.conf.d or ~/.config/fontconfig/conf.d/. Do I just make either one and stick the file in?
[07:01:28] <xlefay> either way, you probably want 'oh-my-zsh' for ZSH and 'oh-my-fish' for FiSH ;-)
[07:00:33] <xlefay> not bad here either, you?
[07:00:17] <xlefay> chromas, biggest difference with fish & other shells (beyond the obvious difference in style, auto completion and such) is that the regular bash scripting doesn't work (unless ya know, you execute a regular file #!/bin/bash or first go into bash), e.g. for i in `ls`; or for i in $(ls); will become: for i in (ls) - the syntax is slightly different for fish
[07:00:13] * arti is relaxing after a day of code wrangling
[06:59:15] <MrBluze> uhm.. not bad
[06:59:05] <xar> how's everyone doing
[06:58:34] <arti> good ol fisher stevens
[06:58:28] <xlefay> x_-
[06:58:23] <chromas> ^ Johnny Five
[06:58:22] <MrBluze> -_x
[06:58:09] <xlefay> o_O
[06:57:57] <xar> O_o
[06:57:21] <xlefay> zsh pretty much feels like bash on steroids, where fish(.. the shell..) feels like an entirely thing at all
[06:56:07] <xlefay> zsh is awesome and so is fish, it's pretty much personal preference. A great thing with zsh is path substitution, e.g. /some/extremely/lengthy/path/ # cd extremely still-extremely
[06:55:35] <NCommander> Its not bad
[06:55:28] <MrBluze> well that sounds ok
[06:55:15] <MrBluze> oh
[06:55:07] <NCommander> MrBluze, not bad, though I had to go find a 24/7 cafe since the common area in the hostel closed
[06:54:28] <chromas> Just installed fish and zsh and trying them out. Now powerline
[06:53:51] <xlefay> chromas, what are ya using now? powerlined bash?
[06:52:33] * chromas feels like a turdbuglar being stuck in the past with basic Bash
[06:51:30] <MrBluze> with flashing window borders
[06:51:21] <MrBluze> grey on grey at dusk and dawn
[06:51:05] <chromas> <blink> at dusk
[06:51:00] <arti> sounds like you just like to switch bottom and top ;)
[06:50:47] <MrBluze> dark on white in the daytime
[06:50:43] <MrBluze> light on dark at night
[06:48:50] <arti> fek
[06:48:49] <arti> er... light on dark
[06:48:47] <chromas> Insufficient triangle height
[06:48:42] * arti is a fan of the dark on white
[06:48:36] <chromas> 01,14test 14,10▶01,10 like 10,05▶01,05 this 05▶ _
[06:48:07] <MrBluze> it's pretty
[06:46:33] <xlefay> chromas, it's powerline, so yeah, https://github.com
[06:44:41] * arti :D
[06:43:43] <chromas> Or is it just colors + triangle characters?
[06:43:06] <chromas> xlefay: What settings/term gives you that style of prompt?
[06:38:46] <MrBluze> from the click-undo-50-years-later department
[06:38:27] <MrBluze> putin is letting tartars and other deportees to return to crimea
[06:37:44] <MrBluze> tumtiddlytum
[06:30:56] <xlefay> oh, wrong screen
[06:29:31] <xlefay> It's funny, I never recall Windowsw ever giving me a heads up my mouse or keyboard is almost empty
[06:28:09] <MrBluze> :)
[06:28:06] <MrBluze> .. i assume good
[06:18:20] <MrBluze> NCommander: how are you?
[06:18:11] <MrBluze> true, its very stable
[06:16:39] <xlefay> I don't think bash really gets a lot of new features or so, then again, it isn't intended that way
[06:16:18] <MrBluze> but i dont do anything exciting on it
[06:16:14] <MrBluze> seems to have been the same for me for hte past 10 years
[06:14:33] <xlefay> zsh's awesome too
[06:14:27] <xlefay> Generally it only gets patched I think, I don't keep track a lot
[06:13:52] <xlefay> think bash was updated recently
[06:12:00] <MrBluze> interesting isnt it that things like bash dont get improved on over a long time
[06:11:55] <xlefay> MrBluze, yeah that bit kinda sucks
[06:11:30] <xlefay> err, tab completion*
[06:11:19] <xlefay> http://www.imgdumper.nl small example of awesome auto complete
[06:10:34] <MrBluze> standard install on most distro's
[06:10:28] <xlefay> universal as in?
[06:10:21] <MrBluze> but it's not universal :(
[06:10:18] <MrBluze> it's good
[06:09:02] <MrBluze> and other command prompt addons
[06:08:49] <MrBluze> reminds me of double dos
[06:08:42] <MrBluze> nice
[06:08:38] <xlefay> syntax highlighting, auto suggestions & tab completions (they're different then say, bash completions) and such are my favorite functions ;-)
[06:07:31] <xlefay> MrBluze, http://fishshell.com take a look ;)
[06:06:45] <xlefay> It saves an insane amount of time
[06:06:41] * MrBluze laughs
[06:06:38] <MrBluze> i misread
[06:06:36] <MrBluze> oh yeah
[06:06:29] <xlefay> awesome*
[06:06:25] <xlefay> fish is a shell like bash and such, except, moar awesoe
[06:06:01] <xlefay> time for aliases
[06:05:58] <MrBluze> fish smell?
[06:04:53] <xlefay> I like the 'fish' shell.. but I do miss my !!:s/diff/add/
[06:04:29] <MrBluze> damn
[06:03:21] <xlefay> Oh well, better luck next time :p
[06:03:00] <xlefay> MrBluze, well apparently, she isn't even real!
[06:02:43] <MrBluze> shes probably ugly, u have been warned
[06:01:58] * xlefay patiently awaits for the arrival of superwoman...
[06:01:33] <MrBluze> no less than anywhere else
[06:01:20] <xlefay> I'm afraid so, after all, everything on IRC is fact, no? :o
[06:00:32] <MrBluze> is he taking over the world now?
[06:00:06] <xlefay> uh uh *sees SpallsHurgenson's quit message*
[05:58:40] <MrBluze> lol xlefay
[05:58:35] <MrBluze> it came when i ran out of time to play games
[05:58:33] <xlefay> MrBluze, I was working up to that! :P
[05:58:26] <MrBluze> i never took up minecraft
[05:57:54] <xlefay> do { wait&complain(); } while(cold && lazy);
[05:57:54] * NCommander is mulling building the server spawnpoint in The End
[05:57:28] <MrBluze> .. else { complain(); }
[05:56:57] <xlefay> do { starjump(); } while( cold && !lazy );
[05:56:36] <MrBluze> while( cold ) do { starjump(); }
[05:56:28] <xlefay> while(!cold) { sleep() } # here, that's better
[05:56:05] <xlefay> although, that should probably be a variable x'D
[05:55:41] <xlefay> while (cold()) { sleep = false; } :'(
[05:55:16] <xlefay> MrBluze, ha
[05:55:15] <MrBluze> NCommander
[05:55:14] * NCommander is mulling a plot for the minecraft server
[05:55:04] <NCommander> MrBluze, :-/
[05:54:55] <MrBluze> while( !sleep() ) { cry(); }
[05:54:53] <xlefay> nah waiting for the heater to kick in, it's normally quite fast :/
[05:54:27] <xlefay> ha
[05:54:18] <xlefay> That's generally how a baby sleeps, sleep(); if (inconvenientTime()) cry(); and so on
[05:54:17] <MrBluze> she might get fond memories
[05:54:12] <MrBluze> lol
[05:53:46] <xlefay> me*
[05:53:40] <xlefay> hmm, I don't think my mom would enjoy my crying my ass of after about 30 minutes
[05:53:15] <MrBluze> and then u will sleep like a baby
[05:53:10] * xlefay is waiting for the heater to kick in
[05:53:10] <MrBluze> do some high intensity exercise for 10 min
[05:52:59] <MrBluze> lol
[05:52:04] <xlefay> man it's cold
[05:51:37] <xlefay> Let me know when there's a sleepmaker in there somewhere :P
[05:51:25] <MrBluze> nearly too easy .. scary
[05:51:18] <MrBluze> i been working on filemaker the past hour or so
[05:51:05] <xlefay> I can't sleep lol
[05:50:54] <MrBluze> hey why arent u asleep
[05:50:53] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - White House Ordered to Disclose Drone Memo - http://sylnt.us - rationale-[redacted]
[05:50:40] <MrBluze> okay
[05:50:36] <MrBluze> oh
[05:42:50] <xlefay> (your earlier statement might have given the impression that it'd convert)
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[05:42:27] <xlefay> MrBluze, Phalcon doesn't convert PHP into C; Phalcon itself is C module for PHP
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[05:34:12] <MrBluze> hmm
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[05:22:33] <SpallsHurgenson> yes, it is time
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[05:18:56] <MrBluze> speaking of speaking
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[05:14:05] <BadCoderFinger> Speaking of beer...
[05:12:55] <BadCoderFinger> Those would be nice. Beer gets rid of the unpleasant aftertaste of meeting.
[05:12:48] <MrBluze> there's a bar in those
[05:12:31] <MrBluze> court meetings?
[05:11:42] <Cyprus> the best meetings are ones i can be on a call at a bar
[05:11:27] <MrBluze> k
[05:10:56] <BadCoderFinger> Sorry, embedded here.
[05:09:53] <MrBluze> ?
[05:09:52] <MrBluze> any db developers here
[05:08:05] <MrBluze> tell her we said hi
[05:07:54] <SpallsHurgenson> (erm, brb, the master is calling :)
[05:07:51] <MrBluze> yeah indeed
[05:07:41] <SpallsHurgenson> that's why I only support tyrannies with myself in complete control :)
[05:07:38] <MrBluze> difference with conference calls is if you are paid to be on them, you kind of are compelled
[05:07:37] <BadCoderFinger> Some of us are conscripted. The boss says, "Thou shalt be in this idiot meeting."
[05:06:46] <MrBluze> you condemn yourself to more of it
[05:06:40] <MrBluze> if u humour the system and participate
[05:06:32] <MrBluze> its like this name vote
[05:06:28] <MrBluze> well
[05:06:17] <SpallsHurgenson> sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy if everyone treats it that way :)
[05:05:37] <MrBluze> how else will they realise they are wasting their time
[05:05:13] <MrBluze> but the idiots who organize them deserve it
[05:05:08] * MrBluze nods
[05:05:01] <SpallsHurgenson> MrBluze: which exactly is the problem with conference calls. :)
[05:04:23] <SpallsHurgenson> that's because nobody can slap you like you deserve :)
[05:04:23] <MrBluze> and then go make myself some food and read a book
[05:04:12] <MrBluze> i set the thing to mute, hands free
[05:04:07] <MrBluze> i like phone meetings
[05:02:53] <SpallsHurgenson> you can't slap the useless people who have fallen asleep (erm, are "concentrating with their fingers to their nose" :)
[05:02:37] <michealpwalls> It depends on the org. I think hehe
[05:02:15] <SpallsHurgenson> conference calls/video-meetings rarely work anyway
[05:02:13] <MrBluze> each person sits at a differently located pub
[05:02:02] <Cyprus> people dont like being directly laughed at across the table
[05:01:58] <MrBluze> a multi-location stand up meeting on trains
[05:01:42] <michealpwalls> LOL
[05:01:34] <MrBluze> in separate directions
[05:01:32] <Cyprus> its hard to have a in person meeting go bad enough that people start laughing hysterically
[05:01:28] <MrBluze> what about a walk outside and smell some clean air meeting
[05:01:10] <michealpwalls> Lets all have a stand up meeting right now
[05:01:06] * SpallsHurgenson shrieks in horror and concedes the point to Cyprus
[05:01:04] <Cyprus> in person meetings avoid it too
[05:00:55] <michealpwalls> SpallsHurgenson: Stand up meetings avoid that :P
[05:00:54] <MrBluze> yeah
[05:00:50] <SpallsHurgenson> oh god, MBAs!
[05:00:41] <Cyprus> they "drive" the "synergy"
[05:00:40] <SpallsHurgenson> any meeting that lasts over an hour is wasted time
[05:00:35] <MrBluze> and the other ones take the credit
[05:00:31] <MrBluze> in other words that person does all the work for nothing
[05:00:23] <MrBluze> in meetings now they talk about "champions" of the cause of whatever it is they are meeting about
[05:00:15] <michealpwalls> haha
[05:00:12] <Cyprus> we were still going over roll call 20 minutes in
[05:00:04] <SpallsHurgenson> "Mr Fluffy, if you could please stop chasing the string so we can get back on topic..."
[05:00:01] <Cyprus> about how bad it was
[04:59:53] <Cyprus> i will say i was muted on a call for 1.5 hours today and laughing most of the time with a cube mate who was also on the call
[04:59:38] * SpallsHurgenson imagines a conference call with cats...
[04:59:36] <BadCoderFinger> Meetings are how people that do nothing suck the productivity out of those who do things.
[04:59:18] <michealpwalls> Meetings with animals?
[04:59:06] <MrBluze> well without human beings we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place
[04:58:34] <SpallsHurgenson> it depends on the meeting, the people, and the company
[04:58:24] <MrBluze> they're worse
[04:58:22] <Cyprus> it's barely led conference calls like today that are terrible
[04:58:01] <Cyprus> meetings aren't that bad
[04:57:38] <BadCoderFinger> Coma: noun, def. Another word for "Meeting"
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[04:56:24] <Cyprus> that's not thinking, that's coma
[04:56:19] <SpallsHurgenson> learn to twitch :)
[04:56:07] <Cyprus> it becomes obvious when you don't move for 10 minutes though
[04:55:45] <SpallsHurgenson> erm, or so I've been told :)
[04:55:20] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, putting your fingers to either side of the bridge of your nose and looking down slightly works very well; it makes you look like you are thinking, and they can't see that your eyes are closed :)
[04:54:40] <BadCoderFinger> I want some of those glasses with eyes.
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[04:52:43] <SpallsHurgenson> draw open eyeballs on your eyelids :)
[04:52:40] * Cyprus dislikes his boss
[04:52:32] <BadCoderFinger> Me too.
[04:52:30] <Cyprus> or look at my phone
[04:52:26] <Cyprus> i get yelled at when i nod off
[04:52:15] * SpallsHurgenson pronounces it "nap time" :)
[04:52:08] <SpallsHurgenson> heh, you have an odd prononciation for that word
[04:51:48] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah. We call those times "Meetings."
[04:51:27] <SpallsHurgenson> BadCodeFinger: Don't be silly. Even you must realize the incompetent can suck even the most competent down to their own level.
[04:50:25] <SpallsHurgenson> (there are some who believe this may already have happened)
[04:50:16] <SpallsHurgenson> it would suck in the competent, who would never escape past its event horizon
[04:50:09] <BadCoderFinger> Wouldn't that just suck up all the other incompetence? I'm ok with that.
[04:49:04] <SpallsHurgenson> no, no, no... you don't want it all in one place like that. Combined, it could create an incompetence singularity!
[04:48:53] <Cyprus> yeah they would, cuba is beautiful
[04:48:24] <BadCoderFinger> Maybe we need a big boat for all the incompetence... Nobody would suspect a boat going _TO_ Cuba!
[04:47:39] <SpallsHurgenson> BadCodeFinger: there are only so many CEOs in this world
[04:46:47] <Cyprus> is that like the conservation of ninjitsu?
[04:46:46] <BadCoderFinger> Can't it go elsewhere? I'd be happy with that.
[04:46:09] <SpallsHurgenson> look, the incompetence has to go SOMEWHERE
[04:45:16] <BadCoderFinger> I'd prefer to have some competent people running things I depend on. Apparently I'm not boss material because of this.
[04:44:05] * SpallsHurgenson nods to himself as if this makes perfect sense
[04:42:55] <SpallsHurgenson> better to have the outsourced employees confused than your own :)
[04:42:44] <SpallsHurgenson> there is only so much confusion to go around
[04:42:36] <SpallsHurgenson> outsourced people are required due to the conservation of confusion principle
[04:42:18] <BadCoderFinger> And he runs our management network. Sigh.
[04:42:03] <BadCoderFinger> And being told by several other people.
[04:41:45] <BadCoderFinger> One today had both shoes untied. They remained untied all morning, despite several trips to other areas.
[04:41:00] <BadCoderFinger> True.
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[04:39:57] <chromas> What doesn't?
[04:39:44] <BadCoderFinger> I do at work. Confuses the outsourced people.
[04:39:12] <Cyprus> i blame him for me ever reading the book in the first place
[04:38:50] <Cyprus> also had a manager that did
[04:38:37] <Cyprus> i do =P
[04:38:04] <SpallsHurgenson> anyone else still use the term "grok" in real life, or just me?
[04:38:01] <Cyprus> athough i doubt she would, i'd be more worried about estate issues later on
[04:36:07] <BadCoderFinger> groksoy?
[04:35:58] <chromas> SoylentGrok
[04:35:46] <BadCoderFinger> Definitely not worth it.
[04:34:50] <Cyprus> not worth the fight
[04:34:45] <Cyprus> i see the argument though
[04:34:06] <Cyprus> that's pretty specious
[04:34:03] <BadCoderFinger> This is very true. But here in America, we're ill-informed, unhappy, and litigious.
[04:34:02] <SpallsHurgenson> On a computer!
[04:33:52] <chromas> Yeah but this is grok + noun...on the Internet!
[04:33:39] <Cyprus> its a term from a Hielen book
[04:33:23] <Cyprus> grok shouldn't be trademarkable
[04:31:54] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Patent Troll Case Ends up in Tatters - http://sylnt.us - system-works-eventually
[04:30:37] <BadCoderFinger> Maybe people think Pamela Jones would sue them over "groknews" -- although, can you blame them? Who would annoy someone with a large legal knowledge on purpose?
[04:28:49] <Cyprus> i got sad when i saw grepnews and didn't see groknews =/
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[04:26:41] <BadCoderFinger> Worked for git over SVN, right? Right?
[04:26:17] <MrBluze> brb
[04:26:13] <BadCoderFinger> First, we convert Google employees, then the world!
[04:25:06] <MrBluze> lol
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[04:24:01] <SpallsHurgenson> (either that, or we have a secret fan there :)
[04:23:45] <SpallsHurgenson> I bet there's somebody at Google HQ going ".Soy? WTF?!?!?"
[04:23:31] <SpallsHurgenson> that list of domains really sounds like google tried for everything and those are the only new TLD's they were awarded
[04:22:47] <BadCoderFinger> It could be... but now we have to wait until next year to test the hypothesis.
[04:21:52] <SpallsHurgenson> BadCodeFinger: Wait... isn't that what the site is about?
[04:21:31] <BadCoderFinger> Spalls: That sort of makes it sound like we give up news for lent...
[04:21:13] <MrBluze> and go.. oh.. wtf
[04:21:02] <SpallsHurgenson> news.lent.soy :)
[04:21:01] <MrBluze> and everyone will go to beans.com
[04:20:56] <MrBluze> lol
[04:20:44] <BadCoderFinger> Woohoo! Quick! Register beans.soy before anyone else!
[04:19:38] <SpallsHurgenson> oh good, more top level domains to ignore :)
[04:19:24] <BadCoderFinger> This is true, heh.
[04:19:02] <MrBluze> especially if it's home brew code
[04:18:51] <MrBluze> a lot of stuff will run in wine
[04:18:05] <BadCoderFinger> There are a lot of CNC machines that the software only runs on XP, and they are a bit out of luck.
[04:17:53] <MrBluze> u can have any kind of interface to that
[04:17:52] <Landon> :)
[04:17:51] <Landon> .SOY
[04:17:49] <Landon> http://www.google.com
[04:17:47] <Landon> have you guys seen this
[04:17:45] <Landon> hah!
[04:17:27] <MrBluze> some kind of simple debian type situation
[04:17:20] <BadCoderFinger> Ask all the people still running XP.
[04:17:01] <MrBluze> u can end up with total breakage after a few years
[04:16:43] <MrBluze> well yeah windows is a bad choice
[04:16:06] <BadCoderFinger> Or at least platform updates, heh.
[04:14:17] <MrBluze> .. something with enough momentum that you can rely on version updates in the future
[04:13:45] <MrBluze> yeah which scripting language is really a matter of taste
[04:13:35] <MrBluze> hmm
[04:13:08] <BadCoderFinger> The interface to other languages is more or less built in.
[04:12:58] <paulej72> right now the code is ancient c that runs on windows and the instrument net is tied to a single machine that is the only place to do the login
[04:12:41] <BadCoderFinger> I rather like parrot's approach for this.
[04:12:14] <BadCoderFinger> It would make sense to make the bits that need to be fast in C, and have a decent interface to a higher level scripting language (this is the hard part). Then the workflow part can be written in anything.
[04:11:15] <MrBluze> just like with anything
[04:11:11] <MrBluze> there's some reasonably good frameworks for web interfaces and so on
[04:10:35] <MrBluze> yeah that'd work
[04:09:53] <paulej72> would be nice if it uses a web interface for log in an out so we could set an ipad next to each device to do the login
[04:09:42] <MrBluze> my thought is that if a scripting language is used, u can separate out parts and maintain the code base without worrying about breakages if a small part fails
[04:07:56] <paulej72> we have a system that allows users to log into scientific equipment. contols relay boxes next to the equipment that can kill power or the monitor. uses a 485 network to send commands. does not need to be fast just reliable
[04:07:16] <MrBluze> but that's a bit convoluted for my liking
[04:06:58] <MrBluze> xlefay pointed out phalcon which basically makes php into c .. and is very fast
[04:05:05] <MrBluze> so if i learn python i get that, plus i can still write websites .. probably better than i did in php
[04:04:36] <BadCoderFinger> That's true enough, but I never write those things, heh!
[04:04:34] <MrBluze> and if u need speed, fine, use C
[04:04:30] <MrBluze> yes exactly
[04:04:16] <paulej72> there are some things where speed is never an issue
[04:03:34] <MrBluze> and a bit more fail safe actually
[04:03:21] <MrBluze> faster to develop
[04:03:10] <MrBluze> its nice to have non-compiled code for embedded stuff
[04:02:42] <paulej72> MrBluze: cool
[04:02:30] <MrBluze> and pyUSB
[04:02:30] <BadCoderFinger> That'll teach you to mention visualbasic! Ouch! Now I did it!
[04:02:20] <paulej72> SpallsHurgenson: i have coded in vb
[04:02:02] <MrBluze> pyserial
[04:01:35] <SpallsHurgenson> Ow, thad hurds!
[04:01:19] <MrBluze> i think so paulej72
[04:01:15] <BadCoderFinger> Spalls: Bite your tongue!
[04:00:43] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, there used to be TinyC that could be used in a shebang. Now there's binfmtc.
[04:00:23] <paulej72> MrBluze: can you talk to com ports via python?
[04:00:18] <SpallsHurgenson> what, no love for visualbasic? :)
[03:59:55] <MrBluze> that hasnt really taken off
[03:59:46] <MrBluze> but it'd be nice to have interpreted C actually
[03:59:25] <MrBluze> yes C is good
[03:59:12] <BadCoderFinger> I love C for embedded. If I get 500 lines of perl or ruby, it's time to rewrite it in C.
[03:57:39] <MrBluze> which seems to suggest to me it might be good for working with controllers and so on
[03:57:09] <MrBluze> well the raspberry pi comes with python
[03:56:47] <paulej72> i have no favorite language. i have dabbled in many
[03:55:30] <paulej72> the last fortran i coded was sensitve to wahat column a line started on. first 7 were dedicated to line numbsers
[03:55:13] <MrBluze> they have all been pretty flexible but i hate js
[03:55:00] <MrBluze> i learnt asm, basic, c, c++, pascal and then php / javascript
[03:54:43] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, language fight, language fight!
[03:52:54] <BadCoderFinger> Eh, I never got a taste for fortran, so I can't comment. I actually tried to learn python. Perl's motto is, "There's more than one way to do it." Python's motto seems to be, "There's only one way to do it, and the way you just tried isn't even close."
[03:50:42] <MrBluze> utility is more important to me than much else
[03:50:31] <paulej72> BadCoderFinger: what about fortran :)
[03:49:28] <BadCoderFinger> I can recommend ruby, it's a lot more readable, and an invisible space at the beginning of a line won't kill your entire program. Indentation sensitive syntax went out with COBOL.
[03:48:27] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[03:46:24] * SpallsHurgenson imagines MrBluze practicing his funny walk
[03:45:52] <MrBluze> im dropping php and learning python
[03:45:45] <MrBluze> monty python is funny :)
[03:45:33] <SpallsHurgenson> even the nerds are telling me to get a life :)
[03:45:18] * SpallsHurgenson is resisting the urge to quote python; people think I'm geeky enough as it is
[03:44:48] <BadCoderFinger> What, no love for Monty Python?
[03:40:23] <BadCoderFinger> The only python I like is prefixed by "Monty"
[03:40:08] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, it's too late in the day to be so productive
[03:39:47] <exec> python: 1 | noun | a nonvenomous constricting snake that kills its prey through suffocation; any of various large constricting snakes (as a boa)\n2 | noun | a soothsaying spirit or a person who is possessed by such a spirit
[03:39:43] <paulej72> define python
[03:39:41] <BadCoderFinger> Ewww!
[03:38:39] * MrBluze is learning python
[03:30:56] * SpallsHurgenson is - thanks to a discussion I had earlier with SirFinkus - now watching old CGI videos on YouTube
[03:30:29] <BadCoderFinger> On the plus side, winter is finally retreating.
[03:29:35] <BadCoderFinger> Sorry.
[03:29:32] <BadCoderFinger> "Look at that cloud! It looks like a..."
[03:29:11] * SpallsHurgenson talks about the weather instead
[03:28:51] <SpallsHurgenson> I think we've taken this conversation as far as we can (if not further than we should) for a PG channel :)
[03:27:31] <BadCoderFinger> "Dude! Those are your cheat dice! I was there when you bought them!"
[03:27:24] <SpallsHurgenson> Congratulations, you are a tripod
[03:26:17] <BadCoderFinger> "Look! I rolled an 18!"
[03:25:55] <SpallsHurgenson> GM just needs to tell his players that dick size is in direct proportion to their charisma score :)
[03:24:27] <BadCoderFinger> "I'm a fighter, I don't need to be nice, or even coherent!"
[03:24:01] <BadCoderFinger> Ha!
[03:23:52] <SpallsHurgenson> eh CHR is a dump stat anyway :)
[03:19:34] <michealpwalls> Seems interesting
[03:19:31] <michealpwalls> Think I'm going to watch 'Zero Charisma'
[03:19:20] <SpallsHurgenson> well, except when playing video games online. Then we seem only to focus on homophobia :)
[03:18:45] <SpallsHurgenson> American's are quite good at snarky comebacks
[03:17:55] <michealpwalls> :D
[03:17:44] <michealpwalls> "Of course it's the best response; I am in America!"
[03:17:34] <michealpwalls> It works for both, I think :)
[03:17:25] <michealpwalls> hehe
[03:17:15] <SpallsHurgenson> erm, that's re: the beer, not the response :)
[03:17:10] <BadCoderFinger> Luckily Colorado has no shortage of good microbrews.
[03:16:45] <SpallsHurgenson> well, it is possible; I am in America
[03:16:09] <michealpwalls> That's the best response ever :)
[03:16:04] <BadCoderFinger> Sounds like a lack of decent beer.
[03:16:01] <michealpwalls> LOL
[03:15:30] <SpallsHurgenson> I... I'm not sure. Good, maybe?
[03:14:43] <BadCoderFinger> Hey Spalls! How are things?
[03:14:28] <SpallsHurgenson> Beep.
[03:14:18] <BadCoderFinger> Yo
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[02:27:03] <SpallsHurgenson> everytime I see it, it makes me wonder why we STILL haven't seen a proper live-action Mechwarrior movie yet :) https://www.youtube.com
[02:26:18] <SpallsHurgenson> The MW4 intro was the best of the series, as I remember
[02:25:54] <SirFinkus> I just like the art style
[02:25:52] <SpallsHurgenson> I always preferred MW3 myself; then again, I can't stand the Clans so it was nice to be on the "good" side again
[02:24:34] <SpallsHurgenson> the MW2 intro didn't really floor me technically as much as it did artistically; the sound, the action... well worth rewatching :)
[02:24:26] <SirFinkus> I only got to play it at my friend's house
[02:24:17] <SirFinkus> I didn't have mechwarrior 2, so it was even more awesome
[02:23:11] <SpallsHurgenson> I remember MARVELING at how the raindrop made all those ripples in that puddle... I watched it over and over again. And the glistening of the wizard's eye; truly, I thought, computer graphics could never get any better!
[02:23:03] <SirFinkus> oh god, actually this https://www.youtube.com
[02:22:29] <SpallsHurgenson> I'll see your Age of Empires 2 intro and raise you this Eye of the Beholder 2 intro http://www.youtube.com
[02:22:04] <SirFinkus> this was the coolest thing ever
[02:21:51] <SirFinkus> I remember watching this and being amazed
[02:21:39] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe I was thinking of cyborg dinosaurs then.
[02:21:38] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[02:20:49] <SirFinkus> robot dinosaurs don't eat, they just kill
[02:20:28] <SpallsHurgenson> (other than the fear of getting eaten by robot dinosaurs, of course)
[02:19:34] * SpallsHurgenson is pretty sure more robot dinosaurs are the solution to most of the world's miseries :)
[02:19:29] <deadbeef> karma - spallshurgenson: 7
[02:19:29] <SirFinkus> SpallsHurgenson++
[02:19:22] <SirFinkus> yes, this is a good video
[02:18:37] <SirFinkus> called "In the Realms of the Unreal The Story of the Vivian Girls, in What is Known as the Realms of the Unreal, of the Glandeco-Angelinian War Storm Caused by the Child Slave Rebellion"
[02:18:18] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, robot dinosaurs; I'm happy now :) http://www.youtube.com
[02:17:59] <SirFinkus> He mad a 15k page book of illustrations and stories
[02:16:31] <SirFinkus> a lot of it is little girls traced from sears catalogs with penises being hanged and stuff
[02:15:07] <SirFinkus> I also like weird shit like Henry Darger
[02:13:32] <SpallsHurgenson> back before I - sadly - "matured" and was forced to leave posters for framed pictures :)
[02:13:03] <SpallsHurgenson> reminds me of a poster I used to have :)
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[02:07:57] <SirFinkus> stuff like this http://i.imgur.com idk how to describe it
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[02:04:16] <SirFinkus> I like the sense of the infinite or massive, in a way that's slightly unsettling
[02:03:59] <SirFinkus> I don't think it's that, because even skillfully executed art doesn't really grab me
[02:03:48] <SpallsHurgenson> (heh, found it: Beyond The Mind's Eye http://www.youtube.com )
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[02:03:04] <SpallsHurgenson> it's an artistic thing; you make do with the resources you have available. Today's artists are spoiled by how easy it is to create realistic images. Back then, you need imagination and talent :)
[02:02:00] <SirFinkus> I like the sense of the infinite you get in older cg stuff
[02:01:07] <SpallsHurgenson> reminds me of the "Beyond the Mind's Eye" videos :)
[01:59:03] <SirFinkus> this shit probably took weeks to render out
[01:58:32] <SpallsHurgenson> some people would use a time machine to go back and make history better, like by killing hitler. If I had a time machine, I'd use it to take my desktop PC back 30 years and torment people with how quickly it can render 3D graphics in real-time ;-)
[01:56:39] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, cubes and bouncing spheres!
[01:56:33] <SirFinkus> something mildly unsettling about it, like Beksinski painting
[01:55:53] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[01:55:52] <SirFinkus> seriously though, I've been watching old cgi shit lately
[01:52:48] <SpallsHurgenson> huh, can I use that blueprint with a 3D-printer to make a fully functional brain? 'Cause otherwise you're just teasing me!
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[01:50:59] <SirFinkus> well, I'm not strictly interested in that kind of thing, but it is interesting if that make sense
[01:50:14] <SpallsHurgenson> I think we have very different interests, you and I, SirFinkus :)
[01:50:13] <chromas> Censored :'(
[01:49:54] <SirFinkus> it is something new, and it is interesting
[01:49:35] * SpallsHurgenson is suddenly glad he didn't bother to sign in :)
[01:49:23] <SpallsHurgenson> urg, it wants me to sign in to confirm my age.
[01:49:09] <SirFinkus> a woman dropping eggs from her vagina on a piece of paper
[01:48:42] <SirFinkus> here https://www.youtube.com nsfw
[01:47:14] * SpallsHurgenson looks for something new and interesting on the Internet.
[01:42:45] <MrBluze> bzzt
[01:42:11] <SirFinkus> etc
[01:41:54] <SirFinkus> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[01:41:28] <SpallsHurgenson> er, electrical, not robotic :)
[01:41:14] <SpallsHurgenson> sounds like a bunch of transformers
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[01:36:15] <MrBluze> hrm
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[00:05:21] <Blackmoore> cya
[00:05:17] <Blackmoore> and I'm out too
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