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[00:59:32] <prospectacle> hi everyone
[01:00:55] <arti> hi prospectacle
[01:00:58] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - Hackers Don't Use The Front Door - http://sylnt.us - what-could-go-wrong
[01:01:03] * arti greets prospectacle in the usual manner
[01:01:22] <prospectacle> uh oh does that mean a rotten burrito
[01:01:28] <prospectacle> how's things arti?
[01:01:49] <arti> coming along nicely, solved a subtle issue with an application that has haunted me for about two days
[01:01:55] <arti> yay for assumptions
[01:02:12] <arti> had a referral come through as well for a project, so that's nice :D
[01:02:21] <arti> haskell is making more sense, too.
[01:02:53] <prospectacle> sound good. what did the subtle-issue turn out to be when you found it
[01:03:52] <arti> i assumed the id of an element was the same as an index from a table, the ids are relative (1 to X)
[01:04:00] <arti> per page
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[01:04:43] <arti> the content is dynamically generated, i did really limited testing when building it and it didn't crop up until later.
[01:05:08] <arti> when you're just starting out all the indices are low, when you start adding and removing it gets a little weird, which is when i caught it
[01:05:13] <arti> it was a rookie move
[01:08:40] <prospectacle> arti, yeah I got caught recently assuming that rowid in an sqlite would stay the same
[01:08:49] <prospectacle> but vacuum the db and you're fucked
[01:09:15] <prospectacle> you can explicitly the declare the (implicit) rowid column as autoincrement primary key and you'll be right, but if you don't, good luck keeping your bookrmarks working.
[01:09:23] <arti> hahahaha
[01:09:27] <arti> "...wtf!"
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[01:10:11] <prospectacle> yeah, so much for the convenience of having an implicit unique id column
[01:13:08] <prospectacle> arti, should I learn haskell? What kinds of things is it best for?
[01:13:26] * arti likes to tinker with stuff
[01:13:40] <arti> it's a functional programming language, something foreign t ome
[01:13:59] <arti> the syntax is terse and different
[01:14:07] <arti> it's a type safe language
[01:14:42] <arti> awesome for concurrency and it's pretty quick
[01:15:38] <arti> i like a lot of the ideas in it, it has taken me awhile to wrap my brain around it.
[01:15:59] <prospectacle> sounds kind of like a mathematical syntax
[01:16:41] <arti> yeah, algebraic data types
[01:16:54] <arti> theres more to it, here's an example from the other day
[01:17:02] <arti> crutchy showed me something cool in delphi, records
[01:17:25] <arti> data Day = Monday | Tuesday | Wednesday | Thursday | Friday | Saturday | Sunday
[01:17:26] <arti> deriving (Eq, Ord, Show, Read, Bounded, Enum)
[01:18:32] <arti> this creates a day data type, which works like an enumerated type, as well as being able to be converted to and from strings
[01:18:53] <arti> so you can do something like: Saturday == Sunday (this returns false)
[01:19:07] <arti> or Wednesday < Friday (this returns true)
[01:19:41] <prospectacle> interesting
[01:19:51] <arti> succ Tuesday (returns Wednesday)
[01:19:58] <arti> or check this out for making a list
[01:20:08] <arti> [Tuesday .. Friday]
[01:20:20] <arti> that'll return [Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday]
[01:21:01] <arti> it has some cool creature comforts, i've not really delved into file or socket stuff yet
[01:22:06] <arti> https://www.fpcomplete.com
[01:22:17] <prospectacle> that does look very terse but probably in a good way once you're used to it
[01:22:37] <arti> beats allocating something of some size, then iterating through stuff to poke it in
[01:22:50] <arti> haskell does loops through recursion
[01:23:13] <arti> well it does most everything through that, saying loops only is incorrect...
[01:26:12] <prospectacle> hmm. How is the performance?
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[01:26:21] <arti> pretty awesome
[01:29:41] <arti> here's something http://lambda.jstolarek.com
[01:30:36] <prospectacle> cool thanks
[01:31:23] <prospectacle> one thing I hate about c is having to specify a size for everything. If you can keep high performance while getting rid of that little requirement it would be a good thing.
[01:31:36] <arti> lots of boiler plate code
[01:32:02] <arti> c has its uses, it's the most portable :D
[01:32:46] <prospectacle> yes it has a great many virtues. I'm just lazy and don't like telling the computer things it can work out for itself if it could just about be bothered.
[01:32:54] * arti nods
[01:33:17] <arti> im interested to get into string parsing, i need a better understand of monads
[01:33:54] <prospectacle> string parsing in haskell or in general?
[01:34:03] <arti> i just like that since its type safe it catches a bunch of crap at compile time
[01:34:14] <arti> in haskell
[01:34:31] * arti wants to write a webservice backend in haskell
[01:35:36] <prospectacle> I've heard the best way to learn string parsing is to write an interpreter for the language you're using to write the interpreter
[01:35:43] <prospectacle> but I've never attempted it myself
[01:35:56] <arti> likewise
[01:36:51] <arti> the aha moment came when looking at how to create a type that works like javascript
[01:37:11] <arti> where blank is false, 0 is false, false is false
[01:37:21] <arti> etc
[01:37:35] <prospectacle> yeah, javascript is funny about things that don't exist
[01:38:26] <arti> another lang was F#
[01:38:41] <arti> seemed like a good mix, besides the whole CLR
[01:38:53] * arti in the end i opted for haskell
[01:38:55] <prospectacle> is f# a .net language?
[01:41:24] * prospectacle remembers that wikipedia exists...
[01:41:34] <arti> http://fsharp.org
[01:41:36] <arti> scope it
[01:41:49] <arti> seems like a hybrid, mostly functional with some throwbacks
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[01:44:00] <prospectacle> cool it's got a live tutorial
[01:44:28] <arti> http://tryhaskell.org
[01:45:04] <prospectacle> i saw one of those with golang the other day
[01:45:21] <arti> that's also on my list to scope out, and dart >.>
[01:46:38] <prospectacle> I think I should learn some more languages. Stretch my brain. I've become institutionalised. I write virtually everything in php cause I know it so well.
[01:47:17] <prospectacle> I had to go through a bunch of db files in a folder, open them, delete some indexes: did it in php running on apache.
[01:47:20] <arti> i do lots of php myself
[01:47:29] <arti> php is awesome
[01:47:45] <arti> especially for string stuff
[01:47:50] <prospectacle> Wanted to take the text of a short story and render it as a picture (fixed width font, colour each letter) that relates to that story. 20 lines of php on apache.
[01:48:01] <prospectacle> Yeah definitely excels at strings
[01:48:06] <arti> it has a bunch of warts, no doubt
[01:48:14] <arti> javascript is the same way, but you can make it sing
[01:48:37] <prospectacle> yes, true. You have to learn a lot of what not to do.
[01:48:46] <arti> c works the same way
[01:48:53] <prospectacle> javascript is awesome once you start to get into closures and prototypes
[01:49:26] * arti recommends effective javascript /book
[01:49:37] <MrBluze> javascript is a PITA when there are countless unknown exploits in the wild and enabling it for the simplest menu function means you become vulnerable
[01:49:51] <arti> that's why you do the menus through css >.>
[01:49:52] <MrBluze> but otherwise js is awesome
[01:50:11] <MrBluze> arti: that's why we need to have NO JS necessary .. but JS if you want, for luxury
[01:50:35] <arti> well if you write the site properly you can do that
[01:50:40] * MrBluze nods
[01:50:44] <MrBluze> exactly
[01:50:51] <MrBluze> anyway bbl :) ciao
[01:50:52] <arti> static pages for you, oh js? here's your interactive app
[01:50:55] * arti salutes
[01:51:33] <prospectacle> MrBluze, it's relatively secure these days. It's certainly one of the most examined and used sandboxes around, so it's getting pretty good.
[01:51:37] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - National Reconnaissance Office Satellite Due for Launch on Thursday - http://sylnt.us - mostly-classified-except-the-press-release
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[01:52:15] <arti> its still not a good idea to execute code from somewhere else blindly, but yeah
[01:52:27] * arti likes drag and drop image uploads
[01:52:55] <prospectacle> MrBluze, the web has lots of vulnerabilties, of course, because it's such a popular target, but I don't think js is worse than other aspects (css rendering, ssl, cross site request forgery, etc)
[01:53:19] <prospectacle> oops missed him again.
[01:53:45] * arti coughs at pdf and falsh
[01:53:51] <arti> s/falsh/flash/
[01:53:51] <prospectacle> arti, well, loading any web page is executing code from somewhere else blindly. JS or no
[01:53:51] <SedBot> <arti> coughs at pdf and flash
[01:54:00] <arti> markup is not code :)
[01:54:17] * arti begins the holywar
[01:54:17] <prospectacle> At hte pwntoown contests I believe css rendering bugs have been exploited, for example.
[01:54:53] <prospectacle> arti, if there are bugs in the markup rendering/parsing system, you can potentially inject data or code where it's not wanted.
[01:55:29] <arti> correct, but formatting isn't code :P
[01:55:56] <arti> bugs are bugs, and this is due to mixing data and code
[01:58:30] <prospectacle> arti, your'e rigth that html isn't a programming language. I think the security principle is the same though, since the browser implements complex actions according to the html, and the specific html is not predictable.
[01:59:34] <arti> just break out the stockades for developers :P
[01:59:48] <arti> "4 hours of public shaming"
[01:59:49] <prospectacle> yes that would be a good motivator.
[02:00:17] <arti> make it so the jobs are highly prized then, "oodles of dollars for you sir"
[02:00:24] <prospectacle> Or you have to stand in the stree with a sandwich board "I didn't range check my array parser and I allowed your memory to be injected with arbitrary code"
[02:03:37] <prospectacle> Reading that "effective javascript" book on amazon, thanks for the tip.
[02:04:13] * arti is debugging some stuff
[02:04:29] <arti> yeah, it's a pretty cool book
[02:04:58] <prospectacle> well, better go. Have a good time.
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[03:04:07] <cykros> out of curiosity, does anyone here use CAPatrol?
[03:04:20] <cykros> and if so, have you too noticed a ton of new SSL certs today?
[03:04:40] <cykros> i can only assume it's the reaction to the SSL flaw and heartbleed, but i kind of want to make sure i'm not under a mitm attack
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[03:10:36] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - Infant Mattresses Emit Volatile Organic Compounds - http://sylnt.us - not-the-answer-but-maybe-a-step-towards-it
[03:15:14] <cykros> ahh, okay, given which sites it's popping up on out of the known problem sites, i'm almost certain it's just a matter of patching holes
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[03:15:26] <cykros> kind of had me worried for a second...not every day everyone changes their SSL certs
[03:15:29] <cykros> en masse
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[03:34:18] <Blackmoore_> @cykros it is related to heartbleed. everyone is assuming the existing SSL is comprimised
[03:40:59] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - Broken Homepage Issues Partially Resolved - http://sylnt.us - yay-for-old-slashcode-bugs
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[03:51:07] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - Call for Suggestions for Site Name Vote - http://sylnt.us - I-thought-the-name-was-bacconmuffinnews
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[04:06:12] <Blackmoore_> Can anyone recommend a good book on Java? I'm trying to pick it up (after a long hiatus from dev)
[04:09:19] <arti> http://programmers.stackexchange.com ?
[04:09:33] <arti> well i guess this is a non starter, do to you not being a starter
[04:09:37] * arti drinks more
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[04:21:30] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - UK Police May be Overusing Data-Gathering Powers - http://sylnt.us - tell-me-it-aint-so
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[04:37:12] <VitalMoss> Oy, sup guys.
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[04:52:39] * SpallsHurgenson mutters to himself
[04:53:08] * NightHawk pokes SpallHurgenson,,, it'll be okay buddy, help is on the way
[04:56:35] <SpallsHurgenson> I wish I knew what I was looking for, that would make the search so much easier
[05:08:58] * NightHawk hugs SpallsHurgenson, I know just how ya feel man *tears-up*
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[05:18:28] <Blackmoore_> @arti - thanks, i was looking at head first java
[05:19:02] <Blackmoore_> @spalls it will get better. I'm sure we can find you some bacon
[05:20:14] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - SQL Injection Driven too Far? - http://sylnt.us - drop-db-table-like-it's-hot
[05:20:31] * SpallsHurgenson "borrowed" some work he found on the web for a project he is doing, with the intention of asking for permission later before I actually published (or, barring that replacing it with my own stuff)... except I forgot where I got it from so now I don't know who to ask :)
[05:21:35] <Blackmoore_> doh
[05:21:48] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: look for unique phrase or two and search for it?
[05:21:48] <NightHawk> don't bing/google offer a search function that works off image files by now?
[05:24:31] <Blackmoore_> @arti the painful thing for me is it has been so dmn long - it feels like i have to learn everything over. like i came back and even tho the words are englinsh the grammer changed completely
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[05:47:52] <SpallsHurgenson> Eureaka!
[05:51:00] <Blackmoore_> :)
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[06:04:17] <SpallsHurgenson> well, that took far more effort than I anticipated.
[06:04:34] <SpallsHurgenson> now for SEXYTIME!
[06:05:16] * SpallsHurgenson does a provactive dance
[06:05:34] <crutchy> ke?
[06:08:34] <Blackmoore_> :P
[06:09:11] <Blackmoore_> well I think I'll go find a different sexy time.. the wife is upstairs.. g'night
[06:09:24] <crutchy> tmi lol
[06:09:38] <crutchy> you making me jealous
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[06:10:15] <Blackmoore_> http://renfaireboobs.com
[06:10:30] <Blackmoore_> here you go. I'm sure she's on there someplace
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[06:11:26] <SpallsHurgenson> wait, wait... Mom?
[06:12:33] <crutchy> lol
[06:12:34] <crutchy> http://slashdot.org
[06:12:40] <crutchy> ^^^
[06:13:29] <NightHawk> http://slashdot.org
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[06:13:52] <SpallsHurgenson> I did some trick with a slashdot cookie months ago, so beta isn't an immediate worry :)
[06:14:13] <crutchy> i did a trick too... i bailed on it :-D
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[06:33:55] <combatserver> Any devs on?
[06:34:01] <combatserver> Editors?
[06:34:12] <MrBluze> <-- sort of editor
[06:34:14] <MrBluze> wassup
[06:34:48] <combatserver> Take a look at my post in the "SQL Injection Driven too Far?" article.....a CLOSE look.
[06:35:52] <crutchy> ol' bobby tables strikes again
[06:36:03] <MrBluze> broken link
[06:36:51] <combatserver> I think it was more than that.
[06:37:41] <combatserver> Take the text from my post, and remove the tag added by SN, and reassemble the link. Take a look at it.
[06:37:59] <MrBluze> okay
[06:38:01] <combatserver> I think it WAS an SQL injection.
[06:38:43] <MrBluze> it's a redirect
[06:38:55] <MrBluze> oh..
[06:39:03] <combatserver> The moment I clicked the link in the article, and loaded the wordpress blog, it changed the link in the article for me from the blog to xkcd.
[06:39:14] <combatserver> You see?
[06:39:15] <crutchy> maybe someone was writing about fuel injection and someone did some sql injection to change it to sql injection :-P
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[06:40:08] <MrBluze> hmmm
[06:40:33] <MrBluze> we should test that in a dev environment
[06:40:45] <combatserver> Now look at the submitters profile: https://soylentnews.org
[06:41:17] <combatserver> Dude, we just got pwned.
[06:41:39] <MrBluze> NCommander: ping
[06:42:35] <MrBluze> hmm.. how though
[06:42:42] <MrBluze> where is the sql injection occurring
[06:42:53] <combatserver> his fucking webpage is a boat ad.
[06:44:17] <combatserver> That page he redirected to is a set-up. It's a clearly illegal act that page describes, IN DETAIL. And he is tricking people into loading it.
[06:44:21] <NCommander> MrBluze, pong
[06:44:27] <NCommander> MrBluze, its not inject, just managed data
[06:46:05] <MrBluze> ok
[06:47:56] <crutchy> lol classic: http://xkcd.com
[06:48:28] <MrBluze> combatserver: i thought his page just redirects
[06:48:43] <MrBluze> to do an sql injection he'd need to be doing more than that
[06:49:06] <combatserver> If it was a broken link, it never would have taken me to the wordpress blog. So why then did it show as a broken link when I cut-pasted it into a comment field?
[06:49:28] <MrBluze> depends.. wordpress may have a plugin
[06:49:32] <MrBluze> ?
[06:49:32] <combatserver> specifically, a SN comment filed...
[06:49:50] <NCommander> Dev.SN requires you to wait between each successful posting of a comment to allow everyone a fair chance at posting a comment.
[06:49:50] <NCommander> It's been 18 seconds since you last successfully posted a comment
[06:49:51] <NCommander> Huh
[06:49:54] <NCommander> I thought we killed that
[06:50:01] <MrBluze> ok im sort of following u but can u explain how he's done it?
[06:50:52] <combatserver> Slashcode appends each link with a the top-level domain, for transparency. That link was split into two parts, and Slashcode appended each part.
[06:51:16] <crutchy> lmao: https://xkcd.com
[06:51:23] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - If You've Done No Wrong, You've Nothing To Fear. - http://sylnt.us - unless-you-are-LE-of-course
[06:51:29] <MrBluze> hmm the html shows the broken link, and u click it (there is no js involved)
[06:51:33] <MrBluze> and it redirects
[06:51:41] <crutchy> imagines ncommander being the guy they're talking about in that last xkcd
[06:51:53] <combatserver> Which means Slashcode sees two different parts, neither of which is valid.
[06:52:16] <Cyprus> am i missing something?
[06:52:20] <Cyprus> i only see the correct link
[06:52:22] <combatserver> The next point.....why did the link in the ARTCLE suddenly change from that wordpress blog, to the actual XKCD link?
[06:52:48] <combatserver> Who changed it?
[06:52:57] <MrBluze> ah see.. gimme a sec
[06:53:13] <crutchy> where can i see this evolving link?
[06:53:26] <combatserver> It has evolved--nothing left to see.
[06:53:42] <combatserver> Its just an xkcd link now.
[06:54:04] <crutchy> ooh which one
[06:54:09] <MrBluze> the article has been edited many times
[06:54:09] * crutchy is on xkcd now
[06:54:33] <combatserver> But before that, it was a link to a wordpress site, but the link was broken up just link an SQL injection would be. Even Slashcode caught it.
[06:54:52] * MrBluze is sensing some de ja vu
[06:55:08] <crutchy> http://xkcd.com
[06:55:19] <combatserver> Don't tease me, MrBluze. What?
[06:55:20] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm going to have a branch for you in a few mintues
[06:55:24] <crutchy> you took the blue pill didn't you mrbluze
[06:55:32] <MrBluze> we had some sql problem early on in this saga
[06:56:12] <combatserver> And it shows up in an article ABOUT SQL injections? Dont you find that a little odd?
[06:56:35] <MrBluze> well i don't discount any weird thing - weird stuff is what fact is made up of
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[06:57:04] <crutchy> like the chewy beef that makes up all matter
[06:57:18] <crutchy> except for bacon of course
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[06:57:45] <combatserver> You have no way of finding out who modified that one link? It was done AFTER it went to the frontpage.
[06:58:20] <combatserver> mrcoolbp didn't do it?
[06:58:22] <MrBluze> yeah i can see who did it
[06:58:47] <combatserver> Ask them why they changed it.
[06:58:50] <crutchy> was it natalie portman?
[06:58:53] <MrBluze> 4 hours later someone did that
[06:59:20] <combatserver> later than what? It hasn't even been up that long.
[06:59:30] <combatserver> After submission?
[06:59:35] <combatserver> Or after posting?
[06:59:36] <NCommander> paulej72, it appears by fixing form keys, we brought back rate limiting
[06:59:38] <crutchy> rofl: http://xkcd.com
[06:59:44] <crutchy> so true
[07:00:31] <paulej72> NCommander: formkeys has its own rate limiting I think
[07:00:33] <MrBluze> after posting
[07:00:53] <NCommander> paulej72, so, found a bug, AC posts don't generate comment notification :-)
[07:01:12] <crutchy> a bug in slash!?
[07:01:40] <combatserver> Did you take a look at that blog, MrBluze?
[07:01:58] <MrBluze> yes
[07:02:07] <NCommander> paulej72, ok, my branch seems to work fully, stand by for pull request
[07:02:08] <MrBluze> its a bit illegal i guess .. in many countries
[07:02:12] <combatserver> That should never have made it to the front page.
[07:03:03] <combatserver> Anyone with that shit in their cache could be held criminally liable, in multiple jurisdictions.
[07:03:15] <MrBluze> maybe
[07:03:36] <MrBluze> well .. i dunno i try to check all the links out in a safe browser before i go ahead
[07:03:36] <MrBluze> and i rtfa
[07:03:36] <combatserver> Dude, you can't go loading maybes like that on the front page.
[07:03:53] <MrBluze> ill chat with mrcoolbp about it .. its a good point
[07:04:06] <MrBluze> bit of a shady poster
[07:04:28] <combatserver> It's a content issue, not technical. It's also a legal issue.
[07:04:47] <NCommander> paulej72, https://github.com
[07:07:27] <paulej72> NCommander: did you add the email footter to some template? as the commit had all deletes and only one smaill blank line addition
[07:07:49] <NCommander> paulej72, the footer was actually already there; it was getting double sent
[07:08:07] <NCommander> paulej72, wait
[07:08:09] <NCommander> Stand by
[07:08:12] <NCommander> Fuck
[07:08:46] <paulej72> !grab NCommander
[07:08:46] <Gerbilius> Added quote 106
[07:09:24] <NCommander> paulej72, its only getting added to some messages
[07:09:38] <NCommander> paulej72, *grumble* *grumble* *grumble*
[07:10:03] <paulej72> Daily newsletter did not have double footer
[07:10:13] <NCommander> paulej72, yeah, its only getting selectively added
[07:10:15] <NCommander> due to MAGIC
[07:10:19] <NCommander> But we want this on all emails
[07:10:20] <NCommander> SO
[07:10:25] * NCommander fiddles a bit more
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[07:13:59] <paulej72> NCommander: I look at it tomorrow as i really need to get to bed
[07:16:30] <NCommander> paulej72, k, sleep well
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[07:20:49] <combatserver> <---wirebrushed cache
[07:23:18] <combatserver> Let me put this in perspective--Imagine some dude sitting in the Mumbai airport, waiting for a flight to the US. While there he goes to SN on his laptop and follows that link in the SQL injection article, loading it into cache and his browser history. As most airports do, security claims the right to search digital devices, and does so. On his computer they find EXACT INSTRUCTIONS on how to...
[07:23:19] <combatserver> ...hack a Indian government-funded agencies website. Guess who ain't catching his flight home?
[07:23:57] <combatserver> It's no different than loading a kiddie-porn website link on the front page.
[07:27:56] <combatserver> IMHO, It's an intentional effort to ruin the credibility of SoylentNews, and SET UP it users.
[07:28:45] * NightHawk didn't realise tinfoil hats were still in fasion!
[07:29:36] <NightHawk> This is the internet, sometimes bad stuff happens. Chill-out :-D
[07:29:48] <arti> it's all a matter of perspective
[07:31:30] <combatserver> I don't buy it. The submitter obviously used a throw-away account. His "homepage" is a boat ad and he has submitted more than posted...a whopping three times.
[07:31:58] <NightHawk> We're not selling it
[07:32:15] <NightHawk> s/not/not exactly/
[07:32:15] <SedBot> <NightHawk> We're not exactly selling it
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[07:37:50] <combatserver> Man, I hate to be negative here, but you guys are being seriously naive about this. It's called a Death-of-a-thousand-cuts. Little efforts, that individually mean little to most, yet add up to a fatal blow to reputation.
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[07:39:18] <combatserver> It's a standard MO in psy/ops. Main reason I left Slashdot is because I didn't trust them anymore. Someone is doing the same thing here.
[07:40:01] <MrBluze> combatserver: ... i am hearing u
[07:40:07] <MrBluze> dont get me wrong on that :)
[07:40:39] <combatserver> The Editors are the frontline defense against this--they need to follow every single link, and even pay attention to the link on THOSE pages.
[07:40:46] <MrBluze> yes
[07:40:56] <MrBluze> they need to follow the links on noscript enabled tor imho
[07:41:20] <MrBluze> otherwise u might as well go take a ladyboy in bankok without protection
[07:41:37] <MrBluze> brb :)
[07:41:42] <combatserver> Well, thankfully, I didn't run any scripts there, but I bet some did.
[07:43:00] <MrBluze> i will be discussing the links checking issue, i assure u of that.
[07:43:07] <combatserver> Thank you.
[07:46:07] <combatserver> Any way to investigate what happened to that link in my post in the SQL thread? I've NEVER seen Slashcode break a link like that, so it must be something with the link itself.
[07:46:32] <combatserver> Odd thing is, even though it appears broken, the first fragment still works fine.
[07:46:52] <MrBluze> ive seen it b4
[07:47:23] <combatserver> Why does Slashcode append the hanging portion? It isn't even a functional link.
[07:48:12] <chromas> You can take off the whole thing after the date in that link, combatserver
[07:49:06] <chromas> Well you need at least one letter or it shows everything from that day
[07:49:19] <combatserver> You know, I was just recently hearing something about URL splitting, where the URL actually links to two URLs, one being hidden from the browser, but still loaded into memory. Perhaps this?
[07:50:01] <combatserver> I just tried to find that same article again--no dice.
[07:50:56] <MrBluze> possibly...
[07:51:30] <MrBluze> but our paranoia must be backed by some kind of evidence
[07:51:33] <MrBluze> proofs etc
[07:51:48] <MrBluze> however linking to something that encourages u to do naughty stuff at a known target is .. naughty
[07:53:06] <combatserver> It seems odd that both things would show up in the same submission.
[07:54:05] <combatserver> Dude, if I had access and knowhow, I'd be looking into it myself, but I don't and I don't. And I would have done so before even mentioning it here.
[07:56:34] <MrBluze> it does look like a redirect
[07:56:44] <MrBluze> so the issue is more the nature of the link
[07:58:50] <combatserver> Could they have possibly used the link as an injection in the submission form?
[07:59:55] <MrBluze> hmm
[08:00:10] <MrBluze> as i recall the sql injection problem was looked into in slash
[08:00:17] <MrBluze> well the possibility of it
[08:00:21] <combatserver> If so, that would make SN the target, not users.
[08:00:49] <MrBluze> there has been a fair bit of work put into safeguarding the server and afaik there hasnt been anything unusual happening
[08:01:06] <combatserver> afayk
[08:01:31] <MrBluze> well i havent looked at logs or anything as i am not sys
[08:03:16] <combatserver> The Slashcode response to that link--appending two portions of it, redundantly--would indicate that the second portion was the injection/split URL, as the first portion does it's job as expected.
[08:03:45] <combatserver> Whatever was left hanging is...well, no clue.
[08:03:54] <combatserver> That's what worries me.
[08:04:07] <MrBluze> ive seen this before on slash
[08:04:13] <MrBluze> some weird whitespace crap put in the html
[08:04:25] <combatserver> Did you ever figure out what caused it?
[08:04:54] <combatserver> Hrmm....whitespace? Elaborate?
[08:05:00] <MrBluze> i dont think so hmm well
[08:05:14] <combatserver> It just added spaces?
[08:05:51] <combatserver> If that's the case, it would have truly broken the link. It just did it VISUALLY?
[08:07:23] <combatserver> I've come across transparency-adjusted fonts, but that wouldn't explain slashcode appending it twice.
[08:08:23] <MrBluze> the nobr / wb / nobr sequence i saw before
[08:08:53] <MrBluze> some how the link u pasted might have had a character that was illegal and it killed your link
[08:08:58] <combatserver> I'm not a coder...what does wb refer to?
[08:09:15] <MrBluze> wbr i dunno
[08:09:43] <combatserver> nobr = no break, correct?
[08:09:56] <MrBluze> yes
[08:10:42] <MrBluze> word break .. wbr
[08:10:42] <combatserver> So, visually, as it is displayed, it appears unbroken as a result of the nobr bookends, with a hidden package in themiddle.
[08:10:52] <MrBluze> but there's no package
[08:10:53] <combatserver> ahh...ok.
[08:10:55] <MrBluze> view the soure
[08:11:15] <combatserver> viewing...
[08:11:17] <chromas> You can find them all over the cyan site: (view source) http://news.slashdot.org
[08:11:35] <MrBluze> yeah i think it is a link processing bug in slash
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[08:13:20] <chromas> It always seems to be followed by punctuation, like colons or slashes or dots
[08:15:15] <MrBluze> brb
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[08:20:00] <combatserver> Kind of pointless looking at elements for the article as it stands--the original link has been removed.
[08:20:30] <chromas> I never saw it there. I was only looking at the one in your comment
[08:20:36] <combatserver> So the only sources to look at would be the original submission, and perhaps my post where I copy-pasted it.
[08:21:05] <combatserver> It looked exactly like the one in my post, minus the break.
[08:21:19] <combatserver> But still read xkcd
[08:21:57] <combatserver> It didn't actually go to xkcd, it went to the link in my post. (might not want to actually go to that link with scripts running).
[08:22:09] <chromas> noscript here
[08:22:43] <chromas> Kind of funny that slash wraps the <wbr> tag in <nobr> tags
[08:22:52] <combatserver> same, but it still loaded everything I needed to know about hacking the National Programme on Technology Enhanced Learning webpage
[08:23:28] <combatserver> Well, it ripped an xkcd comic and taped it to the top of the article.
[08:24:02] <chromas> That how-to page is from 2012. Who wants to 'test' if the NPTEL site has been fixed? :)
[08:24:31] <combatserver> That's not the point--authorities can use it against anyone carrying it.
[08:25:39] <combatserver> Like I said earlier, not much different than lugging around kiddy-porn on a laptop, as far as the authorities are concerned. Precisely why I screamed fire when I noticed it.
[08:30:04] * MrBluze nods
[08:30:27] <swiss> btw, does soylent have an rss feed
[08:30:29] <MrBluze> this is why apple having time machine automatically running on your hdd and keeping a history of all activity going back who knows how long, is dodgy
[08:30:38] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - New Violins Chosen Over Stradivarius in Blind Test - http://sylnt.us - music-to-our-ears
[08:30:59] <swiss> MrBluze: huh?
[08:31:11] <chromas> swiss: Yeah
[08:31:19] <swiss> chromas: what's the url
[08:31:21] <swiss> i couldn't easily find it
[08:31:32] <chromas> It's at the bottom of the page
[08:31:35] <combatserver> Well, Edward Snowden gave us all an out--we can now just claim the NSA did it, or anyone else for that matter.
[08:31:41] <chromas> swiss: http://soylentnews.org
[08:31:42] <MrBluze> swiss: .. OSX currenly, a bit like MS, deliberately collects your user data and stores it for ages and ages
[08:31:58] <swiss> chromas: thanks
[08:32:19] <MrBluze> anyway thing is u r right, combatserver - browsers of sites have to be careful on links they click, we should not be tripping people over if we can avoid it
[08:32:20] <swiss> MrBluze: meh, my data is worth more to me than anyone else, i don't care if they have it if it means I don't lose it :P
[08:32:21] <chromas> NSA is the new Ceiling Cat
[08:32:41] <MrBluze> its incrimination that is the problem
[08:32:48] <MrBluze> the data is innert, but it can get u in trouble
[08:32:56] <chromas> swiss: Do you think they'll send you a copy if you need it?
[08:33:23] <swiss> chromas: i'll ask nicely :P
[08:33:42] <combatserver> Editors should also be following links in submissions with zero script protections--if they can't handle the heat, don't invite anyone into the kitchen. Know what I mean?
[08:33:49] <swiss> also, i'm moreso talking about how their systems (while they might sneak off data) keep my data more effectively than any i've set up myself
[08:33:58] <chromas> http://swiss.cloudbackups.nsa
[08:34:32] <MrBluze> good points combatserver
[08:34:33] <swiss> pft, the nsa doesn't care that much about my data
[08:34:44] <MrBluze> i will discuss possibility of doing editing in a vm
[08:34:52] <MrBluze> so potential for damage is mitigated
[08:35:20] <combatserver> That would be an excellent response. Let it all in, if any of it is dangerous, reject the article.
[08:35:53] <swiss> speaking of danger, that new GameOver varient sucks
[08:36:14] <chromas> You could change all links to the text-only google cache :)
[08:37:00] <swiss> anyone else in here do malware analysis?
[08:51:15] <MrBluze> yup
[08:51:40] <MrBluze> i dont do malware analysis .. just ... yup.. to the topic
[09:16:30] <arti> but you did stay at a holliday inn express last night?
[09:16:46] <arti> s/holliday/holiday/
[09:16:46] <SedBot> <arti> but you did stay at a holiday inn express last night?
[09:17:04] <arti> NSA is the "new" trump
[09:25:30] <swiss> wat
[09:25:51] * arti belches hello
[09:26:05] <arti> how is the malware analysis coming along?
[09:26:27] <swiss> i don't really do it at night
[09:26:48] <swiss> but i confirmed that the C2 server (more like payload storage server) was compromised through out of date wordpress
[09:27:05] <arti> heh
[09:27:12] <arti> ownedpress
[09:27:18] <swiss> yeah
[09:27:33] <swiss> this Zeus GameOver stuff is pretty damned crazy
[09:27:43] <swiss> when did malware devs get this smart
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[09:28:04] <arti> better pay :D
[09:28:14] <swiss> huh?
[09:28:21] <arti> also, sounds like a fun challenge
[09:29:06] <swiss> i'll give you the payload and decoder if you want to have a crack at it
[09:29:24] <swiss> i'm not actually doing it for work, they don't pay me to be a RE
[09:29:43] <arti> we need alberto
[09:29:57] <swiss> lol
[09:30:17] * arti doesn't have enough mana to summon him
[09:34:45] * MrBluze summons him
[09:42:53] <MrBluze> WikiLeaks release: Internet governance body trying to stop NSA surveillance
[09:43:53] <MrBluze> .. you'll know they have succeeded when a plane full of the executive members of NETmundial crashes in the ocean
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[09:51:06] <combatserver> I see you read my post about "Royal Concierge"
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[10:05:03] <combatserver> MrBluze: I did what I do best and researched a bit--The guy (egp) that posted that article about SQL injection is harmless. He is an ex-programmer (no obvious ties to evil corporations), that appears to have dropped the IT market for being a scuba Dive-boat captain (thus his homepage being a flyer to sell his dive-boat) and now works for Burlington Northern Santa Fe railways as a software...
[10:05:04] <combatserver> ...consultant (my guess, IT security, based on previous experience). Regardless, the content of that link should have been a red-flag for the Editors, and the alteration to the link should have been done BEFORE it made it to the front page.
[10:05:48] <combatserver> As such, I concur--the link weirdness is more than likely Slashcode bugginess.
[10:08:20] <combatserver> Too bad the dive-boat business didn't work out--it looked like a hell of a way to spend ones days.
[10:12:27] <combatserver> As for the link itself, the guy that runs that blog seems to have gone into the business of farming clicks with numerous blogs and other sites. If there was any monkey-business going on, it probably came from his direction.
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[10:27:23] <combatserver> Hrmm...That wordpress blog was abandoned. He isn't even using it anymore. He has his own non-wordpress blog and he removed all of the trackers/clickfarmers from it.
[10:31:33] <moo_kuh> name suggestion: www.newsdotorg.net
[10:32:43] <combatserver> I did, however find this...It might explain the weird re-direct behavior you saw earlier, MrBluze: http://www.cvedetails.com
[10:33:17] <combatserver> ...that hanging bit of URL being the "crafted string"?
[10:34:27] <combatserver> Perhaps someone is simply using his old blog as a means to implement that vulnerability.
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[11:10:59] <crutchy> realmenuse.org is available :-P
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[13:24:16] <MrBluze> yummy scrumptious bacon
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[13:30:10] <crutchy> s/blue/bluze/
[13:30:10] <SedBot> <crutchy> hey mrbluze
[13:31:41] <MrBluze> hey crutchy
[13:31:48] <MrBluze> hows things
[13:34:34] <crutchy> not bad
[13:34:37] <crutchy> making some tucker
[13:36:00] <MrBluze> yum
[13:58:49] * Subsentient wants the topic to be "Moooom! There's a talking onion in the toilet!"
[13:59:23] <MrBluze> a soylent onion
[13:59:56] * Subsentient just realized how creepy that actually is
[14:00:43] <Subsentient> Gerbilius: help
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[14:52:17] <crutchy> .op
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[15:35:34] <Blackmoore> mornin
[15:37:29] <Bytram> morning!
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[15:42:03] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Discover how Charge Transfer Works - http://sylnt.us - it's-Electric
[15:42:17] <TK> mornin
[15:42:43] <TK> Any word on the "new stories not showing up for logged in users" bug?
[15:43:16] <Blackmoore> yeah, I think NC squashed that yesterday
[15:43:39] <Bytram> there was a post on the main page about it, I think... hold on.
[15:43:56] <TK> I still have author checkboxes on my preference page
[15:44:20] <Blackmoore> I do too;
[15:44:53] <Blackmoore> the fix was to reset that under the hood -
[15:44:58] <Bytram> okay, fwiw, I just refreshed the main page in my browser and DID see the just-posted article about how charge transfer works.
[15:45:08] <TK> I see the story from ncommander
[15:45:17] <Bytram> I don't think I have any author checkboxes ticked, though.
[15:45:21] <Bytram> still looking
[15:45:37] <Blackmoore> http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:03] <Blackmoore> now if it wasnt for the vote i wouldnt even have that link
[15:46:06] <Bytram> take a look at: http://soylentnews.org "Broken Homepage Issues Partially Resolved"
[15:49:01] <Bytram> Just checked my settings; it shows that I have ALL of the authors checked. Also, fwiw, I am currently running with JavaScript disabled.
[15:49:32] <Bytram> Blackmoore: does that help?
[15:50:40] <Blackmoore> if all the authors are checked that should be it
[15:51:07] <Blackmoore> it seems that that info was getting corpted in the DB
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[15:51:39] <Bytram> Blackmoore: do you have any authors not checked? I see 7 authors listed and have them all checked.
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[15:51:58] <Blackmoore> NC nuked that data and reset everyone to see "all" for now - (people who had on purpose turned an author off will have to fix that)
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[15:52:18] <Blackmoore> I dont have anyone unselected.
[15:52:36] <Bytram> Blackmoore: sorry, I should have been direecting my comments to TK; I plead under-caffienation :/
[15:52:59] <Subsentient> $commands
[15:52:59] <Blackmoore> yeah. too damn early
[15:53:21] <Bytram> Subsentient: ???
[15:54:08] <Subsentient> Bytram: sry
[15:54:18] <Bytram> separately, the typo in the Mazda sorty should be fixed soon; s/Maza/Mazda/
[15:54:42] <Bytram> Subsentient: no worries!
[15:55:00] <Bytram> TK: are things working okay for you now?
[15:55:42] <kobach> hi Bytram
[15:56:16] * Subsentient has been having a hard time with case sensitivity in channel parsing for aqu4bot
[15:56:21] <Bytram> kobach: g'mornin
[15:56:33] * Subsentient thinks he fixed it
[16:06:44] <Blackmoore> http://xkcd.com
[16:07:08] <Blackmoore> that damn heartbleed. (read the text under the comic)
[16:07:46] <TK> oh yeah
[16:08:00] <TK> since about 2pm yesterday when I read the github error page
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[16:08:15] <TK> For me, resetting my preferences to default worked
[16:09:24] <TK> Good to know it's "fixed forever" though
[16:09:48] <TK> Maybe I should add a second set of quotation marks to the statement
[16:09:57] <TK> that statement*
[16:11:00] <Bytram> TK: glad it's working for you!
[16:14:02] <NCommander> morning
[16:15:14] <Blackmoore> morning
[16:15:36] <crutchy|zzz> holy shit is this real: https://www.youtube.com
[16:16:44] <TK> Gonna need more details, skip
[16:19:03] <Subsentient> night'
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[16:25:29] <Blackmoore> ah flappy birds.
[16:26:36] <Blackmoore> the reason i am geting back into dev.
[16:27:08] <Blackmoore> because if this crap can bring in a dollar adownload. I wont need a day job
[16:28:24] <Teckla> This is really funny: http://www.motherjones.com
[16:30:40] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - A New Politics Built on Free Software Ideals? - http://sylnt.us - GNU-is-Not-Utopia
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[17:01:35] <TK> Blackmore: is that what the video crutchy posted is?
[17:01:53] <TK> I remember when that game was called helicopter.
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[17:16:42] <Blackmoore> @TK yeah. i cant watch it here but crutchy's link was to someone getting a 999 in flappy birds.
[17:17:35] <Blackmoore> yep. a lot of the game apps are just repackaging of older games
[17:18:10] <Blackmoore> and I figure - I have experience in writing OLD games.. so..
[17:18:44] <Blackmoore> who wouldnt want to play "pitfall!" with new graphics?
[17:19:10] <Blackmoore> and I'm sure someone would buy another revision of breakout.
[17:22:30] <TK> I'm sure there a a million different versions of breakout
[17:22:34] <TK> less sure about pitfall
[17:22:58] <TK> You should port the Atari ET game to iOS
[17:23:11] <TK> Then get people to play it "ironically"
[17:23:22] <TK> Wait, don't do that, that's my idea! Give it back!
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[17:49:21] <Blackmoore> @TK you can keep that idea. I played ET. i have even seen a "repaired" edition (you dont fall in pits as easy) game is so much crap..
[17:50:01] <Blackmoore> I think there's a landfill you'll want - if you are going for ironic
[17:51:28] <Blackmoore> http://whateverblog.dallasnews.com
[17:59:34] <TK> The point isn't a game that's fun or easy to play, or even one that's functiional. The point is to be seen playing it
[18:02:04] <NCommander> mysql> select count(*) from users where willing_to_vote != 0\G
[18:02:04] <NCommander> *************************** 1. row ***************************
[18:02:04] <NCommander> count(*): 330
[18:02:05] <NCommander> wow
[18:02:56] * NCommander notes we might have better voter turn out than the US :-)
[18:02:58] <NCommander> */troll*
[18:04:54] <TK> >10%?
[18:05:02] <TK> When does the voting email go out?
[18:11:56] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - Snowden Testimony to Council of Europe - http://sylnt.us - nothing-new-here
[18:14:23] <Cyprus> so, i feel bad, but the only reason i noticed that "willing to vote" option, was you guys just discussing it
[18:14:32] <Cyprus> i completely glossed over that in the article
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[18:14:58] <Cyprus> is it safe to even click save on that page now? i dont want to lose half the articles again
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[18:23:27] <NCommander> TK, 7 days
[18:23:50] <NCommander> Cyprus, we've got the mismatch fixed so the data written out will be valid
[18:24:03] <NCommander> Cyprus, when paulej72 or I fixed the backend properly, we're going to nuke the table again
[18:24:12] <NCommander> (irritating, but this is really really really stupid code)
[18:29:39] <Blackmoore> @TK i can't think of any less functional that data scraped off a rom that had been burried for 20-30 years
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[18:48:10] <TK> I guess I'll go check out some rom sites to see if someone's got one
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[19:08:24] <Blackmoore|lunch> @TK https://archive.org
[19:13:36] <TK> They don't have the actual game, just an info page. https://archive.org
[19:17:09] <Blackmoore|lunch> https://archive.org
[19:17:31] <NCommander> http://soylentnews.org - turns out mass moderation on polls is a bad idea :-P
[19:20:48] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - Cooking with Beer is a Good Idea - http://sylnt.us - beer-and-bbq
[19:21:46] <TK> http://coolrom.com.au
[19:22:21] <TK> If I wasn't at work, I'd be playing right now
[19:22:32] <TK> and quitting out of frustration five minutes later
[19:24:30] <Blackmoore|lunch> @NC make one spelling misteak...
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[19:44:47] <Blackmoore> @TK https://github.com
[19:45:05] <Blackmoore> new game on old system.. i guess that works too
[19:45:31] <Blackmoore> ah old school 6502 Asm
[19:56:40] <Teckla> Ah, yes. E.T. As kids, we called it, "E.T.: The Extra Testicle."
[20:02:21] <Blackmoore> *nods* yup.
[20:03:42] <TK> Teckla++
[20:03:42] <Gerbilius> karma - teckla: 1
[20:04:59] <dentonj> dentonj++
[20:05:04] <dentonj> :P
[20:05:27] <TK> dentonj--
[20:05:27] <Gerbilius> karma - dentonj: -1
[20:10:03] <Teckla> TK: Why thank you!
[20:10:39] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[20:10:39] <Gerbilius> karma - coffee: 14
[20:11:03] <Blackmoore> and i need another cup. even if this stuff is trying to eat through me.
[20:12:27] <TK> bathroom++
[20:12:27] <Gerbilius> karma - bathroom: 1
[20:13:08] <TK> @Blackmore, I think that could be the new mobile games fad: new games made to look old
[20:13:26] <TK> But you would have to start with the NES, or it won't catch on
[20:13:51] <TK> You're marketing to the 20-30 year old demographic
[20:14:43] <TK> Once it becomes fashionable, you can sell them the same game three times: one for the NES, one for the 2600, and one for the Coleco Vision
[20:21:05] <Blackmoore> I like the idea!
[20:21:31] <Blackmoore> as a matter of fact i was planning on NES or SNES like graphics on my games
[20:22:27] <Blackmoore> something retro about it. and frankly the type of game that work as an ap lean heavily back to the old 8-bit style games
[20:22:57] <Blackmoore> minimal controls, high replay cvalue
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[20:41:49] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - iPad Success for Canadian Newspaper - http://sylnt.us - dead-trees-are-dead-to-newspapers
[20:45:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> is there a way to ask Gerbilius how much karma some[one|thing] has?
[20:46:10] <mattie_p> !karma mattie_p
[20:46:10] <Gerbilius> karma of mattie_p is 15
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[20:46:24] <mattie_p> there you go
[20:46:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> neat, will have to remember that
[20:46:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> !karma NCommander
[20:47:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> Gerbilius doesn't like me :(
[20:47:04] * NCommander hates idiotic bugs
[20:47:14] <NCommander> !karma bacon
[20:47:14] <Gerbilius> karma of bacon is 211
[20:47:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> Everyone hates idiotic bugs. I hate them most when I wrote them.
[20:47:40] <mattie_p> hrm
[20:47:43] <mattie_p> !karma ncommander
[20:47:43] <Gerbilius> karma of ncommander is 17
[20:47:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> ????
[20:48:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> case-sensitive?
[20:48:06] <chromas> Lower case
[20:48:06] <NCommander> AndyTheAbsurd, I don't think you ever wrote automatic port scanning of your users
[20:48:15] <NCommander> Guess what slash was doing up until 5 minutes ago
[20:48:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> !karma ncommander
[20:48:28] <mattie_p> querying karma is case sensitive, but adding or subtracting karma strips caps
[20:48:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> nope, Gerbilius STILL hates me. Or has idiotic bugs.
[20:48:51] <mattie_p> or, maybe not
[20:48:56] <mattie_p> maybe because you're not voiced?
[20:48:58] <chromas> At least it's not portscanning you
[20:49:11] <chromas> !karma ncommander
[20:49:11] <Gerbilius> karma of ncommander is 17
[20:49:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> see? it HATES me. Or I'm really good at making bugs in software appear.
[20:49:41] <chromas> NCommander: is it checking for anything specific? Like Tor?
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[20:49:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> Given that I spent almost 10 years in a QA role, that wouldn't surprise me...
[20:50:17] <chromas> !karma ncommander
[20:50:17] <Gerbilius> karma of ncommander is 17
[20:50:22] <NCommander> chromas, if port 80, 8080, 3123 or 8000 is open, then it looks for a file called ok.txt
[20:50:33] <chromas> Just checking. That was copy/paste from AndyTheAbsurd to see if it had Unicode or something
[20:51:33] <Blackmoore> !karma bacon
[20:51:59] <Blackmoore> I think the bot just doesnt recognize everyone
[20:52:22] <Blackmoore> bacon++
[20:52:22] <Gerbilius> karma - bacon: 212
[20:52:35] <chromas> /. itself has an ok.txt. Does it mean something?
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[20:53:16] <Blackmoore> the quote function doesnt work for me either. - i assumed you have to be approved to use the commands
[20:53:21] <chromas> Oh, open proxy test
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[20:54:14] <chromas> I think somebody mentioned you have to be registered with nickserv for it to work
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[21:01:34] <Blackmoore> that makes sense.
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[21:31:27] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - Fucking Unbelievable: Slashcode Portscanning Disabled - http://sylnt.us - seething-with-anger
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[21:48:07] <Cyprus> rofl it's in the DBI code
[21:48:38] <Cyprus> well not the dbi, but in the db area
[21:51:44] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - F@@@@@@ Unbelievable: Slashcode Portscanning Disabled - http://sylnt.us - seething-with-anger
[22:02:50] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - F%1&£@! Unbelievable: Slashcode Portscanning Disabled - http://sylnt.us - seething-with-anger
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[22:19:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> ....
[22:19:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> oh, you made the "Call for Suggestions for Site Name Vote" be sticky.
[22:20:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> For a minute I thought that bug that was being discussed yesterday was back.
[22:20:58] <FoobarBazbot_> Actually, I believe it's being manually pushed up each time
[22:21:18] <Blackmoore> gah.. portscanning.. in th DB code. someone deserves a face slap and a /port/ scanning
[22:21:34] <FoobarBazbot_> because /code doesn't yet have a proper "sticky" functionality
[22:21:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> slap them in the face with a flounder
[22:21:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> or whatever fish is handy
[22:21:53] * AndyTheAbsurd gives Blackmoore a bass
[22:22:02] <Blackmoore> and then stuff it up thier ass.
[22:22:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> backwards.
[22:22:52] <Blackmoore> no, i want it to hurt more when they try to get it out
[22:22:58] <FoobarBazbot_> bassackwards?
[22:23:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> hm
[22:23:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> your devious plan to inflict maximum fish-related anal damage has my full support.
[22:25:12] <Blackmoore> all we need now it the guy who put that in the slashcode
[22:31:30] <MrBluze> and.. lynch him?
[22:32:40] <Blackmoore> nah. just a bitch slap with a large fish, and a painful reminder of what it feels to be violated
[22:33:02] <Blackmoore> I'll save the lynching for RSA.
[22:33:37] <MrBluze> ;)
[22:33:46] <Blackmoore> (you thought you had security? nah, the NSA says you cant have that)
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[22:44:53] <Blackmoore> @andy I think I can pick up a nice fresh catfish. those have some good sized pins in the fins.
[23:01:35] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - Dutch to Build 3D-Printed Building - http://sylnt.us - got-to-start-somewhere
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[23:58:34] <Landon> woot
[23:58:40] <Landon> on the first step to a paperless life
[23:58:47] <Landon> ordered a document scanner and shredder
[23:58:55] * Landon proceeds to scan passport and shred it
[23:59:40] <Cyprus> I'm not sure that's how that works...