#Soylent | Logs for 2014-04-08

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[00:34:25] <SN> ^^^ lost in space
[00:35:32] <Blackmoore> and what does this movie lack?
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[01:22:09] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Drone Warfare - It is Not a Bug Splat - http://sylnt.us - bad-guys-could-use-this-too
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[02:33:14] <SpallsHurgenson> hmph, supreme court refuses to rule on NSA metadata... god forbid they actually declare it unconstitutional or anything
[02:38:46] * SpallsHurgenson glares at the Internet, "You were the chosen one! It was said you would destroy inequality, not increase it. You were to bring balance to the world, not lead it to darkness!"
[02:38:48] <kobach> sup SpallsHurgenson
[02:39:18] <SirFinkus> lol, internet is already dead, we lost that fight
[02:39:39] <kobach> someone is going to get mad at 1985 https://www.youtube.com
[02:39:47] <kobach> wrong channel but same result
[02:41:39] <SpallsHurgenson> whoa... that video is VERY 80s!
[02:41:53] <SpallsHurgenson> '80s drinking game time!
[02:42:02] <SpallsHurgenson> sleeveless jeans jacket! take a drink!
[02:42:08] <SpallsHurgenson> mullets! take a drink!
[02:42:22] <SpallsHurgenson> power chords! take a drink!
[02:43:34] <SpallsHurgenson> skull t-shirt! Gulp!
[02:45:21] <SpallsHurgenson> this video reminds me of a "Kids In the Hall" skit
[03:06:15] <kobach> fuck yes
[03:10:31] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Online-Only Election in Canadian Town - http://sylnt.us - anonymous-secure-cheap-pick-any-two
[03:13:34] * SpallsHurgenson still has one XP machine left... I feel so vulnerable
[03:16:11] <kobach> what is "xp"
[03:17:41] <SpallsHurgenson> a millstone around Microsoft's neck
[03:21:29] <Popeidol> kobach: experience points
[03:22:15] <kobach> hahaha
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[05:00:58] <NightHawk> hey all
[05:02:13] juggs|afk is now known as juggs
[05:06:42] <SpallsHurgenson> no thanks, I don't eat hay
[05:08:01] <NightHawk> o.O
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[05:16:15] <juggs> hmmm - what's with the OP bots going all serious lately? Previously they were switching around between 'comical names'. Now in here we have "SN" and in ## "SECURITY". Seems a bit po-faced - possibly a little authoritarian, especially "SECURITY"... does making it all caps make it more secure... sounds like DHS/TSA visible "for your protection ma'am". There must be an ulterior motive behind it! :D
[05:16:38] * juggs points at kobach - explain your po-faced bots sir!
[05:16:42] <kobach> lol
[05:16:59] <kobach> think of security as the 350lb 6'10 bouncer at the door
[05:17:43] <juggs> he needs re-training, I breezed straight in :D
[05:17:54] <kobach> hes a nice guy until you cause trouble
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[05:18:56] <kobach> opie
[05:18:58] <kobach> .co
[05:18:59] <kobach> nice
[05:19:08] <opie> hi kobach
[05:19:16] <kobach> also juggs yes all caps makes it more secure
[05:19:25] <opie> you .co too?
[05:19:29] <kobach> no i just wish i was
[05:19:34] <kobach> lol
[05:19:37] <opie> its super nice
[05:19:38] <kobach> im .mo
[05:19:44] <kobach> so not far
[05:19:44] <opie> i smoke weed all the time
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[05:20:30] <kobach> i cant comment on such things in a publicly logged channel, youll have to join ## to talk about cannabis with me
[05:20:36] <kobach> or bacon
[05:20:42] <opie> i LOVE bacon!
[05:20:49] <kobach> oh boy
[05:20:58] <kobach> you are in for a treat
[05:21:06] <opie> and i don't know how too ##, so let's talk tech i guess
[05:21:11] <opie> o*
[05:21:13] <SpallsHurgenson> oh god, not the bacon-fetishists again...
[05:21:15] <kobach> /join ##
[05:21:20] <juggs> kobach - I feel much more secure. AND NOW I AM UNCRACKABLE, WITNESS THE MONUMENTAL RESILIENCE THAT IS ALL CAPS!!
[05:21:26] <kobach> good
[05:21:34] <opie> it says i must be invited
[05:21:46] <Popeidol> yeah, ## has been +i for a few days
[05:21:49] <juggs> ok I'll stop being a knob now :)
[05:21:56] <kobach> yeah you have to type /cs invite
[05:22:15] <juggs> has anyone seen mattiep around the last couple of days?
[05:22:49] <opie> not lately juggs
[05:23:59] <poutine> How would you guys feel if it became known that not only am I poutine, but I am also several different key figures in soylentnews, known under distinct names with distinct personalities and abilities?
[05:24:32] * SpallsHurgenson would feel an amazing amount of indifference
[05:24:47] <Popeidol> I would mostly feel hungry.
[05:25:00] <poutine> The big reveal is coming in 14 days 16 hours 4 minutes and 32 seconds
[05:25:17] <Popeidol> if you tell us ahead of time, it's no longer a big reveal
[05:25:22] <Popeidol> it's just some additional details
[05:25:23] <SpallsHurgenson> perhaps tinged with a touch of pity. but mostly indifference.
[05:25:50] <opie> i wouldn't care
[05:26:07] <kobach> yes
[05:26:42] <opie> is that a donnie darko reference?
[05:26:55] <opie> i see the invite... i dont know how to accept it
[05:27:31] <kobach> just type /join [channel]
[05:27:47] <opie> k. i'm in now
[05:27:51] <poutine> MrBluze|afk totally stole my nickname
[05:28:00] <kobach> well you shouldnt be trying to oper with it lol
[05:28:03] <poutine> oper abuse
[05:28:14] <poutine> I did not
[05:28:25] <kobach> 07.22:27:30 <@BadAss> SOPER:AF: poutine as MrBluze
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[05:28:37] <kobach> attempted fail
[05:28:53] <poutine> kobach, You're not that bright are you, I just did /ns ghost MrBluze|afk <password>
[05:29:16] <kobach> no, im 14 i just joined irc
[05:29:19] <poutine> I registered MrBluze|afk
[05:29:21] <poutine> it was my nickname
[05:29:23] <kobach> im not sure what im doing
[05:29:28] <poutine> MrBluze abused his oper status and took it
[05:29:36] <kobach> probably
[05:30:19] <juggs> lol The entertainment is strong in this one
[05:30:41] <kobach> ^
[05:31:08] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs: you are too easily amused :)
[05:32:33] <poutine> You should all voice your disapproval of MrBluze|afk using his nickname, rather than the official way /away <reason>, to signify his at-keyboard status
[05:32:40] <poutine> it's rather attention whorish
[05:32:54] <kobach> yeah MrBluze|afk its rather attention whorish
[05:33:03] * kobach voices his disapproval
[05:33:49] <FoobarBazbot_> .voice yourdisapproval
[05:37:02] <SpallsHurgenson> gah, this macbook is /slow/
[05:39:48] <NightHawk> add more ram?
[05:40:05] <poutine> do you have ferrite attached to the cables?
[05:40:21] <SpallsHurgenson> if I recall, it's maxed out (I think at a whopping 2GB)
[05:41:13] <NightHawk> wow, bleeding edge ;)
[05:41:17] <SpallsHurgenson> (as you might guess, it's an older machine :)
[05:41:20] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, I do find poutine amusing. ~shrug~
[05:41:26] <juggs> SSD?
[05:43:12] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, normally it isn't too bad... but it's been struggling with this OSX update for two hours now
[05:44:56] <NightHawk> a recent update?
[05:45:15] <SpallsHurgenson> I doubt it; I think it's OSX 10.5 :)
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[05:51:26] <juggs> Just reading up. Is it really bad IRC etiquette to change nick on going afk? ZNC bouncer has that as the default, as well as doing a /away - at least I think it does /away too, I should check that.
[05:52:15] <SpallsHurgenson> it never really bothered me, but what do I know; I'm a boor who opens bottles with his teeth :)
[05:57:43] <juggs> hmm, experiment time
[05:58:17] juggs is now known as juggs|afk
[05:59:14] <chromas> For extra class, open the bottle with another bottle
[06:02:32] <SpallsHurgenson> as a boor, I'm not sure I'm allowed any extra class
[06:04:25] <chromas> It's okay, as long as your belch while you do it
[06:05:26] <SpallsHurgenson> can I belch in the form of a AC/DC song?
[06:05:41] <kobach> yes
[06:06:02] <kobach> but only if your first song is a bon scott one
[06:06:20] <kobach> you can burp have a drink on me 2nd
[06:06:26] <kobach> after you burp dirty deeds
[06:08:30] <SoyCow7737> ok.. well on SN's own IRC webclient there is no way to tell if a person is away without doing a /whois on their nick (as opposed to greying out their nick in the nick list as most GUI IRC clients have done for years) - given it's not the 90's any more and people have got used to people's statuses being obvious thanks to "popular" IM stuff, I'm in the "it's OK to change your nick on AFK" for now.
[06:09:07] <juggler> populace - 1 poutine - 0
[06:09:37] <SpallsHurgenson> frankly, I was quite disappointed with this latest effort. he's done much better trolls.
[06:09:44] <kobach> same
[06:09:59] <SoyCow7737> whole lotta rosie - burp that without a refill and I'm buting the next round
[06:10:01] <juggler> I second that
[06:10:15] <SoyCow7737> s/buting/buying
[06:10:15] * SedBot tosses a / to SoCiw7737
[06:10:18] <SpallsHurgenson> then again, I could do without the trolls entirely
[06:10:27] <SoyCow7737> s/buting/buying/
[06:10:28] <SedBot> <SiCiw7737> whole lotta rosie - burp that without a refill and I'm buying the next round
[06:10:45] <SoyCow7737> every time that trailing slash bites me!
[06:11:08] <kobach> hey at least it lets you know now
[06:11:42] <SoyCow7737> :D gotta get outta this webclient thing
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[06:12:02] juggs|afk is now known as juggs
[06:13:29] * juggs feels normal
[06:14:16] <NightHawk> that must be nice?
[06:14:23] <kobach> lol
[06:15:01] <SpallsHurgenson> I hear it's quite itchy, actually
[06:15:05] <kobach> oper abuse
[06:15:07] <kobach> look out
[06:15:54] * juggs also realised he has a growing problem with uneven backlighting on his LCD thanks to the black background on SN web chat
[06:16:08] <juggs> harrumph
[06:16:12] <kobach> get a better monitor?
[06:16:19] <kobach> or worse?
[06:16:20] <kobach> dunno
[06:16:27] <kobach> my thinkpad doesnt have a problem
[06:16:57] <SpallsHurgenson> obviously a problem with the how poorly administered the SN IRC server is!
[06:17:04] <kobach> ^
[06:17:09] <kobach> oper abuse
[06:17:11] <NightHawk> love it
[06:17:13] <kobach> backlight abuse
[06:17:16] <kobach> all kinds of shit
[06:17:24] <kobach> place is like detroit
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[06:17:57] <kobach> hi mrcoolbp
[06:18:14] <mrcoolbp> yo
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[06:19:12] <juggs> kobach, better - for sure. Using a bargain bin ViewSonic that must be 5 or 6 years old - put up a solid black screen and I can see 4 vertical nearly white columns :D It's utter crud, but it's done OK as a cheapy.
[06:19:46] <kobach> lol
[06:20:57] <SpallsHurgenson> sounds like my "adminster" screen... the one I plug in when I can't remotely log on to a server :)
[06:21:10] <kobach> hahahah
[06:21:13] <kobach> THAT screen
[06:21:31] <kobach> lol
[06:21:53] <juggs> Maybe I am being all rose tinted specs, but I'm sure the CRTs we had on the Sun SPARC stations when I was at uni 20+ years ago were sharper and better resolution than this thing.
[06:22:11] <kobach> i guarantee they were
[06:22:27] <SpallsHurgenson> and you could put something on top of them and it wouldn't fall off!
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[06:23:19] * SpallsHurgenson likes putting things on top of other things :)
[06:25:24] <stderr> SpallsHurgenson: But only smaller things on top of larger things... Towers of Hanoi FTW!!!
[06:25:32] <kobach> hi stderr
[06:25:39] <stderr> Helloooooo.....
[06:25:47] <kobach> hows the danish bacon scene
[06:26:01] <stderr> Fine... Of course... :-)
[06:26:07] <kobach> good
[06:26:09] <kobach> good
[06:26:11] <juggs> twas a revelation when I first one of those stations - glass-like mouse pad with a checker-board pattern on it and an OMG mouse with no fluffy wheel just a light. Pointer accuracy was streets ahead of anything else. I have no doubt they weren't cheap at the time :D
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[06:26:40] <juggs> s/first/first used/
[06:26:41] <SedBot> <juggs> twas a revelation when I first used one of those stations - glass-like mouse pad with a checker-board pattern on it and an OMG mouse with no fluffy wheel just a light. Pointer accuracy was streets ahead of anything else. I have no doubt they weren't cheap at the time :D
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[06:31:55] * SpallsHurgenson remembers seeing his first optical mouse on a Sparc... didn't like it one bit. Mice that move using only light was obviously the deepest and darkest of black magicks.
[06:32:33] <stderr> Or lightest and brightest...
[06:35:48] <SpallsHurgenson> no, the former. I'm pretty sure Satan was involved :)
[06:37:46] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, mice without balls?
[06:38:08] <stderr> Female mice?
[06:38:25] <NightHawk> best ad for laser mice - never wash your balls again.
[06:42:40] <kobach> LOL
[06:42:42] <kobach> nice
[06:42:53] * SpallsHurgenson restarts the Mac...
[06:43:19] <kobach> oh god
[06:50:02] <juggs> As I alluded to... it's rose tinted specs talking (can specs talk? Discuss. Sounds like a Philosophy exam question). Coming from poorly maintained library terminal access to some creaky mainframe that was donated and kept running on a budget of beard cheese, to be presented with the choice of MS-DOS commodity PCs that ran as slow as a.... well a stationary thing or this fanciful "laser" mice equipped, X running, 3 labs full of SPARCs that no-one rea
[06:50:02] <juggs> lly bothered with. I commandeered all 3 labs to attempt an AI simulation - that didn't end in success, I think I surmised that one needs a great deal more processing power and nodes to even have a hope of some semblance of AI. I look at he state of AI now and I think I was right... but we're still not there. My papers must be a laugh to read now - "a neural network with only 72 nodes - what was this guy on???". And so the wheel turns :D
[06:50:30] <juggs> weeeee... wall of text...... sure sign I need to sign off.
[06:51:15] <kobach> nah
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[06:52:59] * arti stays very still
[06:53:06] * kobach does the same
[06:53:08] <kobach> dont move
[06:53:12] <kobach> it cant see you if you dont move
[06:53:31] * arti enables cloak mode: shuts eyes
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[06:55:14] * juggs WIELDS MACE IN CAPS FOR EXTRA STRENGTH - NOW WHO NEEDS SPLATTING?
[06:55:31] <arti> is that some kind of frisco slang
[06:55:45] <juggs> unlikely
[06:56:03] <arti> mace.toUpper
[06:56:52] <juggs> *****other languages apply
[06:57:40] <arti> farsi incoming
[06:58:32] * juggs SPLATS Subsentient WITH CAPITAL MACE
[06:59:56] * juggs wanders off home
[07:00:12] * Subsentient chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at juggs as he walks away
[07:00:31] juggs is now known as juggs|afk
[07:00:48] <Subsentient> Yeah that's right, you better run!
[07:01:06] * arti says the same thing before compiling
[07:01:15] * Subsentient busts up
[07:01:35] <arti> careful, that's a good way to get it in your eye(s)
[07:15:30] <SpallsHurgenson> great goobly moobly! look at the time!
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[07:24:02] <kobach> oh my
[07:24:04] <kobach> ^
[07:24:38] <kobach> dont look at me
[07:24:39] <kobach> whoops
[07:25:01] * arti peeks through fingers
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[08:11:54] <keplr> Anyone home?
[08:12:01] <kobach> not really
[08:12:11] <kobach> we're in the good channel talking about spiders and tornados
[08:12:23] <keplr> There's a good channel?
[08:12:29] <kobach> yeah, ##
[08:12:42] <kobach> we could always use some more telescopes
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[08:14:12] <keplr> I don't know what that means
[08:14:21] * arti o.o
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[08:14:56] <ar> woah
[08:14:56] <ar> 081349 | @ NerdRPG | arachnist, the level 48 Lone Wanderer, is #1! Next level in 2 days, 15:45:34.
[08:15:00] <ar> 081349 | @ NerdRPG | mattie_p, the level 48 Pointy-Haired Boss, is #2! Next level in 7 days, 11:59:32.
[08:15:03] <ar> 081349 | @ NerdRPG | stderr, the level 48 I/O-stream, is #3! Next level in 8 days, 02:12:40.
[08:15:06] <ar> how did that happen
[08:15:21] <kobach> ar = arachnist?
[08:15:24] <arti> you've been that for awhile dude
[08:15:29] <arti> easy 5 days
[08:15:31] <kobach> yeah youve been in first for like 3 weeks
[08:15:39] <kobach> 2 weeks
[08:15:51] * arti hears kobach saying this like arnie in that woman head
[08:16:00] <ar> yeah, but it used to be like a day or two ahead
[08:16:02] <ar> and not 5
[08:16:09] <kobach> ar: the rich get richer
[08:16:18] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[08:17:04] <prospectacle> Hi. can anyone explain to me how mod points are awarded? One day I'd like to have a mod point of my very own to spend.
[08:17:12] <arti> first you have to make a wish
[08:17:17] <arti> then learn to crow
[08:17:21] <arti> and fight!
[08:17:28] <arti> then you can fly :D
[08:17:32] <kobach> prospectacle: the more you visit the more likely you are to get modpoints
[08:17:40] <kobach> the more you post too
[08:17:49] <arti> the more you know /:D
[08:17:52] <kobach> other than that its pretty much random
[08:20:39] <prospectacle> interesting.
[08:22:24] <keplr> Should I report my dentist to the government for still using XP?
[08:22:28] <kobach> yes
[08:22:28] <prospectacle> Do you know how many you get, when you are chosen? Or is that random also?
[08:22:40] <kobach> you should get 10 every time
[08:22:53] <prospectacle> I see.
[08:23:22] <prospectacle> keplr, try the human right comission.
[08:24:46] <keplr> I don't think the US government cares about the UN.
[08:24:57] <arti> the UN.
[08:25:18] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
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[08:28:41] <kobach> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[08:28:47] <kobach> HOW WILL I EVER VIEW THE UNIVERSE!!!!!!1
[08:28:54] <arti> online?
[08:29:04] <kobach> but ill never get new pictures from kepler
[08:29:12] <arti> archive.org :D
[08:29:16] <kobach> i said new
[08:29:17] <arti> they'll be new to you
[08:29:22] <kobach> LOL
[08:29:26] <kobach> not forever!
[08:29:35] <arti> it's cool, we don't live forever either
[08:29:40] <kobach> lol
[08:29:47] <arti> just smoke some more and you'll have an endless supply of new content
[08:29:58] <arti> think of it as clearing the cache
[08:29:58] <kobach> this is true, assuming they have enough
[08:30:31] <kobach> lololol
[08:33:37] <SirFinkus> so someone smarter than me explain, is this new SSL bug the internet apocalypse?
[08:33:44] <SirFinkus> it seems pretty bad
[08:33:49] <kobach> what ssl bug
[08:33:57] <SirFinkus> http://heartbleed.com
[08:33:58] <SirFinkus> this one
[08:35:09] <kobach> oh my
[08:35:19] <SirFinkus> so it's as bad as I think
[08:38:00] <kobach> dunno
[08:38:05] <kobach> says fixes are being deployed
[08:38:24] <SirFinkus> well, it also says you can get private encryption keys
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[08:57:30] <NightHawk> Damn.... Quote: Is this a MITM bug like Apple's goto fail bug was? No this doesn't require a man in the middle attack (MITM). Attacker can directly contact the vulnerable service or attack any user connecting to a malicious service.
[08:57:39] <NightHawk> Am i reading that right?
[08:58:42] <SirFinkus> I think so
[08:59:07] <ar> NightHawk: tl;dr: upgrade openssl, revoke old key, issue new ones
[08:59:12] <prospectacle> NightHawk, it seems pretty bad, but is it in the wild and is a fix available yet? If "No" and "Yes", then only those who don't take security seriously will be in trouble, and that has always been the case.
[09:00:03] <prospectacle> I mean it will probably trip some innocent people up, which is bad, but banks and organisations with full time security staff should be ok
[09:01:46] * NightHawk nods, that just read odd to me. Like you can pull session data about other users of the affected server.
[09:01:56] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - Dyn Ending Free Hostname Program - http://sylnt.us - i-hate-network-address-translation
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[09:11:13] <ar> you can pull ssl private keys from the affected server
[09:11:43] <NightHawk> how long are they typically valid?
[09:12:34] <NightHawk> I'm assuming their generated on an as-needed basis and expire? Or am I way off.
[09:13:21] <arti> depends on the policy
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[09:15:09] <ar> certificates expire, but organizations often reuse CSRs and keys when requesting renewed certificates
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[09:22:07] <stderr> Am I missing something? What does Dyn DNS have to do with NAT?
[09:23:30] <NightHawk> it often points to a modem-router-NAT-device?
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[09:54:16] <kobach> sup #Soylent
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[11:00:45] <prospectacle> good evening
[11:00:51] <arti> good evening
[11:00:58] <prospectacle> How's it going?
[11:01:24] <arti> was working on some tunes, reading up on this openssl junk
[11:01:28] <prospectacle> If any editors/developers around: My submission title showed correctly in preview, but now in the list (and even if i I click to see the full submission), the title is truncated. Thanks for listening
[11:01:30] * arti wonders if android is affected
[11:02:09] <prospectacle> yeah it sounds fairly nasty. It's on the server end though, is it not?
[11:02:37] <prospectacle> Or are you using android as a server (I guess no reason you couldn't)
[11:03:10] <arti> yeah, it's on the server end
[11:05:23] <prospectacle> I hope my bank fixes it before I try to bank again. Would be a shame to be ripped off.
[11:06:08] <prospectacle> Maybe all the governments in the world need to have a global pwn2own contest or similar. Big prizes, every month. That would sort out the security pretty quickly.
[11:06:29] <arti> i think the NSA is winning
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[11:07:17] <prospectacle> lol yeah. Pity that
[11:07:58] <SirFinkus> I just assume that everything is pwned
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[12:04:00] <Subsentient> prospectacle: hi bud
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[12:29:37] <prospectacle> Hi Subsentient
[12:29:56] <prospectacle> Sorry I'm a bit slow at typing
[12:31:57] <Subsentient> np
[12:38:46] <prospectacle> I was reading the comments about your article, about learning multiple languages. One comment stood out.
[12:38:48] * MrBluze slaps poutine
[12:39:24] <Subsentient> prospectacle: yes?
[12:39:26] <prospectacle> Subsentient, it was about learning how the different languages relate to each other (e.g. how c compiles to assembly). I thought that would help you remember both langauges better.
[12:39:40] <Subsentient> prospectacle: yeh
[12:39:56] <prospectacle> Subsentient. Maybe a version of this approach could be applied to to other languages, although with c and asm it's a natural fit.
[12:40:26] <Subsentient> I just spent half an hour searching the standard for further details on the compatible-ness of type qualifiers that didn't exist because I forgot that type qualifiers are only meaningful to lvalues, INCLUDING when dealing with function types.
[12:40:41] <Subsentient> I am tired
[12:40:55] <MrBluze> poutine: do not try to impersonate me on here, you have been warned.
[12:40:57] <Subsentient> Not a good time to code, but honestly I don't remember the last time I wasn't at least somewhat tired
[12:41:06] <Subsentient> $burrito poutine
[12:41:19] * Subsentient chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at poutine
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[12:42:57] <prospectacle> Subsentient, it does sound tiring. I know everyone's thresholds are different, but i find the most tiring thing for me is trying to half do something (or do two things at once). If I code-hard and rest properly and alternate, I'm much less tired than sort of resting and sort of coding.
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[12:52:09] <SirFinkus> lmao openssl.org is still vulnerable to the bug
[12:52:16] <prospectacle> lol
[12:53:45] * NightHawk facepalm
[12:54:45] <MrBluze> hi NightHawk
[12:54:57] <NightHawk> yo :-)
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[13:13:01] <crutchy> hi soylent
[13:13:05] <MrBluze> hey crutchy
[13:13:07] <MrBluze> how u doin matey
[13:13:14] <crutchy> hey mrbluze
[13:13:19] <crutchy> i'm ok
[13:13:25] <crutchy> got a day off tomoz :-)
[13:13:30] <crutchy> how you doin?
[13:13:31] <MrBluze> u lucky bastard
[13:13:34] <MrBluze> oh im ok
[13:13:40] <MrBluze> worked hard again.. hard work tomorrow too
[13:13:51] <MrBluze> so i am not looking 2 days ahead .. in case it's worse still
[13:13:59] <crutchy> hmm
[13:14:10] <crutchy> better to tackle one day at a time
[13:14:24] <MrBluze> yeah definitely
[13:14:26] <crutchy> multiple days can gang up on you
[13:14:36] <MrBluze> yeah then u get gang ..something'ed
[13:14:41] <crutchy> lol
[13:15:09] <MrBluze> graped
[13:15:26] <MrBluze> like when you step on a grape in the kitchen with bare feet
[13:15:30] <crutchy> at my work we're flat out and pretty much in firefighting mode
[13:15:36] <crutchy> gets tiring
[13:15:42] <MrBluze> yeah thats annoying
[13:15:45] <crutchy> haha
[13:15:56] <MrBluze> same here .. been flat out saving bacons
[13:16:01] <crutchy> my natural reaction is "damn kids"
[13:16:17] <MrBluze> mine is .. oh no i been graped..
[13:16:21] <MrBluze> so violated, etc etc
[13:16:47] <crutchy> so you work in a hospital
[13:16:53] * MrBluze nods
[13:17:08] <crutchy> you're a public servant... so not a contractor
[13:17:10] <MrBluze> i do crazy stuff
[13:17:20] <MrBluze> yeah i am a lazy fat bastard ;)
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[13:17:35] <MrBluze> except i work my arse off, im not fat.. and uhh..
[13:17:38] <crutchy> lol "crazy stuff" doesn't narrow it down much in a hospital :-P
[13:17:51] <MrBluze> firstly, have u got an irc client yet?
[13:17:56] <crutchy> well i reckon there's lots that work their arses off in hospitals
[13:18:15] <crutchy> hospitals !== parliament
[13:18:16] * MrBluze pokes crutchy to see if he has an irc client
[13:18:48] <crutchy> are you an IT guy or a medical guy?
[13:18:55] <crutchy> or admin
[13:19:00] <MrBluze> answer my question! or u shall not pass lol
[13:19:04] <MrBluze> u got an irc client?
[13:19:06] <crutchy> nah i tried xchat... its gay
[13:19:11] <crutchy> :-P
[13:19:12] <MrBluze> konversation
[13:19:40] <MrBluze> konversation is simple but powerful and rock solid for me so far
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[13:19:49] <MrBluze> so what.. u are webchatting again?
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[13:20:02] <MrBluze> so what.. u are webchatting again?
[13:20:11] <crutchy> yeah i was
[13:20:18] <crutchy> now i'm xchatting
[13:20:18] <MrBluze> ok .. now
[13:20:21] <crutchy> :-P
[13:20:25] <MrBluze> check your msg window
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[14:48:56] <WizardFusion> Afternoon, if I wanted to have a look at redoing the CSS for the site, who would I need to talk to.?
[14:49:10] <WizardFusion> or is someone already doing this.?
[14:49:12] <MrBluze> hello WizardFusion
[14:49:16] <MrBluze> welcome
[14:49:24] <WizardFusion> Hi
[14:49:48] <MrBluze> if u want to help out, there are two people
[14:49:55] <MrBluze> myself (style / UI design)
[14:50:02] <MrBluze> and at the moment Pauej72
[14:50:21] <MrBluze> paulej72@soylentnews.org .. he has a deep knowledge so far of the css .. which is by no means a simple problem
[14:50:42] <WizardFusion> I was just looking at it, it seems very converloted.!
[14:50:49] <MrBluze> yep
[14:50:58] <MrBluze> we have a problem because we inherited slash which is old
[14:51:06] <MrBluze> u can get a VM of the dev server to run on your own system
[14:51:12] <MrBluze> and u can analyse it
[14:51:15] <WizardFusion> I might do that
[14:51:31] <MrBluze> a good start .. a lot of css is embedded into the database, and served up per need by slash
[14:51:34] <MrBluze> this is a problem
[14:51:55] <WizardFusion> I have done this once before, taken a site that had CSS in the HTML and as well as a separate file, it was a mess
[14:52:02] <MrBluze> yes
[14:52:10] <MrBluze> a reskin is being planned
[14:52:26] <MrBluze> but this is once the critical bugs and usability issues are addressed to start with
[14:52:44] <WizardFusion> I know its low on the list of things to do, which is why I offered
[14:53:00] <MrBluze> it's not low on the list, just late on it
[14:53:10] <MrBluze> its as important as anything can be
[14:53:14] <WizardFusion> let you guys get on with fixing the more important bugs
[14:53:21] <WizardFusion> :)
[14:53:54] <MrBluze> doesnt mean u cant start doing it
[14:54:15] <WizardFusion> I'll get the VM and have a go.
[14:54:17] <MrBluze> start off by analyzing the problem and then work out an approach
[14:54:19] <MrBluze> yes
[14:54:39] <WizardFusion> thanks for your info. have a good day
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[14:54:49] <MrBluze> cheers
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[15:28:10] <TK> Have there been no posted stories today>
[15:28:12] <TK> ?
[15:28:47] <NightHawk> It's still tuesday here, so, yes there were stories today.
[15:28:49] <Blackmoore> I see 4 with todays date
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[15:29:48] <SoyCow3645> over 12hours since the last story.
[15:29:50] <Blackmoore> Online-Only Election in Canadian Town/ Dyn Ending Free Hostname Program/ Virtual Reality Treating Social Phobias/ IBM System/360 50th Anniversary/ How Politics Makes Us Stupid
[15:30:00] <TK> My latest is "Online-Only Election in Canadian Town"
[15:30:09] <SoyCow3645> same here.
[15:30:11] <Blackmoore> ?!?!
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[15:30:14] <TK> But then I logged out and the new stories showed up
[15:30:27] <NightHawk> "How Politics Makes Us Stupid" is what I see
[15:30:36] <TK> logging back in, canada is on top
[15:30:55] <Blackmoore> hmm.. that's a refresh issue.
[15:31:04] <TK> Ctrl+F5 doesn't fix it
[15:31:14] <SoyCow3645> exactly the same thing happening with me, logged out I see new stories.
[15:31:32] <TK> I remember someone was talking about this a while back on the IRC
[15:31:40] <Blackmoore> @NCommander - does Soylent leave any cookies to track where a user is logged in?
[15:31:49] <TK> Same logging in/out problem/solution
[15:31:54] <Blackmoore> @TK yeah 2 days ago.
[15:32:22] <TK> Nah, this was more than a week ago
[15:32:34] <TK> He/she's got it in his/her sig
[15:33:08] <Blackmoore> in any case it is definately sounds like a real problem, and not a isolate incident.
[15:33:22] <crutchy> i think it's in the bug tracker
[15:34:06] <crutchy> could be this one: https://github.com
[15:34:34] <TK> Looks like it
[15:34:37] <crutchy> may have been janrinok that you were talking about having similar problem a few days ago
[15:34:52] <TK> I know it was a name I recognized
[15:34:58] <TK> So it very well could be
[15:35:56] <Blackmoore> did you try changing the time zone? (i havent a clue where that setting is)
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[15:38:48] <TK> It's under preferences>homepage
[15:38:58] <TK> and it didn't fix it
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[15:40:02] <Blackmoore> I've added more to the tracker for issues/78
[15:40:29] <TK> tried UTC and another, with Ctrl+F5
[15:40:30] <Blackmoore> but I don't have a clue how or why this would be happening.
[15:40:40] <Blackmoore> what browser are you using?
[15:40:59] <TK> FF 28.0
[15:41:04] <crutchy> it's a slashtery
[15:41:10] <crutchy> i mean mystery :-P
[15:41:20] <SoyCow3645> I'm using firefox as well, I'll check with chrome
[15:41:48] <Blackmoore> thanks. i want to add this detail to the log.
[15:42:13] <TK> The plot thickens
[15:42:19] <SoyCow3645> chrome on a different computer does it too.
[15:42:21] <TK> I just tried it with IE. Exact same problem
[15:43:09] <TK> Not that that's a typical use case
[15:43:46] <crutchy> Internet Exploder?
[15:44:12] <TK> I have an extra long fuse
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[15:44:23] <TK> So I can use it for short periods
[15:45:06] <Blackmoore> i'm on FF28. but i'm not getting the issue.
[15:45:33] <SoyCow3645> Tested Opera as well. same problem.
[15:45:59] <Blackmoore> considering the same results no matter what the browser it has to be tied to your account.
[15:46:06] <SoyCow3645> seems like it.
[15:47:29] <SoyCow3645> Once clicked through to one of the newer stories logging in doesn't break anything. it's just the main page not updating.
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[15:48:37] <Blackmoore> Mornin mattie!
[15:49:19] <Blackmoore> we have a mystrey on our hands
[15:49:25] <TK> Yeah, the pages are fine
[15:49:29] <TK> logged in or not
[15:49:46] <SoyCow3645> also clicking on a topic shows the new stories
[15:49:53] <Blackmoore> both TK and Soycow3645 are not getting updates to the main page
[15:50:12] <TK> I could either make a new account on this 'puter, or I could try loggin in on my phone
[15:50:14] <TK> or both
[15:50:14] <Blackmoore> no matter what browser. but only when logged in
[15:50:15] <TK> brb
[15:50:39] <mattie_p> morning, Blackmoore
[15:50:59] <Blackmoore> we think it is tied to https://github.com
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[15:52:22] <Blackmoore> @dx3bydt3_work can you try this link http://soylentnews.org
[15:52:44] <Blackmoore> should take you to the newest article.
[15:52:56] <dx3bydt3_work> the link works fine logged in.
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[15:54:27] <TK> Same problem on firefox for android
[15:54:34] <Blackmoore> issue log doesnt give much hope. we need to find a way to reproduce it so it can get fixed.
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[15:54:57] <Blackmoore> but considering tk was just able to dup the bug on a different device.
[15:55:04] <Blackmoore> hmm.
[15:55:15] <TK> Soycow3645: how much karma does your account haev?
[15:55:22] <TK> I'm sitting at 46
[15:55:37] <TK> Is there some wonky karma modifier that changes what we see?
[15:56:04] <dx3bydt3_work> I'm capped at 50 it seems
[15:56:08] <TK> quick everyone, downmod me to hell!
[15:56:12] <TK> for science!
[15:56:16] <crutchy> i'm logged in and can see the politics story
[15:56:21] <crutchy> i only have 13 karma
[15:57:04] <dx3bydt3_work> I tried explicitly looking for stories from this date too: http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:08] <dx3bydt3_work> that doesn't work either.
[15:57:35] <TK> I just now realized you changed your name :-p
[15:57:37] <Blackmoore> yeah. it has to be something under the hood, and attached to the account - and something to do with date.
[15:59:31] <Blackmoore> @paulej72 - you have any suggestions?
[15:59:49] <crutchy> drink more coffee and eat more bacon
[16:00:21] <Blackmoore> :)
[16:00:38] <Blackmoore> I'm all over that. let me go get some bacon.
[16:00:45] <crutchy> and let the slashtastic madness roll on :-)
[16:01:47] <dx3bydt3_work> I just killed my firefox at home in case multiple logins could explain it... but that isn't it either, same symptoms persist.
[16:02:07] <paulej72> Blackmoore: this is on my todo list, it may be that some of the prefs are getting set improperly in the db, as the code that sets the home page settings does no sanity checking
[16:02:46] <paulej72> resetting th homepage settings and then restting the TZ is the only way to fix this.
[16:03:14] <crutchy> just don't implement insanity checking, cos i would show positive every time
[16:03:43] <crutchy> i haven't noticed the problem... i think my tz is at +10
[16:03:53] <crutchy> maybe try a big + tz
[16:04:26] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: NCommander added a checkbox WRT to voting on the "homepage" section last night
[16:04:38] <paulej72> no on production
[16:04:40] <mrcoolbp> oh
[16:04:42] <paulej72> not*
[16:04:42] <TK> Resetting defaults in my preferences>homepage account options fixed it
[16:05:11] <dx3bydt3_work> I set my homepage prefs to default all fixed here too.
[16:05:20] <TK> As per Paulej72's comments here: https://github.com
[16:05:33] <Blackmoore> @paule72 that makes some sense. i figurged something in the db was going off.
[16:05:53] <TK> Interesting little bug
[16:05:54] <dx3bydt3_work> I noticed that dopefish was unchecked in the Authors section before I reset.
[16:06:13] <dx3bydt3_work> all the stories from today were done by dopefish.
[16:06:37] <TK> Interesting
[16:06:41] <TK> I didn't look
[16:06:46] <TK> But I really wish I had
[16:07:20] <paulej72> dx3bydt3_work: thanks for the info. Need ot look at that as a possible area where the bug is.
[16:07:21] <TK> I guess I'll go back to blissful ignorance pretty soon
[16:07:54] <paulej72> how many people think we need that feature, diabling editors?
[16:08:09] <paulej72> disabling*
[16:09:22] <crutchy> come join me TK... ignorance is a lovely place to spend time. trust me; i live there :-P
[16:10:19] <TK> paulej72: That's a good point. Until we get some new Timothy, it's not necessary
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[16:10:33] <dx3bydt3_work> I didn't notice the option to disable an editor before. For this site, I don't see the need for that feature.
[16:10:53] <TK> On the other hand, if you're not interested in site updates, you could disable Ncommander
[16:11:18] <TK> Probably not a widely sought out feature
[16:12:22] <dx3bydt3_work> I'd prefer to see a story and choose not to click it rather than have it invisible.
[16:13:00] <dx3bydt3_work> it's not like ignoring a story is a hardship.
[16:13:11] <NCommander> TK, oh, I'm feeling loved
[16:18:56] <TK> I'm just talking theoreticals
[16:21:29] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - So, How's that Recovery? - http://sylnt.us - what-recovery?
[16:22:06] <NCommander> Blackmoore, are you having this bug right now? (the DST one?)
[16:24:25] <Blackmoore> no, TK and dx3bydt3_work
[16:24:59] <Blackmoore> I just happend to be in here and tried to trouble shoot / update the issue
[16:26:08] <Blackmoore> since i already have a git account
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[16:30:56] <paulej72> I have found the issue I think. it has to do with new authors being added and getting set in the story_never_author var and not getting shown on the front page
[16:31:40] <chimp> ./heartbleeder soylentnews.org
[16:31:41] <chimp> VULNERABLE - soylentnews.org:443 has the heartbeat extension enabled and is vulnerable to CVE-2014-0160
[16:32:47] <paulej72> 263 users had at least one value in the story_never_author and they are all our current high volume authors.
[16:33:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> paulej72: might want to do a count of each author to find out who's irritating people.
[16:34:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> although actually, with 4000+ users, only have 263 with authors blocked isn't that bad.
[16:35:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> Still might be interesting to see the results.
[16:35:27] <paulej72> AndyTheAbsurd: I think it has nothing to do with people setting the var directly but a poor saving sytem on the back end
[16:36:09] <crutchy> i doubt users would intentionally block an author and then complain about not seeing their stories come up
[16:36:31] <paulej72> AndyTheAbsurd: think the bug is triggered after a new author is added and someone updates their homepage settings
[16:36:42] <Cyprus> i actually suggest purging that var
[16:36:50] <Cyprus> what paule said
[16:37:19] <Cyprus> plus there was a long time when it wasnt updated at the beginning of the site
[16:37:28] <paulej72> Cyprus: I am going to suggest that to NCommander. We need to make sure we do not hose the db when doing this
[16:37:37] <Cyprus> i had to edit html to fix it for myself
[16:37:56] <NCommander> paulej72, thats an irriating bug
[16:39:03] * crutchy hands NCommander some bug spray
[16:39:19] <paulej72> NCommander: is seems to track with what users see thoug that they do not see stories then they do, Eds currently queue up server articles in a row so we get chains of artiles that cant be seen
[16:39:32] <Cyprus> i'm the one that submitted a similar bug under the login "skylis" on git
[16:39:56] <paulej72> NCommander I need to check the other vars in the same table to see if anything else is wonky.
[16:40:31] <crutchy> maybe need to keep a list of anyone reported as having witnessed the bug
[16:40:33] <paulej72> NCommander: I think this stems from no SAN check on saveHome
[16:40:46] <crutchy> look for any common patterns in the db
[16:40:53] <NCommander> paulej72, "joy"
[16:41:53] <paulej72> give thanks to dx3bydt3_work as he made to observation.
[16:42:13] * NCommander gives dx3bydt3_work a gold star
[16:42:28] <crutchy> maybe need a wokyDbCheck() function that accepts an array of users as a param and does a database query returning fieldnames with common values for all users
[16:42:57] <crutchy> in the array
[16:43:16] <crutchy> *wonkyDbCheck
[16:43:44] <crutchy> meh corekt speelin iz ovaratod
[16:43:51] <paulej72> NCommander: dx3bydt3_work said he could not see new articles and dopefish was not checked for him. Dev DB shows that for his uid that dopefish was in his do not show list.
[16:44:08] <NCommander> chimp, the upgrade was already pushed for Ubuntu, I'm going to install it in a bit
[16:44:15] <NCommander> chimp, then look at installing new SSL keys
[16:44:20] <paulej72> Need to get to real work now. bbl
[16:45:16] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: g'mornin'
[16:45:25] <Cyprus> my impression when i looked at it was it was assuming the list from homepage was all inclusive
[16:46:15] <NCommander> chimp, can you retest?
[16:47:08] <crutchy> https://github.com
[16:52:29] * NCommander keeps installing update
[16:58:37] <chimp> Will do
[16:59:46] <chimp> SECURE - soylentnews.org:443 has the heartbeat extension enabled, but timed out after a malformed heartbeat (this likely means that it is not vulnerable)
[17:00:27] <chimp> Phew! I thought someone was going to steal my precious soylentnews account for a second
[17:00:51] <NCommander> chimp, awesome, thanks. We're going to install a new SSL certificate as soon as we can generate one
[17:01:13] <Blackmoore> @NC looks like comments on articles are up. makes me happy
[17:01:48] <NCommander> Blackmoore, appears the community is starting to roar
[17:02:17] <chimp> NCommander: Pain in the arse this. I only manage a few sites, I can but imagine how bad a day some server admins must be having
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[17:02:56] <crutchy> feels for the admins of http://web-sniffer.net
[17:03:01] <NCommander> Yeah
[17:05:49] <crutchy> wonder why nobody's got a writeup... 1 result for https://www.google.com.au
[17:08:07] <Blackmoore> I havent seen news about any DOS attacks in months.
[17:08:18] <Blackmoore> I suspect it's no longer sexy
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[17:09:07] <crutchy> i suspect a lot of the scriptkiddy tools have been rendered useless
[17:09:29] <Blackmoore> true.
[17:09:51] <Blackmoore> nothing on register either
[17:10:51] <Blackmoore> i do like thier take on the IBM story (why wont you die?)
[17:11:12] * NCommander pushes a minor tweak to slashcode
[17:11:51] <crutchy> might be better tools out there but websniffer is awesome for doing a quick check to see if a server running inside local network is up
[17:12:06] <crutchy> especially cos few routers seem to include a loopback if nowadays
[17:12:56] <crutchy> up as in accessible from outside
[17:13:10] <crutchy> inc dns
[17:13:28] <Cyprus> there have been large ddos recently
[17:13:47] <Cyprus> mostly ntp based
[17:14:13] <crutchy> i remember a writeup on that a while ago
[17:14:26] <Cyprus> its so easy that everything else has cooled
[17:15:58] <crutchy> http://www.akamai.com
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[17:53:59] <TK> ddos attacks will increase in the summer
[17:54:13] <Blackmoore> need to restart FF.
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[17:54:18] <TK> when the scriptkiddies aren't in school
[18:01:11] <kobach> TK: lol
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[18:09:36] <TK> Remember lulzsec? All their shenanigans happened exclusively during the summer (of 2011?)
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[18:18:23] <chimp> TK: Back in my day when we were bored kids we got drunk. What has the world come to with kids these days
[18:23:53] <TK> Stricter ID laws at liquor stores = more delinquent kids
[18:24:12] <kobach> lol
[18:24:14] <TK> That's just science
[18:24:17] <kobach> ^
[18:27:10] <TK> I don't recall any popular script kiddies from last summer
[18:27:23] <TK> At least not prominent enough that I remember
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[19:29:15] <Blackmoore> @janrinok thanks for the repair job on the economic submission.
[19:29:40] <janrinok> np - I like the story and it's getting comments!
[19:30:24] * mrcoolbp helped a little too = )
[19:30:32] <janrinok> helped a lot!
[19:31:12] <kobach> i helped not at all
[19:31:14] <kobach> bacon++
[19:31:14] <Gerbilius> karma - bacon: 211
[19:31:16] <kobach> jowl++
[19:31:16] <Gerbilius> karma - jowl: 5
[19:35:19] <Blackmoore> yeah - i'm happy to see that too. got to keep the community talking.
[19:35:26] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[19:35:26] <Gerbilius> karma - coffee: 13
[19:44:17] <chimp> Whats this bot karma?
[19:44:17] <chimp> coffee--
[19:44:17] <chimp> Well that didn't do anything
[19:44:17] <Gerbilius> karma - coffee: 12
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[19:49:36] <Blackmoore> hey - don't knock the coffee :P
[19:49:37] <chimp> Oh... now I feel bad
[19:49:40] <chimp> coffee++
[19:49:40] <Gerbilius> karma - coffee: 13
[19:50:00] <Blackmoore> yeah, it's only a baby
[19:50:11] <chimp> coffee=bacon++
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[20:01:34] <Cyprus> we just now got the heartbleed story? =/
[20:03:33] <TK> Continuing in the tradition of the other site
[20:03:41] <TK> You expected any different?
[20:05:36] <TK> I'm surprised we don't have a story about other site's April Fools hijinks.
[20:16:47] <Blackmoore> *rolls eyes*
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[21:42:35] <ancientt> where can I get a globe without any country markings? I'm curious if I could point to the Ukraine
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[21:46:18] <Blackmoore> good question.
[21:47:15] <Blackmoore> http://www.zonu.com
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[21:50:53] <ancientt> thanks Blackmoore, it had more outline than I had hoped for, but was non-descriptive enough that I feel like I did really well on a test
[21:53:58] <Blackmoore> well - they did have some other maps
[21:54:16] <ancientt> good point, I might pick a different one when quizzing other people
[21:54:26] <Blackmoore> but it was fairly blank. You could even play the name the contenent
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[22:32:08] <Gerbilius> [SoylentNews] - Management Lessons From 'Game Of Thrones' - http://sylnt.us - life-is-just-like-tv
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[22:55:16] <Blackmoore> so we should go around murdering corporate management until we are the CEO?
[22:55:35] <Blackmoore> i'm not sure i have a dragon available
[22:57:04] <nick> im thinking business dragons are lawyers
[23:03:35] <combatserver> http://www.zerohedge.com
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[23:05:03] <Blackmoore> could be a guy with a flamethrower
[23:07:33] <combatserver> http://online.wsj.com
[23:09:38] <combatserver> http://ibnlive.in.com
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