#Soylent | Logs for 2014-04-07

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[00:09:47] <moo_kuh> ncmobile, irc has been dead for the past hour or so
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[00:26:25] <kobach> LOL!!!!!!!
[00:26:33] <kobach> YOU CAN GET A THINKPAD WITH SLI NOW!
[00:26:44] <kobach> FUCKING 2ND GRAPHICS CARD GOES IN THE ULTRABAY LOL
[00:26:48] <kobach> MAGIC
[00:29:54] * FoobarBazbot shoves kobach's capslock key in his ultrabay
[00:30:08] <xlefay> LOL
[00:30:26] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - ACLU Database of Snowden Docs Now Online - http://sylnt.us - how-long-will-this-last?
[00:30:57] <kobach> nvm thats some shitbox ideapad or w/e
[00:31:18] <kobach> if it doesnt have a nub for a mouse, its a worthless laptop
[00:31:27] <kobach> and this one has no nub
[00:31:28] <kobach> lol
[00:31:42] <kobach> site is so fucking confusing now
[00:32:23] <kobach> shitbox
[00:34:44] <kobach> nvm, all the reviews say the chinese have completely ruined thinkpads
[00:34:54] <kobach> looks like i should just upgrade my hdd after all
[00:35:40] <kobach> maybe someone else will come out with a laptop thats worth a shit with a nub mouse
[00:35:46] <kobach> who knows
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[00:50:02] <xlefay> !quote 399
[00:50:02] <SlimShady> Can't find quote 399
[00:50:11] <xlefay> !quote kerberos
[00:50:11] <SlimShady> No quotes found with the text 'kerberos'
[00:50:15] <xlefay> !quote Kerberos
[00:50:16] <SlimShady> Quote 97 - <michealpwalls> Example: Say NCommander comes to xlefay's home with a large, heavy Rubber Hose. NCommander proceeds to beat xlefay with the large, Rubber Hose until xlefay logs into his/her account for NCommander to abuse. Stop that, Kerberos!
[00:50:20] <xlefay> ugh you fucking stupid bot
[00:50:26] <xlefay> Now, that's my favorite quote!
[00:51:35] <FoobarBazbot_> The capitalization of Rubber Hose really makes it, lol
[00:51:47] <xlefay> it does haha
[01:19:27] <poutine--> <kobach> FUCKING 2ND GRAPHICS CARD GOES IN THE ULTRABAY LOL
[01:19:37] <poutine--> so... what game really needs a SLI setup these days?
[01:19:59] <poutine--> Everything is being programmed to pander to console owners, I really doubt anyone needs SLI in 2014
[01:20:09] <poutine--> unless you're mining dogecoins, then you should just be kicked in the face
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[01:36:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Good afternoon, fellas...
[01:36:44] <Ethanol-fueled> So what should I have for dinner?
[01:37:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Not a whale-shit sandwhich.
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[01:37:32] <chromas> Why not?
[01:38:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Because I knew some asshole would suggest that.
[01:40:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Okay, more ontopic -- what do you all think of a system that allows you to ignore people you foe?
[01:41:02] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, you can already do that
[01:41:14] <Ethanol-fueled> nCommander, how?
[01:41:46] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, you can assign score modifiers for various things, its in preferences
[01:42:03] <FoobarBazbot> Ethanol-fueled: a whale-shit casserole
[01:42:13] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHHhahah
[01:42:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Bazbot must be German.
[01:42:30] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:42] <NCommander> SOrry, I'm on amtrak, so my connection is especially shit
[01:43:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Ncommander: I knew that. What I was talking about is ignoring a person entirely, as in, instead of their comment you can see a little link that says something like "you ignored this user, click to unignore"
[01:43:43] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, to be implemented? :-)
[01:44:01] * NCommander is doing a write up on reworkin moderation based on the discussions
[01:44:13] <Ethanol-fueled> ignore on a per-comment basis or perhaps any discussions stemming from a person you don't like? Yeah, Ncommander, I know it's just an idea and more shit you gotta do, ...
[01:44:38] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, my todo list reachs the moon :-/
[01:45:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahah, hey, I'm not gonna use an ignore system, I browse at a -1 threshold, nested, oldest-first. I love trolls.
[01:45:38] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, set your trolls for +6 :-)
[01:45:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Just thinking, when this gets a little bigger, you may need a more robust system to placate the easily-offended whiners and bitchers.
[01:46:31] <SpallsHurgenson> oh good, then they'll have a reason to stick around :)
[01:46:59] <NCommander> I'm rewriting the entire karma/mod system
[01:47:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Ncommander: Then I'll shut my ass up and await your findings and recommendations.
[01:47:46] * NCommander is going to make it very hard for people who use the moderation system as a -1, Wrong button finding they're unlikely to have many mod points
[01:48:07] <NCommander> Groupthink is the enemy of rational discussions
[01:48:17] <NCommander> I intend to stomp on it. If necessary with spiked boots
[01:48:22] <Ethanol-fueled> SpallsHurgenson: This isn't /b/, or the Hell's Angels forum. This forum is about tech. And with the tech sector comes plenty of limp-wristed whiners.
[01:48:37] <Ethanol-fueled> NCommander, those are some damn-good ideas.
[01:49:00] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, well, it occurs to me, /. is the *only* attempt I've seen to really try and implement a signal/noise filter
[01:49:07] <NCommander> And well ... /.'s system sucks
[01:49:19] <NCommander> (it took me a long time to really understand why it sucks, but it does)
[01:49:24] * arti o.o
[01:49:27] <Ethanol-fueled> NCommander: agreed.
[01:49:28] <arti> dem trips
[01:49:45] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, you really don't see the problem when you're close. I know Taco defended Moderation saying it was perfect
[01:49:56] <NCommander> And my first attempt at a rework didn't work
[01:50:21] <NCommander> (we're actualyl using a failsafe mode I put in the mod rework to give users 10 points each to prevent too few points in circulation)
[01:50:27] <arti> just grind some more projects and you'll level up?
[01:50:32] <NCommander> That being said, I'm curious what the reaction to supermoderation will be
[01:51:03] <Ethanol-fueled> NCommander: could you be hassled to explain "supermoderation?"
[01:51:10] <arti> it's like daily doubles
[01:52:08] <FoobarBazbot> it's like regular moderation, but indestructible, flying, shoots heat beams out of its eyes, and grew up on a farm.
[01:52:10] * arti also browses at -1
[01:52:22] <NCommander> FoobarBazbot, actually, thats suprisingly close
[01:53:05] <FoobarBazbot> oh, is it allergic to green rocks?
[01:53:11] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, supermoderation is something the best of the best mods (as determined by the M2 scores + handpicked from the staff). A supermoderator gets a very small set of a new type of point, which can be used to supermoderate.
[01:53:32] <NCommander> A supermoderation causes a comment to go to +4/+5 (decidable by the mod), and then locks it from future moderations.
[01:53:57] <dx3bydt3> the metamoderation at the other site was not so great. I'm glad the supermoderation is something different.
[01:54:09] <NCommander> dx3bydt3, well, metamod is coming back in addition to supermoderation
[01:54:14] <NCommander> But I'm reworking the entire metamod system
[01:54:21] <NCommander> Because the implementation was idiotic
[01:54:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh wow. That's a good idea, but you need to place a lot of trust in people who are granted those privileges.
[01:54:30] <dx3bydt3> could it focus on the downmods more than upmods?
[01:54:37] <NCommander> dx3bydt3, that's the plan
[01:54:50] <NCommander> Mod points will no longer expire
[01:54:54] <Ethanol-fueled> NCommander: for a while at least, on the other site, didn't they actually allow for their selection of your own posts to metamod for awhile?
[01:55:04] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, yup :-/
[01:55:15] <NCommander> Under the new system, points no longer expire but are capped
[01:55:26] <NCommander> The cap starts at 10, and goes up or down depending on your karma + your metamod scores
[01:55:36] <NCommander> That means someone who moderates badly
[01:55:37] <arti> we need a point market place
[01:55:47] <arti> microtransactions >.>
[01:55:49] <NCommander> Will loose moderation privelleges
[01:56:29] <NCommander> (the scores will age out to zero given enough time, so no ban is permament but ...)
[01:56:40] <Ethanol-fueled> NCommander: I like that idea, because as it is now with points there's too much pressure to shotgun-mod the most recently posted articles...and not many of us have a whole 8 hours to dedicate to the process of modding.
[01:56:55] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, side effect of my original rewrite was flawed
[01:57:02] <NCommander> I wrote it with the assumption most posts go down, not up
[01:57:18] <NCommander> Moderation will break if the algo expiration time is too long
[01:57:28] <NCommander> I can keep it at eight which seems to work well enough, but the moderation rework is top priority
[01:57:43] <NCommander> Downmodding will now cost additional points
[01:57:55] <NCommander> Its comment_score*2 (minium of 2)
[01:58:35] <NCommander> So high karma posters starting at +2 require four points to knock down
[01:59:00] <dx3bydt3> I'd suggest also, something you've almost certianly thought of, if a comment has been modded both up and down it should be flagged for meta/super moderation
[01:59:19] <NCommander> dx3bydt3, new Suggest/Report posts
[01:59:26] <NCommander> Suggest is a comment should get mods
[01:59:32] <NCommander> Report makes a comment elligable for supermoderation
[01:59:38] <Ethanol-fueled> dx3bydt3: That's an awesome idea, because controversial posts like those frequently drive big discussions.
[01:59:52] <NCommander> Its not that hard to implement
[01:59:56] <NCommander> We have the full moderation log
[02:00:09] <NCommander> Perhaps an auto-tag for Controversial, and then cause it to autoreport itself
[02:00:29] <NCommander> Score: 5, Insightful; Supermoderated; Controversial
[02:01:03] <NCommander> We're also going to rework the comments system slightly
[02:01:06] <NCommander> With a new Hybrid view
[02:01:15] <NCommander> The biggest thing right now is the threaded interface we use by default is kinda clunkily; even "Parent" doesn't work in the way you'd expect it. As a short-term solution, I'm going to introduce a "Hybrid" option, which when a post is short on comments, displays everything as "Nested" does now. This will allow people to easily see comments vs. having to go through the current clickfest required to see replies and reply. At a certa
[02:01:15] <NCommander> in cut-off, the view will change to threaded, which will keep the page manageable. The cutoff will be user modifiable, as well as the option to always use threaded or nested by default if you happen to hate the new behavior.
[02:01:15] <NCommander> Furthermore, we're going to add a new option under score, which is called "Average", which is exactly what it sounds like on the tin. As moderators make their way through a discussion, they will elevate the average scores in a discussion which will cause cruft to fall below the average, and drop out of view, which will help to keep the index in nested mode as long as possible until sheer quantity forced it otherwise.
[02:01:19] <NCommander> From my writeup
[02:01:34] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Sony File DMCA On Creative Commons Film - http://sylnt.us - how-wrong-can-you-be?
[02:01:45] <xlefay> File? Files?\
[02:02:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Whatever you do, NCommander, don't fuck with my -1 threshold/nested/oldest first
[02:03:22] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, always an option :-)
[02:03:35] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, we might change people from threaded to hybrid by default, but the original option will remain
[02:04:44] * NCommander is also looking at score inhertiance
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[02:08:27] * Ethanol-fueled twists nipples in excitement
[02:09:06] * SpallsHurgenson rediscovers an old DOS demo-scene demo he's been looking for at least ten years :)
[02:09:27] <Ethanol-fueled> demoscene is rad.
[02:10:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Good ideas, NCommander.
[02:11:25] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, actually, you kinda inspired it; your comment on downmodding someone if they were wrong :-P
[02:11:50] <NCommander> (the journal got linked into the Why you lurk post)
[02:12:21] <NCommander> So sick of spotty internet
[02:13:07] <arti> 644bit demo?
[02:13:13] <arti> -4
[02:13:21] <arti> 64k demo :|
[02:13:39] <SpallsHurgenson> no, 1.16mb :)
[02:14:05] <SpallsHurgenson> Twilight Zone's "A Tribute to Monty Python", from the early '90s
[02:14:49] <NCommander> SpallsHurgenson, please tell me it plays the Liberty Bell march over PC speaker
[02:14:52] <NCommander> I will be in absolute love
[02:15:30] <SpallsHurgenson> no, Gravis Ultrasound :)
[02:16:21] <NCommander> And now, for something completely different
[02:19:27] <SpallsHurgenson> huh... that wasn't quite as good as I remember it :-/
[02:20:42] <SpallsHurgenson> then again, after 21 years, I don't see how it could be :)
[02:21:53] * NCommander is tired :-/
[02:21:57] <NCommander> Almost home
[02:21:59] <NCommander> Last 100 miles
[02:22:25] <Ethanol-fueled> nothing worse than travelling home late on a Sunday.
[02:22:48] * SpallsHurgenson can think of several things worse than that :)
[02:23:11] <Ethanol-fueled> like what, sticking your dick in a beehive?
[02:24:02] <SpallsHurgenson> well, nothing quite so crude but yes, something along those lines
[02:26:06] <xlefay> !grab Ethanol-fueled
[02:26:06] <SlimShady> Added quote 104
[02:27:32] <Ethanol-fueled> "grab" looked totally bad in the context of what I said last.
[02:27:44] <arti> :>
[02:28:34] <Ethanol-fueled> arti: that's the "pervert smile"
[02:28:41] <arti> you're a yank
[02:29:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Most of us are somewhere in the FIve Eyes.
[02:29:28] <xlefay> Ethanol-fueled, I'm well aware but I couldn't resist getting that quote!
[02:30:40] <Ethanol-fueled> xlefay: no worries. Maybe I'll make it my new catchphrase, if the need to put it in a comment ever comes up.
[02:32:26] <xlefay> Take it under advisement, I'll watch for it next time I'm reading one of your comments.
[02:33:22] * NCommander seriously wants to get some sleep
[02:33:48] <SpallsHurgenson> sleeping while driving can be seriously hazardous to your health
[02:34:05] <SpallsHurgenson> Being on IRC while driving is perfectly safe, however :)
[02:34:22] <xlefay> He's in a train :P
[02:34:25] <arti> http://bash.org
[02:34:38] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, then just reverse it :)
[02:36:53] <Ethanol-fueled> I submitted an article about sexism in the tech sector.
[02:37:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Hopefully it will cause a nice shitstorm if it gets published.
[02:37:18] <arti> hahaha
[02:37:31] <arti> need to do some buzzword bingo
[02:37:38] <xlefay> "Technology's Man Problem"?
[02:37:51] <Ethanol-fueled> xlefay: that's the one.
[02:38:00] <arti> Technology Man's Problem"
[02:38:55] <Ethanol-fueled> this is a dumb question, but is there a way to see which articles are being considered for submission, like slashdot's firehose?
[02:38:57] <xlefay> Good submission
[02:40:30] <SpallsHurgenson> http://soylentnews.org
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[02:48:50] * Ethanol-fueled steps out to forage for food and beer, be back in a few
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[02:53:19] <SpallsHurgenson> tilt-shift videos are awesome.
[02:56:32] <keplr> That reminds me I haven't eaten today
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[03:20:33] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - News on Guitar Center - http://sylnt.us - is-capitalism-inherently-evil?
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[04:10:50] <poutine--> MrBluze, you are aware that nobody really gives a shit about when you're at the keyboard or not, in fact, when the IRC protocol was drafted, they thought about chronic over-sharers like you, and they proposed AWAY functionality so people interested in your at-keyboard status can find that out without vomiting all over the channel with nick changes like you're currently doing
[04:11:16] <kobach> /away
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[04:11:45] <kobach> rofl
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[04:11:56] <poutine> fine, I will solve the problem if nobody else will
[04:12:58] <keplr> Nerd rage
[04:13:05] <kobach> look out
[04:13:26] <keplr> Though you make a cogent point.
[04:13:40] <xlefay> he registered the nick..
[04:13:49] <poutine> xlefay, :)
[04:13:54] <kobach> snooze you looze
[04:13:56] <xlefay> so when MrBluze signs out of his BNC, he'll have 60 seconds to identify before he gets renamed soycow ;-)
[04:14:05] <xlefay> poutine++ I'll give you some for being funny
[04:14:05] <SlimShady> karma - poutine: -336
[04:14:06] <poutine> actually I can /ns ghost it
[04:14:21] <kobach> if you're actualy here
[04:14:38] <kobach> or set up a script
[04:15:50] <poutine> my alignment is lawful evil
[04:16:55] * kobach is chaotic neutral
[04:17:24] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm Lawful Sexy :)
[04:17:40] <poutine> I am criminally sexy, but that is not an alignment
[04:18:55] <kobach> i posted a pic of some bacon bits earlier
[04:18:59] <kobach> whoops wrong chan
[04:19:09] <xlefay> !grab poutine
[04:19:09] <SlimShady> Added quote 105
[04:19:16] <xlefay> No sir, it is not, but thanks for fish
[04:19:33] <xlefay> the fish* dammit, I need to sleep
[04:19:57] <kobach> what else is new
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[04:51:05] <SpallsHurgenson> god bless the Internet...
[04:51:11] <SpallsHurgenson> built with one purpose in mind...
[04:51:42] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - How Sustainable is Digital Fabrication? - http://sylnt.us - you-mean-3d-printing-wont-save-us?
[04:51:47] <SpallsHurgenson> so that in the event of a World War 3, America's Strategic Porn reserve would remain accessible even as nuclear fire rained down from the heavens
[04:51:59] <SpallsHurgenson> and damn, does it do a good job!
[04:52:25] <kobach> yup
[04:52:27] <kobach> thank fuck
[04:52:57] <SirFinkus> I was very confused and I thought that SpallsHurgenson's message was a summary of the SN post
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[05:01:44] <keplr> GoT and Cosmos tonight
[05:01:53] <SpallsHurgenson> Digital Fabrication was created so that in the event of WW3, America's Strategic Sex Toy reserve would not be lost :)
[05:02:33] <SpallsHurgenson> We must not allow a Real Doll Gap!
[05:03:01] <kobach> balls hurgenson always has the backup plans
[05:03:25] <keplr> Ball Hugger's Son
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[05:10:27] <kobach> :o
[05:13:02] <kobach> !quote 147
[05:13:02] <SlimShady> Can't find quote 147
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[07:50:57] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Is This Really a Bargin? - http://sylnt.us - Your-WOPR-your-way
[08:02:47] <stderr> Suggestion: If an editor publish a story, he has to be online for at least 15 minutes after the story is published, so he can fix the damn typos!
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[08:04:46] <NightHawk> heh, I like that typo :P
[08:05:09] <stderr> "That"? I count at least three...
[08:06:05] <stderr> One of those is a lowercase letter that should have been uppercase. But still...
[08:06:35] <NightHawk> what are the other two?
[08:06:48] <stderr> "fArs Technica"
[08:07:06] <stderr> "have i just been broke for too long and can't fathom the expense?" -> "Have ..."
[08:07:24] <stderr> Oh, wait... Four...
[08:07:31] <stderr> The "I" should be uppercase too...
[08:07:49] <NightHawk> Fair enough. I just read it as fArce Technica inwardly :P
[08:08:04] <stderr> :-)
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[08:09:25] <NightHawk> FWIW, I think it's a bit of a non story, computer geeks just normally set the bar for 'budget system' at a higher level than the average user.
[08:13:35] <stderr> You're probably right.
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[08:34:50] <SirFinkus> it looks like the queue is running low, that's probably why
[08:37:43] <NightHawk> That header text was a nice addition, makes you feel guilty for not sending in stories.
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[08:43:31] <SirFinkus> it's a little frustrating when I put effort into my submissions, and some people just do a "<source> writes:" and quote the article
[08:44:12] <SirFinkus> I mean, I might as well go to hacker news or reddit if I want that
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[10:02:42] <crutchy> pipedot has a cool new logo
[10:02:50] <crutchy> https://pipedot.org
[10:10:21] <SirFinkus> nice
[10:16:32] <crutchy> not sure why the top and bottom sticks couldn't have been vertical, but still looks ok with a little bit of slant
[10:20:50] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Is This Really a Bargain? - http://sylnt.us - Your-WOPR-your-way
[10:23:01] <arti> this site speaks to crutchy
[10:23:05] <arti> maybe you can style your bot after it
[10:23:08] <arti> g'oop
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[10:45:52] <crutchy> g'day arti
[10:46:12] * crutchy speaks to crutchy
[10:46:42] * crutchy argues with crutchy too :-P
[10:53:33] <arti> either that or you have an echo
[10:53:44] <arti> or maybe its crutchy time
[10:54:33] <crutchy> or i have a print :-P
[10:54:45] <crutchy> though i do prefer an echo
[10:55:01] <arti> makes the room sound bigger too!
[10:55:47] * crutchy wishes he could increase his monitor size with an echo
[10:56:36] <crutchy> echo increaseMonitorSize(7680,4320)
[10:56:36] <arti> or maybe just alter your size, so it appears larger
[10:56:51] <arti> the monitor enlarger
[10:56:55] <crutchy> echo shrinkCrutchy()
[10:57:08] * arti dips crutchy in cold water
[10:57:09] <arti> :D
[10:57:36] <crutchy> lol
[10:57:53] <crutchy> monitor enlarger had an unexpected side effect
[10:58:43] <arti> heh
[10:58:52] <arti> just include those quickly at the end of the ad
[10:58:57] <crutchy> this would be highly unusual conversation to have between males in real life
[10:59:05] <arti> maycauseshrinkageandmonetarylosses
[10:59:10] <crutchy> lol
[10:59:16] <arti> it's cool, we're not software fags
[10:59:21] <crutchy> hahahaha
[10:59:22] <crutchy> yeah
[10:59:45] <crutchy> maycauseshrinkageandmonetarylosses sounds a lot like marriage
[10:59:54] * arti has a better understanding of haskell types
[11:00:03] <crutchy> mkay
[11:00:11] <arti> took long enough, sheesh
[11:00:13] <crutchy> haskell is an alien language
[11:00:19] <crutchy> spoken by aliens
[11:00:22] <arti> indeed, but it has some really cool shit
[11:00:40] <crutchy> from alienistan :-P
[11:01:05] <arti> data Day = Monday | Tuesday | Wednesday | Thursday | Friday | Saturday | Sunday
[11:01:05] <arti> deriving (Eq, Ord, Show, Read, Bounded, Enum)
[11:01:20] <crutchy> it has refridgerated toilets
[11:01:39] <arti> or warmed ones, i've never been in a place where a chilly toilet seat was welcome
[11:02:12] <arti> Monday `compare` Wednesday would reaturn LT
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[11:02:42] <arti> so with that "record" you can now do bounds checking and comparisons
[11:02:56] <arti> minBound :: Day would return Monday
[11:03:14] <crutchy> mkay
[11:03:21] <arti> maxBound :: Day would return Sunday
[11:03:38] <arti> or you could do something cool like [Tuesday .. Friday]
[11:03:47] <arti> and that'll make a list with all the days in between
[11:03:56] <arti> without having to do shitty loop functions
[11:03:57] <crutchy> oh that sounds cool
[11:04:27] <arti> [minBound .. maxBound] :: [Day] would return [Monday,Tuesday,Wednesday,Thursday,Friday,Saturday,Sunday]
[11:04:34] * crutchy tries to remember if matlab has some of that type of functionality
[11:04:56] <arti> so there are better things, but the data types were key
[11:05:19] <arti> this is totally some random ass example
[11:05:37] <arti> there is still plenty i don't know yet, but its making more sense
[11:05:48] * arti wants to get into file and string manipulation
[11:05:53] <arti> and sockets
[11:06:03] <crutchy> i like sockets
[11:06:14] <arti> yeah, they're useful
[11:06:23] <arti> and fun... "hey look i scraped ur site"
[11:06:29] <arti> "huehuehue"
[11:06:33] <crutchy> lol
[11:07:11] <arti> gave a good example on how to do JS like true-ish stuff
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[11:07:12] <crutchy> or "hey look i gots thru yer firewall nyuk nyuk nyuk:
[11:07:26] <arti> uPnP i choose you
[11:07:32] <arti> or more like firmware attack, go!
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[11:07:53] <crutchy> firmware attack are go!
[11:08:12] <arti> >CHEAP ROUTER HAS TAKEN 1D6*10^6 LOGIN ATTEMPTS. ROUTER HAS DIED
[11:08:29] <crutchy> still haven't ironed out all my relay issues for work app
[11:08:31] <crutchy> :-(
[11:08:35] <arti> relay issues
[11:08:46] <arti> what, your map thing?
[11:08:57] * arti has a fun day of where did one of my commits go
[11:09:00] <crutchy> haven't gone back to it for a while, but today i was googling transparent proxies and thought that might help a bit
[11:09:06] <crutchy> lol
[11:09:11] <crutchy> i'm a git git
[11:09:14] <arti> relay... so you want to tunnel or something?
[11:09:16] <crutchy> a gitgit
[11:09:22] <arti> nah i think i did a fucking stash and forgot about it
[11:09:36] <crutchy> i wanna tunnel from two directions and meet in the middle :-P
[11:09:40] <arti> i went through the branches and found nothing, so i'm going to cross my fingers and hope its on my workstation in the office
[11:10:02] <arti> its not that big of a deal, but it'll be about a half day to redo the work
[11:10:04] <crutchy> isn't there some kinda history thing?
[11:10:18] <arti> yeah, i was just... idk it was a few weeks ago and i'm sure it'll turn up
[11:10:33] <crutchy> after you recode no doubt :-/
[11:10:37] <arti> i discovered an awesome feature with my db
[11:11:00] <arti> one of each answer can be potentially listed, instead of a single response
[11:11:16] * arti made some schema changes
[11:11:59] <crutchy> i have no idea what that means, but i do like dbs :-P
[11:12:11] <arti> the lamest thing was sifting through a key value array and organizing by a value
[11:12:33] <crutchy> asort :-P
[11:13:32] <crutchy> not sure how that translates to a db though
[11:13:45] <crutchy> but sounds interesting
[11:13:47] <arti> so i have two methods on a controller
[11:14:02] <arti> one returns an array of all the dropdowns for a particular page
[11:14:14] <arti> another returns an array of all the drop down values
[11:14:45] <arti> i want to organize the array elements of the dropdown values into sequential arrays organized by the dropdownId
[11:15:05] <crutchy> mkay
[11:15:21] <arti> $output = array();
[11:15:38] <arti> infact, i'll just paste this on a code sharing site
[11:15:54] <crutchy> lol yeah php looks like chinese in here
[11:16:06] <arti> http://pastebin.com
[11:16:14] <arti> may it help you
[11:17:05] <arti> you can see my garbage attempt above it here: http://pastebin.com
[11:17:06] <crutchy> could you just use one of the in_array functions?
[11:17:27] <crutchy> hmm maybe not cos it's a subarray
[11:18:28] <arti> that was a frustrating experience thursday
[11:18:47] <arti> more tools in the toolkit though
[11:19:18] <crutchy> is it cos you're using objects?
[11:19:27] <crutchy> $subarr->dropdownsId
[11:19:40] <arti> what comes back from the db is an object
[11:19:52] <crutchy> oh... not pdo then?
[11:20:06] <arti> i can request an array, but typically i stick to objects
[11:20:21] <crutchy> is this your own custom database engine?
[11:20:40] <arti> heres what calls things: http://pastebin.com
[11:22:20] <arti> nah i use a framework for the db stuff
[11:22:46] <arti> be more helpful if you saw the data and returned stuff
[11:23:04] <arti> i'm sure there is a better way to do it, this is the initial attempt
[11:23:25] <crutchy> i'm definitely not a g'oop programmer in php
[11:23:41] <arti> it's a different way of thinking
[11:23:45] <crutchy> i can do it in delphi, but php objects are a bit weird
[11:23:46] * arti isn't the worlds best
[11:24:33] <crutchy> nah it's not you
[11:24:58] <crutchy> i'm a noob when it comes to php classes
[11:25:01] <arti> yeah, php has its warts
[11:25:01] <crutchy> and objects
[11:25:10] <arti> uh, i'll locate some screencasts that might help
[11:25:20] <arti> bite sized into 10-15minute segments
[11:25:25] <crutchy> gimme a delphi class and i'll be all over it like a fly on a turd
[11:25:53] <crutchy> but php oop is different
[11:25:58] <arti> meta programming stuff, pretty cool for refactoring classes and organizing things better
[11:26:23] <crutchy> so $this->modal(); returns an array
[11:26:24] <crutchy> ?
[11:26:34] <arti> oh yes, that's my own thing
[11:26:45] <arti> so i noticed i had a lot of boilerplate code
[11:26:53] <arti> stuff for alert dialogs etc.
[11:27:05] <arti> so i moved that to a method in the parent class
[11:27:45] <arti> when the class constructor loads, it pulls the values from temporary places if they exist and passes them to the view
[11:28:04] <crutchy> $this->modal(); intiates the $data array and then you elements to $data with $data['page_title'] = $this->title.' - '.$this->heading; etc
[11:28:09] <crutchy> mkay
[11:28:29] <arti> yeah, the header stuff is unique (or i expect it to be)
[11:28:56] <crutchy> looks pretty cool, even if i'm not understanding it very well, but it's not your fault that i'm an object noob :-P
[11:29:10] <arti> there's a better approach i'm sure, but this works for the moment
[11:29:36] <crutchy> oh oh you starting to sound like me :-P
[11:29:48] <arti> alerts are of 4 types, info, success, warning, error
[11:30:04] <arti> and there is a title and body
[11:30:22] <crutchy> sounds better than how i make pages
[11:30:32] <arti> well after you have to repeat and change shit
[11:30:32] <crutchy> echo "<body>\n";
[11:30:35] <crutchy> :-P
[11:30:38] * arti kicks that over to a view
[11:30:54] <arti> and with the javascript stuff, where you frankenstine markup into a string
[11:31:01] * arti has switched to using a template
[11:31:22] <arti> which reminds me, i want to get into backbone some more
[11:31:26] <crutchy> frankenstine markup into a string?
[11:31:30] <arti> yeah
[11:31:50] <crutchy> i'm slouching so bad my backbone is almost horizontal :-D
[11:32:09] <crutchy> probably twisted and bent too
[11:32:12] <arti> ourMessage = ""+errorMessageText+"";
[11:32:34] <arti> it can get messy if you're using lots of variables
[11:32:44] <crutchy> i prolly have a good example of frankenstein js somewhere
[11:32:52] * arti is quite guilty of doing that
[11:33:13] <crutchy> oh fuck
[11:33:30] <crutchy> su
[11:33:33] <crutchy> mount -a
[11:33:38] <crutchy> stupid nas
[11:33:46] <arti> wat?
[11:34:08] <crutchy> for some reason the nas with my frankencode wasn't mounted
[11:35:53] <crutchy> lucky i gots all my js frankencode in one file... "script.inc" :-P
[11:36:11] <arti> hey, it works
[11:36:19] <crutchy> echo " parent.document.getElementById(\"log\").innerHTML=parent.document.getElementById(\"last\").innerHTML+' '+parent.document.getElementById(\"log\").innerHTML;\n";
[11:36:25] <crutchy> hehe how about that little gem
[11:36:46] <arti> for awhile i was like "why are the logs escaped
[11:36:51] <crutchy> php generating js generating html :-P
[11:37:09] * arti uses a view for the js, and then that view has variables where they're needed, which get passed to it
[11:37:31] <crutchy> i should rename my script file to 'frankenscript.inc'
[11:37:59] <arti> http://handlebarsjs.com
[11:38:45] <arti> anyway that won't really work for this particular example
[11:39:01] <arti> for smaller stuff its alright, but it gets annoying after awhile
[11:39:06] <crutchy> is it like smarty?
[11:39:13] <arti> yeah, kinda
[11:39:20] <crutchy> disclaimer: i don't use smarty
[11:39:51] <arti> instead of doing the franken code, you'd make a template and then pass the data to it
[11:40:14] <arti> this is more for presentation not script stuff
[11:40:22] <arti> but i'm sure with some cleverness
[11:40:28] <crutchy> kinda like using sprintf with % placeholders
[11:40:51] <crutchy> but bigger
[11:40:55] <arti> yeah
[11:41:04] <arti> in certain situations it'll be useful
[11:41:11] <arti> just depends on what you're dealing with
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[11:42:39] <crutchy> i often thought about doing some templating with sprintf, but i usually start with whatever is easiest :-P
[11:43:34] <crutchy> $Data["SectionPropertiesReset"]="SolidRect radius of gyration (y-axis) mismatch. \$r_y_strand = ".htmlspecialchars(sprintf("%.10f",$r_y_strand))." \$r_y_db = ".htmlspecialchars(sprintf("%.10f",$r_y_db))." delta = ".htmlspecialchars(sprintf("%.10f",$delta));
[11:43:46] <crutchy> good example where sprintf templating would have been better
[11:43:58] <crutchy> esp since i'm using sprintf anyway
[11:44:25] <arti> id probably split that up
[11:44:43] <arti> one function to make the data array, with values, and another function to gen the values
[11:45:04] <arti> depends how much mucking about there is
[11:45:20] <arti> "well we're changing this" "fuuuu"
[11:45:28] <crutchy> .lol
[11:45:47] <arti> "we're adding stuff to it now, and dropping x"
[11:45:50] <crutchy> i have changed some core stuff but i gotta be a bit careful about it
[11:46:17] <crutchy> that area of the app is right in the guts
[11:46:57] <crutchy> probably could make incremental changes
[11:47:22] <arti> just depends, also if this is your first venture with it, you'll have a better idea the next time around
[11:47:27] <arti> yay for patterns
[11:47:49] <crutchy> i've heard of patterns but i dunno much about it
[11:47:54] <crutchy> .me hides
[11:48:06] * crutchy fogets how to type
[11:48:07] <arti> i'll collect some stuff from my notes tomorrow
[11:48:31] <arti> also got a book that'll be a good addition to your toolkit
[11:48:52] <arti> anyway mate, i gotta get some rest, i'll catch ya later
[11:49:15] <crutchy> np arti. good chattin
[11:49:21] <crutchy> sleep well
[11:49:29] <arti> indeed, take care
[11:49:32] * arti salutes
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[13:31:46] <crutchy> hey mrbluze
[13:31:55] <crutchy> how the hell are ya :-)
[13:32:53] <MrBluze> hey crutchy
[13:32:58] <MrBluze> i'm bloody good
[13:32:59] <MrBluze> how r u?
[13:33:57] <crutchy> i'm ok
[13:34:04] <MrBluze> just ok?
[13:34:16] <MrBluze> how's the better half?
[13:34:28] <crutchy> working on my vessel app, so yeah happy enough
[13:34:38] <crutchy> wifey is doin arty farty stuff
[13:35:06] <crutchy> still not havin much fun with her back
[13:35:15] <crutchy> but she battlin through :-)
[13:35:19] <MrBluze> she an artist?
[13:35:40] <crutchy> she does all sorts of stuff
[13:35:43] * MrBluze sits up
[13:36:12] <crutchy> at the moment she's making some tile thingy's for some kind of cards or something
[13:36:17] <crutchy> :-P
[13:36:22] <MrBluze> she could work for us ;)
[13:36:34] <MrBluze> does she do 2d art? painting / drawing?
[13:36:48] <crutchy> she does some painting and a bit of drawing
[13:37:06] <crutchy> scrapbooking (real and digital)
[13:37:09] <MrBluze> any poota art?
[13:37:17] <crutchy> not a lot
[13:37:24] <MrBluze> any humorous stuff?
[13:37:51] <crutchy> hmm not that i've seen. she mainly likes photography. she gets paid for that
[13:37:59] <crutchy> well not so much anymore
[13:38:23] <crutchy> while she stuck in bed she does other crafty things
[13:38:23] <MrBluze> mmm..
[13:38:40] <crutchy> she gets me to help her with measurements sometimes :-P
[13:38:42] <MrBluze> i been thinking of doing some community art thing for the site
[13:39:02] <crutchy> have you seen the pipedot logo?
[13:39:07] <MrBluze> but mainly on geeky stuff
[13:39:10] <crutchy> pretty sweet
[13:39:19] <crutchy> sounds like there was a competition
[13:39:26] <MrBluze> yes
[13:40:36] <MrBluze> nice
[13:40:51] <crutchy> xlefay's got me into php unix philosophy
[13:40:55] <MrBluze> to me it's sterile .. but
[13:41:25] <crutchy> it looks very sleek
[13:41:32] <MrBluze> it does
[13:41:39] <MrBluze> our look is crufty still
[13:41:53] <crutchy> i like crufty :-P
[13:42:06] <crutchy> i hate slash, but only cos i can't tame it
[13:42:10] <MrBluze> but it's not 500 designs
[13:42:15] <MrBluze> it's 1 design, 500 versions
[13:42:20] <crutchy> lol
[13:42:28] <MrBluze> slash is a beast
[13:42:39] <MrBluze> but there's something awesome abotu doing a renovation job
[13:43:42] <crutchy> i wanna do a renovation job
[13:43:51] <crutchy> trying to build up some motivation
[13:44:07] <crutchy> i need to learn more about pipes and forks etc
[13:44:38] <MrBluze> yeah
[13:44:39] <crutchy> i like the idea of exec'ing modules, but there needs to be a clear channel of communication up and down the tree
[13:44:56] <MrBluze> i'm happy to be patient
[13:45:04] <MrBluze> this community is awesome
[13:45:22] <crutchy> full of geeks and nerds :-)
[13:46:08] <MrBluze> yup
[13:46:15] <MrBluze> pipedot looks cool
[13:46:23] <crutchy> the top level node is important to get right. xlefay helped me realise it's like an operating system
[13:46:38] <MrBluze> but i like the irc, i like the .onion access, and the other ideas
[13:46:44] <crutchy> top level needs to handle task management and scheduling
[13:46:49] <MrBluze> yes
[13:46:49] <crutchy> lol
[13:46:53] <crutchy> .onion?
[13:47:03] <MrBluze> yeah we have a tor address
[13:47:13] <crutchy> never used tor before
[13:47:23] <crutchy> wow i'm a poet and didn't know it
[13:47:31] <MrBluze> so u can secretly anonymously access SN and do.. nothing controversial.. but it's like hiding in a cubby house
[13:47:37] <crutchy> lol
[13:48:07] <crutchy> i'm partial to bridges myself ;-P
[13:48:09] <MrBluze> and the sys guys have done novel things .. broken new ground with server setups etc
[13:48:40] <crutchy> yeah they lose me there
[13:48:51] <crutchy> i'm not much into server settings up
[13:49:07] <crutchy> as long as it works and i can run my code :-)
[13:49:14] <MrBluze> well because i am too time poor to do anything of much use, apart from talk a lot
[13:49:21] <MrBluze> i got quickly shunted into style/art
[13:49:24] <crutchy> mee too :-D
[13:49:38] <crutchy> style is what people see... most important
[13:49:45] <MrBluze> it is
[13:49:51] <MrBluze> but we are hamstrung by the slash problems
[13:50:04] <crutchy> but i must admit for me style is more of an afterthought
[13:50:06] <MrBluze> however i do believe we'll be getting there.. especially after we finally decide on a name
[13:50:16] <crutchy> yeah slash is my priority thoughts
[13:50:26] <crutchy> i want to kill it :-P
[13:50:30] <MrBluze> THEN I can look at redesigning logo's, new color schemes, and rethink of the UI / workflow
[13:50:40] <MrBluze> yeah i want to migrate out of slash to something better
[13:50:46] <MrBluze> but bit by bit, like a renovation
[13:51:05] <crutchy> that's why i like a modular approach
[13:51:14] <crutchy> i wanna hook into existing slashdb
[13:51:25] <crutchy> but multithreaded
[13:51:55] <crutchy> i'm sure it can be done but still working on it
[13:52:15] <MrBluze> yeah
[13:52:18] <MrBluze> exactrly
[13:52:32] <MrBluze> if someone can make a page load properly, but using php
[13:52:37] <crutchy> this is one approach:
[13:52:38] <crutchy> echo php child.php|at now
[13:52:57] <MrBluze> well i dont mind perl
[13:52:57] <crutchy> or
[13:53:12] <MrBluze> but php means more people have skills and possibly the production time is shorter
[13:53:15] <crutchy> php irc.php 2>&1
[13:53:41] <crutchy> still trying to figure out how to get child processes to use same stdout
[13:54:10] <crutchy> seems easy but not working for me, but i'm just doing my normal approach... making shit up as i go along :-P
[13:54:32] <crutchy> i wanna make it so that modules can be coded in any language
[13:54:35] <MrBluze> yeah that's how i have learnt programming sorry to say
[13:54:40] <MrBluze> right
[13:54:44] <crutchy> and talk to each other though files, pipes and cli args
[13:55:04] <MrBluze> i want so i can tell someone what we need, and they can find a way to do it without dying from desparation
[13:55:08] <crutchy> like the ol' unix philosophy :-)
[13:55:31] <MrBluze> from little things big things grow ;)
[13:55:36] <crutchy> yeah
[13:56:02] <MrBluze> yes, that philosophy works.. and works.. and works
[13:56:20] <crutchy> very powerful, and flexible, without being complicated
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[13:57:25] <MrBluze> yes, but it takes a lot of thought to achieve it
[13:57:43] <crutchy> yeah
[13:57:56] <crutchy> need to come up with a bit of a framework (as much as i hate that word)
[13:58:11] <crutchy> but could still be a flexible framework, like normal ci utils
[13:58:17] <crutchy> s/ci/cli/
[13:58:17] <SedBot> <crutchy> but could still be a flexible framework, like normal cli utils
[13:58:54] <MrBluze> my idea on approaching the problem of slash is to deconstruct it
[13:59:03] <MrBluze> so.. come up with a bare bones output
[13:59:10] <MrBluze> make that standard, and build the UI up from it again
[13:59:17] <crutchy> i've tried a bit of that
[13:59:26] <crutchy> i got very bored very quickly
[13:59:30] <MrBluze> it's boring
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[13:59:51] <MrBluze> but once someone has a way of saying.. "spit out the title, spit out the text, spit out the comment tree bit by bit"
[14:00:04] <crutchy> the template system actually kinda makes sense
[14:00:07] <MrBluze> we wrap it in an html formatter, then wrap that with css, then sprinkle some js
[14:00:11] <crutchy> i'd like to reuse the templates
[14:00:27] <crutchy> maybe simplify them a little
[14:00:42] <MrBluze> well thing is most of it is quite clever but it shows the effects of short-cuts and whatever
[14:00:52] <MrBluze> it's totally understandable that it got the way it is
[14:01:09] <crutchy> i like the idea of %comment_id% type thing. that's very sensible
[14:02:57] <MrBluze> yep
[14:03:19] <MrBluze> well it's thankfully not up to me to decide what will result
[14:03:42] <crutchy> could be
[14:03:44] <MrBluze> however i wish i could get in and play with the css more .. i started doing it but it is very time consuming
[14:03:45] <crutchy> at some point
[14:04:18] <MrBluze> and i found the dev vm to be a bit flaky on my machine .. half the time it won't restart
[14:04:23] <MrBluze> takes about 10 reboots and then it works
[14:04:28] <crutchy> oh
[14:04:44] <MrBluze> i have heaps of other stuff to worry about anyway for now so i am busy besides
[14:05:01] <crutchy> yeah
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[14:50:52] <crutchy> ooh just had a little win
[14:51:05] <crutchy> echo'd stout of a forked exec
[14:51:10] <crutchy> :-)
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[14:59:48] <NC|Webchat> That's incredibly irritating
[15:00:06] <NC|Webchat> Something broke and I got flood kicked off the network
[15:00:14] <NC|Webchat> ^- xlefay Landon: ideas
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[15:00:48] <paulej72> Yes it is annoying. Do you think it is an issue with your internet connection?
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[15:01:44] <paulej72> NCommander: you mentioned that you had issues with ssh as well, wonder it that is related
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[15:02:10] <NCommander> paulej72, might be an issue on my end, but my IRC proxy is located on linode
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[15:20:06] <Landon> jeepers NCommander what'd you do
[15:20:34] <Landon> I don't see any notices about you being a flooder other than the quit msg
[15:20:36] <crutchy> i think he tinkered
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[15:46:33] <crutchy> hi janrinok
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[17:01:54] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Remembering Mulltiple Programming Languages? - http://sylnt.us - I-forget-more-than-I-remember
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[17:08:53] <Landon> ETYPO in article
[17:08:57] <Landon> article title*
[17:14:13] <xlefay> NCommander, Landon, when the server detects a client is about to flood it'll just boot them off without giving us a warning. it really depends on what you're doing; best to check your own logs
[17:16:27] <ar> NCommander: it *might* be your irc client flooding with /whois, if you're on some big channel
[17:16:41] <NCommander> ar, I'll have to look at bit
[17:17:34] <kobach> OH ROFL
[17:17:37] <kobach> i just scrolled up
[17:30:15] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Remembering Multiple Programming Languages? - http://sylnt.us - I-forget-more-than-I-remember
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[18:10:16] <Blackmoore> not enough coffee.
[18:11:47] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Verdict on the Silicon Valley Premiere - http://sylnt.us - did-anyone-recognise-themself?
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[18:37:08] <Blackmoore> hey Janrinok - do we feel that economic news about empolyment fits the mission?
[18:37:23] <Blackmoore> http://fivethirtyeight.com
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[19:25:03] <Teckla> Blackmoore: That's interesting. I'm seriously beginning to wonder if the U.S. should move to a 32 hour (4 day) work week...
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[20:01:10] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - NASA Seeking Input on New Space Suit Design - http://sylnt.us - from-the-lunar-catwalk
[20:09:08] <Blackmoore> @Teckla - yeah. I ponder that myself sometiimes
[20:09:40] <Blackmoore> at very least peole with jobs would have more time to consume
[20:10:19] <Blackmoore> but in a better world they would get the same pay as they now do under 40 hours. just earn it in 32
[20:10:46] <Blackmoore> .. and then you'd have a bigger problem.. more people who now have time to work two jobs.
[20:11:46] <Blackmoore> (since income has not kept up with inflation, and they now have the time to bring in the income that they have been spending on credit)
[20:19:26] <janrinok> Blackmoore: Hi, I just caught your post further up the page. If it affects the employment of tech related jobs, then why not?
[20:20:19] <Blackmoore> and worse case, you bring home less per week (since your per hour has not changed) - you cant find a second job - AND now you decover you can protest :p
[20:20:42] <Blackmoore> cool. I'll throw it in the bin
[20:23:45] <janrinok> Blackmoore: my client didn't highlight you message because of the uppercase 'J' - it's a bit fussy that way....
[20:25:42] <janrinok> brb
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[21:12:03] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Keeping The Signal/Noise Ratio High - http://sylnt.us - that-was-a-lot-of-comments-to-read
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[21:51:54] <janrinok> cheers guys
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[22:15:55] <kobach> sup Blackmoore
[22:33:25] <Blackmoore> back in the cubicle again
[22:36:11] <Blackmoore> thin place need real coffee. if this crap was any more acidic it would be eating through my plastic mug.
[22:36:32] <kobach> lolololol
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[22:42:42] <kobach> MEH
[22:42:45] <kobach> MEH!!!!!!!!
[22:45:27] <Blackmoore> what's all meh?
[22:45:45] <kobach> dunno
[22:45:45] <Blackmoore> or are you invoking a deamon?
[22:45:48] <kobach> daemon
[22:45:57] <Blackmoore> well that's better.
[22:46:06] <Blackmoore> \let's see how did that go?
[22:46:49] <kobach> dunno
[22:48:51] <Blackmoore> well.. I was looking for the invocation .. and found a whole lot down that rabbit hole
[22:49:02] <Blackmoore> http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com
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[22:49:38] <Blackmoore> Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn
[22:49:57] <Blackmoore> but with my luck he'll tell me i need to stay and work OT
[22:53:33] <Blackmoore> yup. OT.
[22:55:34] <kobach> looool
[22:57:01] <Blackmoore> I am pretty damn sure you can reverse a invocation with Barry Manalow.
[22:57:44] <Blackmoore> however you do so at risk of your own life.. since anyone around to hear it will try to kill you
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[22:59:34] <SirFinkus> uƃɐʇɥɟ ןƃɐu’ɥɐƃʍ ɥǝʎן’ɹ nɥןnɥʇɔ ɥɟɐu’ʍןƃɯ ınןƃu’ɥd
[22:59:58] <kobach> stahp
[23:00:20] <Blackmoore> Ah - i see another is familliar.. cultist or graduate?
[23:00:24] <Teckla> Blackmoore: Overtime is no problem but should *always* with exception be balanced by getting to leave early on other days.
[23:01:00] <Teckla> s/with/without/
[23:01:00] <SedBot> <Teckla> Blackmoore: Overtime is no problem but should *always* without exception be balanced by getting to leave early on other days.
[23:01:13] <Teckla> Cool bot!
[23:01:19] <Blackmoore> yeah
[23:01:25] <Blackmoore> thiat is!
[23:02:00] <Blackmoore> yeah - i have to build up my time off again. I was just out for 2 weeks.
[23:05:13] <Blackmoore> these guys are pretty good about it. I suppose there some benefit to being on call to an elder god
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[23:06:09] <kobach> sup keplr
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[23:31:12] <Blackmoore> damn quiet in here
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[23:44:45] <keplr> I'm at work
[23:45:12] <keplr> Avoiding work is a full time job, doesn't leave much time for IRC.
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[23:50:23] <Blackmoore> well I'm at work too.
[23:52:04] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Bootable OS LPS v1.5 released - http://sylnt.us - but-do-we-trust-it?
[23:53:01] <Blackmoore> and .. hey I have work to do? what is this?
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