#Soylent | Logs for 2014-04-03

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[23:58:49] <arti> nite Blackmoore
[23:58:24] <Blackmoore> alright. g'night. i'm out
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[23:52:21] <xlefay> rofl
[23:52:21] <arti> "it sounds like dolphin squeeks!"
[23:52:18] <Blackmoore> hehe
[23:52:12] * arti should send you some redtube links
[23:52:02] <xlefay> If it's around say, 23:50, it's best not to have speakers at full blast!
[23:52:01] <arti> errbody loves it
[23:51:42] <xlefay> woa, heads up: auto play!
[23:50:58] <crutchy> https://www.facebook.com
[23:49:53] <SlimShady> The current maximum UID is 4021, owned by BuildTheRobots
[23:49:53] <xlefay> SlimShady, current-uid
[23:49:42] <SlimShady> karma - bacon: 208
[23:49:42] <xlefay> bacon++
[23:49:38] <SlimShady> karma - bacon: 207
[23:49:38] <mattie_p> bacon++
[23:49:32] <SlimShady> karma - bacon: 206
[23:49:32] <SN> bacon++
[23:49:15] <xlefay> Which it does!
[23:49:06] <mattie_p> it is brain dead, if it is disrespecting bacon
[23:47:31] <xlefay> ugh, guess it's not that brain dead then.
[23:47:15] <SlimShady> "bacon++ ": Bite my shiny. metal. ass.
[23:47:15] <xlefay> !bite "bacon++ "
[23:47:03] <SlimShady> MicroSoft: Bite my shiny. metal. ass.
[23:47:03] <xlefay> !bite MicroSoft
[23:46:00] <xlefay> That would be an awesome way to make Dice lose money imo.
[23:45:29] <xlefay> Naturally, that would be a fine print with exact specifications of height, width, etc.
[23:44:46] <xlefay> I was talking about XXL sized bits
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[23:44:30] <mattie_p> I'd sell out for 5 million bits of bacon, assuming the bacon bits were of a normal size for bacon bits (and not bacon molecules, for instance)
[23:43:35] <xlefay> mattie_p, yea :P
[23:43:28] <xlefay> Dice: "That's amazing! Let's go boys!"
[23:43:25] <michealpwalls> haha
[23:43:18] <xlefay> We: "You can buy this product for 5 million bits of bacon."
[23:43:17] <michealpwalls> That'd be so greasy
[23:43:14] * mattie_p shudders at IIS and Windows Server in general
[23:43:02] <xlefay> michealpwalls, the profits being, bacon
[23:42:45] <michealpwalls> Think of the profits
[23:42:44] <xlefay> Think that would be hilarious
[23:42:43] <michealpwalls> Exactly
[23:42:39] <xlefay> michealpwalls, and what, offer it to Dice?
[23:42:29] <michealpwalls> I think that's pretty fair
[23:42:26] <xlefay> Oh right
[23:42:24] <michealpwalls> But seriously, we should port Slashcode to classic asp and run it off an IIS.
[23:42:22] <Blackmoore> well, it was bacon. i never siad how much
[23:41:54] <xlefay> Blackmoore, ehm can I retract that job offer and take it myself?
[23:41:50] <crutchy> cause of power outage thismorning: https://www.facebook.com
[23:41:46] <michealpwalls> centOS made me colour blind :/
[23:41:37] * Bytram|away is away: off for the evening
[23:41:32] <Blackmoore> we'll give youpayments in bacon
[23:41:27] <xlefay> The red or the blue one?
[23:41:17] <michealpwalls> You've crossed the line :P
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[23:41:09] <michealpwalls> nonono
[23:41:05] <xlefay> michealpwalls, and you could be the sysadmin!
[23:40:54] <michealpwalls> So "stable" !
[23:40:51] <michealpwalls> wine on centos is like 1.0 I think (giggle)
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[23:40:11] <xlefay> NCommander, although, I am particularly fond of 'WinOS - based on CentOS'
[23:40:11] <michealpwalls> Yea, microsoft has a fair open source license :D
[23:39:51] <arti> we all know how reasonable the licensing is, too!
[23:39:51] * NCommander goes to find food while his laptop installs Bundle::Slash
[23:39:37] <NCommander> xlefay, and got Microsoft to open source it :-)
[23:39:36] <michealpwalls> hah
[23:39:36] <Blackmoore> and buy all of us a case of tullemore dew
[23:39:28] <xlefay> NCommander, and?
[23:39:04] <NCommander> xlefay, if you buy the license, and port Slash and ...
[23:39:02] <xlefay> michealpwalls, no, we'll specifically abuse CentOS for that and we'll call it WinOS
[23:38:57] <michealpwalls> It'll be so edgy. We'll be cool, like Beta SoylentNews! (hifive)
[23:38:47] <xlefay> Blackmoore, about Windows server, IIS, MSSQL or drama?
[23:38:41] <michealpwalls> You could run SQL Server with WINE on the Ubuntu Server! Just think of the possibilites, guys!
[23:38:24] <Blackmoore> @xlefay sadly i have to agree.
[23:38:21] <michealpwalls> haha
[23:38:12] <xlefay> Also, I floated the idea of MS SQL earlier today and guess what? NO RESPONSE AT ALL!
[23:37:53] <michealpwalls> Yes xlefay, indeed!
[23:37:26] <michealpwalls> haha 'upper management'
[23:37:21] <crutchy> the node could be drama.soylentnews.org :-P
[23:37:19] <xlefay> Unfortunately, upper management (read: NCommander) declined our request, how inconsiderative of him, right?
[23:36:46] <michealpwalls> :O
[23:36:41] <xlefay> Actually, that idea was floated quite a bit
[23:36:28] <michealpwalls> (ducks)
[23:36:26] <michealpwalls> I agree with crutchy, SoylentNews should switch to Windows Server, with IIS!
[23:36:01] <michealpwalls> roar!
[23:36:00] <crutchy> if we run windows server with iis and various other crap on some kinda virtual node, it will crap out often enough to keep the geek chatter going :-P
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[23:34:56] <crutchy> especially bacon grease :-P
[23:34:49] <crutchy> and everyone loves grease
[23:34:38] <crutchy> squeaky wheels get the grease
[23:34:06] <xlefay> Blackmoore, ironically, it did seem drama gets the most attention
[23:34:05] <song-of-the-pogo> So, are there ptbs in here that i should let know, or just let it be?
[23:33:32] <xlefay> https://github.com
[23:33:16] <song-of-the-pogo> "Internal SAN check blew up checking moderation rights. Please let the powers that be know how and where you recieved this error "
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[23:30:22] <SlimShady> karma - pancakes: 3
[23:30:22] <Blackmoore> pancakes++
[23:30:06] <SlimShady> karma - bacon: 205
[23:30:06] <Blackmoore> bacon++
[23:29:47] <SlimShady> karma - coffee: 10
[23:29:47] <crutchy> coffee++
[23:29:05] <crutchy> keeps making time move forward
[23:28:57] <crutchy> stupid clock
[23:28:55] <crutchy> gotta go to work soon
[23:28:50] <crutchy> damn
[23:28:07] <crutchy> then all of geekdom will flock to the other site with drama
[23:27:46] <crutchy> no don't do that
[23:27:18] <Blackmoore> Well we could go stir up drama on someone eles's site and then tell the geeks to come here to get awayfrom it
[23:26:08] <crutchy> one of them virtual gizmos
[23:26:02] <crutchy> yeah
[23:25:52] <xlefay> We can fake it!
[23:25:50] <xlefay> hmm
[23:25:33] <crutchy> maybe we can make an "IT drama honeypot"
[23:25:16] <crutchy> how we gunna attract all them geeks out there without IT drama?
[23:24:51] <xlefay> We're prepared for that sorta situations :P
[23:24:45] <crutchy> well we shot ourselves in the foot by doin that
[23:24:38] <xlefay> we'd simply put a snapshot back and voila, it's fixed'
[23:24:25] <xlefay> The thing is.. everything can be fixed within minutes if really need be
[23:23:51] <crutchy> also just need to make sure if you do something really good (i mean really bad) make sure you're on the opposite side of the earth to wherever nc is at the time
[23:23:06] <crutchy> bugger
[23:22:59] <xlefay> down side, we'd be up in minutes
[23:22:40] <crutchy> hahahaha
[23:22:36] <xlefay> ssl cert for MySQL that is.. :p
[23:22:24] <xlefay> crutchy, well I suppose, I could remove the SSL cert, kill the LDAP & Kerberos, run a global rm -rf --no-preserve-root / and such, would that suffice?
[23:22:22] <crutchy> maybe when the next drama happens, all the guys that actually know what to do should pretend they don't :-)
[23:21:27] <crutchy> need chaos and madness, and people will flock like flies to a turd :-D
[23:21:19] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - No Drone Killing Licenses in Deer Trail, Colorado - http://sylnt.us - arriving-home-with-a-dead-drone-strapped-on-your-SUV
[23:20:48] <crutchy> :-P
[23:20:37] <crutchy> ^^^^that's bad
[23:20:32] <crutchy> problem with the signin thing was that people that were online seemed to know what to do
[23:20:00] <crutchy> something nobody else would have a clue how to fix :-P
[23:19:43] <crutchy> i bet nc could come up with something really juicy
[23:19:20] <crutchy> ol' bobby tables
[23:19:13] <crutchy> lol
[23:19:11] <crutchy> oh that was just a baby one
[23:19:04] <paulej72> crutchy: drop table users;
[23:19:00] <crutchy> not on irc but on main soylent site
[23:18:57] <Blackmoore> didnt we have an emergency yesterday - the whole new signin thing?
[23:18:35] <crutchy> maybe run shtf.sh
[23:18:27] <xlefay> oh, sec
[23:18:21] <crutchy> we need an emergency
[23:18:16] <crutchy> dunno
[23:18:09] <crutchy> lol
[23:18:08] <xlefay> crutchy, something like that, what should I trip?
[23:17:54] <Blackmoore> as rusty as the rust belt gets. crutchy
[23:17:51] <crutchy> sorry you must have some kind of foghorn that sounds when someone mentions your nick eh?
[23:17:35] <xlefay> g'day, what's up?
[23:17:29] <crutchy> g'day mate
[23:17:26] <crutchy> lol
[23:17:21] <xlefay> ?
[23:17:11] <Blackmoore> I'm in Buffalo
[23:17:11] <crutchy> maybe xlefay can trip something :-)
[23:16:20] <crutchy> it's like the ol' cops and donuts thing
[23:16:00] <crutchy> we can't help it :-P
[23:15:52] <crutchy> nerds and geeks feed off IT "emergencies"
[23:15:24] <crutchy> arti: we just need another soylent saga
[23:13:39] <crutchy> north east?
[23:13:35] <crutchy> where abouts are you blackmoore?
[23:12:39] <crutchy> i can breed more bots :-P
[23:12:29] <SedBot> <arti> we need to breed more clients.
[23:12:28] <arti> s/client/clients/
[23:12:27] <Blackmoore> this winter was brutal. and the storms (2 of them) in the last 2 weeks were just a kick in the nads.
[23:12:21] <arti> we need to breed more client.
[23:12:09] * crutchy has a bacon-flavored spy
[23:11:32] <crutchy> it's dead in there
[23:11:24] <crutchy> meh nothin happening in hashville anyways
[23:11:23] <Blackmoore> yep. but where it was piled up it is still there
[23:11:10] <arti> got a buddy in nyny
[23:11:00] <arti> wasn't it like 60 yesterday?
[23:10:52] <Blackmoore> we're down to the snowbanks at this point
[23:10:31] <Blackmoore> buffalo
[23:10:26] <Blackmoore> and i still want my two dollars..
[23:10:17] <arti> where do you hail from?
[23:10:03] <Blackmoore> but it is "real snow"
[23:09:48] <Blackmoore> *sigh* nope, just the ice off the ground here.
[23:09:27] <crutchy> waaazaaaap!
[23:09:12] <arti> @.@
[23:09:09] <arti> too early for doobies
[23:09:00] * crutchy ##
[23:07:03] <crutchy> chocolate coated marshmallow with shredded coconut on the outside?
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[23:06:34] <arti> snows throwballs
[23:06:27] <Blackmoore> *throws snowballs*
[23:06:17] <crutchy> lol
[23:06:13] <crutchy> 400 ft above mean sea level
[23:06:02] <arti> "oh you're deicing your windows?" *goes around barefoot* "...hold on gotta turn on the AC"
[23:05:59] <crutchy> if it snows here it's front page news
[23:05:41] <crutchy> yeah
[23:05:32] <arti> fuck studded tires and black ice. had my fill of that
[23:05:31] <crutchy> haha
[23:05:24] <crutchy> isn't that what they call an oxymoron
[23:05:22] * arti enjoys this
[23:05:17] <arti> yeah, grass turns brown and it rains, maybe.
[23:05:08] <crutchy> "california winter"
[23:04:58] <crutchy> lol
[23:04:53] <crutchy> feels like winter here today too
[23:04:41] <arti> nice, that's california winter right there
[23:04:39] <crutchy> well that too :-P
[23:04:32] <crutchy> it was 30+ deg C two days ago
[23:04:27] <arti> is this marriage speak for unshaven?
[23:04:07] <crutchy> i'm rugged up
[23:03:56] <arti> [ FFFFSSSSSSSSing Intensifies ]
[23:03:52] <crutchy> not today
[23:03:45] * arti increases the elderly deaths from heat stroke
[23:03:39] <crutchy> maybe lots of them
[23:03:30] <arti> tree bears climbing the poles again?
[23:03:29] <crutchy> few towns lost power and still don't have back on
[23:03:16] <crutchy> wow sounds like power outage was a decent one
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[23:01:53] * arti understands this passion well
[23:01:42] <crutchy> damn irc bots have caught my interest :-P
[23:01:20] <crutchy> i haven't really touched my work app for a couple of weeks now
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[22:57:28] <arti> e pluribus anus.
[22:57:24] <crutchy> kinky
[22:57:22] <crutchy> hahahaha
[22:57:10] <arti> wife: "you're doing it wrong" me: "i'm aware of the issue"
[22:57:01] <crutchy> he'd have to dig through the coal
[22:56:56] <arti> that would be my default response to anything
[22:56:53] <crutchy> lol not around here
[22:56:44] <crutchy> rang up faults line and they said there were known issues
[22:56:40] <arti> maybe some meth guy discovered copper!
[22:56:29] <crutchy> dunno
[22:56:24] <arti> that sucks, windy or what?
[22:56:02] <crutchy> stupid power went out for a bit
[22:55:52] <arti> l'oop crutchy
[22:55:45] <crutchy> g'oop arti
[22:55:43] * arti likes waking up to money collected from automated payment systems
[22:55:30] <arti> what's occuring?
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[22:51:16] <Blackmoore> *rage*
[22:51:10] <Blackmoore> *hates automated payment services*
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[22:14:05] <xlefay> Yes, sir.
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[22:13:09] <Bytram> get some dilithium crystals then
[22:11:41] <Blackmoore> we are fresh out of power pellets
[22:02:53] <xlefay> We should probably disable the ping time out, then we'll have ghosts!
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[21:58:05] <xlefay> michealpwalls, it's a bit more than just that.
[21:57:44] <michealpwalls> err, s:/one/home
[21:57:36] <michealpwalls> brb at one :)
[21:57:34] <michealpwalls> hometime! wooOO!
[21:57:00] <michealpwalls> Seems to be all it is. You log-in, get your profile and dance :P
[21:56:34] <michealpwalls> I'm sure an MS marketing guy might take offense to that, but meh
[21:56:23] <michealpwalls> It's just a database with windows profiles, basically, right?
[21:56:07] <xlefay> AD is pretty awesome though, it really is
[21:55:58] <xlefay> (although, I'm 100% sure about domain\user whereas a simple 'user' would login to the "default" domain)
[21:55:57] <michealpwalls> hah AD is schizophrenic :/
[21:55:39] <xlefay> They probably want to separate those two groups and keep GPO's easy, but meh, I think they can just do that on one domain but.. I ain't no windows AD admin so don't quote me on it
[21:55:10] <xlefay> Yep, but that's what it is
[21:54:29] <michealpwalls> So they have a *domain* here called ADMIN? That's confusing!
[21:54:07] <michealpwalls> It's a really weird setup I think
[21:54:04] <xlefay> nah domain\user
[21:53:57] <xlefay> Although that should probably just be done with proper groups..
[21:53:57] <michealpwalls> Hopefully? I could be wrong. I just assumed they were admins haha
[21:53:39] <xlefay> ADMIN\ would indicate a separate domain, doesn't that just give them more permissions but not admin rights perse?
[21:53:27] <michealpwalls> Whereas students get a limited user roaming profile that gets whiped everytime. Pretty useless, honestly.
[21:53:11] <michealpwalls> All students who log in just type their student number and pw, but full-time faculty use an ADMIN\ prefix that gets them, I assume, an administrator's profile from the active directory server
[21:52:12] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Breaking News: Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO - http://sylnt.us
[21:52:09] <michealpwalls> Yea, a lot of the full-time faculty here, they log-in with a ADMIN\ prefix :/
[21:51:52] * xlefay sighs, people..
[21:51:47] <xlefay> eh what?
[21:51:31] <michealpwalls> They dont' even really realize what it means, hehe :/
[21:51:12] <michealpwalls> Probably. A lot of people here are logging in as admins :)
[21:50:37] * Teckla is starting to wonder if most companies would be better off deploying Chromebooks, with actualy Windows PCs/laptops only where absolutely required.
[21:49:47] <Teckla> michealpwalls: Oops, heh
[21:49:46] <michealpwalls> Yea, same. That's why I bring my lappy now. When logging into these machines it takes ages. The cup 'n string just aint what it used to be :P
[21:49:15] <michealpwalls> 'cause I tried killing explorer.exe and relaunching it but then my quicklunch area was gone (facepalm)
[21:49:12] <Teckla> I would have restarted 1/2 way through the demo, but I.T. puts so much crap on these computers that it takes a good 10 minutes until the machine is usable
[21:48:54] <michealpwalls> Indeed! I had to reset IE and then restart
[21:48:40] <Teckla> michealpwalls: Hmmm, my experience may or may not be related to yours, but I did, in fact, have to restart Windows entirely to get IE11 behaving well again
[21:48:36] <michealpwalls> It would open the window, but inside the browser view area it was always gray and never initialized. The menues were all grayed out etc. Was liek that for about a day until I used the stupid Reset button.
[21:47:50] <michealpwalls> While debugging some scripts in IE11 it crashed repeatedly and then stopped starting up properly..
[21:46:32] <xlefay> LOL
[21:46:20] <Teckla> On a positive note, it only repeatedly crashed the single tab
[21:44:53] <xlefay> Teckla, no doubt ;)
[21:44:45] <michealpwalls> LOL Teckla. I love how IE blames the page... "Waiting for <your page's title> to respond" LOL no no no IE, my page is fucking waiting for *you* to respond..
[21:44:44] <Teckla> Needless to say, IE remains firmly on my "this is garbage, avoid it" list >:|
[21:44:32] <xlefay> but IE9 oh man.. I feel for you
[21:44:13] <xlefay> IE10 does a lot of shit right, it might be the very first sane IE version since forever
[21:44:04] <Teckla> IE11 crashed on me repeatedly while I was trying to demo some new front end stuff yesterday :(
[21:43:57] <xlefay> ugh michealpwalls don't complain about IE10 no need
[21:43:41] <michealpwalls> I basically don't have to do anything, their lives are bad enough I say :P
[21:43:30] <michealpwalls> It's bad enough half the people in this office run IE9 and the other half run IE10
[21:43:20] <michealpwalls> hah
[21:43:15] <Blackmoore> start replacing thier pc's with typewriters.
[21:43:15] <michealpwalls> Heading hope in ~15 anyways
[21:41:37] <xlefay> I feel for you
[21:41:34] <xlefay> ugh
[21:41:18] <michealpwalls> They hate technology and etc. It's good times!
[21:41:07] <michealpwalls> So like, it's a bunch of teachers 'n stuff that I work with :)
[21:40:45] <dentonj> awesome, the topic images are working
[21:40:16] <michealpwalls> a college, in the Centre for Teaching and Learning :D
[21:40:02] <xlefay> So, where do you work again?
[21:39:55] <xlefay> (hifives back)
[21:39:44] <michealpwalls> (hifive)
[21:39:41] <michealpwalls> In a way it's all good. I get paid to copy/paste code :P
[21:38:46] <michealpwalls> It's been an exercise in patients :)
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[21:37:55] <michealpwalls> Yea, that's what I said
[21:37:49] <xlefay> you can just check affected rows, no?
[21:37:41] <xlefay> err, what now?
[21:37:08] <michealpwalls> People say things like "Well, if it just shows what the other script sent it, how do we know it was saved in the Database properly?" (*think in my head: Gee, 'cause it hasn't thrown any errors?!*) and hense the crazy select after updating :(
[21:36:27] <xlefay> You did at least smack him, no?
[21:36:09] <xlefay> From the little you've told me, I don't want to know more, I believe that it's been horrible.
[21:35:48] <michealpwalls> I need sleep. This week has been horrible :(
[21:35:40] <michealpwalls> Yea, honestly sessions is such an easy solution I don't even know why I'm fighting with this stupid form LMAO!
[21:35:17] <xlefay> If you just need user data to the next page, just do that and save yourself more pain
[21:35:01] <xlefay> michealpwalls, for now, just go with sessions..
[21:34:27] <xlefay> Still, you should have educated him!
[21:34:13] <xlefay> Ok, that's a bit too much I suppose
[21:34:02] <xlefay> and you should probably have done the world a favor and kill the initial author
[21:33:36] <michealpwalls> I should have thrown all of it out from day 1, to be honest..
[21:33:31] <xlefay> so, how hard is it to: <input type="hidden" name="email" value="email"> or am I missing something?
[21:31:54] <michealpwalls> :(
[21:31:53] <michealpwalls> I know, right?!
[21:31:48] <xlefay> That's not silly, that's stupid
[21:31:41] <michealpwalls> So, LOL.. The damned script is a raving mess.. I just want to pass the email as a string to another script and let it send it.. So I jammed it in a hidden input field and have "Confirm" as the submit button for that 1-field form (The hidden field)
[21:30:48] <michealpwalls> It's like, the 3rd and final step in the registration. It stores all their info in the db.. Then fetches it from the db (I know, retarded.. meh.) and displays what it fetches from the DB in the browser... Weeell someone now would like that it mail this stuff to the user... But not immediatly, only once they've clicked a "Confirm" button (facepalm)
[21:29:46] <michealpwalls> haha
[21:29:37] <xlefay> I don't do anything quite as good as I do silly ;)
[21:29:18] <michealpwalls> so tired, can't think properly
[21:29:08] <michealpwalls> It's silly, I'm just going to go make coffee LMAO
[21:28:51] <xlefay> let me ask this another way, what are you trying to accomplish?
[21:28:18] <michealpwalls> *thinks*
[21:28:14] <xlefay> So decode it, encode, profit?
[21:27:53] <michealpwalls> It's a PITA 'cause it's already encoded partially
[21:27:15] <xlefay> Yeah for example.. you do encode shit right before putting them in said hidden element?
[21:26:50] <michealpwalls> The rendered html from the browser?
[21:26:22] <michealpwalls> I guess I could use a session.. Meh
[21:26:21] <xlefay> show the html form? (http://pastie.org)
[21:26:04] <michealpwalls> once it reaches a <br>, that is, it seems to overflow out of the hidden input field and start rendering in the browser (facepalm)
[21:25:44] <michealpwalls> Am I just so tired I can't even think...? LOL I can't put a bunch of html elements in a hidden input form to pass along to another PHP script. The html elements put into the hiddent input field breaks the field LOL
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[20:59:31] <Blackmoore> And lo - on the 24th day the licensing hath ended, and the propert y transended to coporate ownership... Amen
[20:51:26] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Card Layout, Old Hat or Future of the Web? - http://sylnt.us - things-being-reinvented-again
[20:42:02] <arti> for the big print giveth, and the fine print taketh away
[20:41:50] <arti> it has a very precise meaning
[20:41:28] <Blackmoore> that is a form of encryption isnt it?
[20:40:57] <Blackmoore> can i get a decoder ring that works on leagaleeze?
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[19:53:57] <arti> er Alice
[19:53:50] <arti> sounds like ALICE
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[19:51:41] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Kerbal Space Program Game Patch Goes Live - http://sylnt.us - play-it-again-sam
[19:51:24] <Bytram> great initialism: ALES
[19:50:49] <arti> "secret decoder ring takes the pain out of application level encryption schemes"
[19:50:32] <arti> sounds like a great name for a project
[19:50:22] * Bytram offers his secret decoder ring
[19:50:04] * arti needs to encode the session cookie data
[19:49:22] <Bytram> yep.... best to not put that in your site index
[19:49:02] <arti> kinda strange how delete works over rest :)
[19:48:50] <Bytram> well, 'cept post/get/ etc.
[19:48:48] <arti> hahaha
[19:48:43] <Blackmoore|afk> *throws arti a 1up and a plumbers cap*
[19:48:40] <arti> i'm pleased things are wrapping up, yeah it's pretty crazy
[19:48:29] <Bytram> yup. when I stop and think about it, it's pretty amazing it even works, given that http was not intended to be an interactive medium, IIRC.
[19:47:44] <arti> it's something different but there is plumbing to do
[19:47:03] <Bytram> you sound so, umm, excited.
[19:46:39] <arti> preparing for another day of ajax goodness
[19:46:14] <Bytram> well, thanks. you?
[19:45:52] <arti> how's it going ^_^
[19:45:44] <Bytram> arti: hiya!
[19:44:45] <arti> greetings
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[19:31:18] <Teckla> michealpwalls: Have you updated to Mavericks?
[19:29:04] <michealpwalls> Teckla: Yea I was on the Slow Leapard ;)
[19:27:16] <xlefay> You can join ;)
[19:26:47] <Cyprus> not feeling the love xlefay
[19:26:31] <xlefay> I'll set ya an invite exemption
[19:26:26] <xlefay> invite only eh ;)
[19:25:57] <Cyprus> ummm... i can't join ##?
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[19:22:34] <Teckla> Though I don't think that's happened since I upgraded her from Snow Leopard to Mavericks, so perhaps it's all fixed now \o/
[19:22:20] <Teckla> michealpwalls: I've noticed similar issues, like if I rebooted my wi-fi router, my wife's OS X machine would lose, but not reestablish, the wi-fi connection. It was annoying.
[19:20:54] <michealpwalls> On linux... Poof! "You have been disconnected.. You are not connected to xyz" (rofl)
[19:20:42] <michealpwalls> So OS X that was on my Macbook Pro had this ridiculous WiFi bug.. When it resumed from hibernation or sleep, the OS would not refresh the WiFi status.. It *showed* all bars, but there wasn't really any connection.. I would have to manually disconnect and reconnect.
[19:20:03] <michealpwalls> Speaking of WiFi.. Hah!
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[18:56:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> but also the keyboard and the way it works with the docking station and the wifi not working under Linux.
[18:55:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> No. Mostly the insane trackpad design.
[18:54:22] <xlefay> The lack of ponies being the first that comes to mind?
[18:54:00] * AndyTheAbsurd is typing this on a Lenovo ThinkPad T440p right now and is considerably irritated at a number of things about it
[18:53:58] <xlefay> michealpwalls, rofl
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[18:53:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> michealpwalls: when I bought mine, there wasn't a wireless thinkpad keyboard, but there *was* a USB one. You can see my pictures of it on amazon.com. Unfortunately the right arrow key was sticky and I ended up kinda breaking it while trying to fix it.
[18:51:37] <michealpwalls> AndyTheAbsurd: Pfft, you have one of their 'heirloom laptops' ?! Or you mean the wireless thinkpad keyboard itself hehe
[18:51:04] <michealpwalls> Iunno hhow you knew, but thx! :D
[18:51:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> that thinkpad keyboard is....not the one that they sold me. Mine has a MUCH bigger area at the "bottom"
[18:50:58] <michealpwalls> My favorite!
[18:50:49] <michealpwalls> haha
[18:50:45] <xlefay> Screw that, I'm buying you: http://goo.gl
[18:49:21] <michealpwalls> xlefay said he was going to buy me that for my birthday. Pretty awesome guy! :)
[18:49:08] <michealpwalls> This is so awesome: http://bunniefoo.com
[18:48:30] <xlefay> rofl ;-)
[18:48:22] <michealpwalls> Apple will sue you :P
[18:48:19] <michealpwalls> haha xlefay you can't say that!
[18:47:58] <michealpwalls> LOL this is why most of the time when I'm at work I'm running Windows. Just don't have the time 'till I get home (giggle)
[18:47:58] <xlefay> I installed ubuntu and dare I say, everything "just worked"!
[18:47:49] <xlefay> michealpwalls, now, that problem I didn't have
[18:47:15] <kobach> lol
[18:47:11] <michealpwalls> *shakes fist in the air*
[18:47:05] <michealpwalls> LOL finally fixed my heat issues on Debian by updating to the 3.13 kernel... Now the HDMI out ports aren't working (dull)
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[18:46:39] <michealpwalls> Out of the frying pan.. Into the fire!
[18:39:28] <xlefay> enjoy
[18:38:38] <Blackmoore|afk> lunch for me
[18:38:35] <xlefay> there ya go
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[18:38:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> put a / before it
[18:38:16] <xlefay> ;-)
[18:38:15] <xlefay> /nick Blackmoore|afk
[18:38:12] <xlefay> rofl
[18:38:09] <SedBot> <xlefay> <Blackmoore> a/nd fail
[18:38:08] <xlefay> Blackmoore, s/n/\/n/
[18:38:05] <Blackmoore> and fail
[18:37:52] <Blackmoore> nick Blackmoore|afk
[18:28:53] <xlefay> ah bugger
[18:28:39] <michealpwalls> haha no, I'm just a co-op student so probs wouldnt' have worked well :X
[18:23:00] <kobach> lol
[18:20:32] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Build 2014 Conference Day 1 - http://sylnt.us - yes-microsoft-still-has-relevance
[18:18:46] <xlefay> 'could have' doesn't sound promising
[18:18:33] <xlefay> michealpwalls, so did you?
[18:11:20] <xlefay> sounded better in my mind oh well.
[18:11:00] <xlefay> yeah, kinda lost my drift there
[18:10:56] <michealpwalls> lol
[18:10:41] <xlefay> Yes, or be like "Hey, it's impolite staring at a sleeping err, ..."
[18:10:00] <michealpwalls> Then I'd be all "*ahem* I was jus tplugging my lappy in.."
[18:09:53] <michealpwalls> That was me on Monday... I literally could have curled up under my desk and went to sleep until a co-worker found me
[18:09:24] <xlefay> man, I feel like taking a nap
[18:08:55] <michealpwalls> haha
[18:08:51] <xlefay> I blame you; did you have some wine?
[18:07:33] <michealpwalls> I blame opera! Where's my HTTPS Everywhere plugin :(
[18:07:18] <michealpwalls> my bad :P
[18:07:11] <xlefay> michealpwalls, s/http/https/
[18:07:09] <michealpwalls> Sorry, was fighting with my monitors LOL
[18:07:01] <michealpwalls> http://soylentnews.org
[18:06:59] <xlefay> link?
[18:06:49] <michealpwalls> haha Hairyfeet's comment is hilarious
[18:05:29] <michealpwalls> haha
[18:05:06] <xlefay> not unless Linus has lost his mind or gets credits to watch hentai
[18:04:33] <michealpwalls> I would pay to read that mailing list convo :D
[18:04:27] <michealpwalls> There is absolutely *no way* anything like WINE would get into the main kernel (rofl)
[18:04:14] <michealpwalls> LMAO I read for days the flame-wars that raged on the mailing lists over that dude (Matt, I think?) trying to get his UEFI Secure Boot shim included, and the lamenting that followed by Linus. "Mentle masturbation" and etc.
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[18:03:09] <xlefay> but it's china.. so who really cares?
[18:02:47] <xlefay> I'd worry where the hell my pitchfork is
[18:02:40] <xlefay> michealpwalls, well, if they do integrate Wine in the kernel, I wouldn't worry about my career outlook anymore!
[17:59:37] <kobach> ^
[17:59:37] <michealpwalls> LOL
[17:59:32] <xlefay> ain't that the truth brotha
[17:59:27] <SlimShady> Added quote 95
[17:59:26] <xlefay> !grab michealpwalls
[17:59:06] <michealpwalls> "I can live with the currency manipulation and the human rights violations in your sweat-shops... But embedding WINE in the linux Kernel? THAT'S WHERE I DRAW THE LINE!"
[17:58:38] <michealpwalls> LOL xlefay
[17:58:15] <michealpwalls> Makes me worry about my future career outlook :(
[17:58:05] <michealpwalls> Longene or Lengene or something? I can't remember. YOu have to google translate their homepage, but meh. I am amazed at the scope, honestly... The scope of some of these Chinese software development projects are absolutely staggering :/
[17:57:56] <xlefay> fuck you china, fuck you.
[17:57:53] * xlefay stops buying stuff "Made in China"
[17:57:42] <xlefay> eh whatnow
[17:57:24] <michealpwalls> Or something like that, anyways :/
[17:57:22] <kobach> oh my
[17:57:10] <michealpwalls> (puke)
[17:57:08] <michealpwalls> Apparently there's a Chinese project to incorporate WINE into the Linux Kernel...
[17:56:42] <kobach> lol
[17:56:38] <kobach> i do too on the command line
[17:56:18] <xlefay> I shudder at the thought of wine
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[17:55:56] <michealpwalls> Sometimes the VM outperformed the "native" WINE :/
[17:55:48] <michealpwalls> Don't get me wrong, I love WINE. Mostly it was the first thing I would think of to try... Buuut over the years, I just stopped thinking and stopped trying 'cause mostly, if it even ran without throwing exceptions left and right, it would run absolutely terrible..
[17:55:06] <xlefay> I never tried wine tho
[17:55:05] <michealpwalls> Yea that program was neat!
[17:55:03] <xlefay> Yeah I needed a Windows vm too
[17:54:56] <xlefay> ooh I remember that
[17:54:50] <michealpwalls> VMWare Fusion is pretty slick :P
[17:54:40] <michealpwalls> That was from "Networking FUndamentals", tried to run it via WINE on a macbook (LOL!)
[17:54:28] <michealpwalls> I couldn't get Cisco Packet Tracer to work under wine, had to VM that. That's the only thing I can think of
[17:54:14] <xlefay> janrinok|afk, be safe out there buddy
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[17:53:56] <michealpwalls> LOL
[17:53:55] <kobach> lack thereof
[17:53:49] <xlefay> well.. as good as you can define "working" in the windows world, of course
[17:53:34] <xlefay> least then chances are most things "will actually work"
[17:53:31] <kobach> haha
[17:53:27] <michealpwalls> LOL xlefay. Yea, pretty much :P
[17:53:18] <kobach> xlefay: because all the non windows ones are broken
[17:53:16] <xlefay> If you really need that one program for whatever reason, go install a VM or whatever
[17:53:11] <michealpwalls> In my experience, at least. I've had some good mileage with it but then others some aweful mileage. I just dual-boot, fuck it LOL
[17:53:05] <kobach> roller coaster tycoon 2 and starcraft run great
[17:53:00] <xlefay> Why do you use Linux if you use a Windows program? Kinda defeats the purpose.. methinks
[17:52:47] <kobach> not really
[17:52:43] <michealpwalls> WINE is a shot in the dark mostly :/
[17:52:41] <kobach> 90% chance those mirc bots would also be broken
[17:52:34] <michealpwalls> LOL!
[17:52:23] <kobach> XD
[17:52:20] <xlefay> I don't need no stinkin' wine on any of my machines
[17:52:19] <kobach> XD
[17:52:13] <xlefay> I'm going to pretend I didn't see that ;-)
[17:52:10] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - NASA Suspends Collaboration with Russia - http://sylnt.us - sabre-rattle-heard-in-space
[17:51:56] <kobach> XD
[17:51:46] <kobach> :D
[17:51:42] <kobach> then we can have an mirc bot :p
[17:51:34] <kobach> xlefay: im pretty sure you should think about what you said this morning and install wine anyway
[17:50:03] <xlefay> Bytram, I'm glad it works for you
[17:49:37] <Blackmoore> yeah. we have a lot of clinics popping up now. if it had been at a decent hour (and had thought of it at the time) that would have been a better option. both faster and cheaper than ER
[17:48:28] <kobach> yes Blackmoore
[17:48:17] <kobach> lest i be called crazy
[17:48:17] <Blackmoore> US medical billing is all fucked up - because of people who either dont have insurance or dont pay the bill. to deal with that they hike prices by 1000%
[17:48:10] <kobach> but we wont go into that
[17:48:07] <kobach> theres ways to get rid of it without drugs
[17:48:02] <michealpwalls> Because of the wait times, the diagnostic queues.. Treatment is very ineffective because of the time factors.
[17:47:55] <kobach> well
[17:47:47] <michealpwalls> BUT... Diagnose me with Cancer? It's likely a fucking death sentence here...
[17:47:37] <michealpwalls> In Canada... SImple things are quick and painless. I twouldnt' have cost me anything and I could have got stiched up in about ~30 minutes at a "clinic"
[17:47:33] <kobach> $400 is cheap for medical stuff
[17:47:20] <michealpwalls> In the U.S.. If it's trivial, it's still a pain in your ass (A $400 stitches?! That's crazy!) but in the U.S, you can get access (rapidly) to the best medical treatment in the fucking world...
[17:46:58] <kobach> do what
[17:46:39] <michealpwalls> I think that applies to this, you see...
[17:46:34] <michealpwalls> I think, it's the far ends of the spectrum that really show the difference. It's like a saying in programming languages.. Typically the language can make the simple things easier, thereby making many of the complex things impossible.. *or* it can focus on making the complex things possible.. Thereby massively complicating even the simplest of things.
[17:46:32] <kobach> ahh nvm
[17:46:28] <Blackmoore> i was shaking too much
[17:46:26] <kobach> could have managed glue though
[17:46:09] <Blackmoore> yeah - i could not have stitched it myself
[17:46:07] <kobach> because you cant reach it right etc
[17:45:52] <kobach> there are situations where you have to have someone else do it though
[17:45:41] <michealpwalls> Ouch!
[17:45:29] <Blackmoore> yep.
[17:45:25] <kobach> well now you know
[17:45:22] <kobach> yea
[17:44:59] <Blackmoore> i would have just superglued it
[17:44:50] <Blackmoore> i gashed my hand with a chisel, yes. if i had known how long i was going to wait. OR the cost ($400 AFTER insurance)
[17:44:49] <kobach> you can superglue it or they can for $1000
[17:44:37] <kobach> im serious
[17:44:28] <michealpwalls> LOL Kobach
[17:44:22] <kobach> but dunno the situation
[17:44:19] <kobach> with superglue
[17:44:16] <kobach> depending on location you should have just gone home and done it yourself
[17:43:56] <Blackmoore> now i was low priority
[17:43:56] <michealpwalls> :/
[17:43:55] <michealpwalls> LOL my news told me that only happened here!
[17:43:46] <Blackmoore> yup
[17:43:42] <michealpwalls> Jesus, Blackmoore. That's in the U.S?!
[17:43:33] <kobach> theyve spent hundreds of billions, if not a trillion on it already
[17:43:31] <michealpwalls> Amagad Lockheed Martin's peice of garbage F35... What a fucking emberassment.
[17:43:28] <Blackmoore> @micheal i have insurance and i was in ER for 12 HOURS last year for 3 stitches
[17:43:23] <kobach> complete shit of a plane
[17:43:20] <michealpwalls> It's crazy. I try not to think much about it.. As irrational as that may seem. It's just futile and hopeless. All it ever does is depress you to think about.
[17:43:15] <kobach> f35 for example
[17:43:08] <kobach> so where is all the defense money going? to the contractors for useless projects
[17:42:38] <kobach> equipt is falling apart
[17:42:35] <kobach> you dont hear it on tv but the troops know
[17:42:25] <kobach> yup michealpwalls we got millitary contractors down here sucking up all our money
[17:42:02] <kobach> literally, news corp
[17:41:59] <michealpwalls> LOL
[17:41:57] <michealpwalls> The 25 billion to the automotive industry, 35 billion to the damned naval shipbuilding facities.. Nah that's cool.. But a $10 million penny? That's where we Canadians draw the line in the sand!
[17:41:47] <kobach> because the corporations own the news
[17:41:26] <michealpwalls> Yea it's really quite insane. That's very true here, too. People complained about the Penny... A fucking $10 million/annum expense of the Canadian Mint.. Ohh we gotta talk about that for fucking *months* on the news, 'cause it's "a waste of money.".. BUt the news doesn't ever mention Microsoft and Google's tax exemptions... Or the fucking 70 billion dollars they gave to banks (again!)
[17:40:55] <kobach> in taxes
[17:40:18] <michealpwalls> But mostly the news shows it to be a 1-sided thing, right, where the "guvment" just takes everyones money :/
[17:40:15] <kobach> yeah people here will complain about spending $36 a person for food stamps while they wont mind paying $4000 a person for corporate welfare
[17:40:02] <michealpwalls> That's how it works. When I graduate and I'm making ~$75,000 - $90,000 a year, *I'll* be paying the taxes and not getting any credits.. It's a balance in some sense.
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[17:39:18] <michealpwalls> In fact... LOL now I'm sure I'll get some 'mericans in a rage for pointing this out, but, because I'm a low-income student and father of 2 boys... When people are paying taxes here... I am *getting* money (Those taxes, LOL)
[17:38:35] <michealpwalls> LOL
[17:38:32] <kobach> faux news
[17:38:28] <kobach> lol
[17:38:19] <kobach> lets go from 17 to 31 in 9 months
[17:38:14] <michealpwalls> LOL, but FOX news wont tell ya that :P
[17:38:09] <michealpwalls> The counter argument (If you watch FOX news, LOL!) is that, because you don't pay all the taxes we pay, you can "afford" the private insurance.. Iunno how much logic that makes, 'cause low-income families like mine don't fucking *pay* those taxes at all...
[17:38:08] <kobach> like what the fuck happened to enjoying your 20s
[17:37:51] <kobach> literally half of the people i went to high school with hav ekids now, and im 22
[17:37:39] <kobach> too many kids having babies because of the abstinence only sex education
[17:37:33] <michealpwalls> So insane
[17:37:29] <kobach> yeah people are dumb
[17:37:19] <michealpwalls> I heard just having a baby can cost like ~15k - 20k... That's cray cray!
[17:37:17] <kobach> walk out the door the goes another 200 for some insurance thing
[17:37:08] <kobach> writes you some shit there goes another 500
[17:37:02] <michealpwalls> LOL!
[17:36:58] <kobach> doctor shows up there goes 800
[17:36:52] <kobach> the doctor will see you in a few minutes, there goes 500 in a half hour
[17:36:46] <michealpwalls> And you're in a queue 'cause their backed up by ~6 hours (facepalm)
[17:36:34] <michealpwalls> Yea, I've heard some messed up situations in the U.S when people have no insurance and ambulances bicker over who is "responsible"... What a quagmire. Here, you get the hospital fast.. Super fast. But then you sit there, in a room full of people who need help, too...
[17:36:20] <kobach> walk in the hospital doors, there goes 1k
[17:36:02] <kobach> thats $600 before you even get to the hospital
[17:35:52] <kobach> anyone who even thinks of calling 911 is insane
[17:35:48] <michealpwalls> Like I mean.. LOL, nothing is perfect I should say
[17:35:37] <kobach> because we cant afford the ambulance
[17:35:35] <michealpwalls> Yea that's why it's so confusing, right? I dont 'think anything would work
[17:35:31] <kobach> we do the same thing at home
[17:35:21] <michealpwalls> Peopel fucking die in waiting rooms... Or at home, waiting for that MRI scan scheduled 2 months from their death :P
[17:35:20] <kobach> but when you do get in you get what you need
[17:35:03] <kobach> yup
[17:35:00] <michealpwalls> Average wait times here are around 6 - 8 hours.
[17:34:55] <michealpwalls> When you're in legitimate need for care, and you have to wait 8 hours in an emergency waiting room. I'm not exagerating, either.. LOL
[17:34:46] <kobach> not since like 08
[17:34:34] <kobach> yeah unfortuenately the tea party got taken over long ago by republicans, no libertarians really involved anymore
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[17:34:16] <michealpwalls> But then again, it's easy to see on the tele the consequences of a fully private health industry, too. Both are fucked.
[17:34:02] <michealpwalls> 'cause we're bombarded with American TV. The whole Libertarian Tea Party shit.. People eat it up here. Although we can *see* both sides here in full swing. We have very large, old social institutions (Health Canada, obviously). It's very easy to see and experience the cons of a government-run health care industry :/
[17:33:58] <kobach> the rest of them are real, but since the corporations keep them out of the media almost nobody knows about them
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[17:33:26] <kobach> we only have 2 fake parties
[17:33:17] <kobach> it is
[17:33:04] <michealpwalls> Iunno. Honestly the situation seems much more complicated in Canada..
[17:32:45] <kobach> lol
[17:32:45] <kobach> yup
[17:32:30] <michealpwalls> Or cut-throat competition. What's the spelling, Laisez Frair or whatevs? Free Markets bitches! :D
[17:32:11] <michealpwalls> Democratic Socialism, I think. That's a pretty sane concept... At least on paper it is :P
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[17:32:00] <kobach> they better the lives of everyone in the country, its the government investing in its people
[17:31:53] <michealpwalls> hahaha
[17:31:44] <kobach> heres the real answer to that question: who gives a fuck
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[17:31:22] <michealpwalls> It's getting that way, slowly, here... Usually you can counter it easily with "Well by that logic, isn't Health Care communist? And public Education, fire-fighters, police, roads and sewers too?" :P
[17:30:58] <kobach> although i think theyve finally accepted a few years ago that blacks can marry
[17:30:46] <michealpwalls> haha kobach, I know right?
[17:30:33] <michealpwalls> Of course that would only create incentive for the private firms to continue to stop investing in infrastructure LOL
[17:30:27] <kobach> its still the 1950s for most americans
[17:30:19] <kobach> down here youd be accused of being communist
[17:29:59] <michealpwalls> Wouldn't that be win-win? At least better than status quo? :P
[17:29:32] <michealpwalls> exlefay: I wanna meet you half-way... How does government giving money to private firms to expand infrastructure, bound by contract to spend the money (To the fraction of a dollar?) on the infrastructure.
[17:28:18] <kobach> lol
[17:28:13] <michealpwalls> My email never stops :(
[17:27:59] <kobach> if i get more than 5 emails a day i get mad
[17:27:53] <michealpwalls> Good times, lemme tell ya!
[17:27:42] <michealpwalls> I remember dial-up!
[17:27:41] <Titanium> pfft i get near 1k emails per day
[17:27:34] <kobach> oh those days
[17:27:31] <kobach> LOL
[17:27:25] <Bytram> no worries on that one... my connexction is too slow to even consider it. have to D/l and then watch THAT
[17:27:21] <michealpwalls> :D
[17:27:20] <michealpwalls> Coupled with the DishWashingRobot released in v27, no more dishes bra!
[17:27:07] <michealpwalls> LOL Bytram, yea. Firefox is retarded. I hear in v30 they'll have the Kitchen Sink polished and ready to be enabled by default!
[17:26:56] <kobach> i hope you havent any youtube tabs open!
[17:26:47] <kobach> :(
[17:26:42] <kobach> firefox alone is enough to tax that
[17:26:35] <kobach> lol Bytram
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[17:26:18] <michealpwalls> Wish it had a service for mail notification, so I don't have to keep this 3,000 gorrilla running *just* for alerts (dull)
[17:26:16] <Bytram> my poor little box is gonna struggle between firefox, hexchat, and now tbird, too. (only have 1.25gb memory)
[17:26:10] <kobach> you make it sound like a bad thing
[17:25:58] <michealpwalls> I settled with Thunderbird, too
[17:25:49] <kobach> it should have 10x more
[17:25:43] <kobach> i find it annoying that the poll has only 450 votes
[17:25:08] <kobach> lol
[17:24:59] <Bytram> yeah. I figured that out :/
[17:24:40] <NCommander> Bytram, thunderbird downloads headers by default
[17:23:55] <kobach> LOL
[17:23:46] <Bytram> NCommander: only 1700 msgs in my inbox, plus I've got about a hundred or so folders... good thing I'm not D/Ling the msgs, too atm! LOL!
[17:23:27] <kobach> ;)
[17:23:23] <kobach> they dont use fish in hockey
[17:23:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> :(
[17:23:17] <kobach> no
[17:23:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> s/puck/bass/
[17:22:50] <kobach> [puck drops]
[17:22:36] <kobach> OOOH CAAAAAANADA, WE STAND ON GUAARD FORRR THEEE!!!!!
[17:22:26] <NCommander> Bytram, :-)
[17:22:07] <kobach> oh canada, we stand on guard for thee
[17:22:02] <Bytram> NCommander: xlefay seems to be working... slowly, but working! I've got quite a few K message headers(?) to d/l LOL!
[17:21:58] <kobach> god keep our land, glorious and free
[17:21:20] <janrinok> lol
[17:21:15] <kobach> canadian bacon does yes
[17:21:07] <janrinok> does bacon cause that sort of thing.....?
[17:20:29] <michealpwalls> lol
[17:20:20] <kobach> from far and wide, o-oh Canada, we stand on guard for thee
[17:20:06] <kobach> with glowing hearts, we see thee rise, the true north strong and freee
[17:19:41] <michealpwalls> Oh Canada!
[17:19:39] <michealpwalls> Our Home on Native Lands :)
[17:19:33] <kobach> thy*
[17:19:29] <kobach> true patriots love, in all they sons command
[17:19:17] <michealpwalls> Go Canada! :)
[17:19:07] <michealpwalls> Germany building a new, renewable energy infrastructure... What's Canada doing? Building oil pipelines through native reserves and nature conservatories.
[17:18:49] <Blackmoore> true. i can point at manny-mae or freddie-mac over here too i have no confidence it would be run well.
[17:18:45] <kobach> those billionaires are always up to somthing!
[17:18:32] <kobach> so they can sell canadian oil to the chinese*
[17:18:31] <michealpwalls> hah! Brilliant
[17:18:15] <kobach> michealpwalls: dont feel bad, theyre trying to put a giant pipline over our largest aquifers so they can sell oil to the chinese
[17:17:37] <michealpwalls> xlefay: hehehe so, it's hard to have *any* confidence in government-run entities :P
[17:17:25] <Blackmoore> the service (the gas in this case) can be billed on any number of handlers
[17:17:24] <michealpwalls> xlefay: Here's a rench for those shiny gears of yours, btw. Petro-Canada was a "crown corporation". Built with Canadian tax dollars, supposedly to "serve Canadians". Long story short and a few government switches later, it was sold to the highest bidding private corporation.
[17:16:58] <Blackmoore> there is a monopoly that is responsible for the infrastructure, but they are not the service provide
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[17:16:09] <Blackmoore> see; what i think would work is the way the gas companies in the us have now.
[17:15:56] <michealpwalls> I would cancel the satellite but my wife insists on keeping it (dull)
[17:15:21] <michealpwalls> *bangs head on desk*
[17:15:16] <michealpwalls> That's just not cool, not cool guys. This "alles-in-1 Basis" package crushes all my services, individually, and is cheaper than any of my individual services are.
[17:15:11] <janrinok> ...plus I get UK tv and not the Fr crap
[17:15:04] <Blackmoore> yeah. i ditched cable a couple years ago. i just dont watch tv.
[17:14:34] <Blackmoore> but if it did it would be twice as fast as my dsl.
[17:14:27] <janrinok> got it here, 144 channels, all free and at least 30% of them worth watching.
[17:14:05] <xlefay> brb, dinnah
[17:14:01] <Blackmoore> there actually IS a wireless internet service in my area code... but the signal doesnt get to where I am
[17:14:00] <michealpwalls> sort of, janrinok :/
[17:13:48] <xlefay> Yes! ;)
[17:13:44] <janrinok> michealpwalls: Don't you have freesat over there?
[17:13:35] <michealpwalls> LOL, the future... YOu mean when I graduate and move the fuck out of Canada? (rofl)
[17:13:34] * xlefay notes generally he can exceed the advertised speeds.
[17:13:20] <xlefay> like I said, welcome to the future. ;-)
[17:13:17] <Blackmoore> mm. I think i can get satalite for about the same
[17:12:50] <xlefay> .. those prices are also incl. 21% vat
[17:12:48] <michealpwalls> I pay fucking ~$80/m just for my shitty satellite service... *just* for the sat!~ :(
[17:12:19] <michealpwalls> That would be in the hundreds, seriously :/
[17:12:08] <michealpwalls> That's not fair... wtf man? :(
[17:12:07] <xlefay> yes yes they are
[17:12:05] <Blackmoore> hmph. i have a "choice" betweel dsl or cable. cable starts as part of a $100/mo bundle.
[17:12:04] <xlefay> michealpwalls, welcome to the future
[17:12:03] <michealpwalls> Those are *bundles* ?!
[17:11:55] <NCommander> Then point Thunderbird at the Maildir
[17:11:54] <michealpwalls> Whoa xle....
[17:11:47] <NCommander> Bytram, just use offlineimap
[17:11:46] * Bytram has shot my feet off too many times.
[17:11:39] <xlefay> it don't matter
[17:11:37] <xlefay> michealpwalls, just click a button
[17:11:26] <michealpwalls> modal dialog, onyl word I can recognize is "cookies" LOL
[17:11:24] <Bytram> NCommander: I just asked this of xlefay and was wondering if you had any experience with setting up thunderbird as IMAP to start, and then going to POP3 and pulling everything down, later. Any problems with that?
[17:11:17] <michealpwalls> Ack
[17:11:05] <xlefay> for 15 bucks more, I can haz 200!
[17:10:49] <xlefay> http://www.upc.nl michealpwalls ; the prices & speed is easily spottable
[17:10:39] <NCommander> I miss CenturyLink
[17:10:37] <michealpwalls> LMAO the 1 and 2 are footnotes.. :D
[17:10:34] <NCommander> With native IPv6, and an optional static IP
[17:10:30] <michealpwalls> "$225.99 /month[1] - 350 Mbps[2]"
[17:10:22] <NCommander> *boonies
[17:10:12] <NCommander> I had 40 Mbps/7 Mbps for 40 USD
[17:10:11] <xlefay> I swear I misread that as boobies
[17:10:02] <NCommander> When I lived in booies
[17:09:49] <Bytram> xlefay: whoah! 120Mbps? I have hard disks that are slower than that. :/
[17:09:45] <xlefay> so, michealpwalls for 6 dollars more, I have about 75Mbps more
[17:09:32] <michealpwalls> haha
[17:09:23] <NCommander> michealpwalls, having spent a LOT of time in Canada, frankly, you guys make our ISPs look awesome by comparsion
[17:09:20] <xlefay> err I meant, 55 euros
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[17:09:08] <xlefay> the 45Mbps = at&t
[17:09:04] <michealpwalls> LOL i'm so jealous
[17:08:51] <michealpwalls> :(
[17:08:51] <michealpwalls> Jesus... I hate you!
[17:08:45] <michealpwalls> Whaa 45mpbs? :/
[17:08:44] <xlefay> So, that's about 50 euros.. for 65 euros, I've got 120Mbps ;]
[17:08:33] <michealpwalls> All of a sudden Bell has to spend billiosn to expand their network infrastructure, 'cause if they don't Virgin will be eating their lunch in ~5 years HEHE!
[17:08:19] <xlefay> rofl
[17:08:18] <xlefay> Power - 45Mbps $ 64 95 /mo
[17:07:48] <xlefay> Bytram, well. you can use imap, that way you pull down e-mails and keep them n the server; or use pop3 and only have it locally. Your choice but yeah, you can change it later I think..
[17:07:32] <michealpwalls> Competition, that's the solution IMHO.
[17:07:26] <michealpwalls> Only very recently has our industry been slowly deregulated. Only in the past ~3 years has foreign telecomms been allowed to expand here, and immediatly things started to change... All of a sudden Bell and Rogers "can" offer unlimited internet packages... All of a sudden their packages don't *start* at $45 per month anymore... What a surprise!
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[17:07:08] <Bytram> xlefay: sn addy works great... am now setting up tbird... if I choose IMAP, now, can I later change it to POP3 and pull all my mail down, later?
[17:06:38] <xlefay> I do am surprised at the ridiculous prices you pay
[17:06:36] <Blackmoore> i wish i could resurrect teddy roosevelt.
[17:06:17] <Blackmoore> yeah.
[17:05:56] <michealpwalls> It's a big joke here, and the government's in on it..
[17:05:50] <michealpwalls> The history here is 100% opposite.. Stark contrast to that... The monopolies here were *setup* by the government.. And Protected by the government with broken "regulations" that barred foreign tellie companies from entering the Canadian market... Legistlation that allowed Bell and Rogers to be partners and set prices together.
[17:05:36] <Blackmoore> true; but it does here. and frankly I'd agree with doing the same to the electric power infrastucture too
[17:05:18] <xlefay> michealpwalls, in other words, not a whole lot would change except for improved infra? :)
[17:05:02] <michealpwalls> The arguement about monopolies doesn't apply to my country (Canada)...
[17:04:33] <Blackmoore> and where there IS fiber; guess what - that was funded by state and federal spending (and then given or sold to the monopoly)
[17:04:29] <michealpwalls> It's a joke. I think it should be cut-throat, de-regulated private utility... That way we at least have fair competition to hope for.
[17:04:06] <michealpwalls> Or I should say.. Not "friends", but the ones who lobby the hardest (Read: Dump the most money..) will get the contracts. They will be no-competition contracts the same as what already happens here.
[17:03:53] <xlefay> Downside: it's only so that the NSA can get your data faster.
[17:03:43] <xlefay> You'll get fiber everywhere ;)
[17:03:42] <Blackmoore> I can think of an upside; infrastructure. the monoploies are not getting fiber to the door
[17:03:37] <xlefay> but I can see one upside :P
[17:03:32] <xlefay> meh, the US is really weird\
[17:03:23] <michealpwalls> LOL 'cause that's how it would work here...
[17:03:18] <michealpwalls> e.g: Friends of government people?
[17:03:08] <xlefay> e.g. those with certifications and such
[17:03:02] <michealpwalls> :/
[17:03:02] <xlefay> Well, the gov't would probably higher the same people as tellies do
[17:03:01] <michealpwalls> I can't think of *any* upsides, honestly. IN *theory* we (the "people") would have more control over it.. With our "votes", but in practice that's as naive as thinking I have some kind of say in what happens at Health Canada...
[17:02:27] <michealpwalls> That's true. The privacy isn't as big a concern as the incompetence LOL
[17:02:26] <xlefay> e.g. we can all list the thousands of downsides, but how about upsides?
[17:02:18] <xlefay> but what would be the upsides?
[17:02:08] <michealpwalls> haha
[17:02:01] <xlefay> Yes yes, they also have access to all those nudies you took the other day
[17:01:59] <michealpwalls> The same government that setup this ludacrous telecomm. monopoly. 2 corporations providing the country's Telephone, Cable and Satellite services... We pay absolutely *outrageous* rates and get 3rd-world service (Well not really 3rd world, but you get my drift LOL)
[17:01:24] <xlefay> Let's be honest though, the US gov't already has access to most your data, there are some downsides, but what are the upsides?
[17:00:38] <michealpwalls> Yea.. Plus I sure as *** wouldn't want *my* government providing me with internet... *or* the U.S', for that matter!
[17:00:27] <xlefay> michealpwalls, right, I agree - it should be a feature not a requirement
[17:00:05] <xlefay> It seems US specific and yet the headline just said "Government" .. we're not all in the US guys
[17:00:02] <michealpwalls> :P
[17:00:01] <michealpwalls> s:/overload/overlord
[16:59:32] <xlefay> michealpwalls, I really hated that headline..
[16:59:20] <xlefay> "overload"?
[16:59:13] <michealpwalls> "Why the Government Should Provide Internet Access" Oh man, I'm not sure how that will blow over :O
[16:57:44] <michealpwalls> Rather than our overload *telling* us? :P
[16:57:37] <michealpwalls> True, very true
[16:57:29] <xlefay> It's little things like that, that make it all come together imo
[16:57:20] <xlefay> personally, I liked it; and I don't want to mess with XYZ browsers everywhere I go installing a plugin. Needless to say, I really did enjoy the feature! :p
[16:57:07] <michealpwalls> Yea that would be even better, so it doesn't disrupt the people who like the feature hehe
[16:56:48] <xlefay> michealpwalls, perhaps it's better if this is just enable-able in the usercp, or a simple select box that allows it to be set (that remembers the users preference)
[16:55:38] <michealpwalls> Touche :D
[16:55:35] <michealpwalls> hahaha Blackmoore
[16:55:28] <michealpwalls> Note to Soylent team: Please don't implement the retarded autorefresh "feature" of slashdot.org. Pet peeve! Most browsers can be configured to do this automatically (if you want it to happen) and the ones that don't, well stop using shitty browsers :P
[16:55:24] <Blackmoore> of course it will be usb 2.0 and horibly out of date
[16:55:01] <Blackmoore> :) oh a couple more years and we should be able to install that port.
[16:53:19] <michealpwalls> That's so me :D
[16:53:16] <michealpwalls> LMAO found it
[16:53:14] <michealpwalls> http://xkcd.com
[16:52:16] <Bytram> Landon: IIRC, a "fan" is someone who has "friend"ed you.
[16:52:10] <michealpwalls> True, but honestly if I can just get some decent drivers/firmware I'm good to go. There's such a perfect XKCD comic about me... LOL lemme find it!
[16:51:16] <Blackmoore> I'd like one too. but I'd be happier if i didnt have to do the OS install.
[16:42:06] <michealpwalls> Still on the fense, though
[16:42:02] <michealpwalls> Jah, I want a good open tablet of sorts
[16:40:16] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Ask Soylent - Best Hardware for Debian Tablet? - http://sylnt.us - liberating-hardware-from-the-evil-empires
[16:38:01] <kobach> no
[16:36:18] <michealpwalls> Hrmm
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[16:26:05] <naubol> oh, interesting!
[16:21:52] <Blackmoore> but i can understand why we dont have that
[16:21:38] <Blackmoore> PM would really be nice. not everyone wants to give out a real email address
[16:20:48] <Landon> so if I friend you, but you do not reciprocate (dangit), then I am your fan
[16:20:39] <Landon> naubol: iirc you're a fan if it's a one way friendship
[16:19:26] <xlefay> 1) no clue; 2) no, but I believe it's on the roadmap (don't quote me on it though).
[16:18:26] <naubol> and is there no way to privately message?
[16:18:21] <naubol> I see how you friend someone, how to you fan them?
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[16:16:57] <Blackmoore> eh. i think i slept. not really sure now
[16:14:08] <michealpwalls> Late night LOL
[16:14:06] <michealpwalls> (yawn)
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[16:00:45] <Blackmoore> so i guess it wanted a really close shave?
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[15:58:09] <xlefay> /: 105549635584 bytes were trimmed ... probably should've trimmed it earlier
[15:56:54] <xlefay> d33tah, you know, generally in these cases, you go away for a bit and you get back to make them backups ... and it's too late!
[15:56:16] <Blackmoore> um oops
[15:56:10] <Blackmoore> *crash*
[15:56:08] <d33tah> xlefay: thanks and back up! :D
[15:55:59] <xlefay> I'm off to take a shower, be back soon. Don't break anything kids!
[15:55:58] <Blackmoore> I was able to move to a different article and mod in that without error
[15:55:39] <xlefay> d33tah, take care ;)
[15:55:33] <Blackmoore> indeed he does!
[15:55:24] <d33tah> afk
[15:54:45] <xlefay> Blackmoore, check the github link, it seems even though NC was spawned into the background he still works! :)
[15:54:17] <d33tah> back up. :"P
[15:54:10] <xlefay> configs, sometimes
[15:54:03] <xlefay> always externally hosted already anyway
[15:53:52] <d33tah> configs?
[15:53:51] <d33tah> code?
[15:53:44] <xlefay> The only thing I've backed up so far is my SSH key, it's all I ever seem to need
[15:53:30] <d33tah> if your system sends a message about SMART reporting disk as having badsectors, it's too late
[15:53:15] <d33tah> d;
[15:53:14] <d33tah> then back up twice as often.
[15:53:09] <d33tah> ah, OCZ
[15:53:04] * xlefay had expected it to have blown up already, since it's an OCZ
[15:52:57] <d33tah> btw, one of my hdds recently died and one thing i learned is - do back up regularily.
[15:52:49] <xlefay> Of course, but.. I'm just surprised :P
[15:52:41] <d33tah> i see.
[15:52:31] <xlefay> I don't believe if you post as anon and it gets modded it'll affect your karma, but again, not sure
[15:52:07] <d33tah> backup nonetheless.
[15:51:52] <xlefay> My ssd 1 year, 8 months and 14 days | according to SMART.. I'm impressed it's still alive.
[15:51:51] <d33tah> do "anonymous troller" posts count to karma?
[15:51:39] <d33tah> btw
[15:51:31] <d33tah> will do. :D
[15:51:14] <xlefay> As always, tias!
[15:51:02] <xlefay> d33tah, no clue but feel free to try it :)
[15:50:38] <d33tah> be a troll*
[15:50:33] <d33tah> xlefay: do you know if the karma is actually counted above the cap? can i be troll now and will i lose any visible karma? :D
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[15:49:52] <Blackmoore> i think it did apply the point
[15:48:51] <Blackmoore> this was on the 4th mod point i was giving out on the Supreme Court Strikes Down Limits On Donations
[15:48:47] <xlefay> err.. I didn't mean to start you in the background buddy, I meant ^
[15:48:36] <xlefay> // cc: NCommander &
[15:47:33] <xlefay> https://github.com
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[15:46:50] <Blackmoore> Internal SAN check blew up checking moderation rights. Please let the powers that be know how and where you recieved this error Internal SAN check blew up checking moderation rights. Please let the powers that be know how and where you recieved this error Internal SAN check blew up checking moderation rights. Please let the powers that be know how and where you recieved this error
[15:46:33] <Blackmoore> I just got an error when moderating
[15:46:09] <Blackmoore> I'm pretty sure i'm a poorly written AI. so i feel for them.
[15:45:37] <xlefay> We suspect the editors are actually robots but besides that, not much, you?
[15:44:59] <Blackmoore> sup?
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[15:42:56] <SlimShady> karma - slimshady: -1
[15:42:56] <d33tah> SlimShady--
[15:42:34] <xlefay> bender = SlimShady = whatever other nicks it has.
[15:42:29] <d33tah> much better.
[15:42:27] <SlimShady> karma - bender: -13
[15:42:26] <d33tah> bender--
[15:42:25] <d33tah> ah.
[15:42:23] <xlefay> Bender
[15:42:20] <d33tah> i think it was balder?
[15:42:08] <xlefay> no, no reset
[15:42:08] <d33tah> the bot that was there in the beginning.
[15:42:05] <SlimShady> karma of poutine is -335
[15:42:05] <xlefay> !karma poutine
[15:42:01] <xlefay> 'balder'?
[15:41:54] <SlimShady> karma - c: 16
[15:41:54] <d33tah> c++
[15:41:51] <d33tah> whoa, karma reset?
[15:41:43] <SlimShady> karma - balder: -1
[15:41:43] <d33tah> balder--
[15:41:37] <d33tah> i see.
[15:40:59] <xlefay> Yes, it appears that it still is, I don't know if there are plans to up it though.
[15:40:41] <xlefay> I suspect this was originally done to force people to go to the website and get the hitcounter to increase.. but seems like an outdated practice which was stupid to begin with
[15:40:15] <d33tah> btw, karma is still capped at 50?
[15:40:09] <d33tah> no problem. will pait patiently. keep up the good work ;)
[15:39:54] <xlefay> Not that I'm aware of, sorry
[15:39:41] <d33tah> i see, so there's no solution for now?
[15:39:20] <xlefay> because index.rss doesn't current show new summaries, it's something on the feature request list
[15:39:10] <d33tah> firefox doesn't either
[15:39:00] <d33tah> why doesn't akregator show me the news summaries on http://soylentnews.org ?
[15:38:35] <d33tah> folks
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[15:31:24] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - The Magic Number to Save Mankind - http://sylnt.us - But-ah-with-the-proper-breeding-techniques...
[15:22:42] * xlefay thinks it's time for a new poll
[15:19:50] <xlefay> https://soylentnews.org ;')
[15:19:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> And I just submitted *another* one.
[15:18:25] <SlimShady> karma - andytheabsurd: 1
[15:18:25] <xlefay> AndyTheAbsurd++ in any case, it's a good submission!
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[15:12:55] <xlefay> hmm.. I see
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[15:10:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> not if their programmers were sufficiently clever :(
[15:09:29] <xlefay> AndyTheAbsurd, that's what I was worried about! but what alternative do we have? Can we trick them somehow?
[15:09:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> xlefay: you can't do it that way; the robot you're speaking to might be programmed to lie about whether or not it's a robot.
[15:08:23] <janrinok> might be
[15:08:20] <xlefay> it's computing, obviously..
[15:08:05] <xlefay> janrinok, are you a robot?
[15:08:01] <xlefay> hmm.. good point, perhaps they'll be truthful if we ask them.
[15:07:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> What makes you think that the editors aren't robots?
[15:06:07] <xlefay> wait, are you telling me, our editors are actually doing their work? And here I thought it was the robots!
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[15:04:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> yay my article from yesterday got posted!
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[14:30:40] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Patterns in Global Migrant Flows - http://sylnt.us - are-we-global-citizens-yet?
[14:18:11] <Subsentient> go to #derp
[14:18:09] <Subsentient> muted
[14:18:07] <Subsentient> damn
[14:18:03] <Subsentient> $commands
[14:18:01] <Subsentient> but yeah she does
[14:17:58] <Subsentient> crutchy: I mean for the console
[14:17:56] <SedBot> <crutchy> aqu4 does colors too eh?
[14:17:56] <crutchy> s/to/too/
[14:17:40] <crutchy> aqu4 does colors to eh?
[14:16:42] <Subsentient> Just fixed the color support
[14:16:38] <Subsentient> crutchy: Yep, Windows support is completed!
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[14:11:07] <Konomi> nn MrBluze ~
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[13:58:01] <MrBluze> night crutchy
[13:56:30] <crutchy> night mrbluze
[13:55:00] <MrBluze> gnite all
[13:54:59] <MrBluze> im off to bed
[13:42:01] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - First Images of New Reversible USB Connector - http://sylnt.us - new-better-than-old
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[13:24:27] <SlimShady> karma - caffeine: 4
[13:24:27] <Konomi> caffeine++
[13:20:58] <xlefay> ha :P
[13:19:48] <crutchy> but it prevents timed karma spamming
[13:19:35] <crutchy> no :-(
[13:19:29] <xlefay> It doesn't dance!
[13:19:25] <xlefay> I only have one complaint
[13:19:13] <crutchy> it's fun
[13:19:04] <xlefay> I saw :P
[13:18:59] <crutchy> i have a rainbow karma bot :-)
[13:18:40] <crutchy> yeah i noticed :-P
[13:18:20] <xlefay> only slept 6 hours or so meh
[13:17:44] <crutchy> wow you sleep at weird times lol
[13:17:32] <crutchy> evening
[13:17:25] <xlefay> 10 evening or morning?
[13:17:18] <crutchy> lol
[13:17:13] <xlefay> quarter past 1300 here
[13:17:12] <crutchy> :-P
[13:16:56] <crutchy> it's about quarter past 10 pm here
[13:16:33] <xlefay> kinda, you?
[13:14:32] <SlimShady> karma of coffee is 9
[13:14:32] <crutchy> !karma coffee
[13:14:08] <crutchy> sleep well?
[13:13:54] <crutchy> hi xlefay
[13:13:35] <xlefay> mornin'
[13:11:38] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Prof Baffled by Cryptograms Found in Library Books - http://sylnt.us - Don't-tell-Dan-Brown
[13:10:05] <crutchy> i guess you could set up your own rtti table but if you going to that much trouble just to get polymorphic you may as well just use c++
[13:09:15] <Subsentient> You can kinda emulate it with function pointers in structures, but not really OOP
[13:08:55] <crutchy> nah
[13:08:49] <Subsentient> crutchy: C is not OOP ofc
[13:08:13] <crutchy> and there's the polymorphic bs of oop
[13:07:52] <crutchy> you can use pointer types
[13:07:27] <crutchy> can do that in delphi, but not with standard types
[13:07:25] <Subsentient> Well, doesn't everyone?
[13:07:11] <crutchy> lol
[13:07:08] * Subsentient likes to do funky pointer stuff
[13:07:06] <crutchy> c is good for you then
[13:06:46] * Subsentient likes weak typing
[13:06:46] <crutchy> pros probably don't like wordy
[13:06:32] <crutchy> i like the wordiness of pascal (not as symbolic) and i like strict type
[13:06:16] <Subsentient> Although I don't currently remember them XD
[13:06:10] <Subsentient> some things in pascal irk me there
[13:06:01] <Subsentient> I like C because it's logical. Everything is clearly separated, well thought out, very smooth.
[13:05:46] <Subsentient> crutchy: I see.
[13:05:34] <crutchy> as much as c is a cool language, i'm more fluent in object pascal, so i tend to gravitate towards delphi for my compiled stuff
[13:05:19] <Subsentient> crutchy: K&R's 'The C Programming Language, Second Edition' is as good as it comes IMHO
[13:04:43] <crutchy> i have "A Book on C" as well (hardcopy)
[13:04:37] <Subsentient> What you'll learn from that book is actually C89
[13:04:31] <crutchy> yeah i got that
[13:04:27] <crutchy> thanks for that
[13:04:24] <Subsentient> crutchy: I recommend you use that.
[13:04:17] <crutchy> yeah
[13:04:08] <Subsentient> crutchy: Didn't I give you a link to my archive once?
[13:03:55] <crutchy> i know a little c, but not fluent
[13:03:49] <Subsentient> but that's a small price to pay for the nimbleness and predictability that is C89, not to mention portability
[13:03:31] <crutchy> i don't know, but :-P
[13:03:19] <Subsentient> You know, decls must be at the top of a block, etc
[13:03:05] <Subsentient> Released in 1989
[13:03:04] <crutchy> ahh
[13:02:59] <Subsentient> crutchy: It's what's generally referred to as ANSI C
[13:02:47] <crutchy> sounds oldskool
[13:02:39] <crutchy> hmm
[13:02:35] * Subsentient likes C89
[13:02:32] <crutchy> delphi handles all the winsock bs for me :-)
[13:02:23] <Subsentient> C89 , to be exact
[13:02:22] <crutchy> mkay
[13:02:19] <Subsentient> it's C.
[13:02:18] <Subsentient> crutchy: no
[13:02:15] <Subsentient> winsock is a turd but you know
[13:02:09] <crutchy> ?
[13:02:07] <crutchy> is it c++
[13:01:53] <Subsentient> crutchy: Yeah, runs fine
[13:01:50] <Subsentient> crutchy: adding a config file generator to her now.
[13:01:49] <crutchy> compiled?
[13:01:41] <crutchy> :-P
[13:01:36] <Subsentient> I was bored.
[13:01:34] <Subsentient> crutchy: Why not?
[13:01:22] <crutchy> :-O
[13:00:36] <Subsentient> crutchy: I ported aqu4 to windows!
[12:52:19] <crutchy> woohoo karma ban seems to work
[12:51:23] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - EU Approves Net Neutrality Legislation - http://sylnt.us - Bravo!
[12:49:36] <Popeidol> it's well written, very entertaining, and apparently gets things done
[12:48:53] <Popeidol> linus has the best kind of nerd rage
[12:41:39] <Konomi> hi also
[12:41:38] <MrBluze> usually
[12:41:35] <MrBluze> phoronix rox
[12:41:25] <MrBluze> hi konomi
[12:41:01] <Konomi> hey
[12:40:56] <crutchy> hi konomi
[12:40:40] <Konomi> is it bad I like nerd rage?
[12:40:35] <Konomi> http://www.phoronix.com
[12:39:47] <Popeidol> or string theory
[12:39:32] <Popeidol> at least all those who do anything involving 'quantum'
[12:39:15] <Popeidol> I think most physicists are
[12:39:04] <crutchy> i'm just a troll :-P
[12:38:58] <crutchy> lol i'm not
[12:38:39] <Popeidol> I didn't realise crutchy was a physicist
[12:37:33] <MrBluze> entropy
[12:37:31] <MrBluze> entroy
[12:36:29] <crutchy> did that sound like i had a clue what i was talking about?
[12:35:53] <crutchy> humans are made up of atoms, and atoms always tend towards their lowest energy state
[12:35:43] <Popeidol> arch is probably the best plan B
[12:35:36] <crutchy> i prefer lazy
[12:35:14] <MrBluze> yeah then that.. but archlinux is less work
[12:35:03] <Popeidol> yes indeed
[12:34:51] <MrBluze> is it x86?
[12:34:44] <MrBluze> gentoo etc
[12:34:40] <Popeidol> I was also trying to get away with being lazy
[12:34:33] <Popeidol> MrBluze: that would be the right way to do it, I agree
[12:34:28] <MrBluze> and start from close to scratch
[12:34:19] <MrBluze> but sounds like best approach is a compilable distro
[12:33:14] <Popeidol> yeah, it lets you choose whether to install desktop or not
[12:33:02] <crutchy> but you can disable that in installer menu i think
[12:32:48] <crutchy> a2 has 512 mb ram so i just put the whole smash on, gnome and all
[12:32:34] <crutchy> works pretty well
[12:32:21] <crutchy> just gets the iso off the sd
[12:32:06] <crutchy> booted pxe and loaded install image off an sd card plugged in via usb card reader (the installer is loaded off the boot server)
[12:31:26] <crutchy> no usb boot
[12:31:20] <crutchy> that's how i installed on my toshiba tecra a2 when the optical failed
[12:30:56] <Popeidol> hmmm
[12:30:44] <crutchy> need to setup a boot server first
[12:30:13] <crutchy> you can also install debian using a pxe setup
[12:29:31] <Popeidol> p1 laptop
[12:29:29] <MrBluze> u can uninstall those
[12:29:23] <crutchy> is it for a nas or something?
[12:29:07] <Popeidol> but given I'm going to be running thisn sans window managers it wouldn't make much of a difference
[12:28:37] <Popeidol> MrBluze: I'm a fan of crunchbang, using it right now
[12:28:18] <MrBluze> crunchbang?
[12:27:52] <Popeidol> this desktop is actually running off an 8gb thumbdrive
[12:27:41] <Popeidol> yeah, debian doesn't give a damn
[12:27:37] * crutchy kicks sedbot
[12:27:26] <SedBot> <crutchy> debian seems to be pretty forgiving when changing a system hdd from one machine to another
[12:27:26] <crutchy> s/hdd/system hdd/
[12:27:15] <MrBluze> i got puppy running on a 64mb laptop
[12:27:09] <Popeidol> if it works it'll save me a lot of time and effort
[12:27:05] <crutchy> debian seems to be pretty forgiving when changing a hdd from one machine to another
[12:27:00] <Popeidol> crutchy: that's exactly my plan of attack
[12:26:25] <Popeidol> I can always settle for something like slitaz if needed, but I think I might almost manage to scrape in with debian
[12:26:21] <crutchy> i would still give decent swap though
[12:26:20] <MrBluze> pebble, picodebian
[12:26:14] <crutchy> if you install it first on decent machine, get rid of all the cruft, then boot it on your smallish thing it might work
[12:26:04] <Popeidol> crutchy: that's my plan, since there is no usb or cdrom on the machine it's going on
[12:25:31] <MrBluze> lemme google for a sec
[12:25:28] <crutchy> as long as architecture is similar
[12:25:17] <crutchy> you can also set up debian on a decent machine and then change hdd into your smallish one
[12:25:05] <MrBluze> though i never tried doing it beyond getting it to 128mb
[12:24:42] <MrBluze> debian is a bit big.. but if u compile your own everything it can be shrunken just like any other
[12:24:23] <MrBluze> then kill the swap once u have finished setting it up
[12:24:15] <MrBluze> u can make a large swap, compile drivers
[12:24:06] <MrBluze> if u have the patience
[12:22:42] <crutchy> would be slower
[12:22:30] <crutchy> you could make up for small ram with big swap
[12:22:29] <Popeidol> it'll be running off a 2 or 4gb microsd
[12:22:19] <crutchy> do you have decent hdd?
[12:22:10] <MrBluze> .. ?
[12:22:06] <MrBluze> and shift the drivers across
[12:22:01] <MrBluze> and make a tiny linux with the same parameters and versions etc
[12:21:50] <MrBluze> then compile your required drivers
[12:21:44] <MrBluze> +x
[12:21:43] <MrBluze> u make a big linu
[12:21:39] <MrBluze> well
[12:21:30] <crutchy> i guess you can only fit what you can fit
[12:21:23] <Popeidol> no need to get x running or anything
[12:21:21] <MrBluze> u could take something like arch
[12:21:12] <crutchy> i bet the apollo astronauts wanted a microwave too :-P
[12:20:52] <Popeidol> specifically a pcmcia wireless card
[12:20:45] <Popeidol> it is, but I also want support for stuff that didn't have great support in dsl
[12:20:34] <crutchy> beat me to it :-P
[12:20:24] <crutchy> lol i was about to fire that off
[12:20:23] <MrBluze> debian is big
[12:20:18] <Popeidol> I think I'll definitely be pushing it
[12:20:16] <MrBluze> hmm.. dsl
[12:20:09] <crutchy> for my rainbow karma bot :-D
[12:20:05] <Popeidol> what are the chances of getting a bare bones debian stall running with about 40mb ram?
[12:19:56] <crutchy> atm i'm polishing off a ban algo to prevent karma gaming
[12:19:46] <Popeidol> you people seem to know computers
[12:19:30] <crutchy> :-P
[12:19:26] <crutchy> working on a bot
[12:19:15] <MrBluze> wachu been upto?
[12:19:06] <MrBluze> ;)
[12:19:04] <MrBluze> i could use some downtime
[12:18:56] <crutchy> welcome to the downtime lounge :-)
[12:18:49] <crutchy> i guess busy is better than bored, but it's nice to have some downtime
[12:18:23] <MrBluze> always busy
[12:18:20] <MrBluze> not bad
[12:18:16] <crutchy> how bout yourself?
[12:18:10] <crutchy> i'm good
[12:18:05] <MrBluze> how u going?
[12:18:03] <MrBluze> hey crutchy
[12:17:55] <crutchy> hi mrbluze
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[12:00:45] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - African Mobile Credit Transfer Technology Coming to Europe - http://sylnt.us - who-needs-cash
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[11:19:19] <crutchy> cheers
[11:19:06] <arti> wise move, going to read a little bit /waves
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[11:18:48] <arti> heh
[11:18:43] <crutchy> i don't wanna get stuck in there :-P
[11:18:08] * crutchy closes browser window and backs away
[11:17:31] <crutchy> holy carp
[11:17:16] <arti> http://daneden.github.io
[11:17:05] <crutchy> lol
[11:16:56] <arti> have it fade in when you scroll over to it
[11:16:49] <arti> add some animate.css to it
[11:16:27] <crutchy> not overly useful
[11:16:12] <crutchy> thanks mate. it was a bit of fun
[11:15:58] <arti> yes, kudos on the flowchart
[11:15:39] <crutchy> cya arti
[11:15:26] * arti is calling it a night, catch ya on the flip side
[11:04:43] <arti> sehr salzig
[11:04:33] <crutchy> bacon++:
[11:03:40] <crutchy> :-D
[11:03:16] * arti is going to core dump
[11:02:54] <crutchy> lmao!
[11:02:48] <crutchy> <xlefay> ok I'm going to emulate Windows and crash, night night'
[11:02:45] <crutchy> lol
[11:00:33] <arti> looks legit
[11:00:29] <arti> need to contact the dude for the pw
[11:00:21] <arti> http://contagiodump.blogspot.com has an archive with a file in it
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[10:57:27] <arti> hey swiss
[10:57:16] <crutchy> popeidol: yeah i think i remember seeing that check box
[10:56:04] <crutchy> but it must've cost the company a few manhours :-P
[10:55:51] <crutchy> i didn't bother trying to figure it out
[10:55:50] <Popeidol> http://www.msoutlook.info
[10:55:44] <crutchy> had a bunch of IT nerds standing around at one point going through all the settings
[10:55:15] <Popeidol> but I'm running 2007 and cannot verify
[10:55:02] <Popeidol> apparently it's under the tracking options
[10:55:00] <crutchy> best solution is prolly to avoid outlook
[10:54:32] <crutchy> dunno can't remember exactly, but someone brought up email spam thought i'd chuck it out there
[10:53:42] <crutchy> there was a setting that looked like it should
[10:53:28] <Popeidol> I definitely remember a setting disabling that
[10:53:13] <crutchy> i think it was tent, but still popped up a dialog
[10:52:59] <swiss> i have no clear cut malwaye sample for a true RTF 0 day attack.
[10:52:57] <crutchy> i don't know what it uses. i was getting these weird appointments showing up and they came from spam
[10:52:57] <Popeidol> crutchy: does it actually book or tenatively book the appointment?
[10:52:48] <arti> crutchy: auto calendar
[10:52:31] <swiss> crutchy: vuln only affects you if you use word as the viewer
[10:52:31] <crutchy> what features arti?
[10:52:16] <crutchy> to stop outlook from opening message
[10:52:14] <swiss> also, if anyone has a malware sample for a successful 0 day rtf, lmk
[10:52:09] <crutchy> the only way i could stop it is to turn off the preview pane in inbox
[10:51:50] <crutchy> nah
[10:51:46] <crutchy> nah opens a page that tells you about it
[10:51:44] <swiss> crutchy: there's a way to auto-deny them in the options
[10:51:30] <arti> btw can you click on the blue doc_links to view teh codez?
[10:51:20] <arti> why do you hate features crutchy
[10:51:07] <crutchy> apparently there's no way (in outlook 2010 anyway) of disabling that ability
[10:50:47] <crutchy> have you ever had an email come into outlook and automatically set an appointment?
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[10:50:22] <swiss> http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com
[10:50:09] <swiss> quite a few more
[10:50:05] <crutchy> i end up changing that chart of an expandable tree view cos the chart was a bit too big. couldn't print it out and had to scroll for miles to get around
[10:50:03] <swiss> with the new rtf 0 day
[10:50:01] <arti> "well that was weird, anyway back to cats.com"
[10:50:01] <arti> "oh sweet, ups_receipt.exe"
[10:49:40] <arti> how many people run .exe from email
[10:49:20] <swiss> (all i can officailly say)
[10:49:17] <swiss> it's super dangerous, and being distributed pretty widely. Don't assume that a company email is safe just because you recognize the source domain
[10:48:53] * arti sends swiss shiny.exe
[10:48:36] <swiss> be careful of it
[10:48:32] * arti read about that
[10:48:07] <swiss> http://www.spamfighter.com
[10:47:23] <crutchy> i like gd, but i guess there are some things where css can do some cool stuff
[10:47:19] <arti> bleh i need to document application flow
[10:46:17] <arti> that's pretty cool, no worries
[10:45:57] <crutchy> i had to trim out all the surrounding stuff cos it's a work thing...
[10:45:08] <crutchy> it's just a bunch of divs
[10:44:53] <crutchy> that's all driven by css
[10:44:28] <crutchy> looks a bit dodgy as a jpg screen cap, but http://postimg.org
[10:43:24] <MrBluze> interesting
[10:42:19] <arti> http://postimage.org
[10:41:50] <crutchy> one where i don't have to signup and all that bs
[10:41:45] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Possible Release of Israeli Spy Spurs Uproar - http://sylnt.us - back-to-spy-school
[10:41:27] <arti> crutchy photobucket? imgur?
[10:41:13] <crutchy> is there a pastebin for images?
[10:41:11] <arti> thanks for letting us know :)
[10:40:25] <SoyCow4537> when moderating, got "Internal SAN check blew up checking moderation rights". This is already mentioned in bug #125. Do I need to report this? Unless advised otherwise, I'll assume this issue is well known already and not requiring a "me too".
[10:39:07] <arti> http://bartaz.github.io
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[10:37:03] <arti> you give demos frequently?
[10:36:20] <crutchy> every time i look at it i get a geekgasm
[10:36:09] <arti> as long as the key parts work for the demo that's fine
[10:36:06] <crutchy> haven't really used it for that though
[10:35:36] <crutchy> lines going to unexpected calls etc
[10:35:19] <crutchy> if i fuck up
[10:35:16] <crutchy> and it might even show some weirdness
[10:34:38] <arti> hahaha
[10:34:06] <crutchy> if i code it once i never have to worry about it again :-P
[10:33:55] <crutchy> i'm just lazy
[10:33:36] <arti> ah cool, i use visio for that. non interactive
[10:33:26] <crutchy> oh fuck
[10:33:21] <SedBot> <crutchy> lookked fucking awesome
[10:33:21] <crutchy> s/loc/look/
[10:33:09] <crutchy> locked fucking awesome
[10:32:58] <crutchy> it was a function call flowchart
[10:32:48] <crutchy> the flowchart i used it for was huge
[10:32:27] <arti> well the important thing is it works
[10:32:09] <crutchy> draws a diagonal line with css
[10:32:01] <arti> decoupling!
[10:31:48] <crutchy> dynamically generated
[10:31:40] <crutchy> :-P
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[10:31:40] <arti> inline styles, hiss
[10:31:34] <crutchy> <div style=\"padding: 0px; margin: 0px; height: 1px; background-color: black; line-height: 1px; position: absolute; left: ".$cx."px; top: ".$cy."px; width: ".$L."px; -moz-transform: rotate(".$angle."deg); -webkit-transform: rotate(".$angle."deg); -o-transform: rotate(".$angle."deg); -ms-transform: rotate(".$angle."deg); transform: rotate(".$angle."deg);\"></div>
[10:31:32] <crutchy> line markup looked like this:
[10:31:22] <arti> i totally want to do some delphi record stuff
[10:30:58] <arti> pretty crazy doing applications that way
[10:30:49] <arti> for some fun you might want to look into qml
[10:30:27] <crutchy> i did a flow chart with css once
[10:30:04] <arti> i like to use as much css as possible, images are meh
[10:29:43] * arti started with foundation then migrated to bs for the nifty widgets
[10:29:38] <crutchy> or i prefer imagecopyresampled
[10:29:30] <arti> class, yay bootstrap
[10:29:26] * arti appends img-responsive
[10:29:16] <crutchy> you can draw them large as you like and then use css to reduce
[10:29:07] * arti prefers imagemagick
[10:28:57] <crutchy> gd images look pretty cool
[10:28:50] * arti didn't mean to come off like aj erk
[10:28:39] <crutchy> sorry yeah i know i meant the images in the chart on your websity thing :-P
[10:28:32] <arti> one method is using "slivers" and then repeating them
[10:28:18] <arti> i didn't design that beast
[10:28:05] <crutchy> the images in your chart are raster, no?
[10:28:02] <arti> scope out some images on an ipad for example
[10:27:54] <arti> if you scale it up, it gets ugly
[10:27:42] <crutchy> what's wrong with raster
[10:27:40] <arti> svg support is still meh
[10:27:27] <arti> png is still raster
[10:27:25] <crutchy> using ttf
[10:27:17] <arti> ENHANCE. ENHANCE.
[10:27:16] <crutchy> can do it as png
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[10:26:57] <arti> yeah, but raster graphics suck
[10:26:41] <crutchy> and no css
[10:26:27] <crutchy> with gd, each chart comes down the tubes as a single gif
[10:26:03] <arti> it's all about tiling yo
[10:25:58] <arti> ewww
[10:25:51] <crutchy> i kinda just assumed something like gd
[10:25:23] <crutchy> holy crap that must be a huge crapload of css
[10:25:13] <crutchy> don't think i want to
[10:24:47] <arti> you should see the templates
[10:24:32] <arti> yeah, total programmer style
[10:24:22] <crutchy> wtf
[10:24:17] <crutchy> all those bar chart segments are individual images!
[10:23:30] <arti> i should have that commit to git
[10:22:48] <crutchy> !updatestats
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[10:10:55] <arti> WAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAA
[10:10:37] <crutchy> waaaaaaaaazzzaaaaaaaaaaaaaap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:10:23] <arti> bleh building shopping carts is work
[10:09:51] * arti o.o
[10:09:14] <crutchy> !updatestats
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[09:00:29] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Document Liberation Project looking for developers - http://sylnt.us - hieroglyphics-was-too-easy
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[07:17:47] <arti> much better
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[06:48:22] * Subsentient snarls
[06:48:18] <Subsentient> $commands
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[06:41:47] <kobach> lol
[06:40:43] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Why the Government Should Provide Internet Access - http://sylnt.us - cue-the-America-is-too-big-apologists
[06:39:22] <kobach> sup #Soylent
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[06:37:29] <kobach> i can now see everything
[06:37:18] <kobach> ahh i forgot to apply my snomasks
[06:36:50] <arti> http://www.businessweek.com
[06:36:46] <crutchy> they're too much a delicacy
[06:36:41] <crutchy> nah wouldn't be testacles
[06:36:23] <arti> "If those new fine leather golf gloves that you just bought were made in China, the reason why they're so soft and supple is that they're made from the testicles of stolen dogs"
[06:35:30] <kobach> lol
[06:34:47] <crutchy> xlefay had to help me with the group thing :-P
[06:34:33] <kobach> like "wtf?"
[06:34:27] <kobach> i looked up and i noticed bacon and coffee(under acct bacon) identified
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[06:34:06] <crutchy> just gotta implement the colors
[06:33:57] <crutchy> rainbow karma
[06:33:50] <crutchy> sorta kinda works-ish
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[06:33:43] <prospectacle> Yours truly, prospectacle
[06:33:42] <Subsentient> brb
[06:33:36] <crutchy> yeah
[06:33:26] <kobach> still testing?
[06:33:20] <prospectacle> Dear honourable website SN: The dates on this page: http://logs.sylnt.us and others like it, should be in the reverse order, so you don't need to scroll to see today.
[06:33:18] <kobach> why isnt this bot in ##
[06:33:05] <kobach> crutchy
[06:32:48] <kobach> an aussie
[06:32:30] <kobach> and coffee... someone is fucking with me
[06:32:24] <kobach> who the fuck is bacon...
[06:31:55] <kobach> WAAAAAAAAAZUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP!!!!!!!!!!!11
[06:31:54] <arti> "i have a box of 10, we can do it on consignment"
[06:31:34] <kobach> XD
[06:31:29] <kobach> loooooooooooool
[06:31:27] <arti> "yeah it's... uh... special"
[06:31:21] <arti> trolling candle stores?
[06:30:54] <kobach> lol
[06:30:53] <kobach> there, fuck you
[06:30:46] * kobach hands #soylent a piss candle
[06:30:36] <kobach> how about that
[06:30:34] <kobach> piss oil
[06:28:56] <kobach> rofl @ pig oil
[06:28:52] <MrBluze> miau
[06:28:48] <MrBluze> im having fun ;)
[06:28:47] <arti> miau!
[06:28:45] <MrBluze> ciao
[06:28:42] <kobach> have fun
[06:28:41] <crutchy> cya mrbluze
[06:28:31] * arti salutes
[06:28:28] <MrBluze> see uze all laytah
[06:28:28] <arti> keep sorting those cat pictures bro
[06:28:20] <MrBluze> back to ol' work-o
[06:28:17] <MrBluze> wellp.. im off again
[06:27:40] <MrBluze> pig oil
[06:27:38] <MrBluze> nothing else is right
[06:27:34] <MrBluze> u have to use big oil
[06:27:18] <crutchy> aromatherapy = funny sounding farts
[06:27:00] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[06:26:37] <arti> oh there's an awesome commercial with aroma therapy, unos
[06:26:27] <kobach> i suppose you could put the bacon grease into a candle
[06:26:16] <kobach> LOL
[06:26:11] <MrBluze> real aromatherapy
[06:26:06] * MrBluze puts some crackling into the incense burner
[06:25:53] <SlimShady> karma - jowl: 4
[06:25:53] <kobach> jowl++
[06:25:47] <SlimShady> karma - pigbellystrips: 1
[06:25:47] <stderr> PigBellyStrips++
[06:25:44] <kobach> oh my
[06:25:37] <MrBluze> and shove a few pieces of crackling up your nose
[06:25:37] <kobach> in my mouth yes
[06:25:35] <stderr> http://www.huffingtonpost.com Read headline, then scroll down to number 9...
[06:25:33] <kobach> not on your face
[06:25:27] <MrBluze> buttered bacon..
[06:25:24] <kobach> thats even worse
[06:25:19] <arti> not when you butter it
[06:25:13] <kobach> thats gross
[06:25:09] <kobach> no
[06:25:05] <arti> bacon is not a pillow
[06:25:03] <MrBluze> and everything will be ok
[06:25:02] <kobach> rofl
[06:24:58] <MrBluze> just wear a face mask stuffed with bacon rashers
[06:24:44] * kobach hands crutchy some jowl
[06:24:42] <arti> "sup guys, i just ran around so now i'm sweaty, let's take a ride in the lift"
[06:24:35] <crutchy> and every time i do i fear that i've somehow been infected by bacon
[06:24:17] <crutchy> i can taste kobach's stink
[06:24:15] * arti waits for the pizza to heat
[06:24:04] <crutchy> i can't stand it any longer either
[06:23:52] <arti> it's the smell /mr smith
[06:23:40] <arti> no, entirely doods and sweaty socks
[06:23:30] <crutchy> or you just flop it out and think of hot borg chicks
[06:23:29] <MrBluze> how did u know, arti?
[06:23:27] <kobach> oh my
[06:23:23] <arti> one of my friends does that... *looks around*
[06:23:21] <kobach> oh my
[06:23:10] <arti> in reality, it's yours and you have the last laugh? or something
[06:23:08] <kobach> oh my
[06:23:02] <arti> crutchy, that's why you surprise them, you accidently text them a dong picture and joke about the size
[06:22:54] <kobach> lol
[06:22:44] <crutchy> i gets really weird if the guys around you start looking though
[06:22:40] <kobach> Subsentient: this explains a lot of my thoughts
[06:22:21] <crutchy> lol @ arti :-P
[06:22:00] <crutchy> finally i have an excuse :-P
[06:21:57] <kobach> lol
[06:21:47] <SlimShady> karma - subsentient: 1
[06:21:47] <crutchy> subsentient++
[06:21:42] <SlimShady> Added quote 94
[06:21:42] <kobach> !grab arti
[06:21:41] <arti> subsentient begins the meetings with: "i have a huge boner"
[06:21:38] <kobach> arti: oh my
[06:21:38] <Subsentient> kobach: Sanity is for the unimaginative
[06:21:25] <kobach> Subsentient: that explains it
[06:21:14] <arti> it was bad when even the taiwanese developers would complain when the dude visited their offices
[06:21:14] <Subsentient> kobach: I'm the guy that makes everyone feel weird at the group counseling sessions.
[06:20:47] <SlimShady> karma - arti: 37
[06:20:47] <crutchy> arti++
[06:20:43] <SlimShady> karma - arti: 36
[06:20:43] <kobach> arti++
[06:20:40] <crutchy> wrong
[06:20:38] <crutchy> lol
[06:20:38] <kobach> omg
[06:20:31] <arti> guy with dandruff named sean? parmasean.
[06:20:21] <kobach> hes all over the place
[06:20:16] <kobach> i dont even know what to do with him
[06:20:12] <kobach> whereas Subsentient
[06:20:09] <MrBluze> hi Subs, prosp
[06:20:07] <arti> i worked with a guy who came up with great nicknames
[06:20:01] <crutchy> hey prospectacle,subsentient
[06:19:53] <kobach> our other porn star
[06:19:44] * arti snickers
[06:19:39] <crutchy> ew
[06:19:39] <kobach> we do have prospectacle the testacle
[06:19:35] <kobach> oh i forgot
[06:19:29] <arti> :|
[06:19:26] <MrBluze> sexy smeary greasy bacon
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[06:19:25] <kobach> theyre both not young
[06:19:17] <MrBluze> streaky bacon
[06:19:15] <kobach> hes not young like audioguy
[06:19:08] <MrBluze> ## ? bacon
[06:19:04] <MrBluze> ok
[06:19:01] <kobach> look at what goes on in there
[06:19:00] <MrBluze> lol ko
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[06:18:56] <kobach> how come he left ##?
[06:18:48] <kobach> lol thats probably just his default quit msg MrBluze
[06:18:36] <MrBluze> how come?
[06:18:36] <kobach> mission failed
[06:18:24] <kobach> i chased him out of ## and now hes been chased out of #soylent good job men
[06:17:58] <kobach> which is odd
[06:17:54] <kobach> HAD a porn star, i guess he doesnt smoke
[06:17:50] * arti imagines fuzzy dice
[06:17:29] <kobach> balls hurgenson
[06:17:26] <kobach> yeah
[06:17:23] <arti> we have a porn star?
[06:17:21] <kobach> now we're just left with juggs|afk
[06:17:13] <kobach> if you would have taken it to ## wed still have our porn star
[06:17:13] <arti> you must be tired or something not to catch that
[06:17:01] <crutchy> now that arti has de-retarded my code i can actually run it :-P
[06:16:56] <kobach> see
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[06:16:42] <kobach> lol
[06:16:38] * arti has opted for a beer
[06:16:34] <arti> i want to get some more coding in prior to that
[06:16:23] <arti> it'll smell like laundry...
[06:16:22] <kobach> arti: you had it last, not me
[06:16:08] <arti> kobach, just rig up a tube with some dryer sheets in it
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[06:16:06] <crutchy> #soylent < pipe > ##
[06:16:05] <kobach> get out
[06:16:03] <kobach> oh my
[06:15:57] <crutchy> lol
[06:15:53] * MrBluze sprays the room with roundup
[06:15:50] * SN sprays febreeze
[06:15:46] <crutchy> you need a pipe
[06:15:43] <MrBluze> oh
[06:15:36] <kobach> im trying to get the weed smell into a different room
[06:15:36] <crutchy> hey mrbluze
[06:15:34] <MrBluze> 'sup bro
[06:15:27] <kobach> hi MrBluze
[06:15:22] * MrBluze looks at kobach
[06:15:15] <kobach> not my channel, unlike ##
[06:14:47] <kobach> not that i give a shit, but not my rules
[06:14:31] <kobach> iirc this channel is supposed to be PG
[06:14:12] <kobach> the hash channel
[06:14:09] <kobach> arti: pass the hash to ## please
[06:13:28] <kobach> lol
[06:13:27] <kobach> i was about to say
[06:13:25] <kobach> ^
[06:13:22] <crutchy> amongst other stuff
[06:13:20] <kobach> lol
[06:13:14] <crutchy> i'm sure that scene probably sold some beer
[06:12:43] <arti> brb
[06:12:42] * arti finds something to eat
[06:12:34] <kobach> thats a lie
[06:12:32] <kobach> im here
[06:12:31] <kobach> no
[06:12:26] <crutchy> we're all maturity in here... n shit
[06:12:22] <arti> hahaha
[06:12:15] <kobach> hahahahahaha
[06:12:07] <kobach> WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:12:00] <kobach> WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP x5
[06:11:57] <crutchy> WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
[06:11:53] <kobach> but fuck it
[06:11:53] <crutchy> yeah
[06:11:51] <crutchy> lol
[06:11:47] <kobach> this belongs in ## not here
[06:11:46] <crutchy> s/WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP/WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP/
[06:11:44] <kobach> HAHA
[06:11:41] <kobach> WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP x5
[06:11:32] <kobach> WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
[06:11:22] <crutchy> s/WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP/WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP/g
[06:11:18] <kobach> dont remember the commercial since i dont watch tv much
[06:11:15] <crutchy> hey sedbot.... WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
[06:11:00] <kobach> no this was a movie
[06:10:52] <arti> one of the few american beer commercials to do well internationally
[06:10:50] <stderr> kobach: Yes... ^ is up.
[06:10:50] <kobach> WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
[06:10:47] <kobach> WAAAAAAAAAZUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP stderr
[06:10:44] <crutchy> WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
[06:10:42] * arti picks up the phone
[06:10:33] <kobach> ^
[06:10:29] <crutchy> yo arti: pick up the phone
[06:10:29] <kobach> WAAAAAAAAAZUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP stderr
[06:10:17] <stderr> Dave's not here, man...
[06:10:14] <kobach> ahahahhaahah
[06:10:12] <SlimShady> karma - waaaaaazaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap: 1
[06:10:12] <crutchy> WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP++
[06:10:00] <kobach> WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
[06:09:57] <kobach> WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
[06:09:57] <crutchy> WAAAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPP!!!!!!!!!
[06:09:55] <kobach> WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
[06:09:53] <kobach> PICK UP THE PHONE
[06:09:52] <kobach> YO DOOGIE
[06:09:49] <kobach> ahahhahhaa
[06:09:47] <kobach> WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
[06:09:46] <kobach> WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
[06:09:39] <kobach> WAAAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
[06:09:08] <arti> now kith
[06:08:53] <crutchy> waaaaazzuuuuuuuup!!!!!!
[06:08:44] <kobach> crutchy: i love you
[06:08:31] * arti packs with some hash
[06:08:21] * kobach takes bong
[06:08:21] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[06:08:16] <kobach> somebody said the magic word
[06:08:09] <kobach> oh hey now
[06:07:46] <arti> let's engineer some good feelings
[06:07:46] * crutchy passes bong
[06:07:36] <arti> sure you have, btw pass the bong
[06:07:26] <crutchy> suddenly i start typing get_file_contents
[06:07:15] <crutchy> i've been using file_get_contents for years
[06:07:11] <arti> you're dyslexic :D
[06:07:00] <crutchy> oh your fucking kidding me
[06:05:06] <crutchy> ok
[06:05:02] * crutchy opens synaptic & searches php
[06:04:59] <arti> try file_get_contents?
[06:04:51] <crutchy> hmm
[06:04:34] <arti> --without-useful-features
[06:04:33] <crutchy> yeah
[06:04:26] <stderr> So the function isn't throwing an undefined error... The function _is_ what's undefined.
[06:04:20] * arti wonders if it could some how be compiled out
[06:03:59] <crutchy> this is the first time i've used it on cli before though
[06:03:49] <crutchy> i've used get_file_contents for years in web apps
[06:03:13] <crutchy> jared@binda:/var/www/slash/git/test$ php -f karma.php PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function get_file_contents() in /var/www/slash/git/test/karma.php on line 26
[06:02:57] <arti> on failure it should return false o.o
[06:02:49] <arti> whats the error exactly?
[06:02:38] <crutchy> jared@binda:~$ php --version PHP 5.3.3-7+squeeze19 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Feb 18 2014 13:59:15) Copyright (c) 1997-2009 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2010 Zend Technologies with Suhosin v0.9.32.1, Copyright (c) 2007-2010, by SektionEins GmbH
[06:02:10] <crutchy> yup
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[06:02:06] <arti> crutchy: are you using a version of php > 4.3.0?
[06:01:40] <crutchy> why didn't i think of that?
[06:01:32] <crutchy> :-P
[06:01:15] <SlimShady> karma - stderr: 37
[06:01:15] <arti> stderr++
[05:59:31] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm glad somebody else said it :)
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[05:58:57] <stderr> crutchy: Something undefined?
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[05:57:26] <crutchy> anyone know what would cause php's get_file_contents to throw an undefined error?
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[05:53:27] <crutchy> there's dead crutchy's all over the place :-P
[05:53:14] <crutchy> i think i only died about 4 times
[05:52:52] <crutchy> i tried to beat up a mongrel in there but it scratched me the bitch
[05:52:31] <crutchy> ?
[05:52:24] <crutchy> is that in mattie_p's dungeon of kinky ascii pr0n
[05:52:21] <arti> and then you look away again and it's gone?
[05:52:05] <SpallsHurgenson> It MUST be teleportation!
[05:51:59] <SpallsHurgenson> I look back in the room. There is a cat laying comfortably on the floor.
[05:51:42] <SpallsHurgenson> I look away for three seconds.
[05:51:37] <SpallsHurgenson> I look in the room. There is definitely no cat lying on the floor.
[05:51:23] <arti> is that how many hotdogs fit?
[05:51:07] <crutchy> lol i can't get enough of seven of nione
[05:50:57] <crutchy> either that or predator cat
[05:50:57] <arti> have you been watching star trek again?
[05:50:52] <crutchy> definitely borg then
[05:50:12] <SpallsHurgenson> there is an 87.44% chance I would not survive such an attempt. There is a 61.88% chance the cat has laser-vision.
[05:49:36] <crutchy> lol
[05:49:28] <arti> RRRrrrrrreeeow*fsst*
[05:49:19] * arti would want to test that
[05:49:11] <crutchy> looks like a command to turn the cat inside out
[05:49:06] <arti> you will become a true believer dr. jones!
[05:48:48] <crutchy> yeah that's it
[05:48:45] <crutchy> lol
[05:48:43] <crutchy> something german sounding
[05:48:42] <arti> haskell
[05:48:38] <crutchy> forgotten it again
[05:48:26] <crutchy> lol damn that language thingo you learning
[05:47:59] <arti> :t Cat
[05:47:51] <crutchy> calculated using www.catrobotprobabilitycalculator.com no doubt
[05:47:28] <SpallsHurgenson> no, it might be a robot designed to look like a cat. I suspect this as well, with a 47.2% possibility
[05:47:20] <crutchy> cat.classtype = ?
[05:47:10] <SedBot> <arti> quickly, inquire what type of object it is
[05:47:10] <arti> s/quicky/quickly/
[05:47:03] <arti> quicky, inquire what type of object it is
[05:46:54] <crutchy> maybe a borg cat
[05:46:43] <crutchy> are you sure its a cat?
[05:45:58] <arti> she always exits the room, never enters?
[05:43:56] <SpallsHurgenson> I am now 93.75% sure my cat has a functioning teleport, although I have not yet determined if this an innate ability or whether she is using some sort of mechanical aid
[05:42:05] <arti> greetings sir
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[05:27:51] <kobach> lol
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[05:13:35] <crutchy> didn't see your msg
[05:13:27] <crutchy> sorry mate my phone popped in by itself
[05:13:09] <crutchy> hey kobach
[05:13:05] <crutchy> good afternoon soylent
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[05:11:35] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - NSA Performed Warrantless Searches in US - http://sylnt.us - but-its-legal-now-that-we've-changed-the-rules
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[04:37:54] <juggs> sl
[04:29:20] <juggs> d'oh
[04:29:15] <juggs> sco
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[04:23:01] <kobach> bye
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[04:22:58] <kobach> sup crutchy
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[04:20:57] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Effect of Maternal Psychoses on Children - http://sylnt.us
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[04:08:17] <kobach> i wonder how long that link will work
[04:08:00] <SlimShady> Added quote 93
[04:08:00] <kobach> !grab stderr
[04:07:55] <kobach> omg stderr
[04:06:21] <stderr> http://i.huffpost.com
[04:05:52] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... apparently win7 needs bootcamp 4... I wonder what I have
[04:05:18] <juggs> hi :)
[04:04:43] <Bytram> juggs: hiya!
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[04:04:29] <Bytram> oh.
[04:04:18] <kobach> it requires IPX to play though, people have tcp patches
[04:04:05] <kobach> no
[04:03:42] <Bytram> hmmm, does the game require a net connection?
[04:03:34] <SpallsHurgenson> I wonder if it'll handle Win7...
[04:02:41] <kobach> even xp needs compatability mode
[04:02:27] <kobach> it knows windows 98 and 2000
[04:02:22] <kobach> it needs to be in the box
[04:02:18] <kobach> lol
[04:02:13] <Bytram> never played it so I wouldn't know... just trying to think outside the "box" =)
[04:02:10] <SpallsHurgenson> that reminds me, I need to upgrade my old MacMini from XP to... something
[04:02:07] <kobach> lol
[04:01:38] <kobach> doesnt run out of the box*
[04:01:23] <kobach> Bytram: if it doesnt run on windows 7, a bsd variant sure as fuck isnt going to work
[03:59:23] <Popeidol> and you could run it on 32mb ram
[03:59:21] <SpallsHurgenson> impressive; I wouldn't even know where to plug the mouse in with my parents
[03:59:21] <Bytram> kobach: maybe try a bsd variant, instead?
[03:59:17] <Popeidol> it was a damn solid OS
[03:58:44] <Popeidol> I only upgraded my parents from win2k last year
[03:58:15] <kobach> windows 7 base install, 2.4gb
[03:58:07] <kobach> windows 2000 all updates under 600 meg
[03:57:00] * kobach looks for a windows 2000 iso
[03:56:53] <kobach> hmm
[03:56:48] <kobach> im sure i have
[03:56:46] <kobach> i wonder if ive tried on vm
[03:56:35] <kobach> :(
[03:56:26] <kobach> so no go
[03:56:24] <kobach> for some reason
[03:56:20] <kobach> the cursor makes it go super slow in linux
[03:56:12] <kobach> yes its true
[03:56:05] <SpallsHurgenson> no!
[03:56:01] * SN gasps
[03:55:45] <kobach> i love that game so much sometimes ill even boot into windows
[03:55:24] <kobach> thats fine, then i can play tiberian sun without a problem again
[03:55:12] <kobach> lol
[03:50:53] <Bytram> uucp and bang paths
[03:50:37] <SpallsHurgenson> we should all go back to IPX and Netware :)
[03:44:48] <kobach> not even once
[03:44:43] <kobach> ^^^ipv4
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[03:44:36] <kobach> SpallsHurgenson: dont worry im also stuck in the 80s
[03:44:23] <kobach> well anyway
[03:43:03] <kobach> Underlying IPv4 is 78.
[03:42:46] <kobach> lol
[03:42:23] <kobach> boring
[03:42:19] <kobach> ahh yes
[03:42:13] <kobach> oh ok
[03:42:06] <kobach> SpallsHurgenson: yes yes same ip scheme
[03:41:59] <Tachyon_> it is not ipv6 it is only ipv4 translation
[03:41:55] <kobach> LOL
[03:41:53] <SpallsHurgenson> speak for yourself; some of us are well-rooted in the '80s... and we LIKE it
[03:41:49] <Popeidol> so I'm right in the zone
[03:41:46] <Popeidol> at the moment I'm trying to set up a p1 laptop
[03:41:44] <Tachyon_> hm
[03:41:39] <Popeidol> actually yes
[03:41:34] <kobach> not a lot of ipv6
[03:41:32] <Tachyon_> that is the first time i've got it
[03:41:31] <kobach> yup
[03:41:27] <Tachyon_> wow
[03:41:20] <kobach> most people here are still in the 90s
[03:41:18] <Tachyon_> hi :)
[03:41:11] <kobach> welcome to the 21st century
[03:41:05] <kobach> congrats on the ipv6
[03:41:01] <kobach> sup Tachyon_
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[03:36:42] <kobach> is fucked
[03:36:23] <kobach> ^
[03:36:20] <kobach> that
[03:36:18] <kobach> But tommorrow is another day.
[03:36:15] <kobach> A couple of hours later, as I see the SWAT vehicle roll up outside the poor pleb's apartment I realise that for some, it just doesn't.
[03:36:08] <kobach> Later, inside the Municipal Energy Authority Computer, as I'm modifying the poor pleb's Energy Bill by several zeros, I can't help but think about what lapse of judgement - what act of heinous stupidity - causes them to call. Then, even later, when I'm adding the poor pleb's photo image over the top of the FBI's online "MOST Wanted Armed and Dangerous, SHOOT ON SIGHT" offenders list, I realise I'll probably never know; but then life goes on
[03:36:08] <SpallsHurgenson> I think I used to read BOFH in rec.humor
[03:36:08] <kobach> tldr
[03:35:27] <kobach> ^
[03:35:19] <SpallsHurgenson> don't worry, BOFH is not quite the same when you go back for seconds.
[03:35:09] <Bytram> afk back in 5minutes or so
[03:35:01] <Bytram> I can't even spell afk! definitely need to eat!! LOL
[03:34:37] <Bytram> hmm, plate? time to make dinner! aka
[03:34:30] <kobach> loooooooool
[03:34:25] <Bytram> I spent too many hours on that site a few years back... my plate's too full now to dare look again
[03:34:02] <kobach> thats fucked
[03:33:43] <kobach> like wow
[03:33:38] <kobach> this one is quite evil http://bofh.ntk.net
[03:33:36] <Bytram> j/k
[03:33:32] <kobach> oh my
[03:33:32] <Bytram> =)
[03:33:25] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: so, start coding!
[03:33:21] <Bytram> would have been nice, but it could be that a bunch of little things all popped up at once?
[03:33:06] <SpallsHurgenson> no slacking! As a user who contributes nothing to the site, I demand extra features, and I want them now! :)
[03:32:20] <MrBluze> after all we are a team
[03:32:15] <MrBluze> its useful to let people know
[03:31:56] <Bytram> I know I had too take it easy for a couple days here so I could catch on things on the "home front"... maybe the same for him?
[03:30:43] <kobach> oh ok
[03:30:37] <Bytram> kobach: I just meant to reference the souce of my info; in hopes you might have other ideas.
[03:30:36] <kobach> ye
[03:29:54] <MrBluze> u mean disappearing act?
[03:29:51] <Bytram> hmm, whatever happened there?
[03:29:50] <kobach> you just did for me
[03:29:45] <kobach> y
[03:29:39] <Bytram> look at SN.org/~laminatorx/
[03:29:33] <kobach> hopefully hes not pulling a girlpluggedout
[03:29:16] <kobach> interesting
[03:28:45] <Bytram> hmmm, looks like lamx's last posting on SN was on 3/29
[03:27:39] <kobach> loooooooool
[03:27:30] * Bytram also remembers how many quarters it took to be able to GET to that point... :(
[03:27:04] <kobach> what a deal
[03:26:40] <Bytram> My fave, though, was "Star Wars" by Atari, one quarter would get me just over an hour... then my fingers got too tired.
[03:26:18] <kobach> back when people could afford to go out and have fun
[03:26:04] <kobach> hahaha
[03:25:58] <Bytram> and that, in turn reminds me of Galaga-- wasted many a coin on THAT game!
[03:25:51] <kobach> vector graphics are always fun
[03:25:40] <MrBluze> lol
[03:25:29] <kobach> lol
[03:25:24] <Bytram> reminds me of ray-traced battlezone back in the early 80's IIRC.
[03:24:29] <kobach> going to download x-tank
[03:24:28] <Bytram> Doh! LOL!!!
[03:24:12] <kobach> if we're meeting, hes not missing, which defeats the purpose of meeting
[03:23:56] <kobach> but this is to address his missing issue
[03:23:18] <Bytram> that's 20 minutes if you can meet somewhere near midway.
[03:23:13] <kobach> no clue his address or real name lol
[03:23:01] <kobach> nope
[03:22:56] <Bytram> didn't know that! have you met?
[03:22:27] <kobach> hes about 40min drive from here
[03:22:20] <Bytram> !seen LaminatorX
[03:22:17] <Bytram> !sen LaminatorX
[03:22:14] <kobach> compared to everyone else yes
[03:22:05] <Bytram> r u nayboars?
[03:22:02] <MrBluze> !seen xlaminator
[03:21:52] <kobach> if hes missing for a long period of time
[03:21:30] <kobach> all else fails ill go to his house
[03:21:25] <MrBluze> snap ;)
[03:21:22] <MrBluze> yeah
[03:21:20] <Bytram> heh!
[03:21:14] <Bytram> 'suppose I could e-mail him, or just ask the commander?
[03:21:07] <MrBluze> you can ask mattie_p, or NCommander if all else fails
[03:20:58] <Bytram> j/k
[03:20:56] <MrBluze> i rarely catch him too ltely
[03:20:50] <MrBluze> i dunno
[03:19:54] * Bytram wonders if that is two's complement arithmetic?
[03:19:19] <Bytram> methinks we've got complementary schedules.
[03:19:08] <Bytram> MrBluze: not yet... haven't seen lamx here for several days.
[03:18:39] <MrBluze> did u get onto editorial?
[03:18:34] <MrBluze> hi Bytram how's things
[03:18:25] <Bytram> MrBluze: greetings!
[03:17:45] <MrBluze> hi all
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[03:15:01] <kobach> http://bofh.ntk.net
[03:14:55] <kobach> yes i just posted
[03:14:50] <kobach> lol
[03:13:56] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: Children are hereditary... if your parent's didn't have any, you probably won't, either!
[03:13:31] <Bytram> kobach: BOFH? what a hoot!
[03:13:15] <SpallsHurgenson> if we get rid of parents, kids won't have any problems!
[03:12:44] <SpallsHurgenson> parents! They are to blame for everything!
[03:12:28] <kobach> reading BOFH
[03:12:26] <kobach> not much
[03:12:05] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Predicting Language Skill Between Ages 2 and 3 - http://sylnt.us - your-language-skills-are-decided-by-your-parents
[03:11:50] <Bytram> kobach: just trying to catch up things...you?
[03:10:14] <kobach> sup Bytram
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[03:04:19] <kobach> hahahaha
[03:03:58] <michealpwalls> rofl
[03:03:56] <michealpwalls> "No, I didn't think you had", I say, changing the stairwell temperature to zero and cranking up the humidity. "But you've been running your program on the system already, haven't you?"
[03:02:23] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm not sure that was a joke :
[03:02:19] <paulej72> im back
[02:59:40] <michealpwalls> lol
[02:58:11] <SpallsHurgenson> LinkedIn looked at Facebook and said, "that site is worthless and scummy; how can we become more like them?"
[02:57:48] <kobach> comp.misc
[02:57:21] <kobach> lol
[02:57:12] <michealpwalls> Think my download is choking off my IRC client LOL
[02:55:56] <michealpwalls> That story's hilarious btw
[02:54:33] <michealpwalls> Only without the games?
[02:54:23] <michealpwalls> lol kobach linkedin is kind of like facebook
[02:52:53] <SpallsHurgenson> next thing you'll mention is you-ess-eee-en-eee-tee! These things are unmentionable! Do not mention them!
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[02:51:48] <kobach> lol
[02:51:17] <SpallsHurgenson> Stop talking about that!
[02:51:06] <kobach> was from fight club
[02:51:01] <kobach> my first airline revelation
[02:50:58] * SpallsHurgenson isn't sure if he meant that he uses a catapult to fly or instead uses it on the TSA... I guess either way would be satisfactory :)
[02:50:56] <kobach> i remember
[02:49:55] <kobach> can never have enough
[02:49:47] <kobach> but thanks for more reasons to tell people to boycott the airlines
[02:49:37] <kobach> yes
[02:49:26] <SpallsHurgenson> I use a giant catapult, as I think everyone here knows
[02:49:05] <kobach> plus since i have a diesel its cheaper to drive almost everywhere
[02:48:56] <kobach> i just boycott them for the tsa
[02:46:23] <SpallsHurgenson> more reasons never, ever to fly: http://www.huffingtonpost.com
[02:45:26] <kobach> http://bofh.ntk.net
[02:43:53] <kobach> etc
[02:43:51] <kobach> what happens there, what does it do
[02:43:38] <kobach> what exactly is linkedin
[02:41:42] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - LinkedIn Emails Exposed Via Browser Add On - http://sylnt.us - how-is-this-possible?
[02:39:21] <paulej72> stderr: lol
[02:38:41] <kobach> rofl
[02:38:37] <kobach> they were headed home
[02:38:36] <stderr> paulej72: "the old ways" = "v32.bis"?
[02:38:27] <kobach> i only saw it at dusk
[02:38:15] <paulej72> Ok got to go home now. bbl
[02:37:41] <paulej72> I travel through Amish country in PA, but never at night. Lots of horses and buggies around Lancaster. Out in Western PA were i grew up we have a lot of Meninites now. They have less issues with technology, but still cling to the old ways
[02:35:23] <kobach> ive seen it
[02:35:15] <kobach> im pretty sure they're good if they have lights
[02:35:08] <paulej72> SpallsHurgenson: it is done with chalk on a wirting slate.
[02:34:49] <SpallsHurgenson> Ding dong! Prithee, we have come to buildeth thee a barn!
[02:34:16] <paulej72> unless there is more to that statute
[02:34:04] <SpallsHurgenson> I wonder what amish porn is like...
[02:33:43] <paulej72> no horse drawn vehicles after sunset to half hour before sunrise, amish need to go out at night too
[02:33:35] <kobach> i fucking saw amish shopping at aldi's in the middle of nowhere once
[02:33:26] <michealpwalls> Yup! It's true, man!
[02:33:20] <SpallsHurgenson> I knew it!
[02:33:16] <SpallsHurgenson> he's a small round fruit-flavored sucking candy?
[02:33:02] <kobach> lol
[02:32:46] <michealpwalls> Gah, paule's a life saver! *bows*
[02:31:32] <kobach> why
[02:31:30] <kobach> theres lots of amish here
[02:31:04] <paulej72> discrimination
[02:30:51] <paulej72> kobach: what no Amish in your state?
[02:29:06] <kobach> theres our porn star
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[02:26:58] <kobach> fuck it, ill just put on the orange triangle
[02:26:51] <kobach> i think that might mean i need lights and shit
[02:26:35] <kobach> my minibike does 26-27
[02:26:28] <kobach> 307.127. 1. No person shall operate on any public highway of this state any slow-moving vehicle or equipment after sunset to one-half hour before sunrise, any animal-drawn vehicle, or any other machinery, designed for use or normally operated at speeds less than twenty-five miles per hour,
[02:26:25] <kobach> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[02:26:18] <kobach> nope
[02:24:48] <stderr> I will get my spot back...
[02:24:15] <kobach> irpg
[02:24:14] <kobach> errr
[02:23:32] <kobach> used to be top on irc
[02:23:26] <kobach> hasnt been there for ages
[02:23:18] <kobach> there he goes again
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[02:19:47] <kobach> hahahaha
[02:19:44] <kobach> can i legally drive it on the road?
[02:19:39] <kobach> if i put one of those slow moving vehicle orange triangles on my minibike
[02:19:31] <kobach> i wonder
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[02:17:50] <SlimShady> Added quote 92
[02:17:50] <kobach> !grab stderr
[02:17:36] <kobach> lololol
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[02:12:26] <michealpwalls> hah
[02:11:51] <stderr> I have found an easy way to get any HTML page to work in any browser... The trick is to define a browser as "a program that understands HTML", thereby excluding all versions of IE.
[02:10:36] <michealpwalls> What kills me is, mostly the site works fine in IE8, IE10 and IE11... The only IEs I have access to at home :/
[02:09:45] <kobach> lol
[02:09:25] <michealpwalls> But if you ever spot one, look out mate!
[02:09:19] <michealpwalls> Such a rare animal, it's hard to spot in the wild
[02:09:08] <michealpwalls> haha I know, it's foreign!
[02:09:04] <kobach> :p
[02:08:58] <kobach> "IE9" you speak of
[02:08:55] <kobach> what is this
[02:06:52] <paulej72> sure I have an IE9 machine close by I think
[02:02:33] <michealpwalls> oh! could I borrow you in a few to test something with IE9? (This VM is taking a lot longer than I thought to download hehe)
[02:02:03] <mrcoolbp> Landon: yeah that
[02:02:03] <paulej72> yes I am still at work
[02:01:50] <michealpwalls> paulej72, you don't happen to be at work do you? :)
[02:01:31] <Landon> ?title= and index.php/WikiPage
[02:01:27] <paulej72> no it was what i gave above becasue that worked at one point
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[02:01:12] <Landon> there were both
[02:00:56] <mrcoolbp> the "/" wasn't there at the end methinks
[02:00:40] <mrcoolbp> paulej72 I think the old link style was http://wiki.soylentnews.org or something
[01:58:59] <Landon> any others we need?
[01:58:57] <Landon> dev, getinvolved, devvm, ircvision have been fixed
[01:57:42] <Landon> but the rest can wait for a more automated solution
[01:57:41] <paulej72> that is just a sample
[01:57:35] <Landon> I'll fix those
[01:57:32] <Landon> so I've only got 4 with more than 20 clisk
[01:57:22] <Landon> ok
[01:57:13] <paulej72> http://wiki.soylentnews.org is incorrect, http://wiki.soylentnews.org is correct
[01:56:39] <Landon> only article in the top 5 most clicked
[01:56:28] <Landon> hey that article got some pretty good hits
[01:56:23] <Landon> (204) - soylentnews.org - SoylentNews | Predicting Adolescence Obesity From Age 6 Created 2 days ago
[01:55:48] <paulej72> I don’t
[01:55:08] <Landon> does anyone have any SQL magic to fix this
[01:55:03] <Landon> so it's all in mysql
[01:54:50] <paulej72> the old links have index.php in them. the new ones do not have that in the url
[01:54:39] <kobach> rofl
[01:54:31] <Landon> ;p
[01:54:31] <Landon> you mean the tens of thousands of wiki links
[01:54:03] <Landon> :\
[01:54:02] <Landon> ugh
[01:53:07] <paulej72> Landon: it seems all of the links that go to the wiki in the shortener, no longer work. The wiki link strructure changed recently
[01:52:44] <kobach> whoops
[01:52:43] <kobach> its a level 49
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[01:39:09] <kobach> sup Landon how u
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[01:31:13] <Landon> I've been watching jesse coxs lets play of it
[01:31:00] <Landon> indeed
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[01:04:28] <poutine--> Stick of Truth and Infamous Second Son was good
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[00:52:54] <SlimShady> karma - poutine: -335
[00:52:54] <kobach> poutine--
[00:52:51] <kobach> wheres poutine-- , we need to add some worthless arguments to this discussion
[00:49:35] <kobach> halo pc, dunno what year that came out
[00:49:23] <kobach> i cant think of a game past that that ive really been interested in
[00:49:10] <michealpwalls> That was politically incorrect of me, sorry haha.. I'm terrible, I'm going to go back to putting IE in a headlock
[00:48:58] <kobach> hahaha
[00:48:55] <kobach> i think the newest game id be willing to play regularly again is UT2004
[00:48:44] <kobach> luckily all the games i like are old anyway
[00:48:31] <kobach> horrible
[00:48:27] <kobach> ^
[00:48:27] <michealpwalls> It makes me giggle so much
[00:48:20] <michealpwalls> Intel GPUs are funny. They have such awesome, open source drivers for any random OS you throw at their website... But I mean, at the end of the day we're putting lipstick on a one-legged retard right? :/
[00:48:17] <kobach> 5 minute proceess if i used power tools
[00:48:03] <kobach> i already had to replace the screen on this because the backlight went out
[00:47:45] <kobach> lol
[00:47:44] <kobach> im sure its better than this shit intel
[00:47:35] <michealpwalls> Wicked!
[00:47:32] <kobach> yup
[00:47:28] <michealpwalls> hehe would you buy my GPU?
[00:47:24] <kobach> lol
[00:47:16] <michealpwalls> "GPU #3450. It's really good, buy it."
[00:47:03] <kobach> haha
[00:46:58] <michealpwalls> I envy marketing people sometimes. I could never come up with such a cool sounding name :(
[00:46:55] <kobach> yea i hear good things about it
[00:46:44] <michealpwalls> Quadro sounds really powerful (The word, haha0
[00:46:24] <kobach> so i think thats still more than you get in a crapbook pro, not sure
[00:46:08] <kobach> for 2100 i went down to Intel Core i7-4700MQ Processor (6MB Cache, up to 3.40GHz), 16GB PC3-12800 DDR3L (4 DIMM), a 500gb hybrid drive, and dvd recorder instead of 2nd drive
[00:40:58] <kobach> not a 6 like the basic specs
[00:40:45] <kobach> btw, it comes with a 99.9wh, 9 cell battery
[00:40:16] <kobach> Ports Thunderbolt, 2 USB 3.0, 2 USB 2.0, VGA, RJ-45, 4-in-1 card reader, express card, headphone/mic combo, mini DisplayPort
[00:40:15] <kobach> Microphone Dual noise-cancelling HD microphones
[00:40:15] <kobach> Speakers Stereo with Dolby® Home Theater® v4
[00:40:15] <kobach> Weight Starting at 5.45 lbs
[00:40:14] <kobach> Battery Life Up to 6 hours with standard 6-cell removable battery
[00:39:47] <kobach> and intel dual band wireless
[00:39:36] <kobach> 1tb hdd
[00:39:33] <kobach> 512gb sata 3 ssd
[00:39:18] <kobach> 32GB PC3-12800 DDR3L (4 DIMM)
[00:39:09] <kobach> NVIDIA Quadro K2100M 2GB
[00:38:56] <kobach> 15.5” 3K (2880 x 1620), IPS LED Backlit Anti-Glare Display, Mobile Broadband Ready, Color Sensor
[00:38:49] <kobach> comes with Intel Core i7-4930MX Processor (8MB Cache, up to 3.90GHz)
[00:38:43] <kobach> for a mobile workstation
[00:38:39] <kobach> managed to get a thinkpad up to $4469, could go a few hundred higher with other useless options(wireless broadband card etc)
[00:37:31] <kobach> so dont worry about it, nobody is here trying to have a convo other than us
[00:37:20] <kobach> im the one that would currently be doing any banning
[00:37:18] <michealpwalls> brb, smoke break :P
[00:37:10] <kobach> in 1 line
[00:37:09] <michealpwalls> LOL lets not get banned!
[00:37:05] <kobach> say what you just said twice
[00:36:55] <kobach> lets test
[00:36:53] <kobach> dunno
[00:36:48] <kobach> didnt seem truncated
[00:36:41] <michealpwalls> Does my message get truncated or does excess get sent in a second message? LOL
[00:36:40] <kobach> its great
[00:36:34] <kobach> take it apart and its all just common sense
[00:36:28] <kobach> you dont even need documentation
[00:36:18] <michealpwalls> I mean you can literally swap out almost any component in those old IBM ThinkPads and it's well documented and supported. They used to have every single thing itemized and you could order it, pull the lappy apart and replace it yourself by following the manual's directions. This stupid manual for this ASUS machine doesn't even tell my why the power LED blinks green really fast sometimes :/
[00:36:18] <kobach> yeah ive taken quite a bit apart
[00:33:48] <michealpwalls> Really was a "personal" computer. A lot today, the manuals are so terse.. Absolutely no info.. And you just can't do anything with them without voiding warranties or breaking things LOL
[00:33:22] <michealpwalls> Lenovo is cool, I miss IBM ThinkPads. If you want a real eye-opener google/download a manual for an IBM ThinkPad. Those things are so amazingly engineered and documented! What a dream!
[00:32:47] <kobach> i prefer amd
[00:32:39] <kobach> theyve really expanded their line, they now have gaming thinkpads/towers
[00:32:31] <michealpwalls> I couldn't afford an intel/Nvidia system (at the time) so that's the only reason I say AMD for the win haha. Lets not get into a big thing :P
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[00:32:02] <michealpwalls> AMD for the win. Such great value (heart)
[00:31:57] <kobach> nah id buy from lenovo, i get a discount
[00:31:55] <michealpwalls> I've got two! (flex)
[00:31:48] <kobach> intel 945 bullshit
[00:31:47] <michealpwalls> Yea, Dell makes really nice all-in-ones if you're into that sort of thing
[00:31:44] <kobach> fucking
[00:31:41] <kobach> i wish i had gpu's in this 8 yr old laptop
[00:31:27] <kobach> hahahaha
[00:31:13] <michealpwalls> This thing.. wow. It's a beast. I can heat a small room with the heat it pumps out the side of it, but that's the point.. It's actually properly pumping it out and doesn't touch any frequencies or voltages.. All 4 cores at 100% and both GPUs 100%, rockin' wit' my cock out boys :D
[00:30:42] <kobach> like the imacs of the 90s, but smaller
[00:30:35] <kobach> neat, they make pc all in ones now
[00:30:17] <kobach> lol
[00:30:12] <michealpwalls> It's just aweful.. $2,100 retina display yup, that's what I bought :)
[00:30:01] <michealpwalls> Hense why it "works", but run an OS that lets you change that and you hear the internal fans scream like a wounded animal for 1 and for 2 the thing *still* overheats...
[00:29:55] <kobach> while my thinkpad will passively cool anything under 70% load
[00:29:41] <kobach> all aluminum case cant even disappate heat
[00:29:32] <michealpwalls> In OS X the setup favors noise/power over performance. It *alwaus* throttles down the CPU and turns off the Nvidia GPU when things are too hot... And that's whenever you're putting load on it :P
[00:29:30] <kobach> yeah michealpwalls
[00:29:16] <kobach> instead of the screen light, which i use all the time for non keyboard related stuff
[00:29:08] <kobach> its those chiclet keys now with a backlight
[00:28:59] <kobach> i wouldnt buy a new one for a while regardless, they changed the keyboard
[00:28:55] <michealpwalls> The problem with the macbook, is the case I think. Or at least the lack of serious ventilation. I found, even running gentoo with aggressive management tuning, the stupid thing could not keep itself cool under load. Absolute peice of junk :P
[00:28:40] * kobach checks
[00:28:29] <kobach> lol
[00:28:22] <kobach> spend $2100 on a thinkpad and you get 1900x1200 and a 4 core 3.6ghz proc
[00:28:00] <kobach> yup
[00:27:59] <kobach> lol michealpwalls
[00:27:52] <kobach> rofl xlefay
[00:27:50] <michealpwalls> It's not even a competition :D
[00:27:46] <michealpwalls> I sold my macbook on a local trading site and bought this ASUS PC... For 1/3 the price. This machine absolutely *crushes* the Macbook in performance.
[00:27:42] <xlefay> ok I'm going to emulate Windows and crash, night night'
[00:27:41] <kobach> i at least cant argue much about os x, people seem to manage to use it every day
[00:27:20] <kobach> true
[00:27:16] <kobach> or a high end thinkpad
[00:27:16] <xlefay> kobach, least he doesn't have to experience Windows 8 ;)
[00:27:14] <kobach> if you want to spend $2100 on a notebook it best be a toughbook
[00:27:04] <kobach> hahah peice of shit
[00:26:57] <kobach> hes lived in IBM's mainframe environment for 36yrs
[00:26:54] <michealpwalls> LMAO
[00:26:53] <michealpwalls> Retina was really a nice screen honestly! That's about all I can say about that $2,100 peice of shit
[00:26:36] <kobach> lol michealpwalls , thats what my dad does for a living
[00:26:33] <xlefay> Macbook pro, now with slash-w retina's!
[00:26:26] <michealpwalls> I don't even want to talk about Mainframe class with the mac (dull)
[00:26:26] <kobach> isnt that the screen that you cant see shit with if its remotely bright?
[00:26:13] <xlefay> /w retina, is that an Apple feature?
[00:26:11] <michealpwalls> You should be..
[00:26:09] <kobach> im so sorry
[00:26:06] <kobach> im sorry
[00:26:03] <michealpwalls> Come complain about your mac experiences after that :P
[00:25:42] <michealpwalls> I ran the entire 1st and 2nd semester with a Macbook Pro /w Retina, kobach. That's Computer Architecture and Organization, Intro to Programming, Networking Fundamentals, IBM's Mainframe Environment, Intro to Web Development, Intro to Relational Databases, Maths and all the garbage courses in-between.
[00:25:24] <xlefay> "20 days from now... I'VE FOUND IT!!!"
[00:25:24] <kobach> i dont think theres any torrent progs that run on os 8
[00:25:17] <kobach> lol
[00:25:13] <xlefay> go find out :P
[00:25:06] <kobach> i think
[00:25:00] <kobach> itd be easier tbqh
[00:24:55] <xlefay> Probably should try to download a torrent too!
[00:24:44] <kobach> i should go plug it in and find out
[00:24:39] <kobach> might be 8
[00:24:36] <kobach> os9
[00:24:33] <kobach> lol
[00:24:30] <kobach> i have a 15yr old mac
[00:24:22] <kobach> ^
[00:24:16] <xlefay> I'll take a 10 yr old mac over windows 8 any day
[00:24:09] <kobach> last time i tried to use one, took me 20-25mins to figure out how to download a torrent
[00:23:58] <kobach> i HATE macs
[00:23:52] <SlimShady> Added quote 91
[00:23:51] <xlefay> !grab michealpwalls
[00:23:49] <kobach> im not platform agnostic
[00:23:35] <kobach> and then it removed them????????????????????????omg
[00:23:33] <michealpwalls> I was all ".. whatevs, I'll try it. I'm platform agnostic!"
[00:23:24] <xlefay> michealpwalls, so, it removed your gentoo partitions and it gave you a crappy OS.. well, that's microsoft for ya!
[00:23:24] <michealpwalls> No man! It came on this lappy!
[00:23:17] <michealpwalls> It "repaired" my PC (dull)
[00:23:16] <kobach> thats what you get for installing it!
[00:23:10] <kobach> 8
[00:23:08] <kobach> lol
[00:23:04] <michealpwalls> 8 wiped my gentoo partitions.. I dont' want to talk about it.
[00:23:01] <kobach> theres definitely programs out there, ive seent them
[00:22:53] <kobach> perfect
[00:22:50] <michealpwalls> 7 hehe
[00:22:46] <kobach> i assume you're on 7 or 8?
[00:22:33] <michealpwalls> I'm so used to at least 4 virtual desktops to organize my stuff in and then I can flip desktops to quickly change tasks
[00:22:32] <kobach> michealpwalls: look for a program that adds desktops, theyre out there
[00:22:32] <xlefay> Why the hell does it have workspaces if it shows every damn program on each one?!
[00:22:21] <xlefay> Actually. I have the same problem with unity
[00:22:03] <michealpwalls> kobach Honestly that's my biggest missing feature when I'm on windows... I want more desktops. This one desktop gets so cluttered and crazy during the day...
[00:21:59] <xlefay> kobach, now that was actually a bug on Microsoft's part that worked out to their advantage so now it's a feature
[00:21:30] <kobach> luckily theres aftermarket progs for it
[00:21:24] <kobach> really limiting
[00:21:22] <michealpwalls> It's like DICE! hehe they just need to say it some more before I get it :)
[00:21:21] <kobach> boy that whole 1 desktop thing
[00:21:20] <xlefay> "We must protect our users, especially from themselves."
[00:21:11] <michealpwalls> I know, you're right! I'm so dense :O
[00:21:05] <kobach> windows is a feature
[00:21:01] <xlefay> How often does MicroSoft has to repeat itself before you'll start believin'?!
[00:21:00] <michealpwalls> haha yes, indeed!
[00:20:58] <kobach> ^
[00:20:50] <xlefay> michealpwalls, don't you understand they're not bugs, they're features!
[00:20:44] <kobach> yes well engineered problems indeed
[00:20:33] <michealpwalls> It's all well engineered... the "problems" with IE LOL.
[00:20:32] <kobach> ^
[00:20:23] <xlefay> damn vendor lock-in'
[00:20:21] <michealpwalls> It's minor though, it's a really good place to work. I blame MS and their silly ways :P
[00:20:09] <kobach> well it is legacy equipt, protocols werent written for it back then
[00:19:34] <xlefay> but it isn't on IRC, hence you can't have it both ways
[00:19:21] <kobach> in '90ish
[00:19:16] <kobach> after that incident with the mirror
[00:19:09] <kobach> hubble is fine
[00:19:06] <kobach> dunno
[00:18:59] <xlefay> suppose you can't have it both ways
[00:18:36] <kobach> ^
[00:18:28] <xlefay> You'd think them telescopes would be more stable
[00:18:25] <kobach> yes xlefay
[00:18:18] <kobach> lol
[00:18:13] <michealpwalls> brb
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[00:17:08] <michealpwalls> vendor lock-in is so crazy in this org. I had to write a screen scraper a few weeks ago (dull)
[00:16:59] <xlefay> AD is pretty nice tho
[00:16:46] <michealpwalls> I had brief experience with active directory in my small LAN just for educational purposes and well, yea. That's about why I'm not an IT guy :P
[00:16:44] <xlefay> lock-in*
[00:16:39] <xlefay> eh, kobach it's all vendor lockin
[00:16:13] <michealpwalls> Especially their big show tickets like PeopleSoft (We use it) and the servers like Exchange and all that garbage.. Although really I don't know much about it all except the basic concepts heehee
[00:16:11] <kobach> and dumb
[00:16:05] <kobach> waaaaaay too many companies have shitass web shit that works with only IE, which is completely ignorant
[00:15:42] <kobach> shouldnt have shitass webpages anyway is the problem
[00:15:29] <paulej72> The blocking tool is to allow corporate users time to update there web pages to work with the new versions, but nto to be a crutch for which not to do any work
[00:15:28] <xlefay> The stupid thing is, most of them don't test, they just wait.. or roll out directly
[00:15:27] <kobach> which is generally a short period of time
[00:15:12] <xlefay> makes sense to roll out after a testing period
[00:15:06] <michealpwalls> Well they're afraid of stability and regressions I think
[00:14:59] <xlefay> eh not really no
[00:14:56] <kobach> complete idiots
[00:14:52] <kobach> all orgs are
[00:14:49] <kobach> idiots
[00:14:48] <kobach> lol @ delaying updates for long periods of time
[00:13:59] <xlefay> paulej72, that's microsoft for ya, shoving stuff down one's throat since <insert date>
[00:13:33] <paulej72> Microsoft has a tool that allows orgs to block newer IE installs from a local WSUS server. At some point the tool will stop working and the next version gets deployed anyway.
[00:13:23] <michealpwalls> haha
[00:13:20] <kobach> lol
[00:13:18] <xlefay> I'd take CentOS over it any day *evil grin*
[00:13:01] <michealpwalls> Yea, that's for sure!
[00:12:53] <michealpwalls> hrmm
[00:12:49] <xlefay> Window's weird
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[00:12:11] <paulej72> michealpwalls: if the mahines are domain controlled and use a local WSUS server you can have it not deploy IE updates for some time. On a single machine you can go to Microsoft Updates (bypassing the org level update server) and update to 10 or 11.
[00:11:36] <xlefay> Depending on the size of the org, it's likely they run at least wsus if they're >= mid-sized
[00:11:06] <michealpwalls> All the machines around me in the office i'm working are running IE10.. hehe. I just assumed the whole organization was running the same image, or however they managed it..
[00:10:48] <kobach> brb
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[00:10:43] <kobach> problem is i consider a programmer an it guy :p
[00:10:34] <kobach> oh ok
[00:10:22] <michealpwalls> I use my own laptop technically, but meh. I'm a programmer. I just figured all these machines would be "pulling" updates from the same central server, so therefore be consistent... I guess I oversimplified things? hehe
[00:10:14] <xlefay> ?
[00:09:52] <kobach> what the hell
[00:09:45] <kobach> oh im back in fish again
[00:09:26] <xlefay> it works perfectly
[00:09:24] <xlefay> oh nvm
[00:09:24] <kobach> im in bash
[00:09:19] <kobach> bash?
[00:09:16] <kobach> oh ok
[00:09:11] <kobach> this is news
[00:09:10] <kobach> i didnt know computers cooperated
[00:09:00] <xlefay> I just tried
[00:08:59] <xlefay> kobach, cmatrix won't work with fish though :[
[00:08:53] <michealpwalls> Not *on*, *with* ;)
[00:08:43] <kobach> if you're not an it guy why are you working on computers???
[00:08:41] <michealpwalls> hah
[00:08:34] <kobach> michealpwalls: idiocy spreads rapidly with m$ products
[00:08:19] <michealpwalls> Just seems crazy to me hehe
[00:08:14] <kobach> cd get turned into cmatrix -l
[00:08:14] <michealpwalls> paulej72 Yea I've heard of that (legacy IEs to support legacy intranet apps and such). I just wish I had more warning. I'm not an IT guy, so I don't realy understand how some of the machines in this organization can be running IE10 and some running IE9 :/
[00:08:11] <xlefay> ha
[00:08:04] <kobach> change ls to aafire or some shit
[00:07:55] <kobach> probably a bunch of asshole ones
[00:07:49] <kobach> rofl
[00:07:41] * xlefay should make the most of this time and quickly set aliases for kobach..
[00:07:34] <kobach> then maybe thatll give me time to smoke
[00:07:24] <kobach> ill set it to go for another 30 rounds
[00:07:19] <xlefay> See what I mean?
[00:07:12] <kobach> im not motivated yet
[00:07:07] <kobach> god damnit it ended
[00:06:53] <kobach> lol
[00:06:39] <xlefay> because when it ends, you'll just accidentally hit it by mistake
[00:06:21] <kobach> lol
[00:06:00] <xlefay> Probably not, no
[00:05:54] <kobach> i figure this will be done by the time im motivated to do anything
[00:05:42] <kobach> hahaha
[00:05:37] <xlefay> kobach, cuz I had it set to 500
[00:05:30] <kobach> :p
[00:05:25] <michealpwalls> Not sure what to think about it all haha
[00:05:23] <kobach> xlefay: why would you want out
[00:05:21] <michealpwalls> They even provide different images for different VM hosts. This is surprisingly painless, so far :/
[00:05:19] <xlefay> I'm leaving before I get even hungrier
[00:05:11] <xlefay> :o
[00:05:02] <paulej72> I want some bacon icecream right now.
[00:04:56] <xlefay> I'm disappointed :/ I could get out of the sl loop by ctrl+z
[00:04:40] <kobach> lol
[00:04:15] <xlefay> A man can have wishful dreams now can't he
[00:03:52] <kobach> you knew better
[00:03:49] <kobach> haha
[00:03:40] <kobach> paulej72: nice
[00:03:38] <xlefay> I know, nonetheless, it still looks delicious
[00:03:36] <kobach> decided ill just finish it all off tommorow instead of splitting it
[00:03:27] <paulej72> kobach: I can see the thickness and the cripsiness
[00:03:23] <kobach> im eating, not bacon
[00:03:15] <xlefay> I'm actually hungry now, thank you!
[00:03:00] <kobach> lol
[00:02:55] * xlefay steals his bacon
[00:02:46] <kobach> xlefay: was continuing a conversation with paulej72 from earlier
[00:02:37] * xlefay kills kobach
[00:02:34] <xlefay> ugh
[00:02:32] <kobach> note the extra crispiness of the jowl
[00:02:26] <michealpwalls> haha
[00:02:22] <kobach> and exhibit b; jowl https://farm4.staticflickr.com
[00:02:21] <xlefay> Good luck though and remember #soylent for all your swear parties re: IE
[00:02:10] <kobach> ok ladies and gents we have here exhibit a; bacon https://farm8.staticflickr.com
[00:01:57] <xlefay> michealpwalls, no problem, I've never seen anyone who knew, willingly go near hell
[00:01:49] <paulej72> michealpwalls: we default to IE9 at Princeton as our entreprise apps are not certified to run on anything newer, We have an older version of PeopleSoft that will be updated July 1.
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[00:01:32] <michealpwalls> cya
[00:01:26] <Blackmoore> ok I'm out - cya
[00:01:08] <michealpwalls> thx
[00:01:06] <michealpwalls> That's pretty sweet, actually LOL
[00:01:01] <kobach> i use ie5
[00:00:57] <michealpwalls> Wow! xlefay's right :O
[00:00:42] <kobach> ^
[00:00:37] <paulej72> michealpwalls: I don’t thik aything shipped with 9. Win 7 had IE8 as the default
[00:00:06] <xlefay> of metro!
[00:00:04] <xlefay> http://modern.ie be afraid...