#Soylent | Logs for 2014-03-17

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[00:11:22] <dcosnet> hi all
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[00:13:40] <NezSez> hello dcosnet
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[00:19:32] <arti> greetings
[00:19:55] <NezSez> arti?
[00:20:19] <NezSez> s/arti/bot/
[00:20:19] <SedBot> <NezSez> bot?
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[01:38:26] <n1> i wish i could use mod points :(
[01:42:11] <NezSez> on which post?
[01:43:41] <n1> http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:20] <n1> VLM made a comment about The Independent being an irrelevant "fringe" newspaper that got modded up, which is far from accurate
[01:45:22] <n1> i replied as well, but i'm not going to ask for my own comments to be modded up :P
[01:45:46] <n1> isostatic also made a good response
[01:45:50] <NezSez> IC, alas I spent my 10 this morning
[01:46:40] <n1> someone must have modded one of the comments up a few minutes ago
[01:46:43] <n1> so its a bit better now
[01:48:10] <n1> VLM's comment really doesnt deserve it's informative rating
[01:48:13] <NezSez> it seems that sundays(in US time) are very slow on SN
[01:48:34] <n1> yeah, been a long while since there was a post
[01:49:10] <n1> need to get the whip out on those editors
[01:49:16] <n1> having lives and such
[01:49:17] <n1> psh
[01:50:15] <NezSez> ehehe
[01:50:36] <NezSez> you are referring to VLM's post about the stats I assume
[01:50:53] <n1> yeah
[01:51:35] <n1> 60k a day being compared to 80k a week or what ever... ignoring the 300k circulation of the i (tabloid/condensed version)
[01:51:40] <n1> and it being the 5th most popular news site in UK
[01:52:30] <NezSez> well, you know, it is the interweb....there's an obvious obligatory xkcd if you want me to find the link :)
[01:52:39] <n1> hah
[01:52:50] <n1> i'd like to see it :p
[01:53:16] <n1> i dont mind differing opinions, actively encouraged, but just wrong information modded as informative does annoy me.
[01:53:19] <bytram> n1 we are aware of the lag and are working on it!
[01:53:20] <NezSez> https://xkcd.com
[01:53:36] <n1> nicely done, NezSez
[01:53:41] <NezSez> LOL
[01:54:06] <n1> i wouldnt like to think how many times ive done that...
[01:54:07] <NezSez> hey, I only know about it cause it struck a deep string ya know; hard to forget
[01:54:12] <NezSez> LOL me too
[01:54:40] <n1> bytram, not complaining, just being observant :)
[01:55:37] <NezSez> yeah, I wasn't thinking that any staff/mods/editors were to blame, just a slow day
[01:56:17] <NezSez> everytime i got to find something to post....by the time i read it, i've decided that most wouldn't be interested in it anyway
[01:56:28] <n1> i've been told we can blame janrinok for everything
[01:56:35] <NezSez> like the "Linux Timeline" I found not long ago
[01:57:12] <n1> NezSez, i know what you mean, especially if the articles have anything to do with things that got shit for constantly appearing on the old site
[01:57:14] <NezSez> sounded great.....but it was just basically a list of first release dates of a small number of distros
[01:58:32] <n1> accompanied with commentary about the whys of the distros
[01:58:36] <n1> it could have been interesting
[01:59:24] <NezSez> yeah, it could have been great...but no <sigh>
[02:00:15] <NezSez> all the specific news sites are pretty much crap nowdays too
[02:00:27] <NezSez> specific linux news i meant
[02:00:39] <NezSez> doh...gotta go for a bit
[02:00:51] <NezSez> hope i catch you later n1
[02:01:38] <n1> laters
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[02:10:21] <BadCoderFinger> Yo
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[03:04:42] <NezSez> anyone home?
[03:06:17] <BadCoderFinger> Not a lot, heh
[03:06:30] <BadCoderFinger> How are you, NezSez?
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[03:10:46] <NezSez> doh sry badc, looked away
[03:10:55] <NezSez> i'm good, how are you sir?
[03:11:03] <NezSez> or ma'am as the case may be
[03:11:20] <BadCoderFinger> Pretty good here, good food and good wine.
[03:11:38] <NezSez> good food is indeed good !
[03:11:38] <BadCoderFinger> I am a male, heh.
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[03:11:54] <NezSez> do you cook badc?
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[03:12:13] <NezSez> you know, more than just instant ramen i mean :)
[03:12:22] <BadCoderFinger> I do a little, my wife does most of it.
[03:12:44] <NezSez> i've been sporadically reading "Cooking for Geeks"
[03:12:53] <BadCoderFinger> I manage Italian pretty well, but that's hard to screw up.
[03:12:55] <NezSez> pretty good book i must say
[03:13:27] <NezSez> well cooking noodles correctly is a fine art
[03:13:37] <BadCoderFinger> I'll have to check it out.
[03:14:17] <NezSez> http://www.amazon.com
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[03:16:22] <Popeidol> it's okay guys, you can relax now
[03:16:23] <Popeidol> I'm back
[03:16:31] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[03:16:50] <BadCoderFinger> That's an odd nick, is there a story behind it?
[03:17:36] <Popeidol> not a very interesting one
[03:18:04] <Popeidol> it's from a series called 'absolute power'
[03:18:12] <NezSez> better idol than idle eh?
[03:18:21] <Popeidol> british comedy from the early 2000's
[03:19:04] <NezSez> oh no, everyone here is a MP fan, so now we all gotta go check out 'absolute power'
[03:19:07] <BadCoderFinger> I like British shows, I'll have to look for it.
[03:19:14] <NezSez> LOL see i told you
[03:19:40] * NezSez knew BadC was a Monty Py fan
[03:20:08] <Popeidol> as frequenters of soylent news
[03:20:38] <Popeidol> you will proably find it interesting that the show uses tonnes of second-gen imacs
[03:20:47] <Popeidol> which you never really see around
[03:20:47] <NezSez> I loved 'Coupling' too
[03:20:53] <Popeidol> NezSez++
[03:20:53] <Bender> karma - nezsez: 1
[03:21:02] <NezSez> LOL
[03:21:13] <NezSez> no one here seems to have heard of it
[03:21:36] <Popeidol> here the channel, or here part-of-the-world-you-live-in?
[03:21:45] <NezSez> both frankly
[03:22:06] <NezSez> "lesbian spank inferno"
[03:22:08] <NezSez> LOL
[03:22:18] <NezSez> oh man that series was funny
[03:22:27] <NezSez> "I've got too many legs!"
[03:22:53] <NezSez> the original office was great too
[03:23:01] <Popeidol> my entire family still gets the giggle loop happening
[03:23:03] <Popeidol> because of that show
[03:23:04] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, that one was great.
[03:23:10] <NezSez> LOL giggle loop
[03:23:14] <BadCoderFinger> The American one is a cartoon.
[03:23:35] <NezSez> yeah the US one, well, occasionally mildly amusing
[03:24:07] <NezSez> any actually good sitcom in the US will be cancelled after the first season
[03:24:12] <BadCoderFinger> It's gone on way too long.
[03:24:30] <NezSez> badc: yeah that too.....just milk the corpse sheez
[03:24:57] <BadCoderFinger> Dead horse, meet Mr. Stick.
[03:25:02] <NezSez> 'The IT Crowd' was good
[03:25:17] <Popeidol> the IT crowd was pretty damn amazing
[03:25:26] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, I love that show!
[03:25:35] <Popeidol> and of course fatehr ted, black books, etc
[03:25:41] <NezSez> "We're going to die!"
[03:25:43] <BadCoderFinger> "I don't care if you're from Iran."
[03:25:48] <Popeidol> all following the annoying british tradition of 'ending the show while it's still good'
[03:26:13] <BadCoderFinger> Dylan Moran's standup is good too.
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[03:26:34] <NezSez> I have not heard of either of those
[03:26:44] <Popeidol> NezSez: you definitely need to watch black books
[03:26:57] <Popeidol> it's one of the all-time greats
[03:27:07] <n1> i agree with Popeidol
[03:27:07] <BadCoderFinger> Bernard Black is my hero.
[03:27:08] <NezSez> will do!
[03:28:31] <BadCoderFinger> Plus, everything you need to know about catholicism you can learn from Father Ted.
[03:29:01] <Popeidol> and for your history lesson, watch blackadder (seasons 2 onwards)
[03:29:52] <Popeidol> we could probably cover a whole school curriculum from good british comedy
[03:29:53] <BadCoderFinger> I take great inspiration from the insults hurled at Baldrick.
[03:30:12] <NezSez> I never did try blackadder
[03:30:20] <n1> you should
[03:30:23] <n1> :)
[03:30:29] <NezSez> I did see two seasons of Red Dwarf
[03:30:30] <BadCoderFinger> Chef is good too, the creativity of the Everton insults are great too.
[03:31:10] <NezSez> yeah, i didn't know it was called Chef till you told me the other day badc.....now I can go watch the rest of em :)
[03:31:45] <Popeidol> I haven't had the pleasure of watching chef
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[03:32:09] <NezSez> I thought the nsa advice thing was old news
[03:32:25] <Popeidol> I thought we'd already posted about it?
[03:32:38] <NezSez> yeah i thought so too
[03:32:49] <BadCoderFinger> They could use a good PR guy.
[03:33:09] <NezSez> badc: how did you get into british tv?
[03:33:53] <BadCoderFinger> Not really sure. Found some on PBS, and got hooked.
[03:34:06] * NezSez stumbled onto PBS airing of 'The Holy Grail' one night when he couldn't sleep as a youngster
[03:34:24] <NezSez> yeah me too...thank god for PBS :)
[03:34:58] <NezSez> I was like 12 or so, couldn't sleep so turned on the tv and went channel surfing
[03:35:46] <NezSez> stumbled into the middle of The Holy Grail...in about two minutes I ran to my room and got my portable cassette recorder and started recording the audio :)
[03:36:25] <NezSez> I laughed so hard I thought I might have an aneurism or something
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[03:38:37] <BadCoderFinger> Not just the comedies, I think a lot of the dramas are better. Touching Evil was really good.
[03:39:08] <NezSez> Yeah my whole family was addicted to 'I Claudius'
[03:40:09] <BadCoderFinger> There was a surprisingly decent adaptation with Vera Farmiga and Jeffry Donovan, but nowhere near as good as the original.
[03:41:04] <BadCoderFinger> Trent Reznor did the music for the newer version.
[03:41:10] <NezSez> i'm reading about it now
[03:41:44] <NezSez> Reznor is good
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[03:42:29] <NezSez> badc: I take it you are into music. Do you play as well?
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[03:42:56] <BadCoderFinger> I make noise with a guitar, but I am by no stretch a musician.
[03:43:09] <NezSez> lol
[03:43:22] <NezSez> what genres do yo like?
[03:45:01] <BadCoderFinger> I like metal, but then I also like a lot of jazz. Some classical is quite good, Wagner and Bruckner (close your eyes, you'll think it's Wagner!), Karl Orff is a favorite, heh!
[03:45:51] <NezSez> I have not heard Orff
[03:46:45] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, you probably have. The "O, Fortuna" movement of Carmina Burana is quite famous.
[03:47:10] <BadCoderFinger> It was used in "Excalibur"
[03:47:13] <NezSez> oh LOL
[03:47:21] <NezSez> yes that is great
[03:47:26] <BadCoderFinger> And many others that I can't remember.
[03:48:06] <BadCoderFinger> Grieg is good, and Gustav Holst (which you'll know if you hear it)
[03:48:34] <NezSez> I like Ravel, Holst, and all the other famous ones too
[03:48:38] <NezSez> stravinsky
[03:49:04] <NezSez> Bach is amazing
[03:49:30] <NezSez> 'The Planets' one of my all time favourites
[03:49:51] <BadCoderFinger> Firebird is good, heh,
[03:50:05] <NezSez> yeah firebird
[03:50:06] <BadCoderFinger> Vangelis makes good mood music.
[03:50:12] <NezSez> night on bald mountain
[03:50:27] <BadCoderFinger> Well, some of it. Some of it is not so good.
[03:50:31] <NezSez> yeah I loved Vangelis....they did the soundtrack for 'Blade Runner'
[03:50:52] <NezSez> yes some of it can be a bit boring
[03:51:50] <NezSez> ever hear of 'FourPlay'?
[03:51:58] <NezSez> very good jazz group
[03:52:14] <BadCoderFinger> No, I haven't. I'll look them up.
[03:52:36] <NezSez> you've heard them, and you've heard the members in other groups almost certainly
[03:52:41] <BadCoderFinger> I actually sort of like lounge jazz too.
[03:52:57] <NezSez> Nathan East, Lee Ritenour, Bob James
[03:53:17] <NezSez> any kind of jazz is fun to play
[03:53:21] <BadCoderFinger> One of my best memories was in an underground club in Austin called "The White Elephant"
[03:53:30] <NezSez> some of it is hard to listen to for long though :)
[03:53:41] <NezSez> You've been in Austin?????
[03:53:45] <NezSez> wow
[03:53:55] <NezSez> I'm from TX
[03:54:37] <BadCoderFinger> A long time ago, yeah.
[03:54:47] <BadCoderFinger> Austin is a cool town.
[03:54:58] <NezSez> Well....it has been yes
[03:55:16] <NezSez> everytime I ever went there, i witnessed a crime
[03:55:25] <BadCoderFinger> Natch!
[03:55:41] <NezSez> I can't say that about any other city
[03:55:45] <Popeidol> the same crime each time?
[03:55:49] <Popeidol> or did they vary?
[03:56:10] <NezSez> Detroit, Chicago, San Fran, San Antonio, Juarez Mexico, Dallas, etc etc
[03:56:18] <NezSez> different crime each time
[03:56:25] <BadCoderFinger> "A mugging! Always a mugging! And his name was Fred! Every time!"
[03:56:36] <Popeidol> fred seriously needs to stop going home that way
[03:56:41] <Popeidol> he just doesn't learn
[03:56:47] <NezSez> ?
[03:56:47] <Cyprus> poor fred
[03:56:54] <NezSez> hola Cyprus
[03:56:59] <Cyprus> but he knew the job was dangerous when he took it
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[03:57:09] * Cyprus wonders if anyone even gets that reference
[03:57:13] <NezSez> who is fred?
[03:59:06] <NezSez> ah SC
[03:59:24] <NezSez> "What the fuck is an aluminum falcon???"
[03:59:56] <Cyprus> lol
[04:00:05] <Cyprus> points for the robot chicken
[04:00:11] <NezSez> :)
[04:00:15] <Cyprus> and my refrence was to super chicken
[04:00:20] <NezSez> yeah i know
[04:00:39] <NezSez> i was gonna do this s/S/Robot/
[04:00:48] <NezSez> but got distracted :)
[04:01:29] <NezSez> s/S/Robot/
[04:01:33] <Cyprus> hehe
[04:01:37] <NezSez> hrm....too late i guess
[04:01:41] <Cyprus> oh oh now hes crying
[04:01:47] <NezSez> LOL
[04:02:03] <NezSez> "oh wait I gotta take this..."
[04:02:10] <Popeidol> guys I just realised
[04:02:13] <NezSez> "Well I don't know, what are you having?"
[04:02:16] <Popeidol> if NezSez is always witnessing crimes in austin
[04:02:25] <Popeidol> he's probably the criminal
[04:02:36] <Popeidol> HE IS THE COMMON FACTOR
[04:02:53] <NezSez> I only stated that every time I've been in Austin, I've witnessed a crime
[04:02:53] <Cyprus> im laughing more at the fact he saw more crimes in austin than detroit
[04:03:12] <Popeidol> Cyprus: isn't detroit empty now?
[04:03:19] <Popeidol> you have to have people for there to be crimes
[04:03:21] <NezSez> I haven't seen any crimes in Detroit so far, hecka lotta bad driving though :)
[04:03:27] <Cyprus> lol
[04:03:41] <NezSez> i'm serious
[04:04:22] <NezSez> I moved to a burb due east of Detroit exactly one year and a day ago
[04:04:30] <BadCoderFinger> I have a friend that moved away from Detroit to get away from all the gunfire.
[04:04:52] <Cyprus> thats the trouble with inner city folk
[04:04:53] <NezSez> yeah everyone gives me a hardtime about actually moving here
[04:04:57] <Cyprus> never learned how to fing aim
[04:05:03] <NezSez> LOL
[04:05:27] <NezSez> I've seen some ridiculous stuff on the evening news here
[04:05:36] <NezSez> just nuthin myself personally yet :)
[04:06:02] <NezSez> I've seen a crime or two in Dallas
[04:06:40] <NezSez> pope: FTR yeah there is a whole buttload of vacant homes, bldgs in Detroit proper
[04:06:59] <NezSez> tagged, and some burned down from punk arsonists
[04:09:39] <BadCoderFinger> Time for my nightly dose of Blackadder. Night guys!
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[04:10:35] <NezSez> okay, I think I'm outta here too
[04:10:51] <NezSez> nighters pope, cyprus
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[05:30:16] <Admiral_coolbp> nice
[05:31:34] <Admiral_coolbp> poutine-- for good measure
[05:31:35] <Bender> karma - poutine: -321
[05:31:57] <Admiral_coolbp> when he get's to -1024 we all win
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[07:30:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What Do Soylents Do? - http://sylnt.us - the-story-of-us
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[07:37:58] <FoobarBazbot_> Bender: s/at(.* ).*/o\1supermodels-of-course/
[07:37:59] <SedBot> <FoobarBazbot_> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Who Do Soylents Do? - http://sylnt.us - supermodels-of-course
[07:39:28] <crutchy> SedBot: s/super/female super/
[07:39:28] <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <FoobarBazbot_> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Who Do Soylents Do? - http://sylnt.us - female supermodels-of-course
[07:41:28] <crutchy> SedBot: s/supermodels/borg drones/
[07:41:29] <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <FoobarBazbot_> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Who Do Soylents Do? - http://sylnt.us - female borg drones-of-course
[07:41:45] <Popeidol> is that in the user guide? I haven't read that
[07:42:14] <Popeidol> surely there aren't enough supermodels or borg drones to go around
[07:43:22] <crutchy> have to go to the delta quadrant for an excess of female borg drones
[07:45:00] <crutchy> or the koprulu sector... zerg queens aren't bad either
[07:46:04] <crutchy> SedBot: s/borg drones/dancing chicks from duke nukem 3D/
[07:46:04] <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <crutchy> <SedBot> <FoobarBazbot_> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Who Do Soylents Do? - http://sylnt.us - female dancing chicks from duke nukem 3D-of-course
[07:50:20] <FoobarBazbot_> Well, I was gonna point out that we have at least one female soylentil, but then I remembered Konomi does female supermodels/borgs/dancers, too.
[07:51:06] <FoobarBazbot_> Gay guys are just outta luck, though?
[07:51:52] <Konomi> eh?
[07:52:08] <Konomi> "does" ?
[07:53:19] <crutchy> surely a chicks arse kinda looks close enough to a guy's... especially when it's covered in cybernetic enhancements
[07:53:37] <Konomi> we could do a study
[07:54:07] <crutchy> are gay guys willing to do a borg chick?
[07:54:29] <Konomi> are strait guys willing to do a borg dude?
[07:54:32] <FoobarBazbot_> "do" = euphemism for fuck
[07:54:49] <FoobarBazbot_> maybe predominantly US
[07:55:25] <crutchy> not that there's anything wrong with that
[07:55:26] <FoobarBazbot_> Because when aussies mean fuck, they say fuck...
[07:55:44] <Konomi> if that was true there'd be a lot more sex going on
[07:55:49] <crutchy> but i fucking hate it when people fucking swear... fucking
[07:56:26] <Konomi> I have my moments for swearing there isn't many
[07:56:57] <crutchy> swearing is for bogans... and turtles that make cute sounds
[07:56:58] <Konomi> swearing is there for when I need an extra run to climb up my pissed off ladder
[07:57:23] <FoobarBazbot_> !grab Konomi
[07:57:23] <Bender> Added quote 23
[07:57:50] <crutchy> !quotes
[07:57:54] <crutchy> !quote
[07:57:54] <Bender> quote <ID/search string>
[07:57:58] <Konomi> groan
[07:58:01] <crutchy> !quote-list
[07:58:16] <crutchy> !echo $quotes;
[07:59:16] <FoobarBazbot_> only option is to !quote 1, !quote 2, etc.
[07:59:48] <Konomi> not enough options? there's a poll for that
[08:01:00] <crutchy> are there enough options? option 1: no i'm not a republican, option 2: people who like ice cream, option 3: insensitive clod is not an option
[08:01:13] <Konomi> everyone likes ice cream
[08:01:33] <crutchy> what about shit flavoured ice cream?
[08:01:41] <Konomi> no one makes that
[08:01:54] <crutchy> we all do after we eat ice cream
[08:02:15] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 1
[08:02:15] <Bender> Quote 1 - <NCommander> DarkMorph, because whenever I have to touch hashref's I want to stab my eyes out
[08:02:16] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 2
[08:02:16] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 3
[08:02:16] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 4
[08:02:16] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 5
[08:02:16] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 6
[08:02:17] <Bender> Quote 2 - <hax0rz> highlights, gold, they shine
[08:02:17] <Bender> Quote 3 - <soulde> :D
[08:02:17] <Bender> Quote 4 - <hax0rz> Hyper: go ahead, whatever your fetish is
[08:02:17] <Bender> Quote 5 - <soulde> I have friends that are better bots than Bender
[08:02:17] <Bender> Quote 6 - <mattie_p> 1 is an ongoing effort, and will not cease
[08:02:17] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 7
[08:02:17] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 8
[08:02:17] <Bender> Quote 7 - <NCommander> Dopefish, I handed him a 3k page novel, then told him that was short for one of my posts
[08:02:17] <Bender> Quote 8 - <hax0rz> in the internet, nobody knows you're a dog; nice try human ^^
[08:02:18] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 9
[08:02:18] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 10
[08:02:18] <Bender> Quote 9 - <arti> National Lampoons - Ethanol Fueld Thanksgiving
[08:02:18] <Bender> Quote 10 - <martyb> mattie_p: have interest in qa/test. I like the sound of editor, but my asbestos undies are of poor manufacture.
[08:02:19] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 11
[08:02:19] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 12
[08:02:19] <Bender> Quote 11 - <arti> oh, are quotes working?
[08:02:19] <Bender> Quote 12 - <hax0rz> arti: will i ever feel any special ^^
[08:02:20] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 13
[08:02:20] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 14
[08:02:20] <Bender> Quote 13 - <landon> ok, all good
[08:02:20] <Bender> Quote 14 - <Khyber> backed by physical asses, more like it.
[08:02:21] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 15
[08:02:21] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 16
[08:02:21] <Bender> Quote 15 - <SpallsHurgenson> as a nerd, I am unfamiliar with this thing you call "sunlight"
[08:02:21] <Bender> Quote 16 - <kobach> headaches--
[08:02:22] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 17
[08:02:22] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 18
[08:02:22] <Bender> Quote 18 - <FatPhil> I just tried to set via ssh my g/f's desktop image to that bacon in order to taunt her, but by command didn't work, and I ended up with it as my background image instead
[08:02:23] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 19
[08:02:23] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 20
[08:02:23] <Bender> Quote 19 - <juggs> any minute now.... someone will say something dumb that sees them in the saddle....
[08:02:23] <Bender> Quote 20 - <nobbis> vote early vote often
[08:02:24] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 21
[08:02:24] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 22
[08:02:24] <Bender> Quote 21 - <SpallsHurgenson> that sounded cleverer before I actually said it
[08:02:24] <Bender> Quote 22 - <BadCoderFinger> Ethanol-fueled: I'm not certain that's the answer to the "Prisoner's Dilemma"
[08:02:25] <Bender> Quote 17 - <nobbis> and that ladies and gentlemen is how the nerd news website was abandoned and they setup a goat porn site instead
[08:02:25] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 23
[08:02:25] <Bender> Quote 23 - <Konomi> swearing is there for when I need an extra run to climb up my pissed off ladder
[08:02:58] <Konomi> wow have some quote
[08:03:12] <FoobarBazbot_> ii++
[08:03:12] <Bender> karma - ii: 3
[08:03:18] <crutchy> that's some funny shat right thur
[08:03:44] <crutchy> i remember quote 18 :-P
[08:04:15] <crutchy> when kobach taunted us
[08:05:33] <crutchy> this is a line this is another line
[08:05:40] <crutchy> hmm
[08:05:56] <FoobarBazbot_> crutchy: actually those are on the same line
[08:06:17] <crutchy> how the hell did you output that so quick foobarbazb.... ah just figured it out
[08:06:50] <FoobarBazbot_> for loop, redirected output to irc.sylnt.us/\#soylent/in
[08:08:30] <FoobarBazbot_> but you could do it in e.g. irssi with copy/paste, if you're lame enough to be using such a client.
[08:09:10] <crutchy> or i could be even lamerer still and keep trying to find a magic command that outputs them all
[08:09:24] <crutchy> !upchuck-quotes
[08:10:16] <crutchy> !su
[08:10:18] <crutchy> bacon
[08:10:19] <crutchy> bacon
[08:10:44] <crutchy> #cat quotes
[08:10:49] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 1
[08:10:49] <Bender> Quote 1 - <NCommander> DarkMorph, because whenever I have to touch hashref's I want to stab my eyes out
[08:10:49] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 2
[08:10:49] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 3
[08:10:49] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 4
[08:10:49] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 5
[08:10:49] <Bender> Quote 2 - <hax0rz> highlights, gold, they shine
[08:10:49] <Bender> Quote 3 - <soulde> :D
[08:10:50] <Bender> Quote 4 - <hax0rz> Hyper: go ahead, whatever your fetish is
[08:10:50] <Bender> Quote 5 - <soulde> I have friends that are better bots than Bender
[08:10:50] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 6
[08:10:50] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 7
[08:10:50] <Bender> Quote 6 - <mattie_p> 1 is an ongoing effort, and will not cease
[08:10:50] <Bender> Quote 7 - <NCommander> Dopefish, I handed him a 3k page novel, then told him that was short for one of my posts
[08:10:51] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 8
[08:10:51] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 9
[08:10:51] <Bender> Quote 8 - <hax0rz> in the internet, nobody knows you're a dog; nice try human ^^
[08:10:51] <Bender> Quote 9 - <arti> National Lampoons - Ethanol Fueld Thanksgiving
[08:10:51] <crutchy> #dog quotes
[08:10:52] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 10
[08:10:52] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 11
[08:10:52] <Bender> Quote 10 - <martyb> mattie_p: have interest in qa/test. I like the sound of editor, but my asbestos undies are of poor manufacture.
[08:10:52] <Bender> Quote 11 - <arti> oh, are quotes working?
[08:10:53] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 12
[08:10:53] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 13
[08:10:53] <Bender> Quote 12 - <hax0rz> arti: will i ever feel any special ^^
[08:10:53] <Bender> Quote 13 - <landon> ok, all good
[08:10:54] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 14
[08:10:54] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 15
[08:10:55] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 16
[08:10:55] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 17
[08:10:55] <Bender> Quote 16 - <kobach> headaches--
[08:10:55] <Bender> Quote 17 - <nobbis> and that ladies and gentlemen is how the nerd news website was abandoned and they setup a goat porn site instead
[08:10:56] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 18
[08:10:56] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 19
[08:10:56] <Bender> Quote 18 - <FatPhil> I just tried to set via ssh my g/f's desktop image to that bacon in order to taunt her, but by command didn't work, and I ended up with it as my background image instead
[08:10:56] <Bender> Quote 19 - <juggs> any minute now.... someone will say something dumb that sees them in the saddle....
[08:10:57] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 20
[08:10:57] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 21
[08:10:57] <Bender> Quote 20 - <nobbis> vote early vote often
[08:10:57] <Bender> Quote 21 - <SpallsHurgenson> that sounded cleverer before I actually said it
[08:10:57] <Bender> Quote 14 - <Khyber> backed by physical asses, more like it.
[08:10:58] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 22
[08:10:58] <FoobarBazbot_> !quote 23
[08:10:58] <Bender> Quote 22 - <BadCoderFinger> Ethanol-fueled: I'm not certain that's the answer to the "Prisoner's Dilemma"
[08:10:58] <Bender> Quote 15 - <SpallsHurgenson> as a nerd, I am unfamiliar with this thing you call "sunlight"
[08:10:58] <Bender> Quote 23 - <Konomi> swearing is there for when I need an extra run to climb up my pissed off ladder
[08:11:15] <FoobarBazbot_> sry, forgot to remove the redirect
[08:12:24] <crutchy> i accidentally removed a memory leak from a php script this week. do i know exactly where it was? of course not
[08:13:26] <FoobarBazbot_> crutchy: for i in {1..23} ; do echo \!quote $i ; done >irc.sylnt.us/\#soylent/in
[08:15:24] <FoobarBazbot> oh, I see what you mean by magic command. I thought you were pondering how to generate them, thinking that I had generated the list manually.
[08:15:44] * FoobarBazbot is tired and his reading comprehension suffers
[08:16:55] <FoobarBazbot> g'night
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[09:36:39] * MrBluze has a look around
[09:41:19] * MrBluze drops a pin
[09:41:35] <Popeidol> shhhh
[09:41:44] <arti> :)
[09:42:50] * MrBluze jumps in fright
[09:42:50] <MrBluze> where did u two come from?
[09:43:09] <arti> catching up on my entertainment
[09:44:29] <MrBluze> it was quiet like this when the twin towers got hit .. nobody typed anything but were all watching cnn
[09:45:41] <MrBluze> crimea vote 96.7% in favour of joining Russia
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[09:45:51] <arti> :|
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[09:48:05] <MrBluze> yeah .. a bit of a worry
[09:48:22] <arti> glad i don't have any real estate there :>
[09:51:43] <MrBluze> russian troops have been massing along its european borders
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[09:52:55] <MrBluze> hi Konomi
[09:53:00] <Konomi> hey
[09:54:01] <MrBluze> how u doing
[09:54:37] <MrBluze> ... they think the malaysian aircraft actually landed
[09:55:47] <Subsentient> MrBluze: Hiyah
[09:56:21] <MrBluze> hey Subsentient
[10:11:07] <Subsentient> MrBluze: I have published the "baking" of my string library. It reimplements a lot of stuff because it's designed not to require stdlib.
[10:11:16] <Subsentient> http://github.com
[10:11:28] * MrBluze takes a look
[10:12:47] <MrBluze> it's tidy looking
[10:13:20] <Subsentient> MrBluze: heh
[10:13:24] * Alberto at PopCornTime
[10:13:56] * Subsentient pokes Alberto
[10:14:03] <Alberto> wut
[10:14:08] <Subsentient> derp.
[10:14:15] <Konomi> MrBluze: could be better I think I am sick
[10:18:29] <MrBluze> nah its good :)
[10:19:28] <MrBluze> Subsentient: string can get pretty long i guess
[10:19:44] <MrBluze> ohh Konomi thats no good
[10:19:49] <Subsentient> MrBluze: Hence the need for 'unsigned long'
[10:21:00] <Subsentient> I need at least 32 bits, and some platforms, for which SubStrings is targeted, use 16 bit int.
[10:21:09] <Subsentient> So, long it is.
[10:21:16] <MrBluze> yep
[10:21:44] <Subsentient> MrBluze: Now, I must try and work on my bot.
[10:22:01] <Subsentient> I am going to fix one thing in SubStrings, then I'll integrate SubStrings into the bot.
[10:22:13] <MrBluze> ah gocha
[10:23:34] <MrBluze> im not a security expert but the code looks ok
[10:23:52] <MrBluze> otoh im a bit tired lol
[10:23:56] <Konomi> MrBluze: it's a little worrying cause I feel fine 5 hours after I wake up then I get exhausted and end up laying down not sleeping just it's like my body gives out x.x
[10:24:44] <Subsentient> Konomi: Holy shit
[10:24:55] <Subsentient> And, your mind just quits working in the logical centers?
[10:26:13] <MrBluze> how long u been having that for?
[10:26:43] <Subsentient> MrBluze: I wake up like that and I only get work done when I forget how tired I am
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[10:27:33] <MrBluze> if u wake up tired, its a different problem from getting tired but waking up fine
[10:27:35] <TME520> Good (ugt) morning everyone
[10:27:43] <MrBluze> ugt morning to u too
[10:31:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NYPD Counsel Asserts Dept. FoI Manual is Confidential - http://sylnt.us - first-rule-about-FOIL
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[10:31:55] <prospectacle> hi. Good work on publishing your string library, Subsentient. i'm reading it...
[10:37:02] <MrBluze> brbish
[10:41:41] <prospectacle> It looks quite clean and straightforward. even I can understand it and I don't know c
[10:41:45] <Konomi> MrBluze: couple of weeks I think
[10:50:02] <Subsentient> prospectacle: thanks
[10:50:06] <Subsentient> prospectacle: Just pushed a commit
[10:50:46] <Subsentient> prospectacle: I prefer it that way. I strongly believe in readable code, even at high costs
[10:51:08] <Subsentient> because the actual, ahem, high costs come when you need to change something and you haven't done anything like it in weeks.
[10:51:15] <prospectacle> I like the pseudo object syntax, too. low calorie syntactic sugar
[10:51:21] <Subsentient> prospectacle: :^)
[10:51:57] <prospectacle> Did you speed test the "compare" alternative of comparing strings while counting them, instead of doing one then the other?
[10:52:37] <Subsentient> prospectacle: I have not speed tested the new SubStrings.Compare()
[10:53:05] <prospectacle> Probably someone who knows c better could say which would be faster without trying, but i wouldn't know unless I tested it.
[10:53:35] <Subsentient> prospectacle: Compare() is faster than NCompare(), and the new version is much faster than the old
[10:53:54] <Subsentient> I don't need to bench it to know that ;^)
[10:54:44] <prospectacle> Cool.
[10:55:03] <crutchy> do you use ini config format?
[10:55:11] <Subsentient> crutchy: Eh?
[10:55:15] <crutchy> [section]
[10:55:18] <crutchy> key=value
[10:55:25] <Subsentient> crutchy: for what?
[10:55:33] <crutchy> in your string library
[10:55:41] <prospectacle> Well, make sure you put a donation option somewhere early on (and a link to your website in the comments), cause if people start using it everywhere, they might want to fund its future dev.
[10:55:42] <crutchy> very handy to have config management
[10:55:54] <Subsentient> crutchy: No, the string library doesn't need any configuration at all
[10:55:56] <prospectacle> Looks like, as you say, the kind of thing you could easily plug-in to almost any project.
[10:56:22] <crutchy> no i mean to help build config into your program
[10:56:25] <prospectacle> Subsentient, I think crutchy means do you have functions for handling ini formatted text
[10:56:27] <Subsentient> prospectacle: I plan to plug it into my bot aqu4 as soon as I get it to where I want it
[10:56:41] <Subsentient> prospectacle: No.
[10:57:06] <Subsentient> I might add something like SubStrings.Line.GetKey() for that
[10:57:43] <crutchy> i made a polymorphic stringarray that had ini functionality in a descendent class
[10:57:56] <crutchy> it was my foray into ooptard-dom
[10:57:57] <crutchy> :-P
[10:58:10] <crutchy> it was delphi though
[10:58:23] <Subsentient> crutchy: In C, such things are a bit harder
[10:58:33] <crutchy> and it was probably no where near as quick as your stuff
[10:58:59] <Subsentient> crutchy: I am tired, and slow, and out of practice, so I am not writing very good code lately
[10:59:24] <crutchy> i like your init though
[10:59:41] <Subsentient> crutchy: Thanks, I love Epoch
[10:59:44] <Subsentient> it's one of my finest works
[10:59:54] <crutchy> i find i'm always loading config data when i make delphi programs... that's only reason why i asked
[11:00:30] <crutchy> i don't always use stringarray class i mentioned
[11:00:56] <crutchy> sometimes i just read into a tstringlist and parse manually
[11:01:17] <crutchy> projects often start quick and dirty
[11:01:39] <Subsentient> crutchy: I rarely if ever plan my project designs
[11:01:58] <Subsentient> When I started Epoch I knew I wanted a unified config file and little deps, so the rest just fell into place.
[11:02:08] <crutchy> most of my projects never really go anywhere, unless i use them at work
[11:02:22] <Subsentient> Same
[11:02:25] <MrBluze> Konomi: i can give u a consult in pm
[11:02:35] <Subsentient> However, I am hopeful for Epoch's future
[11:02:42] <prospectacle> If you can keep your scope clear and limited, design isn't a big deal. I find it hard to keep my scope clear and limited, though.
[11:02:45] <crutchy> git it
[11:03:04] <crutchy> ah hang on i think u did already
[11:04:35] <prospectacle> Well, gotta go. Keep up the good work everybody
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[11:11:00] <crutchy> i'm listening to bryan adams
[11:11:04] * crutchy hides
[11:27:10] <crutchy> fast forwards...
[11:27:13] <crutchy> Thomas Bergersen - Promise
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[11:28:33] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v janrinok] by what-if-i
[11:56:58] * NCommander runs in shouting
[11:57:04] * NCommander officially beat nethack: http://alt.org
[11:58:02] <Konomi> I thought nethack never ended?
[12:00:45] <chromas> That just shows you how good he is
[12:01:06] <Konomi> or how little I know about nethack ;p
[12:02:36] <NCommander> Konomi, I got the amulet and ascended into demigodhoodness
[12:02:42] * NCommander notes it was an assgripping finish
[12:03:04] * MrBluze claps
[12:03:21] <MrBluze> im taking an early night, i got a nasty headache
[12:04:17] <Konomi> I tend to jkust pop pain kilers when that happens
[12:04:29] <MrBluze> im out of them i just noticed
[12:04:44] <Konomi> hate that
[12:05:17] <Konomi> I keep like a bunch of medicines around generally
[12:05:26] <Konomi> I was going to do biology once
[12:05:30] <Konomi> but I faint too easily >.>
[12:05:56] <Konomi> teacher said he thought turning green was a saying until he seen my face apparently...
[12:06:31] * Subsentient pukes in Konomi's cereal
[12:06:38] <Konomi> it's not breakfast time
[12:06:43] <Konomi> and I have no cereal
[12:06:48] * Subsentient pukes in Konomi's chili
[12:06:55] * Subsentient stirs
[12:06:57] <Konomi> I don;'t hae that either
[12:07:10] * Subsentient pukes on Konomi
[12:07:16] <Konomi> going for broke?
[12:07:27] * Subsentient pukes into a black hole
[12:08:15] <Subsentient> Konomi: I am so tired I want to cry
[12:08:22] <Konomi> go to bed x.x
[12:08:25] <Subsentient> I am so tired of being exhausted day and night
[12:08:36] <Subsentient> I wake up exhausted, and I am exhausted for the entire day
[12:08:50] <Konomi> can I set him on fire now?
[12:09:23] * Subsentient chucks a nasty, rotten, flaming burrito at Konomi
[12:10:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk to the People of New Jersey - http://sylnt.us - the-law-versus-commonsense
[12:10:26] <Subsentient> Konomi: But seriously, be nice.
[12:10:39] <Konomi> being nice includes fire
[12:11:33] <Subsentient> Konomi: To be blunt, I find that pretend threat to be slightly offensive.
[12:12:13] <Konomi> pot kettle black
[12:12:20] <Subsentient> Konomi: Vomit != Fire
[12:12:22] <Subsentient> :^3
[12:12:34] <Konomi> subjective
[12:12:42] <crutchy> hi subsentient
[12:12:46] <Subsentient> Konomi: Should I set the vomit on fire?
[12:12:53] <Konomi> if you want
[12:12:53] <crutchy> yes
[12:13:00] <crutchy> definitely!
[12:13:02] <crutchy> hmm
[12:13:13] * Subsentient gets the flamethrower and a bucket of hobo upchuck
[12:14:04] <Subsentient> crutchy: Hi buddy. Are you ready for an evening of deranged insanity, with a side of complaining?
[12:14:28] * Subsentient is ironically listening to "No Rain" by Blind Melon
[12:14:42] <crutchy> vomitbacon.org is available =)
[12:14:58] <Subsentient> crutchy: I do not eat meat.
[12:15:10] <MrBluze> crutchy: .. we should put that up for a vote
[12:15:35] <crutchy> vomitbaconfree.org is available
[12:15:37] * Subsentient buys vomitbacon.org and offers to sell if for $10,000
[12:16:02] <MrBluze> damn, fallen for it again
[12:16:13] * MrBluze reluctantly coughs up
[12:16:26] <crutchy> baconplusplus.org is available
[12:16:41] <Subsentient> crutchy: B++?
[12:16:43] <Konomi> should've asked for 1 billllllion dollars
[12:17:06] <crutchy> bacon++
[12:17:06] <Bender> karma - bacon: 179
[12:17:14] <Subsentient> bacon = 0;
[12:17:29] <Konomi> what happned to the bacon counter ._.
[12:17:37] <Subsentient> bacon--
[12:17:37] <Bender> karma - bacon: 178
[12:17:39] <MrBluze> what about gotbacon.org
[12:17:42] <crutchy> this one hasn't been hacked
[12:18:03] <crutchy> gotbacon.org is available
[12:18:25] <TME520> bacon--
[12:18:26] <Bender> karma - bacon: 177
[12:18:27] <crutchy> morebacon.org is available
[12:18:36] <TME520> soymilk++
[12:18:36] <Bender> karma - soymilk: 1
[12:18:41] <TME520> ricemilk++
[12:18:41] <Bender> karma - ricemilk: 1
[12:18:45] <TME520> cowmilk--
[12:18:45] <Bender> karma - cowmilk: -1
[12:18:52] <MrBluze> dailybacon :) :)
[12:18:54] <Konomi> you hate bacon? shun the non believer shunnnn
[12:19:04] <crutchy> baconcafe.org is available
[12:19:14] <MrBluze> that'd be good for irc
[12:19:16] <MrBluze> baconcafe
[12:19:34] <crutchy> bacongeeks.org is available
[12:19:34] <TME520> Well...how can I say it...
[12:19:38] <Subsentient> hmm
[12:19:39] <TME520> I'm a vegetarian.
[12:19:40] <Konomi> biggest bacon servring: the heart attack
[12:19:42] <Subsentient> --bacon
[12:19:44] <Subsentient> bacon--
[12:19:44] <Bender> karma - bacon: 176
[12:19:46] <Subsentient> bacon--
[12:19:46] <Bender> karma - bacon: 175
[12:19:48] <Subsentient> Konomi: Hurr derp derp
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[12:20:12] <MrBluze> geekswithbacon
[12:20:18] <MrBluze> baconanonymous
[12:20:29] <Konomi> bacon strip of destiny?
[12:20:31] <TME520> veganbaconclub
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[12:20:45] <MrBluze> vegan.baconnews.org
[12:20:50] <Subsentient> bacon--
[12:20:50] <Bender> karma - bacon: 174
[12:20:52] <crutchy> noimbrianandsoismywife.org is available
[12:20:54] <Subsentient> bacon--
[12:20:54] <Bender> karma - bacon: 173
[12:21:14] <TME520> camembert++
[12:21:14] <Bender> karma - camembert: 1
[12:21:25] <Subsentient> is flaminghobovomit.org available?
[12:21:28] <Konomi> salad_fingers++
[12:21:28] <Bender> karma - salad_fingers: 1
[12:21:33] <MrBluze> makinbacon.org?
[12:21:35] <Subsentient> salad_fingers--
[12:21:35] <Bender> karma - salad_fingers: 0
[12:21:43] <crutchy> bacondilbert.org is available
[12:22:07] <crutchy> slashbacon.org is available
[12:22:09] <Subsentient> Hmm
[12:22:13] <Subsentient> goatsebacon.org?
[12:22:19] <MrBluze> Subsentient_is_trying_to_be_a_sociopath++
[12:22:19] <Bender> karma - subsentient_is_trying_to_be_a_sociopath: 1
[12:22:33] <Subsentient> Subsentient_is_trying_to_be_a_sociopath--
[12:22:33] <Bender> karma - subsentient_is_trying_to_be_a_sociopath: 0
[12:22:45] <MrBluze> or have u got ocd?
[12:22:47] <Subsentient> MrBluze: bs.
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[12:23:06] <Subsentient> MrBluze: As a matter of fact, yes, but not the form you're likely expecting
[12:23:11] <MrBluze> oh
[12:23:14] <Subsentient> Just suffice it to say, I know what pain is.
[12:23:16] <crutchy> occular circle diodes?
[12:23:20] <MrBluze> fair nuff
[12:23:31] <Subsentient> It played a role in the choice of my nick.
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[12:23:48] <MrBluze> i guess if I let myself, i'd zero every karma score so that everything is nice and smooth and even
[12:23:50] <crutchy> he's a programmer... comes with the turf
[12:24:03] * MrBluze gets in touch with his inner ocd
[12:24:10] <crutchy> lol
[12:24:15] * Subsentient pulls MrBluze back
[12:24:29] <Subsentient> MrBluze: I have Pure-O OCD.
[12:24:29] <MrBluze> noo.. must.. reach.. core...
[12:24:31] <Subsentient> Google it.
[12:24:31] <crutchy> once you go there mrbluze... there's no goin back
[12:24:41] * Subsentient pulls MrBluze back
[12:24:50] * Subsentient duct tapes MrBluze to a street light
[12:24:59] <crutchy> subsentient has Obsessive C Disorder
[12:25:10] <MrBluze> pure-o ocd .. sounds like a dishwashing liquid
[12:25:16] <Konomi> could be worse could be objective c disorder
[12:25:26] * crutchy shudders
[12:25:45] <Subsentient> MrBluze: It is, but it smells like terror and fetal position rather than lilac.
[12:25:53] <MrBluze> oh
[12:25:59] <MrBluze> nice
[12:26:08] <MrBluze> i think i know someone who had that ... dad
[12:26:14] * crutchy is very familiar with that smell
[12:26:16] <MrBluze> gave me the shits
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[12:26:43] <Subsentient> prospectacle: hi bud
[12:26:49] <Subsentient> got ideas for my lib?
[12:26:49] <prospectacle> "or as i like to called 'the oc disorder'" - tobias funke
[12:26:51] <prospectacle> Hi
[12:26:56] <MrBluze> although he didnt have any of that dodgy list of intrusive stuff
[12:27:10] <prospectacle> "don't call it that' - michael bluth
[12:27:13] <crutchy> could be worse... the 90210 disorder
[12:27:26] <MrBluze> crutchy: .. boob watch?
[12:27:27] <Subsentient> heh
[12:27:32] <Subsentient> boobs++
[12:27:32] <Bender> karma - boobs: 1
[12:27:33] <prospectacle> Subsentient: Crutchy's question about ini handling gave me an idea. The core string library is good on its own, and useful and small and lightweight, etc.
[12:27:40] <crutchy> 8008135++
[12:27:40] <Bender> karma - 8008135: 4
[12:27:53] * Subsentient pukes all over string.h
[12:27:58] <Konomi> "The Caffeine containing active ingredient combination keeps hair roots awake and contributes to extending their growth phases."
[12:28:01] <Konomi> coffee shampoo
[12:28:03] <Konomi> okay then
[12:28:10] <prospectacle> Subsentient: You could make some super-sets that use the core library, and do specific string tasks, like ini, xml, serialisation, etc. If you have any use for such things.
[12:28:12] * crutchy decides never to use strongs.h again due to puke smell
[12:28:15] <MrBluze> .. believe that, believe anything
[12:28:24] <MrBluze> caffeine.h
[12:28:25] <crutchy> lol strongs.h
[12:28:31] <Subsentient> prospectacle: I want something general purpose that provides python-like convenience.
[12:28:35] <crutchy> caffiene++
[12:28:35] <Bender> karma - caffiene: 1
[12:28:43] <crutchy> caffiene--
[12:28:44] <Bender> karma - caffiene: 0
[12:28:49] <MrBluze> coffeebacon.com
[12:28:49] <crutchy> caffeine++
[12:28:49] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 1
[12:28:54] <chromas> AnsiStrings++
[12:28:54] <Bender> karma - ansistrings: 1
[12:28:54] <prospectacle> Susbentient, I think you got it pretty much covered. Does it do this....
[12:29:05] <crutchy> strongs++
[12:29:05] <Bender> karma - strongs: 1
[12:29:08] <Subsentient> caffeine-+---+-+--*&E^@#*&^$@&^$*&#@^
[12:29:23] * Konomi wonders why it is so hard to find powdered coffee
[12:29:24] <MrBluze> don't click that link, it's highly random
[12:29:33] <prospectacle> Subsentient: loop through all occurences of a substring within a string, e.g. get_position("This string has lots of string instances of string in it", "string", 3);
[12:29:38] <MrBluze> Konomi: tea and coffe isle
[12:29:38] <prospectacle> or similar?
[12:29:41] <MrBluze> aisle
[12:30:01] <Konomi> MrBluze: I kinda want it to be something I can mix with a drink
[12:30:05] <Subsentient> prospectacle: That's easily done with the SubStrings.Find() function
[12:30:09] <prospectacle> caffeine++
[12:30:09] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 2
[12:30:10] <Konomi> not something htat has its own taste
[12:30:26] <MrBluze> Konomi: just nescafe, glass of cold milk, iceblocks
[12:30:36] <prospectacle> Subsentient: ok good. I only read it quickly.
[12:30:53] <Konomi> coffee and tea toothpaste
[12:30:53] <MrBluze> or soy, but make it extra cold cause it tastes like crap
[12:31:01] <Konomi> god I hate health food shops
[12:31:05] <Subsentient> prospectacle: It requires an argument for the search result number
[12:31:13] <Subsentient> So, what you describe is easy
[12:31:24] <prospectacle> makes sense
[12:31:26] <MrBluze> Konomi: .. u dont like the rainbow flag on the front and the smell of mouldy nuts and incense?
[12:31:40] <crutchy> ew mouldy nuts
[12:31:42] <Konomi> since when have health food shops turned gay?
[12:31:51] <MrBluze> fair few of em
[12:32:05] <crutchy> i think that implies lack of that thing in which you're referring konomi
[12:32:09] <prospectacle> well. I think honestly, you should publicise it somehow (somewhere more permanent than irc), and you'll get lots of feedback when people start using it. It definitely looks good enough to start using.
[12:32:23] <crutchy> moldy => lack of use (maybe?)
[12:32:30] <prospectacle> When you make your bot to use it, you could publish the bot as a sample app or something.
[12:32:38] <MrBluze> healthfood shops have a kind of 'look' .. kind of tacky/amateurish setup .. that attracts the customers
[12:32:48] <crutchy> my oh my i'm getting philosophical about moldy nuts
[12:33:15] <MrBluze> crutchy: they have to have oils and stuff burning 24/7 otherwise the smell is overpowering
[12:33:21] <Konomi> MrBluze: here they mostly are in the same store as the chemist
[12:33:27] <Konomi> which is why they upset me ;p
[12:33:35] <MrBluze> oh.. yeah that's annoying
[12:34:08] <prospectacle> Cider vinegar costs 3x as much in a health food store. Same brand.
[12:34:12] <Subsentient> afk all
[12:34:17] <crutchy> k
[12:34:31] <crutchy> i should get back to my table mapping thingy
[12:34:34] <MrBluze> crimea declares independnece
[12:34:55] <crutchy> baconindependnece.org
[12:35:16] <MrBluze> pro-tip: don't eat shit that comes in a packet .. just eat less, eat fresh, and u dont have to go waste money on a healthfood shop
[12:35:36] <MrBluze> freebacon.org
[12:35:37] <crutchy> pro-tip: don't eat shit
[12:35:54] <MrBluze> don't eat? .. shit
[12:35:55] <prospectacle> MrBluze, so what we're only supposed to eat actual food? That sounds hard. Can you even buy that anymore?
[12:35:56] <crutchy> it's really not good for you... apparently
[12:36:17] <MrBluze> prospectacle: it costs u, that's all
[12:36:49] <MrBluze> dont eat anything that wasn't killed whilst running away or gazing stupidly into the distance as it was chewing some grass
[12:37:02] <crutchy> running away makes tough
[12:37:03] <MrBluze> j/k .. who cares really
[12:37:11] <MrBluze> it does crutchy
[12:37:18] <crutchy> latter is better for tender
[12:37:20] <Konomi> can we eat humans?
[12:37:23] <Ingar> and promptly
[12:37:30] <Ingar> woops nvmd that
[12:37:31] <prospectacle> MrBluze, i often wonder if it would really be expensive to only eat real food. I mean sure it's more expensive per calorie, but most people eat way too many calories.
[12:37:32] <MrBluze> we can, Konomi, but it's not considered good manners
[12:37:41] <crutchy> don't want to shoot while animal is stressed
[12:37:58] <MrBluze> prospectacle: exactly .. its not much more - consider what ppl waste on cigarettes or whatever other idiotic thing they are into
[12:38:02] <crutchy> that's my slaughterhouse meat is so shit
[12:38:08] <MrBluze> crutchy: yep
[12:38:10] <crutchy> you want straight off the farm
[12:38:16] <MrBluze> hunters are the future
[12:38:20] <prospectacle> Problem is i like bread. Yum, sugar in sponge form.
[12:38:27] <Konomi> but they gaze off into the distance stupidly all the time ._.
[12:38:33] <MrBluze> a decent rifle with a silencer and a laser site
[12:38:33] <Konomi> don't eat much grass though
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[12:38:52] <MrBluze> thwop, thwop, thwop.. there's dinner forthe next 6 months
[12:38:54] <crutchy> my dad puts the steer he wants to freeze into the cattle yard on its own for a few days with lots of hay till it's happy, and then pops it from a reasonable distance
[12:39:00] <crutchy> lol
[12:39:05] <crutchy> dunno about the laser
[12:39:12] <MrBluze> crutchy: head shot every time
[12:39:34] <Konomi> that seems kinda sadistic
[12:39:41] <Konomi> "I'm happy and free whee" bang
[12:39:47] <MrBluze> Konomi: .. nah, slaughterhouses are sadistic
[12:39:52] <MrBluze> they are totally sick
[12:39:57] <prospectacle> I've never killed my own food. Not against the idea, in theory, but so far other people have been so eager to do it for me, and prepare and deliver it to a nearby store-house, so I let them.
[12:39:58] <crutchy> one 303 shell
[12:40:17] <MrBluze> bleeding an animal dry before killing it is sick
[12:40:20] <Konomi> x.x
[12:40:34] <crutchy> yeah makes for tough stringy meat too
[12:41:11] <MrBluze> Konomi: yeah but nature is like that .. animals live and die, they get hunted and die, and i nfact their brains are made to cope with it
[12:41:20] <Konomi> http://fc03.deviantart.net
[12:41:27] <Konomi> >.<
[12:41:28] <crutchy> i would hate to be the grass that cows eat
[12:41:37] <crutchy> getting slobbered all over with porridge
[12:41:41] <crutchy> :-P
[12:41:52] <MrBluze> lol
[12:41:53] <Konomi> bet you'd hate to be the grass they pooped on more
[12:42:02] <crutchy> would be nice and warm
[12:42:07] <crutchy> and good for your skin
[12:42:11] <crutchy> err... leafs
[12:42:13] <MrBluze> grass loves poop
[12:42:17] <Konomi> there are no words ;p
[12:42:42] <MrBluze> the greenest tufts are where there was poop
[12:43:09] <Konomi> I will be the first one in line to replace my body with a machine when possible urk ;p
[12:43:29] <crutchy> then you should take the blue pill
[12:43:38] <MrBluze> yeah i kinda like the idea of cyborg stuff over long distance
[12:43:55] <MrBluze> imagine playing table tennis with your friend 300km away
[12:43:57] <crutchy> kinky
[12:44:05] <MrBluze> .. yeah and that crutchy lol
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[12:44:32] <crutchy> have you ever seen animatrix?
[12:44:38] <crutchy> the one that shows the history?
[12:44:53] <prospectacle> Konomi, you want to be careful that each stage is a good trade though. I mean legs could be rough but still practical, but hands and face, you'd want a guarantee it would work just as well in all the little details.
[12:45:10] <crutchy> especially swearing
[12:45:17] <Konomi> I know what bits I'd want to keep in working order >.<
[12:45:29] * MrBluze grins
[12:45:33] <MrBluze> me too lol
[12:45:39] <Konomi> past that not much care ;p
[12:45:59] <prospectacle> Exactly. Some cyborg replacements are gonna take longer than others to get right, so you'd be a halfy for a while, if you jump at the first opportunity.
[12:46:12] <Konomi> I'm kinda worried for the day we can pick and choose that stuff to be honest\
[12:46:14] <prospectacle> Which is probably fine, most people would have a cyber-piece or two by that time.
[12:46:26] <crutchy> i don't reckon it will get that far
[12:46:27] <Konomi> I don't really see much limits to our species drive for vanity
[12:46:27] <MrBluze> if u lose your muscles
[12:46:32] <MrBluze> u become depressed
[12:46:38] <crutchy> we'll nuke ourselves to smithereens long before we get that smart
[12:46:47] <MrBluze> ppl are happier just left alone usually
[12:46:50] <prospectacle> I want to do my teeth first. Seems at some point, it will be cheaper to take them all out and put in good replacements, than to keep going to the dentist more and more often as time goes on.
[12:47:02] <MrBluze> prospectacle: .. u mean.. dentures?
[12:47:15] <Konomi> crutchy: I got dirty looks wjhen there was a scifi show on and I said "no mr alien kick the humans off there's already one stupid planet"
[12:47:25] <prospectacle> Well i was thinking like permanent implants. Something tough. Titanium maybe.
[12:47:31] <prospectacle> All the usefulness, none of the trouble.
[12:47:37] <MrBluze> crowns
[12:47:47] <crutchy> with automatic chewing
[12:47:55] <crutchy> :-)
[12:47:59] <prospectacle> lol
[12:48:01] * MrBluze is thinking MONA's faeces machine
[12:48:02] <Konomi> I wouldn't mind a wearable computer
[12:48:07] <MrBluze> that's a human, in summary
[12:48:07] <Konomi> then i could ignore people around me completely
[12:48:20] <prospectacle> Konomi. It seems good in theory, but how would you wear/use it?
[12:48:35] <Konomi> if south park designed it it'd probably be in your butt
[12:48:39] <prospectacle> Lots of stories recently about people being uncomfortable/agressive or feeling threatened around people wearing google glass
[12:48:52] <Konomi> prospectacle: I don't really want a camera
[12:48:58] <Konomi> I'mn not interested in the people arojnd me
[12:49:01] <crutchy> phew at least i wasnt first to mention it
[12:49:05] <Konomi> I want to tune them out not take photos of them ;p
[12:49:24] <Konomi> I live inb a town where it's mostly retires and crap
[12:49:24] <prospectacle> Konomi, well that will make it easier. Of course still need to be able to use your eyes for things around you or you're vulnerable/accident prone. So the visual experience may not be as good as just a screen.
[12:49:28] <MrBluze> Konomi: just OSD on your sunglasses
[12:49:47] <MrBluze> and a thing that tells u to turn left/right so u dont crash whilst walking
[12:49:48] <prospectacle> other than a vr machine in a private room. I have trouble seeing the benefit of a wearable computer
[12:49:54] <crutchy> konomi: better off just getting away from cities and suburbs
[12:49:58] <Konomi> prospectacle: sadly me too
[12:49:58] <prospectacle> If it's on your wrist/arm, then that just means you can only use one hand to use it.
[12:50:04] <Konomi> it's catch 22 for me
[12:50:16] <Konomi> it'd beed t obe embedded in your body to not have a burden
[12:50:24] <prospectacle> VR room would be cool though, no doubt. Until they invent full holodeck
[12:50:25] <Konomi> but then I am not putting anything like that in me
[12:50:31] <Konomi> cause I won't have any control over it for sure
[12:50:52] <prospectacle> Yeah implants are where it's at, but a couple of decades until that's feasible
[12:50:59] <crutchy> find a nice little town where people don't bother you
[12:51:12] <Konomi> crutchy: most little towns have old people
[12:51:24] <Konomi> and sadly most old people gave up learning and being intersting at 40-50
[12:51:43] <MrBluze> not all, Konomi
[12:51:44] <prospectacle> Any of you guys found the plane, yet?
[12:51:48] <crutchy> old people are ok if they leave you alone... and remember you'll be one soon enough
[12:51:49] <Konomi> that's why I said most ;_;
[12:51:54] <MrBluze> prospectacle: its probably in pakistan
[12:52:00] <Konomi> my psyschologist is like 70+ and awesome
[12:52:04] <crutchy> prospectacle: i'm googling for it
[12:52:12] <prospectacle> MrBluze, thanks, that will save me some time.
[12:52:18] <MrBluze> http://rt.com
[12:52:23] <crutchy> it's probably lost in the amazon.com
[12:52:39] <MrBluze> im off to bed :)
[12:52:40] <MrBluze> ciao ciao
[12:52:45] <crutchy> cya
[12:52:47] <prospectacle> see you
[12:52:47] <Konomi> night ~
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[12:54:07] <prospectacle> If you had to replace any one part with a robot part, what would it be?
[12:54:37] <crutchy> eyes
[12:54:40] <prospectacle> I guess I would do a leg. Seems low risk,
[12:54:41] <crutchy> mine suck
[12:54:55] <crutchy> i want night vision
[12:55:07] <crutchy> and predator mode
[12:55:07] <prospectacle> Hmm, yeah that would be pretty cool.
[12:55:16] <prospectacle> Maybe you can get them to add some lasers
[12:55:48] <prospectacle> when someone's like, what I can't see where you're pointing, you can go into laser mode and be like "right there"
[12:55:57] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[12:56:02] <crutchy> couldn't help myself
[12:57:55] <prospectacle> lol emo predator, I get it.
[12:58:41] <prospectacle> well, i'll catch you all later. be excellent to each other
[12:58:45] <crutchy> alien at the end... legend
[12:58:51] <crutchy> cya prospectacle
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[14:04:27] <weeds> "...why Tesla _doesn't_..."?
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[14:31:20] <crutchy> shit
[14:31:25] <Konomi> I still don't get how I make the list I don't even talk that much
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[14:43:47] <weeds> No wonder Khyber was upset.
[14:44:00] * Cyprus blinks
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[14:45:44] <LaminatorX> Good morning all. The submission queue is rather thin at the moment. If you've been meaning to submit a story, now would be a great time.
[14:46:45] <weeds> "Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor not an editor" :)
[14:47:46] <crutchy> Subsentient has some awesome public domain code that could go in an article (if he ok with that)
[14:48:22] <crutchy> Or you could scrape journals if you get real desperate
[14:51:32] <crutchy> What we really need is something flameworthy... like another soylent scandal. The "what do you do" one wasn't too bad though
[14:54:08] <crutchy> 1am. Sleepy time
[14:54:50] <dx3bydt3> Time for a first story submission I guess.
[14:55:28] <Bender> [ksuhku] drama++
[14:55:32] <Bender> [!] karma - drama: 2
[14:55:37] <Bender> [ksuhku] doubleplus good
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[14:59:50] <LaminatorX> Breaking News: Richard Stallman spotted on grassy knoll with Princess Di, What happened next will shock you...
[15:00:58] <Konomi> obviously taught her how to use emacs
[15:02:32] <Cyprus> lol
[15:04:59] <weeds> :-)
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[15:10:26] <d33tah> Bender--
[15:10:27] <Bender> karma - bender: -12
[15:10:31] <d33tah> good, good.\
[15:10:34] <d33tah> C++
[15:10:34] <Bender> karma - c: 14
[15:10:36] <d33tah> beta--
[15:10:37] <Bender> karma - beta: -15
[15:10:44] <d33tah> d33tah++
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[16:11:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sugru, the Maker Community "Wonder Material" - http://sylnt.us - Kilkenny-Flubber
[16:39:48] <weeds> "theOrcaleOfBacon" new site name!
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[16:56:12] <TK> I hope you meant oracle
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[16:59:00] <dx3bydt3> The story submission title in the form is limited to 50 characters, do the titles actually have to be kept under this?
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[17:03:06] <Popeidol> dx3bydt3: I don't believe so, but I'm not 100% on it
[17:03:37] <Popeidol> there seem to be a few titles that creep in over 50 characters but I have no idea the process behind it
[17:04:30] <dx3bydt3> I expect the editors haven't got the same limitations.
[17:05:05] <Popeidol> it's been mentioned and probably even filed as a bug report
[17:05:37] <Popeidol> but given it's slash, it probably relies on a hard limit of 50 characters in a whole bunch of weird ways throughout the process
[17:06:43] <Popeidol> I'd just leave a note to the editor at the start of your submission with the full headline, and then they can do as they will with it
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[17:19:26] <mattie_p> We'll probably just edit it down to fit. I know I've encountered the cap before and had to work around it
[17:20:29] <mrcoolbp> mattie_p: I got to run to work, I'll be on around 10:30pm EST
[17:20:42] <mattie_p> mrcoolbp understood,
[17:20:55] <mattie_p> I'm wrapping up some work right now, available most of the afternoon I think
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[17:26:38] <dx3bydt3> is there some trick to putting links in submissions? I put in some links and the URLs got this added at the beginning: http://soylentnews.org
[17:26:59] <dx3bydt3> and this: &%23226;&%238364; at the end.
[17:28:40] <dx3bydt3> I presume there is a correct way to format it where this doesn't happen. I just did this: <a href="URL">link text</a>
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[17:44:56] <stderr> dx3bydt3: What URL?
[17:47:15] <dx3bydt3> I had a link to an article, and one to a wikipedia page, a prefix/suffix ended up on both.
[17:47:34] <dx3bydt3> I'll paste the exact example:
[17:48:21] <dx3bydt3> this is what I had in my submission: <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostracod> Ostracod</a>
[17:49:31] <dx3bydt3> this is the link once submitted: http://soylentnews.org
[17:50:21] <stderr> Submitted as plain old text or HTML formatted?
[17:50:27] <dx3bydt3> HTML
[17:50:57] <stderr> ain't "
[17:55:24] <stderr> So the parser sees <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostracod> Ostracod</a> as <a href= (some unicode character) http://en.wikipedia.org (some unicode character) > Ostracod</a> Since that ain't an absolute URL it is prefixed with http://soylentnews.org and the complete URL is then enclosed in " so everything becomes <a href="http://soylentnews.org/ (some unicode character) http://en.wikipedia.org
[17:55:24] <stderr> ki/Ostracod (some unicode character) "> Ostracod</a>
[17:55:52] <dx3bydt3> Ha, I didn't see that, thanks, copy paste stupidity.
[17:55:58] <stderr> So the trick to putting links in submissions is to NOT use unicode characters for the "... :-)
[17:56:09] <dx3bydt3> No trick there indeed.
[18:21:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Planet Mercury is Slowly Shrinking - http://sylnt.us - Gone-With-The-Solar-Wind
[18:22:46] <Bender> [ksuhku] syntax kills more people annually than malaria
[18:26:43] <dx3bydt3> that conceivably could be true.
[18:26:58] <dx3bydt3> I just did a google search to see if there was a statistic for deaths attributed to faulty code.
[18:27:15] <dx3bydt3> I haven't found one though.
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[18:48:54] <stderr> How about blogging accidents? https://xkcd.com
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[19:07:17] <n1> zzzz
[19:11:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Data and Journalism: 538 is Back - http://sylnt.us - applied-statistics
[19:20:11] <weeds> TK: drat
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[20:51:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ancient Crustacean Fossilized with Eggs - http://sylnt.us - no-one-loves-you-like-your-mother
[21:02:25] * FoobarBazbot_ assumed that was the idea from the beginning, it just never came up...
[21:02:59] * FoobarBazbot_ eats a pound of bacon, smokes a pound of hash?
[21:03:06] <xlefay> FoobarBazbot_: wrong channel rofl
[21:03:14] <janrinok> lol
[21:03:14] <FoobarBazbot_> dammit
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[21:07:37] <weeds> Gravity waves have been detected that confirm the expansion period of the big bang. This is a pretty big deal. I submitted a story, but it wasn't good enough (no worries) but we should have a story posted ont this.
[21:08:02] <xlefay> Didn't I see a story regarding the big bang?
[21:08:28] <xlefay> guess not, hmm.. wonder why it was rejected
[21:09:31] <xlefay> janrinok: you know why it was rejected? do editors leave a note if they reject things?
[21:09:39] <weeds> I would like to know, I'd gladly rework it. It's good news and I'd like to see it on Soylent.
[21:10:04] <xlefay> I agree
[21:10:28] <weeds> No they don't. why. And like I said, I'm not complaining. I'd gladly rework it.
[21:10:58] <weeds> If it was written like these chats... :0
[21:11:16] <xlefay> If there's a note you/we could figure out why and you could rewrite in way it'll get accepted ;-)
[21:11:21] * xlefay thinks there should be notes.
[21:11:22] <stderr> xlefay: Maybe we got a DMCA from CBS asking us to take down any page related to The Big Bang Theory?
[21:11:37] <xlefay> rofl
[21:11:53] <weeds> +stderr: :)
[21:12:31] <stderr> Maybe it was just removed from the "firehose" and put in the "to be published later" queue?
[21:13:06] <stderr> Or are we publishing stories ASAP now, like some of us wanted?
[21:13:15] <xlefay> think we're back on a queue :/
[21:13:38] <stderr> Then I guess that's the explanation.
[21:13:55] <stderr> Or ask in #editorial, if anyone is there...
[21:14:06] <weeds> It was rejected. Like I said, not complaining. Just like to see it get up there somehow.
[21:14:28] <weeds> How do I get to #editorial?
[21:14:38] <stderr> /join #editorial
[21:15:00] <janrinok> xlefay: sorry, I was away - let me read what you have asked...
[21:15:02] <stderr> Is this what we're talking about? http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:48] <janrinok> weeds - yes, I can explain. There is already a story queued for 21:15 on the same topic
[21:15:51] <stderr> Link to Story -> "Nothing for you to see here. Please move along."
[21:15:53] <xlefay> That's a relatively short summary... it'd get a ts;dr from me.
[21:15:56] <stderr> Hmm...
[21:17:03] <xlefay> stderr: guess that answers that... queue is back
[21:17:17] <xlefay> janrinok: any reason for the queue being back?
[21:17:18] <stderr> Does that message mean that something will show up later (e.g. at 21:15)?
[21:17:53] <janrinok> xlefay I don't understand your wquestion
[21:18:04] <stderr> http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:20] <stderr> http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:39] <janrinok> yes due for release at 21:15 UTC. Weeds' story arrived just as I processed this one.
[21:18:42] <xlefay> so we'll have to wait an hour or so for the next story. | janrinok: a while back ago stories were queued; then they were posted as they came.. now we're back on the queue if I understand correctly, why is that?
[21:18:54] <xlefay> s/back //
[21:18:54] <SedBot> <xlefay> so we'll have to wait an hour or so for the next story. | janrinok: a while ago stories were queued; then they were posted as they came.. now we're back on the queue if I understand correctly, why is that?
[21:19:24] <janrinok> Because if you look at the length of the queue, we only have a few stories, not enough to see us through the next 12 hours. I'm currently not editing but providing submissions.
[21:20:28] <xlefay> Is there a required number of submissions before they get published as soon as they're spotted by an editor?
[21:20:30] <janrinok> We are getting critical at the submissions stage. If we have more than 20, we release as they come in. Approx 10-20 we release them staggered so as to keep the site active. Less than 10, we start trying to find more material.
[21:21:11] <xlefay> Answering my question within a second, that's quite the achievement! Thanks ;-)
[21:21:32] <janrinok> We are editing as fast as 'good' stories come in. Some are dupes, some haven't got enough meat in them, others are copies from other sites etc.
[21:21:41] <weeds> Thank you for the explanation. :)
[21:21:54] <janrinok> Sorry weeds, nothing personal!
[21:22:08] <xlefay> I'll be sitting and waiting at #rss-bot for possible new leads then.
[21:22:27] <weeds> no worries
[21:22:40] <stderr> I just wish it was ASAP no matter how many is in queue... Like the people wanted: http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:01] <stderr> And I'll be going to the store to get some cola...
[21:23:15] <xlefay> stderr: agreed, waiting for new stories sucks badly. People will submit stories if they notice there's nothing or little in the queue anyway.
[21:23:39] <janrinok> Yes, but then we get emails in the middle (my) night saying that there is nothing going out. I have to queue them while I am here, not wake up every hour to release a story. We NEED more eds and many more submissions.
[21:24:21] <xlefay> Anyone interested in becoming an editor? /join #editorial and bug the voiced/opped people there ;-)
[21:24:38] <janrinok> xlefay: I wish people would submit more - but many don't even look at the size of the queue. For around 4000 members, only a very small number actually submit anything.
[21:25:36] <xlefay> I haven't even submitted anything yet but that's mostly because my English sucks, but juggs|afk's bot certainly makes it easier to find stories that may be of interest (check out #rss-bot )
[21:26:32] <stderr> https://twitter.com
[21:26:41] <stderr> And _NOW_ I'm going to the store...
[21:26:46] <janrinok> xlefay: thx - but I cannot be a reported and editor at the same time. Furthermore, for obvious reasons, we discourage editing our own submissions. That rather defeats the checks and balances of the system.
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[21:26:52] <xlefay> stderr++ LOL
[21:26:52] <Bender> karma - stderr: 35
[21:27:50] <xlefay> janrinok: did those submission guidelines get posted to the wiki yet?
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[21:31:02] <janrinok> Not yet because I haven't managed to contact GungnirSniper - no response to my msge yesterday evening.
[21:31:38] <janrinok> But, to be honest, I'll accept any submissions with good content, regardless of how they are formatted, at the moment.
[21:31:52] <janrinok> xlefay: ^
[21:32:58] <xlefay> you tried sending him a memo?
[21:33:18] <janrinok> no - on what system?
[21:33:29] <xlefay> /msg memoserv send gungnirsniper message
[21:33:45] <janrinok> thx, I'll try that.
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[21:35:23] <janrinok> hi robind
[21:46:06] <crutchy> i don't keep up with news lately
[21:46:25] <janrinok> crutchy: as random statements go, that was a good one!
[21:46:30] <crutchy> i don't even really know much about that malasian plane, except that they are still looking for it
[21:46:48] <crutchy> lol sorry i'm probably just very late to the party
[21:47:00] <janrinok> The problem is nobody seems to know much about the malaysian plane!
[21:47:11] * crutchy was reading conversation before
[21:47:25] <crutchy> maybe it doesn't exist
[21:47:36] <janrinok> Oh good - I thought that I was in a time-warp
[21:47:44] <crutchy> lol
[21:48:50] * crutchy shouldn't chat just after reading log from previous night
[21:50:44] <crutchy> is there any admin functions that editors (or others) can analyze popularity of certain types of stories, sources, keywords, topics, etc?
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[21:52:39] <paulej72> crutchy: not that I am aware of
[21:53:13] <mechanicjay> I think I've noted that that the random "Science!" articles seem to generate relatively fewer comments than code/tech related stuff.
[21:53:17] <crutchy> hi paulej :-)
[21:53:29] <crutchy> hi mechanicjay
[21:53:35] <mechanicjay> yo
[21:54:33] <mechanicjay> Although, the current front-page sort of belies that
[21:54:40] <crutchy> topics posed as questions are probably more likely to get a response too
[21:54:46] <paulej72> crutchy: well met me admen my last statement, each story has a total view count and total number of posts. this could be used for analysis.
[21:55:11] <crutchy> i used to love to "Ask Slashdot" stories
[21:55:57] <paulej72> most people would respond to an ask slashdot with why should we google that for you
[21:56:26] <mechanicjay> paulej72: well there are good questions and bad questions, right?
[21:56:33] <crutchy> even the "what do you do" story got a few, even though the first post probably degraded the conversation to something less meaningful (even though it was probably true)... articles like that are entertaining to read
[21:56:38] <mechanicjay> Bad: What should I use to do X?
[21:56:54] <crutchy> it's not so much that question that was important
[21:57:00] <paulej72> yes there are good an bad questions, most on /. seemed to be questionable
[21:57:03] <mechanicjay> Good: I'm trying to do X and am torn between solution Y and solution Z, what are the relative merits of each?
[21:57:05] <crutchy> it was the conversation triggered from it
[21:57:13] <FoobarBazbot_> crutchy: well, yes, because in addition to the actual replies, you get all the Betteridgisms.
[21:57:19] <crutchy> lol
[21:57:33] <crutchy> sometimes people come up with a better question in the comments
[21:57:41] <paulej72> crutchy: the what do you do story was a bit weak in my opinion, I would not have posted it.
[21:57:50] <crutchy> i liked it
[21:57:52] <crutchy> :-)
[21:57:55] <mechanicjay> me too
[21:58:05] <mechanicjay> I haven't had a chance to respond to it yet though
[21:58:06] <crutchy> not so much for the question
[21:58:20] <crutchy> just for the chance to read some funny comments
[21:58:35] <mechanicjay> crutchy: right, it was clear to me that it was going to generate some good comments
[21:58:44] <crutchy> you always find gems in any kind of flamebait topic :-P
[21:58:56] <Cyprus> theres a good site name
[21:58:59] <Cyprus> flamebait.com
[21:59:01] <crutchy> lol
[21:59:12] <paulej72> I think it was an OK question, but I think it needed a better summary
[21:59:13] <crutchy> it's probably already a porn site
[21:59:38] <crutchy> paulej: probably, but i don't tend to read TFS/TFA anyway :-P
[21:59:55] <crutchy> if i can't get what i want from the title i probablywon't even click on it
[22:00:01] <mechanicjay> flamebait.com is actually just a parked domaain.
[22:01:40] <crutchy> that's why question topics are good, cos you can get a conversation going without much of a summary
[22:02:02] <Cyprus> crutchy: s/good/lazy/
[22:02:02] <SedBot> <Cyprus> <crutchy> that's why question topics are lazy, cos you can get a conversation going without much of a summary
[22:03:09] <crutchy> lol, yes, but i'll be the first to admit i'm lazy when it comes to entertaining myself
[22:03:23] <crutchy> i'm sure others would too
[22:03:37] <Cyprus> I admit you're lazy as well
[22:03:50] <crutchy> omg you know me so well :-P
[22:04:57] <janrinok> paulej72: Thx for posting stories last night.
[22:05:07] <crutchy> does anyone come to soylent for any other reason than entertainment?
[22:05:17] <crutchy> maybe i'm the oddball
[22:05:34] <crutchy> ha no doubt i'm an oddball
[22:05:47] <paulej72> janrinok: np, luckily I had some good submissions to choose from
[22:06:21] <janrinok> I'm busy trying to get ahead and queue some up in case the same thing happens tonight.
[22:07:03] <janrinok> But I am hoping that someone will log on soon because I'm due to be off in about 30 minutes or so.
[22:08:20] <crutchy> if anyone does any slash development, a quick submission summarising what happened would be interesting
[22:08:42] <crutchy> well, for me anyway cos i like that sort of stuff
[22:09:11] <Cyprus> what happened?
[22:09:53] <crutchy> empty queue i think
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[22:10:00] <paulej72> crutchy: I have a bunch of new fixes in the queue, but I have been waiting for NCommander to return so he can get them on the site.
[22:10:01] <janrinok> Cyprus: After I left last night no-one appears to have replaced me in the ed slot
[22:10:14] <janrinok> The stories dried up.
[22:10:27] <crutchy> i think i seen some of those on github
[22:10:33] <Cyprus> yeah sorry meant that for crutchy, my understanding was there was not a technical problem, but a people one
[22:10:42] <janrinok> lol OK
[22:10:51] <paulej72> crutchy: unfortunately for you I really suck at writing, I could try to come up with something, but no promises.
[22:11:06] <crutchy> nah not saying you should
[22:11:10] <crutchy> just an idea
[22:11:59] <paulej72> now NCommander on the other hand can write your ears off.
[22:12:07] <crutchy> if i were able to code perl (i can't yet to save myself) i might be able to jot down some notes kinda like i do in my journal (except more relevent to the site)
[22:12:30] <crutchy> haha
[22:12:34] <crutchy> yeah i noticed
[22:13:03] <crutchy> he seems to know slash pretty well though
[22:13:48] <paulej72> crutchy: I have not coded in perl for 10 years, and except for a few lines so far for SN, I rally have not done any. I have mostly been fixing html, css, and some of the templates that do have perl.
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[22:14:30] <crutchy> i must admit i'm starting to see that the slash template system is pretty powerful
[22:15:21] <paulej72> crutchy: to get slash working, NCommander had to work through a bunch of crap. This gave him a really good understanding of the back end slash code. I started on the other side wrong on the css and templates.
[22:15:26] <Cyprus> i wish i had the time / ambition to dive into the slash code
[22:17:03] <FoobarBazbot_> paulej72: wrong on the css and templates.
[22:17:09] <FoobarBazbot_> sounds like a political ad
[22:17:28] <paulej72> crutchy: slash templates would be great, if they did not mix stuff between the slash perl modules, the perl pages that do the html stuff and the template in illogical ways. There is even comments from past programmers saying stuff like this should be in the template on the perl module
[22:17:33] <crutchy> i only scratched around the surface a bit, looking at various files and trying to connect some dots (out of many that i still haven't connected no doubt)
[22:18:37] <paulej72> FoobarBazbot_: should have been working not wrong, dumb auto correct on MacOS. I should turn it off, but then my spelling would be really horrible.
[22:19:00] <crutchy> yeah it seems like out could be a bit better set up, but it no doubt evolved from something simple to begin with... i know my projects tend to reach a point where a lot of refactoring is required for it to make any sense
[22:19:01] <FoobarBazbot_> yeah,I guessed that.
[22:20:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Primordial Gravitational Waves Detected - http://sylnt.us - shall-I-wave-back?
[22:20:29] <crutchy> maybe we need a slash refactoring party :-P
[22:24:02] <Cyprus> eh i dont know, for perl, i've seen much worse than what slash looks like
[22:24:29] <crutchy> the code itself looks ok i thought
[22:24:46] <mechanicjay> The code itself isn't bad, its some of the architecture that's a bit questionable.
[22:25:01] <crutchy> but on a higher (sort of application) level could be improved to help maintainability
[22:25:10] <crutchy> yeah what mechanicjay said :-P
[22:25:25] <Cyprus> it looks like organically grown hacker perl from the bits ive seen
[22:25:47] <crutchy> code formatting generally looks ok i found
[22:26:00] <crutchy> little bit higgledypiggledy in some files
[22:26:06] <crutchy> prolly depends who edited
[22:26:12] <mechanicjay> yeah, figure it was a completely custom application from the get go -- considering that, it's really not too bad, I guess -- It could be a lot worse.
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[22:26:34] <crutchy> yeah could be asp
[22:27:00] <paulej72> the problem with the code is it look sane at first glance, but once yo start digging down, you realize that a hoard of rabid monkeys could do a better job of coding it.
[22:27:08] <Cyprus> lol
[22:27:27] <paulej72> The early stuff is sane, but the additions were poolly thought out an implemented
[22:27:48] <crutchy> i think that's probably a git mentality
[22:27:49] <LaminatorX> There are currently three unqueued stories in the submission bin. This is the lowest they've been since we opened.
[22:27:59] <paulej72> There is a plugin architecture, but it is not real plugin architecture.
[22:28:12] <crutchy> get tends to pidgeonhole things a bit much i reckon
[22:28:19] <crutchy> s/get/git/
[22:28:20] <SedBot> <crutchy> git tends to pidgeonhole things a bit much i reckon
[22:28:42] <paulej72> The plugins write code throughout the codebase and are horribly interdependent.
[22:28:43] <FoobarBazbot_> fat_porn_pidgeons++
[22:28:43] <Bender> karma - fat_porn_pidgeons: 8
[22:29:04] <janrinok> LaminatorX: One of them is mine - I don't want to ed my own submission
[22:29:13] <Cyprus> that sounds awesome
[22:29:20] <crutchy> i kinda like aspects of the plugin/template system
[22:29:37] <paulej72> rule 34 on fat_porn_pidgeons?
[22:29:52] <crutchy> seems pretty good way to build in extensibility and separate code from content
[22:30:07] <crutchy> problem is templates aren't all in one spot
[22:30:26] <paulej72> no they are not each plugin has its own
[22:30:45] <crutchy> i hate the directory structure
[22:30:50] <paulej72> but some of the plugin templates are in the main template folder
[22:31:23] <paulej72> directory is a bit convoluted to say the least
[22:31:24] <Cyprus> im actually suprised how complicated it is under the hood, considering the site itself is basically a summary overview page, and articles with nested comments and visibility based on a pretty simple mod system
[22:31:25] <crutchy> and some of the js files are in plugin/images folders
[22:32:13] <crutchy> i think slash is intended to be the foundation of something big and extensible.... kind of an ERP CMS or something
[22:32:51] <Cyprus> crutchy: yeah, ambition can be evil when not tempered =)
[22:32:51] <crutchy> i'm sure the code for pipedot is much simpler, but probably doesn't have the extensibility features
[22:32:53] <paulej72> Cyprus: we have half of the modules that are installed in an non functional state. the Ajax module did not have any JS so we could not do D2. Same with firehose. There are a few others.
[22:33:03] <crutchy> Cyprus: definitely
[22:33:41] <Cyprus> ouch, so the backend is there but no frontend?
[22:33:47] <Cyprus> that's frustrating
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[22:34:03] <paulej72> the bad thing is some of the main functions of the site liv in the database, but there is no admin functions to edit them in an easy way. Need to hit the db directly with mysql
[22:34:41] <crutchy> cya guys... skool dropoff and work etc
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[22:36:03] <paulej72> Cyprus: and to top it off we had to have the modules installed because of interdependencies for modules we did need.
[22:36:17] <Cyprus> nice
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[22:41:44] <Cyprus> pipe is looking decent now, gotta give them that
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[22:52:31] <combatserver> So. I hear Khyber derailed. Any good quotes?
[22:54:36] <janrinok> combatserver: No I missed it all as well. He comes back to complain in the comments from time-to-time
[22:55:24] <mechanicjay> Okay, I'm trying to post a comment on the site, and I want just a line break -- a line of white space. Why can I not make this happen?
[22:55:25] <Cyprus> awww i missed Khyber drama?
[22:55:56] <janrinok> mechanicjay: are you posting as html or plain text?
[22:56:00] <mechanicjay> html
[22:56:14] <janrinok> I normally just use </p><p>
[22:56:22] <combatserver> Mechanicjay--I lost the ability to make paragraph breaks as well.
[22:56:24] <mechanicjay> yeah, not working -- also strippingout <br>
[22:56:29] <paulej72> mechanicjay: are you set to html or plain text
[22:56:38] <combatserver> Neither works
[22:56:39] <janrinok> paulej72: html ^
[22:56:54] <paulej72> if plain text just leave a blank line
[22:57:04] <combatserver> Me thinks someone took the "no whitespace!" thing a little too far.
[22:57:24] <mechanicjay> but I'm doing some other html list formatting
[22:57:26] <paulej72> lameness filter is lame?
[22:57:36] <janrinok> It worked for me an hour or two ago - I don't think anything has changed?
[22:57:38] <combatserver> Someting like that...
[22:57:39] <paulej72> I have a fix in the queue for that.
[22:57:59] <mechanicjay> yeah, it worked for me this morning.
[22:58:11] <janrinok> It doesn't like leaving spaces in lists
[22:58:14] <combatserver> I can get a single line break, but if I try putting two blank lines in there to highlight a link, no go.
[22:58:25] <paulej72> the template with the lameness filters messages is broken, once fixed it show the correct messages
[22:58:47] <Cyprus> lol
[22:58:51] <mechanicjay> lame
[22:58:59] <combatserver> Not allowing for more than one line paragraph breaks leads to "walls of text" issues.
[22:59:06] <Cyprus> error: also there was an error presenting the error
[23:00:01] <janrinok> Unfortunately - I've got to go. CU guys tomorrow?
[23:00:10] <paulej72> later janrinok
[23:00:14] <combatserver> Ciao!
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[23:00:55] <mechanicjay> LOL!!!! : http://www.rollingstone.com
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[23:11:45] <paulej72> looks like a ship to me
[23:20:55] <mechanicjay> alright, later gents.
[23:20:59] <xlefay> tc mechanicjay ;-)
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