#Soylent | Logs for 2014-03-16

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[00:07:53] <paulej72> ECHO echo echo
[00:08:05] <arti> you need a recursive echo
[00:08:29] <paulej72> sort of hard to doe with just text
[00:08:38] <arti> all code is just text :P
[00:08:52] <arti> how's it going paulej72?
[00:09:02] <paulej72> I code with the raw bits :)
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[00:09:23] <paulej72> I am battling a cold right now
[00:09:26] <arti> at least you code, i'm a translator for others usually via email or phonecalls.
[00:09:30] <paulej72> how are you doing arti
[00:09:39] <arti> bummer, what kind? head cold? fever?
[00:09:43] <arti> cough?
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[00:10:07] <paulej72> started as chest cold with cough and has moved into my head
[00:10:19] <paulej72> normally I get them in the reverse order
[00:10:25] <arti> i typically get super congested, i'll take fevers over mouth breathing
[00:10:47] <arti> make sure you get lots of rest :)
[00:11:37] <paulej72> I don't know about that the other night I woke up with the chills and had to get more covers. A few hours later I was super hot and had to throw most of them off
[00:12:14] <paulej72> yes I have been napping parts of today to catch up
[00:12:16] <arti> well hopefully it'll clear up in the next few days. i'm usually down a bout a week
[00:12:21] <andrew> Maybe your heat is going wonky with the warmer weather, that's what happening to me and our old house with radiator heat.
[00:12:54] <arti> either that or you're in the matrix and someone is fucking with you
[00:13:06] <paulej72> my heat sucks all of the time, my room is usually around 63F
[00:13:42] <arti> beats having the hottest room i guess
[00:13:50] * arti would rather freeze than burn
[00:14:26] <paulej72> once you get used to the colder temperature it is easier to keep warm than to cool off
[00:14:28] <andrew> You can always put on a sweater.
[00:14:53] <arti> california has thinned my blood
[00:14:57] <paulej72> I usually wear a sweatshirt
[00:15:08] <arti> 23 outside right now, nearly perfect
[00:15:14] <paulej72> arti too much wine will do that too
[00:15:46] <arti> god this guy keeps mispronouncing beastiary
[00:16:36] <paulej72> if you spelled that correctly I could not pronounce it correctly either
[00:17:15] <mrcoolbp> yeah I got nothing for that one arti
[00:17:23] * arti resumes drinking
[00:17:30] <mrcoolbp> beast-e-airy?
[00:17:46] <arti> i'm in some random places on youtube
[00:17:46] <paulej72> see I was right it was the wine thinning your blood
[00:17:56] <mrcoolbp> called it ^
[00:18:09] <arti> how you doing MrBluze|backlater
[00:18:13] <arti> mrcoolbp
[00:18:24] <mrcoolbp> yes?
[00:19:21] <mrcoolbp> oh, how'm *I* doing?
[00:19:29] <mrcoolbp> I'm great thanks! How about yourself?
[00:19:31] * arti nods
[00:20:12] <arti> doing good, i was goign to do my taxes but i'll dick with that tomorrow
[00:20:16] * arti points to above
[00:22:43] <arti> been wrapping my brain around haskell
[00:22:50] <arti> it's been a pretty painful experience
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[00:28:44] <mrcoolbp> haskell and taxes, now my head hurts...
[00:30:12] <arti> i rather like the terse syntax
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[00:32:21] <andrew> No wonder you're drinking.
[00:34:08] <unitron> " <+paulej72> I code with the raw bits :)" Then be sure to wash your hands thoroughly afterwards.
[00:35:33] <paulej72> no need to I was my bits in hot water and soap first ;)
[00:35:48] <paulej72> s/was/wash/
[00:35:48] <SedBot> <paulej72> no need to I wash my bits in hot water and soap first ;)
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[00:37:19] <mrcoolbp> <SedBot>....
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[00:45:58] <crutchy> webchat keeps telling me that #8 is the place to be
[00:46:39] <crutchy> or it might have been just 8 or something
[00:47:04] <arti> it looks deep within you and assigns you a number based on the order in which you've joined
[00:47:14] <mrcoolbp> yeah, I think that is a bug, xlefay might be able to shed light on that crutchy
[00:47:43] <crutchy> arti: ooh in that case i've moved up in the world :-P
[00:48:00] <crutchy> bugs are ok
[00:48:12] * crutchy feeds bugs
[00:48:29] <crutchy> who's a good bug?
[00:48:45] <arti> hahaha
[00:50:49] <crutchy> i shall call him buggy and he shall be mine and i shall call him buggy... here little buggy
[00:50:51] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[00:52:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Processors to Become OS Locked - http://sylnt.us - more-lock-in-is-just-what-we-needed
[00:53:50] <Cyprus> well, that's horrifying
[00:54:21] <crutchy> meh i use amd anyways
[00:55:00] <crutchy> i doubt they will lock boxed cpus (as in cpus that come by themselves)
[00:55:21] <crutchy> dunno who bothers reading tfa
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[00:57:37] <crutchy> looka like they only talking about soc
[00:57:53] <crutchy> i don't care much about phones yet
[00:59:22] * arti nods
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[01:08:08] <crutchy> must be sleepy time in ol' us of a
[01:10:34] <arti> 17:10
[01:16:54] <Cyprus> anyone use logstash?
[01:17:05] <crutchy> nah not here
[01:17:16] * crutchy googles logstash
[01:17:29] <Cyprus> its like an opensource attempt at something like splunk
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[01:18:22] <crutchy> is that like what arti used for soylent stats?
[01:18:24] <crutchy> !stats
[01:18:24] <Bender> creating stats for channel #Soylent (Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970)
[01:18:33] <Bender> stat results for #Soylent: xlefay: 6002, crutchy: 5606, kobach: 5476, unknown: 4429, MrBluze: 3202, arti: 2810, hax0rz: 2675, Khyber: 2209, Landon: 2066, mattie_p: 1910, Konomi: 1838, janrinok: 1484, Guardian452: 1480, NCommander: 1374, Bender: 1276, stderr: 1260, n1: 1224, FatPhil: 1119, swisskid: 966, mrcoolbp: 961, martyb: 960, auto_def: 905, useless: 797, Ethanol-fueled: 776, juggs: 775, weilawei: 769, pbnjoe: 755, swiss: 728, SpallsHurgenson: 713
[01:19:06] <mrcoolbp> only 966? ah man I can do better...
[01:19:17] <pbnjoe> Ha, that's what I thought for myself
[01:19:27] * mrcoolbp get's to work
[01:20:28] <GungnirSniper> Did anyone submit a request for the site to support hashtags? My punching bag is down.
[01:20:58] <Cyprus> i think at the moment they're still covering the chickenwire with scrap lumber
[01:21:01] <Cyprus> the paint comes at step 5
[01:21:52] <NCommander> I'm falling down on the states
[01:22:13] <NCommander> Though in other ways, its a "who has the least life" constant, and you know, there are some things I don't mind being first in :-)
[01:22:24] <Cyprus> lol
[01:22:28] <mrcoolbp> GungnirSniper: no not yet
[01:22:33] <mrcoolbp> BRB
[01:22:53] <crutchy> regression testing is fun
[01:23:33] <crutchy> how the hell can i be the second most blabberer in here?
[01:23:40] <crutchy> is this place dead or something?
[01:23:47] <Cyprus> is that what those stats are?
[01:31:43] <crutchy> hmm
[01:31:49] <arti> need to do an !updatestats first
[01:32:00] <crutchy> slashcode is awesom!
[01:33:22] <crutchy> managed to reduce the regression testing error log for my refactored php from over 500kb down to 28kb
[01:33:59] <crutchy> ^nothing to do with slashcode
[01:35:47] <crutchy> justin beiber is awesome!
[01:36:06] <crutchy> man it is dead in here
[01:36:24] <crutchy> didn't even get a bite
[01:36:38] * arti blames crutchy
[01:36:45] <arti> slowly bleeding peeps
[01:37:01] <crutchy> i had a shower last month though :-P
[01:37:08] <arti> spicy.
[01:37:33] <crutchy> !updatestats
[01:37:56] * crutchy looking for usage trend
[01:38:03] <crutchy> !stats
[01:38:03] <Bender> creating stats for channel #Soylent (Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970)
[01:38:12] <Bender> stat results for #Soylent: xlefay: 6002, crutchy: 5619, kobach: 5476, unknown: 4429, MrBluze: 3202, arti: 2813, hax0rz: 2675, Khyber: 2209, Landon: 2066, mattie_p: 1910, Konomi: 1838, janrinok: 1484, Guardian452: 1480, NCommander: 1376, Bender: 1278, stderr: 1260, n1: 1224, FatPhil: 1119, swisskid: 966, mrcoolbp: 964, martyb: 960, auto_def: 905, useless: 797, Ethanol-fueled: 776, juggs: 775, weilawei: 769, pbnjoe: 756, swiss: 728, SpallsHurgenson: 713
[01:38:32] <arti> hmm
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[01:38:42] <arti> something didn't update /investigates
[01:39:00] <arti> saw the request, fired up the instance, probably has to do with the secure copy
[01:39:16] <paulej72> I am not even on the list :(
[01:39:25] * Konomi pats paulej72
[01:39:31] <andrew> I'm hoping to stay off the list.
[01:39:35] <crutchy> update stats didn't seem to work
[01:39:45] <crutchy> lol
[01:39:46] * paulej72 lurks some more :)
[01:39:59] <crutchy> hi paulej, konomi, andrew
[01:40:04] <crutchy> and bender :-P
[01:40:08] <paulej72> hi crutchy
[01:40:26] <paulej72> what-if-i: are you a bot?
[01:40:30] <Konomi> hey ^^
[01:40:41] <NCommander> crutchy, stuff the ballet box
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[01:41:01] <Konomi> http://www.jsonline.com
[01:41:04] * crutchy spins up another regression test
[01:41:29] <paulej72> Konomi: was it a hand?
[01:41:31] <what-if-i> Are you?
[01:41:49] <paulej72> what-if-i is really slow
[01:42:15] <crutchy> maybe he found a split
[01:42:18] <what-if-i> I'm old
[01:42:44] <paulej72> Yes it was a hand.
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[01:43:08] <crutchy> yay! no errors
[01:43:14] <crutchy> but testing still failed :-(
[01:43:26] <what-if-i> You disabled error reporting and suppressed all errors, didn't you?
[01:43:38] <arti> SEND IN THE LOGS
[01:43:48] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v arti] by what-if-i
[01:45:21] * arti bows
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[01:46:44] <Ethanol-fueled> I shouldn't stop by so much, it makes it look like I have no life.
[01:47:03] * Cyprus debates diving into logstash or foreman as a project
[01:47:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Cyprus: you dive? Literally?
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[01:48:34] <Cyprus> well yes, but that's unrelated
[01:48:47] <Ethanol-fueled> unrelated to what?
[01:48:58] <Cyprus> logstash / foreman
[01:49:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Ah, gotcha.
[01:51:34] <arti> crutchy: updated, http://antiartificial.com
[01:54:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[01:54:54] <Ethanol-fueled> That relation graph is awesome.
[01:55:08] <Cyprus> i'm assuming it bases it on name: comments?
[01:55:15] <arti> be cool it was interactive
[01:55:21] -!- xlefay [xlefay!~xlefay@Soylent/Staff/IRC/xlefay] has parted #Soylent
[01:55:35] <arti> cyprus, based on frequency lines appear with names
[01:55:39] <Ethanol-fueled> If you could apply those to the main soylent news, not only would be that totally badass, but you could make money by selling those reports (as well as other reports like comment history etc.)
[01:55:47] <crutchy> #Soylent stats: 4.3.2014!
[01:56:00] <crutchy> doesn't seem to work for me
[01:56:04] <arti> for example, since two lines followed your single, you would be more important to me, than you, roughly.
[01:56:43] <arti> crutchy, you're cached
[01:57:03] <arti> the old page was updated by int, new by me.
[01:57:14] <paulej72> I made the popular words list twice with really and could
[01:57:15] <crutchy> lol tsk tsk didn't you put cache control headers in
[01:57:32] <crutchy> :-P
[01:57:34] <arti> i did the absolute minimum
[01:57:42] <arti> be thankful i put google fonts in there
[01:57:55] <arti> the way the guy did the template was pretty whack
[01:58:05] * arti would've approached it completely differently
[01:58:32] <arti> oh well, a few !importants and it was good
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[01:59:58] <crutchy> hmm does appear to be trending downhill
[02:00:05] <crutchy> except for shtf day
[02:00:25] <arti> ~shrugs~
[02:00:53] <crutchy> honeymoon period might be over
[02:01:07] <paulej72> need to get stats for some of the other channels. I really like this information. It is fun to look at could
[02:01:28] <crutchy> yeah
[02:01:37] <paulej72> I have decided when I say really I need to say could or vice versa
[02:01:44] <crutchy> shit xlefay needs to chat more :0
[02:02:00] <arti> just need to set a 0.50 multiplier towards his line count
[02:02:01] <arti> >:D
[02:02:05] <Cyprus> a lot of the random chat moved to ## due to trolls
[02:02:06] <crutchy> before long i'm going to be the trollingest troll in here :-(
[02:02:13] * arti would like to see the stats take into account the viewers GMT
[02:02:22] <Ethanol-fueled> no way crutchy.
[02:02:36] <paulej72> crutchy: it seems that you and xlefay are the center of the chats/
[02:02:46] <Ethanol-fueled> I am king troll here, replacing Khyber.
[02:02:59] * arti pays the toll to cross the bridge
[02:03:03] <Cyprus> seeing as khyber got banned, it's not that difficult
[02:03:11] <arti> forever?
[02:03:12] <Ethanol-fueled> You sonsofbitches are gonna have to ban me before you can take that slot.
[02:03:23] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: as long as you do not replace poutine we'll be OK
[02:03:26] <crutchy> lol
[02:03:34] <Ethanol-fueled> poutine--
[02:03:34] <Bender> karma - poutine: -321
[02:03:38] <crutchy> !karma poutine
[02:03:38] <Bender> karma of poutine is -321
[02:03:39] <Ethanol-fueled> bix_nood++
[02:03:39] <Bender> karma - bix_nood: 4
[02:03:41] <Cyprus> lol poor poutine
[02:03:49] <arti> bix_nood++
[02:03:49] <Bender> karma - bix_nood: 5
[02:04:05] <arti> mafuggin basketball shitflingin bixnood
[02:04:39] <arti> [ BOUNCING INTENSIFIES]
[02:04:40] * Ethanol-fueled works with a black guy who says he has the "gorrilla grip"
[02:04:41] <crutchy> haha it calls me a nightcrawler
[02:05:04] <arti> yeah, from this side of the globe you are :P
[02:05:17] <arti> also, beware the beast in black~
[02:05:26] <crutchy> hey at least i'm not upside down :-P
[02:05:54] * arti finds those pictures amusing
[02:06:02] <arti> ...meanwhile in Australia
[02:06:37] <arti> maybe i'll add some more topics to the stats
[02:06:39] <Ethanol-fueled> We had an issue at work about our magnetic compass calibrations not being valid in Australia.
[02:07:10] <arti> game terms, foreign words, domain specific ones (C++, irc etc.)
[02:07:27] <Ethanol-fueled> arti: can you do a profanity edition?
[02:07:37] <arti> Ethanol-fueled: did you try playing the didgeridoo?
[02:07:44] <andrew> poutine++ pity
[02:07:44] <Bender> karma - poutine: -320
[02:07:45] <arti> sure, like what kind of words?
[02:07:48] <crutchy> fuck yeah!
[02:07:52] <arti> the regular ones are boring
[02:07:55] <Ethanol-fueled> arti: I tried here in the U.S., it was hard as fuck.
[02:08:03] <arti> yeah, makes you want to quit smoking
[02:08:07] <Ethanol-fueled> I think we ended up boring a hole into it and making it a pipe.
[02:08:18] <arti> make one out of a rainstick
[02:09:00] <Ethanol-fueled> arti: Yeah, but slurs and other curse words are too obscure to make a decent graph.
[02:09:17] <crutchy> you need to rub some koala shit on your compass to get it to work down here
[02:09:19] <Ethanol-fueled> and if you went by slurs, that chart would contain only one big red dot with my name on it.
[02:09:24] <arti> okay, i'll compile a list of words.
[02:09:45] <arti> well i heard they match up the red dots on their heads, like a lottery system, to convenience stores
[02:10:00] <arti> http://www.youtube.com
[02:10:38] * crutchy closes youtube after 5 seconds
[02:10:41] <crutchy> wtf was that!
[02:10:50] <arti> IM ABBO RAWR!
[02:11:14] <crutchy> lol creepy dude giving a big stick a blowjob
[02:11:19] <arti> hahahaha
[02:11:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahah, that guy's pretty good...he has pretty good control over those overtones.
[02:12:12] <arti> another video with a hang drum, it's like a hipster combo breaker
[02:12:15] <arti> http://www.youtube.com
[02:12:21] <arti> check out the "jive hands"
[02:12:23] <crutchy> i can get some decent tunes to come out of my wife when i blowing her too
[02:12:42] <arti> a vowel movement, if you will
[02:12:53] <GungnirSniper> You installed Linux on your 'wife'?
[02:13:03] <crutchy> lmao
[02:13:30] <arti> My name is Mr. Kabore Issoufou,
[02:13:33] <GungnirSniper> Mine runs a process called "nag".
[02:13:38] <arti> I am a Bank manager working with the Bank Of Africa here in West Africa, Ouagadougou Burkina Faso. I want you to help me in receiving the sum of Six million two hundred thousand u.s dollars. (Us$6.2m) for the betterment of our life into your Bank Account. I am the only staff here who know the actual secret of this fund. This fund was deposited in the bank here by a foreign customer who died
[02:13:39] <arti> accidentally alongside with his entire family members many years ago.
[02:13:43] <arti> how can i lose
[02:13:56] <crutchy> sniper: i think that's the bios
[02:14:05] <crutchy> can't get rid of
[02:14:05] <arti> heh
[02:14:22] <arti> the bios, that's where you like to fiddle around with settings
[02:14:26] <GungnirSniper> So I need a firmware upgrade? She could use one in other areas, tee hee.
[02:14:33] <crutchy> burkina faso is where all the kiddy traffic goes through
[02:14:40] <crutchy> saw a youtube docco on that once
[02:15:28] <crutchy> i wish i could give my wife some firmware... i can't even touch her software :-P
[02:16:35] <GungnirSniper> Well she's not open source so you can't even look inside and poke around.
[02:16:53] <crutchy> fuck i prolly no 1 on stats now. i have no life :-(
[02:17:14] <crutchy> !stats modify crutchy -1000
[02:17:14] <Bender> creating stats for channel #Soylent (Sun Mar 16 02:17:14 2014)
[02:17:18] <Bender> no result found for modify crutchy -1000
[02:17:21] <GungnirSniper> Are you parapalegic?
[02:17:32] <arti> depends how much i've had to drink
[02:18:11] <crutchy> nah she's got malware - W/32.BackInjury
[02:18:32] <crutchy> it's a real doozy
[02:18:32] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, does that "back injury" make her walk like a cowgirl?
[02:18:43] <crutchy> lol
[02:18:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Use lube next time, hahaha
[02:18:50] * arti chuckles
[02:19:14] <Ethanol-fueled> I've had no life lately because I'm working a side job after work, and I'm too exhausted to do stuff...though I did go surfing and kayak the bay today.
[02:19:20] <crutchy> ethanol: i wish it were that kind
[02:19:56] <crutchy> ethanol: me too. except for the surfing and kyaking :-P
[02:20:01] <arti> crutchy: what about making it hurt somewhere else so they forget about the back pain
[02:20:09] <Ethanol-fueled> It's a plot straight out of a porno, or bad Lifetime movie - A single mother I dated and try to break things off with is making me offers I can't refuse just to keep me around.
[02:20:21] <Ethanol-fueled> And she's paying me handsomely to fix up stuff around her house.
[02:20:25] <arti> :|
[02:20:33] <Ethanol-fueled> And against my better judgement, I slip her the "D" during jobs.
[02:20:38] <crutchy> arti: it's kind of a reflective malware... if i hurt it i tend to get the same in return :-P
[02:20:47] <crutchy> only worse
[02:21:04] <arti> fuck man, /not even once
[02:21:29] <andrew> Ethanol-fueled, wear a rubber, dude.
[02:21:34] <crutchy> lol
[02:21:34] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: if it's malware, then you probably have it too. Go to the clininc and get yourself checked out.
[02:22:06] <crutchy> i'll prolly get W32/BackInjury... my posture is pathetic
[02:22:16] <crutchy> hers was from a fall
[02:22:21] <Ethanol-fueled> andrew: Ain't gonna happen. I know that for certain. What I do have to deal with is the inevitable fact that I'm gonna enter into a relationship with somebody else and have to tell her "By the way, I can never talk to you again, bye!"
[02:22:50] <crutchy> just make sure you slip her the "D" after :-P
[02:23:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Other than her and another woman I see, I have stopped dating single mothers permanently, because no matter what they say, they're hustlers at heart.
[02:23:25] <andrew> When you break it off with her, just recite the lyrics from "Rocket Man"
[02:24:02] <andrew> Mars ain't the kind of place to raise a child.
[02:24:03] <Ethanol-fueled> They will try to put their hooks into you and get their foot in the door for eventually meeting their kid, and more often than not that kid is looking desperately to latch on to a father figure.
[02:24:20] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[02:25:01] <Ethanol-fueled> This is an example: The other single mother I'm seeing (who is a Ph. D and actually pretty cool, so cool I can't give her up) came out to her garage when I pulled in, holding her cat like a baby, as if "baby" was happy to see "daddy"
[02:25:20] <crutchy> tmi dude
[02:25:31] <arti> hahahaha
[02:25:32] <andrew> Cats not kids.
[02:26:27] <andrew> I like to pretend my cat is my child sometimes to annoy actual parents, they hate that shit.
[02:26:37] <arti> hahaha
[02:26:42] <Ethanol-fueled> I know all the tricks, and are reistant to them. But at the same time everything is on the table on my end, no bullshit. I lay it out for them, tactfully but firmly, on day one. They expect that they can whittle down my resolve, but they never do and become frustrated when they see that they can't.
[02:27:06] <Ethanol-fueled> andrew: even cats are better than kids. Cats will at least respect you now and then.
[02:27:17] <crutchy> ethanol: maybe just flop it out and say "here it is... use it or lose it"
[02:27:18] <andrew> lol
[02:27:35] <Ethanol-fueled> even the most antosocial cat will emerge from its hiding place and thank you for the food by letting you pet it. Kids just throw their food at you.
[02:28:05] <Ethanol-fueled> antisocial^
[02:28:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Seriously considering getting my tubes tied.
[02:28:53] <andrew> Me too.
[02:29:11] <andrew> I think my girlfriend would be pissed though.
[02:29:27] <arti> well tell her to stop hogging it all
[02:29:32] <arti> save some for later
[02:29:38] <crutchy> oook
[02:29:59] * arti is satisfied with this response
[02:31:14] <andrew> http://www.duluthnewstribune.com
[02:31:26] <arti> heh
[02:31:40] <arti> > You experience 2d6 * 10 crushing damage.
[02:31:43] <andrew> I think I live in the Onion.
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[02:38:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Billy Joel's "Big Shot" is the funniest song ever.
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[02:38:35] <SoyCow6640> Moo!
[02:38:46] <Ethanol-fueled> cow: are you male or female?
[02:38:54] <SoyCow6640> yes
[02:38:59] <crutchy> lol
[02:39:11] <Ethanol-fueled> that's a totally pointless question here.
[02:39:20] <crutchy> yes
[02:39:36] <crutchy> you can't slip cow the "D"
[02:39:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Yes I can/
[02:39:56] <Ethanol-fueled> People can and do slip other species the "D"
[02:40:05] <SoyCow6640> sounds like a personal problem
[02:40:09] <Ethanol-fueled> There's even porn of a man fucking an alligator.
[02:40:52] <SoyCow6640> ...it was asking for it
[02:41:24] <crutchy> oblig: https://www.youtube.com
[02:41:27] <Ethanol-fueled> some girls are bigger than other girls, but all girls like to be manhandled.
[02:41:40] <Ethanol-fueled> They want to feel small, pretty, cute enough to be tossed around.
[02:41:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Alligator women are no different.
[02:41:58] <arti> heh
[02:42:05] <Ethanol-fueled> They just need men who aren't intimidated. REAL MEN.
[02:43:38] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll tell you a dirty little secret about fat girls - they LOVE to be picked up.
[02:44:23] <arti> feats of strength
[02:44:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Try to pick them up and they will thrash and kick their feet because they don't want to feel heavy...but succeed in lifting one up and -- better yet -- tossing her on the bed, and she will want to marry you.
[02:44:35] <arti> HHHHGGGGNNNNNNGGGHHHRRHRRHrrhrrpppppPPUGuhhh
[02:44:55] <Ethanol-fueled> arti: no joke. Hiding your strain is the hardest part
[02:45:20] <arti> here is practice: http://www.youtube.com
[02:47:21] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm going to be totally vulgar here, and may have already told you all this in a drunken stupor, but penis extenders work wonders.
[02:48:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Following link not safe for work:
[02:48:05] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.amazon.com
[02:48:24] <Ethanol-fueled> the syberskin transformer is my preferred model, available in various extension lengths.
[02:48:31] <Ethanol-fueled> cyberskin^
[02:48:51] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm not small, but sometimes it's good to have that extra "ooomph"
[02:49:12] <Ethanol-fueled> ( but ethanol, like, I won't feel anything anymore! )
[02:49:35] <Ethanol-fueled> like hell you won't. If anything, you'll be feeling better, because it's like a fleshlight that pleases both you and your partner.
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[02:50:12] <Ethanol-fueled> DO NOT tell anybody about what I just mentioned...that is a secret weapon, and I want to keep it that way. And you will also.
[02:50:19] <SoyCow6640> so, how 'bout that weather?
[02:50:29] <arti> it's very... extensive
[02:50:38] <Ethanol-fueled> They have not reached popular acceptance yet, and it is in our best interests to keep it that way.
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[02:54:07] <crutchy> Bender: s/Bletchley Park/SoylentNews/
[02:54:07] <SedBot> <crutchy> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mediation Recommended for SoylentNews Dispute - http://sylnt.us - not-so-secret-now
[02:54:13] <crutchy> :-P
[02:54:15] <crutchy> bit late
[02:54:56] <crutchy> penis extenders!? wtf are you smoking ethanol?
[02:56:04] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: it's all about losing an ounce of pride to gain an ton in physical and psychological joy.
[02:56:25] <crutchy> i don't need one :-)
[02:56:46] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: that's just what she tells you. Hell, she might even believe it. But once you put one on...
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[02:57:15] <crutchy> nah i know i don't need one
[02:57:17] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't "need" one either. I also don't "need" sushi or ethanol. But they make life so much nicer.
[02:57:49] <Cyprus> i really hate open source companies that use a lack of documentation of their product to sell support intentionally
[02:58:07] <crutchy> i guess they gotta make money somehow
[02:58:45] <NezSez> I cannot imagine life without wasabi
[02:58:52] <SoyCow6640> Cyprus, which company specifically?
[02:59:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Cyprus: good subject change. The longstanding belief in open source was that people did it because they liked to do it, because they knew it wouldn't make them money.
[03:00:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Now, people are trying to monetize open source at all levels, and at many of those levels it looks more pathetic than proprietary solutions.
[03:00:49] <crutchy> that's good though
[03:00:51] <arti> sorta like the in app purchase crap
[03:01:07] <crutchy> monitizing open source is good i mean
[03:01:15] <Cyprus> Soycow: trying to get logstash set up, and its like they hide the &^%$@ docs
[03:01:43] <crutchy> monetization is what brings oss to the forefront... otherwise it would remain a nerd niche
[03:01:53] <Cyprus> every damn link is to purchasing support
[03:02:31] <crutchy> try looking elsewhere Cyprus
[03:02:39] <crutchy> there's usually forums etc
[03:03:03] <crutchy> they offer paid support only for the lazy
[03:03:48] <Cyprus> oh i am, but they really make it a pain
[03:04:06] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: it is, but first you have to convince people it's better than closed-source. Which means, not resorting to the most obnoxious techniques or proprietary software vendors.
[03:04:16] <Cyprus> i am just complaining about the fact that they intentionally don't release any documentation for free on an OSS product
[03:04:31] <Cyprus> with no default configuration distributed
[03:04:36] <crutchy> https://groups.google.com!forum/logstash-users
[03:04:37] <Cyprus> and no packaging
[03:04:50] <Ethanol-fueled> We should know this all too well - Sourceforge started bundling crapware with their downloads.
[03:04:51] <Cyprus> other than a tarball
[03:05:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Free software must not stoop down to the level of most propriatary software to remain credible.
[03:05:49] <Cyprus> even proprietary software doesn't make you call support to install it
[03:05:52] <crutchy> ethanol: users will make up their own mind... if proprietary is better, it will sell. if open source is better, it will sell. whether it's open or closed source doesn't matter a shit to most people
[03:06:11] <Cyprus> unless you're like oracle
[03:06:38] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: It mattered to the people who built Soylent News, who could have used another out-of-box solution.
[03:07:03] <crutchy> they willingly chose slashcode for a reason though, otherwise they would have used something else
[03:07:35] <crutchy> if open source is important to soylent, that's ok
[03:07:50] <crutchy> soylent isn't exactly "most people" when it comes to software though
[03:08:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Cyprus: annoying offtopic comment approaching - I work for the company who made a certain sensor on both of Oracle's boats for the America's cup. The fucking idiots didn't buy the self-contained (watertight) version because they expected water would never get into the compartment.
[03:09:17] <crutchy> it was probably cheaper
[03:09:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, when the boat capsized, it sure did, and low and behold they paid us a shitload of money to fix it. I saw it with my own two eyes, it was corroded severely throughout and salvaging any part was impossible.
[03:09:34] <crutchy> they just told you it was because they didn't expect water to get in
[03:09:59] <crutchy> and capsizing isn't exactly something you plan for... if the boat capsized they get a big insurance payout anyway
[03:10:43] <crutchy> but at least you got more business :-)
[03:10:56] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: All of our toys are ridiculously overpriced, and there's no meaningful difference with respect to cost between the self-contained and raw electronic versions.
[03:11:26] <crutchy> maybe it was something to do with weight, or bulk.. whatever the reason
[03:11:46] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: This is a small sensor. You're going to have to trust me on these things.
[03:12:26] <Ethanol-fueled> The cost and weight differences are negligible.
[03:12:29] <crutchy> seems dumb that they would pick the non-watertight version then, but who knows
[03:12:37] <crutchy> except oracle
[03:13:07] <Ethanol-fueled> the point I was trying to make is that Oracle's obnoxious hubris carries over to the design of their racing cats.
[03:13:19] <crutchy> i'm sure it does
[03:13:38] <Ethanol-fueled> to something totally unrelated to software as a sensor the size of a 24 oz. can of Miller.
[03:13:52] <crutchy> adobe doesn't race in the america's cup do they... would hate to see how they go about it
[03:14:11] <crutchy> sensors are geeky fun
[03:14:20] <crutchy> sparkfun is awesome
[03:14:39] <crutchy> https://www.sparkfun.com
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[03:15:27] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: Fuck yeah, Arduino. Got one. Loads of fun to play with.
[03:15:28] <crutchy> particularly https://www.sparkfun.com
[03:16:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Interested in the infared sensors, and building a cat-chasing robot that can emit scary noises.
[03:16:06] <crutchy> i just got a atmega128 from futurlec
[03:16:13] <crutchy> lol
[03:16:31] <crutchy> include a laser pointer and you can take control of your cat :-P
[03:16:42] <Ethanol-fueled> that would be awesome
[03:17:47] * crutchy drools: https://www.sparkfun.com
[03:18:45] <MrBluze|backlater> oh.. i thought it was spankfun
[03:19:11] <crutchy> lol well i am chatting with ethanol :-P
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[03:19:28] * crutchy drools some more: https://www.sparkfun.com
[03:19:44] <crutchy> pity only 50kg
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[03:22:05] <crutchy> how you going mrbluze?
[03:22:41] <crutchy> oooh: https://www.sparkfun.com
[03:22:41] <MrBluze> oh im ok
[03:22:48] <MrBluze> jus' tryin to catch up on catching up with work
[03:22:54] <crutchy> think i need another coffee
[03:23:05] <crutchy> working the weekend huh
[03:23:08] <crutchy> that sux
[03:24:52] <NezSez> sparkfun is indeed awesome
[03:25:15] <Ethanol-fueled> adafruit is also badass
[03:25:53] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup MrBluze. replied to one of your comments earlier, haha
[03:25:56] <crutchy> farnell pretty good too
[03:26:21] <crutchy> http://au.element14.com
[03:26:32] <MrBluze> hi ethanol how u doin
[03:26:34] <MrBluze> oh lol
[03:26:40] <MrBluze> one of my dumb ones or one of my good ones
[03:26:46] <MrBluze> 50:50 chance
[03:26:49] <crutchy> http://au.element14.com
[03:26:50] <NezSez> yeah element14 is good too
[03:26:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Bluze: beats me.
[03:27:05] <Ethanol-fueled> gems they can not all be, hahah
[03:27:54] <crutchy> ooh they gots proper load cells http://au.element14.com
[03:28:00] <NezSez> ohyeah adafruit
[03:28:03] <NezSez> good
[03:28:36] <MrBluze> this is true, especailly for me
[03:29:18] <NezSez> i wonder if one can get a radon sensor
[03:29:31] <NezSez> for use with a microcontroller i mean
[03:33:09] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: I know we were talking about fat girls earlier, but that's ridiculous.
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[03:36:17] <crutchy> lol
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[03:42:55] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm a drunk, but did I, by any chance, post Vaginal Jesus here last night?
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[04:47:45] <drcoolbp> [SoylentNews is LIVE people! https://soylentnews.org | Wiki: http://sylnt.us | Forums: http://sylnt.us | Code: http://sylnt.us | Got bugs? http://sylnt.us | Who's who? http://sylnt.us | Get Involved: http://sylnt.us | Staff discussions in #staff are now open for all, always | /join ## - to chill]
[04:47:51] <drcoolbp> .topic [SoylentNews is LIVE people! https://soylentnews.org | Wiki: http://sylnt.us | Forums: http://sylnt.us | Code: http://sylnt.us | Got bugs? http://sylnt.us | Who's who? http://sylnt.us | Get Involved: http://sylnt.us | Staff discussions in #staff are now open for all, always | /join ## - to chill]
[04:48:07] <drcoolbp> .op
[04:48:07] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o drcoolbp] by what-if-i
[04:48:12] <drcoolbp> .topic [SoylentNews is LIVE people! https://soylentnews.org | Wiki: http://sylnt.us | Forums: http://sylnt.us | Code: http://sylnt.us | Got bugs? http://sylnt.us | Who's who? http://sylnt.us | Get Involved: http://sylnt.us | Staff discussions in #staff are now open for all, always | /join ## - to chill]
[04:48:25] <drcoolbp> hmmmm
[04:49:07] <BadCoderFinger> Fun with bots?
[04:49:27] <drcoolbp> just changing the topic (slightly)
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[04:50:09] * xlefay watches drcoolbp closely.
[04:50:41] <BadCoderFinger> Binoculars?
[04:50:53] <Cyprus> drcoolbp: s/topic.*/topic repeatedly/g
[04:50:53] <SedBot> <Cyprus> <drcoolbp> just changing the topic repeatedly
[04:51:42] <drcoolbp> sorry....
[04:51:49] * Cyprus chuckles
[04:51:54] <drcoolbp> = )
[04:52:00] <xlefay> BadCoderFinger: that's for sure.
[04:52:09] <Cyprus> the funny part is, i still don't think it changed
[04:52:17] <xlefay> drcoolbp: what topic do you want to set?
[04:52:17] <drcoolbp> that's what I'm sayin'
[04:52:41] <Cyprus> sedbot: s/repeatedly/ineffectively/
[04:52:44] <Cyprus> awww
[04:52:51] <drcoolbp> oh harsh man....
[04:52:56] <BadCoderFinger> "Soylent chat: More fun on a Saturday night than a burp contest!"
[04:53:13] <Cyprus> i see i need to read the sedbot code a bit more
[04:53:18] <xlefay> .op
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[04:53:24] <xlefay> works fine here drcoolbp
[04:53:30] * Cyprus snickers
[04:53:34] <xlefay> maybe it's the webchat, I'll look into that
[04:53:57] * drcoolbp is not on webchat
[04:54:01] <xlefay> oh...
[04:54:10] <drcoolbp> = (
[04:54:12] <xlefay> you're in mIRC... double click randomly in the channel
[04:54:16] <xlefay> not on a nick though...
[04:54:18] <Cyprus> rofl
[04:54:20] <xlefay> on a white area.. ;')
[04:54:29] <xlefay> See what happens?
[04:54:35] <drcoolbp> yeah
[04:54:36] <Cyprus> xlefay: please don't write documentation =P
[04:54:42] <xlefay> you get a dialog, you can change the topic there. ;)
[04:54:43] <drcoolbp> hahah
[04:54:56] <xlefay> why do we have the []'s around the topic tho?
[04:54:57] <xlefay> That's retarded
[04:55:02] * Cyprus tries to stop laughing
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[04:55:25] <BadCoderFinger> Boundary markers?
[04:55:34] <xlefay> They shall be no more!
[04:55:44] <drcoolbp> i was going to try that....
[04:55:45] <BadCoderFinger> How shall I know where the topic starts and stops!
[04:55:47] <drcoolbp> = (
[04:55:53] <xlefay> BadCoderFinger: use your imagination
[04:56:07] <BadCoderFinger> That's been destroyed by TV.
[04:56:15] <xlefay> Even better, then it'll be a visual topic1
[04:56:45] <NezSez> I used my imagination; it called me an exploitative clod
[04:57:31] <xlefay> least you weren't insensitive initially.
[04:57:45] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[04:57:50] <xlefay> !plug-enable karma
[04:57:50] <Bender> reloading and enabling jsb.plugs.common.karma
[04:57:54] <Bender> done - plug-enable
[04:57:56] <xlefay> k I'm out, ciao.
[04:58:01] <BadCoderFinger> Later!
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[04:58:09] <drcoolbp> xlefay: everyone else: gotz to go please the wife. Goodnight all
[04:58:25] <drcoolbp> bad timing on that one
[04:58:33] <drcoolbp> anyway have fun y'all
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[04:58:36] <Ethanol-fueled> drcoolbp: rip her a new one.
[04:59:02] <Cyprus> Ethanol-fueled: you're already draining my modpoints
[04:59:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Cyprus: then don't asociate with me.
[04:59:34] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm dirty.
[05:01:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Shitheads.
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[05:02:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Cyprus: You ready to get blown the fuck out?
[05:02:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Step Up, nigga
[05:04:16] <NezSez> nighters all
[05:04:21] <arti> nite!
[05:04:42] <BadCoderFinger> Night!
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[05:15:56] <andrew> !current-uid
[05:15:56] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 3872, owned by Slick Willy
[05:16:10] <andrew> Registration has slowed down.
[05:17:43] * arti wonders what /.s was like back in the 4 digit days
[05:18:33] * Cyprus wishes he would have actually registered back in the 4 digit days
[05:19:02] <arti> that's some prime virtual realestate
[05:20:00] <Cyprus> back when the joke in the name actually meant something
[05:25:35] <MrBluze> it has
[05:26:34] <andrew> !quote poutine
[05:26:34] <Bender> No quotes found with the text 'poutine'
[05:27:03] <andrew> hrumph
[05:28:22] <andrew> !quote bacon
[05:28:22] <Bender> Quote 18 - <FatPhil> I just tried to set via ssh my g/f's desktop image to that bacon in order to taunt her, but by command didn't work, and I ended up with it as my background image instead
[05:29:20] <andrew> !quote beer
[05:29:20] <Bender> No quotes found with the text 'beer'
[05:29:33] <andrew> !grab Bender
[05:29:33] <Bender> I don't know what Bender said, so I can't quote them!
[05:29:37] <andrew> Fuck you.
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[05:40:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dicephalic Parapagus Twins Born in India - http://sylnt.us - you've-got-a-friend-in-me
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[05:44:16] <Subsentient1> I fucking told you so! I fucking told you all! I warned you and you apologized for those responsible for this evil! I told you so!
[05:44:17] <Subsentient1> http://soylentnews.org
[05:45:45] * Cyprus buys that guy a tinfoil hat
[05:45:51] * Subsentient1 eats it
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[05:52:35] * Subsentient1 resumes screaming at the top of his lungs
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[05:55:05] <MrBluze> yeah Subsentient1 totally
[05:55:18] <Subsentient1> MrBluze: eh?
[05:55:24] <MrBluze> the article
[05:55:40] <Subsentient1> MrBluze: Uhh, yeah. Care to join me in the screaming choir?
[05:55:41] <MrBluze> i read also elsewhere the amt intel chips have gsm2 transceiver chips as part of the hypervisor
[05:55:51] <MrBluze> 2 minutes of hate.. starts.. now
[05:56:05] * Subsentient1 gets MrBluze a glass of water and a megaphone
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[05:56:25] * MrBluze kicks the soapbox into position
[05:56:31] <Subsentient1> MrBluze: I have an interesting idea, seriously.
[05:56:40] <Subsentient1> Let's record CDs of us screaming, and mail them to Intel?
[05:56:41] <MrBluze> screw intel, screw all that stuff.. open computing ftw
[05:57:25] <Subsentient1> MrBluze: I have an urge to find something angry, irrational, and weird to do, and then to do it, and attempt to get others to follow.
[06:00:54] <MrBluze> lol
[06:01:02] <MrBluze> hang their sneakers on the powerlines
[06:01:18] <Subsentient1> MrBluze: Hmm, maybe the screaming CDs are not a bad idea?
[06:01:24] <MrBluze> or tie their USB phone charger cables to fence posts
[06:04:52] <MrBluze> maybe just attack dial their phone lines with full amplitude white noise
[06:05:21] <MrBluze> i am cash-strapped-end-user hear me roar
[06:05:28] <crutchy> make a cover of a justin beiber song
[06:06:42] <MrBluze> lol crutchy that's what they do in camp x-ray
[06:07:19] <MrBluze> justin beiber is a form of torture, according to amnesty
[06:17:15] <crutchy> if everyone made covers of justin beiber songs, we could try listening to the songs without justiun beiber torture
[06:19:58] * Subsentient1 is still very, very serious about this.
[06:24:13] <crutchy> take a load off subsentient
[06:27:46] <Subsentient1> crutchy: I wanna find that drill machine from the movie 'the Core", and then drive it up the ass of whoever came up with this nasty plan by Intel.
[06:31:14] <MrBluze> i am too Subsentient1
[06:31:28] <MrBluze> we have a situation that is more hopeless than in soviet times
[06:37:14] <Subsentient1> MrBluze: You being sarcastic? I'd agree, but...
[06:37:24] <MrBluze> well
[06:37:35] <MrBluze> soviet era was brutal and totalitarian
[06:37:56] <MrBluze> but the mechanism of this was less refined
[06:38:12] <Subsentient1> indeed
[06:38:15] <MrBluze> we have the infrastructure for an even worse system
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[06:40:35] <MrBluze> bbl dinner
[06:43:02] <crutchy> subsentient: are you in a situation where you're kinda forced into using intel?
[06:43:10] <crutchy> adobe products or something?
[06:45:34] <crutchy> !updatestats
[06:45:43] <crutchy> !stats
[06:45:43] <Bender> creating stats for channel #Soylent (Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970)
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[06:46:24] <crutchy> damn. i need to take a break for a few days i think
[06:54:13] <Subsentient1> crutchy: No, but others will follow suit
[06:54:36] <Subsentient1> crutchy: this is a battle about freedom, only an absolute fool would ever believe that it stops with Intel.
[06:58:53] <crutchy> hackers don't tend to allow things like that
[06:58:56] <IT_freak> everyone is forced to use intel
[06:59:02] <IT_freak> for media production
[06:59:11] <IT_freak> otherwise everything counts
[06:59:20] <IT_freak> you can blame apple for that and adobe
[06:59:33] <crutchy> adobe is a turd i agree
[06:59:45] <crutchy> never used anything apple
[06:59:48] <IT_freak> someone hack adobe quick
[06:59:57] <crutchy> i use gimp
[06:59:58] <IT_freak> their cs6 is gangbanged anyway
[07:00:11] <crutchy> but my missus uses adobe
[07:00:38] <IT_freak> thought tech kids don't have missus?
[07:00:48] <IT_freak> j/k i has one too ^^
[07:00:56] <crutchy> i'm almost 32
[07:01:03] <crutchy> fuck i'm almost 32
[07:01:05] <IT_freak> oh lol almost 22 here ^^
[07:01:07] * crutchy feels old
[07:01:35] <crutchy> i'm not really a tech guy either
[07:01:39] <crutchy> i just pretend
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[07:01:48] <IT_freak> >.> oh noez here we go :D
[07:02:18] <crutchy> i'm a pretend nerd :-P
[07:02:29] <IT_freak> i bet you wouldn't say it like that in RL
[07:02:40] <IT_freak> costs your reputation >.>
[07:02:52] <crutchy> lol i don't really have a tech reputation
[07:03:04] <IT_freak> i mean to people u work w/
[07:03:11] <crutchy> well i try not to anyways
[07:03:21] <IT_freak> lol that was my point? lmao
[07:03:30] <crutchy> i know some programming and some bits and bobs
[07:03:42] <crutchy> but i work in an orifice full of nerds
[07:04:01] <crutchy> so i can hide in my alcove when problems crop up :-P
[07:04:06] <IT_freak> nerd swag... mhm
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[07:04:23] <IT_freak> lol crutchy is so evil
[07:04:45] <crutchy> nah i just hate dealing with windows problems
[07:05:25] <crutchy> i work with a few others that know more about windows problem solving than me so i'm lucky
[07:06:18] <crutchy> i work with a few appleheads too
[07:09:50] <crutchy> so what happened to auto_def anyways?
[07:16:31] <arti> fuck, that'll summon him
[07:17:00] * arti awaits a nick change
[07:17:23] <crutchy> how many nicks does he have now?
[07:17:38] * arti looks at the moon
[07:17:50] <arti> hmmm, if my calculations are correct, it's variable
[07:17:54] <crutchy> lol
[07:18:16] <crutchy> depends on the orbit of uranus
[07:19:07] <arti> :|
[07:20:43] <FoobarBazbot_> It's official. Khyber's a rat!
[07:20:52] <FoobarBazbot_> http://soylentnews.org
[07:21:09] <crutchy> still sorting out regression test failures in my php. not much fun
[07:21:43] <crutchy> lol didn't realise that was news :-P
[07:22:01] <crutchy> he needs to lay off the hooch a bit
[07:22:18] <crutchy> he's ok otherwise
[07:23:59] <arti> most former wolf/et players are alright :P
[07:31:41] <mattie_p> he's already unbanned here, according to xlefay
[07:44:20] <IT_freak> -_-;
[07:44:30] <IT_freak> i.. i found something i like genuinely
[07:44:40] <IT_freak> does that make you want to cut yourself? i hope not -_-
[07:45:00] * arti gives himself an indian burn instead
[07:45:39] <IT_freak> or what's it called, you twist your hair into a furball and rip the leghair out
[07:45:45] <IT_freak> your leghair*
[07:45:56] <arti> i like to braid it
[07:46:18] <IT_freak> wow what a pro; girls must love you for braiding their pussy hair
[07:46:29] <IT_freak> pubic swag
[07:46:59] <IT_freak> (i like to take it to the extreme, so what)
[07:48:11] <crutchy> "pubic swag" isn't really extreme
[07:48:36] <MrBluze> depends how u braid it
[07:48:39] <arti> this is all these guys know, smooth.
[07:50:12] <IT_freak> yeah well an awkward silence doesn't usually help
[07:50:27] <IT_freak> depends how you braid it? you braid that shit like an african, how else?
[07:51:09] <arti> http://img0.etsystatic.com
[07:51:10] <IT_freak> yes arti. i like to use a lot of lube
[07:51:29] <IT_freak> now put that on the pussy
[07:51:41] * arti googles cat pictures
[07:51:47] <IT_freak> with some beads on that shit
[07:52:00] <chromas> You braid it into a cozy to keep your Mountain Dew cold while you flip your car upside down off a cliff. Is that extreme?
[07:52:18] <IT_freak> throw some d on that bitch haha
[07:52:44] <IT_freak> is it extreme? hmm..... as long as it makes sense
[07:52:52] <arti> that's an awesome extreme description
[07:52:55] <IT_freak> logically*
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[07:56:47] <IT_freak> btw cozy style is nice; keeps things simple
[07:56:59] <arti> "winter beard"
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[08:44:36] <prospectacle> A hoy hoy
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[08:53:15] <Subsentient> Urr hurr hurr
[08:54:26] <prospectacle> Hey subsentient. Are you planning for your string processor to be open or published or anything? Or is it just for fun?
[08:54:51] <prospectacle> I ask because if you put it in your journal, links, etc. You'd probably get really useful comments.
[08:55:00] <prospectacle> It's a fairly small community. Some of whom are into computer-related things.
[08:55:24] <Subsentient> prospectacle: Well, it's public domain (unlicense)
[08:55:50] <Subsentient> I am creating it because I really fucking hate messing with strncmp loops and tricks to split strings, for "endswiths", etc
[08:56:06] <Subsentient> It's standalone, it does not require the standard library
[08:56:14] <prospectacle> I'll bet you're not alone in that. Well I looked at your journal to see if there was a link and maybe a discussion about your library.
[08:56:23] <Subsentient> prospectacle: It's in early stages
[08:56:29] <Subsentient> once it's usable I'll publish it there
[08:56:33] <prospectacle> What if I was someone who was an expert in c (I'm not, but consieder the possibility), who went looking in your journal in order to help
[08:56:35] <prospectacle> oh ok. Cool
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[08:57:15] <Subsentient> prospectacle: I quit coding for a couple weeks, and it always amazes and horrifies me how many things I forget about the C standard when I take long breaks like that
[08:57:45] <prospectacle> In addition to my article post, I found some very useful guides on specific c-language stuff ( minimise local variables, minimise function params, as they are both processed on the stack; also pass structures by reference.), but your google-fu is probably strong enough that I don't need to tell you abotu those.
[08:58:20] <prospectacle> I think probably majority of people in this "community" have their own little project. Would be good if there were methods for sharing, getting feedback, etc. I guess the journals are suitable for that purpose.
[08:58:56] <Subsentient> prospectacle: This was my "project". http://universe2.us
[08:59:07] <Subsentient> I use it on all my systems.
[08:59:34] <prospectacle> reading...
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[09:01:09] <crutchy> starting up... the shields
[09:01:10] <prospectacle> looks good. Did you ever solicit advice/contributions?
[09:01:22] <Subsentient> prospectacle: Once or twice.
[09:01:23] <crutchy> he would never have got anything done if he did that
[09:01:25] <prospectacle> By the way it's good to see another public domain believer. Software licences are dumb
[09:01:28] <Subsentient> I mostly just wrote the init system I wanted.
[09:02:11] <prospectacle> crutchy: I meant after making it the way he wanted. Like to see if others had a use or additions for it.
[09:02:46] <crutchy> i was just being stupid :-P
[09:02:47] <prospectacle> It's a pity sourceforge has sold out in the sneaky-additional-install way. They were one of the few good ways of publicising oss stuff.
[09:03:13] <crutchy> github still seems ok
[09:03:53] * Subsentient does still like github, but he feels that there is a danger of them becoming a feature-creep megacorp like Google.
[09:03:58] <Subsentient> And google is evil.
[09:04:20] <crutchy> github is going payware to some extent
[09:04:21] <prospectacle> yeah github looks like a good service, but it's mostly focused on repository hosting. SF had at least the whole homepage/download thing, so it would cater to various levels of user/developer.
[09:04:53] <Subsentient> prospectacle: Whatever makes people spin up their own servers makes me happy.
[09:05:36] <Subsentient> No more VM shit lol
[09:06:08] <prospectacle> Just out of interest: What kind of platform is your string processing for? Is it general purpose or for low-resource/embedded stuff?
[09:06:59] <Subsentient> prospectacle: All purpose. It's fully C89 compliant and does not use stdlib
[09:07:06] <Subsentient> so it can compile on literally any C89 compiler
[09:07:22] <prospectacle> I agree, btw, that c string stuff sucks. I often have to use c++ at work and even that is frustratingly low-feature.
[09:07:36] <prospectacle> I'm used to high level things that might be 100x slower, but you sure can do things with strings.
[09:07:56] <Subsentient> prospectacle: I believe in C strings, but I do want to manipulate them easier.
[09:08:17] <prospectacle> If you get it right it could be a revolution.
[09:08:26] <Subsentient> prospectacle: HAHH
[09:08:31] <crutchy> wow subsentient... epoch looks diehard
[09:08:45] <Subsentient> No, this library actually reinvents some stuff in stdlib, e.g. copy, cat, etc
[09:09:01] <Subsentient> my cat is better though. It stops by the total size available, like snprintf(), vs what you give it
[09:09:14] <Subsentient> crutchy: Is that a complement?
[09:09:19] <prospectacle> Yeah but there's a big gap between byte-level (which is very verbose and limited) stuff and full reg-exp (which can do anything but is a whole new language).
[09:09:32] <prospectacle> If you can meet that demand you will go down in history. So, you know, no pressure.
[09:09:46] <crutchy> yeah
[09:09:48] <Subsentient> prospectacle: Let me give you a list of functions I have so far, sec
[09:09:48] <crutchy> :-)
[09:09:57] <prospectacle> One feature I would like. Get me the substring that's between this string and that string. If you know what I mean
[09:10:44] <Subsentient> Compare, StartsWith, EndsWith, Copy, Cat, Compare, Find, CFind, Split, Line.NextLine, Line.WhitespaceJump
[09:11:07] <crutchy> in php there's explode and strtok to help out too
[09:11:25] <Subsentient> prospectacle: Hmm, you want me to get you the data between pointer a and pointer b?
[09:11:37] <prospectacle> php has great string processing. php does everything. That's what haters don't get. It's ugly, it's inconsistent, but it has libraries for everything.
[09:12:06] <Subsentient> prospectacle: Find me a good name for that function and I'll write it.
[09:12:16] <crutchy> buttmuch(
[09:12:24] * Subsentient busts up
[09:12:24] <crutchy> s/buttmuch/buttmunch/
[09:12:25] <SedBot> <crutchy> buttmunch(
[09:12:38] <prospectacle> Subsentient: E.g. "here is my request: blue car with leather seats. Also some pie". I want the string that's between ":" and ".". Then later I probably want the one between "With" and "seats".
[09:12:39] <Subsentient> crutchy: SedBot does not listen to everyone, does he?
[09:13:07] <prospectacle> Susbentient. Ok, I'll give it some serious thought. Give me 30 seconds.
[09:13:19] <FoobarBazbot_> Subsentient: yeah, he does
[09:13:40] <Subsentient> prospectacle: So, if I wrote "I farted and it smells like cheese", you want to get what's between "it" and "like", which yields "smells"?
[09:13:51] <prospectacle> Subsentient, yes. I think just call it "between"
[09:13:54] <Subsentient> s/cheese/turnips/
[09:13:54] <SedBot> <Subsentient> prospectacle: So, if I wrote "I farted and it smells like turnips", you want to get what's between "it" and "like", which yields "smells"?
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[09:14:11] <Subsentient> prospectacle: That's an easy function.
[09:14:26] <Subsentient> prospectacle: You want me to require two pointers, and an output stream as the arguments?
[09:14:27] <prospectacle> e.g. propert = between("I bought some milk but it smells like cheese", "it", "like");
[09:14:36] <prospectacle> s/propert/property/
[09:14:36] <SedBot> <prospectacle> e.g. property = between("I bought some milk but it smells like cheese", "it", "like");
[09:14:58] <Subsentient> In my case that would be this, bear with me:
[09:15:16] <Subsentient> const char *One = "it", *Two = "like";
[09:15:28] <crutchy> $arr1=explode(":","here is my request: blue car with leather seats. Also some pie"); arr2=explode(".",$arr1[1]); echo $arr2[0];
[09:15:31] <Subsentient> hmm
[09:15:37] <crutchy> bit of a hack
[09:15:41] <Subsentient> I see what you mean
[09:15:46] <Subsentient> so, search for a string then?
[09:16:17] <prospectacle> Basically, like strpos + another strpos + substr between the two strpos results.
[09:16:25] <Subsentient> prospectacle: That function will be a pain in the ass for return values. Would it work if I had it require two pointers, and just get what's in between them?
[09:16:29] <prospectacle> That's the main reson I use strpos, to get what's after or before it, or between two of them.
[09:16:54] <prospectacle> Subsentient, because return values would be of unknown length? or some other reason?
[09:17:25] <Subsentient> prospectacle: Because, I first have to make sure that both halves of your search exist in the string before I can get you what's between them
[09:17:48] <Subsentient> But, I'll write it nonetheless.
[09:17:58] <Subsentient> prospectacle: Compose a list of string functions you want to see.
[09:18:38] <prospectacle> true. Well if you can do it, I think I'm not the only one who would use. But you never know. I'm no good at vanilla c anyway. I only use c++ cause I have to, and it has string libraries (which still suck).
[09:19:14] <Subsentient> prospectacle: Vanilla C can be very elegant.
[09:20:16] <prospectacle> Ok I'll keep a list. If you had a journal page about the project (given that there are no "project" pages, it would be a good place to pool requests/suggestions/updates
[09:20:29] <Subsentient> prospectacle: Perhaps :^)
[09:20:37] <Subsentient> First, I will write this function you wanted
[09:21:20] <prospectacle> Maybe they'll add "project" pages to peoples profiles. that would be pretty awesome. I daresay a lot of the people who are attracted to a site like this have pet projects
[09:21:27] <prospectacle> or feedback for other people's pet projects
[09:22:00] <prospectacle> Thanks. You're a gentleman and a scholar.
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[09:33:15] <Subsentient> prospectacle: That was easy
[09:33:25] <Subsentient> I expected something convoluted for that
[09:33:31] <Subsentient> but it turned out to be one of my easier functions
[09:33:40] <Subsentient> thanks to the pre-existence of SubStrings.Find() :^)
[09:34:39] <prospectacle> Wow. 12 minutes.
[09:35:16] <prospectacle> nice one
[09:35:42] <Subsentient> prospectacle: I had to test it
[09:35:51] <Subsentient> That took a little time
[09:36:10] <prospectacle> lol
[09:37:57] <Subsentient> prospectacle: I just want to not have to fuck with all the string manipulation anymore. I figured if I made it public domain, it would be easier for project maintainers to just build substrings.c in, and include substrings,h
[09:38:49] <prospectacle> Agreed. Public Domain = widespread wealth and progress
[09:39:21] <prospectacle> Well, put it up somewhere people can easily find/comment, or else no one will use it. This site could be good, or something similar.
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[09:45:42] <crutchy> delphi strings unit
[09:45:55] <arti> php string handling ftw
[09:46:25] <crutchy> woops that was meant to go in a google search... fucking dual screens :-P
[09:46:34] <crutchy> i think it's actually strutils.pas
[09:46:39] <arti> the one that usually gets me is scrolling
[09:46:50] * arti will have focus on the irc client, and is looking at a webpage
[09:46:56] * arti scrolls the "page"
[09:46:57] <prospectacle> are delphi strings AnsiString()?
[09:47:13] <prospectacle> arti lol
[09:47:14] <crutchy> yeah
[09:47:29] <prospectacle> arti: show us any good examples u find
[09:47:32] <crutchy> i think separate though
[09:47:41] <arti> of what
[09:47:48] <crutchy> bad scrolling i think
[09:47:50] <arti> slickest way to get the mid?
[09:48:06] <crutchy> reposted: http://heaven.internetarchaeology.org
[09:49:32] <prospectacle> arti sorry, was only half paying attention. mixed you and crutchy up
[09:49:45] <arti> it's cool :)
[09:50:15] <crutchy> php's explode function ftw
[09:50:30] <arti> i'll admit it has some nice text wrangling features
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[09:51:25] <prospectacle> one problem with AnsiString I have, what if you want to find the second, (or last) position of a string in a string.
[09:51:26] <crutchy> have a look about 3 mins after you posted your original "here is my request: blue car with leather seats. Also some pie" example
[09:51:29] <prospectacle> have to loop through the characters
[09:51:44] <crutchy> there's a $ missing from the declaration of $arr2 but otherwise should work
[09:53:25] <crutchy> you could have a look at the source code for explode if you wanted to port it to C/C++
[09:54:16] <arti> or you can go the framework route and use qt simply for the qstring :D you'll then be like jquery peeps
[09:54:24] <prospectacle> yeah explode + trim + strrpos = easy
[09:55:12] <crutchy> actually looks like php's explode function is written in C anyway
[09:55:19] <crutchy> https://github.com
[09:55:22] <prospectacle> js is one place i hate libraries. every page has 2mb of bloat for like 3 functions they could have written themselves
[09:55:49] <prospectacle> yes most of php is in c, if i'm not mistaken
[09:55:50] <arti> js is by far not the biggest bloat
[09:56:01] <crutchy> php_explode function on linked page
[09:56:27] <arti> its pretty crazy how much memory the dom can chew up for "js apps"
[09:56:30] <prospectacle> cool
[09:57:04] <Subsentient> Real men code in low level languages.
[09:57:12] <prospectacle> arti, true. u gotta be careful w/ dom & ram
[09:57:32] <arti> Subsentient: enjoy building your structures out of legos
[09:57:40] <arti> s/legos/LEGO
[09:57:40] <SedBot> orti, did you know there's THREE slashes in a proper s/// command?
[09:57:42] <arti> s/legos/LEGO/
[09:57:42] <SedBot> <arti> Subsentient: enjoy building your structures out of LEGO
[09:57:43] <crutchy> i'm sure you could come up with an asm version of explode
[09:57:45] <crutchy> :-P
[09:58:08] <Subsentient> crutchy: Funny thing is, I can.t
[09:58:19] <Subsentient> Learning x86 ASM has been on my agenda for a long time
[09:58:26] <Subsentient> I know the very, very basics
[09:58:31] <crutchy> i would love to learn asm, but i'm lazy and stupid
[09:58:36] <Subsentient> but for anything useful? Can;t
[09:58:41] <Subsentient> crutchy: Hurr derp derp
[09:59:12] <prospectacle> I like js cause you can immediately run it on any machine. Any virtues of the language itself are a bonus
[09:59:29] <crutchy> i know delphi supports inline asm and i wanted to take advantage of that, but meh
[09:59:33] <Subsentient> prospectacle: I just added a way to decide if you want Split() to put the delimiter in half one, two, or delete the half
[09:59:37] <Subsentient> wait
[09:59:44] <Subsentient> s/delete the half/delete the delimiter/
[09:59:48] <Subsentient> ...
[10:00:08] <prospectacle> Subsentient, good idea. You might want to keep them or not.
[10:00:22] <Subsentient> Yeah. I can think of lots of times.
[10:00:32] <crutchy> if you just delete them, they can easily be concatenated by the user
[10:00:49] <prospectacle> brb, gotta make dinner
[10:01:01] <Subsentient> crutchy: Sure, but the point of my library is to make strings NOT a pain in the ass.
[10:01:15] <crutchy> prospectacle, you in same tz as me dude
[10:01:31] <Subsentient> crutchy: I did something interesting just to make the library feel "nice and OO".
[10:01:45] <crutchy> strings aren't really that much of a pain; you just need to use lazy languages like object pascal or php :-)
[10:01:53] <Subsentient> I use a function pointer filled struct as the only external object in the header file :^)
[10:02:07] <Subsentient> everything else is a static function
[10:02:27] <Subsentient> Makes it feel nice and object oriented for the C++ tards.
[10:02:34] <Subsentient> e.g. SubStrings.Find(arg, arg)
[10:03:03] <prospectacle> crutchy, arse end of the world ftw
[10:03:55] <crutchy> yeah
[10:04:09] * crutchy rides koala to the outback dunny
[10:06:45] * prospectacle is watching "Mad As Hell" on iview
[10:11:05] * Subsentient chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at prospectacle
[10:11:58] <kobach> rofl
[10:13:40] * Subsentient is likely fruity in the coconut
[10:17:54] <Subsentient> prospectacle: You gonna make a list of string functions you want to see?
[10:18:20] <prospectacle> let me just look back at your existing list
[10:18:44] <arti> gonna get my read on, catch you guys later
[10:18:49] <kobach> k
[10:18:51] * arti will see where the string stuff is later
[10:18:55] * arti salutes
[10:18:59] <kobach> almost 420 here
[10:19:04] <arti> noice
[10:19:13] * arti tosses kobach the vape pen
[10:19:15] <kobach> 1 min
[10:19:46] <prospectacle> subsentient: last occurence of a string would be good
[10:20:18] <kobach> and thats how i do things
[10:20:21] <kobach> smoke on both 420s
[10:20:34] * kobach exhales
[10:20:34] <Subsentient> prospectacle: Will do.
[10:20:35] <IT_freak> guys, may i vent; this guy i know is basically bragging about pussy all the time
[10:20:46] <IT_freak> how do i tell him to "stfu" and that nobody cares?
[10:20:58] <Subsentient> IT_freak: To quoth the Universe, permission denied.
[10:21:03] <kobach> "yea i dont really care"
[10:21:17] <arti> "well i've heard you are what you eat..."
[10:21:23] <IT_freak> ^
[10:21:26] <kobach> "you didnt exactly discover somthing new"
[10:21:28] <prospectacle> IT_freak. Tell him, wow I'm starting to think ur gay with how much you need us to know about the women you sleep with
[10:21:37] <IT_freak> oh. shoot.
[10:21:38] <kobach> ^
[10:21:40] <prospectacle> Since why does he brag if he doesn't watn you to think he's super ladies man
[10:21:51] <IT_freak> thanks for advice; i should give you a background advice though
[10:22:02] <IT_freak> he's 46 and went through a divorce; and fucked some 26 year old vietnamese girl
[10:22:09] <kobach> lol
[10:22:12] <IT_freak> motherfucker is just bitter about the marraiage i figured
[10:22:20] <IT_freak> he "just" finished paying child support afaik
[10:22:31] <arti> hahahahahahaAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[10:22:33] <kobach> looks like he just got laid for the first time in 10 years too
[10:22:34] <Subsentient> IT_freak: Sounds logical
[10:22:36] <IT_freak> his oldest kid turning 18 and shit
[10:22:38] <IT_freak> fucking hell
[10:22:41] <IT_freak> so the verdict is:
[10:22:44] <IT_freak> do i avoid him or what
[10:22:47] <kobach> i would
[10:22:53] <IT_freak> god damnit >.>
[10:22:57] <IT_freak> kobach, why do u have to be right
[10:23:00] <Subsentient> IT_freak: Are you afraid to insult youself?
[10:23:03] <kobach> or do you like him
[10:23:04] <prospectacle> Subsentient: find nth occurence of string, (from start or end). Get substring from the end of a string (e.g. substring("test.text", -4) == "text"
[10:23:08] <IT_freak> No, i have no self esteem issues / trust issues
[10:23:13] <IT_freak> it's just that he's fucking smart at IT
[10:23:16] <IT_freak> but he's a creeper for life
[10:23:25] <kobach> yea i just avoid those people
[10:23:26] <IT_freak> he does automation shit
[10:23:27] <Subsentient> IT_freak: Then tell him "You're making me depressed."
[10:23:34] <IT_freak> oh just be honest about it? i see
[10:23:35] <kobach> when i meet someone id rather not be around, i stop being around them
[10:23:42] <IT_freak> i'll let you guys know how it goes ^^
[10:23:50] <IT_freak> kobach: he's my landlord, fyi
[10:23:54] <kobach> LOL
[10:23:56] <kobach> well fuck
[10:23:58] <IT_freak> i'll try though; seems like he needs his own medicine
[10:24:02] <IT_freak> No, it's not that hard; we'll se
[10:24:03] <IT_freak> see*
[10:24:07] * Subsentient has no issues with creepers as long as they have good ethics.
[10:24:14] <IT_freak> subsentient i agree
[10:24:18] <kobach> that and act like normal people
[10:24:23] <IT_freak> it's just that..... he treats me like shit b/c i don't know "security"
[10:24:36] <kobach> like it security
[10:24:39] <kobach> or physical
[10:24:42] <IT_freak> and gets real paranoid about hacking
[10:24:46] <kobach> LOL
[10:24:46] <IT_freak> IT security, yes
[10:24:49] <kobach> tell him about the NSA
[10:24:52] <IT_freak> he brags fucking automation so much it hurts
[10:25:20] <Subsentient> IT_freak: Tell him to keep it under wraps or his new Vietnamese girlfriend might get something automated instead
[10:25:22] <IT_freak> his occupational hazard is getting to his head; god im so worried
[10:25:29] <IT_freak> Subsentient: lmao....
[10:26:44] <prospectacle> IT_freak, braggers want you to be impressed. That's the pay off. If they don't get it, they probably ramp up for a while, then give up.
[10:27:09] <Subsentient> IT_freak: You could act disappointed it wasn't a tentacle monster.
[10:27:23] <IT_freak> so "You're supposed to get pussy/you're making me depressed"
[10:27:39] <IT_freak> he just like says "oh i'll help you learn" or whatever; he knows i'm only 22 so he's just fucking with me
[10:27:56] <IT_freak> wow and you guys give such great advice; why aren't you getting paid more
[10:28:06] <prospectacle> lol
[10:28:09] <Subsentient> IT_freak: Because we live in our parent's basements.
[10:28:14] <IT_freak> seems like having great insights aren't being compensated enough
[10:28:30] <prospectacle> IT_freak, try that kind of sarcasm with him and he'll shut up quick.
[10:28:32] <IT_freak> Hey subsentient, don't say that T_T i'm going out with a girl who still lives with their parents; it's complicated
[10:28:43] <IT_freak> some people just don't grow up with lots of $$ u know
[10:28:56] <Subsentient> IT_freak: Not anymore it isn't. ^ you made my point. The economy etc
[10:29:02] <Subsentient> I understand.
[10:29:04] <IT_freak> prospectacle: lol sarcasm; great idea.
[10:29:16] <MrBluze> hmm.. yellow books, gray books
[10:29:25] <IT_freak> MrBluze: what about them books
[10:29:45] <MrBluze> oh.. saw the link in a comment on sn
[10:29:52] <IT_freak> Subsentient: i know you're cool; it's all good, i just wanted to say that ^^
[10:30:53] <Subsentient> IT_freak: If he starts bragging about tentacle monsters, then we'll talk.
[10:31:17] <IT_freak> he's smart but not bright; i have the opposite problem, except i'm willing to learn
[10:31:25] <IT_freak> and make up the difference
[10:32:07] <IT_freak> i thoght we all do that >.>
[10:32:31] <Subsentient> IT_freak: I'm not an observant person, and I'm very forgetful. I can't visualize, so, yes, I come off as two bits short of a byte quite often.
[10:32:37] <MrBluze> IT_freak: re: them books - i read somewhere, but can't remember where now, that intel cpu's after 2009 or maybe later, have gsm radios in them ? some kind of sim card that can phone home .. i dunno.. but only saw one source and never confirmed
[10:32:51] <IT_freak> MrBluze: lololololol you gotta be kidding
[10:33:03] * Subsentient does not believe that
[10:33:04] <IT_freak> Subsentient: you have a bug
[10:33:09] <arti> MrBluze: i also read somewhere online that lizard men...
[10:33:17] <Subsentient> arti++
[10:33:17] <MrBluze> lol
[10:33:17] <Bender> karma - arti: 33
[10:33:30] <MrBluze> well i wouldn't know i just read about it
[10:33:44] <Subsentient> I don't think they do that in desktop chips
[10:33:44] <arti> make a tinfoil hat for your processor
[10:33:47] <IT_freak> what's another one; lochness monster
[10:33:54] <arti> they do it via USB dongles
[10:33:57] <IT_freak> arti: tinfoil processor
[10:34:12] <MrBluze> well the'res the hypervisor on it
[10:34:15] <Subsentient> Intel's codename for their 2015 chip? Reynold's.
[10:34:22] <arti> haha
[10:34:31] <IT_freak> lol well ain't that some shit o_o
[10:35:11] <crutchy> only 2 more regression test cases to debug wooohoo!
[10:35:36] <Subsentient> crutchy: How is it you people can code for hours and still be able to work?
[10:35:40] <IT_freak> haswell is great imo; 15w with 4 hyperthreads
[10:35:56] <Subsentient> I become dead tired in minutes and I lose focus immediately almost
[10:35:57] <crutchy> i'm not really coding for hours... i do a bit here and there
[10:36:05] <Subsentient> it took me months and months to write Epoch.
[10:36:09] <crutchy> play with my kids in between
[10:36:19] <crutchy> i was on the floor building lego stuff before dinner
[10:36:20] <IT_freak> teach kids eventually ^^
[10:36:23] * arti won't go there
[10:36:28] <Subsentient> If I could code straight thru, I could have finished Epoch in a week.
[10:36:40] <IT_freak> Subsentient: you would have to be on crack 24/7
[10:36:53] <IT_freak> it's okay; not worth the health
[10:37:03] <arti> on the bright side, it's cheap
[10:37:09] <Subsentient> arti++
[10:37:09] <Bender> karma - arti: 34
[10:37:11] <IT_freak> arti: talk about micromanagement..
[10:37:20] <crutchy> if i debugged my refactored php from when i integrated it last night, it should have taken me a couple of hours tops. as it is has taken me over 12 hours hours here and there
[10:37:28] <prospectacle> Subsentient, how long does a normal coding session last before you get tired?
[10:37:42] <Subsentient> prospectacle: 10 - 25 mins.
[10:37:56] <IT_freak> lol "this shit is boring, give me a break"
[10:37:56] <Subsentient> But, it's important to note: I am ALWAYS tired.
[10:38:00] <prospectacle> Subsentient, what if you do 20 mins on, 20 min rest, repeat, is that sustainable?
[10:38:01] <crutchy> depends how into it i am... if i'm on a roll i can code for hours
[10:38:06] <Subsentient> I am always, always tired. I haven't been awake in 10 years.
[10:38:12] <IT_freak> crutchy: on a roll like a snowball
[10:38:13] <Subsentient> prospectacle: No.
[10:38:20] <Subsentient> I wake up tired.
[10:38:26] * MrBluze goes off to find the link
[10:38:29] <prospectacle> I see
[10:38:31] <Subsentient> But sometimes I am so tired I forget I am tired
[10:38:34] <Subsentient> and that's when I code
[10:38:37] <crutchy> delphi is good for long stints
[10:38:56] <arti> i'm not familiar wiht that datatype
[10:39:09] <prospectacle> sub, much sypathy. I hate being tired. is it lack of sleep, or other?
[10:39:13] <Subsentient> arti: It's like unsigned short, but with more aerosol cheese.
[10:39:13] <arti> are those standard ints?
[10:39:25] <Subsentient> prospectacle: Nobody can figure out why.
[10:39:26] <IT_freak> prospectacle: lack of motivation?
[10:39:54] <Subsentient> prospectacle: My mind went berserk on me a while back, and the incalculable pain forced me to "shut down" the logic parts of my thinking
[10:40:00] <IT_freak> you probably aren't being paid enough? xD
[10:40:02] <Subsentient> so starting up my brain to code is very hard
[10:40:04] <crutchy> mmm spinach pasta
[10:40:06] <crutchy> yummmmm
[10:40:22] <prospectacle> Wow the brain is complicated. I hope one day mental science is anywhere near advanced as other sciences
[10:40:26] <crutchy> or is it aptttttttttt :-P
[10:40:54] <IT_freak> prospectacle: you just need to make a sane decision and put a mind to it? i don't think it's that complicated
[10:41:07] <IT_freak> it's probably the receptors/chemical imbalances
[10:41:28] <arti> chemical imbalances
[10:41:39] <IT_freak> lack of dopamine? :D
[10:41:41] <prospectacle> IT_freak, lol, well if that's all it is, I guess we can do away with the field entirely.
[10:41:42] <arti> that's such a great quack term
[10:41:54] <kobach> does your diet consist of a lot of factory food
[10:42:14] <IT_freak> kobach: this is a very serious question. nice kobach lol
[10:42:15] <Subsentient> Yes. Factories are the crunch I can't resist.
[10:42:21] <IT_freak> Subsentient: lmao
[10:43:41] <MrBluze> https://www.techdirt.com
[10:43:46] <MrBluze> there
[10:43:46] * Subsentient is not coding right now, and he really needs to be
[10:44:04] <kobach> MrBluze: soylentnews.org/submissions
[10:44:06] <IT_freak> arti: how is it quack >.> im pretty sure we don't know all the chemicals out there >.>
[10:44:17] <IT_freak> or how we react to certain things
[10:44:26] <arti> that doesn't stop them from perscribing the shit
[10:44:37] <Subsentient> IT_freak: We know them, but some of them smell bad, so nobody bothers to name them.
[10:44:37] <arti> prescribing
[10:44:41] <MrBluze> its old
[10:44:42] <IT_freak> i wasn't defending the doctors; they suck in general, i agree
[10:44:54] <kobach> i thought it sounded familiar
[10:45:04] <IT_freak> arti: they do it for the sake of money :( i guess it's sad
[10:45:15] <Subsentient> I can't remember the last time I went to the doctor and came home without meds
[10:45:15] <MrBluze> from january .. too old
[10:45:34] <IT_freak> Subsentient: lol you always deliver with nice punchlines >.>
[10:46:08] <IT_freak> alternative medicine > eastern + western?
[10:46:14] <Subsentient> IT_freak: That's why I always have a headache.
[10:46:40] * Subsentient laughs at his vague, unfunny joke
[10:47:57] <IT_freak> ^_^ /
[10:49:45] <MrBluze> doctors give out drugs because too many people complain when they don't
[10:50:07] <IT_freak> http://torrentfreak.com
[10:50:11] <IT_freak> Finally 2014 delivered
[10:50:13] <MrBluze> they otherwise don't care - they know full well u dont need em, they just know it's legally safer to give drugs out
[10:50:22] <IT_freak> thank you torrentfreak x_x
[10:51:03] <IT_freak> MrBluze: talk about michael jackson's death
[10:51:17] <IT_freak> xanax, pcp, etc
[10:51:24] <MrBluze> IT_freak: in that case it was a doc working WAY outside his expertise
[10:51:46] <IT_freak> MrBluze: or maybe michael asked? the world may never know >.>
[10:51:50] <MrBluze> probably cause a dozen other docs refused
[10:52:01] <IT_freak> MrBluze: and a dozen accepted, accourding to sources
[10:52:08] <prospectacle> MrBluze, I agree with you, mostly it's people expecting easy drugs to fix their difficult lifestyle problems.
[10:52:09] <IT_freak> i guess some of em just wanted to get paid
[10:52:12] <MrBluze> yeah but a doc doesnt listen to stupid requests - u never get away with it
[10:52:17] <prospectacle> a lot of people think anti-biotics will fix their cold or flu
[10:52:34] <IT_freak> but then again, some of them just wanted to get paid
[10:52:37] <IT_freak> prospectacle: True.
[10:52:37] <MrBluze> if u send a person away with nothing, they go .. pfff i spent $30 for nuthing
[10:52:58] <MrBluze> and they go to the next doc
[10:53:09] <MrBluze> ppl are generally thick as bricks
[10:53:29] <IT_freak> MrBluze: i can't blame neither the patient nor doctor specifically; it differs on every situation
[10:53:47] <IT_freak> depends who the idiot is; but afaik it's hard to determine unless that idiot fesses it
[10:53:54] <MrBluze> IT_freak: it's just pattern forming ... and the drug companies advertise the wonders of drugs etc.. so ppl expect to go to the doc and get a pill
[10:54:11] <IT_freak> MrBluze: oh i hate doctors giving out pills; let's see if they like to swallow their own shit
[10:54:14] <prospectacle> It's mostly drug companies, pressuring both ends to use drugs far beyond need
[10:54:25] <IT_freak> that should be regulated; shouldn't even have a 2nd thought about it
[10:54:28] <MrBluze> u go to the shop and walk home with shit in your bag, u go to the hair dresser (females mostly) and expect to look different on the way out
[10:54:38] <MrBluze> so if u walk out of a doctors surgery with nothing but some advice in your head ..
[10:54:51] <prospectacle> In america drug companies can advertise prescription drugs directly to consumers. all they have to add is ("ask your doctor", etc). Scary
[10:54:59] <MrBluze> yeah
[10:55:06] <MrBluze> but its still the same in australia - just more subtle
[10:55:27] <IT_freak> ask your doctor; no, threaten him if he won't give it to you
[10:55:32] <prospectacle> In aus, if I'm not mistaken only over-the-counter can be advertised on telly, etc
[10:55:38] <MrBluze> prospectacle: yes
[10:55:41] <IT_freak> (sorry just being sarcastic)
[10:55:43] <crutchy> or in spam
[10:55:49] <MrBluze> lol IT_freak its funny cause its true
[10:55:50] <prospectacle> Doctors do get fancy mugs and pens from drug reps, though.
[10:56:01] <MrBluze> prospectacle: .. which are mostly useless
[10:56:07] <MrBluze> they used to get good stuff once
[10:56:10] * MrBluze grins
[10:56:12] <IT_freak> prospectacle: and fancy assholes aren't they.
[10:56:18] <prospectacle> Just creates a feeling of debt/reciprocity
[10:56:28] <MrBluze> well its different now
[10:56:40] <MrBluze> if the doc's prescribing rates are low, the drug company starts harassing him/her
[10:56:47] <prospectacle> wow
[10:56:54] <MrBluze> why u no prescribe, huh? u know u r taking risks .. etc
[10:56:59] <IT_freak> so where does the law step in lol
[10:57:08] <MrBluze> they know because pharmacies report which doc etc
[10:57:14] <MrBluze> esp the big chains
[10:57:22] <prospectacle> my solution: remove drug patents, award $million to whichever uni makes (and releases to public domain) best drug breakthrough each month.
[10:57:26] <prospectacle> We'd save money overall.
[10:57:48] <crutchy> you a michael crichton fan too huh :-)
[10:57:49] <MrBluze> and they do the occasional "Patient sues doc for not prescribing drug" story
[10:58:08] <MrBluze> just to be 'helpful'
[10:58:11] <prospectacle> What did Michael Crichton say? (not read him)
[10:58:30] <IT_freak> MrBluze: wow, why do people think that throwing lawbook around is cool
[10:58:34] <crutchy> he was very outspoken against any kind of medical patent
[10:58:48] <IT_freak> that's the last thing you'd ever want in life; whether criminal or civil
[10:58:58] <prospectacle> crutchy, guess I agree with him then. i'm against patents in general. they do far more to restrict innovation than reward it
[10:59:01] <crutchy> he was the guy that wrote jurassic park etc
[10:59:03] <prospectacle> not that it's all one sided.
[10:59:10] <crutchy> yeah me too
[10:59:15] <crutchy> patents suck donkey dick
[10:59:20] <prospectacle> agreed
[10:59:23] <IT_freak> prospectacle: torrentfreak agrees with you
[10:59:24] <MrBluze> IT_freak: .. cause if u are in a suburb where 2/3 of ppl are on benefits, and there is a chance of a payout - it's like a lottery .. and no-win-no-pay is too attractive
[10:59:33] <crutchy> they don't serve the little inventor guy at all
[10:59:45] <IT_freak> MrBluze: ahh good old "fuck you pay me" xD
[10:59:57] <MrBluze> yep
[11:00:05] <MrBluze> so it all falls into the hands of the ol' pharmaceutical company
[11:00:19] <IT_freak> yeah they just wanna suck that ol' dick
[11:00:21] <IT_freak> >.>
[11:00:24] <MrBluze> they are the same as big tobacco, same old same old
[11:00:54] <IT_freak> we should kill every business that's not productive to society, just because
[11:00:56] <prospectacle> big tobacco taking aus. to court for "plain packaging", they are using the free-trade contract clause that was designed to stop a government nationalising a company.
[11:01:06] <MrBluze> yeah
[11:01:08] <prospectacle> the nerve
[11:01:16] <MrBluze> now which tobacco company changed its name to Altria
[11:01:21] <MrBluze> was it Philip Morris?
[11:01:44] <prospectacle> dunno
[11:01:47] <crutchy> if iinet can beat down mpaa and their cronies, straya can beat big tobacco
[11:01:54] <MrBluze> Altria was the name of a cancer research company ... but they got somehow sued, and had to give the name up to the tobacco company
[11:01:57] <crutchy> fuck big tobacco!
[11:01:58] <IT_freak> oh shit iinet
[11:01:59] <prospectacle> crutchy, let's bloody hope so. People are watching
[11:02:01] <MrBluze> and the tobacco company then went into pharmaceuticals
[11:02:04] <IT_freak> MPAA/RIAA is fucking devil
[11:02:18] <IT_freak> they've been around forever, how do you kill them >.>
[11:02:30] <prospectacle> IT_freak, you starve them
[11:02:41] <IT_freak> prospectacle: lol the most painful death >.>
[11:02:47] <crutchy> you just need an honest aussie judge to say "mpaa... FUCK YOU!"
[11:02:54] <MrBluze> lol yeah
[11:03:00] <IT_freak> crutchy: we're having difficult even in US; i dunno about aussie, no offense
[11:03:04] <MrBluze> crutchy: need a country that isnt 5 eyes to do it
[11:03:08] <crutchy> and we're lucky we have them
[11:03:12] <IT_freak> motherfuckers still wanna get paid without morals; fuckem all
[11:03:21] <crutchy> iinet already beat the mpaa
[11:03:22] <IT_freak> i hate lawyers for this reason
[11:03:45] <IT_freak> no consequences for being anal in trials
[11:03:46] <MrBluze> crutchy: yeah i pay them money as a token of thanks
[11:04:03] <crutchy> iinet are fucking legends
[11:04:25] <prospectacle> IT_freak: regulatory capture in US
[11:04:33] <IT_freak> regulatory capture?
[11:04:44] <IT_freak> sorry, i'm not sure what you're elaborating
[11:04:57] <crutchy> but so is judge that slapped the US bastards with a great big legal glove
[11:05:08] <prospectacle> IT_freak: a govt department A is designed to regulate industry X. Industry X donates enough to govt. Now it writes laws for department A
[11:05:11] <IT_freak> why do judges have so much power; it's so ridiculous
[11:05:13] <prospectacle> Regulatory capture
[11:05:26] <IT_freak> oh. u mean mandatory asslick
[11:05:27] <crutchy> it was like a real life version of "the castle"
[11:05:54] <crutchy> except no dennis denuto :-(
[11:06:04] <MrBluze> well iinet knew that if they didnt fight this, they lose to telstra
[11:06:12] <MrBluze> and if they win, they kick ass
[11:07:02] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[11:07:06] <crutchy> lmfao!
[11:07:48] <IT_freak> hey kanye west, do you like fishsticks
[11:07:58] <IT_freak> i bet kim k does
[11:09:02] <IT_freak> now everyone tweet this! gogo >.> haha
[11:13:53] <prospectacle> iinet++
[11:13:53] <Bender> karma - iinet: 1
[11:15:55] <MrBluze> iinet++
[11:15:55] <Bender> karma - iinet: 2
[11:17:52] <crutchy> iinet++
[11:17:52] <Bender> karma - iinet: 3
[11:18:05] <IT_freak> mpaa-
[11:18:09] <IT_freak> mpaa--
[11:18:09] <Bender> karma - mpaa: -1
[11:18:12] <IT_freak> riaa--
[11:18:12] <Bender> karma - riaa: -1
[11:18:19] <IT_freak> sorry i'm a hater ^^
[11:19:22] <Konomi> iinet--
[11:19:22] <Bender> karma - iinet: 2
[11:19:32] <Konomi> off peak quotas
[11:19:42] <prospectacle> lol
[11:19:46] <IT_freak> iinet++
[11:19:46] <Bender> karma - iinet: 3
[11:19:51] <IT_freak> top peak performance u mean
[11:19:53] <Konomi> 120gb of quota
[11:19:55] <Konomi> split in half
[11:20:02] <Konomi> of which half can only be used at 2am-8am
[11:20:07] <Konomi> no respect
[11:20:11] <IT_freak> i'll split your face in half and make banana milkshake
[11:20:20] <Konomi> oh oh wait
[11:20:21] <IT_freak> banana split* bah
[11:20:23] <Konomi> lets have an inernet fight
[11:20:28] <Konomi> put your dukes up
[11:20:28] <IT_freak> e-pen15
[11:20:34] <IT_freak> dukes?
[11:20:43] <Konomi> your fists...
[11:20:47] <prospectacle> regex battle
[11:20:49] <IT_freak> my dick is up..
[11:20:59] <IT_freak> ohai
[11:21:05] <prospectacle> s/fists/lawn ornaments/
[11:21:13] <MrBluze> thanks for the heads up.. so to speak
[11:21:17] <IT_freak> prospectacle: Nah. (sarcasm)
[11:21:27] <IT_freak> MrBluze: yes thank you YOU GOT THE JOKE HAHA
[11:21:37] <IT_freak> the tip is sharp, my friend ^^
[11:21:47] <Konomi> at least something you have is sharp ;p
[11:21:49] <IT_freak> it can cut(slang for sex)
[11:22:07] <MrBluze> lol Konomi
[11:22:13] <IT_freak> it can cut bread, that bun you know
[11:22:34] <MrBluze> so, IT_freak how come we havent seen u on here before? where u been lurkin mate
[11:22:53] <IT_freak> mmm hotdog sounds good about now
[11:22:54] <IT_freak> i was auto_def, aka hax0rz
[11:22:58] <IT_freak> i just like myself better i guess ^^
[11:23:20] <IT_freak> MrBluze: lurking in closet, idk xD
[11:23:34] <MrBluze> okay
[11:23:46] <MrBluze> ah that makes sense now
[11:23:48] <MrBluze> :)
[11:23:50] <IT_freak> nothing; not having job sucks /end discussion
[11:24:08] <MrBluze> yeah that it does
[11:24:08] <IT_freak> (end discussion) (/end discussion)
[11:24:18] <MrBluze> end end discussion?
[11:24:24] * Konomi falls off her chair
[11:24:27] <IT_freak> oh. shoot >.>
[11:24:27] <prospectacle> IT_freak: </discussion>
[11:24:39] <IT_freak> well it's more specific so... whatever ^^
[11:24:48] <IT_freak> prospectacle: yes that, ty
[11:25:02] <IT_freak> MrBluze: or end /end
[11:25:13] <IT_freak> double /end for emphasis ^^
[11:25:23] <IT_freak> can't emphasize enough xD
[11:25:43] <IT_freak> ahh too many choices >.> you guys r awesome
[11:26:36] <MrBluze> .. eof?
[11:26:53] <MrBluze> u just say EOF and that's it
[11:27:02] <MrBluze> cant remember which 0x it was
[11:28:16] <IT_freak> sounds about right; to each their own
[11:28:26] <IT_freak> ain't no preferred method out there ^^
[11:28:44] <IT_freak> 0xFFFFFFF
[11:29:36] <IT_freak> try again? ^^
[11:29:39] <MrBluze> well for an .exe and .com .. they have to end with eof
[11:29:50] <MrBluze> thats 3 bytes
[11:30:02] <IT_freak> 0xFail
[11:30:05] <chromas> and a half
[11:30:09] * Subsentient thought you were talking about EOF in stdio.h, which is -1
[11:30:21] <MrBluze> 3.5 bytes
[11:30:40] <IT_freak> Subsentient: honestly, i made a wild guess lol idk
[11:30:54] <prospectacle> \0;\n />"
[11:30:58] <prospectacle> Ends everything
[11:31:02] <MrBluze> i gotta google it
[11:31:10] <Subsentient> MrBluze: no
[11:31:17] <Subsentient> MrBluze: Duck it instead.
[11:31:27] <Subsentient> https://duckduckgo.com
[11:31:42] <prospectacle> duckduckgo++
[11:31:42] <Bender> karma - duckduckgo: 1
[11:31:43] <prospectacle> adsense--
[11:31:43] <IT_freak> duckduckFUCK
[11:31:43] <Bender> karma - adsense: -1
[11:31:47] <MrBluze> used to be ctrl-z
[11:32:06] <MrBluze> in cp/m
[11:32:13] <Subsentient> IT_freak: Hmm, are you also really nuts, with a hint of autism?
[11:32:18] <Subsentient> MY BROTHER!!!
[11:32:19] <MrBluze> Ascii 26
[11:32:47] <Subsentient> TOGETHER WE SHALL COVER OUR GENITALS IN PEANUT BUTTER AND BLOCK TRAFFIC!!!
[11:32:48] <IT_freak> Subsentient: lol i was just acting immature haha sry
[11:33:03] <IT_freak> Subsentient: peanut butter jelly time
[11:33:08] * Subsentient busts up
[11:33:16] <IT_freak> D:
[11:34:27] <IT_freak> MrBluze: computer languages are amazing; i wish they were appreciated more and not get called "nerds" by idiots
[11:34:29] <Bender> [ksuhku] god i love irc
[11:34:48] <IT_freak> ksuhku, we hate you too
[11:35:21] <MrBluze> yeah they are kinda cool
[11:35:39] <IT_freak> i mean i speak some foreign languages but still..
[11:35:50] <IT_freak> learning them is a bitch but life is a bitch by default, u know?
[11:36:00] <MrBluze> i only got to play with cp/m for a short time .. on an ibm pc .. some kind of dark grey thing i cant remember what model it was.. it booted to BASIC
[11:36:16] <MrBluze> cp/m and dos v1
[11:36:24] <Konomi> I do not miss line numbers
[11:37:13] <prospectacle> Konomi: s/I/10:print I/
[11:37:13] <SedBot> <prospectacle> <Konomi> 10:print I do not miss line numbers
[11:37:32] <MrBluze> goto 10
[11:37:42] <Konomi> evil
[11:38:36] <prospectacle> oh man. gwbasic = nostalgia
[11:39:57] <crutchy> ooooh subsentient.... i'll go get my blue crayons
[11:40:13] <crutchy> and lube up my tongue for some long window licking sessions
[11:40:15] <MrBluze> basicA
[11:41:09] <prospectacle> What was the apple one, were if you didn't put a disk in you got a basic prompt?
[11:41:09] <crutchy> i have no idea what we're talking aboot
[11:41:17] <Subsentient> crutchy: lol
[11:41:22] <chromas> crutchy: isn't that how they made the default Windows XP theme?
[11:41:30] <Subsentient> I'll bring the traffic cone hats
[11:41:50] <crutchy> that duck on the duckduckgo website looks like it's been sucking a LOT of cock
[11:42:00] <Subsentient> chromas: No, they just took some play-doh and let it dry how it wanted
[11:42:05] <IT_freak> crutchy: omg i said duckduckFUCK earlier; you guys suck
[11:42:41] <crutchy> i think the windows xp theme was made after someone spewed up their taco on a tablecloth
[11:42:59] <Subsentient> crutchy: Who cares anymore
[11:43:06] <Subsentient> if I had to choose between MS and Google, I choose MS
[11:43:14] <Subsentient> At least they are just greedy pricks.
[11:43:15] <prospectacle> Funny how things change
[11:43:18] <IT_freak> Subsentient: why not start your own company? ^^
[11:43:22] <Subsentient> Google has waaay too much power.
[11:43:27] <Subsentient> IT_freak: Because I am a socialist.
[11:43:29] <IT_freak> competition = less douchebaggery
[11:43:34] <IT_freak> oh lmao >.> fine
[11:43:37] <crutchy> yeah i agree... if they didn't make software that totally sucked, microsoft would be alright
[11:43:58] <IT_freak> Subsentient: putin runs a business called gov't
[11:44:04] <IT_freak> so does obama
[11:44:33] <crutchy> obamacorp is just a subsidiary of putincorp :-P
[11:44:40] <IT_freak> obamacorp--
[11:44:40] <Bender> karma - obamacorp: -1
[11:44:49] <Subsentient> I prefer a "horizontal" government.
[11:44:50] <IT_freak> putincorp--
[11:44:50] <Bender> karma - putincorp: -1
[11:44:57] <crutchy> which is a subsidiary of obewankenobicorp
[11:45:03] <IT_freak> Subsentient: you mean no douchebaggery govt
[11:45:10] <Subsentient> I think it can be done in a way, with a thick, verbose, powerful constitution that minimizes corruption and abuse of power
[11:45:18] <Subsentient> IT_freak: Indeed
[11:45:31] <IT_freak> Subsentient: i want george carlin back; he made a great example about burning people on crosses
[11:45:32] <crutchy> yeah... fucking is illegal
[11:45:36] <IT_freak> we need that shit dude
[11:45:42] <crutchy> give it about 70 years and problem solved
[11:45:44] <crutchy> :-P
[11:45:55] <IT_freak> crutchy: fucking is illegal? what are you high on?????
[11:46:07] <crutchy> no humans = no problems
[11:46:10] <Subsentient> crutchy: Or you could just go back in time and keep Black Hat Guy from killing Hitler and hope for a comeback.
[11:46:24] <IT_freak> crutchy: no money whores = no problems
[11:46:35] <crutchy> human = money whore
[11:46:36] <IT_freak> that'd eliminate 99% of the problems; the 1% thugs are pussies
[11:46:39] <Subsentient> No money == no problems
[11:46:44] <IT_freak> crutchy: not me; i like knowledge and discipline
[11:46:54] <crutchy> yeah we all do..... and money
[11:46:55] <IT_freak> reason i'm not a fat murican; im 140 and 5'10"
[11:47:08] <IT_freak> crutchy: and.... not money ^^
[11:47:10] <Subsentient> I weight 216 and I'm 6'3
[11:47:15] <IT_freak> maybe a benz, but money ain't shit ^^
[11:47:30] <IT_freak> time > money
[11:47:36] <IT_freak> knowledge > time
[11:47:38] <crutchy> now who's high?
[11:47:42] <IT_freak> now beat that motherfuckers
[11:48:30] <crutchy> even communism was great in theory
[11:48:30] <IT_freak> therefoe knowledge > money
[11:48:36] <crutchy> but humans are all money whores
[11:48:56] <IT_freak> crutchy: communism had a lot of flaws; hence weak theory
[11:49:06] <crutchy> not really
[11:49:07] <IT_freak> we want that strong kush
[11:49:24] <crutchy> it depended on a small group of people having strong morals
[11:49:39] <crutchy> but nobody who gets power has strong morals
[11:49:50] <IT_freak> strong morals? u mean self-righteous douchebaggery
[11:50:08] <IT_freak> crutchy: reason if you have power, the police should even harass you even more
[11:50:13] <crutchy> yeah pretty much.... that's humanity in a nutshell
[11:50:15] <IT_freak> should harass*
[11:50:23] <Subsentient> crutchy: Communism failed because it allowed people to abuse power, and because it couldn't think of a good way to get people to work, it just forced them to work
[11:50:38] <crutchy> that's how it panned out
[11:50:44] <crutchy> but theory was different
[11:50:46] <IT_freak> russia is scary as fuck; during industralization so many people died like animals
[11:50:59] <IT_freak> nobody knows that so many lives were lost as many as ww2
[11:51:00] <Subsentient> Theory assumed people were caring, kind, and open-minded
[11:51:17] <IT_freak> Subsentient: i assume evil; hence FBI is being funded politically
[11:51:17] <crutchy> communist theory is what all those occupy wall street hippies want
[11:51:22] <crutchy> but it's impossible
[11:51:32] <crutchy> humanity is imperfect
[11:51:37] <Subsentient> No, we need socialism with a twist
[11:51:39] <Subsentient> Not communism
[11:51:40] <IT_freak> imperfectly perfect ^^
[11:51:53] <IT_freak> who's next, hmm
[11:51:53] <Subsentient> IT_freak: Perfectly imperfect.
[11:52:00] <crutchy> socialism, communism... same but different
[11:52:03] <IT_freak> both works ^^
[11:52:15] <IT_freak> crutchy: similarly different ^^ aka oxymoron
[11:52:20] <Subsentient> Communism is Socialism's deranged, badass big brother.
[11:52:23] <crutchy> they're both great in theory
[11:52:24] <Subsentient> Get it? Big Brother?
[11:52:34] <IT_freak> Subsentient: and nukes launch in 3...2....1...
[11:52:36] <Subsentient> lo;
[11:52:49] <IT_freak> gg, humanity EOL
[11:52:50] <crutchy> no forms of socialism have ever worked in practice
[11:53:07] <crutchy> well, they work for some
[11:53:09] <crutchy> in power
[11:53:17] <IT_freak> crutchy: no forms of power have ever worked in practice u mean
[11:53:20] <Subsentient> Well, mild socialism can work
[11:53:31] <crutchy> IT_freak: you're right
[11:53:34] <IT_freak> where are the fucking checks-and-balances when you need them
[11:53:38] <crutchy> no forms of power can work for everyone
[11:53:41] <IT_freak> i learned that in fucking 7th grade in civics
[11:53:47] <IT_freak> how the fuck does gov't officials not know that
[11:53:48] <crutchy> that's why freedom is so great
[11:53:53] <Subsentient> But the stronger stuff fails because people always slap it onto weak governments and expect good results. You can't just have a president and a congress
[11:53:56] <crutchy> free markets and all that shit
[11:53:59] <Subsentient> you need digital democracy, etc
[11:54:02] <crutchy> that's what made america great
[11:54:13] <IT_freak> crutchy: shut up and take my money
[11:54:22] <IT_freak> too bad it made all of us money whores
[11:54:33] <IT_freak> new system, new problems
[11:54:42] <crutchy> free markets just give us what we wanted in the first place
[11:54:50] <crutchy> lots of useless shit
[11:55:04] <IT_freak> badum tsss
[11:55:08] <Subsentient> crutchy: My sentiment is that we need to force the issue of finding a form of socialism that works, because Capitalism's cruelty cannot be tolerated any longer. Kind of like plunging the toilet to force that big lump down.
[11:55:28] <Konomi> last I checked there's no such thing as a free market since all markets have been regulated
[11:55:33] <IT_freak> i vote for advanced socialism; the one that doesn't treat people like shit
[11:55:37] <crutchy> but that's what socialism is all about though... forcing people to fit ideals of other people
[11:55:42] <crutchy> nobody should be forced
[11:55:56] <Subsentient> crutchy: I think people must be forced to be decent people.
[11:56:01] <Subsentient> Beyond that, do what you want
[11:56:02] <IT_freak> crutchy: well some schools choose to teach creationism to kids; isn't that forced?
[11:56:07] <crutchy> you can't force people to be decent
[11:56:17] <Subsentient> But you can force a good emulation
[11:56:18] <crutchy> you can only force them to dissent
[11:56:19] <Konomi> actually there's many types of socialism and they can't really be compacted into a single sentence
[11:56:34] <IT_freak> crutchy: but you can put a law where it says "if you're an asshole to a society, you *can* end up in jail"
[11:56:52] <IT_freak> we can only handle so many inconvenices in our lives
[11:56:57] <IT_freak> inconvenience*
[11:57:04] <crutchy> and a forced society only works for those doing the forcing... like hirler, stalin, etc
[11:57:15] <crutchy> ...and obama
[11:57:17] <IT_freak> not forced; difference between forced vs responsible
[11:57:28] <IT_freak> we have a brighter kids now; maybe not in
[11:57:28] <crutchy> everyone should be responsible for their own shit
[11:57:32] <Subsentient> I bet if someone tried pure socialism in a digital democracy with a thick constitution, it'd at least be good while it lasts
[11:57:35] <IT_freak> maybe not in 'murica, but everywhere else
[11:57:51] <IT_freak> Subsentient: forced vs responsibilities
[11:58:00] <IT_freak> it will work; the lawyers need to step up their game ^^
[11:58:12] <IT_freak> aka money whores
[11:58:30] <IT_freak> the book only gets thicker >.>
[11:58:50] <crutchy> governments can only force people... that's the only tool they have
[11:59:02] <IT_freak> i thought we had the right to vote? NOT
[11:59:14] <crutchy> more government = more force
[11:59:15] <MrBluze> u got the right to vote
[11:59:20] <MrBluze> u just dont have the right to choose who u can vote for
[11:59:41] <IT_freak> i feel like the only difference between 1st and 3rd world countries is money; reality is still shitty
[11:59:45] <crutchy> subsentient: it would be good for some
[11:59:48] <IT_freak> are* money
[12:00:17] <IT_freak> MrBluze: which means you have the right to be loyally gangbanged.
[12:00:50] <IT_freak> at least they treat you like shit, right?
[12:01:16] <crutchy> we're a bit luckier in straya than USA cos our government doesn't fuck us up the arse quite as hard
[12:01:38] <crutchy> they would probably love to, but they don't have as much power reach
[12:01:42] <IT_freak> crutchy: ehh, i wouldn't say "better" b/c you never know what will happen
[12:01:51] <MrBluze> i'd agree with that crutchy actually
[12:01:54] <crutchy> at the moment
[12:01:59] <IT_freak> at the moment yes; future? idk
[12:02:08] <MrBluze> there's more ordinary ppl in staffer jobs that puts breaks on the madness
[12:02:29] <prospectacle> What matters most is the electoral system. Bad system = voters don't really rule themselves. Good system = any form of government will change to suit the people who vote it in.
[12:02:32] <crutchy> and i would hereby like to thank them :-)
[12:02:47] <MrBluze> yeah me too
[12:03:00] <IT_freak> prospectacle: omg such good point; gov't should be fit for people, not the other way around
[12:03:07] <crutchy> straya has a weird voting system, but USA's is totally fucked up
[12:03:22] <IT_freak> in USA military votes are always late ^^ just look at the last election
[12:03:31] <prospectacle> Agreed, few voting systems worse than US (and there are some real bad ones out there).
[12:03:34] <crutchy> US political system is probably literally owned by Putin for allwe know
[12:03:50] <IT_freak> that sweet pouting
[12:04:16] <crutchy> more likely owned by Soudi king or something
[12:04:38] <prospectacle> key question is how many voters get > middle preference. and how many voters get first preference.
[12:04:38] <crutchy> it's definitely owned outside the USA though, so nobody would fuck a country up that bad from the inside
[12:04:40] <IT_freak> fracking > saudi arabian oil
[12:04:45] <IT_freak> now set all the corporations on fire
[12:04:53] <crutchy> s/so/cos/
[12:04:54] <SedBot> <crutchy> it's definitely owned outside the USA though, cos nobody would fuck a country up that bad from the inside
[12:04:55] <IT_freak> fracing oil profit*
[12:05:02] <IT_freak> ck*
[12:05:28] <MrBluze> poutine?
[12:05:37] <crutchy> pountine--
[12:05:37] <Bender> karma - pountine: -1
[12:05:41] <crutchy> lol
[12:05:46] <crutchy> must be getting late
[12:05:46] * Subsentient pokes poutine
[12:05:47] <MrBluze> lol typo
[12:05:49] <prospectacle> US has "spoiler" votes and poeple who don't know better are like "Well, that's democracy". No it's not it's single-vote FPTP.
[12:06:07] <crutchy> hahaha just realised i still haven't debugged my last two regression test fail cases
[12:06:08] <IT_freak> fptp?
[12:06:15] <MrBluze> first past the post
[12:06:24] <IT_freak> !
[12:06:28] <prospectacle> first past the post (ie first person to get a majority of votes wins)
[12:06:36] <MrBluze> aussie is preferential .. but that favours the incumbent
[12:06:37] <Subsentient> IT_freak: fptp == Betamax of file transfer protocols
[12:06:40] <IT_freak> prospectacle: ty for IE; that makes sense
[12:06:49] <crutchy> first to get their name all over CNN
[12:07:08] <IT_freak> first to bust a nut u mean ^^
[12:07:15] <crutchy> first to get the most money
[12:07:21] <IT_freak> shit i did that when i was 12?13?
[12:07:22] <prospectacle> MrBluze: Right. Only the second preferences of small minorities are counted. Second preference of large minorities are ignored.
[12:07:29] <crutchy> from middle east trillionaires
[12:08:01] <IT_freak> crutchy: what can you possibly do with all that money? buy power >.>
[12:08:02] <prospectacle> MrBluze: only cause of IRV though. Other preferentials can be better.
[12:08:03] <MrBluze> prospectacle: clever because the ppl who designed it were establishment
[12:08:10] <crutchy> pretty much
[12:08:20] <IT_freak> we should make buying power illegal; things will be better ^^
[12:08:24] <prospectacle> MrBluze, yeah you have to wonder sometimes.
[12:08:30] <IT_freak> "power" is not for sale
[12:08:44] <IT_freak> nor "slavery"
[12:08:50] <MrBluze> prospectacle: .. if u work for a political party for a while, u'll understand it fully .. its not pretty .. and definitely its not democracy
[12:09:05] <crutchy> i saw peter schiff video of him speaking in the middle east... and these rich dudes with towels on their heads totally misunderstood him and were offering to buy out more US debt to "help"
[12:09:28] <prospectacle> MrBluze, IRV is all about slagging your closest competitor, that way the small minorities will not put them second.
[12:09:31] <IT_freak> crutchy: they can buy our debt.... what is going on? >.>
[12:09:43] <crutchy> they do
[12:09:50] <crutchy> doesn't mean they should though
[12:09:56] <IT_freak> they would* u mean
[12:10:17] <IT_freak> >.> oh well, what can you expect from them when they send suicide bombers to israel
[12:10:21] <prospectacle> I guess US system is all about slagging your closest competitors too. Something we have in common.
[12:10:28] <prospectacle> Brothers
[12:10:46] <IT_freak> brothers? who?
[12:10:48] <prospectacle> In their case it's to keep people at home on polling day
[12:10:59] <MrBluze> yeah
[12:11:00] <crutchy> we're all human, which means we're all money whores
[12:11:06] <prospectacle> IT_freak: US + Aus. Voting systems that reward slagging off your nearest competitor
[12:11:08] <IT_freak> crutchy: i am not a money whore -_-;
[12:11:08] <crutchy> hmm good term IT-freak
[12:11:12] <MrBluze> all sad but true
[12:11:32] <crutchy> and i'm not jesus, and neither is my wife
[12:11:40] <IT_freak> ah slagging haha
[12:11:45] <Subsentient> crutchy: If given one billion dollars, I would gleefully look for the most useful place in the world to put it, and drop it there and run like hell
[12:11:48] <IT_freak> good old "fuck you pay me"
[12:12:09] <crutchy> you wouldn't get more than 2 feet before you were shot and the money stolen
[12:12:31] <IT_freak> crutchy: even your own security team would betray you; they'd divide that between themselves
[12:12:33] <Subsentient> crutchy: Depends on if I send it digitally
[12:12:38] <IT_freak> and between themselves someone would die anyway
[12:12:56] <IT_freak> you just never have that much on you? Haha
[12:13:13] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[12:13:15] <IT_freak> moral of the story
[12:13:20] <Subsentient> If I win, I'll quietly get it in digital, then quietly send it to the Haiku project ROFL
[12:13:26] <crutchy> lol there's a south park analogy for everything
[12:13:34] <IT_freak> crutchy: why south park, out of all things in the internet ^^
[12:13:38] <IT_freak> omg fine, w/e
[12:13:57] <crutchy> they explain things so well :-P
[12:14:13] <crutchy> like this gem: https://www.youtube.com
[12:14:15] <Subsentient> prospectacle: What else should I add to the library?
[12:14:17] <IT_freak> IT_freak: haiku? how poetic :p
[12:14:24] <Subsentient> IT_freak: Haiku OS
[12:14:36] <Subsentient> http://haiku-os.org
[12:14:45] <IT_freak> i like the poetry too; im just kidding ^^
[12:14:53] <IT_freak> i googled just minutes ago
[12:15:08] <Subsentient> IT_freak: Quit googling
[12:15:11] <Subsentient> use DuckDuckGo
[12:15:26] <crutchy> yeah... use the blowjob duck
[12:15:42] <IT_freak> >.> duckduckgo here we go! :D
[12:15:45] <Subsentient> crutchy: Good reason to use DuckDuckGo lol
[12:16:05] <crutchy> i'm reminded of a very sick audio clip featuring a certain duck
[12:16:12] <Subsentient> Of course, that duck has teeth....
[12:16:13] <crutchy> i think it was called 'duckjob.wav'
[12:16:41] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[12:16:47] <crutchy> fuck youtube has everything
[12:17:11] <Subsentient> crutchy: Fuck YouTube, because fuck Google
[12:17:31] <prospectacle> Subsentient, not sure if you saw my earlier ones. Hang on...
[12:17:31] <prospectacle> <prospectacle> Subsentient: find nth occurence of string, (from start or end). Get substring from the end of a string (e.g. substring("test.text", -4) == "text"
[12:17:43] <crutchy> yeah, but i'm just a money whore.... gimme gimme gimme
[12:17:52] <Subsentient> prospectacle: That's... a good idea.
[12:19:28] <prospectacle> Got to go. Keep it real
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[12:19:38] <crutchy> so... substr($S,strlen($S)-$pos)
[12:19:43] <crutchy> in php
[12:20:05] <crutchy> cya prospectacle
[12:20:33] <Subsentient> crutchy: You think zero or one indexed is better for this?
[12:21:29] <crutchy> i prefer delphi (first string char indexed with 1) but php string handling (with first char zero index) has some perks, like not requiring as many minus 1's
[12:22:00] <crutchy> zero index is harder for me to picture in my head
[12:24:22] <Subsentient> crutchy: Oh man, I am really, really abusing register. I don't think modern compilers even do much with it, but I can't help it.
[12:24:50] <crutchy> lol what language?
[12:24:58] <crutchy> delphi uses register for VCL
[12:25:06] <Subsentient> crutchy: The mother tongue.
[12:25:15] <crutchy> C?
[12:25:28] <crutchy> opcodes?
[12:25:32] <Subsentient> C
[12:25:43] <crutchy> lol sorry i'm not really a programmer
[12:27:01] <crutchy> not sure what registermeans in C... is it for using registers in the CPU or something?
[12:27:17] <crutchy> like the ol' eax shit
[12:27:45] <Subsentient> crutchy: It's a storage class that advises the compiler that putting the variable in a CPU register is probably a good idea
[12:27:54] <Subsentient> Most of them don't listen anymore though
[12:28:00] <crutchy> mkay
[12:28:15] <crutchy> prolly doesn't hurt i guess
[12:28:51] <crutchy> i do some stuff weird
[12:28:59] <crutchy> that many programmers would be shot for
[12:29:26] <crutchy> like in php i prefer $i=$i+1 to $i++, although i'm gradually coming around
[12:29:35] <Subsentient> crutchy: I enjoy my deranged pointer stuff.
[12:29:37] <crutchy> i think it's from my delphi past
[12:29:49] <Subsentient> crutchy: What's wrong with ++i?
[12:29:51] <crutchy> ooh pointers are trippy
[12:30:01] <Subsentient> crutchy: Pointers are really easy.
[12:30:07] <crutchy> delphi doesn't do i++
[12:30:10] <Subsentient> I have no idea why people ever have trouble with them
[12:30:20] <crutchy> you can do inc(i)
[12:30:24] <crutchy> but have to be careful
[12:30:37] <Subsentient> crutchy: You know C?
[12:30:57] <crutchy> i know enough to get myself into trouble, but not much
[12:31:06] <Subsentient> crutchy: Want to change that?
[12:31:21] <crutchy> not sure i have much use for C to be honest
[12:31:26] <crutchy> it's a cool language
[12:31:30] <crutchy> very powerful
[12:31:35] <IT_freak> lol C for cool HAHAH
[12:31:36] <crutchy> but very low level
[12:31:49] <Subsentient> crutchy: That's whence cometh knowledge.
[12:32:09] <IT_freak> so low you can reach hell
[12:32:20] <Subsentient> No, just low enough for geothermal energy
[12:32:30] <IT_freak> ^ scientifically corrrect answer
[12:32:40] <IT_freak> because fuck religions
[12:32:43] <crutchy> i mainly use delphi for my compiled applications... has some of the benefits of C in a higher level langauge (kinda like C++ but doesn't smell like arse)
[12:33:06] <crutchy> i hate C++
[12:33:12] <IT_freak> what about C#
[12:33:14] <crutchy> just like i hate oop in php
[12:33:21] <Subsentient> crutchy: C++ is bloated, weird, and unwieldly
[12:33:27] <crutchy> err don't know much about C#
[12:33:32] <Subsentient> C# is not compiled
[12:33:39] <crutchy> delphi prolly is too, but it's just got easier syntax and constructs
[12:33:43] <Subsentient> crutchy: Think of it as MS Java
[12:34:05] <Subsentient> crutchy: Read some good C source and you'll come around
[12:34:10] <crutchy> delphi helped me understand polymorphism... i would never have figured it out with c++
[12:34:15] <Subsentient> I have the best code I ever wrote in the Epoch Init System
[12:34:25] <crutchy> yeah looks pretty sweet
[12:34:38] <crutchy> kinda looked like you had it on a debian system
[12:34:42] <crutchy> or a debian ripoff
[12:34:45] <Subsentient> crutchy: You can switch out systemd on regular distros you know
[12:34:46] <IT_freak> Subsentient: sharing is caring? :D
[12:34:47] <Subsentient> that's what I did
[12:35:01] <Subsentient> crutchy: Fedora 20
[12:35:09] <Subsentient> or 19
[12:35:16] <Subsentient> I think 19 when I took that photo
[12:35:50] <crutchy> holy shit... rehat
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[12:35:55] <Subsentient> Yeah, Red Hat.
[12:35:57] <crutchy> (had to look it up on the wall of wonder)
[12:36:04] <crutchy> http://upload.wikimedia.org
[12:36:13] <Subsentient> I do love Fedora.
[12:36:34] <crutchy> haven't used redhat for a while
[12:36:40] <Subsentient> It's got a couple devs who really fucked things up (systemd, pulseaudio), but the distro is otherwise good.
[12:36:46] <Subsentient> SELinux gets nuked though
[12:37:01] <KonomiNetbook> all those distros interbreeding
[12:37:31] <Subsentient> KonomiNetbook: I have an Acer Aspire One ZG5 8.9', I still use it ALL the time
[12:37:41] <Subsentient> I really love that little netbook
[12:37:50] <KonomiNetbook> mine is a eeepc 1005ha
[12:37:52] <KonomiNetbook> love it
[12:37:55] <Subsentient> I really, really love it
[12:38:07] <Subsentient> KonomiNetbook: I was pissed when they were discontinued
[12:38:12] <Subsentient> Fucking iPad
[12:38:17] <KonomiNetbook> they're still floating around
[12:38:17] <Subsentient> ruined it when it was just getting good
[12:38:31] <KonomiNetbook> yeah I want a linux tablet bad
[12:38:38] <KonomiNetbook> I think MS harassed asus
[12:38:40] <Subsentient> KonomiNetbook: Do NOT hold your breath.
[12:38:46] <KonomiNetbook> suddenly it all had windows
[12:38:51] <KonomiNetbook> I know of a few
[12:39:00] <KonomiNetbook> pengiune pad I think
[12:39:02] <Subsentient> Find me something I can load whatever OS I want on it
[12:39:09] <Subsentient> Something mainstream
[12:39:12] <crutchy> linux is making slow but sure inroads
[12:39:12] <Subsentient> and you get a cookie
[12:39:19] <crutchy> like a big lumbering beast
[12:39:20] <KonomiNetbook> >mainstream >choice
[12:39:26] <KonomiNetbook> what do you think this is socialism?
[12:39:34] <Subsentient> KonomiNetbook: I hope so.
[12:39:50] <crutchy> freedom
[12:40:12] <crutchy> freedom != socialism
[12:40:23] <KonomiNetbook> buy yur ipad market knows best
[12:40:57] <crutchy> unfortunately money talks, but more money is gradually talking for linux
[12:41:04] <crutchy> hopefully it will continue
[12:41:55] <crutchy> as much as google is evil, it gave linux a boost
[12:44:42] <KonomiNetbook> https://www.youtube.com
[12:47:49] <crutchy> lol
[12:48:31] <crutchy> if only it was that obvious to tell when communism takes hold
[12:49:49] <crutchy> i pity all those poor suckers at occupy wall street who don't even realise they are opposed to something that doesn't exist in america
[12:50:51] <MrBluze> socialistbacon.org
[12:51:05] <crutchy> socialistbacon_org++
[12:51:05] <Bender> karma - socialistbacon_org: 1
[12:51:08] <crutchy> :-P
[12:51:16] <KonomiNetbook> crutchy wants some it's like his cloest fetish
[12:51:21] <crutchy> wooohooo i squashed all my bugs
[12:51:24] <MrBluze> ;)
[12:51:27] <MrBluze> squash em with bacon
[12:51:31] <MrBluze> (tm)
[12:51:42] <MrBluze> brb
[12:52:09] <crutchy> squashedbacon.org
[12:52:17] <KonomiNetbook> baconblaster.org
[13:00:20] <Subsentient> Yep, my Find function now supports a one-indexed argument for the result number
[13:00:50] <crutchy> can you make php run faster?
[13:00:58] <crutchy> my regression tests take forever
[13:01:18] <crutchy> actually only a minute or so.... but that's like forever man!
[13:01:35] <MrBluze> php ..
[13:01:42] <MrBluze> caching
[13:01:45] <Bender> [ksuhku] computer time > dog time > real time
[13:01:58] <crutchy> can't use caching in this instance
[13:02:16] <crutchy> it's not a cms
[13:02:20] <MrBluze> yes
[13:02:27] <MrBluze> outsource jobs to c++
[13:02:30] <MrBluze> or c
[13:02:39] <crutchy> lol yeah probably would be better
[13:02:46] <MrBluze> not dumb at all
[13:02:48] <crutchy> getting company to pay for that is the tricky bit
[13:02:51] <MrBluze> u can get mysql and so on plugins
[13:02:58] <MrBluze> all with foss
[13:03:04] <MrBluze> u dont do c?
[13:03:18] <MrBluze> php is like c but duplo as opposed to lego technic
[13:03:20] <crutchy> i'm a c noob. did a course at uni
[13:03:25] <crutchy> lol
[13:03:32] <Subsentient> crutchy: I have material if you want it
[13:03:33] <MrBluze> well u only have to write small jobs in c
[13:03:42] <Subsentient> MrBluze: Indeed
[13:03:54] <Subsentient> Epoch is a giant collection of reimplementations of the standard library
[13:04:01] <crutchy> i have enough trouble motivating myself to get the app to work in php :-P
[13:04:03] <Subsentient> But, it's clean, readable, and commented.
[13:04:17] <MrBluze> once it works in php, then u go and pick something and try making a c version
[13:04:21] <MrBluze> get it to return what u want
[13:04:40] <MrBluze> Subsentient: that sounds good
[13:06:19] <crutchy> kinda makes me think of the ol' delphi cgi stuff
[13:06:33] <crutchy> never did any of that but i read a bit
[13:07:04] <Subsentient> crutchy: MrBluze: https://github.com
[13:07:09] <Subsentient> This is what Good C looks like to me
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[13:08:23] <crutchy> at least you don't leave opening braces on the opening statement
[13:08:32] <crutchy> same line as
[13:08:39] <MrBluze> yeah i agre
[13:08:46] <MrBluze> i try to make my c++ look like that
[13:08:52] <MrBluze> tidy etc
[13:09:01] <Subsentient> I prefer Allman braces
[13:09:04] <crutchy> all my php has braces on their own lines
[13:09:09] <crutchy> allman?
[13:09:15] <Subsentient> crutchy: Line for each brace
[13:09:24] <crutchy> ahh yeah me too :-)
[13:09:50] <MrBluze> new lines are good for u - not a waste .. u arent printing it on paper
[13:10:22] <crutchy> and i prefer a braced block to chucking a statement straight after an if etc
[13:10:32] <crutchy> if (blah)
[13:10:33] <crutchy> {
[13:10:36] <crutchy> }
[13:10:37] <MrBluze> yep same
[13:10:41] <MrBluze> { and } are sacred
[13:10:47] <crutchy> instead of
[13:10:51] <crutchy> if () blah;
[13:11:04] <crutchy> or however that was supposed to go :-P
[13:11:15] <MrBluze> yep .. messy code
[13:11:56] <Subsentient> crutchy: If I want to save space I'll stick a single statement on the same line as an unbraced if, but putting the statement on it's own line without braces, is bad.
[13:12:38] <crutchy> definitely
[13:13:17] <crutchy> i was guilty of that (except with an indent) in some of my old delphi code, but borland does it too
[13:13:44] <crutchy> i stopped doing it in my delphi apps when i started using php
[13:14:05] <Subsentient> Did you guys know I am writing my code on dinosaurs
[13:14:12] <Subsentient> I am speaking on an eMac G4
[13:14:15] <crutchy> z80?
[13:14:16] <Subsentient> with Debian PPC
[13:14:30] <Subsentient> And I am writing code on a Pentium III with 512MB of RAM
[13:14:30] <MrBluze> thats pretty cool
[13:14:35] <MrBluze> z80 .. lol running LDOs
[13:15:04] <crutchy> i prolly still have a p4 (or 3 laying around)
[13:15:17] <crutchy> i still have 4mb sticks of ram
[13:15:39] <crutchy> i get most my shit from work though
[13:16:05] <Subsentient> crutchy: I have lots of Coppermine Celerons, Pentium IIIs, A couple P4s, an AMD K6, some Pentium 1s, a G3 PPC, a G4 PPC, an Atom, a Core 2 Duo, a P2, and probably something from VIA somewhere
[13:16:39] <janrinok> crutchy hi, I've got a box of old memory, but I also have quite a few old computers also.
[13:16:40] <crutchy> my main pyewta that i'm using now is only an amd dual core
[13:16:54] <crutchy> i have chucked out a lot
[13:17:04] <Subsentient> Funny, a dual core is the fastest thing I have
[13:17:07] <MrBluze> ok im off to bed
[13:17:09] <crutchy> keep it for a while (for sentimental reasons... you know)
[13:17:10] <MrBluze> seeya folksies
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[13:17:16] <crutchy> cya mrbluze
[13:17:16] <Subsentient> kk, 'night
[13:17:26] <crutchy> probably means i should be thinking about bed too i guess
[13:17:30] <MrBluze|zzz> yeah prolly
[13:17:33] <MrBluze|zzz> i start early
[13:17:38] <Subsentient> crutchy: NOOOO
[13:17:39] <MrBluze|zzz> need my 6 hours minimum lol
[13:17:42] <MrBluze|zzz> ciao ciao
[13:18:07] * Subsentient puts a pickle under MrBluze|zzz's pillow before he lays down
[13:18:13] <crutchy> hahaha
[13:18:22] <MrBluze|zzz> lol
[13:18:42] <Subsentient> Fear the pickle.
[13:18:53] <crutchy> fuck yeah i think i'm happy enough that when i publish my dev snapshot on the work server tomorrow it won't break
[13:19:42] <crutchy> there's a few more regression test records at work than at home, but should be ok
[13:19:43] <Subsentient> crutchy: heh
[13:20:01] <Subsentient> crutchy: I need to fix a few bugs in my bot tomorrow.
[13:20:13] <crutchy> what bot?
[13:20:16] <Subsentient> aqu4bot.
[13:20:24] <Subsentient> aqu4? The burrito thrower?
[13:20:30] <Subsentient> I'll get her
[13:20:32] <crutchy> ahhh yes
[13:20:33] <crutchy> lol
[13:20:36] <crutchy> :-)
[13:20:54] <janrinok> .op
[13:20:54] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o janrinok] by what-if-i
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[13:21:07] <crutchy> my bot just logs
[13:21:11] <Subsentient> janrinok: OP the bot and I'll give you admin.
[13:21:12] <crutchy> it's pretty dumb
[13:21:20] <janrinok> hang on
[13:21:58] <Subsentient> $admin add *!janrinok@Soylent/Staff/Editor/janrinok
[13:21:58] <aqu4> Admin add successful.
[13:22:00] <janrinok> Subsentient: If I knew what you meant I would do it!
[13:22:04] <Subsentient> $admin list
[13:22:04] <aqu4> List of admins:
[13:22:05] <aqu4> [1] (4OWNER) Subsentient!WhiteRat@216.161.ghn.ql
[13:22:06] <aqu4> [2] (8ADMIN) *!janrinok@Soylent/Staff/Editor/janrinok
[13:22:06] <aqu4> End of list.
[13:22:26] <Subsentient> janrinok: Do $whoami
[13:22:33] <janrinok> $whoami
[13:22:33] <aqu4> You are janrinok!~janrinok@Soylent/Staff/Editor/janrinok, and you are an admin.
[13:22:44] <janrinok> I'm an admin apparently
[13:22:48] <Subsentient> janrinok: :^)
[13:23:14] <Subsentient> janrinok: I use her on Freenode to manage my channels
[13:23:19] <janrinok> They should never give someone like me so much power...
[13:23:40] <crutchy> you forgot the 'mwahahahahahaha' :-P
[13:23:40] <Subsentient> $commands
[13:23:41] <aqu4> Commands with 1 star = admins only, 2 stars = owners only. Commands available:
[13:23:41] <aqu4> burrito, beer, wz, guessinggame, sr, time, seen, tell, sticky, whoami, msg8*, memsg8*, noticemsg8*, chanctl8*, join8*, part8*, listchannels8*, nickchange4**, admin4**, blacklist8*, netwrite4**, quit4**, restart4**, help, commands
[13:24:09] <crutchy> has anyone managed to break her yet?
[13:24:19] <Subsentient> crutchy: No but it probably wouldn't be very hard.
[13:24:22] <Subsentient> She's single threaded.
[13:24:26] <Subsentient> but that's why I have this.
[13:24:33] <Subsentient> $blacklist add crutchy!*@*
[13:24:33] <aqu4> Invalid subcommand. Valid are set, unset, and list.
[13:24:37] <Subsentient> $blacklist set crutchy!*@*
[13:24:37] <aqu4> Blacklisting successful.
[13:24:41] <crutchy> lol
[13:24:55] <crutchy> well i wouldn't trust me either
[13:25:06] <Subsentient> $blacklist unset crutchy!*@*
[13:25:07] <aqu4> Unblacklisting successful.
[13:25:11] <crutchy> but i'm pretty dumb at hacking
[13:25:15] <Subsentient> same
[13:25:20] <janrinok> ditto
[13:25:36] <Subsentient> janrinok: Now OP her, and I'll show you some of the cool stuff
[13:25:48] <Subsentient> $chanctl help
[13:25:48] <aqu4> The following channel control commands are available:
[13:25:49] <aqu4> modeset, settopic, invite, op, deop, voice, unvoice, quiet, unquiet, ban, unban, and kick.
[13:25:57] <crutchy> i'm eating an icypole and drinking a hot milo
[13:26:35] <Subsentient> I'm eating a roll of tin foil and drinking capacitor juice through a straw.
[13:26:48] <janrinok> Hang on - there have been no stories for hours, I'll get a couple queued and be back shortly
[13:26:53] <Subsentient> kk
[13:27:06] <Subsentient> $burrito janrinok, for lying about OPing aqu4
[13:27:06] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at janrinok, for lying about OPing aqu4
[13:28:45] <Subsentient> $burrito janrinok, for no good reason
[13:28:45] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at janrinok, for no good reason
[13:29:01] <Subsentient> $burrito crutchy because.... crutchy
[13:29:01] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at crutchy because.... crutchy
[13:29:03] <crutchy> ooh just saw your tfa subsentient
[13:29:08] <crutchy> lol
[13:29:11] <Subsentient> crutchy: tfa?
[13:29:26] <crutchy> the fucking article
[13:29:30] <crutchy> on soylent
[13:29:32] <Subsentient> crutchy: lol yeah
[13:29:46] <crutchy> not good engrish sorry
[13:29:49] <Subsentient> crutchy: I really like Soylent for actually accepting my genius, wonderful stories.
[13:30:04] <Subsentient> $tell janrinok I might make a good editor, if you're short handed
[13:30:04] <aqu4> I'll tell 'em next time I see 'em.
[13:30:21] <crutchy> you're a low level guy, so you prolly appreciate global variables more than these high level ooptards :-P
[13:30:30] <Subsentient> crutchy: Yes, I do
[13:30:39] <Subsentient> I prefer to pass around large quantities of pointers, however
[13:30:44] <crutchy> unfortunately i'm kinda an ooptard too, with delphi anyways
[13:30:55] <crutchy> lol i do that too
[13:30:55] <Subsentient> Or pointers to arrays of pointer to pointers to structures filled with pointers
[13:31:15] <Subsentient> crutchy: Ok, here, PM coming in.
[13:31:23] <crutchy> the way i handle most data in my php app is to pass a pointer as an arg to functions
[13:32:16] <Subsentient> crutchy: That's the way to go
[13:32:34] <crutchy> lol is that what the messages in the status tab are :-P
[13:32:34] <Subsentient> crutchy: I'm actually not fluent in anything but C anymore.
[13:32:49] <crutchy> fucking hell i had no idea what they were
[13:32:51] <crutchy> :-P
[13:32:55] * crutchy feels like a dope
[13:33:04] <Subsentient> $burrito crutchy
[13:33:04] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at crutchy
[13:33:26] <Konomi> hum...
[13:33:31] <Konomi> think my flash drive is toast
[13:33:34] <Subsentient> $burrito Konomi
[13:33:34] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Konomi
[13:33:41] <Subsentient> $burrito Konomi's flash drive
[13:33:42] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Konomi's flash drive
[13:33:45] <Konomi> okay then
[13:33:47] <Konomi> $ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdg bs=64M
[13:33:47] <Konomi> dd: error writing ‘/dev/sdg’: No space left on device
[13:33:47] <Konomi> 1+0 records in
[13:33:47] <Konomi> 0+0 records out
[13:33:47] <crutchy> hahaha nice 401 page.
[13:33:49] <Konomi> 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.0676329 s, 7.6 kB/s
[13:33:52] <Konomi> Sun Mar 16 ~
[13:33:54] <Konomi> $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdg
[13:33:57] <Konomi> Sun Mar 16 ~
[13:34:04] <crutchy> i like serving up those kinda messages to google bots
[13:34:08] <Konomi> apparently my 16gb flash drive now has 512 bytes of storage and nothng else
[13:34:27] <crutchy> 512 bytes should be enough for anybody!
[13:34:37] <Subsentient> crutchy: BAHHHAHA! GOLD!
[13:34:42] <Konomi> aint enough for me ~
[13:34:44] <Subsentient> crutchy++
[13:34:44] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 34
[13:34:47] <crutchy> you can run a whole operating system on that!
[13:34:53] <Subsentient> Indeed
[13:35:06] <Konomi> sdg: partition table beyond EOD, enabling native capacity
[13:35:09] <Konomi> that doesn't sound good
[13:35:22] <crutchy> i had a 4gb stick rename itself
[13:35:28] <Konomi> well
[13:35:29] <crutchy> to something creepy
[13:35:37] <Konomi> I watched a talk about flash memory recently
[13:35:40] <Konomi> and the guy explained it as
[13:35:59] <Konomi> "don't think your data is stored on an sd card, imagine an approximation is"
[13:36:00] <crutchy> you prolly just need to look for another usb stick in your next box of cereal
[13:36:06] <Konomi> with lots of error correction
[13:36:15] <crutchy> yeah flash memory isn't great
[13:36:25] <Konomi> grats flash drive no 2
[13:36:27] <crutchy> i don't think most usb sticks use it though
[13:36:30] <Konomi> you're promoted to flash drive no 1
[13:36:39] <crutchy> old ones did
[13:37:09] <Konomi> I mneant if I can't dd the damn thing what is left
[13:37:52] <crutchy> dunno, maybe you can try feed it to your cat, but you might have to smear it in cat food first
[13:38:04] <Konomi> if I smear it in dog food will you eat it?
[13:38:24] <crutchy> depends what time of day it is prolly
[13:38:41] <crutchy> i'm just about in my retard hour, so you could feed it to me now
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[13:41:16] <Konomi> I think it's dead
[13:41:22] <Konomi> will have to have a burrial tomorrow
[13:42:01] <crutchy> my condolences
[13:42:16] <crutchy> what did you lose?
[13:42:20] <crutchy> much porn?
[13:42:48] <crutchy> i mean... i'm sorry... pr0n
[13:43:26] <Konomi> I don't keep porn on flash drives
[13:43:34] <Konomi> and nothing really it was being used as a media stick for the tv
[13:44:24] <crutchy> you there subsentient?
[13:45:07] <crutchy> thanks for the site access dude
[13:45:19] <crutchy> just reminded me i do have a book about C
[13:45:30] <crutchy> actually i think it's called that
[13:45:36] <crutchy> "a book about C"
[13:46:40] <Subsentient> crutchy: yes
[13:46:58] <Subsentient> HOLY SHIT
[13:47:01] <crutchy> i should get it out again
[13:47:08] <crutchy> what's shit?
[13:47:17] <Subsentient> SubStrings.Copy() beat the standard library's strncpy() in speed!!!
[13:47:44] <crutchy> mkay
[13:47:54] <Subsentient> crutchy: That does NOT happen!
[13:47:58] <crutchy> is substrings class something you made?
[13:48:04] <Subsentient> Those things are often written in ASM!
[13:48:15] <crutchy> yeah i would have thought so too
[13:48:17] <Subsentient> crutchy: It's not actually a class, I just make it look like one, and yes
[13:48:21] <crutchy> most of the delphi stuff like that is
[13:48:44] <crutchy> what was the test case?
[13:49:08] <crutchy> a million "hello world"s or something like that?
[13:49:16] <Subsentient> crutchy: Copy a string of "I farted and it smelled like cheese" to a destination
[13:49:43] <Subsentient> consistently, 5 ticks for mine, 7 to 10 for strncpy()!
[13:49:59] <crutchy> try it a million times in a loop just to be sure
[13:50:15] <crutchy> dunno about strncpy
[13:50:18] <Subsentient> yep
[13:50:23] <crutchy> isn't there a copy in C?
[13:50:50] <crutchy> strcpy
[13:51:35] <Subsentient> crutchy: strcpy is unsafe, we use strncpy
[13:51:49] <crutchy> yeah just read that in a SO post
[13:52:54] <crutchy> though there is an argument that strncpy isn't safe either
[13:53:12] <crutchy> just forces you to put a length
[13:53:24] <crutchy> still a good idea though
[13:55:03] <crutchy> yeah not sure how these real low level functions are programmed. i thought asm and i thought they would be as efficient as possible
[13:55:47] <crutchy> if you come up with something quicker maybe post on soylent so we can try it out on different hardware
[13:55:56] <crutchy> might be a big deal
[13:56:31] <Subsentient> crutchy: I'm sure lots of this code is less efficient
[13:56:58] <Subsentient> It's designed to have as good a speed as possible and still be decent
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[13:57:58] <Subsentient> janrinok: poke
[13:58:15] * aqu4 pokes janrinok
[13:59:15] <Subsentient> crutchy: In C, if you go over array bounds, you are writing/reading into unknown memory
[13:59:22] <Subsentient> That's why it's dangerous
[13:59:34] <Subsentient> now, strncpy is still dangerous for not giving a null terminator after the string
[13:59:46] <Subsentient> My function corrects this.
[14:01:41] <crutchy> REGRESSION TESTING PASSED > LIVE BACKUP & PUBLISH SUCCESS
[14:01:47] <crutchy> music to my eyes
[14:01:52] <crutchy> time for bed i thinks
[14:02:13] <Subsentient> crutchy: NOOOO
[14:02:21] <crutchy> back tomoz
[14:02:21] * Subsentient arms the burrito cannon
[14:02:24] <crutchy> lol
[14:02:30] * aqu4 locks and loads
[14:02:35] <crutchy> night all
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[14:03:46] <janrinok> yep I'm here but still working on stories
[14:03:51] <janrinok> Subsentient: ^
[14:05:08] * Subsentient slaps janrinok a bit with a large Borg cube
[14:06:00] <janrinok> Subsentient: yeah, I got your PM, thx. We are always looking for new eds but I cannot get you in to the team. I'll have to bring it up with LaminatorX when he is next online (I think he is a bit unwell at present)
[14:06:31] <janrinok> Thxs for the slapping - it has helped to concentrate the mind....
[14:06:37] <Subsentient> janrinok: Just the idea that perhaps I'd be able to help get more stories out. I don't claim to be a magical editor genius.
[14:07:33] <janrinok> I can't get you access to all the necessary bits and pieces. I'll need LamX for that. But grateful for your offer ;)
[14:07:53] * Subsentient misses the music from the late 90's and early 00's
[14:08:05] * Subsentient is listening to Dido, as one of his guilty pleasures
[14:08:11] <janrinok> I'll soon have the next 6 hours or so covered. Agree on the music!
[14:08:11] <Subsentient> Heil Pandora!
[14:08:35] <Subsentient> janrinok: Yeah, though, electronic music is getting good
[14:08:51] <Subsentient> The 'dark' stuff I don't like though.
[14:10:07] <janrinok> I'm afraid that I am a bit of a folkie - I play guitar, banjo and tin whistle, or at least I used to. But I still enjoy listening to all types of music. 80s and 90s for me were the best years.
[14:10:50] <Subsentient> Indeed
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[14:34:07] <janrinok> OK, that's that done until about 1800UTC.
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[14:39:50] <janrinok> Konomi: hi
[14:39:56] <Konomi> hey
[14:40:00] <janrinok> sup?
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[15:24:56] <n1> ahoy
[15:25:15] <Subsentient> n1: Ahurr.
[15:26:04] <janrinok> n1 hi
[15:28:02] <n1> how goes this afternoon
[15:28:24] <janrinok> fine and fortunately quiet - as I seem to have the con.
[15:28:51] <janrinok> ..the world is teetering on the edge of an abyss.
[15:29:32] <n1> fine and teetering on the edge of an abyss seem to contradict
[15:29:50] <janrinok> hey, its only there because I've been left in charge!
[15:30:16] <n1> lol
[15:30:18] <janrinok> I've based my life on catastrophies of various kinds...
[15:30:38] <n1> at least i know who to blame when it all goes wrong ;)
[15:31:31] <janrinok> its in my sig 'It's always my fault...'
[15:32:05] <n1> works for me heh
[15:33:03] <n1> im trying to decide if i should work, do chores or take a nap
[15:34:48] <janrinok> take a nap - the other things can wait.
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[15:37:23] <n1> i need to stop reading the news regarding the property market
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[16:01:27] <janrinok> oops
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[20:58:00] <NezSez> <sigh>
[20:58:32] <NezSez> g'day all
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[22:25:20] <crutchy> morning soylent
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[22:29:47] <prospectacle> What is the general feeling about linking to/discussing personal software projects in the journal. Good thing, don't care, or no it's spam?
[22:30:23] <crutchy> i do. what else is a nerd website journal for?
[22:31:17] <crutchy> i think of soylent as the social extension of github
[22:31:38] <prospectacle> cool
[22:32:08] <crutchy> with the odd 'news' article to start flame wars from :-P
[22:32:30] <crutchy> though i haven't really got into any flame wars here
[22:33:01] <prospectacle> well you gotta save your strength for the big ones
[22:33:03] <crutchy> @ that other site that shall not be named i always looked for some poor sucker to chew on
[22:33:23] <prospectacle> crutchy, more of a sense of community here as only a few hundred active users
[22:33:39] <crutchy> yeah
[22:33:39] <prospectacle> if that
[22:33:49] <prospectacle> only like 2 new journal entries a day.
[22:34:16] <prospectacle> flame wars are for strangers, cause everyone knows strangers are stupid.
[22:35:09] <crutchy> mine tend to be full of drivel, but who cares. at least it's not about twerking or brtiney spears being preggers or whatnot
[22:35:19] <crutchy> lol
[22:35:22] <crutchy> strangers are fun
[22:35:34] <crutchy> but it's the strangers you know a little that are even more fun
[22:35:37] <crutchy> like apk
[22:35:40] <crutchy> :-P
[22:35:46] <crutchy> he was awesome to flame
[22:36:43] <crutchy> i still remember giving him a nice good roasting over the indentation bug i stumbled on in that bit of python he kept posting
[22:36:59] <prospectacle> lol
[22:37:03] <crutchy> he kept blaming it on slashdot :-P
[22:37:15] <crutchy> oh shit i said that name that shall not be named
[22:37:21] * crutchy slaps slef
[22:37:24] <prospectacle> Is python good. everyone says so. I like the idea of indentation being meaningful, in theory, but could cause problems.
[22:37:32] <crutchy> i don't like it
[22:37:48] <crutchy> i like indentation, but not as syntax
[22:38:28] <prospectacle> yeah it would take some getting used. Don't tell me how to format my code, interpreter. My indenting is an art form and it will not be opressed by the likes of you.
[22:38:45] <crutchy> lol yeah same here
[22:38:59] <crutchy> anways. gotta takes kiddywinks to skool and go to workipoos
[22:39:07] <crutchy> another day another dollar, all that
[22:39:12] <crutchy> cya
[22:39:18] <prospectacle> ok enjoy
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[23:38:47] <IT_freak> o_o
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