#Soylent | Logs for 2014-03-13
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[00:04:17] <NightHawk> Hey all
[00:04:31] <kobach> hi
[00:05:00] <NightHawk> Bit quiet, anything interresting discussed lately?
[00:05:20] * kobach notes ## is the new channel for poutine-free discussion
[00:06:20] <LaminatorX> I'm not quite cool with that.
[00:07:22] <LaminatorX> Not that it's my business.
[00:07:49] <kobach> nobody was cool with it, so we made a new channel where we dont have to put up with peoples shit
[00:07:53] <kobach> :p
[00:08:01] <kobach> like the relay
[00:11:43] <LaminatorX> We should probably respond to excessive unruliness with 20minute muting of the relay or hushing the offender rather than splitting the public channel.
[00:12:45] <LaminatorX> A time out, as it were.
[00:13:12] <kobach> that times out everybody on the relay, not the idiot
[00:13:18] <kobach> so it solves nothing
[00:13:46] <LaminatorX> How many people are over there, I haven't looked.
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[00:14:03] <LaminatorX> I assumed it was just two dudes.
[00:14:09] <prospectacle> i like the silent option. Offender can stay but no one hears them. Most unruly people in irc are just looking for attention
[00:14:14] <kobach> every now and then someone pipes up
[00:14:36] <kobach> but nobody who gives a shit is over there so nothing ever gets done over there
[00:14:58] <LaminatorX> They could always come over if someone on relay is getting excessive.
[00:15:15] <kobach> if they wanted to come over they would have
[00:15:29] <kobach> theyre over there for a (usually stupid) reason
[00:15:32] <LaminatorX> Sme folks are on freenode all the time.
[00:15:49] <kobach> last i checked there was ~20 people over there
[00:15:54] <kobach> vs the 100 here
[00:16:34] <kobach> 12.18:16:12 -!- Highest connection count: 156 (154 clients) (4923 connections received)
[00:16:56] <LaminatorX> A 20 minute hush should be enough for someone to cool down.
[00:17:22] <LaminatorX> Can we hush relay bot?
[00:17:26] <kobach> well tell xlefay or landon or someone to go over there and fix the situation
[00:17:42] <kobach> no, because then people(read: landon) bitch
[00:17:53] <kobach> also, its not fair if someone else is talking on freenode
[00:18:14] <LaminatorX> So Landon is an op over the too?
[00:18:31] <kobach> i think so, im not sure
[00:18:34] <kobach> i know xlefay is
[00:18:42] <kobach> but he doesnt care, because nobody uses freenode
[00:19:03] <pbnjoe> Hey everyone
[00:19:10] <kobach> hello pbnjoe
[00:19:16] <LaminatorX> Io
[00:19:40] <kobach> lol
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[00:20:23] * pbnjoe has read back ~20 lines
[00:20:44] <pbnjoe> who's this offender we're talking about? the gravy covered cheesy fries kind?
[00:20:53] * kobach pbnjoe TLDR, ## is where the party is at
[00:20:55] <kobach> pbnjoe: yes
[00:21:15] <pbnjoe> cool
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[00:21:32] <LaminatorX> He's worth having around, but sometimes goes too far.
[00:22:02] <kobach> hence our solution, since nobody will cut the relay
[00:25:25] <LaminatorX> I think it would be better to give a warning when he (or anyone) goes way over the line (ex that Down's syndrome FTP crack), and then a time-out if the behavior continues.
[00:26:30] <kobach> its been done, doesnt work, because its unenforceable, because nobodys over there
[00:26:53] <kobach> however thats how things work over here
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[00:40:19] <Hyperbolebot> [SoylentNews] - Lowering Bandwidth Costs for Slash-based Sites - http://sylnt.us - I-was-doing-OK-until-it-mentioned-perl
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[00:58:08] <dmbasso> hello
[00:58:28] <SpallsHurgenson> why aren't there any intelligent comedies on TV anymore, shows that really make you think... like Gilligan's Island? ;-)
[00:58:41] <dmbasso> who could help me solve a problem wrt my account?
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[01:00:59] <SpallsHurgenson> don't look at me, I'm obviously here only for the stimulating conversation
[01:01:43] <dmbasso> lol
[01:01:44] * kobach notes the stimulating conversation is happening in ##, away from poutine
[01:01:56] <kobach> and away from the democracy, into the dictatorship
[01:01:59] <kobach> >:D
[01:02:48] <dmbasso> did anybody have the problem of registering and not receiving any email at all? then trying to reset the password, and still no email?
[01:03:32] <gishzida> i think i heard mattie_p say it was a known issue
[01:03:41] <kobach> ye ai heard somthing about it earlier
[01:03:51] <SpallsHurgenson> it took several hours for my email to appear... but that was a month ago
[01:04:08] <dmbasso> well, no worries... at least that means someday I'll eventually receive it, with some luck
[01:04:13] <SpallsHurgenson> of course, back then I think they were typing out all those emails by hand :)
[01:04:34] <Hyperbolebot> [poutine] is NCommander still involved in the project?
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[01:04:40] <Hyperbolebot> [poutine] Why won't the owner of SN come forward?
[01:04:44] <Hyperbolebot> [poutine] seems shady as shit
[01:04:56] <xlefay> FoobarBazbot: good sir, could your bot also reside in ## please?
[01:05:01] <dmbasso> that's the problem with centralized dns
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[01:11:09] <SpallsHurgenson> that's why I only visit 198.58.127.22 :)
[01:12:28] <dmbasso> you should visit i6RwBX+KO6vguUqCpXLXcFHVdHX0wNGkm~pPAdA+YA0, and then give whatever name you want :)
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[01:16:01] <everdred> I just set up a copy of Avantslash for easy access: http://soylitenews.org
[01:18:57] <SpallsHurgenson> everydred: looks nice. I mean, I have no use for it, but it looks nice :)
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[01:20:05] <mattie_p> dmbasso: check your spam filter, the registration emails often get caught there
[01:20:15] <gishzida> everdred: the only downside I can see is that it might become a man-in-the-middle vector
[01:20:20] <everdred> I hear you. I wouldn't use it outside of my phone browser.
[01:20:32] <dmbasso> mattie_p: thanx for the hint, but that's obviously the first thing I checked
[01:20:44] <drussell> poutine: http://soylentnews.org
[01:21:05] <everdred> gishzida: Could you elaborate? I'm interested in hearing more about this.
[01:21:05] <mattie_p> dmbasso: not obvious, you didn't mention it
[01:21:13] <mattie_p> I can help though
[01:21:21] <mattie_p> going to pm you
[01:21:25] <dmbasso> (obvious for people with technical backgrounds ;)
[01:21:35] <dmbasso> ok, thanx
[01:22:29] <mattie_p> ok, pm sent, look for a new tab or something
[01:22:52] <dmbasso> I'm using the web client, on firefox last version
[01:23:07] <dmbasso> an '8' tab appeared, but doesn't seem to work
[01:23:46] <mattie_p> type /query mattie_p, that should open a new tab
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[01:34:11] * SpallsHurgenson waggles his fingers at his laptop, which is on the other side of the room, with the vain hope that he has unexpectedly developed telekinetic powers so he doesn't have to get up
[01:37:30] <gishzida> everdred: the idea is that if you attack the relay [which I assume what the avantslash server is doing] you might beable to do interesting things to inbound / outbound traffic
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[01:41:24] <gishzida> everdred: not my specialty... I'm only a general specialist but consider what you might be able to insert via a clever js or pl. script... Yahoo! Mail slammed their users that way many times
[01:41:56] <everdred> gishzida: Do you think that would be a concern even considering the limited scope of the Avantslash software I have running on my server? For anything "interesting" (e.g. commenting), the Avantslash directs you to the actual soylentnews.org.
[01:41:59] <sea> gishzida: You're a general specialist?
[01:42:24] <gishzida> sea: jack of all trades
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[01:42:44] <everdred> gishzida: Avantslash itself seems to be for read-only tasks.
[01:43:47] <gishzida> everdred: boils down to how will have you got it protected? read only for who? A =user B=server C=SN -- if I pwn B I can pwn A
[01:44:22] <gishzida> well
[01:44:46] <gishzida> call me paranoid... used to work for a financial institution
[01:45:09] <everdred> gishzida: Your paranoia is appreciated.
[01:46:48] <everdred> gishzida: Is what you have in mind using Avantslash to redirect users to something that looks like, but isn't, soylentnews.org? (And grabbing their login info when they try to log in?)
[01:47:13] <everdred> gishzida: Just trying to see if there's something blatant I haven't thought of.
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[01:47:51] <gishzida> everdred: the other thing SN might want to consider is whether they want "value adds" that they have no control over.
[01:49:33] <gishzida> everdred: the concern is if the server that is doing the orwarding gets pwn'd then arbitrary scripts may be injected into the user's data stream... example: banner ad attacks user moves a mouse over ad geths malware
[01:50:49] <gishzida> once got a malware install from The Register.UK.com ad server that way... started using no-script
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[01:51:51] <gishzida> everdred: covering your bases -- if its personal use them just make sure only you can use it...
[01:51:54] <everdred> gishzida: To your point about value-adds, I'm absolutely mindful of that. If they want the domain to point to their own installation or mobile-friendly site, they can have it.
[01:52:43] <gishzida> everdred: I like the app... just concerned to keep the data stream safe...
[01:53:52] <gishzida> everdred: at this point its probably no bid deal but once money comes into play then there may be things to worry about.
[01:55:23] <everdred> gishzida: re: security, I guess it comes down to the security of my server and of the Avantslash app. I'm not personally worried about my intentions. ;)
[02:00:18] <gishzida> everdred: exactly... Are you using https to connect to SN from your server?
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[02:02:19] <BadCoderFinger> Yo
[02:02:37] <gishzida> yo?
[02:02:53] <BadCoderFinger> A very short greeting.
[02:03:00] <gishzida> ah!
[02:03:23] <gishzida> a very short response
[02:03:31] <BadCoderFinger> How are you guys?
[02:03:48] <SpallsHurgenson> ehn.
[02:04:03] <BadCoderFinger> Hey Spalls!
[02:04:19] <SpallsHurgenson> Ya!
[02:04:37] <everdred> gishzida: Doesn't look like Avantslash does by default. Lemme fix that.
[02:05:16] <everdred> gishzida: I actually didn't realize you could connect to SN via https
[02:06:27] <gishzida> yup... though I don't think they have it set to forward to https:
[02:06:59] <gishzida> another one of those things that will get fixed eventually
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[02:07:22] <gishzida> mattie_p: how do we add things to the to_do list?
[02:08:13] * SpallsHurgenson glares at httpseverywhere for not automatically forwarding him
[02:08:15] <gishzida> guess he'd gone... who's minding the store?
[02:08:53] <bytram> gishzida: hi, maybe I can help? what's the question?
[02:09:48] <gishzida> I'd like to add https forwarding to the "to do" list... seems we aren't forwarding regular http to the https address
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[02:10:32] <bytram> I believe that's a known problem and it's already in plan to fix.
[02:10:51] <gishzida> bytram: thanks!
[02:11:02] <bytram> np
[02:11:17] <SpallsHurgenson> Is OMGPonies on the to-do list? April 1st is coming up pretty fast
[02:11:47] <bytram> gishzida: to make sure I understand, you'd like to be able to access SN entirely over a secure connection, right?
[02:12:19] <gishzida> bytram: right...
[02:12:41] <bytram> yup, they know about it!
[02:13:52] <gishzida> bytram: used to run a webserver for a credit union... always forced users to https... even though we didn't actually have any services running from that server
[02:14:50] <bytram> defense at depth. right!
[02:14:58] <gishzida> yup
[02:15:26] <everdred> gishzida: Just went through the code and changed all the relevant links to point to the secure pages.
[02:15:29] * bytram notices it also provides more fodder for the TLAs
[02:15:50] <gishzida> that was a bitch to set-up on a NetWare / Apache server
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[02:16:32] <bytram> I need to leave for a while... nice chatting with ya!
[02:16:41] <gishzida> regards
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[02:18:55] <Alberto> Anyone know c# ?
[02:19:05] <Alberto> need an advice on an experiment
[02:19:22] <GuardianM> write in C
[02:19:39] <BadCoderFinger> Heh! Good advice!
[02:20:04] * GuardianM nibbles on BadCoderFinger
[02:21:06] <gishzida> alberto: sorry don't code in anything that will cost me money... don't see to sharp either.
[02:21:07] <BadCoderFinger> Ew!
[02:21:19] <GuardianM> Mmm das good finger
[02:21:33] <GuardianM> tastes like cheese doodles and pizza rolls
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[02:24:12] <mattie_p> gishzida, which todo list are you talking about?
[02:24:34] <gishzida> having to do with the web server set-up
[02:25:10] <mattie_p> so on the wiki? you should be able to edit it yourself
[02:25:21] <gishzida> noticed you have both http and https but you're not forcing unsecured traffic to the securte port
[02:26:27] <gishzida> mattie_p: bug page?
[02:26:28] <mattie_p> I think that is a known bug, IIRC
[02:26:49] <mattie_p> let me check something....
[02:27:05] <mattie_p> !bug <gishzida> noticed you have both http and https but you're not forcing unsecured traffic to the securte port
[02:27:11] <mattie_p> nope, doesn't work yet
[02:27:26] <mattie_p> we're doing bugs on github, if you want to submit there or check for a dupe
[02:27:41] <gishzida> got an address?
[02:28:03] <mattie_p> https://github.com
[02:28:09] <gishzida> thnks!
[02:28:23] <mattie_p> yw
[02:28:35] <mattie_p> unfortunately I can't keep track of all the bugs personally
[02:28:42] <mattie_p> but if you see paulej72 you can ask him
[02:29:10] <gishzida> btw the wiki bug page forwards to github... just noticed.. thanks again
[02:29:47] <mattie_p> yw
[02:30:30] <gishzida> its there list as critical #84 logged 5 days ago
[02:30:32] <paulej72> gishzida: the issue with https is that it does no work well with slash and varnish, if I remember correctly. we have some things to fix to get it working,.
[02:32:29] <gishzida> So does https actuall work... tried it and it seems to or is it just a case that you can't forward the port from 80 to 443 with varnish in place?
[02:34:04] <gishzida> my recollection of apache 1.3 is that you have to hack the httpd.conf file
[02:34:37] <gishzida> been a couple of years since i had to do that
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[02:44:46] <SpallsHurgenson> <sigh> sometimes having multiple monitors can be annoying; I keep forgetting where I left my windows :)
[02:45:11] <BadCoderFinger> I wish I had that problem.
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[02:45:53] <SpallsHurgenson> use virtual desktops/workspaces; same problem without the extra hardware cluttering up your desk :)
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[02:46:18] <BadCoderFinger> I'm waiting until I can afford a 4K TV for a monitor.
[02:46:49] <BadCoderFinger> But that will be a while.
[02:47:03] <SpallsHurgenson> fortunately, I'm old and blind enough that all that extra resolution would be wasted; think of all the money I'm saving :-)
[02:47:09] <BadCoderFinger> I have 9 desktops now, heh!
[02:48:20] <BadCoderFinger> I'm old too, but my eyes work well.
[02:48:43] * SpallsHurgenson has 9 desktops on each of the 9 desktops sitting atop each of the 9 desktops! So there! :-)
[02:49:06] <SpallsHurgenson> (note: some claims by SpallsHurgenson may not be, strictly speaking, absolutely truthful)
[02:49:29] <prospectacle> wait thats......
[02:49:33] * prospectacle counts on fingers
[02:49:38] <prospectacle> 10 desktops!
[02:50:03] <stderr> 1 HA HA HA! 2 HA HA HA!
[02:50:19] <SpallsHurgenson> fortunately, I have more fingers than you! it's actually 729 desktops :)
[02:50:41] <SpallsHurgenson> and now you know why I keep losing windows :)
[02:50:59] <stderr> Pfffttt... 729 desktops? That's nothing... I won one Internet not that long ago...
[02:51:18] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, wait... each machine is also remoted into all the other computers, so it has access to all those workspaces too... that's... uh... oh, I think my brain just exploded
[02:51:28] <BadCoderFinger> Some sort of index might be in order, hash the window name for the desktop number.
[02:51:53] <sea> Hi all, don't laugh at me, but I'd just like a little clarification on this. If I charged one end of my violin strings positive, and the other end negative, and flipped the charges very rapidly while playing a note, should I get very wonky radio waves? Or would the string be vibrating too slowly with reference to the moving waves to affect them in any neat way?
[02:52:41] <SpallsHurgenson> would the vibration even matter?
[02:52:55] <BadCoderFinger> I think sound wave vibrations would make a very low frequency...
[02:52:58] <sea> SpallsHurgenson: That's what I'm asking. I /think/ that the vibration wouldn't matter at all..
[02:53:19] <SpallsHurgenson> there's only one way to find out for sure... to the Mad Scientist Laboratory!
[02:53:51] <gishzida> reminds me of the eBow which was used with electric guitars... see? general specialist
[02:53:51] <sea> :) I was hoping that I could broadcast violin music to space.
[02:53:54] <BadCoderFinger> What is the charge flip-flop speed?
[02:54:28] <sea> I could make a big old parabolic dish in the ground, stand right in the middle, and play something on my viol-transmittimusicatroninator.
[02:54:29] <stderr> 1.21 jiggahertz...
[02:54:35] <gishzida> sea: not likely you could transmit a strong enough signal
[02:54:39] <SpallsHurgenson> couldn't you just, I don't know, use a microphone and a radio transmitter? ;-)
[02:54:57] <sea> SpallsHurgenson: That's no fun..
[02:55:38] <sea> BadCoderFinger: The charge flip-flop speed determines the radio frequency that it broadcasts, right?
[02:55:39] <SpallsHurgenson> If you want fun, then a trombone needs to be involved somehow.
[02:56:14] <BadCoderFinger> Ungrounded trombone antenna!
[02:56:38] <gishzida> trombo-can-tenna!
[02:57:03] <gishzida> talk about a wave guide
[02:57:15] <BadCoderFinger> "Don't touch the trombone, son. That sucker's nuclear."
[02:57:33] <sea> Hrm. Seriously, though. There must be some way to convert sound waves to radio waves
[02:57:40] <sea> Then I could have like, a remote violin
[02:57:43] <gishzida> Plull the slide and change frequencies
[02:58:22] <SpallsHurgenson> technically, I guess the vibration would have some effect, I mean, its pushing the waveform as it moves back and forth. I just don't think it would have much of an effect because of the speed difference
[02:58:29] <Landon> sea: sure, hook a microphone up to your radio
[02:58:53] <Landon> that's how you transform sound waves to radio waves :) (not shitting)
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[03:00:09] <sea> Any ideas for making a violin string vibrate at close to the speed of light?
[03:00:32] <gishzida> or a pickup... then use an ebow... which is a handhled device that will cause a string to vibrate [a fancy high freq. electro-magnet] used by guitarists for sustained notes
[03:00:38] <SpallsHurgenson> bring it into contact with an antimatter violin string?
[03:00:55] <BadCoderFinger> That might spawn a universe.
[03:01:07] <SpallsHurgenson> technically, I guess it won't be a C-charged string after that, but its energy will probably be moving at the desired velocity :)
[03:01:09] <wjwlsn> travel
[03:01:13] <gishzida> a flash of light and hardy hi ho... booom!
[03:01:36] <sea> Landon: :) I wanted to do it another way
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[03:02:52] <Landon> where's janrinok
[03:02:57] <Landon> I need to strangle him for introducing me to pycharm
[03:04:08] <gishzida> what's wrong with pycharm?
[03:05:59] <SpallsHurgenson> it encourages python use? ;-)
[03:06:32] <gishzida> everdred: just checked on the https for SN-- it is not working
[03:06:49] <gishzida> everdred: if you are logged in
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[03:10:37] <Landon> gishzida: it's so damn good I just had to buy a license
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[03:12:16] <SpallsHurgenson> that evil fiend, recommending useful software!
[03:12:17] <gishzida> ah... well...
[03:12:45] <gishzida> useful software good... pricey software not so good
[03:14:44] <SpallsHurgenson> hmm, $199 isn't that bad. I mean, I wouldn't pay it but then I have no use for it. But for software that is necessary to the job, it's reasonable
[03:15:18] <Landon> SpallsHurgenson: that's for the business license :)
[03:15:57] <SpallsHurgenson> I know. $29 for the academic is a steal, if its good 'ware.
[03:15:58] * Landon wouldn't pay $199 either
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[03:16:56] <drussell> sea: Your main problem is actually transmittng any radiated power within the rules... Do you have an amateur radio license?
[03:17:00] <gishzida> i've been at this for too long... I rember the Turbo Pascal Compiler for $39 buck that ran circles arounds its competition
[03:17:14] <BadCoderFinger> Last non-game software that I bought was Borland Turbo C/C++ 3.0 (and that was a really, really long time ago).
[03:17:39] <Landon> heh
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[03:17:48] <Landon> last non-game software I bought before this was You Need A Budget
[03:17:50] <SpallsHurgenson> I actually still have Turbo c/c++ 3 stll installed on this machine, largely for nostalgia :)
[03:17:52] <Landon> (and I did need a budget...)
[03:18:10] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[03:18:41] <BadCoderFinger> I fiddled with OpenWatcom out of nostalgia. I loved Watcom back in the day, even with the bugs.
[03:18:46] <gishzida> Wrote TP3 apps used in the SSME QA program mid-80s
[03:19:04] <martyb> Landon: not bad... I've got MS Quick C version 2 (circa 1988)
[03:19:35] <drussell> I've still got my old Turbo C++3, TurboPascal, Microsoft QuickC and QuickBasic available here on my internal network :)
[03:19:57] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, come to think of it... I wonder how I did that since its 16-bit and I'm 64 bit...
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[03:20:05] <Landon> windows magic
[03:20:08] <gishzida> dosbox?
[03:20:24] * SpallsHurgenson launches the program, "Ah, dosbox!" :)
[03:20:25] <drussell> Was version 2 the one that came with the 'C for yourself' book from Microsoft Press?
[03:20:45] <gishzida> running win3.11 in dosbox
[03:21:00] <BadCoderFinger> TC3 could do 32 bit with a loader, I got 4GW to work with it.
[03:21:20] <sea> drussell: Uh, no..
[03:21:23] <gishzida> got Realizer 2 running in win311 / dosbox
[03:22:38] <gishzida> I do a lot of retro computing
[03:22:48] <SpallsHurgenson> I think I have win3 running in a virtualbox image somewhere. Sort of a threat for when Windows starts to piss me off. "Stop complaining or back to Program Manager you go!" ;-)
[03:22:52] <drussell> Hmm now I feel like loading it up just to see what version it was LOL... Been a long time :)
[03:23:34] <BadCoderFinger> I have 3.11 in a virtualbox.
[03:23:48] <gishzida> funny thing about running old programs is that most of the problems are due to 16bit installers
[03:24:08] <BadCoderFinger> I remember the old program "Wayfarer." Much nicer than program manager.
[03:24:45] <gishzida> downloaded ReBirth the other day and found it would not install on win7... installed it on XP then copied it to win7 no problem
[03:24:56] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[03:24:57] <SpallsHurgenson> omigod, I LOVED wayfarer
[03:25:31] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, it was nifty.
[03:25:39] <SpallsHurgenson> I used Wayfarer until inevitably I upgraded to win9x. that and some toolbar program that had a plunger as an icon
[03:26:07] <SpallsHurgenson> come to think of it...
[03:26:38] <BadCoderFinger> In 1995 I found Linux, and my life changed forever.
[03:27:06] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, I thought I had wayfarer installed in the win3 image; turns out it was Calmira :)
[03:28:04] <SpallsHurgenson> However, I still have Wayfarer.zip installed in the application archive on my network :)
[03:28:11] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, and barclock :)
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[03:28:23] <BadCoderFinger> I get by on Fluxbox, xfce-terminal, and Thunar these days.
[03:30:18] * sea is running Emacs/Linux
[03:30:35] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[03:30:36] <sea> but the Linux part is really just extraneous fluff..
[03:31:10] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, emacs is an OS. You just need to find an editor.
[03:32:11] <drussell> Ah, yes... Now I remember... I have QuickC 2.01... The one that also came with QuickAssembler (and the manuals for C, Assembler, the quick ref guide for C and the C for yourself beginners' book)
[03:32:17] <gishzida> isn't that what pico is for?
[03:32:45] <BadCoderFinger> There's a pico for emacs?
[03:33:47] <sea> BadCoderFinger: M-x C-y C-e e d i t o r C-c p i c o m o d e
[03:34:23] <sea> BadCoderFinger: The hotkey only works if you're in a relaxed state of mind, though. Your mental state is part of the chain..oh, and towards the end you need to get a little excited.
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[03:35:21] <sea> BadCoderFinger: If you're angry towards the end instead, then I think that activates an unfortunately similar hotkey that begins the annihilation of everything within 3 A.U.
[03:35:31] <BadCoderFinger> That seems a bit involved, heh!
[03:35:53] <gishzida> i was just thinking that the linux part was what was running the editor.. :)
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[03:37:32] <gishzida> after all with emacs you can run the universe its much too important to use as an editor.
[03:38:15] <drussell> I remember compiling emacs on a 386... That took a while :)
[03:39:20] <drussell> And sheesh, I thought it was bloated THEN... :)
[03:39:27] <SpallsHurgenson> I seem to remember EVERYTHING too a while on a 386 :)
[03:40:03] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, the 1.2 kernel (newly elf!) took about two hours.
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[03:40:45] <gishzida> think of the fun and excitement... I ran GroupWise on a 386
[03:41:21] <SpallsHurgenson> I had a, what, a 40MB HDD on my 386. It seemed everytime I wanted to install something, I needed to uninstall (err, delete) something else. It set up a lifetime of habits that I still haven't broken
[03:42:09] <drussell> Yeah, I remember compiling FreeBSD 1.1.7.1 before I got my first 486 and had enough disks to use one for src and one for obj took a couple hours for world and a couple more for the kernel :) X wasn't fun either
[03:43:20] <gishzida> gentoo on sparc
[03:44:51] <gishzida> compiled it but couldn't get X to work
[03:46:08] <BadCoderFinger> X used to be very persnickety.
[03:46:36] <SpallsHurgenson> not being able to get X to work pretty much described my experiences with linux throughout the 90s :)
[03:47:50] <gishzida> haven't been able to get Ubuntu to work the last 3 releases... I use Xubuntu becuase my hard ware is too ole
[03:47:54] <BadCoderFinger> I remember trying to hand calculate modelines. Ugh.
[03:48:39] <drussell> I never had any real problem getting X to work (even made custom modelines to get rediculous res like 1280x1024 out of my 14" monitors.. Well beyond video amp bandwidth spec) but compiling it took some time :)
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[03:48:55] <SpallsHurgenson> Ubuntu was maybe the first time I ever had a Linux just work with my video hardware without any tinkering. Might have been another, but Ubuntu definitely was impressive in that regard.
[03:49:02] <gishzida> or guessing which driver might work in the video mode the vidoe card will support
[03:49:41] <drussell> Never had any problems with the Cirrus Logic 5428s, they were very configurable but not many cards at the time were...
[03:50:16] <gishzida> Ubuntu was fine for me until they decided Unity was the way forward... and none of the hardware I'm runing linus on is new enough
[03:50:40] <gishzida> linux
[03:50:54] <gishzida> lord know no one can run linus
[03:50:56] <drussell> Basically as soon as I discovered that there was a 386 port of UNIX (found wcarchive) and realized FreeBSD was going to be a gamechanger for me, I ran out and got a 486 mobo and haven't looked back since :)
[03:51:16] <SpallsHurgenson> wuarchive, woo :)
[03:51:38] <Cyprus> worst i ever had was custom timing X out to a TV so to remove the overlap at 1080i
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[03:52:27] <drussell> Within about 6 months I had upgraded myself to a $240/mo dedicated 28.8K dial-up... Had a class C of addresses on it too, at the time! :)
[03:53:20] * SpallsHurgenson makes modem connect noises with his mouth "Beee-eeeoooowwww-sssssshhhh-tik-tik-tik"
[03:53:24] <drussell> The guys at the small little startup ISP liked me and put a good USR courier on it like I had at my end so I actually got 33.6K :)
[03:53:58] <BadCoderFinger> Ah, th days of US Robotics!
[03:54:22] <SpallsHurgenson> I think my 28.8 was a Zoom, purchased before they finalized the standard
[03:54:32] <BadCoderFinger> FidoNet in front of Wildcat!
[03:55:05] <gishzida> and all of their clones... I tested Best Data modems for Part 68 and Part 15 compliance... they were dawgs on radiated emissions...
[03:55:20] <drussell> I still have each of my Couriers from my first 14.4K HST I got on the SysOp program as soon as they introduced the 14.4K upgradable one instead of the 9600.... I think I paid about $700 USD, IIRC
[03:55:41] <drussell> I was 1:134/45 :)
[03:55:50] <drussell> QuickBBS
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[03:55:53] <SpallsHurgenson> I think my zoom modem was the first hardware where I flashed some firmware
[03:56:01] <drussell> Well, and Binkley
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[03:57:09] <gishzida> SpallaHergenson: The only ones I flased were with a 3KV lightning surge simulator... POP!
[03:57:50] <gishzida> Don't try that at home
[03:58:56] <gishzida> FCC has funny rules... its okay if it blows up... but if it does work after you've zapped it it has to comply
[03:59:19] <BadCoderFinger> Gotta run, night guys!
[03:59:26] <gishzida> nite!
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[03:59:35] <bytram> nite!!
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[04:08:06] <drussell> "Butter your bacon, boy!" :)
[04:08:32] <drussell> But dad, my heart hurts!
[04:10:29] <gishzida> have a little salt with that!
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[04:22:18] <gishzida> night folks!
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[04:22:57] <SpallsHurgenson> I can only seem to do work on the laptop these days... if I try to do it on the desktop, there are too many distractions
[04:25:01] <prospectacle> What do you mean spalls. What additional distractions are there on a desktop?
[04:25:12] <SpallsHurgenson> well, IRC :)
[04:25:23] <SpallsHurgenson> and the webbrowser with all those open tabs
[04:25:32] <SpallsHurgenson> and the games
[04:25:35] <SpallsHurgenson> and all the other apps
[04:26:02] <SpallsHurgenson> and the movies
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[04:37:10] <prospectacle> Spalls, aren't these things on laptops too?
[04:38:03] <SpallsHurgenson> they CAN be, but they aren't on THIS laptop :)
[04:38:26] <SpallsHurgenson> (well, the laptop currently on my lap; right now I am actually typing on a desktop)
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[04:40:43] <prospectacle> Ah the old don't-install-distractions trick
[04:41:20] <prospectacle> But your laptop is on your lap and you're using irc anyway. Just saying
[04:43:14] <SpallsHurgenson> yes, but if it were JUST the desktop, I wouldn't be as productive as I am now :)
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[04:43:31] <SpallsHurgenson> which is to say, not very but still greater than zero :)
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[04:45:08] <prospectacle> Makes sense
[04:45:51] <SpallsHurgenson> that's a terrible thing to insinuate about me!
[04:47:31] <prospectacle> Well if the cheese fits
[04:47:51] <SpallsHurgenson> don't get me started on cheese again
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[05:21:40] <Khyber> So, about this javascript-based slashsite lightener....
[05:21:43] <Khyber> http://tools.pingdom.com!/b5U5S6/soylentnews.org
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[05:22:00] <Khyber> What's the point when each page I've tested is under 200kB?
[05:22:42] <Khyber> even 28.8 dialup would load the site in reasonable time
[05:23:46] <sea> Why not offer a compressed RSS feed?
[05:23:59] <Khyber> I thought we had one already?
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[05:24:30] <sea> I dunno..
[05:24:31] <Khyber> Hell we could probably put on old ass v.53 compression and cut the page size (mostly text) down to like 60kB
[05:24:31] <Konomi> this seems like the best channel to post this
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[05:24:33] <Konomi> http://boingboing.net
[05:25:03] <Khyber> A bouquet I could eat! I'm down for that!
[05:25:49] <FoobarBazbot_> Konomi, ## is a better choice...
[05:26:06] <Konomi> there's a ##Soylent now?
[05:26:12] <FoobarBazbot_> No, ##
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[05:27:37] <FoobarBazbot_> Konomi, I don't see you in ## yet...
[05:27:51] <Konomi> didn't know it existed ;p
[05:28:10] <NCommander> Khyber, you insensetive clod, some of us have to deal with 14.4k!
[05:28:47] <Admiral_coolbp> what if I do?
[05:28:51] <Khyber> Phst. I'm still running XMODEM on a 2400baud BBS :D
[05:29:02] <Admiral_coolbp> that would make you the insensitive clod NCommander
[05:29:07] <Khyber> running Windowed Modem Environment on a 75MHz Toshiba Satellite.
[05:29:14] <drussell> Yeah, 33K < 200K .... Good day, NCommander...
[05:29:38] <NCommander> Khyber, my Apple II is jealous
[05:30:00] <NCommander> why I bet you don't need to flip the disk to get the file transfer protocols
[05:30:12] <Khyber> I dunno, let me ask my TI 99/4A
[05:30:27] <NCommander> Actually, the TI 99 has more horse power than an Apple 2
[05:30:55] * LaminatorX had 99/4a.
[05:31:03] <Khyber> Yep, but that's because it used solid-state cartridges!
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[05:31:10] * Khyber still has Hunt The Wumpus and Blast-o!
[05:31:33] <Khyber> I had the cassette data recorder drive, too
[05:31:39] <Khyber> no floppy
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[05:32:29] <drussell> I have three TI-99/4a here... That was out first home computer :)
[05:33:39] <drussell> I've never had the Peripheral Expansion Box for one, though, so no floppy either
[05:33:48] <Ethanol-fueled> KOMPUTAH?
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[05:34:04] <drussell> It IS 16 bit, though... Only 256 bytes of RAM on the 16 bit bus, but it's 16 bit! :)
[05:34:34] <drussell> SRAM, too... No refresh to slow you down! :)
[05:36:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Mexicans steal computers.
[05:36:14] <Khyber> It was the Nintendo before the NES :D
[05:36:35] <Ethanol-fueled> A Mexican stole my NES games.
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[05:38:11] <Ethanol-fueled> I lent the motherfucker 3 cartridges, including my Bionic Commando, and he comes over later and said that somebody broke into his house and stole my Nintendo games. Since his family was backing him up, my family were too dignified to be accusatory.
[05:38:34] * arti has bionic commando rearmed
[05:39:02] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm gonna fuck you up if I ever see you again, Ritchie. You good-for-nothing Wetback!
[05:39:14] <arti> just download the roms?
[05:41:40] <drussell> Yeah, I just made a CROM and GROM cart emulator on a proto board with some battery backed sram (actually a Dallas time chip/eeprom) and use that to load carts from a PC parallel port
[05:41:54] <arti> nice
[05:41:59] <drussell> I don't even know where my real Munch Man cartridge is...
[05:42:24] <Admiral_coolbp> Ethanol-fueled: curious to know how the last weeks drama went over with you
[05:42:39] <Ethanol-fueled> the drama? Pretty damn funny.
[05:43:03] <drussell> I think the Dallas chip is loaded with Munch Man II right in the first block of RAM right now... I should power one up and play a few rounds, haven't powered up a 99/4a for years...
[05:46:03] <Ethanol-fueled> kinda eye-rolling, though, but at least had the human touch. It just goes to show that you are flawed, and so are we all. The lessons and morals learned make me feel so warm and fuzzy inside that I want to hug a n*gger.
[05:46:38] <Admiral_coolbp> we are
[05:46:44] <Admiral_coolbp> we are trying to get better though
[05:47:46] <Ethanol-fueled> It didn't bug me at all, I'd be pretty sad if you folded though.
[05:47:46] <drussell> Growing pains... There's bound to be some in a project like this...
[05:49:30] <baconbutter> [poutine] NCommander, are you staying on with the project?
[05:49:52] <NCommander> I am, just taking a slight reprieve given recent events to get my head screwed up straight again.
[05:50:20] <NCommander> I'm on reduced duty until I return to the United States (I've been on a semi-fixed iterinatory that was preset before SN was ever a thing)
[05:50:26] <baconbutter> [poutine] drussell, It's what I feared,
[05:50:26] <NCommander> (which is on Sunday)
[05:51:41] <drussell> poutine: ? Please elaborate... (if I dare ask...)
[05:52:45] <baconbutter> [poutine] Well drussell, it's not as if this person is buying it because he's part of the community, he's buying it because he thinks it's a start-up. he gives NO answers to questions which are asked, like what kind of organization will it be, for profit, non-profit, etc, and he straight up says he won't be forthcoming with information
[05:53:11] <baconbutter> [poutine] Q16: Will you be providing input, updates, thoughts, concerns, etc. on a regular basis?
[05:53:12] <baconbutter> [poutine] Q16 (rephrased): Should we expect to receive a steady stream of information from a person who chose the nickname "BlackHole"?
[05:53:12] <baconbutter> [poutine] A16: I wouldn't count on it ;-)
[05:53:25] <baconbutter> [poutine] Q10: So, why did you purchase these 'rights'?
[05:53:25] <baconbutter> [poutine] A10: I have some experience with this kind of situation (organization-shattering conflict among startup co-founders), and saw an opportunity to help.
[05:53:42] <drussell> poutine: That's not what I got from it at all, but you're free to believe whatever you wish
[05:55:08] <baconbutter> [poutine] drussell, uh what? He's very clear in his words, how are you drawing some other conclusion, care to explain your take?
[05:55:13] <drussell> poutine: What about Q8 and Q12?
[05:55:59] <baconbutter> [poutine] Q8, legal entity is a corporation drussell
[05:56:35] <drussell> poutine: Or a society or foundation, for example... Yes...
[05:56:47] <baconbutter> [poutine] I fail to see how Q12 can be seen as a ray of sunshine, it's just stating that he's incorporating now
[05:56:51] <FoobarBazbot> baconbutter: s/\].*/] SHIT I AM TALKING SHIT OMG ITS COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH LOOK/
[05:56:51] <SedBot> <FoobarBazbot> <baconbutter> [poutine] SHIT I AM TALKING SHIT OMG ITS COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH LOOK
[05:57:02] <baconbutter> [poutine] there's _no_ indication here this will be non-profit
[05:57:06] <FoobarBazbot> poutine--
[05:57:06] <baconbutter> karma - poutine: -314
[05:57:20] <baconbutter> [poutine] There's many indicators this will be a for-profit venture
[05:57:28] <baconbutter> [poutine] Do you disagree with those two statements?
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[05:57:47] <Khyber> There are many indicators that poutine's mom is a for-profit venture, as well. :D
[05:57:55] <drussell> Lol...
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[05:58:05] <Alberto> pputine, ur so gay :P
[05:58:07] <kobach> whats happening now
[05:58:13] <drussell> Be nice... We don't have to stoop to his level :)
[05:58:42] <baconbutter> [poutine] kobach, the new owner of SN spoke up and said he doesn't care about community feedback, won't be forthcoming with information, and he's a "failing startup" fixer, so he'll make a good company out of it
[05:58:56] <kobach> .quiet baconbutter
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[05:59:02] <kobach> there you guys go
[05:59:04] <kobach> have fun
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[05:59:06] <arti> hahahaha
[05:59:25] <baconbutter> [poutine] little does he know that he does not own the source code or the community
[05:59:46] <baconbutter> [poutine] I can say with certainty that soylentnews will never become a thing
[06:00:05] <baconbutter> [poutine] have fun with dice jr
[06:00:09] <drussell> poutine: Then why are you here trying to "help" ?
[06:00:11] <baconbutter> [poutine] I'm out
[06:00:17] <NCommander> !grab baconbutter
[06:00:17] <baconbutter> I don't know what baconbutter said, so I can't quote them!
[06:00:20] <NCommander> ....
[06:00:25] <NCommander> you piece of shit bot
[06:00:51] <FoobarBazbot> lol
[06:01:02] <sea> !help
[06:02:05] <sea> I conclude that the bot is actively working against us.
[06:02:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh noes!
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[06:03:38] <drussell> I've had just about enough cheese curd and gravy shovelled around here today.. I think some is stuck in my ear even, so I'm not putting out any more troll feed ;)
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[06:04:04] <LaminatorX> Whatever he said, all b had to sell was the domain. I'm not worried about that qa..
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[06:05:06] <drussell> Nope, I'm not either... Even if he acted like poutine and tried to hold the domain name for ransom, who cares... Change the name and register some new ones. Problem solved.
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[06:05:49] <drussell> It's actually GOOD, I think that several people have been involved with the initial set-up, makes it much harder for one rogue individual to really make off with much of real value
[06:06:37] <drussell> think that it's good that...
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[06:19:47] <Kif> [Popsikle|2] Ncommander could run off with everythign no?
[06:20:31] <Admiral_coolbp> poutine: that is not the direction we are headed
[06:20:57] <drussell> He's currently got the keys to the most important locks, yes, but I don't think THAT's very likely either...
[06:22:29] <Admiral_coolbp> NCommander's goal is to set up a NFP (or non-profit) ASAP
[06:22:48] <NCommander> Right now, its depwait me having an address in the United States
[06:22:59] * NCommander hasn't had one of those in almost a year
[06:23:07] <NCommander> Having a permament address again is something of a novelity
[06:23:11] <Kif> [Popsikle] I dunno man, I dont trust Ubuntu guys!
[06:23:23] * NCommander changes his email to mcasadevall@debian.org
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[06:24:32] <drussell> NCommander: I for one would like to take the opportunity to thank you for all your hard work thus far... Most people have been doing an excellent job thus far under the strain of a new project and nobody ever gets proper kudos!
[06:25:27] <GungnirSniper> Indeed, All Hail NCommander!
[06:25:44] <NCommander> I for one welcome our N Commanding overloard
[06:26:55] <Admiral_coolbp> hahaha
[06:27:15] <Admiral_coolbp> me too
[06:27:16] <drussell> NComander++
[06:27:16] <Kif> karma - ncomander: 1
[06:27:21] <drussell> ffs
[06:27:23] <Admiral_coolbp> only one!?!?!?!
[06:27:30] <Admiral_coolbp> y'all need to get on that
[06:27:34] <drussell> NCommander++
[06:27:34] <Kif> karma - ncommander: 9
[06:27:42] <Admiral_coolbp> ah...
[06:27:47] <NCommander> WTF
[06:27:48] <Admiral_coolbp> that's slightly better
[06:27:54] <Admiral_coolbp> NCommander++
[06:27:54] <Kif> karma - ncommander: 10
[06:27:54] <NCommander> The bots math is kinda fucked up
[06:27:55] <drussell> The AAs in this wireless keyboard in the livingroom are getting weak :)
[06:28:08] <drussell> m vs mm
[06:28:14] <Admiral_coolbp> NCommander: he spelled it wrong
[06:28:18] <Kif> [Popsikle] Ncommander+=1
[06:28:23] <NCommander> Tab complete is your friend
[06:28:33] <NCommander> NCommander_karma == -1*poutine_karma
[06:28:34] <Kif> [Popsikle] im sorry, that doesnt work for me!
[06:28:34] <NCommander> :-)
[06:28:35] <FoobarBazbot> Ncolander++
[06:28:35] <Kif> karma - ncolander: 1
[06:28:43] <NCommander> NFruitSalad++
[06:28:43] <Kif> karma - nfruitsalad: 1
[06:28:58] <drussell> NCommander, Sweet, I never knew that one before... Sheez, where've I been? :)
[06:29:22] <arti> how was the train NCommander?
[06:29:34] <NCommander> arti, it wasn't the worst I ever took
[06:29:38] <NCommander> But it wasn't great
[06:29:42] <NCommander> But it got my mind off things
[06:29:44] <arti> i usually rank pizzas the same way
[06:29:50] <NCommander> Woodlands customs and immigration was interesting
[06:29:59] <drussell> How many hours journey?
[06:30:05] <NCommander> 8, from Kuala Lumpar
[06:30:07] <arti> did you travel with a ziplock full of cap'n crunch?
[06:30:11] <NCommander> I love how the train stops right on the Singapore border, and comes nowhere close to the city center
[06:30:17] <Kif> [Popsikle] when you ride NJ Transit trains daily every other train ride will feel like the best trian ever
[06:30:20] <NCommander> arti, nope, I have a bigass donut, fried rice and a coke
[06:30:21] <arti> "here's good"
[06:30:31] <NCommander> I used to ride Metro North daily for three years
[06:30:43] <Kif> [Popsikle] the MTA trains are way better than NJT
[06:30:52] <NCommander> That's true
[06:30:59] <arti> well i'm glad to hear it wasn't nightmare status
[06:31:00] <NCommander> I'm pretty sure the NJT train I took to EWR escaped the 1960s
[06:31:12] <NCommander> Actually, that was very close to the train I took from KUL->SIN
[06:31:25] <Kif> [Popsikle] yea, they have some new ones now, but tomorrow they will all be delayed becauses its going to be 20 degress
[06:31:46] <Kif> [Popsikle] and anythign but sunshine and 71.4 degrees means broken down trains
[06:32:06] <NCommander> Sounds about right
[06:32:23] <NCommander> Its amazing the Northeast Corridor keeps running when NJT trains are failing left and right
[06:32:35] <juggs> Wait what now - I'm confused. Does an Admiral out rank a Commander? Or are they different forces entirely and equivalent?
[06:32:38] <Kif> [Popsikle] I took the MTA from Wappingers to NYC for years, and I had less issues than I have in the last 4m monhts
[06:32:50] <Kif> [Popsikle] and I only take the trian from SEC -> NYP its one f;ing stop
[06:32:51] <arti> navy doesn't have commanders
[06:33:15] <arti> nm they do
[06:33:26] <arti> admiral outranks commander
[06:33:37] <arti> :| carry on
[06:33:40] <Admiral_coolbp> haha
[06:33:44] <Admiral_coolbp> sorry NC
[06:33:51] <Khyber> Admiral, Commodore, Captain, Commander, Lieutenant, Ensign.
[06:34:05] <Khyber> Seaman/Yeoman
[06:34:16] <Admiral_coolbp> well looks like I'm on top...
[06:34:24] <arti> :>
[06:34:25] <Khyber> phrasing
[06:34:29] <Admiral_coolbp> haha
[06:34:35] * Admiral_coolbp considers phrasing
[06:34:35] <arti> i thought it was all with the handshake thing
[06:34:40] <Kif> [Popsikle] NCommander where did you ride the MTA from?
[06:35:28] <NCommander> Kif, Pelham (later New Rochelle) to Grand Central and back
[06:35:35] <NCommander> New Haven Line
[06:36:20] <Kif> [Popsikle] not so north metro north ;)
[06:41:56] * Admiral_coolbp enjoys crickets for once
[06:42:21] <juggs> lol. For some reason I always associate Admirals with surface ships and Commanders with boats (submarines). I must have watched Das Boat too much growing up or something. Where does Fleet Commander fit in to your line up Khyber ?
[06:42:42] * NCommander almost done booking travel
[06:42:47] <juggs> << never been a military bod.
[06:43:05] <Khyber> Fleet Commander is Royal Navy, not US Navy :)
[06:43:23] <NCommander> Looks like I'll have 7 hours to kill in the Phillaphines
[06:43:34] <juggs> Khyber++ Informative
[06:43:34] <Kif> karma - khyber: 14
[06:43:51] <NCommander> Ok
[06:43:54] <NCommander> All return flights booked
[06:43:54] <juggs> explains my confusion given I am on the UK rocky outcrop
[06:44:10] * NCommander swings from Singapore to Manila, then to Hong Kong, Japan, New York
[06:44:15] <NCommander> I'm playing Pacific Pinball :-)
[06:44:17] <Admiral_coolbp> NCommander: thank you in phillipino: Salamat
[06:44:41] <Khyber> juggs: Yep that'd explain it
[06:46:12] * NCommander notes the final pisser:
[06:46:24] <NCommander> I get off the plane in Newark, and have to get on NJ Transit to get home
[06:46:25] <NCommander> FML
[06:46:45] <Kif> [Popsikle] at least newark is the nicer of the 3
[06:46:54] <Kif> [Popsikle] you could get stuck at lga
[06:46:56] <NCommander> Yeah, which is why I prefer it
[06:46:58] <NCommander> *winces*
[06:47:06] <NCommander> If you're coming in international, the choices are EWR or JFK
[06:47:13] <NCommander> EWR has an immigration hall from this century
[06:47:17] <juggs> NCommander, my personal pref out of those destinations - Manila.
[06:47:26] <NCommander> juggs, I've never been to the Phillipines
[06:47:39] <NCommander> My plan is to get in, cross immigration, race into the city, see something, get back to the city, get back to Hong Kong
[06:47:54] <NCommander> Figure out where I'm going to kill12 hours, then get back on the train, and head back to the United States via Japan
[06:49:30] <juggs> Oh, you're just hopping through rather than spending any time.
[06:49:37] <juggs> ignore me then
[06:49:48] <NCommander> juggs, cheap flight, but the layover is long enough to head into the city
[06:50:40] <Admiral_coolbp> NCommander: this is the link to the NFP discussion: http://soylentnews.org
[06:50:44] <Admiral_coolbp> save it for later
[06:51:52] <NCommander> Yeah
[06:52:06] <Admiral_coolbp> = )
[06:52:27] <juggs> Well Manila far less uptight compared to Singapore and less busy compared to HK. It's a nice place to spend some time IME (spent some months out there managing outsourced ops stuff).
[06:53:15] <NCommander> juggs, I don't get to spend enough time in Asia
[06:53:19] <Kif> [Popsikle] wow those buildings are leveled eh
[06:53:20] <NCommander> But I'm putting up my travel boots for awhile
[06:53:22] <Kif> [Popsikle] err ww
[06:53:28] <NCommander> To get SoylentNews incorperated
[06:53:34] * NCommander wouldn't mind doing a fundraiser though:
[06:53:59] <NCommander> NCommander travels the world to raise money for Soylent; will go as far as possible without flying, donate this much for every KM travelled (by great circle distance)
[06:54:29] <NCommander> Or donate X for each country visited (and I will try and visit every country in the world)
[06:54:52] <Kif> [Popsikle] I miss being able to travel =(
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[06:57:35] <NCommander> Kif, I sold everything I owned and started travelling full time awhiel ago
[06:58:29] <Kif> [Popsikle] so does that mean when you get back you have to find a home too?
[06:58:46] <NCommander> Yeah
[06:58:52] <NCommander> Because I need a permament address while setting up a NFP
[06:58:54] <Kif> [Popsikle] oh thats fun.
[06:59:01] <NCommander> I'm debating what state I want to live in
[06:59:02] <Kif> [Popsikle] Cant you just use a po box?
[06:59:04] <NCommander> Alaska sounding awesome, but Hawaii is a choice
[06:59:16] <Kif> [Popsikle] i have a few nfp's to a po box
[06:59:19] <NCommander> Usually, you have to be a resident to found a business
[06:59:30] <NCommander> Its more I'm not a resident on any state
[06:59:45] <NCommander> (strictly speaking, legally, I am an NYS resident as that's where my taxes currently go, but that's flimsly)
[06:59:45] <Kif> [Popsikle] you dont have a ny license?
[06:59:51] <NCommander> I still have my old OR license
[07:00:30] <Kif> [Popsikle] San Deigo is nice ;) Id move there if I could afford it.
[07:00:36] <Khyber> Come on out to California, we'll have legal weed soon enough, and you can stay warm and in relatively tropical areas!
[07:00:39] <NCommander> The NFP founding stuff requires contact w/ lawyers, paperwork, and the IRS
[07:00:49] <NCommander> I rather not have them shoot it down due to stupidity
[07:01:11] <Admiral_coolbp> NCommander different states might have different NFP rules, laws etc.
[07:01:17] <juggs> NCommander, there's probably some countries / areas you may not wish to visit right at this moment. e.g. some states in Africa that are in a state of unrest, Crimea (depending on one's views as to whether that is an independent state). Can be helpful to have more than one nationality of passport in some situations if you do a lot of travelling.
[07:01:19] <NCommander> Admiral_coolbp, part of my research :-)
[07:01:22] <Admiral_coolbp> yeah
[07:01:25] <Kif> [Popsikle] Well, technically to get started it does not need nay of that. It needs all that to accept donations and have a board, and such.
[07:01:41] * NCommander can terchnically claim second citizenship, but it would make my life more complanicated, not less
[07:02:23] <juggs> heyzeus I'm starting to sound like Jason fucking Bourne with all that multi-passport stuff.
[07:02:56] <NCommander> juggs, I'm quite aware of that. I've actually visited Iraq (and landed in Eygpt the day the Cairo Revolution started, so you know ... war zones)
[07:03:16] <NCommander> My passport is exciting
[07:03:30] <NCommander> juggs, but if I thought we could get enough pledges, I'd be fucking on the road right now
[07:03:41] <NCommander> Criss-crossing the world without flying
[07:03:48] <NCommander> And meeting every Soylent user I cacn
[07:06:17] <juggs> You'd be spending eons on sea and cross-land transport - not that that is a bad thing. Sea transport gives downtime to contemplate and overland transport exposes one to stuff one wouldn't otherwise encounter if on the tourist trail. I just wish I had the personal funds to go exploring more, it's eye opening.
[07:07:11] <NCommander> Honestly, really, its not that bad
[07:07:21] * NCommander managed to get across the Balkins on less than $400 USD
[07:07:33] <NCommander> And I could have cut that in half if I did more couch-surfing, preplanning
[07:07:38] <NCommander> That was almost all last minute crap
[07:08:25] <Kif> [Popsikle] we had a few eve corp-mates do that for a while, like over a year, and floated between other corp members places
[07:08:43] <NCommander> Yeah
[07:08:49] <NCommander> After we're incorperated, amybe a year later
[07:08:53] <Kif> [Popsikle] lot of train tickets and 4 plane tickets over a 10 month span
[07:08:57] <NCommander> I might legit do it as a fundraiser
[07:09:20] <NCommander> See how far I can go, may even try to break the world record
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[07:09:22] <juggs> sure, when in country getting around is not to spendy - it is more getting too $region that is spendy, as is hiring local fixers if one is travelling in certain places.
[07:11:00] <NCommander> Yeah
[07:11:12] <NCommander> I know someone who went to Yemen and managed to pay a fixer to go away
[07:11:17] <NCommander> Which amused the shit out of me
[07:11:53] <NCommander> juggs, its fun to think about. I think it would be an amazing story and be good publicity for SoylentNews
[07:12:04] * NCommander can litterially attempt to meet every user
[07:12:54] <Admiral_coolbp> that is ambitious already NCommander
[07:13:13] <NCommander> Well, I suspect I'd start somewhere in South America
[07:13:16] <NCommander> Then make my way north
[07:13:23] <NCommander> Visit all 50 states
[07:13:27] <NCommander> And the Canadian Proviences
[07:13:30] <NCommander> hitchhike to Alaska
[07:13:35] <juggs> You're kinda assuming that everyone or even anyone would actually want to meet you - and pay for the privilege to do so.
[07:13:48] <NCommander> juggs, :-P, how to ruin my plans
[07:13:56] <juggs> :D
[07:14:30] * NCommander does plan to visit every country in the world
[07:15:01] <NCommander> BTW
[07:15:02] <NCommander> total hits: 20414741
[07:15:05] <NCommander> ^- you guys rock
[07:15:33] <juggs> Just wielding the practicality pins to your what if's. I mean no harm.
[07:15:42] <Admiral_coolbp> 20 million hits? not bad....
[07:16:03] <juggs> over what time?
[07:16:12] <Admiral_coolbp> ~1 month
[07:16:21] <juggs> what's the uniques?
[07:16:30] <Admiral_coolbp> have to ask the big boss
[07:16:33] <juggs> unique visitors
[07:17:25] * NCommander checks
[07:17:31] <Admiral_coolbp> .........
[07:17:42] <NCommander> grand total: 3641 36529 1580264 (44136.9 MB)
[07:17:48] <NCommander> UIDs/IPIDs
[07:17:56] <juggs> still - any way up it's a pretty effin impressive effort. Just shows there really was a latent build up of animosity toward that Dice site.
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[07:21:45] <Admiral_coolbp> juggs: thanks, there's been a lot of hard work
[07:22:39] <juggs> Being a dumb git I had to look up what an IPID was... who'd have thought someone already wrote a book about slashcode! http://books.google.co.uk
[07:23:41] <Admiral_coolbp> it's an IP ID if I understand correctly
[07:24:02] <juggs> as I understand it also.
[07:24:08] <juggs> now :D
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[07:29:29] <NCommander> juggs, yeah, its an old book though
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[07:29:39] <NCommander> But slash had a vogue of being a popular CMS for awhile
[07:29:43] <NCommander> Before PHP was a thing
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[07:30:35] <juggs> Admiral_coolbp, I know there has been a lot of hard work by people here and also not represented here and I appreciate that effort. And I apologise if my contributions have seemed inflammatory at times, I don't mean them to be. I've just spent far too long being the clutch in big orgs between the "this would be great" Cxx level and the "this is what is practical with that budget" Ops level. I think I maybe a spent clutch :D
[07:31:14] <mattie_p> juggs! thanks for reminder yesterday
[07:32:37] <mattie_p> can't chat, need sleep, tho
[07:32:54] <juggs> so go.
[07:33:02] <mattie_p> ok
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[07:40:39] <Kif> [SoylentNews] - Oceans of Water Deep in the Earth - http://sylnt.us - Professor-Lidenbrock's-Neighborhood
[07:53:02] <sea> Lidenbrock!
[07:53:23] * sea shuffles the bookcase and picks out "A journey to the center of the earth"
[07:53:36] <sea> NCommander: You want to visit every SN user? Good luck getting to my island. :3
[07:56:40] <juggs> NCommander, it is well past due that we reincarnate what went before. I have teenage nieces/nephews who want nothing to do with anything "web" as they see it simply because it is too intrusive. But they are too young to encounter anything that was the precursor that they can build on so they discard it altogether. It brings to mind Pink Floyd's Keep Talking vis "It Doesn't Have To Be Like This". We need to free young minds to do great things because
[07:56:40] <juggs> we all here will be dead soon (in any sensible timeframe).
[08:04:05] <juggs> sea, where do you live Palmerston Island?
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[09:02:16] <prospectacle> this web irc client is cool.
[09:02:25] <prospectacle> I say ten years max before 99% of user applications are web based
[09:02:58] <prospectacle> what is left to conquer? 3d is almost there, music/video just needs a couple of standards to become ubiquitous (of the half dozen that are currently supported by different browsers).
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[09:03:35] <prospectacle> JS is never gonna be truly fast enough for some apps, but there are sub-sets which are faster as supported by some browsers at least.
[09:04:09] <Titanium> nobody has visited me in over a year
[09:05:00] <prospectacle> Titanium, have you visited them?
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[09:08:04] <Titanium> yes
[09:08:21] <Titanium> they complain as i dont have anywhere to sit
[09:08:29] <Titanium> only got and only need 1 chair
[09:08:36] <MrBluze> Is your house dirty?
[09:08:54] <Titanium> yes
[09:08:58] <Titanium> but they dont know that ;)
[09:09:26] <MrBluze> Lol ok
[09:09:49] <Titanium> and they complain there is no bed in my guest bedroom
[09:09:56] <Titanium> just a few racks of servers and stuff
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[09:10:36] <MrBluze> Get a bed, buy some chairs and a coffee table
[09:10:42] <prospectacle> Titanium, sounds like you're creating an environment that respectually declines offers of company
[09:10:56] <Titanium> i have a coffee table
[09:11:09] <Titanium> i used to have a couch, but they complained about where i kept it
[09:12:05] <MrBluze> Ok
[09:12:22] <Titanium> it was in the corner leaning on the wall
[09:12:29] <Titanium> took up less space on end i figured
[09:12:35] <MrBluze> So why did you get rid of the couch instead of moving iy
[09:12:57] <Titanium> my brother wanted it
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[09:13:04] <MrBluze> Ok
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[09:22:29] <MrBluze> Hi crutchy
[09:22:37] <MrBluze> U got a log?
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[09:23:11] <crutchy> hi mrbluze
[09:23:25] <crutchy> yeah i just rebooted my poota
[09:24:08] <crutchy> log just runs using sic in a term
[09:24:51] <crutchy> whatcha been up to?
[09:26:14] <MrBluze> Work
[09:26:20] <MrBluze> Busy and yuck
[09:26:25] <MrBluze> How bout u?
[09:26:28] <crutchy> sucks
[09:26:30] <crutchy> same
[09:26:38] <MrBluze> Yeah I want a holiday
[09:26:41] <crutchy> had a doozy of a phone call right at end of day
[09:26:48] <MrBluze> Oh?
[09:27:57] <crutchy> one of those "yeah i know you guys are cheap and quick, but other companies make stuff much lighter so why do you make us do such n such"
[09:28:44] <crutchy> one of those "what do we pay you for again?" type phone calls
[09:29:23] <crutchy> that goes on for about a half hour
[09:29:43] <prospectacle> I hate those, I assume you're not an owner of the company? So you have to be all "oh i totally care what you think"
[09:29:45] <MrBluze> Oh I know what u mean
[09:30:34] <crutchy> nah i'm just a pleb
[09:32:41] <crutchy> nice guy but i dunno why the hell people have to leave calls like that till home time
[09:33:40] <arti> the end of the day long ones are awesome
[09:34:40] <crutchy> it was good cos he seemed to be understanding and we might get some more work :-)
[09:35:19] <MrBluze> That has to be good
[09:36:21] <prospectacle> nice one
[09:36:26] <crutchy> my usb stick changed names
[09:36:40] <crutchy> it's now called ".Run;end."
[09:36:44] <crutchy> :-P
[09:36:59] <crutchy> nfi how it got to be that
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[09:46:43] <prospectacle> what language are irc normally in?
[09:46:50] <prospectacle> ^irc bots
[09:47:59] <Titanium> assembly
[09:48:02] <Titanium> or brainfuk
[09:48:14] <Titanium> becuase the people that tend to write irc bots can
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[09:50:39] <swiss> malbolge
[09:50:55] <arti> prospectacle: it depends
[09:51:35] <arti> you can write them in any language which you can use sockets in
[09:52:31] <Subsentient> prospectacle: aqu4 was written ANSI C.
[09:52:40] <Subsentient> sec
[09:53:06] <prospectacle> interesting
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[09:53:41] <MrBluze> Irc clients have scripting languages and u can use that
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[09:53:54] <Subsentient> $help
[09:53:54] <aqu4> I'm aqu4bot baking. I'm a bot written in pure C by Subsentient [http://universe2.us/]. My source code can be found at "http://github.com/Subsentient/aqu4bot/". Try the 'commands' command to get a list of what I can do, or try 'help cmd' where 'cmd' is a particular command.
[09:54:04] <prospectacle> MrBluze, I see. Are they normally the same one, or is it varied from client to client?
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[09:54:24] <arti> the languages vary from client to client
[09:54:50] <arti> xchat supports python for example, eggdrop tcl, mirc uses it's own language
[09:56:10] <prospectacle> Makes sense.
[09:56:15] <swiss> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww client languages
[09:56:17] <swiss> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[09:56:20] <Subsentient> +1
[09:56:39] <Subsentient> Real men write bots in machine code.
[09:56:42] <Subsentient> Hex editors ftw
[09:57:02] <prospectacle> if I /msg someone do I have to add the + to their name if they're a +?
[09:57:02] <MrBluze> Punch cards
[09:57:06] <swiss> Subsentient: one guess in the langauge my bot is written in. Hint, it comes on nearly every linux system, and it was probably the worst choice i could have made
[09:57:09] <stderr> arti: XChat supports more than just Python.
[09:57:10] <Subsentient> prospectacle: no
[09:57:11] <swiss> it was merely to see if I could
[09:57:22] <prospectacle> thanks
[09:57:29] <Subsentient> swiss: Perl?
[09:57:39] <swiss> Subsentient: that would have been a good choice. I wrote one in bash.
[09:57:40] <stderr> swiss: sh?
[09:57:44] <arti> stderr: i realize that
[09:57:45] <Subsentient> swiss: beheh
[09:57:52] <FoobarBazbot_> swiss: javascript
[09:57:53] <arti> stderr: where did i say only?
[09:57:55] <swiss> https://github.com
[09:58:06] <Subsentient> swiss: Writing a bot in C actually proved to be pretty easy despite what everyone imagines
[09:58:17] <swiss> uses ii (a c program to make FIFOs) for actual network communication
[09:58:37] <swiss> oh, it would have been easier to use C, but all my friends used C, perl, python, and go
[09:58:42] <swiss> and I needed to be different
[09:58:51] <prospectacle> stderr I responded re: spf record, don't know if you saw it
[09:59:11] * arti returns to haskell
[09:59:13] <stderr> arti: You didn't. But you did say it varied from client to client. It's posstble xchat supports tcl and "whatever mircs language is called".
[09:59:14] <swiss> i learned so much bash in the process
[09:59:21] <swiss> and i learned what a poor choice i made
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[09:59:29] <mtrycz> Hello Soylentils
[09:59:36] <stderr> prospectacle: I saw... and answered...
[09:59:37] <swiss> multi channel handling, live updating/upgrading... all these things were hard
[09:59:49] <swiss> being able to quit a channel, or to part/reconnect
[09:59:54] <Subsentient> swiss: My bot is very single threaded
[10:00:01] <Subsentient> So, it has obstacles of it's own
[10:00:16] <prospectacle> stderr: Sorry, I guess my program is broken. I just got a window popup that says "8" in the title, and no message
[10:00:18] <Subsentient> I avoid threads when I can get away with it, because I am rather terrible with them
[10:00:34] <swiss> ii wasn't good for that, i chose to not use it
[10:00:38] <stderr> prospectacle: Oh, you don't have voice on "that channel"... Sorry...
[10:00:45] <swiss> i used flat files for inter-thread communication
[10:00:48] <arti> stderr, that's not an actual quote of mine
[10:01:20] <swiss> golang would have been so easy to write a bot in
[10:01:27] <swiss> and i should have just done that
[10:01:34] <Subsentient> swiss: Something insidious about Go. Not sure.
[10:01:42] <arti> stderr "hi, i don't offer any constructive suggestions, just what you didn't say"
[10:01:43] <stderr> <arti> the languages vary from client to client
[10:01:43] <stderr> <arti> xchat supports python for example, eggdrop tcl, mirc uses it's own language
[10:01:47] <swiss> https://github.com
[10:01:49] <Subsentient> Oh, wait, yeah, I know. It's Google. That's good enough reason to avoid it to me.
[10:02:02] <swiss> Subsentient: what about the fact it's written by the guy who wrote B and C
[10:02:20] <Subsentient> swiss: I always thought there was something wrong with Ken.
[10:02:28] <swiss> ha ha ha
[10:02:31] <Subsentient> Really.
[10:02:33] <swiss> golang is also C compatible
[10:02:39] <Subsentient> Why not just use C?
[10:02:51] <swiss> go is nicer to program in, honestly
[10:02:53] <arti> because people are lazy
[10:03:01] <Subsentient> Dennis is a bit creepy but he's bambi next to mister 666 Lakeview Drive there
[10:03:03] <arti> take stderr quoting people
[10:03:18] <swiss> it's like getting the speed/efficiency of C with the niceity of python
[10:03:32] <swiss> also, it won't compile if you have any errors
[10:03:38] <Subsentient> swiss: You know it's evil because the types are put after the variable names.
[10:03:46] <swiss> "unused variable detected"
[10:03:56] <arti> beats javascript just making one on the fly for you
[10:04:02] <swiss> Subsentient: it also does variable type assumption
[10:04:11] <swiss> don't put the type? It'll infer it from the data
[10:04:20] <Subsentient> swiss: Dynamic typing is a tool of Bill.
[10:04:20] <swiss> dat :=
[10:04:31] <swiss> dynamic typing sounds bad
[10:04:36] <Subsentient> And it is.
[10:04:38] <swiss> inferred typing is better
[10:04:46] <swiss> because once it's been typed, it can't be changed
[10:04:58] <swiss> so it's still a strong typed language. Just a nicer compiler
[10:05:29] <Subsentient> swiss: If the typeof() operator was standardized, I'd use it, but C kept it as an extension with C11, which confuses me.
[10:05:31] <stderr> arti: To me it sounded like you said that the supported languages varied from client to client and that XChat supported python, while eggdrop supported tcl. I was just pointing out that XChat might support TCL too.
[10:05:54] <swiss> i think that's called reflection in go
[10:05:57] <arti> it's not an exhaustive list, ffs.
[10:06:00] <swiss> i don't really understand reflection
[10:06:26] <stderr> arti: I know that now, but when I replied it did sound like an exhaustive list...
[10:06:45] <arti> jesus, go back to your c++
[10:06:58] <prospectacle> is reflection where an interpreted language program is aware of its own contents (e.g. structure of functions, etc)? Because it's already been semi-compiled into a form the vm can understand and analyse
[10:07:07] <Subsentient> swiss: Anything from Google is my mortal enemy. I have no desire to touch go, even if it makes ice cream with my optical drive.
[10:07:21] * stderr looks at his nick... Nope, it's not cerr.
[10:07:21] <prospectacle> I didn't look it up just guessing based on where i've seen that word used.
[10:07:33] <swiss> Subsentient: it makes joy in your monitor
[10:07:34] * arti tosses stderr a beer
[10:07:38] <swiss> and in your fingers
[10:07:48] <FoobarBazbot> stderr: he means go back to typing
[10:07:49] * stderr shakes beer and tosses it back to arti.
[10:07:51] <FoobarBazbot> c++
[10:07:51] <Kif> karma - c: 13
[10:07:56] <swiss> and in the "ready-to-go-distributed-with-go" vim development environment
[10:08:07] * arti waits for a correction to that
[10:08:08] <Subsentient> swiss: I'm writing a string handling library for C called SubStrings. My biggest whine with C is shit-poor string handling.
[10:08:27] <arti> subsentient: try variable handling with bash, ghey too
[10:08:29] <Subsentient> It enables easier manipulation of C strings
[10:08:58] <Subsentient> It reinvents some stuff, and it's an emulated-OO library.
[10:09:05] <swiss> Subsentient: golang has nice string handling
[10:09:06] <Subsentient> You know, function pointers etc
[10:09:09] <swiss> and UTF8 support by default
[10:09:16] <Subsentient> swiss: I'm sure it does. So did Python.
[10:09:20] <swiss> COME TO THE DARK SIDE
[10:09:29] <swiss> WE HAVE COOKIES, AND WORKING PROGRAMS
[10:09:33] <Subsentient> swiss: UTF-8 is often a non-issue in C.
[10:09:39] <arti> bash: what you write something in and realize you should've written it in something else, but you're committed
[10:09:47] <swiss> arti: truestory
[10:09:49] <Subsentient> $burrito swiss
[10:09:49] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at swiss
[10:09:54] <MrBluze> And global?
[10:09:55] <swiss> lol
[10:10:01] <MrBluze> Globals
[10:10:03] <swiss> Subsentient: utf8 is a non issue until you need it
[10:10:04] * arti will have to defer to crutchy
[10:10:08] <swiss> then it's like "Well, balls"
[10:10:11] * aqu4 Suck it, in the name of C, and all that is ANSI!!!
[10:10:19] <arti> if you want explicit, stderr is your guy
[10:10:26] <FoobarBazbot> awk has nice string support. and UTF-8, if you set your LANG right.
[10:10:31] <FoobarBazbot> awk++
[10:10:32] <Kif> karma - awk: 1
[10:10:38] <swiss> i need to work more in awk
[10:10:40] <Subsentient> swiss: No, I mean I have little trouble getting UTF-8 handling in my code.
[10:10:45] <FoobarBazbot> 1? That's sad...
[10:10:50] <arti> awk++
[10:10:50] <Kif> karma - awk: 2
[10:10:53] <arti> mighty 2
[10:11:07] * arti waits for stderr warnings/notices
[10:11:09] <swiss> Subsentient: iirc i couldn't type UTF-8 into the actual string field, and i had to \x stuff
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[10:11:38] <arti> we should role play a compliation process, i know someone who can dm a good compiler
[10:11:48] <crutchy> wait, someone said globals?
[10:12:01] <Subsentient> swiss: Oh, you mean like that. GCC/clang have ways of doing that.
[10:12:09] <swiss> but see
[10:12:13] <Subsentient> Processing UTF-8 over the net etc is easy
[10:12:15] <swiss> golang doesn't have that issue
[10:12:26] <swiss> also, it keeps bad people from compiling bad code
[10:12:29] <Subsentient> swiss: I also hear it's pointer suppor tis either nonexistant or cripples
[10:12:35] <FoobarBazbot> badpeople--
[10:12:35] <Kif> karma - badpeople: -1
[10:12:49] <swiss> uhhh
[10:12:51] <swiss> not sure
[10:12:59] * swiss tries to remember if he used pointers
[10:13:06] <Subsentient> swiss: Without pointers, Go is useless to me.
[10:13:15] <Subsentient> I do lots of low level, creepy, deranged pointer tricks.
[10:13:21] <Subsentient> And I enjoy it!
[10:13:33] <arti> you're a c guy huh
[10:13:36] <swiss> oh, yeah, pointers work fine
[10:13:37] <swiss> http://www.golang-book.com
[10:13:38] <crutchy> i like dereferencing delphi style
[10:14:22] <crutchy> cos carrots are yummy
[10:14:45] * aqu4 gives crutchy a fungus covered, mushy carrot
[10:14:48] <arti> http://imgur.com
[10:15:00] <arti> ^ what dereferencing looks like
[10:15:02] <prospectacle> at the risk of being shunned for all time, i like javascript for its function references and string handling
[10:15:13] <arti> you'll pick up many bad habits from that
[10:15:16] <swiss> prospectacle: shunned
[10:15:22] <crutchy> arti: you jealous :-P
[10:15:30] <arti> you can read me like a book
[10:15:39] <aqu4> What!? JS! You're kidding!
[10:15:44] <Subsentient> Damn, JavaScript
[10:15:58] <arti> javascript, quickly becoming THE cross platform language
[10:16:05] <swiss> looking at nodejs makes me want to shoot myself
[10:16:07] <Subsentient> prospectacle: JS is a tool of the evil Cloud empire of darkness and borg cubes.
[10:16:09] <crutchy> i like js to satisfy my homosexual tendencies
[10:16:15] * Subsentient busts up
[10:16:24] <FoobarBazbot> prospectacle: s/sh.*me/flayed while living and screaming/
[10:16:24] <SedBot> <FoobarBazbot> <prospectacle> at the risk of being flayed while living and screaming, i like javascript for its function references and string handling
[10:16:38] <prospectacle> lol, well I had a good run
[10:16:41] * swiss prepares the whip
[10:16:49] * Subsentient prepares the boiling peanut butter
[10:16:54] <swiss> nodejs is just the new RoR
[10:17:04] <arti> nodejs is pretty cool for some things
[10:17:06] <swiss> and the advocates are just as bad
[10:17:09] * Titanium prefers java without using the web
[10:17:10] <crutchy> alert('js is awesome');
[10:17:10] <arti> bower, grunt
[10:17:27] <swiss> Titanium: Ahhhhh, a java fan too?
[10:17:30] <prospectacle> Is titanium trolling?
[10:17:34] <Titanium> no
[10:17:35] <swiss> WHERE IS ALL THIS TERRIBLENESS COMING FROM
[10:17:47] <Titanium> java is awesome for client side applications :)
[10:17:47] <arti> Titanium -> http://www.appcelerator.com
[10:17:48] <crutchy> it could be worse
[10:17:57] <stderr> Is this the right time to say that I have written a javascript library? :-)
[10:18:04] <crutchy> we could be talking about how awesome vb is
[10:18:14] <stderr> crutchy: Not for very long...
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[10:18:20] <prospectacle> Titanium, i mean in context I thought maybe you were trying to make me go "js is not java, completely different, etc, etc, I'm a big nerd who has to point out facts"
[10:18:26] <Titanium> vm is awesome becasue you can inline assembly
[10:18:36] <Subsentient> Node.js, RoR, etc, all make me SICK. It reminds me of Candy Crush, Cloud, Tablets, and unskilled, high level devs.
[10:18:39] <FoobarBazbot> stderr, yes, it's an excellent time. Saves us trouble getting these implements out again later.
[10:18:39] <arti> c is awesome because inline assembly
[10:18:47] <mtrycz> Vbasic is a good language, if you jnow what to yse it for.
[10:18:49] <Titanium> oh, no i usually assume things like that to my peril
[10:18:51] <arti> candy crush, that game that pulls in 600k a day?
[10:18:53] * Subsentient pukes on arti
[10:19:02] <stderr> FoobarBazbot: http://tzdata-javascript.org
[10:19:04] <crutchy> delphi has inline assembly, but delphi is so awesome that it's not required :-P
[10:19:13] <Titanium> verilog is the best
[10:19:16] <arti> crutchy: awesome describes the .exe size
[10:19:19] <Titanium> but you cant inline assembly
[10:19:21] <crutchy> lol
[10:19:27] <Subsentient> Do not mention inline ASM to me arti. I just spent a month battling to keep CMOV out of my homebrew distro.
[10:19:40] <crutchy> only if you "use forms;"
[10:19:44] <arti> homobrew*
[10:20:04] <arti> i'll stick to my high level langs tyvm
[10:20:06] <Subsentient> $burrito arti
[10:20:06] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at arti
[10:20:14] <Subsentient> I have burritos and I'm not afraid to use them.
[10:20:18] <crutchy> vcl it is then arti :-P
[10:20:19] * arti dodges and summons kangahump
[10:20:46] <crutchy> maybe that should be our soylent mascot
[10:20:49] <arti> crutchy: what's ridiculous is the size of qt binaries
[10:20:59] <crutchy> i don't do qt
[10:21:13] <crutchy> or any other gnomenclature
[10:21:21] <Subsentient> $blacklist set *!*@76.91.rir.gzz
[10:21:21] <aqu4> Blacklisting successful.
[10:21:22] <arti> you're confusing gtk :P
[10:21:46] <Subsentient> <3 GTK2
[10:22:05] <crutchy> i only ever see qt in debian repos
[10:22:46] <crutchy> i'm not a real programmer... i just tinker with my global :-P
[10:22:51] <Subsentient> What's the oldest functional machines you guys still use?
[10:22:58] * Subsentient is curious how wasteful all of you are
[10:23:02] <arti> i think i've got a iphone 3gs somewhere...
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[10:23:11] <Subsentient> $burrito arti
[10:23:12] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at arti
[10:23:13] <crutchy> a shovel
[10:23:19] <arti> lol
[10:23:22] <Subsentient> $burrito crutchy
[10:23:22] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at crutchy
[10:23:40] <arti> at least it's not a trout slap
[10:23:44] <FoobarBazbot> stderr: cool
[10:23:53] <stderr> Thanks.
[10:23:54] <arti> stderr: what does your library do?
[10:23:55] <swiss> Titanium: hate java on anything but mainframes
[10:24:01] <swiss> maybe old sun systems would be okay too
[10:24:04] <Subsentient> $memsg slaps arti around a bit with a large trout
[10:24:05] <aqu4> Ok.
[10:24:12] <crutchy> prolly reads books
[10:24:13] <Subsentient> $memsg #Soylent slaps arti around a bit with a large trout
[10:24:13] <aqu4> Ok.
[10:24:14] * aqu4 slaps arti around a bit with a large trout
[10:24:23] <swiss> $wat
[10:24:27] <swiss> $dongs
[10:24:35] <Subsentient> $burrito swiss
[10:24:35] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at swiss
[10:24:36] <arti> oh, i've got a sun ultra spark
[10:24:59] <swiss> i managed to ditch my sparc on the most recent girl who was like "I wanna learn computers!" on me
[10:25:11] <swiss> i was like "Come back when you've figured out how to communicate with this machine"
[10:25:18] <FoobarBazbot> oldest machine... I guess either a Sony-Ericsson k790/k800 phone, or... no, that's about it that I "still use".
[10:25:22] <Subsentient> swiss: We are geeks, girls are something we hear about in folklore.
[10:25:23] <arti> like communicate with you, or just with it?
[10:25:27] <crutchy> that's one lucky sparc
[10:25:38] <swiss> crutchy: last i checked it's being used as a bookend
[10:25:52] * aqu4 drops a swarm of undead gerbils on FoobarBazbot
[10:25:54] <arti> those are some big books
[10:25:56] <swiss> she didn't even figure out that she needed that special kind of serial cable
[10:26:06] <FoobarBazbot> There's an old kaypro upstairs, I believe I'm the last one to fire it up, but, that's some months back.
[10:26:06] <swiss> it was one of those square flatish ones
[10:26:18] <stderr> swiss: N00B! You're better off without her.
[10:26:22] <stderr> :-)
[10:26:25] <swiss> http://www.obsolyte.com like this
[10:26:27] * Subsentient notes that CELL PHONES DO NOT COUNT AS A MACHINE.
[10:26:34] <swiss> stderr: wasn't a girlfriend, or one i wanted to make into one
[10:26:44] <swiss> she was just bugging me enough, and it was 2 birds with one stone
[10:26:46] <crutchy> as long as she knows how to plug the hard drive into the motherboard
[10:26:47] <arti> swiss, mines an ultra 5
[10:27:01] <FoobarBazbot> IDK why not, it's got a JVM.
[10:27:06] <Subsentient> $burrito crutchy
[10:27:06] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at crutchy
[10:27:30] <swiss> what was the kind of cable.... null modem cable?
[10:27:34] <FoobarBazbot> Subsentient: you know what the M in JVM stands for?
[10:27:45] <Subsentient> FoobarBazbot: Mother, as in your mother.
[10:27:48] <crutchy> moron
[10:28:01] <crutchy> java very moron
[10:28:15] <Subsentient> ++crutchy
[10:28:25] <Subsentient> crutchy++
[10:28:25] <Kif> karma - crutchy: 33
[10:28:40] <Subsentient> Your bot needs to learn prefix incrementation.
[10:29:09] <FoobarBazbot> But if it did that, wouldn't postfix have to show the old total?
[10:29:15] <prospectacle> Subsentient *= crutchy
[10:29:22] <Subsentient> FoobarBazbot: yes.
[10:29:26] <swiss> Subsentient := crutchy
[10:29:50] <FoobarBazbot> That would be pretty good. Confuse the hell out of non-coders.
[10:29:55] <Subsentient> swiss = (void*)&SwissMom.Mom
[10:30:02] <crutchy> crutchy := legend
[10:30:09] <swiss> STOP STICKING YOUR POINTERS IN MY MOTHER
[10:30:23] * Subsentient busts up
[10:30:41] <crutchy> mother[0] := ^swiss;
[10:30:58] <swiss> well, at least crutchy puts my mother first
[10:31:04] <arti> haha
[10:31:12] <arti> swiss++
[10:31:12] <Kif> karma - swiss: 5
[10:31:28] <Subsentient> swiss->SwissMom.Mom = swiss->Ptr;
[10:31:32] <crutchy> where would we be without mothers?
[10:31:34] <FoobarBazbot> crutchy's mom is global.
[10:31:46] <crutchy> we would be inside our fathers
[10:31:53] <stderr> Mmm... Macros...
[10:31:57] <stderr> #define foreach(bit,bitfield) bit=0; while(bit=(((bitfield&(bit?~(bit|(bit-1)):-1))^((bitfield&(bit?~(bit|(bit-1)):-1))-1))&(bitfield&(bit?~(bit|(bit-1)):-1))))
[10:32:02] <swiss> stderr: that looks like incest
[10:32:09] <swiss> er
[10:32:11] <swiss> Subsentient: ^
[10:33:12] <arti> just a bit overboard
[10:33:25] <swiss> :(){ :|:& };:
[10:33:25] <prospectacle> #define if printf
[10:33:30] <crutchy> yeah i kinda just imagined a syntax error in all that
[10:33:35] <Subsentient> $burrito Subsentient for creating a really awful conversation
[10:33:35] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Subsentient for creating a really awful conversation
[10:34:02] <swiss> $burrito Subsentient for writing a bot that has such terrible jokes
[10:34:02] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Subsentient for writing a bot that has such terrible jokes
[10:34:20] <Subsentient> $burrito swiss for liking Go and the Google empire of Borg.
[10:34:21] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at swiss for liking Go and the Google empire of Borg.
[10:34:32] <arti> google has awesome long term support
[10:34:38] <crutchy> aqu4: s/a bot that has such terrible jokes/an insult in oop/
[10:34:41] <arti> how could you not lov ethem
[10:34:42] <Subsentient> Also, awesome borg implants.
[10:34:47] <swiss> Subsentient: i also used google earth at work, and plan to use Dart as soon as I find a use case
[10:35:01] <Subsentient> swiss: REPENT
[10:35:05] <swiss> oh, and I use git on a regular basis
[10:35:10] * Subsentient likes git
[10:35:19] * swiss points out git is a google product
[10:35:19] <crutchy> i use git to confuse myself
[10:35:29] <swiss> crutchy: you played the git game?
[10:35:33] * Subsentient points out git was created by Linus Torvalds
[10:35:46] <swiss> crutchy: http://pcottle.github.io
[10:35:49] <crutchy> swiss: trying to figure out how it works?
[10:35:49] <swiss> Subsentient: with google
[10:36:30] <Subsentient> swiss: Nobody's perfect
[10:37:00] <Subsentient> Whatever you do, do NOT learn how to use the $guessinggame command!
[10:37:11] <swiss> $guessinggame this command is dumb
[10:37:11] <aqu4> swiss: Nope, "this command is dumb" is not the number I'm thinking of.
[10:37:14] <Subsentient> Especially multiple users at once.
[10:37:16] <arti> lol
[10:37:17] <swiss> hue
[10:37:26] <Subsentient> $guesinggame 7
[10:37:29] <swiss> crutchy: have fun not sleeping
[10:37:33] <Subsentient> $guessinggame 7
[10:37:33] <aqu4> Subsentient: That's right, I was thinking of 7!
[10:37:36] <Subsentient> $guessinggame 9
[10:37:37] <aqu4> Subsentient: Nope, "9" is not the number I'm thinking of.
[10:37:37] <arti> should be notices
[10:37:38] <swiss> $guessinggame Subsentient can't spell
[10:37:38] <aqu4> swiss: Nope, "Subsentient can't spell" is not the number I'm thinking of.
[10:37:47] <crutchy> a bookmarked it just before i closed it
[10:37:50] <Subsentient> $tell swiss I farted and it smelled like cheese
[10:37:50] <aqu4> I'll tell 'em next time I see 'em.
[10:37:52] <crutchy> s/a/i/
[10:37:52] <SedBot> <crutchy> i bookmarked it just before i closed it
[10:38:08] <prospectacle> $guessinggame 37
[10:38:08] <aqu4> prospectacle: Nope, "37" is not the number I'm thinking of.
[10:38:18] <Subsentient> $help guessinggame
[10:38:18] <aqu4> [$guessinggame <required_arg(s)>]: A simple number-guessing game where you guess from one to ten. The first guess starts the game.
[10:38:37] <crutchy> $guessinggame $quit
[10:38:37] <aqu4> crutchy: Nope, "$quit" is not the number I'm thinking of.
[10:39:00] <prospectacle> $guessinggame ""
[10:39:00] <aqu4> prospectacle: Nope, """" is not the number I'm thinking of.
[10:39:20] <prospectacle> $guessinggame the number I'm thinking of
[10:39:20] <aqu4> prospectacle: Nope, "the number I'm thinking of" is not the number I'm thinking of.
[10:39:38] <Subsentient> prospectacle: Cool thing about C is, that kind of sanitization is usually unnecessary.
[10:39:39] <crutchy> ]$guessinggame Robert'); DROP TABLE Students;--
[10:39:43] <stderr> I know an even worse guessing game... The number you have to guess is between 0 and 1...
[10:39:49] <crutchy> $guessinggame Robert'); DROP TABLE Students;--
[10:39:49] <aqu4> crutchy: Nope, "Robert'); DROP TABLE Students;--" is not the number I'm thinking of.
[10:39:51] <swiss> $quit
[10:39:52] <aqu4> You aren't authorized to tell me to do that.
[10:39:55] <Subsentient> Little Bobby Tables we call him.
[10:39:59] <swiss> $exit
[10:40:06] <swiss> $admin swiss
[10:40:06] <aqu4> You must be one of my owners to use that command.
[10:40:09] <Subsentient> $whoami
[10:40:09] <aqu4> You are Subsentient!~WhiteRat@216.161.ghn.ql, and you are an admin, and an owner.
[10:40:18] <swiss> oh man, i totally guessed at least one command
[10:40:22] <swiss> i didn't look at your code
[10:40:26] <Subsentient> swiss: $commands?
[10:41:14] <Subsentient> $blacklist list
[10:41:14] <aqu4> 1 blacklisted vhosts found:
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[10:41:15] <aqu4> [1] *!*@76.91.rir.gzz
[10:41:16] <aqu4> End of blacklist list.
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[10:41:31] <crutchy> $evasive-pattern-delta
[10:41:48] <prospectacle> $whatothergamesdoyouhave
[10:41:52] <Subsentient> $commands
[10:41:52] <aqu4> Commands with 1 star = admins only, 2 stars = owners only. Commands available:
[10:41:53] <aqu4> burrito, beer, wz, guessinggame, sr, time, seen, tell, sticky, whoami, msg8*, memsg8*, noticemsg8*, chanctl8*, join8*, part8*, listchannels8*, nickchange4**, admin4**, blacklist8*, netwrite4**, quit4**, restart4**, help, commands
[10:42:15] <crutchy> $sticky "you require more lesbian gas"
[10:42:15] <aqu4> Bad sticky sub-command.
[10:42:31] <Subsentient> $help sticky
[10:42:31] <aqu4> [$sticky <required_arg(s)>]: Used to save a sticky note. sticky save saves it, sticky read <number> reads it, sticky delete <number> deletes it, but only if it's your sticky. For admins, sticky reset deletes all stickies.
[10:43:26] <Subsentient> $sticky save swiss smells weird
[10:43:27] <aqu4> Sticky saved. It's sticky ID is "3".
[10:43:27] <crutchy> $sticky save $whoami
[10:43:27] <aqu4> Sticky saved. It's sticky ID is "4".
[10:43:29] <stderr> Since nobody wants to play my guessing game, I'm going back to coding... See you...
[10:43:34] <Subsentient> $sticky delete 4
[10:43:34] <aqu4> Sticky deleted.
[10:43:58] <Subsentient> $sticky read 3
[10:43:58] <aqu4> Created by "Subsentient" at 03/13/2014 09:42:08 UTC: swiss smells weird
[10:44:08] <crutchy> $sticky save ';die();
[10:44:08] <aqu4> Sticky saved. It's sticky ID is "4".
[10:44:12] <Subsentient> $sticky delete 4
[10:44:12] <aqu4> Sticky deleted.
[10:45:02] <stderr> Someones clock is off...
[10:45:14] <Subsentient> $time lt12
[10:45:14] <aqu4> Current time: Thu 2014-03-13 02:43:55 AM local time
[10:45:27] <stderr> [10:45:14] <aqu4> Current time: Thu 2014-03-13 02:43:55 AM local time
[10:45:30] <Subsentient> $time utc12
[10:45:30] <aqu4> Current time: Thu 2014-03-13 09:44:11 AM UTC
[10:47:56] <Subsentient> stderr: yeah this eMac G4 has a bad clock.
[10:48:07] <Subsentient> It runs slow and I constantly am trying to keep it in sync with ntp.
[10:48:12] <crutchy> $time ";exec("sudo shutdown");
[10:48:12] <aqu4> Bad argument to time command.
[10:48:28] * stderr mumbles something about NTP and goes back to the coding...
[10:48:28] <Subsentient> crutchy: Not possible. aqu4 is written in C.
[10:48:54] <prospectacle> oh in that case
[10:48:56] <Titanium> didnt ya hear... NTP is insecure
[10:49:00] <prospectacle> $time \0
[10:49:01] <aqu4> Bad argument to time command.
[10:49:02] <crutchy> thanks :-)
[10:49:03] <prospectacle> lol
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[10:49:04] <crutchy> lol
[10:49:05] * Subsentient could give a shit less
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[10:49:28] <crutchy> we're just quality testing :-P
[10:49:50] <crutchy> well i suck at it but others could do a better job
[10:49:51] <stderr> $time TZ=Europe/Copenhagen
[10:49:51] <aqu4> Bad argument to time command.
[10:49:58] <stderr> $time Europe/Copenhagen
[10:49:58] <aqu4> Bad argument to time command.
[10:50:01] <stderr> $time Copenhagen
[10:50:01] <aqu4> Bad argument to time command.
[10:50:03] <stderr> $time CET
[10:50:03] <aqu4> Bad argument to time command.
[10:50:07] <stderr> Ah, fuck it!
[10:50:08] <Subsentient> $help time
[10:50:08] <aqu4> [$time <optional_arg(s)>]: Displays the current time in either utc24, utc12, lt12, or lt24 times. Default is utc24.
[10:50:37] <stderr> No strftime() either?
[10:50:47] <Subsentient> stderr: I think I do use that.
[10:50:52] <prospectacle> $time please my good robot sir
[10:50:52] <aqu4> Bad argument to time command.
[10:50:57] <Subsentient> Some places in other code I did not.
[10:51:05] <Subsentient> But I think aqu4 uses strftime()
[10:51:06] <crutchy> $time ';system("sudo shutdown");
[10:51:07] <aqu4> Bad argument to time command.
[10:51:10] <Kif> [SoylentNews] - Laser Pointing at Aircraft Increasing - http://sylnt.us - lives-could-be-at-stake
[10:51:15] <stderr> Subsentient: I meant a user-supplied format string...
[10:51:36] <Subsentient> stderr: That's a security risk, albeit a small one
[10:51:40] <Subsentient> I might add it
[10:51:50] <swiss> when did it become 3 am
[10:51:54] <swiss> i have to wake up in 5 hours
[10:51:56] <swiss> ;_;
[10:52:35] FoobarBazbot is now known as FoobarBazbot|afk
[10:52:37] <FoobarBazbot_> night
[10:52:38] <crutchy> kif: s/Increasing/Annoying/
[10:52:42] <stderr> Subsentient: If you can make it support $TZ and a user supplied format string, that would be nice... lt12 and lt24 seems a bit useless to me.
[10:52:54] <crutchy> Kif: s/Increasing/Annoying/
[10:52:54] <SedBot> <crutchy> <Kif> [SoylentNews] - Laser Pointing at Aircraft Annoying - http://sylnt.us - lives-could-be-at-stake
[10:53:06] <Subsentient> stderr: I did not find need to add much thought to the time command.
[10:53:09] <prospectacle> oh that's right there's a soylent website too
[10:53:14] <Subsentient> Was more a trinket on the bookshelf imho
[10:53:38] <crutchy> Kif: s/Increasing/Found To Cause Tumors/
[10:53:38] <swiss> oh man, SedBot now modfies others?
[10:53:38] <SedBot> <crutchy> <Kif> [SoylentNews] - Laser Pointing at Aircraft Found To Cause Tumors - http://sylnt.us - lives-could-be-at-stake
[10:53:44] <Subsentient> anyways I am off
[10:53:48] <swiss> crutchy: s/./dongs/g
[10:53:49] <SedBot> <swiss> <crutchy> dongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongsdongs
[10:53:49] <stderr> Subsentient: Yeah, it's probably not so useful anyway, if the system clock is off...
[10:53:54] <Subsentient> want me to leave aqu4 running?
[10:54:04] <Subsentient> Well freenode uses another server for it's copy of aqu4
[10:54:07] <Subsentient> and that one is in sync
[10:54:38] <Subsentient> And always running
[10:54:55] <crutchy> Kif: s/Laser//
[10:54:55] <SedBot> <crutchy> <Kif> [SoylentNews] - Pointing at Aircraft Increasing - http://sylnt.us - lives-could-be-at-stake
[10:55:17] <stderr> Subsentient: I don't know...
[10:55:31] * stderr goes back to coding... FOR REAL this time...
[10:55:42] <crutchy> yeah me too
[10:55:57] <crutchy> Kif: s/Laser/"Lasers"/
[10:55:57] <SedBot> <crutchy> <Kif> [SoylentNews] - "Lasers" Pointing at Aircraft Increasing - http://sylnt.us - lives-could-be-at-stake
[10:56:08] <Subsentient> s/dongs/hurr derp derp /
[10:56:12] <Subsentient> Kif: s/dongs/hurr derp derp /
[10:56:15] <Subsentient> ...
[10:56:27] <Subsentient> Kif: s/dongs/hurr derp derp /
[10:56:28] <Subsentient> Kif: s/dongs/hurr derp derp /
[10:56:28] <Subsentient> Kif: s/dongs/hurr derp derp /
[10:56:28] <Subsentient> Kif: s/dongs/hurr derp derp /
[10:56:53] <Subsentient> derp
[10:56:55] <Subsentient> night all
[10:57:04] <crutchy> Subsentient: s/all//
[10:57:04] <SedBot> <crutchy> <Subsentient> night
[10:57:06] <prospectacle> Kif: s/Aircraft/whiteboards
[10:57:21] <Subsentient> $quit
[10:57:22] <aqu4> See you around.
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[10:58:08] <crutchy> prospectacle: s/whiteboards\//
[10:58:28] <crutchy> prospectacle: s/whiteboards/whiteboards\//
[10:58:28] <SedBot> <crutchy> <prospectacle> s/Aircraft/whiteboards/
[10:59:12] <crutchy> s/\//\\\\\\///\/\\\
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[11:01:39] <prospectacle> Kif: s/Aircraft/whiteboards/
[11:01:39] <SedBot> <prospectacle> <Kif> [SoylentNews] - Laser Pointing at whiteboards Increasing - http://sylnt.us - lives-could-be-at-stake
[11:02:31] <MrBluze_> i wonder if the editors rtfa before allowing it to go live
[11:03:05] <MrBluze_> not wrt latest post, but the homeopathy one
[11:03:45] <prospectacle> Yeah it was on the other place (or was it some other place) a couple weeks ago
[11:04:01] <prospectacle> still, reading takes time
[11:04:21] <MrBluze_> reading does take time
[11:04:31] <MrBluze_> maybe they need more editors
[11:05:50] <prospectacle> I guess so. As always, best part is the comments anyway. Bad article often equals insightful comments of why article is bad, as long as people are respectful.
[11:07:21] <prospectacle> can you please help me test /msg I had a weird thing happen before when I tried it on web client
[11:07:55] <MrBluze_> yes true
[11:08:05] <MrBluze_> there
[11:08:13] <prospectacle> it's broken.
[11:08:21] <MrBluze_> ouch
[11:08:23] <MrBluze_> broken testes
[11:08:25] <prospectacle> All i get is a room window titled "8" with no message in it
[11:09:05] <prospectacle> I guess it's the irc client problem I'll see what version and if there's an update available and tell someone.
[11:10:34] <prospectacle> Thanks for your help
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[11:10:53] <MrBluze_> oh hmm
[11:10:57] <MrBluze_> what r u using?
[11:11:15] <MrBluze_> i had no trouble with the SN webchat
[11:12:23] <prospectacle> oh
[11:12:29] <prospectacle> Just webchat on ff
[11:12:34] <prospectacle> I must be broken
[11:12:39] <prospectacle> do I need to register an account or something?
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[11:23:23] <MrBluze> chattus interruptus grr
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[11:26:02] <Subsentient> Too restless to actually sleep.
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[11:26:49] <prospectacle> Subsentient: Guaranteed recipe for countering restless-based-insomnia:
[11:27:27] <prospectacle> while (awake) {read(minutes(10)); close_eyes(minutes(10);}
[11:27:46] <prospectacle> Puts the mind on a straight track, and alternately quiets it as well.
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[11:32:20] <Subsentient> $tell prospectacle Derp
[11:32:20] <aqu4> I'll tell 'em next time I see 'em.
[11:32:58] <prospectacle> well it works but i guess it can take an hour
[11:33:20] <prospectacle> my private messaging doesn't work, something about web client
[11:33:35] <prospectacle> it shows up a funny thing, but no msg.
[11:33:37] <prospectacle> Whoever it was
[11:34:53] <Subsentient> heh
[11:37:20] <prospectacle> oh i see it now. It appears in my status window. i'm dumb
[11:37:32] <prospectacle> it also pops up a new "room" window that says "8" is that normal?
[11:37:48] <Subsentient> depends on the client
[11:37:55] <Subsentient> I use xchat so I cannot say
[11:37:58] <prospectacle> web client qwebric or whatever it's called.
[11:37:59] <prospectacle> oh ok
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[11:55:47] <prospectacle> this is a chatroom
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[11:56:42] <prospectacle> just testing, don't mind me
[11:56:50] <Titanium> no, this is not a chatroom
[11:57:26] <prospectacle> Titanium: s/chatroom/walrus/
[11:57:26] <SedBot> <prospectacle> <Titanium> no, this is not a walrus
[11:58:30] <Titanium> SedBot: s/Titanium/prospectacle
[11:58:34] <Titanium> SedBot: s/Titanium/prospectacle/
[11:58:34] <SedBot> <Titanium> <SedBot> <prospectacle> <prospectacle> no, this is not a walrus
[11:58:47] <Titanium> test
[11:59:24] <Titanium> s/.*/hi/
[11:59:24] <SedBot> <Titanium> hi
[11:59:31] <Titanium> test
[11:59:44] <Titanium> s#test#hi
[11:59:51] <Titanium> test
[11:59:57] <prospectacle> s/test/titanium
[11:59:58] * SedBot tosses a / to pryspectocle
[12:00:04] <prospectacle> s/test/titanium/
[12:00:04] <SedBot> <praspactecle> just titaniuming, don't mind me
[12:00:04] <Titanium> s/test/\x29/
[12:00:04] <SedBot> <Titanium> x29
[12:00:23] <prospectacle> oh i see
[12:00:30] <Titanium> i want it to sed itsself :(
[12:00:37] <prospectacle> Titanium s/s/t/
[12:00:43] <prospectacle> Titanium: s/s/t/
[12:00:43] <SedBot> <prospectacle> <Titanium> i want it to ted itsself :(
[12:00:50] <prospectacle> Titanium: s/s/t/g
[12:00:50] <SedBot> <prospectacle> <Titanium> i want it to ted itttelf :(
[12:00:50] <Titanium> test
[12:01:02] <Titanium> <prospectacle> <Titanium> s/test/blah/
[12:01:07] <Titanium> :(
[12:02:06] <Titanium> are there any other bots we can potentially make sedbot friends with?
[12:02:11] <hka> there is a channel named #test
[12:02:16] <Titanium> thanks
[12:03:07] <prospectacle> ok
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[12:10:18] <Subsentient> aqu4: s/#test/#gerbils/
[12:10:24] * Subsentient snarls
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[12:16:43] <Titanium> test
[12:16:44] <Titanium> s/.*/s\/test\/blah/
[12:16:44] <SedBot> <Titanium> s/test/blah
[12:16:48] <Titanium> :(
[12:16:57] <Titanium> test
[12:17:00] <Titanium> s/.*/s\/test\/blah\//
[12:17:00] <SedBot> <Titanium> s/test/blah/
[12:17:05] <Subsentient> $burrito Titanium
[12:17:05] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Titanium
[12:17:44] <Subsentient> $blacklist list
[12:17:45] <aqu4> 1 blacklisted vhosts found:
[12:17:45] <aqu4> [1] *!*@76.91.rir.gzz
[12:17:46] <aqu4> End of blacklist list.
[12:17:56] <Subsentient> $blacklist unset *!*@76.91.rir.gzz
[12:17:56] <aqu4> Unblacklisting successful.
[12:18:56] <Subsentient> $commands
[12:18:57] <aqu4> Commands with 1 star = admins only, 2 stars = owners only. Commands available:
[12:18:57] <aqu4> burrito, beer, wz, guessinggame, sr, time, seen, tell, sticky, whoami, msg8*, memsg8*, noticemsg8*, chanctl8*, join8*, part8*, listchannels8*, nickchange4**, admin4**, blacklist8*, netwrite4**, quit4**, restart4**, help, commands
[12:19:06] <Titanium> SedBot: s/.*/s\/test\/blah\//
[12:19:06] <SedBot> <Titanium> <SedBot> s/test/blah/
[12:19:23] <aqu4> blah
[12:19:32] <Titanium> s/.*/blahhh/
[12:19:32] <SedBot> <Titanium> blahhh
[12:19:43] <aqu4> blahhhhhhhhhh
[12:19:47] <Titanium> only 3 h
[12:19:50] <Titanium> fun map
[12:19:54] <aqu4> blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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[12:26:06] <MrBluze> gnite ppl
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[12:30:28] <Kif> [SoylentNews] - Wall Street Embraces Bitcoin - http://sylnt.us - and-the-plot-thickens
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[13:35:33] <weeds> :coffee:
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[13:57:35] <weeds> "good morning" mattie. What time zone are you in?
[13:59:26] <mattie_p> mountain time
[13:59:40] <mattie_p> I live in the legal weed capital of the world, weeds
[14:02:04] <weeds> Spoice!
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[14:03:10] <weeds> That didn't last long...
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[14:14:30] <hka> damn, read on ars about NSA's "turbulence system"
[14:14:49] <hka> haven't thought about the kind of mitm attacks they are able to execute before..
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[14:20:04] <weeds> I eally can't stand that ars page layout. It makes me dizzy
[14:24:01] <weeds> hka>: I read the article, wow
[14:25:53] <hka> weeds: I thought I had stopped being surprised by the things Snowden releases, but damn...
[14:27:00] <weeds> hka: damn!
[14:27:46] <weeds> Just in case you didn't realize it before - everything you do on any network is in the open.
[14:28:30] <hka> correction, everything you do on any computer is open
[14:28:44] <hka> they can inject whatever they want when you install patches
[14:29:14] <dx3bydt3> NSA=cylons no networked computers allowed.
[14:29:36] <weeds> bluetooth too
[14:30:06] <hka> skynet:P
[14:30:16] <weeds> :P
[14:30:50] <ArhcAngel> When Microsoft got NT certified for red level security there was an asterisk by the cert *Security guaranteed as long as unit is not connected to a network source
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[14:42:45] <stderr> mattie_p: You know what I'm going to yell... :-)
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[16:01:17] <weeds> customers....
[16:07:27] <qlaras> ...the purpose, and bane of our jobs existence.
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[16:31:12] <sea> weeds: First I was afraid..that I'd lose my mind..
[16:31:37] <toomanynicknames> [SoylentNews] - $300 FLAC Player Kickstarts Past $2 Million - http://sylnt.us - digital-revolution-blues
[16:31:47] <sea> weeds: The phone would ring, I'd do my thing and get maligned..
[16:32:29] <sea> weeds: but then I spent so many months, helping users dial-out, I'm filled with doubt, 'bout my ability not to shout, at users who...Can hardly think! I showed them how to click on things..and even plled them from the brink. I should have known they'd never learn, and realized they wouldn't see
[16:32:47] <sea> weeds: If I'd have known for just one second, they'd be back to bother me!
[16:32:48] <sea> (chorus)
[16:32:53] <sea> weeds: So here I go!
[16:33:06] <sea> weeds: Put them on hold! Just take a nap now...I'm sure they'll wait until they're old!
[16:33:29] <sea> Anyways, no more. (Tech Support Lament, to the tune of I will Survive, from the Spammer's Paradise filk album)
[16:33:50] <weeds> sea: haha http://www.fecyk.ca
[16:33:58] <sea> There you go. :)
[16:34:45] <sea> My personal favorite is always Satan C Compiler.
[16:37:19] <n1> busy in here..
[16:37:20] <weeds> "Not even LINT could erase!"
[16:40:13] <sea> I don't understand how I lose pens so easily
[16:41:24] * sea considers the possibility of an extra-dimensional pen-eating pocket-dwelling fiend.
[16:43:35] <weeds> like my .5 mech pencils - always disappearing
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[17:25:57] <NCommander> you know, I'm starting to like li694-22 as a potential site name
[17:29:24] <drcoolbp> hehehe
[17:34:32] <NCommander> drcoolbp, do we want to add it as an official option?
[17:36:03] <drcoolbp> nah
[17:36:03] * mattie_p notes that li694-22.org is already directed at the site
[17:36:30] <drcoolbp> it's a little *too* geeky
[17:36:45] <n1> yeah, Soylentnews was too memorable
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[17:39:16] <everdred> That as a name seems to follow in the 'cryptic url' footsteps of that other site.
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[17:39:42] <everdred> (Not that there's anything wrong with that)
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[17:41:12] <NezSez> doobie doob mah litt'l droogs
[17:42:43] <NCommander> when we make slash work properly with relative URLs, life will be better
[17:43:19] <NezSez> hola NC, hope you actually got some rest
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[17:45:45] <NCommander> 64 bytes from 4.2.2.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=9135 ms
[17:45:46] <NCommander> Wow
[17:45:46] <NCommander> LAG
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[17:47:51] <NCommander> I'm "ok"
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[17:49:02] <cow> moooo!
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[18:06:15] <quitte> could someone explain the poutine meme?
[18:07:53] <Cyprus> i'd rather see hk47
[18:10:58] <everdred> It's a delightful Canadian delicacy. The cheese curd ties it all together, quite literally.
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[18:12:19] <quitte> and how does that related to the poutine-- meme?
[18:13:28] <dx3bydt3> The poutine in this channel is an acquired taste.
[18:14:57] <quitte> acquired distaste, rather?
[18:18:01] <NezSez> LOL
[18:18:03] <n1> the poutine in this channel is ok
[18:18:15] <n1> as long as you like the taste of just bitterness
[18:20:19] <NezSez> soybittergourd
[18:27:24] <dx3bydt3> Bitterness is better in beer than IRC.
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[19:44:59] <xyzzyyzzyx> Bacon++
[19:45:00] <toomanynicknames> karma - bacon: 163
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[20:02:20] <toomanynicknames> [SoylentNews] - Discovery of Long-Forgotten WW1 Trenches in UK - http://sylnt.us - its-a-long-way-to-Tipperary
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[20:55:51] <MrBluze|zzz> bacon++
[20:55:51] <toomanynicknames> karma - bacon: 164
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[21:41:39] <baaaacon> [SoylentNews] - Video Is Closest to Experiencing Warp Drive - http://sylnt.us - full-speed-ahead-Mr-Sulu
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[21:50:28] <weeds> Good evening
[21:51:19] <SoyCow7363> Hola
[21:59:05] <ancientt_afk> wow. Must be a good day.
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[22:00:08] <ancientt> no chatter probably means everything is working as well as can be hoped and the level of disgruntlement is no higher than normal.
[22:00:36] <baaaacon> [ksuhku] :)
[22:01:14] <weeds> and no instigator (yesterday)
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[22:03:48] <SoyCow7363> The new posts seem to have gone from once an hour to twice a day. Lack of submissions?
[22:05:22] <ancientt> *bleh* still red. Oh well. 10+ stories I haven't read yet
[22:05:46] <SoyCow7363> Whats red?
[22:06:55] <ancientt> basic color theme of soylentnews is red.
[22:07:23] <ancientt> Which is one of the decisions I don't care for. I can tolerate it but I can't like it.
[22:07:28] <ancientt> Still, low priority.
[22:07:45] <ancientt> I just keep hoping to visit and see a different color.
[22:07:55] <SoyCow7363> Oh. Can't tell (r/g colorblind).
[22:07:58] <SoyCow7363> I vote red or green!
[22:08:03] <SoyCow7363> Its all the same to me.
[22:08:51] <ancientt> Turquise made a decent showing at one point
[22:09:31] <SoyCow7363> That would work. Its not like it has to look pretty or anything. Content > format
[22:09:44] <ancientt> hear here
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[22:20:10] <SoyCow7363> Maybe in honor of 25 year old WWW they could do a classic design. B&W text with blue links and everything.
[22:20:17] <SoyCow7363> Call it "optimized for mobile" or something.
[22:21:04] <ancientt> ow. made my imaginary eyes hurt
[22:21:11] <SoyCow7363> Haha yeah
[22:22:12] <SoyCow7363> Just put "retro" in the name and you will appeal to the hipster crowd.
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[22:33:39] <Khyber> Fuck them other niggaz 'cause I'm down for my niggaz. Fuck them other niggaz 'cause I'm down for my niggaz. Fuck them other niggaz I'll ride for my niggaz, I'll die for my niggaz man, fuck them other niggaz, nigga!
[22:34:51] <SoyCow7363> Well.
[22:34:55] <SoyCow7363> There we go then.
[22:35:33] <mattie_p> Khyber-- #no point, more bacon talk required
[22:35:33] <baaaacon> karma - khyber: 13
[22:36:15] <xyzzyyzzyx> bacon++
[22:36:16] <baaaacon> karma - bacon: 165
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[22:41:16] <Khyber> mattie_p-- failure to recognize 90s game.
[22:41:16] <baaaacon> karma - mattie_p: 14
[22:42:50] <mattie_p> that was a game? going out and soliciting sex from african-americans?
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[22:43:47] <Khyber> MFW nobody recognizes http://www.youtube.com
[22:44:03] <Khyber> Fucking 90s gangsta rap, one of the most known raps, and nobody knows it.
[22:44:14] <Khyber> Go back to school fools
[22:45:34] <mattie_p> I just don't see how it came up here. take it to ##?
[22:45:41] <xyzzyyzzyx> ^
[22:45:45] <mattie_p> bacon there is beating bacon here, anyway
[22:45:50] <mattie_p> bacon++
[22:45:50] <baaaacon> karma - bacon: 166
[22:45:58] <mattie_p> still down by about 150 here.
[22:46:47] <Khyber> It came up here because you were talking about front page subjects. I've been watching for the past 8 hours and really ain;t much of shit challenging has been posted.
[22:47:08] <Khyber> aka I spent my entire work shift watching you from the shadows, and I see bullshit instead of progress.
[22:47:10] <Khyber> fix it
[22:47:21] <Khyber> or STUF
[22:47:24] <Khyber> *STFU
[22:47:40] <mattie_p> when was I talking about front page subjects? I feel I'm missing half the conversation here, my half
[22:49:09] <Khyber> SoyCow7363 Maybe in honor of 25 year old WWW they could do a classic design. B&W text with blue links and everything.
[22:49:10] <Khyber> SoyCow7363 Call it "optimized for mobile" or something.
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[22:49:12] <Khyber> mattie_p Khyber-- #no point, more bacon talk required
[22:49:12] <baaaacon> karma - mattie_pkhyber: -1
[22:49:14] <Khyber> >>try again when you're part of the hipster-ghetto crowd, sir, that knows what niggaz do.
[22:49:47] <mattie_p> ok, I might try that, then
[22:49:54] * Khyber is a porch monkey for lyfe. Get facts str8
[22:50:07] * Khyber will otherwise put you down in a hole
[22:52:37] <Khyber> I know my 'hood plus two hundred miles in any direction, having had prison sentence around that area.
[22:53:14] <Khyber> So talk all the shit you want. I can put the entire MS population in prison because the laws are so obscure I can just level charges left and right without care.
[22:53:27] <xyzzyyzzyx> Khyber--
[22:53:27] <baaaacon> karma - khyber: 12
[22:53:30] <Khyber> And most of them will plead guilty because they're too stupid
[22:53:56] * xyzzyyzzyx submitted a story
[22:54:01] <xyzzyyzzyx> +just
[22:54:23] <Khyber> vote me down because I stand up against a corrupt gov't. You['re obviously a gov't supporter.
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[22:55:05] <Khyber> hah the first two triplets gave you away though the other two are hidden.
[22:55:13] <Khyber> you thought you were safe lmfao
[22:55:46] <SoyCow7363> How many redbulls have you had?
[22:56:01] <mattie_p> or ... how many beers?
[22:56:04] <Khyber> I don't drink that garbage
[22:56:09] <Khyber> I only drink water and coffee
[22:56:28] <Khyber> and I don't touch beer. I drink homebrewed wine or liquor, of which, again, I have none.
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[22:56:38] * xyzzyyzzyx begs to keep this frequency clear
[22:56:39] <Khyber> Which means you're dealing with the true me, and I wil eliminate you.
[22:57:16] <Khyber> If you piss me off, I'll set your state on fire with my agricultural advantage.
[22:57:21] <mattie_p> Khyber, I think you need to settle down.
[22:57:27] <Khyber> Oh, wait, Texas is already suffering
[22:57:29] <Khyber> So is California
[22:57:37] <mattie_p> I don't know what you're ranting about, but please calm down
[22:57:39] <n1> i was wondering when being arrogant and condescending became the new cool
[22:57:48] <Khyber> both cattle states and failing because they won't listen to my water/plant saving advice
[22:57:52] <Khyber> their fault, not mine.
[22:58:02] <Khyber> In the meantime
[22:58:11] <Khyber> BBC has already covered me and one company using my technology
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[22:58:21] <FoobarBazbot> Texas and California, both states Khyber has lived in, both suffering.
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[22:58:28] <kobach> ROFL
[22:58:30] * FoobarBazbot sees a correlation...
[22:58:36] <n1> heh
[22:59:04] <mattie_p> I was just about to do that...
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[23:03:54] <Subsentient> Hi, I just woke up this machine, saw my bot's recent logs of this channel, and decided to come here to insult Khyber.
[23:03:59] <Subsentient> $burrito Khyber
[23:03:59] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Khyber
[23:04:10] <kobach> LOL owned
[23:04:14] <Subsentient> Khyber: The moment you think you're better is the moment you're not.
[23:05:05] * Subsentient has nothing left to do here.
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[23:05:15] * FunPika wonders if Khyber is still trying to post crap even though its quieted :P
[23:06:06] <n1> well one has to assume he's on the move to FoobarBazbot_'s state to set fire to it or something
[23:06:08] <mattie_p> dunno, buttercake would know
[23:06:11] <mattie_p> .op
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[23:06:14] <FunPika> .op
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[23:06:17] <mattie_p> I'll find out
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[23:06:44] <FunPika> nothing so far...
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[23:07:24] <n1> "400tb ddos"??
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[23:08:35] <baaaacon> [ksuhku] lolwhut
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[23:13:15] <prospectacle> Was thinking about polling. You could just have people vote ++ or -- in the comments, and run a script over them.
[23:13:29] <prospectacle> I mean it's only like 6 names and 4k users or whatever.
[23:13:59] <prospectacle> One vote per (logged in) user per name. One vote per line in comments, bit of string processing, presto.
[23:14:02] <prospectacle> Of course you lose anonymity
[23:14:37] <mattie_p> we're looking at various solutions, we might implement something shortly, but the name poll is not going up today
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[23:18:25] <prospectacle> Cool. I'm not too concerned, the name is fairly meaningless whatever it turns out to be. Just go to thinking how comments already have the required criteria (can verify unique UID, can mass-process people's input, etc), so no new system would be needed (other than 10-20 lines of comment-processing script)
[23:18:59] <prospectacle> Anyway just making conversation
[23:20:59] <baaaacon> [SoylentNews] - Three Strikes, Four Years... Zero Out - http://sylnt.us - do-the-warnings-work?
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