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[00:00:18] <FatPhil> doh! xlefay's online anyway!
[00:00:42] <pbnjoe> just not in this channel I guess
[00:00:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - On John's Departure ... - http://sylnt.us - changing-of-the-guard
[00:01:03] * pbnjoe rubs hands
[00:01:25] <pbnjoe> Let's see what the vision is
[00:01:37] <mattie_p> vision is overrated
[00:01:58] <pbnjoe> molesandbats++
[00:01:58] <Bender> karma - molesandbats: 1
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[00:05:03] <kobach> hi pbnjoe
[00:05:11] <kobach> whereabouts are you from
[00:05:20] <kobach> i forgot if i asked exactly
[00:05:29] <kobach> "canada" isnt very descripitive
[00:05:31] <pbnjoe> hello again kobach
[00:05:40] <pbnjoe> I'm in AB
[00:05:55] <kobach> still not very descriptive
[00:05:59] <kobach> lol
[00:06:15] <pbnjoe> you want the colour of my walls?
[00:06:18] <pbnjoe> :P
[00:06:26] <n1> lol
[00:06:27] <kobach> no alberta is a big place though
[00:06:29] <useless> heh
[00:06:52] <n1> kobach is profiling everyone for nefarious but currently unknown purposes
[00:07:04] <kobach> n1: useless: same questions go to you
[00:07:14] <pbnjoe> I was told not to tell strangers on the internet where I live ;)
[00:07:18] <n1> lol
[00:07:20] <useless> earth
[00:07:36] <useless> you drive a van without windows, don't you? ;)
[00:07:46] <kobach> no my car has lots of windows
[00:07:50] <useless> I don't want your candy!
[00:08:15] * kobach hands out free candy to everyone
[00:08:21] * pbnjoe doesn't want it
[00:08:26] * kobach yanks useless inside his car
[00:08:32] * kobach yanks pbnjoe into the car
[00:08:42] * kobach yanks n1 into the moving vehicle
[00:08:44] <pbnjoe> next you'll ask me to help find your puppy, or tell me that my parents are sick and you'll drive me to them
[00:08:45] <kobach> boom
[00:08:58] <kobach> i have somthing to show you kids
[00:09:02] * mattie_p shoots the tires out of your car
[00:09:02] <kobach> let me take you to my house
[00:09:09] <kobach> mattie_p: rofl
[00:09:10] * mattie_p then hands some pot to everyone
[00:09:12] <kobach> runfalts!
[00:09:14] * pbnjoe dives out of the now slow vehicle
[00:09:16] <kobach> flats too!
[00:09:27] * kobach speeds off
[00:09:28] <FatPhil> mattie_p: some info on IdleRPG: http://fatphil.org
[00:09:37] <kobach> hahahahah
[00:09:56] * pbnjoe smokes the pot in memory of useless and n1
[00:10:02] <kobach> pbnjoe: which hockey team do you go for
[00:10:03] <pbnjoe> hahaha
[00:10:11] <useless> great, after a long interesting life, I'm gonna end up a skin suit for some midwest nutjob...
[00:10:17] <kobach> rofl
[00:10:18] <pbnjoe> I'm not partial to any
[00:10:26] <n1> weirdly, it was how i saw mine ending...
[00:10:29] <useless> haha
[00:10:32] <kobach> hahaha
[00:10:40] <kobach> thats fucked up
[00:10:47] * Khyber lets out an enormous belch and pats a stuffed belly.
[00:10:56] <kobach> Khyber: way ahead of you
[00:10:56] <pbnjoe> says someone who just pretended to kidnap three people
[00:11:07] <n1> hah
[00:11:13] <kobach> pbnjoe: sorry eh
[00:11:21] <kobach> it happens
[00:11:26] <pbnjoe> I know you know, but no one says that
[00:11:48] <pbnjoe> the eh bit at least
[00:11:52] <pbnjoe> people say sorry a decent amount
[00:11:55] <pbnjoe> heh
[00:11:57] <mattie_p> nice documentation
[00:12:13] <kobach> cant lie to me, i talk to canadians daily theres plenty of eh to go around
[00:12:16] <Cactus> There is a guy I'm always in conference calls that always says "aboot"
[00:12:32] <pbnjoe> kobach and Cactus, you must only talk to newfies
[00:12:36] <kobach> no
[00:12:46] <Cactus> Alberta, I think.
[00:12:49] <pbnjoe> that's the only place I see the stereotypes in action
[00:12:50] <kobach> bc != newfie
[00:13:00] <pbnjoe> there are newfies in Alberta on the rigs
[00:13:08] <kobach> nor is edmonton and winnipeg
[00:13:10] <pbnjoe> interesting about BC though
[00:13:28] <kobach> you're not very canadian if you dont know people that say eh eh
[00:13:29] <useless> yeah yeah, it's all hockey sticks and maple syrup ;)
[00:13:33] <Cactus> I talk to guys from BC, Alberta, and Saskatchewan
[00:13:53] <Cactus> Pretty sure the only one that makes me giggle is in Alberta
[00:14:02] <pbnjoe> cross my heart, I know no one that says eh
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[00:14:15] <pbnjoe> maybe I'm in the minority
[00:14:46] <pbnjoe> back in an hour or two
[00:14:55] <kobach> maybe you just dont pay attention enough to notice
[00:15:28] * pbnjoe says nope as he leaves
[00:15:35] <kobach> oh my
[00:15:46] <pbnjoe> haha
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[00:22:10] <useless> hehehe
[00:22:41] <useless> poutine just posted to NCommanders post.
[00:22:56] <Cactus> Yeah, saw that.
[00:23:19] <kobach> omg im going to have to go look
[00:23:39] <Cactus> Same bitter, sad things he always says.
[00:24:33] <kobach> rofl replied to him
[00:24:53] <kobach> ihope i get modded up
[00:25:58] <kobach> he got modded troll
[00:26:19] <nobbis> i can imagine poutine-- becoming a poll option
[00:26:27] <kobach> yup
[00:26:30] <useless> oh yeah
[00:26:38] <kobach> found our cmdrtaco option
[00:26:44] <kobach> poutine--
[00:26:44] <Bender> karma - poutine: -227
[00:27:18] <mattie_p> looks like someone already posted that
[00:27:46] <FoobarBazbot> poutine--
[00:27:46] <Bender> karma - poutine: -228
[00:28:06] <kobach> hi FoobarBazbot
[00:29:39] <FoobarBazbot> hi kobach, greetings from my wristwatch, where I don't type much
[00:30:14] <FoobarBazbot> poutine-- this is worth it though
[00:30:14] <Bender> karma - poutine: -229
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[00:42:39] <martyb> hey all, nevermind my last comment about the bug
[00:42:45] <useless> ok
[00:42:55] <martyb> it really *does* truncate at 20 characters after all!!
[00:43:12] <martyb> please accept my apologies to anyone who was inconvenienced!
[00:43:31] <martyb> and with that, I gotta get going. Have fun everybody!
[00:43:40] <useless> later
[00:44:27] <n1> i commented on NCommanders post, re-reading it i sound like a shill ¬_¬
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[00:45:47] <useless> is there a cliffs notes version of the post. Ain't nobody got time to read all that
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[00:47:14] <Konomi> at a job interview
[00:47:20] <Konomi> say I can't live without a terminal
[00:47:29] <Konomi> inteviewer says I'm a dieing breed ;_;
[00:47:44] <useless> sad but true
[00:47:48] <n1> tl;dr.... trying to get everything done by consensus is impossible, john didn't have the time or energy for the demands of the project, the staff were unhappy
[00:48:11] <useless> n1: thanks.
[00:48:13] <n1> so john has stepped aside and NCommander is now running the project
[00:49:10] <Konomi> all hail our new overlord
[00:49:12] <Konomi> >,,<
[00:49:38] <FatPhil> I can see why I was mistaken for poutine now!
[00:49:39] <FoobarBazbot> Konomi: Well, vampires, highlanders, and other immortals aside, aren't we all?
[00:50:15] <n1> being a negative nancy, FatPhil?
[00:50:40] <Khyber> lmfao the poutine-- comment in NCommander's post.
[00:50:47] <Konomi> yay out of my interview clothes freedom of expression restored
[00:51:11] <Khyber> so you walk around the house nude, too? :D
[00:51:35] <FatPhil> n1: you could put it that way
[00:51:39] <Konomi> I would if it was my house
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[00:53:33] <mattie_p> Khyber, interestingly enough, I'm suadmin, and can't see if it was a logged out AC or logged-in posting as AC. I wonder if the raw dump of the db could determine
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[00:54:19] <Khyber> It might but you never know, it might keep anonymity fairly anonymous!
[00:54:32] <Konomi> pros of uniforms: gets you ready to be the next gestapo ~
[00:55:20] <FoobarBazbot> mattie_p can you see the IP address?
[00:55:33] <mattie_p> lemme check
[00:55:42] <mattie_p> I only have backslash interface
[00:56:54] <useless> Konomi: only if they're Hugo Boss
[00:57:12] <mattie_p> ... maybe indirectly
[00:57:32] <mattie_p> Can someone else post AC in that thread? want to check something.
[00:57:55] <useless> logged in?
[00:57:57] <useless> or not
[00:58:00] <FoobarBazbot> Logged in or no?
[00:58:07] <mattie_p> umm, both?
[00:58:13] <Cactus> one of each!
[00:58:17] <mattie_p> there might be a hint in the interface
[00:58:22] <mattie_p> but don't tell me who does what
[01:00:04] <mattie_p> oh, Barrabas just posted in that thread
[01:00:29] <useless> ok
[01:01:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Innovation Thrives on Face-to-Face Interaction - http://sylnt.us - water-is-wet
[01:01:38] <Konomi> whoever invented mpeg2 and thought it would be enough for high motion video on dvds needs to be shot
[01:01:40] <NCommander> Khyber, ?
[01:02:55] <mattie_p> useless, might be redundant, but backslash identifies you, possibly by IP, and has your username
[01:03:01] <mattie_p> this is not fucking secure
[01:03:10] <FoobarBazbot> mattie_p done
[01:03:14] <useless> interesting
[01:03:32] <mattie_p> foobar, got you too
[01:03:44] <mattie_p> were both of you logged in and posting AC, or logged out?
[01:03:44] <useless> was logged in, posted anon
[01:03:59] <mattie_p> need to fucking fix this asap
[01:04:06] <FoobarBazbot> 1 of each
[01:04:06] <stderr> Got mod points and don't know where to spend them? Here you go: http://soylentnews.org
[01:04:26] <Khyber> Nothing, NCommander, there was a post by an AC in your SN story post, it was simply poutine-- in response to something poutine had posted.
[01:04:32] <Cactus> Are you supposed to see who mods each comment, too?
[01:04:42] <mattie_p> staff can see that
[01:04:57] <mattie_p> but there should be no way we can ever associate an AC comment with a person
[01:04:58] * FoobarBazbot goes tablet
[01:05:01] <Cactus> Oh, ok. Good.
[01:05:15] <mattie_p> EVER
[01:05:26] <mattie_p> NCommander, you still here?
[01:05:27] <Khyber> Yea, see I was kinda wondering about that myself
[01:05:43] <Khyber> I mean, it had to be someone from the IRC chat, though. :D
[01:05:50] <Khyber> So that only leavesa hundred+ people to look at
[01:05:52] <mattie_p> no, I mean... hang on
[01:05:57] <mattie_p> let me imgur
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[01:06:40] <NCommander> mattie_p, just woke up, commenting on the resignation level
[01:06:48] <NCommander> er, on the response
[01:06:55] * NCommander is going to have that page on auto-refresh for the next few hours
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[01:07:07] <FoobarBazbot_> Ok, way too much typing on a watch. mattie_p, I posted two comments, one logged in and "anon" checked, one not logged in.
[01:07:17] <FoobarBazbot_> you seeing them both?
[01:07:24] <mattie_p> let me check
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[01:08:48] <mattie_p> here's the first one: http://i.imgur.com
[01:09:26] <mattie_p> actually, same thing
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[01:10:02] <mattie_p> as suadmin I can click the user hash next to the comment #
[01:10:10] <mattie_p> dunno if others can see that
[01:10:22] <mattie_p> foobar, you did poutine-- two times, correct?
[01:10:28] <mattie_p> I can see that you did that
[01:10:34] <mattie_p> that is fucking horrible
[01:10:40] <FoobarBazbot> poutine-- . and poutine-- .., yes
[01:10:40] <Bender> karma - poutine: -230
[01:10:49] <mattie_p> yup
[01:10:55] <Khyber> lmfao 230
[01:11:01] <pbnjoe> poutine--
[01:11:01] <Bender> karma - poutine: -231
[01:11:10] <Cactus> Oh yeah ,and you can see every time they posted as AC
[01:11:17] <pbnjoe> signifying I'm back :P
[01:11:33] <stderr> Oh, yeah! Who's level 40?!
[01:11:38] * stderr is LEVEL 40!
[01:11:39] <FoobarBazbot> AIUI, it looks like it's remembering (a hash of) the IP address of that user, for all AC posts?
[01:12:15] <Cactus> It's all posts for a user, with who they were posting as (AC or not)
[01:12:26] <mattie_p> yeah, that is terrible
[01:12:36] <pbnjoe> Yeah that's no good
[01:12:36] <Cactus> You have a second ID you can log in to, Foobar?
[01:12:37] <FoobarBazbot> At least it's not distinguishing between logged-in and logged-out, so if you use a busy proxy, it's different?
[01:12:51] <mattie_p> can someone SSH or VPN to another IP and we can test if it is IP, or cookie?
[01:12:55] <stderr> mattie_p: Yeah... You should complain about it in #irpg... :-)
[01:12:57] <FoobarBazbot> Or maybe it's because of the cookie, I could try a browser I've never been logged into
[01:13:09] <FoobarBazbot> Cactus: yes
[01:13:29] <mattie_p> no good, shows other IDs as well
[01:13:34] <mattie_p> once you've used them
[01:13:38] <mattie_p> I tested that myself
[01:13:41] <stderr> Guys? You do know we got the code, right?
[01:13:56] <Cactus> So it is IP, not cookie?
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[01:14:11] <mattie_p> Cactus, can't tell, didn't clear cookies when I did that
[01:14:26] <mattie_p> stderr, yes, but I want to know how bad it is, so the dev team knows how to fix it
[01:15:07] <Bender> [Subsentient] derp
[01:16:14] <FoobarBazbot> mattie_p: just posted from a cookie-free browser, same IP.
[01:16:25] <FoobarBazbot> (not logged in)
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[01:16:44] <mattie_p> ok, hang on, same thread?
[01:16:51] <FoobarBazbot> yes
[01:17:06] <mattie_p> yeah, it fucking hashes IP
[01:17:09] <NCommander> !todo
[01:17:09] <Bender> todo for ncommander: 1) make sure install-slashsite installs proper schema 2) port slash to mod_perl 2 3) Linode migration across accounts - ask support 4) operating system decision - schedule for next week 5) rewrite org chart 6) get name change discussion rolling 7) quit smoking 8) handle DNS registar crap
[01:17:13] <mattie_p> looks like, anyway
[01:17:17] <NCommander> huh
[01:17:22] <Subsentient> I read the note on the referendum, I kinda wanna keep the name Soylent News until we get a cease-and-desist.
[01:17:25] <NCommander> I guess I already struck the item for the changing of the guard post
[01:17:55] <pbnjoe> as do I
[01:18:20] <Subsentient> Or, we could strike a deal, like put a link to their page, saying "did you know Soylent was real?"
[01:18:47] <stderr> Subsentient: I think most of us would... But we were promised a vote, so we should have one...
[01:18:59] <Subsentient> indeed.
[01:19:14] * Subsentient wants to bring in his bot to irritate and/or amuse
[01:19:32] <stderr> We already got bots...
[01:19:35] <stderr> bots++
[01:19:35] <Bender> karma - bots: 1
[01:19:47] <mattie_p> anyway, can someone log that as a bug? We should hash AC based on comment ID and timestamp or something, not anything we can track
[01:19:50] <mattie_p> bad bad bad
[01:19:56] <mattie_p> I gotta take the kids outside
[01:20:00] <mattie_p> be back later
[01:20:20] <Subsentient> stderr: Can your bots throw old burritos at people?
[01:20:30] <stderr> Probably...
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[01:21:04] <stderr> I got a bug report for irpg... "<idlerpg> StHackNSlash cleared all 89 GB of porn off their hard disks. This wondrous godsend has accelerated them 0 days, 00:32:43 toward level 36." How is that a godsend?
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[01:23:14] * SedBot throws an old burrito at Subsentient
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[01:23:37] <stderr> mattie_p: I'm not sure that a bug... If comments are owned by the poster and someone writes something that sets off a lawsuit against SoylentNews, we might want to be able to point at the original poster (or his IP)... Maybe... I'm not sure...
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[01:23:52] <Subsentient> $burrito SedBot
[01:23:52] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at SedBot
[01:24:25] * SedBot throws a nasty, rotten burro at Subsentient
[01:24:32] <pbnjoe> ew
[01:24:56] * aqu4 drowns SedBot in a vat of aerosol cheese
[01:26:07] <FatPhil> stderr: now you have more room for higher resolution porn!
[01:26:41] <Subsentient> So good you can see the warts on the midget and the suckers on the tentacles!
[01:26:49] <stderr> FatPhil: Just get another new disk. No need to go crazy...
[01:27:26] <FatPhil> mattie_p: there could be legal implications for either (a) storing or (b) forgetting something that identifies the IP address. Here be dragons.
[01:28:00] * Subsentient notes there are legal implications to eating a sandwich
[01:28:03] <FatPhil> Personally, I like the "we throw away all information" approach. Authorities, however, don't.
[01:28:30] * FatPhil remembers anon.penet.fi
[01:28:30] <Subsentient> FatPhil: Screw em
[01:28:42] <FatPhil> scientology--
[01:28:42] <Bender> karma - scientology: -1
[01:28:53] <Subsentient> aqu4++
[01:28:53] <Bender> karma - aqu4: 1
[01:28:55] <Subsentient> aqu4++
[01:28:55] <Bender> karma - aqu4: 2
[01:28:56] <Subsentient> aqu4++
[01:28:56] <Bender> karma - aqu4: 3
[01:29:10] <Subsentient> Bender--
[01:29:10] <Bender> karma - bender: -11
[01:29:18] <stderr> bacon++
[01:29:18] <Subsentient> ROFL
[01:29:18] <Bender> karma - bacon: 96
[01:29:46] <aqu4> Gerbocalypse++
[01:29:47] <Bender> karma - gerbocalypse: 1
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[01:56:45] <kobach> fucking got modded -1 flamebait for saying hi poutine
[01:56:47] <kobach> god damn it
[01:56:52] <Khyber> LAWL
[01:56:56] <useless> hehe
[01:56:59] <Khyber> WTF else did you expect?
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[01:57:09] <kobach> what an ape
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[02:05:45] <pbnjoe> hahaha
[02:06:04] * pbnjoe has been reading the staff back-and-forth
[02:07:50] <kobach> lol
[02:08:06] <kobach> theyre busy posting the logs with the lines barrabas "forgot" to include
[02:08:22] <xlefay> Rather, what he didn't post in the lines he did post
[02:08:36] <pbnjoe> ah
[02:08:38] <pbnjoe> makes more sense
[02:08:43] <xlefay> for instance, who actually wrote those lines. Currently he makes it seem he wrote something he didn't wrote.
[02:08:54] <xlefay> Just check the logs for the time of "those" messages, you'll see
[02:09:08] <pbnjoe> yeah, I was really confused, which lead me to read the conversation in its entirety
[02:10:28] <kobach> bacon++
[02:10:28] <Bender> karma - bacon: 97
[02:10:49] <xlefay> taking_things_out_of_context--
[02:10:49] <Bender> karma - taking_things_out_of_context: -1
[02:11:58] * pbnjoe has more respect for NCommander now
[02:12:13] <pbnjoe> not to say I had little in the first place, but yeah
[02:13:21] <NCommander> pbnjoe, yeah, well, I'm posting the unredacted nuclear letter, and the staff transcripts from two nights ago
[02:13:27] <NCommander> John just posted a ton of stuff that was out of context
[02:13:38] * xlefay notes he really, really hates it when his chocolate milk is no more.
[02:13:43] <NCommander> I withheld those because while I don't look *great*, he dug his own grave and I was trying to protect him
[02:13:58] * NCommander had lost his temper at that point
[02:14:06] <NCommander> The staff log is, IMHO horrorifying
[02:14:13] <NCommander> I've never experienced anything like it, and I never want to again
[02:14:26] <pbnjoe> to be blunt, what I'm reading is quite the shitshow
[02:14:30] * arti is suddenly interested
[02:14:53] <xlefay> pbnjoe: you're fan of understating things no?
[02:14:58] <NCommander> http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:00] <pbnjoe> yes
[02:15:04] <NCommander> That's the letter
[02:15:10] <NCommander> And I'm not proud of the way I conducted itself
[02:15:15] <NCommander> The staff log is a bit longer
[02:15:17] <NCommander> *long
[02:15:19] <NCommander> *log
[02:15:23] <NCommander> I'm still extracting it
[02:15:48] <pbnjoe> which staff log? I'm reading the one hosted on pg.gda.pl
[02:16:00] <pbnjoe> the one that john sourced from
[02:16:10] <xlefay> that's a pretty good staff log pbnjoe
[02:16:16] <NCommander> pbnjoe, its truncated
[02:16:25] <pbnjoe> ok
[02:16:28] <NCommander> Parts are missing, I'm getting the one from the BIP log last night
[02:17:57] <Khyber> I fully expect this. I've not seen one dev project not devolve to infighting and bitching at one point or another, quite often multiple times.
[02:18:19] <kobach> ^
[02:18:38] <arti> everyone loves compromise.
[02:20:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Next-Generation Fuel Cells - http://sylnt.us - polyhedral-nanoframes-of-bimetallic-nanocrystals
[02:21:31] * Konomi compromises artis security
[02:21:55] <kobach> :o
[02:22:10] <Konomi> said everyone loves compromise ;_;
[02:22:24] <kobach> :o
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[02:22:59] <gallondr00nk> compromise++
[02:22:59] <Bender> karma - compromise: 1
[02:25:43] <mattie_p> compromise-- #because fuck compromise.
[02:25:43] <Bender> karma - compromise: 0
[02:25:49] <mattie_p> :)
[02:26:31] <gallondr00nk> well, it didn't seem well loved in the first place
[02:26:45] <kobach> bacon++
[02:26:46] <Bender> karma - bacon: 98
[02:26:54] <kobach> rofl
[02:27:00] <gallondr00nk> haha
[02:27:20] <stderr> bacon++
[02:27:20] <Bender> karma - bacon: 99
[02:27:20] <stderr> bacon++
[02:27:20] <Bender> karma - bacon: 100
[02:28:21] * kobach inhales cannabis smoke
[02:28:40] * gallondr00nk holds out for a pass
[02:28:47] * arti joins the party
[02:28:50] <kobach> lol nope, its a 1 hitter
[02:28:54] <kobach> i win
[02:28:59] <arti> i've got a "space pen"
[02:29:18] <gallondr00nk> is it one of those stealth one hitters that look like a cig?
[02:29:33] <kobach> yes
[02:29:45] <arti> it's by atmos
[02:30:51] <gallondr00nk> I used to just butcher cigarettes to make a stealthy J, but that sounds much better
[02:31:09] <arti> i enjoy disposable too, excellent for concerts and whatnot
[02:32:57] <gallondr00nk> how's the space pen arti?
[02:33:19] <arti> i'd recommend checking one out
[02:33:47] <arti> i also enjoy a good scotch, my rewards for a job well done
[02:34:35] <gallondr00nk> I would go for such a thing now, but I lack ice
[02:34:38] <Khyber> I've got tons of wax, let's do this shit!
[02:34:46] <gallondr00nk> wax++
[02:34:46] <Bender> karma - wax: 2
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[02:38:18] <arti> man this phone update timer keeps climbing
[02:38:30] <arti> 2 minutes .... 4 minutes 6 minutes ( as the time progresses)
[02:39:02] <gallondr00nk> ah, the windows school of counting
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[02:44:18] <kobach> lol LaminatorX
[02:44:30] <LaminatorX> Ahoy.
[02:44:54] <Khyber> oi
[02:45:14] <arti> laminator is awesome because things just slide right off him
[02:45:24] <kobach> hence the x
[02:45:26] <Konomi> LaminatorX kinda sounds like you're a hit man or something
[02:45:28] <kobach> like RainX
[02:45:34] <arti> BrandX
[02:45:35] <Konomi> I KILL ZEM THEN I LAMINATE THEM
[02:45:46] <arti> http://eeuauaughhhuauaahh.ytmnd.com
[02:45:57] <kobach> so LaminatorX #staff
[02:46:02] <gallondr00nk> @lx : your nick always makes me want to listen to public enemy
[02:46:08] <kobach> interesting situation
[02:46:35] <kobach> lol
[02:46:42] * Konomi wonders what goes on at the secret staff meetings
[02:46:43] <LaminatorX> Listen, and understand. That Lamminator is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
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[02:47:03] <LaminatorX> Or covered in a protective plastic coating.
[02:47:13] <gallondr00nk> Laminators are often resistant to being reasoned with
[02:47:18] <kobach> Konomi: welp the password file barrabas sent ncommander, is umm, well, encrypted
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[02:47:38] <Konomi> as one would hope a password file would be
[02:47:40] <useless> Konomi: like the ingredients to hotdogs...it's best not knowing
[02:47:48] <kobach> and he didnt send the password
[02:47:56] <kobach> intentionally
[02:47:56] <Konomi> is it bad I pictured like a staff orgy ;_;
[02:48:01] <Konomi> oh ;_;
[02:48:02] <kobach> yes
[02:48:03] <Konomi> that is not good
[02:48:08] <kobach> because its the complete opposite of an orgy
[02:48:17] <pbnjoe> intentionally? :O
[02:48:32] <useless> depends on how kinky you like your orgies
[02:48:51] <LaminatorX> Encrypted.
[02:49:08] <gallondr00nk> hard to crack..
[02:49:13] <kobach> "Here's the file with all the passwords. PM me tomorrow and I'll give you the decryption key. Try not to knock over my personal websites. I'm out for at least a week. I'll do high-level stuff like making you admin of things, but otherwise I'm taking a break. "
[02:49:56] <LaminatorX> Well, it's sort of helpful.
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[02:50:55] <pbnjoe> why not put the relevant pw's in a new encrypted file (to exclude that personal-sites bit) then immediately, safely, give the pass?
[02:51:23] <pbnjoe> weird thing to do imo
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[02:51:40] <kobach> pbnjoe: because thats not blackmail
[02:51:52] <kobach> thats not it works
[02:52:18] <pbnjoe> yes, sorry, I was expecting a clean break. I don't know why; I read the logs
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[02:54:42] <kobach> yea nobody knows
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[02:54:46] <kobach> dont worry about it
[02:55:08] <pbnjoe> I'm not. Just observing from the sidelines
[02:55:33] <kobach> same
[02:55:45] <kobach> im just here to uphold the peace on irc
[02:55:51] <pbnjoe> :)
[02:55:56] <kobach> lol
[02:56:45] <kobach> see
[02:56:48] <kobach> .op kobach
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[02:56:56] <kobach> .voice pbnjoe
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[02:57:03] <kobach> .deop pbnjoe
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[02:57:05] <kobach> .deop kobach
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[02:57:09] <kobach> rofl
[02:57:14] <pbnjoe> :S
[02:57:28] <Konomi> "Man I had a weird dream" "Yeah, clows or midgets?"
[02:57:33] <Konomi> love this show
[02:57:40] <kobach> lolol
[02:57:41] <Konomi> clowns*
[02:57:44] <useless> Konomi: ??
[02:57:53] <Konomi> useless: it's from supernatural
[02:58:00] <useless> ah
[02:58:20] <pbnjoe> what was I just given? :P
[02:58:33] <kobach> +v
[02:59:31] * pbnjoe hasn't looked into irc enough to know what that all entails
[02:59:58] <useless> you're now married
[03:00:30] <pbnjoe> uh oh
[03:00:48] <pbnjoe> I need to look into customs before I go places
[03:01:03] <useless> yeah, irc is a strange place
[03:02:06] <pbnjoe> ok, looked it up; thanks for letting me talk if the rest of the channel is told to shut it
[03:02:08] <pbnjoe> heh
[03:03:16] <kobach> lol
[03:05:15] <arti> everyone likes pbnjoes
[03:05:23] <pbnjoe> :D
[03:05:24] <arti> or...sloppyjoes
[03:05:29] <kobach> thats because hes canadian
[03:05:36] <kobach> everybody likes canadians, except natives
[03:05:41] <arti> sure they do
[03:05:47] <arti> smug bastards
[03:06:02] <kobach> lol
[03:06:39] <pbnjoe> the "except natives" bit made me go HA
[03:06:55] <arti> do they get casinos up there too?
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[03:07:44] <kobach> pbnjoe: rofl see i know better
[03:08:06] <pbnjoe> arti, I don't know of any
[03:09:50] <pbnjoe> I can't think of any way to say what natives have/do without sounding at least slightly racist
[03:09:54] <pbnjoe> so I won't
[03:10:00] <kobach> lol
[03:10:10] <kobach> im glad i know plenty of canadians tha have already told me ;)
[03:10:35] <pbnjoe> heheh
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[03:15:32] <xlefay> ;)
[03:15:36] * xlefay looks around
[03:15:42] <xlefay> heh.. who married pbnjoe?
[03:16:16] <useless> hehe
[03:16:31] <xlefay> anyone seen crackz recently?
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[03:16:55] <pbnjoe> oh god this blue dot is like a ring on my finger
[03:16:58] <xlefay> !seen crackz
[03:16:58] <pbnjoe> hahaha
[03:17:12] <xlefay> oh seen don't work no more, pbnjoe so who's the lucky guy?
[03:17:22] <pbnjoe> or whatever it is on a not-stylized client, + or whatever it is
[03:17:53] <pbnjoe> uh, I am, because I now have voice! eheh... ugh
[03:17:55] * pbnjoe sweats
[03:18:08] <xlefay> kobach: did you force him to marry you?
[03:18:57] <useless> it was a beutiful ceramony...I teared up a bit
[03:19:09] <xlefay> oh my, sorry I missed it
[03:19:36] * NCommander is sick of drama
[03:19:36] * xlefay congratulates pbnjoe & kobach, here have some bacon.
[03:19:57] * pbnjoe chews bacon with a dry mouth
[03:20:13] <pbnjoe> NCommander, I don't blame you
[03:20:32] <pbnjoe> I got a "yeesh" feeling just reading the truncated log
[03:20:52] <pbnjoe> and I wasn't even part of it
[03:21:03] <arti> i get my drama fix from breaking bad
[03:21:08] * arti is totally not with the times
[03:21:26] <pbnjoe> I started watching it after the final episode aired
[03:21:33] <arti> i have a friend who does the same thing
[03:21:47] <arti> i just like having a lot of episodes to burn through >.>
[03:21:47] <pbnjoe> ... and proceeded to watch the entire series in about 10 days
[03:21:53] <pbnjoe> same
[03:21:56] <arti> house of cards was a saturday
[03:22:08] <arti> "one more... just one more"
[03:22:22] <pbnjoe> ^ the chant of many things I do
[03:22:23] <arti> one more controller to do o/
[03:22:46] <pbnjoe> one more turn, one more strip of bacon, etc
[03:24:25] <Khyber> speaking of turns, I haven't played boargame online lately
[03:24:30] <Khyber> *boardgame
[03:25:14] <pbnjoe> my god MichaelDavidCrawford writes long posts
[03:25:29] <xlefay> LOL i noticed that too
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[03:26:09] <kobach> LOL same
[03:26:17] <Cactus> Does anyone know what that guy is on about?
[03:26:23] <xlefay> tl;dr
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[03:26:28] <xlefay> tl;dr'd it *
[03:26:39] <kobach> pbnjoe: do you have a metis problem in your area
[03:26:44] <pbnjoe> it's like he dictates his stream of consciousness to a voice-to-text program for 10 minutes, copies the output, then goes "Another valuable post for SoylentNews" and pats his back
[03:27:02] <xlefay> Silly thing is, it might even be if we cared to actually read it
[03:27:03] <pbnjoe> this newest post he writes about how people think he's a bot
[03:27:22] <pbnjoe> kobach I'm not going to let you try to localize me :P
[03:27:22] <xlefay> really? I stand corrected then.
[03:27:23] <Cactus> I think I like his posts. I'm going to print them on trading cards and we can collect them all.
[03:27:33] <kobach> pbnjoe: rofl i have it narrowed down
[03:27:48] <xlefay> uh oh :P
[03:27:50] <pbnjoe> s/trading cards/trading scrolls/ for Cactus
[03:27:56] <Cactus> hah
[03:28:21] <pbnjoe> why do you even care? it's creepy, man :S
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[03:28:39] <Khyber> http://www.boardgame-online.com let's play a game!
[03:28:40] <xlefay> pbnjoe: aah the joys of IRC mariage ;)
[03:28:53] <Khyber> warning, said gameis time consuming
[03:28:57] <Khyber> and YOU WILL GET MAD
[03:29:11] <pbnjoe> there's enough MADness going around here lately
[03:29:35] <Khyber> Mutually Assured Destruction?
[03:29:59] <kobach> lol
[03:30:01] <pbnjoe> just mimicking your yelling
[03:30:18] <kobach> pbnjoe: curiosity + boredom
[03:30:35] <kobach> same reason i try to narrow down everyone, like i have you narrowed down
[03:30:44] <pbnjoe> oh, wait, no, MCD (Michaeletcetc) is talking about the Mike McCarthy recruitment bot or whatever
[03:30:44] <xlefay> LOL
[03:31:33] * pbnjoe quietly buys another lock for his door
[03:31:58] <xlefay> pbnjoe: make that two and include a deadbolt
[03:32:26] <pbnjoe> *nod*
[03:32:49] * Khyber makes a few bump keys, grins.
[03:32:50] <xlefay> Also, be sure not to fall for the bacon door selling routine
[03:32:58] <kobach> lol, universities usually have plenty of security
[03:33:27] <kobach> Khyber: rofl
[03:33:45] <kobach> pbnjoe: dont worry, i wont ask to come visit you when i roll through town
[03:33:55] <kobach> you're afraid of ircfolk so i wont bother you
[03:33:59] <kobach> :p
[03:34:10] <pbnjoe> I'm actually physically cringing
[03:34:13] <pbnjoe> as much as one can
[03:34:27] <kobach> go eat some poutine, itll warm you up
[03:34:34] <kobach> make me some
[03:34:41] <Khyber> yuck, poutine
[03:34:43] <Khyber> poutine--
[03:34:43] <FailBot> karma - poutine: -232
[03:34:50] <kobach> no the food not the person
[03:34:58] <Khyber> again, poutine--
[03:35:03] <kobach> Khyber--
[03:35:03] <FailBot> karma - khyber: 13
[03:35:03] <Khyber> blech
[03:35:27] <Khyber> If I wanted that looked like someone that worked at Waffle house made stoned, I'd just get high and make it in my kitchen! :D
[03:35:44] <kobach> i dont see what the difference is
[03:35:57] <xlefay> bacon++
[03:35:57] <FailBot> karma - bacon: 101
[03:35:59] <Khyber> I'd use weed as wel
[03:36:06] <Khyber> which regular poutine simply does not have
[03:36:12] <kobach> i guess youd put it in the gravy?
[03:36:15] <Khyber> and what person poutine prolly needs
[03:36:19] <Khyber> nah cheese curds
[03:36:21] <Khyber> higher fat
[03:36:24] <kobach> true
[03:36:37] <Khyber> except I'd prolly replace the curds with ricotta instead
[03:36:51] <kobach> i dont think ill stop you
[03:36:56] <Khyber> Oh and green onions atop
[03:37:17] <kobach> lol
[03:37:25] <kobach> i have my last chorizo cooking now
[03:37:30] <pbnjoe> that actually sounds tasty, except for munching on weed
[03:37:36] <kobach> lol
[03:37:52] <kobach> you dont eat the actual weed(usually)
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[03:38:01] <Khyber> you wouldn't munch on the weed itself. I'd just extract the stuff into fats and remove the solids
[03:38:24] <pbnjoe> Oh, of course. I just pictured you forming lumps of cheese curd around it haha
[03:38:31] <arti> ugh
[03:38:35] <pbnjoe> Yeah
[03:38:38] <pbnjoe> no kidding
[03:38:45] <arti> headband <3
[03:39:03] <pbnjoe> ?
[03:39:16] <Khyber> kush++
[03:39:16] <FailBot> karma - kush: 1
[03:39:30] <arti> bubba++
[03:39:30] <FailBot> karma - bubba: 1
[03:39:48] <pbnjoe> lot of love for Mary Jane in this channel I see
[03:40:12] <arti> work hard play hard
[03:40:15] <Khyber> pot and technology go hand in hand
[03:40:32] <Khyber> no lighter? Soldering iron!
[03:40:38] <kobach> esp if you have wax
[03:40:55] <Khyber> That reminds me, I should make a wax vape coil that's USB powered
[03:41:05] <Khyber> that I can just attach to my bongs
[03:41:07] <arti> kickstarter
[03:41:08] <kobach> you havent yet?
[03:41:10] <kobach> rofl
[03:41:18] <Khyber> Nichrome wire isn't THAT cheap
[03:41:34] <arti> have you seen the vaporizer market?
[03:41:36] <Khyber> also I need a better power regulation scheme
[03:41:48] <arti> "if its flaming, ease off"
[03:41:58] <kobach> ^
[03:42:10] <arti> do it japanese instruction style, with the O and X
[03:43:11] <FailBot> [SoylentNews] - US Gov. Sues Sprint Over Mystery Charges - http://sylnt.us - does-this-sound-famliar
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[03:49:23] <pbnjoe> " The last time I asked that question, I grew concerned that the cashier at the Fred Meyers grocery store deli was going to call 9-1-1 to have the local constabulary YET AGAIN haul me off to the nuthouse in handcuff."
[03:49:47] <pbnjoe> - Michael David Crawford
[03:50:03] <Cactus> Haha
[03:50:18] <Cactus> Srsly. Someone needs to chronicle this stuff.
[03:50:23] <Cactus> Pure gold.
[03:50:24] <pbnjoe> You think he has fun writing up crazy-sounding, page long rants, or...
[03:50:35] <robind> yeah who the hell is that guy
[03:50:45] <Cactus> I'm going to start a fan club.
[03:50:51] <robind> he's pretty rad
[03:50:56] <robind> i'm going to fan him on SN
[03:51:21] <anthem> so ya'll got into a scuffle
[03:51:41] <anthem> it happens
[03:51:44] <pbnjoe> Like, he just rants about being locked up in a nuthouse for no reason, then he swerves and starts talking about beta
[03:51:45] <pbnjoe> like, what
[03:52:55] <pbnjoe> "I don't drink much so I tip every dance" "third party Apple developer" "1995-1995", etc etc
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[03:55:17] <pbnjoe> ooh, in a response to a response to his comment he says he does indeed write in the stream-of-consciousness form
[03:55:45] <Popeidol> I was unsure if he was a troll at first
[03:56:07] <pbnjoe> It's hard to tell
[03:56:10] <pbnjoe> because it's hard to read haha
[03:56:18] <Popeidol> but he seems to have a lot of technical knowledge, just with a habit of dumping any thought he has down as a comment
[03:56:27] <pbnjoe> yeah
[03:58:45] <useless> "I'll dig up my linkedin profile when I'm not using mom's dialup."
[03:58:47] <robind> yeah no that guy is the bomb
[03:58:53] <useless> wow...just wow
[03:59:04] <robind> would love to have a drink with him you know
[03:59:25] <pbnjoe> but he doesn't drink much
[03:59:31] <pbnjoe> apparently
[03:59:35] <Khyber> See Mom's Dialup is what makes me think he's a troll after talking about being successful in sales and shit
[04:00:00] <Popeidol> na,h he wrote a whole comment about his parents connection speeds on dialup
[04:00:03] <xlefay> "Please shut up and take my money" style?
[04:00:27] <robind> he's probably just visiting his mom
[04:00:54] <Popeidol> I haven't needed to use dialup-only since around 2008
[04:01:03] <Popeidol> I'm assuming that now all you can use is lynx and irc
[04:01:10] <Popeidol> and apparently SOYLENTNEWS
[04:01:29] <Khyber> yes Soylent is so lightweight that it's pretty much instant on my computer. Like the old days of cable modem :D
[04:01:40] <Khyber> back when it was analog cable modem and you got like 50 mbit no problem
[04:02:04] <Khyber> it seemed like I could have barely let go of the enter key and the site was there.
[04:02:35] <Popeidol> they never rolled cable where I am, so that is an experience I missed out on
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[04:04:56] <Khyber> awww :(
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[04:06:56] <useless> his site is equally interesting
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[04:09:25] <pbnjoe> I think he used it as the source for the two stories he said he submitted
[04:09:35] <pbnjoe> like, things he wrote on it
[04:12:53] <kobach> pbnjoe: i sent you a pm
[04:13:23] * xlefay notes kobach's a stalker.
[04:13:29] <xlefay> j/k :p
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[04:18:48] <kobach> i just had me some mighty fine horizo
[04:18:51] <kobach> chorizo too
[04:18:58] <useless> nice
[04:20:29] * Khyber redownloads Wolfenstein Enemy Territory
[04:20:41] <kobach> friend of mine used to run a server for that
[04:21:17] <Cactus> horizo
[04:21:26] <Cactus> whorizo
[04:21:49] <pbnjoe> whorizon
[04:22:35] <Cactus> whorizontal
[04:23:04] <pbnjoe> part of the whorizon network
[04:23:25] <Cactus> "Can you feel me now?"
[04:24:12] <kobach> rofl
[04:24:19] <kobach> god damn
[04:25:10] <Cactus> And this is what comes of sitting on IRC.
[04:25:37] <kobach> yyyyyyyyyyup
[04:26:07] <Popeidol> whorizo would be a very phallic chorizo right?
[04:26:18] <Khyber> awwright ET is downloaded. Now to install and see if I can find a server with actual players
[04:26:29] <xlefay> Khyber: 2.6b patch'd?
[04:26:32] <kobach> Khyber: wish my friends server was up lol
[04:26:42] <Khyber> yep 2.60b
[04:26:48] <xlefay> Khyber: tip: try F|A silent server
[04:27:26] <xlefay> if you like friendly fire, F|A hardcore
[04:27:29] <xlefay> ;)
[04:27:48] <Subsentient> I'm going violently angry over Ruby compiling in i686 instructions on my fucking i586 compiler. DEATH TO INLINE ASSEMBLY!!!!
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[04:28:24] <Subsentient> 99.999999% of my system is properly i586, but Ruby wants to be special!!!!
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[04:32:54] <Khyber> and I get pure server failed or something like that, hard to read on my shit monitor
[04:33:06] <Khyber> this is the wolf client directly from splash damage
[04:33:26] <xlefay> Khyber: what windows?
[04:33:38] <xlefay> Did you also get the latest pb updates?
[04:33:57] <Khyber> yea I got al that. It's needing admin priv
[04:34:09] * xlefay notes PB doesn't officially support ET anymore so
[04:34:32] <xlefay> you got an etkey yet? (for a pb guid?) if not: http://etkey.org [since PB doesn't generate these anymore]
[04:34:49] <xlefay> and then it's a simple matter of starting as admin (or better yet, not having it in a restricted dir)
[04:34:56] <xlefay> or enable XP compat iirc
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[04:46:20] <kobach> i usually ended up just moving it onto my desktop
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[04:46:27] <kobach> program files wasnt working for some reason
[04:47:09] <Khyber> it was just give admin and do compat for win2k
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[04:49:04] <kobach> lol
[04:50:13] <Khyber> and the F|A server meh
[04:50:19] <Khyber> cool loads of humans
[04:50:27] <Khyber> boo admins fucking with gravity and classes every 25 seconds
[04:50:40] <kobach> owned
[04:50:41] <Khyber> VSE motherfuckers
[04:51:11] <kobach> i need a medic!!!
[04:53:51] * kobach throws a slice of pepperoni at stderr
[04:54:38] <stderr> That was yesterday... Today it's going to be burritos.
[04:55:54] <pbnjoe> and burros
[04:56:57] <Cactus> burro burrito
[04:57:52] <Cactus> I saw a group of guys talk their buddy in to asking for a "pito burrito" from one of the food trucks.
[04:58:33] <Cactus> The look on the cooks face was hilarious. Even better than the poor bastard they conned in to saying it.
[05:00:29] <pbnjoe> flute/joint/dick burrito? I'm guessing the last one
[05:01:21] <Cactus> Yes, last one
[05:01:44] <pbnjoe> other ones aren't as funny :P
[05:05:53] <pbnjoe> it even sounds funny phonetically, provided pito is pronounced peeto
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[05:06:10] <pbnjoe> heheh
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[05:09:52] <mattie_p> Hi Barrabas
[05:10:27] <Barrabas> Hi. I'm banned from #staff - I guess I'm the new pariah.
[05:10:53] <mattie_p> Nah, so am I
[05:10:59] <mattie_p> I'm just an editor again
[05:11:19] <mattie_p> lots of changes in the past few days
[05:11:23] <juggs> hey Barrabas - glad to see you're still around. That public laundry was painful to read :(
[05:11:24] <Barrabas> Huh. I would have thought editors are staff too.
[05:11:49] <mattie_p> Oh, I'm still staff, just not manager or overlord of everything or whatever
[05:11:59] <mattie_p> I was actually going to send you an email soon, though
[05:12:12] <Barrabas> juggs: I've got almost a week of relax under my belt, and am looking forward to some light chat without "the job" hanging over my head. Bliss!
[05:12:39] <Barrabas> mattie_p: About what? Want to talk here?
[05:12:49] <mattie_p> We can talk here.
[05:12:55] <Barrabas> PM or public?
[05:12:59] <juggs> ohhh the political intrigue and machiavellian intrigue rolls on :(
[05:13:17] <martyb> Barrabas: hi there! Good to"see" you.
[05:13:19] <mattie_p> whatever, its just with the changeover NCommander mentioned he was missing a password
[05:13:30] <mattie_p> I think to the encrpypted file?
[05:13:34] <Barrabas> mattie_p: Which one? I'll get it to him.
[05:13:51] <mattie_p> since he's traveling ans his schedule sucks he asked me to hit you up
[05:13:53] <Barrabas> Hmmm... I E-mailed it, but I can do it again. One sec.
[05:14:07] <mattie_p> umm, its the one with the domain registrar and all that
[05:14:17] <Barrabas> mattie_p: Do you want it, or should I send it to him directly?
[05:15:07] <mattie_p> Can you send us both the password? I'm not in charge anymore but I can be a safe repository
[05:16:33] <robind> so am i the only one that is DISGUSTED by the cosmos reboot?
[05:16:43] <useless> yes
[05:17:12] * MrBluze looks up at the sky
[05:17:15] <MrBluze> which cosmos
[05:17:17] <paulej72> robind: no I think it will be terrible
[05:17:22] <useless> it's pretty good
[05:17:34] <useless> fairly faithful to the original
[05:17:43] <robind> but I want to hate Tyson
[05:17:55] <robind> so my worldview does not allow for that, useless
[05:17:59] <martyb> MrBluze: something tells me their not talking about the magazine...
[05:18:03] <useless> heh, ok then
[05:18:07] <paulej72> was it on? I must have missed the first episode
[05:18:15] <robind> idk but I've known about it for a year
[05:18:24] <robind> and as a huge sagan fan I find it...disturbing
[05:18:26] <useless> first ep airs next week
[05:18:30] <MrBluze> .. okay
[05:18:40] * NCommander wakes up
[05:18:47] <paulej72> it's of Fox, that is one of my issues with it.
[05:19:05] <useless> why?
[05:19:15] <martyb> paulej72: didn't know that... may have to check it out.
[05:19:25] * martyb only gets ota
[05:19:30] <paulej72> they will run it out out order and cancel it after 13 episodes
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[05:19:35] <useless> haha
[05:20:01] * paulej72 still mad about Firefly
[05:20:04] <NCommander> that's called the firefly effect
[05:20:09] <useless> no, I think MacFarlene has them by the balls enough to make them not Fox..err fuck it up
[05:20:27] <martyb> NCommander: yup on that one!
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[05:21:08] <MrBluze> Barrabas: .. http://soylentnews.org .. did u post that?
[05:21:35] <MrBluze> nvm oh shit i better post a correction to my comment
[05:21:42] <MrBluze> sorry mate i misread it
[05:21:45] <Barrabas> Yes, that's me. Some other replies of note in that thread as well.
[05:22:07] <Barrabas> I'm in an important PM - can't talk right now.
[05:22:16] <MrBluze> no prob ignore me lol
[05:22:29] <Popeidol> I always read 'pm' as 'prime minister'
[05:22:35] <Popeidol> which makes that sentence so much better
[05:22:41] <pbnjoe> hahaha
[05:23:54] * MrBluze gets back into his box
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[05:25:02] <stderr> Popeidol: You should know better. There's no such thing as an important prime minister.
[05:25:15] * martyb joins MrBluze in his cardboard box space ship and we make plans to visit the cosmos
[05:25:34] <pbnjoe> to see its disgusting-ness?
[05:25:38] <MrBluze> cool.. but can we write the plans in php this time??
[05:25:40] <martyb> to infinity, and beyond!
[05:25:42] <useless> robind: I went in expectiing to hate it, being Fox/Tyson/MacFarlene/etc, but I wasimpressed
[05:25:55] <Popeidol> stderr: relatedly, everybody should have seen this by now: http://s3.overclockers.com.au
[05:26:12] <Landon> access denied
[05:26:18] <pbnjoe> I see a big fat 403
[05:26:44] <Popeidol> well isn't that delightful
[05:26:46] <stderr> Popeidol: Yeah, that 403 is sooo funny...
[05:26:50] <Popeidol> this should work http://www.overclockers.com.au
[05:26:56] <Landon> http://soylentnews.org anyone who's read this post
[05:27:02] <Landon> is it really just an elaborate troll
[05:27:03] <Landon> ?
[05:27:09] <Landon> or should I bother getting past the 2nd para
[05:27:11] <useless> Landon: nope
[05:27:17] <useless> not a troll
[05:27:20] <pbnjoe> Oh Patrick Stewart
[05:27:45] <Popeidol> Landon: not a troll, but somebody summarises it in a reply. read the summary instead.
[05:28:02] <pbnjoe> Yeah, that guy apparently writes comments in stream-of-consciousness
[05:28:11] <pbnjoe> which leads to it being mostly a lot of nothing
[05:28:23] <pbnjoe> so not a troll, but... odd
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[05:29:35] <xlefay> bacon++ obligatory.
[05:29:35] <Leela> karma - bacon: 102
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[05:29:49] <pbnjoe> :S
[05:29:53] <pbnjoe> well, thanks for stopping in
[05:30:08] <useless> driveby baconing is a thing now, I guess
[05:30:15] <stderr> He said what needed to be said...
[05:30:21] <pbnjoe> while calmly stating "obligatory"
[05:30:32] <Popeidol> he is truly an inspiration to us all.
[05:30:39] <pbnjoe> \/channel
[05:30:42] <pbnjoe> whoops
[05:30:51] <pbnjoe> /channel, I mean
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[05:31:24] <pbnjoe> Bado's got the right idea
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[05:32:25] <Leela> [SoylentNews] - SAT Test Gets Major Overhaul - http://sylnt.us - uphill-in-the-snow-both-ways
[05:35:33] <Landon> pbnjoe: /join 0 you say?
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[05:38:30] <Cactus> http://soylentnews.org
[05:40:32] <robind> i hope that no one will fall for that
[05:40:36] <robind> is pretty transparent
[05:40:57] <Cactus> it is, but it still our name, over there, with that BS.
[05:40:59] <kobach> my heart hurts, from bacon
[05:41:50] <useless> nothing you can do about it, sadly
[05:42:05] <kobach> oh wow
[05:42:09] <kobach> that guy is fucked in the head
[05:43:00] <juggs> which? The MichaelCrawford guy or the spam /. with KKK + Soylent refs guy?
[05:43:15] <kobach> the kkk niggerjew guy
[05:43:29] <kobach> very disturbed individual
[05:43:39] <kobach> obvious he posted the ones on /.
[05:43:40] <MrBluze> no, not disturbed
[05:43:41] <juggs> no doubt they find it funny
[05:43:42] <MrBluze> paid
[05:43:46] <kobach> same thing
[05:43:58] <MrBluze> it's people who are trying to create a pretext to take the site down
[05:44:21] <kobach> like poutine?
[05:44:34] <MrBluze> no idea
[05:44:43] <kobach> lol
[05:45:06] <MrBluze> but it's the usual way .. u do stuff, and say .. loook - you arent managing extremes.. u must be sympathetic to them.. burn burn burn witch!
[05:45:07] <Cactus> No, poutine is an angry, bitter fellow. Not malicious.
[05:45:13] <MrBluze> and then they get u to take your site down
[05:45:23] <kobach> the good news is, poutine seems to have left irc, and with the arrival of pbnjoe, we can talk about the food again
[05:45:37] <MrBluze> bacon_ftw++
[05:45:37] <Leela> karma - bacon_ftw: 1
[05:45:42] <kobach> bacon++
[05:45:42] <Leela> karma - bacon: 103
[05:46:05] <juggs> MrBluze, I can't see it as a particularly effective strategy. How is it supposed to work? Issue some legal takedown on the grounds that SN is some extremist anti-everything site? Clearly not going to go far in the courts as it patently isn't.
[05:46:45] <MrBluze> its the main risk of having AC
[05:47:02] <kobach> ok tommorow morning should i have smoked jowl, or smoked bacon
[05:47:06] <MrBluze> but AC is the only reason i'd stay at a site like this
[05:47:13] <MrBluze> its the best thing about it
[05:47:14] <kobach> bacon wrapped jowl
[05:47:21] <kobach> dear jesus
[05:47:34] <kobach> im going to have a heart attack
[05:47:35] <Cactus> Ehh, I doubt we can get in to legal trouble. 4chan and other sites have pulled that stuff plenty.
[05:47:41] <kobach> ^
[05:48:05] <MrBluze> that would be reassuring, Cactus
[05:48:12] <kobach> stderr: ^breakfast
[05:48:23] <juggs> Maybe effective in the US I guess where everyone gets hammered with their own lawyer's costs rather than loser pays - or ridiculous suits get slapped down with extreme prejudice before they come to court.
[05:48:27] <pbnjoe> Landon, heheh, I just meant now that "bacon" has been said the channel's finished. All there is to it ;)
[05:49:06] <MrBluze> .. well if wet a whole bunch of godwin stuff
[05:49:48] <pbnjoe> kobach, :D
[05:49:53] <kobach> hi pbnjoe
[05:49:55] <pbnjoe> let the culinary conversation continue
[05:50:06] <kobach> i decieded on jowl wrapped bacon
[05:50:13] <pbnjoe> jowl?
[05:50:17] <kobach> the higher fat will be better cirspier, on the outside
[05:50:19] <useless> deep fried in duck fat?
[05:50:21] <kobach> yes jowl bacon
[05:50:26] <kobach> useless: no it has enough of its own fat
[05:50:33] <useless> wuss
[05:50:38] <kobach> i dont have duck fat
[05:50:41] <kobach> and pork > duck
[05:50:45] <pbnjoe> never heard of that actually
[05:50:56] <pbnjoe> I pictured a bulldog with a bunch of bacon on its face
[05:51:05] <useless> haha
[05:51:07] <kobach> thats probably not exactly inaccurate
[05:51:12] <pbnjoe> hahaha
[05:51:15] <kobach> just replace the dog with a pig
[05:51:17] <kobach> lol
[05:51:21] <pbnjoe> and then eat it
[05:51:35] <kobach> yes
[05:51:40] <pbnjoe> bacon++
[05:51:40] <Leela> karma - bacon: 104
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[05:51:51] <kobach> im going to fry the shit out of it
[05:52:16] <pbnjoe> I'll leave you to it :) I'm off until tomorrow
[05:52:34] <pbnjoe> bye everyone
[05:52:37] <useless> later
[05:52:44] <kobach> have fun
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[05:53:44] <useless> damn it, now I want bacon
[05:54:09] * SirFinkus is eating a bacon egg and cheese sandwich
[05:54:13] <SirFinkus> home made of course
[05:54:16] <kobach> i had jowl for lunch and chorizo for dinner
[05:54:34] <kobach> i can feel it, in my heart
[05:55:15] <useless> that tightness you feel in your chest is just the pigs spirit, giving you a happy hug
[05:55:20] <juggs> jowl is cheek right?
[05:55:21] <kobach> LOL
[05:55:24] <kobach> yes juggs
[05:55:46] <juggs> thanks - don't see that cut here
[05:56:02] <kobach> its glorious
[05:56:06] <useless> one pf the best parts, aside from the belly
[05:56:22] <kobach> ^
[05:56:23] <useless> one of
[05:56:25] <SirFinkus> I don't thing I've had it, but it sounds like it might be good
[05:57:09] <useless> the more a muscle gets worked, the more flavor it gets
[05:57:25] <kobach> best part is its cheaper than bacon
[05:57:28] <kobach> lol
[05:57:29] <useless> since pigs just eat all the time, it gets worked a lot
[05:58:01] <kobach> i love pigs
[05:58:12] <juggs> my idle search-fu tells me it mostly gets dumped into sausages here rather than sold as a cut. Belly is damned tasty.
[05:58:37] <kobach> go to your local hog farmer or butcher and ask for some jowl
[05:58:47] <SirFinkus> you know what is also delicious? pastrami
[05:58:51] <kobach> oh god
[05:58:56] <swiss> i'm not a fan of pastrami
[05:59:00] <kobach> im more of a pepperoni fan
[05:59:06] <kobach> and salami
[05:59:15] <swiss> i don't really like any of the bologna/salami type meats
[05:59:21] <kobach> oh man
[05:59:23] <swiss> pepperoni is only good on pizza to me
[05:59:24] <SirFinkus> don't like pepperoni, but salami is delcious
[05:59:28] <SirFinkus> it has to be good though
[05:59:36] <SirFinkus> the cheap stuff tastes like chemicals
[05:59:44] <kobach> i dont eat cheap food
[05:59:54] <Cactus> delicious chemicals
[06:00:02] <kobach> i should have picked up some sweet bologna
[06:00:15] <useless> iberico ham. mmmmm
[06:01:34] <kobach> lol
[06:02:04] <kobach> im going to have to pick up some bologna here tommorow yet
[06:02:09] <swiss> SirFinkus: do you have "The Hat" near you?
[06:02:17] <kobach> always good for breakfast
[06:02:22] <kobach> fried bologna and cheese
[06:02:32] <SirFinkus> swiss, not sure what you mean, so I guess not
[06:02:33] <swiss> kobach: my dad likes doing the whole meats and cheses thing
[06:02:45] <kobach> i dont even need cheese
[06:02:51] <kobach> fried bologna is a meal itself
[06:02:57] <swiss> SirFinkus: http://www.thehat.com
[06:03:00] <kobach> arkansas roundsteak
[06:03:11] <SirFinkus> oh, no
[06:03:16] <swiss> the only thing i miss about arkansas is the steak
[06:03:22] <swiss> literally the only thing
[06:03:30] <kobach> yea theres nothing to miss about arkansas
[06:03:35] <Khyber> ^
[06:03:35] <useless> ^^
[06:03:52] <SirFinkus> there's a good gyro place near by though, and a pub that makes their own sausage
[06:04:32] <kobach> one of the nearby places i go to makes their own sausage
[06:04:36] <kobach> 46 different types of them
[06:04:37] <swiss> Arkansas is prob where i've had my best steaks though
[06:04:52] <kobach> not really a pub though, they do serve alcohol
[06:04:54] <SirFinkus> they also brew their own bear, and cook the sausage in it
[06:04:57] <juggs> kobach, I moved about 5 months ago and have yet to find a good butcher or farm outlet.
[06:05:05] <kobach> juggs where u at
[06:05:24] <swiss> he's somewhere that is allowed to own cool cars
[06:05:27] <kobach> are you in the US
[06:05:28] <kobach> ?
[06:05:39] <swiss> i think he might be Australia
[06:05:43] <kobach> ahh shit
[06:05:45] <kobach> cant helpem there
[06:05:48] <kobach> i have good site for the US
[06:05:52] <kobach> localharvest.org
[06:06:04] <swiss> i have this place... simi green acres
[06:06:08] <swiss> great great food
[06:06:11] <kobach> not always the most up to date but its a start
[06:06:13] <juggs> SouthEast UK. Culinary elite we are not.
[06:06:17] <kobach> oh lord lol
[06:06:24] <useless> haha
[06:06:24] <swiss> i don't buy the raw steak, too expensive for me
[06:06:29] <swiss> but they do a lunch thing
[06:06:30] <swiss> sogud
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[06:06:53] <kobach> im not much of a red meat eater, although i do enjoy me a good burger from time to time, id rather have a pork burger
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[06:07:03] <kobach> but theres nothing like a good beef burger
[06:07:09] <kobach> (grass fed)
[06:08:07] <swiss> sometimes
[06:08:15] <swiss> it depends on my mood
[06:08:16] <kobach> especially when you make it yourself and mix in onion, cheese, garlic, etc
[06:08:26] <swiss> i love a great marbled rib eye
[06:08:34] <kobach> mmmmm
[06:08:40] <SirFinkus> I'll be honest, 5 guys is my favorite burger
[06:08:42] <juggs> The UK still seems to be hung up on some decade old fad that ~any~ and ~all~ fat is bad. So the available cuts are all super lean loin chops etc. Fine as far as they go, but damned insipid when it comes to flavour.
[06:08:45] <kobach> (i also prefer pork steak)
[06:08:48] <SirFinkus> I've done the fancy ones too
[06:08:51] <kobach> i dont do chains
[06:09:19] <kobach> anyway, i need to sleep soon
[06:09:33] <swiss> juggs: yes, but you could go across the channel and take a train to get good food
[06:09:35] <kobach> cya tommorow
[06:09:43] <swiss> SirFinkus: i don't like 5 guys
[06:09:51] <swiss> their burger just isn't my style
[06:09:59] <swiss> their meat is decent
[06:10:02] <SirFinkus> fair enough, I'm not religious about it
[06:10:16] <swiss> just... i think it's the density/thickness i don't like
[06:10:20] <swiss> more of an in-and-out guy
[06:10:37] <SirFinkus> we don't have in-and-outs around here, so I can't compare
[06:12:21] <juggs> swiss: I'm more inclined to emigrate permanently than travel hundreds of miles to find decent food.
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[06:12:57] <swiss> juggs: food is expensive over there too
[06:13:04] <swiss> i don't think i had any good steaks in europe
[06:13:22] <Khyber> Finkus likes 5 guys in his mouth :D
[06:13:36] <Khyber> I'll take What A Burger, TYVM
[06:14:04] <swiss> Khyber: i enjoyed that, had it for the first time last summer
[06:14:21] <Khyber> That's one of the few things my home state does right
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[06:14:46] <Khyber> Eat at the original in Corpus Christ, overlooking the Gulf of Mexico. Sitting atop the second story of the joint on the upper deck patio
[06:14:52] <Khyber> eating your burger and fries
[06:15:02] <swiss> I ate it in San Antonio and outside of Dallas
[06:15:05] <SirFinkus> it's true Khyber, I'm not ashamed
[06:15:30] <Khyber> Let's make that 6 guys *unzips pants*
[06:16:07] <Khyber> Where outside of Dallas? I was born outside of Dalas
[06:17:04] <swiss> idk where
[06:17:12] <swiss> i was driving from the airport to Red Oak I think
[06:17:15] <swiss> oh wait
[06:17:19] <swiss> no, this was near Houston
[06:17:24] <swiss> i really hate Houston
[06:17:25] <Khyber> ahh
[06:17:32] <Khyber> me to
[06:17:34] <Khyber> smoggy as fuck
[06:17:39] <swiss> that's not why
[06:17:41] <Khyber> too many fags not enough decent gays
[06:17:47] <Khyber> humid and oppresive
[06:17:52] <swiss> humid
[06:18:05] <swiss> smelly
[06:18:11] <swiss> not even smog smelly. Just smelly
[06:18:12] <Khyber> yea it fucking stinks for sure
[06:18:26] <Khyber> but it's surrounded by cattle lands for the most part
[06:18:43] <Khyber> so no matter which way the wind blows, bullshit is in the air
[06:19:38] <swiss> yeah
[06:19:43] <swiss> i don't like the people either
[06:19:46] <SirFinkus> anyway, if anyone's drinking, toast to my Uncle. He was an analog circuit engineer who manufactured rubidium frequency standards and other fun stuff. He died today after a brutally short battle with lymphoma.
[06:19:59] <swiss> bummer
[06:20:05] <robind> sorry for your loss. losing a family member is hard.
[06:20:07] <SirFinkus> yeah, it sucks
[06:20:12] <swiss> lived a cool life it sounds like
[06:20:16] <swiss> did useful stuff
[06:20:30] <SirFinkus> we were pretty close too
[06:20:54] <SirFinkus> maybe beta killed him
[06:21:01] <robind> lol!
[06:22:09] <SirFinkus> he worked for Fluke for a while, and he's done a lot of hush hush gvt contracts
[06:22:43] <robind> oh that's cool
[06:22:46] <robind> Fluke is rad
[06:27:43] <SirFinkus> yeah, it's pretty neat using cable testers and stuff he had a hand in designing
[06:30:01] <juggs> swiss, food is expensive where? I didn't mention a destination for my emigration. I don't mind paying over the odds for "rare" cuts of meat, I just can't find any outlets.
[06:30:11] <swiss> Europe in general
[06:30:18] <swiss> compared to subsidized america
[06:31:08] <juggs> well farming is subsidised in the EU too through the CAP (Common Agricultural Policy)
[06:31:25] <swiss> i did Germany and Switzerland
[06:31:45] <swiss> both were up there compared to US prices
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[06:35:22] <juggs> Hmm.. Germany is a federation of states rather than a single country so it's dependant where you were within Germany. As for Switzerland - they are not EU and seem to exist in some weird finance driven bubble. They are not exactly typical european countries if such a thing even exists.
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[07:09:46] <thephred> Thanks for all the hard work all
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[07:36:20] <alberto> sup girls and boys and martians!
[07:36:24] <alberto> :)
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[07:38:11] <Popeidol> which of us is which?
[07:38:47] <alberto> im superman
[07:38:59] <alberto> or batman or anything what people needs me to be
[07:39:02] <alberto> :D
[07:39:39] <Popeidol> you are the hero soylent deserves, but not the one it needs.
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[07:40:42] <Popeidol> ...
[07:41:01] <Popeidol> barrabas quitting right after I Said that is a little awkward
[07:41:20] <LaminatorX> How long was he here?
[07:41:35] <alberto> who-s Barrabas
[07:41:36] <juggs> or you are reading too much into the coincidence Popeidol
[07:41:37] <Popeidol> maybe two hours?
[07:41:53] <alberto> that bible dude who gets saved bcz Jesus was about to get kill_
[07:41:56] <alberto> ?
[07:42:08] <Popeidol> juggs: I'm precariously attaching myself to the excitement that's been going on, in any way I can
[07:42:30] * alberto likes SoyLetNews Drama, a new Netflix serie!
[07:42:37] <juggs> alberto, different spelling
[07:42:46] <alberto> like house of Cards but for Geeks
[07:42:56] <LaminatorX> Ooh, can I be played by Miguel Ferrar?
[07:43:40] <juggs> Popeidol, the political drama is compelling.
[07:43:50] <alberto> sorry i just installed my hackintosh and my keyboard doesnt work as must, also im latin/spanish so i dont have a single !@# working till i figure how to fix this
[07:44:19] <alberto> LaminatorX, well my last name is Ferrer
[07:44:23] <alberto> so i can do your role lolz
[07:45:29] <juggs> LaminatorX, no. You will be played by whoever NCommander sees it is fit you be played by. And you will like it. :D
[07:45:44] * juggs stirs pot
[07:46:01] <Popeidol> I think I'll be played by will smith.
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[07:47:24] <Popeidol> this is irc, so none of you can claim he doesn't look like me
[07:47:26] <Popeidol> you have NO IDEA
[07:48:02] <NCommander> alberto, I committed a FOX and executed the series after two episodes
[07:48:05] <NCommander> :-)
[07:48:44] <alberto> lol
[07:48:55] <Popeidol> didn't we already make a series about it?
[07:48:58] <Popeidol> http://en.wikipedia.org
[07:49:39] <alberto> NCommander, is SoyLentNews using NGINX to avoid some insecure stuff related to Apache 1.3?
[07:50:07] <juggs> I will be played by Natalie Portman.
[07:50:57] <NCommander> alberto, nope :-)
[07:51:02] <NCommander> alberto, it is behind varnish though
[07:51:11] <alberto> Cant reboot my machine because it wont boot again lol
[07:51:42] <alberto> but i want to see @what happens@ what a dilema
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[07:55:27] <juggs> This whole thing is like Dallas / Dynasty. Who shot JR? NCommander sell bumper stickers... "Who shot Barrabas?"
[07:56:02] <juggs> No wait - it was all a dream
[07:56:44] <alberto> hahahaha
[07:57:08] <alberto> no big project has a simple story behind of love and crap like that
[07:57:18] <alberto> is all a jungle fight
[07:58:58] <arti> alberto: why won't it boot again?
[07:59:15] <alberto> i installed a Hackintosh
[07:59:18] <arti> aaah
[07:59:33] * arti has one in a VM
[07:59:35] <Popeidol> ..how did you get it to boot this time?
[07:59:46] <arti> probably updated something
[07:59:47] <alberto> for some WEIRD reason i used legacy and GraphicsEnabler OFF bcz it wont install
[07:59:52] <alberto> nono
[08:00:01] <alberto> is something related to kext and drivers
[08:00:07] <alberto> drivers on mac are crap
[08:00:11] <alberto> :p
[08:00:28] <alberto> first of all you need your DSDT tables so your hardware can work
[08:00:28] <arti> and this is why i like the snapshots "oops"
[08:00:44] <juggs> alberto, for sure - once one is out of the trenches management is a brutal knife only server.
[08:00:46] <alberto> well i can install anything under 10 mins
[08:01:02] <arti> still, it's a chore
[08:01:03] <alberto> *any OS(
[08:01:09] <alberto> wanted to try Mac OS
[08:01:14] <arti> wait, any os?
[08:01:14] <alberto> im living on Mexico
[08:01:26] <arti> sounds like a challenge
[08:01:30] <alberto> so cant buy a Mac here
[08:01:49] <arti> they don't sell them there, or are the astronimically priced there?
[08:01:52] <alberto> fun stuff is i finished my LFS 2 days ago and was smooth lol
[08:02:00] <alberto> too expensive
[08:02:07] <arti> s/astronimically/astronomically/
[08:02:07] <SedBot> <arti> they don't sell them there, or are the astronomically priced there?
[08:02:13] <alberto> its the money of 5 months of salary
[08:02:31] <alberto> dont correct your self, my english is just crap lol
[08:02:33] <arti> how has the performance been there?
[08:02:40] <alberto> i learned reading and with TV :D
[08:02:48] <alberto> insane
[08:02:59] <alberto> once i managed to get it working is like 5 secs boot
[08:03:06] <arti> tv is good for that, music and shows are key
[08:03:09] <alberto> i got a 120 GB SSD and 32 GB of ram
[08:03:14] <arti> noice
[08:03:21] <alberto> a Intel 3820
[08:03:26] <alberto> and a raid of 6 TB
[08:03:28] <juggs> alberto, your english is fine.
[08:03:29] <alberto> for backups
[08:03:30] <alberto> etc
[08:03:36] <arti> juggs: agreed
[08:03:52] <alberto> maybe the problem is related to ATI
[08:04:05] <alberto> i did manage to debug this crap and i saw a RadeonSensors error
[08:04:13] <arti> i have a work issued laptop, but the compiles take ages on that
[08:04:13] <alberto> can/t tell yet until i reboot
[08:04:24] <arti> so i've had better luck with the vm lol
[08:04:52] * arti shares a pelon peloneta
[08:04:53] <LaminatorX> Heading to bed now. If anybody submits a story tonight, the've got reeeeallly good odds of getting on the main page sometime tomorrow. Just sayin. G'night all.
[08:05:01] * arti salutes
[08:05:29] * LaminatorX returns it.
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[08:05:32] <alberto> but the only thing i cant fix is my sound and keyboard
[08:05:41] <alberto> see you LaminatorX
[08:06:04] <arti> only weirdness i've got on mine is the mouse cursor, has some green edges heh
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[08:06:33] <alberto> haha
[08:06:42] <alberto> whats your poison *OS choise(
[08:06:56] <alberto> (damn this keyboard!)
[08:07:03] <arti> my daily driver is windows 7
[08:07:21] <alberto> love it is fast when you tune it
[08:07:30] <arti> i don't really dig the mac keyboard workflow for adobe products
[08:07:31] <alberto> There is no bad OS, just bad users.
[08:07:58] <arti> all the development i do is on debian though
[08:08:36] <alberto> i used debian when was a hard to install distro
[08:08:49] <arti> i cut my teeth on freebsd
[08:08:57] <alberto> quit that long time ago because most of the distros we used are RHEL based
[08:08:58] <arti> apt is a godsend
[08:09:15] <alberto> tried FreeBSD, didnt like ports lol
[08:09:31] <alberto> wanted to try Net or Open but are too @do it on console@
[08:09:47] <juggs> arti++ apt aptitude apt-get
[08:09:47] <Leela> karma - arti: 31
[08:09:49] <arti> the rolling release nature makes it interesting to keep uptodate
[08:09:50] <alberto> then i used OpenSolaris, i like that but Oracle put it down
[08:10:13] <arti> i've got a sun ultrasparc under the desk
[08:10:22] <arti> dig the keyboard
[08:10:57] <arti> what about you? what's your poison?
[08:11:00] <ar> apt needs three settings to be changed from defaults to be usable: APT::Install-Recommends "0"; APT::Install-Suggests "0"; Acquire::PDiffs "false";
[08:11:02] <alberto> 01:10:35 up 848 days, 21:33, 1 user, load average: 0.61, 0.23, 0.13
[08:11:05] <alberto> My CentOS
[08:11:06] <alberto> >D
[08:11:32] <alberto> CentOS mostly, and LFS for experiments (Linux from Scratch)
[08:11:57] <ar> and then there's still the issue of not being able to disable debian packages trying to start daemons after they're installed. disabling triggers does this, but also disables a lot of actually useful stuff
[08:12:03] <arti> that's some serious uptime
[08:12:24] <arti> ar, is there some temporary flag?
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[08:12:41] <ar> alberto: there were several local root exploits in the last 2-3 years. keeping uptime for the sake of keeping uptime isn't a good idea
[08:12:50] <arti> ar: he could patch on the fly
[08:12:55] <drac> yeah, kernel patches?
[08:13:07] <arti> you can do those too
[08:13:38] <alberto> thats my proxy
[08:13:43] <ar> arti: if you're running oracle linux, yes.
[08:13:49] <alberto> CentOS 4 or 5
[08:13:52] <alberto> cant remember
[08:14:03] <arti> drac: http://korovamilky.tumblr.com
[08:14:06] <ar> (because they bought the company developing the tool and closed-sourced it)
[08:14:23] <arti> ar: smart
[08:14:26] <alberto> ar There is no users on that machine with access to console
[08:14:33] <ar> arti: kexec doesn't preserve uptime or runnning processes
[08:14:50] <ar> alberto: and are you 100% sure the services running there aren't exploitable?
[08:14:58] <alberto> yes sir
[08:15:09] <alberto> valhalla.barrahome.org you can try your self
[08:15:13] <alberto> :)
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[08:15:38] <arti> ar: what about using ksplice?
[08:15:53] <alberto> Depends of the task
[08:15:55] * juggs falls off the mortal coil while waiting for sys engineers to agree.
[08:16:05] <ar> arti: 081405 | ar | (because they bought the company developing the tool and closed-sourced it)
[08:16:11] <arti> bleh doesn't support centos
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[08:16:43] <arti> evening pbnjoe
[08:17:03] <pbnjoe> hey arti
[08:17:16] * arti greets joe with some sparring moves
[08:17:19] <alberto> fun fact is
[08:17:22] <alberto> my machine died
[08:17:26] <alberto> that server
[08:17:27] <alberto> died
[08:17:33] <alberto> 4 times in a day
[08:17:40] <alberto> 4 years ago due HD failure
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[08:17:52] <alberto> if not bcz that it will be running for 4 years lolz
[08:17:55] <arti> i've had one do that... back when those capacitors were going around with the screwed up formula, so they'd burst after a few years
[08:18:12] * pbnjoe bobs and weaves
[08:18:25] <alberto> pbnjoe, where are the boobs?!?!?!?!
[08:18:35] <alberto> waving boobs isnt a good idea
[08:18:36] <alberto> lol
[08:18:42] <ar> yesterday i replaced drives in my desktop without powering down
[08:18:47] <pbnjoe> aw, I don't have autovoice :\
[08:18:53] <pbnjoe> lost my badge
[08:19:01] <alberto> ar, hotswap?
[08:19:06] <pbnjoe> why are you screaming to me for boobs? I don't have any :P
[08:19:34] <ar> alberto: the sata controller is hotswap capable, but i don't have a hotswap backplane
[08:19:52] <ar> well, not exactly yesterday - it's still running: 452G resilvered, 93.54% done
[08:20:47] <alberto> so i can remove any sata from my computer without fucking my uptime?!
[08:21:12] <Popeidol> alberto: as long as you dont pull the OS drive, you'll be fine
[08:21:20] <alberto> jummm
[08:21:23] <ar> alberto: as long as the controller is AHCI
[08:21:28] * alberto experimenting this right now
[08:21:54] <ar> Popeidol: not exactly correct. the drives that were in the machine when i booted it aren't there anymore
[08:22:23] <Popeidol> ar: Ah, you are running a more interesting setup than I realised
[08:22:37] <ar> Popeidol: a mirror of drives
[08:22:53] <Popeidol> mirroring is a godsend
[08:23:04] <ar> Popeidol: i could only replace one at a time, but it's going good
[08:23:43] <Popeidol> ar: as long as you allow rebuild time, you'll be just fine
[08:24:44] <Leela> [SoylentNews] - Cosmos Reboots March 9th - http://sylnt.us - pale-blue-dot
[08:25:48] <alberto> is time to reboot this baby and see if its fixed
[08:26:18] <alberto> see you all in the other side! lol
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[08:49:29] <Alberto> Lol
[08:49:33] <arti> welcome back
[08:49:42] <Alberto> Igual fked my computer
[08:49:57] <arti> well it was about 20 minutes?
[08:50:00] <arti> reinstall it?
[08:50:03] <Alberto> Using my Phone to be here
[08:50:20] <arti> life line
[08:50:32] <Alberto> Dat Mac died
[08:50:41] <arti> :(
[08:50:46] <Alberto> Installing Windows now
[08:51:12] <arti> it'll do
[08:51:17] <nobbis> anyone know the current number of users ?
[08:51:23] <Alberto> Using my old friend Motorola atrix with a lapdock
[08:51:37] <arti> 3678
[08:52:20] <Alberto> We have no Mr Troll yet???
[08:52:38] <arti> xlefay usually handles them pretty well
[08:52:46] <arti> ethanol fueled usually drops by
[08:52:56] <Alberto> 76%
[08:54:05] <Alberto> Cant see my raid jum
[08:54:27] <Alberto> Not a good day for experiments
[08:54:59] <arti> we all have those days, at least you're not out any work
[08:55:04] <crutchy> hi arti
[08:55:10] <arti> g'day
[08:55:19] <arti> how goes it crutchy :)
[08:55:30] <crutchy> mm okay
[08:55:34] <crutchy> you?
[08:55:38] <arti> just got some code working
[08:55:39] <Alberto> Installation took 7minutes
[08:55:52] <crutchy> ooh that's good
[08:56:04] <Alberto> Sup
[08:56:06] <crutchy> anything juicy?
[08:56:27] <nobbis> thanks arti
[08:56:27] <arti> yeah, it's a cms, just made stuff that allows dynamic population of pages, and page elements.
[08:56:36] <crutchy> mkay.
[08:56:44] * arti has slideshows, sliders, dropdowns, and checkboxes
[08:56:52] <crutchy> did a bit of code at work today. just numbercrunching stuff
[08:56:56] <Alberto> Lang?
[08:57:03] <arti> everyone's favorite: php
[08:57:13] <Alberto> Great
[08:57:15] <crutchy> lol... and no globals
[08:57:18] <crutchy> :-P
[08:57:20] <Alberto> Mvc?
[08:57:24] <arti> the pages are made up of any of those elements
[08:57:28] <arti> yes, mvc.
[08:57:42] <Alberto> Crud?
[08:58:00] <arti> for those areas, yes. just finished the dropdowns
[08:58:08] <crutchy> mvc?
[08:58:17] <crutchy> not heard of that one
[08:58:18] <arti> model, view, controller
[08:58:34] <crutchy> done some cms work before but probably basic compared to most
[08:58:37] <crutchy> ahh
[08:58:58] <arti> well, it began with much simpler things in mind and it's grown
[08:59:03] <crutchy> coded my own wiki system @ work :-)
[08:59:25] <crutchy> still refining things but its working pretty well
[08:59:31] <arti> nice, you get a better understanding of things that way
[09:00:11] <crutchy> tried to keep it simple. it also integrates with all the other intranet shit
[09:00:13] <arti> i need to get this working a little better, if i can get it done my tomorrow is open
[09:00:29] <crutchy> long weekend here woohoo!
[09:00:37] <Alberto> Can we see arti!?
[09:01:04] <arti> i don't have it on a staging server yet
[09:01:22] <crutchy> he can show you but he'll have to kill you :-P
[09:01:25] <arti> brb smoke
[09:01:49] <crutchy> hi alberto
[09:02:18] <Alberto> Sup crutchy
[09:02:32] <crutchy> you a programming geek too?
[09:03:01] <Alberto> Kind off
[09:03:20] <crutchy> i think it must almost be a prerequisite in this place
[09:03:23] <Alberto> Im a curious person
[09:03:34] <crutchy> everyone's smarter than me though :-P
[09:03:47] <crutchy> what languages you like?
[09:04:04] <crutchy> or language even
[09:04:28] <Alberto> P, p, p
[09:04:35] <Alberto> Asm
[09:04:56] <crutchy> wow
[09:04:56] <Alberto> C, cplus
[09:05:02] <Alberto> And others
[09:05:13] <Alberto> Mosrly related to cracking
[09:05:26] <crutchy> heard of softice?
[09:05:30] <crutchy> i'm guessing so
[09:05:57] <crutchy> that's about the only thing i know of cracking :-P
[09:05:58] <Alberto> Ye
[09:06:07] <Alberto> I use olly dbg
[09:06:17] <Alberto> Hahaha
[09:06:41] <Alberto> And ida for advanced stuff
[09:06:58] <Alberto> Let me move to my computer
[09:07:08] <Alberto> Im at my Phone
[09:07:58] <crutchy> *googling ollydbg*
[09:08:00] <arti> memory hacking is pretty fun
[09:08:17] <crutchy> kinda looks a bit like the delphi debugger
[09:08:43] <arti> i usually use cheatengine for that though
[09:08:55] <crutchy> astalavista.box.sk
[09:08:56] <crutchy> :-P
[09:09:07] <crutchy> i couldn't crack a program to save my life
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[09:10:37] <arti> it's a whole different art
[09:11:14] <crutchy> yeah. i read up a bit on the theory but it never really caught me
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[09:11:40] <arti> been slowly chugging through it
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[09:11:55] <arti> neat how objects are stored in memory
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[09:12:05] <crutchy> i probably don't use enough programs that require cracking
[09:12:17] <arti> well, that's not the only use for it
[09:12:17] <crutchy> and i don't think i would be motivated enough to crack for others
[09:12:45] <crutchy> probably good for making programs more effificient too i guess
[09:13:01] <crutchy> and checking for security loopholes
[09:13:10] <arti> think of it this way, what about being able to extend something
[09:13:23] <crutchy> like patching?
[09:13:26] <arti> say hook net output
[09:13:37] <crutchy> yeah i guess
[09:13:50] <crutchy> *tries to think of an example*
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[09:14:06] <Alberto> i'm back
[09:14:13] <crutchy> hey alberto
[09:14:13] <Alberto> with my keyboard working as must be
[09:14:14] <Alberto> lol
[09:14:25] <crutchy> hahaha yeah i hate touch screens
[09:14:25] <Alberto> where we was
[09:14:41] <Alberto> oh cracking
[09:14:46] <Alberto> is easy
[09:14:47] <Alberto> rly
[09:14:51] <crutchy> i'm learning about what cracking can be used for
[09:14:58] <Alberto> mostly you need to know how to attack and app
[09:15:06] <Alberto> want to get a fast and simple lesson?! :P
[09:15:19] <arti> crutchy: you're learning what memory hacking can be used for
[09:15:38] <crutchy> i heard of flipping jump statements :p
[09:15:45] <crutchy> memory hacking yeah
[09:15:59] <Alberto> learn basic asm instructions
[09:16:08] <Alberto> is quite easy
[09:16:15] <arti> for games, you can pick apart stuff, instead of something damaging, you can have it heal
[09:16:21] <crutchy> lol
[09:16:31] <crutchy> that would be weird :-P
[09:16:38] <Alberto> a great example of memory hacking is me pissing of all my friends on candy crush at facebook
[09:16:44] <Alberto> i got 1billing points on each level
[09:16:45] <Alberto> LOL
[09:16:52] <crutchy> i remember reading "the art of assembly" when i was a teenager
[09:17:04] <crutchy> it was a web page book
[09:17:08] <arti> i've got a few books, turbo assembler and whatnot
[09:17:16] <crutchy> i printed the whole thing and put it in a binder :-P
[09:17:17] <Alberto> geez i feel old
[09:17:21] <Alberto> i did basic
[09:17:25] <Alberto> on DOS 3.33
[09:17:32] <arti> simpler times
[09:17:36] <Alberto> and pascal
[09:17:37] <Alberto> yeah
[09:17:48] <Alberto> i still like to play gorilla.bas lol
[09:17:52] <arti> hahaha
[09:17:54] <crutchy> turbo pascal was my introduction to programming in high school
[09:17:57] <Alberto> and the old and good nibbles
[09:18:19] <arti> pascal seems archaic, i've been ruined by scripting languages
[09:18:45] <crutchy> i still like going to delphi for some things
[09:18:50] <crutchy> it's clean and quick
[09:18:51] <arti> oh, it's a guilty pleasure
[09:19:06] <Alberto> i never learned delphi
[09:19:10] <Alberto> in fact i hate it lol
[09:19:13] <Alberto> damn components
[09:19:16] <arti> i've been tinkering with c#, it's a pretty nice language
[09:19:37] <crutchy> i only use standard components, and occasionally ado
[09:19:38] <Alberto> C# is a easy language to learn
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[09:19:50] <arti> greetings MrBluze
[09:19:53] <crutchy> hey mrbluze
[09:20:10] <crutchy> any word on the new job?
[09:20:24] <crutchy> after that strange phone interview
[09:21:04] <crutchy> haha BaconServ
[09:21:23] <crutchy> invokes images of a doorman with a big plate of bacon
[09:21:41] <crutchy> or a doorman made of bacon
[09:21:46] <Alberto> i want a sexy hostname
[09:21:56] <arti> .sexy?
[09:22:17] <Alberto> yeah a vhost
[09:22:23] <arti> i was thinking tld
[09:22:28] <Alberto> lol
[09:22:36] <crutchy> they're overrated
[09:22:44] <crutchy> so are tld's :-P
[09:23:25] <crutchy> it's called ghost or something isn't it arti?
[09:23:32] <crutchy> something to do with ghosting or whatnot
[09:24:17] <arti> ghosting is when you're on someone's name, no?
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[09:24:27] <crutchy> i tried to get my little irc bot to do something smarterer than just logging to a file but i lost interest pretty quickly. might get back into it one day
[09:24:33] <Alberto> well i want a overrated vhost :(
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[09:24:46] <arti> crutchy: which language?
[09:24:51] <Alberto> NCommander, can i link a server here?
[09:24:52] <crutchy> bash
[09:24:57] <Alberto> NCommander, 24/7
[09:25:14] <NCommander> Alberto, er, talk to the IRC guys. paging xlefry and Landon
[09:25:34] <crutchy> xlefay! wake up!
[09:25:36] <Alberto> thats a predefined answer or ur alive here lol?
[09:25:37] <Alberto> XD
[09:25:38] <arti> bash, the bash that sucks if you want to use variables or deal with spaces?
[09:25:41] <Alberto> Landon, are you there? :D
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[09:26:07] <AlbertoHasVhost> MUHAHAHAHA
[09:26:19] <crutchy> yeah if you try to think of it like a normal programming language you end up with a big dent in your head from bashing it into a wall
[09:26:39] <arti> not to knock bash, but i usually get deep enough into it to regret not doing it in something else
[09:26:49] <arti> "feeeeeeek"
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[09:27:14] <crutchy> its powerful and you can do some trippy shit with very few lines of code
[09:27:27] <crutchy> lol
[09:27:32] <arti> no doubt, and some people like writing gui apps with asm
[09:27:40] <crutchy> hahaha yeah
[09:27:48] <crutchy> that would be a few more lines of code i imagine
[09:28:01] <arti> pretty crazy seeing windows api handled that way
[09:28:01] <Alberto> Gui apps?
[09:28:02] <Alberto> lol
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[09:28:28] <Alberto> arti, http://www.menuetos.org
[09:28:31] <crutchy> i've seen a few forms created with api calls rather than the usual tform in delphi
[09:28:32] <MrBluze> hi all
[09:28:34] <arti> i think the next language i'm going to dive into will be type safe
[09:28:49] <crutchy> definitely pascal then :-)
[09:29:11] * arti eyes haskell
[09:29:12] <crutchy> except for pointers
[09:29:25] <crutchy> of course
[09:29:39] <arti> the syntax is a bit terse
[09:29:41] <Alberto> what about Go?
[09:29:56] <crutchy> is haskell kinda like matlab?
[09:30:03] <arti> i'm unfamiliar with matlab
[09:30:08] <arti> is that functional?
[09:30:13] <Alberto> no
[09:30:15] <crutchy> yeah, mostly
[09:30:29] <Alberto> crutchy, MatLab isn't only for maths?
[09:30:38] <MrBluze> haskell is great, except no one will run your code lol
[09:30:46] <crutchy> no, but it's not oop or anything is it?
[09:30:56] <arti> MrBluze: i dig the speed
[09:31:02] <crutchy> i only ever used basic functional programming in matlab
[09:31:08] <arti> it's like C but you get all this goodness baked in
[09:31:09] <hka> matlab got loads of nice toolboxes
[09:31:31] <arti> i really dig the threading too
[09:31:39] <crutchy> hka: ahh... i only used basic matlab m file stuff
[09:31:56] <crutchy> i heard about simulink but never got into it
[09:32:07] <arti> crtuchy: here, this is right up your alley http://www.haskell.org
[09:32:12] <crutchy> goodness = libraries?
[09:32:37] <arti> if i wanted libraries i'd go the perl route
[09:32:38] <crutchy> i dunno whether i really want to roll my own irc bot though :-P
[09:32:44] <hka> crutchy: it has rather nice stuff for image processing
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[09:33:00] <crutchy> irc bot stuff is a good excuse to escape from real work :[)
[09:33:13] <arti> i tend to deviate towards UI stuff
[09:33:19] <arti> "whoa, canvas is awesome"
[09:33:55] <Alberto> import System.IO
[09:33:55] <Alberto> <-- Java + C#
[09:33:58] <Alberto> lol
[09:34:08] <crutchy> i have enough trouble keeping focused on a project... probably only really started mucking around in it cos xlefay was after a logging bot
[09:34:16] <arti> most of the guys i work with are java guys
[09:34:28] <Alberto> Java is bad for health
[09:34:45] <arti> it can get pretty abstract
[09:34:51] <crutchy> and foobar got me onto the ii website thing
[09:35:02] <arti> stick with it then
[09:35:04] <crutchy> java--
[09:35:04] <Leela> karma - java: -1
[09:35:14] <Alberto> arti, Knock, knock.
[09:35:21] <arti> whose there?
[09:35:27] <crutchy> i like my php stuff mostly
[09:35:34] <Alberto> very very very long pause..
[09:35:36] <Alberto> JAVA
[09:35:38] <Alberto> lol
[09:35:38] <crutchy> warts and all
[09:35:40] <arti> hahaha
[09:35:43] <crutchy> s/warts/globals
[09:35:43] * SedBot tosses a / to cretchy
[09:35:48] <crutchy> s/warts/globals/
[09:35:49] <hka> java is about the only programming language taught at universities to none computer educations here:(
[09:35:52] <arti> crutchy: yeah i dig it, too.
[09:35:52] <SedBot> <crotchy> globals and all
[09:36:10] <crutchy> pft.. foobar hasn't put in auto trailing / yet :-P
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[09:36:47] <crutchy> hahaha there's that random vowel replacement
[09:37:11] <crutchy> not good for my nick
[09:37:34] * MrBluze grins
[09:37:49] <crutchy> whatcha up to mrbluze?
[09:38:02] <Alberto> arti what do you use as IDE?
[09:38:10] <crutchy> you got long weekend?
[09:38:14] <crutchy> gedit ftw!
[09:38:18] <MrBluze> im working tomorrow
[09:38:19] <arti> notepad++, haven't made the transition over to sublime text just yet
[09:38:26] <crutchy> bummer
[09:38:27] <Alberto> crutchy, no no, seriously
[09:38:30] <MrBluze> yeah .. u?
[09:38:37] <Alberto> arti i did crack the latest sublime! :P
[09:38:39] <crutchy> no, really... gedit
[09:38:45] <arti> i just use the beta :)
[09:38:48] <Alberto> the beta version of Sub 3, want it?
[09:38:49] <Alberto> :p
[09:38:50] <MrBluze> buck feta
[09:38:57] <MrBluze> beta--
[09:38:57] <Leela> karma - beta: -13
[09:38:59] <MrBluze> and all that
[09:39:01] <arti> feta cheese :O~
[09:39:09] <crutchy> i got 3 days off
[09:39:19] <MrBluze> lucky bastard
[09:39:26] <MrBluze> i could use a few days off im tired
[09:39:46] <crutchy> you were in that staff biffo a little bit i saw
[09:39:55] <crutchy> not much fun
[09:40:00] <MrBluze> oh yeah
[09:40:06] <MrBluze> i was kinda reading it as i was chomping my breakfast
[09:40:19] <arti> did that include bacon?
[09:40:28] <MrBluze> and when it got to 'there's only room for one of us in this one-horse-town' .. i kinda thought i better say summin
[09:40:37] <FatPhil> Leela: feature request - when someone says "fuck <single word>" you treat that the same way as "<single word>--"
[09:40:40] <MrBluze> yeah bacon flakes with bacon milk, with some bacon-juice
[09:40:57] <arti> hmmm, bacon soap
[09:40:58] <crutchy> the whole 'staff' thing is why i'm happy tinkering but not committing too much (not that i can offer much in the way of skillz anyway)
[09:41:05] <crutchy> bacon_soap++
[09:41:05] <Leela> karma - bacon_soap: 1
[09:41:18] <crutchy> bacon_seasoning++
[09:41:18] <Leela> karma - bacon_seasoning: 12
[09:41:20] * FatPhil has tar soap, it's lovely and smoky
[09:41:28] <MrBluze> i dunno about the staff thing or not, but if u are tinkering, u go to dev
[09:41:34] <crutchy> i have coal soap, but not by choice
[09:41:43] <crutchy> nah actually it's not that bad lately
[09:42:01] <MrBluze> but yeah i dont mind barabbas, i dont mind ncommander
[09:42:20] <MrBluze> but it was pissing me off that i couldn't pin anyone down to talk to them - i didnt know how to contact anyone, it was all just demoralizing for me
[09:42:27] <crutchy> strong personalities always clash sometimes
[09:42:36] <crutchy> yeah that must suck
[09:42:39] <MrBluze> well i exaggerate, but sometimes it was hard
[09:42:52] <arti> MrBluze: well if its anything like a linux channel, for verbose output try prefixing your requests with 'soylent sucks'
[09:43:03] * MrBluze laughs
[09:43:08] <crutchy> i like the irc thing, but i guess that's not always everyone's cup o tea, and can't exchange files etc
[09:43:17] <MrBluze> i should do.. "Hi anyone home? -v"
[09:43:22] <arti> crutchy: it's called dcc
[09:43:24] <Popeidol> crutchy: you can exchange files just fine
[09:43:37] <MrBluze> i dont mind if its irc + something else
[09:43:40] <MrBluze> but it was irc + ten other things
[09:43:51] <crutchy> correction: "i" can't excahnge files cos i'm an irc dumbarse :-P
[09:43:52] <arti> i thought you linux guys liked choice
[09:43:55] <MrBluze> like.. oh.. didnt u read my journal, or.. how come u didnt read the wiki.. or .. it's in the forums u numbscull... etc
[09:43:56] * NCommander is just depressed on this entire mess
[09:43:59] <Popeidol> crutchy: a lot of the oldschool filesharing networks are irc based
[09:44:04] <MrBluze> so :)
[09:44:15] <arti> good ol xdcc bots
[09:44:23] <MrBluze> hi NCommander
[09:44:29] <arti> ratio fservers were sweet too
[09:44:51] <crutchy> hi ncommander
[09:44:56] <MrBluze> but already it's better crutchy i think it's much more workable than before
[09:45:11] <arti> MrBluze: you're just saying that because of your full stomach :P
[09:45:15] <crutchy> doesn't seem much different from where i am but i'm not on the inside
[09:45:17] <MrBluze> mm bacon
[09:45:32] <crutchy> as long as poutine still cops it and bacon rules, i'm good
[09:45:38] <crutchy> poutine--
[09:45:38] <Leela> karma - poutine: -233
[09:45:38] <MrBluze> lol
[09:45:41] <crutchy> bacon++
[09:45:42] <Leela> karma - bacon: 105
[09:45:48] <MrBluze> u should join the dark side crutchy ... your bot skills are needed
[09:45:51] <crutchy> bacon_sundae++
[09:45:51] <Leela> karma - bacon_sundae: 1
[09:46:07] <crutchy> lol i don't have any bot skills
[09:46:18] <crutchy> but thanks for the compliment :-)
[09:46:48] <crutchy> i did a little bash bot but it took me a few hours to cobble together about 20-odd lines of code :-P
[09:47:33] <crutchy> i think xlefay has got a bot too... he mentioned a python one
[09:47:35] <NCommander> I'm waiting for poutine's karma counter to roll over
[09:47:38] <MrBluze> yeah
[09:47:39] <crutchy> i think it's called bottie
[09:47:44] <MrBluze> u should talk to him
[09:47:52] <MrBluze> NCommander: it's a 64 bit long int
[09:47:54] <crutchy> what's the karma type?
[09:47:59] <crutchy> lol
[09:48:02] <Popeidol> MrBluze: don't worry, we'll get there
[09:48:11] <crutchy> we had better get to work then
[09:48:14] <crutchy> poutine--
[09:48:14] <Leela> karma - poutine: -234
[09:48:19] <MrBluze> good on u Popeidol i like that attitude
[09:48:21] <crutchy> poutine--
[09:48:21] <Leela> karma - poutine: -235
[09:48:21] <crutchy> poutine--
[09:48:21] <Leela> karma - poutine: -236
[09:48:21] <MrBluze> putine--
[09:48:22] <Leela> karma - putine: -4
[09:48:22] <crutchy> poutine--
[09:48:22] <Leela> karma - poutine: -237
[09:48:22] <crutchy> poutine--
[09:48:22] <Leela> karma - poutine: -238
[09:48:25] <crutchy> poutine--:-P
[09:48:26] <MrBluze> poutine--
[09:48:26] <Leela> karma - poutine: -239
[09:48:48] <crutchy> phew... hard work.
[09:48:55] <MrBluze> we beat 8 bits
[09:48:57] <FatPhil> poutine-=1<<62
[09:49:08] <crutchy> w've reached erm... 8 bits
[09:49:10] <crutchy> :-P
[09:49:16] <arti> needs a bitshifting operation
[09:49:17] <crutchy> 9 bits
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[09:49:43] <MrBluze> ok so we need to start a group to hack the bot and fix the karma to max negative so it can roll over
[09:49:54] <crutchy> foobarbazbot should write a bot for downing poutine's karma
[09:50:00] <crutchy> ahahaha
[09:50:21] <crutchy> just put a half sec delay so it doesn't flood
[09:50:22] <MrBluze> snap
[09:51:02] <MrBluze> NCommander: reading your post, the ICS trainign thing is the best idea ive read during the time of this project
[09:51:42] <crutchy> communication be damned... more ponies are what we need!
[09:51:44] <MrBluze> im gonna do it this weekend
[09:51:49] <GungnirSniper2> We're going to learn about Ice Cream Sandwich instead of newer Android?
[09:52:09] <crutchy> ooh i like ice cream sandwiches
[09:52:10] <MrBluze> we're gonna serve those apple fanbois a nice icecream sandwich >:)
[09:52:36] <GungnirSniper2> Thank the gods Apple fanbois aren't laming the place up.
[09:53:12] <crutchy> you gotta be a fan of global variables to get anywhere in this joint :-P
[09:53:14] <MrBluze> i think scott adams has been following the progress of this website
[09:54:03] <crutchy> and goto statements
[09:54:04] <NCommander> MrBluze, *nods*, I need to get that in an email
[09:54:18] <crutchy> and marquee html text
[09:55:38] <arti> i think the bot should use ints for the karma
[09:55:41] <Popeidol> scott adams? interesting
[09:55:46] <crutchy> bytes
[09:55:56] <Popeidol> if he took a serious interest that'd be some unexpected publicity
[09:55:57] <MrBluze> http://dilbert.com
[09:56:05] <MrBluze> take a look for yourself lol
[09:57:00] <Popeidol> oh man we're in
[09:57:15] <arti> you guys got coffee mugs :(
[09:57:33] <crutchy> bender:!distribute(coffee-mugs)
[09:58:01] <MrBluze> i love that comic
[09:58:05] <MrBluze> its just like my workplace
[09:58:30] <Alberto> whats the language of the bot?
[09:58:44] <crutchy> my workplace is pretty flat, but there's only about 15 or so in the office
[09:58:45] * arti guesses python
[09:58:58] <crutchy> i like small companies
[09:59:06] <Alberto> i got an youporn addin for that kind of bots
[09:59:13] <Alberto> acsii porn ofc
[09:59:19] <Alberto> ascii*
[09:59:34] <arti> ascii stupid question, get a stupid ansi
[09:59:42] <Popeidol> does asciipr0n.com still exist?
[09:59:49] <Popeidol> ...apparently yes
[09:59:52] <crutchy> bender is xlefay's monster?
[09:59:57] <Alberto> Yes sir
[10:00:50] <crutchy> aw c'mon that's just not fair... *copies "asciipr0n.com"
[10:01:32] <crutchy> you know i only came here for the ascii porn
[10:02:33] <Leela> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Drawing Fire for WhatsApp Purchase - http://sylnt.us - lets-just-trust-facebook
[10:02:55] <crutchy> apt-get moo just isn't enough any more
[10:03:06] <Popeidol> ( .) .)
[10:03:11] * MrBluze walks away sadly ... i thought u liked apt-get moo
[10:03:17] <MrBluze> lol
[10:04:08] <Alberto> reboot time
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[10:06:03] <Alberto> done
[10:06:17] <arti> nice :)
[10:06:37] * Alberto has all working again
[10:07:05] <Alberto> crutchy, so you want 2 learn how to crack?! :D
[10:07:45] <arti> baking soda and some cocaine right?
[10:08:00] <arti> just pat down the bubbles...
[10:08:05] <Alberto> lol
[10:09:01] <Subsentient> Just submitted a story on my horrors with ASM in third party packages the last few days.
[10:09:14] <Subsentient> I'd really, really like to see it out there, it might shame these devs into doing something about it.
[10:09:28] <arti> ASM.js?
[10:09:36] <arti> nm it's late i misread
[10:09:49] <Subsentient> arti: Inline ASM, or otherwise, any asm at all.
[10:09:54] <Subsentient> assembler**
[10:10:00] <arti> keyword being ASS
[10:10:17] <Popeidol> Subsentient: LaminatorX mentioned that the story queue was a bit bare, so any submissions had a good chance of getting through
[10:10:18] <Alberto> __int 3;
[10:10:34] <Subsentient> Popeidol: Goood.
[10:10:41] <Alberto> Subsentient, LaminatorX did a __int 3; on your story
[10:10:58] <Subsentient> Alberto: that is?
[10:11:06] <Alberto> __asm int 3*
[10:11:19] <Subsentient> lol
[10:11:20] <Alberto> breakpoint?
[10:11:21] <arti> debug break?
[10:11:32] <Alberto> :p
[10:11:32] <Popeidol> http://soylentnews.org is interesting
[10:13:05] <arti> http://blogs.msdn.com
[10:13:14] <Alberto> LOL
[10:13:16] <Alberto> i JUST saw that
[10:13:17] <Alberto> T_T
[10:13:28] <FatPhil> Erm, ascii porn animation? perl -e '$|=1;my @b=("( .) .)","(. I .)","(. (. )","(. I .)");$i=0;while(++$i){print("\r$b[$i%4]");sleep(1);}'
[10:13:30] <crutchy> maybe we should follow the civilization 2 hierarchy of government types
[10:13:42] <crutchy> i think we're still on anarchy
[10:14:06] <Alberto> If we have elections i can put some money and be like those groups who buy votes and so on
[10:14:14] <Alberto> and we can play democracy but is an anarchy
[10:14:15] <Alberto> :D
[10:14:28] <arti> democrazy more like
[10:14:32] <Popeidol> arti++
[10:14:32] <Leela> karma - arti: 32
[10:14:38] <crutchy> actually we're probably on despotism
[10:14:49] <arti> more like just straight corruption
[10:14:59] <arti> "hey what's up, i have all this dirt on you, so kindly stfu"
[10:15:13] <crutchy> nope actually there has been a revolt... so we're definitely on anarchy
[10:15:24] <Alberto> Ukrania like?
[10:15:26] <Alberto> alike*
[10:15:53] <gallondr00nk> you'll in an anarchy for at least 1 turn
[10:16:08] <Alberto> arti, http://www.ntcore.com
[10:16:20] <crutchy> i just hope we get a hot foreign minister
[10:16:29] <crutchy> like the one on the civ 2 advisors
[10:16:31] <arti> Alberto: thanks
[10:16:32] <Alberto> arti, did you see menuetOS?
[10:16:37] <gallondr00nk> haha!
[10:16:53] <arti> i've been aware of it, haven't run it or anything but it's elite
[10:17:12] * arti tinkers around with haiku
[10:17:24] <Popeidol> ooh, I forgot about menuetOS
[10:17:36] <arti> my beos disk lives on my shelf
[10:17:48] <Popeidol> I've got an old p100 with a failed HDD And cdrom, and been wondering what to get running on it
[10:17:51] <arti> the hardware support was limited at the time of release
[10:17:54] <Popeidol> something that runs on a floppy would be perfect
[10:18:03] <crutchy> "expenses be damned! we need barracks, else where will our soldiers rest their mighty lances?!"
[10:18:43] <Alberto> Popeidol, menuet
[10:18:54] <Alberto> and there is http://mikeos.berlios.de
[10:19:11] <Alberto> also there is other fully working on floppy with server stuff all coded in asm
[10:19:18] <Alberto> seems pretty secure
[10:19:41] <Popeidol> downside is there's zero onboard networking
[10:19:55] <Popeidol> and I'm guessing menuet doesn't come with support for pcmcia wifi cards
[10:20:06] <Alberto> Popeidol, http://kolibrios.org then this, is sexy!!
[10:20:29] <crutchy> oooh pipes!
[10:20:33] <crutchy> love that game
[10:20:57] <Alberto> Popeidol, from MenuetOS dev: Currently Menuet doesn't support wi-fi capable cards. Supported cards include RTL8029, RTL8139, 3c59x, SIS900 and I8255. Take a look at kernel sources ( K085.ZIP ) for details.
[10:21:01] <MrBluze|bbak> 640x480?
[10:21:02] <arti> that'd be a fun game to put on websockets for some multiplayer
[10:21:12] <gallondr00nk> civ 2 or 4 for me, i've heard 5 is a bit rubbish
[10:21:22] <MrBluze|bbak> screen shots with a mouse pointer in them always confuse me
[10:21:25] <arti> gallondr00nk: heard similar things
[10:21:27] <crutchy> civ 2 is awesome
[10:21:31] <arti> apparently a lot of the micro is out of 5
[10:21:41] <Popeidol> Alberto: you are a useful man to have around. I voice a vague thought and you immediately provide answers
[10:21:51] <arti> Popeidol: agreed
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[10:22:01] <gallondr00nk> right, like having maintenance for road building?
[10:22:14] <gallondr00nk> it isn't civ unless every tile has a road on it, damnit.
[10:22:52] <crutchy> i'm a civ 2 camper... pick big world map, choose players so i'm in a good spot, block choke points, go settler crazy, make sure i get leo's workshop... and then when i'm all set, i go smash all the pyewta players :-P
[10:23:04] * Alberto likes to help?
[10:23:13] <gallondr00nk> oh yeah, leo's workshop is pretty brutal
[10:23:14] <crutchy> and railroad
[10:23:26] <arti> i'll have to pick your brain on the sublime thing sometime, seems like a fun project
[10:24:05] <Alberto> np
[10:24:39] <arti> i'm going to get some sleep, catch you all later
[10:24:50] <crutchy> cya arti
[10:24:55] <Alberto> same here
[10:24:56] <Alberto> 3:30 am
[10:25:02] <Alberto> must work in like 5 hours
[10:25:03] <arti> take care :)
[10:25:10] <Alberto> see you all!
[10:25:13] <arti> kudos on getting your system up and running Alberto
[10:25:18] <crutchy> 8.30pm here
[10:25:18] <gallondr00nk> bye arti
[10:25:22] * arti salutes
[10:30:20] <GungnirSniper2> Whoo hoo, 3 decent article submitted. Take that, paid /. editors, I'm more gooder than you!
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[10:32:00] <crutchy> gooderer
[10:32:12] <gallondr00nk> you're even better than timothy, suck it /. ;)
[10:32:27] <crutchy> betterer
[10:32:38] <gallondr00nk> betterer than timothyerer
[10:32:50] <crutchy> betterereth
[10:33:12] <gallondr00nk> thy editing doth bettereth
[10:33:45] <crutchy> ethspecially when communicatingeth througheth eth0
[10:33:54] <gallondr00nk> lol
[10:36:05] <crutchy> "I may be of thome athithtanthe in cathe of a thudden crithith!"
[10:36:26] <crutchy> lol gotta love biggus dickus
[10:36:35] <crutchy> err... from the movie
[10:36:47] <crutchy> not in any other sense
[10:37:08] <gallondr00nk> well caught ;)
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[10:38:36] <NecroDM> good morning
[10:38:56] <crutchy> morning
[10:39:11] <gallondr00nk> greetings
[10:39:31] <crutchy> from the other side of the world :-)
[10:41:46] <Popeidol> crutchy: which bit of aus are you in?
[10:42:04] <Popeidol> I ask purely because I'm flying to tas tonight
[10:42:08] * Subsentient really wants his story in Soylent more and more, as his rage towards inline assembler and mplayer specifically grows
[10:44:22] <NecroDM> crutchy: you're from Australia? That's quite a timezone difference :)
[10:44:24] <crutchy> what's bad about inline asm?
[10:44:38] <crutchy> yeah
[10:44:48] <crutchy> you in the US i'm guessing?
[10:45:03] <crutchy> oops i mean europe
[10:45:17] <crutchy> lol
[10:45:28] <NecroDM> yep, europe hehe
[10:45:34] <crutchy> *is pretty sure the world has a round'ish shape"
[10:46:18] <NecroDM> yeah roundish sounds about right
[10:46:22] <MrBluze> Popeidol: where in tas u goin?
[10:46:54] <GungnirSniper2> Oh Christ, it's morning? I'm not done drinking yet.
[10:46:59] <Popeidol> MrBluze: hobart for a week or so
[10:47:13] <crutchy> sunny hobart eh
[10:47:38] <Popeidol> going from perth to hobart is going to be quite a shock
[10:47:48] <Popeidol> it was a nice 38 here today.
[10:48:20] <crutchy> shitbags... 38 is balmy even in the bushfire states
[10:49:04] <crutchy> and probably -50% humidity too i spose
[10:49:11] <MrBluze> ah ok
[10:49:22] <MrBluze> im not in hobart :P
[10:49:34] <Popeidol> MrBluze: launceston?
[10:49:43] * Popeidol names the only other tasmanian city he knows
[10:49:46] <MrBluze> lol
[10:49:59] <crutchy> you in melbourne or something weren't you mrbluze?
[10:50:11] <crutchy> or alice springs
[10:50:13] <MrBluze> yeah i move around
[10:50:18] <MrBluze> alice springs lol yeah
[10:50:23] <MrBluze> haha
[10:50:32] <MrBluze> melbourne some of the time
[10:50:34] <crutchy> or somewhere out bumfuck west
[10:50:44] <Popeidol> hey now
[10:50:45] <MrBluze> weipa
[10:50:47] * MrBluze grins
[10:50:48] <crutchy> lol
[10:50:52] <crutchy> sorry pope :-P
[10:50:57] <Popeidol> bumfuck west isn't all bad
[10:51:09] <Popeidol> there are at least one or two positive aspects
[10:51:16] <Popeidol> which I'm sure I will think of, eventually
[10:51:22] <crutchy> bhp
[10:51:31] <crutchy> and a shitload of cash
[10:51:33] <crutchy> :-)
[10:51:41] <MrBluze> yep a coffee is like $25
[10:52:17] <MrBluze> brb
[10:52:43] <crutchy> u humvee is probably a poor man's ride over in WA, no?
[10:52:57] <crutchy> not that i know, never actually been there
[10:53:22] <Popeidol> most people have replaced their humvees with FJ cruisers
[10:53:28] <crutchy> hahaha
[10:53:32] <Popeidol> not even slightly joking
[10:53:45] <Popeidol> I go past about 80 dentists on the way to work, all whom own them
[10:54:23] <MrBluze> dentists.. license to print money
[10:54:35] <MrBluze> what a cushy job
[10:54:46] <MrBluze> and u can have the worst personality it doesnt matter a damn
[10:55:26] <crutchy> fuck an fj cruiser looks like a 4wd had sex with a blowfly
[10:55:43] <MrBluze> actually, yeah ..
[10:55:47] <MrBluze> belongs in MONA
[10:55:50] <crutchy> aren't dentists a licence to print money anywhere
[10:55:54] <MrBluze> next to the poo machine
[10:55:59] <crutchy> lol
[10:56:07] <crutchy> i seen pic of the poo machine
[10:56:15] <crutchy> in a magazine
[10:56:27] <MrBluze> yeah, its an excuse for not leaving your phone in the toilets with the camera running
[10:56:36] <MrBluze> same diff.. ewww
[10:56:57] <Popeidol> god that poo machine smelled terrible
[10:56:59] <crutchy> you put food in and it deposits a momento
[10:57:05] <Popeidol> I started walking up to it, and just gave up
[10:57:06] <crutchy> seems like a shitty deal
[10:57:11] <crutchy> lol
[10:57:13] <MrBluze> yeah what a load of crap
[10:57:17] <crutchy> smell?
[10:57:50] <MrBluze> yep, it stinks like the genuine article
[10:58:02] <MrBluze> that's the part of artificial intelligence that we are studying here in sunny australia
[10:58:15] * MrBluze smiles proudly
[10:58:31] <Popeidol> I'm annoyed I visited mona too late to see the vagina wall
[10:58:53] <MrBluze> that one was designed to put you off vagina's for life
[10:58:57] <crutchy> lol is that the piece by the guy that took casts of a whole lot of pussies?
[10:59:05] <crutchy> i seen a pic of that too
[10:59:07] <crutchy> :-P
[10:59:14] <MrBluze> yeah
[10:59:21] <crutchy> artists are weird, but at least he got a lot of pussy :-P
[10:59:29] <MrBluze> its not the same when it's not attached to the rest
[10:59:38] <crutchy> true
[10:59:53] <crutchy> dunno... i've forgotten
[11:00:07] <MrBluze> well the half that walks is better than the half that talks
[11:00:15] <MrBluze> but yeah
[11:00:44] * MrBluze ducks before the pot his wife threw hits his head
[11:01:00] <crutchy> lol
[11:01:15] <crutchy> *dodges pot flying through the tubes*
[11:01:39] <MrBluze> when he said tubes im sure he meant pipes
[11:01:43] <MrBluze> like turd pipes
[11:01:55] <crutchy> s/tubes/interblags/
[11:01:55] <SedBot> <crutchy> *dodges pot flying through the blogospheres*
[11:02:00] <crutchy> s/tubes/interblags/
[11:02:01] <SedBot> <crutchy> *dodges pot flying through the interspheres*
[11:02:07] <crutchy> s/tubes/interblags/
[11:02:07] <SedBot> <crutchy> *dodges pot flying through the blagospheres*
[11:02:10] <crutchy> s/tubes/interblags/
[11:02:10] <SedBot> <crutchy> *dodges pot flying through the webnets*
[11:02:13] <crutchy> lol
[11:02:19] <crutchy> sedbot is weird
[11:02:19] * SedBot is a 49-line awk script, https://github.com
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[11:03:19] <MrBluze> ok, jut putting it out there, any graphic artists, ppl interested in web UI design, typography, etc out there?
[11:03:34] * MrBluze shows a bit of leg
[11:03:42] <crutchy> hahaha ew
[11:03:47] <MrBluze> lol
[11:04:16] <crutchy> i like a bit of css, but i must admit i've never dealth with anyone else's css before
[11:04:35] <MrBluze> well slashcode of old had a css machine not unlike the one in mona
[11:04:57] <crutchy> hahaha yeah i've had a look at some of the template engine code
[11:05:18] <crutchy> it's a whole lot of pffffffffffffffffffft
[11:05:22] <MrBluze> im not doing that though, im formulating a redesign
[11:05:59] <crutchy> better repost this: https://www.youtube.com
[11:07:01] <crutchy> i should obfuscate the url and submit it under the guise of some cnet article about a new linux kernel security exploit
[11:07:29] <MrBluze> lol
[11:07:37] <MrBluze> linux security exploit porn
[11:12:49] <MrBluze> brb
[11:14:55] <crutchy> must admit i never saw the point of a template engine
[11:15:25] <crutchy> i'm just an engineer, not a software guy but it always seemed like a really complicated (and bug-prone) way to go
[11:16:04] <MrBluze> it is
[11:16:22] <MrBluze> but it was designed before css, before dynamic content
[11:16:26] <Popeidol> when you look at it, everything in software that's accepted as standard feels horribly over-engineered and abstract
[11:16:48] <MrBluze> it's hard to wind it back
[11:17:33] <MrBluze> https still doesnt work
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[11:18:14] <MrBluze> someone should submit the thing about the uber-secure blackberrys and the AFP's concerns about them
[11:18:22] <MrBluze> .. cause it exposes how much they can get out of ordinary phones
[11:18:28] <crutchy> as much as i'm not a js guy either, a simple js pwd hash+form submit is prolly easier than trying to get ssl working
[11:18:40] <crutchy> i mean if we can get ssl working great
[11:18:49] <MrBluze> yeah true, crutchy
[11:19:12] <crutchy> but passwords are prolly the only thing worth protecting on soylent as far as i know
[11:19:19] <crutchy> could be wrong
[11:19:31] <MrBluze> comment posting for AC's is worth protecting
[11:19:44] <crutchy> lol with ssl
[11:19:52] <MrBluze> well yes actually
[11:19:57] <crutchy> hmm ok
[11:20:03] <MrBluze> eg: if u are a whistle blower, u are using tor
[11:20:03] <crutchy> for privacy?
[11:20:07] <MrBluze> u dont trust tor
[11:20:19] <MrBluze> but if u have ssl to the target site, u can be fairly sure
[11:20:35] <crutchy> dunno i never thought of whistleblowing on a site like soylent (never had to whistleblow before)
[11:20:42] <MrBluze> me neither
[11:20:49] <MrBluze> but whistleblowers are the best news source there is
[11:21:08] <MrBluze> i tell ya, i seen better comments on SN than i have seen on /. for years
[11:21:09] <crutchy> probably a rare scenario
[11:21:11] <gallondr00nk> I can understand why perhaps, but I don't think i've ever seen someone do it
[11:21:15] <crutchy> yeah
[11:21:34] <crutchy> i not sure i would trust ssl if i were a whistlblower
[11:21:48] <crutchy> depends who you blowing the whistle of
[11:21:56] <MrBluze> ssl + tor = moderate success of being anonymous
[11:21:57] <crutchy> ^ that came out wrong
[11:21:59] <gallondr00nk> and how hard you blow it, i suppose
[11:22:03] <crutchy> lol
[11:22:07] <MrBluze> lol crutchy !!!
[11:22:21] <MrBluze> that sucks .. i mean blows.. i mean... ugh
[11:23:38] <crutchy> i wonder how hard it would be to strip out the template engine
[11:24:01] <MrBluze> that would be awesome
[11:24:47] <crutchy> before the vm came out i was trying to get slashcode working on php2+mod_perl2
[11:25:00] <crutchy> maybe instead of tinkering with the vm i should go back to that
[11:25:07] <MrBluze> still, i think getting the css right is more important
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[11:26:05] <MrBluze> not sure about that
[11:26:20] <MrBluze> but u should work together with the devs - its more fun
[11:27:53] <crutchy> problem is atm slashcode is having intimate relations with apache1.3 and cpan and whatever else in there... i would be worried if i changed anything the whole system might start throwing pots at me
[11:28:36] <crutchy> never heard of having to compile apache to get a cms working
[11:29:01] <MrBluze> lol yeah its a bit of a bitch
[11:29:27] <crutchy> through the interblags
[11:29:51] <MrBluze> yeah its too clever for its own good
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[11:30:11] <crutchy> how you working on css mrbluze?
[11:30:33] <crutchy> you just got your own separate layout that's independent of slashcode?
[11:30:45] <crutchy> for development
[11:31:18] <MrBluze> nah i have been tinkering with the dev code
[11:31:38] <MrBluze> i mean i tinker with the code as it is
[11:32:09] <MrBluze> but im working more on icons, UI guidelines and airy fairy shit
[11:32:11] <crutchy> you been pushing /themes/slashcode/htdocs/*.cssraw files to github
[11:32:19] <crutchy> oh ok
[11:32:46] <MrBluze> mainly cause im time poor
[11:33:14] <MrBluze> most of the css work is being done by paulej72 and audioguy
[11:33:39] <MrBluze> like right now, i'd like to sit down and do stuff, but i am running around cleaning the freakin kitchen in between typing
[11:34:09] <crutchy> yeah i know how that feels. my wife is bedridden with back injury
[11:34:22] <crutchy> work full time, look after house and two kids
[11:34:33] <crutchy> fun but tiring
[11:35:33] <MrBluze> yeah, that ruins your ability to concentrate for hours on end
[11:36:28] <MrBluze> yeah kids r worth it
[11:37:28] <MrBluze> brb again
[11:38:22] <MrBluze> backish
[11:38:22] <MrBluze> brb .. changing tunnels
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[11:52:54] <MrBluze> damn network probs
[11:52:58] <MrBluze> always this time of day on a friday
[11:54:34] <MrBluze> ill make an early night - see u all
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[11:54:46] <crutchy> night mrbluze
[11:54:51] <crutchy> seems like a good idea
[11:55:15] <MrBluze|zzz> night crutchy
[11:55:46] <MrBluze|zzz> yeah i gotta get more rest i am being useless this tired. .. drew some icons today and then was too tired to colour them in
[11:55:58] <MrBluze|zzz> seeya
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[12:02:03] <Leela> [SoylentNews] - Mapping Carbon Footprints Four Ways - http://sylnt.us - the-single-set-was-when-I-carried-you
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[12:18:43] <chromas> chromas--
[12:18:51] <chromas> s/--/++/
[12:18:52] <SedBot> <chromas> chromas++
[12:18:55] <chromas> Aw
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[12:59:53] <bryn> Good day ladies and gentlemen
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[13:14:23] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[13:15:00] <chromas> It says I'm in the wrong country
[13:15:07] <chromas> But I remember that movie
[13:16:14] <crutchy> this was an awesome movie when i was a kid. what am i talking about... it still is :-)
[13:17:41] <chromas> It's not available but the same movie linked next to it works ☺ Thanks
[13:17:56] <FatPhil> never seen it. my g/f says it "cute", in a bad way
[13:18:18] <FatPhil> What are the ultimate nerd movies?
[13:18:45] <FatPhil> I can add spending time watching them as calamities in idlerpg!
[13:19:50] <bryn> Is it worth watching?
[13:20:07] <bryn> Never seen Flight of the Navigator
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[13:22:23] <bryn> Well, I feel like a 24-carot plonker.
[13:22:31] <bryn> carat*
[13:22:38] <crutchy> as much as sandra bullock is a pathetic actress, gravity is a pretty good nerd movie
[13:23:17] <bryn> Thought Gravity was a great film
[13:23:29] <FatPhil> Never liked bullock much in the past, but thought she was great in Gravity. A lot of that is the director, though.
[13:23:34] <crutchy> would be awesome to see @ imax
[13:23:36] <bryn> wasnt sure of it when I saw the trailer though
[13:23:50] <bryn> I saw Pacific Rim @ imax
[13:23:52] * bryn shudders
[13:23:59] <crutchy> special effects made up for any lack in acting
[13:24:24] <crutchy> bugger... it's been taken down from http://viooz.co
[13:24:29] <crutchy> :-(
[13:25:54] <bryn> You'll just have to do the right thing and buy it ;)
[13:26:12] <crutchy> nah i'm not much into movies
[13:26:23] <crutchy> i watch maybe one every 2 or 3 months
[13:26:46] <crutchy> i just hire from vedeo ezy
[13:27:03] <crutchy> s/vedeo/video/
[13:27:03] <SedBot> <crutchy> i just hire from video ezy
[13:27:07] <bryn> I got Netflix for that reason
[13:27:16] <bryn> dont watch much tv or movies
[13:27:21] <bryn> but love a bit of netflix ever so often
[13:35:49] <FatPhil> Is anyone a Star Trek nerd at all? Any era
[13:36:24] <FatPhil> I've got a Star Trek themed IdleRPG in the works... ;-)
[13:36:35] <crutchy> yeah i guess i could admit to that
[13:36:48] <crutchy> seven of nine <3
[13:38:23] <bryn> not a big star trek fan myself, but i have seen a few episodes
[13:44:13] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[13:44:15] <crutchy> cool
[13:44:54] <crutchy> voyager going through the clouds looks awesome
[13:46:14] <FatPhil> nver seen anything past TNG
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[14:01:26] <Leela> [SoylentNews] - Taser-Proof Your Clothes with Carbon Fiber Lining - http://sylnt.us - try-to-tase-me-now-bro
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[14:05:03] <Konomi> heh so good ~
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[14:20:05] <kobach> martyb: hi
[14:23:49] <kobach> rofl my karma on the site is -2 all because i told poutine hi
[14:24:03] <kobach> what a crock of shit
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[14:24:39] <xlefay> bacon++
[14:24:39] <Leela> karma - bacon: 106
[14:26:04] <kobach> xlefay:
[14:26:09] <kobach> 07.07:23:47 <+kobach> rofl my karma on the site is -2 all because i told poutine hi
[14:26:12] <kobach> 07.07:24:01 <+kobach> what a crock of shit
[14:27:44] <xlefay> kobach++
[14:27:44] <Leela> karma - kobach: 15
[14:28:50] <xlefay> You must really feel as a troll now ;'(
[14:29:52] <kobach> lol
[14:30:04] <kobach> poutine--
[14:30:05] <Leela> karma - poutine: -240
[14:30:09] <kobach> fuckhim and the site karma
[14:30:11] <kobach> lolo
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[14:33:19] <nobbis> kobach: next time i get some mod points i'll mod up one of your comments
[14:33:29] <xlefay> kobach: See this is what I don't understand karma's at -189301019101544398829725 in staff channel and poutine's only -240 here.
[14:33:34] <xlefay> eh, bacon*
[14:34:21] <kobach> xlefay: because its channel dependant
[14:34:31] <kobach> god doesnt hate poutine, just bacon
[14:34:45] <kobach> nobbis: thanks
[14:34:54] <kobach> modup the one that said "hi poutine"
[14:34:58] <kobach> lol
[14:35:05] <kobach> i got -1 troll
[14:35:15] <nobbis> cant i'm commented on that thread
[14:35:19] <xlefay> kobach: <sarcasm>no clue it was!</sarcasm> anyway, it does seem that way
[14:36:22] <kobach> lol
[14:41:12] <xlefay> Wow, there are even beer cartridges for e-cigs :o
[14:41:27] <xlefay> filters*
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[14:49:21] <xlefay> kobach: I didn't comment, if I get mod points ;D
[14:50:33] * xlefay notes he only gets them when he doesn't need them.. and vice versa
[14:52:07] <FatPhil> -189301019101544398829725 isn't even a number
[14:52:21] <FatPhil> well, not a 64-bit one. It's -0xffffffff
[14:52:32] <xlefay> FatPhil: tell that to whoever fuckt up bacon's karma in staff channel :'[
[14:52:49] <FatPhil> it's python, isn't it?
[14:53:05] <xlefay> Yes, the files that's stored in are json iirc though
[14:53:12] <FatPhil> doesn't python fall back onto bignums automatically
[14:53:21] <FatPhil> Can you view the json files?
[14:53:46] <xlefay> of course I can
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[14:57:22] * Konomi hugs xlefay
[14:57:40] <FatPhil> and is it serialised as "-189301019101544398829725"?
[14:57:51] <xlefay> FatPhil: think it was.. I deleted the file tho
[14:57:54] <xlefay> Konomi: what I do?
[14:58:06] <Konomi> poutyness ;p
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[14:59:44] <xlefay> I wonder if there are filters in bacon flavor, hmm.
[14:59:54] <xlefay> Might be a bit too much of the good stuff though.
[15:02:51] <kobach> lol
[15:03:25] <xlefay> FatPhil: In your idleRPG docs, you mention the docs for the admin section should that link not go to: http://idlerpg.net ?
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[15:08:30] <xlefay> .unquiet *!*@s-69-253-783-290.hsd0.wa.comcast.net
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[15:08:53] <xlefay> That explains why has has been so quiet the past few days...
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[15:09:50] <FatPhil> who's at that address?
[15:10:20] <Leela> [SoylentNews] - Turkey seeking to ban Facebook and Youtube - http://sylnt.us - with-a-capital-"T"-and-that-rhymes-with-"P"
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[15:19:18] <kobach> bacon++
[15:19:18] <Leela> karma - bacon: 107
[15:23:17] <Landon> Alberto: you rang?
[15:25:27] <kobach> Alberto: are you roberto
[15:29:06] <bryn> bryn++
[15:29:16] <bryn> computer say no :)
[15:30:04] <nobbis> bryn++
[15:30:04] <Leela> karma - bryn: 1
[15:30:17] <kobach> bacon++
[15:30:17] <Leela> karma - bacon: 108
[15:42:20] <drgibbon> poutine--
[15:42:20] <Leela> karma - poutine: -241
[15:42:25] <drgibbon> just because
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[15:43:27] <janrinok> hi guys
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[15:49:05] <Cactus> Morning(?), janrinok!
[15:49:45] <mrgirlpluggedout> good moaning
[15:50:25] <janrinok> hi guys
[15:50:43] <janrinok> mrgirlpluggedout: I like the story about the taser proof suit
[15:51:04] <janrinok> Cactus: no, its mid afternoon here, and you?
[15:51:38] <mrgirlpluggedout> janrinok: I like the comments in that story.
[15:51:46] <Cactus> Nearly 7am. Morning for most people here, but I'm the early riser sort.
[15:51:46] <janrinok> agreed
[15:51:56] <mrgirlpluggedout> Taser-proofing yourself will only get you beaten or shot.
[15:52:15] <janrinok> Yep!
[15:52:53] <Cactus> It would still make me giggle to see their face when the tasing did nothing... right before they decided guns were a better option.
[15:52:55] <mrgirlpluggedout> But it's a neat idea anyway/
[15:53:30] <janrinok> What's the approved posting rate for stories today?
[15:53:37] <mrgirlpluggedout> Look at O'Brien, that guy's on PCP!
[15:53:40] <mrgirlpluggedout> Shoot him!
[15:53:46] <mrgirlpluggedout> *look out
[15:55:36] <LaminatorX> A buddy in high-school wired himself up with a big capacitor with one lead going to his shoe and one line leading to his wristwatch. Good times.
[15:55:41] <mrgirlpluggedout> janrinok: uh, I haven't asked anyone about it.
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[15:57:20] <LaminatorX> Twelve is a little light going into the weekend. Let's back off to 90 minutes again for the moment.
[15:59:12] <LaminatorX> If we get a bunch of subs once west coast waked up, we can pick up the pace again.
[16:00:15] <janrinok> LaminatorX: noted thx
[16:01:47] <bryn> I know you guys probably hear this a lot at the moment, but just wanted to say nice work chaps
[16:01:54] <kobach> thanks
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[16:02:15] <bryn> Thanks back sir
[16:02:22] <kobach> baconserv appreciates your kind words
[16:02:26] <bryn> my first v for about 10 years lol
[16:02:56] * aqu4 would voice bryn, but she's not an op, and he already has voice
[16:03:58] <NecroDM> you can always do this
[16:04:00] <NecroDM> bryn++
[16:04:00] <Leela> karma - bryn: 2
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[16:05:20] <useless> hola all
[16:06:24] <Cactus> hola
[16:07:41] <useless> anyone have any experience doing a netboot install?
[16:08:15] <aqu4> karma - bryn: over 9,000
[16:08:58] <Subsentient> useless: You mean, boot from net, or boot from media then install from net?
[16:09:05] <useless> boot from net
[16:09:06] <Subsentient> If the former, I cannot help
[16:09:10] <Subsentient> Yeah sorry
[16:09:15] <useless> no worries.
[16:09:22] <Subsentient> Never got pxe to work
[16:09:52] <useless> old laptop im trying to update. Ubuntu decided to hard freeze during an apt-get, and left the thing unbootable
[16:11:08] <Leela> [SoylentNews] - Transpeople and Fairness in Athletic Competitions - http://sylnt.us - is-it-plaintiff-or-plaintive
[16:11:26] <useless> new laptop has no CD, and old one can't usb boot
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[16:12:19] * Subsentient is afraid of transhumanists
[16:12:37] <useless> of what?
[16:13:32] <Subsentient> useless: Those folks who saw the Borg in First Contact and said "why can't people be like that"
[16:13:40] <useless> ahh, gargoyles
[16:14:03] <Subsentient> useless: Those people who either want genetic manipulation or borgism for the general populace
[16:14:28] <useless> yeah, they creepy
[16:15:05] <VitaminR> hey all
[16:15:12] <VitaminR> having trouble logging in
[16:15:20] <VitaminR> I put in my password and it denied me
[16:15:32] <LaminatorX> If that were the transpeople the article was referring to, they would definitely need a different athletics category.
[16:15:45] <VitaminR> I clicked on Forgot My Password, had it mailed to my email, but in the temporary replacement password, and was denied again
[16:16:01] <useless> VitaminR: you try from a different browser?
[16:16:09] <VitaminR> not yet
[16:16:12] <VitaminR> good idea.
[16:16:18] <VitaminR> that was my next move.
[16:16:19] <useless> try that. might be a bad cookie or sth
[16:16:25] <VitaminR> sth?
[16:16:30] <useless> something
[16:16:39] <VitaminR> k
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[16:18:41] <kobach> lol
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[16:19:50] <kobach> hi bryn
[16:19:54] <useless> ahh, seems the article is on a different type of trans
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[16:20:03] <kobach> hi bryn_
[16:20:06] <bryn_> hmm
[16:20:12] <bryn_> thats not right lol
[16:20:17] <useless> http://en.wikipedia.org
[16:20:18] <VitaminR> useless: I just want it to stop spamming my Inbox with stories
[16:20:19] <kobach> neither was your password
[16:20:21] <kobach> lol
[16:20:23] <useless> that's what I thought
[16:20:34] <bryn_> indeed.
[16:20:38] <useless> haha
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[16:20:54] <ghost> that'll do for now
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[16:22:02] <ghost> why'd I have to set a password when i'm half asleep.
[16:22:55] <xlefay> ghost: you require help?
[16:23:14] <xlefay> (check your e-mail, by the way, probably spam folder)
[16:23:18] <ghost> just forgot my password + now my account (bryn) is just stuck there
[16:23:41] <xlefay> ghost: already send you a password reset the moment I noticed the wallops
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[16:23:55] <martyb> xlefay:++
[16:23:57] <ghost> you bloody genious.
[16:24:16] <ghost> genius*
[16:24:59] <xlefay> Let me know if you got the mail
[16:25:10] <ghost> I'll check now
[16:25:41] <ghost> Here we go :)
[16:26:10] ghost is now known as bryn
[16:26:30] <bryn> xlefay: <3
[16:26:49] <xlefay> feel free to karma me up anytime you wish. ;)
[16:26:57] <bryn> xlefay++
[16:26:57] <Leela> karma - xlefay: 43
[16:27:02] <xlefay> Thank you, now that's real love!
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[16:27:06] <bryn> xlefay++
[16:27:07] <Leela> karma - xlefay: 44
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[16:27:38] <bryn> Some helpful peeps in here huh?
[16:28:46] <useless> he's like Superman. Swoops in, fixes shit, then...flies away
[16:29:28] <bryn> lol
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[16:38:37] <kobach> rofl
[16:39:00] <kobach> i come back and my notices are full of bad password
[16:39:10] <kobach> poor guy
[16:46:26] <bryn> my bad?
[16:46:27] <bryn> :)
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[17:02:15] <kobach> lol
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[17:48:49] <kobach> FatPhil: :O
[17:49:06] <kobach> 07.10:47:53 < kobach> lol
[17:49:07] <kobach> 07.10:47:55 < nerdbot> kobach's prudence and self-regard has brought the wrath of the gods upon the realm. All your great wickedness makes you as it were heavy with lead, and to tend downwards with great weight and pressure towards hell. Therefore have you drawn yourselves 15 steps closer to that gaping maw.
[17:49:11] <kobach> :o
[17:56:49] <useless> uhh, what?
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[18:00:34] <Leela> [SoylentNews] - Man Sentenced To 6 Years For Comments In MMORPG - http://sylnt.us - Me-and-my-big-mouth
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[18:07:07] <FatPhil> kobach: You were on a quest!
[18:07:08] <FatPhil> 16:16 < nerdbot> kobach, FatPhil, FoobarBazbot, and Insect_Overlord have been chosen by the gods to Gather the finest craftsmen in the land, so that Charles Babbage may complete his Analytical Engine. Participants must first reach [290,65], then [325,270]. See /dev/null to monitor their journey's progress.
[18:07:33] <FatPhil> When you are on a quest, you mustn't make any mistakes
[18:07:47] <FatPhil> If you do - everyone gets punished!
[18:08:14] <FatPhil> the message is a bit garbled, alas - I'll rewrite it
[18:08:55] <kobach> oh lol
[18:09:18] <kobach> wish i woulda known that before typing in the chan
[18:09:37] <FatPhil> no - that's good - you tested another pathway in the code.
[18:09:43] <FatPhil> That's what that channel's for!
[18:09:53] <FatPhil> just don't do it on the real game!
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[18:10:23] <kobach> now repeat what you just said
[18:10:24] <xlefay> woa kobach alerted me there was an idlerpg discussion
[18:10:38] * xlefay will pay extra attention.
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[18:12:35] <FatPhil> xlefay: kobach just helpfully tested the quest-failure code path.
[18:12:47] <kobach> lol
[18:12:54] * xlefay checks the logs
[18:13:11] <FatPhil> you only get quests when there are 4 people over level 39, so they haven't occured in the real game yet, but will soon.
[18:13:18] <kobach> ahh
[18:13:26] <kobach> yea we're almost there
[18:13:37] <xlefay> <kobach> wish i woulda known that before typing in the chan LOL
[18:13:42] <FatPhil> the failure message was kinda garbled, and confused all who read it.
[18:13:54] <kobach> 07.06:39:55 <@idlerpg> arti and mrwizrd's unrelenting gainsaying of RIAA and MPAA FUD impresses the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and he touches them with his noodly appendage.
[18:13:57] <kobach> rofl
[18:14:51] <kobach> LaminatorX|afk: if you ever feel like making that squid again let me know, ill try it
[18:15:22] <xlefay> "hka had damaging electrical spikes of up to 18300 volts"
[18:15:27] <kobach> LOL
[18:15:32] <xlefay> I love those messages, they're just so fucking funny
[18:15:35] <kobach> ^
[18:15:48] <kobach> im glad im not the only one who laughs hysterically at the irpg messages
[18:15:55] <xlefay> hahaha yea
[18:16:10] <FatPhil> I'm glad my effort has been worth it - thanks!
[18:16:20] * xlefay silently hopes there'll be xkcd references in there at some point :P
[18:16:27] <xlefay> especially in quests, now that'd be evil!
[18:16:28] <kobach> oh lord no
[18:16:38] <kobach> "hes at it again!"
[18:16:43] <xlefay> FatPhil: your efforts are most appreciated, that's for sure!
[18:16:46] <FatPhil> xlefay - I'll scribble that on my notepad...
[18:16:54] <kobach> noooooo dont
[18:17:04] <xlefay> kobach: don't be no hater'
[18:17:05] <useless> hehe
[18:17:12] <kobach> lol
[18:17:16] <kobach> :(
[18:17:17] <xlefay> s/no/a/
[18:17:17] <SedBot> <xlefay> kobach: don't be a hater'
[18:17:23] <kobach> he bombards me with them
[18:17:28] <kobach> lol
[18:17:37] <bryn> wheres idlerpg?
[18:17:40] <kobach> #irpg
[18:18:07] <bryn> bless, just like ze old days
[18:18:13] <kobach> lolol
[18:18:17] <xlefay> ... http://xkcd.com
[18:18:19] <bryn> someone care to remind me how to get started
[18:18:20] <kobach> bryn: #idlenerds
[18:18:34] <xlefay> #idlenerds is for testing only isn't it?
[18:18:36] <kobach> yes
[18:18:41] <kobach> its the test rpg
[18:18:47] <kobach> the fun one
[18:18:54] <kobach> where you can fuck up and ask FatPhil to scoot you forward
[18:19:04] <kobach> FatPhil: scoot me forward ~2hrs from talking lol
[18:19:38] <FatPhil> where FatPhil will arbitrarily remove items and levels from people if he thinks a code-path needs testing
[18:19:49] <kobach> lol
[18:19:52] <kobach> that too
[18:20:17] <FatPhil> where the bot may disappear for hours or days. or may restart 10 times in 5 minutes
[18:20:29] <kobach> 20 times*
[18:20:38] <FatPhil> yeah, more like
[18:20:45] <bryn> Sounds about right
[18:21:03] <xlefay> bryn: you do actually need to sign up to play idlerpg eh :p
[18:21:14] <FatPhil> I've just done a whole sequence of changes, but was unable to test any of them, as I did them out of order.
[18:21:31] <bryn> xlefay: thats what I thought :)
[18:21:41] <FatPhil> bryn: the two channels are completely unconnected to each other, the test one runs on my home server.
[18:21:49] <bryn> ah cool
[18:22:05] <FatPhil> do not use the same password - I can see the one you use on the test chan, (and xlefay can see the one you use on the real one)
[18:22:35] <FatPhil> and do not get too attached to the test one. when I'm feature complete, I won't need it. :-p
[18:22:36] <xlefay> Really? I had no idea
[18:22:59] <FatPhil> xlefay: if you have debug logging, yes, all comms are logged.
[18:23:20] <xlefay> aah yeah got debugging disabled though
[18:23:34] <FatPhil> yeah, and I've got it enabled ;-)
[18:23:36] <xlefay> enabled it once after an update (we were talking) afterwards disabled it
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[18:23:58] <FatPhil> either way round is a good enough reason to not use the same password
[18:24:51] <kobach> i usually just pull out some dictionary word for those
[18:24:56] <bryn> done deal
[18:25:09] * xlefay just uses grc.com/password.html
[18:25:26] <kobach> for a bullshit password like idlerpg?
[18:25:31] <kobach> thats another thing i have to remember!
[18:26:13] <xlefay> ;)
[18:26:18] <kobach> rofl
[18:29:04] <martyb> well, time for me to get to the "day" job...
[18:29:28] <martyb> don't know if I'l be able to check in tonight...
[18:29:31] <useless> thats no fun
[18:29:40] <martyb> yeah, tell me about it!
[18:29:54] <useless> well, you have to log off irc and go do real work
[18:30:06] <xlefay> or least, pretend to be doing it
[18:30:11] <useless> ^
[18:30:26] <xlefay> although, it might not be very wise for your job security...
[18:30:36] <martyb> So, please hold off on any uprisings until tomorrow. K? =)
[18:30:53] <useless> no promises
[18:31:03] <xlefay> Don't be unreasonable now
[18:31:10] * useless hides the pitchfork behind his back
[18:31:36] <xlefay> useless++ :):)
[18:31:36] <Leela> karma - useless: 1
[18:31:46] <useless> w00t
[18:32:04] <xlefay> http://xkcd.com !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:32:14] <kobach> "hes at it again!"
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[18:33:02] <useless> Dice's next plan if the clickbaty topics don't drive up ad impressions?
[18:33:04] * useless runs
[18:33:40] <xlefay> http://xkcd.com I swear... this gotta happen like at least one time each day
[18:34:08] <xlefay> _to someone somewhere_
[18:35:01] <kobach> lol
[18:35:11] <kobach> music during sex
[18:35:14] <useless> xlefay: careful, or we'll just replace you with a bot that randomly links to http://dynamic.xkcd.com
[18:35:17] <kobach> i get distracted too easily for that shit
[18:35:23] <kobach> esp if its a good song
[18:35:46] <xlefay> kobach: you oughta read better >.<
[18:35:59] <kobach> why
[18:35:59] <xlefay> useless: good point :o
[18:36:21] <kobach> i read about al there is to it
[18:37:04] <xlefay> Just please tell me, you've got Go Go Power Rangers in the library "just in case"?
[18:37:44] <xlefay> nobody?
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[18:38:09] <useless> Scorpions - "Rock you like a hurricane"
[18:38:24] <kobach> lol
[18:38:29] <kobach> ^
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[18:50:40] <n1> ahoy
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[18:51:08] <useless> sup?
[18:53:26] <kobach> watching a gene wilder interview
[18:53:54] <n1> having a fun day building a new bookcase and desk
[18:55:12] <useless> just noticed two mainstays of my diet are tea and Guinness. afraid I may be turning Irish by osmosis
[18:55:53] <n1> tea is good, im yet to have a decent pint of guinness
[18:57:16] <useless> true
[18:57:52] <n1> today i have been foiled by powertools
[18:58:26] <useless> they are crafty buggers
[18:58:50] <n1> i was determined to build my bookcase and desk without actually labouring for it
[18:59:00] <n1> but i ran out of battery on my impact driver
[19:00:36] <useless> suckage
[19:01:40] <n1> so much better to do it this way though, than buying 'flat pack' shit that would cost more and be half as sturdy
[19:01:59] <useless> flat pack == ikea?
[19:02:02] <n1> aye
[19:02:31] <useless> I like the ikea option, but I move house *a lot*
[19:02:53] <useless> so if I have to get up and go, don't care about the furniture
[19:03:20] <n1> id do the same, the desk and bookcase are designed for this room only, next time i move
[19:03:25] <n1> i will probably do it again
[19:03:32] <n1> make the most of the space at the time
[19:03:39] <useless> *nod*
[19:03:47] <n1> this way though, i can take or leave it
[19:03:55] <n1> and if i do take it, it wont get broken in transit
[19:04:21] <useless> you hope
[19:04:32] <n1> if it does break, i only have myself to blame
[19:04:42] <useless> good point
[19:04:50] <n1> and will be able to repair it easier than chipboard with a veneer
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[19:54:19] <xlefay> bacon++ g'night everyone! ..
[19:54:19] <Leela> karma - bacon: 109
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[19:57:28] <Alberto> Hello amigos
[19:57:29] <Alberto> :D
[19:57:59] * Alberto loves his vhost
[19:58:00] <Alberto> :p
[19:58:27] <stderr> Pfffttt... Mine is way better...
[19:58:36] <stderr> bacon++
[19:58:36] <Leela> karma - bacon: 110
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[19:59:42] <useless> note to self, fix low battery warning
[20:00:12] <useless> i.e. actually have one
[20:01:23] <Alberto> stderr, yours is ugly
[20:01:31] <Alberto> bacon++
[20:01:31] <Leela> karma - bacon: 111
[20:02:01] <stderr> You're crazy! Get off my lawn!
[20:04:24] <kobach> hi stderr
[20:04:27] <kobach> bacon++
[20:04:27] <Leela> karma - bacon: 112
[20:05:02] <stderr> Hey.
[20:05:04] <stderr> bacon++
[20:05:04] <Leela> karma - bacon: 113
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[20:10:35] <Alberto> tacos++
[20:10:35] <Leela> karma - tacos: 3
[20:10:55] <Alberto> beer++
[20:10:55] <Leela> karma - beer: 4
[20:10:57] <Alberto> :p
[20:12:36] <useless> where's the website bug reporting tool?
[20:13:48] * Alberto hs no idea
[20:14:00] <Alberto> hs/has/
[20:14:26] <stderr> From the topic: "Got bugs? http://sylnt.us"
[20:19:20] <useless> might be something to put in "about" or "faqs"
[20:24:55] <FatPhil> god hates faqs
[20:26:00] <stderr> God hates fangs...
[20:26:10] <useless> dog has fangs
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[20:51:49] <Leela> [tessellated] best way to recommend article summaries in the rss feed?
[20:54:13] <Landon> it's been suggested :) many times
[20:54:14] <Landon> but
[20:54:16] <Landon> for good measure
[20:54:29] <Landon> !suggestion get article summaries in the RSS feed!
[20:54:30] <Leela> Suggestion sent!
[21:00:55] <Leela> [SoylentNews] - Linux Professionals Wanted, Survey Says - http://sylnt.us - Is-this-the-year-of-the-Linux-expert
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[21:37:46] <LaminatorX> A headhunter just called me looking for a Linux professional today. Unfortunately they also wanted this person to be an Oracle WebLogic expert.
[21:38:06] <kobach> keplr: happy birthday! https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net
[21:38:41] <LaminatorX> (if anyone around here is such a person, let me know, I'll pass it along.)
[21:38:45] * kobach steals LaminatorX's george forman grill
[21:39:04] <LaminatorX> Yoiks!
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[22:19:44] <keplr> Him name is hopkin green frog
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[22:21:58] <Leela> [SoylentNews] - Multiferroics Improve Processor Efficiency - UCLA - http://sylnt.us - that's-so-cool
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[22:50:18] <Leela> [SoylentNews] - Camera Malware Enters Google Play - http://sylnt.us - friends-don't-let-friends-rat
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[22:53:36] <Leela> [tessellated] Landon: after all, the summaried are in the emails already… but I prefer my news centralized in rss feeds. thx for sending the suggestion!
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[23:09:12] <VitaminR> Hewhoah
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[23:24:43] <useless> this will only end in tears
[23:24:58] <useless> sticky, faygo flavored tears
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