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[06:58:26] <janrinok> thx for the update - it seems we take 2 steps forward and then 1 step back. There is not much help that I can provide but can you clarify something for me please. Why is the Pro version so important. I can give you a key for W7 home edition that is valid and paid for, hell, I can even post you the DVD if you feel that you need one for longterm backup
[06:59:36] <janrinok> I do not have a use for w7 anymore so it is just sitting here doing nothing. And the home edition might be enough to do a disk repair?
[07:01:09] <janrinok> I could - presumably - upload my ISO to one of our staff servers and you could download it from there if you wish?
[07:04:50] <chromas> I think most all the versions have the same ISO. The only difference should be which extra toys are installed, according to the key you paste in.
[07:06:22] <janrinok> would it work to do a disk repair?
[07:06:37] <chromas> It should
[07:07:33] <janrinok> and how easy is it to change the kbd layout. Is Window locked to the keyboard selected at installation or can it be subsequently changed or have multiple keyboards possible?
[07:07:47] <chromas> I'm not sure I've ever seen the automatic Windows Repair thing work, but it's easy enough to get a terminal window and run bootrec to fix up the bootloader and stuff
[07:08:26] <chromas> I recall seeing an option in one of the several control panels, but I've never used it.
[07:08:31] <janrinok> k - seems like a possibility then
[07:09:42] <chromas> Are you going to run your 7 to see what options he has?
[07:13:22] <janrinok> I can look at the options on the DVD but I'm not installing it anywhere
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[09:03:48] <Bytram_phone> ~tell cmn32480 what is the sha256sum of your ISO? Mine is: 3dae1a531b90fa72e59b4a86b20216188d398c8c070da4a5c5a44fe08b1b6e55
[09:04:28] <janrinok> Bytram, I have a Windows & Professional x64 key. I'll PM it to you
[09:04:36] <janrinok> Done
[09:04:58] <janrinok> that's Win 7 ....
[09:07:55] <Bytram> hi.
[09:08:12] <janrinok> why aren't you asleep?
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[09:08:47] <janrinok> .... oh, he might be awake but is seems that his phone isn't
[09:54:20] <Bytram> for some reason that escapes me, could not dd the iso to a dvd on dewey (Ubuntu). So, am copying it to a USB stick which I can then bring it over to Hewey (Win 7) and burn it to a DVD over there.
[10:26:15] <chromas> If you grab a tool called Rufus, you can make a bootable usb drive with your Windows ISO
[10:50:26] <Bytram> Heh.
[10:52:22] <Bytram> Don't know why, but I could not get Ubuntu (on Dewey) to copy the ISO to the DVD. :P So, copied the ISO to a USB stick, brought the stick over to Huey (WIn 7 Pro x64 install), and burned the .ISO to a DVD there.
[10:52:53] <chromas> You need a tool to do it. Can't burn ISOs to DVD with dd
[10:53:01] <Bytram> k
[10:53:11] <Bytram> Here's the kicker!
[10:55:18] <Bytram> I just put the Win 7 Pro X64 DVD that I just burned into the DVD drive on Louie (Dell Latitude E6410 Intel i5 for those watching from home) and... I got what appears to be the exact same boot loop as I go with Win 7 Pro x64 copied from Hewey to an SSD!
[10:55:53] <Bytram> curiouser and curiouser!!!
[10:59:22] <chromas> And it boots in Hewey or Louie?
[11:00:21] <Bytram> That was my very first attempt at trying to boot using the DVD
[11:00:50] <chromas> You don't happen to have a desktop sitting around do you?
[11:01:32] <chromas> I guess if you did, you'd've probably used it to dd the SSDs
[11:01:36] <Bytram> for all intents and purposes, no.
[11:01:41] <Bytram> yep
[11:02:47] <Bytram> btw, do YOU have a Win 7 Pro x64 install CD that you could do a md256sum of? I would like to verify my D/L was good.
[11:03:25] <chromas> I do but I think it's not 'stock'
[11:03:28] <chromas> I'll check it though
[11:04:18] <chromas> I've got a couple
[11:05:17] <Bytram> for future reference and while I have it up on my screen, the BIOS on Louie reports it has: "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 540 @ 2.53 GHz"
[11:05:28] <chromas> If you have virtualbox, you could try booting up your dvd in it
[11:06:13] <Bytram> had it way back when, but not now in a working state
[11:07:35] <Bytram> Also, fwiw Louie is set up in the BIOS to run with 2 cores (and NO multi-threading).
[11:10:56] <chromas> Maybe that's the problem :)
[11:11:22] <Bytram> Here is the SHA256SUM from the ISO that I downloaded: 3dae1a531b90fa72e59b4a86b20216188d398c8c070da4a5c5a44fe08b1b6e55
[11:11:37] <chromas> And you're absolutely sure Louie's BIOS compatibility mode matches that of Hewy Dewie and the News?
[11:11:43] <chromas> Yeah I've got a mismatch on both mine
[11:11:46] <Bytram> Hewey is a Core 2 Duo
[11:12:41] <Bytram> Dewey, Louie, (and yes there is another, intended for parts, Phooey) all have Intel i5 as above.
[11:14:01] <Bytram> Huey is a Dell Latitude E6400; the other ones are all Dell Latitude E6410s
[11:14:57] <chromas> From what I've found on the net, the E6400 has BIOS while the E6410 has EFI.
[11:15:25] <chromas> I only harp on that because EFI firmware most likely won't boot MBR disks without enabling the compatibility mode
[11:17:39] <Bytram> yes, E6410 *has* UEFI, but there is a choice in the BIOS: "Boot List option: (*) Legacy ( ) UEFI" and I have Legacy selected.
[11:17:58] <chromas> Dangit, why can't it be that simple?
[11:18:17] <chromas> What if you toggle, save, then toggle and save?
[11:18:21] <Bytram> If it were simple, I wouldn't need you guys!
[11:18:25] <Bytram> ~blame
[11:18:26] * exec points at Bytram
[11:18:35] <chromas> It's dumb, but I've had that fix options before when they're not quite as set as the interface things they are
[11:19:05] <Bytram> yes, I have to.
[11:19:09] <Bytram> yes, I have too.
[11:19:47] <chromas> We need a page on the wiki so we can all track which things you've tried :)
[11:20:56] <Bytram> Okay, I am on the East Coast, woke up at 0330 to answer "nature's call" and have been up since then working on this. Think I'm gonna step back, try and go back to sleep, and mull things over for a while.
[11:21:24] <Bytram> pls do check SHA256SUMs for me?
[11:22:06] <chromas> I checked. No match
[11:22:24] <Bytram> ahh. Hrm... okay.
[11:22:27] <chromas> I've got
[11:22:27] <chromas> 36f4fa2416d0982697ab106e3a72d2e120dbcdb6cc54fd3906d06120d0653808
[11:22:27] <chromas> and
[11:22:27] <chromas> da022e589dd1c091b2c4a3b14de6ab1110de239684ce76eb74edfb38e22037e6
[11:22:56] <chromas> One's got a builtin service pack and the other has a loader or something
[11:23:12] <Bytram> can you D/L a win 7 Pro x64 image from the official Microsoft site and get a sum of that?
[11:23:20] <Bytram> k
[11:23:38] <Bytram> my ISO is supposed to be SP1
[11:23:49] <chromas> Mine too. hm
[11:23:54] <Bytram> k
[11:24:11] <chromas> Mine's most likely got some less-than-legit mods though
[11:24:28] <chromas> I don't seem to have a 7 key
[11:24:58] <Bytram> I must admit, as frustrating as this has been, I sure have been learning a lot along the way! Thanks for the help!
[11:25:00] <Bytram> k
[11:25:48] <Bytram> I put out a request to cmn32480 to get a SHA256SUM off his Win 7 images; maybe he will have better luck.
[11:26:20] <Bytram> and with that, I needed to wind things down and try to get some shuteye.
[11:26:29] <Bytram> Thanks for the help!
[11:27:19] <chromas> You're welcome. Hopefully he and janrinok can get you going when they get back
[11:27:34] <chromas> Be sure to try booting your shiny new DVD in one of the other boxes
[11:46:59] <chromas> Ooh. This ISO link I found on a totally legit site actually points to a hidden download on MS' site. Neat. But it's French
[11:47:22] <chromas> or maybe not. Not sure what the FRE stands for
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[12:33:22] <janrinok> are you hashing the iso, or the files on the disk, or a disk clone - they will all have different hashes
[12:34:55] <janrinok> going for my siesta - back on in an hour or so...
[12:54:28] <Bytram> I was hashing the .iso file: en_windows_7_professional_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_676939.iso
[13:02:04] <Bytram> Downloaded from: https://windowsiso.net
[13:02:32] <Bytram> (I think!)
[13:18:34] <cmn32480> bytram - I have original physical disks. If the units have RFB keys, I don't know if they are Dell ISO compatible or if the are MS ISO compatible.
[13:23:08] <Bytram> cmn32480: Awesome! hold on
[13:33:24] <Bytram> cmn32480: Just sent you a txt with pics of these from Louie: (1) Microsoft Certificate of Authenticity -- Refurb (2) Service Tag (I think it was the *original* one for the E6410 (3) Original Microsoft Certificate of Authenticity
[13:40:00] <Bytram> As for the keys being "Dell ISO compatible" or "MS ISO compatible"... I have no idea. I guess my next step is to figure out how to go from the "Refurb Key" I have to an actual Product Key i can use for an install.
[13:50:57] <janrinok> OK, I've just woken up - having originally been up since 0500 ish local time. What is the plan?
[14:08:52] <Bytram> janrinok: Hi!
[14:08:59] <Bytram> Recap...
[14:10:10] <Bytram> I burned the Win ISO I downloaded to a DVD, but when I tried to boot it on Louie, it appeared to behave exactly the same as my cloned win SSD
[14:10:13] <Bytram> SO,
[14:10:53] <Bytram> I may have a 'bad' iso (need a checksum from a known-good ISO) I can compare against.
[14:11:10] <Bytram> Or, I still have some BIOS setting I need to change.
[14:12:41] <Bytram> Since MS no longer offers their own ISO D/L service (at least as far as I can tell), I had to D/L from elsewhere" https://onesoftwares.net
[14:12:45] <Bytram> specifically:
[14:14:47] <Bytram> hrrm, can't find it on Huey...
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[14:16:22] <Bytram_dewey> https://answers.microsoft.com
[14:16:57] <Bytram_dewey> just found that link on Dewey.
[14:17:07] <janrinok> well, having read the splurge on that second link I would have reservations about the software. If you read it closely, it has several spelling mistakes and grammatical errors. It might not be as reputable as you first imagine.
[14:18:11] <Bytram_dewey> from FF list of downloads: https://ia801001.us.archive.org
[14:18:11] <janrinok> One of the uses says that it is NOT an iso but a rar file.... But as you have a copy in your hand you should be able to confirm or disprove that statement
[14:18:31] <Bytram> Yep... brb
[14:19:40] <Bytram_dewey> Here ya go:
[14:19:46] <Bytram_dewey> martyb@E6410-001:~/Downloads$ file en_windows_7_professional_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_676939.iso en_windows_7_professional_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_676939.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'GSP1RMCPRXFRER_EN_DVD' (bootable) martyb@E6410-001:~/Downloads$
[14:20:26] <janrinok> that is not the url that we looked at yesterday before you went off to download.
[14:20:37] <Bytram_dewey> I have no idea why copy/paste on Ubuntu omits CRs
[14:20:46] <janrinok> in fact, that is not url - Not Found
[14:21:27] <janrinok> Ubuntu doesn't - the particular desktop that you are using does...
[14:21:38] <Bytram_dewey> Maybe have to access it from the page that link is from (Sets cookies or something?)
[14:21:44] <janrinok> have you switched to MATE yet?
[14:21:59] <Bytram_dewey> Not yet.
[14:22:03] <janrinok> ah!
[14:22:10] <Bytram_dewey> Choo!
[14:22:19] <janrinok> np - lets look at one problem at a time.
[14:22:23] <Bytram_dewey> k
[14:23:29] <janrinok> so the dvd and the ssd both exhibit the same error on boot up - ergo, my guess is it is not the media but the configuration that is wrong
[14:24:33] <Bytram> That is my *guess*, too... but I would feel more comfortable if I knew I had a valid ISO
[14:26:18] <Bytram> Did you see where I corrected which URL I downloaded from? I just retired it and it worked for me: https://answers.microsoft.com
[14:26:22] <janrinok> so I would check and check again the BIOS settings on the machine that you want to use the win SSD on, and even try making some selections that are not what you want/expect e.g. try booting with UEFI and without in case we are simply making an incorrect assumption
[14:26:37] <Bytram> k
[14:27:50] <janrinok> which of those download links did you use because Ultimate is Pro plus something if I remember correctly - so you will never get a hash that matches a 'normal' Pro version
[14:28:08] <Bytram> I am tempted to try booting the ISO on my orig lappy (Hewey) but I am not absolutely certain that it is an exact duplicate of what MS provides... small chance it could have a virus or something in it.
[14:28:54] <Bytram> the last link I posted. I copied that hear from Dewey's FF downloads history
[14:29:07] <Bytram> s/hear/here/
[14:29:09] <exec> <Bytram> the last link I posted. I copied that here from Dewey's FF downloads history
[14:30:09] <janrinok> I'm not saying it is not a good link, merely that checking hashes if we don't know that both sources are identical will not help. If one file has a different date in that edition then the hash will fail won't it?
[14:31:12] <Bytram_dewey> es, but there are lots of ways thy could fail... but if they *match* I am golden.
[14:31:32] <janrinok> so, lets step back a moment. Does the lappy that you want to use for W7 boot with anything? Ubuntu, thumbdrive, ssd...?
[14:31:49] <janrinok> I love your optimism
[14:32:13] <Bytram> yes, yes, and yes. Ubuntu, on DVD, on SSD, and on thumbdrive
[14:32:35] <janrinok> I will have to create an iso from my DVD and then hash it and there is no guarantee that it will match any of the hashes that your currently have.
[14:32:55] <Bytram> okay...
[14:33:34] <janrinok> I DO have a dvd and a known correct key. I could transfer that to you and you know that should work. But I feel that it is going to be simpler than that (now it is my optimism)
[14:33:41] <Bytram> is it (1) en (ENglish) (2) Windows 7 (3) Professional (4) x64 ???
[14:33:48] <janrinok> yes
[14:33:52] <Bytram> \Yay!
[14:34:10] <janrinok> certified for Refubished Computers and I passed the key and COA this am
[14:34:44] <janrinok> It was mine and I have used it several times on different machines. But it has not been used for 3 years or more
[14:35:01] <janrinok> I have no further use for it.
[14:35:26] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:35:57] <Bytram> If nothing else, once you have a hash, a search on that might well reveal a different site I could D/L from. =)
[14:36:02] <janrinok> however, can you boot anything at all on the computer that you want to use for W7
[14:36:23] <Bytram> Yes, I just told you Ubuntu on al 3 media
[14:36:45] <janrinok> ah, the page had scrolled more than I noticed
[14:36:54] <Bytram> NP!!!
[14:37:54] <Bytram> ho ho ho!
[14:37:57] <janrinok> so I would suggest changing the settings from BIOS to UEFI or whatever is the opposite of what you have now, and trying Ubuntu again
[14:38:43] <Bytram> I just did a search on a md5sum (yeah, I know) and searched on that. Found this webpage:
[14:38:44] <Bytram> https://digitalrivermirror.com
[14:39:06] <janrinok> if it boots with either setting, then try the W7 media with each, if it makes no difference then we can ignore that setting, at least temporarily.
[14:39:06] <Bytram> That domain was where MS previously hosted their ISOs
[14:39:31] * Bytram goes to double-check with SHA1 hash
[14:39:57] <janrinok> OK, I am downloading from that site and will see if it boots on any of my computers....
[14:40:13] <Bytram> My MD5: ed15956fe33c13642a6d2cb2c7aa9749
[14:40:28] <Bytram> My SHA1: 0bcfc54019ea175b1ee51f6d2b207a3d14dd2b58
[14:41:11] <janrinok> I'm waiting for my email from that site to confirm my download....
[14:41:47] <janrinok> SN email is not the quickest around...
[14:41:56] <Bytram> okay... (I don't recall giving them my email addy)
[14:42:10] <janrinok> what professional email address did you use yesterday?
[14:42:24] <Bytram> But, then again, the past few days I've been as tarp as a shack!
[14:42:44] * Bytram goes to check his emails
[14:44:30] <janrinok> I suspect that it isn't going to download for me from that site - haven't a clue why not, but I'll wait a little longer for my email
[14:45:14] <Bytram> What are you waiting for? I clicked on the link and FF immediately asked me what I wanted to do with it.
[14:45:37] <janrinok> It doesn't do that for me.....
[14:45:43] <janrinok> but I am using PM
[14:45:56] <Bytram> yeah...
[14:46:02] <Bytram> lemme try again
[14:47:04] <janrinok> no, I get redirected to an Office 365 offer, on both browsers
[14:47:34] <Bytram> just a bit
[14:48:48] <Bytram> (1) I needed to accept their cookie
[14:49:09] <Bytram> (2) On FF on Dewey,, I have relatively minimal blocking
[14:49:12] <janrinok> I've found another way to that site - what is the last number of the DVD that you actually downloaded?
[14:49:33] <janrinok> I just want to make sure that we download identical editions
[14:49:44] <Bytram> (3) Had to wait for a countdown timer to complete (about 3-5) seconds
[14:49:50] <Bytram> and hten it asked me what to do with it.
[14:49:55] <Bytram> coming
[14:50:27] <Bytram> Here is the file name after he D/L: en_windows_7_professional_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_676939.iso
[14:50:35] <janrinok> found it - downloading now. MS is not always friendly to sites outside the US
[14:50:51] <Bytram> Orly? o_O
[14:51:23] <janrinok> they want to change languages - I don't! - and they want to try to get us to purchase other crap at the same time
[14:51:40] <Bytram> huh... /me did not see that.
[14:52:11] <janrinok> and it doesn't download, will change broswers again!
[14:52:16] <Bytram> k
[14:53:19] <janrinok> it is making me torrent rather than download!
[14:54:36] <janrinok> this could take a while. I take it your download matches the ISO hashes on that page?
[14:54:47] <Bytram> Given that I am getting the exact same MD5 and SHA-1 sums on my downloaded ISO as listed on the official MS Site: https://digitalrivermirror.com I am going to assume that my D/L *IS* valid.
[14:55:02] <janrinok> so would I
[14:55:13] <Bytram> you was askin' while I was typin' =)
[14:55:37] <Bytram> so... here's an Idea...
[14:55:50] <janrinok> my download is estimating 1 hour'ish - when I get it I will burn to DVD and see if it boots in my computers
[14:55:55] <Bytram> HIbernate Hewey (orig PC) and try to boot the ISO DVD
[14:56:00] <janrinok> go with ideas - I like ideas
[14:56:30] <Bytram> whacha thnk?
[14:56:51] <janrinok> so can you hibernate and boot from another media? I don't know...
[14:57:03] <Bytram> Oh, yeah. No problem at all.
[14:57:15] <janrinok> as I say - I like ideas
[14:58:03] <Bytram> Hibernaton (which I do *all* the time) writes sysem state to the SSD. Then when I boot from other media, it does... whatever. Pull the media, powerdown, powerup, and lappy comes back from hibernation =)
[14:58:24] <janrinok> I have desktops - the only hibernating I do is when I crawl under my duvet
[14:58:34] <Bytram> LOL!
[14:58:44] <Bytram> ::GUFFAWS::
[14:58:58] <Bytram> Okay, here goes nothing.
[14:59:17] <janrinok> 3 here in my daily workplace/bedroom, 1 in S's room, and 4 in my 'office' downstairs
[15:00:25] * janrinok spends the day here rather than in the office because it is next to S
[15:00:48] <Bytram_dewey> So, Hewey is quiescing for a bit, and then will hibernate and then power down.
[15:01:04] <Bytram_dewey> Oh yeah! Say hi for me!
[15:01:14] <Bytram_dewey> umnless she is napping
[15:01:21] <Bytram_dewey> 15sec to go
[15:01:32] <janrinok> I can't remember - have we tried the original W7 SSD from huey in any other machine?
[15:01:57] <janrinok> you get another {{{}}} from s!
[15:02:33] <janrinok> ... or are you protecting it from any mishap?
[15:02:48] <Bytram_dewey> No. Just in caase booting up elsewhere gets it confused and writes garbage to my only known good Win system disk. Hence making the copy in the first place!
[15:03:33] <Bytram_dewey> Grr! FF tosses up helpful messageas that get in the way.
[15:03:35] <janrinok> can't fault your logic, although if you _did_ it would confirm that the settings are good or bad
[15:03:43] <Bytram_dewey> Huey is powered off...
[15:03:53] <Bytram_dewey> Oh, and DVD drive is closed.
[15:04:03] <janrinok> always handy...
[15:04:06] * Bytram_dewey seeks his precious bent paperclip
[15:04:33] <Bytram_dewey> opened
[15:05:07] <Bytram_dewey> disk is in and drive door closed
[15:05:09] <Bytram_dewey> power
[15:05:25] <Bytram_dewey> Fngers: crossed
[15:06:10] <Bytram_dewey> Press any kkey to book from dvd or cd... and I did not do that in time as I was typing this in, so it went straight to my SSD
[15:06:59] <janrinok> so around be go again - np, only 46 bloody minutes left on my download!
[15:07:07] <Bytram_dewey> soylent
[15:07:29] <janrinok> er, I don't think you meant to type that
[15:07:35] <Bytram_dewey> and it fially came back to the desktop
[15:07:41] <Bytram_dewey> what?
[15:07:51] <Bytram_dewey> anothwer try at hibernatpm
[15:08:30] <janrinok> you typed a word a few lines back that I don't think you meant to - or I misunderstood what it was intended to mean
[15:08:36] <Bytram_dewey> down again
[15:10:17] <Bytram_dewey> The actual message was: "Press any key to boot from CD or DVD."
[15:10:54] <Bytram_dewey> "Windows is loading files..."
[15:11:20] <janrinok> so your disk is good - it IS a configuration problem on the other computers
[15:11:23] <Bytram_dewey> (slowly... is now about 1/3 done)
[15:12:56] <Bytram_dewey> Can't yet tell. Remember I would gt to the Windows bootup splash screen with the words "MS Windows" or whatever, see 4 colored dots swirl around and become the windows logo, and after about 20 seconds would halt and restart the PC
[15:13:24] <janrinok> ah, ok..
[15:13:57] <janrinok> well if it can't find a SSD to install to it will probably throw a fit anyway
[15:14:03] <Bytram_dewey> AHa, now I remember the text "Starting Windows" and THEN would come the swirling dots expanding to the windows logo which would then 'pulse' for a bit
[15:14:36] <Bytram_dewey> Hmm, is it *strictly* install media, or can I not run WIndows from thehr
[15:14:39] <Bytram_dewey> Starting WIndows
[15:14:41] <Bytram_dewey> dots
[15:14:43] <Bytram_dewey> logo
[15:14:47] <Bytram_dewey> blamk
[15:14:53] <Bytram_dewey> desktop!
[15:14:56] <janrinok> I have a plan, but let us wait and see if finishes booting
[15:15:16] <janrinok> so you are happy that you have got a good disk?
[15:15:22] <Bytram_dewey> And now it is presenting a window to "Install WIndows"
[15:15:25] <Bytram_dewey> yes
[15:15:37] <janrinok> right - take it out before we break something
[15:15:50] <janrinok> or shut it down again...
[15:16:02] * Bytram_dewey decides he just better take a pic, no idea why, but call it spidey sense. brbr
[15:16:46] <Bytram_dewey> done
[15:17:00] * Bytram_dewey presses power switch
[15:17:25] <Bytram_dewey> And remembers to eject the DVD!
[15:17:26] <janrinok> ok, let me got through a plan and see if you agree - it will cover several lines so don't jump in with questions too soon , OK
[15:18:06] <Bytram_dewey> I fully understand. I need to take care of something quickly... back in abut 5 minutes
[15:18:25] <Bytram_dewey> when yo are done, type "Finis" or somesuch
[15:18:29] <Bytram_dewey> afk
[15:18:46] <janrinok> You will eventually want to rewrite your clone SSD so for the time being it is usable for testing purposes.
[15:19:17] <janrinok> I suggest that we put the 'clone' SSD into huey but treat it as an empty SSD.
[15:19:22] <cmn32480> At this point, I'm using the same OEM key that is on either the 6400 or the 6410 to register the software
[15:20:38] <janrinok> Boot up from your now proven W7 DVD and install windows onto the 'clone' SSD. that will 1. provide you with another win SSD although not a copy of the existing SSD, and 2. show you exactly what you have on your DVD.
[15:21:21] <janrinok> when the installation is complete, make sure that huey can boot successfully from the SSD, and then remove it
[15:22:18] <janrinok> install the new W7 SSD in one of your other lappies. It probably won't boot but we KNOW that it SHOULD, because we have proven it on huey.
[15:22:45] <janrinok> Play with settings on the new lappy/W7 combinations until we get it to play ball!
[15:23:25] <janrinok> brb nurse
[15:29:54] <janrinok> Once we have the new lappy/W7 combination settings sorted out we remove the SSD and reclone it from the original W7 SSD
[15:30:19] <janrinok> Finis
[15:31:32] <janrinok> Questions / views / laughter?
[15:32:15] <cmn32480> nope
[15:32:19] * cmn32480 can barely read
[15:37:16] <Bytram_dewey> so sorry it took longer than I thought.
[15:37:19] <Bytram_dewey> reading
[15:38:26] <Bytram_dewey> Sounds like an excellent plan! I *like* it.
[15:39:28] <janrinok> ok, well other than cheering from the sidelines, there is not a lot I can do to help.
[15:39:52] * Bytram_dewey tries to remember exactly where each SSD is... Huey has th e orig Win 7 SSD. Louie has the bootable Ubuntu install, so tha t means the SSD in Dewey (here) should be the oone to write to?
[15:40:03] <janrinok> cmn32480, can you hang fire on registering the 6410 until we know that we have a working combination?
[15:40:07] * Bytram_dewey tries to take a look
[15:41:09] <Bytram_dewey> FYI I wil lbe needing to step away from this in about 15 minute or so. Then will be out for about 3 hours or so.
[15:41:11] <Bytram_dewey> errands--
[15:41:42] <janrinok> np - there is no rush and it is probably best to take things slowly so that you can make copious notes
[15:41:51] <Bytram_dewey> Moi?
[15:41:53] <Bytram_dewey> ;)
[15:41:58] <janrinok> Toi!
[15:42:07] <cmn32480> certainly.
[15:42:43] <janrinok> muchos grassy arse
[15:43:10] <Bytram_dewey> oh, wait... maybe *this* lappy is the one with the bootable SSD? yeah, it is.
[15:43:54] * janrinok wonders why he gave them names and then refers to 'this' lappy - clear as mud to the rest of us....
[15:43:57] <Bytram_dewey> Can you thnk of an Ubuntu cmd I can issue to find out where I am booted up from, just to confirm?
[15:44:07] <Bytram_dewey> look at my nick
[15:44:12] <Bytram_dewey> =)
[15:44:34] <janrinok> what computer did we just test the DVD on?
[15:45:00] <Bytram_dewey> Hewey. Orig PC with the (still-working) Win 7 installon SSD
[15:45:25] <Bytram_dewey> yep, now I remember... louie is where I wil lneed to try an dinstall Windows from the DVD
[15:45:26] <janrinok> so that is the one that you should install W7 onto your 'clone' SSD
[15:46:03] <janrinok> the only system we have proven that can read the DVD is huey!
[15:46:24] <Bytram_dewey> Oh... hrrm. oh yeah.
[15:46:34] <Bytram_dewey> hold on
[15:46:40] <janrinok> work with what we know will work
[15:46:44] <Bytram_dewey> nod ndo
[15:46:56] <Bytram_dewey> just replanning things im my mind
[15:48:44] <Bytram_dewey> Louie is already powered down. Pull power cord and battery. yank installed SSD. Insert new SSD (taken from Louie -- after pulling L's power cord and battery). Insert SSD into hewey. Insert DVD into drive. reboot Huey. Install Win 7 to Huey's SSD. Does that sound correct?
[15:49:31] <janrinok> yes - just make sure that you protect the good win 7 ssd somewhere safe
[15:49:47] <Bytram_dewey> gnawed gnawed!
[15:49:49] <Bytram_dewey> ;)
[15:50:10] <janrinok> I'd hate you to get them mixed up and overwrite the wrong one!
[15:50:15] * Bytram_dewey picked p a fresh pack of "sticky notes" expressly for this purpose!
[15:52:07] <janrinok> put it well out of arms reach so that you don't pick it up by mistake
[15:52:24] <Bytram_dewey> Looks like I am running out of time at this point. I have a plan (THANK YOU!) and would prefer to not interrupt the processing. And, yes copious notes. Aslo, I stil have Dewey (this Lappy) that I can nuse to go online and seek answers to any questions that might arise along the way!
[15:52:31] <Bytram_dewey> .
[15:52:52] <janrinok> I'll be monitoring this chan - laters
[15:53:02] * Bytram_dewey has too much experience with accidentally writing to the wrong disk -- is darn near paranoid about making a mistake!
[15:53:13] <janrinok> good to hear
[15:53:52] <Bytram_dewey> Obliged. So nothing will be happening until at least 3 hours from now, prolly closer to 4 hours. Will see you then!
[15:54:58] <Bytram_dewey> Befoe I actually start the process, I will check back here in case there are any further suggestions / cautions!
[15:56:33] <Bytram_dewey> If you can thnk of anything else I should D/L,pls let me know as I wil lhave access to Wi-Fi for about an hour =)
[15:57:22] <Bytram_dewey> Will need a direct URL that I can enter into my Cell phone brower (Chrome) and then tell it to download.
[15:57:27] <Bytram_dewey> afk
[16:15:48] <cmn32480> I cna give you an original ISO if that helps.
[16:50:55] <Bytram_dewey> cmn32480: Very much appreciate he offer, but at this moment it does not seem to be immediately necessary. Now, should I run into driver problems, then that would be handy!
[16:51:19] <cmn32480> Roger that
[16:52:23] <Bytram_dewey> Am heading out the door; will monitor #qa channel's log for any D/L suggestions. Unfortunately, this place with the free WiFi... I can go on the web okay, but then I cannot so chat here. :/
[16:52:41] <Bytram_dewey> I'll check every 15 minutes or so for D/L suggestions.
[16:52:49] <Bytram_dewey> GTG!
[16:52:57] <Bytram_dewey> thanks so much everybody!
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[22:52:29] * Bytram_dewey just got back home -- that sure took longer than I expected!
[23:11:37] <Bytram> Does not look like this worked out so well, at least not yet. Got a 4-way HDMI switch. Plug each lappy into an input port, plug output into TV. Switching from, say, input #1 to, say input #2... and #1 seems to think it lost an external display