#governance | Logs for 2024-01-12
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[00:04:49] <chromas> you could also do a +r on the channel for a bit
[00:05:14] <chromas> we're not doing a useless meating so it doesn't matter if people can't get in for a couple hours
[00:05:51] <chromas> or however long it takes him to pop back in
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[00:12:01] <Bytram> chromas: I've lost much of my recollection as to what I can to (and which wasn't all that much to begin with :\) How could we set him up with, say, a 1 hour "timeout"?
[00:12:51] <chromas> you can set a ban with /mode +b
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[00:14:25] <Bytram> umm, how long a ban? What would be the full incantation?
[00:15:15] <Bytram> chromas: ^^^
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[00:25:07] <chromas> /mode +b Core!*@* is good enough
[00:25:34] <chromas> it's not exact, but nobody else is coming in here, especially with that nick and he can always remove it himself if we forget
[00:26:53] <Bytram> BTW there are Core6508 and Core6508_ variants
[00:27:13] -!- mode/#governance [+b Core!*@*] by Bytram
[00:27:20] <chromas> oh yeah I should say
[00:27:24] <chromas> /mode +b Core*!*@* is good enough
[00:27:39] <chromas> otherwise neither is covered since there are numbers
[00:28:12] <Bytram> Ahh! Good catch!
[00:28:44] <Bytram> TYVM!
[00:32:07] <chromas> since nothing's happened here in the last few months, another option is to just ignore people coming and going :D
[00:35:51] <Bytram> It's easier to ignore them if they remain silent ^)
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[18:10:16] <not_kolie2> Staff doesn't need any meeting to do staff stuff. Governance committee was over one specific topic and mission. That's a weird comment.
[18:11:15] <not_kolie2> And I didn't realize posting the bylaws to the community as a draft was considered a vote of their approval of them being accepted and acted on.
[18:11:34] <not_kolie2> If thats the consensus that democracy is served then sure let's get it installed. News to me.
[18:12:30] <not_kolie2> We still need the voting mechanism in place to elect people per the mechanisms specified in the new bylaws.
[18:13:23] <not_kolie2> So let's hold that vote, and register the corp and the governance committee has served its end.
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[20:51:20] <janrinok> well you can keep going round in circles but I don't think the size of the meetings is going to get any bigger. Do you?
[21:02:46] <janrinok> k0lie If you don't think that you have the community's permission then why don't you ask the community for it? It doesn't require a committee meeting. Write a Meta and publish it.
[21:03:46] <janrinok> If something for the voting requires organising then ask the people who will be responsible to prepare it by email. It doesn't require a committee meeting.
[21:04:59] <janrinok> If you need community members to step forward them ask them to do so in another Meta. It doesn't require a committee meeting to ask the community a question.
[21:07:24] <janrinok> We don't need weekly meetings - we need to communicate like we have always done previously. If you like, consider the staff as the old 'Governance Committee'. We didn't need weekly meetings. We volunteered to do the job and got on with it. Exactly the same way as you are now going to ask the community to do. All that is being achieved is those who will be doing the work will change.
[21:09:25] <janrinok> What we have now is another layer of business style bureaucracy in the form of weekly meetings. Nobody volunteered to give their time to weekly meetings - they volunteered to run the site.
[21:10:28] <janrinok> I am still editing - the job that I volunteered to do.
[21:13:01] <janrinok> Do you know why nobody is turning up? Have you asked them? Are they still around?
[21:13:33] <janrinok> kolie, k0lie, not_kolie2, ^^^
[21:14:15] <janrinok> ps pick a username and stick with it please - it will make life much simpler.