#editorial | Logs for 2024-03-17

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[17:06:48] -!- mrpg [mrpg!~mrpg@Soylent/Staff/Editor/mrpg] has joined #editorial
[17:06:48] -!- mode/#editorial [+v mrpg] by Hephaestus
[17:08:16] <mrpg> I reckon there's only a story in the Q, i'll post some, but first, sugar flakes and milk!
[17:09:09] <mrpg> :O
[17:09:15] <mrpg> :-)
[18:34:40] <mrpg> I'll do
[18:34:40] <mrpg> Brighter, cheaper blue light could revolutionize screen technology
[18:35:40] <janrinok> mpg! Nice to see you around. I hope that you are well!
[18:36:09] <mrpg> Soso, thanks, and ypu
[18:36:58] <janrinok> also soso! But I'm still here so there is always that :)
[18:37:32] <mrpg> Good. I work at a factory that makes boxes.
[18:37:57] <mrpg> It is funnier in French: je travaille dans une boite qui fait des boites en bois.
[18:39:33] <janrinok> having a job is good - big boxes or small boxes. We will always need boxes...
[18:40:05] <mrpg> wooden boxes for wine.
[18:40:13] <mrpg> For export.
[18:45:38] <janrinok> I might be drinking something from one of your boxes as we speak! But I suspect the odds are not favourable... The wine isn't bad though.
[18:47:03] <mrpg> I don-t know where the wine is sent but some have french names
[18:48:32] <janrinok> that is an old trick which infuriates the French - I just smile.
[18:49:05] <mrpg> Sub ready
[18:50:16] <janrinok> I went to a local cave (wine merchant) and ordered some Italian wine. He was not impressed. I asked what was the nearest that French wine that he had for Lambrusco or Valpolilcella. He was stumped.
[18:50:30] <janrinok> Post your sub, I've got another to go in a few minutes time.
[18:58:53] <mrpg> The FCC Just Quadrupled the Download Speed Required to Market Internet as ‘Broadband’ --- ready
[19:01:19] <chromas> Blue LEDs are already eye rapists—we don't want 'em any brighter
[19:09:35] <mrpg> i have a yellow filter always on on my desktop.
[19:12:22] <mrpg> Now I-ll do Breakthrough Therapy Obliterates Deadly Brain Tumor in Days
[19:12:48] <janrinok> I've taken to sticking paper patches over the worst offenders, perhaps with just a pinhole in them.
[19:17:17] <mrpg> Question: what is the command for the DOI link?
[19:17:47] <chromas> =doi
[19:17:50] <chromas> hm
[19:17:52] <chromas> =cite
[19:17:56] <chromas> oh no bot
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[19:18:05] <chromas> =cite
[19:18:05] <systemd> Generate a block of HTML for citing an article. Takes DOIs and URLs. Template:
[19:18:05] <systemd> ${authors}${title}${access}, <cite>${journal}</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/${doi}">${doi}</a>)
[19:18:08] <chromas> =doi
[19:18:08] <systemd> Generate a block of HTML for citing an article. Takes DOIs and URLs. Template:
[19:18:08] <systemd> ${authors}${title}${access}, <cite>${journal}</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/${doi}">${doi}</a>)
[19:18:18] <chromas> ah both the same command I guess
[19:18:29] <janrinok> I steal it from the source. In my browser I use Ctrl-U to get the HTML, and then simply copy/pasta that into the story.
[19:18:52] <chromas> you don't have a python script to do it?
[19:19:45] <mrpg> =doi https://www.sciencealert.com
[19:19:46] <systemd> Journal Reference: Breakthrough Therapy Obliterates Deadly Brain Tumor in Days, <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/https://www.sciencealert.com/breakthrough-therapy-obliterates-deadly-brain-tumor-in-days">https://www.sciencealert.com/breakthrough-therapy-obliterates-deadly-brain-tumor-in-days</a>)
[19:20:14] <janrinok> Yeah I could run Arthur but to be honest it is just as quick to rip it out of the source.
[19:21:10] <janrinok> Arthur is good for getting 400 potential stories, but not optimum for picking out one bit of code from somewhere. It can do it but I am quicker doing it manually.
[19:22:20] <mrpg> =doi https://www.nejm.org
[19:22:20] <systemd> Journal Reference: Just a moment..., <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2314390">https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2314390</a>)
[19:22:56] <chromas> dang ol' redirects
[19:23:36] <mrpg> shoot
[19:24:04] <chromas> Intraventricular CARv3-TEAM-E T Cells in Recurrent Glioblastoma
[19:25:43] <janrinok> I was just going to say that....
[19:28:28] <mrpg> =doi https://doi.org
[19:28:28] <systemd> Journal Reference: Just a moment..., <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1021/acscentsci.3c01593">10.1021/acscentsci.3c01593</a>)
[19:31:43] <janrinok> mrpg, as long as you have the DOI people can sort it out. The 'Just a moment' is irritating but there is not an easy way around that.
[19:32:32] <mrpg> Yes, i have to do it manually. Ok next time I'll leave the just a moment.
[19:35:52] <janrinok> You can also work backwards. once you have the DOI, -=cite can sometimes find the story that covers it. A bit long winded but it does sometimes work :)
[19:43:16] <mrpg> ready
[19:43:16] <mrpg> Breakthrough Therapy Obliterates Deadly Brain Tumor in Days
[19:43:48] <mrpg> =cite 10.1056/NEJMoa2314390
[19:43:49] <systemd> Journal Reference: Bryan D. Choi, Elizabeth R. Gerstner, Matthew J. Frigault, et al. Intraventricular CARv3-TEAM-E T Cells in Recurrent Glioblastoma, <cite>New England Journal of Medicine</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1056/NEJMoa2314390">10.1056/NEJMoa2314390</a>)
[19:44:05] <mrpg> ooooh better
[19:44:44] <chromas> trying to figure out how their redirect works. I get "Just a moment" in curl but not waterfox even with js turned off
[19:46:19] <mrpg> Try the old method, email them and ask, who knows.
[19:46:40] <chromas> it's the current year. talking to people is scary
[19:48:06] <mrpg> Reckon. But email is a lesser evil than the dreaded phone call.
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[19:50:19] <chromas> ah
[19:50:30] <chromas> tried in a new browser and it's cloudflare
[19:51:44] <mrpg> cloudflare is blocking palemoon o rsomething. i read it somewhere.
[19:51:53] <mrpg> or librefox? hmm
[19:52:26] <chromas> it eventually redirected. but now we know the "Just a moments" are cause by cloudflare nonsense
[19:53:01] <mrpg> good
[20:05:50] <mrpg> well, my work is done, see you later good luck this si the nostromo signing off.
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[20:10:46] <chromas> one man enters...after one man leaves. no sus
[20:11:01] <chromas> mrfishy